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But as Politico.com reports tonight on the, quote, bloodbath at the RNC.
Headlines calling it a, quote, bloodbath.
A bloodbath.
Not only is it going to be a bloodbath, but after they leave New Hampshire, it's a bloodbath on her home turf.
That's really tough.
Trump has left a lot of corpses in his wake.
I mean, we can count the bodies.
As part of the, quote, MAGA drive to take over Maricopa County.
And the headline refers to it as an impending bloodbath.
Columnist Charles Blow has a new piece for the New York Times entitled, A Biden Bloodbath.
It's been a bloodbath.
They're shaping up to be a bloodbath.
that they 100% are fearing a slaughter.
In fact, the word bloodbath and massacre come up frequently.
The Republican Party will be destroyed.
It's gonna be a bloodbath.
There's gonna be a bloodbath one way or the other.
Bloodbath for Bernie Sanders.
It's been a bloodbath.
They're shaping up to be a bloodbath.
Head off a bloodbath and next year's crucial midterm.
Off-year elections are often a bloodbath.
This week's bloodbath for Democrats.
A bloodbath at the ballot box.
There could be a Republican bloodbath.
Talk about a bloodbath.
It's a bloodbath.
I have to talk about you.
It's going to be a bloodbath all day long.
It's in for a bloodbath.
Hasn't been a bloodbath on the way down.
Donald Trump bloodbath.
Be a bloodbath.
Predicted to be a bloodbath.
May not be the bloodbath.
It would be a bloodbath.
More of a bloodbath.
It's going to be a bloodbath in November.
Possible Biden bloodbath.
This November, a bloodbath on Wall Street.
There's gonna be a bloodbath in Alabama.
Into a bloodbath.
Obviously there was a bloodbath.
It was a bloodbath.
We're down 800 points.
This bloodbath at the Department of Homeland Security.
And it's a bloodbath today.
There was gonna be this bloodbath.
Election, bloodbath.
It could be a bloodbath for them.
Bloodbath, possibly.
Bloodbath that went through with the Attorney General.
Bloodbath.
That's enough, that's enough.
I can't stand it anymore.
MAGA extremists talking about bloodbath.
It just boils my blood.
Jeff, that is who those are, right?
Those are extremist MAGA, you know, threats to the homeland.
No, that's the mainstream media, so it's all Democrats.
Those are all Democrats?
Pretty much, yeah.
Oh, how confusing.
Welcome, dear friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
Bloodbath!
Yeah, a bloodbath in the auto industry.
That's what the president was talking about.
We'll be asking him because we spoke to him for an hour this morning.
Yes, President Trump.
And he will be on the show.
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President Trump's answer as to who's really running the White House.
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So, what did the president say about a bloodbath?
Was he talking about a revolution?
Blood running in the streets?
No, he was talking about the Chinese destroying the American auto industry.
Let's listen to what he actually said in Dayton, Ohio.
Cut one.
We want to do this all-electric nonsense where the cars don't go far, they cost too much, and they're all made in China.
And the head of the United Auto Workers never probably shook hands with a Republican before.
They're destroying.
You know, Mexico has taken over a period of 30 years 34% of the automobile manufacturing business in our country.
Think of it.
Went to Mexico.
China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and think they think that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.
Let me tell you something to China.
If you're listening, President Xi, and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal.
Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now.
And you think you're going to get that?
You're going to not hire Americans and you're going to sell the cars to us?
No.
We're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line.
And you're not going to be able to sell those cars.
If I get elected, now if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole, that's going to be the least of it.
It's going to be a bloodbath for the country.
That'll be the least of it.
So there you go.
Bloodbath for American car manufacturers and car workers.
The question is, and I'm kind of struggling with this myself, Jeff, this morning, and I saw all this coverage, we know they lie.
Is there any point in, you know, uncovering the lies?
We need to, right?
I think you do, yeah, because so many people think that he said it, and they play the real quick cut of it, where it's just like three seconds, so you have no idea what he's talking about.
And then they lie about it, like Joe Scarborough lied about it this morning at, what was it, 6.15 in the morning?
This is what he had to say, a court propagandist for the DNC, former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, cut 12.
He's talking about a bloodbath for America.
It's laid out in the terms of it.
And these idiots on Twitter, these idiots on cable news, these idiots on Sunday shows going, well, our president, you know, he was talking only about the auto industry, and this is one more.
We're not stupid.
Americans aren't stupid.
He was talking about a bloodbath.
Sometimes a bloodbath means a bloodbath.
Yeah, well, it's being referred to in the economic sense.
Look it up in the Merriam-Webster's, the third definition of a bloodbath is a disastrous economic event.
And I'd love to know, I have the image of it, why at 10.48 last night, the same Joe Scarborough wrote the following on his Twitter account.
Donald Trump's America, and he's proud of it, promised another, quote, bloodbath if he loses again.
That was at 10.48 last night.
And as Elon Musk, none other than Elon Musk, has pointed out, it's really weird.
Joe Scarborough deleted that tweet.
I wonder why.
Maybe it was because of this comment from the man who bought Twitter.
January 6th was not a, quote, bloodbath by any definition.
And Trump was referring to job losses in the auto industry when he used that word.
Your post is incredibly misleading.
At this point, Eric, why doesn't Musk just endorse President Trump?
It's pretty clear whose side he's on.
He's on the side of the patriots, isn't he?
It's just the same with Joe Rogan.
He's basically, everything he's said, the comments he's given on cultural issues, on immigration, everything, he's basically signaled very, not so subtly even, that he really does support Trump.
If forced to a binary choice, In private.
He may never say it publicly.
He will vote for Trump over Biden.
Yeah.
Bingo.
There you have it.
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Looks like Democrats like bloodbaths.
You can block.
Okay.
Am I gonna be done in like 40 minutes?
That's like weird.
So surreal.
I'm gonna just like walk around here like the janitor.
Give me a job to do.
Admire all the decorations and then you're gone tomorrow.
Oh my gosh.
We should probably maybe tee that up, throw out there, like, oh... I might have to do that.
Oh, is everything locked in with Doug and coming in?
Yeah.
Has he been in?
I don't think so.
No, this is his... Oh, he's coming in?
Yeah.
Yeah, this is his first time coming in for sure.
Alright, so we did that, we did that.
He should be up, but it keeps saying video starting, I think it's frozen.
On our end or his end?
His end, I think.
That's not on his end, yeah.
Alex, you there?
Alex?
I'll dial him back.
Yeah.
Do you want to do in denounce for miniature?
Uh, I thought I did them.
Freebie for Slater, I think.
Hey, I'm going.
Hello!
He's wearing a suit!
Oh my god.
Don't I usually wear a suit?
No.
No.
Really?
What do I normally wear?
I don't know, but it's not a suit.
Didn't we do ins and outs, John?
John was here Friday.
Yeah, John just told me.
Can you get the book Breaking Biden?
Yes, I have.
Oh, look at him.
Look at him.
That studio of his.
No flies on Marlo.
Although he is wearing jeans with his suit.
Yeah, no one's supposed to see the jeans.
At least you're not like Bret Baier, who wears his shorts.
Yeah, that's what they do at the SDN, at the Bush League.
I bet he's a secret slob, that's my guess.
I'm gonna start spreading that rumor, see what he says about it.
I doubt it, have you seen his wife?
No, is she a nice looking woman?
Nah, she's pretty impressive.
Interesting.
All right.
Good.
Excellent.
All right.
So we're going to talk a bit of TikTok.
Yeah.
Let's talk TikTok.
Let's talk Musk.
Whatever you want to talk about.
We're going to have Mike Slater on today as well.
Oh, and guess what?
You're the warm-up act for President Trump.
The whole second hour is President Trump.
Nice.
Well, I was with him last week, too.
I know.
I know.
We discussed it with Boyle.
Oh, Boyle.
Matt Boyle.
Did they treat you well at Mar-a-Lago?
They always do.
They always do.
It's so fun over there.
It is funny, though.
I'm going now often enough where you see the guys who just hang out the whole day and really don't have anything to do.
But there's like, I'm like, how often do you hear?
Like every day.
Standby.
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And I think it is deeply, deeply harmful.
You know, you look right now at the Israel-Hamas war that is unfolding.
Every age cohort of Americans, when asked, Who's in the right?
Who do you side with?
Overwhelmingly, Americans side with Israel except for one age cohort.
And that is 18 to 29.
And we see TikTok in particular pushing pro-Hamas propaganda.
I think it is deliberate.
I think that is designed by the Chinese government.
That is, of course, Senator Ted Cruz talking last week when the CEO of the communist Chinese platform TikTok was being grilled on Capitol Hill.
What should happen with TikTok, we'll ask our first guest of the day.
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Okay, so what do we need to know about TikTok?
And is it a good solution to force the sale to an American company?
Let's talk to a man who knows a little bit about Palo Alto and freedom of speech because he just happens to be the editor-in-chief of that conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
Alex Marlowe, welcome back to America First.
Dr. G, it is so good to be here.
I love being on your show, and I can't tell you how much you're appreciated in the Breitbart universe.
Well, I think we're appreciating back to you today, because you are the warm-up act for President Trump in the second hour.
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So let's talk about TikTok because I'm getting completely conflicting arguments that, yes, shut it down.
This ban is great.
And then I have others conservative saying, oh my gosh, you've got to read this.
This bill gives Biden the power to ban any social media platform.
So first things first, TikTok, I think we can agree, is pernicious and evil and something has to be done.
Yeah, TikTok is evil, pernicious, and something has to be done.
And this is where my position starts with this.
If you look at this, TikTok is not allowed in China.
Chinese kids aren't allowed to use it.
China has censored and banned this exact type of content in their own country that is the most prominent content that you see on TikTok.
