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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Did the House just ban the Bible with their anti-Semitism bill?

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	And just so you understand, this is the radical left.
	This is a movement from the left, not from the right.
	The right is not your problem, despite what law enforcement likes to say.
	The FBI director said that he worries about the right.
	Now, don't worry about the right.
	The right's fine.
	Worry about the left, because this is a movement from the left.
	These are radical left lunatics.
	And they got to be stopped now because it's going to go on and on and it's going to get worse and worse.
	And, you know, they take over countries, OK?
	And we're not letting them take over the USA.
	We're not letting the radical left morons take over this country.
	You can't let that happen.
	The law enforcement and people at DOJ are going after Donald Trump.
	They ought to look at what's happening in their own offices because you're loaded up with radical left people that want this country to fail.
	And we're not going to let this country fail.
	Thank you very much.
	We're not going to let this country fail.
	You don't have to worry about the right, you have to worry about the left.
	President Trump, you're right, Jeff, that was a superb cut.
	President Trump from Manhattan outside the court this morning at 9am.
	I'm curious, what is the right-wing threat in the world?
	Where is the right-wing threat in America?
	Where are the MAGA hat wearers who are screaming death to America?
	That would be a bit weird if you're wearing a hat that says Make America Great Again.
	Why would you chant death to America?
	Why would you chant Intifada in America as a student of an American college?
	Oh, here we go.
	This is what was happening at UCLA before the police, after waiting how many days, finally rolled in.
	Here's the proof of what I speak.
	Cut six.
	Long live Palestine!
	Long live Intifada!
	Intifada!
	Intifada!
	Long live the Intifada!
	Do you know what an Intifada is?
	It is Arabic for uprising, for rebellion.
	It is used specifically in the context of destroying Israel, which of course is a problem.
	Why?
	Because It's our partner in our civilization, Judeo-Christian civilization.
	Is there a conservative group whose members, publicly with a bullhorn, at rallies, on campuses, screams, rebellion, that says, death to America?
	Name me one.
	Oh, January 6th.
	What happened on January 6th?
	What was it?
	If we believe The narrative of January 6.
	Jeff, what were the protesters going for?
	Was it a rebellion to take over America?
	Or was it an attempt to make sure we actually had representative government?
	Which of the two was it?
	Yeah, because they wanted to actually hear the election challenges that we were all promised days before by Mike Pence and others.
	You mean they didn't want to take over and create a dictatorship and destroy America?
	No.
	They wanted to actually have the way we choose presidents happen the way it should?
	Exactly.
	The way that Mike Pence said 48 hours previously in Georgia, we need to do for the safety of our republic?
	Yeah, he said your voice is going to be heard then.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I've had it with the gaslighting.
	I'm done.
	I'm done.
	There is no conservative threat.
	Really, the only conservative threat to the world, if he's a conservative of any way, shape, or form, is Vladimir Putin.
	Right?
	He's a fascist.
	He's not really a communist.
	He wants just power.
	But anywhere else, no.
	There's Islamofascism, if you're a Muslim, in Iran, if you're a Mullah, if you're in Islamabad, if you're in Pakistan, if you're in Afghanistan, if you're in Kabul.
	But the threat to the world remains from the left.
	What are we witnessing across America?
	Has nothing to do with white supremacy.
	Name me one serious white supremacist.
	Can any one of these cretins, from Joe Scarborough to AOC to Joe Biden to Rachel Maddow, can they just name me one white supremacist that has three people who agree with him and can bring them to campuses across America or Trump rallies?
	Name me one.
	You can't.
	Because, you know, the sad incels, the involuntarily celibate little fascistic clowns like Nick Fuentes, nobody takes them seriously.
	They're not a political movement.
	People laugh at them.
	They're sad little virgins in their mother's basements.
	And I'm not insulting him, he's actually admitted that.
	He is a sad little virgin, and he probably is in his mother's basement.
	There is no organized sizable, or even small, right-wing threat to America.
	Because what do conservatives want?
	They don't wish to destroy, they wish to conserve.
	It's in the name, conservative.
	I was at an event with my wife last night, and one of the participants came up afterwards, who's gay, right?
	He introduced himself, asking a question.
	My husband and I moved from California to escape the left-wing lunatics to Virginia.
	It's an interesting way to begin a question in a conservative event.
	I was kind of like, are you just trying to, are you a ringer or what are you doing here?
	Afterwards I spoke to this man, very smart man, who literally said, California's gone.
	It's gone.
	That's why, quote unquote, my husband and I came to Virginia.
	He said something really profound.
	And I told him I'm going to use it.
	And he said, fine.
	There's one choice in America.
	The builder or the destroyer.
	Now that is golden.
	That is priceless.
	What has Donald Trump done all his life?
	Build, build, build.
	Create, create, create.
	Not just as one of the most successful real estate moguls in American history, but as president.
	From building the wall, to revitalizing NATO, to establishing the historic Abraham Accords, to revitalizing the economy, to the biggest it's ever been, making the pie bigger for everyone.
	He is the builder.
	That's the only message we need right now.
	Build, build, build for all Americans.
	Who's on the other side?
	What has Biden ever built, apart from his own fortune through his crooked, whoring son?
	Biden's a destroyer.
	Destroying our economy, our energy, the lifeblood of the country, the border, our alliances with real friends like Israel.
	Helping to destroy us by strengthening our enemies like Iran.
	Surrendering Afghanistan, leaving $83 billion worth of hardware for jihadists like the Taliban.
	God bless you, sir.
	You may be a sinner, and I don't agree with your sexual preferences, but you nailed it.
	You nailed it.
	The choice is between a builder and a destroyer.
	Use it.
	Because it's the truth!
	Are we going to save it with the builder, Donald Trump, or are we going to finally destroy it?
	With Joe Biden.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Well, first, I want to say this is Joe Biden's America.
	This is the Democrat Party.
	These folks want to defund the police.
	We ought to defund these Ivy League colleges, these schools where these students are desecrating the American flag, disrespecting the American flag, desecrating college campuses because they hate America and they hate Jews.
	These are Jew haters.
	These are terrorist-loving Jew haters, gender studies students who hate our country.
	Nancy Mays, calling it like it is.
	I don't know how you defund private institutions, but at least we could stop giving them federal funds and strip them of their non-profit status.
	Why is Harvard, why is Colorado, why are they non-profit entities?
	That's garbage.
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	Sound off on the topics of the day.
	But first, we have to check in with the juggernaut that is Breitbart and their Washington bureau chief.
	Greetings, Matt Boyle.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Great to be here.
	Oh, we've got a new photograph of you.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Standing in front of Congress.
	Matt, I need to get your take on how worried the Democrats are.
	I think Bill de Blasio, I don't know what he's done.
	Has he dyed his hair or something?
	He sounds worried.
	Here's Bill on CNN.
	Cut three.
	Remember, these universities have a responsibility to keep their kids safe and ensure that they feel safe, that they can go about their education not expecting to be confronted in a way that could be physically threatening.
	And so right now, I would say as a Democrat, as a progressive, We need to come to grips with this.
	We need to be very blunt.
	Democrats should embrace that we do not allow any violence, any antisemitism, any Islamophobia.
	And I think if we don't do that, the Republicans are going to weaponize this issue for the fall election.
	So I would further say, if you care about this country from my perspective, you care about Joe Biden being elected, then let's stop fooling around here.
	We have to condemn any kind of violence, any kind of exclusion.
	You can't have any tolerance for antisemitism, for example.
	Ooh, Biden's in trouble.
	Can you just play that as B-roll in the background while I go to Matt, Eric?
	Jeff, this is Bill de Blasio, completely grey hair.
	How does he come up on CNN with the dark brown hair of a 14-year-old kid?
	How did that happen?
	That's natural aging right there.
	I'm just going to say it once more.
	This is not political analysis.
	This is Sebastian Gorka.
	If you're a guy, don't dye your hair.
	That includes Republicans and Democrats.
	All right, Matt Boyle.
	What does it mean that the former Democrat mayor of New York is publicly saying that Biden's in trouble?
	Yeah, well, look, I mean, it's no surprise here, right?
	There are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Democrats who are going to the polls in all of the swing states and more.
	There's a big movement in Maryland today.
	They're having a big event to vote uncommitted.
	That means they're voting against Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden's already won the Democrat nomination for president.
	They've got, you know, rising violent protests among young people on all of these college
	campuses all around the country.
	And I thought there was a particularly unifying moment at the University of Alabama, of all
	places, where both sides of the protests were chanting, F Joe Biden.
	So that's the thing that unifies America right now.
	This country is so hopelessly divided on so many things, but the thing that unifies these kids on these college campuses with conservatives, with everybody, is F Joe Biden.
	It's his fault.
	The President of the United States has to go.
	We have to get rid of him.
	And this movement is gaining strength and gaining speed.
	So Bill de Blasio is right that the anti-Semitism issue is a major problem for the Democrats.
	All of these things that are happening.
	At the same time, the mishandling of a number of different other things are also major problems for the Democrats.
	They've got major problems and they've got brewing contempt and disdain, etc.
	On the left, in the lead up to the upcoming Democratic Convention in Chicago in August.
	And remember, it's going to be a lot like 1968, right?
	How stupid are they, Matt, that they're taking it back to Chicago?
	I mean, Antifa, BLM, how stupid are they?
	I genuinely think they didn't see this stuff coming.
	out of touch with reality, right? And look, I mean, I deal with Democrats a lot, right? I mean,
	I was going back and forth with a guy from the Biden campaign last night, right? And a total
	loser, by the way. So the fact is, is that these people are totally inept, totally out of touch,
	totally don't have their finger on the pulse of where the country is.
	And that's the reason why there's an opening for somebody like Trump to come back, right?
	So what Trump's gonna do, and this is the problem though, the Republicans on Capitol Hill could screw this up.
	And they are right now.
	Mike Johnson did this whole thing yesterday that was supposed to be a messaging bill against anti-Semitism.
	Instead, it's got all sorts of problems.
	Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk are out there saying, Yeah, so this is the anti-Semitism crackdown that basically makes passages of the Bible forbidden.
	Right, and it's like, what the heck are they doing?
	It's supposed to be a messaging bill that unites Republicans and divides Democrats.
	If anything, it's done the other thing.
	Now the Democrats in the Senate, so I'm hearing, are going to hotline it now that the House passed it.
