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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Who's ready for Biden's "big boy" press conference?

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	Campaigns are talking about the alternative, and the alternative is very clearly, in my view, there's a lot of really amazing Democrats on the bench, but because of the timeline and everything, I think it is clearly Kamala Harris, right?
	So I don't know why there hasn't been kind of an overwhelming Kamala Harris would be a great president and she would be a fierce, amazing campaigner, right?
	Where to begin?
	First things first.
	The correct pronunciation is croissant.
	And have you ever had one that's been made with cookie dough?
	I never thought such a thing could ever exist.
	It is a conflation, a concatenation of European excellence and an American staple.
	And it is not PhD compliant, but I've been a good boy, therefore I'm eating half of one.
	It's sitting beneath my desk right now.
	And I have only one person to blame.
	That evil, evil individual who goes by the name of Eric.
	Eric, let's talk about the important things first.
	Where did you find the cookie dough croissant?
	At the humble little farmer's market that is every Wednesday night, right across the street from our studio.
	You're a dangerous man.
	Sagacious, but dangerous.
	I will finish my cookie dough croissant in the break.
	I will not eat it live on air.
	And next I want to make a mea culpa in front of millions of people.
	I've been trying to work out how to do this with my team because I'm embarrassed and I'm just going to do it with them being in the next room in the production center and me being here.
	I let some F-bombs fly about two years ago in a meeting because I was angry and ever since then my team, some of them, not all of them, some of them think it's okay to use naughty language amongst us.
	It isn't.
	I did wrong.
	Let's not do that again.
	Let's keep some standards here.
	As we prepare for our show, because we can't do it on air, federal communications regulations would mean that we would be fined if we did that.
	But I will say the last time I ever swore was about seven minutes ago when I played the next cut from Jen Psaki.
	And as I share it with you, it's going to be hard for me.
	I'm going to bite my tongue.
	Not to explode with regards to what she says.
	Let's recall who this person is.
	She is, you know, a putative anchor now, but she was the propagandist-in-chief for the Biden regime, and it is a regime.
	She was the White House press secretary until that dolt came along, probably the dumbest press secretary in American history, Corine Jean-Pierre.
	But here we have her predecessor, Jen Psaki.
	Explain... Well, I'll just let you listen, and I want you to understand, this is what all Democrats believe, okay?
	This is the party.
	of all the Jim Crow laws.
	This is the party that prevented for more than a decade women getting the vote in America.
	They're misogynists as well.
	This is the party whose president said, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
	This is the party that says, black Americans are so stupid,
	they don't know how to get IDs.
	They don't know where the DMV is.
	Oh, and by the way, this is the party of the KKK that murdered Abraham Lincoln.
	Yes, Wilkes Booth was a Democrat.
	And the great emancipator, Abraham Lincoln, was the first Republican president.
	A party, the Republican Party, which was created to fight slavery in America, and he gave his life Because he stopped slavery in America.
	And this is the bigoted, racist, misogynist party of today.
	Here's the proof from none other than Jen Psaki.
	This is why I think when she did a couple of interviews after the debate, people were, I was sitting on the set with a bunch of other MSNBC anchors and we were like, everyone's like, that was great.
	It's like, yeah.
	Yeah, that's what she's doing out in the country and nobody is really tracking it.
	It's just that's who she is.
	But there is a character out there.
	There is.
	It's almost like public opinion hasn't caught up with what she is doing out there.
	And also, we live in a country that is sexist and racist.
	Jen Psaki, go to hell.
	Go to the bottom ring of Dante's Inferno.
	How dare you?
	How dare you call the greatest nation which you and your colleagues are trying to destroy racist and sexist?
	Really?
	Which nation fought a civil war in which 600,000 Americans died to stop slavery?
	Let me give you a clue.
	It ain't Somalia.
	It's not Saudi Arabia or any country in the Sahel.
	It's not countries where slavery exists today.
	Which country, oh I don't know, has a vice president who's a female, who's black, who is a diversity hire?
	So we're the racist, sexist country?
	You are the epitome of the Democrat Party because you are the bigots.
	You are the party that says what?
	We don't give a flying fig for legal immigrants who waited in line, found a sponsor, paid their money, did the test, took the oath.
	They can go to hell.
	We're going to let millions of illegals in.
	We're going to give them money, a cell phone, a plane ticket, and then we're going to naturalize them.
	Because we want political power.
	We don't care about legal immigrants.
	As for being sexist, which party's president just nixed Article 9 as if it didn't exist?
	Has a fat, ugly man in an admiral's uniform pretending, like it's blackface, pretending to be a woman in the government.
	Which administration says, by dint of a magical incantation, a hairy man can become a woman and destroy the sporting careers of all the women who got up at 4am for years, went to the swim meets, trained, and then they have to watch him with his tackle out, with his meat and two veg naked in the changing rooms, because he says he's a girl now!
	You always have been the misogynists and the bigots, the racists, the KKK party, the party of Jim Crow, the party that refused for years, filibustered the vote for women in America.
	And you detest real America.
	How dare you, you filth!
	How dare you give an interview in which you call America racist and sexist.
	I will buy your plane ticket right now to Somalia, to Afghanistan.
	Leave today, you harridan, you America hater.
	I don't need you.
	And on November 5th, those who love America, who understand what minorities have been put through for the last three years, what you've done to real women, we get our vengeance.
	The real verdict from those who love America will come for you, Jen Psaki, and all you bigots and misogynists on November 5th.
	All right.
	We have an amazing guest in the third hour from across the Atlantic.
	He's here in DC.
	Sargon of Akkad is his nom de guerre.
	Carl Benjamin.
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	Need titles for that and for Kengor.
	Oh, I need the... Can you just send me the... The, um... Text me the Bannon interview.
	Yeah, one second.
	Kengor... Hang on, first let's do Cassio.
	Oh, okay.
	Three and a half minutes.
	Hi, Keng.
	Uh, Juan.
	Uh-uh-uh-uh.
	First, the Democrats thought black Americans were too ignorant to get IDs.
	Now it's queer Americans.
	Put queer in quotes.
	They really hate you.
	Two, I didn't know Howard Dean was still alive.
	This is hilarious.
	He thinks President Trump was bad for our national security and Biden's really great.
	Shame he didn't scream at the end of the interview.
	Three.
	Bye.
	The best endorsement I have ever heard for Slow Joe Biden.
	Remember Howard Dean?
	What's his endorsement?
	We've had far more disabled people run the country before.
	Seven.
	When the elite gets a smack in the mouth, just watch Mick Jagger's face After he praises Soy Boy Trudeau and the reaction from the Canadian audience.
	Seven.
	From the party that brought you the KKK, Jim Crow and filibustered the vote for women.
	I give you at Jen Psaki... Hold on, that's not 7, is it?
	10.
	10, 10, 10, 10, 10.
	It's 10.
	I don't want 7.
	Alright.
	From the party that gave you the KKK, Jim Crow, and the filibuster, the vote for women, here's at Jen Psaki calling America racist and sexist.
	Go to hell, you bigot.
	And then 12.
	One minute.
	Remember when DHS said Biden being senile was a Russian info op?
	Anyone remember who the Secretary of Homeland Security was then?
	Oh, and put in the back in 2020.
	He's on.
	All right, Matt, thank you for joining us.
	We're talking about your interview with Steve.
	Yeah, pretty incredible, right?
	So he's super fired up.
	All right, that's... Oh, do you have a clip of Steve?
	I have one of him in a t-shirt.
	Personally?
	No.
	I'm sorry.
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	We are outside of the federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut, and you're hosted tonight by federal prisoner number 05635509, formerly Stephen K. Bannon.
	Wow, the last episode for the time being of The War Room with my former White House colleague, Stephen K. Bannon reading out his federal prison number from outside the Danbury, Connecticut prison as he reported to serve his four-month sentence.
	Of course, it is Breitbart.
	It's our good friend Matt Boyle who got an exclusive interview with Stephen after he was incarcerated.
	We'll discuss that next here on America First.
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	So Franco, Nancy Antoinette, don't go anywhere, but first we got to find out about this interview and how he did it with our buddy, the Washington Bureau Chief for the Conservative Powerhouse that is Breitbart.com.
	Greetings, Matt Boyle.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Great to be here.
	Yeah, really remarkable communicating with somebody in federal prison.
	So explain how you did it.
	What was the mechanics of doing an interview with Stephen Bannon in the federal prison?
	Yeah, so you literally have to make an account with a system that the Department of Corrections has online to be able to email back and forth with them.
	And I believe that each prisoner only has a certain number of people that they're allowed to communicate with, right?
	So I'm obviously on that list because I wanted to do an interview with him and I talked to him about it before he went inside and we had established that we were going to do this.
	But once he got in, then, you know, a few days later, I got a thing in the email, like, starting to set up the account, and then afterwards, I have to email back and forth different questions and whatnot, and it's really kind of like a hinky.
	It's not like a regular email system.
	It's not like your Gmail or, you know, your Outlook or something like that.
	It's like a very antiquated system, and they have, like, you know, a limit to the number of characters you can send, apparently.
	They can't open links and whatnot on the inside or videos or anything like that.
	They don't have access to the broader internet or something like that.
	So you're basically using the federal prison services antiquated com system, email system, and you're sending the questions to Steve.
	And I presume they're reading everything that you're communicating.
	It feels like that first off.
	Yeah, no doubt.
	Like, I guarantee you Merrick Island is personally reading every email.
	So, and they make that clear when you sign up for the thing that the, you know, the federal government officials are going to have access to that but.
	As far as I'm concerned, I think these topics are pretty clear and whatnot, and our questions were pretty clear, so I'm not worried about that.
	But the fact is that it feels like emailing on a thing from like 1995 or something, right?
	You're on the AOL messenger system, right?
	It took us a few days of going back and forth, right?
	And there's time delays where stuff has to get Like, uh, you know, I guess it gets approved in the process or whatever.
	So it took us a few days of going back and forth, but we finally got it all.
	Um, and, uh, we published it earlier this week.
	A big question and answer was Steve.
	And I think a couple of the big takeaways, first and foremost, Steve says when he goes inside, when he went inside, he said this a lot on his show, um, that he views this as a bigger than any one person, right?
	Like, so he, he doesn't view himself as a victim at all.
	The way he sees it is what he calls next man up.
	And so if you want to see his full answer about that, he talks about it in the interview
	and that's the first question.
	And he also says, don't waste time writing to me.
	I'm not going to read your letters.
	We've got a country to save.
	So get busy.
	A classic kind of banter statement.
	Don't write to me.
	I'm not going to read it.
	He wants people to go knock on 10 doors for Trump.
