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May 28, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Will a jury of New Yorkers convict President Trump on a non-crime?

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	♪♪ ♪♪
	♪♪ Because the judge in this case and the prosecutors know that they'll never publicly admit, if they jail Donald Trump, he's going to win overnight.
	So if Donald Trump is found guilty, which because it's a rigged system, there's a likelihood that he might, they're going to have to allow Donald Trump to stay out on bond while he appeals this bogus trial.
	Otherwise, this country is going to go nuts.
	Otherwise this country is gonna go nuts.
	Only the ones that love this country.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I hope you had a peaceful, a blessed, long weekend celebrating those who gave their ultimate measure of devotion for this country.
	Feels like a Monday, doesn't it?
	It's a Tuesday.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, your host for the next three hours.
	Don't go anywhere.
	Usually I have a pretty good list of about a dozen things to discuss.
	Let me just Let me just quickly calculate how many things we have to discuss.
	In addition to our amazing guests, we'll have Lord Black with us, Rudyard Lynch, we'll have Steve Cortez, and you, our dear listeners, the number here is 833-33-GORKA.
	If you want to discuss any of these issues today, Then please do call in and sound off.
	The trial proceeding right now, the one I was at last week, the prosecution is currently, as we speak, delivering their closing arguments in a weird perversion of the legal system in America.
	They are being allowed to speak last.
	Not the defense, as is always the case, so that the last impression the jury has is from the defendant's team.
	No, in this case, I guess because the Department of Justice told Judge Juan Merchan that the prosecution must be in the poll position, it will be the state of New York that gets to speak last, as they are doing right now.
	We also have to discuss the president, President Trump.
	Appearing at the Libertarian Convention this weekend.
	First time ever that a former president and a Republican candidate has spoken at a Libertarian Convention.
	We, we had our man on the inside who will give you a full report.
	We have the story of the pier.
	The Biden-Gaza pier.
	What's happened to it?
	Yeah, it's collapsing and washing up on the shore.
	What else would you expect from the greatest nation in the world than the military construction that we have put in a war zone without a shot being fired has broken up and washed up on the shore?
	We'll talk about the latest documentary about Alex Jones that Mr. G told me about.
	Yeah, you want to hear about that.
	We'll talk to you about, well, the $50 million that was funneled by the Biden administration under the name of the environment to do what?
	Yeah, to do political warfare.
	The senator you've never heard about from West Virginia released that to the public.
	We have all the details.
	The 31 people shot in Chicago over the weekend.
	Hmm, who runs Chicago?
	I think you know.
	And then we have, what else?
	Oh!
	Chuck Schumer said the quiet part out loud.
	I have no under- no understanding as to why he admitted what he wants to do and what the Democrats want to do with the tens of millions of illegals in America.
	Maybe he's gone full Biden, maybe he's senile as well, but he's finally confessed that they want to give them all citizenship and we have the receipts.
	But let's start with the most important trial in a hundred years.
	This is the president's son, Donald Trump Jr., earlier today outside the courthouse, cut 13.
	This is a sham.
	It's insane.
	And it needs to stop.
	Because if you think for one second that this ends with Donald Trump, you have not been watching what's going on in the Democrat Party in the last few years.
	They want power at any and all costs.
	Your rights be damned.
	That can't stand.
	That can't happen.
	This sham prosecution, this insanity, this abomination has to stop now.
	You can hear the anger in his voice, can't you?
	Righteous indignation.
	Being flanked by Eric, his brother, and Eric's wife, Lara Trump.
	And he's right.
	Let's just stop and drill down on that for a moment, please.
	What is this all about?
	Can you tell me what the crime is?
	The crime?
	What did President Trump do?
	He's got 34 counts against him.
	As far as I'm concerned, there's no way he walks out of that courtroom today or this week after the jury comes back without being convicted on at least one count.
	But one count is all they need.
	Why?
	This has nothing to do with justice.
	Who was hurt?
	Eric, this is a great way of putting it.
	Eric, who was hurt?
	If there's a felony, right, usually somebody has, what, been killed, mugged, some property has been damaged, some wealth has been stolen.
	Who is the victim in this crime?
	I can actually think of one victim, and that would be Michael Cohen's ego.
	Oh, well done.
	Nicely put.
	Nicely put.
	Exactly.
	Who is the victim here?
	Just take politics out of the equation for a nanosecond.
	Who was damaged here?
	The greatest absurdity of all is what?
	It's a bookkeeping error in a private company.
	Not a publicly traded one.
	A private one.
	Which means what?
	A payment was misclassified that should not have been called legal expenses?
	Why shouldn't it have been called legal expenses?
	It was payment to the President's lawyer.
	So what?
	Because he turned that around and gave it to Stormy Daniels, and somehow that's election interference.
	But the most absurd aspect of it all, when was that mislabeling of a business dispense, when did it occur?
	It occurred in January 2017, after the election.
	Not in 16, not before the election, after the election.
	So the state of New York, the prosecutors for Alvin Bragg and the judge who, you know, should be wearing the jersey of the prosecution, is saying President Trump somehow distorted the election by his employees mislabeling a business expenditure after the election.
	And that's the felony.
	How can you distort an election after the election?
	Did that statement on an internal document of the Trump Organization, did it go into a time capsule back in time to before the election in 2016?
	And then somehow, was it used to defraud anybody?
	To defame anybody?
	No.
	At the same time, Stormy Daniels has written an official document stating she had no sexual relations with President Trump.
	And the other star witness, Michael Cohen, is a convicted perjurer.
	A convicted perjurer who spent 14 months in jail as a perjurer who admitted on the stand 10 days ago that he stole at least $40,000 from the man he is testifying against.
	Oh yes, I think we understand what's really going on here.
	As Don Jr.
	said, it's about power.
	100,000 people in New Jersey, 30,000 in the Bronx, a little black kid in Harlem leading the chant, we love you Trump, a firefighter as the president is delivering pizza saying, save us Mr. President.
	That's why, that's why, that's why.
	They can't stop him unless they put him in jail.
	The maintenance of power against your right to choose him as your president once more.
	Tell the world that you're on his side, that you've had enough.
	Tell the world that you are proudly pro-American.
	It's the yard sign.
	It's the T-shirt.
	It's the mug with his booking photograph from that police station.
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	I'm just texting.
	Oh, totally.
	Yeah.
	Lights are hot.
	Three and a half minutes.
	so we gotta do 15 14 um 11 what else is good uh he's on the one
	I think that's enough.
	All right, so let's do 6, 8, 11, 14, 15.
	I think that's enough.
	All right, so 6.
	Do you agree with my friend at Kash Patel, oh, just Kash Patel, that if they jail President Trump,
	he will win?
	Eight.
	Well, there you go.
	At Chuck Schumer has finally confessed.
	The ultimate goal of the Democrats is to give all illegals in America citizenship.
	Eleven.
	Robert De Niro must really live in a bubble.
	He wants to blame President Trump for what the Democrats have done to New York City.
	Seven, uh, fourteen.
	Uh, drag queens, um, drag queens are just innocent entertainment, correct?
	Question mark.
	Here's RuPaul promoting the self-mutilation that is at the heart of the transgender movement.
	And then 15.
	I've never heard of at-Senator Shelley Caputo.
	From West Virginia.
	But you have to listen to what she just said about how the Biden funneled tens of millions of dollars to an NGO for political warfare.
	All right.
	70 seconds.
	Come in with...
	Come in with 11, then I'll do Angel Tree, and then we'll go to our buddy.
	Hey Steve!
	Hey there, how are you sir?
	Good, good, good, good.
	What do we put in the chyron for you?
	I am President League of American Workers.
	League of American Workers?
	That is my C4, yes sir.
	That sounds fancy.
	You must work very hard to be the President of the League of Workers.
	Yeah, I'm the president, but also the janitor.
	You know how these startups go.
	All right, good.
	30 seconds.
	We're going to have lots of fun.
	Two segments.
	Standby.
	Wonderful.
	Come in.
	Angel tree.
	Yeah.
	And I'll use the audio.
	All righty.
	20 seconds.
	I grew up here and feel at home in these streets.
	I feel comfortable.
	The Twin Towers fell just over here, just over there.
	This part of the city was like a ghost town.
	But we vowed we would not allow terrorists to change our way of life.
	And we started the Tribeca Festival to bring people back.
	I love this city.
	I love this city.
	I don't want to destroy it.
	Donald Trump wants to destroy not only the city, but the country, and eventually he could destroy the world.
	Donald Trump wants to destroy New York?
	Alex, who runs New York, New York State and New York City?
	Which party?
	The Democrats.
	OK, so who's destroying New York?
	I'm confused.
	The Democrats.
	Oh, thank you.
	Wow, that deep, deep analysis.
	But Robert De Niro, he's going to win it for Biden.
	We will unpack all of that and so much more with our first guest of the day.
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	All right, he was key to getting President Trump elected the first time.
	We're so glad he is back on the MAGA bus now.
	He's a good friend of mine.
	He's a patriot.
	Steve Cortez, welcome back to America First!
	Sup, appreciate it.
	Thanks for having me.
	So, I don't want to waste too much time on this loser, but you're a political individual.
	You're a political animal.
	You're the president of the League of American Workers today.
	Help me understand.
	So President Biden is tanking everywhere.
	I mean, you know, five of the six battleground states, totally tanking.
	He can't get anybody to his events.
	President Trump goes to a Democrat state like New Jersey, gets 100,000 people.
	He goes to the Bronx, he gets 30,000 people.
	He's got black kids in Harlem shouting, you know, we love you, Trump.
	So they're sitting there in the White House or the DNC and they're saying, oh my gosh, it's collapsing.
	I know what we'll do.
	We'll get Robert De Niro.
	We'll get an old lunatic to shout on the streets of Manhattan, Steve, what?
	Are the Democrats like, have they totally lost it?
	Well, yes, I hope.
	I hope they've lost their minds, certainly.
	I hope they've lost the election.
	And I believe they have.
	But specific to, you know, so they send out this old actor as if that's going to change hearts and minds around the country, especially in heartland America.
	But then what does he say?
	He actually says that Donald Trump, of all people, somehow ruined New York City.
	When I think even left-leaning citizens of New York know very well that the party that has ruined New York City is the Democrat Party, all very close allies of Biden.
	And they also know that Donald Trump, when he was a private citizen, long before he was ever involved in politics, said he really was a key leader, a key driver of the
	previous renaissance of New York.
