Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Can President Trump stop RINOs' FISA renewal?
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Bye.
I don't care what the media tells you, Mr. Trump.
We support you.
Okay, 4 p.m.
Come here, let me give you a hug.
Wow, that's so good.
Thank you!
That's how my mama made it!
Thank you, sweetie.
That's really nice.
The black colleges, universities, they're taken care of now, and she understands it.
A lot of people don't understand it.
Biden did nothing for them.
I didn't understand it yesterday when we played that viral clip.
Oh, greetings.
Happy Friday!
This is America First.
I'm your host, Sebastian Gawker.
It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
It's Second Amendment Friday.
But I've got to go back to what we did yesterday.
You heard the story.
We were waiting for President Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
He stopped at Chick-fil-A.
Viral video of this black lady saying, We love you, Mr. President.
We don't care.
The media's lying.
And he says, come here and bring me a hug.
And then he starts talking about the black colleges, the historic black colleges.
What?
And why?
We found out today!
That woman is a professor at one of the historic black colleges.
Her name is Michaela Montgomery.
And good for Fox, I'll say in this instance, good for Fox.
They tracked her down and she was superb.
This is the lady who got a big old hug from 45 and God willing if we do our part 47 this morning on Fox News.
The general consensus or social media would have you thinking that if President Trump were to show up to the HBCU campuses or walk around the ABC community, that like some angry mob would form or a riot would ensue and that he would not be welcomed.
And clearly the sentiment in that room the other day was the complete opposite.
He was very welcome.
People were excited to see him.
People showed up in support of him.
And people, of course, were from all four institutions within the AUC, the local HBCU
community in Atlanta, and they all showed up in support of him.
So it's actually kind of crazy to see people in an uproar when all four institutions were
legitimately represented, and all four institutions were represented by said students who wanted
to support President Trump.
God bless you, Professor Montgomery.
I can't see you guys.
My production room camera's not on.
I don't know if Jeff's there, if he's got his headphones on.
Jeff, how long till Professor Montgomery gets cancelled?
I'm surprised she hasn't been yet, because she did that yesterday and then the follow-up interview on Fox.
That's not good.
Right.
All right.
We got your back, my dear.
Try and reach out to the college.
I know she's got a website.
Let's get her on for a longer chat on this show as well.
That would be super exciting.
Okay.
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Okay.
Fridays should be happy time.
Happy time, right?
I always go into Bright Body in the morning.
Because that's my kind of barometer.
I used to work there.
Alex, Larry, all great guys.
Matt, of course.
And I was really angry this morning when I saw a story.
Because... Well, hey, if you're in Hollywood, you really should shut up, okay?
You're paid to dress up, put on makeup, and play act, okay?
That's your job.
If you want to get political, You might think of the consequences of getting political.
My wife and I, not too long ago, finished watching the second season of the Jack Reacher TV show, which is based upon a very serious, a successful series of novels.
They made, I think they made one or two movies with Tom Cruise out of Jack Reacher.
And then they hired this absolute hulk of a man.
He looks a little bit weird.
He looks like a bodybuilder, a bit of a meathead, but he was perfect for the role.
This individual, we've got the headline from Breitbart, Alan Richson.
Reacher star Alan Richson attacks Christians who support rapist Trump.
He's their poster child.
Now, I presume he wants to have a third and fourth season.
They've probably already filmed the third season.
Well, I'm not gonna watch it.
No way on hell I'm gonna watch it.
And I'm not the only American, because this is what this actor says about you.
If you go to church on Sunday and you voted for President Trump in 16, if you voted for him in 20, if you're going to vote for him on November 5th, this is what he thinks of you in an interview he just gave.
Quote from the star of Jack Reacher.
Trump is a racist, Trump is a rapist and a con man and yet the entire Christian church seems to treat him like he's their poster child and it's unreal.
I don't understand it.
Christians today have become the most vitriolic tribe.
It's so antithetical to what Jesus was calling us to be and to do.
Well, let's stop there.
Let's ignore the Trump comments for a second.
So, you vote Republican as a Christian, it's antithetical to Jesus.
But if you vote Democrat, what are you voting for?
Oh yeah, 900,000 abortions every year by Planned Parenthood in America alone.
You're voting for open borders, the rape of girls by the coyotes.
Up to 60% of the women and children trafficked across the border are raped.
You're voting for lawless democrat cities.
You're voting for the support of our enemies like Iran.
So, Eric, is that what Christians do?
Are Christians meant to be pro-abortion, pro-Iran, pro-rape of young girls?
According to the modern left, this is one of the few things that grinds my gears more than anything else, is leftists, like this guy and Democrats and so many others, who don't believe in Christianity.
You know, like, we don't believe in your fictional sky god and fake book whatever, but we're going to tell you what you should believe as Christians.
I cannot stand that.
And this guy allegedly calls himself a Christian, and then he says, the Christians who vote for Trump Really?
Let's just put that text up back on so everybody can see what this person said in his interview.
That Trump is a rapist and a conman?
What about Clinton?
He actually raped women.
There are actually women who have said, and still say for decades, that he raped them.
Are you voting for the Democrats who had no problem with that?
And we're the ones who've become the most vitriolic tribe?
It's peculiar that there seems to be no problem for this Hollywood star when it comes to the vitriol, the vituperation of Democrats.
Your president, I presume he voted for Biden.
Your president, Mr. Richson.
have called half of America extremists.
His FBI is surveilling Catholics who go to Latin Mass.
We can't give the full details, but Jeff, what did you see with regards to this actor, was it a former SEAL, said something about him on Twitter?
Yeah, he said, let me see if I can clean this up, he said You're not a tough guy, you just play a tough guy.
So, something off.
So, beep off, right?
And who was that?
Was that Rob O'Neill?
Yeah, that was a real tough guy.
That was a real tough guy.
And by the way, that actor has bipolar.
I know, the rest of the interview he talks about how depressed he gets and bipolarity and it's like, yeah, you're an actor, okay?
We really don't need to know that, okay?
Shut your pie hole about your mental problems and your political views.
Keep doing your play acting.
Okay, I'm getting it out of my system.
If you want the man back, who is a real tough guy, and oh my, is he a tough guy, then wear the t-shirt of the booking photograph of my former boss.
It just says 2024 Trump.
You are on the team.
Get the mug as well.
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Shaves his chest.
I mean, just come on.
I would bet he was told to say that.
Probably.
That was probably part of the contract negotiations.
Publicity agent, yeah.
I'll stick to the Tom Cruise movies.
At least he loves his audience.
Right.
What do you want to call that?
Also, Dinesh title as well.
Yeah, for that... Jack reaches no tough guy.
But he's on the side of the rapists.
But...
Mm-hmm. According to Wikipedia, he was a model for Abercrombie & Fitch.
Yeah, he was.
He was a model, yeah.
And isn't he, like, actually, like, seven feet tall or something?
Like, he's, like... He's massive.
I mean, he's at least, like, 320.
I mean, he's huge.
And it's funny, because in every episode, he walks into another... Because he's on the run the whole time, or he doesn't have anywhere to live.
He lives in motels.
And he goes into thrift stores to buy a new set of clothes.
And you go, dude, there's nothing in a thrift store that's XXX, okay?
You couldn't get your neck into one of these shirts.
So bad.
I'll stick to Terminal List, I guess.
Yeah, I don't think he's gonna go work.
That's what's so dumb.
They're more concerned about winning the election than business.
Yeah.
Uh, title for Dinesh?
Um, I wrote something down... and I can't read it as good.
I do that a lot.
Oh, um...
It's fun to be on the front line.
On the front line.
It's fun to be on the front lines.
Yep.
Do I have to be nice to Jeremy Boring, Geoff?
No.
No.
Okay, I'm gonna tweet this out.
I'm gonna tweet this out.
No, you... You are so weak.
The contract's re-signed, right?
Yeah.
You are so weak.
America wants President Trump back.
Get over yourself.
It's not about Jeremy the God King.
Mm-hmm.
How's that?
Is that alright?
Well, I'd ask what lounge he's playing at, the saxophone at, tonight, too.
It's not about the God King or your razors.
Check check!
Mic's on.
We got you.
Picture's perfect.
Mic's are hot.
70 seconds.
Hey, buddy.
How you doing?
Hey, how come you weren't at the event for Heritage?
Yeah, I had to do the daily podcast.
I just got back from traveling to Montana trying to find a new home, and then I realized, too, I can't be on a stage with you and Garrett at the same time.
I thought I had a good grip.
Why?
You know?
What?
You guys are both too big.
I can't be doing that.
You'll make me look like a midget.
I can't be doing that kind of thing.
Plus, didn't you have a doctor show up?
Yeah, I missed the morning panel and then I came back in the afternoon and we had a great dinner.
We missed you.
We missed you.
Yeah, I would have enjoyed it.
My wife and I are struggling with just little baby teething.
Oh my gosh, how old's the baby?
Uh, she's seven months old, and then my oldest is six years old, so you can figure they're all spattered.
Oh my god, and where are you moving to?
We're trying to move to Montana.
Cool.
We don't get over here.
Texas.
Alright, I'm gonna tee up the, um, the Chinese, the Cut 3.
Cut 3.
After the cruise.
After the cruise.
Alrighty.
On the side of the U.S. Congress.
Constitution.
America first.
A bit of Stranglers.
Golden Brown.
All right.
Classic.
Rocket.
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you.
I think we're down to the wire.
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All right a good buddy of mine sent me this morning a really cool video of somebody called Lily Tang utterly completely demolishing that diminutive individual David Hogg who Eric, did he ever, like, create his pillow company?
Did David Hogg ever, like, defeat Mike Lindahl?
I forgot about that.
I still couldn't get over the fact that he actually got into Harvard, even though his ex-timeline shows that he still can't do basic spelling.
But yeah, I forgot.
No, still nothing on Hogg Pillow, or whatever he was going to call it.
All right, so Hogg was trying to say we don't need guns in America, you know, guns are bad, and this is what our buddy Lily Tang said.
Cut three.
Hi, my name is Lily Tang Williams.
Welcome to my live free or die state.
Actually, I am a Chinese immigrant who survived communism.
And under Mao, you know, 40 million people were starving to death after he sold communism to them.
And 20 million people died, murdered during his Cultural Revolution.
So my question to you, David, is that can you guarantee me a gun owner tonight?
Our government in the U.S.
in D.C.
will never, never become a tyrannical government.
Can you guarantee that to me?
There's no way I can ever guarantee that any government will not be tyrannical.
Well then the debate on gun control is over because I will never give up my guns.
Never.
Never.
And you should go to China to see how gun control works for dictatorship of CCP.
Mic dropped.
Lily Tang.
Who sent that to me?
One of the true heroes of the FBI, Kyle Serafin.
Happy Friday!
Welcome back to America First, my buddy.
Uh, happy Friday.
Yeah, I'm kind of excited that you're going to Alaska in June.
That's pretty cool.
I know!
You can join us, why don't you?
Is that really a poster of Point Break on the back of your office?
Oh yeah, for sure.
X-Files, Point Break.
You are as much of a nerd as I am.
That is so cool.
Silence of the Lambs.
There it is.
It's what?
It's the FBI we hoped it would be, the FBI we thought it would be, and what the FBI maybe ought to be.
I don't know.
Something like that.
I like that.
I like that.
Okay, so why did you send around that tweet of Lilly?
Oh, because it just dismantles it.
The beta pillow company never got off the ground.
And, you know, it's like, this is about government tyranny.
We're currently experiencing it.
We're seeing that there's failures that we're going to go after and apparently pass FISA the way that it was written so the American government can spy on us.
And even though the Biden administration is acknowledging it violates the Fourth Amendment, Second Amendment is the only one.
It's the last domino.
I always tell people it's the last domino, not just for America, but for the world.
So it's the last guarantee of our liberty, you with a gun.
It's not about hunting, it's not even about self-defense.
Will you explain, because there's so much disinformation swirling around right now, what FISA was, and what it became, and why it's a threat to American liberty?
Yeah, shockingly, we made it through most of the Cold War without FISA.
It was passed in the late 1970s, right?
I mean, that's the crazy thing.
We won the Cold War without it.
It became an invaluable resource for the national intelligence sort of apparatus to be able to spy on our enemies.
So that's okay.
So it starts off as Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
That's the goal.
