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What is it my former White House colleague says, Stephen Bannon?
There are no coincidences in the swamp.
And he's absolutely right.
We don't peddle in conspiracy theories.
But when you see a pattern... Oh, let's use some loyally language.
A fact pattern.
Over a period of time, months and years, you realize what's really going on.
Every time there is another revelation of the rank corruption of the Biden crime cartel, within hours, within moments, there is some kind of new assault on the 45th President of the United States.
What's the latest?
A quarter of a million dollars sent from China to Hunter Biden But the address used for the wire transfer isn't Hunter Biden's address in California.
It was the home address of the man campaigning to be the president, one Joseph Robinette Biden.
As soon as that drops, what happens?
We have a judge, a rogue judge in New York, demand an order that President Trump's companies, including the Trump Organization, be shut down because they are fraudulent entities.
No coincidences, my friend.
We will unpack all of that, and so much more, the presidential candidates debate tonight, or rather, what are we calling it, Eric?
It is what, the vice presidential debate?
I think that's the best way to sum it up.
Yeah, they know they can't be the nominee at this point, so they're all trying out for that number two slot on the ticket.
Number two slot.
We will be talking directly to our colleague Jennifer Horn, who's on site right now at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley for an update.
We'll have a special guest in studio momentarily, and then...
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OK, I have some unfinished business.
What's the situation, Jeff, with this Richard Barnes or what's his name?
Robert Barnes.
Robert Barnes, after he called me, what did he call me, a war whore?
And said my wife and I were pimping ourselves out for government contracts.
Weird, I haven't had a government contract.
Weird, since what, before I joined the White House?
You've been trying to call his number and what's happening, Jeff?
He's still not responding and he's not responding in his office either.
However, he is on Twitter though, still talking.
He seems a little bit manic on Twitter, doesn't he?
I know.
I mean, it's like, do I live rent-free in his head?
But he won't do it live, though.
He'll send a tweet about you now, but he won't talk to you.
But he's been on my show!
What's he afraid of?
That's what I don't understand either.
Alright, well let's do a little bit of a deep dive on this individual.
So, Eric, you've been doing some research for me.
Who is Robert Barnes and who has he worked for?
Um, perhaps most famously slash infamously, He worked for Alex Jones in the multiple lawsuits he faced for claiming that the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax and that the kids didn't really die.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
He's a lawyer?
And he worked for the man who said no children died at Sandy Hook?
He tried to defend that?
Yep.
And apparently he ran into some trouble with the law with other lawyers.
Real lawyers, dare I say.
This is a report from the Austin American-Statesman, a Texas-based outlet, which said, this is May 3rd, 2019, Houston attorney Mark Bankston, who represents parents of children killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, Said in a motion that comments made by attorney Robert Barnes on Jones' show had placed Bankston and his wife at risk.
The couple have already been victims of harassment.
And he went on to say... So hang on, as a practicing lawyer, he's endangered the lives of people involved in Sandy Hook?
Of other lawyers, specifically.
Of lawyers representing the parents.
A lawyer endangering the lives of other lawyers?
I don't even know what to call that.
You know, legalistic cannibalism?
I don't know, but...
Bankston went on to cite a 40 minute February 23rd episode, Barnes co-hosted with Jones, in which he said the Sand Hill lawsuits are, quote, a coordinated plan, orchestrated plan, by people like Media Matters, people like David Brock, people like the Clinton family, people like George Soros, and other individuals who believe speech should not be allowed.
But hang on, if he was working on that case for Jones, did he win that, Jeff, did he win that case, did Jones win that case?
Uh, not really.
He lost a little bit of money.
What was it, like a billion, right?
Yeah, just about.
Okay, um, but I don't get it, because you found this video, and please, I'm sure he's going to delete it, so let's keep this in the archive.
This is Robert Barnes explaining why he's such a winner, and it's weird.
It's creepy.
Just, I'll describe it afterwards for those of you who are listening and not watching.
So, Let's save the Swiss Weird Oddity for the next one, but let's play the other cut now.
This is Richard Robert Barnes, whatever he is, talking about how great his company is.
We don't always go to trial, but when we do, we win.
And we win.
Again, it is an extraordinary amount of money here.
Hang on.
I don't understand.
He's sitting there.
Well, he's portly.
He's overweight.
He needs, you know, PhD weight loss because he's got that.
What does he do?
What do fat people do when they're embarrassed?
They wear turtlenecks, right?
He's got a black turtleneck, drinking whiskey.
I wouldn't... Jeff, would you hire a lawyer whose promo ad is him drinking whiskey?
Not really.
I'm not sure I will.
I don't have a teetotaler, but I really don't want a lawyer who's advertising himself drinking whiskey and he says, when we go to trial, we win.
The turtleneck, too, would be the first thing.
I would never hire a lawyer that wears a turtleneck.
No turtlenecks, no drinking whiskey in the promo ad, and then saying, when we go to trial, we win.
Please help me out, Eric.
Did he win?
Did Alex Jones win that case, or did he lose a billion bucks?
Uh, I would think pretty much in every parallel universe, a case in which you lose a billion dollars is considered a loss.
Yeah, I think you're right there.
But here's the most delicious part of all.
Here's Richard, sorry, Robert Barnes's philosophy of how he does law.
It's too funny.
Play cut.
The Barnes Law model is unique relatively in the industry, because the goal was to model it after the Swiss mercenary model of the 1200s, 1300s, 1400s.
And the Swiss mercenaries and the Swiss Guard, they now still protect the Vatican, they lived up in the Swiss mountains, but they would be retained by different of the princes that they were fighting with each other to come down and wage war, and they were the most successful warriors on behalf of anybody for 700 years.
And the utility of the Swiss mercenary model was they had no special allegiance or alliance with any particular side, so they could be objective, they could have a certain clarity, and would understand that their sole and whole goal was to be a good warrior for those who retain them.
And the goal with our law firm was to be able to mimic that model.
And to be able to repeat that.
And the way we do that is our whole team is a unified team on individual cases, but they live all across the country in different places, come together for a trial.
We design our system so we use online-based document storage, so we're very elastic, we're very flexible.
We can build a little mini trial house within 24 hours.
And we can have all of the tools that we need for being able to perform in the trial.
And the other advantage of the Swiss mercenary model is we're not locally rooted in such a way that we're corrupted in such a way that we're inhibited in such a way that we have to accuse a friend or accuse someone we know of misconduct.
He doesn't have to accuse somebody he knows of misconduct.
You mean like somebody whose show you've been on, who you say is profiting from the war in Ukraine?
That kind of smear?
Oh, it's interesting though that he does say in there, we have the Swiss guard model of no allegiances.
Yeah, we know you do, Barnes.
You pathetic excuse for a man with your black turtleneck and that embarrassing music on your promo video.
You always win, don't you?
Well, why don't you open... why don't you answer your stinking phone, you coward?
Or call us!
Do you know how to dial a number?
833-33-GORKA.
Can you spell that?
Let me help you out.
G-O-R-K-A.
You cuckold.
You coward.
Give us a call.
833-334-6752.
If you have any balls left.
We'll be back after this break.
Thanks for watching.
Bye.
I don't know. You really should. You should write one yourself. Put the mics on. Well,
Let's talk about the latest.
Let's talk about Montgomery.
Let's talk about the Town Hall.
What else is important for you?
I guess we can talk about the progress that's being made.
Good.
Good, good, good.
People like encouragement.
Even today, I was outside the Capitol for a couple hours.
With a little board?
Yeah.
Marie Rogerson came out from Moms4Liberty, one of the board members.
And I spoke with a legislator from Utah for quite a while.
And I always say the good things happen when you go outside, when you put yourself out there.
A man I've corresponded with, an MP, Member of Parliament from London, England.
Happened to be in town doing business.
So he saw me, he came to chat.
Now I'm going to be having coffee with him when I go to London at the end of the month.
Excellent.
Well near the end of October for Jordan Peterson's conference.
So it's just incredible.
I can't believe it.
I just go outside for a couple hours and I run into all these people and this legislator is going to try to get me to talk to the governor of Utah too because they passed a bill but it's a little weak, right?
Right, right.
All that just happens, you know, just putting yourself out there.
It's crazy.
It's beautiful.
Do we have that cut from the Congresswoman, Jeff?
Not yet.
I gotta get that.
We can talk about the lawsuit, I guess.
I'm not an expert on it, but in Montgomery County, some parents sued to find out, to be able to find out when the schools are transitioning kids because they're hiding this as a matter of policy.
And they lost that lawsuit.
The judges ruled two to one against it.
But the parents didn't have standing because their own children hadn't been harmed yet.
So only after your child's been... So only after they've kept it a secret can you sue to not stop this policy.
This needs to go to the Supreme Court.
Wow.
I think it will.
That was the appellate court.
Incredible.
It's incredible.
Yes, it's incredible.
All right, come in with cut six and I'll do LI.
Six, then LI.
Oh, that makes for a nice segue.
Mm-hmm.
Fix my posture.
This is fun.
I love your studio.
Thank you.
Most fun one around.
Did the Daily Caller... Did it already air?
No, they're putting together a video.
Okay.
And then I hung out in their newsroom for a while.
Met all those guys.
It was fun.
I'm making friends.
But yeah, you're right, I definitely need to write a book.
Do you have a new book?
No, my publisher...
like.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Everybody must eat!
Looting, organized rampage, and a rather obese black woman live-streaming, screaming, Everybody must eat!
Well, she sure does.
And what are they looting behind her?
Is it some grocery store?
No, it's the liquor store.
It's a strange concept in a calorific deficit that you're going to eat your way through the liquor you steal.
How bad does it have to get before people stop voting Democrat or come to their senses?
I think there's one key issue, one key issue that could be the most catalytic of all, and it is transgenderism, the lunacy, the extremism, the rank evil of the left.
One woman's pushing back.
You've heard her regularly on this show, on my Newsmax show.
She's Riley Gaines, the champion swimmer.
Who stood up to the likes of Will quote-unquote Leah Thomas and said, no, you're a guy.
It doesn't matter how long you grow your hair or if you change your name, you're a cheat and you're destroying the sporting careers of young women in high school, in college, and she's not having any of it.
Well, we are here to salute Riley Gaines, who has been given a new home at the Superb Leadership Institute.
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Somebody who understands the stakes, who just happens to be in the swamp from the northerly climes of Canada, is a great friend of the show, a very courageous man, a truth-teller extraordinaire.
He goes by the nom de guerre of Billboard Chris.
Chris, welcome in studio.
Chris Elston.
Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka.
Interesting couple of things you just talked about there.
Yeah.
Talking about the crime in Philadelphia, how we must eat.
I was recently just in Seattle.
I went to the former Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
Oh, Chaz!
Chaz.
Yeah, Chaz, Chaz, whatever, yeah.
Yes, of course there was human feces on the sidewalk, there was a person overdosing on the soccer field while people were playing soccer around him, and someone tried to steal my tripod.
But I stayed about half an hour east of Seattle in this nice community of Bellevue.
And I had forgotten my toiletries at home.
I just drove down the road.
I'm only two hours north of Seattle.
