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Dec. 28, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Nikki Haley Civil War blunder

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	know, I'm not a fan of the It's not going to be an easy time.
	It's a longer story.
	It's a dark turn, but I think it's, I know, I mean, I have a good sense of what's going to happen here.
	Okay.
	They're leading into a trap.
	They're not going to let Trump get anywhere near the White House.
	They're not going to let him.
	So the goal is, you know, have him be the nominee, and by hell or high water, one way or another, they're not going to have him.
	What about the other two though?
	It's not them.
	within our own party yes it is
	hey look at the people who were voted to keep trump off the ballot
	who are they putting up?
	who wants us to keep him off the ballot?
	larry fink to reid hoffman, who are they propping up?
	so it's a game and i'm not gonna, i'm in this to make sure that that doesn't
	happen they want to be two horse race, eliminate him
	put up actually a trojan horse within the republican party that keeps the war machine humming
	greetings dear friends We're at work.
	This is not a best of.
	This is not a recording.
	Everybody I tune into on Conservative Radio, even a good friend of mine, I tuned into his show today and in two minutes I realized I've heard this show before.
	They even haven't told us this is a best of, this is a recording.
	We're in studio!
	All of us!
	Everybody's back from vacation.
	Even Eric and Alex.
	Jeff, isn't it wrong?
	I'm going to grouse now at my fellow hosts across the nation.
	If you're doing a recorded repeat, shouldn't there be a liner where you tell people this is a best of?
	Shouldn't the host say, and here's an interview I did earlier?
	There should be, but this is not a good week.
	Everybody is off.
	This is a week we should be at a best of.
	Okay, I know you guys want to be home.
	I know you guys want to be... I know you want to be on the golf course.
	You want to be somewhere warm.
	No!
	I want snow, damn it!
	And I want lots of it right now.
	But that's not what I'm saying.
	I know, I know next year we'll have negotiations.
	We'll talk to Phil.
	We'll talk to Tom.
	And maybe we can have some kind... Maybe we can be lazy SOBs like everybody else in radio and take this week off.
	But my point is a technical one, Mr. G. You've been in radio since the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
	When you're doing a recording repeat, shouldn't the show host or his producer tell everyone they're listening to a repeat?
	Yes, because it's insulting to the people that listen every day, because they can figure it out right away.
	Right!
	The most loyal listeners, it takes them, oh, hang on, I heard them say that before.
	From now on, we never ever do that on this show.
	You Mr. G or myself are going to always say, and now you're listening to a best of.
	Okay.
	Enough of that.
	And look, we're different.
	We're special.
	We're working this week.
	Okay.
	That's who we are.
	We're America first.
	Okay.
	Let's analyze that clip, which is now verified.
	Thanks to Mr. G telling me it was reposted on Vivek Ramaswamy's own account.
	And it's very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	He's about to go and speak at a campaign event and somebody asks him about what's happening to President Trump.
	And then the other two candidates, we know who that is.
	That's Nikki Haley, who's in a lot of trouble right now for a comment she made yesterday.
	and DeSantis and I want to play it again.
	We are announcing a repeat here for the next 40 seconds on this show because I need to unpack this.
	We've got an amazing show lined up for you today so next three hours you stay here.
	But is Vivek right?
	Does he have proof of this?
	Let's just listen to what One of the candidates is alleging about his own party.
	Play cut.
	On social media, Twitter said that they're not going to, they're going to take Biden out.
	It's a longer story.
	It's a dark turn.
	And I think it's, I know, I mean, I have a good sense of what's going to happen here.
	Okay.
	They're leading into trap.
	They're not going to let Trump get anywhere near the White House.
	They're not going to let him.
	So the goal is, you know, have him be the nominee.
	And by hell or high water, one way or another, they're not going to have him.
	What about the other two, though?
	It's not them.
	Who is it?
	It's within our own party.
	It's within our own party?
	Yes, it is.
	Look at the people who voted to keep Trump off the ballot.
	Who are they putting up?
	Who wants us to keep him off the ballot?
	Larry Fink to Reid Hoffman.
	Who are they propping up?
	So it's a game.
	And I'm in this to make sure that that doesn't happen.
	It's a trap.
	I feel like Admiral Ackbar.
	It's a trap.
	They're never gonna let him get near to the White House.
	They're gonna take him out.
	War Machine humming? It's a trap. I feel like Admiral Akbar.
	It's a trap. They're never gonna let him get near to the White House. They're gonna
	take him out. Decisions like Colorado, Jack Smith, 730 years in prison he's facing, four
	sets of indictments, 90 plus charges.
	And then, is it the other two?
	And he says, no, no, no, no.
	It's not the other two.
	It's their backers.
	Reid Hoffman, the billionaire founder of LinkedIn, and Larry Fink, the CEO billionaire of BlackRock.
	They want a candidate who will do what they want to do, continue the fur of the wars.
	Eric, what do you think of that clip?
	I think he's 100% right.
	And this is something that a few people have mentioned that, of course, obviously the Biden, the Democrats, the left are a huge danger, but we got to look at our own party and the establishment interests, the corporate donors who just want to pretend the last, uh, What is it?
	Eight years, basically, have never happened.
	That Trump never came down that escalator.
	Right.
	That we're back to the Bush-era neoconservatism.
	And why?
	Obviously, yeah, another four years of Biden or Kamala or whoever it is would be bad.
	But if someone, God forbid, we end up in an alternate timeline where Nikki Haley is the nominee and becomes the standard-bearer of the GOP again?
	All that progress is erased.
	But here's a problem with that clip, Eric.
	Leave the cameras up.
	If that's really what's happening, then that's monumental.
	And Vivek should be saying that on the campaign platform, not in some drive-by video on somebody's phone.
	If that's true, Vivek, if you've got the receipts, you need to be shouting that from the rooftop because that means the RNC Are saboteurs.
	Jeff, what's your gut?
	You've got the best gut instincts politically out there.
	What do you think of that video clip?
	I think it could be true.
	It's a hunch it was going on.
	Vivek would have no idea because the GOP does not like him either.
	So how would he know this?
	That's the thing.
	I think it's a hunch and he believes it and it's something that could be true.
	But he would not be the guy that would know that if it's going on.
	Right, so it's a supposition on his behalf that is possible, is credible, but he's hated by the establishment anyway, so how would he have the proof?
	He would be the last one to tell.
	Maybe you and Steve Bannon would be the last ones after him that they would tell if they were doing that.
	He's not the type of guy that would know about this.
	Good analysis.
	Good analysis.
	All right.
	I think we have time.
	I'm going to text Vivek in the break.
	I want to get him on the show.
	We'll ask Cash.
	We've got the amazing Cash Patel up next.
	But I want to enlist your assistance.
	Tell me what you guys think.
	They're going to take out the president.
	I mean, they want to.
	They're desperate.
	I mean, that's what Jack Smith, Shotgun, Engeron, Fannie Willis, all of them.
	That's what it's all about.
	But the idea that it's all a plot in league with the billionaires and the RNC, a trap that they're setting for the convention.
	All right, you sound off.
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	We're hot.
	or hot. Vivek. That is a good point that like Vivek hasn't said that like publicly yet.
	He's not shied away from saying controversial things on stage.
	He's gotta be the first presidential candidate ever, I think, to mention Great Replacement Theory like he did in the last debate.
	I have always thought it's weird, for the last year, all these establishment guys running in the primary knowing they have no shot.
	It's like they think something's gonna happen at some technicality.
	I mean, they tried that in 2016 with the delegates and whatnot.
	Vote your conscience.
	Hashtag vote your conscience.
	Right, right, right.
	Cash is on, by the way.
	Cash is always on!
	He's always on.
	What's up, man?
	How we doing?
	Just back from India, so... Oh, wow!
	I've traveled lots of places, Asia, Africa, Middle East.
	That is the one place I have a desire to go.
	We gotta get you over there.
	Oh man, I'd be so excited.
	My wife's family went and they loved it.
	I gotta get some time.
	Where are your people from?
	Your family?
	Gujarat, Northwest India.
	And you still have a lot of family there?
	Yeah, tons.
	Are they proud of the crazy cash phenomena?
	They love it.
	They think Modi is like the Indian Trump, so they all love it.
	You know, so they're all in.
	All right, I've got some juicy cuts from Peter Stroke.
	What would you like to talk about?
	Oh, whatever, man.
	I'm just getting back into it.
	Good.
	Alright.
	I'm going to play Chris Matthews for cash.
	Then I'll play Stroke.
	And first I'm going to do Angel Tree.
	Which Stroke?
	8 or 9?
	Probably...
	do do do do do...
	Probably nine.
	Probably nine.
	But we'll have two segments, so we might be able to do both of them.
	Two, and then cut in nine.
	Oh!
	Where's the Christie cut?
	Oh, I have it here.
	I'll just... Can you come in with that?
	Come in with that.
	That's far too good.
	That's far too good.
	Oh, goodness gracious.
	It's a big cut.
	That's 34 seconds long.
	Okay, I might... If we get to the... I think he says what I want him to say early on and then we can point it down.
	I'll indicate it.
	Okay.
	I was making a joke about Christy there.
	I wasn't saying it was a long time.
	But it is.
	It's at least 30 seconds, right?
	34, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I remember.
	Angel Tree at the top.
	Title for that mono?
	Oh, um... Have they set a trap for President Trump?
	What's the based apparel brand?
	Is that yours?
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	It's my own apparel company.
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	So you've got a good capacity to make stuff?
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	We couldn't keep up.
	So now we have our own deal factory, all the stuff in Texas, just, Now we just make it for everybody, all companies and stuff like that.
	We've got artists, we've got all pro mega people.
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	And is it, is it, um, produce on demand?
	How does it work?
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	There's whole sorts of ways to do it.
	Um, I can set your team up.
	I can set your team up.
	Look, the guy who can't answer that question is Donald Trump.
	It's a good thing.
	Because 40 of his 44 cabinet-level people have said not only that they wouldn't work for him again, they wouldn't vote for him.
	And so, who's he gonna bring in?
	Is this gonna be the Kash Patels of the world?
	I bloody hope so!
	Is it going to be the Kash Patel?
	Because Chris Christie's afraid of Kash Patel!
	I'm going to ask him why in a moment, but first things first.
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	Alright, is he there?
	Do we have him?
	That dangerous man, Cash Patel!
	Greetings of the season!
	Salutations to you!
	Happy holidays, Seb!
	I didn't know I was on Chris Christie's Christmas list, but I guess I'll have to get him a gift in return.
	Hang on, you're not telling me for real you'd never heard that?
	Nah, I never heard that.
	I played that last week.
	It was one of my favorite cards from last week.
	I was on the team!
	I'm sorry!
	Do you mean you're going to have people like Cash Patel back?
	I bloody hope so.
	The only problem is, I mean, I'm a Catholic.
	We're not allowed to do this.
	We need to clone Cash Patel.
	We could have a couple of Cash Patels over here, a couple over there, and then we'd be fine.
	All right.
	What is it?
	I mean, are these the moments, Cash, Will you see the scumbags and the rhinos for who they really are?
	I think when they start, I mean, first of all, they need to be focusing on how to craft a better policy than Donald Trump has done.
	And they can't, because there is no better policy for the border, for the wars, for the drug trade, for the criminals, for the economy, for everything.
	And so what they do is cheap rhetoric like the mainstream media, and when they're down to debasing, you know, me and Chris Christie, a guy who's running for the presidency of the United States, is talking about me.
	Hey guy, your campaign's over.
	Why don't you sit in the corner and have some chocolate milk?
	Yeah, maybe not a gallon of it, though.
	All right, we talked to the former Chief of Staff of the Defense Department, former Chief Investigator, House Intelligence Committee, Acting Deputy National Director for Intelligence.
	The list goes on and on.
	The book is Government Gangsters.