This sort of viral entertainment, That you see there is a huge distraction, a Breitbart we call a digital fentanyl.
And in China, their social media rewards things like accomplishment, achievement.
In American TikTok, we emphasize some of the worst stuff imaginable.
It's not just entertainment.
It's all of these things that are making our children depressed, suicidal.
We have the most depressed generation of people who are addicted to their phones.
Scroleosis, as I call it.
They're scrolling, scrolling, scrolling all day long.
It's terrible.
And this company, ByteDance, it does have American investors, including conservatives, that are lobbying politicians right now.
They're trying to keep this thing as is.
But the bottom line is, the original premise you have to start from is TikTok is a cancer in our republic, and we have to figure out a way to deal with it.
Scroliosis is a perfect way of putting it.
We're talking to the author of Breaking Biden, the new book exposing the hidden forces and secret money machine behind Joe Biden, his family and his administration.
Let's talk about the bloodbath moment, if we can.
I've got to play a clip.
I'm going to put it down near the end because this guy just so annoys me.
This is MSNBC Michael Beschloss who is allegedly a historian talking about how what happens if you elect the wrong people.
Cut 4.
However this election turns out, it will be.
Americans were given the voluntary choice to become pawns in a dictatorship.
Under a presidency of unimaginable brutality and violence and all sorts of things that are as un-American as anything that we can imagine or whether they voted against that.
You know, anything about horse race or age or, you know, Trump is more entertaining on the stump, well that's wonderful.
What I would suggest is let's go back to the late 1920s in Germany or the early 1930s.
The Nazis and Hitler came to power Now, you know, you're a media personality and you have responsibility for a massive platform.
When MSNBC has a historian on who says Hitler was elected when he wasn't, when Hindenburg appointed him and then they had the Reichstag fire, at what point, and you hear the bloodbath lunacy for the last, you know, 12 hours, do these people care any more about how they look as purveyors of quote-unquote journalism, Alex?
Yeah, this is just one of the most frequent things you see on MSNBC.
Is they get these historians out there who are basically just trying to prop up Joe Biden.
They want to be able to write about Joe Biden in a positive light.
They want to be able to carry water for the administration.
Beschloss is just one of those people.
And none of them should be taken seriously.
But it's interesting you played the MSNBC clip, Dr. G, because I thought I had burned out on MSNBC because they're so obvious about what they're trying to do.
But I find it in an election year, I'm going over there more often to see what they're up to.
To see what talking points they're on.
And the bloodbath talking point is a perfect example of what we're in for for the rest of the year, because it's so clear from the context that Trump was talking specifically about job losses in the auto industry, which is objectively true.
The Democrat party and Joe Biden wants to focus on EVs, which are made largely in China, and a lot of the components are made in China.
And he wants to focus on combustion engine cars, which are made in America.
Even foreign countries, as you saw, We're bringing their companies to the United States.
As I've noted, probably on your show, Dr. G, I bought an Acura during the Trump administration.
Japanese company was made in Ohio.
Why was it made in Ohio?
Because they set up a new plant thanks to Donald Trump.
And it's one of those things that Trump is going to diversify from Biden on that in the campaign.
And so, they've got to run down this narrative, and you see the length they're willing to go.
This is a blatant lie.
Trump was only talking about auto industry jobs.
Anyone who's telling you otherwise is a liar, lying straight to your face, and they don't care.
They're flooding the zone with this lie.
They just don't care.
You know me, I drive my Ford Mustang, whether it's the 2022 or the 1966 one, and the only reason I let my wife drive her BMW is because it was made in the Carolinas.
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Thought he had an MSNBC contract.
Or CNN, I thought.
Jeff, what's going on?
Has he lost his contract?
He's been on FOX for a while.
He has?
Is he a contributor or they just let him cross?
He does Bret Baier a lot.
Oh, first time I've seen him.
Where's the Mitt Romney license plate?
Never get tired of that.
Alright, I'm gonna ask you if you still don't like Elon Musk.
Oh, you got me?
Have we got his sound?
Have we got Alex's sound?
I just muted.
I go on mute.
I'm a mute expert.
So tell us about the interview.
Was it up in his office?
No, so he likes this parlor next to the dining room.
I'm sure you've been in there.
That's kind of his favorite hang, it seems like.
You know, the first time I was with him, he was much more cash.
So we did one in December.
Right.
We're gonna do these, like, apparently, like, once a month or so.
Wow.
And, um, because he loves me and Boyle, which is, which is very favorable, um, for, for us right now.
The, um, the, yeah, but he's, he was doing more, because he did Greg Kelly right before, and then he was with the New York Post right after, but he still gave us, like, 80 minutes.
And, um, it's, he's such a great hang.
I mean, he's the most fun person to talk to.
Period.
And he's getting so good at not answering any of my questions.
We've probably done three and a half hours of interviews in the last three months, and I don't think he's answered a question yet.
It was shocking, wasn't it, Eric, today?
I think he answered every question.
Maybe he didn't answer one.
He answered every single question, yep.
Last time he answered whatever questions were in his head, but today I actually got him to answer questions.
Yeah, and that's a real credit to you because I'm intentionally not, and I know this is hot Mike, but whatever, I'm not trying to badger him.
Um, because I, I think it's more important than he can, to be able to talk to him this year.
Like, I don't want to alienate.
So it's the, for a million reasons.
So, um, but the, the, but, but he is, um, the best hang possible.
And how about this?
When I was there on business in December, he was like 20 minutes late.
So I'm waiting upstairs in his office and in walks this waiter with this freshly made Vanilla malt milkshake, which just happens to be my favorite drink on the planet.
I don't know how he knows it.
And I said, what's this?
Well, the president's going to be a bit late, so he's sending you one of his favorite vanilla malted milkshakes.
That's unbelievable.
So there I am sitting on the balcony just waiting for the boss drinking my favorite drink.
It's hilarious.
So one thing that's really I'm seeing that it's surprising that I'm feeling this way after so many years of being someone who supported him.
I'm really seeing how hard Trumpism is going to be without Trump, because he's able to deliver so many messages because of his personality, and not just to an audience, but also to Putin, Xi Jinping, where you can tell that he's going to be able to get that news in a certain way.
If we win, what happens, God willing, if we win, what happens four years later?
All right come in with Elon, please You
You And a good sign as to whether there's free speech is
is is someone you Don't like allowed to say something you don't like
And if that is the case, then we have free speech.
And it's damn annoying when someone you don't like says something you don't like.
That is a sign of a healthy, functioning free speech situation.
Yeah, it is.
Otherwise it's not free speech.
That's Elon Musk, the man who seems to have all the right enemies right now.
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The latest book is Breaking Biden, exposing the hidden forces and secret money machine behind Joe Biden, his family and his administration.
I want to ask you about Biden in a second specifically, but you are the person who kind of opened my eyes up to problems with Elon, especially Chinese connections and business interests.
Wouldn't you say he's still... I mean, even on the Bloodbath comment, he skewered Joe Scarborough this morning.
Wouldn't you say he's making all the right enemies?
You know, in a way, I mean, I'm not going to ride for Musk.
I think that he says a lot of the right stuff.
I think he's pretty hypocritical on some of the speech stuff.
The Don Lemon thing comes to mind, where he's apparently going to do a show with John Lemon, which is insane.
Who would do a show with Don Lemon?
And then Lemon interviewed him.
He liked the interview, so now the show's not going.
That all doesn't look very good to me.
And he also, as the pronoun police came back on X, their Uh, you can, you can, if you misgender, you deadname, which is, deadnaming means calling people by their legal birth name in most cases, and like, that's now illegal.
But, but, so do you think he's a phony, or do you think he's not controlling X?
It's a very interesting question.
I don't know the answer to that.
I think that he's a showman.
So I don't want to say phony because I think he's the best marketer in the world.
There's maybe one exception, your former boss.
And so I think that that is a skill.
And the fact that he's also good at a bunch of other stuff, I do credit him for that.
So I'm not a must-hater per se, though the China ties to his EV company is just Really not okay with me, still.
It still isn't, but I've said that on your show a number of times.
But he does a lot of stuff right.
He's calling out Google, he's calling out the open border.
At least he's elevating anti-woke journalists.
He won't go far enough to say that Donald Trump is a solution and Joe Biden's a problem.
I would like for him to do those things.
You know, he's a great guy, Dr. G. I don't need to feel like I have perfect feelings towards him, but he does a lot of stuff I love, a lot of stuff that I don't like.
It's all interesting to me, though.
All right, that's why you are the Editor-in-Chief at Breitbart.com.
The book is Breaking Biden.
Let's talk about Biden.
Nobody has a crystal ball, but I still find it impossible to believe the Democrats are going to run with this guy, but I'm very glad they are.
Your predictions?
Are they possibly going to run with this guy and not do some superdelegates end run and a Hail Mary in the convention?
Yeah, so I've been writing this for a long time.
I wrote my book about it.
I studied him very closely, needless to say, to write a book and made the New York Times bestseller list.
And thank you, Dr. G, for all the promotion that you've done to help me.
And I will say that I know a few things about Joe Biden.
He thinks of himself as even larger than the presidency.
He doesn't see himself as a transitional figure.
He sees himself as a generational political talent, and he's had his eye on the presidency his entire life, since before there are written records of stuff.
So, this is prehistory.
This is several thousand years ago when Joe Biden was born.
He decided that he would be president one day, and he would pass The baton to someone who had his best interests and his dynasty at heart.
That person has not emerged.
And until that person emerges, then I don't see him standing aside for anyone.
They're going to have to take the presidency from his cold, dead hands.
So, who are the they, and can they do it?
I don't think that they exist.
I don't think they're that organized, and I don't think that they think—I think they think Trump is beatable, and they think that Joe Biden does enough to send kickbacks in their direction to make their lives easy.