So I went to get toothpaste and things.
All of the toothpaste, all of the deodorant, all of these basic things that we need are locked up behind glass doors.
Hang on.
Toothpaste?
Toothpaste.
In a nice supermarket in a nice part of town.
Just in case the Chazz guys roll in.
Well, they're not even close to there, but there's so much crime going on and they don't do anything about these criminals that they now have to lock up the toothpaste.
And Riley Gaines, working for the Leadership Institute, I've also partnered with them recently.
Morton Blackwell, a man who has been doing More for the conservative cause in the last 40 years than anyone else.
With no ego, behind the scenes training literally thousands of young men and women at the Leadership Institute.
Free training by the way.
My wife's gone there for all kinds of political training.
God bless Mort and thank you for recognizing Riley.
All right, so what have you been doing lately?
You were in Baltimore.
There was a massive demonstration in Canada.
Tell us what you're doing, Chris, and how's it going?
Because you're the guy who stands there with a billboard saying, minors cannot consent to puberty blockers, which seems like...
Yeah, and the sun rises in the morning.
That's right.
And what kind of reaction are you getting from the crazies and the sane people?
Yeah, my sign says children cannot consent to period blockers.
I've got one which is my definition of a dad, a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology.
And for three years now I've been having conversations out on the streets and at university campuses about what I consider to be the greatest child abuse scandal in modern medicine history.
And how's it going?
Most people support me.
There's always a faction of people who are going to be violent to try to silence me.
Who've broken your arm, right?
My arm's been broken by Antifa.
I've been arrested twice after getting assaulted.
I've probably been assaulted 40 times.
You've been arrested because you were assaulted?
Correct.
And charged with causing a disturbance by simply being present, not saying a word, and getting attacked.
I was charged with causing a disturbance because it's easier to get rid of me than all these violent Antifa people coming at me.
Yeah, and there's one video we've shown of the local Canadian police officer, a female, who's smirking.
Smirking after you're being arrested and assaulted.
That was a different incident.
There have been several, but yes, she was smiling throughout as I was getting assaulted in front of three dozen police officers, who did nothing as I got throat punched, punched in the head, pushed by another guy from behind.
It's a wild world up there, but... But give us some good news.
Give us some good news, Chris.
In Canada, this last week on Wednesday, there must have been 30,000 to 40,000 people all across the country, in dozens of cities across Canada, protesting gender ideology.
Who organized that?
So, a lot of Canadians who've been fighting this for a long time, but the Muslim community has gotten involved.
So there were some Muslim leaders who helped organize.
Who've had enough.
That's right.
And those communities, they're not afraid to speak up.
They're not afraid of being called names.
And the left doesn't really know what to do with them, because they're not allowed to say anything.
Ironic, right?
Yeah.
In my home city, I'm actually in a suburb of Vancouver called Surrey, 4,000 Sikhs came out.
Oh, the warrior caste, we love the Sikhs.
And they shut down the busiest road in the city.
Because of this issue?
Just because of this issue.
Just last night at a school board meeting in Abbotsford, there were hundreds of Muslims protesting outside the school board.
So everyone was quiet for the longest time and I was traversing the country having these conversations and a lot of people have been fighting this but it's very satisfying to see.
What's the response of Trudeau's stormtroopers?
I mean, they were recognizing Nazis in Parliament on Monday.
Are they, like, worried now that Canadians are waking up?
On Wednesday, after all those big protests, Trudeau tweeted out that there was a display of homophobia, transphobia, and, get this, biphobia, all over the streets of Canada.
Parents want to protect their children.
You're a phobic something.
You're all sorts of phobes.
Yeah, because parents don't want their children being taught that they might have been born wrong.
Right.
That they need to be something they're not.
Or secretly transition, right?
In schools that don't want to tell the parents.
That's right.
So in Canada, each province runs education.
We don't have a federal department of education.
But of course, there's always influence.
Recently even, a couple of conservative premiers of these provinces have said that they don't want these schools hiding from parents that their own child has a new name and pronouns.
And of course, Trudeau tried to butt in and say that this was all hateful and everything.
But this guy in more good news.
I'm sorry, I have so much good news today.
We love it!
No, we love good news.
Trudeau has 22% That's worse than Biden!
right now in the polls. That's it.
That's worse than Biden.
Conservatives are at 42. We have several parties.
But if an election were held today, the Conservative Party would win.
Now, some people might rejoice at that, but our Conservatives are fake Conservatives.
They all voted for a bill that made it conversion therapy to help your child feel comfortable with
their own sex.
Oh my gosh.
It's fine to convince your girl she's a boy and send her off for physical transition where she becomes a sterilized pharmaceutical patient for life.
But to help her feel comfortable with her sex, you can be charged with conversion therapy.
We have so much more to discuss.
Are we winning here in America?
Stay tuned.
Chris Elston aka Billboard Chris.
Support him.
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We'll be back after these messages.
We cannot allow them to win.
Very good.
And the monologue.
Robert Barnes, America's worst attorney.
America's worst attorney.
America's biggest loser.
No.
How do we say it?
I want to use the word loser.
Do we use lawyer?
America's biggest loser lawyer.
Loser lawyer.
Culper007 in the chat says, If some guy tried to tell me he could represent me,
but then presented no facts and then just sipped whiskey, I would think, no thanks, and walk away.
Yep.
Yep.
It's the music.
It's the turtleneck.
It's the whiskey.
It's the music that gets me.
The music is like, seriously?
Somebody told you that's the music you need?
It's embarrassing.
It's actually like a character that would be in like a spoof movie.
So when do you go back?
Tomorrow.
We're going to a debate party tonight.
Tiffany Justice, Mums for Liberty people, Kevin Anderson.
Oh, they're all here?
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Say hi to Tiffany.
They ran the town hall last night in Montgomery County.
Yeah, Montgomery County, what an utter shower.
Yeah, these three counties kind of determine the course for every other school board.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
I have that cut of Katie Britt.
I'll call it cut 16.
Oh yeah, can you play?
The senator, yep.
Congresswoman, right?
We walked through and we got to hear women tell us their story.
And their stories are brutalizing.
And to Senator Cruz's point, if you're not telling it, that's on you.
Because when a woman sits there and she tells you not just about being raped, but how many times a day she's raped.
When she tells you about having to lay in that bed while they come in and out and in and out.
It's disgusting and it's despicable.
Folks, you look at the number of people that have died at the border because Joe Biden has made it more and more enticing to come here.
Make no mistake, this is a result of failed policies.
We could fix this.
We can't throw money at this and fix it.
We have to actually change the policies.
Yeah, that's right.
She was Richard Shelby's Chief of Staff.
And she's what, Alabama?
Senator from Alabama, yep.
Senator Alabama.
And what's her name?
Katie Britt.
B-R-I-T-T.
Okay.
Good.
All right.
What are we... I haven't done merch.
I haven't done any of that stuff.
Or social media, yeah.
Or social media.
It's the last segment ended.
Come in with that.
I'll do my Patriot Supply and then we'll go straight to Chris.
it. Patron supply back to Chris. All righty.
I kill the mic for a second.
you you
you we walked through and we got to hear
women tell us their story.
And their stories are brutalizing.
And to Senator Cruz's point, if you're not telling it, that's on you.
Because when a woman sits there and she tells you not just about being raped, but how many times a day she's raped, when she tells you about having to lay in that bed while they come in and out and in and out, it's disgusting and it's despicable.
Folks, you look at the number of people that have died at the border because Joe Biden has made it more and more enticing to come here.
Make no mistake, this is a result of failed policies.
We could fix this.
We can't throw money at this and fix it.
We have to actually change the policies.
That was about an hour ago on Capitol Hill, Senator Katie Britt from Alabama talking about the truth of Biden's open borders, talking to women, young girls who are being not just smuggled into America, but are being repeatedly raped by the coyotes and by the people they are trafficked to.
If you voted for Joe Biden, you are affecting that.
He is the largest human trafficker today, assisted by people like Alejandro Mayorkas.
Things are going to get worse for all of us, not just those being persecuted and exploited as illegal aliens, because we have 14 more months of this insanity until the election.
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We're back with a very brave man.
His name is, well, his nom de guerre is Billboard Chris.
He is Chris Elston.
He is like a lone warrior.
Reminds me of kind of like Churchill in the wilderness in the 30s warning us about Churchill.
This guy's warning us about The true evil.
I mean, you know, the Nazis you get.
Oh, he's over there.
That guy wants to take over the world.
But what about people in our country who are literally mutilating our own children?
That's what he's stopping with his billboards and engaging people across the country, across Canada, and across America.
I want you to support him right now.
Billboardchris.com.
If it's just five bucks, it's probably the most worthy cause you can give to right now that I can think of, because it's about our children.
It's about our future.
Billboardchris.com.
Chris, give us some good news.
We love Moms4Liberty.
You've been working with them.
Tell us about what happened last night.
Yeah, they're my best friends in this fight.
So, we had a protest yesterday outside a high school in Gaithersburg, Maryland, with Moms4Liberty.
About 40 people came out in the middle of the day.
It was great.
That's great.
Some of the counter-protesters, of course.
A lot of media came out.
So that amplified the message to hundreds of thousands.
And then Moms4Liberty held a town hall last night.
Got 200 people out on a Tuesday night.
Wow.
Including many policy makers and some heavy hitters from DC.
And what was the key message from you, from Moms4Liberty?
What are you saying to average Americans who aren't political leaders?
So my message is always that children are beautiful just as they are and we shouldn't be teaching them that there might be something wrong with them just because they don't conform to stereotypes.
But there's a couple things going on in Montgomery County.
Parents aren't allowed to opt their children out.
of gender identity or sexual orientation education.
You're not allowed to opt your child out.
So if you have religious beliefs that don't comport with that, the child has to go through that?
They say too bad.
They say there's no explicit instruction of gender identity, but that's because the left have all these tricks up their sleeve where they just weave it into the entire curriculum and they make it about anti-bullying and inclusion.
But of course they're indoctrinating so many of these kids who then, if they decide they're the opposite sex, they hide this from their parents.
So there's that going on.
And then of course, yeah, there's the secretive business going on.
And we just have to restore basic education in Maryland.
In Baltimore, they have some of the worst education outcomes in the country.
Kids can't read.
They graduate incompetent, but the transgender ideology is a priority.
Sure.
So let's get back to education over indoctrination.
So this is what we're talking about.
We're going to keep sending these messages.
We're going to hold town halls all over the country.
Because it's incredible, 200 people on a Tuesday night coming out to a town hall to talk about the education of their kids.
And you're going to be doing that with the Leadership Institute in California next, correct?
I am.
I'm going on a tour of California, six different cities next month.
Will you phone in from that tour?
Sure.
Okay, I love this.
Somebody needs to, Liberty, Moms4Liberty, Leadership Institute, somebody needs to do this.
What do you say?
Education on indoctrination.
Hashtag.
Education, not indoctrination.
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How do you know that?
I don't know.
You sound like I am.
So another assumption, right?
I just want to ask you a question, though.
Well, I'm waiting, dickhead.
Spit it out, will you?
