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	Why can't she say the word important?
	Well, what is important?
	What is important?
	What is that?
	Eric, is that how Americans say important?
	That must be like a millennial thing.
	I wouldn't know.
	Because you know who else does it?
	There's only one other person in politics who does that.
	It goes, important.
	You know who it is?
	Who is it?
	Ilhan Omar.
	No, seriously.
	Check it out.
	They both say Important.
	It sounds like you're Cockney, like you're Michael Caine from East London.
	What is it?
	That was this morning, 11am in New York.
	The Democrats Solving the migrant crisis!
	And what's their answer?
	Oh my gosh.
	Jeff, isn't this beautiful?
	They're saying more federal funds because that's going to make people who can't pay the car payment happy.
	And the other thing is, give them work permits.
	Isn't that amazing?
	I know, and it's not just New York.
	It's been going on in Chicago, too, and these people are not Republicans that are complaining.
	It's all different types of parties, and I think they're going to shut this down.
	This is not going to be legal anymore, I think, yelling at politicians.
	Oh, don't give them ideas!
	They might be tuning into the show!
	You're protesting?
	You're a Democrat, and you're protesting at AOC?
	That's going to be a crime!
	But it gets even better.
	Listen to what this cretinous Democrat says.
	Cut 17.
	What the hell's wrong with you?
	It's America!
	This is the United States of America!
	Yeah, that's what, what is this?
	What is this here then?
	Yeah, barriers for who?
	For who?
	For us?
	For the United States?
	No, you come down!
	You're complicit in destroying our city!
	You come down, you home-breaker!
	You better go to sleep at night!
	Actually, that's one of the protesters.
	I hadn't seen that cut before.
	That's the streets of New York.
	That man didn't have a red MAGA hat on.
	It is getting hot.
	How long do you think this can last, Jeff?
	How long do you think, if Democrats are doing this, they can't do this for long, can they?
	I know.
	They really don't like it when they start doing the things that they've done for 30 years, when Republicans start doing it against them.
	But it's not all Republicans.
	I'm telling you, they're going to shut this down somehow.
	You mean just make it impossible to complain?
	Yeah, or they just won't ever speak in public anymore.
	It'll be all being controlled.
	Yes, they'll be hiding like the man in the White House.
	It's Friday.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	It's America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, your host.
	We have a cracking show for you today.
	Should I tell them who's coming in the third hour?
	Eric, what do you think?
	I think you'll build up the suspense for a little while and then maybe right before the third hour.
	All right.
	We're going to have a real superstar with us.
	A real Hollywood superstar who's now become a political superstar who might be making a surprise guest appearance in our Making Movies Great Again.
	So don't miss it.
	If you have to do something that's, well, how many more important things are there?
	If you're going to Mars on one of Elon Musk's rockets, or if you're performing brain surgery, if you're like the new Ben Carson, okay, I'll accept that excuse.
	Otherwise, otherwise, you should listen to all three hours of the show.
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	Plug in my name, Sebastian Gawker, America First, and you don't want to miss a thing.
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	Okay.
	The lines are open.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	We're going to flip things today.
	The Second Amendment Hour is going to be first, because we have a very special guest who's going to talk guns and also Benghazi, because he was there.
	Second hour, we're going to have our usual guests, my former White House colleague, Boris Epstein.
	We're going to talk to Jim Carafano of the Heritage Foundation, and then Making Movies Great Again.
	But for the first few minutes, let me just read you something.
	It's called The Man in the Arena.
	It's from a speech from 1910, given by a man who would be president, Theodore Roosevelt.
	A man who had this to say about what matters in politics.
	What matters when it comes to achieving something.
	And it applies to somebody I used to work for.
	The man in the arena.
	It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
	The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood.
	The man who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.
	But the man who does actually strive to do the deeds, who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, the man who At the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and the man who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly.
	So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
	Theodore Roosevelt.
	Does that apply to you?
	If you're a man, have you Stepped in the arena?
	Because I want to invite you to step in the arena for the next 14 months.
	Because we need you to.
	Because you must.
	Do you care about America?
	Do you love America?
	Do you love your children?
	Do you love your wife?
	Do you want them to be safe?
	And do you want them to prosper?
	Do you want a bright, safe future for yourself and your loved ones?
	Because if you do, you have to make that possible.
	It's not about listening to this radio show.
	It's not about voting for President Trump.
	It's about all of us.
	It's about one team.
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	Get a piece of paper right now and write down what are you doing To help vouchsafe the future of our freedom.
	What are you prepared to do politically to guarantee that the last three years will be an unpleasant nightmare we can forget and that the next four years or more will be safe and prosperous and America will be great again?
	If you're not actively part of that, I don't want you to be part of this program or listen to it.
	Because I want serious men and women who are prepared to step into the arena.
	Men like Donald Trump.
	The man whose face is now adorning a booking photograph.
	A photograph that tells you everything you need to know about America.
	A photograph that you should be wearing as a mark of pride that you're on the outlaw side because he loves America.
	Will you save it with him and me?
	We can do it together.
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	you you
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Where are all the decent men and women pushing back on the insanity?
	They're coming after our children.
	Look what they've done in just recent years with high school athletics, with college athletics.
	Guys who are failures suddenly pretending they're women and then crushing the sports careers of actual women.
	One of them has had enough, the champion All-American swimmer Riley Gaines.
	You've seen her on this show, you've seen her on my Newsmax show, and the amazing people at the Leadership Institute have seen in her a real fighter.
	As a result, they have launched the Riley Gaines Center, where she will be recruiting young men and women across the country to train them to fight to protect women, defend truth, and champion the principles that fuel freedom.
	We need to save women's sports and stop the lunatics.
	I support Riley.
	Will you?
	Please go right now to TeamRiley.org.
	That's Team R-I-L-E-Y.
	TeamRiley.org.
	I support her.
	Please.
	You should too.
	Portions of America First are brought to you in part by the amazing people at the Leadership Institute.
	All right, we've been trying to get him on all week.
	He's a hard man to pin down.
	Why?
	Because he's fighting the swamp monsters on Capitol Hill.
	From Arizona's Fighting Fifth, the irrepressible, the unstoppable, Congressman Andy Biggs.
	Welcome back, sir.
	Thanks, Shep.
	It's always good to be with you.
	All right, so give us some ground truth.
	Help me out here.
	I need a reality check, because it looks like we've got two competing narratives coming out of the Republicans on Capitol Hill.
	Everything's great.
	Kevin's finally started the inquiry for impeachment.
	And then we've got the likes of Matt Gaetz saying, nah, nah, nah, this is a shell game.
	Nothing's ever going to happen.
	So tell us what the truth is, Congressman.
	Well, the sad truth is, while the Biden administration is burning down the country, attacking every institution they have, is attacking the American people, the Constitution, our rights, our religion, our faith, our speech, our Second Amendment.
	I mean, it's just incredible that so many of my colleagues want to just keep going on as if things are not different, as if things are the same.
	And quite frankly, You know, it's the old Einstein thing.
	If you want to keep doing the same thing and expect change, then that's the definition of insanity.
	And that's where I think we are.
	So on the impeachment front, yeah, we're doing an inquiry.
	I think we're going to actually get to an impeachment.
	I think that Kevin has a habit of boxing himself in.
	I think he's just boxed himself in.
	while he's trying to give himself an out.
	On the other hand, this spending stuff is driving me crazy.
	How in the world can you produce a budget that is somewhere near the levels of Pelosi, Schumer,
	and Biden's budget that is now over $2 trillion this year alone in structural deficit,
	and then say, okay, let's just pare that down just a titch.
	So explain that.
	So explain that.
	You've talked about Einstein's repeating the same thing and expecting a different result.
	So why has this occurred?
	Is it just inertia?
	Is Kevin afraid?
	What happened to the stipulations of the 19 when we agreed to have him become the speaker?
	Are they just forgotten?
	Yeah, they're gone in the wind.
	And by the way, there were some of us, including myself, who predicted that this would happen, which is why I was never actually a party to that agreement.
	The reality is, You knew this was going to happen when he did his debt ceiling.
	He said, OK, we can't default on the loan, which, by the way, is a fake argument anyway.
	So he decided to come in and say, let's raise the debt ceiling by $1.5 trillion.
	So let's take it from $32.4 to $34 trillion in eight months.
	That's what they were going to do.
	But when he goes over to the Senate, He comes back beaten and we have no debt ceiling right now.
	No debt ceiling.
	No limit on how much debt you can get into now.
	You've been there long enough.
	Where does this end?
	Because right now I see this as compromise.
	I completely agree with you.
	I've seen Kevin painting himself into a corner and then I see compromise compromise compromise on things that there should be no compromise on which means as the GOP you're gonna get a spanking I mean you will be punished the American people will say hang on this is not what we agreed to so where does this end Andy?
	Well, that is my biggest fear, Seb, is exactly what you said.
	So if we're talking politically, where does this end?
	It ends where a significant portion of the Republican base says, why should we trust you guys?
	Why should we trust you guys?
	And that's always a scary thing going into an election season.
	Now, what does it look like?
	I'll give you my analysis right now.
	I think President Trump is going to be the Republican nominee.