They expanded it to terrorism after 9-11, and that sort of makes sense if you're kind of a neocon or if you look at the world and say there's a lot of bad terrorists and there are also a lot of more overseas.
But the problem is, is we kind of outgrew that.
And then the real danger is when they added this thing called 702, which has kind of always existed.
It's a very low bar to be able to FISA people that are in overseas places.
But 702 FISA is designed for non-US based, non-US person intelligence operatives.
And so it's supposed to be Chinese spy in China who is not in the United States.
And if said spy comes to the United States, we're supposed to discontinue 702 right there.
But right before Donald Trump got into office, apparently the Obama administration authorized the FBI
to have it in a warehouse that they contained, which was called DWS, and I worked in it for two years.
And they not only gave it that, but they allowed two hops, which meant that not just Chinese spy in China
could be covered, which is how it's written, but also you could also grab the next person
that that person was talking to, and then the person that that person was talking to.
So concentric circles that were much bigger, and now... Including US citizens, correct?
Right.
Because, of course, if you're a criminal investigator, an 1811 FBI agent, and your job is to go find Chinese spies or Russian spies or Iranian spies or anything else, the interesting people are probably not the non-US-based people that are never going to come to the US.
It's the people they're interacting with to get Passage material, which is classified information that we're trying to defend.
So those are the people we're most interested in, but that's actually the people who were expressly forbidden from going after until the 2016 change, which basically allowed this domestic spying apparatus to go off the rails.
And that's why we've said, go get a warrant.
You'd have to get it for anything else.
You'd even have to get a true FISA.
702 is not even the same burden as a traditional FISA.
You can write up a 702 in the morning, But a real FISA, a full FISA investigation takes months to put together and usually weeks worth of background research and then there's, you know, days of arguing in front of the FISC, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
So it's a lengthy process with a real rigorous bar.
Doesn't mean they didn't lie on it with people like Kevin Clinesmith, but it's supposed to actually have a little bit of safety blow-off valves, and you don't have that when we're talking about 702.
Why?
With a 702 warrantless surveillance, what is the bar?
That, oh, maybe this person could be potentially a problem?
It essentially starts with this person is an overseas intelligence operative, and we
know they're not in the United States.
We'd like to grab everything they have.
Then we find out who they're involved in.
I've never written a second hop, but the hops basically are, they're talking to fill in
the blank US person.
They're talking to Seb Gorka.
So we'd like to find out about Seb.
And by the way, Seb's talking to Kyle.
So we'd like to know what's going on in Kyle.
And people have to understand how dramatic this data warehouse is.
I click through it.
I put your name in there.
I'm looking at your email box.
I'm finding your spam.
I'm finding out that you're going on a cruise.
I find out the documents that you're sending back and forth to the insurance company.
I'm reading your inbox.
You just can't see that.
So why does the Fourth Amendment suddenly not apply?
Bye.
Well, it's really inconvenient because it takes a little while to go get a warrant.
No, no, but why does this warehouse of information, why is it not prevented by the Fourth Amendment and undue search and seizure?
How can it exist, Kyle?
It shouldn't.
It shouldn't exist at all.
OK, good.
That's the thing.
It should.
I'm just being difficult.
All right, he'll be with us.
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Well, do we have that that Soviet the theme from Red October?
Yeah, I can get that.
That's so good, I never get tired of that.
Even though it is Soviet.
Real quick, so did you want to use that tweet that you sent me for talking to Kyle?
Which one?
The Jordane Carney tweet that you sent me.
What was it about?
Put it on screen.
Memo.
Thank you.
to her.
Just for your...
Thank you.
Uh, explain this to me, uh, Kyle.
Yeah, she's a Politico reporter.
She said this was a memo that was circulating from the Biden administration for people to vote in favor of or not in favor of the amendment to put the warrant requirement.
So she was against the warrant.
Sorry, the Biden administration was against the warrant requirement.
Okay.
And explicitly acknowledges that it's against the Constitution, because it says that going to get a warrant would be a pain in the ass.
And who wrote the memo?
It's attributed to the Biden administration.
Wow, good.
All right, we'll use that.
Yes, that's it.
Beautiful.
I got the other Maxine Waters.
Make it cut 15.
Okay, great.
Do you want to use, like, Conan Best in Life at some point?
Yes, totally.
We'll use that in, uh... I have the video.
We'll use that with, um, maybe Jim.
So good.
You are such a geek.
You're as bad as I am, dude.
Really am.
I named my son Bodhi.
You know that?
While I was an agent.
Why'd you call him about it?
And I was like, because he was in the he's in point break and they're like, isn't he the bad guy?
And I'm like, no, he got away from the FBI.
He's a good guy.
Do you have, do you have the ex president masked as well for Halloween?
I do not, but that will come.
He's not old enough yet.
He's three.
So that was such a cool movie.
It catches people off guard when you are an agent and you tell them the FBI is The bad guy in that movie.
I mean, he laid on the ground and fired his gun in the air.
That guy should have been OPR'd.
Yeah, totally.
Totally.
Totally.
Also, the only really good one was Gary Busey.
Busey, who died.
Best Gary Busey movie, I think.
Yeah, when he's up there doing the surf thing.
That's how you're supposed to have a training agent.
Have you seen my dog?
I've lost my dog!
He's so weird.
I saw a guy create this He created a scale of judging cars based on how aesthetically pleasing they were.
And he called it the Gary Busey scale of ugly.
And it was from zero to Gary Busey.
And Gary Busey was like, um, you know, he was like the Ford Pinto.
The Pontiac Aztec was one of them.
It was just like, oh, it's Gary Busey.
It's terrible.
The PT Cruiser.
For sure.
Yeah.
The Chevy HHR.
My aunt had one in England.
She thought she was so cool that she had a PT Cruiser.
That's a really strange choice.
Also one of the most satisfying knockouts in a movie when he knocks out John McGinley.
Respect my elders!
I might use 10 with Kyle.
Cut 10, alright.
Oh yes.
Is it from Route House?
Because I just watched that again.
Apparently they remade it, Seb.
They're remaking all the good stuff.
I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard.
So bad.
Why do they do that to us?
Because they don't write.
They're lazy and they don't write.
The original photo house wasn't very good, but it's kind of, you know, it was cheesy.
It was just cheesy.
I liked it.
I like the monster.
I like the monster.
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We're back with one of the suspendables, the true agents of the FBI, whistleblowers who
believe in the Constitution and what FBI stood for way back when, Kyle Serafin.
Carl, just before we started, you sent me this tweet from a left-wing journalist.
Allegedly, it's a memo written by the Biden administration regarding Pfizer and our buddy Andy Biggs.
What does this memo written by the Biden administration say about spying on Americans?
It's that is really important and having a warrant would be troublesome and problematic that the exceptions that are required, the amendment to query American's information would really just slow down the work of the government, which is busy trying to spy and stop terrorism.
I spent two years in the SCIFs in Washington, D.C.
I spent three years running around, including my first trip to Alaska, which was in June, of all things, 2018.
And it turns out that the threat of terrorism is mostly overblown, at least when the FBI is aware of it, by the time that happens.
but they also mention things like we've got to make sure that we're detecting
russian war crimes which i don't know where that falls to the fbi's purview
but sure and uh... disrupt federal supply chains
we have an awful lot of fennel coming into our country right now with a poor
son border it turns out that they've had all these tools it's not working we can
pretty much tell that so these are uh...
you know they've already kind of proven the opposite of what this memo is claiming other than they
are sort of admitting that there
but the constitution is a burden and they really are you know what warrants is just it's
just such a hassle and you know that those fentanyl we wouldn't we wouldn't
have to track that fentanyl if you know that the guy
in the white house hadn't opened the borders maybe christopher ray could tell
by the uh... no kamala the borders are in a maybe chris for a could tell the
borders are in a bit Just shut down the border and then we won't have to have warrantless searches on Americans.
We missed you.
We had an amazing event at Heritage earlier this week on the weaponization of the FBI and the intelligence community.
Your suspendable colleagues, Garrett O'Borle, Steve Friend and others were there.
The event was amazing and I doffed my cap to Heritage for holding it.
The dinner afterwards was even worse than I thought.
Garrett And, well, I'm not going to say who disclosed it, it was a Hill staffer, but the people who are supposed to like America, who have the R behind their name on Capitol Hill, in many cases they're a threat to you, the whistleblowers, Kyle.
And I didn't realize that.
Yeah, they're a real problem, aren't they?
Your opening monologue was great.
Do your stinking job.
I just want that to trend as a hashtag if people want to make it out there.
I just quote tweeted you on Twitter where we go and try to share information with people.
Apparently, the people who don't have the wherewithal to pick up the phone and call Kyle Serafin, whose phone number is in the Rolodex of a number of these types, They're also personally hurt when I tweet things that are not nice about their staff not doing the job.
And yeah, there's a lot of people that hold on to information that really ought to be in the hands up.
We're constantly getting, whenever we have direct access to a member of Congress, and we tell them, hey, do you know that Appendix G is a classified single paragraph that allows the FBI to open This should be front page news.
The FBI can open intelligence investigations on everybody.
alleging a crime, maybe even alleging that you're a victim of targeting by another country,
that particular paragraph is being used to open these sort of intelligence investigations.
Do you know that I reported that to members of Congress in 2021 and they have no idea
what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
This should be front page news.
The FBI can open intelligence investigations on everybody, you and me included.
So let's just cut to the chase.
I think we need to have Kyle back for an hour, Jeff.
Let's table him.
I know we've got a long list, but we need to get deeper on these issues.
We need to get rid of the FBI.
It pains me to say that.
The big mission baskets are CT, CI, and CRIM.
Counter-terrorism.
No, counter-intelligence we can give to the Defense Department.
Criminal, I think other agencies can deal with that.
Who do we give the CT portion to, Kyle?
I'm just curious, where would you park that?
I think I would spread it around.
They've already got the JTTF sort of apparatus put together.
Those people are already Title 18 deputized, so leave that in place if you want, and let them run it on a state level where they actually have all the actual networks of sources.
Because, you know, all this stuff ends up being... Most of the FBI's CT mission is creating terrorism.
We just saw it in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
They went after an 18-year-old.
They arrested him for swearing allegiance to ISIS.
And then you go and you look into it, and my buddies, Gerardo Boyle specifically, I sent it over to him and he goes, So was it an undercover or a CHS?
And we open it up, the first line of the probable cause statement is an online CHS.
Explain what a CHS is.
Yeah, it's a confidential human source.
So this is just somebody who's working on behalf of the FBI.
So an asset of the FBI was turned into the suspect for the case.
So yet another, just like, you know, Governor Whitmer on and on and on.
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Phil, Philly, line one.
Hey, Dr. G. Thanks for taking the call.
We know that these Dems play for the long game, that they're playing chess, we play checkers.
When Christopher Wright comes out and says, we're going to have an attack on this, we know it's going to happen near election time.
And if it does happen near election time, they're going to shut down them polls.
There's one way to secure this election for President Trump.
As soon as we can get our hands on our ballot, we mail them in.
but we not only mail them in, you can contact your state and put in your social security number,
whatever your confidential code, and you can get a copy of your ballot
on a state certified site.
That needs to be punted over via email to an established email at the RNC.
This way, the RNC can keep an accurate account.
This way, if those attacks happen and they say, oh, well, you know, the polls are closed
and we can only count what we have and Biden got 80 million votes,
the RNC may be able to turn around and say, hey, we got 120 million.
And this could be for Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
If you're going to vote for President Trump, send him a copy of your email showing you voted for President Trump.
Yeah, every state is different.
I'm not sure the way that data is stored is unified across all states and also federally it would be impossible for them to shut down polling stations because those polling stations aren't run by the federal government.
The Constitution is clear.
It is the states that run the voter stations, the polling stations, even if it's for a federal
election.
But to your first point, Phil, yeah, they do play the long game.
And all this talk of the imminent threat, yeah, I would not be surprised if there's
not some skullduggery already being planned.
But the idea that the feds can just shut down state and county locations.
I'm not sure it would be that easy, but we must be prepared.
And it's good that Lara Trump is there.
She's going to be on my show on Sunday on Newsmax.
First guest, Lara Trump.
I'm so excited to hear what she's doing at the RNC as the new co-chair.
Let's go to Arizona, Dave, line two.
Thank you, Dr. G. Hey.
Ultramaga, big sour war room.