	New York in the 1970s was a wasteland, very similar in ways to the current predicament of New York City.
	It was saved on the private sector side largely by this young, brash, bold developer who said, I'm not giving up on
	New York City.
	And he in conjunction with Mayor Giuliani and a lot of brave police said, we're going to turn the city around.
	And they did.
	And there was really a golden era from roughly the mid 1980s until about five years ago.
	In New York City, and now everything is backsliding exactly to where it was.
	So, you know what?
	Donald Trump, as a young man, was the savior of New York from the private sector side.
	In his second presidential term, as a seasoned politician and leader, I believe he's now going from the public sector side to lead a new renaissance, not just of New York, but of cities all over this country.
	Cities in America, and anybody who's traveled lately knows this, they are in miserable condition.
	They are dirty, they are dangerous, and it is because of Democrat rule, and that would only worsen, God forbid, if Biden were to somehow get four more years in the White House.
	His website is amworkers.com, amworkers.com.
	Let's listen to our good buddy.
	In the lion's den at CNN, show Michael Singleton on the difference between the two campaigns.
	Cut to.
	Regardless of the reasons, we're going to the Bronx.
	It's important.
	No one should be presumptive to assume that people of color are going to just vote one way purely because they're black or because they're Hispanic.
	That seems to be the case for my Democratic friends.
	And I think it's why a lot of people of color are looking at Joe Biden and they're realizing that my life is not better.
	When I go to the grocery store, things are expensive.
	The infrastructure in my surrounding community has not improved.
	And when I think about the future for my children, they're still in dilapidated schools where the educational system is deplorable.
	That's the Democratic message in my perspective, and so to have a Republican show up, whether he's being booed, jeered, whatever the case may be, he's showing up to places where Joe Biden is not, and I think that's going to make a difference.
	He's showing up to places Joe Biden is not.
	What's the next five months going to look like?
	Are they really going to campaign with Joe Biden, or are they going to pull a fast one at the convention?
	What's your prediction, Steve?
	I believe it is going to be Joe Biden.
	And I know a lot of politicos out there, this is a favorite sort of water cooler topic about, OK, when is he going to get replaced?
	How is he going to get replaced?
	And here are my two reasons of why I believe the candidate is ultimately Joe Biden.
	The first is this man is the lust for power personified.
	And by the way, so is his wife.
	And that's very important.
	Given the cognitive problems of Joe Biden right now.
	So I think the idea that they would go willingly, that he would relinquish power after a half century in the Washington sewer, when he finally reaches the pinnacle of political power, the idea that he would willingly give it up, I think is just not realistic.
	Now, there might be folks out there saying, well, Cortez, it can be taken from him.
	Yes, it's possible, of course, that it can be taken from him at the convention.
	But here's the problem, and here's where the Democrats have painted themselves into a political corner.
	I think that given their own ridiculous rules about identity politics and their reliance, their fixation with quotas and with racial and sex identity, It is impossible for them, if they were to remove him
	against his will, which again, I think even that is unlikely, but let's say they did it. I
	believe it's impossible, Seth, for them to then skip over the black woman in Wayne,
	who is the vice president of the United States. She would be even worse than Joe
	Biden for them.
	It's a trap of their own making.
	We're talking to Steve Cortez.
	Follow me at Cortez with an S, Cortez Steve on Twitter.
	Stay there.
	We'll come back to you in a moment, Steve.
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	We'll be back after these messages.
	Stay on this channel.
	I'm. Yes, sir. So it is.
	Look, what we're mostly doing this year is campaigning on behalf of Donald Trump.
	But in terms of our issues, it is a right wing populist laborers organization.
	So trade and immigration are two bellwether issues that we focus on.
	Great.
	Love it.
	But as far as our political efforts, and we are C4, so we can be overtly political, almost all of our efforts in electoral politics are to help President Trump win.
	We're doing a lot of polling.
	I have a brand new Georgia poll, if you'd like to talk about that.
	Is it on your website?
	It is.
	Great.
	We'll talk about that.
	And then I need the... Oh, did you get any stuff from... Libertarians?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I got some.
	All right.
	And then I need that political headline about the people, the Democrats, crapping themselves.
	Which one?
	Freaking Out.
	It's Politico Freaking Out.
	Let's see if that comes up.
	Freaking Out.
	Oh, I'm going to do, I'm going to change it here.
	I'm going to do Patriot Mobile.
	Patriot Mobile.
	What else is a good thing to come in on?
	Is Jeff Banken No, he's not back.
	Play cut three again.
	Can I hear it?
	Cut three.
	Are you concerned about the weapons that are still being sent to Israel?
	Yes, many more need to be sent.
	I'm for killing Hamas terrorists, and I'm against the genocide that Hamas is trying to carry out.
	I think it's really sad that we're standing with modern-day Nazis.
	Over 40,000 people have been slaughtered.
	That's not a genocide.
	Shame on you!
	Over 40,000 people have been slaughtered.
	Israel are Nazis.
	The United States are Nazis.
	Israel and the United States are Nazis.
	The Israel and the United States are Nazis for killing over 40,000 people of my Palestinian family.
	Shut her up.
	Shut her up.
	United States are Nazis for killing over 40,000 people.
	My Palestinian family.
	That's enough.
	Give me a cup.
	Five.
	All right, go ahead.
	Matt Gaetz and Bob Goode, you call them scumbags.
	You still stand by that?
	I think you, more than anyone, know the type of people that we are dealing with here in Washington.
	And some of them are scumbags.
	I mentioned a couple of them.
	There's probably a laundry list of folks.
	You care to mention any more?
	Yes.
	Yes, I do.
	But not today.
	Wow.
	Said pillow at the top?
	No.
	Patriot.
	Oh, okay.
	Ends it out for Mayor and Margaret.
	We'll be right back.
	Yeah, we'll do that later.
	You also need that balance of nature video out at some point.
	I'm going to play a little bit of the music.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	We are back with our good buddy Steve Cortez, President of the League of American Workers.
	You've been doing some polling.
	We'll talk about that interesting result, I think, out of Georgia in a second.
	We are back with our good buddy Steve Cortez, President of the League of American Workers.
	You've been doing some polling.
	We'll talk about that interesting result, I think, out of Georgia in a second.
	But I've got to ask you this.
	What issue is going to be most damaging for the Democrats outside of immigration and the
	state of the economy?
	Is it going to be their attitude?
	They're turning their back on Israel.
	Here's one of the Code Pink lunatics trying to accost Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz, at the airport.
	Cut three, play cut.
	Are you concerned about the weapons that are still being sent to Israel?
	Yes, many more need to be sent.
	I'm for killing Hamas terrorists.
	I'm against the genocide that Hamas is trying to carry out.
	I think it's really sad that we've got to be standing with modern day Nazis.
	Over 40,000 people have been slaughtered.
	That's not a genocide.
	Shame on you.
	Over 40,000 people have been slaughtered.
	Israel and the United States are Nazis.
	The Israel and the United States are Nazis for killing over 40,000 people of my Palestinian family.
	The United States are Nazis.
	Israel and the United States are Nazis.
	The Israel and the United States are Nazis for killing over 40,000 people of my Palestinian family.
	Shame on you.
	Steve, how much of an issue will this be if you look at the uncommitted votes in Michigan and elsewhere?
	Right.
	Is that going to be a big deal?
	It is going to be a big deal, and it could potentially be decisive.
	And we have done definitive polling on exactly this topic, particularly polling of Democrat voters to see just how many of them are disaffected with Biden, because in their mind, he's actually being too tough or being too pro-Israel.
	Of course, that's ridiculous to any objective person who takes a look at the situation.
	And I'm thoroughly pro-Israel, of course, in this conflict.
	But the point is, he has a significant portion on his sort of left flank that is very, very angry with him.
	To be specific, in our polling of the swing state of Michigan, 15% of Democratic voters said they are much less likely to vote for him because of his policy toward Gaza.
	Now, some small part of that may well be people who are very supportive of Israel, particularly Jewish Americans who typically vote Democratic, but most of it is more the far left and particularly young voters.
	So Biden has a real problem here.
	And of course, what does he try to do?
	Because he never operates on principle.
	It's always about where does he think There's political expedience for him.
	So he's tried to thread the needle as far as the Democrat constituency.
	And when he's in front of pro-Israel Democrats, he tries to act as though he's pro-Israel.
	But then he only offends, of course, the folks who are on the far, far left fringes of American society.
	He has not thread the needle successfully, of course.
	He's not capable of that in any facet.
	So this is a real problem for him.
	It's definitely an opening for the GOP and for President Trump.
	And I would say even beyond the scope of just this very important struggle in Israel and Gaza,
	the world was largely at peace under President Trump.
	I think that is the more even the macro positive point to argue in favor of President Trump.
	We had a world, we were promised a return to quote normalcy and an end to quote chaos.
	We got the exact opposite under Joe Biden.
	The world was largely at peace because the United States was respected and feared.
	And both are very important.
	We will get back there again once we elect President Trump.
	We've got less than a minute left, but give us your big takeaway from your latest polling, Steve.
	So Georgia, double-digit lead.
	And by the way, we pulled an exactly even sample.
	So we're not cooking the books here.
	An exactly even sample of Biden and Trump 2020 voters in the swing state of Georgia.
	This is the first time in a battleground state in my scientific polling that we have a double-digit lead.
	Trump plus 10 in Georgia.
	And the main driver of that commanding lead Hispanics plus 13.
	He's actually outperforming among Hispanics, which is a lot bigger than most people might think in Georgia.
	There's over a million Hispanics there because of the job market.
	We go where the jobs are.
	A lot of Latinos in Georgia also commanding lead among young people who are left out of this Bidenomics economic disaster.
	So, up 10.
	No one should get complacent, of course, but be confident.
	The momentum is with us and we're going to win this election.
	He's the president of the League of American Workers, amworkers.com.
	You can follow him on Twitter at Cortez with an S, Cortez Steve.
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	A block.
	Yeah.
	My friend.
	Why they're really putting President Trump on trial.
	Hispanics coming out full force for President Trump.
	Oh and then you need ins and outs, right Alex?
	Yes sir.
	Stay with us for more one-on-one.
	I have the Charlie Kirk thing that you sent.
	Which one was it?
	Him with the college student who to vote for.
	Can you show that to me?
	I said 16 in the top cut.
	PhD at the top here?
	So the Charlie Kirk is 16 and the Destiny thing is cut 17.