	They're going to try to jam it through the Senate and use it as political cover for the Senate Democrats.
	So again, This gets back to what we talked about, I think it was last week, Dr. G, with Mike Johnson.
	He's got to take time out.
	Dude, just sit on the sidelines.
	Let the Democrats burn themselves to the ground, alright?
	You did enough damage to America with the last month of nonsense that you passed, right?
	Like with FISA and the spending bill and the Ukraine supplemental and all this stuff.
	Just get out of the way, right?
	Like when your enemy is burning themselves to the ground, Don't get in the middle of it!
	Let them do it!
	And so, this is the thing.
	The Democrats are hopelessly in trouble.
	And the only thing that could save them is Republican idiocy.
	And Republican idiocy is happening right now.
	So the question is, look, let me put it this way.
	Let Donald Trump handle it.
	My message to every single Republican on Capitol Hill and candidates all around America, Donald Trump's your guy.
	Do what he does.
	Get out of the way.
	Sit down.
	Let the man America wants back drive the train.
	Right?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	It's really that simple.
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	That bill was...
	It's Mike Lawler, who's one of the most established.
	Mike Lawler?
	One of the most established.
	Mike Lawler.
	Oh, Lawler.
	Congressman from New York, who's the main author of it.
	He's one of the most establishment guys there is in the House.
	He's also one of the ones that was one of the 25 that blocked him, Jordan, and I call them the intransigents, who have totally hijacked the House of Representatives.
	So if you go back and look at the stories we did back during that whole situation, right when they blocked Jordan from being the Speaker, Those 25 people are the root of all this evil from around Mike Johnson.
	Mike Johnson's a useful idiot, right?
	Like, I don't think that he's that bright, and I don't think that he's, like, deliberately evil either.
	I think he's being manipulated by bad people on his staff in the membership in Congress, and it's just terrible, so.
	Well, I just, I think you all see he's just weak.
	Yeah, very weak.
	So, very beta.
	Yeah.
	Very beta.
	Yep.
	Why did de Blasio do that?
	Because I think there's serious concern on the Democrat side.
	No, sorry.
	I'm being unspecific.
	Why did he dye his hair?
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	Does he have an open marriage now?
	He does?
	Yes, there's something like that.
	Oh, he's dating?
	Yeah, but they're going to stay together or something.
	I forget what it was.
	Are you serious?
	I can't believe how fake it is.
	It's like everyone saw you for years with grey hair.
	It just drives me nuts.
	That's a shoe polish right there.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Alright.
	What are we doing here?
	Come in with Sharpton.
	Cut.
	Two.
	Oh, and play me the full four.
	Four.
	Cut.
	We're here to discuss the Little Gazas that have risen up on campuses across America, and the liberal college administrators and politicians who refuse to restore law and order and to protect other students.
	These Little Gazas are disgusting cesspools of anti-Semitic hate, full of pro-Hamas sympathizers, fanatics, and freaks.
	The terrorist sympathizers in these Little Gazas aren't Okay, good.
	80 seconds, coming in with two.
	Pillow here or no?
	Yeah, after that.
	Off to Sharpton.
	After Sharpton, after coming in with two, yep.
	Israel just like their ideological twins the ayatollahs in Iran.
	Okay good.
	80 seconds coming in with two.
	Pillow here or no?
	Yeah after that.
	All right.
	After Sharpton.
	After Sharpton.
	After coming to the country.
	Yep.
	Any titles for Chris in the monologue?
	For Chris...
	My father's favorite movie?
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Alright.
	And Mono.
	The Mono.
	Something about Trump being a builder?
	Yeah.
	Who do you choose, the builder or the destroyer?
	30 seconds Matt.
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	you What I did later in other situations was to bring attention to a cause, not become the cause.
	And what is troubling me about a lot of this is they become the cause.
	It's about them.
	It is not about pushing the cause.
	They need to ask themselves if they were sincere.
	Are you really focusing on what's going on in Gaza?
	About the children?
	About the women?
	About the innocent people?
	And in Israel, are you focusing on whether or not you are violent?
	Or whether or not you can say the most incendiary statements?
	I gotta ask, Jeff, the idea that Al Sharpton is saying that it's wrong because they're making it about themselves and not the cause, isn't that the history of Al Sharpton's whole stinking career?
	It's the only reason that he's there on TV.
	It's never about, you know, blacks.
	It's never about violence.
	It's about, give me millions of dollars or I'm gonna blackmail your company.
	It's always about Al.
	Of course.
	Look at all the money that he owes the IRS, which means how much money did he shake down to have to owe that amount of money?
	Wow.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
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	Matt, we've been waiting for weeks for the current incumbent of the White House to say something.
	He did that weird thing about, well, yeah, I think the antisemitism is bad, but I also don't condone what people are saying about Palestine, as if there's a moral equivalence there that justifies October the 7th.
	Finally, today he said something.
	Let's have a listen.
	Cut 13.
	So let me be clear.
	Peaceful protest in America.
	Violent protest is not protected.
	Peaceful protest is.
	It's against the law when violence occurs.
	Destroying property is not a peaceful protest.
	It's against the law.
	vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations.
	None of this is a peaceful protest.
	Threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not a peaceful protest.
	It's against the law.
	Is that going to help him or infuriate the radicals, Matt?
	What's your analysis?
	The more important thing was there was a question he got right as he was ending the whole thing.
	He was asked, has your position changed or are you opening to change your position?
	He said no.
	Right?
	Like, so what he just did was he just told all these college kids out there around the country that are on these campuses, you know, you're meaningless.
	Nothing you're doing is making any difference at all.
	Right?
	And he's lecturing them like, you know, like Dennis the Menace, old man, get off my lawn, right?
	Like, those people, those kids, they're not like Trump voters, okay?
	Like, they're not Republicans.
	They're natural Biden voters and Democrats.
	They are looking for a reason to vote for the Democrats, and the Democrats are not giving them one, right?
	Like, and there's nothing that's changing in all of this.
	This is why Biden and Blinken are so desperately trying to push Netanyahu into a ceasefire deal with the Hamas terrorists, right?
	Like, to try to be able to buy time ahead of the Democrat convention to get this stuff under control.
	It's not looking very likely.
	It's not looking very strong for them.
	But again, these kids are not coming back.
	They're gone, right?
	They voted uncommitted and they're not coming back to Joe Biden.
	And it's going to get worse between now in the convention and then in the election.
	But since the teaching semester ends right now, is this going to disappear and just be forgotten?
	Or is this left-wing Biden hatred, do you think, going to grow until the convention?
	Well, when kids don't have any school at all, that gives them plenty of time to go out there and do stuff.
	Not like they're going to class right now anyway, but the point is that this is going to give them a lot, even more time to be able to do stuff.
	And I'm sure they'll figure out a way to do stuff, even when the semesters end, right?
	At the end of May, beginning of June, whatever the school semesters end at these different schools, they will figure out a way to be involved.
	And it's only going to get worse, and then it'll pick up again in September.
	So what are they going to do?
	Are they going to say, let's just talk about abortion for the next six months?
	What is your expectation?
	Because you know the Democrats.
	That's what they want to do.
	That's what they want to do.
	That's what they're trying to do.
	They're trying to get abortion on the ballot in as many states as they possibly can.
	But I don't think abortion is going to save them.
	Abortion is a political winner for them.
	We know that.
	Yeah.
	But the fact is, I don't think it's going to save them this time because there's too many other things going on out there in the world.
	And everybody sees that, you know, it's a few years now removed from the end of Roe versus Wade being, you know, overturned by the Supreme Court and the world didn't fall apart.
	Right.
	Like, you know, and so people see that the Democrat rhetoric on this is just totally extreme.
	And I don't think it works for them as much as it did in the midterms.
	All right.
	Great, great update.
	Thank you, Matt.
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	Oh He's gone, right?
	Oh Oh
	He's gone, right Uh, yeah.
	Alex, is he gone?
	Okay, he's gone.
	Yep.
	That was good.
	Ph.D.
	Title for that one.
	Um... Why did Barzio dye his hair?
	No, um... That's actually pretty good.
	Alright, let's do that.
	Let's do that.
	It's so night and day too, that's the thing.
	Like, it's not even subtle.
	Okay, two minutes.
	All right, what else do we have?
	off.
	The JD Vance cut at some point.
	Oh yeah, but it's long.
	It's long, yeah, but you've seen that fucking E.
	Give me cut ten.
	Ten.
	Everything that we do in the House of Representatives should be in the best interest of getting Donald Trump re-elected.
	This guy right here.
	Come in with cut four.
	So that was a deposition with Matt Gaetz.
	How the heck do we have video of that?
	I don't know, it just came out.
	Why is he the only one that records the video of the depositions?
	Because that was under oath!
	Oh, we have to do Casio.
	Coming in with cut four.
	Good Have you seen those kids who've got, like, $400,000?
	Yeah.
	The frat kids?
	The frat kids, yeah.
	Apparently Bill Ackman donated $10,000 to it.
	Or at least someone putting the name.
	What is a rage?
	A rage?
	It's a party.
	It's a rager.
	It's just a wild, like, house party.
	Is that what you did in college?
	Oh yeah.
	UC Santa Barbara.
	spring break at UCSB is truly something else.
	I still can't get over that one...
	I'm still here.
	you you
	We're here to discuss the Little Gazas that have risen up on campuses across America, and the liberal college administrators and politicians who refuse to restore law and order and to protect other students.
	These Little Gazas are disgusting cesspools of anti-Semitic hate, full of pro-Hamas sympathizers, fanatics, and freaks.
	The terrorist sympathizers in these Little Gazas aren't peacefully protesting Israel's conduct of the war.
	They're violently and illegally demanding death for Israel, just like their ideological twins, the Ayatollahs in Iran.
	Not bad for Tom Cotton, little Gazers across America.
	A little bit of decent communications coming out of the GOP.
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	Number one.
	Is it Thursday?
	It must be.
	Lady Antoinette.
	Oh, hello, Dr. G. I can't believe it.
	I was telling Jeff.
	Gosh darn it.
	It went fast, didn't it?
	There being another Thursday.
	It crazy fast.
	I mean, the last two, three weeks, I feel like I'm back in the Trump administration and everything's just going like Mac 12.
	Understand it, Dr. G. But you know, I think what I loved, and I was going over some things, because there were a large group of us at the Tustin Orange Planned Parenthood this morning.