	Like he'd rather you do that and spend your time out there fighting to save the republic rather than wasting time writing him things, right?
	Like, and I know that he doesn't want to see visitors and so on and so forth.
	So that's the first big thing.
	But then the second big thing that we really talked about is what we're seeing play out right now on the Democrat side, right?
	Like with the president of the United States.
	And he broke it into what he calls our two separate and distinct crises.
	The first and most important one He says there's a national security crisis here.
	This has the potential to be the greatest cover up in the history of mankind.
	What you have right now is bigger than Watergate, 10 times bigger, a president who clearly does not have the cognitive ability to serve as president of the United States in Joe Biden.
	Clearly, people around him have known this for a long time.
	We see these stories about this Parkinson's specialist neurologist from Walter Reed repeatedly coming to the White House.
	We see these things.
	The pieces are starting to come together.
	The different aids that he has around him, the structure that they built, etc.
	The leaks are pouring out like Niagara Falls out of the administration.
	So the fact is, is that anybody who knew anything, this is all going to come out.
	What did Nancy Pelosi know?
	When did she know it?
	What did Chuck Schumer know?
	And when did he know?
	What did Hakeem Jeffries know?
	And when did he know it?
	What did Jeff Zients, the White House Chief of Staff know?
	When did he know?
	What did Ron Klain, the former White House Chief of Staff know?
	When did he know it?
	Right, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	What did Jill Biden know?
	What did Hunter Biden know?
	Right, et cetera, et cetera.
	Anybody and everybody who knew about any of this and covered it up and withheld this information
	from the American people, the truth is going to come out.
	They can't hide this forever.
	The office of the commander in chief is the most powerful office, again, in the history
	of mankind.
	There's no office like this.
	There's nobody else.
	When the President of the United States speaks, 7 billion people worldwide watch because the President of the United States saying or doing anything has massive global implications for the entire planet, including everybody here at home, but worldwide as well.
	And that's why a big part of the leaks that you're seeing are from the international leaders.
	And that's one of the other things that Steve talks about in this interview.
	Is that these NATO countries that are here, many of them are the ones that are leaking because they know there's something wrong and they know that there's a problem here.
	But then the second crisis that they're facing is a political crisis.
	Hold right there.
	We're going to talk about Steve's analysis of the political crisis.
	As told in your interview with that federal inmate.
	It's up at Breitbart.
	The title is Steve Bannon speaks from behind bars.
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	Coming with five.
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	And so we'll do the political crisis, Matt.
	And then what was the third thing?
	The political crisis side of this is another and separate thing, right?
	So you said it's two separate pieces, right?
	The first is the national security crisis.
	And again, this has the potential to be bigger than Watergate here, because what you have is you have a group of people who literally engaged in a conspiracy, right?
	attain power for themselves and you know steer what amounts to a cadaver
	Around for their own purposes, right good The office of the presidency. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.
	All right Yeah titles for the mono
	Really Jen Psaki Really Jen Psaki
	Really Jen Psaki Really Jen Psaki
	Really, Jen Psaki?
	Go to hell.
	Alright.
	And then for Kangor...
	Kangor, Kangor, Kangor...
	The Soviet, um...
	Soviet tactics of our media?
	No, no, no, no.
	Biden and the Sovietization of American politics.
	All right.
	Politics.
	So we've got Michael Knowles.
	five from with that
	But, and.
	And I might tee up 11 after we get back to Matt.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	70 seconds Matt.
	Did you set that up beforehand that you were going to do that email interview or did you
	do it after he went in?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	No, we did.
	We talked about it before he went in.
	And then once he got in, we had to go through the process and the system.
	Again, it's the government, right?
	So things take a lot longer than you would like them to.
	Right.
	That's why it took about a week to get through.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	Where did Franco go?
	Where did my truck driver go?
	I'm sorry, I'm late.
	.
	We're talking about this kind of idea of pulling him off the ticket and subbing someone else in, Vice President Harris or anyone else.
	You know, their polling doesn't look dramatically different right now either.
	There isn't a magical solution.
	There is not a magic wand that Democrats can wave, put somebody on the ticket who is going to sail to the White House.
	There's going to be, that person's going to face the full brunt of Donald Trump's negativity.
	They're going to face, they're going to be the brunt of paid advertising.
	I mean, there isn't an easy answer here.
	What?
	You mean the candidate is going to face advertising?
	What?
	How?
	You mean the Democrat candidate doesn't just get given the keys to the White House?
	What an outrage!
	That's Kate Bedingfield, who used to work for the Biden administration, saying, oh dear, we're in trouble now.
	Yes, Buttercup, you are in big trouble.
	And that's why we're going to analyze whether you've got a way out with our buddy Matt Boyle in a second.
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	Alright Matt, so let's play one more cut from... maybe you're the insider!
	You're the Washington Bureau Chief.
	I don't get this.
	I don't get his flip on Israel, and I don't get what John Fetterman is doing with this clip.
	Cut 11.
	And of course, this afternoon for this lunch with my caucus later is going to be, of course, it'll be spirited, but I'm going to be very proud to stand with with Joe Biden.
	And I've been saying I'm showing up with brass knuckles and I just want to stand with our president.
	And I think we're going to have some allies in that as well, too.
	And for those that may have a different opinion, they're entitled to that.
	But I'll never understand how we could abandon a great president.
	So Fenerman, Biden all the way.
	Then you've got Clooney, who of course is really Obama.
	This is the second part of your interview with Steve Bannon behind bars in that federal penitentiary.
	It's a real crisis, isn't it Matt?
	And how do they get rid of Biden and then they can't get rid of Kamala, correct?
	Right, they're in a total mess, right?
	Like, politically.
	Isn't this what we've always dreamed of, right?
	I have to kind of pinch myself every now and again to make sure I'm still awake, right?
	Like, this isn't a dream.
	This is what Andrew Breitbart always dreamed of, right?
	Like, this exact moment, the Democrats are ripping each other apart.
	The media is helping light the fire, right?
	Like, I mean, talk about This is what happens when you build a house of cards on lies.
	Of course it's going to collapse.
	The fact is that the chickens are finally coming home to roost here.
	They're finally paying the piper for all these lies.
	By the way, the two crises, while they are separate, they also intersect.
	You know, how they handle their way out of this political crisis, whether they decide to stick with Biden or they decide to go to Kamala Harris or whatever.
	The big thing that Steve is focused on, and again, I think that you can see that in the interview, is this national security crisis, right?
	Again, we have a commander in chief who they all have known is not supposed to be the commander in chief because he's not capable of it.
	This is why what we saw this week, the first big step from Chairman Comer of the Oversight Committee subpoenaing these various White House aides around Joe Biden.
	That is a massive development, right?
	What Comer's doing, he's over the target and he's making the right move first, right?
	And so what we need to do is we need to get to the bottom of everybody, every document, every text message, every email, every communication with this doctor, right?
	Like all of these different things, everything is going to be public.
	If anyone knew, we're going to find out.
	We're going to find out what they knew.
	We're going to find out when they knew it.
	They can't hide this anymore.
	And that's the beauty of this political crisis that we're in right now.
	They have no good options.
	And you heard it from Bedingfield there, right there.
	They know that if they switch to Kamala it's not going to get any better.
	Or if they stick with Biden, it's not going to get any better.
	This is a mess of their own making.
	They have no way out.
	It's like a federal prisoner condemned to death getting to choose between the firing squad and hanging.
	Guess what?
	They're still going to die.
	It doesn't matter.
	We're just going to sit back and watch the Democrats eat each other and eat Joe Biden and just destroy each other.
	I just love this.
	You brought it back to what it really is.
	This is what Andrew Breitbart wished for.
	We're going to keep pinching ourselves.
	We've only got 10 seconds left.
	From your interchange, your exchange with Steve, just a quick word.
	What was his mood like?
	Could you tell?
	He's mission focused.
	He doesn't mind at all.
	He doesn't mind at all that they locked him up.
	Again, next man up is his mentality.
	That's his view.
	Mission focused.
	Next man up.
	It's not about Steve.
	It's about saving the country.
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	Okay, there's going to be, they delay it of course because it's Biden, instead of 5.30 it's going to be 6.30, the big boy press conference.
	That's so creepy.
	Now we're going to talk to the big guy, yeah, the founder, the president of Key City Capital, who's going to tell us is there any saving the American economy and what do you need to do in the meantime.
	Ty Lasseter, CEO and president, welcome back to America First.
	Always good to talk to you, Dr. Gorka.
	Hope you're having a wonderful afternoon.
	Well, it has cooled down a little bit in the swamp.
	It's only in the, you know, the low 90s right now, but we can survive as long as we have that superlative.
	Why didn't they give a Nobel Peace Prize to the inventor of air conditioning?
	That's what I want to know.
	All right, we've got an article from the Wall Street Journal about this shortened trading period before July 4th that led to fresh records, new records, a 23rd week high for the Nasdaq, a 33rd for the S&P 500.
	Explain whether or not this is good news.
	And what this phrase, soft landing, what is the Fed's talk of a soft landing?
	And what does it mean for people who want to have a bit of security in their investments time?
	Yeah, well, I think it's good news overall.
	And what it points to is, unfortunately, rising unemployment a little bit.
	But that just shows that I think they're hitting what they're saying are the inflation numbers that they're wanting to hit.
	In order to start bringing interest rates down, which is the big key, especially in our market in the real estate market.
	But overall, I think it's a good opportunity.
	We're seeing a lot of investors right now.
	A lot of our current investors and our current partners taking chips off the table from the equities market where they can take some of their gains and some of their.
	Upside appreciation that they've earned in the stock market and diversify a little bit.
	And so instead of dipping into their initial investment basis,
	they're able to take earnings off the table and diversify, diversify more into some of the real estate
	and alternative investments that we are offering them.
	And so that way, they're not going into their original investment amounts.
	They're able to leave those chips on the table and keep working with those and take some of the earnings
	out and follow along the old adage of look for diversity
	and diversify into things that are counter-correlated to the market where they're seeing those upside swings
	right now.
	Because once they start dropping, once the Fed starts dropping interest rates,
	I think we're going to see a correction in the equities And it's going to come back down to where around about where it should be.
	And you're not going to have those opportunities to pull earnings out and diversify like you can right now.
	So I think the key is is looking for diversity and pulling earnings off the table, not your basis.
	All right, so that's incredibly smart advice for those who have made a bit of money because of these record highs.
	Then you say, OK, lessons learned.
	Stock market is always volatile.
	So let's put it in something that's far more stable.
	Let's talk about real estate.
	Let's talk about tax deferment.
	And let's understand that despite these records, whatever the Wall Street Journal says, it doesn't mean that suddenly housing is affordable, correct?
	That's absolutely right.