Condre Dittus from State 48, sir.
Thank you kindly.
What's your comment?
What's your question?
Well, before I get to my topic, I want to give a great hat tip to you and Ms.
Katie.
You guys have been amazing this week on War Room and other outlets.
It's great.
It's good to see you both.
Bannon was so flipping excited.
When he heard that she smoked the opposition for her GOP chair election on Saturday by 40 points, he texted me straight away and said, can we get her on War Room immediately?
So yeah, Steve was very excited.
We all have to do our part, right?
Put our shoulder to the wheel.
Yeah.
We're doing it here in State 48.
I'm a precinct committeeman here.
Good.
And we're all doing our part, right?
God bless.
God bless.
Thank you.
What did you want to comment on?
Well, the big thing is vacate the chair.
But before I jump into that, let me ask you, did you like the label?
I've gotten banned to use on a few occasions.
Call them the Establishment Class.
The Establishment Class.
That's good.
That's good.
I like that.
I like that.
I'm writing it down right now, Dave.
The Establishment Class.
It's good.
It's a little bit, you know, it's not as negative and as mean as I'd like it, but I'm writing it down.
Perfect.
And again, I'll go back to my PSU days.
We argued about this for a couple months.
Vacate the chair.
We did it with Kevin McSwampy, and unfortunately we need to do it with Johnson as well.
Alright, hold the line, hold the line, hold the line, because we were debating this in our pre-production meeting today.
Jeff, you surprised me.
You said something interesting about vacating the chair or rocking the boat for the next seven months.
What did you say, Jeff?
I said don't rock the boat, ride it out, don't give them anything to play on.
If they did something like the FISA and there's one terrorist attack, they will hammer that.
Just let it all be on the Democrats.
Dave, do you think we're not getting too close to the election to do it again?
As my grandfather told me at an early age, there's never a wrong time to do the right thing.
It was the same argument I gave you with Kevin McSwampy.
If Johnson's not telling the line and doing the will of the people, he needs to be thrown out.
And I actually would welcome the chance for Congress not to pass any more bills and spend more of my kids' and grandkids' taxpayer dollars.
If the government shut down, guess what?
That's a win-win for us patriots.
Yeah.
Thank you, buddy.
Great, great food for thought.
Let's go to California, somewhere in California.
Mike, line three.
How you doing, Dr. Gorka?
Good.
I just want to start with a little phrase that I heard a while back.
Human beings are very, very selfish people.
Yes.
The abortion issue, which I'd like to talk about ever since I started voting, Every election, anybody that was running door catcher, mayor, governor, president, the first thing they ask them is, what's your stand on abortion?
And if they didn't answer it the right way, they were done.
You're breaking up, you're breaking up.
Carry on.
Hello?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're mobile.
Make your last point.
Okay, my last point is, Abortion has been in the elections for years, and we never win because that's all they use.
And the reason is because women, who have to have sex all the time, I don't care where they have it or how they do it, are too lazy and too ignorant to take a birth control pill.
That's why our country is going to be destroyed.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I think that's the summation of the issue.
It's not because they're too lazy, Mike.
I would say quite the opposite.
It's because they have been told, or it's been culturally normalized, that it's a form of contraception.
It's not the taking of a life.
It's indoctrination.
It's far more wicked than laziness.
I don't think a woman wants to become pregnant, but pregnancy itself is not understood as a human life.
It's a much, much deeper thing, Mike.
But I've been philosophizing on this for three days now.
Why is the abortion, for all the nations out there, Abortion isn't a political issue like it is here.
Maybe it'll be my next article, but thank you friends.
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Why?
Why?
Why are they talking about OJ?
Why wouldn't they?
It's a huge story.
It's not a huge story.
It was 30 years ago.
It doesn't matter.
It's one of the most famous people and stories that you know.
No really.
This is amazing.
You give me shit for liking science fiction and you're into the OJ Simpson trial.
Yeah.
I'm just saying it was a major news event.
That was fiction.
That was fiction too.
No, it wasn't.
It was real.
It happened.
That he didn't kill them?
That's a fiction.
Of course, that's part of the deal.
It's that he got off.
It's how he threw his life away.
He was one of the most liked people.
It's unbelievable.
Highly publicized trials of the century is basically an American tradition.
We basically did kind of create this insanity of life.
And it's kind of the first time people saw TVs in the courtroom and everything, too.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Are you on Jeff's side, Eric?
On this?
Yeah, the O.J.
Simpson trial is absolutely- Like that clip you had from- everyone's discovering that.
That's from that documentary.
It was a five-part thing on ESPN.
I watched it like- But that was much later.
Yeah, that was during the anniversary.
I watched it like ten times.
And then there was the show with Cuba Goody Jr.
playing O.J.
You watched the documentary ten times?
I've watched that thing so many times, yeah.
Okay, this is disturbing.
There was racial tension then, there is racial tension now.
It might not be the backdrop of the Trump campaign, but until this country is ready to actually have an honest conversation about the racial dynamics from our origin story till today, we will always have moments like O.J.
Simpson that manifest and our country will always be divided if we don't actually deal with the issue of race.
So, uh, you're murdering your wife because she's white because of racism.
Jeff, I guess that's not the racism that CNN analyst was thinking, that it's the black people killing the white people.
Yeah, and I love that, uh, thing they always repeat, that it's time to have a conversation about race.
For the last 15 years, every day, that's all they do is talk about race.
But now we finally, now's the time to have a conversation about race.
Can we just shut up about OJ?
I've had enough.
You're obsessed with it, so is Eric.
Alex, can we just move on?
Are you interested in OJ?
Not at all.
Is there a reason why it should be?
No, absolutely not.
Thank you.
Let's go to Rick in Phoenix Line 5.
Hi there, Dr. Gorka.
Great program today, as always.
I've got a couple of movie suggestions.
Good!
Hang on, let me get my movie list out.
Alright, we've got to squeeze in one more call, so be quick.
What are your recommendations?
First one is Open Range with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner, and possibly the most authentic Western shootout ever filmed.
Wow, I have never heard of it.
Oh my gosh.
Alright.
The shootout is worth the whole movie.
I've written it down.
What's your second one, Rick?
Second one is Inception with Leo DiCaprio.
Oh, I love it.
That's a modern movie.
I love it.
I was discussing it with my daughter this morning, the whole dream sequences.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Thank you, Rick.
They're on the list.
Let's go to Nancy in Philadelphia.
Hello, Dr. Gorka Man.
Greetings.
What is your topic?
What is your comment, your question?
Am I the only one who noticed that while Christopher Wray was testifying in front of Congress about threats to America, for example, from Islamists, that there were women sitting behind him on either side with Arabic scarves, raised blood-red hands, a Gaza tattoo on the arm, and a shirt that said, Palestinians' blood is on your hands.
These are the people who said death to America, and they're there in Congress.
I saw it.
I saw it on the clips yesterday.
Very, very astute of you.
Stay on the line, Nancy.
Let's give Nancy a copy of Defeating Jihad.
Where's Lori from Pennsylvania?
I miss Lori.
She was fabulous.
But yes, it was shocking.
They were in the room.
With those blood-drenched symbolic palms of their hands.
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All right, let's play this cut.
We played it from Wednesday and Mar-a-Lago.
I think I might have to use it tonight on Newsmax as well.
It's good.
I like it.
It's about me.
And God bless the 45th President of the United States, soon to be the 47th President of the
United States.
Thank you.
That voice is still great.
He hasn't lost an ounce.
You're amazing.
Thank you very much.
It's been such an incredible song for all of us.
It's been with us for a long time, right from the beginning.
And we appreciate it.
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Thank you.
I know you do.
And thank you very much.
So I just got back from a little tour.
We went to Atlanta and then we went to Orlando.
I left at about six fifty nine this morning.
And I just got back.
But we raised about $14 million, which I think is good.
But the other night was better because we drove down the street about two blocks.
And we raised $52 million, and that's the highest amount of money ever raised, ever in a day, or whatever they say.
But I know it broke the record.
Crooked Joe Biden went to Radio City Music Hall, where they clip you good, and he raised $24 million.
But I think his net, his net is going to be probably half of that.
They will clip him for at least half.
And with us, and by the way, we have a great group.
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Sebastian Gorka.
Linda McMahon.
Look at that.
My man, you're here.
I gotta do a show.
Are you okay?
Everything good?
You're doing good?
You're doing better than ever.
Newsmax is doing a great job.
We appreciate it.
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President Trump giving shoutouts to Linda McMahon.
My colleague Eric Bolling from Newsmax and myself.
A wonderful evening just a few days ago at Mar-a-Lago.
But it could have been better because one person was missing.
We call him the Baron.
And he's on the line right now.
Let's check in with the President, Senior Advisor and Attorney Boris Epstein.
Boris, we missed you in Mar-a-Lago.
I missed you too.
It sounded like a wonderful evening, but it's always to be an honor to be with you on your show and to be with the audience.
So I arrived super early.
I was the first person there and I hid in the corner and I lit up a cigar and I thought, where's Boris?
And I even sent you a photograph.
Are you working night and day supporting the president?
Working non-stop.
It's my honor.
You know, what we have to do to save this country, because President Trump is the only one who can bring our country back to greatness.
We need to save this country, and we'll only be saved by President Donald J. Trump.
So, you know, I'm a small part of the team.
We're all working away, and we will bring President Trump back to the Oval Office, Jan.
20, 2025.
All right.
So, I want to talk about geopolitical things with you, but first, because...
The president that day left Mar-a-Lago at 6 a.m.
He flew to Atlanta.
He had an event there.
He flew to Orlando.
He did the viral Chick-fil-A moment as well.
Then he came to see us, gave a speech without notes, with no teleprompter, at 10 o'clock at night for 40 minutes.
Boris, I gotta ask you, because you've worked for him longer than I did, how do you keep up with that tempo?
President Trump is absolutely unparalleled.
I mean, the amount of energy, the ability to be on at all times is something that's, frankly, reminiscent of Iron Man.
I do my best, we all do what we can, but nobody outworks President Trump.
He's working for the American people literally 24-7, fighting for the American people 24-7, and you're right.
That kind of energy, that kind of ability.
I mean, look at Atlanta, that wonderful event and the moment.
And that chick-fil-a, him and those young African-American women, giving him hugs, telling him how much they support him.
President Trump is the champion of the American people because they see themselves in him.
The American people are hardworking, they're dedicated, and they're tough.
And that's who President Trump is.
Now, for four years, when we were in the White House, when the President was the Commander-in-Chief, not only did we have the biggest economy the world had ever seen and a secure border, geopolitically, the world was stable.
There were no new wars.
America was respected.
Our enemies feared us, including Vladimir Putin.
I have to get your reaction to this impending Iranian threat and the State Department and the White House in this reaction.
I don't feel, as an American, very safe right now.
Do you, Barron?
It's complete and total psychosis.
The Iranians are saying to the United States, we are going to hit Israel, we're going to attack Israel, your greatest ally, and you, United States, better stand down.
And what do we get in response from our so-called leadership?
Feebleness.
Absolutely nothing.
Oh, okay.
The mullahs in Iran, the terrorist regime in Iran, absolutely seems to believe that they are the bosses and America is subservient to them.
And that is how Let's be honest, that started long, long ago with John Kerry trying to be his best friend to the Iranians.
Obviously, the horrible JCPOA deal that was partially, in large part, negotiated by Jake Sullivan.
This administration and the Democrats overall are a complete disaster geopolitically.
They have set America back by decades.
And they have made not just our allies, but our adversaries also disrespect us.
America is not respected.
It was under President Trump, and it will be again when President Trump is back in the Oval Office.
Well, we have to get him there.
In the meantime, he's facing a barrage of lawfare assaults against him.
Just when you thought it couldn't get more absurd, outré, and corrupt, we have the story of Judge Merchant.
out of New York and his 35-year-old daughter, who I've never heard of, who makes millions
of dollars through her Democrat consulting firm every year, but $3.2 million from Adam Schiff's
campaign by herself, and she's using these cases to raise funds.
Now, you're an attorney.
How is this possible in America that the judge sitting over President Trump's case has a daughter raising millions of dollars off that specific case, Baron?