Say that again.
Spit it out, dickhead.
Is that really the best you got?
Say it again.
Dude, you are such a sad sack of shit.
You really are.
I don't understand stupidity.
Yeah, well, don't look in the mirror too much.
Goodbye.
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Alright, I feel a little bad today because I missed our editorial call for Newsmax with Mr. G and our Newsmax producer David.
I think it's like the third time I've done it this month because I was distracted.
I think Mr. G handled... Jeff, did you handle the call okay?
Of course.
See, that's the right answer.
What was I doing?
Was I doing something worthy?
Was I in the gym?
No.
As you might be able to detect from my voice, Alex, you're like Mr. Engineer.
Does my voice sound a little bit deeper today?
Yes, sir.
I'm assuming that you were smoking cigars.
I was!
Give that man a cigar.
What a great guest.
There was a target of opportunity.
Mr. Mike Knowles was in the swamp and he was going from one interview to another.
I said, hey, I know you.
You're a buddy of mine and you like cigars.
Come to my cigar bar and we'll have a morning cigar, which is very naughty.
Usually I'm an evening cigar guy.
And at 11 o'clock we sparked up.
I had two big cigars before the show.
That's why I'm in Fine frettle when it comes to my octave range.
Lovely to see Mike.
But you know what annoyed me?
There was another potential target of opportunity.
I was in bed last night.
Long night.
Went to the theatre with my family and I see this tweet from somebody we like a lot.
His name's Carl Benjamin.
He goes by Sargon of Akkad and he says, Tune in in three hours time because I'm gonna be on Timcast!
And I thought, hang on a second.
That show doesn't do Skype interviews.
They have guests in studio.
Are you telling me Carl Benjamin of the United Kingdom is in my neck of the woods?
And I immediately texted him and I said, dude, what are you doing here?
You've got to come in studio.
He finally responded and said, oops, sorry, I forgot that you're in this neck of the woods.
And he's already flying out of DC this morning.
But I watched the show and Why do I like this guy so much?
Because he may be a Brit, but he sees things so, so accurately.
Let's play a couple of cuts from his interview last night.
The first one is a shorter one, and it has to do with our establishment.
Play cut.
The right doesn't have the right mindset to win the war.
That's the thing.
Because the right's fighting to be left alone, and they're fighting to exterminate.
But I think the right is starting to see its values play out in other countries.
I mean, I think of, like, Eastern Europe and Georgia right now.
They're both very pro-nationalist, pro-natalist countries.
That Argentina guy?
Right!
I mean, I think we do see it on an international scale, and so, yes, they want to be left alone, but they are seeing their values echoed other places.
Yeah, but the problem is, these are all essentially what you can just characterize as like the great men of history.
Like, there's one guy, right? There's one guy who's like in Argentina,
''I'm gonna do all this stuff.'' Okay, maybe you will, be like an Alexander the Great,
and you'll conquer the entire machinery of the Persian Empire.
But if you fail, that thing is just gonna swallow you up, right?
And so you're putting a lot on one guy. Like, they don't have the organizational capacity that the left has.
What have we been saying here for years?
Yes, along comes Nigel Farage in the UK.
Along comes a Donald Trump in America, a Maloney in Italy.
But these are individuals.
And we're working against what?
A massive organizational capacity the left has built over 80 years.
And the first part of that clip is the important part.
What do conservatives want?
We want to be left alone.
We just want to live our lives.
What does the left want to do to us?
They want to destroy us.
We need to wake up to the reality.
Let's play one more cut from Carl Benjamin Sargon of Akkad from the Lotus Eaters podcast.
Play cut.
When you tell people you've lost and you can't win, then everyone says, well then what am I doing?
So look, I'm not trying to say that it can't be done.
What I'm saying is, given the way that the war works now, the right is just not equipped to win the war.
That's the problem.
We know exactly how this war can be won because we can see exactly how the left is winning it.
The problem is that the right has just got no organisational skills and no defined end goal.
The right should have some clear view of what they want the country to look like.
Because the left absolutely have a clear view.
It's just monstrous.
And they're working to implement this.
And so the right knows, or should know by this point, it needs Billionaire backing, it needs NGOs, it needs an army of bureaucrats, and it needs weird obsessive people on social media to constantly reinforce every single thing this structure does.
And it needs to start consciously trying to take castles, like institutions of influence, and maintain them, actively gatekeep against left-wing People infiltrating them in return which is precisely what they do and make sure that every like I mean you look at universities where something like 95% of professors are left-wing like that.
Okay.
Where's the 95% right-wing ones?
Where are these institutions the right has already lost almost?
And there's one and there's one There's Hillsdale, she says.
Yeah, we love Hillsdale.
But so what?
What about the dozens, the scores of other entities, the rest of academia?
We showed you the graph with Jim Hansen.
95% of academics in America donate to the Democrat Party. 95%!
Where are our institutions?
Where are our billionaires building the infrastructure to take those castles?
To have the patriotic individuals who are going to take back the Republic?
Why does it take, well same with the Tocqueville, why does it take a foreigner like Carl Benjamin to understand?
All right, we need to get him back on the show.
I don't care whether it's Skype or whether he's in the studio.
Please listen to him.
It's the Lotus Eaters podcast.
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Meatball, yeah.
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There's, uh, like a reliable account I follow of this ex-cop in Philly, and he said that she got arrested, and he just posted her mugshot.
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Waiting very patiently in Cleveland, line one.
Mark, welcome.
Two quick topics, Doctor.
First of all, listening to your show yesterday about this so-called Crechton Barnes, I've got my tape recorder all set up just in case he calls, because your attack on this guy will make the Rose Garden episode look like a tea party.
It's so weird, Mark.
Jeff, has he called in, has Robert Barnes called in since we opened the show?
Uh, no Swiss mercenaries on the phone.
No Swiss mercenaries.
It's just so weird, Mark.
Well, I'm ready.
I'm excited.
I'm psyched.
I'm ready to hit that record button.
I love it.
I love it.
What's your second topic, Mark?
Second one is, you know, well, I just changed it.
I was thinking about, you were talking about Biden yesterday talking to these people and how he mumbles on and kind of gabs on like and I don't know if you remember Johnny Carson that much but he used to have a guy come on every so often and he played the drunk and he'd come down the aisle and cause a disturbance and they'd finally get him up on the stage sitting next to Johnny.
Sounds exactly like Biden.
That's the first thing that came to my head when I heard that.
You think that could be Joe?
You think that could have been Joe on the Johnny Carson show?
Joe Biden?
Oh, I don't know.
Could have been.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Guy's been in politics 50 years.
Stay on the line.
We're going to give you a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
Let's squeeze in Kevin, California, line two.
Hello, good morning, good afternoon.
Dr. Borka, you just pointed out that 95% of the professors at all of our universities nationwide donate to the Democrat Party.
Now, I'm just listening to you and I see this as a problem for the Republican Party.
The question that comes to mind immediately is why can't we have educated Republicans in these positions of professorship.
Now, I was in England...
You've got 10 seconds. 10 seconds. What's your answer, Kevin? Give me an answer.
My answer is, if you look at the... if you put in your head, what is a Democrat?
You're looking at a college student.
If you put in your head, what is a Republican?
You're looking at some unsophisticated hillbilly from Tennessee.
Well, that's because the narrative war is something conservatives have been lamentably absent in.
Thank you, Mark.
stay with us here on American first I'm a.
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She's back.
Professional.
There we go.
Now we can hear you.
Yeah, barely.
One minute.
Whoa!
Look at that.
She's in some geodesic dome.
How cool.
I am.
It's one of those tents from the Fyre Festival.
Look, it's Richard!
Richard just went by.
You remember him.
Seb says hi.
Ricardo!
Yeah.
Sorry that you have this crazy setup, but this is about all we can do.
No, it's awesome.
It looks great.
Okay, good.
Very cool.
So when was the last time you were at the Reagan Library, Jen?
Um, probably a year ago or so.
I want to come back because they have an Auschwitz exhibit that I really want to see.
Where do they put it?
Do they have space for extra temporary exhibits?
Oh my gosh, they're traveling.
The traveling exhibits are amazing.
They're on the bottom floor.
So on the bottom side of the gift shop.
Come in.
You've got the original Barnes and Beaver Fry, right?
Yes, I have it.
All right, come in with six again.
Come in with six.
OK.
Oh, and I'm going to send you the tweet of her mugshot.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
Mic's off.
I'm going to be talking about the past.
Everybody must eat!
I'm sorry!
Everybody must eat!
Everybody must eat!
You probably shouldn't, my dear.
And that's Meatball, who is live-streaming the looters outside.
It's weird.
She was shouting, everybody must eat outside of a liquor store.
What is it?
The pork rinds that everybody must eat?
What else can you find in a liquor store?
And thanks to Jeff, who follows an excellent account from a former veteran and a former cop, if we have the tweet of Meatball, has been identified and arrested you probably shouldn't live stream your participation in looting and she's it's not like the president's mugshot she's actually crying in the photograph and it says meatball not laughing in her mugshot yeah life comes at you fast doesn't it all right let's connect you heard the wonder woman music the charlie's angels music that we always use to introduce our west coast warrior princess she's coming from a what do they call it in the industry a remote location
Oh, yes!
Jennifer Horne, welcome to America First!
I'm so glad this worked out.
It is so good to be here with you.
I'm live today from the Reagan Library, the presidential library, which, Seb, you and I had the opportunity to do an event together here.
It is such a cool presidential library, and I'm here for the second Republican debate.
So, a lot of fun, and the buzz is starting.
I saw one sign as I drove in, so I was told the protesters are coming.
Loved it.
I was ready with my camera.
Didn't see anything, but you know what I saw?
What?
I saw one gigantic banner that said we need Trump and a huge picture of President Trump.
So on the way down the hill I'm gonna try to snap a picture of that and I'll be sure to send it to you and post it on social media.
That's the only protest I've seen so far is they want Trump here.
Was it our former colleague Brian?
Was he the one holding the we want Trump sign?
It was actually this gigantic banner.
It looked really good, like they actually spent some money on it.
And it was just draped across one of the fences as you drive up to the presidential library.
Who else could it be?
Who do we know?
Was it your other former colleague?
Was it Ben Shapiro?
Did he put that banner up?
It could have been.
It could have been Ben.
He was holding that banner up.
We need Trump, is what it said.
I can't wait to see that.
Whoever you are, if you're listening, stay there.
We want that banner immortalized on Jennifer Horne's social Twitter account, social media account.
She's such a darling, the way she introduces me.
Let's make sure everyone is following her right now, at Jennifer Horne, at Jennifer Horne, co-host of The Morning Answer with Jen and Grant, and also crntalk.com.
All right, we've got to talk about what you're doing tonight and what you expect and everything else, but can I...
Can I first give you a very special mission?
I would love a mission, yeah.
Okay, so we love you and my wife is very close to you and I want to play you a cut of a scumbag individual who says he's a conservative who said something rather unseemly about me and my wife.
Play cut.
It's to glorify and glamorize their Nazi past.
I mean, they're now making postage stamps in Ukraine of Bandera.