	If you haven't read it, you want to know the inside of the deep state, or what I call the in-your-face state, at governmentgangsters.com.
	One of the things I forgot to mention is you're a former, not just a defender, you're a counter-terrorism national security prosecutor for the DOJ.
	So you may have something to say with regards to this cut.
	I thought he was dead.
	I really hope he doesn't have a show after he was fired.
	But he's giving interviews.
	This is Chris Matthews on the terrorist threat to America that you know a little about.
	Cut to.
	It's very tough because people that didn't go to college have a pretty good rage on their hands.
	That's what you really want in an election is a rage.
	It can be black rage or white rage or rural rage.
	In this case, it's rural rage.
	They are so angry at the liberal establishment, the coastal elite.
	They look at people on television, they say, oh, those people on Saturday Night Live, those snarling rich kids.
	I know who they are.
	They're all trust funders.
	They don't need, they don't have to worry about us.
	And the regular guy in the country goes, there they are, snarling and making fun of us again.
	And every time we make fun of Trump, we're making fun of them.
	That's the weird, it's a weird thing.
	But in a way, it's like fighting terrorism.
	I mean, you know, we think we just put the army in, or Israel just puts the IDF in, and they're going to solve the problem.
	It never solves the problem, because you enrage people.
	So the terrorist threats in America are rural Americans who didn't go to college.
	First things first, a little sartorial clip, a tip for you, Chris.
	When you're old, okay, men like you lose muscle mass, okay?
	When you lose muscle mass, you have to buy new shirts.
	If you sit there with a shirt that's like 48 inches too big in the collar, you'll look like the Crypt Keeper, okay?
	Get a new shirt.
	Sorry, I had to say that.
	I know I've lost weight, but I got some new shirts so they fit me.
	Kash, the idea that you don't get angry because you go to college... Who are the Antifa and pro-Hamas protesters right now, Kash?
	Are they rural farmers from Tennessee and West Virginia?
	Do you know what happens when you plagiarize and get away with it and you're a liberal?
	You become president.
	You become president at the White House and you become president of one of the most prestigious universities in America.
	But you can only do that if you're a liberal.
	And gone are the days, actually, the days have never been here, nor will they ever, where I take counterterrorism advice from Chris Matthews.
	And when he tells me that domestic violent terrorism and rural incidences are the reasons we need to be on the watch out for, he is subscribing to Chris Wray's ideology That has been created by Merrick Garland for one reason, to rig presidential elections.
	And that's what they're floating over there at MSNBC.
	I mean, look, this is what you get when you're on a panel with race hustling thugs like Al Sharpton and whoever the other person was on that panel.
	All right, well, let's get serious.
	You are the man who knows you did this for years and years and years.
	You mentioned the border.
	We're going to keep you on for one more segment.
	But give us right now.
	Your assessment, the terrorist threat to America after October 7th in Israel and 8 million illegals that we know of coming into this country, how would you rate that as a counter-terrorism national security professional, Cash?
	It's an absolute disaster.
	It's a catastrophe.
	And it's all coordinated.
	Al Qaeda is on the rise in Afghanistan.
	Iran is using its multiple proxy forces in Hezbollah, Hamas to launch a new war.
	And the Houthis out of Yemen are now striking American service member installations and shooting at American ships.
	100 strikes to date so far, done by terrorists.
	And they are seeding more terrorists through the southern border of the United States of America while Joe Biden is asleep at every single wheel possible.
	And it's no longer that he's stupid.
	It's intentional.
	He could shut it down tomorrow.
	One day last week, there were 15,000 illegal border crossings.
	One day's worth is enough to have a national security incident for four entire years, and this guy took care of it in one day.
	Think of how many criminals, think of how many people are tied to foreign terrorist organizations are coming in.
	It's not a coincidence.
	They're using it as a pretext to see people into the country, and it's gonna get worse.
	Our buddy Kurt Schlichter just published yesterday his book called The Attack, which is a fictionalized scenario of October the 7th occurring here in America across the nation.
	We'll have Kurt on to discuss it next week.
	But that scenario, that's not out of the question, is it Cash?
	No, yeah, it's one of those a lot of folks are talking about it now.
	And you know, we hope it doesn't happen.
	But Seb, you know, this hope is not a national security policy.
	Hope is something that is left for the liberals when they have established a policy.
	To degrade the national security of this country and jeopardize everyday Americans across the United States.
	And that's what we're facing right now.
	Follow this man right now on Truth Social at KASH.
	That's K-A-S-H.
	The book is at governmentgangsters.com.
	We will continue the discussion with our good friend.
	There's only one problem with Kash Patel.
	There's not enough of him.
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	Me?
	No, no, I'm talking to Jeff.
	Jeff, I texted Vivek, he hasn't responded yet.
	Can you ask his team whether he can do a 2A?
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	Play both of the stroke cuts now for Cash.
	Just shortly after the Michigan Supreme Court indicated they weren't going to take this up, Donald Trump took to Truth Social and lauded their decision, talked about how they were absolutely right.
	It would be very interesting, you know, Frank pointed out how the FBI in Colorado out of the Denver office is actively working the threats to the Colorado justices.
	Let's take a look at the data coming out of Michigan.
	Are there any threats right now to those Michigan Supreme Court justices who decided not to hear the case?
	Because the fact of the matter is, this isn't an environment where everybody is prone to violence.
	The fact of the matter is, this is an environment where adherents and supporters of the former president are engaging in threats of violence, and there's a comparative absence of any sort of like behavior on the side.
	You don't see supporters of Joe Biden going out and threatening Michigan Supreme Court justices.
	Donald Trump is not constraining any of his behavior.
	His words result in violent action.
	It isn't stopping.
	He is well aware of what's going on.
	And I think whatever we see coming out of the Supreme Court, they can't unwrite the 14th Amendment.
	There is going to have to be some provision that if somebody engages in insurrection, that that does potentially disqualify them from the presidency in some way, in some manner of determining that.
	I'm going to use the first cut with him.
	I'll tee it up.
	I'm not going to do my pillow here.
	I'm going to do the cruise, so we'll need the cruise b-roll, guys.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Good.
	All right.
	I really hope there's something that hasn't passed the statute of limitations on these people, Cash.
	We need to do some justice to them.
	Oh, I know, man.
	I'm telling you.
	I know.
	It's... Oh, man.
	Something needs to be done.
	So you'll do Cruz at the top?
	Cruz.
	Cruz, okay, at the top, yep.
	I spoke to the former NSA, Cash.
	O'Brien?
	No, no, no, no, no, the other one, right?
	And he says he doesn't want that job, so if you don't want it, I'm in.
	Great.
	This is awesome.
	Yeah.
	Can we announce that?
	Talk to the boss.
	I told the boss and he said, you'd be great for that.
	But, you know, we're 11 months out.
	I had a feeling that Mike would say that after what happened to him.
	He did say this, however, and I have no idea who's competing for what.
	The only thing he'd do is he'd like to be running personnel.
	Oh, interesting.
	Well, I'm going to see the boss this weekend, I think so.
	But remember, that's what Mike told me.
	The only people that are now lobbing grenades at people in Trump world are people from Trump world.
	I don't know if you saw the latest media.
	No, what, what, what?
	Yeah, CNN.
	Three sources say Kash Patel was involved in vetting for the vice president.
	Three Trump campaigns.
	Oh, I saw that!
	Yeah, the articles, like, as if these guys know, and like, President Trump is considering Haley.
	Like, uh, no he's not.
	Where do they get this stuff?
	They just make it up!
	They just make it up!
	But it's his campaign.
	You know, it's the campaign.
	It's another problem.
	I mean, we're not going to talk about it.
	That's different.
	That's different.
	That's the campaign.
	10 seconds.
	Yeah.
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	The magic man has done it again, Mr. G. We had the idea, what was it, eight minutes ago, and he's already locked in Vivek.
	So Vivek will be joining us at the top of the hour to explain his It's a Trap.
	They're going to take out President Trump comment on the video.
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	Get it today at governmentgangsters.com.
	Cash, I don't want to ruin the holiday season.
	I know you've just come back from seeing your family, but I think you know this chap.
	He should be in prison right now, but he's got a weird take on Who's legitimized violence in America today?
	Some guy called Peter Stroke.
	Let's listen to his analysis.
	Cut eight.
	Just shortly after the Michigan Supreme Court indicated they weren't going to take this up, Donald Trump took to Truth Social and lauded their decision, talked about how they were absolutely right.
	It would be very interesting.
	You know, Frank pointed out how the FBI in Colorado out of the Denver office is actively working the threats to the Colorado justices.
	Let's take a look at the data coming out of Michigan.
	Are there any threats right now to those Michigan Supreme Court justices who decided not to hear the case?
	Because the fact of the matter is, this isn't an environment where everybody is prone to violence.
	The fact of the matter is, this is an environment where adherents and supporters of the former president are engaging in threats of violence, and there's a comparative absence of any sort of like behavior on the side.
	You don't see supporters of Joe Biden going out and threatening Michigan Supreme Court justices.
	That's so weird because there's about 123 years history of left-wing violence from Leon Chonglos, of course, who assassinated William Kinley, up to Nicholas Ruska, who was considering the assassination of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, to William Hodgkinson, who tried to kill Steve Scalise.
	Do these people, I mean, is this person just an idiot, or just, does everything that comes out of his mouth, is it all lies, Cash?
	Well, yeah, he's trained in that.
	And let's not forget the bounty that some left-wing lunatic put on me or the death threats that have been leveled at me over the years.
	But the FBI doesn't take those seriously.
	So, obviously, those are just made up by lunatic Trump right-wing loyalists.
	I mean, remember... Hang on, hang on.
	I've got to tell this story.
	I think I could disclose this.
	My whole family got death threats after my wife did an interview for the Wall Street Journal about the Syrian refugee crisis, or a cause in the middle of the night, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
	Back, way back when the FBI wasn't so corrupt, the head of the WFO was a buddy of mine, a former student, he investigated it, and we thought it would be connected to jihadis or whatever.
	Do you know who it was, Cash, at the end of the day?
	Oh man.
	It was Democrats using their Obama phones who had read the anonymous, you know, the anonymous left-wing radical website who doxxed my family.
	It was anonymous that wanted us killed.
	It doesn't happen, Seb, not on the left wing.
	Of course, just listen to Strzok.
	Remember, let's remind people who this guy is.
	This guy was the guy who went overseas and bought fake intel paid for by a political opponent and lied to a federal court to unlawfully surveil and rig a presidential election.
	And this guy's protege is on his way to federal prison as the head counterintelligence official at the FBI.
	This guy is teaching us about morality and crime and violence.
	This is another left-wing conspiracy disinformation campaign.
	They are ginning it up.
	There are actually no credible threats to any of the Colorado justices.
	None whatsoever.
	But that won't stop them from obtaining their headline because someone leaked false information to say that there was one and the FBI is looking into it.
	They are not any credible threats there.
	But they want the headline, CNN and MSNBC will give it to them.
	And people like Peter Strzok, who are not stupid, they're just evil and vindictive because the, well, me, exposed his entire charade and illegal activity and cost him his precious career.
	And now he goes on to CNN rewarded with a contract to lie to the world.
	No credible threats to those judges.
	But yeah, there's Rice in being mailed to President Trump from Canada.
	There's Nicholas Ruska coming from California to kill Brett Kavanaugh.
	There's James Hodgkinson that tried to kill all the Republicans on those baseball fields,
	who by the way was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer.
	But these are not the droids you're looking for.
	Merry Christmas, greetings of the season, happy new year, get this man's book if you want to know the truth, governmentgangsters.com.
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	He's gone.
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	Okay.
	Title for cash.
	Um...
	Mm-mm-mm-mm.
	Mmm.
	Mmm.
	What was the first thing?
	Oh yeah.