	Oh, Destiny is 17.
	And then Kirk is 16.
	What is he saying in 16?
	One second, I can play.
	Oh, it's a long cut.
	He goes off on the college kid at the beginning and then I'll recognize it.
	Go, go, go, go.
	I'm a young person.
	I'm not really sure where I'll go in the election.
	What do you think I should focus on?
	Yeah, great question.
	According to Zillow.com, when Donald Trump ended his first term, it took 71... Do we have anything from Libertarians?
	I said, yeah, I got some stuff.
	Okay, good.
	So, play that while you're gonna tell me the story, alright?
	Okay, I'll try to keep on top of, that's juggling two things, but yeah, I should be able to do that.
	Yeah, okay.
	Did you say something?
	No.
	You you
	Well, look, I think that Biden has done well with he is a protector of institutions, like important institutions, like democracy, right?
	He should run as that, the keeper of democracy.
	It's a flawed system, but it works.
	Jeff, isn't that amazing?
	What's her name?
	Molly Jongfa.
	That's what Biden should run on.
	Protecting the institutions.
	Isn't that great advice?
	I think that's what the Democrats should do.
	What do you think?
	I'd like the end was the best.
	That'd be a good slogan.
	It's a flawed system, but it works.
	Oh, that whole line.
	That whole line.
	It's the institution.
	You know what that reminds me of?
	Oh, by the way, Jeff, I sent you a text over the weekend.
	I know you're super busy, but I'd sent you that analysis of a debate by somebody who was in the debate.
	Do you think I should do that with the thing I did with Destiny for the trigonometry guy?
	Yes, I like that.
	You think?
	I like that idea, yes.
	All right, because you know what?
	When I heard that cut you put up today, It reminded me of the first sentence out of Steve Bonelli's mouth, the guy who modestly calls himself Destiny, who I was debating.
	Do we have that cut?
	Listen, just listen to what the only leftist who's prepared to debate conservatives said as his opening salvo on the Trigonometry podcast with Constantine Kissin.
	I think the Biden is a good president because I think that he's shown that he's willing to defend and strengthen our institutions.
	I think that the United States is only as strong as the institutions that we have.
	You can have parchment guarantees from constitutions that say you're afforded XYZ rights or, you know, you're guaranteed in the United States to be able to do some particular things.
	But at the end of the day, if we don't have a government telling you that The food is safe, or this medicine is safe, or your car is not going to explode at the end of the day.
	I think that none of those things actually matter.
	The parchment guarantees.
	Yeah, that's why you vote for the Democrats, so your car won't explode at the end of the day.
	It's the — Eric, don't we need to — I mean, we need to protect the institutions!
	Isn't that exactly why we voted for Donald Trump, to destroy the institutions that are corrupt?
	I'm kind of like, wasn't that what we did?
	Exactly.
	That's why the left calls it, they refer to it as like, the temples of democracy.
	They've made it a quasi-religion that is perfect and can never ever be questioned.
	So when they believe that, of course they're going to say, oh yeah, the institution's above all else.
	Please, just make that your campaign platform.
	We're defending the institutions and democracy's broken, but it's kind of okay.
	Love it, love it, love it.
	Keep doing that.
	Alright, we've got to talk to the other take on the political culture in America.
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	It was Eric.
	Eric, were you an interloper at the Libertarian Convention?
	I absolutely was.
	Gotta give a quick shout out.
	I was able to go courtesy of the wonderful offices of the DC Young Republicans.
	They are based, they're pro-Trump, wonderful people.
	So I and a few other friends were able to go to show support.
	So not under false pretenses, but as an official guest.
	Exactly, yeah.
	And so support President Trump.
	Alright, so you've got this article that you wrote, a great article from our one and only Eric, governing the ungovernable thoughts from inside the Libertarian National Convention.
	Now the mainstream media said the president was heckled, they screamed, what was the lie about Fraudster?
	Or what did they say?
	Or hypocrite!
	Hypocrite!
	Hypocrite!
	What actually was the reception?
	And what were they actually shouting?
	Because it was an interesting thing that maybe conservatives could agree with.
	It's one of the most popular chants from libertarians.
	The Biden-Harris HQ account, which is their war room, basically tweeted that they were chanting hypocrite at President Trump.
	They were chanting end the Fed.
	Because that's like their number one pipe dream is to be able to destroy the Federal Reserve, abolish the Federal Reserve.
	So, leading up to his speech, you know, the few speakers who spoke before him, the crowd was pretty rowdy, not gonna lie.
	There was anti-Trump paraphernalia, t-shirts, signs, whatnot.
	And then what was it, what was it, Robert Kennedy Jr.' 's guys wanted, they were trying to hand out rubber chickens?
	Rubber chickens that made the squeaky noise, you know, squeak, squeak when you squeak them.
	And I remember going through the Secret Service security line, metal detector, and the one next to me, I hear a Secret Service agent deadpan just say, ma'am, that chicken can't come in here.
	And they took the chicken out of her purse and said, no.
	That needs to be a skit.
	A guy in a Secret Service body arm say, ma'am, that rubber chicken cannot come in here.
	I love it.
	All right.
	So you're in there.
	What was the energy like?
	How did they receive President Trump?
	Give us the story from the inside.
	For the rowdiness that was there prior to his speech that led to me and my friends thinking, oh, this is going to be a disaster.
	This will be the most embarrassing speech he's ever given in terms of reception.
	Once he took the stage, with God Bless the USA playing, as always, once again, that aura and magic took over.
	And the crowd was much better behaved than we expected.
	You know, in awe of, again, as Dave Smith said, the comedian podcaster prior to Trump speaking, First time ever a former president and major party nominee is addressing the Libertarian Convention.
	He made history.
	So they were much more respectful than we expected.
	There were some heckles and boos here and there.
	Mostly it was just them chanting their main priorities and the Fed over and over again.
	I want to get that guy Dave Smith.
	I know he's a hardcore Libertarian, but he seems pretty smart.
	Who did the convention choose?
	I think I sent you a photograph of the individual they chose instead of President Trump, although Big credit to President Trump going to the convention.
	Chase Oliver, a lovely individual standing next to a drag queen with a gay pride transgender flag.
	What do we need to know about Chase Oliver, Eric?
	He is gay, number one.
	A former Democrat who previously voted for Obama was convinced to get into electoral politics courtesy of his local pride group.
	He supports open borders.
	He was in favor of COVID lockdowns, which is very interesting.
	I've got photographs of him in like transgender pride flag COVID masks.
	And not exactly libertarian, I don't think.
	No, his nomination, honestly, again, President Trump actually did a great job of the speech hitting on the right talking points.
	To win over the crowd, mainly on cryptocurrency.
	And when he promised to commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht, because they had more signs for that, free Ross than anything else, you would think that was the number one issue.
	That was the Silk Road guy.
	Yes, that won over like 99% of the crowd.
	That combined with the nomination of this guy, like even hardcore libertarians who were heckling Trump and arguing Trump supporters on the floor, they said, all right, the nomination of this guy, someone described him as quote, a gay race communist.
	They said, yeah, we're going to vote for Trump now.
	He's the more libertarian choice.
	Put the photograph back up.
	I love that.
	Chase Oliver, the libertarian presidential candidate.
	Gay, race, communist.
	Perfect.
	Well done, libertarians.
	You're all children.
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	Transgenderism is disguised as a form of oppression.
	Transgenderism is disguised as a form of oppression.
	Transgenderism is disgusting.
	Okay.
	Unless there's something... I was thinking something about the promise of happiness was a pretty strong point, like they promise happiness.
	Or maybe the cult angle, like why she calls it a cult.
	Yes, why transgenderism is a cult.
	What was that?
	I think that was audio.
	It was Fox, I'm making sure they got it, because he's about to come out.
	Oh, looks like it, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Prosecution of one-third done.
	I love they have measurements of that somehow.
	Yeah, right.
	We're one-third done prosecuting.
	Oh, boy.
	So, what was the verdict?
	You expected, like, this week or something?
	It depends how long they take to come to the decision.
	Oh, got a couple of superchats here.
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	On Rumble, they are officially known as Rumble Rants.
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	In reaction to De Niro being a lunatic outside the courthouse in New York, what did our good friend say?
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	Democrats have recreated the New York that created Taxi Driver, and now the beneficiary of that lead role blames others.
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	Let's stay on the topic.
	Randy, South Carolina, on the Trump trial.
	Yes, Dr. G. I was wondering if you could help me figure out what role the judicial branch plays within a president for his impeachment.
	Because as I read it, it states that Congress should have the sole power.
	Correct.
	And so, I mean, it says in an impeachment process, and if I was defiant of impeachment, it would be remove a president from office.
	Correct.
	And so, along with being removed from office, why would you remove him from office?
	Because you charged him with a crime.
	Correct.
	So, I'm not sure what your question is.
	President Trump isn't the president right now, so what's your question?
	My question is, do the judicial branch have prosecutorial power over a president?
	Not while they're president.
	That's the whole point of immunity.
	That's what the Supreme Court is going to rule on this month.
	I understand that, but it shouldn't even have went to the Supreme Court.
	Of course it shouldn't!
	But how else are they going to win the election?
	The Democrats have to steal it before the first ballot is cast.
	Great question.
	Thank you, Randy.
	Let's go to our friend in Los Angeles, Brent.
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	This guy, I watched him in the courtroom.
	He made me.
	Me.
	I'm going to be a good boy.
	Yeah, I got that.
	Alright, give me Conrad.
	Mic's are hot.
	Conrad!
	Yes, sir?
	No new article this week because of the bank holiday?
	No, I did do one, but it was all, it was about Memorial Day.
	Okay.
	It was all, we should honor the dead, you know?
	Good, let's talk about that.
	And that particularly, my point was that those who served in unpopular wars like Vietnam, deserve at least as much credit as those who served in popular ones.
	Oh, that's superb.
	That's superb.
	All right.
	Eric, I'm not going to... Do you want me to send it to you now?
	I can send it now.
	No, no.
	I just love the sentiment.
	Let's just unpack it together.
	But you can send it to me afterwards, and then I'll repost it.
	I'm going to read something, Eric.
	Then we'll discuss Conrad's new article.
	Oh.
	And then... Did I mention a cut?
	Oh, Schumer.
	Schumer I'll probably mention in the B block.
	We'll just talk about Memorial Day.
	Oh, and I'll send you a couple of images from what I did on Memorial Day.
	Okay.
