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June 24, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The strange Snopes reversal on Charlottesville

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	So, you're not going to tell me what to do?
	I'm going to tell you what to do.
	interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues.
	Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues.
	I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.
	Yes.
	If you are here to speak on his behalf, I am willing to have this conversation.
	I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.
	Okay, I'm sorry guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.
	Caroline, thank you very much for your time.
	You are welcome to come back at any point.
	She is welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump and Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next, early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate.
	Our thanks to Caroline.
	That was Caroline Leavitt.
	Spokeswoman for the Trump campaign.
	Eric, what cable news channel was that?
	That was everybody's favorite fake news channel, CNN.
	Who's hosting the debate for the presidents on Thursday?
	What a coincidence, CNN.
	Really interesting.
	All right, I'm going to do something a little bit different here for the opening of the show.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	What you just saw there, that was just North Korea.
	Right?
	Caroline Leavitt is doing what?
	Doing her job.
	Making factual statements about the credentials or lack thereof of everybody on CNN, including the likes of Jake Tapper, who, by the way, was a Democrat staffer.
	Whether it's other cable platforms that hire, oh, I don't know, George Stephanopoulos, press secretary for Bill Clinton, or even Jen Psaki, who was a press secretary for, uh, yes, the current incumbent in the White House.
	And they pretend they're journalists.
	If you dare point that fact out, that it's a hive, an incestuous hive of Democrats, what happens to the interview?
	They shut it down.
	They literally shut the interview down.
	I wonder why they're having a kill switch on the microphones on Thursday.
	All right, let me illustrate something to you that it kind of, it's subtle, it's a little bit tactical, but really it's strategic and it goes to the heart of the matter when it comes to the Conservative movement, not just the news.
	That was of course a kind of Dive straight into the bias of the mainstream lying legacy media.
	There's a woman called Jackie Heinrich who is the senior White House correspondent.
	I'm going to show a series of pictures of her which I will explain and you know go through for our radio listeners as well.
	She is seen in the first picture grinning next to Eric.
	Help out our listeners.
	Who is she standing?
	Who is Jackie Heinrich, Fox News Senior White House Correspondent?
	She's standing with the current resident of the United States, Joe Biden, and his handler, Dr. Jill Biden.
	Does she look anguished?
	Does she look unhappy?
	Does she look like she's forced into that photograph?
	Nah, she looks thrilled to be there, actually.
	Yeah, let's continue with the analysis of her Instagram account this morning.
	This is her at the White House Press Association Correspondents' Dinner recently, laughing uproariously with somebody next to her who is grinning like a Cheshire cat.
	Now, most people in America, because they're normal, have no idea who that man is.
	Eric, do you have any idea who that man is?
	Uh, the handy dandy Instagram tags tell us that that is the second gentleman of the United States.
	You cheated!
	You cheated!
	Okay, I've got the second version of that photograph.
	That lists him as the second gentleman.
	What does that mean, Eric?
	That is the husband of the current vice-resident of the United States, Kamala Harris, Doug Emhoff.
	So Doug Emhoff is sharing a dinner table with Jackie Heinrich of Fox News because they're just pals!
	They're just yucking it up!
	Let's continue.
	The next photograph is of Jackie Heinrich with another pretty woman and a massive dog and they look like they're having fun they're just buds but in the back you can see a little word repeated two and a half times in a little banner if you go to the next photograph you'll find out who is Jackie Heinrich's buddy and their dog walking friend
	Oh, it's somebody called Olivia Beavers.
	Politico reporter covering Congress.
	Good buddies.
	I mean, if you're a fox, you've got to be super chummy and go dog walking with the scum of the earth at Politico.
	I mean, where else would you find your friends?
	Did I give you any more photographs?
	What else did I give you, Eric?
	Oh, now look at this.
	So she's in, the same person, Jackie Heinrich, who didn't react well to some of the comments on her Instagram postings over the weekend, in a vibrant hot pink pantsuit, doing a rather... What's the best word for that, Eric?
	Suggestive pose with a man.
	Very flirtatious pose, yeah, like looking back over her shoulder.
	That's diplomatic.
	Flirtatious.
	A very flirtatious, ooh, kind of, ooh, ah!
	Bending her knees a little bit, looking up, holding her head cocked, looking into the face of a man who's not a husband, because she doesn't have one, and not even her boyfriend, because her boyfriend is not this individual.
	So who is this tall man with dreadlocks?
	Oh, Eugene Daniels.
	Who's Eugene Daniels?
	Do we know?
	Ha!
	He's the author of the Politico playbook!
	Eric, do you know what the Politico playbook is?
	Isn't that kind of like their daily newsletter?
	It's the bible.
	It's the early morning political bible that goes out to all the scumbags in the swamp.
	These are the things you need to talk about.
	Trump, Trump, Russia collusion.
	Trump, Trump, blah, blah, blah.
	Right?
	So, go back to that photograph.
	Eugene Daniels, politico playbook, being fetid?
	Being... It's just unseemly.
	The word is unseemly.
	So here's the bottom line.
	Jackie Henrik is just one person.
	She's now the senior White House correspondent for Fox News.
	But she's emblematic of everything wrong with the conservative movement, or rather the conservative establishment.
	It's an incestuous relationship with the people who hate them.
	Even if it's not incestuous, it's a desire to be loved by them.
	Whether it's the president, Joe Biden, or whether it's the scum at Politico.
	And she doesn't get it.
	Go to her Instagram and read her reaction to the comments from me and hundreds of others who said, why are you grinning like a Cheshire cat, standing next to Joe Biden and the first gentleman and all the scum at Politico?
	Because really you're one of them.
	You may get paid by Fox News, but you're one of them.
	We have to get serious.
	You will never see photographs of me yucking up with Joe Biden, with the scum at the Politico, with CNN, or anyone else.
	Why?
	Because I love this country.
	I don't care if you're a reporter, or a deputy assistant to the president, or a nationally syndicated radio host.
	If you love America, there are certain things you just don't do, Jackie!
	I think the family of the 12-year-old girl raped and murdered in Houston probably think that your photographs with the president are kind of out of taste.
	What do you think?
	Give us a call.
	Yeah, why don't you, Jackie?
	833-33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Man, for a Monday, what a show.
	Oh my gosh, so much to discuss.
	Christina Bob telling us the truth about the elections.
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	Or any normal person.
	No.
	We're connected with the guest.
	Oh good.
	He's already connected.
	Perfect.
	Alright, we need some B-roll of the violence or something.
	Yeah, I didn't see anything about that.
	Oh, it's everywhere.
	It's all over social media.
	You said it was in L.A.?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Alright, mic's on.
	Here we go.
	Yeah.
	Here's a minute worth of video.
	Okay.
	Trying to get this converted quickly.
	Mr. Rose!
	Hang on.
	Sorry, one second.
	You can go ahead and try and talk now again, sir.
	Mr. Rose!
	How are you, boss?
	Good, how we doing?
	I... am a grandfather.
	Whoa!
	As of when?
	As of last Thursday.
	No, last, uh, about a week ago.
	What is the new tribe member's name?
	Her name is Ayala, which is the, it's one of these fancy Israeli names that doesn't have a biblical precedent, meaning female doe or female deer.
	Oh, beautiful.
	And she's absolutely crazy about me.
	Just crazy.
	All right, and where are they?
	Where's the family?
	They're in New York City.
	Fabulous.
	They work for Ken Griffin, by the way, at Citadel, who I think we're gonna turn around, are we not?
	I think all the sane people are gonna get on the train.
	I mean, it'll kill him, but I think he's gonna... I think he'll be a megadonor.
	That's amazing.
	Well, as of Saturday, I have the chance for grandchildren, because my son got engaged.
	Well, congratulations.
	Yeah.
	That's fantastic.
	Super excited.
	Super excited.
	90 seconds.
	That's fantastic.
	What does the potential mother-in-law think?
	That's the big question.
	Oh, no, they're great.
	Yeah, his girlfriend or fiance is amazing.
	The parents are amazing.
	They're super happy.
	That's just... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Great news.
	I mean, you and Katie, that'll be... That'll be just fantastic.
	That's great.
	I'm going to do PhD.
	And then before we go to Tom, I'm going to tee up nine because it's just so much fun.
	Alrighty.
	Nine.
	Do you know this synagogue in LA, Tom?
	Sure.
	Of course.
	Absolutely.
	I lived in that Eco Robertson area.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	It's, uh...
	All right, 30 seconds.
	PhD at the top.
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	All right, before we get to our first guest of the day, I found this clip of Steve Harvey with, what's her name?
	What's that awful woman from The View?
	Oh, Joy Behar.
	And it's just so delicious.
	And it's a sentiment I've held for many years when it comes to those who deny the existence of God.
	Do you believe that only people who are religious are ethical and moral?
	No, I just believe if you don't believe in God, then where's your moral barometer?
	That's just me talking.
	You can believe what you want to believe, but if you're an atheist, you're basing your goodness and morality on what?
	I mean, but what is an atheist?
	I don't really get into that.
	You know what?
	I've talked to people all the time.
	I'm an atheist.
	I just walk away.
	I don't know what to say to you.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	This is someone who doesn't quite believe that there is somebody out there, some God out there.
	Well, then, to me, you're an idiot.
	Okay.
	I'm cool with that.
	I'm probably not the right politically correct thing to say.
	No, no, no.
	But if you don't believe in God, I mean, really, you gotta have an explanation for this.
	You just can't tell me this spun out of a gastrous ball.
	Yeah.
	And then all of a sudden, then we were evolved from monkeys.
	Why we still got monkeys?