Well, Sebastian, President Trump's legal team this week filed motion after motion after motion fighting against this partisan Biden trial, crooked Joe Biden trial, this witch hunt against President Trump on everything from the deep conflicts that the judge has to the fact that President Trump's constitutional rights, the Sixth Amendment rights of fair trial, has been violated to this unconstitutional First Amendment-violating gag order that's been placed on President Trump This whole canard is one big conspiracy by Crooked Joe Biden and his hacks and thugs, as President Trump puts them, to attack the president and to attack the American people and to try and prevent them from electing President Trump back into the Oval Office.
This is election interference, but it will not succeed, because President Trump will end up winning all of these hoaxes.
He'll beat back the witch hunts, and he will win the election.
And how is he doing on Wednesday night?
Although he travelled the nation, he looked in fine form.
How is he doing when it comes to morale, Boris?
Here's what I'll tell you.
You know this better than anybody.
President Trump is fully focused on making America great again.
That is not a slogan.
It is an action item.
There's no time like the present to fight for our country, to get our country back.
And that's all he's doing.
Of course, his team, we are fully focused on helping him with that every day, every minute, every hour.
And that's what it's all about.
President Trump is fighting.
As you saw, he's a happy warrior.
He's now going to put up with these witch hunts.
He's going to continue to fight back, both on social media and in his public appearances tomorrow.
Another robust rally coming from Pennsylvania.
So you're going to continue to see President Trump out there fighting the witch hunts, defeating the witch hunts, as he marches back to the Oval Office.
All right, Eric, you need to entitle this segment MAGA.
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I'm going, where am I going?
I'm going to Brussels, Madrid and Budapest.
Oh my gosh.
And then I need to get back to you.
You said something about a Baltic event.
What was that?
It's too late.
It's happened.
No, it's not happened.
The trip's filled up.
I didn't think it was... I just thought I'd ask.
No, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Got a good crew going.
It's... who's going?
Zuckerman, McFarland...
Wilkie.
Oh good.
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I don't know Boyce.
He used to be in the State Department.
Good guy.
I was very impressed with the guy who organized the weaponization symposium this week.
Mike Howell.
Impressive.
He's a real go-getter.
Real go-getter.
He's good.
You guys are doing good stuff.
Yeah.
Must be.
Because the hate mail keeps getting worse.
What?
The hate mail keeps getting worse.
It must be doing great.
We've got an article in the Daily Coast today.
It's like Heritage is polishing the jack boots for the Trump administration.
I didn't even know the Daily Coast had existed.
I was like, it was unbelievable.
What did I say?
The Darth Vader of think tanks.
They're so unimaginative.
And it's so bad.
Oh, Jeff, we need to do Casio.
Yeah, I forgot.
Let's go.
Are you ready?
2, 9, 11, and 13.
So 2.
Remember the man who started it all and what he said way back when?
Here's Obama with the promise Biden kept.
President Trump's finally spoken out about RFK Jr.
Next line.
Genius tactic.
Just listen.
Then, can you put 11 with Maxine?
Tell Cassio to splice them together.
Yep.
Look, Maxine Waters is complaining about the harassment that she told the Democrats to execute against the Trump cabinet.
And then... 70 seconds. 13.
Who's that?
Who's Yanis Pappas?
He's a comedian.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It may be comedy, but it's true.
just listen to at Yanis Pappas.
45.
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you Yesterday in the Rose Garden, the president said that when he came into office, inflation was skyrocketing, but it was 1.4% in January of 2021, and that was the 11th consecutive month at that time, under 2%.
So it was the president misleading Americans.
So when the president took office, and you know this, there was a pandemic.
It was closing down businesses, closing down schools.
And so it was drastically disrupting the supply chain.
Let's not forget about that.
And so that's what was going on.
And that caused inflation around the world to increase.
We know that.
And then further increasing Excuse me?
inflation was the Russia's war, Russia's war in Ukraine.
And in fact, many other countries are even worse off because of that, because of what we've seen
with Russia's war.
Excuse me? Inflation? Now that's Putin's fault?
What else are they going to explain by way of Russia, Russia, Russia?
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What is there that you can't blame on the Russians?
I'm curious.
Look, I, and I always got to preface when I say this particular comment because I'm
not a Republican.
Heritage is not a Republican think tank.
It's a nonpartisan think tank.
So when I say these things, I know it sounds like some ranting guy or something, you know,
complaining about the other team.
But all I'm doing is just talking about what the other team's actually doing.
So to try to blame economics, right, on other people, this is an administration which told the Ukrainians recently, stop bombing Russian oil facilities.
Now, at the same time, they're actually letting the Russians import oil, and it's creating economic growth.
Hang on, that doesn't make sense.
Yes, so stop bombing the Russian oil facilities, so stop interfering with Russian oil production, and they're letting the Russians export to India, to China, and all kinds of, and they're doing nothing to stop that, even though that money is going to fuel the war effort against Ukraine.
And at the same time, They don't want to interfere with Iranian oil production or Iranian oil exports, right?
The reason is, why would they want any oil to come off the market when they're trying to get re-elected?
They don't want energy prices to go up.
So they don't care about our allies, right?
They don't care that we're spending billions of dollars for these people to help defend themselves, but we're allowing the other guys to get money to fund their war efforts against us because it's bad politics for our enemies not to export oil.
Well, we could export oil and gas, that would solve the problem, but we don't want to do that because then the green heads will be mad at us, right?
And we want to get re-elected, so we want to make the radical greens happy by ensuring that we're trying to destroy oil and gas production everywhere in the world, so they'll vote for us, and we want to make stupid Americans happy by saying, oh look, we're trying to keep the price of gas down.
When you and I went to our schools and we were educated in national security and foreign policy and everything, and we were taught that politics ends at the water's edge, right?
You have all the politics you want, fight for power, we get that, but when it comes time to go overseas, not only do we not go to... We're all one American people.
Joe Biden does exactly the opposite.
Foreign policy is an extension of domestic policy, and so foreign policy not only becomes an excuse... But you don't do politics, but isn't the one area where you mustn't do politics national security?
I mean, we have cabinet members talking about EVs for the U.S.
Army.
We're not going to be going to war with electric M1 Abrams.
I mean, this is where it becomes lunatic.
This is where the ideology captures national security interests.
I heard this from Bernie Sanders yesterday.
He was talking about why are we giving military aid?
We have to stop them.
We have to discipline them.
It's like, dude, we're not giving it because we like the Israelis.
We're not even doing it because we want to combat any Semitism.
We're doing it for one simple reason.
It serves America's interest for Israel not to get crushed by Iran.
It serves America's interest for Ukraine not to get crushed by Russia.
What you want to do is make the U.S.
military, foreign policy, and independence policy instruments of domestic policy.
You guys want to win an election.
And show that you're not pro-Israel, right?
So you want us to stop doing foreign policy that's in our interest because you want to win an election.
And this latest news every day, I mean Newsmax has me on standby every evening in case, you know, Iran nukes Tel Aviv.
Can you talk about the way this is being handled by the administration?
Yeah, I know how much time we have in this segment.
It's all Biden's fault, right?
The Iranians are taking their cue from Joe Biden.
How aggressive can I be?
And how much can I live with?
Because the Americans are afraid.
They don't want to attack me.
They don't want to disrupt oil production.
They don't want me, because they want to get re-elected.
So they want to do nothing, right?
So it's like, you know, don't shoot Mongo, you might make him mad.
So Americans are afraid of me, so I can test what I can get away with, right?
And that's what's encouraging this escalation.
I can be, well, maybe I won't, you know, be good on Israel.
But yeah, I will be a good one, but I won't.
So let me test that, because the Americans are afraid to really push back against me.
And that's encouraging the situation we have.
I will say this is, Okay, Israel and Iran can both attack each other.
They can't really fight a war because there's countries in between.
They got a lot of missiles.
Okay, you can lob missiles at each other.
To what end?
I mean, if Iran starts lobbing missiles, Israel's going to lob missiles back.
And better ones.
And you might actually destabilize your own country and bring down your own regime.
Yes.
So are you really going to risk that?
So I'm not saying they won't do that.
I won't say they won't shoot at each other.
They might, because Joe Biden has essentially put the kids in the schoolyard and told them, yeah, go ahead and fight for a while.
See what happens.
I'm not sure where it can escalate.
There's a lot of ladders on the escalation ladder.
And I'm not sure that taking it to full-out war is not really extremely risky for the Iranians.
Proxies I get, right?
Some terrorist attack that they can, you know, keep their fingerprints off.
But an actual all-out war with Iran doesn't make sense to me for Iran.
No, but we could be at the point where the Iranians could do missile strikes on Israel.
Sure.
And Israel will do missile strikes on Iran.
Sure.
And everybody will not get a lot of sleep that night.
Yeah.
Does it mean it'll lead to World War III?
You're asking the Iranians to put a lot on the line for that.
For a war that they can't conclusively win.
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How long is the cut?
15?
17 seconds.
Oh yeah, Maxine Waters.
How long is the cut?
15?
17 seconds.
Oh yeah, Maxine Waters.
Plate cut 8?
8.
Yes, pronouns.
And when we misuse pronouns and when we intentionally or deliberately misuse them or choose not to be careful, we're sending messages to our kids also that we don't care how they're seeing the world and we are willing to do them harm.
And the very act of doing that is an act of disrespect and violence against people regardless of who they are.
Unbelievable.
I'm going to use cut 10 with Jim.
I'll tee it up.
Come in with cut 9.
Come in with 9.
And then I'll do the car read after nine and then I'll tee up ten.
Number nine, coming with nine, then car, then you'll tee up ten. Okay.
We played twelve, right?
Thank you.
The juror.
Um, we have not played it on the show yet, no.
Oh, okay.
Who is Michael Eric Dyson, Geoff?
At one point I think he was the head of the NAACP.
Oh, wow.
He's on MSNBC all the time.
Let me check.
It's one of those he was the head of, but I don't know.
Play that cut again, Eric.
Which number?
Seven.
Seven.
It is true that it was tragic, evil, and an unforgivable assault upon two human beings who lost their lives.
But to say that was the greatest tragedy in light of the accumulated indignities, murders, denials of opportunity, failure to give just due to African-American people in the court system, that, my friend, is a weighted tragedy that we cannot merely dismiss.
All right.
Minute 45.
Crazy.
Yeah.
I know he wasn't a professor and all this stuff.
I thought he was.
I don't know why.
How big's the CPAC gonna be?
Do you know?
In Hungary?
Yeah.
But you've gone before, right?
Yeah.
It's not very big.
You know, it's a couple hundred people.
You know, when Orban's there, the room's full.
Okay, maybe there's a thousand people.
And you said Madrid as well?
Huh?
Madrid as well?
Yeah, we're doing that thing with Vox.
And then I'm going to go to Brussels, stop at Nat Con for a day.
Then I'm going to Madrid.
We're going to do this program in Madrid.
Then I'm going to fly to Budapest.
I've got like four things lined up.
And then the last day, seat back.
They get their money's worth out of me.
I've got to tell you.
One might appreciate it.
I'm not sure what I'm doing here.
I'm just going to sit here and do nothing.
I guess that would mean that RFK Jr.
is going to be taking away votes from crooked Joe Biden, and he should because he's actually better than Biden.
He's much better than Biden.
If I were a Democrat, I'd vote for RFK Jr.
every single time over Biden because he's frankly more in line with Democrats.
The latest video from my former boss, President Trump, I think it's rather genius.
I think, Eric, you agree with me as well, right?
If I were a Democrat, I'd vote for RFK Jr.
Pretty smart, right, Eric?
100%.
The one other person that Biden arguably fears just as much as Trump this November is RFK Jr., and that's exactly why.
Throwing the cat amongst the pigeons.
Absolutely genius.
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I've got to ask you from that perspective, as an American who gets to meet all of these people across the globe, what do they think of clips like this?
So this is a member of Congress who Well, it just says the following about a man who was president and is currently, to use the British term, leader of the opposition, cut ten.
Republican chairmen understand that Russia is our adversary.
Russia is trying to undermine our democracy, just as it's doing with Ukraine.
And the fact that a wannabe dictator like Donald Trump has captured the Republican Party to such a degree that they go along with his support For a despot and tyrannical fascist dictator like Vladimir Putin is just the tip of the iceberg, but is so shocking in its effort to undermine democracy.
How do you deal with foreigners who are well-intentioned, maybe conservatives like you who you meet, and they hear members of Congress say the leader of the opposition is a wannabe dictator?