And so it's just, you know, the war whores like that fraud grifter Sebastian Gorka needs to start issuing apologies for this kind of nonsense.
But he won't because he and his wife are usually busy pipping themselves out for what cash they can make in D.C.
while pretending to be true Trump supporters.
That guy says he's a conservative attorney, Richard Barnes.
Sorry, Robert Barnes.
He's been a guest on my show and he did that interview a few days ago.
We've called him three days in a row.
He refuses to pick up his phone because he's a coward.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
And my producer, Jeff, I just saw him tweet from an event in Simi Valley at the Reagan Library.
He's here?
He's here.
So Jennifer, look for a short, fat, balding individual in a waistcoat, in a vest, and ask him who the hell he thinks he is and why he's such a coward.
Would you do that for me, my dear?
Oh my gosh.
I will absolutely go on that mission for you.
I'm looking right now as I do this with you.
I don't see him in this room, but I will look.
Okay.
I'll be on the lookout.
And if I can get it, I'll be sure to send a video to you.
Yeah, and give him our number here.
Give him the, he probably knows it, 833-33-GORKIN.
Ask him why he's such a coward that he won't answer his phone, not at his law offices.
I'll have him dial.
Yeah, have him dial in.
Alright, let's get back to business.
One person has dropped out, Asa Hutchinson, although weirdly he says he's still campaigning.
President Trump, genius comms decision, is going to have a counter-programming event with the striking autoworkers.
What are you, Jennifer Horne, expecting tonight?
Well, I think it's going to be, I mean, this is obviously a debate for second place, right?
I mean, Donald Trump is so far in the lead and I expect that he will stay that way.
So this is about who becomes number two.
So I think there are a couple of candidates with a lot on the line.
One of them is Ron DeSantis, of course, whose campaign has been tanking.
He's still going to be at the center podium, but not for long, because Nikki Haley is knocking on his door, and so it'll be interesting to see if the two of them go at each other to try to preserve or to try to gain second-runner position, I suppose.
Vivek, I think, also will take some incoming.
What's interesting is that Mike Pence has shifted to the far corners now, so he is actually polling and will be leased and will be at the end of the stage alongside the governor, Doug Burgum.
I think you've got to see Tim Scott really show up and not look awkward because Tim Scott is not a mean person.
But I think he's going to have to jump into this debate a little harder because I think a lot of us asked was he even at the last debate because he just didn't make himself known.
So I'm hopeful that he will jump in in a way that is true to his character but not Disappearing.
So I think that'll be interesting to see.
I think that Doug Burgum will be continuing to probably maybe pick up some of the people who like Donald Trump.
I think he probably is looking for a cabinet position with President Trump.
Vivek is always the wild card.
I always find him entertaining to watch.
Do you think it's going to be a rematch of Vivek on foreign policy, vice ambassador Haley?
Yeah, I do think there's going to be a lot of that.
I think the three in the center of the stage, Vivek, Nikki and Ron DeSantis, will be definitely going after each other.
I think they're going to focus a lot on the economy as well.
And I don't think we've heard a lot about the economic policies that Vivek or that Ron DeSantis even would have in mind in the executive office.
Um, I think they'll probably because it is a Fox business debate, spend a good amount of time.
So maybe we'll learn to see where they're coming from, from an economic perspective.
But if you're talking economy, I mean, Seb, you know, as well as I do, it is president Trump's that's president Trump's specialty.
And if we want to get this economy back.
You need to hire the big guy, not the Joe Biden big guy.
Yeah, the guy who actually did it.
So much to talk about.
We'll keep you on for one more segment.
I can't believe the technology is working.
I was worried about it, but we've got video, we've got audio.
Don't give the game away.
She's coming to us from the presidential debate or we like to call it here.
Thanks to Eric you coin this the vice presidential debate You said Fox are hosting it.
What do you expect from them?
Do you think they'll start with the why is your campaign tanking so much governor DeSantis question?
No, I don't think that's going to be asked and I do like Dana Perino very much, but I don't think that she's going to go after his campaign style.
I hope that someone does.
Stuart Varney may be able to do something like that, where they actually figure out what went wrong there, because he was supposed to be the guy.
I mean, I still think back to January in California when Ron DeSantis was beating Donald Trump in the polls, and now, I mean, he's barely at 10% in the state.
So California, you know, there are a lot of bad reputations that California conservatives get, but California conservatives Love Donald Trump.
It is the party of MAGA, even here on the West Coast.
And so I think they're going to have to really try to figure out a way to win people over if they even are going to be considered for vice president or for a cabinet position at this point.
So a lot is on the table.
Obviously, some candidates will start to drop out after all of this.
One disappointment, of course, our friend Larry Elder didn't make the debate stage.
He's supposed to be here, though.
So I'll look forward to seeing him.
He says he's not getting out of the race yet, so he is going to try to To hold out and see what happens.
It's hard to think that a lot of these candidates will continue much further, just seeing the numbers where they are right now.
Yeah.
All right.
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I love that Jen immediately started looking around as soon as you said.
I know!
Look, I'm not messing around.
She's on the warp path.
You mess with Katie and Jen is on the warp path.
I don't like people messing with my friends.
I'm sorry.
What is that?
Like, can I see his face again?
Yeah, put the B-roll up.
He's now silencing it after one ring.
Oh, he is!
Yes.
Play the video for Jen so she can see this sad sack of crap.
Gotta find it.
Here we go.
One more moment.
Yeah, play back two.
Give it a moment.
Hey, Richard.
Okay, that's him.
And he always wears a vest.
And he always sits like this with his arms out.
Play the legal style for Jen.
She'll like that.
Watch this.
This is him saying how he never loses a case.
This is the promo on his website for his law firm.
Play this for Jen.
The Barnes Law model is unique relatively in the industry.
No, no, no.
Because the goal was to model it.
No, the other one.
The other one.
Oh, the super short one?
Yeah, the super short one.
We don't always go to trial, but when we do, we win.
We win.
We don't always go to trial, but when we do, we win.
We do, we win.
By the way, he worked for Alex Jones, the guy that lost a billion dollars.
Say no more.
Interesting.
So what is he upset with?
He doesn't like Ukraine?
Any conservative who believes that nations should fight for their freedom?
Well, are the Swiss mercenaries on the side of Russia?
Is that why?
Are they opposing Ukraine?
Maybe that's what it is.
Play the Swiss mercenary thing.
This is hilarious.
Just play it.
The Barnes Law model is unique relatively in the industry, because the goal was to model it after the Swiss mercenary model of the 1200s, 1300s, 1400s.
And the Swiss mercenaries and the Swiss Guard, they now still protect the Vatican, they lived up in the Swiss mountains, but they would be retained by different of the princes that they were fighting with each other to come down and wage war, and they were the most successful warriors on behalf of anybody for 700 years.
And the utility of the Swiss mercenary model was they had no special allegiance or alliance with any particular side, so they could be objective, they could have a certain clarity, and would understand that their sole and whole goal was to be a good warrior for those who retain them.
And the goal with our law firm was to be able to mimic that model and to be able to repeat
that.
And the way we do that is our whole team is a unified team on individual cases, but they
live all across the country in different places, come together for a trial.
We design our system so we use online-based document storage so we're very elastic, we're
very flexible.
We can build a little mini trial house within 24 hours.
And we can have all of the tools that we need for being able to perform in the trial.
And the other advantage of the Swiss mercenary model is we're not locally rooted in such a way that we're corrupted, in such a way that we're inhibited, in such a way that we have to accuse a friend or accuse someone we know of misconduct.
Yeah, like accuse somebody who's sure you've been on of being a war profiteer.
A war whore, yeah, come on.
Oh, I'm bored.
Sam, I texted you, do you want to...
Does he have the hair now or no hair now?
No hair.
Bald.
Did you want me to use that cartoon that Trump posted about the date?
Oh, yes!
I'll tee it up.
Cut.
Coming with cut.
Oh, and also we can talk about Newsom coming.
About what?
Newsom's coming.
Oh, good.
Yes, yes, yes.
Which cut?
Twelve.
Twelve.
Coming with twelve.
Yep.
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He's running in 2024 on a lot of the same promises he ran on in 2016 and didn't deliver on.
He said he was going to drain the swamp.
They didn't drain the swamp at all.
He still defends hiring Christopher Wray.
He didn't fire Wray.
He didn't fire Fauci.
He said Mexico was going to pay for the border wall.
That didn't happen.
They started the wall, but we've got a lot more to be able to do to finish the wall.
I think the lady doth protest too much.
I was alive during the presidency of Donald Trump and I remember the economy, the immigration, the national security, the lowest unemployment for minorities and women since record-keeping began.
Let's talk to the woman who will be watching for us.
Jennifer Horne, what are you expecting from the Governor of Florida?
Is he going to be as pugnacious as he is on his Fox interviews?
I think he's going to have to be because he's got a fledgling campaign and that's about as nice a word as I can come up with.
I think it'll be something to see with Ron DeSantis, to see if he is going to come out fighting or if he is going to just fade away.
But here's something that you have to consider about what the governor just said.
in his accomplishments literally happened in just two years.
The border got secured.
The economy got turned around because then we were hit with COVID-19 and everything was out of whack and things were weird and there were shutdowns in other states and all kinds of stuff.
So when you consider the work of President Trump, you can't even say that he did all of this in four years.
He did it in two years!
And that's just really hard to argue with for any candidate.
And that's why I think all of these people are struggling and most of them can't get over 10% because It's hard to make an argument to the American people that they can do better than Trump did in just a couple of years time.
He has nothing, he won't have to worry about getting reelected again.
He can go in, he can clean house, he can get out, and he can help correct the path that the country's on.
This is such an important point that he did all he did before COVID hit.
Can you imagine what difference he could make with a full four years?
Double that?
Absolutely, especially now knowing where all the proverbial bodies are buried because you do have a period of time when you have to go in and get used to things.
He took advice and took some people in from the swamp and surrounded himself.
He's not gonna make that mistake again.
I think he was trying to be open-minded to try to bring people together and unite the Republican Party.
And I think now he's gonna bring in the people he really trusts.
And I think that will make him even more effective of a leader.
Now it's weird, you said in the break that Gavin Newsom is going to show up tonight.
Explain why you think that's happening and also why Fox in November has agreed to a debate between Newsom and DeSantis.
By November, DeSantis may have to shut down his campaign.
So explain all of these things to me.
Well, you know when I was a little girl, I may have shared this with you, I used to love professional wrestling.
No!
Oh yeah.
And so what I have in my mind is something I'd really love to see today, is I'd love to see, like, the weigh-in and the trash-talking between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.
I'd love to see them come, like, nose-to-nose, you know, where, like, the boxers do, where they, like, you know, just get ready to go for their matchup.
I doubt that that's going to happen, but man, I'd love to see it.
Gavin Newsom, it was reported over the weekend.
But not in their boxing shorts, please.
Please, no.
Let's not get crazy.
Let's keep the jackets on, everybody.
But Gavin Newsom over the weekend said that he was going to be coming to this debate.
So it is.
Why?
There is the anticipation he's going to be here.
