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	Greetings, dear friends.
	Welcome to America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	I think we're missing a guest today.
	Mr. G, is it true that the mayor of New York was coming to D.C.
	and we could have had him in studio?
	I don't know if we could have had him in studio, but he was coming to D.C.
	You mean you didn't ask him?
	Well, if we offered the house some illegal aliens, he may have actually taken us up on that offer.
	But what happened to him coming to DC, Mr. G?
	I think it was his main donor house was raided by the FBI.
	No, no, no.
	Is it?
	What?
	What?
	What is this?
	Fox News, FBI raids home of New York City Mayor Eric Adams' chief fundraiser, Brianna Suggs.
	Dear oh dear, do you think that's why he had to cancel his trip, Jeff?
	I don't think he's going to be complaining about illegal aliens taking over the city the next month or so.
	I don't think that's going to happen anymore.
	Welcome dear friends.
	Just keeping you up on the breaking news.
	So much to discuss.
	We will have a very special guest from Israel in the next segment.
	We'll be talking to my good buddy Boris Epstein, former Special Assistant to President Trump, now Senior Advisor to The leader of the opposition, Breitbart's Matt Boyle, will be with us.
	A brave man, a veteran, who is running for one of the Senate seats in California.
	And then, perhaps one of our greatest experts on Iran, former Treasury investigator, current Vice President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, Jonathan Shands, will be with us.
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	There is a senator.
	Jeff, sorry to bug you so much at the top of the show.
	Does Senator Turbeville even do media?
	He doesn't do a lot.
	You'd think he would do more.
	We've got to get him on the show because how long has he been blocking these woke generals and admirals?
	It's been at least a couple of months, right?
	At least.
	I think it's like three or four months.
	And why is Lindsey Graham so angry?
	Because he's not what he pretends to be when he goes on Hannity every other night.
	Right, and say, I'm going to subpoena Hunter Biden!
	Yeah, we won't hold our breath on that one.
	So the Senator Turbeville has said, this is the power of the individual senators, he's not going to confirm the Biden administration's offices, the promotions, the leadership of the DOD, because, because what?
	The DOD is funding abortions.
	Amongst all the other insanity, like transgender Naveville individuals, officers recruiting as drag queens, right?
	All of that insanity.
	West Point teaching critical race theory.
	But above all, it's illegal.
	In the Hyde Amendment, you cannot have federal funding of abortions.
	Well, the DoD is doing it.
	And as a result, poor Lindsey Graham, he's a little angry about a certain promotion.
	Cut nine!
	And we have courts.
	If you think they've done something illegal, go to court.
	That's how you handle these things.
	The Pentagon has issued a legal opinion I disagree with, saying this doesn't violate the Hyde Amendment.
	I disagree with it.
	Here's what's going to happen.
	You've just denied this lady a promotion.
	You did that.
	All of us are ready to promote her because she deserves to be promoted.
	Eric, isn't it a little embarrassing that one senator's telling another senator that if he's got a problem, he should go to the courts?
	I thought we had separate branches of government, Eric.
	I know I'm an immigrant, but I thought the Senate is a different branch of government.
	Yeah, this is literally a political issue.
	It's a matter of confirming or not confirming nominees.
	What do the courts have to do with this?
	And even if it was a legal issue, he's the Senate, right?
	This is an executive.
	Let's do the 101.
	Executive.
	Then we have Congress.
	And then we have the courts.
	Somebody should just tell Lindsey Graham that they're different things and that's why we have checks and balances.
	And you know why Lindsey Graham, as Jeff says, isn't What he says he is.
	He's not what he pretends to be on Hannity.
	Well, when you're agreeing with Mitt Romney... Mitt Romney's not running again, is he, Eric?
	Mitt Romney's going to hide in some kind of cave in Utah, right?
	He very unceremoniously announced his retirement earlier this year, yes.
	Well, I wish he'd stop yapping or yakking.
	Here he is agreeing with Lindsey Graham, cut 10.
	But also out of concern for the men and women who are being held up.
	And whose careers and prospects and families and plans are being interrupted by virtue of the decision by, in this case, two people.
	One, Secretary Austin, and the other is Senator Tuberville, to take intractable positions.
	And it's simply, in my opinion, an abuse of the powers we have as senators to say if there's something we vehemently disagree with, that we're going to use that power to hold up the promotion of over 350 men and women in our military.
	Now, I know I have an accent, but Alex, maybe I just don't understand English.
	Isn't that what checks and balances means?
	Oh, my mic's down.
	No, no, we heard you.
	If a senator disagrees with something the executive is doing, is he just supposed to surrender?
	Or did the founding fathers, like, design the system that that's how it works?
	They designed it to have some tension there to keep each other in balance, sir.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know this dirty word?
	Gridlock.
	The founding fathers designed the system to have gridlock so you wouldn't have little King Georges in the White House.
	That's the whole stinking point.
	One man who gets it is J.D.
	Vance.
	I think J.D.
	Vance is gone.
	What do you think, Eric?
	I think he's gone on PhD weight loss.
	Does he look good in this clip?
	He looks really good, yeah.
	He's making beards great again.
	Yeah, he looks good.
	And he's doing the same thing Turbeville's doing for the DOD appointments with the DOJ.
	And he's justifying it similarly because of the way the Department of Justice is behaving.
	So let's get JD back on the show because he gets what the Founding Fathers meant.
	This is the Senator from Ohio.
	Cut 12!
	When these nominations sailed through unanimous consent, the Department of Justice was not trying to throw the political rival of the President of the United States in prison.
	I object to this because we are living in a banana republic where the President is using his Department of Justice to go after his chief political rival, the person he will appear on the ballot with, in about a year.
	If the Department of Justice will use these nominations for law instead of politics, I am happy to end this whole policy, but so long as the Department of Justice uses its nominations and uses its personnel to go after its political opponents from the President of the United States on down, I will object.
	Because of that, Madam President, I do object.
	Bingo!
	That, what you just heard, that massively long 45 second clip is the embodiment of checks and balances.
	If we don't like what the executive is doing, especially when they're from another party and they're persecuting the leader of the opposition, And we are from the other party and we say, no, no, no, no, no.
	That's not rule of law.
	That's using the Department of Justice for political purposes.
	Then we object and we stymie their actions.
	We stymie their funding.
	We stymie their personal decisions.
	He's a man who gets it.
	I know you do too.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We've only just begun.
	What's happening in Israel?
	Why is the White House calling for a ceasefire?
	But the Pentagon is saying no need for a ceasefire.
	Are they really that confused inside one branch of government?
	We'll dissect that and so much more here on America First.
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	Thank you, Mr. President.
	I love that line.
	And welcome back to America First.
	We are watching, of course, every single day, giving you updates on what's happening in the Middle East after the slaughter of the innocents, October 7th, the greatest loss of life since the Holocaust for the Jewish nation.
	I know Israel will do what needs to be done, but what can we do, especially with the lack of leadership we have in the White House right now?
	You can do something.
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	donate. Already you heard the director of the hospital say to us that you have saved lives
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	then please go to healthcareforisrael.org slash donate. You know me, in a past life I lived,
	eat, ate, slept counter-terrorism.
	That's why I ended up in the White House after I wrote my book, Defeating Jihad, which is really the explication of what the jihadis believe.
	And for many years, I would spend the anniversary of September the 11th in Israel, in Herzliya, at something called the International Center for Counterterrorism.
	There is the former director Boaz Ganor on the right, and Steve, one of his amazing assistants.
	They would have a counter-terrorism conference every year to talk about lessons learned, where I gave a lecture.
	I think we have a slide.
	This is from seven years ago.
	What I was doing back then when I... No!
	The slide, guys.
	The slide.
	I'll send you another photograph.
	Okay, you've got to keep the phones on, you've got to listen to the phones, and you've got to post them.
	But let's show the gift I was given after I arrived there from the White House.
	It's a hat with a slightly different message.
	A red hat with white writing.
	Build Israel Great Again.
	I can't remember who gave that to me in Herzliya.
	Let's talk about counter-terrorism.
	Let's talk about the last three weeks in Israel with the current managing director of that incredible organization.
	We are delighted to have with us a former intelligence officer for the IDF, Miri Eisen, former colonel in the reserves.
	Welcome to America First.
	Amazing to be on the show.
	Thank you for inviting me.
	Well, we are honored.
	When I reached out to Boaz Ganor and I said, Hey, can we get you on the show?
	He said, I'm a little bit busy right now.
	And I fully understand it.
	He said, but I've got the right guest for you.
	And you are indeed the right guest.
	Can you help us understand Because there's a lot of taxonomy, there's a lot of argument over labels and words.
	What we are witnessing in the last three days, are these shaping operations as opposed to a large-scale land incursion?
	How should Israel's allies and partners understand what the IDF is doing now?
	You're gonna allow me to go a step backwards and then a step forward because I've been listening to your words and I want to add a few to the lexicon because the way that we're looking at the Hamas attack on October 7th, the term that I'm using now is a genocidal mass terror attack that started on October 7th, but it's still going on and we're already on November 2nd.
	And for all of us who are saying this was an attack on October 7th, this was a genocidal terror mass attack.
	That was planned up front to have several stages.
	And where Israel is right now, the Israeli Defense Forces, the actions that we're taking against the Hamas genocidal terror organization, and I'm going to say that word a lot, What we're doing right now is trying to get into their, I'm not going to say heart and soul, I don't think they have a heart or a soul, but to get into the dens, the absolute center of where they built their defense.
	Why am I saying it in those stages?
	Because the initial stage, the...
	The attack on Saturday, October 7th, the atrocities committed on October 7th, those were planned, pre-planned.
	They were planned to be done in such a way.
	But even to add on to that, I can't say worse.
	What's worse than the atrocities is that they first uploaded them and then removed them from the media on purpose.
	And what they did when they took the over 240 hostages, and we still don't know the exact number, is that since then they have been using the Gaza Strip as their entire arena, subterranean and above ground, and they want the IDF to come in.
	They want the Israeli Defense Forces to come in.
	And so the stage that we're at is the stage where we're coming in and we are not playing by their game.
	It is very challenging.
	Urban warfare, subterranean warfare against a terror army that has been building this for the last decade, for over 10 years.
	It's been something that we've discussed so extensively.
	Now we're in it.
	So what we're doing is being systematic, Slow, clear, and destructive to the Hamas, I hate the word, terror infrastructure.
	But when I break that down, to get to it, you're going under the Jabalia refugee camp.
	To get to it, they built their main headquarters under hospitals.
	We haven't gone there yet.
	But all of it is interconnected by that subterranean arena, and you need to go in to be able to access it.
	Professor Ganor was right that you are the right guest.