So, I just don't see him getting pushed off.
I really don't.
So, I know I've written a big check here, and hopefully it's going to get cashed here at the Democrat convention, but I don't see the path to get him out at this point.
Well, I just hope you are right.
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Yeah, yeah, so I had one point that I, for the viewing audience, Dr. G, and feel free
to take this.
I was crunching the numbers last week.
Trump is polling better than any Republican in decades.
That is reason why you're excited if Joe Biden's the guy.
And I think that's super exciting and I love sharing that with people because I think I was, you know, I didn't crunch the numbers, but that was my impression.
And the other thing that is, you know, that I knew is when you're breaking, and I know it's primaries, but when you're breaking primary records for Democrats in Democrat states like New Hampshire, I'm sorry, that's indicative of something.
That absolutely is.
And that's an energy thing.
Data backs it up.
It's such an important point and I think it's so exciting right now and I think that you're right that this is probably the best case scenario for Trump if Biden's the guy.
And I think that it's really exciting for people that if you look at the numbers, that even though there's gonna be so much cheating, it's gonna be nonstop every way they can do it.
AI, big tech, community organizing, ballot boxes, whatever, it's gonna be crazy.
But if you start pulling away by, you know, eight, 10 points in some of these swing states, you see the polling in Michigan, you see the polling in Georgia, you see the polling in North Carolina, it's not even close in these states.
And it does, Pretty exciting, because it is outside the margin of cheating in these states.
States Biden won.
I wish we'd done that on radio.
All right, we'll have to get you back.
Thank you, buddy.
I'll come back.
Would love to.
Good.
All right.
Best of the family.
Bye, gentlemen.
Bye-bye.
Can you give me line one quickly?
Mic's on.
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Hey, Kate?
Oh, hi.
Can you hold on for seven minutes while I talk to John Solomon, and then we'll have you in the next segment?
Are you serious?
I'd absolutely, I'd love you.
Yes.
Alright, perfect.
Alright, standby.
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We're only 40 seconds.
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In 15 minutes time he'll be up.
You don't want to miss a millisecond of President Trump here on America First.
But it is Monday and we need an update from the man who always delivers with the receipts, the founder, the editor-in-chief of JustTheNews.com, a very good friend of America First, John Solomon.
John Solomon, no pressure, you're just a warm-up act for President Trump.
Man, I'm sweating already.
How about that?
There won't be a bloodbath, I promise you.
You read my mind.
It's going to be the first question I ask him because it's just such absurdity.
Let's talk about your colleagues in the media.
We played the full cut, talking about if Biden stays in power, there will be a bloodbath in the car industry.
I can't believe these people don't know they're making selective edits.
But you're in the bloodstream of the media.
Tell me how we should deal with what we've seen in the last 18 hours.
Well, I think you bombard it with facts.
I think what you're doing right now is the greatest thing we can do for the American public, which is when they do something like this, which by the way is becoming far more frequent, you just flood the zone with facts.
You trust the American people are smart enough that when they hear the truth, they'll adjust their understanding of whatever they took
away from the first headlines.
And I don't buy the idea that most Americans aren't paying attention, where they are far more
dubious of The New York Times and the CNNs and The Washington Post, because they know how often
they've been misled the last six to eight years. And they're now looking for it. I use this example
all the time, but how is it that The Washington Post, The New York Times, CNN never cover the
Biden scandal, but now 67% of Americans in the AP North Pole said that they believe Joe Biden did
something illegal or unethical with his son's business.
How did that happen?
It's because they're not paying attention to those guys anymore.
They're getting their news from your show and from my website.
There's an extraordinary moment in history where the gatekeepers have lost the keys to their gates and they're allowing a new era of people who want to be truth tellers to fill in those blanks and I think that's what's happening right now.
I think most Americans know today Donald Trump didn't say what CNN and the others accused him of.
I like that.
The gatekeepers have lost their keys to the gate.
That's wonderful.
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Alright, so what should we talk about?
You get to choose because you're such an important guest.
Is it the swearing test I think it's so important.
Or the Supreme Court decision on tech censorship by the government.
Let's go with Schwerin.
I think that's important.
Yeah, I think Schwerin is going to be an...
Just think about this.
First off, there are four bombshells in here, but the most important bombshell is for five,
six years, Eric Schwerin was doing Joe Biden's taxes.
He was doing his accounting monthly.
He was paying his bills, helping him do his ethics statements and ethics disclosure things and other financial work.
That's expensive work.
If you were to hire a true financial accountant to do it, it's several thousand dollars a month.
He did it all for free.
Joe Biden never paid him a dime.
And then what does Joe Biden do?
He gives him a presidential appointment.
It looks like graft for free services.
That's what it looks like.
I'm not accusing Eric Schmidt of anything wrong.
I'm accusing Joe Biden of knowing you pay for those services.
That's what the law says you do.
You don't accept free gifts when you're the vice president.
But that seems like an open and shut case.
Somebody does do something for free and then he gets a presidential appointment, John?
We would call that corruption in any other era in American history.
We'll see if the media picks up on this today.
Another one, Eric Schwerin, because he had access to Joe's books, right, all the way to the end of 2017, said, I never saw any money go to James and Sarah Biden for a loan.
Uh-oh, Joe Biden's story on the loan and the payments back from his brother, a big problem now because the guy who had his books Didn't see the cash go out.
I think that those are two very, very big moments in this transcript, and I think they're going to begin to turn the debate.
People are starting to realize Joe Biden was in on this grift.
He was a beneficiary.
Maybe he didn't pay his bills.
Maybe he got cash when he needed it.
Eric Schwerin even suggests, and I remember when people criticized James Comer saying, hey, I want to ask the grandkids about some transactions.
We said, oh, you can't talk to the grandkids.
Well, Eric Schwerin said today he thought there might have been an instance or two where a grandchild sent money to the grandfather.
Now, I don't know about you, but usually it's the other way around.
Grandfathers support their grandchildren.
They try to do something else.
I've never heard of grandchildren trying to support their grandfather unless someone was really ill and you're trying to take care of them in the hospital.
So there's another avenue of inquiry.
This is a guy that knew the Biden's finances intimately.
I think this is a very important moment today in the impeachment.
The free-for-all that Joe Biden has lived for most of his political life starting to get exposed now.
Do you think, given we've got only eight months left, that there will be an impeachment?
I don't know yet.
I'll tell you, I take James Comer at his word on my show last week when he said, I don't think we have the votes for impeachment and I don't think anything would happen in the Senate.
And I want to create real accountability with criminal referrals so that the next Justice Department, maybe in Donald Trump too, can bring criminal charges against the people who perpetrated this influence peddling.
I'm not sure either.
Now, there could be some twists and turns that change that dynamic right now, but you got a two-vote margin in the House and you got a Senate that won't even take up the impeachment of Mayorkas, which happened weeks ago.
So I think that the reality is it's probably going to not result in some sort of impeachment trial.
The more likely reality is that they write these really robust criminal referrals late in the year.
And the next Justice Department can go and punish this conduct that went on for eight years or ten years unchecked.
I mean, it's the greatest foreign influence peddling scandal I've ever seen in my life.
Perfectly teed up for the President, Hunter Biden, and impeachment.
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Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
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We are delighted to be joined by Kate from Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.
Line one.
I'd wait for you until the inauguration next January.
That is far too kind.
What would you like to share with us today?
Is it about the insanity of the last 18 hours?
Oh, it's the blood bath because it's making my blood boil.
But I have an idea and I want to run it by you.
And I'm sorry, but when I get frustrated and I think I have a good idea, I always think I'm going to call you.
I have a lot of nerve, right?
That's great.
We love it.
We love repeat callers.
So what did you think about the response to the blood bath comment?
There is no response.
You know why?
Because I kind of disagree a little bit with the prior combination.
I think so many people are frustrated, they're mad, but they don't know, many of them, gettable voters like Independents, or Democrats who are disgusted, or autoworkers who maybe don't listen to conservative radio, to this minute, they don't know that it wasn't another bloodbath that Trump is talking about.
So here's my idea.
and we have a new rnc i'm so psyched that lara is there but here's the deal can we not do
immediate pieces not just on tv because that's an old media but you know people a lot smarter
than i am would know what the outer outlets are but immediately after something like that happened
that says um he said x y and z call it out immediately bluntly like right away and say
He said this, but here's the truth.
He was calling out Haydn's plan to kill, to let China kill US autoworkers.
So what you're saying is we need some kind of centralized response team that points out the lies as soon as they've occurred, Kate?
Well, that's where I was trying to go.
You're exactly right.
And I think they should be short, sweet, brutal, and honest.
And I think every one of them should have the tagline that says, if he lied to you about this, what else is he lying to you about?
But here's the other thing.
We're almost out of time.
You've got to be quick.
20 seconds.
I will.
You know what else they need to know?
Biden sits there and lets China kill the jobs.
Trump's immediate response is, I'm going to put a freaking 100% tariff on it.
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President Trump next.
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I've got to get going.
So, thank you everybody for being here.
We appreciate it very much.
We appreciate it very much.
Gorka?
Did I see the Gorka man?
Yes, they're...
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We're joined live from the White House with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President
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Yes, and a very special guest one-on-one for the second hour here on America First, my former boss, the 45th, and God willing if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
We spoke to him earlier today, and first we discussed the whole question of the bloodbath comments.
I gotta get going, so thank you everybody for being here, we appreciate it very much.
We appreciate it very much.
Gorka, did I see the Gorka man?
Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
Thank you, Sebastian.
I just spotted you, it's lucky you're nice and tall.
No longer Dr. G, is it the Gawker Man?
Maybe, if the former, and God willing, if we do our part.
The future president gives you a new nickname, you should stick to it.
We are honored to have with us my former boss, the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Mr. President, welcome to America First.