	The terrorist threat isn't coming from rural Trump supporters.
	Oh, shall we record one of these?
	Alex?
	Yes, sir.
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	about this.
	Let's play this clip that has got Nikki Haley in big trouble in the last 24 hours.
	She was asked a very simple question at a campaign event.
	Maybe not the right answer.
	Cut five.
	What was the cause of the United States Civil War?
	Well, don't come with an easy question, Ray.
	I mean, I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run.
	The freedoms and what people could and couldn't do.
	What do you think the cause of the Civil War was?
	I'm sorry?
	I'm not running for president.
	I want to listen to yours on the cause of the Civil War.
	I mean, I think it always comes down to the role of government.
	And what the rights of the people are.
	That's enough.
	I mean, seriously, you don't have to have purity tests, but doesn't every civil war come down to what the government is doing?
	What answer were they looking for?
	Yeah.
	And you had to apologize today and say, yes, it's about slavery.
	What possessed her?
	It's just... Jeff, do you understand what Nikki Haley did there?
	Why she couldn't give the answer you knew the trap question was waiting for?
	Because she hasn't practiced that one, like every other thing, where she just wants to get out her tan lines, words that pull well, all that type of stuff.
	Don't mess up, don't make mistakes, anything stupid.
	It's not in the talking points, therefore she doesn't know what to say.
	Exactly.
	I trust that, that's good.
	Let's stay on the topic.
	Line one, Phil in Philly!
	Hey, Dr. G, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you and your family.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I was surprised nobody picked it up or was talking about it.
	She was the governor of South Carolina, which was the state of Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861.
	It fired on the North and started the Civil War.
	They were a signatory to the Confederate Constitution of the United States, which in that document, still online, you can look it up, mentions slavery a dozen times.
	They felt they weren't being invaded, and they started this civil war.
	And you know what's so crazy about this whole thing, Dr. G?
	They were a ballist, feckless Republican Party back then, and they're doing the same thing right now, watching this country go communist.
	with these people, with this Confederate Democratic Party.
	It's the same thing happening over and over again.
	And we got a bunch of feckless Republicans in that House and in that Senate doing nothing.
	You're absolutely right, Phil, and Merry Christmas to you and greetings of the New Year.
	Look, you don't have to give a three-hour answer on states' rights and economic imbalance and blah blah blah blah.
	You know that you have to say the word slavery at some point, and she did it, and today she had to apologize for it, but I think Jeff's right.
	It wasn't on the talking points, so she didn't know what to say.
	Talking of that era in history, let's go to line two, Wendy in Louisville, Kentucky.
	Yes, this is Wendy, and I'm calling for some movies, that you can suggest some movies.
	Well, yeah, I always love movie suggestions.
	What would you like to suggest?
	Okay, charades.
	You mean the Hitchcock movie?
	Well, yeah, charades, yeah.
	Yeah, we'll have to do at least one Hitchcock.
	I'm writing it down.
	Okay, carry on.
	North by Northwest.
	Yes!
	Okay, that's a better one.
	North by Northwest.
	One more?
	Gone with the Wind.
	You know what?
	I don't have the patience for that, and I think it's a highly overrated movie, but North by Northwest?
	I'm not into like three and a half hour movies, but yes, we are definitely going to do North by Northwest.
	I'm putting it on the list right now, Wendy.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	Let's go to Rick, line three, Phoenix.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Great show.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
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	Thank you kindly.
	Merry Christmas.
	Thank you.
	And also to you.
	I'm calling about your discussion about the terrorists coming into America.
	And I wanted to ask you, there was a movie made, this is not a candidate for your You know, I wasn't until our engineer told me about it about two weeks ago, right, Alex?
	This is the one with, you know, real SEAL team members in the movie.
	Yes, sir.
	I wasn't until our engineer told me about it about two weeks ago, right Alex?
	This is the one with real SEAL team members in the movie.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	And did you like it, Rick?
	I thought it was very, very good.
	Really patriotic, very strong message.
	Also a little scary because it You know you look at that and what they did and the uh and the courage that was there and then the lack of courage in this current administration and military and all of that.
	All right I said this to Alex uh last time I think it went after Be serious this time.
	I'm going to watch it this weekend.
	And don't forget, our movie review tomorrow is the Ben Crosby classic, A White Christmas with Danny Kaye.
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	Is it from Scooter McDooder?
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	Scooter McDooder for $10 says, I don't usually care for identity politics, but I'd really appreciate it if Trump appointed an actual woman to assistant secretary for health.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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	Yeah, versus AI Reid here.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, then, okay, then you can't do hurt.
	Alright, just come in with the Reid, then we'll go to Antoinette.
	Okay.
	Then to Antoinette.
	Scooter McDooter.
	It is Thursday, that's right.
	It is Thursday.
	Goodness, does not feel like it for me.
	Play me the Hurt Cut 6.
	So I blocked the line zone.
	The primary difference between, of course, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, Donald Trump attacks
	the party leaders, even Republican party leaders, oftentimes.
	He attacks Washington.
	He attacks the bureaucracy.
	But he never attacks the voters on the other side.
	Whereas you have Joe Biden openly, and a lot of Democrats openly, attacking voters on the
	other side, which, you know, it's not that people get their feelings hurt.
	It's just a really stupid way to do politics.
	It's not a good way to win people over.
	Cut her face.
	It's a... it's a... yeah, it's a good thing.
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	Is it Thursday?
	I do believe it's Thursday!
	Therefore, we must go to California.
	Line 4.
	Merry Christmas, Antoinette, and Happy New Year!
	Happy New Year, Dr. G!
	Boy, I give extra blessings to all you guys for really being here today!
	This is not a mirage.
	This is not a recording, Antoinette.
	You are not an AI bot, and you are not a recording either.
	Thank God.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Well, listen, Dr. G, first off, yesterday you had Barbara George for Moms for America.
	I know Barbara.
	She's doing a great job.
	And congratulations.
	You had her on.
	That was fabulous.
	I feel so bad because that woman, I see her everywhere fighting the good fight.
	Her husband always brings me a nice tobacco product and I just, you know, I needed to get her on.
	I didn't want to bug her during Christmas but I thought, no, I'm gonna have her on.
	She is, she's like you, she's a warrior princess.
	Oh, that's so sweet.
	But thank you for having her on.
	And Dr. G, your special presence for all you guys from us, from I Am For The Voiceless.
	They're going to be coming in January.
	There's been a few little hiccups on our side.
	But just to give you really something wonderful, you know, we've had a couple guys come and join us now this morning.
	We were at the Tustin Orange Planned Parenthood.
	We weren't recording.
	We were actually there this morning.
	And this one guy from a Catholic church, and so he's going to be joining us.
	On Thursday mornings, which was exciting, which was very sweet.
	And it's nice to see more men are joining us at our different Planned Parenthoods, which is great.
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	Churches, please elevate the Word of God.
	Happy New Year, and please, voter registration, support the businesses that are Christians, and in your community, and blessings to all five of you!
	Happy New Year!
	Thank you.
	Happy New Year to you.
	Can't wait to see what she's sending us.
	I'm super excited.
	She's a bit of a brain, a mind reader as well, because I've just finished writing an article about what it means to be a Christian in the days Of darkness we are living through.
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	On social media, you said that they're not going to, they're going to take Biden out.
	Is that going to be his plan?
	It's a longer story.
	It takes a dark turn, but I think it's, I know, I mean, I just have a good sense of what's going to happen here.
	Okay.
	They're leading into trap.
	They're not going to let Trump get anywhere near the White House.
	They're not going to let him.
	So the goal is, you know, have him be the nominee.
	And by hell or high water, one way or other, they're not going to have him.
	What about the other two?
	It's not them.
	It's within our own party.
	It's within our own party?
	Yes it is. Look at the people who voted to keep Sump off the ballot.
	Who are they putting up?
	Who wants us to keep him off the ballot?
	Larry Fink to Reid Hoffman. Who are they propping up?
	So it's a game.
	And I'm in this to make sure that that doesn't happen.
	They want to be two horse race to eliminate him.
	Put up actually the Trojan horse within the Republican party.
	That keeps the war machine humming.
	It's a trap.
	A Trojan horse.
	A video clip from his own social media account that's causing quite a stir.
	He said it's a longer story.
	Well, let's ask him.
	We are delighted from the campaign trail to be joined by Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Vivek, greetings of the season.
	Happy New Year to you.
	How's the campaigning going?
	It's going well, Sebastian.
	I mean, I'm meeting patriots who love this country, which is the best part of this whole experience.
	The eight events yesterday, we have ten today.
	It'll be groups of people who are actually speaking honestly instead of the culture of fear that has otherwise swept this country.
	And so I respect that.
	Where do we find you today?
	I'm in Iowa.
	I'm in western Iowa.
	Yesterday I was in a different part of rural Iowa in the northwest.
	Today we're more in the southern western part.
	Of the state.
	I've actually been, I'm doing a total of 330 plus events.
	Wow.
	I think it's more than all the other candidates combined, but it's my favorite part of this is everything is so artificial when it's done through television, when it's done through social media.
	But when you're in a room with 50, 60, a hundred people and you give people actually the ability and not even the giant events, but the, but the midsize ones, the smaller ones, you really give people a chance and permission to speak freely.
	Man, I think the people in this country are rooting for saving this country.
	They don't know how to do it.
	I think they're looking for somebody to lead them.
	That's why I'm in this.
	And I think it's going to take, just like Trump brought an outsider mentality.
	That's what I'm bringing now, the outsider.
	People are hungry for somebody who isn't bought and paid for and a pawn of the political system.
	And so, yeah, that gives me my sense of purpose.
	And I think we're going to succeed in saving this country.
	All right, well, so when you stand up to the podium or get up on the platform, you do cause a stir in the debates.
	You asked Rona McDaniel to come up and justify her seven years of losing seven elections row after row.
	And then you say things like, you know, January 6th was clearly a setup.
	So nobody else is saying what you're saying.
	Let's unpack that little clip that you posted.
	You said it's a trap.
	You mentioned Reid Hoffman and Larry Fink.
	Tell us what What proof you have of that and what the nature of that trap really is?
	Look, I want... I mean, this is a long story that goes back a long time, but the old expression goes, Sebastian, right?
	Fool me once, shame on you.
	Fool me twice, shame on me.
	Right.
	Don't be fooled this time.
	We cannot walk into their trap.
	Last time, what was it?
	It was a man-made pandemic.
	And big tech, and worse, that tilted the scales up and rigged an election in an effort to keep one man out of office.
	Do you think they're going to let this man get anywhere near that White House again?
	What do you think that system is going to do?
	And so I want people to think about this.
	Fast forward 18 months from now, and let's say that something happens, and I believe that this is exactly what the system is plotting, the permanent state, the super-packed puppet masters, the establishment in both parties.
	To keep this man away from the White House.
	Will we say, oh, that was a shock?
	We didn't see that one coming.
	Or are we going to say, what the hell were we doing and we need to wake up to reality?
	And how were we duped yet again?
	I think they're selling us the rope today that they will use to hang us tomorrow.
	And so that's my increasingly firm conviction, Sebastian, is that these people will stop at nothing to keep him away.
	And I'm doing everything I can to stop that.
	You know, Colorado, you saw that disastrous ruling from their state Supreme Court.
	Within minutes of my hearing about it, I didn't have to think twice.
	I said that I would remove my own name from the Colorado GOP ballot if Trump's name was removed as well.
	And you know what?
	Here's the sad part of this.
	If every other Republican did the same thing, then that's exactly how we prevent this act of election interference in our own party.
	The other ones don't.
	Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley said they want to collect their delegates.
	And so then it kind of opens your eyes a little bit and see what's actually going on.
	Well, you look at where that money's going.
	Who is the establishment actually propping up?
	It's not Joe Biden, actually.