	May I?
	Will you indulge me?
	I know it's a little bit later in Israel.
	Could we hold you over for one more segment, Colonel?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, last question for this segment.
	And I don't want you to give away anything that's of tactical or operational value, but you've emphasized this.
	This is urban warfare.
	This is the toughest kind of warfare.
	Does Israel have, with America's help maybe, the fidelity of intelligence To know where these tunnels are.
	Because we look at the unclassified reports and it looks like a maze.
	It looks like a warren under most of Gaza.
	Will the IDF know where they need to go?
	They may not have known exactly before we went in, and that's also one of the reasons that you go in slowly and systematically.
	Having said that, they, the Hamas themselves, who are very proud of the system that they built, terror, genocidal terror organizations, are proud of themselves.
	They absolutely have shown different footage.
	At this stage along the way, and this has been done for years with cooperation with the United States military, with the defense system, is everybody's interested in trying to map out the subterranean arena.
	So you have a lot of different types of technology that are trying to be developed.
	I am going to imagine that Israel, that was absolutely shocked, surprised, and I mean devastated by the attack of October 7th, by the evening of October 7th, we're at the stage where we are innovative.
	Meaning we know to go in, we know to understand, we know to invent as it's going on.
	So I'd say we're mapping it out now without going into any of the details of how you do that from above and from below.
	And how is the morale of the IDF?
	I'm sure you're in touch with all your former colleagues.
	You say former colleagues, but Sebastian, it's Israel.
	My husband is mobilized.
	All three of my kids are in service right now.
	I'm a retired colonel, but everything around me is all about that.
	Israel is a mobilized country.
	When I say morale, one of the most amazing things about a country that I live in, that I so love, and I know you're an immigrant, I understand, to the United States.
	I was just listening to you before.
	My parents chose to immigrate from the United States to Israel 52 years ago.
	And when I say morale, I live in a country where 1,400 people were brutally, atrociously massacred and we still can't identify the bodies on October 7th.
	And we are together and we are resilient and we are strong in the face of this horrific enemy.
	And that includes the Israeli Defense Forces and really all of society.
	I think the figures speak for themselves.
	I think you had a mobilization of maybe 140 or 150 percent because so many men and women volunteered who are past the age for volunteering.
	But they said we are ready to go.
	We are ready to fight.
	We're talking to the managing director of the International Institute for Counterterrorism, Colonel Amiri Aysen Retired.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	We will be back after these messages.
	Whatever you're doing, wherever you are, stay on this channel.
	you you
	Thank you very much.
	So how long have you been with ICT?
	Oh, well, I stepped into the position on October 7th at 10am because Boaz became the president of the university in September.
	We had spoken, I was going to take over, but I was only going to take over at the beginning of 2024.
	Oh, I didn't know he's the president.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yes, he's now the president of the university.
	He has the only private university with everything going on because most of the students are mobilized.
	Yeah.
	And none of the university, we haven't opened the school year.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's incredible.
	I'll have to text him after the show.
	That's amazing.
	He's doing amazing things.
	Good for him.
	Good for him.
	With your indulgence, if we may, we have Ambassador Friedman every week.
	We have my friend Tom Rose.
	If we could call upon you every couple of weeks, maybe that would be wonderful.
	I will be happy to try to do so.
	I mean, as you saw, just coordinating it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	60 seconds.
	standby.
	Thank you.
	And I'm sure it will.
	I'll see you later.
	I'm going to get some coffee.
	I'll be right back.
	I'm going to get some coffee.
	I'll be right back.
	I'm going to get some coffee.
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	There's this amazing organization, the International Center for Cateterism Research, In Herzliya, in Israel, part of the only private university there.
	And I used to go there with regularity for their September the 11th conference.
	Here's a photograph from seven years ago when I was with the Marine Corps.
	There's a good friend of mine.
	G-Man, you know who you are.
	And there's the title.
	What is the briefing I gave?
	Global Jihad 2.0, the evolution of ISIS.
	And I'm so glad to be connecting directly with the managing director, the new managing director, Colonel Retired We're being joined by Miri Eysen, formerly of the IDF.
	Colonel Eysen, let me ask you a It's not really an operational question in terms of military tactics and SOPs.
	It's more geopolitical.
	Here's a cut my producer found, a shocking cut, about October the 7th, which rightly we have to put into context as a continuing genocide.
	This is a student here in America from the University of Pennsylvania talking about October 7th.
	Cut 5.
	Play cut.
	Do you guys remember the photo of the kids and men laughing and smiling as they sat on top of the Israeli military jeep captured by our freedom fighters?
	Yes!
	Do you remember that picture?
	Yes!
	How about the photos of the bulldozer breaking through the deadly border?
	Do you remember that picture?
	Yes!
	And the several other joyful and powerful images which came from the glorious October 7th?
	Yes!
	I want you to picture those in your mind.
	I want you all to remember how you felt when you saw those images and heard the news.
	I remember feeling so empowered and happy, so confident that victory was near and so tangible.
	The glorious October 7th and our Hamas freedom fighters.
	When we see that in America, when we see Australians in Sydney scream, gas the Jews, when we see people here ripping down the posters of kidnapped children, take on October the 7th, How hard does that make it for you, for Israel, for the IDF to do what needs to be done?
	Does it matter?
	Can you just ignore it?
	What is the impact for you when you are getting justice for your citizens?
	First of all, there's an impact.
	But right now, Israel is inside a war zone.
	We have been at war.
	Hamas started their genocidal war on October 7th, and it wasn't over on October 7th.
	It's continuing every day.
	The sirens continue as we speak, and the fact that we have built so many defenses Iron Dome, Arrow, and as I'm sure you're aware, the Houthi Yemenites have fired against us in the last few days.
	Hezbollah is slowly upping up its own fight against us.
	So when we look and hear what's going on, and we understand that in the world today, on U.S.
	campuses, we are being blamed for what happened, It brings out the worst of the feelings in that sense, because at the end, for me as an Israeli, it's hardcore anti-Semitism.
	But I want to add in that this is part of the Hamas media manipulation plan.
	And this is something that they planned up front.
	I mentioned this before, but I'll just add in That when they did their atrocities on Saturday, October 7th, they filmed it.
	They went with GoPros.
	They were using the telephones of the murdered victims being tortured and uploading it in FaceTime, in Facebook, directly to the families.
	The atrocities are horrific!
	And then, on Saturday night, Hamas not only took it all down, but they have been telling a different story from October 7th in Arabic and to the world.
	And that's part of the media manipulation.
	It is incredibly scary.
	Because throughout these places, they think that there was this... that they only attacked... Again, just the dissonance is incredible.
	It's very hard for me as an Israeli.
	And, um, grown men came weeping out of the Knesset yesterday when the footage of a child being baked alive was shown to members of the Parliament.
	That's who we're fighting.
	It is a civilizational war.
	We have to stop the barbarians.
	God bless you.
	God bless the people of Israel.
	Colonel retired Miri Eisen, I hope you will be able to join us again.
	Managing Director of the International Institute for Counterterrorism.
	Please stay on the line for just a minute.
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	you.
	Line four.
	Hello?
	I guess it was.
	I guess the answer to that question is yes, it was the same loser.
	That's the best occurrence of nothing but that sound I have ever heard.
	Boop.
	Boop.
	We should make that a liner.
	Please do.
	Please do, Alex.
	Um, okay.
	Title four, The Colonel.
	There was a caller last week I asked that we turn into a line.
	Can you, can we do that, Alex?
	What was it?
	Was it merch?
	Was it a store?
	No.
	No, I don't remember what it was.
	Alex, do you remember?
	No, I don't.
	I vaguely, I thought I remembered that.
	Was it when Alex was gone?
	It might have been when Alex was gone, yeah.
	No.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Unless John remembers.
	No, I was just telling him I don't remember.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we did... We did Graham and Romney.
	We did the students.
	Cut five.
	We did Vance.
	We did Graham.
	We did Romney.
	We did... Did we do Nicky?
	No, we did not do Nicky, no.
	We did Vance.
	The caller's back.
	Oh, gimme four again.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hello, who's this?
	Yeah, hi, my name's Jim.
	Hi Jim, what's your question?
	What's your comment, Jim?
	What's your comment, Jim?
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	But thank you.
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	Go to hell.
	Bye-bye.
	You don't like America?
	Bye-bye.
	Was that the same guy trying to do a voice?
	or like the date.
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	Constitution, America first.
	Is it possible, is it possible that, um...
	Somebody was listening to our show yesterday, he's running for president, or is there just traction with the DeSantis lift stories?
	Jeff, what do you think?
	How come that, you know, they're asking Nikki Haley about high heels?
	Isn't that a bit funny?
	Yeah, they're gonna do anything they can to make fun of Ron DeSantis though.
	Oh really?
	It's like open season on Ron?
	Well he's such a threat, that's why.
	They're trying to stop him.
	So this is Charlemagne the God, who doesn't know how to spell, guest hosting on cable TV with Nikki Haley as the guest, asking a kind of loaded question given what happened with the governor of Florida.
	Let's play the cut.
	Are you wearing higher heels than Ron DeSantis next week at the debate so you can look taller than him on the stage?
	I don't know.
	We'll have to figure that out.
	I can tell you, I've always talked about my high heels.
	I've never hid that from anybody.
	I've always said, don't wear them if you can't run in them.
	So we'll see if he can run in them.
	We'll see if he can run in high heels.
	That's spicy.
	I'm not a fan of either of those people, but that's getting interesting.
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	Dr. G.
	Yeah.
	Permit me a moment of comic levity, but if Donald Trump were to declare his pronouns
	they them, couldn't he then run on the Democrat and Republican ticket?
	Oooh, I like the cut of your jib.
	I think he should mess with that idea just during a rally, that I'm they-them and you can call me zurrr and see whether he can run on both tickets.
	John, stay on the line.
	Let's get John one of our Trump 2024 mugs.
	Nicely done.
	Let's go to line two.
	Sean, New York City.
	Dr. Gene, long time.
	I have three things.
	One is levity, the other one is an idea for a t-shirt, and just some thoughts on rebutting the idea of the occupation.
	You know how they say it's an apartheid state and it's occupied land.
	So first, I'll be serious.
	They constantly say it's occupied.
	So if you go back to the Bible, if you go to Genesis, it actually says that the dimensions of ancient Israel were supposed to be from the river in Egypt.
	Yeah.
	the way to the Euphrates. So if we know geography, that would mean that the
	Right.
	eastern frontier of Israel would go into modern-day Iraq.
	So if anybody is occupying the land, under God's rules, it's the Arabs. And
	also the land originally is God's. He actually said that the Israelis
	were the tenants. He decided to give it to them. So it's nobody's land but God's,
	and he decided who he was going to give it to.