	Which was excellent.
	Where is it?
	Oh, here we go.
	Here's a great one.
	Oh my gosh, that's so good.
	Sebastian, I'm sending it to you right now.
	Perfect, thank you.
	It's to you and not Jeff.
	Perfect.
	I mentioned Bitburg and things like that.
	I mean, Reagan made the point that even these 18-year-olds who were dragged into the SS A horrible, evil organization and a horrible war.
	They were victims too, which he was right to say that.
	No, absolutely.
	What a perfect thing for us to discuss since we were off yesterday.
	How do you think it's going in court?
	I wish I was there today.
	I was there on Tuesday, but I'm not there today.
	Well, you know, as it's been going so far, utterly, utterly corrupt.
	But I mean, they can't convict, can they?
	Well, they can, because they've got 34 counts.
	I'm sure there'll be one count they'll find him guilty on, and then they'll say, oh, look!
	Convicted felon!
	Is there all felonies?
	Yeah.
	I'm sure there's one.
	The idea that a New York jury is going to be hung on 34 counts, I'm not sure that's possible.
	Not good.
	But keep the feed.
	Keep your eye on the feed, guys.
	Trump will be out of the game.
	America First!
	Magnificent!
	I hope you had a blessed, blessed memorial weekend.
	I received some bad news from a member of the NYPD, an Iraq war veteran, who was a very good friend of mine and a supporter, looked after me when I was in New York, Mark Woods.
	He died very suddenly while walking his dog.
	His family is in our prayers.
	We're going to talk now about Memorial Day.
	I know it's a day later, but we weren't here in studio, so it is apt for us to do so.
	And first, let's put some photographs up of where I was with my wife on Memorial Day.
	Thanks to a good friend of ours, Andy Wilson, a ranger who served in Vietnam, who keeps Keeps the flame of memory alight.
	We were in our community in Fairfax County at a memorial with the Boy Scouts, with veterans, with their families, raising the flags from half-mast, remembering those that gave their ultimate measure of dedication to their nation and to their fellow man.
	And at the memorial, my friend Andy read this very short poem That I'd like to share with you if you're unfamiliar.
	It's called The Soldier.
	If I should die, think only this of me, that there's some corner of a foreign field that is forever England.
	There shall be in that rich earth a richer dust concealed, Dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware, Gave once her flowers to love, her ways to roam, A body of England's breathing English air.
	washed by the rivers, blessed by the sons of home, and think this heart all evil shed
	away.
	A pulse in the eternal mind no less gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given,
	her sights and sounds, dreams happy as her day, and laughter learned to friends and greatness
	in the hearts at peace under an English heaven.
	I do this to remind us that we are part of the English speaking community, one that the
	great Winston Churchill wrote so warmly about over several volumes.
	It is that community that spans both sides of the Atlantic, that fought against the scourge of fascism and Nazism.
	It is a special community, one that Well, hopefully we'll be great once more because of those who understand it.
	Individuals like President Trump and individuals like our next guest, an author of a seminal work all of us in that community on both sides of the pond should read.
	The book is The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1, From Antiquity to the Caesars, 14 Anno Domini.
	Lord Conrad Black, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you very much, Sebastian.
	Thank you for that very moving introduction.
	You have Rupert Brooke, you were quoting from, was it not?
	Yes, it was indeed.
	And you have a new piece that talks to a broader appreciation of how we should think about yesterday.
	Would you share your thoughts from your latest piece, please, Conrad?
	Yes.
	I was making the point that... First, there's the historical question.
	I mean, the Veterans Day on November 11.
	Obviously, as you and I would know, that was the day of the effectively German surrender to the French commander of the Allied armies, Marshal Foch, in his railway car at Compiègne in 1918.
	The memorial day was launched in 1868 in remembrance of the Union Army dead, but it was gradually expanded to
	include the dead in all wars, and including Confederate dead.
	And I was supporting this on the grounds that all those people who gave their lives for
	a cause they believed in, a respectable cause they believed in, whether they were Confederate
	or Union, whether they were in any of the armed forces or firefighters, policemen, all
	of them.
	deserve our homage, and I specifically singled out the Mexican War, sometimes not thought of as a justifiable war, but it acquired one million square miles for the United States, including California and Texas, and those who died in that war died for what they believed to be the legitimate ambitions of their country, and they were right.
	The Vietnamese War was not popular with many people, But my point was that those who gave their lives in that war, in some respects,
	deserve even greater sympathy, because errors were made in the conduct of that war, and they didn't have the good fortune to be commended by great men like Washington and Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt and MacArthur, Eisenhower, Nimitz, General Marshall, Grant, Sherman, people like this.
	I shouldn't say people like that, there are very few people like that, but leaders of that stature.
	The point is, they made the sacrifice for a cause they believed in.
	They were trying to serve their country.
	And my final illustration of it was that in 19, I think it was 87, I'm sorry, 1985, that President Reagan went to Bitburg, a German war cemetery, on the anniversary, 40th Yeah, 85, the 40th anniversary of the end of the European War, and it turned out there were 2,000 German soldiers there, but amongst them were 39 young members of the Waffen-SS, so there was great pressure on Reagan to cancel a visit, but the German Chancellor Kohl asked him not to, and I went to Bergen-Belsen just before this, the concentration camp, death camp,
	and then to the cemetery and mr reagan made the point that even these thirty nine young men
	between the ages of eighteen and twenty two conscripted into what he was an evil
	organization the ss even very
	our casualties uh... and uh... and uh... and uh... and deserve some
	sympathy that they were dragged into that horrible nazi apparatus
	uh... to give up their lives in a war that should never have occurred
	And we should not be stingy about extending the status of victimhood to people.
	And I think that's an element of what we should all remember on occasions like Memorial Day.
	It's not just war heroes in a just war, in a victorious war.
	It's everybody who involuntarily made a sacrifice because they believed in the patriotic cause.
	And of course, in the United States, there's nothing remotely comparable to such an evil as the SS.
	I'm just illustrating the point.
	And as always, Mr. Reagan was extremely eloquent in making that point.
	When you look at what has happened ideologically to our English-speaking civilization of late, you look at the penetration of clearly ideological ideas into the military, whether it's the transgender, whether it's the pronoun training that happens on our bases.
	Are you worried that Is that which we had, that capacity to fight and defeat evil, is still there?
	Should it be needed on a mass scale again?
	I'm not worried about that at this time.
	If that practice continued, it would clearly dilute the focus and it might vary the motive of those who were in The Armed Forces.
	Of course, we've got to get rid of that.
	You can't have any of the rubbish about...
	Well, what is it, central race teaching, or whatever it's called?
	Critical race theory, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, that doesn't belong in the armed forces.
	It's a straight meritocracy conducted according to well-established and clear rules, and people are there voluntarily because they wish to serve the country in the full knowledge that it may lead to risk, and potentially even mortal risk.
	And I believe that patriotic spirit is strong, but we will ultimately reduce the effectiveness, as well as the attractiveness as a career, of the military if we dilute it and weaken it and distract its membership with critical race theory and all this nonsense about Transgender things and of course, you know, no one joins the military to learn new pronouns about how people self-identify from one day to the next.
	I mean, the whole thing is absurd.
	But I'm convinced, or at least almost 100 percent convinced, that that will not be lasting.
	You see recruitment falling off, and it is obvious that this refocus from legitimate
	military objectives and the military ethos to these politically correct virtue-signaling
	gestures, that that is unsuccessful.
	So I'm confident it'll be a short-term thing.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black, co-host of the podcast Scholars and Sense with Victor
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	We'll be back with Lord Black in a moment.
	Sir, Reagan.
	He ended up giving a speech at the cemetery, standing beside the German Chancellor, that
	made Mr. Churchill seem like an appeaser.
	I mean, to make sure there was no ambiguity about his views on the subject.
	He was extremely—well, he always was a wonderful public speaker, as you know, but he did himself on that occasion.
	Even Eli Vizel, who had been urging him not to go, I saw him on television being interviewed by David Brinkley right after, and he said, well, we all know that President Reagan is a great speaker, and that was a great speech, but I still regret that he went there.
	But, you know, it all worked out well.
	You have some memory, if you can remember Elie Wiesel discussing the President's speech.
	That's quite a formidable memory.
	Well, it wasn't quite a day.
	But I don't detect any... How would I?
	But I don't detect any lack or decline in respect to the concept of The war is dead now.
	No, no.
	But yeah, I agree with you.
	But the figures, as you mentioned, for recruitment are horrific.
	I mean, the Air Force, what they published last week, it's the most shambolic numbers
	they've seen since the Air Force was created in 47.
	I mean, just atrocious.
	Well, if you want to discourage enlistment, just put up a picture of the admiral or whatever
	his name is.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	Levine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look, I want to be clear.
	I'm not hostile to transgender people.
	That's not the point.
	I have some cousins.
	I have two cousins who are in that category.
	It's a terribly stressful thing for them.
	But you're right, it's not the point.
	That's not what the armed forces are there for.
	They say to prepare for war, and if necessary, kill the enemy.
	That's it.
	If you want peace, prepare for war.
	Yep, yep, civis patria parabellum.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Well, you're, okay, well you think that there's a substantial chance that the president may
	get a conviction on one or two counts, don't you?
	Ninety-five percent.
	95%.
	I think the idea that it's a hung jury or a mistrial is a 5% possibility right now, sadly.
	Yeah, well that's pretty much what Byron York said.
	I saw him on the internet this morning.
	I don't know.
	I would have hoped for better.
	I watched the jury walk in.
	Eight of them were white women in their thirties and I know who they voted for.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Alright guys, I'm going to read something again at the top here, then I'll do the Angel Tree without the audio, and then I'll mention the Politico headline and ask Conrad to react to that.
	And you also said you want to maybe use Schumer here?
	Yeah, if we have time after the Politico headline.
	Okay, but you said Angel Tree at the top first?
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to read something first, and then I'm going to go to Angel Tree, and then I'm going to mention Politico.
	Impeachment and conviction of fake news.
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	We are back with the author of the latest work that must be added to
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	Written by Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, let's get to the story which has caused a little bit of a stir on the left this morning.
	There's something called the Politico Playbook.
	That is meant to be the Bible for the left every morning.
	And the one article that was listed there is the following this early, early Tuesday morning.
	Quote, Dems in full-blown freak out over Biden.
	I guess they should be, but the fact that Politico is openly writing about that, isn't that telling?