He's being sent, if you can believe this, by the Biden campaign as a surrogate now.
But I don't understand.
Nobody's going to give him the mic.
So what does that mean?
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but typically when debates happen, the Democrat response happens like on cable news or on the broadcast networks after the debate.
It doesn't happen in person in the spin room.
But apparently Gavin Newsom, because this is California, is expected to be here tonight.
Now, maybe things change.
I don't know.
I haven't heard any buzz today, but I have heard over the weekend that he's supposed to be here.
So we're waiting for the governor.
We'll see what he says.
We'll see who he talks to and who will talk to him.
The spin room The logic of a DeSantis-Newsom debate on Fox in two months' time?
there are plenty of media outlets I think would talk to him because I really
believe that people think that he is going to indeed find a way into the race.
So how that happens I can't explain.
And the logic of a DeSantis-Newsom debate on Fox in two months time?
You know it is it is so bizarre and I don't know who this helps exactly.
I mean, I don't know if this is like forward planning for maybe a 2028 matchup, but you've got two candidates.
You've got one who's not a declared presidential candidate at this point, and you have another who should be focused on saving his presidential campaign and running the state of Florida.
But instead, the egos are going to match up and they're going to go after each other.
And look, I'm rooting for Ron DeSantis, even though I'm not a fan.
I don't want to see Gavin Newsom look good in this debate, but I'm worried.
Gavin Newsom is a smooth talker.
He is slick.
I know what his policies do to something, to a state, because I've lived through them every single day.
He is sneaky and if Ron DeSantis isn't ready to knock him down, and I don't know that he will be, this could be a really big gain for Gavin Newsom and a really big loss for the Republican Party.
All right, I have to change topics completely.
I see Richard pretending to work very hard, walking behind you.
No, seriously, when I'm on the road in California for Jen and the team, it's like one of the hardest working guys is Richard.
Can I ask you some radio etiquette?
Let's do it.
So I did something really naughty.
Our big boss engineer here got some really yummy food in and I walked into the production room and I said, put those fries away.
They look amazing.
And before he did, I took one.
I didn't say, may I?
I just took one of the fries and it was delicious.
What can I expect by way of sabotage from my engineer?
So you just stole a fry without asking?
Well, I kind of said, that looks so great.
I've got to have one.
And I just kind of...
I took it, Jen.
And now I'm worried that John's gonna, like, rip out all of the stuff.
I don't know how to work.
You know what?
I've gotten to know John over the months and, well, has he been with us a year?
I don't know.
Oh, yes.
I've gotten to know John.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
So I think that he's actually gonna probably forgive you, but I might, you know, I might check your headphone cables.
I might make sure that he hasn't- What if he puts some, like, honey or some YooHoo glue on my IFB?
Or maybe like a glass of water right by one of those cords to give you a little something like that.
I don't know.
Stop giving him ideas.
You may want to check your chair for a whoopee cushion before you sit down and do a show.
Have you ever taken a chip from one of your team members?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, look, I become friends with the people that I work with because I think it's important to have that camaraderie.
So I think it's okay.
If you consider them your team, of course teams share french fries.
Come on.
John, do teams share French fries?
This is the question.
The lady has asked the question.
It's called a fry tax.
A fry!
You just walk up and you say, you guys didn't hear about that new fry tax?
And then you just take a couple of fries.
And since I've done it many times to other people, I forgive you, Dr. G. Thank you.
But John, this is Bytonomics, which means I get half of the fries, not one.
Yeah.
Right?
And you can parlay, by the way.
If you took one fry today, you can actually give him two fries the next time you have something he wants.
But I'm not allowed to eat fries.
Oh, that's right.
Well, how about something else that he wants?
All right, I'll work something out.
I'll get him, like, a kale salad or something, right, John?
You're big into kale salads.
Oh, that sounds great.
Yeah, people really love to steal kale.
You know what kale is?
I told my wife, they took nettles and they rebranded them, right?
It's like sea bass, you know?
Like, Chilean sea bass was called the ugly monkfish or something, and they said, ooh, it's Chilean sea bass.
Ooh, that's so sick.
Kale is literally holly and nettles rebranded, and it is disgusting.
I hate it.
Kale used to always be a garnish, remember?
And now we somehow eat it.
Although, I actually like kale.
It's bizarre.
But you have to cook it the right way.
She's fired.
Off with her head.
Gotta cook it the right way.
Off with her head.
Follow her right now at jenniferhorncrntalk.com.
Follow her in the morning with that guy.
What's his name?
Grant?
Grant something?
Grant Stinchfield!
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My dad called me last night and left me a message.
And it's something like, I forgot my phone so if you die, Call me or something like that.
And I laughed because it was all voice dictation.
I'm like, if I die, what is he talking about?
Apparently he was part of the conversation.
Make sure Richard is filming you on his iPhone when you go up to Barnes.
I'm going to, so right now, because I have a break till I do Grand Show, I'm going to go to the commissary and I'm going to go to the spin room and I'm going to find this guy.
Let's see if we can do it.
Got to film it.
I'm going to look.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Bye.
Oh boy.
That was fun.
Um, okay, uh, title's for death one.
Um...
It's not a presidential debate, it's a VP debate.
the cartoon. Oh.
Oh, the cartoon!
Alright, we'll do that next.
And then we gotta do the Mar-a-Lago stuff as well.
Mar-a-Lago story.
I'll probably do some audio first.
Or some video shots.
Who is Calderon?
Perino, Varney, and Calderon?
Who's that?
Oh, Univision.
But yeah, it's with Univision of all things.
things. So, yep. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So, I'm going to go ahead and get started. So, I'm
going to go ahead and get started. So, I'm going to go ahead and get started. So, I'm
Oh, okay.
Oh Oh, I can't wait to see what she does.
It'd be like a kill him with kindness kind of thing.
Like, I've never imagined her to be like a confrontation.
No, I should just embarrass the crap out of him.
Oh man.
Uh...
Um...
Yeah, calendar's updated for tonight.
Oh, did you add the second Newsmax hit?
Yes.
Okay.
So yeah, between that and the two S&C hits, it's all in the calendar.
Jeff, what do you think of Eli Crane?
Do we like him or not?
Middle.
Middle, okay.
Is there anybody you do like, apart from President Trump?
There's a few.
Okay.
Louie Gohmert, you were excited when you got to meet him.
Yeah, I did like him a lot.
I like Ken Paxton.
I was wrong about him.
Why?
You didn't like him?
No, I didn't.
I just thought, at first, I just thought it was probably true.
You know what I mean?
Because this stuff usually isn't that nice.
But then when I really kind of listened to what he was doing, kind of what the RNC should have been doing before the election.
Oh, did we lock in Jeevan Fleet?
No, his publisher won't schedule it yet, because her book doesn't come out until November.
Oh, wow.
Or until October 31st, same thing.
Oh, Halloween.
Why not?
Halloween.
Why do they always raid Lululemon?
I don't get it.
It's not Louis Vuitton.
Patriot Supply.
It probably sells quick when you use it.
Oh, there you go.
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That's in a nice area.
No violence.
No violence.
No hate speech.
Just Happy Warriors on America First.
Happy Warriors indeed.
I always get, I mean, unless there's something really dire we have to talk about that happened in California, I always get cheered up by talking to Jen.
It's so fabulous to connect with her every week.
I'm so excited that she's on the ground!
Simi Valley at the Reagan Library.
We're going to have lots of coverage here on the Salem News Channel through the night.
All through the night, right?
Eric, all kinds of coverage.
What, I'm starting with Andrew Wilkow at six something and then all the way through to midnight.
Is that right?
That is correct, with Andrew Wilcow at six and then our very own Salem News Channel's Doug Blair later in the evening.
Alright, you can get the Salem News Channel app or just go to SalemNewsChannel.com and watch us through the evening for your exclusive coverage of the, what we're calling here, the vice presidential debate.
We still have 14 months to go till the election.
How bad can it get?
Well, look at the guy in the White House, an individual who He's been wrong on every issue, according to his own colleagues in the cabinet in the Obama administration, every issue for more than 40 years.
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All right, so let's talk about this latest not coincidence that we have the revelation that
China sent $250,000 to Hunter Biden, but instead of sending it to him, they sent it to an account
using the address of none other than his father Joe Biden as he was running for the presidency.
As soon as that news was leaking out what happened in New York the judge has said That you have to shut down all of President Trump's companies, including the Trump Organization LLC, because they're fraudulent entities.
Of course, it's a distraction.
And one of the most obvious signs that it is a distraction is the argument that they're fraudulent because President Trump overvalued his properties, especially Mar-a-Lago, when he was securing a loan from a bank to fund his future ventures.
Now, we've been to Mar-a-Lago.
I've been to Mar-a-Lago a lot.
Let's show some photographs from Mar-a-Lago.
It's the former post-serial estate.
There we are for the premiere of 2000 Mules with Katie, my muse.
It was a beautiful day.
Packed with the creme de la creme of the MAGA world, including Lauren Bobert!
There we are.
You can see one of the beautiful rooms at Mar-a-Lago.
We can go through.
That's where we actually had the screening with President Trump in the front row.
You can see the Sorbos, Kevin Sorbo, Sam Sorbo.
You can see Troy Nels, Louis Gohmert.
That is the ballroom.
We are meant to believe that that building with... Who's that chap there?
Is that one of the security guys?
Oh, it's Mr. G!
Look at that gilt building.
Look at that.
Jeff, that building, for those who haven't been to Mar-a-Lago, unlike you who have, how would you describe that?
The architecture, as a piece of real estate, what would you say about it?
Unbelievably expensive.
Right.
I mean, luxury upon luxury.
Just the real estate there alone is so ridiculous priced.
I mean, Rush Limbaugh's house there, Sold for 150 million.
It was being advertised as a teardown.
So that's basically what the problem is.
So that's the land?
Yes, that's the land.
And that land is nowhere near as large as Mar-a-Lago is.
Do we have B-roll, Eric?
Can we show what Mar-a-Lago looks like from the air?
Because this is the compound.
After the Post family sold it, it was in disrepair, unused for about 20 years.
President Trump took it.
Look at this!
It's idyllic.
It's paradise.
President Trump took it over.
He turned it into a private club and his residence.
It's where he lives now in the winter months.
And the judge, this Stalinistic, fascistic judge, yesterday told the world that President Trump is a fraudster and must shut down his companies because when he got a loan from Mar-a-Lago, he overvalued it because it's only worth $18 million.
Now, Jeff, you know a little bit about real estate.
$18 million.
What would you get for $18 million?
Would you get, like, maybe the lawn of Mar-a-Lago for $18 million?
Nothing.
I mean, it's so ridiculous.
If you look on Palm Beach, just go on Zillow and look what places recently have sold for.
These homes that aren't even on the water either side will sell for that much money.
That are like four or five thousand square feet.
So what does it tell you?
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I was gonna say even the maintenance shed at Mar-a-Lago was probably worth more than 18 million.
18 million?
So there's, down the road from where we live, okay, in Virginia, there's this awful spit of land.
It's this little triangle that has the main highway next to it, and then another quiet street.
And it's like, it's not even square, it's literally a little triangle.