Hi, Sebastian.
I'm lucky I spotted you.
See, you're nice and tall, so I was able to spot you.
Otherwise, I would have been in big trouble if I didn't see you.
You've been so great.
So anyway, and I thank you for that.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
All right, let's begin with the thing that was most of concern to you the last time we met at Mar-a-Lago.
I have to ask you on behalf of the millions of people who are listening right now, how concerned are you Mr. President?
You are trouncing the current incumbent.
You became the nominee with such ease.
Are you certain, are you confident that this election at least will be secure and fair?
They've cheated for many years, decades, I hear.
I was witness to it the last time and that was, in my opinion, absolute.
It was a disgrace.
We won that election.
It was a rigged election.
And look at what's happened between the borders of Afghanistan and Ukraine being attacked by Russia.
This would have never happened.
And with Israel, the attack on Israel October 7th, all of this, this is all of things that
would never have happened.
Inflation would have never happened because I had energy low and when he came in it doubled
and tripled and it threw the whole system off.
It's just so, so, I mean, think of what the world would have been like if we had an election
where we had a fair election, just to put it nicely.
I want to be nice.
We had a fair election.
So they're going to try and rig it.
I have no doubt about it.
They've been doing it for years.
And look, how can you win on open borders, high interest rates, a woke military, all the things that they talk about?
All electric cars.
How about all electric cars?
They don't go far.
They cost too much and they're made in China.
How do you do that?
So how can they win with what they do?
Their policies are so bad.
The thing they do best is cheating at elections and misinformation, like the word bloodbath, which they've used 100 times over the last year about describing things.
And I used it about trade, essentially auto trade, because we're getting ripped off with Biden's really dumb auto policy.
I tell you what, if any autoworker, United autoworker or other, If any autoworker voted against Trump, they are not the smartest people.
If they vote against Trump, if you look at what Biden's done to that industry, it's incredible.
In a short period of time, the electric mandate will destroy it completely.
You mentioned the border, sir.
The State of the Union was recently The current incumbent was incapable of even mentioning correctly the name of Lakin Riley.
You took time to meet with his parents.
I have to ask you, as the man who secured the border when you were the chief executive, what is the Democrat plan?
Is it simply to turn tens of millions of illegals into citizens and then lock in their constituency by breaking the US Constitution?
Why would they let at least eight million illegals into this country in the last three years, sir?
I think that's what their plan is.
Look, at first I would say, you know, because they cheat so much, they don't really need to do that.
They cheat so much with the ballots and everything else that they probably don't need to do that.
But we think we have that locked down.
We hope we have it locked down.
You know, they always come up with another way of doing it, like broken machines all over the place.
If you look at Carrie, The machines were broken.
Everybody waited until Tuesday, which Republicans have historically liked to do.
And then they got out and the machines were broken.
Tremendous percentages of machines were just broken.
And the courts don't give relief.
It's hard to believe.
But I guess their plan is the votes, I guess.
Who would allow this to happen to our country?
They're allowing people from prisons and jails.
They're allowing people from mental institutions and, you know, on steroids is this insane asylums.
I always say silence of the lambs.
Hannibal Lecter, one of the spooky movies, I will tell you.
But they're allowing people from mental institutions and prisons, and they're allowing terrorists into our country at levels never seen before.
And Venezuela, I don't know if you saw, their crime is down 67%.
I'm sure this makes you happy.
Their crime is down 67% because they've gotten all their gang members and all the bad ones and the rough ones And they put them into the United States.
Can you believe this?
Well, it's not just the criminals they are letting into this country, thousands of illegals every single day.
It's also the weaponization of the judiciary.
I still can't comprehend.
I've seen you say it at Mar-a-Lago, at CPAC and elsewhere.
You joke about what they're doing to you, the weaponization of the FBI and the judiciary.
Our good friend and colleague Kash Patel and Lee Smith have theorized that the raid against you, sir, the only president to ever be raided by armed agents of the FBI, was over the binder of documents you declassified regarding the Russia hoax.
Do you think that's why the FBI is coming after you with these absolutely political accusations and persecutions?
It could be.
You don't know.
It's very deeply seated.
You know, when I fired Comey and a lot of other people, you know, I fired a lot of people that were bad for us.
But Comey in particular, he was the head of the FBI, a disaster.
It was a disaster.
He was the one with Hillary Clinton where nothing rose to the occasion.
They had her so-called.
But with me, I mean, you take a look at what they did with her.
You look at a double standard.
I mean, the ultimate is Biden.
He had many, many, many times more documents, more everything.
He had no security, no nothing.
They were on the garage floor of a flimsy garage with no secret service.
I had secret service all over the place.
He had his documents sent to Chinatown.
And those boxes were used.
Did you look at those boxes?
I saw the Zappos box.
I saw the busted up Zappos box in which he kept top secret information.
Absolutely.
I mean, you look at that.
But you look at that as a double standard.
You take a look.
This is not justice.
And they let him off the hook.
And I did nothing wrong, because I come under the Presidential Records Act.
I did absolutely nothing wrong.
Plus, Mar-a-Lago's a secure place, and you have Secret Service here, because I'm President, and when I'm not President, I have a lot of Secret Service here, and all of the other things.
And he gets off scot-free, and with me, I have to go through a process, but I think it's going to work out fine, because I did nothing wrong coming under the Presidential Records Act, which he didn't come under.
But think of it, they let him off scot-free and no problem.
And with me, I have to go through a process.
It's a disgrace what's happening in this country.
The good news is the people see it.
They see it.
And we have the highest poll numbers I've ever had.
I mean, that's good.
We knocked off all the Republicans quickly in record time.
You know, that was record time.
Yes.
I don't know if you keep score of things like that, but it was the fastest ever.
And that's good.
We're focused on one person, and that's Biden.
Crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country.
We have never had a worse president.
And you know, I say oftentimes at a rally or wherever, if you took the 10, I used to say five worst.
Now I say 10 worst.
I think I could go up to 15 pretty soon.
I think I will.
If you took the 10 worst presidents and added them up, they wouldn't have done the damage that this man has done to our country.
And I think you believe that.
But do you think it's him?
There are lots of theories.
I mean, you look at him, he's not cognitively competent.
Who's really running the country?
Is it Obama?
Is it Jill?
Is it the Obama flunkies across government?
Who do you think's really destroying America?
I often ask the same question about him.
Is it him?
Because he's so out of it.
You know, where does he even come up with ideas?
I assume that's what you're talking about, right?
Yes.
Because you're almost saying, like, as evil as it is, it's, like, ideas.
And it's really bad stuff.
And I'm not sure that it's him.
I know he must approve it.
I must look at him and say, can we do this?
And he looks at it with a blank stare and says, yes.
Right?
Nobody... It's the people in... Look, it's...
Lisa, and it's all these guys that surround that oval desk.
It's guys like Andrew Weissman that, you know, because she essentially works for him.
And Lisa Monaco, at the Department of Justice.
She essentially works for him.
So I would say it's her and it's a group of people that surround that beautiful resolute desk.
I don't know if it's Biden.
I don't know.
To me, you know, I don't see it because he's so out of it.
You don't think he even thinks, or he just wants to go to sleep.
But he's surrounded by people that are vicious and smart, and they've been after me for years, and they continue onward, and if they devoted the same energy and talent to making America great again, we'd be a much better country right now.
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You talked about the security of Mar-a-Lago, the Secret Service protection you have.
I just want to raise one issue that ...is of concern to serious individuals and patriots.
My good friend Dan Bongino, who you know is a former Secret Service agent, both he and Alan Dershowitz, who's a Democrat on my show, have both voiced their serious concerns for your safety.
Are you worried that the left are so insane with regards to Antifa, the normalization of violence about you and your family's safety, Mr. President?
Well, I found Secret Service to be great.
And I watch it very closely.
I think they're great people.
I know many of the agents.
And, you know, I've had many, many agents.
And I find them to be doing a great job.
I really... And I would tell you otherwise.
I wouldn't even want them otherwise.
They have really found... I think they're very outstanding people.
Now, in every agency, you have people that aren't so outstanding, right?
I mean, no matter what you do, no matter how you play it.
But I found them to be terrific.
Absolutely.
Good.
So the big news of the first 24 hours of your next presidency, if we make it happen, God willing, is what happens in Ukraine with regards to Russia.
Could you talk to us about the art of the deal when it comes to stopping the bloodshed in Europe?
Sure.
Before I do that, I just want to add one other thing on Secret Service.
Yes.
They just totally refuted the Cassidy Hutchinson, who I barely knew.
I wouldn't even know what she looks like, except I've seen her after the fact.
But Cassidy Hutchinson's ridiculous story that I essentially attacked two Secret Service, nice young, strong guys.
I'm attacking them in the front of, I think she called it the Beast, when it wasn't the Beast.
a different kind of a car, but she originally I believe said it was the beast. But think of it,
she makes up this story, they refuted it in its entirety and strongly. Now the problem is the
J6 committee of, I call it the unselect committee, they're unselect. The unselect committee destroyed
all the evidence and everything.
They destroyed everything.
I hear that Cassidy Hutchinson changed a lot of her testimony.
And I say, what's going to happen to her?
She made up testimony that I was attacking two very powerful, physically powerful people.
And a lot of my friends said, oh, gee, I never knew you were that much into fighting.
You know, I like watching UFC, but they didn't know.
They said, I never knew you were that into fighting.
But the whole thing was such a fake story and it was made up.
It was just made up.
And Secret Service totally refuted it.
And so I just I do want to say that because it's important.
Yes.
I found them to be very reliable.
Very good.
As far as Ukraine is concerned with Russia, number one, it should have never started.
It would have never started.
It wasn't going to happen.
There was never any discussion.
I did discuss with Putin on numerous occasions his love affair with Ukraine.