	That's the rebuttal for the occupation.
	Love it.
	Next.
	Go ahead, sir.
	No, no, next.
	You have three things.
	That's great.
	Next thing.
	T-shirt.
	So, you have a t-shirt, have the map of Israel, which includes the Palestinian territories, but it's all under the flag of Israel with the Star of David, and it says, one state solution, Israel from the river to the sea, Israel is for me.
	From the river to the sea, Israel is for me.
	I'm actually going to tell our merch guy.
	That's really good.
	Quickly, third thing.
	What's the third thing, Sean?
	So then a list of ideas for how we would rename Gaza after the Israeli army finishes it off.
	One, we could rename it Smithereens.
	Two, we could call it Gaza Gorge.
	Three, I like this one, we could call it gone.
	Four, Gaza Lagoon, you know, you pound it into the ground so deep that the Mediterranean comes in and it becomes a lagoon.
	Five, Gaza Caves.
	Six, great, a shout out to Tony the Tiger.
	And seven, Gaza Pits.
	You know, the sad thing is, Sean, it was some of the most beautiful real estate beachfront property and the Arabs The Palestinian Authority turned it into a hellhole.
	Sean, genius stuff.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give you one of the current t-shirts we have.
	It's President Trump, the only serving president to ever go to the temple wall with a very simple message in English and Hebrew.
	Our fight.
	SebGorkerStore.com.
	Sean gets his own.
	And we're going to send that design to Randy, our merch master, because that's good.
	All of our merchandise, S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
	Check it out today.
	Let's squeeze in one more call.
	Let's go to the tall grass.
	Somebody's peeking out from behind a blade.
	It's Ray in Livermore!
	Thank you, Dr. G. And thank you for your daily IDF reports and the progress.
	Yeah.
	these fine soldiers are making each day in one of the toughest battles that any
	Yes.
	soldier would have to go into. So this is a sort of Don Rumsfeld report.
	Remember he had his daily briefings? Yes. Those were wonderful and you're doing a
	great job with that too. Thank you sir. Thank you. I have a question but let me
	do a little bit first. When conservatives have rallies, patriot rallies or tea
	parties, they always go, oh that's AstroTurf, that's fake, it's all made up. But I'm
	looking at pictures in London and New York of thousands, literally a sea of the
	so-called Palestinian flags.
	Where did these flags come from?
	We've seen the trucks that unload these BLM pre-made placards and they pass them out for these fake BLM rallies.
	Who is buying these flags?
	Who's distributing these flags?
	Because I doubt they're coming out of the closets of Americans.
	You know, Ray, great minds think alike.
	I was thinking exactly the same thing two days ago when you see all of these Palestinian quote-unquote flags and I thought, I'm not sure there's a lot of those purveyors on Amazon so where on God's green earth are they coming from?
	Do you have a theory, Ray?
	Soros.
	His hand is on all of this stuff, and this man hates America, he hates civilization, he's the scorn of the devil himself, and that man can't die soon enough.
	And as a Christian, I know I'm not supposed to say and think this, but Damn the devil and damn his spawn!
	Well, let's listen to Elon Musk himself.
	Let's come in with that cut from yesterday where he talked about, he talked about Soros and his utter contempt, his hatred of humanity.
	We'll replay that for those of you who missed it.
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	Yeah, no, I just uploaded it on the TDPC, and then we actually, Garrett sent adapters to get video signal into it, but when I was doing some fiddling around with it, it actually already had video signal going into it, so.
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	Is that how we did Conricus?
	That was Quicklink, I thought.
	The other kernel?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Need a title for Aizen, by the way.
	Musk from yesterday.
	Something about the students, I guess?
	It wasn't just October 7th.
	straight to calls. Okay. For her... Yeah. Something about the students I guess? The cut? No no no no no.
	It wasn't just October 7th. It's a continual genocide.
	That is actually insane though, that UPenn video.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Because at first I thought, and I said this to a friend of mine, I'm like, at this point the left has kind of been pretending October 7th didn't happen, but then you see a video like that and they're like, oh no, we love that.
	Right, right.
	Oh boy.
	Alright, coming in with Musk from yesterday.
	Yep.
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	🎵 Outro Music 🎵 A-Ansaurus? I don't know, I mean, he had a very difficult
	upbringing, um, and- And in my opinion, he fundamentally hates humanity.
	That's my opinion.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I mean, well, he's doing things that erode the fabric of civilization.
	He fundamentally hates humanity.
	That's one of the most important people in the world today when it comes to influence and social media.
	That's Elon Musk saying Soros fundamentally hates humanity.
	Hard to disagree.
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	Because we are a Judeo-Christian civilization.
	My former boss President Trump understood that.
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	Your calls, line 4, Wendy, Louisville, Kentucky.
	Yes, I have.
	I have four suggestions for movies.
	All right, gotta be quick because we've got lots of callers.
	What are the suggestions, Wendy?
	Okay, Pride of the Yankees.
	Okay.
	Wait Until Dark.
	What's that one?
	Yes, you're breaking up.
	Wait Until Dark.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Go, okay.
	Rudy.
	Oh, Rudy.
	Have to review Rudy.
	I love that.
	Last one.
	And the last one.
	The Mouse That Roared.
	The Mouse That Roared.
	Classic.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you.
	I've written them down and definitely will get to Rudy.
	Let's go to Cheryl, California, line 5.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	First of all, I wanted to say God bless you.
	I'm sitting here with my mom.
	She's an almost 96-year-old Holocaust survivor.
	She was in Auschwitz and Geisling and liberated by the U.S.
	Army in Dachau.
	Wow.
	Mom, we have been on the Trump train since the moment he came down that beautiful escalator.
	That would have been my mom and dad's wedding anniversary.
	And so she looked at him on the TV and said, he will be our next president.
	And so I just want to say to all those people out there, Democrats and people who falsely called President Trump and his supporters, us, Nazis, that now you get to see what real Nazis are.
	When you see what Hamas is doing and has done, That's what the Nazis did.
	The only difference was that in Europe, they tried to hide it, just like the New York Times tried to bury it.
	But they're putting it out on their videos, and still people are questioning it.
	And the Democrats are supporting it, Cheryl.
	The Democrats are supporting it, like that video we just showed.
	What's your mother's first name, Cheryl?
	Her name is Piri.
	P-I-R-I.
	And if you look her up, Piri Katz, she is on YouTube.
	She's spoken.
	She was on... Alright, I want to talk to you guys.
	Stay on the line.
	God bless you.
	God bless your mother, Piri.
	What an amazing story.
	Yes, you're right.
	This is worse than the Nazis of yore because these guys aren't hiding it.
	And we have people here in America, in the Democrat Party, on student campuses who are helping them.
	The truth has come out about who the real Nazis are.
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	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Breaking news.
	Just received this from Mr. G. I think our in-studio guests may have a comment or two about it.
	This is from the Daily Wire.
	Chuck Schumer announces that the Senate won't even consider the House GOP Israel aid proposal.
	Do you think a senior advisor to President Trump My former colleague in the White House might have something to say about that.
	I think he might!
	He's in studio for once!
	Boris Epstein, welcome my friend to America First!
	It is a pleasure to be here.
	It's an honor to be here with you and the audience.
	And, you know, I was so happy this came together.
	I wasn't even supposed to be in town.
	Oh.
	And here I am.
	And you're not here tomorrow, I think, right?
	Right.
	And Mr. G said, hey, you're around.
	I said, you know what?
	I'm dropping everything.
	I'm coming over.
	So here I am.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Well, we love... To talk about, of course, Crying Chuck.
	Yeah, Crying Chuck and the anti-Semitism of the Democrat Party.
	Why would you block aid to Israel right now?
	I mean, is Ukraine okay, but Israel isn't?
	I'm confused.
	Here's what's interesting.
	So I actually had the honor of being at an event in the last two weeks.
	It was a bipartisan event, and, you know, for Israel, and it was for Chabad, and it was wonderful.
	And crying Chuck was actually there.
	Personally, he had, like, a lot of mental issues, and was forgetting his name, I think.
	But he was speaking, you know, I am for Israel, and I love Israel, because he's talking to a room full of Jews.
	But this is who he really is.
	You're right.
	This is who Democrats really are.
	They're not for Israel.
	They care about Ukraine.
	You know why?
	Because they're lining their own pockets with probably all kinds of kickbacks from over there.
	So they want to send $100 billion to Ukraine, and they can't send $14 billion to Israel, which is actually fighting terrorism over there.
	But hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I got the answer.
	Oh, it's because of the election, the 16th election!
	No, no, I've got an answer.
	If Hunter Biden gets a job in Israel, working for some oil company... Ways, or ways, maybe they could hire him.
	Right, and then, so, find a corrupt company, and then, suddenly, they'll want to give money, right?
	That's the problem, Israel doesn't have any companies that are nearly as corrupt as the ones who are hiring Hunter Biden.
	It'd be funny if it weren't sad.
	Yeah.
	And you know, when I saw the numbers, and I saw, you know, the $100 billion, I was like, okay, Ukraine, $70 billion.
	Sure.
	Whatever.
	Israel, $13.6 billion.
	$13.6 billion?
	That's all Israel asked for.
	They're not even asking for the big money.
	Wow.
	This is what we need right now to fight the greatest threat the state of Israel has ever had.
	Show us, since the Holocaust.
	The state of Israel, right?
	The state of Israel, right.
	Since the refoundings.
	This is the greatest threat to Jews since the Holocaust.
	The greatest threat to Israel since 1948.
	And I totally get it, right?
	People are mad and they say, well, how does this really relate to back home, right?
	The way it relates to back home is that if we're fighting Hamas over there and smashing
	Hamas and Hezbollah over there, we're smashing them and preventing them from coming over
	here, okay?
	And that is right now the absolute ground zero of the war on terrorism, of the war on
	everything that's evil about the world.
	And if you look at what was done in those kibbutzes, if you look at what was done to Israel, to those poor families, to the women and the grandmothers and the children.
	The babies.
	The babies, if you think that those same animals who did that in Israel don't want to do that to Americans, you're kidding yourselves.
	And that's why we've got to be doing it.
	And I understand people are saying, hey, this is a major conflict in Eastern Europe, we've got to be involved.
	People have their own perspectives.
	But the stakes are so much different.
	Between what's going on in Israel and what's going on in Eastern Europe.
	It's existential.
	Right.
	I know you're a historian, Boris.
	Are you also a bit of a philosopher?
	Sure, why not?
	Have you heard of Occam's Raisin?
	I have heard.
	Sometimes things are what they are.