	The security guards there are getting more aggressive with us.
	We can't even stop.
	As the cars come out of that driveway, we hand them a Bible as best we can.
	Now they're yelling at us that we're blocking the driveway.
	But what I love for sure is when President Trump said what he said concerning in vitro and let the states do everything else.
	Yeah, it blows my mind that we have, you know, quote-unquote pro-life activists saying President Trump has betrayed them.
	You mean the guy who got rid of Roe v. Wade with his three Supreme Court nominees?
	Absolutely outrageous.
	Stay safe, my friend.
	Never give up, never give in.
	You are the voice for the voiceless.
	Our other warrior princess, this time from Brooklyn, Judy, line two!
	Hi!
	Hey!
	You know something?
	I know lots of things.
	How are you?
	I have a very large cranium.
	It is full of many facts.
	Yeah, sure.
	I'm usually on overload.
	I can't remember names anymore.
	It's craziness out there.
	You know, I'm calling for a couple of things, maybe.
	You know, I'm thinking to myself, all these university chaotic Hamas lovers, okay, these terrorists, these cuckoos, they don't even know what they're protesting about it, I guarantee you that.
	But I think it's spoiling it for the democrats, you know why?
	Because I think it's kind of dimming the total media focus, which they really wanted on President Trump's kangaroo trial.
	And it's not happening.
	That's interesting.
	It's distracting them from from Manhattan.
	I like that.
	I think you might be right, Judy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you want to know, my husband tells me today, I was laughing my head off.
	The way he said it was really funny.
	But I don't know.
	He tells me, you know, these migrants, which I call illegals, they have a job in the Bronx.
	They're waving flags.
	And when you ask them, someone came up, what are you doing?
	Oh, they go, where they go, they go, no, say nada.
	And they're getting paid.
	And they're just waving the Palestinian flag.
	That's what we're doing in the Bronx.
	Hang on.
	Your husband saw this?
	Or you heard this?
	Or what?
	I think my husband heard it.
	No, he didn't see it.
	He heard it.
	He came back telling me this morning.
	I just Cracked up.
	The way he presented it, like they're having a job, the illegals.
	They don't know what they're doing, but they're getting paid for this.
	I know nothing.
	I see nada.
	I would not be surprised.
	Thank you for the update.
	And make sure that your husband calls them illegals, Judy.
	Let's go back to California.
	Line three, George.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	Hey, can I do a quick movie suggestion before I get to the main thing?
	Absolutely, hang on, let me get my list out.
	Go ahead, what would you like to recommend?
	October Sky.
	What's that?
	It would be great for, it ties in with the manhood hour.
	What is it?
	It takes place in a coal mining town.
	This young kid gets interested in the space program because it's the time of Sputnik.
	Most of the kids go on to work in the coal mine, but he wants to build a rocket.
	And there's a great interaction between him and his father.
	And I think if you watch it, you'll see that it's about the hero in every man, the working man.
	Wow, I've never seen it.
	I'm looking it up right now.
	1999.
	Oh, Drake Glennon Hall is in it.
	Okay, I will check it out.
	I'm not a big fan of Laura Dern's though.
	Did you call in for another reason as well, George?
	Yes, sir.
	Go ahead.
	We know how No Joe is a great civil rights activist.
	Right.
	Don't forget he got arrested on his way to visit Mandela.
	I mean, he's a real hero.
	Well, he got arrested also on the porch of the black family.
	Yes, that's the latest one, on the porch, because he's a big civil rights activist.
	Well, he used to go to the synagogue every Saturday.
	Hang on, but was that before or after his hanging out with the Puerto Ricans?
	I'm not sure.
	But if he was, you know, why doesn't he go back to his favorite synagogue and denounce The antisemitic rants from these...
	Jihadist.
	That's very, very good.
	I like what you did there, George.
	Sneaky, sneaky.
	If he's such a big supporter of the Jewish community around which he grew up, he should go back to his favorite synagogue.
	Genius.
	Stay on the line, George.
	I think you deserve our number one t-shirt right now.
	You guys make me proud.
	It's the map of Israel.
	We did a little jujitsu on the jihadists and it says, from the river to the sea, Israel will stay for Ever free.
	He gets his for free.
	George does.
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	Thanks a lot.
	I saw it in high school.
	Any good?
	It's pretty good, yeah.
	Never heard of it.
	Same director as The Rocketeer.
	Oh, really?
	Father-son story.
	That's a movie I want to review.
	The Rocketeer.
	Every time I see that poster on the wall and I just read the cast, I'm like, what a cast this movie has.
	The Rocketeer?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and Jennifer Connelly before she lost her puppy fat.
	In fact, it's a real shame.
	Yeah.
	It was Timothy Dalton.
	Paul Servino's in it.
	Uh-huh.
	Love Paul Servino.
	Rest in peace.
	Yeah, it's a shame he wasn't more successful.
	Yeah.
	Forgot he was in the awful Romeo and Juliet movie with Leo DiCaprio.
	He was the head of one of the houses.
	Who?
	Paul Servino.
	Oh!
	Oh, wow.
	I forget which one.
	I remember watching that in high school.
	So bad.
	Oh, let's pick something.
	Is there something super short?
	Um, super short is cut ten.
	Troy Nels.
	Um, yeah.
	Yeah, let's come in with that.
	That's fun.
	And then you want to use Vance at some point?
	Next hour.
	Next hour.
	All right, coming in with cut 10.
	All right.
	This guy right here.
	Eric, what is Troy Nels pointing to right there?
	The greatest tie I have ever seen in my life.
	It's a tie with President Trump's official presidential portrait with the American flag behind him.
	We need to make a version of that for our website.
	What do you think, Jeff?
	Do you think Randy can get us a Donald Trump photograph tie with the stars and stripes?
	I like that, but a little bit of a different picture.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Maybe when he's on the show or when he called me out as Gorka Man.
	We definitely should do that.
	Alright, let's go back to your calls.
	Kevin, line 4.
	Dr. Gorka, thanks for taking my call.
	I wanted to make one little change on your Builder or Destroyer.
	I think you go with Builder or Breaker.
	That's good.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	No, I think that's pretty good in the choice between President Trump and Joe Biden.
	Not builder to destroyer, but builder or breaker.
	Yeah.
	Will you let me ponder that, Kevin?
	Let me ponder that.
	Good.
	I like that.
	Anything else?
	Yeah.
	He's broken the foreign policy.
	He's broken the Middle East.
	He's broken the city.
	No, no, no.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	And the alliteration is good.
	I get it.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Thank you, Kevin.
	George Orlando.
	Hey, thank you, Dr. Gorka, for taking my call.
	Sure.
	So, you know, I was going to say real quick, I've been seeing a lot of signs and all these demonstrations about how Israel is like doing genocide in Gaza, and I'm like, well...
	I'm like, let me, let me look up the numbers.
	So I looked at Poland, right?
	Poland, six years, 1939, 1945, the Jewish population goes from 3 million to 300,000.
	Yeah.
	Just in six years.
	And then I'm like, in Gaza, in 57 years, their population goes from 500,000 So I said, so it's either a bunch of left-wing propaganda, or Israel is just really bad at genocide.
	So I'm kind of thinking it's the former.
	Yeah, yeah.
	When the Arab population increases by tenfold, and you're supposed to try and convince us that they've suffered a genocide.
	Yeah, it's an absolute clown show.
	But as our friend Dennis Prager says, whatever the left says, believe the opposite.
	And whatever they are accusing you of, they're actually committing themselves.
	We know the truth is what the truth is, and we will not allow ourselves to be gaslit.
	Thank you, George.
	If you want to have peace back, not just in the Middle East, but in Europe, if you want to have peace around the world, do you remember what it was like under President Trump?
	Stunning!
	Just a few years ago, no new wars.
	We had a border.
	We had prosperity.
	We had safety.
	How do we do that again?
	Well, choose the builder, not the breaker.
	Thank you there.
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	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	I think the record is, or the average, is one mistake a year.
	Is that right?
	This is our sixth year and I've made five mistakes live on air.
	Eric, is that correct?
	I believe so.
	That's a pretty good average if I do say so myself.
	Not too bad, not too shabby.
	And now I made a mistake off air.
	This little planning thing I scribble on every day.
	I thought our guest, we had a guest in A and B, and we don't.
	We have in B and C. And I haven't planned a monologue, and I'm going to...
	Open the kimono?
	I didn't plan a second monologue.
	I mean, I rarely do.
	I just kind of extemporize.
	So I need you gentlemen to help me out here.
	What should we talk about?
	We have seven minutes to film, and I'd like recommendations for things you'd like to see on the show.
	And I will give you 76 seconds to think about it as we listen to a clip that Eric wants to play from a guy I've really warmed to, Senator J.D.
	Vance.
	What would you like to see on the show whilst we hear this clip?
	We know that there are threats to American democracy.
	I think the biggest threat to American democracy, Caitlin, is that the Biden administration is trying to prevent Donald Trump from campaigning and taking his case to the American people, even as they hide their own candidate.
	It's a judge from New York that's presiding over that case.
	The Biden administration is not preventing Donald Trump from campaigning.
	He just did two campaign events tonight.
	This is a really important point, Caitlin.
	Who is the number three person from the Biden Department of Justice who went to work for the New York prosecutor just months before he brought this case against Donald Trump?
	You can't have people moving from the Biden administration to prosecute Donald Trump in New York and say it has nothing to do with the Biden administration.
	Especially when the judge is a Biden administration donor.
	Attorneys go from the Justice Department to local DA's offices all the time.
	That's not that unusual.
	I mean, you're an attorney, you know that.
	It's pretty unusual.
	You probably have colleagues who went to Yale with you that did that.
	It's pretty unusual for the number three person in the Department of Justice to then go to the New York Prosecutor's Office to bring a bogus case against Donald Trump and then to have the judge presiding over that case to be a donor to Biden-Harris.
	I think that's pretty unusual, Caitlin, and really is Aside from your views or anyone else's views about Donald Trump, this is a real threat to Americans' trust in the legal system.
	How long is her show going to last?
	I mean, she puts her foot in it every single day.
	Jeff, do you think he's on Ph.D.
	as well?
	J.D.' 's looking pretty trim there.
	Yeah, he does.
	He's been looking the last couple months.