	I don't know who's going to be the Democrat nominee.
	It's hard to conceive that they could put Biden back up.
	Trump is going to, you know, it's going to be a tight election.
	I think Trump has a legitimate shot, but he's not going to have long coattails.
	It's not going to be a normal election where either party's leader, top of the ticket, is going to bring long coattails.
	Because, and I'm not arguing with you, I just want the backfill, because the voters are going to be displeased with the GOP or because there's going to be shenanigans again?
	Why are we not going to see the coattail effect?
	Okay, assuming no shenanigans, just for a minute, I think what you're going to see is this disapprobation from the base to the legislative bodies, certainly to Congress.
	And why is that?
	It is because we haven't stood up.
	I mean, not enough of us.
	I mean, there's a good portion of people that are actually standing up trying to fight and get some things done on impeachment and everything else.
	But the leadership Yeah.
	has failed to fight and take a stand.
	And what that does is that turns off the base.
	That pleases K Street and the lobbyists, but it doesn't endear our team to the base.
	And our team has got to rally and come back here.
	It's not too late, but we better do pedal to the metal and actually do something serious about the budget, do something about the border.
	The border, Seb, we could go on and on about the border.
	And you've got to do something about holding the Biden So, we've got a minute left.
	It's the pinned tweet at the top of your account.
	I've just re-re-posted it.
	Alien Invasion, a documentary.
	You've got to see it.
	Follow this man right now.
	Rep Andy Biggs AZ.
	Also biggs.house.gov.
	In the last minute, we've got left Congressman.
	We need to get you back next week for a longer discussion.
	If you were the kingmaker, what should your colleagues and leadership do in the next six months?
	What is the minimum they have to put on the table, Congressman?
	They have to do a budget that holds Biden accountable and defunds portions of the Biden administration that are attacking Americans, including at the border.
	You need to shore up the border.
	You have to actually go through an impeachment process where you reveal to the American people what we have seen in the multiple classified settings, the documents, the testimony that's out there.
	And then you have to hold this administration accountable to bring the economy back down.
	So if you continue to spend like you're doing, you're going to continue to have inflationary pressures, and you've got to stop your spending so high.
	No more $2 trillion deficits, that's for sure.
	It's the bottom line.
	He nailed it.
	If they don't produce, the bass will punish them, and then it's gonna be hard to govern.
	Follow him at RepAndyBiggsAZ.
	God bless you, sir.
	Have a blessed weekend.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	you This is Second Amendment Friday on America First.
	First with Dr. G.
	Yes it is and I thank every day the good Lord above for making sure America for the
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	All right, we're switching the Second Amendment out to the first hour because we've got a very special guest to talk about the other 9-11 that we forget far, far too easily.
	It happened in Benghazi.
	And let's remind the world what Hillary Clinton thought about four Americans being murdered on the anniversary of 9-11 at our CIA annex in Benghazi.
	With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans.
	Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
	What difference at this point does it make?
	It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.
	One of the most despicable things ever said in Congress.
	Let's talk to a man who has a different take on what difference does it make?
	He was there.
	He is a survivor of the Battle of Benghazi.
	Chris Tanto-Pironto, my buddy.
	It's been far too long.
	Welcome back to America First, Chris.
	Hey, thanks for having me.
	Yeah, it's been a lot.
	Three years?
	Three, four years?
	Three years.
	I think the last time I saw you was at a Schrott show before COVID.
	Oh yeah before the craziness of COVID and I swear if you didn't think we were sheep in America you definitely saw it then.
	Yeah it's one of the things that disturbed me the most is that you know a land built on rugged individualism go west young man kind of said oh okay you little fascist Fauci I'll close down my businesses and I'll put masks on my kids.
	Let's talk about this and you know we've been talking every day this week about 9-11 I want to talk a little bit about the other 9-11, Benghazi 2012.
	Can you just give us your reaction to Hillary's, what difference does it make?
	You know, I see that, and of course that sickens me.
	It makes me, I don't say angry, it just makes me ill, and it always has, but it was the stuff she said after, so it doesn't happen again.
	You could have done something, her and Obama.
	Don't forget, Obama had some culpability there, too.
	He was Commander-in-Chief.
	And they could have done something to stop the deaths of Tyrone, of Glenn, of Chris, of Sean, by just sending some help.
	Or allowing us off our leashes so we could go there and help earlier than what we did before we eventually just had to buck order.
	I'll be honest, what difference does it make?
	That soundbite, of course it makes me ill, but it's what she said after, like, so it doesn't happen again.
	Well, you could have done something so it wouldn't have happened then, but you chose to leave us behind along with the rest of the administration.
	And, you know, the more the years that pass, Sebastian, and the more time that passes, and the more time I have to reflect and look back, You know, I hate to say it, but I do feel like, man, they just left us.
	They wanted us to die.
	Or maybe they didn't want us to, but they just didn't want to do anything, and then they could wash their hands of it all when we were all dead at the end of the next morning.
	I'll be honest, it's the after, the stuff she said after, that really bothers me more than just that soundbite, which, yeah, it was... Well, and also the lies, the lies of the administration.
	It was a video on YouTube, it was a random riot that went out of control.
	Let's remember those that we lost that day.
	Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith.
	Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
	Many lives were saved today because of people like Chris.
	You can see him portrayed by an actor, but it's a very good movie in 13 hours, if you haven't seen 13 hours.
	We're going to keep you over to talk guns in the next segment, but very briefly, Chris, How do you see us now?
	Is America in more danger than it was back then, given what's happened in the last two and a half years?
	Oh yeah, I don't think.
	Looking around, I think we're more susceptible to an attack.
	I think we're more susceptible to attack on our own soil, again, just by the borders.
	And you talk about it a lot, Sebastian.
	I listen to your show when I'm not on it.
	And just the open borders, we're allowing ourselves to be set up for failure and see another, hopefully not to the scale of the 9-11 that we saw 22 years ago, but we're setting us up for failure to an attack, even on our own soil.
	So no, are we any stronger than we were just a few years ago?
	No, heck no.
	We're weaker in the ability of the enemy to infiltrate us and to do a clandestine attack, which can turn into something Extremely bad is higher than it was.
	I think it's higher than it's ever been.
	150 people from the terror watch list intercepted recently crossing our border.
	Remember 9-11 was 14.
	14 terrorists.
	We're talking about 10 times that.
	He's the author of The Ranger Way, host of the Battle Line podcast.
	Follow him at TantoPoranto.
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	And is it for rifles or is it like nods?
	What is it?
	No, it's both.
	But it's primarily Milgrave Nodds.
	It's Nodds.
	They're, you know, we're talking the high-end $30,000, you know, four bangers and then also the 14s.
	But a lot for the guys that are big hunters too.
	Coyote hunting.
	But do they have them to put on rifles as well?
	Yeah, they have some rifle stuff as well.
	So we've got some rifle night vision, but it is primarily the nods.
	It's primarily the helmet mounted or head mounted.
	Very cool.
	And what's the other company?
	You said an ammo company?
	Yeah, Fort Scott Munitions.
	Fort Scott Munitions from Fort Scott.
	Actually, Sebastian, that's where I moved.
	That's where I live.
	I live in Fort Scott, Kansas.
	So Fort Scott Munitions out of Fort Scott, Kansas.
	Very cool.
	That's handy.
	Sounds like you've got a long commute then.
	What, five minutes?
	Yeah, just down the road.
	It's just to the airport, though.
	Yeah, it's two hours.
	We are 100 miles, no interstate.
	That's why we moved.
	To be honest, after COVID, that's how we got out of the city.
	It's like, screw this.
	We're getting a small town in America.
	That's why we moved out here.
	But there is some downsides.
	Yeah, the airport, you just can't drive to the airport.
	It's a two-hour drive either way.
	There's nothing here.
	I like it.
	There's nothing here.
	Yeah, makes sense.
	Well, I hope I see you in January.
	Yes, sir.
	I do too.
	And your son, how's he doing?
	I was going to mention him in the next segment.
	He's very excited that we reconnected.
	I asked him to send me the The photograph of us in the desert because I couldn't find it.
	But he's got a message.
	I was wondering about that.
	Is he following his dad's footsteps?
	What's he doing?
	No, no.
	He's going to get a real job.
	He's actually got one now.
	So he graduated from college two years ago.
	He's working at a cancer clinic right now as a medical assistant.
	And just today, we've got the big news that he's got an interview to get into med school.
	So we're super excited.
	Oh, wow.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah, I need to get him on a speed dial.
	I got to.
	He saw my dad just before he died, after he got a stroke, and he was like four years old.
	He saw my dad in a wheelchair, and he just shared with me about two years ago.
	He said he wants to make sure nobody suffers like my dad did, so that's why he wants to be a brain surgeon.
	Wow.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's got a good heart.
	I hope I get to meet him again.
	Oh, I'll bring him out.
	I'll bring it out.
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	We met, oh my gosh, I think it was three years ago.
	It was in the desert.
	We got a photograph.
	I took my son to shoot machine guns with you at a shot show.
	We had an amazing, fun time.
	What are you carrying now?
	I got to ask you, what's your carry gun of choice now?