Everybody gets the joke.
They do?
Everybody recognizes it's crazy.
Now some of them repeat it.
Because they're just like our yahoos, they don't want Trump either.
But they all get the joke, right?
And again, not political here, but I've seen a remarkable shift in both Europe and Latin America, where I just came from.
People went from, well it can't be Trump again, and again, I'm not endorsing anybody.
I'm not talking about politics.
Right, but Europeans now, they think Trump's probably going to get elected.
And the same thing in Latin America.
How quick was that shift?
When did that occur?
Was it primaries?
About a month ago.
About a month ago, okay.
And does that mean that the formerly irrational attitudes have been tempered?
Because, like you, I do a lot of media with, you know, international.
And when you get the National Press Agency of Sweden interview and say, is Trump going to pull out of NATO?
Is he friends with Putin?
And I go, were you alive when he was president?
I feel like it's just asinine questions.
I get these conversations all the time and you hear this thing kick back, but it's just a shtick, right?
Nobody really believes, even the people at Malthus, they can't really, let me give you a perfect example.
Trump says if countries don't pay up their 2%, we're not going to defend them.
Okay, so tell me how exactly that works.
What are the mechanics of that?
So China attacks Canada and we're just going to watch?
Oh, well, sorry Canada.
Or every country that's not paying 2%, where are they?
They're about as far away from Russia as you can possibly... So what are the countries going to do in front that are paying 2%?
They're just going to step aside?
It's funny.
The Baltic states pay it.
Poland pays it.
It's so funny, right?
So literally every country in the front of NATO, which actually is paying 2%, they're just going to basically wave to the Russians and say, yeah, have fun going to the Netherlands, right?
I mean, it's obvious killing campaign rhetoric, but yet they treat it as if it's, oh my God, Trump's leaving NATO.
So it's just nuts.
So are you sure that none of these people believe this stuff and it's really a schtick?
Well, yes.
That's reassuring.
That's reassuring.
Well, yeah, but that doesn't mean that they're not going to repeat it.
It doesn't mean they're not going to think.
And it's not like it's, OK, look, it's like, you know, there is no tooth fairy, right?
You know that because you're 12 years old at this point, right?
You've already got pimples, right?
You're listening to rock music.
But yet when you go to bed at night, you just pray that there may be a tooth fairy and there'll be a dollar under your pillow.
This is the liberal thing.
They know he's not an anti-Semitic, right?
They know he's not a racist.
They know he's not in Putin's pocket.
They know he's not crazy.
They know all these things, but they pray and hope that just maybe he is, right?
Oh, gosh.
All right.
Well, he's going to educate them.
He's getting on a plane.
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He's a crazy man.
Brandon Herrera, the AK guy.
Happy Friday!
How are you doing, Seb?
It's always a pleasure.
Alright, I'm doing very well.
I'm hearing you're doing very well for your campaign for the 23rd District of Texas.
Before we get to that, I'd like to improve your Friday by playing you a clip from Kamala Harris.
May I do that?
Oh no, that always improves my Fridays, listening to Kamala Harris.
Alright, just 30 seconds long.
Cut 5.
Hey, everybody.
So as the head of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, I'm very excited to tell you that as of today, we are closing the gun show loophole.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised, Brandon, but based upon that 30-second clip, she doesn't even know what the alleged gunned show loophole is.
Are you surprised that she's such an idiot?
Not at all, especially with a position like she has, the head of the Office of Gun Violence Prevention or something.
The ridiculous part is that there never was a gun show loophole.
Federally licensed dealers, gun dealers of any kind, if they're doing it legally, they have always had to do background checks to transfer a firearm to an individual, whether they're at a gun show, whether it's online, whether it's at their place of business.
It's never existed.
So, when you hear something like that, I'm curious now that you've become a citizen politician, what's your take?
Is it somebody who's just pretending to do something, or somebody who just has no idea what's going on?
Well, there's a lot of evil people in D.C., but there's also a lot of useful idiots, and I'm really not sure which side of the coin that she falls on, but she's one of the two, because she is perpetuating a lie.
They're pushing a lie to try to push an agenda, an agenda that was unfortunately made possible by my opponent voting on the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, one of the only Republicans to do so, because that's specifically what they are drawing off of to be able to push this new White House order.
Did you hear that, Elysian?
He just slid in there, my opponent.
Alright, let's talk about politics.
You're going up against a Rhino incumbent.
Who is he and why is he bad news when it comes to the Second Amendment, Brandon?
Well, it's the rhino Tony Gonzalez, one of the worst Republican votes in Congress.
One of the only reasons I even bothered to throw my hat in the ring in politics in the first place is to get this guy out.
He's a traitor on the Second Amendment.
He's a traitor as of today on the Fourth Amendment with the FISA vote.
He's just a bad Republican, and it's about time the people of the district held him accountable.
And I think that's exactly what we're doing.
I'm curious, you know, you've got my support, Brandon, but how is it that Texans, and the runoff is May 28th, so please support Brandon, how is it that Texans don't get who this, you know, gun grabber, warrantless, surveillance guy is?
Well, for a long time in the state of Texas particularly, people thought that they could just get by because they've got an R in front of their name and they can vote any which way that they want.
They can vote against the Constitution.
They can vote in the interest of their special interest donors.
But now it's not the case anymore.
A lot of people are waking up and now that we've given this guy a real solid primary fight and we've put a lot of effort and advertising into showing the voters of the district just how he votes, it's really changing the playing field.
And so I think we've got a really solid chance on May 28th.
For those who aren't familiar with you and your story, just like my wife who hated politics and then decided to run and do something and is now the county chair for the GOP as of last Friday, what was it for you?
Because you had a very nice life.
You have a job that other people would kill to have, basically, to be paid to shoot machine guns on YouTube.
So what was it for you, Brandon, that made you say as a young man, OK, I've had it.
I'm not going to put up with These rhinos.
For sure.
And congratulations to your wife again, by the way, because that's that's the sort of stuff we need.
We need more, less career politicians and more citizen statesmen.
And I think that's what it needs to come back to.
The moment for me was really just the frustration when the frustration welled up, looking at all these bad votes that my congressman, the person that we sent to D.C.
to represent me and people like me here in the district, making the votes against the Constitution, against the will of the people over and over again, thinking that there would be no consequences.
You know, it just made me want to do something about it, and that's exactly what we did.
And if the consequence is that I have to go to the swamp for a couple of years and try to sort some things out, then that's a payment than a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
And I've known you for years, and I know that you've been MAGA from the get-go.
Is it true that this Gonzales chap is trying to paint you as anti-Trump, Brandon?
You see, because he can't beat me on politics, or on his voting record, or on policy, he'll just try to take little quotes out of context.
And so the latest string of lies is that he's trying to say that I'm somehow anti-Trump, when in reality, like I said, we've known each other for years.
I've been Trump from day one, all the way back to volunteering on Trump's campaign in the 2016 primary, all the way through to November.
I voted for the man in 2016, I voted for him in 2020, and I'm voting for him again this year.
And it's going to be wild to vote for him On the same ballot that my name is on.
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As a member of Congress with people, you know, who evidently had a racist attitude.
And recently one even confronted me in a restaurant.
And they don't say racist things, but what they say is they don't like something I said.
They don't like a position that I took.
But you know that, you know, if you were not black, Jeff, I'm confused.
approach that. Right, they probably would not. Right. They would think twice about doing it.
They think that they can get away with doing it with you and that you're a fly.
Jeff, I'm confused. Is that Maxine Waters? Yes, it is.
And she's complaining about being harassed in public over her politics?
Oh, you shouldn't do that.
Well, you shouldn't, should you?
Unless you're a Democrat, right?
She's always said that.
Right, because I think this is also Maxine Waters.
Can you play that second cut, Eric?
If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
And you push back on them!
And you tell them they're not welcome!
Eric, that's the same woman, right?
Yeah, that is the same woman.
Startling image.
Might as well have been two separate days, right?
One after the other.
So you can harass a Trump administration appointee, but you're not allowed to criticize her.
Because what?
Because of her skin color?
Sorry, I don't make the rules.
I guess those are just the rules that they've set for us.
Yeah, yeah.
You make your bed, you lie in it, Maxine.
This is even worse, because that's just hypocrisy.
Well, she's probably so stupid she doesn't realize she's being a hypocrite.
But this is a Democrat who's a state rep, Liz Reiner from Minnesota.
How lunatic are they?
This lunatic, Kare.
Yes, pronouns.
And when we misuse pronouns and when we intentionally or deliberately misuse them or choose not to be careful, we're sending messages to our kids also that we don't care how they're seeing the world and we are willing to do them harm and The very act of doing that is an act of disrespect and violence against people regardless of who they are.
Using the wrong pronoun is violence.
They're lunatics.
It's Friday.
Let's have some fun instead.
I just found this on Instagram.
It's a comedian called Yanis Pappas and it's good fun.
It's about Republicans versus Democrats.
Cut 13.
Country's too divided.
It's tough.
I hope we get it together.
But it didn't used to be this way.
Remember back in the day, you had Republicans and Democrats.
You had them in your own family.
Nobody cared.
Remember back in the day, your dad was a Republican because he owned a business, right?
And your mom was a Democrat because she lived off of him.
You know, and it's like, nobody cares.
When we played that, I think everybody chuckled here.
Even Jeff laughed.
Now that's a good sign that it's funny.
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If it's December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York?
What?
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This is a very special episode of Making Movies Great Again.
It is our one-year anniversary, and that's why I chose Casablanca.
And I'm delighted to maybe spend a little bit extra time on this movie with the one and only Mr. Reagan, Chris Coles.
Chris, welcome back to Making Movies Great Again.
It is a pleasure, especially on today, especially with this film.
All right, so I don't know where to begin, because I could wax lyrical for hours on this movie.
I just landed back from Mar-a-Lago this morning.
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On the way home on the flight, I watched the second half of the movie.
I'd watched the rest of it prior.
And I was on a plane, Chris.
And I don't know how many hundred times I've seen this.
I was blubbing like a little child.
This movie, despite being made in a whirlwind with like 48 different script writers, the actors not knowing who would actually get on the plane at the end of the movie, Unusually filming it in sequence because the script was still being written based on the play Everybody Comes to Ricks as they were filming it, but it has gone down in history I've got so many notes so many things to discuss but your first blush your first impression or your comments on this classic of classics
Look, this film is considered by many people to be the greatest film of all time.
Not one of the greatest films, not right up there, but the greatest film of all time.
And with very good reason.
It has all the elements that we talk about when we talk about truly classic films on this channel.
We always say, any time a film comes up that we say, wow, this is a classic, Whether you like it or not, this is a classic.
And here's why.
Usually there's a few elements that are always true.
And one of those elements is that it seems like everybody that was involved in the production Did their jobs immaculately, with precision.
They did it.
It's a masterpiece, right?
Everybody, because a film is made up of, you know, whatever, hundreds of people, hundreds of people doing their jobs, heads of department, you know, people just run around getting stuff done.
The director obviously has to be amazing.
The actors have to be amazing.
And in this project, it seemed like everything in the world came together just the right time, just the right place.
And everything in this film is perfect.
But the thing that, watching it back this time, I've actually only seen this film twice.
I saw it once when I was younger because I thought I should see it, right, as a classic, and I was blown away by this movie.
And it's hard to watch this movie, I think, for me, over again, because it's just so dang good that it's almost like special.
It's almost like a thing that you want to set aside.
But why is that hard?
Is this like it's too good?
What's the issue?
Yes, yes.
It's sort of like when somebody that's important to me sends me a text message, it may actually take me longer to respond to them than somebody who I don't care about.
So the reason that you respond to my texts instantly and now I know.
Well, I text you almost every day, so it's a little hard.
Like you, Kurt, my brother, like certain people, I text every day.
But then the people who, you know, who are important to me but I don't really talk to very often, I want to set aside a good amount of time to write them back or an email, even if they send me an email.
And so sometimes you neglect something that's too good because you want to give it its space, you want to give it its time, and this is one of those things.
I think at least for me, the primary thing that makes this film so great, upon which everything else is built and everything else is perfect as well, is that story.
It is just a dang good story.
It is right up there with some of the best stories in the history of literature.
It is just a phenomenal story.
And if you haven't seen Casablanca, I don't know what to tell you.