	There's too much open here.
	I just believe that.
	And if you don't believe that, then I don't want to talk with you.
	I just love that.
	Look, you look at a strawberry, you look at a newborn babe, and you know, yeah, God, it's real.
	Somebody who knows that as well is my good friend, my former colleague in the White House, former foreign policy advisor to the Vice President, former editor, publisher of the Jerusalem Post, Tom Rose!
	Happy Monday!
	Happy Monday to you.
	It's great to be with you.
	Isn't that a great clip?
	It's, it's... I like your strawberry answer because the likelihood of a strawberry just ex nihilo appearing.
	Think of all the foods we have.
	Just a flower!
	Just pick any flower, Tom.
	Pick any.
	Doesn't have to be an orchid.
	Just a buttercup.
	Oh, it's all an accident.
	It all came from primeval sludge.
	You really have to be a moron.
	Or Joy Behar, who actually makes a...
	Good case for atheism in her own existence.
	All right.
	Well, I've cheered both of us up and hopefully millions of our listeners.
	Let's get serious.
	I didn't realize this.
	You are the perfect guest.
	Let's start with domestic affairs, although it's all international.
	It's all related to what's happening in the Middle East right now.
	We have this footage from outside a synagogue in Los Angeles at the weekend, which is just I don't know.
	I thought it was Gaza when I first looked at it.
	I thought it was the West Bank or something.
	Just the Jew haters running roughshod over the congregants.
	Violence was involved.
	Luckily, nobody was killed.
	I know there was armed security, undercover security there for the synagogue.
	Thank you, Rabbi Barclay, for giving us a heads up on that.
	How is this happening on the streets of America?
	You're familiar with this synagogue, correct Tom?
	I am indeed.
	I used to live in that very area and I've attended that synagogue many times.
	I think the answer to your question is very simple.
	It's happening because the Biden administration and the Department of Justice is allowing it to happen.
	They're not arresting.
	They're not retaining.
	They're not detaining and they're not prosecuting.
	We saw this last week with that great crime fighter Alvin Bragg who's got his finger on the pulse of New York crime.
	When he dropped charges against 31 violent protesters, pro-Hamas, pro-jihad, anti-Semitic protesters at Columbia University who broke into Hamilton Hall, I'm embarrassed to say that's my alma mater, defaced the building, broke windows, all on the On the predicated assumption that they had no provable evidence because all the mobsters, all the rioters were wearing masks.
	Now, you know, God love Albin Bragg.
	He's a great crime fighter.
	He's on the scene.
	But something tells me that this is all politically motivated, and it's deadly dangerous, not simply to the country, but to our allies, to our friends, to our future.
	And it's all domestic politics, and it is sickening, Sebastian.
	And then you get on the flip side, the governor of the state of New York, who says there's too much anti-Semitic violence on the metro, on the subway, so we're going to ban COVID masks.
	I think that's a little bit of a show of desperation.
	If you think you're going to stop Jew hatred by telling people not to cover their faces, I'm not sure that's a winning tactic, Tom.
	I happen to agree with you.
	Back to the Pico-Robertson Synagogue for a moment.
	Yeah.
	And the media doesn't seem to have covered this at all.
	There were all kinds of social media messages designed to call out pro-Hamas, pro-jihad demonstrators to either attack the synagogue or protest.
	As a result, many of the congregants and community members showed up to protect the synagogue.
	Yet what we see in media reportage is that violent pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli forces combated outside This synagogue in West LA, when that wasn't the case at all.
	These people showed up to protect the building that had been threatened with arson, with firebombing, with threat to Jews to prevent them from entering on the Sabbath.
	And the media just... What's so funny here, Sebastian, is that the media, which is now no longer a media, as you've pointed out, All too often on your show, correctly.
	The media is not a fact-seeking media anymore.
	It is an arm of the Democratic political establishment, and it is an accessory to the Democrat National Committee.
	So everything is subjected to their narrative.
	Nothing can be reported as fact that might contradict their narrative.
	And their narrative is that President Biden needs these pro-jihadists who have an equally legitimate claim than the pro-Israel community does to protest We've got a tweet, a statement from our former ambassador to Israel, David Friedman.
	We'll share that with you momentarily.
	We're talking to Tom Rose, former publisher of the Jerusalem Post.
	Follow him at tomroseindy.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	We'll be back with Tom in a moment.
	Make sure you're giving us a follow on all social media so you never miss any of the breaking news.
	Look for me on all the platforms, Seb Gawker, Sebastian Gawker, and then check out my original analysis at my substack, sebastiangawker.substack.com.
	This is America First.
	Here's a basic difference between Trump and the Biden administrations regarding Israel,
	Hezbollah and Iran.
	Trump.
	Would message Hezbollah and Iran that if broader war breaks out with Israel, Iran will be bankrupted and Israel will be fully armed with no limits placed on its defense.
	Biden tells Israel that if war breaks out with Hezbollah and Iran, Israel should not expect the type of US support it received when Iran launched missiles against Israel several months ago.
	That pretty much sums it up.
	I'll read that and then I'll get your reaction.
	I'm gonna tee up at the top.
	Bowman, right?
	Yeah, cut five.
	And then first I'll do my pillow.
	Pillow first and then five.
	So how's the mother?
	How's the baby?
	Everybody's great and I have to thank the PhD weight loss.
	Does that mean next time, next January when you're back in a senior Roll in the White House?
	You can't have that fabulous ice cream sundae dessert that you were famous for at the White House mess?
	It means lots of things.
	What was it called again?
	The Freedom Sundae?
	What was it called?
	Freedom Sundae?
	Freedom Sundae, yeah.
	I don't know.
	And he was, by the way, to the producer, this guy, your boss, was infamous.
	He had one of those every single day.
	You're giving out trade secrets.
	That's not allowed.
	We could discuss that if you are with me in the White House, my friend.
	MMMM.
	Because we need to fix the Middle East.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, we need to fix America.
	If America can't get fixed.
	Yeah, if we fix America, then everything else follows.
	That's correct.
	That's the way to think.
	You're going to the convention?
	Yeah, I'll be at the convention.
	Are you going to be there?
	Yeah.
	Oh, good.
	Good.
	Alright, two minutes.
	Oh, actually... Oh, that TikTok thing would be good as well.
	Oh, for this, yeah, that, oh... Yeah.
	Either one of them, yeah.
	The Bowman one's kind of all over the place, but then ends with Israel, whereas... Yeah, let's do the Bowman thing, actually.
	Yeah, let's do that, because that ties into David's tweet.
	I know there was another cut I saw I didn't get, where he just, like, screams, like, FAPAC.
	Oh, really?
	At the same event?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, because you know APEC's backed his primary challenger.
	Who's, in the last two consecutive polls, is beating him by 17 points.
	That makes sense.
	I think that's what it is.
	Why he's just so enraged and screaming and flailing and everything.
	He knows he's probably gonna lose.
	That's what that is, I think.
	And it's funny, because APEC is a Democrat.
	Basically a Democrat.
	Well, and then Wasserman came out against him.
	Is that right?
	I didn't hear that.
	Oh, yeah.
	She made a public statement last week, trashing Bowman.
	Very interesting.
	Of course, he's running against another liberal.
	So, yeah, whatever.
	Can you adjust the camera, Guy, so that you can see Katie's book?
	His camera, yeah.
	45 seconds.
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	It's not good.
	Not good.
	Well, the mess people will be very disappointed.
	Pillow at the top.
	You said pillow and then cut?
	Yeah, pillow and then I'll tee it up.
	Okay.
	20 seconds.
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	We're back with the great Tom Rose, former publisher of the Jerusalem Post, my former White House colleague during the Trump administration.
	We're talking about the rise of institutionalized antisemitism.
	I'm going to read out Ambassador Friedman's tweet on the situation in the Middle East because there are reports of the war could widen imminently.
	Here's just bizarre footage from the weekend of Jamal Bowman, the congressman who set off that fire alarm to mess with congressional proceedings who after that said
	no babies no innocent people were killed by Hamas on October the 7th
	he is being challenged in a primary race he had a rally with AOC
	and it got rather strange cut 5 the
	the We gonna sell the bull******!
	Bowman!
	We are not going to stand silent while U.S.
	tax dollars kills babies!
	Cease fire now.
	We're not going to stand silent while US taxpayers kill babies, whilst he said there were no Israeli babies killed.
	Very, very disturbing footage.
	Let's put it into the context of the geopolitical situation in the Middle East with these indices of broadening war.
	This is from Ambassador Friedman, who was our ambassador to Israel.
	There's a basic difference between the Trump and Biden administration regarding Israel, Hezbollah and Iran.
	Trump, here's his message.
	He would tell Hezbollah and Iran that if war breaks out with Israel, Iran will be bankrupted and Israel will be fully armed with no limits placed on its defense.
	When it comes to the Biden administration, they will tell Israel that if war breaks out with Hezbollah and Iran, Israel should not expect the type of US support it received when Iran launched missiles against Israel several months ago.
	That pretty much sums it up.
	Hard to disagree with the good ambassador, isn't it, Tom?
	He's right, as always, just as you are.
	The question I would ask of Congressman Bowman, who would have fit quite nicely with the brown-shirt Nazi movement in the early 1930s, would he be calling for a ceasefire if Israel, God forbid, were losing the war?
	No, of course not.
	He'd be smiling.
	This is a and this is all been part and parcel of the Biden administration's desperate and I think ill-fated attempt to win over those who hate him with such a passion because they're so far left.
	What unites Bowman and the far left and the jihadists and the anti-semites and the America haters and the Jew haters, whoever is opposed to the United States, whoever wants to destroy the United States, wants to destroy Israel, these people make allies with.