	You know, I do.
	I still have a staccato.
	I have a little staccato C. Which one?
	Which one?
	Which one?
	I've got the compact.
	The little compact.
	The 20.
	It's the 2011.
	The 2011.
	Yeah.
	Staccato C is what it's called.
	And then I have a staccato P as well.
	I still like glock.
	Glocks work.
	And you know, I also do like there's another one.
	And they're right here, CZ, in Kansas.
	Classic gun.
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	Cold War icon, the CZ-75.
	Absolutely.
	Nice choice.
	See, he's a gun guy because he can't give you one answer, right?
	He just, you know, this one, that one.
	Look, they're like dollar bills.
	You can't have enough of them.
	You just can't have enough of them.
	He's the host of the Battle Line podcast, the author of The Ranger Way.
	Follow him right now on Tanto Paronto.
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	But seriously, you're a gun guy, you're a former ranger, you were a CIA security guy in Benghazi.
	When you look at private citizens right now here in America, some people think it's just cyclical.
	You know, the Democrats come and go, you know, there's a Clinton assault weapons ban, and then Obama comes, and then MAG restrictions.
	It's different this time, isn't it?
	When we see what happened in New Mexico this week, it's different, isn't it?
	It is because they're pushing harder.
	I think as in the 2A community and we saw it, it's every little bit that they take, it's like chopping a tree down.
	They're taking a little bit at a time and now they're starting to take more and more because they've been able to take little and little throughout the years and we really haven't done much about it.
	So as you're seeing that in New Mexico and a buddy of mine from JSOC, we talked about it on my show yesterday.
	His name is Chris Dutchmoyer, tremendous operator in his own right.
	It's something that is, I don't want to say scary, but it's time to really push back.
	And the law enforcement are the ones that need to push back on the laws like that.
	Like that sheriff in New Mexico who said, sorry Madam Governor, we're not going to carry out an unconstitutional gun suspension.
	Correct.
	And that's what Dutch and I talked about yesterday.
	As private citizens now, yes, we did a lot within our careers, but we can say, no, we're not going to abide by it.
	But now we're breaking the law.
	Who's going to stand up to it and really do some effects and change?
	It's the law enforcement community.
	Hey, we're not going to enforce it.
	That's who needs to push back and help out.
	And I know they are.
	I know they're doing their best, but it's hard with that paycheck too.
	When the threat of you not making a paycheck and and having your family that's having holding that over your heads and not being able to to provide for your family you know yeah I understand why some law enforcement would enforce it if their jobs were at stake but hey I sacrifice my job to do the right thing and and so I'm not going to tell you have to but you guys on the law enforcement are on the front lines with these laws and if you say we're not going to force them
	I'll be honest with you, I think they, over time, yeah, they're going to go away, or at least they're not, we're going to roll our eyes on it and be like, oh, again, yeah, whatever, you know, go use it in your political endeavors, whatever you want to say, but it's ridiculous and we're not going to abide by it.
	But it's that law enforcement community that's on the front lines of this right now, along with us, but they're the ones that have the biggest push that they can really fight back by just saying, hey, we're not going to enforce that law because it's ridiculous.
	Message.
	He's at work right now.
	He's at a real job.
	I'm not gonna say what it is, but he's helping people who are in deep, deep suffering right now.
	My son just texted this.
	This is a message for Tanto.
	I said, any message for our machine gun buddy?
	He says, Fly like the wind, bullseye.
	So that's my, that's Paul's message to you.
	What is your message?
	Because thanks to COVID and other things, Democrats and violent cities run by Democrats, we've got about 40 million new gun owners in America in the last five years.
	What is your message to the new members of our two-way community who may not be gun nuts like us or former operators like you?
	What do you say to them who are new to our family, Chris?
	Well, first of all, don't buy in the stereotype.
	It's not a big alpha male beating on our chest society.
	In fact, the majority, and I say all of us, it's a fun, happy, it is go lucky society.
	We're very humble and you'll see when you come and train with people like myself.
	I have my own company called Battleline Tactical and then you can go out to the sawmill out and train with Dutch or you can go with some other.
	You'll come out and it is essentially it's a very welcoming community.
	But what I want to tell you is you got to train.
	I mean, you can buy all the gear in the world, have the greatest gun in the world, but you do need to get out there and know how to use it.
	And when you do that, you'll find that the community itself It's very welcoming.
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	We look out for each other and it's someplace you really want to be.
	And I tell you what, when you start shooting, especially if you're new after that first day, you're going to have a rush that at the end of the day, and there's not one person that I haven't had that's not been a new shoot, that's been a new shooter, that's not said at the end of the day, man, that was fun.
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	way of life.
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	My bet is right now this is a heartbroken president in the White House who is worried about his son, and we're all watching to see kind of what happens with this.
	I've never heard of this charge being brought.
	I understand it is occasionally brought here and there.
	But in the discretion, you know, I was in the Southern District of New York.
	We looked for felons who were in possession of guns.
	We did not look for People who were subject to substance abuse for 11 days in the possession of a gun.
	So this is unusual and when you hear of the two-tiered justice system, I would argue that
	Hunter Biden is getting worse of the worst of it because his last name is Biden, not the other way around.
	Joe Biden has a 100% success rate.
	of failure.
	It's really incredible.
	He has succeeded at failing in foreign policy for, what, 40 years?
	My friend, you wouldn't think, by mistake, Joe Biden would fall at least once on the right side of right on a foreign policy, right?
	Throw the dice!
	Throw the dice!
	Under meganomics, as I'm calling it, You're going to pay somewhere between 20% and 40% less than those other countries.
	Same exact drug, made by the same exact company.
	What they're trying to do is destabilize cities because it's Chicago, it's Washington, D.C.,
	it's New York, it's the narrative that these are democratic run cities and that we don't
	know how to govern and that everything is chaotic here.
	We live in a city that welcomes immigrants, and so I think we have been able to handle it.
	But I am fearful that any day planes could start coming.
	You know, what's going on inside not just the Republicans in the Senate, but the entire Republican Party.
	It is something that is hard for me to really understand.
	You know, I was in the Senate for eight years.
	I served with a number of the people who are still there.
	I used to believe they all knew better, that they went along with the criminality of Trump and his enablers for their own reasons, but that at some point they would call a halt.
	And now I don't recognize these people.
	And it's such a disservice to the country.
	And so we've got to keep fighting back as best we can.
	And I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not going to be able to do that.
	I'm not going to be able to do that.
	What's wrong?
	We have one minute.
	That cigar looked very good last night.
	It was unbelievable.
	Was it a good draw?
	Great draw.
	It was ultra corona viola, I think they call it.
	It was super long.
	It was amazing.
	Yeah.
	But a little thinner, right?
	A little thinner, yes.
	It's not, you know, it's not the big, big, big gauge.
	Right.
	But it's beautiful.
	I mean, you know, probably took me... I mean, I smoke long anyway, right?
	Because I usually like to draw it out a little bit.
	Right.
	I think it was like an hour 45.
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	Yeah.
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	It was delicious.
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	Welcome back dear friends.
	Hour two.
	That first hour was so much fun.
	We will get to some of your calls later this hour.
	So John, Antoinette, Phil.
	Jeff, maybe the best thing is if you take their numbers so we can call them back after we have got through our guests.
	We don't want to have them hanging on for so long.
	All right, where do we begin?
	We could talk about some serious factual stuff or just some cynically amusing things first.
	We'll do it with our buddy from the White House, my colleague in the Trump administration.
	He is now working for the Trump campaign, attorney to the president.
	We just call him the Baron Boris Epstein.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much.
	Amazing to be here.
	God bless you and your audience.
	It's an honor to be with you, my friend.
	Now, I don't need to give you a script.
	I don't need to give you talking points anyway, but I'm just going to unleash the Baron because this cut is rather Well, I'm just going to play it for our millions of listeners because it is mind-boggling to say the least.
	This is MSNBC.
	This is a former senator from Chappaquiddick talking about your current boss, my former boss.
	Cut seven, play cut.
	You know, what's going on inside not just the Republicans in the Senate, but the entire Republican Party.
	It is something that is hard for me to really understand.
	You know, I was in the Senate for eight years.
	I served with a number of the people who are still there.
	I used to believe they all knew better, that they went along with the criminality of Trump and his enablers for their own reasons, but that at some point they would call a halt.
	And now I don't recognize these people.
	And it's such a disservice to the country.
	And so we've got to, you know, keep fighting back as best we can.
	Barron, Hillary Clinton lecturing other people on condoning criminality.
	Your reaction, please.
	Well, President Trump did Hillary Clinton a huge favor and he retired her
	nickname, her name, while known as Crooked because she was a long time known as Crooked Hillary and
	now it's been applied to Crooked Joe Biden and his Crooked crime family.
	But the facts stand.
	Hillary Clinton was part of a criminal enterprise, there's no choice about it, that used that
	Clinton Foundation, which they're standing back up now to take money in from anybody
	and everybody, and now she's back and lecturing the American people.
	And also, it is very interesting that she's popping up right as Crooked Joe Biden is being
	derided.
	And let's be honest.