I mean, it was the apple of his eye.
He would have never done it when I was there, and there were certain reasons, very strong reasons.
Very, very strong reasons he wouldn't have done it.
And he wouldn't have done it for another, maybe more practical reason.
I had oil way down at a very low point.
Energy, oil.
And he makes most of his money from oil, and oil was low.
When Biden came in, he upset the energy apple cart.
You know, we were energy independent, and now we're not.
We go begging for energy from everybody.
We have more than anybody else, but we have to go begging.
So when he came in, Sebastian, he screwed up energy.
That caused inflation, but it also gave a lot of money to Russia.
Now, I happen to think that, you know, in terms of they were making money hand over fist, At $40 a barrel, they don't do great.
At $100 a barrel, they never saw anything like it.
And that was for a long time.
And now it's going up again.
Oil is going up again, if you notice.
And it's going up very substantially, very quickly.
But think of it.
So, he is making all of this money, and he goes in.
But I happen to think that the horrible, most embarrassing day or moment in the history of our country was the withdrawal, the way we withdrew from Afghanistan.
And we left $85 billion worth of equipment behind.
We lost 13 soldiers.
What nobody talks about, we have 38 soldiers, 39 soldiers that were horrifically hurt.
Hundreds of people were killed on both sides.
Hundreds.
And we have American hostages still there.
I mean, they're still there.
That was the worst thing.
And that showed such great incompetence that I happen to think that that really led to Putin saying,
this is the time, let's go.
These guys are incompetent.
They don't know what they're doing.
And he went into Ukraine.
With that being said, it was easy then,
it's much more difficult now.
But the reason, the sad thing is we now have hundreds of thousands of dead people.
And we have cities and a culture that's been blown up.
I mean, many of those cities are gone.
They've been wiped off those beautiful ancient towers of gold.
They've been wiped off the planet.
They could never be resurrected in that form.
And that form was a beautiful form.
So all of that is gone, and so nothing you can do now could ever have competed with the fact of no war.
There would have never been a war.
Not even to make a deal.
I could have made a deal, but I wouldn't have even had to make a deal.
It could have stayed the way it was.
It would have never happened under me, under my administration.
Okay, so now it's all done.
Biden has made a mess of that like he has every other thing.
You have hundreds of thousands of dead people, and you have cities that are blown to pieces.
What do we do?
We have to get both of them together and I say you gotta get this thing done.
You're gonna get it done and I will say certain things to each one of them that I wouldn't say to the rest of the world and that's why I can't tell you much more than that but I believe That I will get it done.
I know Putin very well, and I know Zelensky fairly well.
Zelensky was very honorable with the phone call because he said, no, I wasn't threatened at all.
He could have played that out and made a big deal out of it.
He said, I wasn't threatened at all by President Trump.
It was a very nice call.
I mean, that call turned out to be a perfect phone call.
I called it.
I mean, I actually called it.
And they knew it because they had the laptop from hell.
But anyway, but he played it very honorable.
You know, he could have, you understand what I mean, Sebastian?
He could have grandstanded, threatened, etc, etc.
He wasn't threatened at all.
And he said that, which destroyed their case.
Their no case.
because fortunately they had that call recorded and once they had the recording
that whole thing died and it died fast but what a shame that the country has to
go through all that by these dishonest guys like Schiff, Shifty Schiff. He is so
bad and to think he'll possibly and probably be a senator is is so
disgraceful to this country.
It's such a downer for this country to have a guy like that in the Senate who's lied and everything else.
But I would get them together and I would make a deal.
And I'll get it done.
And I know exactly what to say.
But if I say it to you or if I say it to the public, I can't say it anymore.
But it's a it's a chess match.
You know, it's a giant, very important chess match.
It's a poker game.
And we got to get it done.
Biden said the worst things.
I mean, initially, he was just I don't blame anybody other than Putin.
And I don't blame anybody other than the people involved.
But Biden was so bad in terms of not stopping it.
He could have stopped that easily.
But everything he said was almost the opposite of what he should have been saying.
He's not much of a chess player.
They're good at cheating on elections, but they're not good at a lot of other things, that I can tell you.
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Why do the Democrats hate Israel so much?
Or is it Bibi Netanyahu?
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It's not just Ukraine, however, Mr. President.
We now have a war in the Middle East.
For four years, there was no war under your tenure as Commander-in-Chief.
You have proven yourself to be the most pro-Israel, most philo-Semitic president since the rebirth of Israel in 1948.
You moved the embassy, you recognized Jerusalem.
It's one of my great regrets that I was invited to the reopening of the new embassy that Ambassador Friedman created in Jerusalem.
I couldn't go.
Could you explain why is it, seemingly, that this administration, including Chuck Schumer in the Senate, so hate the man that Israel chose as their Prime Minister?
Why do the Democrats hate Bibi Netanyahu?
I actually think they hate Israel.
Yes.
I don't think they hate Israel.
I think they hate Israel.
And the Democrat Party hates Israel.
And the Democrat Party, if you remember when many Israeli representatives, including Netanyahu, When they came to the country trying, begging, begging, at that time, President Obama, please don't make the Iran nuclear deal, which is a disaster and was a disaster.
And I ended it.
But unfortunately, they didn't do anything with the ending of it.
I ended it and would have had a new deal made with Iran.
It would have been good for everybody and there would have been no nuclear weapons.
You know, they're very close to getting a nuclear weapon right now.
And once they have that, it becomes a different form of negotiation, a much more difficult negotiation.
But I really believe they hate Israel.
And they also see a lot of votes.
Don't forget, when you see those Palestinian marches, even I, I'm amazed at how many people are in those marches.
And guys like Schumer see that.
And to him, it's votes.
I think it's votes more than anything else, because he was always pro-Israel.
He's very anti-Israel now.
Any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion, they hate everything about Israel, and they should be ashamed of themselves, because Israel will be destroyed.
You have Iran now making a nuclear weapon.
None of that would have happened with me.
That's a big thing.
With me, Iran was broke.
They were absolutely stone-cold broke.
There was no terrorism because they didn't have money to fund Hamas and Hezbollah and the other 28 groups.
They had no money.
They were stone-cold broke.
China couldn't buy oil from them.
None of the countries were buying oil from them at my order.
They didn't buy it.
I said, you buy it, you're not going to do business with the United States of America.
They said, we'll pass.
And they didn't buy oil.
And they were broke.
Now they have $221 billion, including the $6 billion that we gave them for hostages.
Okay?
We have $6 billion.
Including the $10 billion that we gave them so that Iraq could get electricity.
How about that?
We gave them $10 billion so Iraq gets electricity, and Iraq wants to throw us out.
The whole thing is crazy.
These people are the worst.
There's something wrong with them.
They are the worst negotiators.
All they're good at is evil.
They're evil people.
They're sick.
They're evil.
They weaponized the Justice Department to get Trump.
But Russia and all these other countries can do whatever they want to the United States.
China.
China is like, we're like a puppet for China now.
He doesn't do anything with China because they gave him so much money.
He's a Manchurian candidate.
Look, he's the worst president in the history of our country by 10 times.
There has never been anything like it.
Jimmy Carter is the only one happy.
Because he's a brilliant president compared to Biden.
He's like a brilliant, totally brilliant president compared to Joe Biden.
Do you think that it's actually because they're compromised, the likes of Schiff that you mentioned, Biden?
Do you think the Chinese have something on them?
I think they have them on Biden, yeah.
I think they have it on Biden.
Probably have it on Schiff, too.
But I think they have something on Biden.
I think there's no reason that Biden could be so weak with China.
There's no reason.
It's pathetic.
He's a Manchurian candidate, I'm telling you.
It's ridiculous.
And frankly, until they did the... I would never speak in such harsh tones about the presidency, because I have such respect for it.
But when they indicted me on all of this nonsense, including local stuff, everything, you know, they... You saw Rafani, or the boyfriend, or both, went to the Justice Department and the White House, had long meetings, eight-hour meetings, numerous days.
This was all planned.
This was all done by the White House.
And when they did that, I say, well, now I can just talk freely in the way I want to talk.
He's the worst president in history.
There has never been worse.
Our country is in trouble and our democracy is in trouble because of him for a number of reasons, including the fact that he's incompetent.
But for a number of reasons, our democracy is in tremendous trouble because of Joe Biden.
Well, let's talk about... He's weaponized the Justice Department against his political opponent.
Something that was unthought of for our country.
Very, very commonly used in third world countries, by the way.
It's police state tactics.
It's police state tactics.
That's why, you know, the FBI now stands for Fascist Bureau of Intimidation, truly.
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How will he drain the swamp?
Let's talk about our side for a moment.
The last time we met in person at Mar-a-Lago, I asked you about Rona Romney McDaniel, and you swore me to secrecy.
You said, we're getting rid of her.
Finally, Lara has taken over.
I'm very excited that the person I mentioned to you, Scott Pressler, has been hired by Lara in the RNC.
But I have to ask you, are we there, Mr. President?
Have we arrived?
Is the Republican Party now MAGA?
Is it America First, finally?
Or is it still full of rhinos?
I think it's 95% MAGA.
And, you know, I get a kick out of it.
You saw how quickly we disposed of my competition.
That's because it's a MAGA party.
It's Make America Great Again.
We want our country to be great again.
We're not a great country right now.
We're a left out all over the world.
We're, you know, we owe $35 trillion.
The whole thing is crazy.
We are not... When I see us giving billions and billions of dollars to Taiwan and other countries... You know, Taiwan, don't forget, Taiwan stole our chip industry.
We had 100% of the chip industry.
Now they have 95% of the chip industry.
They're a very wealthy country.
I'm all for Taiwan.
I'm all for everybody.
But why are we giving them $16 billion, okay?