	He's been looking thinner.
	Looking pretty trim there.
	Let's get him back on the show.
	He's what, one of the three senators will allow on the show?
	Let's get JD back on.
	I like the cut of that man's jib.
	All right, so this is dangerous in front of millions of people right now.
	Any changes you'd like to make to this show?
	Let's go with Guy, because Guy's going to say no, it's perfect.
	Guy, anything you'd like to add or retract, remove from America First?
	Sir, I have to think about it.
	No, just say it's perfect.
	You don't need to change it.
	Yes, so far I think the show looks perfect.
	See?
	You can always rely upon Guy to tell you the truth.
	Okay, let's open this bag of worms here.
	Let's start with the man behind the board who brings us the best bumper music.
	Alex, is there anything you're hankering, apart from my sartorial advice, my fashion advice, what would you like to hear on America First?
	In the rare event if there's ever a societal collapse, how are we going to survive?
	So maybe like a survivalism segment or something.
	I love that!
	Oh, now you're cooking with gas!
	What is Dr. G's apocalyptic plan?
	I could actually riff on that right now, but I think in one of our production meetings we'll plan that.
	Yeah, I like that.
	Maybe not a regular segment, but we could have an extended discussion on what the Gawker plan is for when the EMP hit occurs.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Good stuff.
	Let's go to our in-house troublemaker, Mr. Eric.
	I think, and this is based on an idea... Oh, he's too keen.
	This is bad.
	He's far too keen.
	The electricity in his voice is... Okay, go ahead.
	Hit me.
	This is something that's been a little in the works for a while, but I think it'd be a good topic of discussion, because we have guests on all the time who all have books.
	We always advertise books that our guests have.
	I think we should look more at, like, older books.
	Call it the conservative canon.
	You know, here's a handful of philosophical works you should read, works by, you know, Russell Kirk, you know, the 50s, what have you, and just talk about what books are the true foundations of what it means to be a modern conservative.
	You've been sitting on this list of the conservative canon for over a year now.
	We really need to finish it and publish it.
	I like that.
	So what is your idea?
	That we'd invite a guest who's familiar with that classic work for, like, an hour to discuss it?
	Yeah, have someone on you with a scholarly mindset, let's say, to talk about these influential ideas from decades ago, centuries ago, that led to where we are today.
	Yeah.
	I think we have to do that.
	We have to do the survival segment, and we have to do a review of the canon, the canon of Western thought.
	We could start with Alan Bloom.
	He had a very good list of the Western conservative canon.
	Alright.
	Not too bad.
	Not too bad.
	Jeff, it better not be about sports, and it better not be about organized crime movies.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I have a few things.
	I'd like to see Guy Descent one time, when he's asked a question.
	Uh, less sci-fi, more commentary from Mr. G, that's an absolute, but no.
	Here's what I'd like to... Hang on, hang on.
	Commentary on what?
	What's the topic of Mr. G?
	Just anything.
	That was just more of a joke.
	No, what I would like to do is... Hang on, Eric.
	Did Mr. G just tell a joke?
	Oh, that's a joke!
	He just told a joke!
	We have to get a sign with a little J that he holds up.
	That Mr. G is not telling a joke.
	Alright, get serious, Mr. G. I was thinking about this with the Jim Jordan thing.
	It's not Jim Jordan.
	All the times the Republicans say they're going to do this, this, and this, and then it just disappears three months ago, we need to track this stuff and kind of look back into it.
	And I think every politician that we bring on, we should play their campaign ad from their previous election and ask them what they've done to that.
	Because my problem is... You want me to have no guests from Capitol Hill on my show, right?
	This is the problem, is right now the Republicans act like we're this crazy right-wing base that wants these things that are ridiculous.
	But every October, every other October we're running for election, it's the stuff they say.
	That's all we want them to do.
	That's bloody good, actually.
	That's really good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just list what they promised and then see if we can get them back on the show.
	All right, that was actually quite fun.
	I hope somebody was making notes there because I was just sitting in front of a microphone.
	Todd's been waiting very patiently in Atlanta.
	Line two, Todd.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, Dr. G. I was calling about You know, Gaza has been Judenfrei since 2005.
	Explain the German word Judenfrei.
	That means no Jews.
	Yeah, free of Jews.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, they launched their attack, their atrocities against Israel.
	According to the laws, international laws of armed conflict, doesn't Israel now have a right to that territory, just like when they were attacked in 67 and 48?
	No, that's not how the laws of war work.
	You can't take the territory.
	What the laws of war permit you to do is to engage in military action on the territory from whence the attack came until the threat is neutralized.
	If you could just take the territory then that would be an absolute nightmare.
	But yes, the laws of war allow them to engage in military actions on the other territory for as long as it takes to neutralize the threat.
	That was the laws of war used Yes, because, you know, the Promised Land was promised to the descendants of Isaac and Jacob, not Ishmael and Esau.
	Correct.
	And I think that this is their ancestral homeland.
	And just like when they were attacked when they declared themselves a nation, they've
	acquired territory every time they've been attacked.
	I think the only way to keep Hamas out of Gaza is to – the Gazans should be harbored
	in Qatar, since Qatar is harboring the billionaire war criminals of Hamas.
	Well, it is fascinating, Todd, that none of the Arab nations – that we've got Joe Biden
	yesterday declaring that Palestinians should be allowed into America.
	But no Arab nation, none of the region, even neighboring ones like Egypt, who built a very sturdy wall between Gaza and their sovereign territory, none of them want any Palestinians from the Gaza.
	But the broader point is a very sound one, Todd.
	There is no nation.
	I can't think of any nation.
	Not the British.
	Not the French.
	Not even the Japanese.
	There's no nation.
	There's no nation that has a 3,000-year-old claim to the territory on which they live.
	Except the Jewish nation!
	There is no nation!
	Not America.
	Not Germany.
	Not the UK.
	Not Japan.
	No nation!
	That has a millennia, multi-millennia old claim that is indisputable to the territory on which they live.
	Great, great, great, great call.
	Thank you, Todd.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	We did it.
	We did a whole nine-minute segment together.
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	Aren't we supposed to?
	No, I mean, but I think for Jeff, it's like one of his reasons for existence is to hate rhinos.
	Well, that's just why... They do nothing.
	Right.
	In his rundown, like, yesterday, he had the story on, like, oh, look at all the illegals who got flown into Florida.
	Parentheses.
	Where's Ron on this?
	Yeah, right.
	Well, have you noticed that since this Trump Tower started, he's doing a press conference every day about the news of the day?
	Pussing himself into it?
	He's done it every day for the last three weeks.
	Who?
	DeSantis.
	I miss that.
	What?
	Every single day he does it.
	And then the whole... Is anybody watching?
	Well, the whole, uh, Disciples.
	They all retweet it and everything.
	My man, this, that, but... The Chris Nelsons.
	Yeah, he hadn't been doing that at all for a while.
	Does he have any Disciples left?
	Yeah, Deese is still there.
	Yeah, they still pump him up.
	Cardillo is still... They all... All the same ones.
	Crazy.
	All right, so we're going to use Cut 9 here.
	Yep.
	And what else is a good one?
	I instantly thought of that line from Batman the Animated Series.
	Oh, that's a joke, right?
	Batman finally told a joke!
	Oh, that's so true.
	Recently came across my YouTube feed that Tim Curry was almost the voice of Joker in that show instead of Mark Hamill.
	Wow!
	That would have been my friend.
	Hey, will you shut that door, Ry?
	All right.
	Mic's on.
	Two and a half minutes.
	And he's on.
	The G-man.
	That's me.
	What's going on?
	Living the dream.
	How about you?
	Yes.
	Why are you laughing so much?
	I was just talking to my religious friend in here that runs comms for us.
	And we don't... I got in trouble on Bannon today.
	He said, I missed the point because I brought it.
	We were talking about the Jewish amendment and all that.
	I agree with him on all that.
	But I bring in an extraneous issue, which was the Marxism and on campus and all this stuff.
	And I said, I said, it's a little ironic that these kids are protesting human rights.
	The Marxists are protesting human rights.
	And within Marxism, no ideas.
	God's not allowed.
	There's no ethics.
	It's all superstructure set by the elites.
	And so these elite kids haven't been educated a bit on Marxism.
	And Steve didn't want me getting anywhere near, though, the human rights debate on Palestine.
	I'm fine with that.
	Well, that's weird.
	Why?
	What's the issue there?
	I mean, you're making the point of, you know, the complete lack of consistency within Marxism and, you know... No, there's no problem.
	He's just...
	He's just laser focused.
	He doesn't want me going off on tangential issues.
	He said this is existential only for the United States of America.
	They're doing this as a threat to the US.
	They're trying to get the US to stop the war.
	They're trying to get the US to stop the war.
	The US is not going to stop the war.
	The End.
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	Jeff, didn't we used to have a liner for the show, your favorite legal immigrant, or was that just an idea?
	No, we still have that.
	That's in there, way back.
	We need to dig that up.
	I like that one.
	I am... It's Jennifer Horne says it.
	Oh, it is?
	Yes.
	All right, let's see.
	That's the very bottom, Alex.
	Let's see.
	He's not even sitting near the board and Mr. G knows where it is.
	That's why he's the best producer in the business.
	Although we can't get...
	We're gonna have to like tie him to a chair and just carry him on onto the ship as it's docking in Seattle.
	I don't know what his problem is.
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	Someone who needs no introduction in terms of his patriotic credentials, former congressman from Virginia, now the Dean of the Business School for Liberty University.
	It's been far too long.
	Dave Brat, welcome back to America First.
	Zeb, thanks for having me on.
	Hey, I am now the Senior Vice President for Business Relations, so if people want to hear me talk, I'm traveling the United States of America, selling Liberty, a fine university, and the Judeo-Christian West.
	So go to Brad Economics and my email's right there.
	So that means you don't have to work anymore.
	No teaching, no grading, none of that stuff.
	Just swanning around America from five-star hotel to five-star hotel, correct?
	Yeah, right.
	No, no, no.
	I'm a Dutchman.
	It's two-star.
	Or I put that in his car on Senior Vice President Liberty University.
	Okay, so I have to play this cut.
	And congratulations, by the way.
	Congratulations, Dave.
	Richard Haass is a prostitute.
	He's a whore for the quote unquote elite.
