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July 16, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get my laptop.
	I'm going to go ahead and get my laptop.
	I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.
	People need to start taking to the streets.
	This is a dictator.
	You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives.
	Enemies of the state.
	Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
	Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless!
	When they go low, we kick them.
	How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?
	The biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right.
	I thought you should have punched him in the face.
	Even if you lost, he insulted your wife.
	He came down the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murderers.
	He said, well, what do you think I should have done?
	I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race.
	You would have been a hero.
	I'd like to punch him in the face.
	I said if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
	Punch some people in the face!
	When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
	They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump, and that's a fact.
	Look as his character is stabbed to death.
	Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?
	I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
	A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated.
	I will go and take Trump out tonight.
	And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd!
	And you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
	And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
	They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
	And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up, and they should not.
	If you think we're rallying now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
	Everybody on that video, greetings dear friends, this is America First, is a democrat
	or a fake republican like the pro-pedophilia Lincoln file, Lincoln project founders.
	Thank you for watching.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	They're calling for violence for political purposes, not to defend themselves or to prevent an invasion from a foreign nation, but because they don't like you.
	They don't like who you voted for.
	And that's how we come to this, which occurred 6 p.m.
	on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	You see something that said, take a look what happened.
	I will not let that story die. Wherever I am.
	I'll be broadcasting from Milwaukee, from the RNC on Thursday, wherever I am.
	We will remind the world that they tried to murder my former boss.
	And nobody's sorry.
	Nobody's retracted their statements.
	Nobody said, we shouldn't have said what we said.
	Instead, the chief Democrat, the putative president, Joe Biden, in an interview with Lester Holt, What did he say?
	Well, um, he said the following.
	Cut one.
	Look, I've never seen a circumstance where you ride through certain rural areas of the country and people have signs there, big Trump signs with a middle sign saying F. Biden and a little kid standing there putting up his middle finger.
	I mean, that's the kind of stuff that is just inflammatory and Right, because that's what you say when you call him a threat to democracy.
	You're disagreeing over tax policy.
	And then you said, let's put him in the bullseye eight days ago.
	And now, now you're trying to deny it?
	Cut three.
	On a call a week ago, you said it's time to put Trump in the bullseye.
	There's some dispute about the context, but I think you appreciate that word.
	I didn't say crosshairs.
	I was talking about focus on.
	Look, the truth of the matter was, what I guess I was talking about at the time was, there was very little focus on Trump's agenda.
	Yeah, the term is bullseye.
	It was a mistake to use the word.
	I didn't say crosshairs.
	I said bullseye.
	I meant focus on him.
	Focus on what he's doing.
	What are you mumbling about crosshairs?
	You said bullseye.
	What do you do with a bullseye?
	You shoot it, you said that, and then somebody shot President Trump.
	Okay, I didn't have time to do this yesterday, just so much to cover.
	Here's the letter, an incredible letter, published the day after the assassination attempt by President Trump's beautiful wife, Melania Trump.
	You need to hear it, because I couldn't do this.
	This is what grace looks like.
	I am thinking of you now, my fellow Americans.
	We have always been a unique union.
	America, the fabric of our gentle nation, is tattered, but our courage and common sense must ascend and bring us back together as one.
	When I watched that violent bullet strike my husband Donald, I realized my life and Barron's life We're on the brink of devastating change.
	I am grateful to the brave Secret Service agents and law enforcement officials who risked their own lives to protect my husband.
	To the families of the innocent victims who are now suffering from this heinous act, I humbly offer my sincerest sympathy.
	Your need to summon your inner strength for such a terrible reason saddens me.
	A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to wring out Donald's passion, his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration.
	The core facets of my husband's life, his human side, were buried below the political machine.
	Donald, the generous and caring man who I have been with through the best of times and the worst of times.
	Let us not forget that differing opinions, policy, and political games are inferior to love.
	Our personal, structural, and life commitment until death is at serious risk.
	Political concepts are simple when compared to us, human beings.
	We are all humans, and fundamentally, instinctually, we want to help one another.
	American politics are only one vehicle that can uplift our communities.
	Love, compassion, kindness and empathy are necessities.
	And let us remember that when the time comes to look beyond the left and right, beyond the red and blue, we all come from families with the passion to fight for a better life together, while we are here in this earthly realm.
	Dawn is here again.
	Let us unite.
	Now, this morning, ascend above the hate, the vitriol, and the simple-minded ideas that ignite violence.
	We all want a world where respect is paramount, family is first, and love transcends.
	We can realize this world again.
	Each of us must demand to get it back.
	We must insist that respect fills the cornerstone of our relationships again.
	I am thinking of you, my fellow Americans.
	The winds of change have arrived.
	For those of you who cry in support, I thank you.
	I commend those of you who have reached out beyond the political divide.
	Thank you for remembering that every single politician is a man or a woman with a loving family.
	Support the President.
	You can go to DonaldJTrump.com to support him and his re-election.
	And all the America First material you could ever need is at our website, SebGorkerStore.com.
	Stay with us for the next three hours.
	You won't regret it.
	All right.
	Just need a title for that and for... Oh, and you've got the judge from yesterday, right?
	That we'll discuss with Julie?
	The... Cannon?
	Video clip?
	No, Judge Cannon.
	Hang on.
	I don't think I have any footage of her, no.
	No, not footage.
	The headline and the image of her.
	Oh, that.
	Okay, hang on.
	I gotta find it again.
	PhD.
	Mm-hmm Do you try sending it again?
	Those two pictures?
	Mm-hmm.
	Let me see if... I don't have them in the email.
	No, it would have been a text when your phone was still working.
	Yeah.
	I had to delete the conversation.
	Did you get the image of the brain cavity?
	The head diagram?
	Yeah, I got that.
	Okay.
	She's on the line.
	Mic's on.
	Hang on, let's pick something to come in with.
	Come in with nine and then I'll do PhD.
	Nine, alright.
	You can give me Julie.
	Two minutes.
	Mics are hot.
	Hey, are you still traveling?
	I got home last night.
	So why aren't you on camera?
	Because we had massive storms here last night.
	Luckily, we got in.
	There were actually tornado warnings in the city, downtown Chicago, which never happened.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Tornadoes.
	Tornadoes in Chicago.
	Are you sure it wasn't a sandstorm, Julie Kelly?
	A sandstorm?
	Uh-huh.
	From the lake?
	From the beaches?
	I'm being sarcastic.
	I'm sorry, I'm not used to sarcastic Seb.
	What?
	That's my language.
	It's my seventh language.
	I speak English, French, German, Hungarian, and sarcastic.
	Are you in Milwaukee?
	I will be tomorrow.
	Nice.
	Yeah, I was going to try to drive up there, but we have a bunch of roads out and everything.
	So, don't think I'll make it.
	Oh, wow.
	That's a bummer.
	I know.
	Bummer.
	Bummer.
	Last night was very well done.
	Yeah, let's talk about that.
	Let's talk about Eileen Cannon first and then let's talk about... Yeah, let's do it in that order.
	Let's talk about Cannon.
	Let's talk about last night.
	What else is important for you?
	Well, I mean, I think what's happening with the Secret Service and Kim Cheadle.
	We could talk a little bit about her, her background.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Let's do that in the second segment.
	All right, standby.
	Go.
	Just last week in Michigan, President Biden called Trump a threat to this nation.
	Should we expect that he will not be calling out Trump with that kind of rhetoric going
	forward?
	We believe it is important to continue to forcefully speak against any type of political violence.
	That is what the President believes.
	And we do not want to politicize this moment.
	Politicizing this moment is unacceptable.
	We believe, and the President believes, you heard from him in a very clear statement last night about the importance of uniting this country, the importance of continuing to do so, and that we cannot tear America apart to score political points.
	We cannot do that.
	So you can't give speeches in front of Independence Hall calling half of the nation MAGA extremists as you're bathed in demonic red light flanked by marines in their dress uniforms?
	You can't do that?
	You can't say we're going to put Donald Trump in the bullseye?
	Really?
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	So much to discuss!
	The Director of the Secret Service, you won't believe what she said about the assassination attempt against my former boss on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	We'll get to that momentarily.
	But first, the big news that was kind of swallowed by everything else with the opening of the RNC convention.
	Judge Eileen Cannon!
	We've found an honest judge in America throughout Jack Smith's absolutely outrageous case against President Trump.
	No one better to analyze it than the woman who goes to the court and watches the DOJ's shenanigans, the one and only Julie Kelly.
	Julie, welcome back to America First.
	Hi Seb, thanks for having me on.
	Now, this is monumental.
	I know I'm going to miss large parts of it, but my understanding as a layperson is the judge said, Jack Smith, you're not a special prosecutor.
	You're not a special counsel.
	You were appointed in contravention of the U.S.
	Constitution and statute.
	Because you don't work for the DOJ.
	You can't have a special counsel who's not part of the DOJ roster.
	And also, you weren't funded by Congress.
	Therefore, every penny spent to fund your office was illegally spent.
	Therefore, go away.
	What else am I missing, Julie?
	I mean, that's basically it.
	Trump's team filed a motion to dismiss this case last February, February 2024, based on the fact That Jack Smith's appointment is illegal, is unconstitutional, to your point.
	There's no statute that enables the appointment of a special counsel.
	The Independent Counsel Act, as you recall, was expired in 1999.
	So there is no subsequent legislation that permits the appointment of a special counsel.
	So they argue this.