	Deeply criticized by many many mainstream outlets and where the polling is coming out of President Trump dominating Hang on hang on hang on.
	I got a case people missed it Baron.
	Yesterday CNN CNN had two segments Criticizing Joe Biden.
	I don't think I've seen one segment in the last three years.
	They had two segments!
	Are they about to pitch him?
	So CNN's been two segments criticizing crooked Joe Biden and Hillary, formerly known as Crooked Hillary, is out there all of a sudden doing TV appearances talking about her time as a senator.
	I'm not, you know, as Steve Bannon says, there are no conspiracies, but there's also no coincidences.
	So it's interesting timing, but here's the bottom line.
	The American people have rejected Hillary Clinton time and time and time and time and time again.
	The Democrat Party has rejected her time and time again.
	Americans know that the only leader we need right now is President Donald J. Trump.
	That's why he's dominating in the polls, both primary and general.
	Hillary Clinton can whine all she wants, but the American people are not listening.
	Alright, let's talk about the polls.
	We've got a couple in front of us.
	One from the Daily Caller.
	Swing state poll results could spell big trouble for Joe Biden.
	And then from our very own Eric at American Greatness.
	Quinnipiac.
	Not exactly a Trumpster poll.
	Quinnipiac.
	Trump.
	Headline.
	Trump holds 50 point lead in the GOP field.
	Boris, can they just indict him one more time so he can like have 100% of the lead?
	Here's the truth.
	The American people are so much smarter, so much more knowledgeable, and so much stronger than Democrats give them credit for.
	No matter how many attempts against President Trump and his political acumen are made, no matter how many times they try to knock President Trump off the political stage, they fail time and time again.
	Why?
	Because if you look at the difference, stark difference, and you know this better than anybody, my friend, if you're now and four years ago on energy, on the economy, on the border, on national security, on dealing with adversaries and allies alike, there's never been a starker Let's talk about the crooked crime family that is the Biden cartel.
	This is a man who served as one of the chief counsels in the witch hunt that was impeachment, scion of the Levi Strauss family, former prosecutor, which is shocking.
	And that's where we're headed now.
	This is Congressman Dan Goldman, um, talking about Hunter Biden.
	Cut 4.
	I've never heard of this charge being brought. I understand it is occasionally brought here and there.
	But in the discretion, you know, I was in the Southern District of New York.
	We looked for felons who were in possession of guns.
	We did not look for people who were subject to substance abuse for 11 days in the possession of a gun.
	So this is unusual, and when you hear of the two-tiered justice system, I would argue that Hunter Biden is getting the worst of it because his last name is Biden, not the other way around.
	So a former prosecutor from New York has never heard of this charge before, which is weird and will come as a surprise to many men who are in prison right now because they lied on a federal background check to purchase a handgun.
	And then, I don't know if there's any... This is the new Adam Schiff.
	I think this is the new Adam Schiff.
	Boris, where does he get this?
	Suffered from drug abuse for 11 days.
	Because I guarantee you on the Hunter Biden laptop, it's probably about 11 years worth of evidence.
	It seems like Congressman Goldman is now so in the pocket of Crooked Joe and the crime family that he's literally willing to say anything, and that's been happening over the last six months.
	He's going out there, and he's making excuse after excuse after excuse.
	And listen to the beginning of that cut.
	Oh, I've never heard of it, but I do understand that it is used sometimes.
	Well, it can't be both.
	Have you never heard of it?
	Or do you understand it's used from time to time?
	Which one is it?
	I mean, and this guy was supposedly in court of the Southern District of New York.
	I mean, he's an embarrassment to the legal profession, an embarrassment to prosecutors, an embarrassment to the Democrat Party, and an embarrassment to the U.S.
	Congress.
	Dan Goldman ought to be ashamed of himself, and he's been making himself shameful for months and months and months.
	This guy's a disaster, but you know what?
	Let him keep talking, because the more he talks, again, the more American people deride the crooked Democrats.
	Right, talking of embarrassments, his father, the current incumbent of the White House, Jeff, this screaming cut, when did Slow Joe do this?
	That was yesterday, but he might have done it again today in another speech.
	This is just so... I'm just going to show this so our listeners can hear it and our viewers can watch it.
	For some reason, he's at a podium and the guy who's got the nuclear football within 30 feet of him being held by his military aid, he just starts shouting.
	It's so creepy.
	Play cut.
	You're going to pay somewhere between 20% and 40% less than those other countries.
	Same exact drug.
	Made by the same exact company.
	Why is he doing that?
	Is he getting a bit nervous, Baron?
	It's because he has no idea where he is, no idea what he's doing.
	He's in complete and total embarrassment.
	And, you know, we laugh about it, we talk about it, but here's the reality.
	You better believe Xi Jinping isn't laughing.
	The mullahs in Iran aren't laughing.
	Vladimir Putin isn't laughing.
	Our adversaries all over the world see this weakness, and that's why, as President Trump
	has said over and over again, and specifically in the interviews in the last several days,
	that is why they keep moving against the United States of America.
	And again, look at the—not about age.
	It's not about age.
	Joe Biden isn't old.
	He's decrepit and incompetent.
	That's what it is.
	And he has no business, no business, even thinking about running for president.
	He's not even thinking about running for president.
	He's not even thinking about running for president.
	Okay, so if he doesn't run, if CNN is throwing him under the bus, is there any way they can parachute in, you know, a Gavin Newsom in front of a black woman?
	Can the Democrats get away with that, Boris?
	Democrats get away with it.
	They're going to try to get away with whatever they want, right?
	Because they are so shameless and they are so cynical.
	So, are they going to maybe attempt that?
	You know, absolutely they could.
	But Gavin Newsom's got out there and said he doesn't want any part of it.
	Why?
	Because he doesn't want to run through the meat grinder that's running against President Donald J. Trump.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	Remember there was this guy in Florida, I think he's the governor, and he was like a real darling.
	Who's that?
	It's like Rob or Rick, and I think it's DeSanctimonious or something.
	The governor is 50 points behind.
	What about the governor of a disaster like California?
	That's why he's the baron.
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	I'm probably going to need the milli-cut we used earlier today.
	Will you start playing 12, please, Eric?
	Well, in my opinion, we're not doing enough.
	I mean, look, when push comes to shove, absolutely, the FBI and DOJ need to band together and protect their personnel to allow them to do their job.
	They're going to do it, but they need to be able to do that without fear for their lives.
	When the FBI was fighting Al Capone, there was not a unit dedicated to protecting FBI personnel.
	When the FBI was fighting organized crime families in New York and all around the U.S., there was not a unit dedicated to protecting FBI personnel.
	I'm shocked by the fact you threw out that quote from testimony from an FBI agent to the House Judiciary Committee.
	Who's the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee?
	Jim Jordan.
	And yet, Jim Jordan, hearing that these threats to this AUSA are resulting, are coming about from being publicized, he nevertheless goes on television and, you know, appears in the same, you know, little snips that you showed, repeating the name of this AUSA.
	So, congressmen, senators, they don't care about this threat, but we need to be doing more.
	In my opinion, I'm glad to see the FBI and Director Wray and others starting to talk about this, but we need to talk about it even more.
	What?
	My wife works at the FDA.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
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	Happy Friday.
	Hey, good to be with you.
	All right, you are Mr., amongst other things, Mr. Homeland Security.
	You've written a few books about that, literal textbooks.
	This is a fascinating take.
	There's a woman called Karen Bass.
	She is, I believe, the mayor of Los Angeles.
	And she's got this weird theory about illegal immigrants and what's behind what we've been witnessing for the last two years.
	And I'd like your non-political, professional take on this.
	Cut 13.
	What they're trying to do is destabilize cities because it's Chicago, it's Washington, D.C., it's New York.
	It's the narrative that these are Democratic-run cities and that we don't know how to govern and that everything is chaotic here.
	We live in a city that welcomes immigrants.
	And so I think we have been able to handle it.
	But I am fearful that any day planes could start coming.
	So it's the Republicans, it's the people out of office, I guess, that are consciously destabilizing.
	Hang on, have you heard of this phrase?
	I think it's called Sanctuary City?
	Your face!
	Your face!
	I thought you were showing me an SNL skit.
	I did not.
	Because SNL's not that funny anymore.
	So, you know, there is a bit of a mythology here that's a bit of overblown that people talk about the buses coming from Texas and Florida and they take them to Martha's Vineyard.
	Okay, maybe it's a couple of hundred or a couple of thousand.
	Hang on, there were 43 that arrived on Martha's Vineyard, remember?
	43, right.
	And the National Guard was activated.
	That's right.
	And all 43 of them were taken away.
	But the reality is, the numbers are in the tens and hundreds of thousands, and it's the U.S.
	government that is taking them to these places, and the U.S.
	government that is paying NGOs, which are supposed to be helping refugees and little starving children.
	And here's the deal.
	The entire human trafficking network, which is global now, which is the world's largest global human trafficking network, which is netting the cartels tens of billions of dollars profit, every bit of that network is paid for by Seb Gorka and every other American taxpayer.
	We have underwritten the entire invasion.
	I mean, that's the definition of gaslighting.
	When a Democrat mayor says, it's not us, somebody's destabilizing our cities?