	We're seeing an issue with that across the United States right now.
	In fact, I was talking to a gentleman in Florida this morning that right now you're seeing rent and apartment complexes hit what rent was in a house three years ago.
	And it's just unheard of right now.
	The housing market across the United States is running rampant.
	You've got interest rates that are high.
	You've got a housing crisis in most major metropolitan areas where we're seeing Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies Relocate to and the average home right now is well north of $400,000 and median household income doesn't qualify for even a half of that home price to be able to purchase.
	And so we're seeing quickly move or we're quickly seeing the economy move to a renters market.
	And that is that's the market that we supply a product for.
	And so our investors are able to capitalize On what's going on across the United States in the rental market right now and seeing a huge demand for our product.
	And just explain briefly why Key City Capital, what you offer to investors, the most attractive thing for me is the tax deferment.
	How does that work?
	Yeah, well, I've always said there's four keys to wealth.
	You've got income and savings, and most of our investors do a good job of earning a high income, and most of your listeners fall well within that bucket.
	They do a great job of a high income earning and have built a savings.
	But the next two things that you've got to focus on is investment performance and specifically a tax advantages so that you can retain more of those dollars that you're making.
	And so the investment performance is maximizing your dollars.
	So your dollars are working just as hard as you are to earn those dollars.
	And so our investments really create first a diversification from the traditional equities market, but a long sustainable growth.
	Where our investments really deliver four keys.
	We focus on looking for cash flow and buying real estate assets that deliver cash flow.
	But also we use the equity multiple of leverage.
	With real estate, you're able to use debt and leverage.
	And so your dollars go further than they would when you're buying your entire basis in the equity market with your cash.
	And then we have the tax advantage that passes through to investors.
	And so the earnings that they generate from the real estate and the cash flow have no tax penalty against them.
	They have no tax burden.
	When we go to sell the properties, they've got long-term capital gains, but some depreciation that still offsets some of those earnings.
	And so overall, you earn a much higher and much quicker rate.
	It's just a no-brainer.
	Call them right now.
	Key City Capital, 817-912-1569.
	Go to keycitycapital.com slash Gorka.
	817-912-1569, keycitycapital.com slash Gorka.
	817-912-1569, keycitycapital.com slash GORKA. Thank you, Tyler Asada.
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	No, no intros, no hellos, no how are you's.
	Let's start with Dave, Arizona.
	Question, comment, hit it!
	Uh, happy hand counting.
	No, no, no!
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	Question or comment, I've got three callers to get through.
	Hit it, Dave!
	Remember Nancy Pelosi on October 9th, 2020, she wanted to set up a commission to impeach and remove the president, but she stated very clearly it was not about President Trump.
	So the Democrats always project their moves.
	They've showed us, now they're gaslighting us, but they showed us what they were going to do to President Biden puppet before they stole the election from him.
	October 9th, they sent the article to Mr. G.
	All right, so they're going to get rid of him through the political process.
	We shall see.
	It's very, very hard.
	Thank you, Dave.
	Nancy, Philadelphia, line two.
	Dr. G, a vote for Biden is still a vote for Kamala.
	They want Kamala, the first black, the first female, the first Asian president.
	But question, you know, I keep hearing, oh, you know, she's the ineffective border czar, but isn't she also the ineffective gun czar?
	Yes, correct.
	She's the ineffective everything czar.
	Well, since Hunter Biden, you know, got convicted of gun charges and since illegals are shooting and killing people, and since it was a transgender person in Nashville who slaughtered everybody, you don't hear any more talk about guns.
	Well, of course not, because the biggest terrorist threat to America right now are the transgender killers.
	We know that.
	We've covered it on my Newsmax show, and we have an amazing episode for you this Sunday.
	Do not miss it.
	Thank you, Nancy.
	Let's stay with the ladies.
	Antoinette, it's Thursday.
	You've got 70 seconds.
	Hit it, my dear.
	Bully, bully.
	Great, brilliant job, Dr. G, with Jen Satie.
	Hate that woman.
	Excellent.
	Brilliant.
	I can't, I can barely hear you.
	Are you on speaker?
	I'm sorry.
	I guess I am.
	Um, here we go.
	I'll change.
	Well, no, I thought I was good.
	Put it this way.
	There's two cases at the Supreme Court right now.
	Can you hear me?
	Well, barely, but quickly.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay.
	At the Supreme Court.
	Number one there's a city trying to prosecute and imprison us for those of us that are on the sidewalk as sidewalk counselors in front of the Planned Parenthood and the other one is to defund Planned Parenthood.
	Those cases of In front of the Supreme Court!
	Please, everybody!
	All right, I'm not familiar with the second one.
	Stay on the line.
	Give Jeff the details of the first one that are attacking you, the voice for the voiceless.
	I need to know what that case is before the Supreme Court.
	Thank you, Antoinette.
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	You You
	You you
	Yeah, Virginia is in play And just to remind you that four years ago, Joe Biden won Virginia by 10 points.
	And then we, the next year, were able to win it by two.
	And I think that the fact that we're talking about economic growth and record job growth and Virginia being the stop.
	Top place for business.
	Businesses coming and investing.
	I think that reiterates the fact that Virginians and Americans know what they want.
	They've seen it.
	They want a strong economy.
	They want a strong America.
	And I do believe that Virginia is in play.
	We've just got to go to work to deliver it.
	That is the current governor, the putative conservative governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia, Glenn Youngkin.
	Jeff, what do we do with statements like that?
	I mean, I live in Virginia.
	I'm super excited that some people are saying, it's in play, and a state that went 10% for Biden could be won by President Trump.
	But how careful, how cautious do we need to be with prognostications like that?
	I think it's good because at least it means they're going to have to spend a little bit of money to defend it, the Democrats.
	So you believe, you believe those analyses?
	That, you know, Pennsylvania, Virginia, they're in play?
	I believe Pennsylvania absolutely is.
	What about Virginia?
	Virginia, no, but it could be close.
	At least it's close enough to where they've got to spend some money.
	Maybe you pick up a couple seats that you wouldn't usually.
	Bingo.
	Yeah, absolutely right.
	I'm so excited.
	And, of course, Katie's a part of that.
	She is, of course, the chair of the biggest county in Virginia, over a million voters.
	That is Fairfax County.
	If you want to know what Katie knows, you've got to read her book, Next Gen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it, co-authored with Mike Gonzalez.
	OK.
	Eric, I thought Howard Dean was dead.
	We have clips from Howard Dean.
	Is he still a thing?
	He is still a thing, and as I said in the pre-production meeting, any time and every time I see that man's name pop up in the news, a little smile comes across my face.
	Why?
	Why?
	Do you like him?
	Are you a fan?
	He is the source of one of the OG political memes.
	Back before the word meme was a thing, that infamous RAAH was just one of the great... I always confuse it, Geoff.
	I always confuse him with Tom Cruise jumping on the sofa, but Howard Dean was like the YEE-HAW thing, right?
	Yeah, and that's exactly what ended his campaign, too.
	He was done after that.
	Remind me, because I don't think we have the clip, what was the context?
	He was giving an interview or something?
	No, it was after he won one of the early states in the primaries, and then he just started rattling off all the states they were going to go to, and then he did the big scream, and then he just dropped after that.
	So why is he being interviewed on MSNBC?
	Because they're trying to find someone that's actually still sticking with Biden.
	Oh, OK.
	All right, well, let's play.
	You've got a couple of clips for us here.
	What should we do first?
	Oh, let's build up to the crescendo.
	It didn't quite do a yeehaw, but it's almost that bad.
	The first is, well, I mean, it's like gaslighting 102, talking about the Trump administration, international affairs, and just how gosh darn superb Joe Biden is.
	Cut to.
	List of real achievements, turning around a lot of the damage that Trump did is extraordinary in the last four years.
	And I have no doubt that he, especially on the international scene, where Trump after four years essentially has no experience because he doesn't like experience.
	You know, Biden is the right guy.
	Can you play that as B-roll in the background?
	Jeff, did he just say Joe Biden turned around the four years of President Trump and it was good?
	First things first, who's that host?
	I always forget his name.
	Who's that host, Jeff?
	That's Melber.
	Right, Ari Melber.
	Is his AC not rated for 100 degrees in DC?
	Why is he sweating?
	Yeah, and he's blinking a lot too.
	Yeah, I think it is a little warm there.
	Is MSNBC, do they like have those little fake AC units that don't really drive cold air?
	Maybe they're doing budget cuts like all the other news.
	Oh, what was it?
	What did I just read?
	Who was it?
	CNN.
	CNN.
	100 staffers, right?
	Yeah, and they said that they did it because they were adding something.
	That's the best part.
	Oh, they fired 100 people because what?
	They're buying a new cappuccino machine?
	They're adding some digital company.
	I don't know.
	I forget what it was.
	That's what you usually do when you add on.
	Yeah, right.
	So, did I just... Please, you know, I only speak English English.
	Did he just say Biden successfully reversed the four years of Trump's foreign policy and that's a good thing?
	Like, wars are a good thing?
	Yeah, that was the biggest thing he did.
	He's fixed it on the international stage.
	And he said because Trump doesn't have experience because he doesn't like experience.
	I don't even know what that means.
	All right, it gets better, guys.
	Hold on to your horses.
	This is Mr. Yeehaw on I actually watched this before because we do review all the cuts beforehand unless I roll in at last minute.
	I can't believe he said this.
	So here is the greatest defense, the most non-endorsement, failed endorsement of any candidate you have ever heard in your life.
	Howard Dean on why Joe Biden's the man.
	Is Biden qualified and could he run the country for another four years?
	I think the answer to that is absolutely yes.
	There's not a question in my mind.
	There have been people who have been much more seriously disabled than this and they've been able to run the country.
	He has a great staff.
	Okay, so, so, Wilson was comatose.
	It was Wilson, right, Eric?
	Right?
	Woodrow Wilson.
	So, the Democrat Woodrow Wilson was literally comatose in his bed.
	Nobody knew, and his wife ran the country.
	That's how corrupt the Democrats are.
	He was non-composementis, and his wife ran the country.
	Then we had Roosevelt hide the fact he was in a wheelchair right until the end of World War II.
	But, but Jeff, People who are much more handicapped than Biden is around the country, therefore he's great.
	He's admitting that he's disabled.
	Yes!
	It's the best part of that, yes.
	But you're saying people were much worse off, meaning they were comatose, in the bed, in the White House, and their wife actually was the president, so Biden can do it.
	Well, there's different levels of disabled, that's what he's saying.
	Especially when you're thinking about a president.
	You know, as long as you're low-level disabled to medium, you're okay.
	We're going to post just that last one on my social media, guys.