They should be giving us $16 billion.
Why are we giving them $16 billion?
I'm for make America great again.
It's very simple.
Make America great again.
And I'm not for handing out parceling money.
We had the greatest border, the strongest border in the history of our country.
We had the greatest economy in the history of our country.
We rebuilt the military.
We had no wars other than I got, I finished the ISIS war.
We took over, as you know better than anybody, you speak about it better than anybody, we took out 100% of the ISIS caliphate.
I did it in four weeks instead of five, six, seven years, which is what I was told it would take if we could do it at all.
I did it in four weeks.
We have a great military.
And you don't have to worry about our military going woke.
They're not going to go woke.
But the top people would like it to.
But they don't have the strength to make our military.
Our military is not woke, and it's not gonna be woke.
But they would like to try, and they are trying.
They had Milley and these guys.
They are trying.
Amazingly, they're trying to make our military weak.
If you are back in the White House, as I said when I was working for you, I stole a phrase from the Marine Corps to explain your foreign policy, which is, no better friend, no worse enemy.
So, you know, the world will be stable, there'll be no more, you know, new wars, and our friends, our allies will feel secure.
My question is, what happens internally, Mr. President, because We see you facing 700 years in prison on trumped-up charges.
We see Catholics being surveilled by the FBI because they go to Latin Mass.
We see two and a half, we see a quarter of a million of illegal warrantless surveillance on people who simply are supporters of you, Mr. President.
How hard is it going to be To drain the corrupt officials and the permanent bureaucrats inside the intelligence community, the FBI and the DOJ.
Because changing the leadership will not be enough in my opinion.
Yeah, well, the leaders are going to have to make those changes, and they're going to have to do a very complete job.
I made a lot of changes, but that swamp is deep.
Look, Comey was a big change.
You know, getting rid of Comey was not something that was... And I did it very early.
You know, a lot of people said, you should have done it sooner.
Well, you know, I did it very early, within a few months.
I saw that with Hillary Clinton, what he did, how he did that.
The whole Hillary thing was so sad.
And indirectly it ended up hurting her.
You know why?
Because the FBI revolted on him.
When he went up there and he started saying all of the bad things she did, The FBI revolted at him.
I think they would have literally gone out.
That was what was happening.
And then he went back and he said, well, let me rethink it, essentially, right?
And he had to redo everything.
But no, Comey was bad news.
I got him out.
I got a lot of people out.
A lot of people.
Many, many people out.
But it's deep.
It runs deep.
And we'll do it.
We were interrupted by a thing called the China virus.
And, you know, we did a great job in that.
Never got the credit for the job we did.
I ended up handing over a stock market that was higher than just previous to COVID coming in.
I did a great job.
We had empty cupboards from past administrations.
It wasn't me.
We had empty cupboards.
We didn't have anything.
We didn't have gowns.
We didn't have masks.
We didn't have anything.
We didn't have ventilators.
We became the king of ventilators.
We made them literally.
We ended up making them for the whole world.
But we did a great job in that, but it was a big interruption, obviously.
You know, the one interesting thing, I told you this once before, when I came to Washington, I was a New York person, New York developer.
I knew New York very well, but I was only in Washington 17 times, didn't know a lot of people, etc.
And I came in, And I got to know the people.
I know them now.
I think I know.
I know the good ones and the dumb ones and the smart ones and the bad ones.
And I know the people.
I know that whole world now very well.
And we have unbelievable, unbelievable people that are going to go in and people that are loyal to our country.
I don't want him to be loyal to me.
I want him to be loyal to our country.
Talking of your picks, I've been told who you are considering as vice president.
I've been told I can't announce it until it's official.
When are you thinking of making that announcement, sir?
No hurry.
And there is no one person.
I mean, I'll tell you, there are numerous people.
But we have a lot of great people in the Republican Party.
We have a lot of great people that nobody ever heard of in the Republican Party.
You know, there are excellent senators that not a lot of people know.
I think it's probably good to have somebody with some political experience because you learn a lot about a person.
This politics is a cleansing action.
You understand what I mean, Sebastian?
It's a cleansing action.
You know, you pick a politician, but then you look at a guy.
Take a look at Schiff.
Look how dirty he is, how filthy dirty he is, and yet he's allowed to ride along and maybe become a senator soon.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
It shouldn't be allowed to happen.
No, absolutely corrupt.
The most mendacious person on Congress, and that takes some doing.
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The most important question, the deepest question of all.
Why on earth is he running again after what they did to him the first time?
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Last question, sir.
I was in the ballroom at Mar-a-Lago on November 22 when you announced your re-election campaign launch.
And despite having worked for you and been in the White House, it was like a gut punch halfway through that speech that I recommend all of our listeners and viewers watch.
Because it struck me that you are prepared to do it again.
After everything they put you through, the calumny, the smears, the lies, the attacks on you, your wife, your children, would you explain?
You know, you could have gone back to your world, you know, global business, the real estate, the golf courses, lived your life as a private citizen.
Why on earth would you wish to put yourself and your family through this again for another four years?
And by the way, if I did that, or if I were in 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 7th, or 8th, or 10th, or 15th place like some of these people, like Asa Hutchinson, where he never got... he never registered at one point, I don't think.
I mean, he was at zero, and he ran for a year.
If I was there, I would have never been...
Indicted.
I call them Biden.
They're not indictments.
They're Biden indictments.
It's weaponization.
And it's a disgrace.
But none of the things that I have going right now against the horrible persecution, none of that would have happened.
But that's okay.
Ultimately, the reason is simple.
I love our country.
I see the potential in our country.
I know how well we did in the last election.
Much better than I did in the first.
Do you know, if I felt that I lost the last election, I would never have run.
But we won the last election by a lot.
And I'm running because of that and because of the fact that we have still tremendous potential.
But we have to bring it back because we're at the abyss.
We have tremendous potential.
We're going to make America great again.
It's a very simple thing.
Make America great again.
That's why I'm doing this.
And we can do it, and we can do it quickly.
We have to do things that are going to be tough and strong, but we can do it quickly.
They've set our country on a course that it will self-destruct very quickly.
It's a disaster what's going on.
The only thing good is the stock market.
And many people have said, many analysts have said, one of the best analysts said, the only reason the stock market's up is because Trump looks like he's going to get elected.
And if he were not elected, the stock market would crash like 1929.
I happen to believe that.
So I'm really doing it to make America great again.
Is that Scott Besson you're talking about?
I think he's fantastic.
He's a very respected guy.
Scott did indeed say that, yes.
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God bless you.
Our very best to Melania and everyone at Mar-a-Lago and Trump headquarters.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you very much, Sebastian.
God bless.
Thank you.
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What an America First day!
We open the show with my first guest, my former colleague, the editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com, that conservative juggernaut.
Then we interview my former boss, President Trump, for a whole hour.
And now...
I get to turn the tables on the man who thinks he can just be a radio host on Breitbart News every morning and just interview me every Thursday.
Not so fast, Mike Slater.
Welcome to the manhood hour, Mike.
Hold on, hold on.
We have a lot to talk about.
Who were your guests already?
Some guy called Alex Marlow, he runs something called Breitbart, and then a man who's the leader of the opposition, got 64 million votes back in 2016, and then got, you know, 80 million votes four years later.
Have you heard of him?
His name's Donald Trump.
That's that's the lead in for me.
What a drop off.
No pressure.
No pressure, Mike.
And also just real quick is you are gracious enough and I cannot I don't know how you do everything you already do to join us every Thursday at 8 o'clock.
I and I'm not just saying this.
I feel like Thursday.
It's like a safe space where I go and I could like sit at your feet and ask you questions about anything and you answer in your wisdom.
And then you asked me to come on your show and like this makes no sense to me.
So well, I'm way more comfortable asking questions and trying to learn that I am imparting any sort of wisdom.
So we'll see how this goes.
Well, hopefully, 50 minutes from now, the logic will be apparent to you.
But I'm going to do a real... I'm going to open the kimono now.
And I think I told you this.
Maybe I told you this on the air, because we've been doing it for a while now.
Because I was doing it every Thursday with my buddy, Alex Marlow, who was on the show earlier.
And then, for some reason, like he doesn't like to get up at 2 a.m.
or something, he said, I'm not going to do the show anymore.
I'm going to run this thing I'm supposed to be running.
I thought, what a loser, anyway.
No, seriously, that guy was...
I think he remains one of the hardest working guys in media.
And then he said, we're getting a replacement host and I hope you'll stay on every Thursday.
I thought, well...
Yeah I mean if it's somebody I know like Joel Pollock or one of the Breitbart team and then they give it to some guy called Mike Slater and I kind of I think I think I didn't come on the show for a couple of weeks and then I reached out and I said I miss my Thursday mornings I like being interviewed as well so let's do it and I have to say it has been such a A breath of fresh air, because we didn't know each other.
I had no expectations.
And then, you're very unusual, and this isn't just me talking, because I have regularly, every week, I have Lord Conrad Black on the show.
And as everybody can attest to here, I usually introduce him, and I had him on my Newsman of the Night show on Sunday, and I said the same thing.
I say, Lord Conrad Black is the kind of person I'd like to be if I ever grow up.
I mean, this is an intellectual giant, a man who can talk to you about basically anything and just finished writing a thousand page first volume of The History of Western Civilization, which you interviewed him on.
And after he went on your show, he just told me just out of nowhere, I went on that Breitbart show and that host he was really good really quite quite an educated oh no he said oh no Eric said they can vouch for me before we had him on the show last week he said quite an educated chap now now when Lord Conrad Black calls anyone educated you can retire at that point and just give yourself multiple PhDs so
I focused on the word chap out of that descriptor, but you're right.
Educate is probably the more important part of that.
We stopped talking last week and I got done and I was like, I blew that.
That stunk.