	It's the White House!
	Let me get this straight.
	Every single major Democratic-run city in this country is underwater on crime, underwater on homelessness, underwater on drug abuse, underwater on illegal aliens, and underwater running in a deficit.
	Every single one of those.
	It's got to be Trump.
	It's going to be the republicans.
	It's heritage!
	Did heritage do it?
	Or did you guys?
	You know, honestly, if you could oppose that, then let's be honest, Joe Biden and that mayor, they would all be sitting around the table and saying, oh, how can we do this to Nashville and, you know, Dallas?
	It's unbelievable.
	And I'm not asking politics.
	I'm very cautious with you because it's heritage, whatever.
	But when Eric Adams goes on this tirade a few days ago saying they're destabilizing New York, and he lists the Senegalese, the Cameroon, the Hondurans, does this mean that they're waking up or is it just going to be more gaslighting?
	It's interesting, right?
	It's the same talking point, right?
	We're being destabilized.
	Yes.
	And so that's the point.
	It is talking points.
	It's just like when Biden comes out and he says, here are the talking points you should
	be saying about the Hunter Biden thing.
	This is really a pathology of modern democratic governance and rhetoric, which is we control
	the media.
	We control the punditry.
	And therefore, it's about setting out a narrative.
	Not about addressing problems.
	Not about solving problems.
	Not about being honest about problems.
	It's just about putting out a message.
	So they're just shifting the talking point.
	Lying is not lying.
	Lying is just the foundation of democratic politics.
	And there is nothing, there is no lie too big to tell, because they'll never get held accountable.
	Well, let's show Jim what we opened the show with.
	This is AOC in New York this morning, 11 o'clock, surrounded by Democrats.
	This isn't Republicans.
	This is about immigration.
	Play cut.
	Yes, and ultimately I think that there are three points of consensus here that are very important in getting a solution to this issue.
	The first is that there is consensus here across geography and states on increased federal resources to cities and municipalities dealing with this issue.
	The second is to allow for work authorizations so that the folks in here Stop shouting!
	There's a consensus!
	Why are you shouting?
	There's a consensus!
	So literally, the city is drowning in illegal immigration as a result of over-border policies, and you tell your political leaders, go to the city and tell them it's not a problem.
	It's like, go to the Alamo and just tell Santa Ana, back off!
	So, is this maintainable?
	No!
	I don't think... Well, this is what we'll find out.
	And again, don't do politics.
	I do policy, but...
	If you look at the real core issues in America today, crime, the energy prices, the environment, what's going on in our schools, illegal immigration, these are things that are inside every American community.
	And if your narrative is, Bidenomics is great, everything's fine, the border's secure, there are 47 genders... You'll be punished.
	Well, we'll see, right?
	That's the real thing.
	But it's different.
	You know, we could have a huge debate about Ukraine and about whether good, bad, we're winning the war, we're losing the war, and that is so kind of cotton candy to Americans because they don't see that.
	But this is stuff... This is real.
	This is real.
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	Just don't touch Like we just sat around and said roll the tape and then just talk about it.
	Oh my god.
	That would be fun.
	We could do like an hour a week of like our libs of TikTok.
	That would be great.
	I mean that would be, it's just priceless.
	I used to have a tie just like that.
	Red dots on yellow.
	It was one of my favorites.
	It's very cool.
	I don't wear brown enough actually.
	Where are you going tonight?
	What's anywhere good?
	Good food?
	The Polish embassies host, there's like nine political directors from like nine European countries.
	They're going to do a little conference tomorrow and the Polish guys are hosting.
	But I'm not going.
	It's good because I'm not going because tomorrow I'm flying to Rome.
	Oh, a hardship trip.
	Rome, Budapest.
	Hey Seb, I have that Daily Signal video.
	and then back. You should just get an apartment at this point in Budapest.
	Yeah and actually I also, while I'm in Rome, I have a team in Madrid so a lot of
	people in Rome, Madrid, Budapest. You mean you have people going to Madrid? Going to
	Madrid for a conference, yeah. So it's it's... Hey Seb, I have that Daily Signal video.
	Can you play it? Play back one guy. New information on a deadly Texas crash that
	that claim the life of a grandmother and her granddaughter.
	We first told you earlier this month that the person accused of being behind the wheel causing that fatal West Texas crash that killed four people, a Bossier City man.
	But sadly, there is so much more to this story than just this crash.
	That Bossier man was allegedly involved in human smuggling with 11 undocumented immigrants in his vehicle at the time of the crash.
	He was evading police.
	We were told that he was recruited on TikTok by the cartel.
	He was on Facebook Live and he turned the camera to the speedometer and he was going over 105 miles an hour.
	He came straight off that exit and he ran that red light and he crashed into her and killed them.
	Wow.
	He mutilated them.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Let's play that at the top.
	Come in with it or tee it up?
	No, I'll do my pillow, then I'll tee that up.
	Pillow and then tee it up.
	All righty.
	Wow.
	Can Geoff hear me when he's over there?
	I believe he can.
	I just need the names, the family names, by the time we finish playing.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Do I owe you titles?
	Just for Boris.
	Probably Hillary would be fine.
	Oh yeah.
	The most ironic thing Hillary Clinton has ever said?
	Okay.
	I Oh, we're forgetting to do polls.
	We've got to do polls, Eric.
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	It also has an amazing, I don't know, you call it new service.
	I love the Daily Signal run by Rob Louis.
	And thanks to Jim, I wasn't even aware of this, they've just posted this It's a heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy video about the real cost of illegal migration.
	It's an interview with Elsia Tambunga, who just lost her beautiful daughter and her mother.
	Here's how it happened.
	Two information on a deadly Texas crash that claimed the life of a grandmother and her granddaughter.
	We first told you earlier this month that the person accused of being behind the wheel causing that fatal West Texas crash that killed four people, a Bossier City man.
	But sadly, there is so much more to this story than just this crash.
	That Bossier man was allegedly involved in human smuggling with 11 undocumented immigrants in his vehicle at the time of the crash.
	He was Evading police.
	We were told that he was recruited on TikTok by the cartel.
	He was on Facebook live and he turned the camera to the speedometer and he was going over 105 miles an hour.
	He came straight off that exit and he ran that red light and he crashed into her and killed them.
	He mutilated them.
	Beautiful little girl called Amelia.
	I've reposted the whole video.
	It's just seven minutes long.
	It's on my Twitter feed.
	Watch it after the show.
	Watch the whole thing.
	Jim, this is when you realize there's just no excuse.
	Yeah, you know, and it's because we tend to get lost in the numbers.
	I mean, after a while, you know, hundreds of thousands and then you try to bring the humanity to it and it's not Exploitative.
	It's not, go find me a sad case.
	Honestly, this is just what's going on out there.
	We have the most dangerous border in the world.
	Those beautiful women are dead.
	And I don't say this with any cruelty or hatred or partisanship whatsoever.
	They're dead because of Joe Biden.
	They're dead because our open border policies have created the world's largest human trafficking network and literally thousands of people are crossing.
	They're being victimized, we're being victimized.
	But there's an aspect of that video that, so it's not just there's a broken system and somebody on the outskirts is exploiting it.
	When it's so brazen that the guy's live streaming it, he's got 11 guys in the back, he's doing 110 and he's filming it, it's like, it's the arrogance of the legality.
	Dude, we should go back to, somebody said, what the heck, he's live streaming it on Facebook?
	What's that all about?
	And the answer is, dude, that's advertising.
	Right.
	They are showing to you.
	This is what we can do.
	This is the service that we can provide.
	We will race at 105 miles an hour and get you.
	So, and this system, and it's not a tragedy.
	Well, it's the system broke down or whatever.
	This is a system that was intentionally created by the president.
	With an end state, which can only be one thing, which is that literally a billion people will walk into the United States at the end of this process.
	A billion people.
	And we will cease to be the country who we are.
	No country in the world has a process like this.
	And people look at me and say, that's impossible, Jim, a billion people.
	When this started, I said that we would have one to two million people in the first year.
	I said at the end of Biden's term, we would double the illegal population in the United States.
	You know what?
	I undersold it.
	You don't do politics.
	I'm going to do the political part of it because, you know, I mean, that's just pure tragedy and it's happening every day.
	And not just that, there are girls being raped, women being raped, abused by the traffickers, by the coyotes.
	The ultimate cynicism of it all is what?
	Why is it happening?
	Really, why is it happening?
	Because we have an administration, we have a political party that believes, oh, they've got brown skin?
	Well, we'll just amnesty them, and if they've got brown skin, they're going to vote for us.
	The ultimate in bigotry.
	The ultimate in racism.
	Your skin color means you're going to be on our political plantation.
	Watch the video.
	It's at the top of my Twitter feed.
	I'm going to repost it right now on Truth Social in the break.
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	Let's go to Phil in Philly!
	Hey, Dr. G, thanks for taking the call.
	I mean, we're sitting here pulling our hair out trying to make sense of what's going on, and then it hit us.
	We're living in the United States of America as if the Confederate Democratic South had won the Civil War.
	And we coined it.
	We coined it as Democratic Cotton.