	Do me one thing today, please.
	If I say pretty, please.
	Will you go to my Twitter account, my Truth Social account, my Facebook, my Instagram?
	Oh, we can't do it on Instagram because it doesn't repost, but please reshare the video of Howard Dean saying there are other presidents who are much more handicapped and that's why you've got to Okay, that's just too good.
	Alright, Seb Gawker, Sebastian Gawker, all the usual places, True Social, Twitter, find the video.
	It might already be up there.
	If not, wait till the end of the show.
	Share it, share it, share it, because it's just too good.
	Alright, let's talk about our side, or those who pretend to be on our side.
	This is, um, how did you find this cut from ABC, Jeff?
	What was the reason for this?
	Greg Kelly played it last night.
	Oh, Greg Kelly.
	That's why it's got the Newsmax chyron.
	Okay, so let's set this up a little bit.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	So, ABC's John Carl does this report back with regards to the 2020 election based upon
	an analysis from the Department of Homeland Security from July of 2020.
	Remember those dates?
	Really important.
	July 2020.
	A report comes out of Department of Homeland Security about the stories that Biden is disabled, right?
	The Howard Dean endorsement.
	He's disabled back in 2020.
	This is a really good find.
	Of course, Greg Kelly, the man, got 12.
	It was meant to be a warning an intelligence bulletin from the Department of Homeland Security alerting local state and federal law enforcement to a Russian scheme to damage Joe Biden's presidential campaign.
	The draft bulletin titled Russia likely to denigrate health of US candidates to influence 2020 election.
	Said intelligence analysts had determined with high confidence that Russia is trying to convince voters that Joe Biden isn't mentally fit to be president.
	As evidenced, the bulletin cites stories by Russian controlled news outlets from September 2019 until May of this year, claiming, without evidence, that Joe Biden's, quote, verbal miscues are symptoms of dementia.
	The Trump campaign's message on Biden's fitness has been similar to the one the bulletin attributes to the Russians.
	ABC, September 2020, quoting a July 2020 report that saying Biden has dementia is a Russian info op.
	Jeff, who's who's the Secretary of Homeland Security July 2020?
	That was Chad Wolf.
	Chad Wolf.
	You mean this guy, Chad Wolf?
	The Trump appointee who came in after General Kelly?
	Yep, and then you see him on Fox all the time talking about how great it was under him and everything that he did to fight for Trump.
	So Trump appointees running the department that said Biden, calling Biden demented is Russian info operations?
	The swamp runs deep.
	All right, I'm serious, Jeff.
	Let's invite him on the show.
	Shall we do that?
	Yes.
	Okay, we're gonna invite Shad Wolf, because maybe, you know, he just didn't control his own department.
	Maybe the Deep State wrote that analysis and he didn't know anything about it.
	But I think you should explain it, don't you, dear listeners?
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	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-STORE.COM I cannot believe that Katherine Herridge just did an hour-long
	interview with Tucker.
	Hmm.
	Thank you.
	She was a real journalist.
	Unbelievable.
	Let's post that in two parts.
	Two parts?
	I thought Howard Dean was dead.
	And then, um, when, uh, Trump's the, no, when, um, remember when DHS said, uh, Joe is senile is a Russian op question mark.
	Peachy.
	Um, let's, let's reach out to Chad Wolf.
	I'm looking for him.
	Trying to see if I have his contacts.
	Let me see if I've got it.
	Oh, Katie probably has it.
	I like how they put it in there without evidence.
	Every time the guy speaks, there's evidence.
	Right, right.
	Anything they say is Russian disinformation now is pretty much true.
	The last five or six years.
	What's Knowles' latest book?
	Still Speechless.
	It is?
	Yeah, I checked.
	It's that and then the... Is that cigars he has next to him?
	Of course.
	Oh, he's not allowed to have the cigars.
	No.
	I have my own brand of cigars.
	We do not... No, good.
	In the two shot, you will not show him in a one shot because we're not promoting his cigars.
	I have my cigars.
	Mike Knowles, get those stinking crap cigars out of the camera focus.
	Thank you.
	I had these waiting for you, Seb.
	My cigars are much better.
	Show him my cigars.
	Eric, show him my cigars.
	Mine is 60 ring gauge Mammoth George Washington Liberty cigars in a Dr. G box.
	You, because you, listen, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm proud of this.
	I am a more diminutive frame.
	I'm a little bit shorter.
	I'm a bit, and you smoke those 90 ring gauge baseball bat cigars.
	So I'm not, listen, I'll, I'd love to try one.
	Oh, see, see how slick he is.
	I'm going to, I'm going to talk to you about gas lighting and everything else.
	Is there something you're focusing on of late that we can, we can also tee up?
	I just believe that it would be an absolute assault on American democracy if the Democrat elites replace the clear choice of Democrat primary voters.
	Stop, stop.
	Alright.
	Is Speechless still your latest book?
	It is, because I'm a very lazy author and have not put out a new book since then.
	It's shocking.
	All right, no worries.
	Okay.
	Good, good, good.
	All right.
	Did you want the montage here, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	How long is it?
	44 seconds.
	Come in with it.
	And then I'll do PhD.
	And then PhD.
	Yep.
	30 seconds.
	Mm-hmm.
	30 seconds.
	Mm-hmm.
	you This wasn't George Clooney.
	But, but, well, what do you mean?
	It just wasn't.
	Come on.
	Well, who do you think it was?
	Matt Damon?
	It was not Matt Damon.
	Who do you think it was?
	It wasn't Julia Roberts-Sether.
	Who do you think it was?
	You can say the name.
	You won't know.
	It's not Voldemort.
	Are you saying you think Barack Obama put him up to this?
	I, I think that Barack Obama has a lot of influence and I, I think that there's, uh, there's a lot there.
	There's a lot there.
	There's a lot there.
	There's a lot there, Willie.
	Did Joe Scarborough just refer to Obama as Voldemort?
	Is that racist?
	And they're not friends anymore?
	I'm shocked!
	How dare they?
	How could that happen?
	We will analyze that with one of the funniest podcasters out there in a moment, a good friend of mine, a guy who has kind of passing good taste in cigars.
	We'll discuss that as well.
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	For a man who has a podcast, it's not good to write a book called Speechless, but it hasn't affected his prolixity.
	He is, of course, from The Daily Wire, the one and only Michael Nulls.
	Seb, excellent to be with you.
	I brought you a gift, which I hope I can give to you through the computer.
	I know you have your own very excellent cigars, and I know that your cigars are about 90 ring gauge.
	They're the size of a baseball bat.
	My Mayflower cigars, available at mayflowercigars.com, they're a little bit smaller ring gauge.
	They're for us mere mortals, but I have a whole box of them here for you.
	So whenever I next see you in person, they're yours.
	All right, well, my cigars are bigger.
	My boxes are bigger.
	We can show you.
	And mine have a better name, because they're named after the G-man, George Washington.
	And I am blown away.
	So you will not remember the name of his cigars in the next 30 seconds, but you will remember the Liberty box of cigars with the George Washington bands, available at SebGorkerStore.com.
	All right, enough with this rank.
	Capitalism!
	Let's talk about the Democrats for a second.
	So, the cackler, Kamala, what's your latest analysis?
	Because, you know, I've had the real experts, the legal scholars, the pollsters.
	I'll have Rich Barris on my Newsmax show on Sunday.
	They can't get rid of Biden unless he wants to go and then they can't jump
	over the diversity hire.
	So the best case scenario is the woman who got less than 3% in the primaries.
	Isn't this just delicious, Michael?
	No Seb, but you've been talking to the experts and you've probably seen all those expert
	polls, which show that now Kamala is not only doing better than Biden, she's doing better
	She would beat Trump.
	Biden would lose to Trump.
	Kamala would beat Trump.
	Never mind that she got about three votes in the 2020 Democrat primary.
	Never mind that she's one of the least likable political figures in the country.
	No, no!
	Never mind that she's worse at forming English sentences than Joe Biden.
	In the throes of senility.
	No, no, she supposedly does better according to the experts.
	Same thing with Hillary Clinton.
	The genius pollsters say Hillary now beats Biden and beats Trump.
	But the thing is, I know for a fact that she doesn't.
	Because while I am not a genius pollster, I remember seven years ago.
	When Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	No, no, no, no.
	Fake news.
	I mean, the New York Times told us that she has a 92% chance of winning.
	On the night of the election, the Huffington Post says 95% chance of winning.
	So, are you telling me that Hillary Clinton didn't win the 2016 election?
	Well, I certainly wouldn't tell Hillary Clinton that.
	She might blow me away.
	I mean, I wouldn't tell Stacey Abrams she lost her election.
	These people are living in a fantasy world with those who think that it's smart to replace Biden.
	Let's talk about those who are loyal to Biden.
	I've got to share this with you.
	I'm sure you've used it already.
	This is weird.
	The internal cleavages and the revolutionaries eating each other.
	This is Chris Matthews who's attacking the anointed one.
	Cut sex!
	Now, who's he going to listen to, Jill or George Clooney?
	I'm telling you, it's personal.
	He's had the elite, and it's so true about the elite.
	He is absolutely right about the elite.
	Look at President Obama.
	He served for eight years loyally, and yet Obama backed Hillary Clinton for president and didn't back him.
	I hear he never even invited him upstairs.
	He had a good reason to be resentful, but he isn't.
	He puts up with it, with the elite.
	It's the elite.
	The elite are taking out a senator of 47 years who became a vice president.
	I hate it when the elites go up against a senator who's a vice president now.
	Doesn't that gall you?
	Those elites, those dastardly elites.
	I'll tell you Seb, I want this to be very clear and you've got a huge audience so I want this message to get out there.
	It would be an attack on American democracy if these party elites were to remove President
	Biden now.
	He is the clear choice of Democrat primary voters.
	It would constitute an insurrection, frankly, if they removed him right now.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let me be clear here.
	We have an extant threat to democracy if Joe Biden is not the candidate for the Democrats.
	I mean, we have to be explicit here.
	This is a threat to democracy if they remove Joe Biden.
	It is.
	It's a January 6th times a billion.
	It is whatever the worst coup d'etat insurrection.
	Yes, it is.
	It is.
	And I'm obviously, I'm like somewhat a little bit joking here, but I'm not totally joking.
	Because if I were a Democrat, very difficult to imagine, but if I were a Democrat, And I were tempted to oust Biden.
	First of all, I would have to recognize it can't be done.
	He's got to give it up willingly or they have to carry him out on a stretcher because that man has the delegates locked up.
	But two, they look around, they say, oh, look at Kamala, look at Gavin Newsom, look at, I don't know, Mayor Pete, look at whoever they think they're going to replace him with.