	At that rally, at that rally, there were chants of Yemen, Yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around."
	What were they referring to?
	They were referring, Sebastian, to the Houthi rebels, this barbarian, ninth-century
	Sunni fanatic Islamist sect that controls parts of western Yemen, who just recently,
	in Pride Month, I might add, crucified 18 men for being gay.
	A month ago, they legalized human slavery.
	These are the people that our far-left progressives are now supporting.
	Whoever hates America, whoever it is, they support.
	That should tell you all you need to know about the enemies we face.
	I've been saying it for a long time here on this show.
	It's not about political parties.
	It's not even Republican versus Democrat or liberal versus conservative.
	The one dividing line is do you love America or do you hate America?
	And if you hate America, you will be supporting those who are trying to destroy God bless you, Tom, and your ever-expanding family.
	Former publisher of the Jerusalem Post, follow him at tomroseindy.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Sir, the monologue and Mr. Rose.
	All right, we're going to go ahead and get started.
	All right, we're going to go ahead and get started.
	Sir, the monologue and Mr. Rose.
	All right, we're going to go ahead and get started.
	Alrighty.
	He sent me something this morning.
	Oh, okay.
	What did he send me?
	He sent me this.
	If you can make a buffer out of this.
	Actually, I'm going to play that cut again of Caroline.
	How long was that?
	It was really short.
	Cut 12.
	That's 47 seconds.
	Yeah.
	Play that again at the... I'll tee it up.
	I'll do Patriot at the top, then I'll tee it up.
	Patriot at the top, then tee it up.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	John will be here in just a moment.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Huh?
	90 seconds.
	Patriot or Taught, then T-O-Y-T-O-U-T.
	Thank you.
	I gotta get on TV with Seth.
	That's okay.
	No problem.
	This is good.
	Thanks, man.
	Appreciate you.
	Bye.
	Okay, bye.
	He's there.
	there.
	He's putting this...
	This is a test.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Well, the two illegals were in court today that raped and murdered that 12-year-old girl in Houston.
	The mother spoke out afterwards.
	It was absolutely heart-wrenching.
	One of them had a DHS ankle monitor on.
	That helped a lot, didn't it?
	Hmm.
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	What's going to happen on Thursday?
	Can we trust the mainstream media?
	That is a rhetorical question.
	Let's talk to somebody who is a real journalist who has built a fact-based news empire.
	It's just thenews.com and he is John Solomon.
	John, happy Monday.
	Happy Monday, good to be with you.
	All right, so I have to play this cut again.
	I've been texting with Caroline Levitt, the spokeswoman for the Trump campaign, because this is one of these rare instances where you see behind the curtain and you see what the mainstream media is truly like.
	She was just pointing out the Democrat background of the hosts on CNN and they shut her down.
	Well, first of all, it takes someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump, to see that Jake Tapper has consistently... Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues.
	Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues.
	I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.
	Yes.
	If you are here to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation.
	I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.
	Now, as for this debate, the expectation for... Okay, I'm sorry guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.
	Caroline, thank you very much for your time.
	You are welcome to come back at any point.
	She is welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next, early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate.
	Our thanks to Caroline.
	So John, as soon as Caroline started to point out the factual background of the likes of Jake Tapper or Jen Psaki, you knew that into their little earpiece, the producer was shouting to the CNN host, Cut to break!
	Get her off the show!
	Get her off the show!
	What does this bode for Thursday and CNN hosting the presidential debate, John?
	There's also something very interesting in the choice of words that the anchor used.
	You're attacking my colleague.
	No, we're not.
	You're pointing out part of his background, right?
	If you pointed out that I worked at the Associated Press, I'm not going to say you're attacking me because I work there.
	There is sort of almost a sophomoric-ness to how afraid, at least that anchor was, in allowing a real conversation about something that a lot of Americans are worried about, that CNN has a bias problem.
	And they don't want to have that conversation.
	So, listen, I think the debate is going to be surprisingly substantive.
	I think all of the lead up will be all this.
	But I think at the end of the day, CNN knows that the only things that matter to the American voter is immigration.
	and the economy and inflation and crime and that they would do great damage to their network
	if they spent a lot of time talking about elitist issues that don't matter and don't
	register with the American electorate right now.
	I think the CNN debate will probably turn out to be pretty substantive just knowing
	the pressure that's on them.
	But you saw twice in a weekend the legacy media's inability to allow any debate about
	itself or allow any dissent from its preferred language.
	Two days before that little episode with Caroline Levin, you saw on MSNBC, Kevin Roberts, the Heritage Foundation president, couldn't even use the term illegal immigrant without getting scolded on air.
	There is an elitism to the medium.
	There is a lack of free speech.
	What is the fix for this?
	In a media that rests solely on the ability to express itself because of the First Amendment,
	somehow today's media have become the arbiters of what's politically correct instead of the
	arbiters of fact.
	And I think these two episodes really accentuate that.
	What is the fix for this?
	In the U.K., they have quangos, they have NGOs, quasi-governmental organizations that
	kind of police the media like Ofcom.
	You sent me this morning this story concerning CNN's Jake Tapper, that he's at the center
	of a defamation lawsuit.
	We're leery of more government to try and fix things.
	Is it just legal action that if the press won't police themselves then you have to sue them?
	You know, I think our founding fathers had a brilliant idea.
	They created a free marketplace because they believed at the end of the day that competition was always going to be the best panacea to what ailed America.
	And they saw that 248 years earlier than this moment.
	But I think the ultimate panacea is not more government, not more regulation.
	That's not going to work, sir.
	If there's defamation and it's provable, the courts are a good place to go.
	But I think the competition, the ability for another news organization to out-factualize the news.
	Anyone who can put facts into the mainstream today and have a sense of neutrality is going to be welcomed in this marketplace where there's all these elitist talking points and there's an us and them.
	And most Americans say, just give us the facts and let us make up our own mind.
	Too much of the legacy media, which used to do that, don't want to do that anymore.
	They feel like they're smarter and better than the American people.
	Competition, I actually think, it's what you're doing every day, what I do, creating a new marketplace where people have better alternatives than the ones that they don't like right now.
	Yep, that's why justthenews.com exists, also 6 o'clock every night on RAV, Just The News and Not Noise.
	So you expect a substantive debate, 90 minutes of substance on Thursday night?
	I do for two reasons.
	One, the American people are demanding it.
	They do not like the state of the country.
	They want to know what these two men, each who've had four years in office, are going to do.
	And I think that pressure is going to keep Jake Tapper and the debate team focused on issues.
	If not, it will be an unmitigated disaster for CNN, which can't afford It's a great point.
	It's a very simple one-to-one.
	You've had four years of Biden.
	history. Americans want answers and if they don't start seeing a substantive
	debate 10-15 minutes in, watch those TV dials turn off pretty quickly.
	They'll be watching the US Olympic trials or something else.
	It's a great point. It's a very simple one-to-one. You've had four years of Biden, you had
	four years of President Trump. It's a very easy comparison.
	Check out the coverage, justnews.com, bookmark it today and follow our good friend at Jay Solomon Reports.
	God bless you, John.
	Next up, your calls don't go anywhere.
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	Okay.
	Video record, so... Um, just gotta get, uh... I think John already put in the teleprompter.
	Oh yeah?
	I think we'll probably try to do it at the top of the hour.
	Yeah, but first we need to do the Casio stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	And I still need titles.
	Alright, um... Jackie Heinrich, I think is the name?
	Yes.
	And the... Collapse of Fox News.
	Mhm.
	Then... For Rose... Yes.
	That's a good title for Rose.
	One minute.
	What is this? Latimer won't get the right to curse in public?
	That's the guy challenging a bowman.
	Oh.
	He's an executive in Westchester County.
	Huh.
	Um, for Tom...
	Mm-hmm.
	Jew hatred and the Democrat Party.
	Solomon, expect a solid debate, a solid presidential debate Thursday.
	And then for Victor, what shall we do for Victor?
	I don't know.
	Thanks for watching!
	Thanks for watching!
	Make sure he gets a special sandwich for himself.
	Aww.
	Yeah, I gotta do something.
	Come here.
	You're gonna hit a pin, dude.
	You know what?
	Watch it.
	Look at him, huh?
	You know what I'm gonna do?
	That is a terrible jack shot.
	That is a terrible jack shot.
	I don't want to sign it for you.
	We're going to make it out of here.
	We're going to add some value.
	Look at this guy now.
	Come here.
	I like that kid.
	President Trump buying a Philly cheesesteak, meeting a boy dressed up as President Trump, and signing a $20 bill just to add a little bit of extra value.
	He doesn't sniff the children's hair like Joe Biden.
	He gives them something of value, a little memento.
	We'll continue the analysis of that amazing event, but let's stay in Pennsylvania.
	Rob, line one.
	Dr. Gorka, how are you?
	Good.
	You've got a suggestion for VP.
	I have a suggestion and I want to know, to the best of my and or your knowledge, has anybody else suggested it?
	Colonel Alan West.
	I think I've heard his name mentioned once or twice.
	Why would you like him?
	Because he's been out of the bloodstream for a while.
	Oh, I know, I know.
	I've seen, besides being a biblical scholar, history scholar, he's a constitutional scholar, true patriot.
	I've seen the man speak for two hours and not use a note.
	Oh yeah.
	He can quote, oh he's just been, he's brilliant.
	I said right now the... Well I think, I think he's out of the running, Rob, because the president said his VP pick will be at the debate on Thursday and I don't think Colonel West will be there, but it's an interesting suggestion.