	Now, at the same time, you had former Attorney Generals Edwin Meese and Michael Mukasey, who in the immunity matter, in Jack Smith's other indictment in Washington, they filed front of the court brief and very deep in a very detailed way outlined how Jack Smith's appointment violates both the appropriations clause and the appointments clause of the Constitution.
	So that was also added to this discussion in the classified documents case.
	Judge Cannon held almost two days of hearings last month in her courtroom.
	She allowed the front of court briefs on both sides for the government and for the defense to weigh in and brief her as well and to speak during these hearings.
	So this was a very exhaustive effort to try to figure out Yes, does Jack Smith's appointment violate the Constitution?
	And that is what she concluded in this 93-page order, as is Judge Cannon's style, very measured, very detailed, very thorough, explaining why his appointment does violate the Appointments Clause, because he is acting in the capacity, Seb, as a U.S.
	attorney.
	And those are 93 U.S.
	attorneys who are appointed by the president and who must be confirmed by the Senate.
	Jack Smith had none of this.
	Furthermore, then the DOJ was sort of arguing, well, he's an inferior officer, so we can appoint him.
	You know, the DOJ can hire him or can appoint him.
	OK, fine.
	But Congress needs to have passed legislation to enable his employment.
	And neither one of those exists when it comes to Jack Smith.
	So, and as you know, too, I think the argument got a huge boost when Justice Clarence Thomas
	in the immunity decision handed down by the Supreme Court on July 1, in concurring with
	the 6-3 decision about immunity, he filed a separate opinion where he specifically raised
	deep concerns about the unconstitutionality of Jack Smith's appointment.
	And that was something that Judge Cannon also relied on in her order yesterday.
	And what does this mean for the other case?
	I mean, I saw the post from Jack Smith's office where he's defiant.
	He says, oh, this is all blah, blah, blah.
	This is all wrong.
	When it comes to the January 6th case, is that going to collapse?
	What's your prediction?
	Well, I know this gets a little confusing, and I'm not an attorney, so I'll try to explain it.
	In the D.C.
	Circuit, they're already in 2019, a District Court judge in the Pellet Court there also upheld a challenge to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's appointment.
	So there's already case law in that circuit in Washington, D.C., that has upheld the constitutionality.
	I'm not exactly sure what the arguments were.
	I think they're different than what we saw in Florida.
	However, in Florida, in the 11th Circuit, there is no appellate case law that will determine, you know, there's nothing that tells her from the higher court, this is what we've decided in the past.
	This is a fresh issue there, of course.
	So she is not tethered to what happened in the Washington, D.C.
	case.
	And she was actually very critical.
	I won't say very critical, but she did dispute and disagreed with the conclusions that the district court and appellate court in Washington concluded related to upholding special counsel Robert Mueller, Robert Mueller.
	So at any rate, DOJ, now Jack Smith's team, is saying that they are going to appeal her order to dismiss the case.
	That's not unexpected.
	But how this impacts the Washington case, that has been on hold, as you know, Sep, since December.
	Yes.
	Awaiting the immunity opinion.
	And no motions have been filed in that case since December.
	So I'm expecting once Judge Chodkin restarts the proceedings, then Donald Trump's team will probably come in, use Judge Cannon's order, and again ask to dismiss the case.
	Based on the unlawful appointment of Jack Smith.
	She's not an attorney, which is a good thing.
	Follow her right now, juliekelly.substack.com.
	The book is January the 6th, What Happened Yesterday in Milwaukee, and what is the latest development from the Secret Service that's next.
	Make sure you give us a follow on all the social media platforms.
	look for Seb Gorka or Sebastian Gorka and my Substack with my analysis of the Saturday event is at sebastiangorka.substack.com
	What's your take about last night Julie?
	Thank you.
	I mean, I thought it was a really terrific start to the convention.
	I'm pleased with the selection of J.D.
	Vance.
	I think I'm more pleased that he didn't He didn't pick some of the other people whose names were floating around, so that's a relief.
	I think J.D.
	will do a terrific job as Vice President and certainly on the campaign trail with him.
	It's a very impressive ticket at this point.
	I mean, I have to say yesterday was probably one of the better days, I think I felt, and others, about Donald Trump's prospects for winning.
	All right, is there sound on cut 12?
	Yeah, but it's just cheers.
	All right, so pot it down so we can hear it, but we can talk over it, okay?
	And then Jeff, where's Jeff?
	No, no, I want to come in with cut 21.
	Oh, actually.
	No, that's that's fine. That's good.
	Come on, we'll be back.
	That's good.
	Neat titles, by the way.
	For Alex, don't give them an inch.
	especially now.
	Then...
	What was A about?
	The montage of Democrats' violent rhetoric?
	Oh, yeah.
	the only people responsible for the assassination attempt.
	Mm-hmm.
	Which one is John Strand, Julie?
	John Strand is a January 6th defendant who was convicted of the 1512c2 and 4 misdemeanors, sentenced to 32 months in prison.
	But because of the Fisher outcome at the Supreme Court, his lawyer petitioned to have him released after serving one year in prison.
	And he will be released July 24th.
	How many other people have their attorneys doing that approach?
	I mean, everyone who is in prison right now with the 1512c2 as the leading charge resulting in their prison sentence.
	They have filed those motions.
	Oh, really?
	Everyone has?
	Wow, that's great.
	Well, you know what?
	I shouldn't say that because I think there's probably two dozen who are in prison right now on that conviction.
	And it's hard to track all of them, but if their attorneys haven't already filed, which many of them did, that back in December when the Supreme Court granted cert in the Fisher case, and then of course, you know, these motions, some have been denied, some have been granted already, and so that's what the D.C.
	the courthouse is very busy right now.
	I'm gonna have 20 minutes.
	He's gonna be an awesome vice president.
	I've actually known him for over a decade.
	He and I were law school classmates and we both grew up in southwest Ohio.
	Like maybe 10, 15 minutes from where he grew up was where our parents' first house was.
	And I think he is going to be not only a good policy voice, but his story is an American dream story.
	And I think that he will give inspiration to a lot of people, but he also wants policies that allow a lot of people to live the same dream that he has.
	And I love him.
	He's in politics for the right reason.
	That is Vivek, who many were touting as the Vice President nominee.
	He was classmates with J.D.
	Vance.
	Who is J.D.
	Vance?
	Is it a good decision?
	Well, we'll play you some archival footage from when he was on the show, so you can get a sense, a measure of the man.
	And we'll return to our guest, Julie Kelly, in a moment.
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	We're back with Julie Kelly, the author of January 6.
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	Julie, let's talk about the The footage last night, we'll play it in the background with a low volume.
	This is my former boss entering the arena in Milwaukee where I will be tomorrow afternoon.
	Can you play it please?
	Welcome the next president of the United States, Donald J Trump.
	So, he looked quite serious by the time he got to the box where Tucker was waiting, Donald Trump Jr.
	It was clear it was an emotional evening.
	I've never seen Don Jr.
	look as emotional.
	He's a tough guy.
	I know that guy.
	And on top of that, just a little tactical observation, every member of the Secret Service team walking in with him was a large male as tall as the President.
	What did this arrival say to you as a keen observer of the 45th, and God willing if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States?
	I mean, I think it was a very emotional moment for everyone watching, and clearly the president was emotional, the family was, you could see the reaction from the crowd.
	You know, it just, you take a moment like that and you realize how close we came to a national tragedy.
	Not just a national tragedy, but, you know, the death of a husband, of a father, of a grandfather, a man beloved by millions of Americans.
	I think it was a moment where a lot of people watching really came to terms with what almost was.
	And just recognizing that no matter, you know, if you have disagreements on policy or et cetera, that this is a man who loves his country, who has sacrificed so much, and his family sacrificed so much, because he wants to restore the greatness and potential of America.
	And you know what, Seb?
	Even people like Jake Tapper and Chris Wallace and Gayle King reacted the same way.
	They were sort of surprised at themselves for the emotional reaction that they confessed that they had.
	All right, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Don't be nice to the mainstream media.
	Let's change subjects.
	We've got a minute and a half left.
	The Secret Service director has not resigned, has not been fired.
	Now we're finding even worse details about what happened on Saturday night.
	Your reaction to this woman's prevarication?
	I mean, it's going from bad to worse to obviously not just a fireable offense, but possibly criminal prosecution against the people responsible for putting Donald Trump's life at risk.
	And of course, you know, the death of an innocent man, a father, and the serious wounding of two more.
	And so this is getting more, it's not just, it's not comical at all, but to have Kim Cheadle out there explaining they didn't put snipers on the roof because the roof was slanted.
	To have Secretary Mayorkas, head of the DHS, which oversees the Secret Service, say he has 100% confidence in her.
	To have Joe Biden say he has 100% confidence in him, apparently not knowing that his head of the Secret Service, he appointed, is a woman.
	Or even the worst of all, that she's trying to blame local law enforcement in the town of Butler, who last I looked, weren't responsible for the security of the President.
	Also, and I think this will become a bigger question, Jill Biden decided a few days before that she would also travel to Pennsylvania close by and attend a dinner, and Kamala Harris was already planning to be there.
	So it looks like resources were diverted.
	That's what some of the reporting is suggesting.
	That is the case.
	I mean, HUD's obviously rolling back.
	No one is.
	It's outrageous.
	Dan Bongino has confirmed from his contacts that at least half of the poststanders The stationery observers and officers weren't even Secret Service agents.
	Julie Kelly!
	Thank you kindly.
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	patreon.com slash G o r k a. I mean, it's a wide variety there. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If you want a little variety from all the obvious coverage, then maybe the canon stuff.