	They tried to bring in England.
	Yes.
	with the influence of their cotton at cost.
	England could have cornered the European market with cotton, but they backed off.
	Right now, they have democratic cotton with the CCP.
	And what is it?
	Real quick, real quick.
	It's our children, it's our freedoms, it's our jobs, it's our minerals, it's our borders, it's our cops,
	it's our military demoralized.
	Hang on, when you say we came up with this, who's your little band of merry men?
	Who are the people who came up with this, Phil?
	We have a walking group that goes around our grandchildren's schools in the morning and at dismissal.
	Just a bunch of retired vets and retired guys.
	That's so cool!
	And you just talk politics while you're walking your grandkids around?
	Well look, we're trying to get a manhood hour in their school, but we're getting some resistance.
	Dude!
	You've got to.
	You've got to do it.
	And a womanhood hour to let these young women, 7th and 8th grade girls and 7th and 8th grade boys, let to know what it's like to be a man and a woman and grow up what you're doing.
	But Dr. G, there's only one way out of this.
	And we have to file suits somehow with the election boards to have mandatory co-verifiers.
	When they were doing this in Philly in 2020, they shut down the counting.
	They would not let any Republicans in to verify counts.
	When they shut down at 4 a.m. and magically by 8 a.m., Biden was up by half a million votes here in Philly,
	they wouldn't let one Republican in there, even though we had a court order.
	They barricaded it off and kept us out.
	But we need to have a mandate that we can get in.
	I mean, they got the Dominion.
	It's insane what's going on, but we have to have somebody side by side with these Dems in order to count these votes.
	Yeah, you can't have one vote counted.
	And I mean the early voting, the mail-in voting, the election day voting.
	Not one vote, one ballot should be counted unless it is counted by both sides.
	There's got to be An election official, a poll watcher, a delegate who is from the GOP.
	And that's up to the local party and also up to the RNC.
	Beautifully put, Phil.
	I love it.
	Yeah, it's as if the South won.
	It's as if the racists, the bigots, won.
	Amazingly put, Phil.
	Keep sending us your superb ideas from your little walking group.
	Absolutely superb.
	Let's go to, we're talking about manhood hour.
	Let's talk about the womanhood hour.
	One of our ladies of America First, Antoinette.
	I ran out of time to talk 9-11 with you.
	Tell us about your 9-11 story.
	First, I do want to coincide with what Sally said.
	You have had the most powerful week, and I honor you and your staff, that you've mentioned and spoken about 9-11 all week, Dr. G. It's been magnificent, and a lot of people that can listen to you, they've mentioned it to me, how wonderful it is to hear you guys have been doing this.
	So it wasn't too much, Antoinette.
	Oh, hell no!
	It needed to be more!
	But the fact that you've honored it all week, thank you.
	We're going with that.
	But my 9-11 story is the following.
	For those that sacrificed and paid the ultimate price on Monday, September the 11th, today, Friday, I didn't even realize it until the other day, it's 22 years later.
	This exact day, September 15th, was on this Friday.
	I was catching a plane out of John Wayne Airport, which is there on the border of
	Newport Beach and Santa Ana, and everybody was quiet and we were the
	first plane to take off since all the airplanes had been grounded.
	Oh, you were the first plane after 9-11 out of that airport?
	Yes, and Dr. G, everybody was quiet, quiet, because I was going up to San Francisco
	I was either going to drive or fly.
	I wasn't sure at that moment yet.
	They said we were going to take go.
	So we boarded.
	Everybody was totally quiet.
	And you could just hear the engines.
	And as we got onto the active runway, and we're getting ready to take off, and we took off.
	And everybody cheered.
	And said, USA, USA, we were on our way back in the air.
	This mayor, Karen Bass in LA, saying about the illegal immigrants and planes arriving.
	It's ridiculous that, you know, what are we going to ban planes?
	Are we going to ban guns?
	Because it's people and all the immigration that's going on at our borders.
	There's so many people that are, I believe, terrorists and my alpha man in my life.
	has been looking live on the border.
	That's a Chinese military.
	That's Chinese military.
	That's Chinese military.
	We have to be prepared.
	Thank you. Thank you for remembering 9-11, because today, September 15th,
	is exactly 22 years ago.
	I got on that plane, and everybody was just cheering and saying, USA.
	We cannot never forget.
	Thank you for that moving, moving story, Antoinette.
	Yeah, I wasn't sure every day I was...
	Prepping for the show and we're discussing cuts with the team.
	Do I do another day?
	Do I talk more about 9-11?
	And you just reaffirmed it for me.
	I think after those events it's the least we can do.
	Just a few minutes every day for a week to remember what happened.
	To remember those who died.
	Remember those who were left.
	And also the remaining threat as we talk about 150 people on the terror watch list recently crossed the border.
	I've said this before a long time ago but I'll say it again right now.
	The front line in the war to protect America is on your doorstep now more than ever.
	Are you prepared to defend your loved ones?
	Because under this regime you may have to.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	We'll get to John after the break.
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	Can you show me, well we'll do it on Monday, but can you show me what the images in B-roll looks like for Alan Moore?
	Alan Moore.
	Give me a moment here.
	Okay, here's him.
	I have it muted.
	Oh, good.
	What are those socks, even?
	I can always judge a man by their socks.
	Alright.
	Images.
	Alright, cut to him.
	Expression 2, so of course I had V for Vendetta.
	Yep.
	Watchmen.
	And then this is what showed up when I looked for his first Batman story.
	Oh, cool.
	Apparently.
	Oh, and of course his most famous one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But didn't he do Dark Knight?
	I thought he did Dark Knight.
	Dark Knight Returns?
	I don't think that was him.
	Let me check.
	That's the most, like, infamous one.
	Let me see.
	No, that was by Frank Miller.
	Oh, Frank Miller.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Imagine if that was made into a movie.
	Oh my goodness.
	Giuliani website.
	Thank you.
	Rudy Fund.
	Yup.
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	We have been remembering 9-11 all week.
	Also the other 9-11 Benghazi today and the day before.
	I want you to support one of the great heroes of 9-11.
	The man that put New York back together.
	One of the greatest mayors in history, if not the best we've ever had.
	And that is my friend Rudy Giuliani.
	He's one of the 19 indictees along with President Trump out of Georgia.
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	All right.
	John's been waiting a long time.
	San Diego.
	Welcome, John.
	Happy Friday.
	Hi.
	How you doing?
	Getting back to the congressman and the budget, there are two ways to reduce spending.
	One is get rid of grants.gov.
	Turn it into a crowdfunding website.
	Get rid of what?
	Grants.gov.
	Okay.
	They give away 500 billion dollars a year.
	I don't think getting rid of a website will stop the spending, but carry on.
	Well, the website is how you get the money spent.
	You privatize it and let citizens and business spend the money instead of the government.
	Hang on, how does that work?
	Explain how the citizens spend the money.
	How does that work?
	By turning it into a crowdfunding website just like Kickstarter.
	But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	We don't want to be spending money on the crap the government's spending money on.
	Even our own money.
	Why would we do that, John?
	And anyway, it's all our money.
	The kind of insane garbage they sell.
	A more solar panel industry that's, you know, like Solyndra.
	No, John.
	I don't want to spend money on any of it.
	Wrong.
	Absolutely wrong.
	Next suggestion.
	Okay, you get rid of the 5% interest we're paying on the debt now.
	Low interest rates did not cause inflation, and high interest rates have never stopped inflation.
	They make it worse.
	You're actually creating money out of nothing for the same service.
	It's the definition of inflation.
	Next year, $7 trillion worth of Treasury bonds mature, and they're going to go from 1% to
	5%.
	Right, but that's like dickering around the edges.
	That's like saying, don't play classical music on the deck of the Titanic.
	Yeah, of course, interest rates are central to inflation, but that's not the issue.
	The issue isn't 1% to 5% on Treasury yields.
	I'm going to get all nerdy here.
	The issue is that both parties think it's not their money.
	Both parties think they can print it or they can tax us into oblivion.
	That's the issue.
	We have to have some kind of bloody adults behaving like adults on Capitol Hill.
	So John, let's continue the conversation but let's stick to the actual heart of the matter.
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	Machines are gonna fail.
	And the system's gonna fail.
	I'm going to go ahead and get my phone.
	Then?
	And then what?
	Then survival.
	Who has the ability to survive.
	That's the game.
	Survival.
	And you can't wait for it to happen, can you?
	You can't wait for it.
	That's the question.
	What happens to civilized men when everything else collapses?
	Can they become killers?
	Can they protect that which they love?
	Is that the message of this week's movie?
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	The choice is deliverance.
	1972, John Borman.
	And my co-host, I think, will have an idea or two.
	He is the host of the superb channels The Alpha Critic and Mr. Reagan on YouTube.
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	But he is Chris Coles.
	Chris!
	What do you think of this movie?
	This movie...
	is a classic for a reason.
	It is a spectacular film, but it's a lot like Germany.
	This film is a lot like Germany.
	Germany has a fascinating history.
	It's an amazing country with amazing people.
	But you know what?
	Oftentimes, people only really remember Germany for one little moment in time, like about 10 years there.