	I suspect, now I'm the last person who could masquerade as an authority on the inner workings of the Democratic Party, but I suspect that, and there have been some other signs along the same lines.
	Pieces in the New York Times, for example, about alarm in that party about the status of the Biden campaign and so forth.
	I suspect they're preparing A last-ditch effort to dump the president and the vice president at the convention.
	As I understand it, if the Democratic National Committee determines that the nominee has to be changed, they can do it.
	Now, I suspect it would be a terribly disruptive thing to do, but they are Let me put it this way.
	If they were trailing to Ronald Reagan, which they did, of course, or George Bush, either George Bush, which they also did, that would be one thing.
	But as we know, Trump completely spooks them.
	They knew Reagan, and they knew the Bushes, and while they would obviously rather win, they could assimilate with reasonable Sanity.
	Defeat by Reagan or the Bushes.
	But Trump is like putting out an owl when there are crows around.
	I mean, they just go completely mad.
	And so in those circumstances, I think we should not rule out even extreme acts of hysteria if there's no sign of Biden closing the gap between I mean, we're entering June on the weekend.
	But the idea that seemingly their strategy this morning outside the courtroom is to roll out a hackneyed actor who detests President Trump and Robert De Niro is going to save them, they seem to have lost the plot, Lord Black.
	In fairness to Robert De Niro, he was a very good actor.
	But politically, I'm sorry, this is beyond a Hail Mary pass.
	No, no, no.
	It's far beyond it.
	I'm trying to think of a football equivalent.
	Here I think they're trying to hide the football.
	So what does this mean?
	Does it mean that there's nobody with any strategic sense left within the party?
	They think this is a response?
	I think you've got... They're in a kind of state of suspense here.
	Normally, the incumbent president already having accumulated the delegates needed for renomination, whether he's leading the polls or not, is unambiguously the head of the party, and you back him, you hope he wins, and you give it your best to help him win.
	Say Gerald Ford in 1976, he was trailing Carter and ultimately lost very narrowly, but everyone accepted.
	Including the Reagan people, who had a good campaign against him.
	He's the nominee, and let's help him, and let's hope he gets there.
	But here, partly because the administration has been so unsuccessful in most of the main policy areas, partly because the president himself is so unprepossessing nowadays in his physical and mental limitations, And also partly because they're so utterly hysterical and frenzied about Trump as if he was Godzilla or something.
	Oh, we lost him.
	What happened there?
	In the meantime, you can read his article in the New York Sun.
	The website is ConradMBlack.com or on Twitter at ConradMBlack.
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	All righty.
	Killer Mike's mic's off.
	The RuPaul show is showing off getting a double mastectomy.
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	Oh Holding it in a plastic bag for the world to see.
	Just showing it off.
	Self-mutilation has become acceptable rather than treating it for what it really is, which is a mental illness.
	RuPaul is a brand that not only promotes drag shows and now self-mutilation, they also create children's toys.
	Using the same brand.
	Is this really the type of product you want to support?
	Seeing something like this like brings me back to this state of like hopelessness when I would self mutilate and I did it in private and just to see them like almost Like, making fun of it.
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	So there's a senator from West Virginia called Shelley Capito who revealed something about
	how the Democrats work in a press conference and you need to hear it.
	Cut 15.
	Well, I wanted to bring to everybody's attention something that doesn't get much attention.
	And you've heard the term, follow the money.
	So I looked up, where did follow the money?
	I thought it was from a Tom Cruise movie, but it wasn't.
	It was from Watergate.
	And follow the money is what they did in Watergate.
	And we saw what happened.
	So my young staffer, who's very bright and I see him over there, Adam Pack, followed the money.
	And the money is from the so-called Inflation Reduction Act.
	So in the name of green and environmental justice, there's over $40 billion that are going to be granted out through the EPA.
	So, with this great research that was done, what was discovered that in December, The EPA granted $50 million to an organization called Climate Justice Alliance.
	So we went to the website of Climate Justice Alliance.
	This is what we found on the website.
	That our taxpayer dollars are going to organizations such as this.
	This at the bottom is a picture of the bulldozer that went through the fence when Hamas attacked Israel on October the 7th.
	They have a rendering on their website that says decolonize Palestine and it has a picture of that same Bulldozer going through that fence.
	If you dig deeper, they want to defund the police, defund the military.
	Either them or their affiliates want to have very radical, drastic initiatives that I think are anti-American.
	Jeff, I've never heard of that, Senator.
	Why is she revealing the fact that the Biden administration is using the EPA to funnel tens of millions of dollars to organizations that are anti-American?
	Why is she doing this now?
	I don't understand that part either.
	I have no idea who she was before this either.
	But it'd be nice if some other people were talking about this, and I bet there's a bunch of other organizations like that too.
	How come conservatives never do this?
	How come we never spend tens of millions of dollars to political organizations on our side?
	I don't get that, and you know that's not the only group that they're giving money to.
	Of course not!
	I reckon it's probably billions of dollars.
	Exactly, exactly.
	That's why we lose.
	All right, we need to get somebody on this show.
	Let's do a deep dive, Jeff, on somebody who can talk to that issue, because that needs to be a bigger story.
	Let's go to Dave, Arizona, line three.
	Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka.
	Yeah.
	Happy warrior Trump train dittos from State 48.
	We started the Trump trains here in Phoenix.
	I know, but what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Yeah, so I want to thank you again for standing up and going to the courtroom.
	I'm shocked that more members of the gelded old pathetic party don't do the same.
	But I'm just still curious, when are we, the people, going to stand up?
	Because clearly elected representatives, especially in the gelded old pathetic GOP party, do not share our values.
	They will not stand in the gap for us.
	So I'm not sure what it's going to take.
	But what does that mean?
	When are Americans going to stand up?
	Can you explain what that means, Dave?
	Because I hear this a lot, but people aren't very specific.
	Well, OK, so for our Trump train this weekend, we had 18 cars.
	I'm shocked that it wasn't 93 miles long like the one I put together in 2020.
	I'm just shocked that more people aren't to the point of actually standing in the streets.
	And a show of force to let our elected officials know that as our servants, they are not doing the will of we, the people.
	Well, the trouble is, conservatives don't really live political lives.
	The difference between us and the Democrats is the Democrats, if they're awake, they're being political.
	We just live our lives, run our businesses, go to work, look after our families, and we think that every two years for 15 minutes at the polling station, then that'll be fine and we'll save the nation.
	No, we have to understand that if that's what you think, is going to save us, then you are sorely, sorely mistaken.
	You have to get politically involved, and you have to do it.
	Five months.
	That's all you've got to save the nation.
	Can you get politically involved, please, for five months?
	I mean, does America matter to you, or doesn't it?
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	It's also the two-year anniversary of Uvalde.
	Of course, this is your district.
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	You were involved in the effort to pass gun legislation and the aftermath of it.
	It's also one of the reasons that inspired this primary challenge against you.
	Do you regret that vote at all in any way?
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	because he's a scumbag Rhino There's a person called Tony Gonzalez who thinks he gets to be the congressman from Texas's 23rd district forever.
	Let's listen to the man who called Matt Gaetz a pedophile doubling down.
	Cut five!
	Matt Gaetz and Bob Goode, you call them scumbags.
	You still stand by that?
	I think you, more than anyone, know the type of people that we are dealing with here in Washington.
	And some of them are scumbags.
	I mentioned a couple of them.
	There's probably a laundry list of folks.
	You care to mention any more?
	Yes, yes I do.
	But not today.
	I'm a quote-unquote Republican and I go on CNN to call people scumbags, but I don't use their names because I'm such a coward.
	I wonder why he's so worried.
	Let's ask the man who's got him worried.
	He's rather busy.
	He's a friend of ours.
	Brandon Herrera!
	Welcome back to America First!
	Hey, good to talk to you, Seb.
	How are you doing?
	I'm good.
	What are you doing today, Brandon?
	I am, as we speak, I am out at polling locations grilling with some of our veteran friends and just having a good time.
	We're turning this into a little cookout here, just saying hi to people as they're coming into the polls.
	And I got to tell you, the energy is really good.
	A Texas cookout?
	Why didn't you tell me I would have been there, buddy?
	Well, man, I'll invite you next time when we beat the Democrats in November.
	Well, compared to the primary, the turnout is relatively low, which is a good thing.
	What's the energy like? What's the turnout like?
	Brandon Herrera, aka the AK guy, from Texas' 23rd district.
	What's it looking like?
	Well, compared to the primary, the turnout is relatively low, which is a good thing.
	There were a lot of people that were enthusiastic to show up to support Trump on March 5th.
	But now, this is just a runoff, which is a very low turnout election historically,
	which is what we're seeing here through early voting, through turnout here at the polling locations,
	which is good for us, because the only people showing up are the people who are pissed off
	off and want change.
	They're not going along with the Uniparty line and they want to get Tony out.
	Well, let's talk about that Uniparty line.
	I've got one more cut from Tony Gonzalez, who loves to go on CNN as a Republican.
	It's a little bit weird.
	You're a Second Amendment champion.
	You know a thing or two about firearms.
	Tony, my gosh, he's spewing garbage.
	Cut four.
	It's also the two-year anniversary of Uvalde.
	Of course, this is your district.
	You were involved in the effort to pass gun legislation and the aftermath of it.
	It's also one of the reasons that inspired this primary challenge against you.
	Do you regret that vote at all in any way?
	What I've learned is this.
	You can do all the things that they want you to do and it will never be enough.
	I will never bow down to these people.
	I will always do what I think is right.
	The Safer Community Act has prevented over 500 school shootings from occurring.
	Hang on, Brandon.
	You're a gun guy.
	You understand the Second Amendment.
	Tony Gonzalez has prevented 500 school shootings.
	Is he smoking out the Biden's crack pipe?
	I think they must be sharing it since he's hiding currently in the same basement that Biden is.
	Uh, saying that the Bipartisan Xavier Communities Act, which by the way, he didn't even remember the name of the bill.
	Uh, saying that that prevented 500 school shootings is like saying two years ago, my wife got her tubes tied, so we prevented 460 children from being born.
	The math doesn't math.
	The math doesn't math.
	That sounds like Biden.
	All right, what's your final message on this runoff day for Brandon Herrera, candidate for Texas's 23rd congressional district?
	You can follow him at the AKguy.
	I know you're super busy.
	You need to get back to soliciting all those patriots.
	BrandonHerreraForCongress.com.
	Final word.
	Well, you know what?