	Judy, Brooklyn, happy Monday!
	Hi, super duper gorka man.
	Alright, you've got 90 seconds.
	You've got to be quick, my dear.
	Okay, I like your laugh, by the way.
	Listen, I'm proposing to change this misleading name, the Democratic Party.
	There is nothing democratic about this party.
	They should be called the Marxist-Jihadi Demolition Party, because they have demolished everything, our economy, Our security, you know, be it the border or our military, our educational system, American values, everything that's sacred.
	They are the demolition party.
	Hang on, hang on.
	The Marxist Jihadi demolition party.
	You've got to get it right.
	Well, that is true.
	They are the un-American, the anti-American party.
	We just have to defeat them.
	I don't care what we call them.
	We just have to defeat them on November the 5th.
	How do you do that?
	You have to understand what they have become.
	Katie's brand new book with Mike Gonzalez.
	Next Gen Marxism.
	What it is and how to combat it.
	Understand the enemy and what to do about it.
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	How is it not a threat to democracy when you have a prosecutor from the same party as the president waiting seven years to prosecute a political opponent in an election year?
	I'm sorry, I don't... How is it not a threat to democracy when you have a prosecutor of the same political party as the president waiting seven years, the crime happened in 2017, to prosecute in an election year a former president?
	That's a question for the Department of Justice on their timeline and how this moves.
	I can't answer that for you here.
	Why not, Corinne Jean-Pierre?
	Every day you're lecturing us about the threat to democracy if Americans choose President Trump again.
	But you can't react to a very simple question.
	How is it not an actual threat to democracy if a Democrat prosecutor waits seven years, two years beyond the statute of limitations, to prosecute The Republican leader of the opposition.
	Strange how you can't answer that.
	Yesterday I was second fiddle to my muse.
	It's a strange position to be in.
	She has been my backup, my inspiration, as I say, my muse for, well, we've known each other for 29 years.
	It'll be 30 years this October.
	Now, more often than not, I'm in the backseat.
	I'm the supporting cast member, if you will.
	And we were at a political event at the weekend to support a congressional candidate in Virginia, Michael Van Meter.
	And Mike spoke first.
	And then my wife spoke, because she is now, and has been for two months, the chair of the most populous county of the Commonwealth of Virginia for the Republican Party.
	And it's a huge, it's Fairfax County, it's 1.2 million Americans.
	And then I was kind of tail-end Charlie!
	And was asked to make a few comments to the assembled crowd.
	Now, I've done a lot of public speaking, so I'm practiced.
	But I don't want to repeat myself.
	Some people in the event had heard me speak before, and so I just wanted to get to the nub of the issue, what really matters.
	And it goes to a caller we had last week, and I actually mentioned the call.
	I said, if you listen to my radio show, you might have heard a caller last week who waited patiently and then said, It's all about what happened in 1962 and the communist strategy for America that was read onto the congressional record back then.
	I said, OK, well, we know they're communists, but what's the point?
	You wait on the line patiently to say what?
	It's all about communism and the plan for the takeover of America that they read on the floor of Congress 60 years ago.
	Okay, so what?
	And you know me, I don't suffer fools gladly.
	And I don't like to have my time wasted if we're about saving the nation.
	And after the caller made his point about that document that was in fact, you know, read into the congressional record and was a plan for the Communist takeover of America, I asked the caller a very simple question.
	What are you doing to save America?
	Have you volunteered?
	Have you run for office?
	Are you helping on a campaign?
	Are you knocking on doors?
	Working a phone bank?
	Have you volunteered to be an election officer or at least a poll worker?
	Or at the very, very least, are you handing out sample ballots outside the polling station?
	And what was that man's answer?
	No, I haven't done any of that.
	So why are you calling up my radio show to tell me about something that happened 60 years ago?
	You're an irrelevant individual if you're not actually saving the nation.
	I cannot say often enough.
	It's up to you.
	It is up to you.
	Do you like America?
	Do you want to save America?
	Do you think somebody else is going to save it for you?
	Do you just leave it up to President Trump?
	Or Mike Van Meter?
	What's your culpability?
	What's your responsibility?
	Somebody asked me a question in the Q&A about the security of the election.
	We're going to be discussing that in some depth with a woman who can tell you All the gory details of how vulnerable our election still is.
	The president's former attorney, attorney to the RNC, Christina Bobb, will be in studio momentarily.
	And I guess he wasn't paying attention because this lovely man said, so what about them stealing it again?
	He was sitting less than six feet away from where I gave that impromptu speech.
	And I said, What are you doing about it?
	He walked straight into that one.
	Because he wasn't doing anything about it.
	He'd written a check to Mike as a candidate.
	He came to this event to listen to me, Mike and Katie.
	But he wasn't actually doing anything to save America.
	About an hour later, as we were leaving, he and his wife came up to me and he said, and I quote, you know, verbatim, Thank you for that gentle kick in the backside.
	And he said, I'm probably going to ruin my summer, but I'm going to volunteer.
	You know me.
	I couldn't leave it at that.
	I said, Ruin your summer?
	Isn't America worth it?
	He said, yes, it's worth it.
	Well, God bless him for having a sense of humor and for making the right decision.
	But it kind of stuns me how I have to say this again and again and again to audiences who are on my side, who are conservatives, who are republicans, who are patriots.
	It's four months.
	What are you going to do in those four months?
	Are you going to work on a campaign?
	Virginia is now in play.
	The RNC is deploying 27 people to just Northern Virginia as staff because it's in play.
	Just to the Fairfax County offices where my wife works.
	That's huge!
	For 20 years it was written off.
	Just forget about Fairfax, it's a piggy bank.
	Take the money, take the donations and spend them elsewhere in Southern Virginia.
	Pennsylvania's in play!
	And what are you doing about it?
	If your only commitment to the salvaging of our republic is 15 minutes at the polling station when you vote on November the 5th, you're not a serious American.
	You're not a patriot.
	Or you simply don't understand the stakes involved.
	If they only achieve a fraction of that which they have openly said they wish to do, lower the voting age to 16.
	They did that in Germany for the last election.
	It bit them on the backside because the youth voted for the conservatives two weeks ago.
	But if it happens here in America, if they redistrict America.
	And if they amnesty 40 million illegals and pack the Supreme Court, it's over.
	We are finished.
	We're done.
	And they've said all of those things publicly.
	So, in the next four months, what are you going to do?
	If you're not running for local office, if you're not running for the local school board, volunteer now.
	You can operate phone banks from home to support candidates all over the country.
	My wife and her team wrote 18,000 postcards by hand to Catholics in Virginia to get out the vote.
	Oh, and most important of all, forget about your Democrat neighbors and relatives.
	Find, right now, five soft Republicans.
	Squishers, or people who don't bother to vote.
	Your cousin, your mother-in-law, your neighbor.
	And talk to them and ask them the one question Reagan gave us.
	Are you better off than you were four years ago?
	It's rhetorical.
	It's Socratic.
	Sow the seed and make sure that they vote as well.
	If not you, then who?
	If not now, then when?
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	Crank that up, Alex.
	It's a classic.
	Gets you in the right mood, doesn't it?
	Thank you.
	Bumper music isn't designed to get the host in the right mood.
	So says my boss, and he's right.
	Thank you, Phil.
	All right.
	Have you... I doubt it.
	If you're listening to this show, you're not a person who gives up easily.
	Because, you know, patriots don't do that.
	But what about being your former Svelte self?
	Have you given up on that and you're just carrying around a bit of excess luggage, if you know what I mean?
	If that's the case, I can relate for about 20 years.
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	Will they stop counting and magically things will change six hours later?
	Well, President Trump had something to say about that.
	Let's listen to his advice cut for.
	And we have to get out there.
	We have to vote.
	We have to make sure everything's honest.
	And you keep your eyes open.
	You know, you're, you're the police in a way.
	You can be, you can police your vote.
	A lot of people don't know that.
	Just make sure that vote counts.
	We have to make sure it counts.
	You can police your own vote, make sure it counts.
	That was at the weekend of the Faith and Freedom Summit here in D.C.
	No better person to analyze what it means for you to take responsibility for the security of the election than the president's former attorney, former JAG, former marine major, the author of the seminal work, Stealing Your Vote, the inside story of the 2020 election and what it means for 2024.
	Christina Barb, welcome back in studio.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	So I made the point I've got on my high horse for the opening of the hour and I just kind of went all kind.
	It's up to you.
	The election isn't something that lasts 15 minutes every two years.
	If you care about America if you care about the integrity of the election.
	You have to be involved.
	When somebody says, oh, I don't know what that means, what do you say to them?
	Because you're on the ground fighting this stuff.
	That's absolutely true, though.
	I think as conservatives, we got very comfortable not being involved.
	We run businesses, run families, you know, go to church, mind our own business, didn't want to get involved in politics.
	And well, now we're in a position where we can't do that anymore.
	We have to pay attention.
	You're exactly right.
	And it depends on the individual's ability.
	Are you able to go places or do you have to stay at home?
	Because if you have to stay at home, you're going to be limited.
	And I would recommend getting involved in a grassroots group in your area, maybe to scrub voter rolls or do things that you can do from your own home.
	But if you're mobile and able to leave the house and be involved, please sign up with your county.
	You can go to your county GOP.
	You can go to RNC's website at protectthevote.com.
	But really, it comes down to local involvement at your counties.
	Get involved at the county level, whether it's with your county GOP or become a worker through your county.
	Sign up to actually work for your county.
	Get involved at your county level.
	ProtectTheVote.com, start there and also follow Christina at Christina underscore Bob.