	And former president of, I think, the Council on Foreign Relations, he went on MSNBC to tell us mere plebs who live in the real world, who actually have jobs, about how economics works today, how it worked under my former boss, and how he's going to destroy a business climate in America.
	Just listen to the political prostitute that is Richard Haass.
	The business thing.
	Why do people invest in this country?
	Why does our economy do so well?
	It's because this is the rule of law.
	You understand that it's a safe place to invest.
	People can go to work.
	Consumers can consume.
	What business leaders are missing here is how much is at stake that the comparative advantage of the United States and the American economy depends on the rule of law being paramount.
	If we no longer have that, they are kidding themselves that they think they can flourish.
	So you are a man who understands economics.
	You have an annual event with American business leaders.
	Are American business leaders petrified by the return of a former president?
	No, I believe four years ago under President Trump, and all political views are just my own, we had peace and prosperity.
	And so our betters at the Foreign Policy Institute there, they may not be familiar with the 10% growth rate that China has achieved for about 30 years in a row without the rule of law, with surveillance, totalitarian communist state.
	Just for starters.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I'm a bit confused because this great brain, Richard Haass, didn't Hitler have quite a powerful economic rebuilding of Germany after the Treaty of Versailles to such an extent that he took control of Europe until we came in to liberate it after Pearl Harbor.
	Was Hitler into rule of law?
	You may be more historically versed than I am, Professor.
	Yeah.
	No, I think you're two for two here.
	And these guys, you know, they're jokers.
	What matters more than anything is, you know, the Judeo-Christian West, the morality that goes with it, that gave rise to freedom and the rule of law and the Constitution and our republic.
	Because they're morally good.
	These Haas guys are just, they're lost, right?
	They don't have any foundation to cling to, so they just make these crazy ad hoc statements about the economy and how scary, you know, President Trump will be back.
	The left, right, and Haas and all these guys have no problems trading with China and their slave labor.
	Yes.
	There's never a commentary on that moral piece of the abuse of 1.4 billion people made in the image of God.
	Right.
	And on the issues over here, in fact, the United States, you know, Trump and this thing, the Russiagate thing, the evidence is in three years right now.
	Haas and all of the intelligence officials, 51 intelligence officials, CIA, FBI, etc.
	were all in on that thing.
	And it was a ruse and totally false, right, about Trump.
	Trump was very smart.
	He's the one that kept Russia from flying into the arms of China.
	And now these guys with no semblance of wisdom or geopolitics have sent Russia flying into the arms of China with Iran and the Straits of Hormuz and all that goes with it.
	And so it's just stunning to have our betters lecture to us while the world is in chaos and we have multiple wars and we're funding the CIA through the Ukraine money.
	Everybody knows this now.
	The problem is the word's out now.
	This world really is becoming transparent.
	Even the kids are seeing this on TikTok.
	And the kids are starting to keep score.
	Who's lying more?
	It's humorous if the stakes weren't so high.
	So this isn't a political question, this is a business question, Professor.
	You talk to the business leaders, you have your annual summit.
	What do they want?
	Do they want four more years of what we have now?
	Or a return to my former boss's business practices?
	Yeah, they want a return even prior to President Trump.
	But they want free markets, which are, it's just almost a pipe dream right now.
	I tell all my free market groups and friends, I said, quit talking about free markets.
	We got to get back to the institutions required to have free markets.
	This world is under assault right now.
	The rule of law, all these institutions, the Justice Department, the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the border invasion.
	To talk about having a precise free market system where you rely on the price system to send precise signals about efficiency, you've got to be kidding me.
	We just need to restore basic American foundations, right?
	First, in the first place, or you won't get all those other nice properties.
	And so the business guys get, especially the small business people, they know they're being lied to.
	They're against monopolies, the Magnificent Seven, the concentration of market power.
	It's not just market power, it's political power, right?
	When you're in the Magnificent Seven, you get to do Zuckerbucks.
	And you get to proportionately spend all your money in, just by chance, the critical states with the critical elections and throw your weight around.
	And this is not American.
	We're talking to the newly minted Senior Vice President at Liberty University.
	Follow him on getter at brateconomics and liberty.edu.
	We're going to talk about what that culture behind functioning economics really is next.
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	I went from Dean to Vice Provost and now Senior Vice President.
	Wow, I didn't even know the Vice Provost thing.
	Yeah, I just skipped over.
	It was functionally similar, but right now I'm just going around the country.
	If you ever see any business groups that need a macro speaker on these things, or if you ever want to team up, we invite all of our Liberty folks in whatever area.
	Yeah, I kind of lost hope in you guys after I met somebody who promised, you know, lots of outreach or whatever and never did anything about it.
	I don't know if that guy is still there, but yeah, I'm happy to tag team with you if you want to.
	Yeah, anytime you see a win-win, let me know.
	I'm going out to Vegas in a week and then I just spent about eight days in Florida going Delray and Palm Beach and then Vero with the super wealthy.
	I was shocked.
	There's a bunch of conservatives there.
	They're not outspoken Christian, but they're Christian, very conservative.
	They're buttoned up very tight.
	They keep a tight ship.
	There are some winners there.
	Exciting.
	And how are you doing it?
	Do you have a speaker's bureau, or what?
	Yeah, me!
	I just make contact with friends and say, hey, if you need a speaker, and if they invite me out, I go.
	And then I say, hey, do you mind if I invite some Liberty alum in the area?
	Donors, Liberty donors.
	So it's, you know, 10 to 20.
	And then you just try to find as many people as we can dig up.
	And then I'm meeting all these other nice folks along with it.
	God bless.
	Eric, at the end of each second hour and at the end of the third hour pre-record, I'm going to be mentioning every day Katie's new podcast and her book Next Gen Marxism.
	At the end of every second hour and third hour?
	Yep.
	All right.
	So just have those buffers ready.
	Yeah Ninety.
	Okay.
	Oh, he's finished his speech, right?
	President Trump, he just spoke.
	Should we do a one-on-one with Jen and Katie?
	Totally, yes!
	We should have them guest host sometime.
	That would be pretty fun.
	Katie in studio and then Jen from California.
	I like that.
	Three hour long podcast episode.
	All right.
	One minute.
	Want to use any cuts here?
	No, no cuts.
	All right.
	C-segment.
	Pillow?
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	Was that from an interview with Mr. Nugent?
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	We might have to get him back for one of our Second Amendment segments on Friday.
	President Trump has just come out of the courtroom in Manhattan.
	He has to be back there tomorrow morning at 9.30.
	He gave an impromptu press conference.
	There's such idiots giving him that platform.
	And he called the judge's gag order unconstitutional.
	I guess he's going to be gagged again and fined again tomorrow.
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	It's a much longer discussion, Vice President Bratt, but let's just spend a minute or two
	on what you just said.
	The Michael Novak argument that is just kind of...
	I think like 90% of Americans don't get it and I would say 99% of kids in America don't get it.
	Capitalism isn't profit.
	That's not what capitalism is.
	Capitalism has a moral compass.
	It has a moral content and Michael Novak The late, great Michael Novak was so good on this issue.
	Can you explain why capitalism isn't something you do devoid of a moral compass?
	Sure.
	Yeah, well, this is the problem with these Ivy League kids.
	They don't know any system of ethics.
	They don't know any history, right?
	If you knew the history of just ethics and morality, even not in the Judeo-Christian vein, but the ethics of economics, the foundational level, was utilitarianism with Bentham and Mill.
	And that ethical system failed in the grand scheme of things because their thesis statement was max utility, right?
	Not even max happiness.
	Happiness can be Aristotelian and goes along with the virtues.
	This was just max happiness and that's what economics does.
	Economics is just statistics, right?
	It's just a study of efficiency.
	And so Mother Teresa maximizes her happiness by feeding the poor and taking care of the least of these.
	Hitler, as you just got done saying earlier, maximized his utility by slaughtering the innocents.
	And so both of those are compatible with modern economics.
	Economics just says, here's how you do what you want to do more efficiently.
	And so to abstract from the Judeo-Christian West, Right?
	All of our founders, anybody with a brain.
	The reason the utilitarians carried any weight at all was because everybody knew they were operating under the constraints of the Judeo-Christian West and its morality.
	Right?
	Same with Immanuel Kant, who basically tried to secularize the Golden Rule, did a brilliant job doing it, but he has no followers because, again, his system failed.
	The only ethical systems that the world lives out right now are Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, Islamic ethics, etc.
	All the religions, and those are barred from being taught.
	In fact, The Marxists and leftists on campus and on the left in the Democrat Party, all political views are my own, but they're coming after religion now, right?
	They're going after the white Christian nationalists.
	So they've revealed their hand.
	It's no more longer the Enlightenment, which, you know, tried to pretend that they were going to be neutral, where we could all just maximize our happiness and kind of have a libertarian social contract.
	No, they have always wanted to seize power and that's what they're doing.
	And all you got to do is look at any university, all the secular universities right now on campus, and you'll see the biggest abstraction you've ever seen from human reason.
	They don't even pursue truth anymore.
	They're just after power.
	And if you ask the kids, what exactly are you protesting?
	They don't even know.
	And it's a disaster.
	We need to reaffirm our commitment to objective truth because that's where it all began.
	Modern relativism is about denuding us of the concept of objective truth.
	Why?
	Because objective truth comes from He who is objective truth, and that is our Lord and Creator.
	He is the newly minted Senior Vice President of Liberty University.
	You can follow him on getter at brateconomicsliberty.edu.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	So you've got a, yeah, we screwed up there.
	That was meant to be my pillow.
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	Alright, so I'll do PhD here.
	Did I do a PhD in the first hour?
	I did.
	You did, in the first hour, yeah.
	You've got the story Geoff sent you.
	Daily Mail, yeah.
	And I'm sending you this one first.
	Another one, okay.
	Yeah, that one's first, then we'll get to the Daily Mail.
	What's wrong with my IFB?
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	I'm going to sleep.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	Did you text it?
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	What time is, um, Bannon?
	I believe five.
	Let me double check.
	Should be fireflies.
	Turn the mics off?
	Uh, no.
	Mics are on.
	Double duty today.
	Hey, always happy to do it.
	It's a double barrel shotgun with the Gorka.
	Yep.
	How's everything going?
	Good, good, good.
	You still going on banning a lot?
	Every Thursday.
	Oh, yeah, that guy's hilarious.
	Bye.