	We've had a lot of last-minute support.
	Chip Roy came in for us this morning on Steve Bannon.
	We've had a lot of great people coming in for us in the last couple days because this is such an essential election, where the people of West Texas get to decide whether or not they're going to let the Uniparty money buy this election.
	We've got $10 million being spent against us, which is insane money for a runoff.
	But you know what?
	It doesn't matter because we have the grassroots, the ground support, we have the enthusiasm.
	At the end of the day, that's the one thing that his dirty money can't buy.
	So if you go out to the polls today, you have a decision to be able to send a big middle finger to DC.
	One that I am happy to personally hand deliver.
	And if you win, first interview is on our show, right Brandon?
	You have a scouts honor.
	God bless.
	More power to you.
	God bless.
	Alright, let's squeeze in one more call Doug from California, then the next segment we'll go to Greg and Joe.
	Doug, what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Oh, Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
	Hey, I've been listening with a little bit of dismay as I listen to commentator after commentator hang their hopes on these two lawyers that are on the Trump jury here.
	I mean, it'd be nice to think that they'll be impartial, but Benny Willis is a lawyer.
	Bragg is a lawyer.
	Supposed to be.
	Cohen was a lawyer.
	You want them on the jury?
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, it's a bit weird that people have been talking about the two attorneys on The Jury.
	It's like, what, suddenly we like attorneys?
	Wasn't Hunter... Hey, Jeff, isn't Hunter Biden, before he got into crack pipes and illegal gun purchases, isn't he an attorney?
	Yeah, he was a good one.
	Oh yeah, he made so much money!
	Yeah, a hundred grand a month.
	Wow!
	Yeah, so being an attorney, not exactly an automatic gold star, I'm putting my hopes not on the eight white women in their thirties I watched walk into the courtroom, because they're from New York and I think we know who they voted for, but allegedly there's a male immigrant from Ireland who's a naturalized citizen Maybe the Irish guy isn't woke.
	We shall see.
	Right now, the prosecution is closing their final arguments.
	Maybe President Trump will walk out of court any moment.
	And if that's the case, we shall pipe the audio, that crummy audio from that corridor, the only place they let him speak, live across the nation on our show.
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	Just titles for Black and Herrera.
	Herrera, Tony Gonzalez, and his... What did he call it?
	Black Money?
	No, what did he call it?
	Dirty Money?
	I was leaning more towards the 500 shooting thing because that's just so ridiculous.
	Yeah, but how do you get that into a title?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That would have to mean, it's only been two years, that we already averaged 250 school shootings a year.
	A year, right.
	And everyone was stopped.
	Right.
	I think it's dirty money.
	Yeah.
	Tony Gonzalez and his dirty money.
	Stopping Tony Gonzalez and his dirty money.
	I really hope he loses.
	I'm gonna be so upset if he wins.
	So his logic is what?
	That it's good in the primary to have good turnout, but in the runoff, it's better to have low turnout?
	Is that what he said?
	I don't... Yeah, it always is.
	If you're the candidate that has more enthusiasm.
	Yeah, the grassroots, the far... For conservatives, that's the far right.
	For liberals, that's the far left.
	Yeah, these like... Because it's basically a special election now.
	It's not a regularly scheduled.
	So yeah, those generally favor the challenger rather than the incumbent.
	And again, there's a lot of runoffs against incumbents today.
	There's the House Speaker's race, Katrina Pearson's race.
	House Speaker?
	Dade Phelan, of the Texas State House.
	Oh, Texas!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And John O'Shea over in District 12.
	Any last cuts you want to use here?
	Music Music
	Now more than ever, we're short of workers.
	We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to.
	The only way we're going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers, and all of them.
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	Chuck Schumer, the most senior Democrat in the Senate.
	He just said it.
	Let's go to Joe in Illinois.
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	What do you want to say?
	You've been waiting.
	Uh, I'm from a 10 person Catholic family.
	Okay.
	And I don't need polls to tell me what the Democrats are thinking.
	Okay.
	Uh, and even my, uh, Democrat is three to five over here and, and they're, um, you know, you're kind of losing me.
	So, so you said to Jeff that your Democrat relatives are freaking out, right?
	Good.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	It's a pretty bad line.
	Greg in Arizona.
	Greg!
	Sorry about that.
	Love to challenge the liberals from time to time, and one thing that finally worked pretty well was a simple phrase I made up over the weekend.
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	Doing anything else is cringe.
	Philosophy, history, religion, ethnicity, art, culture, anthropology, and the other profound things that people look back upon centuries later are all taboo or hopelessly pretentious in our culture.
	Anyone who talks about meaning or deeper questions is mocked by the Karens.
	This is why we're living in a society that's literally committing suicide publicly.
	Very hard to disagree with that statement that, on the surface, sounds very harsh, but it is an indictment, a self-indictment, of the greatest civilization the world has ever seen.
	And it's the kind of clarity that has made The author of those words, from the What If Alt Hissed channel, such a sensation and why we are so delighted to have him as a regular guest on our show here on America First.
	Rudyard Lynch, welcome back to the Salem News Network.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	It's a pleasure.
	Now, I try to incorporate questions from two or three of your videos.
	On one of our sessions, because they're so engrossing.
	But the one you dropped just a few days ago, I think we could discuss for several hours, despite its deceptive title, which has to do with Karens.
	We'll explain what Karens are later, if you're not familiar with the concept, although everybody has met a Karen or witnessed one in action, especially inside a restaurant.
	But let's just start with that clip I took from the video.
	How did it get to be cringe, passé, negative, to be interested in meaning and what the meaning of being a human is?
	How did that happen?
	Let's start with that, Radhyad.
	I'm laughing because in my list of future life experiences, being on a show like this, talking about the anthropology of Karens, was not on my scoreboard of future experiences.
	I thought you were good at predicting the future, Rajad!
	Are you betting against God?
	Did you just lose?
	When you bet against God, you lose more than you win.
	But I'm happy to be here.
	The world often is paradoxical, and the irony is that spiritual reality is the opposite of material reality, in that we inhabit this world partly as actual physical beings and partly as spiritual forces that have to live through our world.
	And those things aren't in perfect contradiction, in that they do inhabit the same physical area.
	But at the same time, there is material reality, and then there's how you deal with it on a mental basis.
	And oftentimes they're the exact same things, in which something hard in material like this, this is how we live and process the world.
	And that your survival as a physical being is contingent upon food and and reproduction and survival.
	But the reality, and one of the great discoveries of our time that no one has really teased out, is that science has discovered that material things are not as important for happiness as anyone over the last couple centuries would think.
	Where besides getting out of extreme poverty, we found the most important factors for happiness are religion and community.
	And So, when Christians would talk about God's truth, it's kind of hard to explain in modern terms, but there is this sense of moral clarity and moral truth that comes from spiritual understanding, and it's difficult to explain rationally, but it's not something that's rational.
	The further you move away from that, the more your mind starts to deteriorate.
	I have a book I love a lot, written by an Orthodox theologian called Nihilism.
	It says that once you step away from God, you are on the path to nihilism, because if you believe the world has an inherent meaning, that means you indirectly or indirectly believe in God.
	If you don't believe the world has meaning, then you don't.
	What our society has done is we have chosen to prioritize the material conditions over the spiritual, and then what happens over time is that we end up resenting the spiritual side.
	Yes.
	And our current elite—there's a great book called The Secular Age by Charles Taylor that talks about this.
	our current elite needs the spiritual to not exist because then if there were higher moral truths that would invalidate their power because everything they draw their right to rule from having physical power and so if things exist beyond the material then it's partly the elite doesn't want things to exist beyond the material because then they would be Then that would invalidate their right to rule.
	And I could talk about this more, but religious people are significantly harder to oppress than a non-religious people.
	But the second reason is that, I think this is a thread the Bible touches on really well, is human nature is not rational.
	And it's very easy to get humans to hate goodness itself.
	And if you operate with the view of human nature being rational, You think that why would anyone ever hate goodness?
	But with humans being the emotional fallible beings we are, it's very easy for people to end up hating goodness itself because they themselves do not embody it and they grow resentful of it.
	But if you look at From the beginning of the denial of the transcendental and the focus on the materialism, when Hegel was flipped, who was actually a Christian, and his dialectic would eventually take you to knowledge of God, when Marx flips it and turns it on his head with the lefty Galians,
	That was a long time ago.
	That was more than a century ago.
	Can you explain why it is that those who fully embraced and propagated this concept that only the material matters and there is nothing transcendental?
	Why or how they're able to ignore the fact that more than a hundred years later, anybody who follows that path in life is depressed, will consider committing suicide, ends up maybe with, you know, lots of material goods, but they mean nothing to him on his deathbed.
	How is that coterie, that community, incapable of recognizing the empirical data of what they have wrought?
	There's a saying that goes around the world, and it's something along the lines of, a fool should not open his mouth, because only by opening his mouth, the others realize he is a fool.
	Yet, he is too much of a fool to realize that.
	And I mean, there's the great rule that if you're foolish enough to not believe in one thing, you don't realize how foolish you are.
	And our Our entire society has been built in opposition to those principles, because it's easier to get power if you don't believe there are moral standards, because you just do it.
	And so it's a couple different things.
	And you ask a lot of great questions, which is why I love being on this show.
	But One of which is it's easier to get power with that belief structure.
	The second is that you're not held to any moral standards.
	And so you can behave in a much more cynical way.
	And if you look at how communists took over societies, they almost always had a really bad faith maneuver that gave them an advantage.
	And the third is that we live in an incredibly wealthy society.
	And if people don't have a direct incentive, to, to follow difficult moral principles, they just won't.
	And fourth, the scientific revolution, where we derived such incredible benefit from science that It became easy to think that we could just remove religion and the changes implicit in the Industrial Revolution were so vast that people just, it's like they're drunk, where all the wealth and the power and the stuff, that stuff, it made us forget the fallibility of the human condition because we were drunk off power and money.
	Wow, yeah.
	There is, if there's a denial of the transcendental, then there is no moral compass, therefore one can do whatever one wishes, and that also means you can be incredibly cynical and exploitative when it comes to the retention of and the acquisition of power.
	We're talking to Radyard Lynch, host of the superlative YouTube channel What If Alt Hissed.
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	What's the history podcast called, Rudyard?
	We run a podcast called History 102, and I work with Eric Torenberg, who's a guy in the tech world, and each week we spend an hour explaining different historic topics.