	No, no.
	Occam's Raisin.
	Oh, raisin, not raisor.
	No, no.
	Occam's Raisin.
	No.
	But I love raisins.
	Well, clearly you're not as intelligent as Eric Swalwell.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because he's going to tell us about... You mentioned Russia.
	He was going to be president, I think.
	Oh yes, that one, that guy.
	He wanted to talk about Putin and Russia and he used Occam's Raisin.
	I can tell you, as a son of two Republicans who was raised in the Ronald Reagan era, who believed we had to be strong in the cold war to defeat Russia, it's very simple.
	It's Occam's Razor.
	The simplest explanation is the correct one, which is, Putin likes Trump.
	Trump likes Putin.
	Russia helped Trump in the 2016 election.
	Okay.
	We have to help Russia.
	that that's as simple as it is.
	Is that election denial?
	Is it like Hillary?
	What is this Occam's raising?
	What's this guy talking about?
	I think they gotta put him in jail and solitary confinement.
	And he's got his problems with his stomach, so it may be bad for him in there.
	Indeed, indeed.
	Not very...
	The guy's an idiot.
	The guy's always been an idiot.
	He testified in that Colorado lawsuit on the 14th amendment, that nonsense.
	He's an embarrassment to the house.
	And it's not just that he's stupid, he's also corrupt.
	Now, did he simulcast that in Mandarin?
	Oh, so Fang Fang.
	Right.
	Troy Nels calls it Bang Bang, right?
	But in all seriousness, this is a Democrat member of Congress.
	He's corrupt, he is absolutely deranged, and he's evil.
	But don't forget his parents were Republicans, so Occam's raisin.
	Occam's raisin.
	So Occam's golden raisin.
	Let's talk about the race for the presidency.
	There's a race?
	Don't be so difficult.
	The putative, the alleged race, the ostensible race.
	There's somebody called the governor of Florida called Ron DeSantis.
	Oh, DeSantis!
	He's a lawyer, aren't you a lawyer?
	I'm a lawyer.
	Okay, so let's get his legal take on what the president is facing now in New York and D.C.
	and everywhere else.
	This is Ron DeSantis on, of course, MSNBC of all places, because that's where conservatives go.
	Cut to.
	And you did say, Governor, at that August debate, when the question was put to the entire panel, if Donald Trump is convicted, and he is the nominee, would you still support him?
	And you raised your hand.
	You're a lawyer.
	You've served in the Navy.
	You were well-trained at the greatest schools.
	Do you really believe that a man who's convicted of, say, attempting to overturn the 2020 election or taking nuclear secrets back to his beach club, do you actually still, as we sit here today, believe that person should be president?
	So I signed a pledge, Willie, and that pledge is what it is.
	Now, do I think somebody under those circumstances could get elected president?
	The answer is no.
	That will not happen.
	I think that Republican voters will understand that as we get closer to voting, but it would be fatal in a general election.
	I don't think the party should nominate in that situation.
	I'm no lawyer, but I've got two comments there, Barron.
	Number one, I thought he was a prosecutor in the military.
	Therefore, somebody should remind him of the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
	And then the other thing at the beginning, which is a kind of tell, it was a pledge.
	But I guess it's not an important pledge.
	Or pledges are fungible, Baron?
	Well, you're not a lawyer, and I'm not a makeup artist.
	But he's got to fire his makeup artist.
	That looks like Rhonda St.
	Timothy's grandfather up there.
	He didn't look good.
	She aged like 50 years.
	What happened to her?
	That's what happens when you go up against President Donald J. Trump.
	Who looks younger at the end of four years.
	Who's doing the full Benjamin Button?
	Benjamin Button!
	Right, right, right, right.
	And then it gets even better.
	This is just 16 seconds long.
	This is when there's a bit of projection here.
	Why is he in MSNBC?
	Well that's the question!
	He wants a job!
	He wants a job, right?
	Cup three.
	I'm participating in this process.
	I've got the plan to win.
	We're going to win.
	At the same time, it's like you can't just take your ball and go home.
	You can't on the one side of your mouth say the country's in decline,
	Biden's failing, and on the other hand say, you know, I'm just going to pout if things don't go my way.
	Who's pouting the most?
	He's the guy pouting!
	That's called projection.
	He's pouting.
	He's very upset.
	He's got the boots.
	Listen.
	Politico.
	Not the Washington Examiner.
	Not Breitbart.
	Politico did a story about him wearing lifts in his boots.
	Okay?
	This guy's been just annihilated and exposed for being who he is.
	For being on MSNBC.
	For being a complete and total establishment writer.
	Yes.
	That's just who he is.
	So when does he just pull the plug on it like Pence?
	I'm hearing that his consultants are going around absolutely trashing him, saying that he's terrible, that it's all his fault.
	I mean, look at the numbers.
	His biggest backers were going to back him, then not, and now they're saying they're never going to back him.
	He should get out now.
	In all seriousness, I know we love to make fun of the guy that's got an easy fodder on the sanctimonies.
	If he wants any chance to have a future in politics, he needs to sit down right now, today, November 2nd, sharpen his number two pencil, and write a note.
	I, Governor of Florida, withdraw from the race and wholeheartedly back and support and endorse President Donald J. Trump for the presidency.
	Okay, I know you're a historian, you're a lawyer.
	I'm going to ask you to be a bookie now.
	The odds of that?
	I'm a lot of things.
	I'm not a book... The odds of him doing it anytime soon are very low.
	Very low.
	You know why?
	Because he doesn't get it.
	And it's obvious he doesn't get it.
	It's not beyond that.
	It's not about not getting it.
	I don't think he's a man of honor.
	After the bragging... He's probably not a man of honor.
	You'd have to be a man of honor to say, I was wrong.
	I apologize.
	I endorse the president.
	Please, follow this man.
	That went far too quickly.
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	You You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka,
	former Strategist to President, Donald J Trump.
	You heard that breaking news in the last segment about how Chuck Schumer is blocking the GOP aid to Israel package.
	Unbelievable.
	This is how the Democrats in the House are spinning it.
	Of course it's MSNBC.
	This is Dan Goldman just lying about it.
	Cut.
	Six.
	Play cut.
	Well, not the way that the Republicans are doing it, that's for sure.
	They are trying for the first time ever to condition emergency aid to Israel, and in fact to any country that we provide emergency aid to, on some sort of other offset or requirement.
	And in this case, and I thought Joe put it so well the other day, It's to protect billionaires.
	And I know for Republicans, this may seem like a political game.
	But I can tell you, for those of us who are Jewish in America and around the world, this is no game.
	This is an existential fight for the existence of Israel.
	And it is shameful that the Republicans are playing political games when we need to be unified behind Israel.
	There are more than 400 members of the House.
	Who would support a straight Israel aid package.
	But because of this political gamesmanship, the Republicans are trying to set a terrible precedent and use Israel as a political ploy.
	So tying Israeli aid to aid for Ukraine, that's not a political ploy, is it, Dan Goldman?
	We see straight through you, as does the man responsible for covering the swamp.
	He is the bureau chief of that conservative juggernaut that is brightenedupbar.com.
	And we welcome him to the show every week.
	Matt Boyle, welcome back!
	Yeah, Dr. G, great to be here.
	Always a pleasure.
	So tell us about all your predictions from a week ago that have come to fruition.
	Talk to us about how the new speaker is doing.
	Give us a grade for the last week since we spoke.
	Well, look, he's learning on the job, right?
	Like, so I think that he's still got a very uphill climb here to continue to learn how to do things.
	Look, if they had just done a Just Israel Aid thing without this IRS stuff on it, right?
	Like, which was never going to make it through the Senate anyway.
	Dan Goldman's probably right in that they would get 400 votes for it and then they would be able to effectively sever The Ukraine from the Israel aid thing, which is what the White House in the swamp over in the Senate wants, right?
	Like, so that was kind of a rookie mistake from Speaker Johnson.
	And look, I don't, I still think that thing's going to pass, but it's going to be a lot slimmer of a passage vote out of the House and again, stand zero chance in the Senate.
	If he had just done a just straight up aid to Israel thing, then without the IRS offset cuts thing, then it probably would have sailed through the House with 400 votes and they would have jammed the Senate and the White House and then you would be talking about how Speaker Johnson has the Senate and the White House on their back heels, right?
	And that's not the case right now.
	They're gonna barely get this thing through the House if they get it through at all and And whatnot.
	And look, to be fair to Speaker Johnson, it's a lot to learn and a lot to do very quickly.
	So, you know, he's got time, but not much time, right?
	Like, because there are major pressing crises that we got to do.
	The vast majority of members of both parties, by the way, and again, Goldman's right in this respect, will support aid to Israel, right?
	Like, that's different than Ukraine aid.
	Ukraine aid is a much different type of a situation.
	than the Israel aid, right? So how you approach these things and how you learn how to do that
	stuff, that's going to be the tests that he faces. How does he handle spending bill fights, right?
	Like, and so what I was telling you last week is, is that he's going to do a CR. Like the idea that
	there's not going to be a CR is nonsense. A continual resolution, yep. They're going to do a CR and it's
	going to fund the government.
	The question is whether they go until January or whether they go until April.
	And a lot of people are thinking January is the better choice because it creates an earlier deadline and more urgency for them to force them to try to get the appropriation stuff going.
	But the idea that we weren't going to do a CR, no, I mean, come on.
	Congressman Gates is wrong in that regard, right?
	But the fact is, is that they're going to do it.
	And the speakers out there now publicly talking about this.
	He talked to the Senate about it the other day.
	So how you approach these things and how you handle these very serious things that lay before the country are going to be the test that he goes through as he goes through the speakership.
	And there's a lot more than that that he's going to have to deal with very quickly.
	So as he's going through these, you know, primary tribulations, these initial tests, you have the best sources in DC.
	What are you hearing from the GOP side?
	What are they saying about this first few days of this new Speaker?
	What is the measure of their response to the new person in charge?
	Well look, there's a lot of people giving him a lot of leeway, and they're letting him learn on the job as he goes through these things like this Israel thing.
	A lot of people behind the scenes will talk about how it's a mistake, like I just kind of laid out for you there, because they're not getting that through the Senate, and they know that.
	Right.
	And by the way, it's worth noting that came right after he met with Mitch McConnell, right?
	Which, okay, fine.
	The Speaker has to go meet with Mitch McConnell.
	The Speaker has to go to the White House and take those meetings because that's his job.
	He's the representative of the House Republicans in the full House of Representatives.
	So that's understandable.
	But, you know, maybe McConnell played him in that meeting, right?
	Like and talked him into doing this because he knew what would happen on the back end.