	And it's interesting because, you know, I was saying for a long time, I thought that they were going to move Joe Biden to one side.
	Why are you hearing about the documents case only now from years ago when he was a senator, for God's sake?
	Why are you hearing about the Hunter Biden issues from seven, eight years ago now?
	I thought they looked like the establishment's really propping up by it, and it's almost like they're getting ready to throw him under the bus, too.
	And so I assumed that it was going to be Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, but I want ... I'll be saying more about this as this unfolds, but I want people to open their eyes and see it for themselves.
	Follow the actual money.
	Follow the actual breadcrumbs they've dropped.
	In retrospect, this will be obvious.
	But look right now at who that establishment's propping up.
	You know, the Democratic brand's a little tarnished, Sebastian.
	And for those who think this is about Republicans versus Democrats, you might be missing the plot.
	Let me put what you're saying in some more explicit terms.
	We're talking to Vivek Ramaswamy, candidate for the presidency.
	The website is vivek2024.com, that's V-I-V-E-K, vivek2024.com and at vivekramaswamy on social media.
	The breaking news, that's very much to the point here.
	The loony leftist Secretary of State for Colorado, Jenna Griswold, has decreed that President
	Trump's name cannot be removed from the GOP ballot.
	So we've made enough noise, you've made enough noise, and clearly they've caved in Colorado.
	It won't stop them.
	I agree, they're trying to stop President Trump at all costs.
	But let's be more explicit.
	So what you're saying is the billionaires, you know, the BlackRock, Larry Finks, the
	LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman's of the world, they're worried that the incumbent simply can't win.
	They can't afford to have the outsider President Trump be reelected.
	Therefore they're putting their backing behind fake conservatives like the governor of Florida,
	Ron DeSantis, and like the neocon Nikki Haley.
	That's what you're saying.
	And look exactly at which one they're really propping up right now.
	I mean, I think that the fundamental third rail in American politics is the foreign policy.
	Keep the war machine humming, keep the military-industrial complex continuing to feed the beast that needs to be fed.
	That's really what they care about.
	And so you look at who they're propping up, and it is an interesting and ugly story.
	And so that's exactly what's happening in plain sight.
	This is not about Republicans and Democrats.
	It is about a permanent state that is far deeper than that.
	A permanent establishment with cronies in the private sector, the Larry Finks to the Reid Hoffmans of the world.
	Follow that money, put those pieces together, and it's going to become even more evident in the next few months that this system is not going to allow Donald Trump to get close to office, but they want to deflect it.
	And it's not really Biden they're propping up.
	For the longest time, I thought it was going to be Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom, but it's actually far more insidious than that.
	And so, Sebastian, I think that one of the things we've learned in the last several years is you can't swallow the narrative as it's served up to you, right?
	There's the people who think we're going to have a free and fair election between Trump and Biden in a general election.
	That's lunacy.
	There's the people who understand that that election, if it were to transpire, wouldn't be fair and the scales would be tipped.
	But I think it's actually far deeper and more insidious than that.
	That's the wrong, false target altogether.
	It's a feigned retreat in that direction.
	Don't fall for their trick.
	That's what I will say right now.
	Well, I appreciate it.
	You haven't backed it up with empirical data, but the scenario is plausible.
	And you're absolutely right that they will stop at nothing to stop the president.
	You know where I stand.
	I was his deputy.
	God willing, he will succeed.
	But let me ask you what I asked you back in January, because you're a smart guy.
	I like the cut of your jib.
	Before you announced, we had you on to discuss your multiple books.
	If they can't stop President Trump, if he gets re-elected, would you be willing to work in his cabinet?
	Look, I'll say this.
	Each of us has to drive change in a way that maximizes impact on our country.
	I'm in this for the country.
	If he's the nominee, he will have my full support.
	Full on out.
	Would you work with him?
	Would you work with him, if you want?
	Look, I'm not a plan B person for my life, Sebastian.
	I didn't get to where I am by being a plan B person.
	It's pretty cool to work in an administration.
	It's pretty cool to be in a cabinet.
	What I'll tell you is that I'm all in for the country, and I'm in this for the United States of America, okay?
	This country has allowed me to live an American dream beyond what my parents imagined when they came to this country.
	You know what that's like being a legal immigrant and actually dreaming for your kids.
	A life that they could have never imagined right now, so we're in a phase of our life now where it's about giving back to this country and saving it for the next generation.
	Now, I'll say this.
	It's about America First, though, and we gotta acknowledge this.
	It's the namesake of the network and the show here.
	America First is bigger than one man.
	This is bigger than Trump.
	It's bigger than me.
	It's bigger than you.
	We're out of time.
	I want to thank you for making time last minute.
	You are clearly riding the America First message.
	God bless you.
	The website is vivek2024.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	So gentlemen, let's start with Alex.
	Alex, don't hide in the corner.
	What do you think?
	I mean... I'm under... Who's funding Vivek, is what I want to know.
	Him.
	Self-funding.
	Only himself?
	No, he's got small donors, but he's putting a lot of his money into his campaign.
	He's worth a couple billion.
	Yeah.
	I mean... Suspicious minds.
	I'm very suspicious.
	Of everyone.
	Trust no one.
	Trust no one.
	Not even yourself.
	I don't know.
	I'll pass the baton.
	Eric, you go ahead.
	Eric?
	I think what actually hit me the most in that interview is towards the end, he still won't say if he'll serve in the administration.
	He should.
	If he said that, his support would go up, I think.
	I think it would.
	If he wants to be smart, if he wants to look real MAGA, he doesn't have to say it's more than one man.
	He just says, yeah, for the sake of the nation.
	Guy, what did you think of that interview?
	Oh, sorry, sir.
	Yes, I totally agree with you.
	Eric, about the interview, you know, the rest of the comments I have to think twice before I make any comments.
	Jeff, what did you think of that?
	He's not got his headset on.
	He hates that headset.
	We've got to get a comfortable headset for Jeff.
	That's what we've got to do.
	It's because I have to get on the phone, too.
	Oh, that's right.
	But it's only on one ear, dude.
	That's the whole point.
	How do you hold a phone?
	And then I'm going to have to hear you in this ear and then a caller in the other ear?
	That doesn't work.
	What do you think it's like when I'm talking to people, interviewing them, and I get the relief factor now or whatever, you know?
	It's the same kind of thing.
	But it's quick in and out.
	It's quick in and out.
	What did you think of that?
	Um, I think he believes everything he says, and I don't think that he's some... People think he's a fraud and all that stuff.
	I don't believe it at all.
	You couldn't do it this much.
	The talk is good.
	Interesting.
	Good, good.
	All right, Ms.
	Winters.
	Oh, she's got her sexy new product store, Ms.
	Information.
	Dude, when you do the fake posts where you've got the blank shirt and you put the lettering, you've got to fix the font, okay?
	You've got to make it look a little bit more... What do you mean?
	I'll send you some photographs.
	The font is going to be in your face.
	It's going to be... Alright?
	But it's supposed to be subtle.
	Look, I know your clothing line is very in your face.
	Do you support President Trump or not?
	Of course.
	Is he subtle?
	The difference is that the clothing brand isn't just for people who are explicitly political.
	It's for people who are also into the health and the counter... Oh, stop it.
	What's the website for the brand?
	Thank you, I appreciate you doing this.
	She's so right dot co, not dot com.
	I have to sue for that.
	She's so right dot co.
	Because she doesn't believe in US.
	She didn't put dot US.
	She's a capitalist.
	I think dot co has a better ring to it.
	Better than America?
	There's nothing better than America except God.
	How dare you?
	We have that other C-Span cut too.
	The one where she mentions Biden.
	All right, I'll use both of them.
	How long is the other cut?
	It's like 10 or 12 seconds.
	14 seconds.
	Good, good, good.
	All right.
	What did I miss there?
	I missed the podcast.
	10 seconds.
	Podcast read On the side of the US Congress
	Constitution, America first.
	Hey, Jeff, do me a favor.
	We've got back-to-back guests, but Todd in Atlanta is a really interesting question.
	Will you get his number, and we'll call him back at the end of this hour, because that's a really interesting hypothesis.
	So, I don't want to keep Todd waiting.
	Let's call him back.
	Although, you're not charged by length of call anymore, are you, in America?
	Do you remember the days of 1-800s?
	You know, whatever.
	But let's call Todd back.
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	All right, I guess being co-host of something called The War Room wasn't enough.
	Now she's creating some merchandising empire with close-up photographs of her torso, sporting very fun phrases like misinformation.
	We'll talk about that later, but she posted a very important video that I'd like to share with all of you.
	Let's welcome her to the show.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Natalie Winters.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I'm excited to get into lawfare, but also fashion.
	This is a fun hit for me.
	All right, we'll get into She'sSoRight.co in a moment.
	We're going to keep you for a couple of segments.
	But first, did you have fun at Charlie Kirk's AmFest?
	First time in years I didn't attend.
	How was it?
	Was it fun?
	Were people depressed?
	Were they energized?
	Well, I was going to say, you weren't there, so it wasn't as fun as it could have been.
	Of course not!
	I feel like you're always popping up, right?
	You're always popping up at all these events.
	But the event, Turning Point, does such a wonderful job of putting on these events.
	I mean, it was such a blessing to meet so many members of the War Room Posse.
	And my number one takeaway from that event, you know, the fire on stage, the antics, all of those optics aside, Our audiences, right, the people who watch this show, the people who watch War Room, are so well informed.
	I mean, they're miles ahead of me when it comes to knowing their stances on the issues.
	And it's really empowering and just amazing.
	I'm not usually someone who uses, you know, weird adjectives like this, but it really was so moving to see how engaged the audiences, the activist audiences that we have are in the I got a lot of stories and angles to pursue, so it was
	really, really was a moving experience.
	So you're not a social movement theorist or a psychologist, but you have a reputation for doing
	unique research, especially on Wuhan and China. So you probably have a theory on it.
	That's an interesting observation.
	What do you think that's down to?
	Because I've heard this many, many times before, that our audience, your audience, Steve's audience, it's just a different caliber of patriot.
	Do you think that's a function of, you know, self-selection?
	Because The things we talk about, the deep dives.
	Steve and I love geopolitics.
	You love geopolitics.
	Or do you think it's a reflection of the movement and its evolution?
	Or another scenario?
	What do you think that quality is down to?
	I'm just curious before we get down to business.
	I think as someone who was born and raised in Los Angeles, obviously I went to, you know, far left academic institutions.
	I think the analogy of, you know, that conservative college student who every day, anytime they share one of their viewpoints, they're basically, their backs are against the wall, right?
	People are always saying, oh, you're wrong.
	Oh, you're racist.
	So you really have to know what you believe, what you stand for, the facts, the evidence,
	not just ad hominem or emotional rationale as to why you believe what you believe.
	So I think the people who are watching our shows are people who I think are innately drawn
	to really being able to defend their beliefs with a level of articulation and detail and granularity
	that I think most people who are okay with just sort of accepting the default setting
	the mainstream narrative are, because by nature I just don't think
	they're that curious, but I also think too.
	the feedback loop, it's sort of a self-reinforcing cycle, I think, when you're exposed to whether
	it's a coordinated aspect of lawfare or how globalism has worked, not just to the benefit
	of the Chinese Communist Party, but our American ruling class here, right, the interconnections
	there.
	And that's what my reporting has always really focused on, the convenient coincidences, right,
	the same people who seem to benefit from these America last policies.
	I think the more you're exposed to, the more the dopamine hits kind of resurge.
	And I think you just keep going further and further down the rabbit hole.
	Yeah, she just was rather verbose and polite in saying that conservatives, our listeners, have brains, the other people don't.
	Okay, let's get to this thing you sent me that I used immediately on Newsmax because it was such an amazing find.
	I want us to play the second cut first, please, guys.