	Otherwise... Yeah, um...
	But everyone's gonna be talking about the whole Trump stuff, so.
	Right.
	Massive victory for President Trump.
	Another massive victory for President Trump.
	Another massive victory for President Trump.
	Grab the top video.
	I guess it's what, 29?
	Um, that woman that said to kill Trump.
	It's in there.
	Cut 29, it's that woman that you sent me to kill Donald Trump.
	Uh, oh, in the railway station.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Great.
	One second.
	All right.
	Um, you want to see it?
	Yeah.
	If there was one thing you could change about the world, what would it be?
	Kill Donald and Trump.
	F*** him and the horse he came in on.
	I know you can't write that, but the man has destroyed democracy.
	He's a despicable liar.
	How long is it?
	30 seconds.
	Stop.
	Stop it.
	Continuing to spread lies.
	How long?
	There we go.
	30 seconds.
	30, okay.
	Come in with it, then I'll do e-voice.
	All righty All right
	You You
	.
	Forty seconds, coming in with the new cut.
	Mm-hmm.
	♪♪ ♪♪
	♪♪ you
	If there was one thing you could change about the world, what would it be?
	Kill Donald Trump.
	F*** him and the horse he came in on.
	I know you can't write that, but the man has destroyed democracy.
	He's a despicable liar who's continuing to spread lies and oppress poor, stupid, uneducated people, who I feel a lot for.
	You really divided the country.
	He's more than divided.
	He's a despicable human being.
	That's how we got here.
	Publicly.
	Americans.
	Calling for the death of Donald Trump.
	On camera, by the way.
	That's something I found today on Twitter from Karin Jovian.
	Interviewing somebody who just hopes President Trump dies.
	We don't do that on our side.
	Show me one video.
	Just show me one video of somebody saying that about Biden.
	On camera.
	You won't find it.
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	Let's start with line one, Dave in Arizona.
	Ultra mega critical thinking dittos from PSU SIGEP, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you, buddy.
	A couple things that I've noticed, and I've been looking at lots of video from Saturday,
	that just don't line up, and I'd love to get your opinion on each of them separately.
	The first one is after the event, we have five foot two bodyguards from Secret Service,
	allegedly, supposedly, trying to cover up the six foot four boss.
	Why did they not just take him out like he was on a stretcher, number one?
	Number two, the young man, the 20-year-old that climbed across that roof, I'm from that area of Pennsylvania.
	It's 6 o'clock.
	The temperature of that roof It's just basically rolled tin.
	It's 120 degrees.
	He shimmied across there for 20 minutes on his hands and knees with a short-sleeved shirt.
	It does not add up.
	He'd have third-degree burns.
	Hang on a second.
	Let's stop here because I kind of don't like where this conversation is going.
	So with that second point, I mean, the first one's so easy to answer because they're cretins and morons and they're diversity hires.
	What are you implying, Dave, with the second point?
	Which makes sense.
	The guy's a nutcase, okay?
	He's a psycho.
	So whether the roof is hot or not, what difference does it make?
	What are you inferring from that observation?
	I'm asking for people to use critical thinking.
	I don't know the answer to the question.
	Don't just ask a question.
	What are you inferring?
	Human beings saw him for 20 minutes.
	He wasn't a mirage.
	He was there on a hot roof.
	I get it.
	So what if it was hot?
	Are you saying he wasn't there and the bystanders were lying?
	No, I'm not saying that at all.
	You're a firearms guy.
	I'm a firearms guy.
	I don't know that I can crawl across a roof in a twisted shirt.
	But you're not a nutcase.
	You're not a mentally insane person who thinks it's a good idea to kill the leader of the opposition.
	What if this mental person is in utter complete pain but can ignore it because he's a nutcase?
	I guess.
	It seems out of the realm of possibilities.
	But it can't be, because we have multiple witnesses who saw him.
	Are they lying?
	They saw him on the roof.
	Are they lying?
	I would almost tend to think that such a large failure of the executive branch in this legal agency... But you're avoiding the question.
	Are the people who saw him for 26 minutes lying?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I gotta get to the other calls.
	Thank you, Dave.
	Let's go to Doug, Columbus, Ohio.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	I just was listening there earlier when you had the cut about Biden talking about the bullseye and all that.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't that sound like maybe a dog whistle?
	Have you ever heard that term before?
	Of course.
	So are you saying that the president is encouraging people openly to kill Donald Trump?
	Well, didn't Trump get accused of using a dog whistle in his speech?
	But again, I'm asking the question.
	Are you saying that this senile dotard who talks to dead people was actually telling Americans to kill President Trump?
	Are you going there?
	Well, when you look at it that way, I guess he can't think fast enough.
	Okay, good.
	Alright, thanks Doug.
	Let's go to Nancy, line four.
	Dr. Gorka, warm summertime greetings.
	Greetings!
	As I was watching the various expressions on Donald Trump's face at the RNC convention last night, I'm a person who has also been the fortunate recipient of life-saving miracles.
	And what I sensed was a combination of the rather predictable, very mixed emotions Ranging from immense joy and gratitude to be alive and grateful for so much love and support, but also a degree of sorrow for others who never think about or forget about how fragile life is and fail to appreciate every day as a gift.
	Yeah, that's a beautiful combination of emotions and probably what was coursing through the President's mind.
	I mean, he is met with adulation wherever he appears, but yesterday the energy, and I have friends there who are saying the energy in the room, in the building was unique last night, and I think you're absolutely right, Nancy.
	I don't know if he's had a brush with death in the past, you know, who knows whether when he was building, you know, doing his construction, whether he had an accident or a brush with Death in the past, but nothing like having a bullet travel at 3,000 feet per second hit your ear.
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	We've done.
	What else have we done?
	Oh, we did the montage, 16.
	We did Biden cuts 1 and 3, deflecting blame.
	I should probably use cut 18. 18?
	No, no, that's with... I want to do that with Conrad.
	Mm-hmm.
	These reports of the 30 minutes, some say Ruford and some are saying that they were spotted on the ground in the area.
	Like he wasn't on the roof for 30 minutes.
	Right!
	And you can see in the video he's- Yeah, cause he was spotted with the ladder and so forth.
	He was on the roof for about 4 minutes, we know that for sure.
	Right.
	And if nothing else, he went in probably figuring he was gonna die.
	But you can see the bystander video, that's a couple minutes forward, that's when he's crawling up.
	Yes!
	Yeah, can you make that point?
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	That was really good.
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	I can play the footage of that video too of them all pointing him out as he's just making the point.
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	You said something fascinating, Jeff, with regards to the timing and could this shooter be on a hot tin roof for 20 minutes?
	Can you clarify for that caller?
	Yeah, a lot of the reports are saying that he was spotted on the ground.
	It doesn't actually say the roof 26 minutes before as being suspicious.
	But the other thing is that video that we have with the bystanders, which was about two and a half minutes before the shooting starts.
	That's when you can actually see him crawling up the roof.
	Right, so he's only on the roof for a couple of minutes.
	He's spotted with the ladder on the ground.
	I mean, so we've got to get the timings right.
	Yeah, unless he got on the roof, then got off again and got up again 20 minutes later.
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	Oh gosh, the pro-licks John.
	Give it a try.
	Come on.
	Let me give you a quick quip here.
	What is President Trump's opening line likely to be at the convention?
	And this is in light of Ronald Reagan's eclamity and composure in a life-threatening situation.
	So you have to take it with that.
	Well, it's like when Ronald Reagan heard that balloon pop after the assassination attempt at another event and said, you missed.
	Yeah.
	He also told Nancy, honey, I forgot to duck, but here's what Trump is likely to say.
	Let me recommend another way to get your ear pierced.
	Oh gosh, that's too good.
	Stay on the line.
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	Give him one of the Butler Pennsylvania t-shirts.
	That's excellent.
	Let's go to Brent.
	I'm not going to even introduce you.
	Don't say hello, Brent.
	Just roll!
	Beautiful, blessed, hope-filled days, dear Sebastian.
	I said don't say hello.
	Go, you've got 70 seconds.
	Okay, every virtuous, loving, true American knows all thanks, blessings, and glory belong to God.
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	you Me.
	Look, I've been doing this for a long time.
	Oh The idea that I'm the old guy.
	I am.
	I'm old.
	But I'm only three years older than Trump.
	Number one.
	And number two, my mental acuity's been pretty damn good.
	I've gotten more done than any president has in a long, long time, in three and a half years.
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	Butler, Pennsylvania.
	You see something that said take a look what happened Hard to imagine a better guest to
	Discuss that event and it's ripples through history as it is being written right now
	Then a presidential historian a former media mogul the author most recently of a seminal work
	The political strategic history of the world volume one my good friend Conrad black
	Welcome back to America First, Conrad.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	So I don't know where to begin with somebody with your range of knowledge and with the works you have under your belt.
	You've got an article up at the New York Sun.
	Your initial thoughts about what the world witnessed this Saturday.
	Well, it was very dramatic, of course, and I think all sane people are grateful, but of course everyone feels sorry for it.
	Man, he was killed and his family and the people who were injured, apart from the ex-president.
	But I think everyone's—I mean, almost everyone is grateful that President Trump was not himself seriously wounded.
	And, you know, clearly his cool-headed response And his wife's gracious statements afterwards entitle him to an increase in his popularity.
	People respect that kind of cool judgment and distinguished conduct under the ultimate pressure, a mortal threat.