	And so the point here is, is that there are a lot of things that he's going to have to learn very quick.
	Welcome to the National Football League, Mr. Speaker.
	This is the big leagues, baby.
	You want to win these things, you've got to listen to the right people.
	And I don't think the right people are necessarily in his ear right now.
	That needs to change.
	There are some good signs, there are some bad signs.
	So who are the wrong people?
	Are you talking about the establishment people?
	I'm talking about McConnell.
	I'm talking about people around McConnell.
	I'm talking about certain, you know, there was talk that he had put Dan Crenshaw, he actually said this in his first interview as Speaker of the House when he went on Sean Hannity's program, and he talked about how he put Dan Crenshaw, among others, in charge of Ukraine-aid questions to the White House.
	And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Like, you know, I mean, Dan Crenshaw may have... That's like a rookie mistake.
	It's a rookie mistake, right?
	Like, so it's like, look, there's still a lot of hope for this guy and we see the financial reports.
	He's the only person who went to Congress that didn't go there to get rich, right?
	Like, it's actually kind of great.
	And the mainstream media are saying he's too poor to be Speaker.
	That's fantastic.
	That's his best quality.
	What are you talking about, right?
	But the point here is that, alright, there's some good signs and there's some bad signs, right?
	Like, I've seen this stuff about how he's hired this guy Raj Shah.
	Raj Shah is a good guy, right?
	I've known Raj for many years.
	He was a comms guy at Fox News that worked mostly on the Tucker profile there.
	And he's friends with a lot of the right people.
	So that's a good thing, right?
	But then there's, again, some of these major governance steps and whatnot that you gotta, how are you going to deal with impeachment, right?
	Like, I don't know the answer to that question right now.
	How are you going to do this?
	Like, all of these things are things that he's got to get sorted and he's going to get sorted out real fast.
	By the way, there's still some deep divisions in the conference, right?
	How are we going to, are we going to keep the majority?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	We'll leave that for the next segment.
	We need to map out the deep divisions inside the conference.
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	sebastiangorka.substack.com chasm she has to bridge
	How do you keep both the Speaker and the Majority Leader both from Louisiana?
	What are they going to do about that?
	That's something he's going to have to broach.
	He doesn't have to do it today, but probably by the end of the year.
	What are they going to do with the 25 Republicans who voted against Jim Jordan three times on the House floor?
	They voted against the conference.
	Normally that means you don't get to serve on an A committee.
	So what are you going to do about that?
	How are they going to balance the two different sides?
	I mean, look, we just saw this fight play out last night on the floor where they tried to do these censure resolutions back and forth at each other.
	You had the MTG one about to leave and then you had the other ones trying to go after Santos.
	It's like, what are you going to do?
	How do you handle all this stuff?
	And so today, I am proud to announce the Biden-Harris administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to counter Islamophobia.
	Yeah, that's really good.
	Play me cut four.
	And so today I am proud to announce the Biden-Harris administration will develop our nation's first national
	strategy to counter Islamophobia.
	This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim from hate,
	bigotry and violence.
	And to address the concern that some government policies may discriminate against Muslims.
	Yeah, right.
	I just sent you an image, Eric.
	Go ahead, Matt.
	Yeah, I would just say I hope that Speaker Johnson never wears high heels.
	Men don't wear high heels.
	We're learning how that works for Governor DeSantis.
	Even if they're hidden inside cowboy boots?
	Even if they're hidden inside cowboy boots.
	You can't do it, Mr. Speaker.
	Never wear high heels.
	I don't care how tall you are.
	Embrace it.
	I would say one more thing, despite loving cowboy boots with my jeans on the weekend, don't do a Santorum, don't do a DeSantis, don't wear cowboy boots with a suit.
	I'm sorry.
	Just put on the dress shoes, bro.
	Right, come on.
	President Trump, I've never seen, except on the golf course, I've never seen President Trump except in a suit with dress shoes.
	Right.
	By the way, I've met Ron DeSantis in person many times back when he was incarcerated.
	Is he really six foot five?
	He is not 5'11".
	He is 5'7", maybe 8".
	Right?
	Like, so, I'm 5'11".
	He's shorter than me by several inches.
	Like, it's just, it's such a lie.
	Like, why would you lie about that?
	It's sociopathic.
	Cause you're compensating.
	You're compensating.
	Sociopathic.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	It's creepy.
	All right.
	60 seconds.
	Standby.
	Warim's asking which topics you want to hit tonight.
	Um... Let me... And a title for Boris as well.
	And a title for Boris.
	I've got that picture.
	The one.
	Good.
	Send, uh, send... Oh, it's Cameron, right?
	Uh, yes.
	Alright, I'll text them what I want to talk about.
	Cameron, and Natalie... What are we coming with on the top here?
	Hang on, can you...
	Oh, no.
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	Matt, you were talking in the end of the last segment about the things that need to be fixed, the issues that are burning inside the conference for the GOP under the new Speaker.
	Just mention a couple of them, would you?
	Yeah, look, you've got a majority leader and a Speaker of the House from the same state right now, Louisiana.
	Maybe you're going to be okay for the time being, but eventually this too shall not pass.
	Eventually something's going to have to give there and you're going to have to see a change.
	I doubt that members from other major states across the country or anywhere else but Louisiana Republicans are going to be okay with Louisiana having that level of influence over the House Republican Conference.
	No offense to the great people of Louisiana.
	We love the people of Louisiana.
	I think they're the best.
	It's one of the best states in the country.
	But the point is that you're going to have to balance that out.
	And in addition to that, you had 25 Republicans vote three times on the House floor against the wishes of the House Republican Conference.
	And that was when Jim Jordan was being considered for Speaker.
	Many of them sit on A committees.
	We've talked about this back during the Jordan thing, right?
	Many of them are on the Appropriations Committee.
	How can they be in charge of that?
	Now, in addition to that... But let's stop on this one.
	This is important.
	So what can you envisage?
	If they did that to Jim Jordan, what happens to them?
	Or what should happen?
	Well, look, I think they should be stripped off of their A committees, right?
	But at the very least, Congresswoman Kay Granger, who is currently the chairwoman of the House Appropriations Committee, and she was one of the leaders of this whole insurgency, the intransigence is what I call them, against Jim Jordan.
	She shouldn't be the chairwoman of the Appropriations Committee.
	She just announced yesterday she's not running for re-election.
	By the way, two of the 25 are already not running for re-election.
	Her and Ken Buck from Colorado.
	The fact is is that if, and I expect that number to go up significantly from inside that 25, but the question is is that again if you're not running for re-election and you're a lame duck this far out from the election, more than a year from election day next year, how can you chair the Appropriations Committee and be an honest steward of our tax dollars?
	That's a serious question, and I think the Speaker's going to have to answer these things in the coming days and weeks ahead, and he's going to have to be prepared to deal with this stuff and the impeachment battles and so many more things ahead.
	Well, I have a friend of mine who's going to run for that seat in Colorado.
	We'll be talking to her next week, and I'm super excited.
	I just want to talk about another race in a very important tweet, a truth from our former colleague, our former boss, Steve Bannon.
	Let's put it up on the screen.
	The great Matt Boyle of Breitbart, one of the original deplorables, must primary John Rutherford in Florida Five.
	Boyle is original MAGA, one of the best and brightest of the Trump movement, and this is the best part, the only man on earth to survive working for, Tucker Carlson, Andrew Breitbart, and Steve Bannon.
	Draft Matt Boyle!
	Your reaction, Matt Boyle?
	Yeah, look, I've had tons of people from across the district.
	I live here in Northeast Florida, in John Rutherford's district.
	He's one of those 25 that blocked Jim Jordan.
	Three separate times on the floor.
	I've had a lot of people calling me, asking me to do it.
	I'm definitely hearing them out.
	We'll see where it goes.
	It's a huge decision, and I'll tell you this, if I ever did it, I'm running to win.
	I don't need to build a brand.
	I have a brand right like I if I'm gonna do it I would win but it's a huge
	decision I don't know if I would do that next year I know that there's so few
	people out here in the media that actually tell the truth and you know
	we've got a major election ahead of us too so there's a lot to consider we'll
	see where it goes But I will say this, Congressman Rutherford needs to go.
	He's one of the most corrupt people I've ever looked into in Congress.
	I never really even looked into him until this whole thing.
	And the things that I found are very troubling.
	And there are major ethics issues and whatnot that need to be exposed.
	And again, Speaker Johnson is going to have to confront this stuff and deal with it head on.
	And I hope that they do.
	But, you know, there's a lot to think about here, and we'll see where Let's see where it goes.
	He doesn't need to build a brand.
	He is his own brand.
	He is the deplorable MAGA Breitbart correspondent par excellence.
	Follow him, all of his writings at Breitbart.com and on Truth Social at Real Matt Boyle.
	I would love to see you run.
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	How much did you know about Hamas a month ago?
	How much do you know about it now?
	And why are civilians dying in Gaza?
	Here is an IDF video that helps you understand who these savages are.
	Cut 13.
	We need to talk about civilians in Gaza.
	Every aspect of life in Gaza is dictated by and endangered by Hamas.
	Hamas indoctrinates civilian children in terrorist training camps.
	Hamas seizes civilian humanitarian resources to make rockets that they fire from civilian neighborhoods.
	Hamas deliberately embeds itself under and inside civilian homes, schools, and mosques, desecrating these spaces by turning them into legitimate military targets.
	Hamas mercilessly uses civilians as pawns to carry out their stated goal.
	We should attack every Jew in the world.
	We are the Jews!
	We are the Jews!
	Hamas put the civilians they are responsible for in danger when Hamas started this war against Israel.
	Hamas, the genocidal terrorist organization, is responsible for everything that happens in Gaza.
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	I was in California last week as you heard.
	I had a guest host in.
	I had the great Bob France and I was in Monterey.
	Then I went to San Mateo where I met with a group of real patriots.
	An amazing group.
	It was the Reagan-Lincoln dinner.
	There I am at the back and it's all thanks to Anna Chang-Kramer, our host.
	Thank you for inviting me, Anna.
	And one of the candidates that I met out in California who impressed me is Tony Virueta, who's running for the State Senate in District 17.
	And we've invited him on the show.
	Tony, welcome to America First!
	Good afternoon, Doctor.
	So tell us a little bit about yourself.
	You're talking to about three and a half million people across the nation, many, many in California.
	So what has Tony Virueta done in his life?
	Well, thank you, Doctor.
	Tony Virueta is a patriot.
	I was born and raised right here in Monterey County.
	At 18 years old, I followed my brother's footstep and served my country proudly as an Army Ranger.
	I've learned, I know what it's like to struggle.
	I know what it's like to fight.