This guy thinks I'm a total idiot.
So I'm really No, you clearly didn't.
So for those who are new to Mike Slater, don't know about your background, talk to us about who you are, what you've done, because I want to hear about the educational components as well.
I don't care if you're an autodidact or you're homeschooled, because your radio functions at a different level.
It's not your average radio show.
So tell us about who Mike Slater is.
Yeah, I'll give you the quick and stop me when it's boring.
I grew up in Syracuse, New York.
I was a swimmer my whole life.
That's pretty much how I got into Yale.
So that's where I went to college.
My mom is a flaming on fire progressive, loves Hillary Clinton, despises Donald Trump, but works.
My dad, he passed away about 10, 11 years ago, but he was more of a conservative guy.
So we grew up in a split home.
Went to college pretty conservative, but not too much.
But I always wanted to get into radio because when I would drive to swim practice, about 40 minutes, my mom would drive me to swim practice in school.
And whatever the guy on the radio was talking about, the local guy, Jim Reath was his name, whatever he talked about on the radio, that's what I wanted to talk about, or that's what we talked about at dinner that night.
So I grew up wanting to be that guy.
And what was he?
Well, I presume because your mom was driving, he was a lefty.
Yeah, totally.
He was like a local guy who was definitely more on the left, but like would have hated Trump, like definitely not a MAGA.
He wasn't a Sebastian Gorka.
Yeah, so he was like a lefty guy.
But I didn't really know.
Right.
I just wanted to help start conversation.
So the greatest compliment anyone ever gives is when they tell me they listen in the car with their kids.
And I always tell them, I'm the only radio host, I think, who will say, if your kid asks you a question about something they hear on the radio, you turn the radio off and you have that conversation.
We'll be back tomorrow.
But don't miss those opportunities with your kids.
So I was in school and I got more and more conservative because the place was insane.
So before we talk about that, what was it about, I mean, you're sitting in the car going to swim meets, but what touched you about radio?
Why did you like radio?
That's such a good question.
Okay, so it was Jim.
So first of all, something my mom and I could both listen to.
So that was interesting.
It was unique.
But then it was, it was Glenn Beck.
And the way that Glenn Beck told stories, It was a remarkable storyteller, sort of like who's the and now, you know, the rest of the story, Paul.
Was it Paul?
Yeah.
Paul Harvey.
Yeah.
And the way the way you could weave a story I thought was just like such a beautiful art form and so incredibly personal.
Radio is an incredibly personal medium, way more than TV.
TV, you get power.
Radio, you get a deep connection with someone.
I'll never forget this.
This was pretty early in my radio career in Jackson, Tennessee.
That was my first radio job.
Um, you know, small town market, like two 97 or whatever.
And we were the Slater Raiders.
That was like our name of like, you know, like, uh, Russia's ditto heads.
We were the Slater Raiders.
And somebody called me on the way to the hospital as his wife was about to
give birth to their first child.
And he was so excited.
He had he said he had to call someone and he called into our radio show.
And it was our very first that was the beginning of the Slater taters.
There's a bit like the beginning like kids who listen to the show.
And I was like, wow, like, what just happened there?
Like, that's really interesting that this guy felt Such a personal connection that he wanted to call into a radio show and announce this wonderful news.
And I was like, oh, this is it.
Like, this is so cool.
What is it?
Because I love him.
I've always loved radio since I was a kid.
What is it for you that makes it so intimate?
Is it the live with the call in?
What?
I mean, because it is a completely different medium.
It's unique.
Yeah, I think it's the unrehearsedness of it.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's the pacing of it.
It's slow.
It's slower.
I like that, right?
Like, TV's very... You got 30... Like, I hate going on Fox News.
I really do.
Sorry if there's any Fox News... You mean you don't like having to solve an issue in 180 seconds, Mike?
180.
They don't give me 180.
They give me 30 on a panel with two other jokers.
And it's like, what?
What a waste.
Like, this is so stupid.
And I just find that actually kind of insulting.
So the idea that you can sit down with a Lord Conrad Black for a half an hour and talk about a thing in depth.
Yeah.
Like that's really right.
And then you can get this to radio inside, but you can get You get low, you can like talk to this microphone.
If you're watching on the TV now, you can like really talk to this microphone really personally.
and you can tell a story slowly and take your time and really pull out the important things
that you can't do on a TV, because you got to go, go, go,
and you would need, you know, things got to come in and flash.
It's like, eh, that's not for me.
So I love radio and I want to be in it forever.
All right, well, you've definitely got a skill.
And in fact, you are quite unique amongst radio hosts because you've actually got a little bit
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We're the first time ever on the show, the one, the only, Mike Slater of Breitbart News Daily.
Every morning, follow him at Slater Radio.
All right, so we'd like to get to know our guests here on the Manhood Hour before we go to deep dive on the big questions.
So you had a kind of politically divided home, mom, super lib, listening to talk radio, however, on the way to the swim meets.
You get into Yale as a swimmer.
You're kind of nascent conservative.
And then what happens?
Yale was back graduate 2007 was a crazy place and I think this place is insane
actually this is interesting this is very relevant view I went to a speech by
John Bolton on camp and I was so appalled at the response he received
from all the students banging on desks like monkeys It was crazy.
Banging on desks.
Remember when you were in Oxford the other day?
Yeah.
I feel like people are pretty tame.
These people were absolute animals, screaming at him, hissing at him.
It was crazy.
So I wrote an editorial in the Yale Daily News about just how insane everyone was, and then I was invited on.
These two girls had a conservative radio show host at Yale.
I don't know.
And they invited me on, and as soon as they turned the microphone on, I was like, boom, I love this.
I'm doing this the rest of my life.
That's the end of that.
But you were the guest, right?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, they just had me on.
I don't remember what I said, and I don't remember anything about it.
I literally remember The microphone turning on and I loving, instantly loving it.
And I went right to the program director and said, this is going into my senior year.
I was too afraid to do a show of my own, right?
But this got me behind the mic.
And I asked the program director, I said, can I stick around this summer and do a show?
He's like, yeah, sure.
Of course.
Like, whatever.
But we're here.
And I did it.
I've done it ever since.
And I hope to do it forever.
My crazy Yale story, I was walking through cross campus, like the middle of campus where they always have like these weird displays or whatever.
And they had a big setup called Tolerance Village.
And it was... I can't even begin to, man.
Tolerance Village.
OK, carry on.
Yeah, you're with me.
You paint this picture.
And they were like, it's like plywood set up to look like a city, like a city skyscrapers and buildings.
So, of course, I'm with my buddy and it was like, we got to go to Tolerance Village.
Nothing's more important than right now walking, taking a stroll through Tolerance Village.
So we walk through and it's like, you know, universal health care and, you know, stop eating meat or whatever.
It's like all the progressive causes.
And, uh, one of them was barless prisons.
I'm like, all right.
I like find the nearest like purple haired lady.
It's like, what are we talking about?
Like, what, what do you mean by those prisons?
She explains not humane, whatever.
I said, well, how do you propose to keep the criminals in?
And she said shrubbery.
No, no, no.
That's Monty Python.
Fetch me a shrubbery.
Dr. Gorgon.
Now listen, that was crazy.
But now that I tell that story, I haven't told the story in a long time.
I think they just bypassed the shrubbery and now they just don't put anyone in prison.
So maybe that girl was actually pretty hardcore.
She was pretty tough on crime, actually, these days.
At least she was implying that there should still be a place where criminals go.
Now we don't even put the criminals there, we just send them out.
So she was probably pretty conservative now, amongst people.
But Yale was crazy.
And did it, in addition to the crazy Looney Tunes cities with little model prisons with no bars, what about in the classroom?
Was it as bad in the classroom?
No, it actually wasn't.
Here's the thing about Yale.
My experience at Yale is it's really hard to get in.
And once you're in, it's impossible to fail.
Yeah.
I found the academic rigor, and I was not one of academic rigor, so I wasn't complaining when I was there, but looking back on it, it was pretty pitiful actually.
I had a year at Harvard and grade inflation doesn't quite encompass what you're talking about.
No, no, no.
I was at one course that was taught by Stephen Brill.
He was the founder of Court TV, and it was a small seminar.
There were like 12 people in it.
And the girl sitting right next to me, she said, proudly said, I get my news from The Daily Show.
So it's like, there was no real academic Rigor or discussions.
It was just nothing.
It was just nothing.
But you clearly have a philosophical bent and a historic mind.
So is that just your own personal reading?
Where does that come from?
Yeah, school ruined reading for me because you had to read constantly all the time.
So I didn't read until like five years later.
And I didn't read anything until five years after school.
And I was like, all the people who I admire, They all read.
They read all the time.
Yeah.
So I was like, I got to start reading.
So that's when I started reading a lot and learning and thinking about economics.
Like, you know, the great Milton Friedman and Hazlitt and Mises.
That was like my first cutting of teeth was economics.
And then I became a Christian about 11 years ago.
And that's when the social aspect of it.
I used to do the goofy thing, which is such a ridiculous sentence, looking back on it.
But I think a lot of people said it.
What was it?
I'm a social liberal, but a fiscal conservative.
Remember people saying that?
I'm a fiscal conservative but social liberal, which is a way of saying like, I want to lower taxes, but I'm really a good person.
Don't be mad at me.
I'm still nice.
And like, that's so absurd.
Then once I became a Christian, obviously, the soul and That's when you become a man.
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Okay, let's dive in, Mike.
How bad is the war on classical masculine values, in your opinion?
Oh.
Oh, wow.
How bad?
How do you define how bad something is?
Has it been worse?
That's a better question.
When has it ever been worse?
At the very least, we are unmoored.
I was just thinking about this analogy that I was talking about a different C.S.
Lewis analogy, but this one popped my head.
So this is relevant here.