	And I think on the political side, although they're trying to straddle it and a feeble effort is being made by the Need your democratic media to say that Trump's comments are responsible for the overheated state of political discourse in the U.S.
	I think they are deprived of the only political argument they have left.
	They can't argue any of the issues.
	I mean, I guess they're running about even on abortion, but on immigration, inflation, taxes, Disposable income per family, foreign policy, the green terror, all of these things.
	The Democrats are a long way down the well, and so all I had was this nonsense that Trump was a dictator and if he was elected there'd never be a presidential election again.
	Well, they can't go on in that mode after this, in my opinion.
	So, you know, it was a shocking event and a tragic event, but in political terms, it's clearly another big step forward and upwards for the Republicans in the midst of Biden scrambling to try and hang on to his nomination over a majority of his own partisans who think they can do better than him.
	And I think the nomination of the vice presidential candidate was a very astute one also.
	What does it mean that the mainstream commentariat and even, you know, like Martha Raddatz, George Stephanopoulos, as you say, are blaming President Trump for being shot at, and even former congressmen, putative alleged conservatives like Adam Kinzinger, just said the following after the assassination attempt cut six.
	But what we can't do, and this is what I get worried about, is that we're going to be intimidated away from telling the American people the truth, which is Donald Trump truly is a threat to democracy in this country, and we have to stop that.
	But we stop it at the ballot box.
	So, there's a doubling down, seemingly.
	He's shot in the head.
	And we have former members of Congress saying we must continue to call him a threat to democracy.
	What are we to make of that?
	But it's also an insane tactical position.
	I mean, they cannot say, never mind that he was almost killed by an assassin, he's a minister of democracy and he is responsible, as you said a moment ago, he's responsible for this attempt on his life.
	I mean, we might as well blame Abraham Lincoln for the fact that he was shot at Ford's Theater.
	I mean, you know, people won't buy it.
	The Democrats are getting, by their own dishonesty and incompetence, boxed farther and farther and more and more deeply into a completely untenable argument that no appreciable section of the country can endorse.
	I mean, it's not Trump's fault that someone shot him and almost killed him.
	But that's what they're saying.
	That's what they're saying.
	Yeah, I know, but the country won't believe it.
	That one just won't fly.
	Let's put the events, take them out of political context and put them into historic context.
	You've just written this incredible historic tome.
	Can you talk to us about, because it beggars my belief, because I served in uniform, I
	was a reservist for just a few years.
	President Trump never did, never served in combat, went to a military high school, that's the breadth of it, the long and short of it.
	But he's shot at, he's bleeding.
	And he stands there.
	He takes control of his Secret Service detail that should have physically whisked him away, as Reagan was, within seconds of Hinkley firing.
	And he raises his fist and says, fight, fight, fight.
	We're okay.
	Don't panic.
	I mean, the spine of steel.
	I mean, historically, have we seen this like Teddy Roosevelt?
	Yeah, I mean, it's what Ernest Hemingway used to call grace under pressure.
	I mean, whether you agree with a man's policies, you have to acknowledge that he's a formidable and a courageous leader.
	And, you know, going back to the previous point, they cannot simultaneously say, as President Biden did in his remarks on Sunday night, we must Lower the temperature and and and and try and return to a Atmosphere of greater unity even as we debate legitimate issues between ourselves and at the same time say well Trump is Responsible for people try or someone trying to shoot him because he's responsible for this overheated atmosphere even though they're the ones saying that if the country votes for Trump
	There'll never be another election in the country again.
	I mean, they're just uttering nonsense.
	And everybody knows it.
	Even people who don't like Trump cannot seriously say he's a menace to democracy.
	We had him as the president for four years.
	He isn't the one who perverted the intelligence agencies and the justice system to get them
	into partisan operation against political opponents.
	And he's not the one who tried to silence or dictate to social media outlets what they could do.
	I mean, there is a menace to democracy, all right, but it's not from him.
	And they're just not gonna... That one will not fly.
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	You The people who are actually making headway in this country, saving this country, the regime, the ruling class in this country hates their guts.
	And unless somebody, unless the powerful people are hating your guts, it almost shows you're not actually doing anything right.
	J.D.
	Vance interviewed on this show as senator.
	Now he is the vice president nominee.
	Who is he?
	What kind of a pick is it?
	Let's have one more cut from him concerning his take on... Do you remember when the people of Cuba were trying to effect a regime change against their communist overlords?
	J.D.
	Vance had a very particular take when he was on our show not too long ago.
	It's also a little depressing because You know, I've heard some folks say they're waving the American flag because they want the Biden administration to come and help.
	It's sort of a signal to the Americans that we should come and help them.
	And as depressing as this is to say, if they wanted help from the Biden administration or the Biden regime, they'd be more likely to get it if they wave the rainbow flag or the BLM flag, because unfortunately, our own government doesn't even see Our flag is a symbol of freedom in the same way the Cubans do.
	What a great credit to the Cuban people and to our own people for recognizing that flag for what it is.
	But it's an incredible insult, I think, to our own government that they don't see the American flag the way the Cuban people do.
	Well put, the author of Hillbilly Elegy, Senator J.D.
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	Lord Black, J.D.V.
	Vance is a predictable choice for the president, the most America-first senator out there.
	Your take on this pick?
	Look, at first I didn't see the wisdom of it because, you know, he's from Ohio, which is a state that Trump is going to carry by a million votes anyway, so what did he need him for?
	I mean, no rap on him.
	It's just, you know, I'm of that school where you choose a vice president on the face of a disaster to bring you some voters you don't already have.
	On the other hand, Now that I know more about him, my only reservation about him is he needs a quick tutorial on geopolitics.
	He can't go on saying that he doesn't care who's governing Ukraine.
	I mean, we simply cannot have the Russians conquering Ukraine.
	I mean, that would reverse half of our Cold War victory against Russia.
	And as General Patton said, we're not paying for the same real estate twice.
	I mean, the Ukrainians have a right to independence, and we have to help them with that.
	But with that said, as long as he stays away from the isolationist stuff, I don't mean
	impetuous, stupid wars.
	I mean legitimate engagements of the American national interest with its authentic allies.
	With a slight brush-up in that area.
	I think he's a terrific candidate.
	He's young.
	He has this populist aspect, but he puts it in a relatively more intellectual way.
	If you look at his book, a number of passages are very philosophical, especially the religious part, where he changed religions.
	And I think he's in many ways an inspired choice, and I think he shows that there is
	a likelihood that the whole MAGA movement, which, despite the attempts of the Democrats
	to pillory it as fascism, is an intelligent and durable form of populism.
	And now you've got a 39-year-old incoming likely vice president, the same age Mr. Nixon
	was when he entered that office, and he's the logical successor to keep it going.
	And he's not remotely as controversial a figure as President Trump.
	So I think seen in that way, and looking to the future of the Republican Party, it's an outstanding choice.
	I think he's more of a—no rap at anyone else—but he's more of a heavyweight figure as a thinker Yes, yes.
	... political force than Rubio or Tim Scott.
	I admire both of them.
	They're fine.
	They would have been fine as choices, but I think Vance is really a very talented young
	man with, you know, when he, choosing him buttons and strengthens the Republican future.
	I think he'll be a very good candidate this fall, too.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	I raved about his book because even though he was an anti-Trumper at the time, Hill, Billy Elegy, really painted the picture of how the Uni Party, as Bannon calls it, betrayed the working class by outsourcing jobs and not taking the I believe it does, and when asked about it he says, I made a mistake.
	I made a mistake, and I saw the mistake, and I corrected my view.
	that he has gone from being anti-Trump to one of the most America-first senators on
	Capitol Hill.
	Does that add to his credibility in a minute and a half, Lord Black?
	I believe it does.
	And when asked about it, he says, I made a mistake.
	I made a mistake, and I saw the mistake, and I corrected my view.
	And you make an excellent point.
	It is a long time since anyone nominated to national office has come from a more improbable
	and difficult early provenance than he has.
	I mean, with drug abuse and physical abuse and broken marriages in his family and into the Marine Corps.
	Then to Yale, well I guess there's a university in between, but it's really an inspiring case of someone bootstrapping himself up from a most unpromising start to a nominee for vice president at the age of 39.
	It's a wonderful story.
	When I was in the White House on Thanksgiving weekend, Steve, I hate autobiographies, I can't stand them, I don't have the patience.
	Your autobiographies, which were superb.
	And Bannon says to me, you've got to read this book, Hillbilly Elegy.
	And I wasn't interested.
	I got the paper back.
	I read it that Thanksgiving weekend.
	And it is one of the best explications of how tens of millions of working class Americans voted for the billionaire from Manhattan.
	So guys, if you want to know who J.D.
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	I mean, you're not at the convention, are you?
	Katie and I are flying there tomorrow.
	We'll be broadcasting from there on Thursday.
	Well, you tell me something.
	I'm reading this stuff about how Melania wasn't there, but she was standing right behind him, wasn't she?
	Oh, it's garbage.
	I mean, I did an interview for the Times of London, or the Telegraph.
	It was the Telegraph.
	And it was all about Melania.
	And they gave it... I excoriated the reporter, but he said he didn't pick The headline was why Melania is distancing herself from President Trump, which she isn't.
	It's all about clickbait.
	It's appalling.
	It's utterly appalling.
	When you saw the picture of him, she was standing, or sitting, right behind him to his right.
	Right.
	Let me, whilst I'm at it... It's because you don't see her as much as Jill, because she doesn't help him off the stage.
	Exactly, because she doesn't have to help her husband off the stage.