You've got to see Casablanca.
It's one of the best ever.
Let's just put it into, you know, the context over the time, because it really is... There are some movies that are my favorite movies, and there'll be a moment where, you know, I'll go off and I'll make a cup of tea or something, right?
You know, Return of the Jedi, when he's on Dagobah, I'm really not interested in Yoda, so it's like, I love the movie, but you can just... I'll be back in 15 minutes.
In this film, There's no fluff.
There's not a moment where... No.
This has, I think, 14 speaking characters and this, like, bevy of real refugees playing the supporting cast.
There's not one scene with a minor character where you say, excuse me, I'm going to go and do something else or check my phone.
The pacing!
I mean, this movie, especially compared to movies of the time, this is 1942, this has the pacing of a movie from the 1980s, 1990s.
There's no fluff, there's nothing extraneous.
And put it in correct context, this is Warner.
Warner was making 50 movies a year, okay?
This is one of 50.
It was truly a factory.
It was like, you know, the Ford conveyor belt of movie production, which was, you know, typical of the studio era.
And at the time, nobody had huge expectations for this movie.
Timing, of course, is, you know, half of every battle.
The fact that this was rushed into release just as U.S.
troops, Allied troops, were landing in North Africa at Casablanca, and the name of the movie is Casablanca, of course adds to all of it.
But, Chris, there's nothing extraneous in this film, and it just, boom, it moves, it moves, it moves.
And to talk about how you were saying, like, they were using these real refugees and every little bit of it is good.
There's a perfect example of this.
There's a character who has one line.
One line.
As far as I know.
Maybe he had a few lines, but I only really noticed the one.
It's the famous scene where Rick comes in and he saves the Bulgarians, which I'm sure we'll get to a little bit later in the show.
He saves the Bulgarians and he starts to walk out of the casino.
He saves the Bulgarians by helping them out, right?
Helping them to make money.
Well, he rigs the roulette wheel.
He rigs the roulette wheel, and on his way out, he turns to the roulette dealer, the roulette, I don't know what he called it, the guy who runs the roulette wheel, and he walks by him and he goes, hey, how's business today?
And he turns to him and he goes, I don't know, I think we're about $2,000 shorter than I thought we were gonna be.
But he delivers it so nice, so well, so naturally, so like, it's just like he's, and it's like we always talk about how guys will sort of give each other crap.
This is in, what was it, 1944?
1942.
Yeah, we're still in the war.
We're in the midst of the war, really.
We're in the midst of the war.
And, well, really near the beginning, right?
Because we're about a year in, the Americans, right, when this movie came out?
Or is that wrong?
Well, yeah, 1941 is Pearl Harbor.
So we're fresh to the war.
This is made, you know, as we enter the war and comes out.
As we enter the war.
Yeah.
It's about a year in.
It's about a year in.
Anyway, but this guy, the delivery was so perfect.
It was so funny.
And like I said, we talk about guys who like each other giving each other crap.
This is an employee and an employer having a little business discussion, and they're giving each other crap, or at least the roulette guys giving his boss crap because he just let this chick and her husband win $2,000.
And he's trying to make the business work here.
And he doesn't, he doesn't say something nice to him or professional.
He gives him a little jab.
He gives him a little, and I think it works really well.
It seems so naturalistic and everything in this film, even if you don't like that, the way they talk that almost like mid Atlantic accent that they have back then, even if you don't like the way they talk back then, or you think it's a little bit, you know, those kinds of films are a bit stiff, stale, phony, you know, maybe.
This film, if you can allow yourself to get into it, every little bit of dialogue like that works beautifully.
I think the person, if I remember well, the croupier, the roulette croupier, was actually quite a famous actor in France before he got this little bit part in Casablanca, so of course the delivery is meticulous.
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I don't know why it is.
Probably because half of the extras, even Peter Lorre, was from Hungary.
They're refugees.
They're from my neck of the woods.
This is actually my favorite scene.
It's a tiny little scene.
It doesn't even have Rick or Elsa in it.
These are the refugees who are going to America and so proud of the English that they've learned.
Eric, play cut.
I'll sit down.
Have a brandy with us.
To celebrate our leaving for America tomorrow.
Oh, thank you very much.
I thought you would ask me, so I brought the good brandy.
And the truth glass.
At last, the days came.
Well, Oistrakh and I are speaking nothing but English now.
So we should feel at home when we get to America.
A very nice idea.
To America.
Liebchen, das ist sweet und satt.
What watch?
Ten watts.
Such much?
You will get along beautifully in America.
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Such much?
Ten watch?
Which watch?
I mean, we actually say this at home.
And it's just, it's like, it's just this little moment.
It has nothing to do with the love story, nothing to do with the thrill of the movie, Chris.
Let's talk about this aspect because, again, I don't know how many movies in the last year of our reviews we've said this.
So often, the top-tier movies we review are truly unique.
They are sui generis.
They're in a class of their own, or they establish a class.
They're the first movie of its kind.
Now this, the style or the genre of this film, didn't create a genre because I think it's unique, but it's this concatenation this amazing melding because number one visually it's what it's a noir movie the lighting the way the faces are lit the dark rooms the the shuttered windows it is a right out of you know the Maltese falcon from just before that it it's a classic noir movie on the flip side it's interspersed with you know
Quasi-documentary style.
They've got stock footage of the Germans invading Paris.
Actual footage.
They've got the thing you'll see in Raiders of the Lost Ark later with the fake globe and the planes flying over the maps that Spielberg will steal later.
And then What's the central thing?
What's the central arc?
Well, there's multiple arcs of multiple characters, but the central arc is, of course, Ilsa, Rick, and Victor Laszlo.
It's this love triangle.
It's a love story.
So, Chris, what category, what genre of movies, Casablanca, can we say?
You know, there's so much to say about this film.
I feel like we're gonna leave so much on the table that we're never gonna get there.
I'm gonna touch.
It's so sad because there's so much to say about this movie.
You're right.
Sui generis.
This, this film is Unlike anything else.
It's unlike anything that came before it.
It's unlike anything that came after it.
Suey Generous is the best possible word to use.
I love that you love that word.
It's a word everybody should know.
It's a beautiful word and it describes this film perfectly.
I think when you get up there, I've said this before, certain films like Ghostbusters and Like Terminator, the Terminator movies, films like this that you don't really see other movies like them.
Star Wars is another example.
People try to mimic them.
People try to do films like them, but nobody ever really accomplishes that because you can, it's sort of, actually, it's sort of like the actress that plays Ilsa Lund, right?
What's her name?
I forget her name.
Ingrid Bergman.
One of my favorite actresses of all time.
Ingrid Bergman, yeah.
One of the best, one of the most beautiful, greatest actresses of all time.
If you described her, she actually kind of looks like an average woman, but her features are so precise that she is just absolutely stunning throughout this film.
And certain films are kind of like that.
You could fit it, maybe kind of try to fit it into a genre, but everything is so perfect, everything is so beautiful that it rises above that.
I also love that the germs that you're talking about that are trying to leave to America, like Not everyone in this film is a bad guy just because they're German.
Like, a lot of films do that, where they're like, oh, they're the Germans, they're the bad guys, right?
This isn't a film to say Germans are bad people, but it is a film to say that the Nazis are bad, right?
Right.
And that's a very different thing.
And they do that, and he's got like a Russian bartender, and it's this real Patchwork of European types, you know, and other types from North Africa and whatnot.
And it's just really interesting.
I don't know if there were films like this back then.
Maybe there were.
I can't think of any that had this kind of cast.
And I feel like I'm kind of experiencing that now here in Indonesia.
Like, everywhere I go, it's Europeans of different types.
I just played tennis with a Dutchman, a German, and somebody from somewhere else.
I can't remember.
But, you know, I'm always meeting people from other places, and it's kind of this fascinating international atmosphere.
And from what I understand, now, I have a theory about you.
I have a theory about the reason that you love Casablanca so much.
It's not just that it's one of the greatest films ever made, but I think that for you, it's a little bit more personal than it would be for other people because of the place you were born.
The place you were born happened to be the same place as the land, the city, that the director of this film, I believe his name was Michael Cortese, Where he was born, Budapest, Hungary, and he comes from your fatherland, correct?
Yeah, my parents.
Well, my parents were born, so yeah.
You were not actually born in Budapest.
I always forget that.
You were actually born in England, right?
Yeah, it's funny you say that.
It's kind of an obvious point to make, and man, I'm such a dullard.
Yeah, my parents were real refugees.
And maybe that's it for me.
I mean, a lot of the people in this movie, they're not even German, they're Hungarian refugees.
They're from Austro-Hungary.
Peter Lorre, I mean, Ugarte is Hungarian.
The director, Michael Curtiz, his real name was Kertész Mihály, Mike the Gardener in Hungarian.
He was a very famous Hungarian director invited by Warners to come over.
And when that scene of singing the Marseillaise, somebody says, you know, the actors, the extras were crying because they were mostly refugees who'd come to America.
And then they're singing this patriotic song, dueling with the Nazis who are singing their, you know, patriotic pro-Nazi anthem.
So, no, dude, I think you may have just knocked me on the head with one of the reasons I like this movie.
And that scene with the Nazis, by the way, iconic scene with the dueling singing, and the Nazis get shut down.
I really paid attention to how the Nazis respond.
Alright, hold that because I want to play it.
I want to dissect it.
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I advise that this place be shut up at once.
But everybody's having such a good time.
Yes, much too good a time.
The place is to be closed.
But I've no excuse to close it.
Find one.
Everybody is to leave here immediately.
This cafe is closed until further notice.
Clear the room at once.
How can he close me up?
On what ground?
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
You're winning, sir.
Oh, thank you very much.
Everybody out at once.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked there's gambling.
You're winning, sir.
Oh, thank you.
Claude Rains, the superlative British-American actor Claude Rains, who... This role is only surpassed by his The Invisible Man, a movie that we will have to review at some point.
Chris, I forgot to mention...
Comedy!
I mean, it's not just a love story, not just noir and pseudo-documentary.
It's just completely injected throughout with these comedy moments, which, shockingly, for a thriller about World War II and a love story, at least for me, doesn't undermine.
The comedy doesn't undermine the rest of this sui generis category.
You know what?
It's very sophisticated comedy.
It's very subtle comedy.
It's very clever comedy.
It's because it's like sort of what you would call highbrow comedy.
You can put it into this film and it works because the film is a very serious film and it talks it touches on very serious themes.
And yet it's funny.
It's funny.
And there's moments you can laugh out loud.
And it's it's actually quite shocking how well the comedy still works.
There's a couple of things that I think are of the time that modern audiences would not understand.
But yeah, it's a funny film.
I watched, just after watching this, I watched like a Millennial or a Gen Z's First time watching Casablanca.
Some chick who talks like this, you know.
So for those who aren't as young as Chris, this is a thing on the internet where people allegedly are filmed watching a famous movie for the first time to get their fresh reactions.
I think it's the stupidest thing in the world.
But you watched a young person reacting to Casablanca and I'm sure this will come into your ratings at the end.
What did this young person, how did they react?
Well, I will say I don't hate watching these, depending on what it is.
I don't usually watch full movies, but some reactions are amazing.
I'll send you some reactions of people watching the final episode of season two of Mandalorian.
Oh, I've seen those!
When Luke appears.
When Luke appears, yeah.
And people are literally like sobbing, crying, because they're seeing their Luke Skywalker, not the new Skywalker, the new movies.
But the old Skywalker from the 80s back again, and people are just sobbing, crying.
It's crazy.
But anyway, watch a girl watch this for the first time, and she's laughing at the moments where you're supposed to laugh.
And at the end, when, you know, Rick is having that conversation with Ilsa, you know, the lives of three people don't amount to a hill of beans.
Tell her to get on the plane.
She starts crying, and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, that is so great that this movie that was made in the early 1940s, came out in 42, early 40, I think January 42, right?
Came out in 1942, still affects somebody on that emotional level, both can make them laugh, that's what they always say, right?
That's what they always used to say.
This movie will make you laugh, it'll make you cry.
This movie really will make you laugh and make you cry.
And it's because they are talking about things that are sometimes a little bit uncomfortable, sometimes a little bit risque, but brutal.
A couple of times.
I mean, like the whole thing with Renault basically getting sex from young women to give them visas.
That is so lightly, you know, you have to pay attention, but it's there.