	This is a lady called Melanie Sloan, on C-SPAN a few years ago, who's actually the founder of something called Citizens for Ethics, the organization behind the move Consider myself much less political now than I used to be.
	I was once obviously a Democrat.
	I worked for three different Democrats on the Hill.
	I worked for Senator Biden before I worked for Chuck Schumer when he was on the Hill and then John Conyers.
	So the woman behind the move to remove President Trump from the ballots worked for Joe Biden.
	How did you know that?
	Where did you find that, Natalie?
	Because that kind of explains everything.
	Well, this probably tells you what kind of social life I have, but I was going through all of the people affiliated with CREW when I saw that Colorado ballot removal coming out.
	I was looking at their consultancies, their media appearances, everything that they do.
	And this individual, Melanie Sloan, was someone who stood out to me because she's clearly a partisan hack.
	Obviously, all these people are, but with sort of the shady, dark money, left-wing,
	501c3 kind of grift, they're allowed to launder what are clearly political agendas and activities
	through the euphemism of, oh, it's nonpartisan.
	Oh, it's not specifically designed to attack any one political candidate.
	I said I had two cuts to use.
	to sort of undermine that narrative is to show you in her own words
	that Melanie Sloan admits that she's for Joe Biden.
	She was the nominations council back when he was serving in the Senate.
	But I think the bigger takeaway from that clip, while it's great to have a gotcha moment in this interview,
	she also admits to meeting George Soros and taking tons of money from him
	and admitting that what they do in Colorado.
	Don't spoil my radio show.
	I said I had two cuts to use.
	Honestly.
	Okay.
	You're like stealing my thunder.
	There's another cut, too.
	There's three cuts, because she also says what they do in Colorado, they want to make it a model for the rest of the United States.
	There's actually a book about that, about how the Democrats stole Colorado.
	We're talking to Natalie Winters, co-host of The War Room with Stephen Bannon.
	Follow her at Natalie G. Winters on social media.
	Her new Merchandise Empire is She's So Right dot co.
	We'll discuss that momentarily.
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	Idea to go into merch, Ms.
	You Idea to go into merch ms. Information well two things are
	Obviously, you know, I hate China and everyone would always DM me, where is your dress from?
	Where is your shirt from?
	And then also the other DM, I'd be like, how do we actually take down China?
	You know, how do we take down the CCP?
	And I felt bad because whenever I was answering the first question, it was sort of at odds with the second question, right?
	Because most of the stuff that you buy nowadays is made in China.
	And I think a lot of times conservative apparel, not even conservative, just Did you find U.S.
	is more for free-thinking women, can be a little too, not cringe, but just a little
	forceful.
	So I wanted to do something a little more subtle and wearable that you can get away
	with.
	It's sort of esoteric humor, I would say.
	So I love the Y2K, like 90s baby tea aesthetic, if you're familiar with that.
	So I sort of ripped that off, but put on some of our fun sayings.
	And did you find U.S. manufacturers?
	Yeah.
	I'm actually going to the factory after your show.
	I'm back in L.A.
	I know you know I'm always bouncing around, but the factories that I've been working with out here, they're amazing.
	It's so interesting to learn, like, they're really committed to bringing manufacturing jobs back here sustainably, and I don't use that term in the environmental sense, but, like, meaningful wages.
	The people get at least $16 an hour paid overtime.
	Like, there's subsidized work credits.
	They get time off.
	Um, so it's, it's not just, you know, a job or something.
	It's like, it's really cool to just see this.
	I've never had any experience with this.
	Um, but I've been in downtown LA a lot, which is where the factories are just talking to people and getting the chance to like meet actual American workers, which I know sounds weird, but I've spent so much of my career talking about it, but I've never really like seen behind the scenes.
	So.
	And I get bored really easily, and then I ruminate about stuff.
	So I was like, I need a new... I need something new to do.
	A new hobby.
	A new hobby.
	Natalie Winters gets bored easily.
	Seriously.
	Who would have thought that?
	Who would have thought that?
	Never would have guessed.
	It's so bad.
	No, it's really bad.
	My parents are like, even if you lose money on this, it's probably in the long run saving money because you have something to do now instead of like...
	Shop!
	I want to talk about Melanie, the second cut.
	What else is important right now?
	What are you working on?
	Right now, I have some interesting connections with Ralph Baric, like Wuhan stuff.
	He was getting money from Pfizer and never disclosed it.
	Okay.
	And he's doing the same manipulations with other strains of coronaviruses.
	So if you want to get into all that lovely stuff.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Standby 60 seconds.
	I need to do pod and merch that I didn't.
	Pod and merch.
	But I'll do my pillow first.
	Pillow first.
	Real quick title for Vivek.
	They'll stop at nothing to stop Trump.
	Mm-hmm.
	Or should we be more explicit?
	Biden's backers are backing Haley.
	Oh, I like that.
	Biden's backers are now backing Nikki Haley.
	We have relief factor sleep here.
	Yes, got it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
	12 seconds.
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	Somebody who's getting into the business of killing Chinese garbage is our guest Natalie Winters.
	We'll get back to the uh topic du jour of uh what happened in Colorado but you're in you're in the fashion trend you've always been a fashion plate yourself I mean you turn sideways and you can't see you you're so you know you're like a model yourself but now you've got this website she's so right dot co and it's It's kind of like covert.
	It's kind of like subtle, snarky, but conservative.
	Let's show a photograph of a torso you posted recently.
	It's got to be the tennis skirt.
	It's mandatory, of course.
	And then it just says, misinformation.
	I like what you did.
	I saw what you did there.
	And I get it.
	So tell us why you joined the fashion industry, Natalie.
	Well, I just hated that I didn't have the chance to be stylish and wear clothes that weren't.
	Super explicitly offensive to people who didn't necessarily share my beliefs.
	Believe me, I'm all down to offend people.
	But if I'm going for a walk, if I'm going to a Pilates class, I'm not always trying to make enemies.
	So I love sort of that 90s Y2K aesthetic that's certainly coming back now.
	But I wanted to sort of, I guess it's cultural appropriation in a way, but take it and put these fun slogans that I think are a little esoteric in the sense that if you get it, you get it, but if you don't, It's not, you know, it's so misinformation is one of them.
	I have low social credit score, a little bit conspiratorial.
	But daddy, I miss his mean tweets.
	So a whole spread of fun stuff.
	But to me, all made in America, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and it's not even, you know, part of it is not buying products that are made in China and of course all the countries that are along the Belt and Road Initiative too, but I also just felt bad ethically when people are asking, you know, oh, where's that dress from?
	Oh, where's that shirt from that you're wearing?
	You know, sending them to buy products that were not just supporting this globalist economic model that you and I are adamantly opposed to, but, you know, when you support Chinese companies, it's not just that you're propping up the Chinese Communist Party, I mean, You're supporting a country, a regime that has, you know,
	Article 7 of their national intelligence law stipulates that any company that is doing
	business in China can be requisitioned at any moment to help fulfill the ends of the state,
	whether that's pushing an agenda, pushing a political candidate, pushing, stealing your data,
	you name it.
	And I just think there's so many things that can go wrong when you buy products from China,
	from the Chinese Communist Party. You know, we don't need them. And there really is a
	resurgent movement. And that honestly was, I think, maybe the most empowering thing that I learned
	from this whole experience, that there's a smattering, a host of companies.
	Here in the United States, specifically in the apparel and garment industry, that are really committed to making manufacturing jobs great again, for lack of a better term, but making them have, you know, living wages, actual companies that aren't just, you know, I just think the refrain is always that, you know, oh, Americans don't want to do certain jobs.
	They don't want to work in manufacturing.
	And the companies that I've been blessed to partner with really are committed to making these jobs livable and sustainable.
	And like I said, it's not even about me.
	It's these companies, what they're doing.
	I'm honored to be able to support them and help them out.
	But I really think it should be a bright spot for people to see that there is, like I said,
	sort of a resurgent movement here in the United States, I think, to bring manufacturing back.
	I think we learned that from COVID, the lessons about supply chains.
	But also too, that I think products that are made in the USA,
	like that's the coolest lifestyle brand right there.
	Why do you wanna give your money to companies and countries that hate you think you belong in gulags and
	are communists to their core.
	So if you don't want to piss everybody off by what you wear like I do, if you want to be a little bit more subtle, you go to, and if you're a female, real female, you go to She'sSoRight.co, only made in America.
	She'sSoRight.co.
	We're out of time.
	I want to, I want to play this other cut in the break for our Rumble viewers.
	Would you just stay on for two more minutes, please, Natalie, in the break?
	Of course.
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	Let's play the second cut, which is the one they actually used for me on Newsmax.
	I didn't know this.
	She also said this as well.
	The founder for Citizens for Ethics, Melanie Sloan, said something else about people she'd been associated with before trying to get President Trump off the Colorado ballot.
	Play cut.
	Who are some of the biggest donors you have, and is there a restriction on how much money they can give you?
	We don't have any restriction, but I would say our biggest donors are, for example, the Open Society Institute is a very big donor.
	And whose organization is that?
	Well, it's a foundation, but it's well known to be, George Soros is the one who funds it.
	I love Brian Lamb saying, uh, open society.
	Uh, who's behind that?
	And she goes, uh, uh, uh, George Soros.
	Um, no surprise there, right, Natalie?
	I know.
	I love it.
	Her gesticulations and even just the way she says it, she's so hesitant to bring up his name because frankly, that's the moment that the mask drops.
	You know what I mean?
	You see this organization that's very euphemistically named.
	What is it?
	The, you know, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, D.C.
	That's not it.
	They're a clearly left-wing, far-left, progressive organization that is committed to stopping candidates like President Trump, to stopping Republicans, to stopping the MAGA movement.
	And frankly, the other important thing about her is that back in 2014, when it first hit the press that Hunter Biden was working for Burisma, She was the individual that was quoted in AP, Reuters, all the mainstream media outlets, saying that there was no conflict of interest with his appointment to that board.
	So it speaks to her responsibility and ethics.
	But it just shows you, from time immemorial, from the founding of this group all the way back in 2003, they've never actually been about ethics.
	They've been about advancing a political agenda, and that is propping up people like Joe Biden.
	And of course, George Soros is always there.
	God bless you.
	Merry Christmas.
	Nightly winters.
	Everybody check out sheisksoright.co.
	God bless.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Is Mr. Dunlap up?
	I'm working on the Skype video feed now.
	30 seconds.
	Is that good?
	Do we have a cut?
	The Brazilian.
	Yeah, this cut he posted the Brazilian army.
	Oh, good, good, good.
	All right.
	All right.
	Are you going to see me in a good way?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, good.
	I'm going to tee up the cut first, then we'll go to him.
	Is it Kagan?
	Is that how I pronounce it?
	Yes, sir.
	It is Kagan.
	Okay.
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	Right, I was talking to you in the last segment about, you know me, I'm a night owl, I'm a social media addict.
	Sometimes you come across what is termed content providers who are Different.
	Here's one of them.
	Here's a little clip.
	They are gonna get some shin splints from that.
	Good lord.
	My dude right here is trying as hard as he can to blow his kneecaps out.
	But in all seriousness, what is this CFC thing?
	Is that just like the unit name?
	Obviously these guys are Brazilian.
	We've seen a lot of Brazilian guys doing jungle training.
	They do a lot of training that's similar to Marines a lot of the time.
	Also bro, check out the size of that freaking knife that dude's got hanging from his little tactical belt.
	That thing's massive!
	That thing's as long as his femur!
	That's not a knife.
	This is a knife.
	Yeah, straight out of Crocodile Dundee.
	Who is the man behind that, and how the heck does he get away with doing that much content past his day job?
	He's Kagan Dunlap, and I've been waiting.
	It's easier to get President Trump on this show than to get this guy.