	So we've so far, we have 11 episodes, and we've explained the fall of Rome, ancient India, the world wars, the American Civil War, and it's on my second channel, and so if you guys want to learn history, that's what my second channel's for.
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	Let's talk about a word you used right at the beginning, Radyar, which is community.
	Thanks to your good offices and Marek, who works with you on your channel.
	You've introduced me to some of your friends, very smart individuals.
	You're building a community of people who care and want to save Judeo-Christian civilization.
	But let's drill down on this, because I'd like to hear what the content of that word means for you, why it has Not be nurtured and what it should be today.
	So talk to us about the relationship between Humanity human beings and their need for community.
	What is it?
	Humans biologically need community because It's just how we evolved as a tribal people and I And people who didn't have good communities died.
	And that's become a major social issue because, just due to industrial civilization, there's removed a lot of incentives for cooperation inside community.
	Unpack it.
	When it works, how does it work?
	And how did we denude ourselves of it?
	A lot of these processes happen organically because that's what the society demands.
	In that, let's say if you're in the Iron Age, you need to have a certain community to survive, and you need to have people to help you grow things, and you need to have a community to support you against foreign invaders or to build up a wall again.
	Once you remove that, partly through external safety, a large part due to industrialization that moves people to cities, it's a lot more difficult to maintain a community inside an urban organization where the community is so large.
	People will work in a different area, they'll go to school in a different area, and cities have never had replaceable birth rates over history, partly due to that.
	Because once you hit a critical mass, you stop having the ability to have communities.
	So let's... Or they become so large that they become multi-causal.
	Right.
	But from my experience, I'm in my 50s, so I grew up in London, West London, in a suburb.
	It was a city of 10 million people when I was a child.
	And there was a sense of community.
	It wasn't quite, you know, the village, but When I came home from my school, which was five miles away, I took a bus home, I'd get on my bicycle and with the four kids who I knew in my street, literally I was on my bicycle till the sun went down.
	So that was, you know, my community.
	What has happened to that?
	You talk about helicopter parents in your latest video.
	What disassembled modern community in that environment?
	The cause I spoke about before, that often takes a long time to play out, where industrialization occurred over several generations.
	And so you can see it take a certain amount of time to have urban, to have the breakdown of rural cultural formation to happen.
	But to speak further about your point, another reason is screens, where People my age, and I'm 22, they spend seven to eight hours a day just on their phones.
	And that becomes a huge issue, because if you're on your phone, you're not out doing stuff.
	And I don't fault the people involved, because as a society, we create lots of incentives to be addicted to your phone in very few ways to not be addicted to your phone, in that These phones are designed to constantly hook you like a drug, yet at the same time there's no support groups to not use phones.
	They have students use their phones and computers in class, they use it for work.
	So you have the breakdown of rural social norms, you have You have the screens and our phones.
	And the third thing is you have mass anxiety.
	And this goes into a topic we discussed last time on this podcast, that being mouse utopia, which is the idea that we are experiencing mass anxiety today and people are losing the ability to deal with each other.
	And this is such a big topic that I don't really want to get into.
	No.
	Unless you'd like to, but we've spoken about this before.
	But anxiety among young people is really horrifying, and I don't think a lot of people realize how bad it is.
	And a big reason for that is helicopter parenting, in which you have an entire generation of kids, and John Haidt just wrote a book about this, who don't have the ability to deal with the world because they were guarded their entire life, and children need to learn skills over the course of their life.
	in which they can interact with the world.
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	And fundamentally, those skills are as much, if not vastly more important than just book smarts or intelligence.
	Because We live in a complicated, scary world where you have to actually face reality.
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	Everybody has to subscribe to your YouTube channel, Rudyard.
	But let's talk about the title of your latest video, which has to do with Karens.
	You know, a butt of jokes on SNL.
	But what is a Karen?
	And why are they such a threat to our civilization, Rudyard?
	Yeah, Karen is an annoying older woman who tries to use petty force to dominate people.
	And that sounds silly, but in our society, we have no protections against people using deceit and verbal ability for social gain.
	We just don't really have a term for it.
	But There's a term developed called GSR, or Gossiping, Shaming, and Rallying, and these are relational warfare.
	And so a lot of you would know Karens for different stuff, like, for example, calling the police on seeing your friend's children play outside, or saying that the salmon ceviche at the local restaurant is not warm enough, even though salmon ceviche is normally served cold.
	Just ridiculous stuff.
	And Oftentimes in silly things there's profound symbolism, and Karens are objectively silly, but I said that they were dangerous because they symbolize a couple of different issues in the West.
	The first being the bureaucracy, in which the I've said before that, and this is something where I read a lot of older authors, and around World War II, and this is something Sebastian and I spoke about before, this is one of those authors.
	There's a bunch of different authors.
	I'm going to be mentioning four of them in the next segment, but carry on.
	You get there, but all those great authors who were trying to develop a science of history, they said that bureaucracy was the greatest danger to the world.
	And these were authors who lived through the world's wars.
	They saw the Nazis, they saw Stalinism, they saw the trenches of the Somme, and all of them agreed bureaucracy was dangerous.
	And it's a 40-minute video, so I won't go in all the depth here.
	But the point I make is that Karens are in an incestuous relationship with the bureaucracy,
	in which the Karens, every single thing they do appeals to the bureaucracy to extend their
	force.
	And it's like a toxic marriage, where you have two partners that don't like each other,
	but they derive enough benefit to stay married.
	And let's just stop here for a second, the reason the Karens are powerful and can help
	the bureaucracy stay in power is because they don't have to do any of the things they had
	to do in prior millennia to survive, correct?
	Can you phrase that in another way, please?
	So they had to appeal to man, they had to be in a positive relationship with their mate.
	The comfort of modern society means they don't have to do the things they had to do in the past to survive and to thrive.
	The faceless bureaucracy will look after them.
	Yes, you could view our entire society as an alliance between the bureaucracy and women.
	Because if you look at voting patterns among young people, young men are three to one conservative, young women are three to one liberal or progressive.
	And It's a useful alliance because women are by nature insecure and weak compared to the threats of the outside world or men.
	And so the bureaucracy can offer women stability and money through welfare and abdication of responsibility through abortions and abdication from shame, in exchange for protecting women and effectively becoming a husband and providing the things that in a previous era of history the husband would have done.
	So like protection, economic stability, validation, all of those things.
	And in exchange, the state gets their Unwavering support.
	And so society could completely fall apart, as is happening, and it would still get their unwavering support due to that implicit deal that was made.
	And there was an additional aspect that you mentioned, that the consumerism, the materialism of the modern age, is basically funded by the activities of the female Karen class.
	Yeah.
	85% of consumer spending is done by women.
	And so if you're an advertiser, that's the demographic to appeal to.
	And this is something advertisers have been doing for a century.
	The guy who invented, this is a strange tangent, but the guy who invented public relations was the nephew of Sigmund Freud.
	Bernays.
	You're talking about Bernays.
	Exactly.
	And Bernays invented public relations in the advertising industry.
	And then his nephew, in turn, is the guy who made Netflix.
	So, Sigmund Freud, Bernays, Netflix.
	Probably good genes in that family.
	I don't want to get off on a tangent here, but how significant?
	If you had to rate, you know, one to ten megatons, ten being the most destructive, how destructive was Freud for Western civilization?
	It's hard to do this with thinkers, where you have to ask, is the thinker themselves pushing these trends, or do trends look for thinkers who approve of them?
	Well, let's just say the ideas of Freud.
	I'd say a 6 or 7 out of 10, because Freud's entire theory of psychology is the abdication of responsibility.
	And Freud did do some smart stuff.
	When you look back on thinkers, we often forget how pivotal their ideas were.
	And Freud invented the concept of the subconscious in psychology.
	So I give him credit for there.
	But if you look at modern therapy, it's useful for certain circumstances, people with certain conditions.
	But if you look at the rate rises in modern therapy, and compare it to mental health issues.
	The amount of therapists have skyrocketed recently, as have the mental health issues.
	And so what that suggests to me is that our current paradigm for mental health is not
	useful.
	And if you also, I mean, the thing with Freud is you look at the hippie movement.
	Man, we should just smoke weed and sleep around and be degenerate.
	They were operating off Freud's logic, because in Freud's system, that creates psychological stability.
	And I think there is some use to that for just blowing off steam.
	But if you make that your lifestyle, You know, you're going to end up with really bad mental health.
	And this is why young leftists have four times as many mental health issues as any other demographic, because they took these ideas that weren't good and kept running with them.
	And there's that viral clip last month I think it was, I think it was Abigail Schreier on Joe Rogan and I think it was one of these counter culture authors who said, talking about your problems Every week for an hour and wallowing them doesn't necessarily solve your problem.
	So talk therapy as a concept doesn't necessarily always bring you mental health.
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	All right, let's go back in time about a hundred years and listen to what some very wise men said.
	Play the card.
	The most dangerous thing in the world was the rise of bureaucracy.
	Keep in mind, these were people who lived through the world's wars.
	They all agreed that even more so than those giant wars, the Soviets or the Nazis, that the rise of the bureaucracy was the factor that put Western and global civilization in the most danger.
	Now this was music to my ears, to hear this, to hear what our guest said in his latest video, which is titled about Karens, but this is the most important part and I'm trying to get Radja to actually do a whole video or several on this.
	Talk to us, if you would, please, about Carol Quigley, Spengler, Toynbee, and what these gentlemen were agreed upon, which really seems to be the correct diagnosis for where we are today.
	A lot of the authors I pull from are from the World War II period.
	And there's a bunch of conspiracy theories about me, one of which is that I only read authors before 1960.
	And that's not true.
	I do read a lot of modern authors, but I do derive value from those older authors.
	Because in many cases, as you mentioned, they write about things that people don't write about today.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they have a degree of clarity that's missing today, in which we kind of lost the ability to think critically in the 1960s, where everything became magical thinking, where I want this to be true, and thus it's true.
	And I say that the 19th century historical system, that was one in which you had these broad, sweeping generalizations, and they were good at understanding broad scopes, But they weren't that detail focused.
	And modern histories are incredibly autistic and anal in that they obsess over data and sources, but they'll often miss the forest for the trees.
	And so around the World Wars, you kind of got the best of both worlds.
	And so this is Carol Quigley in Tragedy and Hope.
	You can tell that I loved this book a lot.
	And this is one of those brilliant history books I've ever read.