	I am not convinced that any of them would do better against Trump than Biden will.
	Of course, if the election were held today, And it were even remotely fair, Trump would beat Biden by a lot.
	But I'm still not convinced that any of those other people would do better than Biden.
	Everyone has known that Biden is senile since 2020.
	The DNC had to pretend that he had a recurrence of a childhood stutter to make up for his obvious age-related lapses.
	And now they're all admitting it because it was undeniable after that debate.
	But all of these people could have run in 2020.
	It wasn't that long ago.
	And some of them did run and they lost to Joe Biden.
	So I think that there is no grand plan here.
	There is no secret plan B. I think the Democrats are just up the creek without a paddle.
	We've attempted to give you an example of how the Democrats gaslight you.
	It's not as bad as they do.
	But next we're going to talk about what they're actually doing.
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	Yes, I'll be there Wednesday and Thursday.
	So I think Drew and I are gonna be there.
	What?
	I think it's Tuesday.
	Yeah, we're going.
	DW got a big booth and we're doing it on their dime, which is my favorite way.
	Are you inside the Secret Service cordon?
	I think so, yeah.
	So we had to send all of our gear, you know, a week or two in advance.
	So we'll have a cigar off.
	We'll have a cigar competition.
	Yeah, I know.
	They actually wanted to send cigar girls, like with little, you know, trays to come pass them out.
	They've got to have the trays!
	They've got to have the trays!
	I wish we were there on the same day though.
	I've never done the RNC before.
	So you're not there when I'm there?
	I think it's only...
	What's the point for not being there for the presidential speech on Thursday?
	Oh, of course he's speaking on Thursday.
	Do you have any guesses on who the VP is?
	I was told who he was months ago, which doesn't mean he hasn't changed his mind, but God willing we'll all be able to talk about it next week.
	So you won't be there for Thursday?
	Alright.
	I don't think so.
	I think they're sending us back.
	What a bunch of pikers.
	I know, it's brutal.
	I mean, initially I was just going to fly in and out, same day.
	In fairness, we did just have a kid, our third son, like two weeks ago.
	Fabulous, congratulations.
	Thank you, thank you.
	But Drew's not staying for the speech?
	I guess not.
	I thought what they wanted to do was stack one of us each day, so they probably gave Ben Pride of Place on Thursday.
	Oh, oh, oh, okay.
	Oh, Drew's, okay.
	So he's staying all day Wednesday?
	Oh, no, he's getting in Tuesday night, right?
	Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
	Okay.
	I know, I've got to, I don't know where the best, I've got to find the best cigar bar around whatever that stadium is.
	So how's the mother?
	How's the new Knowles?
	She's doing well.
	The only, you know, there's another C-section, so her recovery, you know, it's a little tricky, but she's doing well.
	But, you know, eldest is Simon, middle is Theodore.
	And the last one, I really wanted to go for Alf.
	I was really pushing hard for Alvin, but I accepted her veto in the operating room, so... So, what is it?
	We went with Anthony, a nice strong Italian name, you know, but we can still do the A on like the Chipmunk shirts, but... Give her my best.
	How's everything going with you guys?
	Good, just returned from a cruise with 400 of my listeners.
	I don't see my wife anymore because she's the chair of Fairfax County GOP, so we see each other in bed of an evening, but yeah.
	Ships in the night.
	Yep, exactly.
	That's great, is she enjoying it?
	You saw my text, Eric, right?
	Yes, I got him.
	We have the montage now if you want it.
	Oh, you do?
	How long is it?
	A minute thirteen.
	A minute thirteen, alright.
	Come in with it.
	Come in with it?
	Okay.
	And then I'm gonna do Mick Jagger as well.
	Alright, forty seconds.
	Should I be seeing Sab in my camera?
	You will.
	You will.
	She's working crazy hours for free because the Republicans don't pay their chairs, unlike the Democrats, but she's saving Virginia.
	Well, that's sort of a thankless job, but it's good that she's doing it.
	I'm glad that he's doing it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	you you
	Who doesn't love a yellow school bus?
	Right?
	Can you raise your hand if you love a yellow school bus?
	Right?
	Here's the thing. Who doesn't love a yellow school bus?
	Right? Can you raise your hand if you love a yellow school bus? Right? Just, there's
	something about the, and most of us, of us went to school on the yellow school bus, right?
	And let me just tell you, I love Gen Z. I don't know.
	I love Gen Z. AI is kind of a fancy thing.
	First of all, it's two letters.
	It means artificial intelligence.
	Community banks.
	So the importance of community banks is they are, as they are called, they're in the community.
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	I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.
	I love Venn diagrams.
	Artificial intelligence is two letters.
	People went to school on school buses.
	And I'm a woman wearing a blue jacket.
	Oh, and don't forget millennials.
	They're great.
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	We're back with Mike Knowles, the author of Speechless from the Daily Wire.
	Sadly, we will not see each other in Milwaukee.
	Maybe I'll see the great galactic master, Andrew Claver, or one of your other colleagues.
	Michael, let's continue with the state of the Democrat Party.
	What is your analysis from the outside?
	My starting point is they have no big brain.
	Okay, they've got vicious SOBs like, you know, Mark Elias and others, but they don't have a Gingrich-level mind inside the building or inside the DNC.
	So right now, it's just the piranhas eating each other.
	Do you concur?
	Yes.
	I think what you're asking me, Seb, is to imagine what could be unburdened by what has been, to quote our eloquent vice president and potential 2024 nominee who would lose all 57 states that Barack Obama once served.
	So they're in big, big trouble.
	Why are they in big trouble?
	How did they allow themselves to get into such big trouble?
	Because they lied to us for years.
	They lied to us now, certainly since about 2019, and they thought they could hide Joe Biden's dementia.
	And they did effectively hide Joe Biden's dementia from a lot of people.
	But Biden's poll numbers continued to fall.
	That's why Biden proposed the debate.
	And I think Biden would have avoided the debate had he been leading in the polls, but he wasn't.
	So he threw out the debate offer.
	But it was a game of chicken because the debate proposal had all of these rules that were supposed to provide an advantage to Biden.
	It was going to ditch the committee on the commission rather on presidential debates.
	It was going to exclude an audience.
	It was going to put the thing on CNN, a hostile network.
	You know, so I think what Biden thought was Trump is going to try to argue over the rules Then we can look like we're willing to debate and he's afraid to debate and we won't actually have to debate.
	And the problem for them is Trump is a political genius.
	I don't mean this in any flattering way.
	I just mean the guy's got a really good gut and he became president.
	He got the top job the first time he really ran for any office.
	So he smelled blood in the water.
	He saw What Biden was doing, and he just accepted the terms of the debate, even though they looked as though they would disadvantage him.
	And I think the Biden team was shocked that he accepted those terms.
	I think they were shocked that the terms actually hurt Biden.
	I think Biden would have done better had there been an audience.
	I think he still has that lizard brain, wrote 50 years of back slapping politics.
	He does better when there are people around.
	No one in the audience.
	He was absolutely homotose.
	And so When the debate aired, it proved that the journalists had been lying, that Democrat PACs had been lying.
	And so I think the reason they're so angry with him right now is not that he hid something from them, it's that he made them look bad.
	He made them look like the liars that they are, and they don't have a backup plan, so it's piranhas all eating each other, as you say.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The sad thing is I don't think our colleague Michael Knowles has ever cruised on a ship with 400 of his listeners to smoke his own brand of cigars as we just did.
	I think we have some evidence of that on the poop deck with Patriots and the George Washington cigar.
	It was a wonderful evening, but maybe we can invite him for the next cruise.
	In the meantime, he might have some cigars.
	Of his own choosing.
	But we're out of time.
	I have them for you.
	I know you do.
	I'm just ribbing you.
	I'll bring a box of mine and I'll leave it at the convention with one of your colleagues and you can leave your box for me and we will have a smoke-off via Skype.
	How about that, Mike?
	Deal?
	That sounds good to me, and especially, Seb, I know you're a very fast smoker, and these are smaller ring gauge mayflies.
	I'll do two at once.
	I'll do two at once.
	Follow him at Michael J. Knowles, the host of the Michael Knowles Show.
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	And I'll leave a box of my cigars for you.
	That's great.
	All right.
	I will bring one too.
	I figured I've got to bring a bunch to Milwaukee.
	You know, it's a, yeah, the RNC, everybody's going to have cigars, but I will, I will leave them for you.
	I'll make sure to leave you my fullest body to blend.
	I'll give you the Gorka blend.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to bring you the slightly, the George Washington's are huge.
	I'll bring you the slightly more Knowles appropriate version.
	I think they're the John Adams, but, but they're just as good, just as good.
	Excellent.
	I can't wait.
	Can I ask, where are you making them?
	It's actually, you won't believe this, this is a guy I met at CPAC, and I'm not joking.
	You have to look it up.
	It's called the Liberty Cigar brand.
	He's got cigars for the Founding Fathers, each a different mix.
	The guy's real name is John Adams.
	I've heard of this guy.
	I don't know him personally.
	He gave me like a handful and I said, okay, thanks.
	And I'm really a creature of habit.
	I just smoke what I smoke.
	I like Olivas, Monty number twos, and I had one of these suckers and it was so good.
	I said to my merch guy, get my name on those cigars and we need them on the website, but I'm following your lead.
	All right, buddy.
	God bless.
	Best to your bride and the newborn.
	All right.
	Thank you, Seb.
	See you later.
	Bye bye.
	Okay, Mike.
	Hey, Bill.
	I'm going to go to the bathroom.
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	All right, an example of somebody who's doing something to take back America, at least his state, is an individual I've met on numerous occasions.
	Thank you to the organizers of something called A Seat at the Table in that state that so many have ridden off.
	It's New Jersey, where President Trump... What was it, Eric?
	How many people rolled up to that event in New Jersey?
	It was stunning, wasn't it?
	They estimated at least 100,000.
	100,000.
	We've had our buddy, Ed Durr, the truck driver on the show numerous occasions.
	Now it's our friend, Bill Spadia.
	Bill, welcome to America First.
	Sebastian, good to talk to you.
	Thanks for having me on.
	How are you?
	Good.
	Before we talk about your campaign and how people can support you, tell us about what's going on in New Jersey and why did 100,000 people in a Democrat state go to listen to my former boss?
	Jersey is becoming Trump country.
	That's what's happening.
	That rally was unbelievable.
	And, of course, the corporate media tried to tear it down.
	Every time they talked about it, they tried to lower the number.
	But, look, we were there.
	Forget about lowering the numbers.
	There were talking heads in the lying legacy media who said the people being interviewed, especially the black people because they are racists, said, oh, oh, those are paid actors, Bill.
	100,000 people, raw, grassroots.