They some developer bought it.
And he's put a concrete monstrosity of a foundation on it to build a house.
The house hasn't been built.
And it is being advertised for 22 million 22.
And it's literally it's a postage stamp next to the highway.
And we're supposed to believe Mar-a-Lago is worth less than that piece of Virginia real estate.
Someone put on I forgot who they said.
They said if the kids Inherited that from Trump.
What do you think the IRS would say if they said it was worth 18 million?
That's good.
I just sent you a lot that just sold.
It's a small little lot.
It's not even on the ocean that sold for 42 million in Palm Beach.
Just a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah, they really...
Oh my gosh.
What even is the judge getting out of this, like by claiming it's worth $18 million?
Because he got a business loan that he secured on Mar-a-Lago.
And he said, you said that Mar-a-Lago was worth $200 million or whatever.
It doesn't matter, you have to get an appraisal anyway.
But the whole thing, the bank, none of the banks brought the suits.
And the bank, if you give a loan, has to appraise the property themselves.
You can say it's worth whatever you want, they go by the appraisal.
It doesn't make any... Right, they go by their appraisal.
Right, we gotta put this on the screen.
This is just beyond... Alright, I'm sending this to you, this is crazy.
Yeah, one minute.
Alright, what have we not discussed?
We've done the Judge, the Transfer, Philly, Debate... Oh, Miller!
Oh my gosh, we've gotta talk about Miller.
Where is that?
And Comer... 13, I'll tee it up.
Okay.
That's a longer one.
Okay, let me get this picture in.
What is this?
400 square feet?
That's probably whatever was there before whatever it was probably somebody's like pool house or something
Please You
you you
You You are listening to America first with Sebastian Gorka
former strategist to President Donald J. Trump I told you Mr. G knows about real estate.
While we're on air, he sends me this.
This is from Zillow.
If you're not familiar with Zillow, it's like, you know, the real estate app.
Or website.
This is a piece of land, a piece of land that's sold in Palm Beach with two bedrooms on it and two and a half bathrooms.
Always wonder what a half bathroom is anyway.
Two bedrooms, two and a half bathrooms.
Eric, in case people don't believe me, could you read how much that small piece of land in Palm Beach sold for?
442 square feet.
And what did it sell for?
Uh, a cool 42 million.
Hang on, but hang on.
Mar-a-Lago is a massive club and it's only worth 18.
I'm confused.
Yeah, this thing is supposed to be worth more than twice as much as Mar-a-Lago.
It checks out.
I just love this.
If you want to understand what kind of values we're talking about, look at the bottom of this.
It says estimated refi payment.
This is the monthly payment, guys.
Just hold on to your chairs.
$280,000 a month.
$280,000 a month. A month! $280,000 a month.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah, judge.
Yeah, it's worth 18 million.
Gotcha.
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His name is John Miller.
His claim to fame, this is how you parlay one thing into a career for the next 30 years.
I think he was New York Times, he was a journalist and he was in Pakistan or Afghanistan and before 9-11 He interviewed some individual from Saudi Arabia called Osama Bin Laden, and after 9-11 he parlayed that article into his future career.
As a result, as being a journalist, He sold himself as a great expert on terrorism and a great expert on intelligence matters, despite the fact that all he was was a hack journalist.
And he became, hold on for a second, he became Deputy Commissioner of the NYPD.
As a journalist.
Deputy Commissioner.
Now he is, of course, CNN's Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst.
And this is what he had to say about what happened in Philadelphia yesterday with hundreds of people in an organized looting of the city.
John Miller on CNN.
In California, if it's under $1,000 worth of goods taken, it's a misdemeanor.
And so there are some who argue that by having that law in place, that just doesn't put a stop to this.
Is that the case in all these cities?
Is that part of this?
I think it is.
And you know, the litmus test there is where is this happening?
And you're seeing this kind of, you know, looting happening.
I mean, shoplifting and organized retail theft happened in Places like New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia.
If you look at where Target closed nine stores yesterday, four stores in San Francisco, stores in Seattle, stores in Portland, stores in New York.
These are places where bail reform laws, criminal justice reforms have taken the inside of a jail cell out of the equation.
So shoplifting is a crime where a judge can't set bail.
Think about this.
In New York City, there are just over 300 people who have between them 4,000 arrests, 70% of them are not in jail, and they account for 30% of all shoplifting in New York.
This is actually their job.
They go out to steal every day.
You're a smart chap, Alex.
Oh, I still owe you that reading list on intelligence matters.
I'm going to do that when I get home.
Sorry about that.
It's been a crazy week.
You're a smart chap.
You read stuff.
Can you just comment on, he says, looting, oops, shoplifting, and then he changes that to organized retail theft.
What do you think of that?
I heard they're calling it boosting now, too.
That's a new word for me.
Boosting.
But he says looting.
Oops!
I mean shoplifting.
Why would... When you've got hundreds of people breaking into stores, why would you want to say it's not looting?
I'm curious.
What do you think, Alex?
Do you think there's any potential motive there?
Your guess is as good as mine.
I have no idea why they would change the words there.
I'll give you a theory.
John Miller, you're a whore.
You are a political prostitute.
Yeah, that's what you are.
I've come to this in the last few days.
They're all whores.
They're all prostitutes.
They'll just lie for money.
You know he's getting paid by CNN now, right?
If you're the chief law enforcement intelligence analyst for CNN, you're taking home a tiny, tiny wadge of cash every two weeks.
And you actually censor yourself live on air.
That's, that, that looting.
Oh, sorry, shoplifting.
Did I say shoplifting?
Organized retail theft.
Because that sounds much better.
You're doing that because you don't want to annoy anybody who is your paymaster or hangs out with your paymasters.
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He's so afraid of shutting down the government.
It's a good thing.
He looks so worried.
What is his problem?
Why are you so worried?
I'd support a government shutdown before I'd support an impeachment of Biden, honestly.
I think it's more effective.
Do you think there's any possibility of there being a, like a private police force?
What do you mean?
For the whole country?
Because they're not being arrested.
The boosters are...
Well, the only thing you can do is a citizen's arrest and then who's going to prosecute them, right?
The issue is the prosecutors, right?
The bail reform?
Yeah, yeah.
Play cut to again.
Cut to two and three.
And three.
You know, it's interesting.
Voters all have different ways and different things that get to them.
And I personally think Letitia James was onto something when she did this.
I know a lot of business owners who are Trump supporters, but are slowly going, is it too much?
They pay their taxes.
They play by the rules.
They don't lie about the size of their hardware stores or their shops or their homes.
And reading this could be more insulting than some of the other things that could be just, you know what, they're too busy for it, they're too focused on their own business.
That if you really want to get to Donald, the way to do it is through his bank book.
Not by saying, oh, he's a narcissistic sociopath, or, you know, look it, he's definitely not 6'3", and he's not 215 pounds.
You go after the wallet.
Once you start hitting that bank book, that's what really gets to him.
Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
America first.
Kevin McCarthy's on the TV screens right now in Capitol Hill, surrounded by reporters, and he looks... He doesn't look too happy, does he, Eric?
He looks a little bit down in the mouth.
It's almost like he doesn't want the government to shut down.
Interesting.
It's weird!
And he's saying, quote, Biden is sitting on the sidelines.
I guess he knows how we feel about him in the last eight months.
If you want President Trump back in the White House, if you've had enough of what they're doing to him, wear his mugshot, his booking photograph.
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Let's go to Jackie, California, line one.
Oh, Dr. Gorka, thanks for taking my call. I just want to say in light of all the recent news
and in spite of it, anti-Trump, everything that's coming down on him, I want to remind
everyone why we should want him back.
He made a promise.
He made a promise that he didn't keep, and that was to drain the swamp.
And I want him back Pull the plug and let the thrill swirl.
I love that.
Pull the plug.
That could be a good t-shirt in and of itself.
Superb, Jackie.
Stay on the line.
Let's give Jackie a signed copy of The War for America, so you can get yours at SebGorkerStore.com.
Let's go to Keith in Florida, line two.
Well, hello, sir.
Thanks for taking my call.
It's good to talk to you again.
What's your comment?
I can't.
What's your comment?
What's your question, Keith?
Okay, well first of all, I want to thank you for the book, The War for American Soul, you sent me about a year ago.
My buddies is passing it around, I don't know if I'll ever get it back.
But anyway, I'm a member of the ACLJ.
Jay Sekulow, he was President Trump's attorney during the impeachments.
Correct.
I want to tell you something, and please don't take it lightly, this is serious.
The ACLJ.org, they need 20,000 more signatures for the petition.
And there's 16- Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
What petition, Keith?
Okay, I'm getting to that, sir.
There's 16 states that is in the process of taking President Trump off the ballot.
Seriously.
And he said this is probably going to go to the Supreme Court.
And I know you're a Trump supporter, and I'm asking you, I talk to everybody I can, would you please talk to your millions of listeners to support the ACLJ?
Sign that petition, and if you can send $5, they need financial assistance.
This is going to be a big battle.
This ain't nothing to take lightly.
These dirty bastards are evil.
They're going to do everything they can do to stop President Trump.
Well, we saw them try it in New Hampshire, and thanks to my colleague and friend Charlie Kirk, within 24 hours we shut down the fake conservative Secretary of State in New Hampshire when he floated the idea of getting President Trump off the ballots.
But the ACLJ, the secular family, are warriors.
ACLJ.org.
Thank you, Keith.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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The one, the only Kash Patel.
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Welcome back to one-on-one with our very special guest Mark Levin
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The intelligence community just gets in the way because they've written an amazing book and the deep state doesn't want you to read it.
But now it's official!
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I know this has been the longest tease in our show talking about this book for months on end and now we can talk about it because he defeated the swamp and it's out!
The author Kash Patel!
Welcome back to America First my friend!
Seb, it's so good to be back on the program.
Thanks for being a supporter of government gangsters and helping defeat these animals.
I support the book.
I don't support the gangsters.
And you're such a nice guy.
My personal copy arrived last week.
This is like the coolest dedication.
It's in big silver sharpie.
And our guest calls me an absolute giant mega machine.
I like that.
I think we need bumper stickers of Gawker, the absolute giant mega machine.
For those who have been under a rock for the last four and a half years, who've missed your appearances on this show, on Newsmax and elsewhere, on Real America's Voice, let's just tell everybody who you are.
Kash Pramod Patel served as Chief of Staff in the Defense Department, where his responsibilities included implementing the Secretary of Defense's mission, a $740 billion budget and $2 trillion in assets.
Prior to his experience at the Pentagon, Mr. Patel served as Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Counterterrorism on the National Security Council.
Before that, he was one of the highest officials at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
And the thing that kind of made him famous was when he served as National Security Advisor and Senior Counsel for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Cash, I'm so excited the book is finally out.
Everybody needs to go to Government Gangsters right now.
They tried to block the publication of this book.
They failed.
We'll talk about why they wanted to block it.
But first, let's start at the beginning.
What is the Deep State?
Do you have six hours to dive into that?
Give us the 30-minute version.
So the Deep State, well, first of all, we have to start with changing its name.