	Let me dig up this article that they just ran, and I'll send it to you.
	Who did I send it to?
	I sent it to Secretary Wilkie.
	I'd love to have your take on how they got away with doing this.
	Where is it?
	Where is this article?
	Oh, maybe I emailed it to him.
	I'll email it to you as well.
	Yeah, I was shocked.
	It was a good article, and then the editors put this outrageous headline on it, which I guess is what they want to do when they get clicks, I guess.
	Where is it?
	Well, time will take care of that, you know what I mean?
	For the next three and a half months, there'll be pictures of the two of them together, so all this theory that she's distancing herself is just nonsense.
	But it shows how these people who don't like Trump are scraping the barrel to find things to complain about.
	Yeah, yeah, no, he's in big trouble right now.
	Oh, yes, it was the Telegraph.
	It was the Telegraph.
	Wait a minute, who's in big trouble?
	Donald isn't.
	No, no, no, no, no, the Democrats and Biden.
	Look, Biden is in a terrible situation.
	I mean, you know, he can't say, let's emphasize unity.
	And by the way, if my opponent wins, it'll be the end of democracy.
	I mean, he just can't do it.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's all they've got.
	That's all the script they have.
	Well, you know, it's not the correct fare to get in the public transit system.
	All right.
	I'll be emailing you tonight.
	That was super.
	And wish me luck with that.
	Oh, Eric, at the top.
	Tim Scott.
	Crazy, crazy convention.
	I've never been to one of these conventions.
	Yeah, well, have a good time out there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank you, Conrad.
	God bless.
	Bye-bye.
	How long is it?
	It's a minute, right?
	I cut off at the last ten seconds, because he said the same thing twice.
	Okay, good.
	That's what triggered the Joy Reid thing.
	Where she said that MAGA, like, people of color... Oh, okay, okay.
	They went on for like ten minutes, though.
	Good.
	Come in with it.
	Coming in with Tim Scott.
	Cut thirty.
	Alright.
	Title for black. Um, JD.
	Vance and a colon an excellent choice you
	you you
	you if you didn't if you didn't believe in miracles before
	Saturday you better be believing right now
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank God Almighty that we live in a country that still believes in the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, the Alpha and the Omega!
	And our God, our God still saves, He still delivers, and He still sets free!
	Because on Saturday, The devil came to Pennsylvania holding a rifle, but an American lion got back up on his feet, and he roared!
	He was sitting, that's Tim Scott, sitting next to President Trump last night after he entered next to Tucker Carlson and Don Jr.
	What an amazing, amazing speech.
	Beautifully put.
	I think we'll see him, you know, if God willing we do our part and President Trump is re-elected.
	I think Senator Scott will be somewhere at the highest level of that administration.
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	Yes, sir.
	One of the things that after you've served in the military you learn how to wait patiently and then of course you have to deal with the hurry up and wait in responding to a situation.
	It's funny that's universal in the British Army it was always hurry up and wait!
	Hurry up and wait!
	It's the same thing in the Navy and with the Marines.
	Same thing.
	Dr. Gorka, you are an anchor for millions of your listeners, of us patriots and constitutionalists and such.
	and you give us an anchor to steady our course on these rough waters of the 21st century.
	I have to put President Trump in the same miracle category as President Reagan and Pope
	John Paul II.
	And if this was a miracle, it's because the Almighty heard the millions and millions of
	prayers and he has said, I'm going to give America one more chance, and that's with Donald
	Trump.
	Why I called in is, I spoke with you a year and a half ago and you sent me your Defeating Jihad book when you found out that I had been working the polls for 25 years because you were talking about the integrity of polls.
	Why I'm calling in today is I want to share my take on Donald Trump when he walked into the convention center.
	Here is a man who has not been broken.
	Here is a man who is so deeply committed.
	Let's play the footage, guys, while our friend John is speaking.
	President Trump arriving at the convention center.
	A man not broken.
	Continue, John.
	What I saw was not a weight or burden falling upon him.
	I saw a man deeply committed, because he knows what the loss would be for us if we lost him.
	And he carries that.
	He has said time and time again, I'm not in this for me, I'm in this for you.
	If they can come after me, they can come after you.
	And he has been fighting for us, and when he walked out in the convention floor last night, there was a man who knew the deep, What connection we have, and what the loss of his life would be for tens of millions of Americans and America, and that's what I saw last night.
	And, Dr. Gorka, I want to thank you for the book you sent me a year and a half ago.
	I've only called in twice to your show.
	You sent me The Defeating Jihad when you found out that I had worked the polls for 25 years.
	And I don't remember what Patriot said this, but you'll know that there are times when There are times when the tree of liberty must be nourished by the blood of patriots.
	And I can hardly speak that out.
	I also want to thank you.
	In the last month, you have twice read the writing by Charles Provence of It Is the Soldier.
	I've been giving out this writing for 15 years to people.
	And you are the only other person I know besides myself that has offered that to the public, and you read it both times, and maybe you'll read it again for people's listening.
	Well, now we're going to add, it's not just the soldier, it's the president, and God willing the future president.
	John, I'm very appreciative for what you just shared with us, the emotion in your voice and your right.
	Like Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, blessed St.
	John Paul II, There are some leaders who are just under the wings of our Lord and Savior.
	Stay on the line.
	John, Jeff, let's give John the t-shirt with the president from Butler, Pennsylvania, sebgorkestore.com for yours.
	He gets his for free.
	God bless you.
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	Yes.
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	LJGreywolf4$1 says, watch Dr. G's interview with Sky News Australia.
	Fantastic.
	Thank you, that was fun.
	Do you want me to show just like a picture of him first, and then the family's post?
	No, first the post, and then... Then a picture of him, yeah.
	Well, actually, you can't do them at the same time, can you?
	Well, you have to cycle one by one.
	Do his picture first.
	Okay.
	Truth Warriors.
	Okay.
	Uh, what have we not played?
	Let's show... There's not a lot we haven't played.
	Um... There's still the Milk Bar video.
	Yeah, that's just as hard to do.
	It's so long.
	to do. Maybe Lee Zeldin.
	Come in with 22 and then I'll do Truth Warriors.
	Okay, 22 in the Truth Warriors.
	90 seconds.
	Mm-hmm.
	...
	You Female Secret Service Agents.
	Let's talk about it.
	They should not be protecting a 6'3 United States President.
	This, this is a photo you haven't seen yet.
	Maybe because they don't want it out there.
	Look at her cowering!
	Are you kidding me?
	None of them can even fully cover him.
	What if he had actually been seriously hit?
	Were they gonna just drag his 200 plus pound body?
	They were hanging around the men who were actually doing all the work.
	They were basically decoration.
	Not to mention, they might have actually made it more dangerous.
	And this agent, she can't even holster her gun, okay?
	She cannot holster her gun.
	She's also wider than she is tall, so I don't know what kind of fast action she'd actually be able to help with.
	And this one here was adjusting her sunglasses.
	At one point, one of the agents was actually hiding behind the president and using him as a human shield to protect herself.
	Now, can women be in the Secret Service?
	Yes, there are lots of other jobs that don't involve protecting the most threatened man in the history of our country.
	If you had grabbed any random guy from the crowd, If you had given them these agents' guns without any prep, they would have done a better job.
	Men and women are different.
	We contribute to society equally, but differently.
	And you just know that some badass Green Beret or Navy Seal was passed up for the job.
	This?
	This is why there is a gender pay gap.
	Yeah, why can't they just hire really large Navy SEALs, retired Green Berets?
	I don't know who that is, but I love her.
	Arine Wexler on Instagram on why female, short, fat, female Secret Service agents to protect a six-foot-three president is sheer, sheer insanity.
	It's breaking news.
	I can't give you any more details.
	Some people are already spinning conspiracy theories around it, so I'm not going to.
	I'm just going to read to you from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
	Ohio police officer shoots and kills person in Milwaukee outside of the RNC perimeter.
	Okay?
	I'm not going to say what he was doing there because I don't know, but a police officer outside the RNC perimeter Has been involved in a deadly force incident, killing somebody who may or may not be connected to an assault or attempt against the RNC.
	As we have information, we will provide it for you.
	Okay.
	Let's talk about a person who has been lost in the coverage.
	That individual was, I think, just turned 50 years old.
	He is an individual who died on Saturday.
	Fire Chief Corey Comperatore.
	He died lying on top of and protecting his family, his daughter and his wife.
	Here is the posting from Facebook from the family, from Alison Comparatore.
	Yesterday, time stopped.
	And when it started again, my family and I started living a real-life nightmare.
	What was supposed to be an exciting day that we had all looked forward to, especially my dad, turned into the most traumatizing experiences someone could imagine.
	I know the media will cover this event, and I'm going to try my best to stay away from looking at everything, especially because I've already seen and lived through it in real time.
	But I want everyone to know what the media will not cover and will not say about him.
	He was the best dad a girl could ever ask for.
	My sister and I never needed for anything.
	You call, he would answer.
	And he would do whatever it is you needed.
	And if you didn't know how, he would figure out how.
	We could talk and make friends.
	He could talk and make friends with anyone, which is which he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it.
	He was a man of God, loved Jesus fiercely, and also looked after our church and our members as family.
	The media will not tell you that he died a real-life superhero.
	They are not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mum and I to the ground.
	They are not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us.
	He loved his family.
	He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us.
	And I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him thank you.
	I want nothing more than to wake up and for this to not be reality for me and my family.
	We lost a selfless, loving husband, father, brother, uncle, son, and friend, and I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day I die.