	Let's talk about this, you mentioned the voter rolls.
	Right.
	So we played, there's an amazing legal institution out there that sent us a video we used on this show and my Newsmax show of one of their employees going to registered voter addresses in Nevada.
	And they included a 7-Eleven, a casino, a bar, a police station, and an empty lot.
	I mean, that's just, that's a recipe.
	That happens for a reason.
	How did we get there?
	And what do we do about it?
	Well, we got there because we weren't paying attention, and we didn't have people in government positions who were actually paying attention, looking, confirming, who cared to do a normal scrub of the voter roll the way anybody, any business who's managing their books, you're going to make sure your books, you know, account for each other.
	And our election workers haven't been doing that.
	So we took our eye off the ball.
	As a result of that, there were some bad actors that got in and have been able to really muddy the waters on voter rolls.
	I mean, Wisconsin, I think, is the quintessential example of they have approximately 3.5 million voters over the age of 18 and close to 7 million voters on the rolls.
	Now, almost double the number of the population that's able to vote.
	And some of them will say, some of the officials will say, oh, oh, oh, but I half of them are inactive, you know, they're not all
	eligible to vote, but we know from the 2020 election that inactive voters voted.
	So just labeling them as inactive doesn't stop them from voting.
	So voter, cleaning up voter rolls is a huge deal.
	It's a big business at the moment as far as, you know, fights between the left and the
	right is the left will say, oh, they're trying to remove legal votes.
	They're trying to suppress the vote.
	No, we're trying to clean up the rolls to make sure only lawful people are voting.
	But yeah, I mean, that's the fight at the moment.
	When you were at OAN and then working for the president, you saw what was happening
	across America.
	You wrote the book on the last election.
	I have a theory that a lot of people obsess about one thing.
	Oh, it was the machines or something else.
	My take is they've been doing this since at least Joe Kennedy stole the election for JFK against Nixon in 1960.
	And a lot of it is just cultural.
	They know how to ballot vote.
	They know how to go to the old people's home, fake the signatures.
	It's old school.
	Am I onto something?
	Is it mostly old school?
	I think so.
	I mean, that's the stuff that we can demonstrate at this point.
	I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that occurred that we can't demonstrate yet.
	But yeah, I mean, again, in Wisconsin, you have 100% of nursing home residents voted.
	100%.
	The people who are like lying there comatose voted.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	100% of those ballots were collected and cast, and so clearly not all of them should have been allowed to vote.
	People in hospice voted.
	So, yeah, to your point, yes, that's old-school ballot stuffing.
	Go collect someone else's ballot and cast it on their behalf.
	Yeah, I think there was a lot of that.
	And that goes back to President Trump's point of police your own location, you know, police your own precinct, police your own county.
	It's easier at precinct levels because they're smaller.
	As you get into these big county, large Consolidated tabulation centers, it's a little bit harder.
	You know, the Atlanta's, Philadelphia's, Milwaukee, Phoenix, they've moved to centralize the count which makes it a lot harder to spot irregularities.
	So they're doing what they can to muddy the water but it's so important that the American people are involved in their local community, paying attention, trying to clean up the vote.
	Who was responsible for what happened in the last election?
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	And your daughter's married?
	No, she's in San Francisco and hopefully coming back east when she's got like a thousand hours
	left of, she's becoming a family therapist so she has to do clinical work.
	Oh, good for her!
	Oh, that's great.
	I think that's a great profession.
	Yeah, she's a people person.
	For the people who aren't woke, like the legitimate ones, not the crazy ones that come up with all kinds of weird theories.
	Yeah.
	Awesome, wow, you've raised some good kids.
	Yeah, we've been blessed.
	Three minutes.
	I might use seven again in the D block.
	Here I'll just do my pillow at the top.
	Okay.
	I want you to expand upon the they stole it, GOP covered it up.
	Yeah, happy to do it.
	It's such a great summary.
	Oh, can you play me cut three, please, Eric?
	Three?
	This week?
	Twelve-year-old Jocelyn Nunguri found strangled to death and dumped in a creek in Houston, allegedly murdered by two recent illegal border crossers from Venezuela.
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	These monsters should never have been in our country, and if I were president, they would not have been in our country.
	We had a strong border.
	We had strong protection.
	Come in with that.
	Come in with three, okay?
	And then pillow.
	Show me cut two.
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	No tax on tips.
	Yeah!
	We love that one.
	Is that the same place where he was with the kid?
	Do we know?
	I believe so.
	It looks like it.
	Yeah, it does.
	He just needs to drive that point home at the debate.
	That's a really popular position.
	Yeah, the tips thing is popular.
	Especially in Nevada.
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	stealing your vote.
	Christina, Bob, you summarized the message of the book with an incredibly trenchant sentence.
	The Democrats stole the election, the GOP covered it up.
	Can you expand on that?
	Because a lot of what I saw was ignorance in terms of lawmakers in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, but it's more than that, isn't it?
	It is, and I think that is also part of it.
	But if we just remember back to 2020 at the time, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin all had Republican legislatures, and they were all Republican-majority states.
	This is the most outrageous thing about 2020.
	Yeah, they were Republican states.
	They were very clearly Republican states.
	Wisconsin even has, still currently, has a super majority in its Senate.
	I mean, they're very red states with just a few key roles.
	Which is important because the Constitution is clear, even for a presidential election, the state runs the election.
	Yes.
	You can't just have a governor say, oh, no signature verification, and then the legislature says, oh, okay.
	Yeah, well, that's what they did in 2020.
	And so that, I think, goes to some of the ignorance.
	Maybe they weren't prepared for it or weren't expecting it.
	And I get that.
	I don't think any of us were really prepared for COVID or what came in the election.
	However, they didn't push back on it.
	From when I went and met with them, I think the reaction was not so much of, hey, we have to get to the bottom of what happened to 2020 and correct it and make sure that our country is going in the right direction.
	It was more of a, I don't want anybody looking at me, so I move on.
	Yes.
	And so they really tried to push past it and cover it up and say, no, no, no, there's nothing to see here.
	It's fine.
	And they covered it up because they didn't want to be exposed for their failures.
	And they had some significant failures.
	And so they worked to cover it up.
	All right, so you've just been interviewed by my lovely wife and her colleague on her podcast, the Happy Women podcast.
	So I'm cheating here.
	I've got a cheat sheet.
	So what should I ask Christina?
	And she just texted me back.
	What did you see in the Maricopa audit?
	Oh, the audit itself was really interesting for a number of reasons.
	The left hated it.
	They absolutely hated it.
	Why would you hate an audit?
	That's like if you're having your books at a company audited.
	Who would hate that?
	The amount of vitriol that Descended on Arizona as far as, don't do it, you know, you're disenfranchising voters and the type of hyperbole and propaganda that came out of it was bizarre, in my opinion.
	Disenfranchising voters after the election by doing an audit?
	Yes, and you're racist.
	I mean, that's what the lawsuit was.
	I mean, there were several lawsuits, but the main lawsuit that ultimately decided whether the Arizona audit could go forward was the DNC suing the auditors and the Arizona Senate and a group of Republicans saying that they were disenfranchising people and that they were racist.
	I mean, that was the crux of the lawsuit.
	Well, of course, the Senate and the auditors won that argument, and so the audit went forward.
	But it was just really odd to me.
	And the judge in that case actually said, OK, if you have evidence to believe that they are disenfranchising voters and you believe that this is a racially targeted transaction, OK, I'll stay the audit, the judge says to the DNC, or the Democrat Party of Arizona.
	I'll stay the audit, meaning it cannot go forward until the hearing, you know, the following week.
	But you have to produce evidence saying that they're actually doing something racist.
	But the catch is, you have to post a million dollar bond.
	And if you can't actually produce evidence of racist activity, your million dollars goes to the auditor.
	He did a great job, right?
	Well, do you think they posted the bond?
	No.
	They knew that they didn't have any evidence of racial, uh, you know, any racist action.
	Reminds me of the million dollars the FBI offered Christopher Steele for, can you substantiate the lies about President Trump in the Russian dossier that we got from you anyway and that we paid for you?
	And it's weird.
	Christopher Steele couldn't collect the million dollars because he couldn't prove anything.
	How interesting.
	What a parallel.
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	I'm sorry, I don't... How is it not a threat to democracy when you have a prosecutor of the same political party as the president waiting seven years, the crime happened in 2017, to prosecute in an election year a former president?
	That's a question for the Department of Justice on their timeline and how this moves.
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	Christina, how... Oh, let me ask the question I was chatting with you about a couple of breaks back.
	What do you think November the 5th is going to be like?
	Are we going to have... Oh, we're pausing the counting in the battleground states and then magically eight hours later the polls reverse.
	How soon are we going to know the results of the election on November 5th?
	My personal opinion, which is probably not the majority, but my personal opinion is that we will have a decisive victory on election night for Donald Trump.
	Because it's just so big.
	What is it Hewitt says?
	Too big to rig.
	Too big to rig, right?
	I think that's part of it.
	I think there's going to be a bumpy road between now and then.
	Because of things we can't predict.
	Right.
	The lawfare and the various things that we've seen the left throw at us to try to create chaos.
	And I think that's going to push people right.
	and I think Donald Trump is going to win in a relative landslide. I think we get those results
	on election night. If we don't get the results on election night, I think, I mean, at that point,
	you know what happens, right? We've seen this movie before, you know, they delay the vote,
	they find more ballots and conservatives don't have the ability to challenge post-election.
	How much harder is it for them to do what they did?
	Because now Lara's at the RNC.
	Right.