It's no longer the Deep State.
It is the out-in-your-face, I'm-gonna-punch-you-in-the-teeth-and-kick-you-in-the-groin-if-you-don't-do-what-I-say-and-then-I'm-gonna-go-to-task-on-you-in-the-mainstream-mafia-media.
That's the Deep State.
It's the corrupt criminals in government who think they can hijack and usurp the authority of a commander-in-chief because they disagree with him or dislike him, and they put politics before the mission.
The Deep State I wish didn't exist, or I wish was so much smaller than it actually is right now.
And these people ruined President Trump's successes and kneecapped him.
He would have had twice as many had they not been there.
And that's why I felt it important to list these people by name, by title, Democrat or Republican, and outline how they failed the American people so we can educate them before the next election cycle.
And that was kind of The emphasis behind government gangsters.
So let me ask you how it came about.
It's real.
I love that.
You're absolutely right.
It's no longer deep.
It's no longer covert.
It's no longer subtle.
It's in your face.
It's raids at Mar-a-Lago.
It's putting our colleagues in leg shackles at Reagan Airport because they were in contempt of Nancy Pelosi's illegitimate January 6th committee.
How did it get to where it is today?
What had the good guys, the people who believe in the Constitution, believe that when the American people pick a president, it should be the president that decides the direction of the country?
Were the good guys like Out to lunch?
Did they see it coming and just genuflect?
Did the rhinos not realize?
Did the rhinos assist it?
How did we get to a point where, you know, CIA, NSA, elements of the DOJ, the FBI, simply do not answer to an elected president, especially if he's a Republican and his name is Donald Trump?
How did we get here, Cash?
You've been on the inside.
Give us the diagnosis of how it occurred.
Yeah, and look, a little bit of history I think is warranted here.
Before 10, 15, 20 years ago, there were certain creatures of the deep state, a hand few.
And I'll give you examples.
The warmongers in the Bush administration that lied to the world about WMDs.
So the Defense Industrial Complex, which President Eisenhower warned us about 60 years ago, which is a central part of the government gangster's book.
It's a cyclical process whereby the heads of the government go in and out of government and get their golden parachutes outside.
That's a piece of it.
Then enter the likes of like James Comey, right?
Remember this creature.
He cared about nothing other than James Comey.
And this guy was the highest level officer at the Department of Justice before becoming the FBI director.
And then the instigating point to basically expand the deep state exponentially was Donald Trump's announcement that he was going to run for president.
Then when he won?
They went on a recruiting blitz, and they said we cannot be defeated by this man.
Why?
Simple.
Donald Trump ran on and executed an apolitical agenda that every president before him had tried and failed.
Ending the forever wars, taking us out of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia, peacefully.
Securing the border, the economy is booming, taking on Russia and China, tariffing China, making Iran heal, and reducing terrorism to crumbles.
I mean, these are not political mission sets, but everybody, Bush, Obama, Clinton, everybody tried their hand at that, and they failed, but they partially intentionally failed because They needed the cyclical government process to come in and the behemoth to bankroll their payday, their golden parachute, just like the Mark Espers of the world who floated out of government to a $10 million payday at Raytheon.
This is what happens when you are a part of the deep state.
You get rewarded.
And when you take them on, well, Seb, we know what happens when you take them on.
Oh yeah, you know, Devin knows, Bannon knows, Navarro knows, absolutely.
On that point of they're in it for themselves and not the nation and how Comey was the exemplar, I don't know if I told you this story, so my wife and I had a company that provided, you know, external FBI training on jihadi ideology and our first employee He'd all his life.
He'd wanted to be a g-man and after two years with us.
He made the grade He went to Quantico and he invited us to his graduation when he got his credentials from Comey so we went to Quantico and we're there with all the new agents at the ceremony and And Comey gives the weirdest graduating speech I've ever heard.
It was, he actually said, um, I'm so honored to be here with all of you and your parents.
And I'm going to say something that might surprise you and your families, because it's really about, you've got to look after yourself.
I make sure that I go to the gym.
I make sure that I'm healthy and I, and I rest when I need to rest.
And you're going, The guys who've just done the yellow brick road, they've graduated, and you're telling them that their priority is to look after themselves.
That tells us a lot about what these people's priorities are, doesn't it?
Well, they want to mold them into their sort of protégés.
And just look at what Comey did.
I mean, it's disgusting and shameful that he was doing it to an entire class of career
servants at the FBI.
But look at who he molded.
Andy McCabe was his hand-picked deputy that he brought out of nowhere into the ranks of
government to run the Russiagate criminal enterprise.
Peter Strzok, Lisa Page.
I don't even think we know the sordid details of that sex parade.
It's only beginning to come out that she slept with Peter Strzok.
Maybe there were others.
Wink, wink.
While, while, whilst they were all married, by the way, let's be clear, these people were
having affairs with each other whilst they actually had spouses.
Right, but what you also have to recognize is not just those characters in the Bill Presteps of the world.
Remember when the DNC server was hacked in the middle of Russiagate and they said, oh my God, it's Vladimir Putin and the FBI is going to come in and save the day.
Do you know what the FBI did with that investigation under James Comey's leadership?
For the first time I have ever heard of in my entire career as a prosecutor and public defender and intel official, they handed it off.
They gave the investigation, the entire DNC server to CrowdStrike.
Do you know who the CEO of CrowdStrike was?
Sean Henry, former assistant to director James Comey.
So not only did he get a multi-million dollar payday, they blockaded the exploitation of these servers to this day!
So that they could export their false Russian disinformation narrative and say, ooh, Russia the boogeyman is here to take down the DNC server.
That's not what happened, but that's what the deep state does.
And then Sean Henry, when a year later I deposed him under oath, and this deposition is now public, said, did you examine the entire contents of the DNC server?
No.
Do you know who actually broke in and got their tunnel way into the server?
No.
Was it the Russians?
No.
This is what they do.
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it's since you were fighting them on capitol hill fighting them in the
federal government help our listeners are talked about three-and-a-half
million people across the country right now
help them understand uh... this what is the nature of this beast that's no longer a deep
state it's an in your face permanent bureaucracy it's a cabal along with the
media the n g o's the billionaires who hate america
Is it really a massive conspiracy with some evil, you know, Emperor Palpatine in a hollowed out volcano with a joystick?
Or is it just, is it a hive mind?
Is it a collective?
Is it just people who think the same way and collectively their decisions are all not about America and as a result they add up to this assault collectively?
How do we understand the nature of the beast?
Yeah, so obviously Soros is Palpatine.
Yes.
But we'll be on that.
The nature of the beast rests in your latter example.
It's not even that, Seb, these guys are all like-minded.
Remember the traitors from the Trump administration who folded themselves and bent the knee into the deep state so they could go out and write a book and get a CNN contract.
You remember all these cretins that are now out there talking about salad tossing and stealing the beast and driving vehicles aimlessly around.
because they heard it from somebody who thinks they saw it, heard it from somebody else downstream seven layers later.
And this is who the mainstream media glorifies because it's the get Trump tactic 101.
That's the essence of the deep state.
It's not, are you a conservative or a liberal?
It's not, do you want to see America prosper?
It's do you hate Donald Trump?
And if you don't, can we purchase you to hate Donald Trump like they did some of these miscreants that are toiling their garbage stories out there?
And that's why government gangsters is so important.
I list them.
Look, I list the Cassidy Hutchinson of the world.
I list the Elissa Farris of the world and their multimillion dollar paydays now because they went out These are staunch conservatives, supposedly, but what the deep state's able to do is say, hey, if you don't come our way, we're gonna not only take you out, we're gonna take out everyone you know financially, and we're gonna ruin you in the media, or you can come on over here, we'll give you a seven-figure payday, we'll put you on this show and this advisor, we'll give you a book deal, and all you have to say is, we don't like Donald Trump, and we'll take care of the rest.
That's the deep state.
That's the outside portion of the deep state.
We've talked about the internal portions of the deep state, and that's what I go into great detail.
At DOD, FBI, NSA, CIA, like we're talking about in the book, Government Gangsters.
And I think that's why President Trump called it the blueprint for 2024, because there's got to be a multilateral effort within and without government.
And it starts with educating the American people to obliterate the deep state.
And that's the mission of this book, obliterating the deep state together.
It's not a one man job.
President Trump cannot do it alone.
He needs us.
This is what the president has said about government gangsters.
A brilliant roadmap highlighting every corrupt actor to ultimately return our agencies and departments to work for the American people.
We will use this blueprint to help us take back the White House and remove these gangsters from all of government.
Dan Bongino, buddy of mine, former Secret Service agent, great broadcaster, he has the Rush Limbaugh, you know, three hours every afternoon.
He says, it's crucial, and he's a former NYPD cop as well, he says, remember the names.
Always remember the names.
And let's talk about some names.
If you see the Russia hoax, if you see what happened with Crossfire Hurricane, the Mueller probe, January 6, The same names, the same individuals crop up again and again and again.
Now some of them are obvious, we talk about them here.
The Comeys, the Brennans, the Lisa Monacos, the woman who's actually running the Department of Justice instead of Merrick Garland.
Who other, let's talk about some of the other names in the book, government gangsters, who aren't well known but should be identified as un-American actors inside the wire.
Who else is important to know?
You and Dan are absolutely right, and Dan Bongino's a great American, and like you, a relentless fighter.
And look, that's why I'm gonna hold up for your audience, first time ever.
Look, The Index, they're here, in alphabetical order, in the executive branch.
And so you guys now know why the Biden administration never wanted this book out.
Let's go look at some names.
Charles Kupperman, Pat Cipollone, John Carlin, Robert Herr, Sally Moyer, Bruce Ohr, Fiona Hill, Stephanie Grisham, Michael Atkinson.
I've got them all, A to Z. I could read it all day long.
But more importantly, it's not just what the left does.
They just put your name out there and lie about you.
I highlight how they failed the government.
Every single one of them.
You have to earn your spot to be a government gangster.
We're not out here just to defame you.
We're out here to make sure the American public knows you failed us in your time of service and you will never be allowed back in government.
And you will never be allowed to educate Americans and rig another presidential election with your lies.
I shouldn't call it education.
It's called misinformation.
And that's a big part of government gangsters.
And that's why the intelligence community Try to block the release of that book for what more than half a year, correct?
10 months in a federal lawsuit.
And you had to sue them?
Yeah.
And what was their argument?
What were they saying?
Were you giving away the nuclear launch codes like President Trump was in Mar-a-Lago?
Seb, I was all in here!
The new codes, the subcodes, how we were going to call China and Russia and become communist.
They were going to black out everything, as Bannon said.
98% blackout.
Look at this book.
Look at the redactions.
Do you see any redactions?
Are they in there?
Well, they're not.
That was an excuse.
You know it.
I know it.
They didn't want the truth out.
They wanted it to be stale.
But the one thing that's critical about government's gangsters is they don't change their roadmap.
They just sort of change what the moving target is.
They're on Russiagate 27.0.
Right now it's the 14th Amendment and how President Trump is disqualified from serving
or running for president.
Here's the hilarious thing, Seb.
Has anyone read the first sentence of the 14th Amendment?