	I asked him about eight months ago, hey dude, would you like to come on for seven minutes on a national show with three and a half million listeners?
	He said, I might be available in November.
	It's December now.
	Kagan Dunlap, Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas to you too.
	All right, so tell us a little about who you are, how you get away with doing this with your day job, and what it's like to be a guy with, what have you got, like half a million followers on Instagram now?
	I think Instagram's getting, it's about to, I think it's like 592 or 93.
	592 or 93.
	593 as of now.
	593.
	Yeah.
	TikTok said like 215,000 and YouTube's about to hit 300,000 here pretty soon.
	So tell us why you did this and what your purpose is, because a lot of the stuff is, you know, military analysis, a little bit of humor, life in the Marine Corps.
	So give us your story, Kagan.
	So originally, to be quite honest with you, originally I started this, this whole thing because, um, The Uvalde Texas shooting happened.
	You remember that?
	Yeah.
	Where the elementary school got hit.
	So when that happened, I found out through just scrolling on Facebook that there was a...
	An individual whose parents, or one of his parents, his mother was a teacher at that school, and his father and his mother both passed away in the same week.
	His mother died in the shooting, and his father died from a heart failure or something that week.
	And this kid, he was a student at a university in Texas, so he just lost both of his parents, and he was a Marine at the same time.
	So I found out about that, and I was like, hey, I saw a GoFundMe for this kid that his family started to try to help pay for everything, because he just lost both of his parents.
	And I was able to reach out to a bunch of people in the community and spread the word about it to help raise money for this kid and for his family.
	And I saw the power that social media had to be able to like have a positive impact on people within our community.
	And I was like, this is what I need to do, because I want to be able to have that type of a positive impact on people all the time, or have the ability to do stuff to affect people in a positive manner.
	So that's kind of where it started.
	As far as like, I don't honestly, I have horrible work-life balance right now.
	I go to work and when I'm at work, I'm fully involved with what I've got going on at work.
	And then when I get home, I go right back to work for myself
	and I just grind all the way until an hour before sleep.
	And then I go to bed and I wake up, start the whole day over again the next day.
	But the big thing I'm trying to do a lot of the time is I try to do a lot of philanthropy
	with veteran-owned nonprofit organizations, like Hunter Seven Foundations, one of them, for example,
	which they do a lot of cancer research and they pay for cancer screenings for vets.
	They free cancer screenings for guys.
	Like I think each test is like $1,250 a piece.
	Their budget's like 300K a year.
	And they do a lot to provide that stuff to a lot of veterans in active duty,
	especially in the GWAT community who had a lot of exposures to like burn pits
	and things like that.
	So they do a lot of really good work themselves.
	And there's other organizations out there like Operation Allies Refuge Foundation,
	who is a nonprofit founded by a Marine that was in 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines,
	who was at the evacuation of Mohammed Karzai International Airport.
	And they are building funds and raising funds Okay, stop it.
	Stop it.
	You're being a Marine, alright?
	You're just being a Marine.
	Just stop it.
	We could go forever about that stuff.
	Just stop, alright?
	You're not giving us a brief to the 06 right now.
	Just stop for a second.
	So, you know my background, maybe a little bit.
	I spent five years teaching at Fort McNair for, you know, all services.
	Then I was at the Marine Corps for two and a half years in Quantico and I loved it.
	I just want to praise the Corps for letting you get away with what you do.
	Because there's only one other person serving, I know, who's a PSYOPer, a woman who has very different kind of posts on Instagram.
	You may know who I'm talking about.
	But she does it because she's messing around with IO stuff, information operations and PSYOPs.
	You, let me be clear, for people who don't know Kagan, you need to follow him right now on Instagram, kagan.dunlap.
	Because his posts are fun.
	They're provocative.
	Sometimes I think you're posting stuff that you know what it is and you're asking people to tell you what it is, but then you smuggle in the good stuff and you smuggle in the meaningful stuff.
	The stuff you just rattled off right now.
	Helping service members, surviving families of service members.
	I've got 30 seconds left, Kagan.
	I'd love to get you back for a longer chat, but you need to go back and do what you're doing.
	Name for me The charity, the thing that you're supporting now that you want millions of people to hear on radio?
	Well, the number one that I just got done with a fundraiser for was Hunter 7 Foundation.
	You can look them up online.
	They're registered 5013C or C3.
	And those are the people I was just telling you about.
	So that's the one that I just, the fundraiser just ended after 30 days with them.
	Good.
	Alright, so I want to thank you.
	Semper Fidelis to you, Kagan.
	I want to salute whoever your boss is, because the way that you're getting, you know, away with this is quite outrageous, but the Corps does things differently, and keep doing what you do, and hopefully we'll come back for another chat.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Kagan Dunlap.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, too.
	God bless.
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	Merry Christmas.
	Yes, sir.
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	Merci bien, monsieur!
	Well, you know, I was curious about the college professors that testified about the cultural jihad at their universities.
	Yes.
	And only one has resigned, Ms.
	McGill.
	And I think they just didn't want any more questions about the classified documents at the Biden-Penn.
	That's really interesting.
	So you think the other two are okay, but because of the millions of dollars that flooded into UPenn when Vice President Biden was given a chair there anonymously from China, you think that made her too vulnerable and so she had to be thrown under the bus, Todd?
	Yeah, I think it got a little hot for them, and especially since a lot of graduates from that center are currently working in the Biden administration.
	This is a CCP farm team that they've set up through the university, through their millions of dollars of bribery to these universities.
	And we had the plagiarist president, not the one in the White House, the one at Harvard, And she got away with it because of the trustees.
	I'd like to hear those trustees testify as to why they are such Hamas Nazi sympathizers.
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	I shouldn't be up here.
	I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean.
	Yet, you all come to us young people for hope.
	How dare you?
	You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.
	And yet, I'm one of the lucky ones.
	Stolen your dreams of what?
	Genocide of the Jews?
	That is of course Greta Thunberg, who has recently revealed what she's really interested in after the October 7th attacks.
	We'll talk about that later in the hour, but let's Let's unpack the phenomena that is the cult of environmentalism with the man who, at least for me but for millions of others, has done more than anyone else to explain just how dangerous this is.
	He's the author of numerous works.
	The latest, the fabulous Great Reset.
	Also, before that, with AOC on the cover, the Green Fraud, why the Green New Deal?
	He's even worse than you think.
	And the book which first introduced me to him, which is mandatory reading for all those who live in the real world, is The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change, from The Climate Depot, none other than Mark Murano.
	Merry Christmas, Mark!
	Thank you.
	Merry Christmas, Sebastian.
	Thank you very much.
	And we have to mention, of course, you wrote the foreword to The Great Reset, an awesome foreword.
	It's worth getting just to read your foreword.
	I didn't want to say anything, but it's very kind of you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mark.
	Yeah, get it just for the foreword, and then read what this chap has to say and the rest of the book.
	All right, so you spent a pre-Christmas in a place with not a lot of snow, not a lot of pine trees or reindeer, but I guess You learned a lot about the threat to the world from, what was it, the rich people with their Gulfstream jets in Dubai.
	Where have you just returned from, Mark?
	I came from none other than Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, a city that Wow, it's very developed, a lot of beautiful architecture, world's tallest building, and of course it was desert-like beautiful weather for the UN delegates, and it was the most attended United Nations Climate Summit in history.
	I've been to 18 out of the last 20, Sebastian.
	There were over 100,000 people, and the conference center was state-of-the-art.
	You could walk 30 minutes and not go from end to end.
	It was about 30 football fields put together.
	It was massive.
	I'm curious, why don't they hold these in places like, oh, I don't know, Scranton?
	Yeah, Scranton or, you know, even poor cities in India.
	They don't do it.
	They always pick exotic locations.
	Buenos Aires, Cancun.
	My favorite of all was Bali, Indonesia, 2007.
	I was a staffer for the U.S.
	Senate Environment Public Works Committee.
	My ticket was paid for by the State Department to go as part of the U.S.
	Senate.
	My round-trip business class ticket was about $17,000.
	But hang on, hang on, that's because you were on a plane that was powered by green rubber band technology, right?
	No, it was a commercial airliner and they put us up, this is no joke, the United States State Department put up government staff attending this UN summit.
	This was years ago in Bali, Indonesia.
	Oceanfront, oceanfront hotel, five-star resort with luau's every night with the flames and the food buffets.
	Not only do they have a hot tub, but they had a cold tub, a cold immersion tub next to the hot tub, palm trees along the beach.
	This is what the life is about.
	The UN knows how to do one thing, throw a party.
	And they've been, of course, all over.
	They've been in multiple other exotic locales, if you will, throughout South America and even some nice spots in Africa.
	I've been on safaris in Kenya at these UN climate summits.
	Unbelievable.
	So give us, look, you've been to many of these.
	I think for a while you were persona non grata, you were PNG'd for them because you were dead to tell the truth.
	So first things first, who's there along with Greta and the others?
	What are they really doing, Mark?
	Can you give us like, you know, the Wizard of Oz, can you give us the peek behind the curtain?
	Yes.
	They've evolved over the years.
	First of all, let's give blame where blame is due, and it's George H.W.
	Bush.
	In 1992, George H.W.
	Bush was pressured by the establishment Republicans to go down to the Rio Earth Summit.
	He went down to this summit, because this was like September or late August of 1992, right before his loss to Bill Clinton.
	And the idea was he was going to pander to the media, maybe get more favorable media coverage.
	He signed on to the Rio Earth Summit Treaty, which gave us United Nations Addenda 21, the whole sustainable development, the UN mid-level bureaucrats taking over every level, not taking over, but influencing every level of government, even in the US, where they pre-package all this stuff on sustainable development, which led to the Green New Deal.
	But most importantly, what happened in 1992 with George H.W.
	Bush, it led to the creation of this UN Climate Conferences, which we go to.
	Let's hold there for a second.
	You can talk about how those conferences evolved over time.
	Why on earth would the Bushes do this?
	What was the upside for conservatives who understand the importance of fossil fuel, of energy independence?
	Why, Mark?
	Well, it was 1992.
	And one of the things about this whole climate energy debate is, up until a few years ago, you could virtue signal, you had Republicans, Conservatives, oh yeah, we can do that by 2040, we'll do this, we'll sign on to that.
	Arnold Schwarzenegger was a climate hero in 2005 for the historic California climate bill because he could stay in office another term and nothing happened until 10 years after he left office.
	You didn't feel the effects.
	So, back in 1992, this was just do whatever.
	Also, his Chief of Staff, John Sununu, the father of New Hampshire Governor Sununu, who's endorsed Nikki Haley, assured everyone that this was just a non-binding thing and that Bush wasn't going to get the U.S.
	into any trouble at all.
	Well, he was wrong.
	John Sununu, Chief of Staff of George W. Bush, was instrumental in making this happen as well.
	But this was typical of, I would say, you know, especially George H.W.
	Bush.
	He was a member of the, you know, he liked playing tennis at the U.N.
	He was a member of the establishment.
	He wasn't going to go against this anyway, really, in any real way, I don't think, in terms of that climate agenda.
	So he just went all in.
	And it was beyond the climate agenda.
	This was sustainable development agenda.
	And so, of course, he did it.
	And, of course, he lost anyway to Bill Clinton.
	So there's a lesson there for establishment Republicans in their pandering.
	All right, so they pander, it fails, they lose the election, the agenda is set, these conferences begin.
	What is the ostensible, what's the open agenda, and what's really going on in these swanky resorts, Mark?
	Okay, well there's a lot of questions.
	Okay, the first thing is the agenda is very simple.
	It's evolved slightly over the years, but originally it was just to convince the world there was a problem.
	Well, first of all, you have to understand, the UN 1988 forms the climate panel.
	They look at how CO2 is influencing climate.