	And now that I have the energy, the timing is now to bring the fight to California.
	To take back California.
	I have a family.
	So tell us why you're not just, you know, living the good life with your family.
	What made you decide that, you know, what was it, something in Monterey?
	What, what, what triggered you to say, okay, I've, I've been a soldier.
	I've worn the cloth of the Republic, but that's not enough.
	You know, the first thing, the foremost is my family.
	I think about my family and my community.
	I have six grandchildren.
	They're going to be our future and setting up a future for them.
	Right now, California, it's flat out out of control with inflation.
	My daughter, who moved to Texas because of California, she's paying $2.35 a gallon for gas.
	I filled my tank up yesterday at $7 a gallon.
	Crazy.
	You know, that's one thing.
	Crime over here with AB 109, Proposition 47, it's empowering the criminals.
	It's making these streets unsafe.
	For our families as well.
	We need to make it safe for everyone.
	My grandkids, I think about that as well.
	Lastly, and most importantly, is thinking about our future is education.
	What's being taught to our children?
	What rights do our parents have?
	Not taking away those rights.
	Making sure that what's being taught is taught specifically by mom and dad, not necessarily by the administrators there.
	The website is TonyForSenate.com.
	That's the number for Tony, the number for Senate.com.
	The social media account is TonyForSenate.
	Tony, tell us how crucial it is and what message you have Thank you.
	the Hispanic community. One of our hosts out there in Monterey, David Drew, talked about
	how this could be the real secret weapon because the Hispanic community has our values and
	they've had enough. So talk to us about whether it's true and what your strategy is.
	Thank you. A big part of my campaign is out there talking and listening. You know, talking
	and listening to the community.
	I go out into certain parts of Salinas, bilingual, I speak to the Latinos in Spanish, and they have conservative values.
	They're registered Democrats, for what reason, I don't know.
	But when you talk to them, they have a lot more similarities than differences.
	They want to live the American dream.
	They don't want handouts.
	They just want to work.
	Now, capturing that vote's important.
	You know, I'm the face of this community.
	The good news is District 17 now is heavily populated by Latinos.
	That's going to be a primary part of my market.
	But the key thing is getting them out there and voting.
	And tell us right now, if somebody's undecided, if they're in your district, a 17th, if you just walked up to them, you had 30 seconds, what would you say to them, Tony?
	And doctor, that's easy.
	And I asked the same question to many of them.
	I asked him simply, are you happy the way California is right now?
	Are you happy that 45 minutes down the road in San Francisco, the way it is?
	Are they happy with inflation?
	Are they happy with the interest rates?
	Are they happy with crime?
	Every single one of them will say no.
	I will try to make that difference in Sacramento.
	I will be their voice.
	So it's a simple leveling ground to just ask them if they're happy.
	None of them are.
	You know, unfortunately, some of them have to live two to three families in one dwelling just to make rent, just to make mortgage.
	So that's how I would capture their attention right away, sir.
	God bless you.
	And to those out there, even in California or in other, you know, Democrat strongholds like Massachusetts, if they're considering doing what you're doing, if they're considering running for office, what would you say to them, you crazy man?
	I'd say the time is now.
	The time is right now.
	I have the energy.
	You have the motivation.
	You see what's happening in this country.
	We can't let it go any farther.
	You know, I'm building a strong ground game.
	That's what we talked about, doctor, is building a strong ground game and coming after it, showing strong in the primaries.
	In March.
	And at the same time I'm in full fundraising mode.
	Obviously there's my website.
	But it takes an army.
	It takes an army in the ground game to beat my incumbent.
	The time is now.
	Very simple message.
	Follow this man, support him.
	The social media account is Tony4Senate.
	That's Tony, the number for Senate.
	And you can find out more at his webpage, Tony4Senate.com.
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	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Social media is such a flippin cesspit.
	But sometimes you find stuff that's really important.
	This guy is Elliot Tabella and he's an American Jew.
	And he went undercover at a Free Palestine rally.
	And you need to see this and hear what they said to him.
	Cut 14.
	I'm a Jew going undercover at a Free Palestine rally to see what could really happen.
	How would you describe a Jew?
	They're devils.
	Who's at fault?
	The Jews.
	The Jews.
	Always been a problem.
	So if they do take Palestine, where do the 12 million Jews go?
	Go to hell.
	That's the literal slogan.
	Free, free Palestine!
	Free, free Palestine!
	Okay, if we free Palestine, where do the Jews go?
	Hey, go back to Brooklyn!
	The Hamas group, the action they've taken, it's not a terrorist attack?
	I am queer for Palestine, yes.
	What do you think about the argument when people are saying in Gaza they kill gay people?
	It's very unsafe to be queer here too.
	They're not actually killing gay people for being gay by law, right?
	The way it is in Gaza?
	Why do we keep going back to, like, Gaza?
	Why is there such a basis for them to have a homeland?
	Nobody else has a homeland.
	Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
	My family's from Afghanistan.
	And Afghanistan, by the way, so that's a Muslim country, right?
	Predominantly, yes.
	So would you consider that your homeland?
	Yes.
	So I guess I do have a claim over that, but you can't claim Israel.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Oh, Afghanis can have a homeland, but Jews can't.
	That's so weird.
	Why are Jews the only people who can't have a homeland?
	Stinking racists, anti-Semites.
	And I love the gaze for Gaza.
	Go over there.
	Give it a try, my friend.
	So this is the anti-Semites.
	Less than 3% of the American population are Jews, and it makes up 60% of the hate crimes.
	But what does Biden do?
	What does Kamala do?
	Have a guess.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Cut 4.
	And so today, I am proud to announce the Biden-Harris administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to counter Islamophobia.
	This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim from hate, bigotry, and violence, and to address the concern that some government policies may discriminate against Muslims.
	If we win the election, that's the first piece of paper I'm going to rip up.
	60% of hate crimes are against Jews, and so Biden...
	Launches a national strategy to counter Islamophobia, as people are screaming on the streets of Manhattan, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
	That's genocidal, that is.
	If you stand with the President, if you understand this is a civilizational war, this is the latest thing we've put on our website, it's the President At the Temple Wall in Jerusalem, the only serving president to go there with the same pulled message in English and Hebrew.
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	Tell the world you understand.
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	Can this war be solved without dealing with Iran?
	And why?
	Why is Biden on the side of the murderous Mullahs in Tehran?
	We'll get all the answers next on a very special One on One.
	Stay on this channel.
	Stay with us for more one-on-one in the manhood hour with Sheriff Mark Lamb.
	We'll be back with the Manhood Hour and Sheriff Lamb after these messages.
	Stay with us for more from the Manhood Hour and our special guest, Sheriff Mark Lamb.
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	First there's one condition One condition for anything that could happen and the good things that could happen once this war is over.
	And that condition is that Hamas must be destroyed.
	Hamas must be destroyed.
	The Prime Minister of Israel, Bibi Netanyahu, a former combatant commander.
	Question.
	Can it be destroyed?
	And if it is destroyed, will Israel be safe?
	Very few people could answer those questions with more accuracy than a former colleague of mine at an institution I had hoped would have gone out of business long ago, especially after we got rid of ISIS in the Trump administration.
	Sadly, It is more relevant than ever.
	It is the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, and he is their Senior Vice President for Research, Jonathan Shanza.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thanks, Seb.
	Good to be with you.
	Thanks for coming to the studio.
	Truly appreciate it.
	All right.
	First, again, I wish to put this always in context.
	Put the events of October 7th into the correct context.
	When we say Israel's 9-11, when we say, or they say, no loss of life for the Jewish community this large since the end of the show of the Holocaust, this isn't hyperbole, this isn't exaggeration, is it Jonathan?
	It's not.
	When you think about the losses that we sustained on 9-11, we lost nearly 4,000 people that day.
	You look at it on a per capita basis, right?
	Israel is a country of 10 million people.
	They lose 1,400 people in a slaughter, a pogrom, in just a few hours.
	If you extrapolate that, you put in a per capita basis that's the equivalent of us losing 44,000 people.
	Everyone in Israel knows someone who was either killed or impacted in some way.
	It is a shock to the conscience of this country.
	I watch their media on a regular basis and they are constantly rehashing what happened.
	It is a deep scar and it is bringing up old injuries from decades past and you can just get a sense of how that might start to impact the thinking of this country.
	Are you surprised that the, it's not being called the ground incursion, it's phase two, but are you surprised it took several weeks for the administration to deploy ground assets into Gaza for what are called the shaping manoeuvres?
	Is this a surprise to observers?
	Look, I think it's a little surprising in the sense that you would expect Israel to go in there right away and just dispatch their enemies.
	I think there were a couple things that were at play here.
	One is the Israelis were actually wondering whether there was a trap, whether Hamas had invited them in.
	you carry out a slaughter the way they did on 10-7, it could create a situation where the Israelis go in
	and they're just heads down and try to destroy their enemies.
	And then all of a sudden, they find that there are other surprises that Iran
	has helped Hamas prepare.
	So there was that part of it.
	And then there's also the kind of regional alignment challenge.
	The Israelis were right on the cusp of normalization They've got relationships with the Emiratis, with the Bahrainis, the Moroccans, the Egyptians, the Jordanians.
	There was a lot of discussion that led up to the invasion of Gaza.
	And then there's the last point, which I think is probably maybe even the most important.
	There is this question of if Israel deploys, let's say, 100,000 troops into Gaza, is that the exact moment that Hezbollah begins to wage war from another front, pulling Israel in two different directions, catching Israel flat-footed?
	And so this has, I think, been the major concern.
	And actually, to that point, there is a major speech coming from Hezbollah's Director General or Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah.
	It's been scheduled now for five days, and it will be delivered.
	In the stronghold of Beirut that belongs to Hezbollah, Dahiya, he will be doing it in front of thousands of his supporters.
	And this could be the moment where Hezbollah declares war.
	It could be the moment they stand down.
	But this has always been something that Israel's been concerned about, a two-front war.
	How significant is it that that speech will be made in Beirut?
	Obviously significant.
	Dahiya is the stronghold.
	It's this neighborhood in southern Beirut.
	It's where it's almost entirely Shia, Iran supporters, Hezbollah supporters.
	This is the moment, probably the most important speech of Hassan Nasrallah's career.
	He's been at this job now for decades.
	But this is the moment, I think, of truth in terms of whether Hezbollah is truly ready
	to wage this fight to the finish against Israel or if he's going to back down.
	Of course, American aircraft carriers and 4,000 Marines will be weighing on his mind
	as he delivers this speech, and that could be the deterrence that's needed.
	We're going to devote a special segment of today's one-on-one to understanding Hezbollah
	and the difference with Hamas, but let's just stay on October 7th for a second, Jonathan.