	Yeah, I'm not sure I'd say hilarious.
	Why'd you say that?
	Well, I don't know.
	I guess when we're not on air, he's...
	I see.
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	We will immediately end all sanctuary and deadly sanctuary cities.
	I will shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to immigration enforcement.
	And we will impose a naval blockade on the cartels because when we clean up the land, they come in by sea.
	And they have plenty of money to do it.
	We will put the cartels out of business.
	They will be out of business and quickly.
	And on day one, we will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.
	Love it, love it, love it!
	We're going to have a blockade against the cartels and the biggest deportation of illegals in American history.
	Why?
	Because we've had the biggest invasion of illegals for the last three and a half years under Joe Biden.
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	All right, let's connect the dots with what's happening on American campuses.
	And with the illegal invasion that's been occurring for years across the United States with somebody who's just made it into the Daily Mail.
	Welcome back to America First from the Center for Immigration Studies, Todd Bensman.
	Good to be here, thank you.
	First, let's talk about something you sent me from your website, from your organization, CIS.
	The secrets revealed.
	What can people now access, thanks to Congress, via your website?
	Right, well, this is maybe the second or third rail of illegal immigration, of the mass migration crisis that's been underway.
	The Biden administration arranged to bring hundreds of thousands of inadmissible aliens into the country by flying them over the border, lest they clog things up and attract media attention down there at the border.
	But the administration for a year has been battling to keep the whole program a secret.
	Namely, which cities and airports are receiving all of these hundreds of thousands, 400,000 In the last year or so alone being flown in, and these cities are staggering under the burden of all of these foreign nationals showing up with hands out, right?
	So finally, after subpoenas and our litigation, trying to just get the names that were dragging their feet, the administration was forced to come clean by releasing the names of the cities, about 45 of the cities, where they're entering.
	And it turns out that the vast majority of them are actually being flown into Ron DeSantis' state, the Sunshine State of Florida.
	At least 326,000 landed in Florida.
	And then from there, we don't know if they stayed or what happened to them.
	DeSantis himself says he doesn't think many of them stayed because he's tried to make his state inhospitable.
	to illegals coming in, of any kind, and that maybe they're heading elsewhere.
	But also, significant numbers flying into New York, California, Chicago, Baltimore, Texas, Greg Abbott's state.
	Many of them are flying into Houston Intercontinental Airport.
	And so the numbers are there.
	The cities are there.
	You can go to my website and find them.
	I link to give you all the links.
	We've been writing about this for a year straight, about our quest to get the airport information and the city information to the American people so that they can have a say in this thing.
	It's an incredibly important thing.
	Go to CIS.org, follow Todd online at BenzmanTodd, find out if they are shipping hundreds of thousands of illegals to where you live.
	All right, let's connect things to the pro-illegal immigration, anti-American demonstrations across America's campuses.
	What did you find out about the School of Journalism in Columbia that got you published in the Daily Mail, Todd?
	Well, first of all, the Columbia Journalism School is considered kind of the most You know, Paramount's the gold standard of American journalistic practice and education, right?
	That's where they're going to hand out the Pulitzer Prizes next week.
	But it turns out that the school has allowed a shrine to be erected inside the lobby of its main building to the fallen, quote unquote, journalist of Gaza.
	It's got about a hundred of their names in photographs of individuals who have been killed in the war since October 7th, in Israel's retaliatory war.
	But a close look at those pictures and names shows that at least 15 of them worked for Al-Aqsa TV, which is Hamas's a propaganda outlet, which the U.S. Treasury Department and
	the State Department have declared designated terrorist organization.
	And also another at least dozen working for propaganda outlets for other U.S. designated
	terrorist organizations like the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
	It's important to know that these are not regarded by anyone outside of the Columbia
	School, the journalism school, as some kind of neutral, regular news outlets.
	These routinely call people, Gazans, to go act as human shields on buildings that they think are going to be targeted by Israel, whose broadcasters praise every time There are Israeli body bags coming out of a terrorist attack somewhere.
	Let me just reiterate what you just said, because sometimes we have guests that drop things that people don't internalize because they're too shocking to internalize.
	The Columbia Journalism School, where we're having these demonstrations, it is the premier
	journalism school in America, has a shrine to jihadi terrorists and jihadi terrorist
	sympathizers.
	That's in America, where they announce the Pulitzer Prizes.
	Please check out the article at BenzemanTodd on Twitter and for the details of where the
	illegals are in America, CIS.org.
	Keep doing what you do, Todd.
	We need to get you back for a longer discussion.
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	We got that video for B-roll.
	Great.
	What is this?
	Did you see the other one with the kid running with the half trash can?
	No.
	Fox was showing it on a loop today.
	I recorded it with my commentary over it to send to a friend, but it was so funny.
	Send it to me.
	They cut up these plastic trash cans, right?
	Yeah.
	And they were using them as riot shields.
	It may take a while, but I texted you the video.
	And this was Portland.
	This is a Portland.
	One of them is Running, quote-unquote, he's doing like this gay little trot.
	It's not like a run, but like, and he just runs with this shield, quote-unquote, full body into a police officer.
	The officer just casually shoves away and he falls right on his ass, like, didn't even budge at all.
	And of course, a bunch of officers surround him and arrest him for trying to assault the guy, but... Alright, I'm gonna tee up this B-roll very quickly, then I'm gonna go to the calls.
	Oh, my God.
	It's so painful.
	Alright, so, um... Mark Davis is locked in July 1st to 3rd, and then I guess I'll do, um... He's also Tuesday, by the way.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then I'll do Jim for the 5th.
	Oh, Jim for one day?
	Okay.
	Well, yeah, I mean... The Friday, that is.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	It's taking forever to send this video.
	I'm going to try to get this video to 10,000 views.
	You're listening to America First with the indispensable immigrant, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	The indispensable immigrant.
	That's even fancier.
	Thank you, Jen.
	I don't think Elon's fixed everything at Twitter, but sometimes you break through the shadow banning.
	I posted this video at 10.30 this morning about The students, the jihadists being arrested.
	Play the video.
	It's got 900,000 impressions.
	Look at what the cop does here.
	I think he's highway patrol.
	Yeah, he's California Highway Patrol.
	Takes off the mask and perp walks the lunatic lefty.
	That's how you do it.
	Take off the headgear, take off the COVID mask and arrest them and perp walk them past the cameras.
	That's how you do it.
	All right, let's go to Tom in Oregon, line one.
	Hi there, Dr. G. Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Can you hear me alright?
	Yes, you've got to be quick.
	We've got multiple callers.
	Go ahead.
	Sure.
	I'm mid-70s.
	I think I remember in the L.A.
	riots and anti-war activists that initially they bring out the fire hoses and wash these people down, especially when they're out there in the square or so.
	You can blow their tents away and you can blow people off their feet.
	Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
	I think we need the fire hoses back.
	These lily-white, pro-jihadi, America-hating lunatics.
	Get the fire hoses out and you'll be cleaning up the quad at the same time.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you for your patience.
	Roy in Dallas.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you for taking my call and God bless you and your family.
	Thank you kindly.
	Likewise.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	My comment real quick is I've been watching the video footage covering the college campuses with the demonstrations and protests and thank NTD News with Kevin Hogan and Tiffany Meyer.
	And they're fine folks for covering this because I've seen the UAW signs surfacing and showing up at these college campuses and demonstrations.
	And this is wrong.
	The UAW, if they are sponsoring these acts of demonstrations, which are not peaceful at these college campuses, then they need to be called out.
	They need to be looked into.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And not only that, we need to find out who's really funding them.
	All the signs that look the same, all the tents that are the same, even the same color.
	This isn't spontaneous.
	This is astroturfed and somebody's paying for all of it.
	Thank you, Roy.
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	He's one of the most incisive, philosophical, deep-thinking individuals providing social media content on that thing called YouTube today.
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	Rudyard Lynch, aka WhatIfAltHist, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me, Sebastian.
	It's great to be here.
	All right, so I've picked a couple of videos.
	I don't know if we'll get to do both of them fully.
	Let's put up the title page, the thumbnail from YouTube of the first one.
	It's the coming incel revolution.
	Let's start.
	We've got to define things.
	What is an incel?
	Is it a real thing?
	Is it an insult?
	And why do we need to understand their effect on Western civilization?
	It's funny to see Zoomer discourse, and I'm a very young guy, and it's funny to see Zoomer discourse be taken seriously, but incel is a term for involuntary celibate, and it's effectively a guy who can't get laid.
	So let's just be clear here, incel is almost exclusively used in application to the male of the species?
	Yes, it was actually invented by a woman, but it has become applied to men for obvious reasons.
	It was invented about a decade ago, and there are incel forums where these people come and talk about their issues.
	There are a handful of people who self-identify as incel, but Overall, let's use the term of derision by the left against this demographic of young men, and I've been on a bunch of podcasts that talk about this issue already, and one of the disjoints I see in people's logic between this situation and the reality is that people view incels as just losers and people who are in their parents' basement, but
	From different statistics you look at, you can see that young men under the age of 30, depending on what you're looking at, between two-thirds to 80% are single, depending on what age cohort you look at, what demographic.
	And so you're looking at a large part of the population.
	And what I say in the video is that this is an issue that our society cannot view rationally, and we automatically project emotions onto it.
	But if you're looking at a demographic that large, that's having an issue this big, you would think that for the sole goal of the safety of the society, you would have to talk about it and reason about it.
	Because even if you hate young men and don't want them to do well, just picking an arbitrary An arbitrary scarecrow, whatever the term is.
	Straw man.
	Straw man, right.
	Yeah, an arbitrary straw man case.
	You would still want to prevent this from becoming a major issue.
	Because you would want society to survive.
	Right, so you take this, what is most often used pejoratively as an insult for the young man in his mum's basement eating Cheetos and playing computer games and watching porn.
	But you actually do the socioeconomic analysis and what it means for Western civilization.
	But it's more than just single.
	These are young men who have never had a girlfriend, don't have a girlfriend, and have minimal prospects of ever engaging with the female of the sex of the human race.
	Why, what is this phenomena?
	Is this because of dating apps?
	Is it because of the fear of quote-unquote rape culture?
	Explain why this phenomena exists that we have a large chunk, a significant chunk of a certain age demographic that's never had a relationship with the opposite sex.
	So again, I've had this conversation many times before, and so I'm going through the normal obstructions I reach once I have this conversation.