	If the United Nations fails to find carbon dioxide is causing a climate emergency or a climate crisis, They fail to have a reason to exist as a panel.
	So we know right off the bat they're going to make CO2 a dangerous pollutant that's going to destroy the earth.
	We also know that they're not looking at natural causes of climate change because that's not in their charter.
	Now here's the thing, Sebastian.
	If they find CO2 as a danger, which they did in the very first report, and they just kept doubling and tripling down, they get to also put themselves in charge of the solution, which is what these Conference of Parties are.
	You know, COP28, and no, it's not the number of cops jumping out of a Bachelorette cake at some party.
	This is called Conference of Parties.
	These are just giant echo chambers of world leaders.
	The most recent, I think we had 191 or 190 plus countries at this one in Dubai.
	And they all get together and they basically say, we care about climate change, we care about global warming,
	and we are committed to the net zero climate agenda.
	And we're gonna support, they support a whole, at least verbally, a lot of this is non-commitment,
	but even though they're technically non-binding, they actually end up being,
	because these politicians go home and their legal systems, their environmental ministers, the bureaucracy,
	starts following all these rules, even though the country theoretically,
	legally doesn't have to.
	A lot of them, like the Paris Agreement, were voluntary targets.
	But what ends up happening, like in the Netherlands, You have courts ordering the nitrogen oxide and farming restrictions that we're going to punish the small middle-range farmers, family-run generational farms, and of course make them vulnerable to be bought out by the Bill Gates and big corporate agribusiness that go along with this whole agenda.
	So these meetings are basically 190 countries get together Commit themselves to emission restrictions.
	Commit themselves, more importantly, to emission monitoring.
	And we had Al Gore at last year's summit show up with Google that they're gonna have, I call it, Big Al is watching you.
	Because he and Google are partnering up to monitor your farms, factories, any kind of small businesses, medium-sized businesses, all your CO2 emissions, so that they can start this whole process of enforcing, penalizing, and taxing you for excess carbon dioxide emissions.
	All right, we'll talk about the genesis of all of this momentarily, but in the meantime, please add these books to your library.
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	I want to share them with all of our viewers and listeners.
	And the first graph has to do with global emissions decline of CO2.
	So how we've actually seen a steady diminution, a lessening of CO2.
	In recent years.
	And then we have the annual CO2 emissions for just annualized carbon dioxide from fossil fuels.
	This shows for the UK, for example, a drastic decline from 600 million tons down to less than 350 million tons.
	Now, A, The fact is, it's getting less and less and less.
	But B, and this is something that you can unpack for us, how did anyone, whether it's Greta, whether it's Al Gore, whether it's any of these lunatics, the net zero crowd, John Kerry, how did they pull off the con of the century With regards to carbon and carbon dioxide.
	We are carbon-based life-forms.
	Without carbon, there is nothing.
	There is no life on this planet.
	And secondly, you learn this, you know, age 10 in school, that carbon dioxide is the fuel for life.
	If you don't have carbon dioxide, plants can't grow.
	If plants can't grow, animals can't eat.
	And if animals can't eat, there's no fuel for human beings.
	Yes.
	Isn't this, I mean, forget selling a bridge in Connecticut, isn't this the biggest con in recent history?
	It absolutely is, and they've turned us, as you said, they've weaponized humans.
	And here's how absurd it is, right at the end of this Dubai conference, Sebastian, they had a study in a peer-reviewed journal called PLOS, and I take out the L and just call it POS, but this study actually said Human breath contributes to global warming.
	This was funded.
	This was actual scientists studying this from the UK.
	And they came out and they said that the warming agents in our breath, everything, we inhale oxygen, we exhale CO2.
	So right there, our breath is considered a pollutant.
	We also, our breath also contains methane.
	And if you remember, that's why they want to stop meat eating because of the cows and the sheep and the pig and all that.
	Let me just pick one of them.
	the farm animals are emitting methane and we also contain nitrous oxide which
	is a warming agent according to them and now they're basically that's the same
	concept they want to go after high-yield agriculture. Let me just pick one of them if you're focusing on
	human breath being a problem there's only one natural conclusion Mark that
	you need to get rid of humans. Yes as we said you are the carbon they want to
	reduce and eliminate.
	And here's the other thing, just as an aside, they brought identity politics into this human breath study.
	And I'm not making this up, Sebastian.
	Africans have more warming agents in their breath than Asians.
	And women have more hot air basically than men.
	So have you ever thought of women are full of hot air?
	They actually quantified this in the study that women increase warming more than men and Africans are worse at warming than Asians.
	So they're misogynists and they're racists.
	to misogynist and racist. And not only that, there was a scientific American earlier this year
	had a study about how human pee was now a global warming problem because we eat so much meat it
	converts the nitrogen for the nitrogen and I guess that the base of the meat comes out as nitrous
	oxide in our urine and so they're getting us at both ends.
	If you have, oh, actually all three.
	So you got the urine, you got your breath, and it's even the flatulence as well.
	Human flatulence was mentioned in this study as well.
	And that's the other big reason, of course, for getting us off meat.
	And this is why Bill Gates wants to have lab-grown meat, which don't make, to clarify this to your audience, we're not talking about the Impossible Burger vegetable oil process.
	Lab-grown meat is taken from stem cells from a cow, sheep, or pig,
	mixed with the fetal blood of those animals, put into a petri dish, then in a steel vat,
	and then it's allowed to fester.
	There's no brain, there's no eyes, there's no bone.
	It's just sort of an amorphous, invasion of the body snatchers type of blob.
	And then they add coloring, texture, additives, antibiotics.
	And at the end, this is the piece de resistance.
	They literally print it on a 3D printer.
	And by the end of it, I gotta tell you, from looking at pictures, it looks like real meat.
	And guess what?
	Since Bill Gates is America's number one farmland owner, and that's his stated goal, is to get the entire Western world, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Europe, all eating synthetic beef, he's already got the FDA to approve, for the first time in human history in the U.S., Lab-grown chicken and beef and pork.
	I have to drill down on this one because you hear lots of conspiracy theories and wacky stuff.
	We know he's got this global plan for universal vaccination against, you know, normal things like malaria or polio.
	So what's the evidence for why he's buying all this farmland, Mark?
	Why is Bill Gates buying all of this farmland?
	Okay, a couple things.
	He, first of all, claims In much the way, I think it was, was it Hillary Clinton or one of the Clintons, they were talking about their blind trust and these are just his investors and wow, suddenly he just owns a lot of farmland.
	NBC News declared him America's single largest farmland owner.
	Now, the good news is prior to that, there was worry, Politico, Sebastian, reported that there was worry about a Chinese-American agricultural land monopoly because China was buying up land.
	But here's the thing, that was about two years ago.
	Now, Bill Gates beat out China, and I'm not convinced that's necessarily a good thing, because at least with China we'd be more suspicious, I think, than we are of a homegrown American.
	But Jeff Bezos is also buying up farmland.
	They're still it's still as a percentage of the whole.
	It's not significant to dominate all agricultural policy because they're just these are the largest single farmland owners.
	They're not the largest.
	They don't own most of the farmland just to be clear on that point.
	But what ends up happening And I don't even know.
	The reason he wants to own it, as he's told MIT Technology Review, he wants undue influence.
	Just the same reason, Sebastian, that if you look at it between Gavi, his vaccine organization, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, he is on most years the number one donor to the World Health Organization.
	Well, why is that?
	Because he wants that influence.
	And he's already getting results from this influence.
	The lab-grown meat has been approved.
	On the same token, he and Richard Branson, another billionaire, have invested in the blocking out the sun.
	They want to inject chemicals in the atmosphere.
	They've invested through Harvard University to inject chemicals to block out the sun and cool the earth, which most scientists, even in the mainstream corporate media, say is a bonkers idea.
	It really sounds like, you know, Ernst Stavro Blofeld in his hollowed-out volcano.
	I mean, it really sounds like some kind of supervillain.
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	This is going to be a hard question for you, Mark, but I have to ask you because, you know, you're the guy on the ground.
	You go to all these meetings.
	You see the activists.
	You see the talking heads.
	We've discussed Gates, Bezos, Kerry, Greta.
	Oh, let's have a little clip from Greta.
	This is the best clip of Greta ever.
	This is all we hear from our so-called leaders.
	Words.
	Words that sound great.
	But so far has led to no action.
	Build back better.
	Bla bla bla.
	Green economy.
	Bla bla bla.
	Net zero by 2050.
	Bla bla bla.
	I just love that.
	Bla bla bla.
	Yes, she is the queen.
	The princess of bla bla bla.
	How much of the, let's call it the movement, everything that you've described in your books, is shaped and driven by real ideologues, you know, the people who have dark intentions, think humans are the problem, and how much are useful idiots who think, oh, we've got to save the planet, the earth is on fire, or just useful idiots being exploited by their parents, like Greta.
	Do you have a sense of proportions in the movement?
	Well, that's a great question and depends on which, obviously like the youth climate movement is full of true believers.
	They've been indoctrinated from kindergarten through college.
	By the way, Greta is so extreme that she switched over and is now one of the main enemies of the United Nations.
	She was uninvited.
	Because she thinks they're not serious, right?
	She doesn't think they're serious enough, and she's given whole rallies and speeches.
	She's lined herself with a guy named George Monbiot, a UK environmentalist, who went to end all farming around the world.
	I mean, these are true genocidal ideologues that she's married herself to.
	She's correct on one end that the UN is all full of hot air, blah, blah, blah.
	She's absolutely correct.
	If you actually were worried about the climate, nothing the UN has proposed would have any impact on the climate if you believed the UN science.
	Now in terms of just overall how much this is ideology versus the dark side or the power, I would say obviously at the global level, the world economic forum, and the United Nations level, this is all darkness.
	You have the bureaucrats, the ideologues, the activists, and the billionaire class that you can't ever discount the billionaire class because they're heavily involved in the world economic forum and all the and they bring in all these corporations but essentially this is driven by United Nations ideologues and when they started this panel in 1988 the actual first UN climate report before they could get their whole machine showed the medieval warm period much warmer than today I mean significantly warmer and then they started a whole campaign openly I mean we had scientists testify in the U.S.
	Senate They were called by other UN scientists saying we have to get rid of the medieval warm period because it was embarrassing all their climate crisis plans.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	We have to get rid of the medieval warm period?
	Isn't that against the rules of science to delete something that's inconvenient, Mark?
	Well, they do it in a way where it's like, well, we had to do some statistical reanalysis and we fixed it.
	They look at it as we've corrected the record.
	And it's always corrected one way, to show the past is cooler than today, because they never could show you that it was warmer.
	And not only that, but they're doing the same thing.
	If you go to Joe Biden's EPA, Environmental Protection Agency, it shows the 1930s as about 10 times worse heat waves than anything we experienced this year, last year, the last 30 years.
	And we now have a scientist out of Texas A&M named Andrew Destler, Sebastian, who's already started a let's-get-rid-of-the-1930s heat wave.
	They want to go back and reanalyze all the data like people couldn't take the temperature back in the 1930s.
	And they want to change the fact that since 1955, pre-1955, 70% of all temperature records were set.
	In other words, we were much warmer before 1955 here in the United States than any other time that we've measured as a history of our country.
	That's inconvenient because they want to tell you today is unprecedented in the hottest we've ever experienced.
	Yeah, yeah That is something that would make the big brother of George Orwell's 1984 proud that you just oh, there's something that's a historic fact.
	We're just going to We're just going to redefine it because it doesn't fit our political needs.
	We're talking to the creator of the Climate Depot, climatedepot.com.
	Follow Mark Morano right now at Climate Depot and get his book, The Great Reset.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First 101, coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios.
	How should we under... Look, everybody needs to get the book, Great Reset.
	But how should we understand this phrase?
	Because it's not a standalone, you know, uh, Klaus, uh, what is it?
	Schwab is his name, right?