	It's very difficult to channel, to put ourselves in the savage minds of the people who are running Hamas, but what do you think was the key strategic motivator for the 7th?
	Was it really to sabotage the normalization of Israel's relations with Saudi Arabia, or
	is it something else or a combination of things?
	Look, I think it was an added benefit, the disruption of the normalization channel.
	I think that, you've got to remember, for Hamas, the first order of business is just
	being able to shed Israeli blood.
	Yeah, kill Jews.
	That's the game for them.
	People, I think, often forget that when Hamas fires rockets into Israel, which they've done on multiple rounds of fighting with Israel, the intent is to do exactly what they were able to do on 10-7.
	Israel just has the technological means to thwart those attacks time and again, but if those rockets actually landed in Israel every time they were fired, and I think that was Hamas's intent always, that you would see a lot more bloodshed.
	They're fired blindly into the population.
	Yeah, they aren't guided, these are tubes with explosives on them.
	Correct.
	With the intent of hurting whatever you can on the other side, civilian, military infrastructure,
	it doesn't matter, right?
	But the big thing that I've been focusing on at the beginning of that war, or of this
	war, is that there was a massive intelligence failure on the part of Israel.
	Well, and US, because we have, we spend, you know, a lot more money on intelligence than
	Israel does, and we didn't see it either.
	Correct.
	But what the paradigm was, was this assumption that Hamas was deterred.
	that the leaders of Hamas were maybe more eager to provide services to the people,
	that they were perhaps interested in trying to export their violence to the West Bank.
	Hang on, is this misreading on behalf of the Bibi administration?
	Yeah.
	They really thought that these were like normal guys who are going to feed the population.
	Somewhere along the way, groupthink crept into the Israeli intelligence establishment.
	I can tell you I've heard the briefing twice from senior Israeli officials over the last year that this is going to be a calm front for Israel for the foreseeable future, that there were pragmatists who were afraid of Israel after the last round of fighting in 2021.
	You mean the caste-led?
	No, the 2021 war.
	Oh, 21.
	Yeah.
	And, right, this was the 11-day war that... So the savage animals suddenly weren't savage animals.
	Correct.
	Well, that's very disturbing.
	If the Israelis thought that, that's a problem.
	Correct.
	And so this was... It was a two-year-long operation of trying to convince the Israelis that Hamas was not genocidal in its intent.
	And the Israelis somehow, somewhere along the way, began to take that on as fact.
	And they decided to deploy assets and other...
	It's one of the reasons why you didn't see as many troops on the border
	as we might normally see on the morning of 10th.
	I have to...
	It's one thing to have Mark Milley talk about why it's good to teach critical race theory at West Point,
	but to hear, you know, the Israeli intelligence community surrounded by people who want to kill them,
	fighting an organization that its founding document is very clear,
	is there to destroy, you know, the Jewish community as a whole.
	Any idea, Jonathan, where that insanity crept in from?
	Did they get it from us?
	Did they get it from the Biden administration?
	What's the genesis?
	I think there's two things here.
	One is Israel has been restrained time and again by the U.S.
	administrations.
	And look, I'll say it's Democrat and Republican, let's be honest here, on a bipartisan basis.
	We would much rather not see wars escalate the way they are right now.
	So we've done everything we could to kick the can down the road.
	Democrat and Republican have done that, right?
	I think had Israel had its way early on, they would have destroyed Hamas When they had a better chance of doing it without the organization having dug hundreds of miles of tunnels beneath the ground in Gaza.
	But we've restrained them.
	I think there's also a military culture problem that is conveyed from our military to theirs.
	We always tell our enemies we're so strong we don't need to fight.
	And the Israelis were learning that as well.
	We can't afford to hold off on this battle because we're stronger than they are and we'll always be able to defeat them.
	But that only works if you're facing a rational actor who isn't religiously motivated.
	Exactly.
	If I give you, like, a box of my book, Defeating Jihad, will you get some to the IDF and to the intelligence?
	I'm not sure they have time to read it now, but maybe when this is over.
	No, afterwards, after they've crushed Hamas.
	Unbelievable.
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	Okay, first responder.
	As a first responder to this, what was done to these people of southern Israel?
	Well, I don't want to get people scared from what I'm saying, but I saw beheaded bodies.
	I saw body parts.
	There is one of my friends who was in Kfar Azzam.
	He told me that he found in one house a husband and wife and two children.
	They killed the husband first.
	They took his eyes out.
	I saw the body by myself.
	They took the eyes out.
	And they cut the breast of the woman.
	And they cut the leg of the girl.
	That's the family that I saw with my own eyes.
	That's Fox News' war correspondent Trey Yinks, the good guy, talking to Moshe Melayev, one of the first responder rescue team members in Israel, talking about the rank horror of what he witnessed Hamas do to innocent families in Israel.
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	That's healthcareforisrael.org donate Jonathan, I want to spend time on Hezbollah, on Iran and the bigger picture.
	But first, you've mentioned the influence of our military and the way we look at things here, this administration.
	Will you just for a second, I think even most well-informed conservatives or people in international security don't understand the power of the Iranian lobby here in America.
	People like to, you know, isolationists love to talk about the Jews in the Israeli lobby.
	Let's talk about the Iranian lobby for a second.
	For example, who Rob Malley is and why there are people in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations who may have certain sympathies with the mullahs in Iran.
	This is a real thing, isn't it, Jonathan?
	This is a real thing.
	Rob Malley was of course the envoy until very recently to Iran.
	You would think that the American envoy on Iran negotiations would be tough-minded, that he would be looking to wield sanctions and other tough measures against the Iranians to get them to stand down from their illicit and reckless nuclear program.
	What we saw instead was an envoy that was obsequious.
	simply just fawning over the Iranians, providing them with everything that they wanted and then some.
	Amazingly, he still couldn't get a deal done because the Iranians were pushing the United States for even more and
	he wasn't enough.
	It turns out that there's been a problem with Mali's conduct. We don't know all of the details.
	Issues concerning security clearances, etc, etc.
	Possible conveying of sensitive information that he was not authorized to convey to other people.
	We don't know who those other people are.
	But after that was revealed, then we found out this was published in Semaphore, which was a sort of somewhat of an odd outlet to have this revealed, but it turns out That there was a sort of an echo chamber of like-minded individuals that rallied around Malley, who now have positions and think tanks around Washington, but that are actually also working at the Pentagon.
	People that you would think wouldn't get those jobs in the first place, but then on top of that, they maybe would have been vetted to make sure that an infiltration of this sort did not occur.
	It appears right now, if we really look at this honestly, and I think there are a number of us, probably yourself included, who have long believed that there has been a plot to undermine America's position as it relates to Iran.
	I think it's clear at this point that that is what has occurred, but there is an investigation right now that is ongoing.
	My hope is that the intelligence community gets to the bottom of this and that there are prosecutions if in fact there was wrongdoing.
	Well, I don't think that'll happen in the next 14 months.
	I think we need a new president.
	We need to elect a new president and then we can have some justice to deal with the fifth column.
	Jonathan, it was one of the proudest moments in my career in the Oval Office when Steve
	Bannon and I were in front of the Cabinet and President Trump told us, he called us
	his heavies, he said, Steve, Seb, tell these guys why we have to cancel the Iran deal.
	And we did our elevator pitch, we told them why it's bad for Israel, bad for the region,
	bad for the safety of all Americans, and then of course the President canceled it.
	Can you explain why the Obama administration and this administration is so wedded to the
	idea of helping Iran.
	What on earth is the motivation?
	Look, I think with the Obama administration there was an attempt to try to turn Iran into an asset, to make it no longer an enemy by inviting it to enjoy the spoils of the US-led financial system.
	to allow it to enter into the community of nations after years of really
	self-imposed exile, if we will, to be honest about what the Iranians have done.
	The malign activity, the support for terrorism, all of the terrible things
	that we've seen them do to Americans and to Middle Easterners for that matter.
	There was an attempt, I think, to... I think it was too clever by half if we're to look at...
	And naive. And naive, absolutely.
	Then, you know, I think you have exactly this moment that you described where President Trump, you know, completely eviscerated the deal and got America out of it and started putting pressure on the Iranians once again, the maximum pressure campaign that put Iran on its back foot.
	That was, by the way, also further cemented by the killing of Qasem Soleimani after he and the IRGC had been taking shots at our troops overseas.
	What we saw with the return of the Biden administration was an attempt to get back into this deal.
	I don't know if it was as ideological, if I'm to be honest.
	You had a lot of people, I think, that were simply trying to restore the legacy, such as it is, of Barack Obama.
	Because we got rid of it, it had to be redone.
	Correct.
	It was just anti-Trumpism.
	It was pro-Obamism, if you will.
	A lot of his guys are still in the administration.
	Obama's flunkies are all over the place.
	Therefore, it's kind of the default setting.
	Here's the interesting thing.
	This entire paradigm has collapsed.
	If you look at what's happened now over the last several weeks... There's no Iran deal going to happen in the next 14 months.
	The United States has deployed aircraft carriers to the region to threaten the Iranians to try to contain a wider war.
	We are threatening Hezbollah, right?
	Iran has unmasked itself with the sheer number of Shia militias that it is deploying right now against Israel and against the United States.
	The U.S.
	is taking fire right now from militias aligned with Iran in places like Iraq and Syria, and we are responding with force.
	The entire paradigm that we could somehow convert Iran, it is out the window.
	What is actually amazing to me, and it's an anecdote, but I think it's really worth conveying here, Maybe you heard about this Jake Sullivan piece that appeared in Foreign Affairs.
	Which was edited after it was published.
	After the war erupts, he goes back in the online version, the print version you can't change, or he goes back into the online version, he starts deleting entire paragraphs.
	Let me ask you something.
	If you are the National Security Advisor for the President of the United States, and you are deleting paragraphs in your own personal article, is it not time for a top-down review of your Iran policy and your Middle East policy?
	You may have to delete your policy.
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	Now we've spoken about Hamas, the conflict in Israel, Iranian influence here.
	Can you just paint a picture of us briefly of the web that is Iranian influence, from the Houthis to the West Bank?
	They don't do conventional warfare.
	They would lose in a conventional war with America.
	But they really are good at indirect warfare and using other parties, aren't they?
	They are.
	They, I mean, as we like to say, they fight Israel to the last Arab.
	Explain why that's important, because Iran is, of course... Iran, these are Persians, right?
	These are people who don't actually, I mean, they look with disdain at the Arab world.
	And they see themselves as thousands of years more advanced than the Arab world.
	Correct, right?
	And here they have, they've deployed a bunch of different militias, all using Arab fighters.