And the fact that this was made as the Hays Code was coming in, The fact that they got it through the censors is quite stunning, Chris.
It was a very artfully delivered theme of the film, but I think it was actually, that story, that smaller story, I think it's actually the most important story in this film.
Hang on, hang on, the Bulgarian one?
The Bulgarian story.
Yes, I think I agree with you.
Yeah, because that's the moment when Rick, I think, changes.
Yeah.
Right?
Because he is this sort of, like, world-weary man who had his heart broken by this amazing woman many years ago, and he's just turned his heart off, turned his heart cold.
It doesn't help anyone.
He always says in the movie, many times, he's like, I'm only out for this guy, right?
Which Harrison Ford then takes in Han Solo for Star Wars.
But he's like, yeah, I'm only looking out for number one.
That's all he ever talks about.
Then this girl comes back into his life.
He also comes back into his life.
And this Bulgarian girl, crying, tells her what she's got to do to get their passports to get to America.
She's got to sleep with the chief of police, who's this crooked degenerate, right?
And what does Rick do?
He goes to the gambling table.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
What does he do?
What does he do first?
What does he do?
We're showing it right now.
He says, I'm sorry, tough.
And he gets, he's hard.
He's just seen Ilsa and this, this express Bogart's expression.
I mean, he just goes like Flint and he says, best thing you can do, Go back to Bulgaria.
So he throws that cynical stuff out there as he rigs his own casino to help her husband get the money so she doesn't have to sleep with Captain Okhena.
I mean, he's not the most expressive in general, but bogey?
Oh my gosh, just that face.
These moments of facial expression are just... I mean, you're an actor.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Well, listen, this moment is so important to me in terms of the theme of the film, the whole film, because I think it's the moment that exposes the thing that men actually care about with women.
Right?
Like, you know, we talk about, I just put this video out called, What is a Passport, Bro?
I watched it.
And in this video, oh, thank you so much.
And in this video, I hate to ask what you thought of it, but... No, it was great.
It was great.
I want to see like a...
A sequel, because I think you open some issues, then you describe what men are looking for in women, and it's a tease, it's a kind of taster, and then I want to see round two.
But we'll discuss that later.
We'll discuss that later.
Well, so I feel like he almost recognizes what's important to him in his life.
And why he is the way he is is because he's talking to this Bulgarian woman.
He realizes that she will do anything for her husband.
Yes.
Anything.
She will debase herself.
She's so loyal to her husband that she'll actually do something horrible, sleep with this chief of police for the safety of her husband, for him to have a better life.
She'll do this thing that she clearly obviously does not want to do.
She's crying, talking to Rick about this.
And he realizes that is kind of, to some degree, the same woman That he's in love with, right?
Ilse is the same way.
She's devoted to her husband as well.
And he respects that in this Bulgarian.
And that actually may be the moment when she tells him her story and he decides to help out her husband.
That may be the moment when he decides to help Ilse and her husband escape from Casablanca.
I think that's really incredibly astute analysis.
And I'll be a little bit less subtle or less refined.
I think it's also an expression of something we've talked about over the years on the regular show America First and here as well and he's also doing it not just because of his personal history with Ilsa who he finds, you know, is now married or was married all along to somebody else.
He's doing it for this Bulgarian.
Why?
Because of the deep Deep mission of man to protect woman and he's he's gonna protect this Bulgarian woman.
He has nothing to do with her Not a friend not a relative, but he has the power to save her from having to Degrade herself and to provide her freedom and he realizes okay I'm a man.
This is what a man does.
Can we also analyze it at that level of motivation?
I Oh, absolutely.
I mean, throughout the film, at least throughout the early part of the film, he is presented as a kind of rogue, as a kind of person who doesn't really care one way or another about anything.
Just a cynical, world-weary man.
Yeah, and once Elsa comes back into his life, you start to see he's becoming awakened once more to being the man that he used to be, which is a man that cared about the world and wanted to do the right thing.
And I think you're 100% right.
In every man, no matter how good or bad you are, I think there is, at our core, an instinct to protect the women around us.
Like you said, even if it's somebody we don't know.
Some men learn to turn that off.
For whatever reason.
I had a good friend once.
He was an amazingly cool guy.
Very handsome, very charming, very funny guy.
And he would sleep with women that he didn't really find attractive or like that much.
Just disposable, right?
And I didn't understand this.
The one thing I couldn't understand about the guy, because in every other way he was a good guy.
And then he told me this story about how in high school this girl broke his heart, and he felt like he was never going to find love again.
And so he just turned it off, just like Rick.
He's now happily married with children, doing great.
But for a while there, yeah, he was very much damaged in the same way.
I think that's part of what this film is.
A lot of it is like, it's like what we do on our shows, right?
People, a lot of times, like to live in the beautiful lie, and they're afraid to face the ugly truths of the world.
But on our shows, we try to expose the ugly truths of the world because you can't fix problems unless you face them.
And some problems are very, very ugly.
And this film, I think, does that.
It exposed some ugly truths about the world that people don't maybe like to talk about all that much.
Ugly truths about war that people don't like to talk about that much.
But it did it in a way, like you said, it was so artful, it got past the censors and it made it into perhaps the greatest film of all time.
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Perhaps the most iconic musical moment in any film, the dueling songs, the Nazis in a Ricks Café Américain.
And then Victor Laszlo, the leader of the resistance, tells the band to stop playing the Marseillaise,
and Rick gives them a nod.
Let's listen to this iconic moment.
Play them a sense. Wait.
Oh, something that was, I'm sure, like me.
Maybe, Chris, you watched some documentaries and stuff about this.
One of the comments that kind of stunned me because I get emotional every time, I get emotional through this movie with some regularity, but I get truly emotional When you see these people respond to the Nazis who've rolled into town and try and dominate.
And one of the commentators, a film critic or something, a historian said, we're being patriotic.
But this is an American movie and we're being patriotic for a French song!
I mean, this is the power of the writing.
This isn't a star-spangled banner.
This isn't some, you know, prototypical American song.
We are, you know, our chests are heaving, our hearts are thumping for something that's not even American.
Now that's writing.
Agreed?
Well, sure, it probably would have been a little bit more, you know, a little bit better for many Americans if they'd heard like Star Spangled Banner or something like this.
But no, you know what, it really works well.
And it's and it's exactly what it should have been for the time in terms of like, you know, for it to be to make sense for the movie.
But you're absolutely right.
It was done in such a way where you really care.
And I was I was mentioning it earlier, the way the Nazis give up In that little fight, right?
Because it's like a little, it's like a little version of World War Two right there in the cafe.
Right?
And, but at the time, we hadn't won the war yet.
You know, at the time the film came out, the time they were producing the film, the war hadn't ended.
So we didn't know how it was going to end.
This was wishful thinking, really, right?
But the way that it ends, where the Germans keep fighting back, they keep trying to sing,
but they're so overwhelmed that they just kind of have to one by one stop singing and
sit down.
And they don't do it all at once.
They do it sort of intermittently.
And it looks natural.
It looks like how somebody should do it.
And that is some really fine directing.
That's all down, I think, to Michael Cortese.
And this guy is such an underrated director.
I was looking through all of his old films and stuff.
He did Robin Hood.
He did a lot of great films.
Chris, Chris.
Monumental films.
Michael Cote's made a hundred and seventy three movies.
A hundred and seventy three movies.
I suppose just by statistical likelihood, he's going to have a couple of hits, right?
but but that the man was hungarian he's your brethren so i think maybe that's that's one of the reasons and i have to say much the everybody you know is amazing here but ivan the the rick squeeze who he ditches Yeah.
During the singing, my gosh, I'm sorry.
That French actress, she only died a few years ago.
She's not faking the emotion.
When she starts belting out this song that represents france as the nazis are in that cafe and she's not a lead right she's just the squeeze who gets ditched and then hangs out with the germans my gosh her the eyes start to water and she belts out the song wow wow wow okay let's uh play the little clip from when rick first meets uh major strasser amazing writing amazing humor when they're talking about what
What nationality are you, Mr. Blaine?
Play cut.
Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
Unofficially, of course.
Make it official if you like.
What is your nationality?
I'm a drunkard.
And that makes Rick a citizen of the world.
The humor and the delivery at what nationality.
I mean, that could be played so, well, I was born in New York.
No, I'm a drunkard.
I mean, who writes like that today, Chris?
It's really brilliant.
And Claude Rains, the way he tries to play the diplomat between the two.
It's really weird, Claude Rains, because his character is so detestable, really, with what he does.
But the way he speaks and the way he acts, he's so charming that you still kind of like him, which is a little bit disturbing, actually.
And then at the end, of course, you know what I think this film is, when you look at it from, you know, what do they call it, 30,000 miles up, when you look at the broad view of it, I think all the best character arcs in this film, all of them, shockingly, are redemption characters, right?
And I specifically think that the two characters that are the most redemptive are Rick, And Claude Rains, right?
And they both have these character arcs.
Claude Rains has a sort of twist ending character arc that turns him from a detestable man to a good guy, which is a little bit more impactful.
And Major Strasser is redeemed by a 45 to the gut.
That's right.
But Rick, we care about.
You know, we care about him from the beginning of the film.
What's weird about the Bogart character, I think, and I always say I shouldn't just dismiss this point.
I should finish this point off.
I always say that if you want to make a great film, you've got to have at least one redemption character.
It's a little secret of mine that if you put in a character who's, say, a nerd, like in Back to the Future, you've got to have him deck the bully at the end of the film.
If you have a character who's a bit sinister, But maybe has a bit of a good heart, they turn good at the end, like Darth Vader, right?
In almost all the greatest films of all time, there is some redemption character, because people like to believe that, you know, we all sin, we all do bad things from time to time, but even somebody who seems like they're too far gone to turn back, even they can redeem themselves.
So we love this in characters.
We love seeing it.
And in this film, they've got several characters like this, but in particular, I think Rick And the Claude Rains character both have these beautiful redemption moments that I think are extremely powerful and make this film, to some degree, I think more than almost anything else, it makes this film the great film that it is.
That is lesson number one of the Chris Coles School of Movie Making.
I think they did and we might have to review that one as well.
Kaiser Soze should be added to the list.
What is this film In terms of themes, let's really drill down on this, Chris.
I think, A, is it a love story?
Or B, is it about a man having to do the right thing?
And can we make that distinction?
What is this?
Because I think there's, okay, let me read to you what the elite thinks it is.
I'm sure you will appreciate every moment of this description.
This is how the smart set think.
This is Umberto Eco, the famous Italian author who wrote Name of the Rose, Foucault's Pendulum, he said of Casablanca.
And this is the reason the film works.
In spite of the aesthetic theories and theories of filmmaking, For in it, there unfolds with almost telluric force the power of narrative in its natural state, without art intervening to discipline it.
When all the archetypes burst in shamelessly, we reach Homeric depths.
Two clichés make us laugh, a hundred clichés move us, for we sense dimly that the clichés are talking among themselves and celebrating a reunion.
Umberto, really?
Okay, so for me, I mean, I thought you'd be amused at that.
I thought you'd be amused at the telluric and pomeric aspect of this movie.
For me, it's unusual because it's a love story, but the guy doesn't win the gal.
So what is it then?
Is it about duty?
Is it about patriotism?
Or is it about A Christ-like sacrifice that he does the right thing for the other.
Well, you know, it's, it's, okay, this is going to sound maybe a little bit cynical, but I do think that it's a little bit about, just about real life and how people really are.
I think everybody can relate to, you know, an ex-girlfriend or an ex-boyfriend that they feel like maybe that was the one, maybe they should have been with that person.
Or maybe there's a reason that they weren't together.
I think we all like to believe that if we don't end up with somebody that we, you know, were in love with at one point, maybe there's a good reason for that, you know, and maybe we can come to accept that at some point.
And this really illustrates that beautifully in this film, in a very important way, I would say, where they're sitting there trying to save the world, so he's like, you know what, maybe I can give up my girlfriend to save the world kind of situation.
But also I think it's a scenario in which this guy had given up on being the good guy until this woman who'd broken his heart comes back to his life and explains what happened.
And now he finds, like you said, his sense of duty as a man once again.
And, you know, she had actually agreed to get back together with him.
She had agreed to leave her husband for him.
But he realized this is not the right thing to do.