	Well, I think it's a lot harder for them to do what they did because what they did was so crazy, they already fired that shot.
	Because of COVID and all the violence.
	They had COVID and they turned all of these dictators in Republican states, I'm sorry, these governors, that actually was a slip.
	That was good, that was good.
	Did you catch that?
	They turned them into dictators and just rewrote the law from the governor's mansion without the legislature.
	So they did a lot of crazy things in 2020 that they're not going to be able to replicate in 2024.
	It doesn't mean they're not going to try.
	It doesn't mean that they're not going to pull out all the punches and do everything they can to create chaos and confusion and try to keep you from the polls and all of the things that we saw.
	But I think it will be very hard for them to replicate What about the most obviously shocking and outrageous is, you know, the likes of Mark Zuckerberg dropping half a billion dollars to literally privatize the election, drop boxes in predominantly Democrat districts.
	Have we inoculated ourselves against that or is this just going to happen in Democrat states?
	Well, I think several states have passed laws saying you can't do that, which is good.
	It doesn't mean the left doesn't come up with creative alternatives.
	So I don't think they're going to go, ah, shucks, we can't do it this year and sit this one out.
	I think they're going to find some other creative... Because Mark Elias is still around.
	Right.
	He still exists.
	He's still working.
	Arabella Associates, still around.
	Right.
	Still doing their thing.
	They're all still doing their thing, right?
	The good news is we have more people on our side engaged.
	We have organizations that we didn't have in 2020.
	You know, America First Legal is a really great example.
	They're great patriots doing a lot of fighting.
	They didn't exist at the time.
	And there's several groups like that.
	So the limit.
	Do we have a capacity to be there to play defense before something happens?
	Because the idea that we sent attorneys after the election, they were locked out, they put cardboard up on the windows, that's kind of like, okay, the battle has been lost and like it's a rearguard action.
	Do we have a bench that's going to be out there now?
	Well, that's the goal.
	That's what we're trying to do.
	If you're an attorney and you want to get involved, you can go to protectthevote.com, sign up to volunteer in your area.
	So that's the goal, and it depends on how many people get involved and are willing to sign up.
	From her experience in the last two months, my wife who's now the chair of the county, the Fairfax GOP, she's really excited by what she's seeing.
	From Lara, the RNC, and not just that, from ethnic community members who weren't political and who are volunteering saying this is nuts, the LGBTQ blah blah blah, the anti-semitism, who are just volunteering in numbers that we didn't have in 2020.
	No, that's exactly right.
	And Katie's great.
	Virginia is such an important state, and to be in a position like that, I'm thrilled that she's there, and the information that we're exchanging is very encouraging.
	So, are you optimistic when we hear things like, Pennsylvania is in play, Virginia is in play?
	Are these things even possible?
	Oh yeah, 100%.
	Yeah, I think, absolutely.
	The big unknown is what happens between now and then.
	What kind of crazy antics are they going to throw to throw us off?
	Because if things keep going the way they're going, I think Donald Trump wins in a landslide.
	He wins Pennsylvania, he wins Georgia, he wins Arizona, he wins Wisconsin, he wins these states.
	I mean, even New York, people are talking about New York and Minnesota.
	These are states that haven't been on conservative maps in many, many election cycles.
	And if they try and put him in prison or house arrest, it's only going to get worse.
	It's going to get better for us.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, yes, all of those states are in play.
	I do think Donald Trump has the potential to win in a landslide.
	The big question mark is what are they plotting?
	What are they going to try to do to throw us off course?
	Because the course we're on right now is a landslide victory for Donald Trump.
	Well, we don't take it for granted as that, I think it was a guest of ours, the Special Forces guy said, you gotta run up that ramp like you're the third monkey onto Noah's Ark.
	You fight, you fight, you fight, and you make sure that the feeling of being 20 points down motivates you and everybody else to make sure that it's two Big to rig.
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	The debate.
	I'm hearing all kinds of contradictory stuff about what's going to happen at the debate.
	What expectations do you have?
	Do you think this guy's going to show up?
	Do you think Biden's going to show up?
	Well, he's definitely going to show up, but I'm not sure that anyone's counting on him being the primary person to debate Donald Trump.
	I know there's a lot of speculation about Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.
	So they'll be the proxies?
	I think so.
	I mean, we saw it with Chris Wallace back in 2020.
	I don't know what else they can do.
	They can't.
	Who was the other one who did the fake fact check on Mitt Romney?
	Who was that, Eric?
	Do you remember?
	Katie Couric.
	Katie, who lied about Obamacare during the debate as one of the hosts of the debate.
	OK, so in that case, The Snopes website, seven years later, just declaring that, oh, Donald Trump didn't say there are fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville thing.
	I have a theory that that's for the debate to make sure that they can't even defend that.
	What do you think?
	Is that interesting?
	It is.
	The timing of it's really interesting.
	I hadn't connected it to the debate until you mentioned it, but I think you might be right, because it's kind of a weird thing for them to change that, saying they have, for seven years, they have confirmed that Donald Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people regarding the Charlottesville shooting, which, of course, never happened.
	He never did that.
	And the fact that they changed it, I think it was just this week or maybe last week.
	The other weekend.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It was just recently.
	It's kind of a weird time to change it, so it's got to be connected to the debate.
	What would you like to see President Trump do?
	Cool, little bit of humor, what do you think he should do?
	Because 90 minutes, what should he do?
	Personally, I personally would love to see him just unhinged.
	Because you're a Marine!
	Show full Trump, you know, do that.
	I know that's probably... Iwo Jima, on the beaches, right?
	I would love to see it, because you know he could just annihilate Joe Biden.
	I know that's probably not the wisest thing for a political candidate, so I'm sure he'll pull back and be a little bit more political, but I would love... Should he go to Hunter?
	Should he pull out the Hunter Biden?
	Oh, 100%.
	100%.
	That's all fair game.
	Not just because it's really bad facts for Joe Biden, but it's true, and the American people need to understand how bad the first family really is.
	I want to thank you for serving our nation in uniform as a Marine, and I want to thank you for your unflinching spirit to keep fighting today, Christina.
	Thank you.
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	Rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation.
	An education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge.
	And the crime, and the gangs, and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.
	This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.
	Doesn't it seem like so long ago, the inauguration of the 45th, and God willing if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States, talking of the dark carnage wrought on the nation, which would be reversed at the moment he put up his right hand and swore on the Bible.
	It's not really hyperbolic.
	The next four years, short of COVID, were quite incredible.
	The securing of the border, the biggest economy we'd ever seen, the wiping out of the physical caliphate of ISIS, the revitalization of NATO.
	And to put us in a position where we were exporting energy, we had more energy than we could use.
	The last four years have been quite, quite the reversal of that, which is a perfect, perfect way to discuss the book.
	For this Manhood Hour, The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation from a man who, we've had one person on the Manhood Hour three times, but we haven't had somebody four times, and who better than Professor Victor Davis Hanson from Stanford University, the Hoover Institution.
	Professor, welcome back to America First.
	Well, thank you for having me again, Seb.
	So, before I get into something a little bit more personal, I have to ask, is there something significant in the timing of the release of a book entitled The End of Everything, four months before the election for a new president?
	Yes, I didn't, of course, intend it that way, but I went back and looked at four examples in history of something that never really happens.
	It's very rare that the defeated Is not just given terms or capitulates, but is erased.
	Its civilization is erased.
	And as I began to finish the book, of course, we hear the existential threats of Iran toward Israel.
	We saw the Ukrainian.
	I think 30 times I've counted Russian officials have threatened to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine.
	We have Turkey threatening to wipe out Athens and the Armenia of all and Israel.
	Of course, there's no need to mention North Korea.
	And I was struck that, like these cases in the past, that everybody denied it.
	They said it can never happen here, or we're just as strong as we ever were, or we're in our moment.
	We're the United States, or we're Carthage, or we're ancient Thebes, or We're Constantinople, the bulwark of Christendom in the East, and this will not happen to us.
	And they had no idea that people they were dealing with, or the fact that allies are fickle and don't help people who were perceived to be weak, so I found it very chillingly contemporary.
	Well, we will discuss.
	Everybody needs to get to the book, The End of Everything, but we'll tease a little bit of the commonalities or the lessons learned from the collapse and the dissolution of these empires, Thebes, Carthage, Constantinople, and the Aztecs.
	But first, let me go back in time to You had a wonderful interview recently with the great Larry Arnn, the president of Hillsdale College, and it reminded me of a speech you gave for Hillsdale on Patton as an Ajax and the similarities to President Trump.
	You have a unique vantage point on what has happened to America in the last 50, 60 years, because you straddle two worlds that are usually hermetically separated from one another.
	You live in the real world, the farm of your family.
	I think raisins and almonds, the family estate or the farm, the functioning farm.
	And then, in the rarefied ivory towers of academe of Stanford University, and you are the preeminent scholar of military history, talk to us about not the Cartago de Lenda-esque aspect of the collapse of civilizations, But the internal dissolution, the dissolving of the civilization from the inside, where, for example, we don't have enough farmers.
	We don't have people who till the land, till the soil, build things, make things in factories.
	Where is America in terms of its not external threats, but in the health Of the body economic internally.
	How much of the threat comes from inside America, given the unit party?
	Let me just tee it up like that.
	Yeah.
	Well, you're absolutely right to make the connection.
	In every single case, historically and contemporaneously, what makes a nation vulnerable in a fashion that it had not been vulnerable before is not necessarily or even at all the magnitude of the enemy's power, but the dissolution Internally.
	And there's usually about four or five symptoms.
	Ancient, modern, contemporary.
	And we know what they are.