	Smart!
	Well, yeah, if you want to preserve your own territorial integrity and not draw fire.
	I think, by the way, those days are likely over.
	Israel comes out of this in one piece.
	There will be a time where I think Israel begins to target the regime itself.
	Right now, just to be clear, what we're watching is the first phase of what will be a much longer battle.
	Israel will not allow for this to continue.
	So here's what I've been counseling since the beginning, and I'm kind of surprised and disappointed that Israel hasn't done this, because they've done it in the past, and I wanted to see it on steroids.
	Because if you say, okay, Iran is the mastermind, the funder, the real planner of all this, then instead of just waiting for a ground incursion and rescuing the hostages, which has to be done, I would have expected maybe Three dozen teams of Mossad agents to be traveling the world and killing Iranian leaders.
	I mean, terrorists... Well, that'll come.
	But why not now?
	Well... Just like after Munich, let's do it.
	Yeah.
	Because that sends a message to Tehran.
	I don't think Munich happened right, you know, immediately, right?
	It took time.
	These things will take some planning, but I would be shocked if we didn't see a Munich 2.0 campaign.
	Every external Hamas leader, every external Hezbollah leader... Detected, located, and dealt with.
	Yeah, and I'm talking about all of the jurisdictions where they're active, and people don't realize Hamas is active.
	Give us some examples.
	Yeah, Hamas is active in Turkey, a NATO ally.
	Those guys are probably not long for this world.
	They're active in Qatar, major non-NATO ally, also not probably long for this world.
	Lebanon, Malaysia, Kuwait, Algeria, you name it.
	And closer to home in our hemisphere.
	Oh, for sure.
	I mean, there are Latin American Hezbollah operatives everywhere.
	The high likelihood is that we will start to see some bloodletting in this regard.
	But just to get back to your original question, you need to look at the map right now of where Iran's assets are currently firing at Israel or against the United States.
	It is really astounding when you think about what's happening in the region.
	You have, obviously, the Gaza Strip.
	That's the first place that lit up.
	The West Bank, that's another place that's got Hamas, it's got Islamic Jihad, it's got Hezbollah in there.
	You've got Lebanon, which has Hezbollah, but also contingents of Islamic Jihad and Hamas as well.
	Then on top of that, you've got the Houthis firing out of Yemen.
	You've got Shiite militias firing at the United States out of Syria?
	And by the way, Syria, they're also firing at Israel.
	Really interesting there, by the way, is the U.S. and Israel are targeting assets in the
	same – within the same borders, completely coordinated, de-conflicted, where they're
	striking themselves and making sure that they don't hit each other.
	Very interesting to see that.
	That's actually a sign of the immense amount of cooperation and coordination that's taken
	place between our two countries now for decades running.
	And you can see the fruits of that paying off.
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	Jonathan let's drill down in the time we have left on the question of Hamas vs Hezbollah.
	One of the experts we've had on the show since the war said it this way.
	Hamas is far more expendable from the viewpoint of Iran than Hezbollah is.
	Hezbollah are the jewel in the crown.
	They're the guy that train Hamas.
	They're the high-quality operatives.
	Talk to us about Hezbollah and the threat from the West Bank.
	Sure.
	Look, I think it's probably instructive to look at all of these Iranian assets.
	Think about it as a chessboard.
	I think that's probably what the Iranians do, right?
	Some of these smaller Shia militias, they're pawns.
	Yes.
	I think Hamas is probably a knight.
	I think Hezbollah is probably a bishop.
	The nuclear program is the queen.
	Nice.
	Okay?
	I think that's the way to look at this right now.
	So this is, when we look at Hezbollah, it's a far more formidable force.
	150,000 rockets in its arsenal as opposed to Hamas's 15,000.
	Ten times the fighting power.
	Precision-guided munitions, which no terrorist organization, non-state actor, has ever possessed.
	We've not seen them in action.
	It's something to watch for because they are deadly.
	You could imagine the hitting of a chemical plant in Haifa or the Dimona nuclear facility in southern Israel could create a catastrophic event.
	These people have fought Alongside the Russian military as well as Iran inside Syria.
	They're seasoned.
	These are seasoned guys.
	They know exactly, they've trained in Iran.
	They don't have the same constraints as the Palestinians where the Israelis are monitoring them as so closely.
	And so this is the fear right now is that there could be a two-front war making the Gaza conflict look like child's play.
	Because these guys are so much better.
	They're going to be better, better armed.
	They're going to be able to fire off thousands of rockets per day, that it would be roughly equal to what we've seen over three weeks from Hamas.
	In a past life, you did threat financing at the Department of Justice or Treasury?
	Treasury.
	Treasury.
	Will you address this issue about the $6 billion and the idea that the Biden administration doesn't understand that money is fungible?
	Yeah.
	Well, look, we know that there was a $6 billion hostage diplomacy swap.
	Right.
	We gave the Iranians $6 billion.
	The administration says that that account has not been tapped yet, that they didn't authorize it.
	The monies are still sitting in... In Qatar.
	Qatar, which is already a place that funds the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Insane!
	And they're a Hamas funder as well.
	They have a massive Hamas presence.
	So don't worry about it.
	The idea that the Qataris were the, you know, the... The custodian of the money.
	The responsible actor here is truly insane and I don't understand why they would have done that.
	I don't understand why they would have paid the Iranians to release hostages knowing that that will only make them take more hostages.
	Correct.
	And so in this case what we look at is you've got 239 Israeli hostages that one could argue this is what we got.
	This is the result of trading for our five.
	And of course, look, they're Israelis, they're not Americans, and we can understand some Americans would say, you know what, better, you know, it's someone else's problem now.
	But the thing is, is it's not going to stop with the 239 Israeli hostages.
	The regime feels empowered to do all of this because we've let them.
	Right.
	On the issue of the funding, can you also address, I think it was, Yes, it was the State Department spokesman who more than once said, don't worry, any funds that are released through Qatar or anywhere else will only be used for humanitarian purposes by Hamas.
	And this is the dream palace that is crumbling right now.
	The idea that somehow you could devote certain funds to appease the regime on the nuclear file without having those funds trickle into the vast terrorism network that Iran has been supporting for decades.
	was insane on its face when this whole thing started back in 2011-2012 with the Obama administration's dalliances in the Oman channel.
	You can now see what happens when you do this.
	And this is why I say, I think, you know, Jake Sullivan has a lot of work to do right now.
	There will need to be complete revisions of American foreign policy.
	You know, it's funny, this foreign policy came at the end of the Bush administration where people said, well, You know, if you're trying to force democracy down the throats of the Arab world at gunpoint, this is what you get.
	It's a collapse.
	So then they came up with this asinine paradigm.
	Give them money and they'll love us.
	Correct.
	That's gone.
	Now the question is, can we come up with, dare I say it, in this fetid swamp, Can we come up with a bipartisan policy that does not tear this city apart, that actually begins to punish our enemies and play to the strength of the United States?
	Can we do that?
	Well, let me throw it back at you.
	Can we do it if one of the parties on that bipartisan divide seems to have rank anti-Semitic individuals in the driving seat?
	I mean, you look at what the Squad is and their inability to deny The righteousness of Israeli actions, or to say that beheading babies is a bad thing.
	Is a bipartisan policy even possible, Jonathan?
	No, I mean, not with those people for sure.
	But the question is, you know, can we work with those that don't hold those utterly extremist and detestable views?
	Forget the squad, right?
	Let's say there's six or ten or whatever the number is of people that hold these abhorrent views.
	Let's take them out of the picture for a minute.
	Can we come up with something that ultimately gets back to this question of strengthening in America, making sure that the U.S.-led world order does not crumble, supporting our allies, supporting democracies around the world that have a right to defend themselves?
	It seems like we should be able to do that, but when you look back over the last several years, we have not been able to get to that place.
	And that is deeply troubling to me.
	All I know that when we were in the White House, we managed to get Iran practically on its knees because of our sanction regime.
	They lost 40% of the value of their stock market in one year, and they were just on the edge of crumbling.
	As far as I'm concerned, that's what leadership looks like.
	He's the author of the book, The Gaza Conflict 2021, Hamas, Israel, and the 11 Days of War.
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	Similarly, I think, yes, understanding Hamas, Hezbollah as social movements that are progressive,
	that are on the left, that are part of a global left, is extremely important.
	That does not stop us from being critical of certain dimensions of both movements.
	It doesn't stop those of us who are interested in nonviolent politics from raising the question
	of whether there are other options besides violence.
	If you look into her, she's like the grandmother of transgender radical thought on American campuses.
	And there she is, Jonathan, talking about how Hamas and Hezbollah are social movements, part of the global left.
	As an American citizen, your reaction to the pernicious effect of these kinds of thoughts across America and what we've witnessed in the last three weeks on campuses?
	It's truly, it is nauseating, I think is the only way to put it.
	The idea that progressives, liberals, are openly siding with a genocidal organization that has vowed to wipe Jews off the face of the earth, to wipe the Jewish state.
	From the river to the sea.
	Correct.
	We're talking about destroying a country of 10 million people, and they're saying that this is a social movement.
	It is truly insane.
	I mean, there have been a lot of memes that I've seen online throughout this conflict.
	As always, it becomes a very heated place.
	But there are all these reports now of lesbian and gay organizations that are coming out.
	Right, and the joke is, of course, it's like saying chickens for KFC, right?
	This idea that gays would be allowed to operate openly or to live openly inside the Gaza Strip under Hamas rule is just patently insane.
	It's Monty Python.
	Yes.
	Yes, you can't make this stuff up, is the only way to put it.
	But look, there are, I think, there are reasons why this is happening on college campuses.
	There are groups that have long associations with Hamas, with the Muslim Brotherhood, that have spent decades making inroads with these people.
	That needs to be exposed and I hope that this conflict right now gives us the impetus right now to expose And maybe start to dismantle some of these networks because they are truly poisoning American minds.
	30 seconds left, Jonathan Shanza.
	Does Bibi and this administration, do they have what it takes to destroy their enemies?
	They do.
	And they are motivated.
	Netanyahu right now is, he's fighting for his legacy.
	He's no longer going to be prime minister.
	It'll be a matter of months.
	Maybe, you know, I mean, who knows?
	But there's no way that he can bounce back from this.
	But what he can do right now is defeat Hamas, stave off a wider war, and put Israel in a better place to be able to combat its enemies, because there will be multiple rounds that follow this.
	This is a first salvo in a much longer war.
	BB can at least bring some justice to the families, the loved ones of the 1,400 murdered by the savages.
	We've been talking to Jonathan Shanza, Senior Vice President of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy.
	Follow him at jshanza and the website is fdd.org.
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