It says, Vice President, Senator, members of the House, and other lower-ranking officials.
It doesn't apply to the presidency!
But the Deep State will convince America not to just even read the Constitution and the 14th Amendment and say, President Trump's disqualified.
That is how they go on offense with their lies, and that's what we gotta kill them on.
Yeah, it's funny.
I've read it.
I've read it on air.
I read it on air about a week ago and said, there's like one position!
They have a whole paragraph of positions across government.
They even go down to state legislatures, but they don't mention the president.
It's so strange.
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Okay, I have such a long list of things I want to ask you.
Let's talk about the next 14 months.
So let's talk about the plan, what the GOP is doing with regards to illuminating the world to the corruption of the Bidens.
All right, let me run this past you.
We had a guest in studio yesterday, Jim Hansen, former Green Beret, and I pitched this to him and he concurred.
Let me ask you, in the next year and a half or less, As we have an inquiry and then hopefully an impeachment process in the lower house, as we have all kinds of investigations in judiciary and in the weaponization committee, the GOP has to be careful, does it not, not to fall into the trap of focusing just on one family or one president, and that this really goes back to his predecessor, his democrat predecessor,
Crossfire Hurricane, the first ever tri-agency secret surveillance operation against a presidential campaign, the Trump campaign, that was authorized under the Obama presidency.
So, what advice would you give as a former National Security Advisor, Chief Investigator for the House Committee What would you like to see more of?
What are they doing wrong?
What should the GOP focus on?
And I presume it's got to be a broader aperture than just Hunter and Joe Biden.
You're absolutely right.
And look, it starts at the RNC.
And I'm glad I saw President Trump posting on Truth Social complaining about Ronna McDaniel
doubling her salary.
And he said something to the effect of, why don't you win something before you pay yourself
more?
Why don't you go out there and set the table for ballot harvest and educate our states
and Republican movements in those states and pay for those processes?
So we're ready to take on the Democratic initiative that's coming, the next election rigging scam
that's coming.
Why doesn't the RNC fund these things and stop hating on Donald Trump?
That's a starting point for the RNC.
And maybe that's why their coffers are so empty and depleted, because people are sick
and tired of watching 90 cents on the dollar go to nothing but flowers and salary.
Now, turning internally to Congress, what I would say as a former staffer and senior advisor for the House Intel Committee is simple.
Keep it simple.
Don't indict anyone you can't.
Try, as you may, to take on the DOJ and FBI.
As much as I hate to admit it, Seb, our Republican majority has ceded all of its constitutional oversight authority To the executive branch.
They've just tossed them the flag and waved it.
Right.
So, there's no getting it back in time.
What they can do is start to impeach people of consequence that matter.
Biden?
Nah, that's a political piñata.
I'm all about impeaching Ray and Garland.
And I'm all about calling witnesses of consequence because the American people deserve it.
I know they've started this impeachment inquiry later this week, and I don't even know half the witnesses they're calling.
And I'm the guy that's in the weeds on this stuff.
Call Hunter Biden!
Call Merrick Garland.
Call Christopher Wray.
Call the FBI whistleblowers and everyone that got in their way.
Call Jake Sullivan.
These are the people we want to hear from.
And what do you say to those?
What do you say to those conservatives who say, nobody knows who they are, nobody even knows who Merrick Garland is, they only know who Biden is, and that would be a waste of time.
What do you say to those conservatives?
I mean, I think those conservatives would be the most ill-educated conservatives or Americans in the country.
There's three and a half million people on your show right now that know exactly who Garland and Wray are.
And that's a monumental piece of the voting bloc, because they care to tune in to this great show and get educated on the facts.
So I think that is just a political excuse.
Everyone knows that there's a two-tier system of justice in this country, and the architects of it are Garland and Wray.
And you have the opportunity to prevent another election rigging scam.
You have the opportunity to prevent the FBI from going to Facebook and Twitter and paying them tens of millions of our taxpayer dollars to censor your free speech and rig a presidential election and lie about the Biden corruption crime family syndicate.
You, Congress, have that opportunity, and I have yet to see the documentation.
You said you've sent subpoenas, but you haven't enforced a single one of them.
Not one!
You are letting them run amok and if I were them I would keep doing what they're doing and just blasting over you because you will not be the constitutional warriors we need you to be in Congress.
And take their funding until they fall in line.
Yeah.
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We don't pitch any of our guests.
We don't have questions approved in advance.
So I'm going to ask you to give me your best legal advice as a former federal terrorism prosecutor.
Because here's my big concern.
God willing.
Americans do what need to be done.
President Trump is re-elected.
He has four more years to, you know, finish the unfinished business.
And we have enough people, God willing, to fill all the positions, 4,000 positions that a president appoints by name.
But how do we clear the swamp?
So we can use your title, what is it, the Schedule F, and get rid of some people, move some people,
send most of the DOJ to Alaska or whatever.
But here's my real criminal legal issue.
We have people in positions of power or who've left recently at DOJ, CIA, you name it,
FBI, who committed crimes.
I mean, real seditious conspiracies that used, abused under the color of law,
their position and curtailed the civil rights of patriots.
Can we go after them?
And what is the effect of the statute of limitations?
Are we only going to be able to focus on stuff that happened in the last year of the Trump administration because the five years is up?
Tell me legally what we can do to make sure that these scumbags actually stand in front of a jury to answer for their constitutional crimes, Cash.
I made it easy.
I took 220 pages of all of that in Government Gangsters and then the last five pages I did a shorthand fix on government across the board.
Anybody can understand this.
So if you want a quick scan, go to the back of Government Gangsters.
And this is one of the things I talk about, Seb, in detail.
What you have to do is lock in testimony in Congress every single week under oath.
That's why it's so critical to enforce these subpoenas and get these guys up there.
Because they will always lie.
The Clappers and the Brennans and the Comeys of the world will always lie.
And when we're back in power, we will prosecute them for lying to Congress, which is a felony.
Do you know what it also does?
It tolls the statute of limitations if you can attach it to an ongoing conspiracy that they started 10 years ago.
And this is why I need Congress to act, because we don't have the executive branch in DOJ right now.
But what we can do is set the stage for when Donald Trump re-enters and we have an Attorney General and FBI with a backbone who want to execute a single system of justice not based on politics and go after everybody that actually broke the law.
And I'm talking about the government gangster criminal conspirators that have been at it for years.
I'm talking about the Jake Sullivans of the world who get rewarded with jobs in government service for crippling our nation's security and lying to the world about Russiagate.
These actions can be prosecuted In a future Trump administration, we just have to be vigilant right now.
And more importantly, when Donald Trump wins, we have to have an eight, not just an attorney general, deputy attorney general.
We have to have the 40 appointments underneath them in the DOJ, all of our mission first team.
Same goes over at FBI.
And we have to gut these big general counsel offices that all they do is get in the way and say, no, no, no, no, no, you can't do this.
Well, you actually can.
And you talked about the schedule ups.
That is a very real reality.
But you can also fire government employees.
It's a total myth that you can't.
One that has been perpetrated by the deep state.
They've actually made it so people believe you cannot be removed from government service.
I know.
I fired 10% of the workforce at the DNI when I was the deputy over there.
It's doable.
It requires teamwork with Congress and zeroing out billets and a whole host of other matters, but you can do it if you want to do it.
But the knee-jerk reaction for DC has been, oh, no, no, I don't want to be the director or secretary that reduces the national security footprint.
I don't want that to happen on my watch.
I won't get my payday if I do that.
Hey, I know a couple of people who'd volunteer.
My wife and I were on a long drive and we were working out how much could we actually cut the defense budget of America and still stay safe?
And we came to about 50%.
Having worked in the DoD for five and a half years, knowing the bloat.
So if you want somebody, you know, to cut billets, you know, I think we could find some people.
One last technical issue.
If you're up against like a Comey, Who under oath said, what was it, 136 times, I do not recall.
You can't get them in that perjury trap, can you?
You can't get them in that perjury trap, but you can use it to continue the statute of limitations if he's addressing a substantive matter of issue that he lied about.
The FISA warrants, boondoggling Donald Trump, illegally surveilling Donald Trump.
And his subordinates and so many other issues.
And that FBI went rogue and illegally surveilled me, a senior congressional staffer.
I had to file my own federal lawsuit this last week against Director Wray, Rosenstein, DOJ and FBI because they actually came after me for exposing their corruption.
That is illegal and the next Trump administration needs to prosecute all of them and we can go back and do that if we get Congress to do their oversight work.
I had a couple of meetings with Rosenstein when I was in the White House.
What a total invertebrate.
We're talking to Kash Patel.
The brand new book out yesterday is Government Gangsters, The Deep State, The Truth, and the Battle for Our Democracy, with a rather good endorsement from somebody called President Donald J. Trump.
Get yours today at governmentgangsters.com.
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Alright, I want a commitment from you right now.
If we do our part as Americans, what job would Kash Patel want in the next administration?
Are you going to be Director of National Intelligence?
Are you going to be the Attorney General?
Director of the FBI?
You know, what job?
Just tell us now.
If you had a wish list, which one would it be?
It would be an honor to serve the Trump administration yet again, and I'll do anything that allows me to kick the asses of these government gangsters and remove them from the scrolls of government forever.
As long as you're there!
Alright, that's a deal.
Smooth, smooth, smooth.
Okay, let's get serious.
The next 14 months, they really want our old boss in prison, don't they?
Are they going to?
Give us your prognosis.
What should President Trump do?
What should his legal team do?
Who does he need on the legal team?
Talk to us about the next 16 months in American politics.
Look, they're going to go out and try to kneecap him in state court, in federal court.
They're going to use the two-tier system of justice.
They're going to use the mainstream media.
And they're going to lie to the world and rig another presidential election.
What our job is It's to exploit the information that is being suppressed, the truth that is being hidden from the American public, that they are not charging President Biden with actual crimes and conjuring up fictitious crimes when it comes to President Trump.
Remember the insurrectionist, seditionist, classified document hoarder?
When it came time to charge President Trump for those crimes, they did not charge him with any of them because they could not and because he is not one individual who has broken the law at any state of the time.
And so we have to just be vigilant and stay on the watch and get this truth out, because the one thing that will secure America in the future is this two-tier system of justice's destruction, which we must lead with the truth.
And the strategy for his legal team?
Do they do shotgun approach?
Do they focus on one thing, like this is totally unconstitutional, like the Presidential Records Act is all you need to know when it comes to classified documents?
What is the strategic thinking for the various teams?
It's going to depend.
That's a much deeper dive, but it's going to be a case-by-case basis.
The critical thing is they just need to get the documents out to show the American public.
That's the critical thing.
And when the government is caught being corrupt, we have to go full on offense when that happens.
They've done it before.
These cast of characters have broken the law in prosecuting other individuals.
You bet your bottom dollar they did it with President Trump, and when they do it, we got to jump on it.
Yeah.
All right.
He is a MAGA machine.
He is a true patriot.
We need to see him back in the administration, one of the highest positions possible to crush the deep state.
In the meantime, the book is out yesterday.
Get yours today.
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Gangsters.
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