	July 13th will forever be a day that changed my life.
	I will never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago.
	There are a lot of children out there that say their dad is their hero, but my dad really is mine.
	I don't think I would be here today without him.
	Dad, I love you so much that there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes.
	I know you'll give heaven some hell.
	I know that God is proud of the man that came to his gates yesterday.
	Alison Comparatore, daughter of Chief Corey Comparatore, who died July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	Rest in peace, Chief.
	Stand down.
	We've got this.
	Kathleen, Arizona, Line 5.
	Bye.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm kind of teared up over that.
	I just wanted two things.
	I think the Left needs to go back to Sunday school and go over the Golden Rule.
	And my question for you is, after All these past years of all the horrible lies and deceit and disgust, is anyone ever going to be punished or held accountable for what they've done to our country and to President Trump?
	Well, Kathleen, the only way that will happen is if every one of the three and a half million people listening spends the next four months registering voters, convincing Independents and Democrats that they have to save America by re-electing President Trump.
	There is no other way.
	We take nothing for granted.
	I don't even know if they attempt to murder my former boss will move the needle with people
	who are heartless, who believe the brainwashing, the indoctrination.
	So Kathleen, be strong, be strong, be strong, and make sure that we have a chance for justice
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	Don't go anywhere, my friends.
	Thanks for watching!
	I'm not a fan of the sound of this.
	Fk it, fk the dude, the firefighter guy, fk Trump, fk the people that support him.
	I just want you to know, okay, just in case you're confused or it seems like I'm, you don't, whatever, if one of you were in the crowd and you're a conservative fan of mine and you end up, you know, getting blown away or whatever the f**k, I'm making fun of you the next day on Twitter.
	I am 100%.
	You You
	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	The fire chief who was murdered.
	The left has no soul.
	Remember the leftist I debated a couple of months ago?
	Borrelli is his name.
	He goes by the modest title of Distant Destiny.
	Well, this is what he said about the person who was murdered in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	Stunning.
	Fk it, fk the dude, the firefighter guy, fk Trump, fk the people that support him.
	I just want you to know, okay, just in case you're confused or it seems like I'm... you don't... whatever.
	If one of you were in the crowd and you're a conservative fan of mine and you end up, you know, getting blown away or whatever the f**k, I'm making fun of you the next day on Twitter.
	I am.
	100%.
	Jeff, shouldn't Stephen Bunnell be in prison?
	That's what I was thinking.
	That should be an investigation there.
	Because he's saying that if you're a supporter of President Trump, like the Chief, it's good that you're dead.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to send that clip to the trigonometry guys who hosted that debate.
	That's who the left are.
	They're insane.
	Utterly, completely insane.
	And they have a plan.
	It's called Next Gen Marxism, and Katie has the whole explanation of how we got here.
	The book Next Gen Marxism, co-authored with Mike Gonzalez, is the answer.
	Get it today.
	Richard, Las Vegas, Line 2.
	Hello, Dr. Gorkon.
	Hey.
	Go ahead.
	You're live.
	Go ahead, please.
	We don't have much time.
	The U.S.
	Army, in full uniform and in large numbers, should be used alongside the Secret Service to protect all of our candidates.
	And the Director of the Secret Service should report directly to one of our four-star generals.
	Thank you.
	No, absolutely not.
	The general staff has been riven through with DEI woke anti-American ideology.
	Just look at Mark Milley.
	I like your idea, but it should be... They should report to, at most, a lieutenant colonel.
	Somebody who hasn't been infected.
	Maybe a major.
	Let's pick a green beret major for every person who's in the threat envelope and have them run protection for the candidates.
	Oh, by the way, Eric, isn't it amazing that President Trump already runs America?
	He told Biden yesterday, he ordered Biden to give RFK Jr.
	Secret Service protection, and Biden agreed.
	Do we need to have an election?
	Does it sound like President Trump's already the president?
	Sounds like they've already thrown in the towel with about three and a half months to go.
	They know how this is going to go down.
	They know they can't possibly beat him at this point.
	Nothing for granted, guys.
	Nothing for granted.
	Like the third monkey trying to get onto Noah's Ark.
	But God bless President Trump.
	He got secret service protection for RFK Jr.
	Even though RFK Jr.' 's son unbelievably leaked the recording of Donald Trump's call to RFK after he was shot.
	God, these people.
	Anyway.
	We're going to talk to the expert on communism in America, the one and only Paul Kengel, next here on America First.
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	So exciting!
	If you're in the behind-the-scenes for this show, we were going to talk about Soviet politics and their intrusion into America, but instead we ended up talking with our guest about Ray Harryhausen and classic movies from the 1980s.
	Ursula Andress, Laurence Olivier, and Harry Hamblin.
	Clash of the Titans.
	How did we get there?
	I'm sure he can explain.
	He's the good professor!
	The one and only Paul Kenger, Editor-in-Chief of The Spectator.
	Welcome back to a very special one-on-one, Professor.
	Thank you, Seb.
	And Ursula Andress was exactly the actress that I was thinking of.
	Beautiful.
	She was Clash of the Titans, right?
	The original.
	The only one that exists.
	There was no remake.
	Let's ignore it.
	But a movie from my childhood that I liked.
	Can you imagine?
	You've got Larry Olivier playing Zeus.
	You've got Burgess Meredith from the Batman TV show.
	He was great.
	Amazing!
	And then the effects.
	Oh, by the way, I'm just gonna completely geek out here.
	And, as a young man, in England, at the British Film Institute, I got to meet Ray Harryhausen, the man behind the special effects.
	Wow.
	And Burgess Meredith, not long before that was the trainer in Rocky, right?
	Yes.
	A lot of people forget that.
	Mick, I think is his name, right?
	And also he did a couple of great Twilight Zone episodes.
	Oh, the most famous.
	I mean, if you do, there's the one about the gremlins with Captain Kirk, right?
	That's very famous.
	But I think there's a consensus.
	The greatest episode of the Twilight Zones is the future post-apocalyptic one with Burgess Meredith, correct?
	Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.
	But there's also one where it's called something like all the time in the world where he plays a bank teller.
	And, and he's in the vault reading during lunch, because that's what he does.
	He always wants to read even when he's counting money.
	And so he miscounts money.
	And nuclear war goes on while he's in the vault.
	And he comes out as the only survivor.
	And he's walking around.
	Don't spoil it.
	Don't spoil it.
	There's an obvious end to that movie for a guy who loves to read books.
	If you haven't seen it, the original Twilight Zone.
	Superb, superb, superb.
	All right, we could do movie reviews.
	I didn't realize this.
	I thought he's the preeminent scholar.
	Back to our topic, right?
	I mean, we're going to talk about the Soviet Union a little bit.
	So this is all that era, Cold War, nuclear fears.
	I mean, so many of the Twilight Zones were about exactly that, the fears of nuclear war.
	I mean, how many of them were about building bomb shelters?
	Oh my gosh.
	Are we over the same generation?
	What vintage is the good professor?
	What year were you born in, if I may be so bold?
	I was born December 1966.
	I'm 57.
	You wear it well.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, thank you.
	So my era was really the 80s.
	And by the way, you and I should talk about this sometime.
	I really think the 80s was the greatest decade.
	I mean, it was...
	And not just because, you know, you and I are Reagan guys.
	But I mean, think about the accomplishments, right?
	End of the Cold War, you had leaders like Thatcher and Reagan, John Paul II.
	I mean, the music was good in the 80s.
	I mean, there's just so much.
	I really think it was the last great decade.
	You will hear no contention from me, as is a permanent issue in our household.
	My wife, who's from a slightly different era, refuses to agree with me that the empirical data is incontrovertible, that the 1980s has the best music, the best movies, maybe not the best hairstyles, I'll give Katie that, maybe the 80s The show depends on better hairstyles in the 70s, right?
	Right.
	And better hairstyles in the 70s.
	And I think the music of the late 70s was actually really good.
	Pop music in the late 70s was kind of incredible.
	Early 70s awful.
	Um, but, um, and sports in the seventies, I could go on and on about that, especially as a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, right?
	Uh, but the NFL in the 1970s, I think that was the best era, best decade.
	I know nothing.
	I know nothing about American sports.
	Cause you know, I grew up in the UK and I played rugby and cricket, but I looked back, I had, um, who was it?
	It was, um, a friend of our colleague, Jennifer Horns, um, has a former NFL player.
	Who's a colleague of hers on the radio in LA.
	Who was that actor, Eric?
	Do you remember that that actor who had the TV show as a cop?
	Uh, not Grady.
	Anyway, he's a former player and I had him on the show and I decided to do a little bit of research and I watched the videos of him playing.
	Uh, I think it was for the Rams and it was beautiful.
	It was so athletic.
	Is it Fred Dreyer?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	All right.
	You've got the points.
	You've got the points.
	He's early 70s.
	He might be in the Hall of Fame.
	If he's not, he probably should be.
	There was nobody on the field who was 300 pounds with their guts hanging out.
	And watching Fred Dreyer's old videos, he moved like a decathlete.
	He was spry.
	He was elegant.
	So I don't know.
	He was really good.
	We've got movies.
	We've got music.
	We've got sports.
	Maybe we'll leave out the hair and the fashions, but that's about it.
	All right.
	And let your wife know for the record that she's just wrong.
	I will quote you.
	I will quote the good professor, the editor-in-chief of the American Spectator.
	I'm sure it'll work.
	I'm sure it'll work.