	One of them is financial.
	We're borrowing a trillion dollars every 90 days.
	But even more dangerously, the interest rate is 5.5% or 5%.
	And we're spending more on interest than on national defense.
	And nobody talks about it.
	And then, of course, every society, every empire, every city-state, every nation has to have A sovereign border where it says within these borders, we have a unique civilization.
	If you have no borders, you have no nation.
	We don't have a border.
	It's not that it's porous now, Seb, it doesn't exist.
	It was destroyed.
	It was completely destroyed by Joe Biden.
	And then, of course, is the military.
	And I don't want to get into a long exegesis about the Roman Empire or the Greek city-state, but we're short 45,000 recruits.
	And they're not just any recruits.
	If you look at the data, it's not Necessarily, people of minority background or gays or women are not joining.
	It's one demographic.
	It's white males from rural middle-class America.
	And these are the people who died at twice their numbers in the demographic in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they're not joining.
	Maybe it was because they drummed out predominantly white males, the 85% 8500, excuse me, who didn't get the vaccine.
	But more importantly, it's the DEI that we're going to investigate you for racism and systematic bias that we heard from Mark Milley and Lloyd Allison, and then they found nothing.
	So that group, for a variety of reasons, DEI, WOKE, you name it, is not joining.
	And then you talk about our infrastructure.
	We're not building the necessary weaponry to equip if we did have enough soldiers, but more importantly, there's only about four or five things that are stuff of civilization food here in California.
	We had the second wettest year in the last decade and 90% of the water.
	Our governor let out to the ocean and we're going to idle hundreds of thousands of acres of the richest land in the world because of the lack of irrigation while it was plentiful.
	We blew up four dams on the Klamath River with funding from a ballot that was designed to build dams.
	And yet they used that money and diverted it to destroy them.
	So this is kind of a nihilism.
	And when you look at energy, and we've talked about that before, you've talked eloquently about it.
	You just mentioned it.
	We have enough gas and oil to be completely energy independent, not to mention hydroelectric and nuclear for 50 years.
	And yet this administration Rather than produce energy, it drains it from the strategic petroleum reserve just for political expediency.
	And then finally, you have to have a society that's secure.
	And when you have the idea that you don't, it's not that we're not enforcing the law.
	What's new now is that we don't believe in the law.
	We believe that critical race theory or critical legal theory means that an act of crime is an expression of cry of the heart about social justice.
	And so we don't really punish looting or theft or assault, given the context of who does what to whom,
	and their particular credentials.
	So this is a very nihilistic period.
	I don't think we've ever seen anything like it.
	And I think the idea is that from the Biden administration, this is unpopular.
	We know that.
	But when we're done with this country after four years, we have fundamentally transformed it in a way that when you come in, if you do come in, the remedy will be worse than it is because you're going to have to do things to undo what we did that are going to be so drastic.
	and so controversial that it will be impossible to do it.
	We've done lasting damage.
	They don't call it damage.
	We've done lasting transformation that you're gonna find it very difficult.
	And that's what's scary about these people.
	They're anarchists and nihilists.
	Yeah.
	A dangerous concatenation.
	A dangerous combination.
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	We are back here on the Manhood Hour with the author of a veritable library of books.
	All are worth your time.
	The latest is The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation, Victor Davis Hanson.
	Professor Hanson, you went through the key factors for the collapse of a society or a civilization.
	You talked about financial abandon, the lack of borders or sovereignty.
	the decrepitude of their military and then lastly the decrepitude or lack of
	Yes.
	investment in infrastructure can i just test one more potential
	indicator of a civilization in collapse and that's just
	perversion and and we see the news today of this individual Tyler Cherry
	who has been hired as the associate director of communications for the
	white house fits in perfectly with Sam Brinton the
	cross-dressing mustachioed uh... director of nuclear waste at the
	department of energy who was finally fired after the third instance
	of him stealing for uh... luggage from a female travelers uh... at airports
	Is this a cliché or is there something to this that when a society starts to celebrate the perverse, it's an indicator of a deeper rot?
	Yeah, I think what happens is people, they have no problem with alternate lifestyles as long as they understand that what makes a civilization thrive is fertility, the nuclear family, the two-parent household.
	But when you start mainstreaming the alternative to that, at the expense of what makes civilization, then it collapses.
	And far greater people than myself, and you, and all of us, were observers of what was happening in Rome.
	So if you read the Satyricon, a really brilliant novel by Petronius, or Catullus' poems, or Suetonius' Lives of the Twelve Caesars, They all have one common denominator, and one of them is perversity, and they define that by excess in food, fashion, but especially sexuality.
	And believe it or not, transgenderism... Catullus has a poem about self-mutilation to change one's sex called the Atheist poem.
	The Satyricon is a biting satire about cross-dressing and transgenderism Vis-a-vis the Roman legionnaire on the Danube and the Rhine that's protecting the society that permits that and champions that.
	And of course the message from these Roman pessimists is we're in bad shape because what destroys a civilization in their view is leisure and excess, not dearth and poverty or hard work.
	And it's really timely.
	And when Livy in the Priam to his history said, We have reached a point where the medicine is worse than the disease, and what he meant was the return to normalcy or orthodoxy would offend the intelligentsia or the creative classes in such a degree that people are afraid of them.
	And we can't do what we know we have to do.
	And I think that's very timely.
	We know what we have to do with the budget.
	We know what we have to do with the family.
	We know what we have to do with the border.
	We know what we have to do with the military.
	We know what we have to do with balancing the budget, etc.
	And yet the mere thought of it and the criticism and the hysteria that would ensue, it has frightened our leaders.
	And that's why I think Donald Trump historically has an advantage of Any other contemporary, he doesn't care.
	He's about the only person on the, you know, he's kind of a tragic figure, as I pointed out before, that he feels he has a certain skill set for a certain time and place, and one of the prices of that is people are not going to like him, at least in the meantime, but later on he feels that they will appreciate what he did, even though they were not very helpful at the time he tried to implement what had to be done.
	In addition to the celebration of the perverse, how much should we read into or see a canary in the coal mine when it comes to the normalization of violence against the innocent or the other?
	We saw this incredible footage from Los Angeles at the weekend.
	of just insane Jew hatred being meted out outside a synagogue.
	There are several Jewish authorities who are saying this is the sign of something far bigger.
	When Jews are openly attacked, then much worse can be expected.
	Well, this country prided itself in the idea that almost half the world's Jewry lived in
	the United States and almost half, 45% in America, 45% in Israel.
	And they were both sanctuaries.
	They were unlike Europe.
	They were safe from the hatred of the Middle East, Latin America, Africa.
	It was the United States and Israel.
	And now we forfeited that.
	And what's really insidious about this anti-Semitism is It's not some easily identified guy in a Klan could.
	These are people who wear masks and keffiyehs and all the Palestinian accoutrements and they pose as victims.
	And the DEI movement we saw with the Black Lives Matter had posters immediately glorifying the hang gliding murder terrorist on October 7th.
	And so the people who are exuding this hatred of what you saw in Los Angeles or what you saw on the subway of New York They themselves say, according to critical race theory, we cannot be oppressors.
	We are oppressed.
	And therefore we get an exemption to spout hatred and to assault people because we're only correcting historical.
	That is a much more insidious, dangerous antisemitism than the old 1950s guy that was obviously identifiable as a nut and a hater.
	And yet the left who brought us this new antisemitism, is incapable of dealing with.
	They're afraid of it.
	They won't do anything.
	There's one other thing that we don't talk about.
	So we have 250,000 students from the Middle East and most of them are from the upper classes that pay 110 percent of tuition room and board and the universities rely on them and they exempt them and that encourages them to use the useful idiot students to join their ranks and they're saying things on campus and they're doing things that I never We saw in the 1960s or 70s, you know, championing Hitler, or River to the Sea, or Kill the Jews, or taking historic sandstone architecture at Stanford that's porous, that can't be easily erased, and writing the most hateful Kill the Police, Kill Jews stuff on Stanford architecture, and then a debate about what type of punishment they deserve, when they should be all expelled and their visas should be canceled.
	Again, the remedy apparently is worse than the disease, but this is really dangerous.
	This mainstreaming of anti-semitism on the left by DEI people and woke people especially.
	Yeah, it seems to be an institutionalizing of anti-semitism.
	Every country has racists in it, but when you have the likes of the Squad celebrated as the face of one of our two main parties and you have Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and the tweets about, you know, hypnotizing the West and it's all about the Benjamins.
	It's a very different kind of case and a far more serious one.
	We're talking to the author of the latest work, The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation, Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
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	In his latest work, the author, our guest, Victor Davis Hanson, talks about the end of
	everything, how wars descend into annihilation, and your cultures that you analyze, the Thebes,
	Carthage, Constantinople, and the Aztecs.
	Civilizations that have just basically disappeared, which is always fascinating.
	My father was obsessed with the Etruscans, another similar civilization.
	I want everybody to get the book, Professor, but give us one common thread or a conclusion that is of relevance today when it comes to these incredible civilizations that were just nullified.
	Yes.
	Well, in all the cases of the four that I looked at, there was an unreality.
	They all had had more extensive territory.
	They were richer.
	And they felt that that past grandeur somehow had carried on into the present.
	That was number one.
	Number two is they were very naive about the people who were outside their territory and they were fighting with who targeted them.
	And by that I mean Alexander the Great, Scipio Africanus, Mehmet II, Hernan Cortes.
	These were all intellectuals.
	They weren't Attila the Hun or Tamerlane.
	They were learned people, and the people inside the walls, at the targeted population, said, they can't happen here.
	They wouldn't do that.