	And much like this excellent film, a magnificent film from beginning to end, people tend to only remember one little scene.
	And I think one particular phrase, squeal like a pig!
	Yeah, squeal like a pig.
	I watched this lefty.
	I'm so glad you brought this up at the beginning because we might not get to talk about everything we want to talk about when it comes to this movie today because of certain things we have planned.
	But I watched a lefty, a big lefty, who did a series of BBC documentaries.
	And he's from the South.
	And he did a whole thing about misconceptions of the South.
	And he said, if you think, if you've never been to the South,
	and somebody says the South to you, what is the likelihood that you're gonna think,
	squeal like a pig, or duel in banjos?
	I mean the cultural significance of Dueling Banjos and Squeal Like a Pig.
	It's hard to imagine a movie, a 90-minute movie, that has more lasting cultural impact than this one.
	No, yeah, it's incredible.
	It's incredible.
	Well, it was a fantastic movie at the time.
	It was really shocking.
	Yeah.
	But, I mean, if you watch it from beginning to end, it is unbelievably suspenseful.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievably suspenseful.
	And there's a reason for that.
	Listen, you know, it's funny.
	I told my mother we were doing this movie, and she said to me something that, I mean, I almost fell out of my seat.
	She said, this is one of my favorite movies of all time.
	What?
	I said, Mom, why?
	And her answer made a lot of sense.
	She goes, well, Burt Reynolds, he was pretty cute in that movie.
	That was her reasoning.
	I think it was the sleeveless scuba top, right?
	It's this sleeveless neoprene scuba jacket.
	I mean, he looked good.
	He looked good.
	The man looked good.
	But, you know, I'll tell you what, the cinematography is brilliant.
	It's perfect for this movie because it gives us it's kind of raw looking.
	It looks raw.
	Right.
	And nature was raw.
	Yes.
	And so it kind of gives that sense.
	The audio is also like that.
	You know, they were using that analog tape to record everything.
	And you can't record their voices on the river, so that has to all be done what they call ADR in post.
	And that all sounded very raw, because all the transfers and everything.
	So the quality is almost surreal, almost hyper-realistic.
	And yeah, the way they did this film is excellent.
	But what I figured out as I was reviewing this film, I actually took notes, which I never take notes, but for obvious reasons, I took notes today.
	But it's a great script, of course.
	Then you've got dueling banjos, which I'm sure we'll get into.
	Phenomenal score.
	But what it all boils down to, and I'm not just trying to be flattering to certain people, it really does come down to the acting.
	Totally.
	There's certain kinds of genres of film you can get away with not acting so well, like comedy stuff.
	This particular film would never have worked if the performances weren't spot-on perfect.
	And each actor did their job exactly right.
	It was so naturalistic, Even the author of the book, the book, Deliverance, was cast as the sheriff at the end of the film.
	And he was phenomenal.
	His performance is just... never acted before in his life.
	Nervous like all get out and his words at the end when he says, we'd like this town to die peaceful.
	I mean, it's just... and let's just get a little into the weeds here because the British director Borman, he selected four actors and this is just four guys, really.
	It's about four guys and the two evil guys who get killed.
	Who are completely different.
	One of them, Jon Voight, who really becomes the star, was a method actor.
	Burt Reynolds became this super, you know, Hollywood sex symbol.
	And then Ned Beatty and Ronnie Cox had never been in a film before.
	And they were southern actors from the theatre rep circuit.
	And you take two rep actors, never done movies, you take a stud who'd done two TV shows that were kind of pretty floppish, and then Jon Voight, and Matt, I don't know, it's like movie magic.
	No, I mean, the casting was beautiful.
	I mean, Jon Voight obviously was a star already from Midnight Cowboy, but yeah, the other guys were sort of unknown actors.
	Burt Reynolds, it almost seems like Burt Reynolds' movie at the beginning of the movie, because he's like the superhero type guy, right?
	But really, it is Jon Voight's film.
	I mean, it's his character's film, Ed.
	It's his story arc, because he's kind of like a redemption character, right?
	At the beginning, he's got the bow and arrow.
	He can't shoot the deer.
	You know, Burt Reynolds' character would have been able to shoot the deer, no problem.
	Well, what's that phrase he uses?
	The hunter's fugue, where you can't release the shot.
	You just can't kill the living being.
	Yeah, I don't know if that's a real thing.
	I assume that it is, but it was very compelling, you know, in the film because he's shaking like crazy and he cannot shoot this deer because it's a living thing and he can't do it.
	But then toward the end of the film, he's got to shoot this man, a human being, which is obviously far more, you know, it's going to be far more profound for him.
	But he's got to do it, otherwise they're going to be killed.
	And he manages to come through, and that is his redemptive moment.
	He sort of becomes... What is his name?
	Lewis?
	Lewis.
	He becomes Lewis.
	He becomes Burt Reynolds' character, in a way.
	This is why I love this movie.
	Burt Reynolds is naturally a warrior in this film.
	He loves it.
	He craves it.
	He goes after that stuff.
	But the other character, Ed, is his name.
	John Voight's character.
	He's not naturally like that.
	He's a suburban guy.
	He's a sort of like soft-spoken, almost a gentleman, right?
	He's not used to that lifestyle.
	He doesn't have to be tough in his regular life, but he's got it in him.
	He's got it in him, and he just doesn't know it.
	And it's got to take something like this, this kind of trauma, to draw the warrior out of John Voight, which may exist in all men, or at least most, but it certainly existed in that man.
	And it's that triggering moment where, you know, the hero is incapacitated, broken his leg.
	He thinks that they're being hunted down by the surviving hillbilly.
	He has to climb the cliff.
	He looks at the photograph of his wife and child and he loses it and he thinks everything's gone.
	And then he finds the other man, he wakes up, he sees the other man drawing a bead on his friends, and he has to decide.
	What category, before we move on, what category of movie is this?
	Because I was surprised a couple of places had this listed as a horror movie.
	What is it for you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I can understand that.
	I mean, it does seem like a horror movie.
	I mean, in that one specific scene, for sure, It feels like a horror movie, and then they're being hunted later on, so it does feel like a horror movie.
	But, I don't know, it's more of a suspense thriller.
	Often times we think of suspense thrillers as like spy movies.
	Yes.
	But in this case, it's just a very different movie.
	It's a very unique film.
	A lot of the films that I think you and I have reviewed, that seem to be the best films, do sort of exist in their own category, and I think this is an example of that.
	Perfect answer.
	Perfect answer.
	And of course, beautifully shot by the legendary director of photography, Vilmos Sigmund.
	Absolutely beautiful.
	John Borman, Vilmos Sigmund and an amazing cast.
	All right, we are making movies great again.
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	Quite a change from the movie we reviewed last week.
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	The most memorable moment, the dueling banjos from Deliverance.
	Chris, we've decided this is a sui generis movie, unique.
	It's listed in, of the best hundred movies of the 20th century, it's always in there.
	Talk to us a little bit about, you're right, there's a kind of bait-and-switch with the heroic, bow-wielding Burt Reynolds.
	Who halfway through the movie, he's incapacitated.
	And then the real arc is from another character.
	Talk to us about that arc as an actor, as a writer.
	We're kind of surprised by what happens.
	Oh yeah.
	I mean, well, here's, this is the message I think that is so critical in this film.
	It's like every man needs to connect to nature, right?
	That's obviously a major theme of this.
	Brotherhood is a major theme of this film.
	But it's also this idea that we have within us this innate, you know, power as a man, this masculinity.
	You know, the left would look at this film and they would say, you know who conservatives are?
	You know who the masculine men are?
	They're those two rednecks that attacked the Ned Beatty character.
	Well, no, that's not right.
	That's not right.
	The masculine man, the conservative masculine man, the good man, you know, Yeah, I think this showcases exactly why masculinity is so critical in our society.
	He's the guy that's trying to protect people.
	Those rednecks, those are Democrat politicians.
	And the Ned Beattie characters, Democrat voters that are fooled by them.
	You know, they're the victims, I think.
	So that's another analogy I'd like to put out there.
	But yeah, I think this showcases exactly why masculinity is so critical in our society.
	When you have somebody like Ed—his name's Ed in the film, it's Jon Voight's character—
	When you have somebody like that, who seems to be just a regular suburban guy, rise up to that challenge and become the man he needs to be, that's very inspirational and that's a very important message that I think has been lost in our modern society.
	Well, you had a fabulous idea after I chose this movie to review this week and thanks to my colleagues at Newsmax we made it happen and we are Honored to be joined by the man who can answer the question about the arc of that character, the legend of Hollywood, Jon Voight.
	Welcome, sir, to Making Movies Great Again.
	Well, thanks very much, Sebastian.
	Nice to be with you.
	We have a long list of questions we want to ask you on all kinds of topics, and all kinds of other movies that are very close to our heart.
	For me, it's Mission Impossible.
	For Chris, it's The Odessa File, which again is a legendary movie.
	But talk to us about the experience, because this Was not an easy movie to make.
	And allegedly, you're the man climbing the cliff at the end.
	So share a little bit of the inside of working with Borman, working with the late Burt Reynolds, and what the experience of working with Dickie was like, the legendary poet and author of the original book.