	I had President Trump on my radio show ahead of the rally.
	And it was funny because he said, you know, Bill, we're going to have a tremendous turnout.
	They knew from all the RSVPs and the organizers on the ground.
	He said, but I don't want to give a number because the media is going to knock it down.
	And if we're one short of that number, they're going to beat us up for it.
	Here's what it shows.
	There is a grassroots movement of common sense conservatives.
	They are not just Republicans.
	They're independents.
	They're Democrats.
	And they're sick and tired of all the nonsense.
	They're sick and tired of the sanctuary state for criminal aliens.
	They're sick and tired of bail reform that is a turnstile for criminals in the Garden State.
	And they're sick and tired of Biden inflation.
	They want something different.
	And President Trump is going to be there to deliver.
	You know, there was a poll that came out just a couple weeks ago.
	One had him five points down.
	One had him one point up.
	New Jersey's in play.
	Tell us, what are you hearing from the listeners to your show?
	Is it Democrats who are seeing the light in New Jersey?
	Is it Republicans who just didn't bother to vote because they said my vote doesn't make a difference?
	What is the magic concoction that's changing it and making it a state that's in play?
	Well, I have a unique perspective, Sebastian, because not only am I a radio host with the largest media audience in the state, more than a million people tuning in, what's exciting about it is that it's a third divided, a third Republican, a third Independent, and a third Democrat.
	So I hear it from all sides.
	So not only do I have this show in the morning, but I'm also a candidate for governor.
	So I hear it on the political side, but I also hear it on The social side, the entertainment side, the place where people's guards are down and they're calling to talk about their favorite local pizza place, and we're having a conversation about normal things.
	And I can tell you that as a media host, and in particular on the radio as you know, You're listening most of the time, so I'm listening to people.
	Unlike these politicians and my opponents in the Republican primary who are doing all the talking at people, I'm hearing it all.
	Let me tell you what I'm hearing.
	I'm hearing that the cost of living is too high.
	I'm hearing that the Democratic agenda has sold out America.
	They're sexualizing kids.
	They're confusing kids with gender.
	They're telling kids that they ought to feel bad because their skin color is different than someone else's.
	They're telling kids that they may not actually have been born in the correct body.
	I mean, the insanity from the Democrats has gone so far That I would say it's yes to all of your queries there.
	Number one, Democrats, absolutely.
	They're disaffected.
	I'll give you a quick example.
	In particular, black voters, black Democrats in places like Newark, New Jersey.
	Newark, New Jersey gets more than a billion dollars in funding from the state for their schools, yet nine out of ten kids can't do grade level math.
	It is an absolute civil rights crisis and we are hearing, one of my fastest growing So we're capturing an energy that's out there and a passion that people just want their neighborhood to be fixed.
	These are common sense practical issues.
	It's not ideological.
	that's out there and a passion that people just want their neighborhood to be fixed. These are common sense practical
	issues. It's not ideological. It's personal. All right. We're out of time.
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	But I'm not going to let you go, Bill, before you tell me you raised it.
	Which is the best pizza house in New Jersey?
	Wow.
	You know what?
	I'm going to have to give you a political answer on that.
	I speak to the whole state.
	I'll say this.
	Every town has a great one.
	Wow.
	Is that a political answer or what?
	Or is he just being diplomatic?
	Look, that's as political as I'm going to have to get.
	That's as political.
	It's just pizza.
	It's not the deep state.
	It's not the lobbyists.
	It's just making sure that, you know, there's a lot of great pizza in New Jersey and they don't want to pay the rates of taxation and suffer the inflation that Biden has brought us.
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	New Jersey's had enough.
	and knows who has the biggest cigar.
	He's a good guy.
	but I'm going to do a little bit of a video on this.
	I'm going to show you how to do it.
	Oh, uh, Jagger, right?
	Yeah, Jagger.
	Jagger.
	I'm gonna talk about it with, uh... Jeff.
	The Jester.
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	it.
	So I think I'm pretty knowledgeable in terms of popular culture, media, clips people show, how politics sometimes unnecessarily invades entertainment.
	But Jeff, this next clip, I'd seen this.
	In a very fuzzy version from a distance, looked like somebody in a balcony seat.
	This is the Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger performing in Canada recently.
	You found a much better cut.
	For those who are watching, pay attention to the face of Mick Jagger.
	Jeff, I can't remember a clip like this recently of somebody super famous Who goes stupid political, in this case he's saying, I love Trudeau, I love that soyboy Prime Minister of yours, and getting so booed.
	Am I missing something?
	Does that happen all the time?
	I don't take the reaction from the celebrities usually like this.
	He was shocked.
	Right.
	He just froze up.
	He looked like Biden almost.
	He did, he did.
	But I can't even remember many cases of audiences so instantly saying to the person
	they paid good money right to be there and listen to boo them so religiously. I haven't
	seen in a while. Okay. So good.
	I mean, we love your Mr. Trudeau. I mean, his family's always been such big fans of
	our fans.
	It's like Biden.
	It's like the CNN debate.
	They start booing this woke cretin and he leaves his mouth open.
	It's like the profiles of Biden.
	Isn't that exactly like the CNN debate, Eric?
	Even more so, there's slightly, like, because Baye just had that kind of dazed, like, I don't know where I am.
	Jagger looks confused, like, wait, what?
	That's not what I was supposed to say?
	You like this guy?
	You mean you don't like him?
	And I do?
	I'm confused.
	It's so delicious.
	I know for radio, it may be a little bit problematic, but we've posted the video on my social media accounts.
	Please, Eric and Guy, play it one more time.
	I mean, we love your Mr. Trudeau.
	I mean, his family's always been such big fans of our fans.
	He just doesn't get it, and it's a delight to watch it.
	You can hear it as well.
	All right, dear friends, check it out on my social media, on all the platforms that matter.
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	So welcome to our world.
	Thank you so much.
	It's actually been brilliant being here.
	Everyone's been wonderful.
	Have you been to DC before?
	No, no, never before.
	Wow.
	And so this is my first time and I'm having a great time.
	Good, good, good.
	Well, I wish we had the full three hours or even more to discuss because we always have amazing conversations with you, Carl.
	You hosted me recently in the UK.
	We'll talk about that later.
	But first, for those who missed our prior discussions, you've been on The Manhood Hour, you've been on the show before.
	You probably completely detest taxonomies or categories of political thought for yourself.
	But walk us through your journey.
	And if you had to give yourself a label, Thinking of, you know, Thatcherism and what is the threat to the UK and to the English-speaking world, what has your journey been and how would you describe yourself politically, Carl?
	I was never really very interested in politics growing up and I was well into my 30s before politics started in the sort of Periclean dictum taking an interest in me.
	And I found it invading the spaces that I occupied and so I found myself forced to deal with it.
	And was that the gaming world, or where was that?
	Yeah, yeah, it was the gaming world, yeah.
	And I'd always considered myself quite liberal, just in the sort of spirit.
	In the British sense?
	In the British sense.
	But I was quite soft, liberal.
	You know, I would never... Like I said, I was never really interested in politics.
	I'd actually read about half of Capital when I was in my twenties.
	Half of Capital?
	Yeah, and I found... That's a big bloody book.
	It is, and that's why I didn't get through it.
	I found it profoundly boring, and I wasn't really ready for it, to be honest, at the time.
	But I never called myself socialist, and so I just assumed that, no, I think I'm just a liberal, you know, I'm fairly live and let live, I think, you know, people owning property is a good thing, blah blah blah.
	And then how did politics intrude upon your existence?
	Well, it was identity politics in the form of feminism and then Black Lives Matter that started intruding in the social spaces that I occupied.
	And so I looked at it and thought, well, that's rather against the liberal principles I held.
	And then I did a lot of reading of left-wing ideology.
	And I realized that the left actually has a kind of a kind of hook up on the liberals. The problem that the
	liberals have is that the left are using their own principles and weaponizing them against
	them, going beyond all reasonable limiting points to try and maximize and fully realize the
	most extreme interpretations of liberal principles.
	So give us an example.
	Is it like using tolerance as a weapon of intolerance?
	What kinds of things?
	Oh, 100%.
	I mean, that's Herbert Marcuse's famous dictum.
	No, no.
	We're going to establish the domain of tolerance and then make sure that you're on the outside of it.
	And so you are not included, so you don't get tolerance.
	And so you are dealt with intolerantly and they've somehow flipped the definition of tolerance to be intolerant towards you.
	Another one is freedom.
	Freedom is usually thought of on a personal level to be freedom from the state.
	Freedom from outside interference from the government.
	But the left has decided to expand this definition of freedom to freedom from want.
	Freedom from contingency.
	So anything that might put you in a position where you aren't actually free to choose.
	For example, who are your parents?
	Your parents might say, no, you can't chop off your genitalia.
	You're only 15.
	Of course not.
	Well, that's a violation of the human rights of that child.
	That's infringing on their freedom.
	And so now the concept of freedom can be used to break apart families.
	It can be used to make sure that other people aren't allowed to talk because it impinges on the freedom of someone To believe that they are in fact a two-spirited transgender Demi Wolf or something.
	Right, and then to leverage what the Kamala Harrises and the Bidens say of this world, that that child belongs to all of us.
	Exactly.
	And so the ultimate in freedom, they don't belong to anyone now.
	But also, they can use the concept of freedom for censorship, like I just said.
	If you misgender someone, well, maybe you need to be shut down, maybe you need to be censored, because actually you're impinging on their freedom to be who they feel they truly are, and other such nonsense.
	And so, you can see how from within the Liberals' own principles, the Left has fully metastasized into a powerful revolutionary force.
	And it was after going through all of this, I was like, OK, what do I actually believe?
	And it took me a long time, and I ended up doing a philosophy degree to help myself understand all of this.
	And I realized that I think I would call myself a traditionalist, which, another word... That's an interesting label, traditionalist.
	Yeah, I mean, a lay word for that would be conservative.
	Right.
	Because you're wanting to conserve that which traditionally has been demonstrated to work.
	Exactly.
	But the problem that modern conservatives have is that they're yesterday's liberals.
	And I'm not yesterday's liberal.
	Because the issue that the conservatives have is that they can't help but kind of fall into the patterns.
	Well, you know, I'm not a racist.
	I'm not a homophobe.
	It's like, no, I know you're not.
	But the fact that we're discussing these things is now about a character referendum on you Hang on, this is really interesting.
	So, I'm not sure I get this.
	Today's conservatives are yesterday's liberals, and then what you tacked on after that, that this knee-jerk defensive reaction to everything.
	I'm really intrigued.
	Why is conservative?
	Is it because conservative has successfully become a pejorative term?
	Is that why you reject it?
	No, no, no.