So C.S.
Lewis in Mere Christianity talks about ships and how three things need to happen in order for a journey to be successful.
First, each ship has to be seaworthy.
It can't sink.
Ships can't be bumping into each other.
That's not going to work.
And you got to know where we're all going.
If half the fleet ends up in New York and the other half ends up in Calcutta, then that's not a successful journey.
So all three things need to be in order in order for it to all function.
All three are gone.
We're totally lost and totally unmoored.
We have no idea where we're going.
We're bumping into each other all the time.
And we have like individual ships aren't even seaworthy.
Now the unmoored almost implies like we just sort of forgot and lost focus.
I think that's where we were for maybe like 20 years or something.
We're just sort of like we're just kind of going along to get along.
But now I think the ships have been completely like pirated and commandeered and like are like being driven to wickedness and evil.
Yeah.
So that's how bad things are right now.
Is that an answer?
That's perfect.
I love that.
May Christianity is one of the books that should be on every man's reading list.
And what is the, to use a military term, the center of gravity?
What's the epicenter, the focal point?
of that assault on classic masculine values? Is it academe?
Is it the quote-unquote elites? Is it the teacher training colleges, social media? If we could
deal a death blow to one of those propagators of ideology, which should we start with?
I am wholly con... I don't want to say wholly.
I wish I was wholly concerned.
My top priority is the soul.
It is impoverished.
Who did I read this to the other day?
Theodore Dalrymple, perhaps?
Amazing author.
He said, I traveled the world.
I've been to Africa.
I've been to all these countries.
I was a prison psychologist for decades in the poor slums of England.
He's seen the worst of the worst.
He said, I can say without a doubt that the most spiritually, emotionally, intellectually, but it's all these words like mostly like soul related, impoverished peoples are Westerners.
We're the materialistically richest And the soul-based, most impoverished.
I was talking to this guy.
He's one of the foremost psychologists.
His name's Baumeister or something.
I don't know.
He wrote a book with John Tierney, who's great.
And this other guy, I forget.
But he's like one of the top psychologists.
And I asked him a question.
This was years ago, like four years ago.
And I asked him a question.
I said, so what is your studies?
What is it uncovered about the soul?
Whatever the question was.
I mentioned the soul.
And he said, oh, we don't deal with the soul.
And I said, I said, you're a psychologist, which literally means the study of the soul is what that is what the word means.
And he's like, Yeah, we don't we don't study that.
It's just the brain.
So I think that we can get into a whole thing here.
I think the biggest lie, one of the biggest lies in our world today that I think then then is like a ball rolling down the hill is evolution.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So if you want to go, like the idea that like, if you grow up in a world where you think something came from nothing, it's all meaningless.
It just happened to be this way.
Hold that thought because you've opened a whole can of worms and I want to dissect that.
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When you think about your conceptualization of what it means to be grown up, to be responsible,
to be a father.
Who most shaped that for you?
When you say, oh my gosh, that's who I want to be.
For most, or if you're lucky, it's your father, or a grandfather, or an uncle.
Who was it for Mike Slater that made you think, yeah, that's the man I want to be?
Ah, what a good question.
What a good question.
OK, I'm going to go a little bit outside.
I got a few, so I'm just going to pick.
Good, yeah, yeah.
My college swim coach, Frank Keefe, just passed away.
A year or so ago.
He was older when he was, when we were coaches, maybe 70s.
Uh, he, his, his wife had some debilitating something, severe Alzheimer's something.
And he took care of her like a man and brought her to practice every morning, was with her, loved her, cared for her.
Never left her side until the day she gave her last breath.
And to show that to men, young men in college, what love looked like, we didn't recognize it, but looking back on it, it's all the more powerful.
So he'd bring his ailing wife to the sessions?
Yeah, yeah.
Every practice, every morning, every afternoon, he would care.
He took care of her.
He took care of her.
She was like, I don't want to say a vegetable, it's like a strong word, but you know, like she was that basically.
I don't know what the nicer word for that is.
So Coach Keith, give us one more that influenced Mike Slater.
I always go back to it.
I heard this the other day that you should, when you look at a social issue today, you should think, how would my grandpa have reacted to that?
And I think of my grandpa, obviously.
He was young when I passed away, but I have a picture of him in World War II where he's Holding up a Jeep axle over his head with one arm.
And I cannot tell if he was like part of like a deception campaign or that was like just inflatable axle.
I don't think so.
But I don't know how much Jeep axles were in 1942.
But that like it's just a man.
The higher the pants, the more the wisdom.
And his were real high.
That's so cool.
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OK, Coach Keefe and Grandpa Slater.
We love that.
OK, let's go back because you kind of touched on a neurologic point for me.
And I feel like we've really dropped the ball, or we've kind of been castrated on this issue.
I think evolution, along with Marxism, is perhaps the most pernicious ideology that's created a soulless Western civilization.
Would you concur?
Oh, 100%.
That's perfectly said.
Absolutely.
It destroys the creator right from the jump.
Right.
It's Genesis 1.1.
Like, gone.
It's gone.
The creator's gone.
And again, it can only lead to nihilism, I think.
We come from nothing.
We're randomly here.
Everything's explained by just millions of years, which is a ridiculous concept.
There's a book called I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist.
And that was one of the pivotal early apologetic, those were the first apologetic books I read, and just how the impossibility of human life, once you read about that, and even Darwin talked about how the eye is impossible.
And none of it answers the unmoved mover.
Nothing in science explains the unmoved mover or the essence of creation.
And I was listening to the sermon Yesterday from Father Scalia.
We are blessed to listen to Antonin Scalia's grandson as our priest.
And he was talking about, you know, the mustard seed.
And I just stopped for a second and I went down this thing as he was sermonizing.
An awful verb.
I did not use that.
Sorry, Father Pete.
And I thought, a grain.
Can we just stop for a second and think about a grain is this big, it dies, and out of it comes a whole plant.
In the case of an acorn, a flipping oak tree.
And I'm supposed to believe that happened without a designer.
My contention is, you have to be really imbecilic to be an atheist.
Yes, but how Satan has flipped it to, if you believe in creation, you're the idiot.
Yeah.
That's unbelievable.
It's so funny you bring that up, the seed.
We just started planting some vegetable seeds about two, three weeks ago with the kids.
We have seven, six Four and one year old.
So we just they're each planted like five seeds or five different plants.
We got the whole thing going on.
And they started to sprout and they're like pretty like they're like crushing it right now.
And one of the I think it's the pumpkin seed.
The pumpkin plant is coming up and the pumpkin seed is still on top of the plant before it kind of opens up.
And Jack, my seven year old, was just enthralled by this because it was proof that it actually came from this one little seed, like the remnant of the seed is still remaining.
And his mind was blown.
That this, everything you just read, this green thing can come from this dead seed that I myself put into the ground.
And like, that is creation.
And if you take that away and just say, evolved out of goo.
I don't know how much time we have.
Is this our last segment?
We've got one more short one.
One more short one.
But we will have to continue.
And the idea that evolve from goo, I call it the sludge hypothesis.
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And B, if you do, then anything is permissible.
And I mean anything.
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If you believe it's all an accident, then nothing has inherent value.
And you are.
You are equivalent to the sludge from which they say you came.
That's what we have to face head-on and speak the truth of.
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We're back with our special guest, Mike Slater, here on the Manhood Hour.
I've got to squeeze in a mention of your two books.
Let's start with the children's book, Imagine Jack and the History Kids.
Ties in well to one of the questions I ask our guests.
What is the thing we have to teach the next generation of young men the most?
So talk to us a little bit about your book.
Okay, yeah, great.
So my son, I wrote for my son when he was like two.
I wanted him to be a boy who could be with himself and use his imagination.
So it's a story about a little kid, Jack, who gets bored of his video games and his mom tells him to go outside and he doesn't know what the sun is.
And then his friend Paul comes riding by on his bicycle.
And he says, the British are coming, the British are coming.
And you turn the page and the bicycle turns into a horse.
And he's Paul Revere.
And they're riding through town.
And then they have to cross this river.
And they're like, how are we going to cross the river?
And then their buddy George comes down on a boat, and they turn the page, and it's George Washington crossing the Delaware.
And they go through all these adventures, and they meet up with all these other historical figures, and they got to get home by dinnertime.
And they're just so excited to tell mom and dad about all the things they imagined today, and what they're going to imagine again tomorrow.
So I'll put you on the video game.
And read the book.
I want to read that.
I want to read that book.
Like I use big words in it.
I do that on purpose too.
Kids are capable of more than we give them credit for.
So, there's big words in the book.
So, lots of ages will like it.
Your other book is How to Change Someone's Mind.
Give me just one tease from that because, you know, I do this show and my son says, Dad, you're always preaching to the choir and you're mobilizing the Patriots in the base.
And I see that as my mission, but sometimes he wants me to broaden my aperture.
What is the most useful tool you've discovered to bringing somebody at least onto your same frequency,
Mike?
Yeah, there's about 10 steps to it, but I'll give you one, my favorite, the where.
You have to find out the where of someone's opinion.
One of two things will happen.
When you literally just ask them, where did you form that?
They'll either say, I don't know.
And they'll look off into the distance trying to figure it out.
And as they do that, you can watch their opinion crumble in front of their own very eyes.
Like, oh, I don't really know where I'm from.
Or they'll give you a big dramatic story about where.
And both are great, because now we know what we're talking about.
And then you can start to really understand where they're coming from.
And then you can do a better job of analyzing it from that point forward.
But make sure that that person and you know not only what they think, But where they form their opinion.
Very, very essential.
It's essential if you want to change someone's mind is where they formed it.
Priceless.
Absolutely flipping priceless.
Well, that felt like it lasted about three minutes.
To be continued.
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The overtly adult one.
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