	And one is that people view dating and relationships as an individual issue.
	And this is also true of mental health.
	We view mental health and dating and relationships as individual issues, and all the solutions are individual.
	And this is a big reason for the left Worldview because for the left all these things are individual and so your individual Aspects like as a husband as a father as a member of society are seen as your choice but the reality is that this is reflected back into the population and The reason I say this is that in the same way the economy can fluctuate that's true of dating and relationships in that a
	If it's the Great Depression, and you saw that someone is having economic issues, you would look to that and see that this was caused by a larger macro-social trend, and we just don't do that for relationships.
	And I don't want to get too mired into a different topic, but something that I've studied very deeply and a theory that I have is I believe that we're on the verge of a thing called the psychological black death.
	And then I think our society is on the verge of large mental health issues.
	That's question three on my list.
	I've got it written here, psychological black death.
	So let's hold it for a second.
	Let's talk about the thing that... Go ahead.
	Yeah, to get back to the point you asked me, and I was getting there.
	The reason I went through all that preface is I wanted to explain how external events can push an issue like this to a fever pitch. And so if you looked
	at the statistics of dating apps, dating would have an inequality rate of the second most unequal
	country in the world, somewhere between South Africa and Venezuela. And I picked
	three reasons for this, the first being dating apps, where women are by nature more picky
	than men for obvious biological reasons.
	And so what dating apps do is it effectively makes women as picky as they could be.
	And so you end up with about 20% of the male population getting 80% of the matches.
	The bottom 80% of men getting no matches, and even more so, the top 5% of men getting an incredibly disproportionate amount of matches.
	And so, dating apps have created inequality.
	Can we stop there for a second?
	Because this is one of the aspects, and you're so right, that we look at these as micro-issues, when in fact there are macro-tendencies, societal tendencies that are creating them, that cannot be solved with individual, you know, micro-solutions.
	As a 53-year-old, The idea that anyone in their 20s would go onto an electronic device and then pick a potential mate or someone to hang out with based upon an application, I still can't internalize that.
	And when I have, you know, children, you know, My children in their 20s actually recommending to their friends, well, yeah, she should go on an app or he should go on an app.
	I can't simply... You're a young man.
	How did we get here that instead of going to a bar, going to somebody's party or asking somebody out in college, that they actually go to an electronic device and connect with a complete and utter stranger?
	What was the liminal event where we said, oh, that's actually the healthy way of finding somebody?
	This is a great transition because it leads to the second topic that Sebastian talked to me about before going on this show, which is mouse utopia.
	And I've studied every era of history, and so there are certain Things that I see in our society that I don't see in other eras of history.
	One of them being the nihilism of the left, that the left is trying to commit civilizational suicide.
	There's no historical proxy for that.
	The other one is the anxiety you talk about, where young people, and especially young women, have horrifying social anxiety.
	And I don't really see a historic parallel for this, and John Haidt just released an interesting book talking about how screen addiction drives this.
	But with Mouse Utopia, it was this experiment that was- Let's hold there, let's hold there.
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	Okay, so Mouse Utopia, it's not a book, it's not a graphic novel, it's actually an experiment.
	Unusually, or surprisingly, mice live in quite societal ways.
	Explain what happened to the mice of this colony under the Mouse Utopia experiment.
	Mouse Utopia has changed my worldview in a very profound way.
	And it was an experiment that was run about 30 times in the late 60s and early 70s.
	And it was based around fears of population growth that were occurring in that time period, where a lot of you might know the movie Soylent Green that was really popular in the early 70s about an overpopulated world.
	And the great irony though is that Mouse Utopia proved the exact opposite thesis, where every single time this experiment was run, you ran into Female mice became very masculine.
	Male mice became effeminate.
	Their testosterone rates dropped.
	The mice birth rate completely collapsed so that the colony died each time because the mice refused to have children.
	The male mice, like, fetishized their own grooming.
	The female mice didn't raise the children properly or kick them out of the nest.
	The whole thing basically became, what, hedonistic and started to collapse.
	Yeah, it became today.
	Fun.
	And...
	And yeah, so there were these class of male mice called the beautiful ones that would groom themselves all day and not do anything and they wouldn't mate.
	The female mice stopped having children and they would socially isolate and they would, if they did have children, they would often kick them out of the nest too early or hurt the children.
	There were these class of autistic mice where they just didn't know how to socialize and You saw a complete breakdown of the mouse social structure.
	And it's weird to say mice have a social structure, because looking at these things scurry around your kitchen, you don't think they have societies that can fall apart like the fall of the Rome or the Maya.
	But apparently they do.
	But their neurological system, I mean the reason they're experimented on is because their neurological system is quite akin to human beings.
	Yes, so in humans you have the mammal brain, the lizard brain, and the human brain, in that the lizard brain controls for automatic functions like breathing, sleeping, mating.
	The mammal brain controls for emotions like love, jealousy, empathy.
	And then humans have the prefrontal cortex, which is vastly larger in us than it is for mice, in that the prefrontal cortex allows us to plan, it allows us to Understand the world on a rational basis, etc.
	And so when you're looking at these hormonal changes between mice and humans, you're seeing fundamentally a pretty similar process in that people are rationalizing hormonal changes.
	And one of the things I talk about on my show a lot is that 90, from studies, we found that 90% of people
	rationalize whatever their emotional state is.
	And you look at the left, the left doesn't even pretend that they don't do that, because the left says,
	my emotions are valid no matter what, and there is no truth.
	Whoever is in power creates the truth.
	And the thing that scares at Mouse Utopia, furthermore, is you have the autistic mice who couldn't socialize, you had gangs of sociopathic mice who would kill those who continued to breed, and you had gangs of, you had homeless mice that wouldn't cooperate in the society and they would wander around the mouse society just getting beaten up and attacked by other mice.
	And Calhoun, the guy who ran the experiment, spoke about something called the first death, which is
	The mice stopped having a joie de vivre, or a desire to live, or the spark of life that you can see inside people.
	And he said that the mice lost their spark of life far before their actual colony failed.
	And the thing that really scares me at our society is that I've studied every era of history, and I constantly look for proxies between our era of history and other eras.
	And almost every major society goes through a thing called decadence, and Decadence is—it happened in the Muslim Empire a thousand years ago, it happened with the Romans, the Chinese, the Indians, the Greeks.
	And in decadent societies, the birth rate collapses, moral degeneracy occurs, the societies lose the ability to wage war, they lose values, the compromise and unity between social classes breaks down as well.
	The modern West is very clearly decadent, but we are more than decadent in that our society is literally committing civilizational suicide for its own reason, not for economic gain just because we as a society or the left wants to.
	There is no parallel to that in history.
	The birth rates crashing to the levels they are also is no parallel.
	If the current trends continue, for every hundred South Koreans alive today, there will be four at the end of this century.
	And whenever I look at the world, I imagine, what is the logic behind this trend?
	What would result in this trend stopping?
	And If this trend continues to play out, what will the results be?
	And for all of this, I try to fit them into paradigms, and the only paradigm that can explain it is mouse utopia.
	I've seen no other paradigm that can logically explain the ill logic of our society.
	We're going to explore where this goes, but I just want to put up a couple of images.
	You don't appear in your videos, it's just a voiceover, but you do have some great graphics.
	For example, here's the division of brain functions that allows mice to simulate what we do.
	And then, to illustrate the complete illogic, of the left today.
	You put up this list of gender relativism that tells you just how degenerate and denying of all reality the left has become.
	So here are the five points.
	The argument for gender relativism.
	One, there are cultural stereotypes around gender.
	Two, that makes them a cultural construct.
	Three, cultural constructs are things we invented.
	Four, Thus, since we invented them, we can change them at will.
	Thus, reality doesn't really exist.
	Or an easier way, the one I like to use is, if gender is a social construct, why do you have to take hormones and mutilate yourself with surgery to change the quote-unquote reality of your gender?
	Either it's artificial and constructed, Or you need to have yourself mutilated by a quote-unquote doctor.
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	the degeneracy.
	You made a comment in your video, and ever since I read John Keegan's book, The Face of War, I've been convinced of this, that human beings are mostly irrational, or arational.
	The idea that wars are fought because of some raison d'etre that is a function of cool, calculated cost and benefit is garbage.
	If that were the case, Hitler would never have invaded the Soviet Union, and Saddam Hussein wouldn't have invaded Kuwait.
	But let's talk about what the societal problems point towards.
	And there's a connection with conflicts in the past.
	If you have millions and millions of young men who don't have access to sex, or to partners, girlfriends, wives, what usually happens, Radyard?
	It's funny.
	If you look at polygamous societies, or polygamous societies are one where one man has multiple women, and the effect of that is that a handful of men have lots of women and the bottom tier of men have none.
	And from scientific studies, we've consistently found that polygamous societies are vastly more violent than monogamous societies.
	And every single one of the top 10 countries with the most polygamy in the world today, mostly in West Africa, every single one of them is currently in a civil war.
	And And so we expect the world to be reasonable and rational, but it's really not.
	And thus, expecting the world to be reasonable is in fact unreasonable.
	And you look over history, humans resort to violence very quickly.
	And Americans can often ignore this because we are the most successful society in history.
	But Over the course of my videos, I have spent hundreds of hours trying to explain what are fundamentally two different crises which are occurring at the same time in our culture.
	The first is the political crisis, in that I predict America will have a revolution or a civil war, and I I'd say it's going to happen within the next election, and I could be wrong there, but that's what I'm throwing my cards on.
	And you also predict that because rural America controls everything in terms of the assets, the resources the cities need, it will be the conservatives who will win.
	Yes, I have made videos talking about what would a right-left civil war be, and I said the right would very easily win because, as Sebastian said, It controls a single geographically coherent region,
	while the left has a bunch of city-states scattered around the coasts.
	It has all the food, all the manufacturing, all the oil supply, and the left has a culture
	which thinks that hierarchy, discipline, masculinity, all of those things are toxic.
	How do you fight a war with that?
	On top of that, the military tilts right.
	Young men is a demographic tilt right.
	And just by every single metric, I see a marked conservative advantage over the left.
	And it always shocks me the left hasn't realized this yet.
	And so I've looked at a bunch of metrics, and I have like four or five metrics I use to measure this, but one of them is that there's a computer model that predicts when societies have revolutions, and it's based off three variables, those being average wages, income inequality, and people competing for elite jobs.