	It's because the traditional values of the English-speaking world have been abstracted into liberalism.
	And so...
	Classical liberalism.
	Classical liberalism.
	Okay.
	And so the English-speaking world was for individual rights, it was for personal freedom.
	I mean, you can go back...
	Whatever the Magna Carta says.
	Yeah, you can literally go back to the Magna Carta and find these principles there, right?
	So this is the tribal values of the English that have been abstracted into liberalism.
	And that's all well and good.
	So when a liberal says, well, aren't you for freedom?
	The conservative says, well, of course I'm for freedom.
	Why would you even ask me that question?
	And then they've got them on the hook.
	Now you're on the train to...
	Two-spirited, double gender, whatever nonsense, you know, the LGBTIQ stuff.
	And so they're on the hook to that.
	And so the left has been well aware of this since the beginning of the 20th century.
	And all through the middle of the 20th century, they spent their time plotting, right, communism as in the proletarian revolution has failed.
	That's not going to happen.
	But we still want communism to come about.
	So what can we do?
	And so what they've done is essentially made sure that all of our civilization is on a kind of train There's only got one direction to go if you're going to go down this road.
	And so at every point the Liberal says, well, OK, I think we can stop here because everyone seems to have all the rights and everyone seems to be free.
	And the Left goes, well, but what about this thing?
	Crank it up, crank it up.
	It's a ratchet that only goes one way.
	It's what Jordan Peterson calls the incremental.
	There's never enough.
	100%.
	And so, like, I was a liberal from the 90s, was very tolerant, very permissive, very open.
	I mean, you know, you remember the 90s as much as anyone.
	But it was very wholesome.
	It wasn't anti-America, it wasn't anti-Britain.
	It was actually very self-confident.
	Think of, like, you know, cool Britannia and stuff like this.
	It was very cool, very good.
	But, so I'm yesterday's liberal from the perspective of being a conservative.
	But the Conservatives of the 80s would have said, well hang on a second, what about some of the wholesomeness of religion, for example, that we've left behind?
	The thing that even Richard Dawkins misses!
	Exactly, perfect example.
	Right, the arch-atheist.
	Perfect example.
	Even Richard Dawkins was like, well hang on a second, there was some good contained in that.
	And again, you can see how he's the previous paradigm, but the ratchet has still kept turning because the liberals have still conceded the ground to the left, because they're like, well yeah, I agree with those principles, that is true.
	And so we've come to the point now where I've thought, right, okay, I am an Englishman and I am a traditionalist.
	So, liberty, individual rights, personal responsibility, hard work, you know, national character.
	These are all things I truly believe in.
	But the abstract ideology of liberalism is not what I believe in.
	All right.
	I don't believe we should get to that.
	We're going to talk about how we break that ratchet.
	I like this label of traditionalist.
	We're talking to Carl Benjamin of the Lotus Edis podcast.
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	All right, come in with Nigel.
	I now call the leader of reform, UK, Nigel Farage.
	Thank you very much indeed.
	We are the new kids on the block.
	We have no experience in this Parliament whatsoever, even though some of us have tried many times over the years previously to get here.
	So we can't judge you from working in this place, but we can judge you From the way the outside world sees you.
	I don't just mean the United Kingdom, I mean the world.
	Because Prime Minister's Questions Time is global box office politics.
	And it's pretty clear to everybody that you act with great neutrality, that you have brought tremendous dignity to the role as Speaker.
	So we absolutely endorse you entirely for this job.
	And it is, I must say, in marked contrast to the little man that was there before you and besmirched the office so dreadfully in doing his best to overturn the biggest democratic result in the history of the country.
	We support you, sir, fully.
	The first words of our buddy Nigel Farage in the Palace of Westminster.
	What's the phrase?
	Third time's a charm.
	How long was Churchill in the wilderness?
	It took, I think, Nigel, eight attempts to become a Member of Parliament and he has succeeded with his Reform Party.
	Before we get into the The further discussion of how we're going to save ourselves from the lunatic left that hates everything about our Judeo-Christian civilization, it would be remiss of me if we didn't discuss what happened just a few days ago in Blighty.
	So I had a confused lady come up to me at an event and say, what about what happened in the UK?
	And I said, it's great!
	And she said, What do you mean?
	The bad guys won!
	And I said, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Labour may have won, but the fake Conservatives were trounced, and in several districts, the good guys, like Nigel, we have a photograph of him walking into Parliament with his buddies, they sent the fake Conservatives packing.
	So should real Conservatives, or as we now say, traditionalists, be happy with the results, Benjamin?
	This is superb.
	You're exactly right to say, no, this was great.
	This is very much like the Empire Strikes Back in the Star Wars trilogy.
	The second act.
	Yeah, it's the second act.
	It's the darkest before the dawn.
	It looks like the enemy is doing great, but the heroes are going to return.
	Because everything is lining up perfectly for Nigel to score big in 2029.
	So just as a quick thing.
	The issue is that the Conservative Party was terrible, completely unrepresentative of the British people.
	Five Prime Ministers in seven years, right?
	Yep.
	Complete failures.
	And they'd had 14 years in total to be complete failures and abject traitors to the country.
	They'd made Britain, England in particular, so much worse than it had ever been.
	It was apparent that, and it was apparent from the polling for the last two years, that the Conservative Party had been a half of what the Labour Party had been polling.
	So no matter what had happened in the next election, they were getting absolutely trounced by the Labour Party.
	And when polled, YouGov did a poll to Labour Party voters and they asked them, why are you voting for the Labour Party?
	48% of them said, just to get the Conservatives out, 5% of them said, because I agree with Labour's values or their policy.
	So most people were using the Labour Party as a tool.
	To punish.
	To punish the Conservatives.
	And what this means, as well, this is not a swing from the Conservatives to Labour.
	Because when Conservative voters are not happy with the Conservative Party, they just stop voting for it.
	Right.
	They don't turn out.
	And we saw this in the fact that there was a massive reduction in just the sheer number of votes, voter turnouts, in this election.
	But also, I mean, Keir Starmer actually got fewer votes than Jeremy Corbyn, the communist-loving... That's stunning.
	Yeah, the traitorous... The former Labour head.
	Yeah, the actual communist, terrorist-loving, anti-British, former leader of the Labour Party.
	Keir Starmer got fewer votes than that man.
	And Keir Starmer is not, obviously, any of those things.
	He's an idiot.
	He is a communist, actually.
	He's a globalist.
	But he's not any of those things.
	And even then, he was actually less popular by the numbers.
	And so what happened is the Conservatives were going to get absolutely smashed either way.
	And so Nigel Farage decided, you know what, because we're actually saying, dump this election.
	We don't normally have summer elections.
	Dump this summer election in everyone's lap and said, right, we've got six weeks, good luck.
	And Nigel Farage pulled off a surprisingly powerful performance.
	In just a matter of weeks.
	Just a matter of weeks.
	So the Labour Party won with, I think it was nine million votes.
	The Conservative Party got something like seven million votes.
	Nigel Farage got four million votes.
	But hang on a second.
	They won with nine.
	There were 17 million that voted for Brexit.
	Yes.
	I mean, this is stunning.
	Yes.
	Isn't it?
	I mean, just the mismatch that you have a government that got less votes by millions than on the issue that Nigel won on to get you out of the EU.
	And they themselves in 2019 adopted as their own.
	Remember Boris came out and said no we're going to get Brexit done.
	The Conservatives took on Brexit as their own mandate.
	Boris said very firmly we're going to get Brexit done.
	Nigel Farage actually stood down his party in the elections, the Brexit party in those elections, to let the Conservatives get a good majority to make a good Good show of it.
	And they didn't.
	They've completely betrayed the spirit of Brexit.
	They've completely betrayed the practicality of Brexit.
	I mean, we still have... Our corporation tax is 25%, whereas Ireland's is 12.5%.
	So it's exactly half of ours.
	And that's not an accident.
	No.
	They're undercutting us.
	We're not being competitive.
	The first thing we should have done is undercut them.
	We should have said, no, we're going to be Singapore on Thames.
	That's actually a good thing.
	And it would be superb for the economic growth of the country.
	Everything would go great.
	Didn't do anything of the sort.
	We've done nothing of the sort.
	The Conservatives have been absolutely atrocious.
	And so Nigel Farage came out and said, look, I'm actually going to make a good go of this.
	And The first-past-the-post system, of course, restricts the number of MPs he got because his vote was dispersed across the country rather than concentrated.
	It wasn't a proportional number of seats to how many votes he got.
	No, but I'm very tired of people whining about that because what this shows is there is a genuine juggernaut of feeling behind Nigel Farage.
	If he can get something like, I don't know, 20% of the vote or whatever it was in the first go, Out of nowhere in six weeks?
	Right.
	Well, where's it going to be in five years?
	Especially if the Conservative Party keep falling apart.
	And so what happened is lots of constituencies that are genuinely quite conservative had their votes split between reforming the Conservatives and therefore went Labour.
	Well, that sounds bad.
	Except nobody wants that.
	Nobody wants Keir Starmer.
	Nobody wants the Labour Party.
	Nobody wants their radical agenda.
	So can Nigel fix the Conservative Party or is reform the new Conservative, traditionalist
	party?
	I would say that reform has to be the new party.
	The Conservative Party, I mean at the moment, it's currently in a deeply emaciated state.
	They lost 250 MPs.
	It was an absolute bloodbath, politically.
	And now they are fighting over the ruins of their own party.
	But they've learned no lessons.
	Because the Tory wets, who are the Liberals in the Conservative Party, who really should be in a different party.
	They should all be in a different party.
	They still have real, absolute control over the party, the inner mechanisms of the party.
	I mean, I actually got kicked out of the Conservative Party Only the other day.
	Myself, Conor Tomlinson and a bunch of others.
	But then the chair of the Conservative Party internal mechanism that does this resigned.
	So as his last act he's just... You're all out of the party.
	But that's interesting, because what would have happened, what's going to happen, is there'll be a leadership election, and we would have voted in the leadership election.
	So what they've done, right, get the good people out of the Conservatives, the right wing out of the Conservatives, to make sure the Tory wets, the Liberals have got full control of the party.
	They're going to elect someone who's quite wet, who's quite Liberal, who's quite limp.
	But that is perfect, because that means, because one thing that you'll notice in British politics, there's a very crowded field on the left.
	You've got the Liberal Democrats, you've got the Scottish National Party, you've got the
	Yeah.
	Greens, you've got the Conservative Party, you've got Labour and a myriad of other small
	little parties like Plague Cymru and things like this.
	You've got lots and lots of left-wing parties but there was only the Conservative Party
	on the right and they just moved to the left.
	And so now the entire right-wing space is open.