	They're not going to wipe us out.
	And they, of course, they leveled them.
	And they destroyed their language, their culture, and all memory of them.
	They all thought there was going to be allies.
	It was very tragic to write about and read the firsthand accounts of the people on the walls of Constantinople.
	They kept saying, there's going to be There's going to be a Genovese fleet right up the Darnals any day now that's going to save us from the occupying and besieging Turks.
	Or the Thebans said, I know the Spartans are going to come.
	They're going to come and come to the rear route.
	And they never did.
	And there was never any, there was complete naivete.
	They didn't understand that some of the ruthless and most dangerous people in history are intellectuals and learned people.
	They're not just crude people.
	And we saw that with Hitler and we saw that with Stalin and Mao.
	They all had pretensions of erudition.
	So that was the thing.
	And then they, I think also they didn't understand militarily that the people outside their walls or outside their territory that had invaded them had a system that technologically, in terms of discipline, formation, tactics, was the way of the future.
	Whether it was Macedonian phalanx or the Roman legion, Or the tercio, or the arquebus of Cortes, or what Mehmet was doing with the Janissaries and conscripted Christian cannon fodder.
	And of course, he had European scientists and engineers that were creating cannon that nobody had ever seen before.
	And the people inside Constantinople couldn't quite believe it.
	We invented cannon.
	We were the people who were the West.
	We were superior, but they did not There wasn't a naivete.
	You see that today about North Korea.
	Don't worry about North Korea or Putin.
	Putin's just a blowhard.
	He's Russia.
	It's anemic.
	It has a smaller economy than California.
	That same type of self-assurance without introspection at your own strengths and weaknesses vis-a-vis where you were 10, 30, 50 years ago, where you want to be 10 or 20 years from now.
	It was complete willful blindness, if it were.
	Is it an aphetism, a denigration of the savage or the simpleton, or is it more than that?
	Is it a sense of being a-strategic?
	I don't want to say hubris, but there's a certain arrogance.
	We're Thebes.
	We're the home of mythical Oedipus.
	This is where Antigone took place.
	This was the great liberator Epaminondas.
	successors. We're Carthage, we're the Carthage of Hannibal that fought the
	Romans for 22 years on their home ground.
	We're Constantinople. We've been here for 1100 years, right in Asia. Or we're the Aztecs. We've been
	200 years. There's only 50, 150 at the most, and the 500, excuse me, and then
	1500 of these crazy whoever they are, and they wouldn't have the ability or the desire to wipe out us.
	It's that idea.
	It's not individual hubris, it's civilizational, it's societal hubris.
	The book is The End of Everything, How Wars Descend into Annihilation.
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	There's a strange thing about President Trump.
	He does things like that.
	He has an amazing sense of humor.
	And then, the flick of a switch, things can get very, very serious.
	I was in the courtroom.
	I witnessed what was done to him by Judge Murchan.
	And there was a moment during those proceedings where he said something an American president really shouldn't have to say.
	Here's the reminder.
	And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gag order.
	Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
	You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it but I can't talk about it.
	Because this judge has given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
	And frankly, you know what?
	Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
	It's not even close.
	I'll do that sacrifice any day.
	I'll do that sacrifice any day.
	I'll go to prison for the sake of the Constitution.
	Professor Hanson, when you book the case for Trump, when you had a book event here in Washington, D.C., I'd been a fan of yours for years, but that was the first time I actually got to meet you.
	And I knelt down for you to sign the book, and you said something to me.
	You leant over and you said, If it weren't for him, the socialists would have won.
	Now that was several years ago, where at a point where he's been out of office for four years,
	he's facing 730 years in prison. Has the Ajax hypothesis increased in veracity?
	Is he the barbarian we need to save America more than ever?
	Or is the rejection of the Ajax a little bit tempered by the fact that we see 100,000 people in New Jersey, 30,000 in the Bronx?
	Is this a man who has attracted support from the most unlikeliest of corners?
	Yeah, I think it's both.
	They're not antithetical.
	And what I argue in the book, and I think what you're seeing today, is this figure that has these skill sets and understands what has to be done, and he's willing to do it within legal channels.
	And yet, his personality, his decisiveness, even his barbarous nature or his crudity will offend people.
	But they won't object as long as he's successful.
	But when the success starts to mature, and people can see the results, then they have a margin of error, so to speak, and they can start to worry about the irrelevant, the tweet.
	You saw that in the John Ford movies, The Searchers, we saw it in Shane, High Noon.
	It's this tragic hero comes in, he sees an ossified society that's paralyzed by these challenges, he starts to solve the problem, and then he realizes there wasn't a place for him like that.
	And so we saw that first chapter, and he Trump sort of was just wrote off in the sunset.
	People say they'll never come back.
	And then the same pathology started to reappear again with Joe Biden's three years.
	And they said, oh, my gosh, we need somebody like this back again.
	But do we dare bring him back?
	And so he comes back.
	And now there's people saying, please save us again from the cattle barons or these existential
	threat or in the case of Sophocles from the bureaucracy or these radical people.
	And I assume that when he comes in and he does what he did four years ago, at some key
	moment, people are going to say, well, why did I ever bring him back?
	Or now he tweeted something.
	Or why does he have to call someone stupid?
	And that's the kind of paradox of the tragic hero.
	It's an interesting, this is as if we're having a sequel to Shane.
	It's the return of Shane.
	It is.
	That's what November the 5th is.
	You always call things very, very honestly.
	You never rose tint or sugar coat anything.
	But I have to say, if I look back at my time in the White House and the fact that we achieved so much, even though we had malefactors and seditionist elements like General Kelly and Vindman inside the wire, the fact that he achieved so much despite the saboteurs and then COVID is remarkable.
	If he has four years, if he wins, God willing, and he has four years without saboteurs inside the building or the administration, The sky's the limit, potentially, in draining the swamp and rectifying what has to be rectified.
	Well, that's certainly true on the plus side of the ledger.
	And you have to add to that equation that he's four years of experience.
	He's savvy.
	He himself will admit he had no constituency.
	Neither the Republican elite nor the Democratic Party was going to help him.
	They were both opposed to him.
	And he had never done this before.
	So he comes in Uh, with those advantages.
	But on the negative side of the ledger, let's be frank.
	Joe Biden makes Barack Obama's agenda look tame in comparison.
	This is the most radical government we've ever seen.
	Obama opened the border.
	He didn't destroy it entirely.
	There wasn't an idea that if you loot or smash and grab or carjack, then maybe that wasn't really your fault.
	there wasn't this idea that, I mean Obama wanted to get out and play Iran against Israel
	and all that, but we didn't see anything like Kabul.
	I never seen anything like that, the 50 billion in weapons that's left for terrorists.
	We never, Obama said a lot about energy and everything, but even he thought it was a little
	bit much to drain the strategic petroleum reserve right before an election while Kansan
	I mean, he started it all.
	But Obama brought his people in, and the attitude was, we really wanted to do this with Obama, but he was the first hardcore progressive, and we didn't know how far to go.
	And now we know that we can do a lot more than Obama did.
	And Obama's almost envious of the way that Biden has unleashed these forces that he
	created and yet he didn't get full credit. So I think he's very involved in the Biden administration. And
	he said that, he said he'd love to call in a third term from his basement without
	actually being in the spotlight.
	My hypothesis is always been he's a very lazy man.
	I think he admitted to that in his memoirs.
	So he doesn't have to be the real puppet master.
	If you look at all the people who are the second and third tier members of the Biden administration, they're all Obamaites.
	I mean, Merrick Garland doesn't run the DOJ.
	It's Lisa Monaco, Obama's former counterterrorism advisor.
	So if you look through it all, it's the schlep of the Obama administration that's actually
	running the Biden administration.
	But you're right, the nihilism, the absolute destructive forces, by comparison to Obama,
	he made it look like a tea party when he was in charge.
	The book you have to order right now from our guest is The End of Everything, How Wars
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	Professor Hansen, let's get very concrete in the last couple of minutes we have left. We are
	allegedly going to have a presidential debate on Thursday. Your advice for President Trump for
	Thursday and then for the next four months going forward? Very quickly. Remember the Biden of
	the State of the Union, the Phantom of the Opera's hype, you know, semi-fascist speech, the first
	debate.
	Biden will rest.
	He will have some kind of stimulant.
	He'll come out, at least for the first 40 minutes, he'll attack Expect a level of vituperation that's kind of unprecedented.
	Keep calm.
	The best way of going is to compare your record of four years with his, your agenda to come, and the disaster that his policies have inflicted on the Americans.
	Have a Reagan-esque idea.
	There you go again, Joe.
	There you go again.
	There's no need to get down and tit for tat.
	That's what he wants, in other words.
	He wants Trump more like the first debate than the more successful second debate.
	And don't underestimate the ability to rest him and to stimulate him simultaneously for
	this debate.
	And so that would be one thing.
	As far as the next four or five months, I think he's doing pretty good as it is.
	I really think it's important that he campaigns in the inner city and in big cities, and he
	appeals to people outside the traditional Republican constituency, because that is really
	terrifying to Democrats.
	More Bronx events, more New Jersey events, go to Baltimore, go to these deep Democrat cities.
	Yes, and that all in, if he has the demeanor and the Relaxation and the confidence that he had with the tech barons and that all-in podcast.
	He'll do fine.
	That all-in podcast was quite something else.
	Whatever they do to him, whatever they throw at him, they just cannot break his will.
	Truly the Ajax for the age.
	Hopefully one that will be treated better.
	In the meantime, you must get our friend's latest book, The End of Everything, How Wars Descent into Annihilation.
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