	This is predicted 20 historic crises over history between the French Revolution, the fall of the Roman Republic, the Russian Revolution, the 30 Years War, the 100 Years War, to the years they took place in.
	And this computer model 15 years ago predicted that America would have a civil war in the 2020s.
	That's the first crisis I talk about.
	The second one is the mass utopia population crash, which I also think is wrapped up with psychological issues.
	Hold that there, because I want to talk about the shocking figures you discuss about mental health amongst the 20-somethings in America.
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	All right, so it's kind of listening to, and this isn't meant to be a dig, it's just a comment
	on where we are today, that I'm listening to your latest video, not the one we were
	discussing, it's not your latest, but I'd watched it before, I was re-watching it for
	today, and I thought, hang on a second, we're not having babies.
	And that is a problem, but that's so obvious.
	A civilization that doesn't have babies dies, and the fact that nobody talks about that is kind of mind-blowing, because it's so patently obvious that that is an issue.
	It is also exacerbated by something that you commented on, that young men are increasingly trending rightward Conservative.
	Young women in the same cohort are trending left.
	And I've seen this once with dear friends of mine.
	You don't have a couple last.
	You don't have good marriages if you have diametrically opposed political views.
	Firstly, Why do you think there's a division politically between the sexes?
	What is the cause of that beyond, you know, social media or obvious answers?
	And then secondly, is that a compounding factor for us that the two sexes are diverging politically?
	It's ironic you ask this question because the videos I've recently completed that should go out soon is a message to young men becoming population crash and I've also written my manifesto that'll be coming out soon and so I will speak about all these topics in much greater depth in videos coming out soon but the short answer for the differentiation politically between the sexes is that the left has built its entire platform on appealing to women where It's in society, there is no single standard you can hold a young woman to.
	Not being sexually promiscuous, being nice, being reciprocal with men, not getting an abortion.
	be like sacrificing to their society.
	And that's been the left strategy.
	And the left has made it an industry basically out of playing that strategy.
	But since the left is the ruling class, which controls almost all the functions of society and the institutions, it then made the right, which is the faction that is in rebellion and all reality.
	It meant that young men became part of—like, they naturally facilitated towards the right,
	because the right wasn't spitting on them.
	So, let me just—because this is really very simple, but I think it's an intuitive explanation.
	Young men, or young women, were politically targeted by the left-wing establishment, the
	controlled culture.
	Their reaction to them becoming, you know, women can do no wrong, they have to be favored
	in employment and every other which way, created a natural counter-reaction from young men,
	and the— political tribe for them was one that was grounded in reality and as a result made their sympathies to that political identity even stronger.
	Yes, that's all correct.
	Fabulous.
	All right, so where does this go?
	Does it have to?
	Because You talk about the impending civil war.
	You talk about the difference between the cities and the rural centers.
	Is there any ameliorating?
	Could somebody come in politically and bridge that gap?
	Or have the sexes diverged too much?
	Does it have to be violence?
	Purpose through warfare that provides these men some meaning.
	Are we condemned to a cyclical violent event to kind of assuage all of these sociological trends?
	I constantly have about five or more mental models in my mind that I toggle between, and as I see events play out, I see which of those mental models or paradigms the event that I see fits closest into, and then I gradually gravitate towards certain paradigms.
	based upon the new incoming evidence.
	And over the last couple of years, the thing that really shocked me that I didn't predict
	was the scope of the left's nihilism, and that the left's motivations don't make sense
	except through suicide.
	But let me interject here, because this is another thing on my list.
	Nihilism, for me at least, historically, is a kind of conscious choice, right?
	You deny any order, you become anarchic.
	Here it's something a little bit different.
	I think you called it You said the left is suicidally delusional, and also the thing that I've been convinced of for years, the left's elite are stupid.
	They're no geniuses.
	Okay, George Soros has a lot of money and does stuff, but fundamentally the quote-unquote elite are astrategic, they're stupid, they're self-defeating.
	The way they're treating President Trump, it just makes him stronger.
	So are they actually nihilistic?
	Consciously?
	Or are they too stupid to understand that they're nihilists?
	It's remarkable in that we are an incredibly high IQ society in many ways.
	And just look at the chips we put into this technology.
	This is such an insanely... If you saw all the technology that went into just making the chips for these phones, it's unbelievable.
	But at the same time, we are the least wise society in history.
	And for the left, It's hard to really know how an insane person thinks, but what I would say is that they are profoundly, they may be intelligent, but their lack of wisdom makes them stupid.
	And wisdom and intelligence are not the same thing.
	And the left is obscenely good at manipulating people's emotions.
	And that's how they got into power, where they, I just find it truly remarkable, the left was able to take over every of society's major institutions, With no pushback.
	And that demonstrates a very strong comprehension of how to manipulate people psychologically.
	That being said, at actual realpolitik, at actually understanding strategy, the left is abysmal.
	If it doesn't relate to manipulating someone's psychology, the left is completely in the dark.
	You can just look to communism itself, where Mao and Stalin killed tens of millions of people through agricultural methods that just didn't work.
	They purged their entire—Stalin purged 80% of his officers before the bloodiest war in history, and these are—the left makes obscene strategic miscalculations.
	In return for increasing the psychological well-being, or in exchange for protecting the egos of its delusional members.
	And that's the great advantage the right has.
	And to jump back to an earlier question you gave, is that there are two scenarios I see.
	One is more like the revolution scenario I've seen before, and the other one is mouse utopia, where If there is a civil war and the right is victorious, then there's this reset where people realize, wait, what we're doing now is ridiculous.
	And then you see a rapprochement between the two sexes.
	There's a sanity check and we kind of, okay, that was nuts.
	And we go back to some kind of normalcy.
	Yes.
	And the other scenario is that we just keep spiraling further into mouse utopia, and we just have social breakdown.
	And I think the most likely scenario is something in between the two of them, where let's say for a majority of young women, they come back with a sanity check, but then there's a sizable portion that never do, and then they don't have children, and they're gradually weeded out of the gene pool.
	But, I mean, it's hard for me to believe that you wouldn't have some kind of Sandy Check at some point, just knowing the human condition.
	And the great thing about humanity and the world is that we're a naturally self-regulating ecosystem.
	And we look at the stock market this way, and it's why you look at all these crises over history, and the world keeps going, and I would credit God for that, that God made a self-regulating ecosystem where when one thing gets too bad, its counter reaction rises.
	And I personally don't believe that this is the end of America, in that if Mouse Utopia happens, The only way mouse utopia could destroy the American nation, because again the difference between humans and mice, is that we have the ability to plan and strategize and think abstractly, is that if the left gains total social authority, and then just makes reproduction completely impossible, and that sounds insane, and it literally fits the definition of insane, but it's only two steps crazier than the left already is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And if you get too strong feelings of pessimism, just leave the city that you're in.
	Go to the countryside and meet real Americans who live in the real world to actually work with their hands.
	He doesn't just provide us superb content on his WhatIfAltHist channel on YouTube, he's one of the few Americans I've ever heard who knows how to correctly pronounce the word Realpolitik.
	We're talking to Rudyard Lynch.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	All right, I've still got some questions to ask you.
	One request.
	I don't know if you came up with this or you borrowed it from somebody else.
	It has been my contention for decades, but you encapsulated it with just two words.
	You said, human beings are just thinly conscious.
	And it's such a powerful phrase.
	Humans think they function based upon logic.
	We don't.
	If we did, there would be no fat people out there.
	There'd be nobody that does stupid things after they went out on a Friday night and had too much
	alcohol.
	The thinly conscious state of humanity is something I would put in a request for a video on.
	Let's spend the last few minutes talking about the definition, at least, and maybe we can save it for the next video, of psychological black death.
	Talk about what that represents in 2024.
	We're doing a great speed run of all my videos.
	I congratulate that You on that, because if anyone in your audience wants to watch my videos, they'll have a pretty good understanding of a lot of the topics I talk about.
	As I was prepping for today, I thought, what is the best thing I could do for this young man?
	I can provide him the appetizer menu that people can then go off and watch the videos after they hear us chat.
	So I think I've succeeded.
	Yes.
	And the irony is that I make a lot of videos on many issues, but the reality is it's only two issues that I spend most of my videos talking about.
	That being the population, mental health crisis, and the political crisis of the Civil War.
	The thinly conscious nature of ourselves is, I think, one of the biggest reasons why people need religion.
	Because only through humility and understanding that you have a duty to a higher order can you subliminate your own insanity.
	Because if you get stuck inside yourself too much, you're just going to get lost in the maze of your own mind.
	We, this is something our society is probably the worst of any society ever, is that we confuse rationalization for rationality.
	And for the left, they'll just make an argument.
	They'll just make some random argument up and they'll say, this is the only truth.
	If you deviate this from the slightest, you're a horrible person.
	But they never actually explained why that argument is correct.
	And John Haidt's work—he's, I think, one of the most important thinkers of our time, and I'd recommend anyone watching to read John Haidt's books—but he studies the human character, and he said that people rationalize rather than reason.
	They do.
	It makes them look good for their in-group.
	Political ideologies rely off different emotional tenets and different emotional values that come from a biological basis.
	And human politics and ideology is much more animalistic and biological than we really give it credit for.
	And 90% of the population just rationalizes what they emotionally feel rather than thinking rationally about it.
	And It's just remarkable to watch, to see, with Mouse Utopia as an example, people are rationalizing the most stupid and insane things and taking them with complete seriousness.
	If you were to take someone from a different era history and tell them, yes, our society thinks committing civilizational suicide is a moral virtue, they'd be like, how did they get that stupid?
	Or, if they said, we want to destroy our own ethnicity, men or women are the same, people shouldn't have children, they'd just be like, how could you possibly think that?
	But we take this completely seriously, because the left has an emotional reaction, and then they don't think about it, and they don't reflect upon it with external sources, and this is why the authorities don't want you to read history, or be religious, or They don't want you to think because once you start thinking you realize how everything is just there's no basis to it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What there is a basis to is history, and that which has been proven to function in the real world.
	We've given you a little taste, as we will be doing every month here on America First.
	For the full panoply, for the full catalogue, follow our friend Rudyard Lynch at WhatIfAltHist on YouTube, and also on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
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	It's up to us, God willing.
	That is what will happen later this year.
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