	Open for Nigel and his buddies including the good guys at the Lotus Eaters.
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	I was arguing against it, of course.
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	So, tell us about who the Lotus Eaters are.
	Well, we are a traditionalist podcast and entertainment website, where we spend our time reading a lot of books.
	So I have a lot of academics working.
	Because nobody else reads them.
	Well, that's the point.
	Nobody wants to do the hard, boring work of poring through leftist tomes.
	To understand what it is they're trying to do to us and what we can do in response, how we can save ourselves from them.
	Because at the end of the day, whether we like it or not, it has to be done.
	We can't just bullheaded push our way through anymore.
	It's just evident that the left is too strong and they've managed to conscript a vast constituency Using the wizardry that is their own language skills.
	And so one of the core things that we're doing is developing right-wing language skills to understand what it is we can actually sell.
	Because they... When you say language skills, can you unpack that?
	Does that go beyond just narrative skill or is it connected?
	It's the whole thing.
	So, the narratives that they weave, the falsehoods that they promise, and the skill at subverting language, which, as we talked about earlier, the extension of language, these things are all very highly prized on the left.
	Anyone who's good at those can go very far, which is why someone like Herbert Marcuse has gone so far.
	We are a counter to that, and we're doing very, very good work.
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	The dominance of Google, Alphabet, Google AdSense, YouTube.
	Do we have, are these alternative platforms, is what you're doing with your website, Rumble and Elon at Twitter.
	Is it enough?
	Are you optimistic about the playing field or what is your measure of the current situation?
	I'm very glad Rumble exists.
	Very glad.
	Because on most things, YouTube actually isn't too bad.
	You can talk about most subjects, even critiquing and challenging some of the real extreme extents of left-wing ideology.
	You can get away with on YouTube.
	Right, but COVID and elections in America?
	Yeah, the things that really matter.
	Those things that really matter.
	No, you can't say a damn word.
	So thank God for Rumble, and I say that as an atheist.
	Really glad those guys exist.
	Elon Musk taking control of Twitter, even though he renamed it X, is a very good thing.
	Very, very good thing.
	So are you optimistic?
	I am, actually.
	About a playing field for us?
	I am, actually.
	And hopefully when Donald Trump comes back in, the powers that be at Silicon Valley will realise that they can't simply destroy their opponents through brute force.
	Hopefully they will understand that there has to be a pluralism in society, as there ought to be.
	Everyone knows there ought to be.
	And so I'm hoping we're through the worst of the censorship, but of course tomorrow it could all change.
	And don't forget we are less than four months away from an election, so the censorship machinery is ramping up as we speak.
	We're talking to Carl Benjamin.
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	Let's broaden the aperture.
	Let's go beyond the UK.
	Let's go beyond the November election here in America.
	On the way into the studio today, I'm not a big fan of his because in terms of his delivery, he's not a good public speaker.
	But it came up on my algorithm, and I listened to the Cambridge Debating Societies lecture from Peter Thiel.
	Peter Thiel, this genius Silicon Valley guy, had worked with Elon Musk and others, actually sent us some super smart guys to the White House who worked in the National Security Council for us.
	Not the most practical guys, but big brains!
	And he said something which has made me think, and I'd love to get your take.
	He said, Science is dead.
	Technology doesn't work.
	And science is all corrupted.
	The way that they've rigged medical research, what we've seen with COVID, the peer review process that is all, you know, self-congratulatory little clicks.
	He said, he made it clear that Western civilization, in comparison to what it was 100 years ago, is basically a husk, is a shell.
	You talk about the big picture things, the philosophies, the political philosophies of our civilization.
	What diagnosis would you give our civilization right now, beyond what happened in Parliament last week?
	Are we up to the challenge?
	Are the few traditionalists ready?
	You're here at a conference with hundreds of people of that ilk.
	How do you feel, Karl?
	I am optimistic when I get together with people, but when you look, when you take a broad look at the civilization, you do notice that there's a certain sort of Faustian spirit that's been lost, actually.
	And I think this, I don't mean to sound vulgar or crass about this, but there's a certain feminization of the civilization.
	that has been imposed upon us and it's definitely sapped a lot of our masculine vitality.
	One of the few people that you see doing anything interesting at the moment is of course Elon
	Musk with his space program.
	How is it that...
	You mean forward leaning adventurous stuff?
	Yeah colonizing the stars, exploring into space.
	All of that spirit has very much been sapped out of us and now we've got soy boys who are constantly performing harm management and therapeutic techniques to try and make you feel Like, you should be living in a civilization that makes you depressed.
	It's like, no, actually, I think we should change the civilization.
	I think we can actually break through the bonds that are holding us in place that are making us miserable.
	We can actually explore the stars, if we wanted, but for some reason, I think Peter Thiel's bang on the money there, there is a kind of hollowing out of the very nature of what it was we were doing with the Western Project.
	Now, as you know, I was born and raised in the UK to refugees who escaped communist Hungary.
	And back then, you know, the cool Britannia, everybody in my school, 600 kids in our school in West London, only one of them could prove that he was actually English going back a few generations.
	Everybody else was Hungarian, Polish, Irish, Italian, you name it.
	But we were all British.
	We all treated each other as such.
	I like to think, despite what I've heard about people being arrested because they posted the wrong pronouns on Facebook by the local police force in the UK, That the indomitable spirit of the Breton, of the Tommy of World War II, is still out there.
	And I think that kind of is supported by the Brexit vote.
	And that perhaps, and I'm not putting words into your mouth, but I'm trying to test out a thesis, are we waiting for, are we missing the public figures who celebrate that and bring it to the fore?
	Or has it all been feminized?
	No, no, I think you're absolutely correct.
	So the public sphere has been very feminised.
	It's all been very focused around harm reduction.
	But that doesn't mean that the people themselves are happy with this.
	And I can tell you, England feels like it's under an occupation.
	It feels like there's a foreign government, a foreign country that occupies Westminster, that occupies our government.
	And in a way, that's true, I think.
	It's globalism.
	It's the party of the international elite that is taking control of our country and is battering us down and treating the English like second-class citizens in their own country.
	There is two-tier policing in England at the moment.
	The English will be treated far, far worse.
	And just watch one of Tommy's rallies compared to the Black Lives Matter protests, and you'll see it's... You're talking about Tommy Robinson?
	I am.
	You'll see it starkly in your face.
	But he represents the authentic sort of English spirit.
	And his lads come out, you realise, oh, we're not dead yet.
	We're just... It's almost like sort of Disney's Robin Hood, actually.
	Where England's cold and rainy, but one day King Richard will come back.
	All right, so we need some real-life Loxleys, not some fictional ones, although the Disney cartoon version is one of the best, Errol Flynn included.
	We're talking to Carl Benjamin, aka Sargon of Akkad.
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	I don't want to, I didn't want to play a clip back at you of yourself, but you said something really That so resonated with me because I had been saying it for so long, that despite the economy, wars in Europe, wars in the Middle East, the transgender insanity, open borders, millions of illegals, crime rampant, the price of petrol insane, Trump's victory is about honor?
	It's about What he has done for America, would you pray see yourself in that little clip you said about what his victory is really about?
	Yeah, it's really about the conclusion of a story.
	It's about making sure the good guys win and the bad guys lose.
	And we are the good guys in this.
	And there's no, history bears, there's no question of it.
	And he got screwed.
	He got absolutely screwed.
	It was unfair, it was unjust, and everyone could see it.
	Joe Biden has really lived up to the villain arc.
	And the thing is, you can, virtue is self-evident.
	Virtue is effervescent.
	And vice the same.
	Someone who is virtuous looks good and kind and happy and it shines from their face.
	While someone who is vicious looks like they're dying on their feet.
	And rightly so.
	And Trump is going to come back, hopefully, for the third act of the story, and complete the cycle, and hopefully completely rout the enemies.
	I strongly believe that stories represent the cycles of human life, and I think that this is primarily, for me, the reason why it has to be Trump, and I just... I don't have the arguments anymore.
	No, no, no, it's Trump or nothing.
	But the point is also that you don't need the argument.
	This is the argument.
	If there is goodness in the world, he should win.
	100%.
	Because he is a genuine avatar of the American people.
	He genuinely likes them.
	He genuinely looks like them.
	He sounds like them.
	He's loved by them.
	He is their man, representing their interests in one of the worst places in the world, right in the heart of the swamp.
	And there are lots of criticisms of Trump, but a lot of people will say, well, he didn't do this, didn't do that.
	I say, sure, but he wasn't a politician.
	He didn't know what he was coming up against.
	No one did.
	No one knew how they were going to react.
	And they reacted in exactly the kind of way you would expect if you put one half-decent man in a den of cesspool like that.
	And after all the investigations, and I tell you what, I never thought Donald Trump, the billionaire real estate mogul playboy, would be so clean.
	Isn't it stunning?
	It's amazing!
	The whole full force of the FBI, the DOJ, the state of New York, the state of Georgia.
	I would never have put money that there was nothing on him.
	I mean, I would have just assumed, billionaire playboy, he's going to have some corruption in his past.
	Nothing.
	It's like, right, that's interesting.
	I never thought I'd describe Donald Trump as a virtuous man, because of course he was the game show host.
	He was, you know, a lad.
	But good for him.
	And that is really a ringing endorsement of the American public.
	To say, no, your instincts were right, actually.
	Your instincts were right.
	He wasn't a grifter.
	He wasn't taking you for mugs.
	He actually is the real deal.
	And he is a good champion for you.
	And so I'm completely ride or die for Trump at this point.
	I just don't care.
	The arguments have been had.
	This is the story.
	We have to win.
	Hopefully your audience in the UK will see this interview or clips of it as well.
	What would your message be to those in government, outside of government, here as well, who are on the fence, undecided, or have swallowed the he's a nasty man thing?
	What do you say to them?
	If they don't get the arc of the narrative argument.
	It's never too late to do the right thing.
	Nice.
	At any point, you can always just do the right thing, and that in and of itself forgives your previous sins.
	It's easy to be complicit with evil.
	It's easy to be complicit with a corrupt, tyrannical regime that has fear over you, that makes you feel like you're going to lose everything.
	But once you step out of that, you'll realize that you're liberated from this terror.
	You're liberated from the horror of what you've had to do in order to maintain a regime of evil.
	A good regime doesn't need that.
	That is a beautiful thought to end on.
	That it's never too late to do the right thing, and it doesn't matter what sins you have committed in the past.
	You make a crap atheist, Carl Benjamin.
	I get told that a lot.
	Just like Jordan Peterson, you're on the precipice!
	We're gonna nudge you over, and you're gonna join the Judeo-Christian civilization with the full membership!
	In the meantime, keep doing what you do.
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