	And it's a history of the world of the period of the early 20th century, and it's
	a civilizational history in which it talks about
	what happened to Western civilization.
	And it's called tragedy and hope because the tragedy is the world wars and the loss of freedom that went with them and writing in the 60s He said his hope was the creation of a new spirituality and a lot of these authors Agreed on many different topics and I brought a couple of them out.
	This is Carol Quigley's book on the evolution of civilizations this is Spengler who was a big writer of that time period and I The author that I really love, that I wish more people read, and I don't want to make his book prices go up too much, is Amaury de Réacourt, who was a French writer of the same time period.
	I think he's been slapped on.
	I think he's the most brilliant writer.
	But all of these authors agreed that the greatest danger to world and Western civilization was the bureaucracy.
	And they were writing around World War II when the bureaucracy took over the West and they said that if that wasn't stopped it would destroy Western civilization forever and remove everything we love.
	Why?
	Explain why bureaucracy that our civilization created is in fact the dagger pointed at our heart.
	My friend, one of my friends has a saying that Small changes, small differences over large amounts of time, over large amounts of people can mean everything.
	And we don't really think that way anymore, where we think, oh, if we change some laws, if we do blank, blank, blank, it'll work out.
	But the reality is small changes at vital moments can absolutely change everything.
	And so every major civilization goes through a period of decline.
	It's almost a natural law.
	And so these historians have looked for the kinds of factors that would precipitate civilizational decline, and the biggest one is co-option of the society by a single elite class, who then use it to push their class interest.
	And so this happened in Greco-Roman civilization with the slave owners, it happened in China with the bureaucracy, it happened in India with the priest class, and They were worried that the bureaucracy would take over Western civilization, and
	One of my favorite political books is The Leviathan and Its Enemies by Samuel Francis.
	That book is an examination of how every single aspect of modern society is an attempt by the bureaucracy to take over.
	You could look at leftism as a religion for the bureaucracy to take over society, and that everything the left says gives the bureaucrats more power.
	If you want to look at If you want to look at universities, if you want to look at politics, if you want to look at regulation, if you want to look at the media, every single thing pushes the bureaucracy as a demographic.
	And the bureaucracy's self-interest is to make things easier and manageable so that they can manage it.
	So the bureaucrats hate creatives, they hate adventurers, they hate entrepreneurs, and they hate change because change makes their own jobs more difficult.
	But if you look at the West since World War II, We have declined in all those things.
	Our art is worse.
	We make less inventions.
	Our economy is growing slower.
	The West gave up its military dominance through its colonies.
	Every single one of these Has gone to decline because the bureaucracy is not incentivized for growth.
	And so it creates this long, slow burn that happens on a gradual enough basis that people don't notice it.
	But that's what makes it the scariest.
	And when you say, and look, having worked inside the White House, seeing the bureaucracy sabotage the will of the American people on a daily basis, yeah, you don't have to convince me, but when you say we have to destroy it, we need some structure to run our countries.
	So is it denuding them of their lack of accountability?
	What does winning this look like?
	I was watching the Lotus Cedar podcast, which is a podcast that Sargon of Akkad's company has, and one of the things, the point they brought out that was fascinating is that today a majority of the British economy is Created and driven by the government.
	Yeah in a hundred years ago when Britain was a global spanning Empire it was 8% and so what that means is that Britain was capable of building all these battleships or conquering half of Africa and all that stuff where the government was only 8% of the economy and there's this meme where it shows an image of America 1910 with all the beautiful roads and the beautiful government buildings, and they said this was all built by a country without income tax.
	And so it is possible to have a society that's functioning with significantly lower overhead costs.
	And you'll just look at Elon Musk, who Who cut Twitter staff by 90% and didn't change functionality that much.
	My personal belief is that we should replace the bureaucracy with AI, where a lot of these are pretty mechanical tasks.
	You could have an AI be, you could cut out 90% of the workers of the Department of Motor Vehicles and use computers instead.
	And that would cut the costs by a vast amount.
	And you could also I mean, another part of this is just removing the ease through which bureaucratic bloat occurs.
	Because as of now, bureaucracies can just write rules for regulating certain industries.
	And the great irony is that America's constitution was established to have a balance of powers between the executive, the legislature, the states, the judiciary, different social classes, and they never thought we would have a bureaucracy.
	So the bureaucracy is the only demographic in society in which it can expand without any countervening force.
	And so you have to establish mechanisms through which bureaucratic bloat becomes less easy.
	Will you come in with the Destiny Cup, please, Eric?
	There was no hot war going on in Ukraine.
	There was still the civil war in the southeast.
	That war has been raging for, like, ten years.
	The conflict, you think there was a total... Didn't those Minsk agreements last for, like, months?
	No.
	Minsk I and II?
	No.
	Look, I have a lot of family in Ukraine.
	It's a region I understand very well.
	Post the Minsk Accords, there was no hot war going on.
	For how long?
	Well, until the invasion, basically.
	Until the invasion.
	It was pretty stable.
	Now, I'm not saying there wasn't the occasional people... But it was broadly... There was a ceasefire in place.
	People were not killing each other en masse.
	I can tell you.
	I'd have to go and... He's out of his depth.
	Yes, he is out of his depth.
	But I will give him credit.
	That is Stephen Burnell III, who goes by the non-deplume of destiny, who debated me on the Trigonometry podcast recently.
	I have to ask you, because I'm curious, we haven't discussed this offline or privately, you are clearly a man who loves our civilization, a patriot.
	Bernelli may be a hack and a propagandist, but he's basically the only person who will debate conservatives.
	Why does the left, if they have all the institutions, they have the bureaucracy, why aren't they prepared to debate us?
	You've done this a few times, you've been on other people's podcasts, what's your theory?
	Imagine there's a feast, and it's a war in the Bronze Age.
	And after winning the battle, they all start eating.
	And then after a couple hours, everyone's stuffed and they're drunk.
	And then that's the perfect time to launch an ambush.
	And that's what's happened to the left.
	And I believe the right will win eventually, because the right is being put under so much pressure that the human capital of the right will end up being better.
	Well, the left has no pressure towards human capital and they have no pressure to be better people.
	And I think of Hassan, who's the biggest leftist streamer.
	Hassan sells a 40, I think it's $40 medicine check.
	He sells this hoodie saying, eat the rich and capitalism is in decay.
	He sells that.
	And that's just ridiculous.
	Hassan has bought a multimillion dollar mansion in Los Angeles while being a socialist.
	Well it's like AOC's ball dress to the Met Gala that said tax the rich and cost... The dress cost $12,000 and the ticket to the Met Gala was $83,000 or something.
	Yes.
	And so the left doesn't really have an incentive to improve and they don't want to debate right-wingers because they got humiliated.
	I think of Vausch who I did a debate with a couple years ago, and Vausch has stopped debating at all as a leftist streamer because he debated Destiny, me, and another guy who said, in that debate, Vausch said water is wet.
	In that debate, Vausch said water isn't wet.
	And so I think that's indicative of it.
	And I look at the thinkers the left has, like Hassan, or Second Thought, or etc.
	And it's very vibes-based.
	It's very, I'm going to do this because my intuitive emotional brain wants me to.
	And if you actually put that under the test, you realize it's a silly worldview.
	I think 100 years ago, 50 years ago, if you put Lennon in a room with you, Sebastian, you and Lennon could have a really brilliant and hard-fought No, no, that's before I'd shoot him.
	Okay, thank you kindly for that, those props there.
	One woman who most definitely is not a Karen, I just wanted to share this with our listeners, she'd be a good debater against any of these scumbags, and her diagnosis is rather good about what's happening in America today.
	Play the card, please, Eric.
	Michelle wants to say she's not picking a fight, but she wants to know why I'm okay voting with someone with 91 felony counts.
	So Michelle, I'm going to give you my answer.
	Ready?
	Because I'm tired.
	I am sick and fucking tired of the way this country looks under Democrat leadership.
	These felony counts don't mean shit to me.
	You know what that means to me?
	That the Democrat Party just want to get him off the campaign trail.
	Because if he was really guilty of anything, he'd be sitting in jail right now.
	And then you have to kind of ask yourself, why now?
	If Donald Trump's businesses were so corrupt, how come he wasn't indicted prior to him becoming president?
	Did you ever ask yourself that question?
	No.
	Because all those people that are calling him corrupt had their collective hands in his pockets prior to him becoming a politician.
	They were all buddy-buddy with him until he became president.
	You see, Donald Trump, out of both candidates, is the only one calling for peace right now.
	Not Joe Biden.
	I'm sick and tired of the way this country looks, Michelle, under Democrat leadership.
	I'm sick and tired of watching the riots in the streets.
	I'm sick and tired of watching our public monuments being defaced and absolutely just taken down and all our history erased.
	I am sick and tired of the indoctrination happening to our college kids and to our high school children, and even younger.
	And you know what I mean by the crazy?
	I'm tired of all of it.
	I am tired of watching over 10 million people be allotted to this country and being dropped into cities to the point where now the cities are having to cut back on programs that minority communities need.
	All to house people here that aren't even legal citizens.
	They're getting handed money, they're getting handed education, healthcare, Housing?
	Do Americans get that?
	No.
	I'm sick and tired of watching this country's border be absolutely decimated by the Democrat Party and them not giving two shits about it.
	I am sick and tired of the politicians and their lip service.
	I am tired of watching politicians go into offices that usually pays about 150 to 200k a year but come out millionaires.
	And yet somehow you want me to think the guy that's got businesses all around the world that employs all sorts of people, black, white, red, handicapped, is somehow corrupt, but the guy in office for 50 plus years who hasn't accomplished shit is somehow a millionaire with zero businesses.
	Definitely not a Karen with a very robust diagnosis for why we are where we are today and why she's supporting President Trump.
	I think we have to tease up our next monthly discussion with a question I think I know what your answer is going to be, but that woman is putting her money on President Trump coming back and saving America.
	Are you an adherent to the great man theory of history or the tough circumstances create great leaders theory?
	I think multiple things can be true at once.
	There are great men, but also tough circumstances can create people, and they play into each other.
	All right.
	That is the short answer to the question.
	I think we will have to discuss those theories and exemplars of them on the next One-on-one with Rudyard Lynch.
	In the meantime, make sure you catch all of his videos on his YouTube site, What If Alt-Hist, and his co-hosting of the History 102 podcast as well.
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	I'm Sebastian Walker former strategist to the 45th Congressional President of the United States, and God willing, if we do our part, the 47th.

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