	Well, let's maybe talk about About that which I wanted to discuss with you.
	You are, in addition to your trivia knowledge and your expertise on the greatest decade known to man, you are the America's premier expert on communism, dictatorial systems, and I just want to bounce off you.
	This article that came out last week from an amazing friend of the show, Victor Davis Hanson, this is his Blade of Persia subscription service, and I thought this would appeal to you greatly.
	The title is, Our Brezhnev, Our Pravda, and Our Soviet Union.
	And of course he's referring to Joe Biden, he's referring to the mainstream media, and the fact that we're living in a gerontocracy, A nation run by a senile old man who can't do one presidential debate.
	How on point is the good Professor Hansen's comparison of the current regime in America and the Soviet Union of the 80s under the man with the eyebrows, Leonid Brezhnev?
	Yeah, well, actually, I'd say Leonid Brezhnev looks like Fred Dreier compared to Joe Biden.
	I mean, Brezhnev died.
	This is what a geek I am.
	You can tell I'm not looking at the computer, right?
	He died November 10th, 1982.
	So he was probably Mid-70s.
	He didn't make it to 80.
	I mean, so many of those guys couldn't make it to 80.
	I mean, we had the phrase octogenarians, and we were talking the 1980s and 1990s about the Chinese Politburo, right?
	It was run by a country of 80-year-olds.
	Most of these Soviet leaders didn't even make it that far.
	In fact, remember Reagan's favorite line, I want to negotiate with the Soviet leaders, but they keep dying on me.
	So you had Brezhnev who died November 10th, 1982.
	And by the way, after his wife said, after having been visited by two guys from the KGB, who then came out and said, Mrs. Brezhnev, we have bad news.
	Your husband has died.
	And they wouldn't let her see the body.
	In fact, she didn't get to see the body until I think it was in the Hall of Mirrors in the Kremlin.
	So he died in 82, and then you have Chernyomyrdin and Dropov, Chernyomyrdin.
	And Chernyomyrdin, who was the General Secretary for about three minutes, right?
	Before he died.
	Yeah, Chernenko.
	Chernenko.
	Chernyomyrdin came later in the late 90s, but so was Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Dropov, and then Gorbachev.
	So between 1982 and March of 85, when Gorbachev comes in, four Soviet leaders in three years, And so when Reagan said, I want to negotiate with these guys, would they keep dying on me?
	That was the case.
	But Brezhnev, as sick as he was, Chernenko, who could barely lift his right hand up in the air to salute to the Red Army when they came by in the May Day parade, because his lungs were so filled with emphasis.
	at least mentally sharper than Joe Biden.
	And that's...
	Well, this is a concrete comparison.
	So let's talk about Pravda, Izvestia, Taz, the propaganda machine.
	The New York Times.
	Yeah, the New York Times, the fact that we know...
	Everybody who's got eyes can see this guy's cognitively impaired.
	And we find out now that a Parkinson's disease doctor has gone to the White House eight times.
	But of course, the mainstream media... And it's worse, isn't it?
	Because then, those quote-unquote journalists had to comply, or they'd go to the gulag.
	CNN, The Washington Post, they do this of their own volition, professor!
	Yeah, in fact, you know, the Parkinson's thing is quite interesting.
	I actually keep here on my desk here at my home office.
	My wife framed this.
	This is Bill Clark and I. Bill Clark was Ronald Reagan's closest advisor.
	He's the guy that really won the Cold War.
	Head of the NSC from 1982 and all of 1982, 1983.
	I was his biographer.
	He was like a grandfather to me.
	Hold on, because not enough people know about who this person is, Bill Clark.
	I don't want to give it short shrift, so stay with that story.
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	My favorite is Dupes, but you can get The Pope and The President, you can get The Devil and Karl Marx, anything with his name on the spine is worth your time.
	So, um, I want you to tell the story in full of the photograph that's on your desk there in your office.
	You said something quite startling.
	You said this man, who most Americans have never heard of, really won the Cold War.
	So who is he, and why is he so important for today?
	Yeah, William P. Clark, Bill Clark, known as the Judge, because Reagan in California had appointed him up to the California Supreme Court level.
	And then Reagan brought him to D.C.
	with him in 1981.
	By the way, I could go on and on about this.
	When he was first appointed Deputy Secretary of State under Al Haig, in his hearings, Bill Clark's hearings before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 2nd and 3rd, 1981, he was intentionally humiliated.
	By the Delaware Senator Joe Biden.
	It was one of Biden's most infamous early moments.
	Biden's been a sleaze for over 40 years.
	Well, we know about what he did to Clarence Thomas.
	What did he do to the judge?
	So he intentionally asked Clark a bunch of questions that he knew he wouldn't know.
	Kind of esoteric questions.
	Who's the leader of this country in Africa, that country over there?
	All things that Joe Biden would know by heart, right Professor?
	Well, yeah, and exactly.
	And in fact, Clark is such a charitable, sweet, really kind of holy guy.
	All right.
	And Trump said, well, you know, Senator, as I explained in my testimony, I'm not here for my foreign policy expertise.
	I'm here to help manage the department.
	And when all of this was over and Clark's kids, they tell me the story to this day, they were crying in the front row.
	They were so upset at what was going on when it was all over away from the camera.
	Biden walks up to Clark, puts his arm around him and says, hey, hey, judge.
	Hey, no hard feelings.
	And by the way, I didn't know the answers to any of those questions either.
	And so the London Telegraph, London Times said, the new secretary, Mr. No, Dr. No, the guy who doesn't know anything.
	So he intentionally humiliated Clark.
	He did the same thing to Ed Meese.
	He did it to Judge Bork.
	He did it to Clarence Thomas.
	He did it to Bill Barr, on and on and on.
	He's been doing this for years, for decades.
	So Clark ends up eventually running Reagan's NSC, National Security Council, all of 82, all of 83.
	And he's the guy, he was there when Brezhnev died.
	He's the guy that, with Reagan, laid the groundwork for the plan to win the Cold War.
	So that was Bill Clark.
	The only reason I started mentioning him is you mentioned Parkinson's.
	Bill Clark ended up dying from Parkinson's disease.
	Now, this would have been August 2013.
	He was 81 years old.
	And like I said, he was like a grandfather to me, so I knew him really well.
	And I could tell you, when I saw Biden on that stage in that debate with Donald Trump a few weeks ago, that kind of catatonic-like stare, that kind of frozenness at times, and the video that I've seen of him, and the pictures of him, I said to my wife, I said, he looks like he has Parkinson's.
	He actually looks like he has Parkinson's.
	Now obviously, that can only be determined by a neurologist and a doctor.
	I don't know for sure if he does.
	But I even said to my wife, I said, he's gotta be getting evaluated for Parkinson's.
	He's just got to be.
	I mean, look at him, look at him.
	So to learn just a few weeks after that debate that a neurologist had come in eight times in eight months, as reported even by the New York Times, to evaluate him for Parkinson's, I wasn't surprised at all.
	And I wouldn't be surprised If, you know, a year or two from now, if he's lost the election, if he's out of office, then maybe we learn some things like that, like he was being seriously tested for it.
	Because he's not in good shape.
	He really does look too old.
	And how does this parallel to what we saw in the Soviet Union?
	Because anybody who doubted or even raised a question about the president's health in the last few years was labeled by the mainstream legacy media as a conspiracy theorist, Paul.
	Yes, exactly right.
	And in the old Soviet Union, one of the reasons that they went to Mikhail Gorbachev, who I think was 54 years old when he was picked.
	In fact, he was born the same year, I think, as Bill Clark, 1931.
	One of the reasons that they went with Gorbachev is because he was 20 years younger than Reagan.
	And Reagan in his mid-70s—and by the way, you remember this, right?
	Remember the liberal media in the 1980s?
	Oh, Reagan's too old to be president!
	When he was running in 1980, he was 69 years old.
	Oh, that's too old.
	That's too old.
	And Reagan was in great shape.
	Reagan was in such good shape that after he was nearly assassinated and bled to death, he popped right back up and was fine.
	But in Biden's case, all the people around him can tell that he's too old.
	He needs replaced by somebody younger.
	And that's what the Soviet Union did.
	One of the main reasons they went with Gorbachev is to pick a younger guy in better health, more dynamic, who frankly could go toe-to-toe with Reagan on these great battles on the global stage.
	Right now, Joe Biden could engage in no battles on the global stage.
	And what really concerned me, especially after that debate, was I thought to myself, I wonder what the Chinese What Xi, what Russia, what Putin are thinking right now.
	If I was them, and they are ruthless SOBs, right?
	If I was those guys, I'd think to myself, okay, we've got, what is this, June?
	Hmm, we've got six, seven months to move on Taiwan, to amp it up against Ukraine.
	Because this guy could be out of office by next January, very likely now is the time to move.
	When there's clearly an incapacitated commander-in-chief in the United States.
	Yeah, and not only was President Reagan shot and survived, he's making jokes on the operating theater with the doctors as he's going under to be saved and the reply from the surgeon was, We're all Republicans here today, Mr. President.
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	Every week, every, what is it, Thursday?
	Every Thursday I'm on Breitbart Sirius XM The Patriot Channel with the great Mike Slater and he asked me this question that kind of took me back with regards to police state in America and have we arrived and for the longest time I couldn't really countenance agreeing with that statement That communism or socialism or the police state tactics have arrived, because my father resisted communism, was arrested, tortured and imprisoned for his resistance to communism.