	Yes.
	It's not just a Schwab thing, you know, the guy with the, you know, the Blofeld accent.
	This fits into COVID, it hits into lockdowns, it fits into the Chinese concept of social credit scores.
	The Great Reset, this is something not To be papooed, this should be taken seriously as a threat to liberty, shouldn't it?
	Yes, here's a simple explanation.
	When March of 2020 hit and we had the emergency declarations here which allowed every governor mayor particularly democrat governor mayor to turn it overnight to a to a dictator and bypass democracy we became after decades of everyone from Tom Friedman on the pages in the pages of New York Times to Justin Trudeau to Jennifer Granholm to Klaus Schwab to UN Secretary Generals to UN climate chiefs To Apple CEOs all praising China and China's one-party rule for basically doing it right and getting things done without the messiness of democracy.
	You had all these Western elite leaders praising China's one-party rule.
	Well, COVID brought that to much of the world.
	Under emergency decrees, the most consequential decisions were made.
	Church closures, school closures, stay at home, cancelled weddings, funerals, medical procedures, vaccine mandates.
	All this was done without an ounce of democracy.
	That's what they're trying to achieve with climate.
	So right before this conference in Dubai, this is a key thing.
	200 medical journals led by the prestigious British Medical Journal are urging the World Health Organization and the United Nations to declare climate a public health threat akin to COVID.
	Except the difference here, Sebastian, is climate will be a permanent Public health emergency.
	Whereas COVID, actually they couldn't justify after a couple years, it had to eventually wane.
	Climate, there's no short, there's no criteria by which to disprove climate change.
	Ergo, 10 years, 20 years, we'll be in a permanent climate crisis.
	And that's their goal.
	They want to model the same thing on climate, the same methods of bypassing democracy, of the emergency decree.
	NBC News reported that if Joe Biden declares a national climate emergency, which he almost did a year ago last summer, It would give them 130 powers, very similar to governors and mayors had during COVID.
	And this would extend to governors and mayors.
	You could have governors shutting down, you know, gas stations to limit travel.
	You could have more thermostat controls like we saw in Colorado where, you know, the utility was controlling it during a heat wave so people wouldn't go too far.
	So that's what this, that's what the Great Reset is.
	And just so you also know, it's when you go to these UN summits, net zero is a Soviet style.
	Instead of a five-year plan like Joseph Solomon was famous for, these are 10, 15, 25-year plans of strict adherence, and it's about the intentional collapse and restriction of energy, food, and transportation, your freedom of movement.
	They're open about it.
	And if you think that, you know, Mark is being hyperbolic and just, you know, wants to sell books, this is real.
	This is part of government policy in the UK of all places.
	Even the cuckolded conservatives have signed on to net zero.
	This is in the land of, you know, North Sea gas and North Sea oil, the former British Empire.
	This is real.
	Let me jump to the flip side of all this.
	So this is an assault On the freedoms of advanced countries, the first world.
	But there's this topic we don't discuss often enough that if you take any of this stuff seriously, the New Greta's, the John Kerry's, the COP, the climate conferences, you're basically condemning Hundreds of millions of people in Africa and in the third world to death.
	I mean, I had a guest on the show who's helping to ship coal to villages in Afghanistan because they have nothing.
	There's no gas, there's no electricity, nothing.
	They're not going to survive the winter without lumps of coal.
	If you get off fossil fuels, if you ban plastics, if you ban coal, the third world just becomes a holocaust zone, doesn't it?
	It does, and that was the opening of this conference, was Camilla Harris, our Vice President, showing up in Dubai at the UN Summit, announcing a huge $3 billion commitment of the United States to the UN Climate Fund, or the UN Slush Fund.
	And what the UN does with this climate money from Western nations like the US, from US taxpayers, They pay the African leaders, South American leaders, who are best able to keep their citizens locked in poverty.
	And this is just evil.
	There's no other word for it.
	Because if you're a socialist, a tin horn dictator, and your country's in economic chaos, guess what?
	The UN looks at you as a climate-friendly place, and you're going to get showered with money to these corrupt governments who will use the money to build monuments and stadiums, ensure their re-election, And keep the people in poverty.
	That's the stated goal of this UN climate fund.
	We're going to give it because they're not allowing Africa to make the same mistakes the wealthy Western world did.
	Long life, low infant mortality.
	And not only that, but Financial Times during the summit reported that these carbon offset firms, and yeah that's still a thing Sebastian, They're buying up private offset companies, carbon offset, for white, guilty Europeans.
	This article was about white, guilty Europeans buying up land in the poorest of African nations like Zambia, Tanzania.
	And some of these countries have 20% of their land locked up by these private carbon offset companies, meaning Africans can't develop their own natural resources because of white, guilty liberals in Europe and the United States want to feel better about private jet use and owning multiple mansions.
	That sounds like a form of very, very subtle, very covert colonialism to me.
	We're talking to Mark Morano, the author of The Great Reset, coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios.
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	Speaking of the President, Mark, so my job was natural security, but I have to say one of my proudest days in the White House, I have a photograph of this.
	I had no portfolio on this issue, I wasn't meant to be there, but I snuck to the back of the Rose Garden.
	It was one of the most beautiful days in DC.
	The Rose Garden was packed and I hid at the back of the press gang and I took a photograph
	of the announcement of the President pulling us out of the Paris Climate Accords.
	And just one line where he said, I was elected by the people of Pittsburgh, not the people
	of Paris.
	That's when I said, wow, this guy gets it.
	Now we actually outperformed the Paris target goals after we left.
	And I have to recruit you to help me address a criticism from my son, who's a rock-ribbed
	conservative, but he says, Dad, why do you and all of your buddies want to destroy the
	environment with your V8-engined Mustangs and all this stuff?
	What about good stewardship?
	How do we answer our attitude?
	We're not about Burning everything that is, you know, oily from the ground.
	What is the conservative, rational response to energy usage and the environment, Mark?
	Well, actually, the administration you work for, President Trump, had an incredible analysis at the end of his first term, where literally he explained how every major pollutant in the United States had dropped significantly and, are you ready for this, we led the world in reducing CO2, which isn't a pollutant, but if that's your bag and you're worried about it, under Donald Trump, we were the fastest reducing CO2 nation on the planet, even more than all the signatories of the U.N.
	Paris Agreement, which, as you mentioned, Donald Trump pulled us out of.
	So they were wagging their finger at Trump.
	How dare you?
	You're uncouth for pulling out of this treaty.
	And we were doing better than all of them by those U.N.
	Paris climate goals.
	Everyone wants a clean environment.
	What I'd point out to your son, Sebastian, is you look back at 1970, the first Earth Day.
	Now, I'm ambivalent about Earth Day, at least the first, you know, several Earth Days, Because on one hand they brought out a lot of the wacky environmental radicals.
	You had the Paul Ehrlich, the overpopulation gurus.
	You had all the socialists, the club of Rome.
	The modern Malthusians.
	Yes, but here's the flip side of that is you did have a lot of concerned Americans who by the late 1960s, rivers and cities were filthy and polluted.
	And what happened was they raised public awareness of that and they made it difficult for companies not to clean up their act.
	So if you fast forward 10, 20, 30 years from that from 1970, And you look at today, we've radically improved air quality, water quality in the United States since the first Earth Day.
	And at the same time, we've had massive economic growth and massive population growth.
	We did it not through EPA, environmental bureaucracies, which has made the cost of business more expensive.
	We did it through companies and public awareness and companies embracing technology.
	So now you have coal plants built now compared to ones built 40 years ago.
	I've seen estimates are like 90% cleaner among all pollutants.
	And this is where you win the battle.
	We can do it because with prosperity comes technology.
	With technology comes solving all of these problems, particularly of pollution.
	So we can have it all.
	Even the World Health Organization, which Donald Trump wisely pulled us out of, ...recognizes the U.S.
	as among the cleanest air quality in the world.
	So we're doing something right here, and if you look at the filthiest air quality and pollution, it was the most heavily regulated states.
	You may have some experience with that.
	A little thing called the Eastern Bloc nations, where they were perhaps... Now maybe it wasn't tried.
	I want to be careful.
	Maybe the socialism wasn't tried correctly.
	You know, they always say that.
	But what we did see was some of the worst environments.
	And when you have the lack of prosperity, like in Africa, You have people dumping their, you know, they're living in huts made of dung, burning dung inside with the worst indoor air quality, with a huge death toll according to the World Health Organization and other independent and independent bodies.
	But you also have filthy streams, horrible land use, slash and burn agriculture because they don't have any other means in order to develop.
	And that's what's so perverse is the United Nations and the entire climate agenda Once I come in and give these people only solar panel, only wind turbines, and allow them to have sort of a subsistence level of living.
	And they're trying to develop world too, by the way.
	They're going to give us a universal basic income to keep the public compliant and docile and guaranteed to vote for the politicians that are giving you this universal basic income.
	One last question we haven't addressed which is essential, Mark, is can you tell us the truth about this 95% of scientists agree, you know, UN report garbage.
	There is no such consensus and, you know, science doesn't, you know, depend upon voting and consensus.
	It depends upon testing, verification, duplication.
	What's the truth about this 95% of scientists agree the climate is getting hotter?
	Yeah, I've interviewed scientists from around the world, and I've interviewed lead authors of the UN about this very topic.
	It turns out, I interviewed Dr. Richard Tull, who was the lead author of the United Nations Climate Report, and his own research into this claim.
	Now, they started with most scientists, then they said 90%, then they said 97%.
	Al Gore has upped it to 99% of all scientists agree.
	But Richard Tull actually told me, and it was in my film, these numbers were literally, quote, pulled from thin air, that the studies that claim this have no basis for saying it.
	One of the studies, Sebastian, was of 77 anonymous scientists, and of those, they claimed 75 agreed the Earth was warming and that humans contribute to that warming, which most skeptical scientists would say, sure, doesn't have anything to do with a climate crisis or climate emergency, but yeah.
	They turned these 77 anonymous scientists into the 97% consensus.
	It wasn't even 97 scientists that made this claim.
	The other thing they do is they ask the governing board of the National Academy of Science, which is corrupted by government money, it's almost completely funded by state and federal money, To the point where they have lobbied for cap-and-trade legislation when President Obama was president.
	Well the two dozen governing board members steeped in politics and funding issue statements that go along with the UN.
	Same is true of these other science bodies like the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union.
	and the American Physics Society, all of these groups, it's the governing boards issue these
	UN kind of climate crisis statements without ever consulting the rank and file. And all of
	these organizations, there's blowback. The members try to fight back, they try to fight the management.
	In the case of the American Meteorological Society, they actually polled the meteorologists.
	One time the polls were more than half, I think it was like 70 some percent were skeptical of
	man-made climate change, yet the governing board went along with the Al Gore UN version of it.
	So this is what you call a manufactured consensus, steeped in funding and politics, and it's meant to silence anyone who opposes the agenda.
	Same way COVID.
	If you oppose masking, are you an epidemiologist?
	All epidemiologists!
	Anthony Fauci has the most credentials in the world and all of the scientists that work for him.
	You know, I remember Fauci at a hearing asking them, And he said, everyone up the chain and down the chain.
	I chained it up and everyone agreed with me.
	And it's like, you're literally the director funding everyone's salary.
	Do you think one of these scientists is going to torpedo their career?
	But he was saying it like it was a proud thing.
	Like, all the people I fund agree with me.
	I mean, he didn't even see the self-absurdity in his comments.
	But hang on, you don't understand that He is science.
	He told us.
	He is science.
	And then just before Christmas he says, I don't need God.
	My values.
	I mean, he is God.
	He is science.
	He's everything.
	They tried to silence us.
	One man they will never be able to silence is our friend Mark Morano.
	His latest book is The Great Reset.
	Get it today.
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	God bless you, Mark.
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