The right thing to do is to give this girl up, let her stay with her husband, and then I'll go out and do whatever else it is that I have to do to try to win this war against the Nazis.
And so 100% it's a sense of duty, but it's not just a sense of duty to man, it's not just a sense of duty to oneself to do the right thing.
I think that it goes beyond that to this, you know, whatever you might believe in, this sense of duty to God, this sense of duty in, you know, in the spiritual sense of You know, there is a right and a wrong.
And there is something that, you know, you probably should do in this life.
And you should try to figure that out.
And you should not give up on it.
And so I think you're right on all counts.
I think that it is a major sacrifice.
But I think it's a major sacrifice that he has to endure because it's the right thing to do.
And he's once again become a good man.
And that's the redemption of this character becoming a good man.
I want to point out something about Bogart, by the way, which is that He's not an extremely handsome guy.
You know, Laszlo, Victor Laszlo, far more handsome.
Yeah, and bogey up to this point.
I mean, until maybe the Maltese Falcon.
He was always playing heavies and gangsters.
Right, right.
And you could believe him as that.
You know, almost like a villain in like a Dick Tracy type story, right?
Because his face, he's not... Maybe you could compare him to, say, Bruce Willis in the 80s, right?
The kind of guy that's not maybe the most handsome guy, but you believe him as being a ladies' man.
And they really set it up well at the beginning by having the girlfriend in love with him.
Claude Raine says, if I was a woman, I'd be in love with him.
You know, this is the kind of man he is.
And there are guys like that that exist in the world, that women tend to fall in love with them, and you don't really understand why, you know?
So it kind of...
It kind of seems like it could be plausible, but the fact is that Bogart is just that charming that you watch the film, you think, how is he getting all these women?
And then as the film goes by, you know, as the film goes along, you start to think, OK, I kind of get it because they did something very smart with Laszlo, something that I don't I think maybe they could have made him a little bit More charming.
They could have made Laszlo somebody you like.
Because I don't really like Laszlo.
I've never liked Laszlo.
The first time I saw it, this time I saw it, I never really liked Laszlo that much.
It's a thin characterization.
Yes, he's a two-dimensional character.
He's called a hero, but you never see him do anything heroic.
That's the real problem with this character.
They probably should have introduced him early in the film before we get to see Bogart because then we like him later on or maybe made him less handsome and a little bit more, I don't know, nerdy or something like that.
I'm not really sure how they could have done it, but I just feel like that character is Is not good enough.
But it's kind of important to make him less charming than Bogart because it gives you a reason to believe that Ilsa will leave her husband for him.
Because even though this is the handsome hero, Bogart is just so damn charming.
You think, yeah, okay, Ilsa might actually leave that guy for him.
All right.
We have to play it.
They never say Play it again, Sam.
What does Ilsa really say?
Let's listen.
Play it once, Sam.
For old time's sake.
I don't know what you mean, Miss Elsa.
Play it, Sam.
Play as time goes by.
Oh, I can't remember it, Miss Elsa.
I'm a little rusty on it.
I'll hum it for you.
Sing it, Sam.
Thank you.
You must remember this A kiss is just a kiss A sigh is just a sigh The fundamental things apply As time goes by We have Ingrid Bergman to thank for that.
The person who did the incredible music for the film, Max Steiner, a legend who also did the music for King Kong for Gone With The Wind, hated that song, detested that song, but they couldn't change it and reshoot it and replace it with another because By the time they said, we hate this song, she'd already cut her hair.
She was filming For Whom the Bell Tolls.
So this song that the makers hated stayed in it.
Max Steiner took it, reworked it, made it the theme of the movie.
I'm going to say something that I think is going to get me in trouble with my friend right now, especially after the comments he made an hour ago.
And I think the comments we have about Beverly Hills Cop 2 and our taste in women.
She's an amazing actress.
A truly amazing actress.
But I don't think she's pretty.
I think she's one of the most beautiful actresses in the history of cinema.
I absolutely love Ingrid Bergman.
She's not a Grace Kelly.
She's not a Marilyn Monroe.
Again, I'll use the phrase, overused already, sui generis.
Amazing actress, but not a stunner.
Right?
Not a stunner.
Well, Grace Kelly definitely was a very stunningly beautiful woman.
Ingrid Bergman is beautiful in a slightly different way, but I still think that she is one of the best of all time.
There's an actress, I'll look it up because I forget her name, but there are some actresses from history that I think are overlooked.
She was obviously one of the most successful, one of the most famous women of her time, partially because of Hitchcock, partially because of this film.
Let me go back to the song real quick.
Go back to the song.
Go back to the song real quick.
That song kind of defined a generation.
You know, like my grandparents, they were still listening to that song.
When I was a kid, and I mean, anytime you watch an old, like a film that references old people, they'll play that in the background, you know, it really defined that generation.
It really was a great song.
And his rendition of it, this guy is such a great singer.
And actor!
Actor!
And actor, of course, of course he's a great actor.
If this guy was on, like, America's Got Talent today, I think he would win that competition.
You know what I mean?
Like, he really is phenomenal.
And let's just give her credit, because she was 26 when they filmed this.
This woman was 26 years old.
Oh, I didn't know that.
But Bogie was pushing 40.
He was, like, 39 years old.
So, you know, for a 26-year-old from Sweden, she did an amazing job.
All right, only a few more things that we have to play here.
Before we get to the finale with Captain Reno, the line from Bogey where he explains why he's letting her go, and it has to do with a hill of beans?
Inside of us, we both know you belong with Victor.
You're part of his work, the thing that keeps him going.
If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with him, you'll regret it.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
But what about us?
We'll always have Paris.
We didn't have.
We lost it until you came to Casablanca.
We got it back last night.
But I said I would never leave you.
And you never will.
I've got a job to do, too.
Where I'm going, you can't follow.
What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.
We'll always have Paris.
They didn't know how the movie was going to end until basically before they shot it.
The Hays Code said that two people having an affair couldn't escape, so it had to be the married couple that left, and that's what tipped it over the edge.
Chris, final thoughts with the movie cost about a million bucks to make.
Wasn't a massive success first time around, made about 3.7 million.
But then later during the war and after the war became the icon that it is today.
Final thoughts on Casablanca.
Yeah, you know, I think that that was the correct ending.
Sometimes, you know, things just happen the way they happen and it turns out better than what you intended.
Like, no films ever turn out the way you envisioned them.
You know, there's no director who's ever looked at a script, envisioned it a certain way, and then magically produced their vision exactly.
You know, it's a collaborative effort.
Everything kind of falls into place.
And sometimes it falls into a place, into place really lucky.
And sometimes it's a little bit, a little bit messy.
This film, everything was perfect.
Yeah, this is what, you know, it's funny, even when I was young in my 20s, you know, back when like people started using MySpace and Facebook, like social media was first to thing.
And it was kind of fun to like put in, oh, these are my favorite movies of all time.
It's like that.
This movie was always on the list.
This movie may have been I'd always throw in like Dostoevsky is one of my favorite authors and Casablanca is one of my favorite films to seem a little sophisticated.
But that was true, actually.
I love Dostoevsky and I love Casablanca.
But Casablanca was always on there because I just absolutely love Casablanca.
I never got a single person say, oh, I also love Casablanca.
I don't know.
It was weird for me to be in my 20s and love this film.
I don't know.
There's something about this movie.
It's such a complicated story actually.
Like a lot of films with complex stories with like a lot of moving parts and stuff, they're kind of hard to follow.
They may be a little bit convoluted.
Maybe they don't make sense in every point.
This film makes sense in every single point.
Everything is clear and easy to follow, but it is a very complicated story.
There's a whole flashback sequence so you understand what happened there.
I mean, and what an amazingly human concept.
The concept of a woman who has been widowed, who's lost her husband, falls in love with another guy, and then finds out, oh my goodness, my husband is still alive.
Like, I have to leave this guy who I've just fallen in love with and go back to my husband because I'm a loyal, good wife.
And it kind of, to me, kind of makes you love this woman because she is such a good person, right?
She goes back to her husband.
She's trying to do the right thing.
She's struggling through this life.
Of course, this guy, he's all depressed now.
His life's kind of like crappy.
You know, he's got a thriving business.
Everything's great there.
But, you know, he just hates the world because this woman left him.
But you know, that stuff does happen.
That sort of messiness of life does happen.
But it's depicted here by great actors, directed brilliantly and written into one of the best scripts of all time.
And the concept of Bogart not being the most handsome guy in the world, but being able to get beautiful women and like, you know, every woman falls in love with him.
That was brilliantly set up at the beginning.
So it wasn't just a brilliant story with brilliant actors directed brilliantly.
It was a very well written script.
And if you're I didn't hear about this, that there was like 100 different writers.
Usually that destroys a script.
The fact that they were somehow able to cobble this thing together, which is one of probably the greatest scripts of all time.
It's just fascinating to me.
Well, unlike Hollywood today, where it's 100 at the same time, this went through iterations.
The playwright, then the twins that worked on it, then another writer.
So it was iterations.
It wasn't the cacophony of today.
All right, final, final... Oh, we have to mention this is the anniversary of Making Movies Great Again.
This is the 52nd episode.
Yesterday, because so many of his films have turned up in our reviews, was the 80th birthday.
of the great John Milius.
So we salute you, Conan the Barbarian, Red Dawn, Hunt for Red October, John Milius.
Now all that is left is for us to decide a unit of measure.
Let's put a photograph.
Do we have the photograph of Michael Curtiz and the cast?
If we do, let's put them on while we're working out Michael Curtiz, Kertész Mihaly from Hungary on the right there with his stars.
What is our unit of measure for scoring out of 10?
Is it going to be poker chips, roulette chips or letters of transit?
You get to choose, Chris.
Let's say roulette chips.
Roulette chips.
Alright, so you have to rate it for a modern audience today.
I will rate it in the galaxy of movies forever.
Out of 10 roulette chips, what do you give it, Chris, for a modern audience?
You know, for me, when I was in my 20s, and I saw this, I was really blown away by it.
I was really impressed by it.
There's only been a few films from that era that I've just been shocked by.
This is one of them.
Another one is It Happened One Night.
That's one of the greatest films of all time, I think.
Another one I'll mention in a little bit here.
But it wasn't until I saw that Gen Z chick review the film, and I realized, damn, Really anyone of any generation can watch this film and absolutely love it.
So it's impossible for me not to give it 10 out of 10.
It's got to be a 10 out of 10.
Well, I'm going to shock you and I'm going to disagree with you, Chris.
I'm giving Casablanca 11 out of 10 for the Galaxy of Movies.
I'll give it an 11 as well.
It'll be 11s all the way.
All right.
All right.
22 out of 20.
22 out of 20.
My favorite movie is Blade Runner.
The best movie ever made is Casablanca.
A movie which, by the way, Ronald Reagan was supposed to play Rick.
Let's start our second year of making movies great again, Chris!
Reagan could that would be a very different movie a movie that I think
ultimately is about vulnerability without weakness and a love story love
unrequited but a movie about duty all right what's left to do let's let's
start our second year of making movies great again Chris you get to choose the
first review all right I had a few ideas.
I was going to maybe do something a little bit tacky.
I always want to follow up a more serious film with a more fun film.
But I've decided to actually stay in the same era.
A little bit earlier, actually.
Quite a lot earlier.
But this is one of my favorite films of all time.
You may actually not like this film.
We'll see.
I'm curious what you think of it.
I don't know if you've seen it before.
I'm not sure how much we've talked about it, but it's one of my favorite films of all time.
I think it's a riot.
I think it's a great movie.
And it made these two actors superstars, even though you probably haven't heard of them.
Spit it out, will you, man?
It is a film called The Thin Man.
What do you mean you haven't mentioned it?
You've mentioned it flipping every month for the last 12 months.
I can't wait.
The Thin Man, I'm not familiar with it.
I know you're a super, super fan, so I'm super excited to check it out.
In Man will be our next review.
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It might be a good idea for you to disappear from Casablanca for a while.
There's a free French garrison over at Brazzaville.
I could be induced to arrange a passage.
disappear from Casablanca for a while.
There's a free French garrison over at Brotherville.
I could be induced to arrange a passage.
My letter of transit.
I could use a trip.
It doesn't make any difference, but I bet you still owe me 10,000 francs.
And that 10,000 francs should pay our expenses.
Our expenses?
Mm-hmm.
Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.