	But Paul, I have to say, after the last three years, and especially what happened to Steve Bannon a week ago, what happened to Peter Navarro a month ago, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, 73-year-old grandmas being put in prison for praying at Planned Parenthood, I find it hard to deny the reality that the police state isn't a danger.
	It's arrived to America.
	Am I being hyperbolic?
	Well, the great concern to me, in fact, I saw our friend Dinesh D'Souza at the Pennsylvania Leadership Conference in April.
	I've known Dinesh going back years.
	And of course, Dinesh got thrown in jail, right?
	And he made a statement, he said to the crowd of about 1,000 that Friday night, he said,
	if the Democrats could, if the liberals could, they'd put all of you in jail just for being
	here tonight, right?
	And I heard somebody at a table next to me groan, right, thinking that that's hyperbole
	and so forth.
	And, of course, they wouldn't put you in jail unless they really could legally put you in
	jail.
	But the fact is, liberals and Democrats, in fact, this goes back to the 1980s, right?
	They like to criminalize policy differences with people.
	If they disagree with you, they don't want to just say, well, let's just leave well enough alone.
	And that's the way it is.
	We can agree to disagree.
	I mean, they want to shut you up.
	They want to silence you.
	And in many cases, they would put you behind bars if they could.
	I think the Peter Navarro case is especially upsetting.
	And what they've done with Donald Trump is find every possible way that they can, through every lawsuit that they can, And every friendly, you know, city jury that they could find places like Manhattan to try to put them behind bars.
	And one thing that really bothers me is they've learned that if you can just simply get the jury that you want and the judge that you want and say this or that district in Manhattan, they've got you.
	And that's especially appalling because it shouldn't be determined by basically the ideological biases of the judge and the people on the jury.
	But they really figured out, how do we get this guy?
	How do we get this guy?
	Well, we don't try him in Indianapolis, right?
	We don't try him in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	Let's find a way to get him in Manhattan.
	Let's find a way to get him in this district in D.C.
	If we can get him there, we can throw him behind bars.
	And that's really disconcerting, to say the least.
	Isn't it also doubly hard for us to ever use the descriptor that Reagan used of America as the shining city on a hill, if this is what's happening to those who are the political foes of the establishment Democrat powers?
	I agree totally.
	In fact, one of the things that saddens me the most, and I say this often, is that I don't feel like we're that shining city upon a hill anymore.
	And Reagan and his farewell address, January 10th, 11th, 1989, which was written by Peggy Noonan, it's a beautiful statement.
	And he said something like, and you children out there who are listening right now, if your parents aren't teaching you at the dinner table what it means to be an American, how great the American founding was, right?
	Then nail them on it, right?
	Call them on it.
	But I think probably so many parents today aren't doing that with their kids.
	They don't feel that America was special anymore.
	Now, the people listening to your show here right now, they probably do it with their kids.
	But they're an anomaly.
	They're a minority.
	I think most Americans aren't doing that.
	Our schools aren't doing it.
	And I think most Americans couldn't do it even if they wanted to.
	We have to get back to that place and communicate to all Americans what is special and unique about this country.
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	Professor Kengel, before last week or for, yes, for July 4th, I wrote a piece for AMAC
	and you can read it on my sub stack as well.
	Regarding...
	Oh What was special about the American Revolution?
	I'd like to put the threat to the Republic, the nascent police state, in the context of how America was born.
	And as a historian, I'd like to test this thesis on you.
	And it's not mine, it's come from others, like the great Oz Guinness, that we have to remember it's a bit of a misnomer.
	The American Revolution wasn't a revolution.
	Not in the sense of the Iranian Revolution, the Soviet Revolution, the French Revolution, that wished to destroy everything that came before it with a tabula rasa, deny the values of the prior system, whether it was the monarchy or anything else, the church, use terror, use the guillotine, use the death camps of, you know, Stalin's and Lenin's Russia.
	What we were doing, or the Founding Fathers were doing, was a return to the values of our civilization.
	More a restoration than a revolution.
	And I think it's something that conservatives often miss.
	It wasn't the genius of creating something new on a continent-sized nation, but it was getting right that which Europe had forgotten.
	What do you think of Os Guinness' theory?
	That's exactly right.
	Yeah, it was a restoration, it was a recovery.
	Really, the revolution, right, was the French Revolution.
	In fact, Russell Kirk used to say, which is one of the reasons why Kirk used to say, conservatism really isn't an ideology, it's more of an attitude, right, an understanding of an enduring moral order.
	Really, you can call conservatism a philosophy if you want to, but it's more of that or an attitude, not an ideology, because ideology is for ideologues.
	And he said the ultimate ideologues were the French revolutionists, right?
	I think that's true.
	And the late, great historian, Paul Johnson, who died, I think, just a couple of years ago.
	He wrote a history of the American people, a history of the Jewish people, modern times.
	He said the principal difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution is the American Revolution was a religious event, whereas the French Revolution was an anti-religious event.
	And that understanding shaped the two revolutions from beginning to end.
	And if you look, I mean, America, the symbol was life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in our Declaration of Independence.
	For the French, it starts with the Declaration of the Rights of Man, right?
	Life, liberty, equality, and fraternity.
	And it starts off pretty well, but in the end, the real symbol of the French Revolution becomes the guillotine, right?
	The jacket.
	Tens of thousands of people with their heads literally cut off in Paris between 1793 and 1794.
	And to show how demented our American left is today, one of the most popular left-wing magazines is actually called Jacobin.
	Right.
	I mean, could you imagine?
	Seb, do they think that's cute?
	Do they think that's funny?
	Like, hey, we're the Jacobin.
	Wink, wink, right?
	Jacobin.
	I want to know if their masthead is a guillotine.
	That's all I want to know.
	I mean, truly.
	I've actually seen little kind of memes and little different slogans that they've had.
	Where they have like a little guillotine, right?
	I mean, this isn't cool.
	This isn't avant-garde.
	This isn't something cute.
	This is diabolical.
	The French Revolution was a diabolical evil event.
	And again, completely different from the American Revolution.
	But the American Revolution was about, as Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence, going back to the laws of nature and nature's gods.
	That would be biblical law.
	That would be natural law.
	So Adams, Jefferson, Franklin.
	Adams and Franklin were the guys who picked Jefferson to write the Declaration of Independence.
	They come up with this document.
	1,817 words.
	Congress adds, altogether it had four references to God.
	Jefferson had two in the original.
	The Continental Congress added two.
	God appears in the Declaration four times as lawgiver, creator, supreme judge of the world, and finally, divine providence.
	And in that last line, the Founders commit to one another, right?
	Not only their honor, but their sacred honor.
	Yes.
	So that's what made our revolution completely different from the French Revolution.
	And it's why we're still here with still the same constitution, not our fifth republic or 10th republic, right?
	A constitution that since 1791 has only been amended 27 times, a couple dozen times.
	So what they produced is something for the ages as long as our intrepid progressives today don't continue to read it as a living constitution and find ways to go around it and read into it things that don't exist, like right to privacy, right to abortion.
	So yeah, I'm sorry I'm giving you a long answer, but we were about going back to the basics.
	Rather than reinventing things, which is what the French Revolution was about.
	And to your first point, and I owe Bob Riley, the great author, this observation.
	Conservatives don't have an ideology because conservatives don't need one.
	Because our guidepost is the truth.
	We don't need a prism through which to interpret or pervert the truth and distort reality.
	We follow that which works.
	So I owe Bob Riley a debt of gratitude for that great observation.
	We're talking to Paul Kengor, editor of the American Spectator, spectator.org.
	As usual, this has gone far, far too quickly.
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	God willing, the right thing happens on November 5th.
	President Trump is victorious.
	He comes back as the 47th president in January 20th.
	What needs to be done after that?
	You're an academic as well as an editor-in-chief.
	We need to focus on the Cold War.
	I remember teaching a course in the late 1990s to a group of American students in Europe.
	And it was a story about the Cold War and national security, I mean the course was.
	And I had to explain to them, Paul, at the beginning That Germany was in two halves.
	They didn't know that there was a West Germany and an East Germany.
	What's the most important thing that we need to teach the youth of America when it comes to 1948 to 1989?
	Well, we need to teach them to recover those original American values, right?
	To get back to basics.
	By the way, that podcast Conservative women are usually happy women, right?
	It's liberal women who are angry women.
	And I would say that conservatives too, despite liberals screaming at the top of their lungs at us, calling us haters.
	I mean, you could usually see the hate oozing out of them while we have smiles on our faces and they're projecting onto us how they feel.
	And again, conservatism is an attitude.
	It's about that enduring moral order.
	And it's one of the reasons I think that we are more happy than liberals.
	And there's actual data on this.
	I mean, Peter Schweizer and others have done studies on this.
	Who's the guy from AEI, Brooks?
	He as well has done different studies.
	Conservatives are happier than liberals because we're more in touch with our actual nature.
	The left, on the other hand, is trying to redefine and reinvent everything from whether a life in a womb is a life, to marriage, to even your own gender.
	You'll be happier and better off when you get back to the basics.
	So I think among other things, the next president, if it's Donald Trump, needs to stop the revolution, right?
	Make Easter again.
	Easter Day rather than Transgender Visibility Day, right?
	I love that.
	I think we'll have to popularize that at the convention this week.
	I'll be leaving tomorrow for Milwaukee.
	We've got to stop the revolution, stop the Jacobins.
	No better guide to the stakes involved.
	Then our very good friend, the Editor-in-Chief of the American Spectator, spectator.org.
	Go today and follow Paul at DrPaulKango on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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