	Well, that's an awful lot of questions.
	And I only have a short amount of time, I suppose.
	But one of the interesting things that Chris didn't mention was this theme of what happens if society fails and we're on our own to deal with survival, right?
	At one point in the picture, Burt says to me, as Lewis, the character Lewis, he says, the machines are going to fail and the system is going to fail.
	And then I say to him, I say, and then what, Lewis?
	And he says, then it's survival, the ability to survive.
	Now, that That's really what we were left with, do you see what I mean?
	That structure that he proposes in those few words is exactly what happens.
	Everything falls into our lap.
	Nothing works.
	We're in real trouble.
	We have to survive.
	Now, how are we going to do it?
	And are we prepared to make that move, do you see?
	And that's what the picture was about to me.
	Now, when you talk about its relevance to today, I say, well, you know, what's going on with the Biden administration?
	The country is really being attacked, and it's falling apart in many ways.
	And what happens if all of the doomsdayers are right, and no one intercepts this, and we're left with a Society is not functioning, and we can't get food, and we can't protect ourselves, and we can't protect our families.
	Who are we going to be?
	Anyway, something like that.
	I don't want to go in that direction.
	Well, you've opened that box, and we'd love to continue that a little bit later in our discussion, but when it comes to the movie, the author was there who worked on the script.
	There are legion stories of Mr. Dickey's What was it like to have the author of this phenomenally successful book on set with you, and then playing the sheriff at the end?
	Well, there he is as the sheriff, and he did a very good job as an actor.
	He's a dramatic personality, and he's a natural actor.
	And he, Dickie, was a very dramatic personality.
	He was an alcoholic, and he had diabetes, I think, as well.
	And he said to me one time when I, actually, the first time I met him, he said, he said, I'm an alcoholic and a diabetic.
	Dangerous combination.
	You know, something like that.
	And he had this kind of drama throughout his personality.
	But Bert wasn't having very much of that.
	Bert was funny with him.
	Dickie would come up to us, and he was on the sauce a little bit, and he would say, Lewis, he said, you're just exactly what I imagined when I wrote this piece.
	And we're at a bar and just hanging out a little bit.
	And Bert turns to him, he says, I'm not, I'm not Lewis.
	I'm Bert Reynolds now.
	You see, this is my time off.
	So go take a hike or whatever he said to him, you know.
	And then Dickie turned to Bert and said, that's exactly what Lewis would say.
	He sounds like a troublemaker to me, but he plays the sheriff well.
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	It is a matter of the law!
	The law?
	What?
	The law?
	What law?
	Where's the law, Drew?
	Huh?
	You believe in democracy, don't you?
	Yes, I do.
	Well, then we'll take a vote.
	Now, stand by.
	So will you.
	Louis says, let's take a vote.
	You know how Bobby's going to vote.
	You know how Drew is going to vote.
	And it is Ed that seals the deal.
	Chris, we've discussed the incredible... There's no moment in this film where you're taken out, and you go, I don't buy that.
	That's a movie.
	You're engrossed, and the suspense constantly builds.
	You're an actor.
	You're a writer.
	I'm sure you've got some questions for our very special guest, Mr. Voight.
	Well, yeah, you made a great point earlier, but you kind of brushed over a little bit.
	Jon Voight climbed that cliff himself.
	All the guys did all their own stunts going down that river.
	You can see it in the film.
	I mean, it's them.
	But Jon Voight decided, I'm going to climb that cliff.
	And I think, I suspect, because he did Mission Impossible with Tom Cruise.
	After that, Tom Cruise was like, oh, I'm doing all my own stunts.
	I'm thinking, did Tom Cruise get that from you?
	Oh, well.
	Look, we did it as safely as we could.
	We weren't foolish, you know.
	But that particular scene that you're showing right at this moment is part of the reason why I decided to do the film.
	He looks back at the waterfall at one point, climbing this cliff, thinking that he's going
	to be facing his own death if he doesn't perform properly against this villain who's up there
	somewhere lurking.
	And then he looks out over the waterfall and he says, Christ, what have you?
	The waterfall and the moon, you know?
	And when I read that, I said, I can do that.
	I see myself saying that.
	So that's why I did the picture in some way, you know?
	Can I ask you a very geeky question?
	Because this movie kind of shook me when I was a child when I saw it.
	And then when I watched it again last night for the review, when you're tumbling through the rapids, you've been thrown out of the canoe.
	Mr. Voight, you never let go of your bow.
	I know that's what you were told to do.
	I just can't believe how you never release the flipping bow as you're being thrown through the rapids.
	I wish you'd been there and told me that, you know.
	Let it go, Johnny.
	And I think... I don't remember exactly, you know, all the different pieces of why I held on to the bow, but I think it was appropriate, you know?
	Yes!
	That's his survival.
	That's his survival, and he's holding on to it.
	He's going to make it through this thing, and if he confronts danger, he knows what he's got to do.
	So, anyway, I...
	I share an enthusiasm for the film.
	It's a very beautifully made film and all of the All of us on this film, the four main characters, really did a wonderful job.
	I look at each of the performances.
	It's quite spectacular.
	Of course, this big... The one that you've focused on, this idea of... It's a democracy view.
	You'll accept that.
	Okay, my vote is this and this.
	Well, that's an amazing piece of work by everybody in it.
	And...
	And Bert was wonderful, just wonderful.
	He was made for this part and he was really enjoying himself doing it, but he was quite brilliant.
	Was this, I would have to think, this must have been the hardest physical movie for you to make, was it?
	Well, but it wasn't without its fun because I enjoy a lot of physical things.
	Consider myself, you know, pretty athletic, and I was a swimmer when I was a kid, so the water didn't bother me at all.
	Now, I saw Bert, and Bert did his own stunts, you know, and he actually hurt himself very badly doing a stunt in the picture, but he wasn't as comfortable in the water, I think, as I was.
	And in that one shot, you see, he fell out of the canoe and he was holding his nose.
	I don't know what that was from, but he was, he was a tremendous, he is a tremendous athlete.
	He was, you know, Second string, all American, you know, football player and a lot of different other things.
	And loved Georgia.
	I think after this film was made, he grew up in Georgia and Florida.
	I think in most of his movies, he insisted that they be filmed as much as possible in Georgia.
	So great.
	A great southern patriot as well.
	We're talking to John Voigt of Deliverance.
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	First explorer saw this country.
	Saw it just like us.
	I can imagine how they felt.
	Yeah.
	We beat it, didn't we?
	Did we beat that?
	You don't beat it.
	You don't beat this river.
	You don't beat this river, it almost beat him.
	His leg was broken, a little bit of behind the scenes.
	How did they do that incredible gory effect of Bird's broken leg?
	Very simple, he got a broken lamb thigh and shoved it into the rip in his pants and that's what, that was his femur.
	We're back with Jon Voight of Deliverance.
	Mr Voight, Chris is next, I promise.
	We're going to take turns with these questions.
	We don't get stars like you on this show very regularly.
	Well, we get the president now and again, but superstars like yourself very rarely.
	The late Burt Reynolds said the following of Deliverance.
	He said, This is the best film I've ever been in.
	However, the rape scene went, quote, too far.
	Talk to us about the difficulty of filming that scene, because you're all there, you're tied to the tree, and it's a scene that you can never forget.
	As an audience member, you could never forget it.
	You had to witness the making of it.
	How was that dealt with on set?
	I was going to say, we were very fortunate that John chose the actors that he did, and he found Ned Beatty and Ronnie Cox in regional theater.
	I don't know how he did it, but he came back with these guys, and they were the first ones chosen, and then we were picked around them.
	The rape scene, Ned Beatty's performance, I always thought the movie really hung on that performance.
	And he's an amazing actor, a wonderful actor, and just a complete... I can't think of anybody else who could have even approached that and had the courage and the...
	Just the ability to take us through that scene and create what he did for that part of the movie.
	I mean, it's very powerfully done.
	And it's also funny.
	I mean, it's funny, crazy, but it's so pathetic and sad and horrible.
	All these wonderful things, you know, all these things, and I'm watching it and trying to figure out how I can intervene and protect him.
	Anyway, that's the heart of the picture.
	And when I first read the script, I didn't know what this was.
	I said, what is this, a horror picture?
	I pushed it aside for a while.
	And finally, John, I couldn't get past that scene.
	And finally, Borman said, read the rest of the movie.
	And is it true that the director then pestered you, called you back, and on the phone he said to you, John, you've got 30 seconds.
	Decide now.
	Did he do that?
	Actually, he did, because I'm kind of famous for that.
	At that time, at least, I was.
	Not knowing if I could make the decision for it or against it, I got into this confusion.
	And I kept pushing it off, pushing it off.
	And he finally said, I'm going to call you Monday, and you make a decision.
	Then we got on the phone, and he said, have you read it?
	I said, yeah, I have.
	Like that.
	And he said, OK, I'm going to count to three.
	You see?
	If you don't say yes, I'm going to give it to, and he named a couple of people.
	I thought he mentioned, I'm going to give it to Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman, whatever it is, you know?
	And I'm thinking, well, if you can get those guys, what are you talking to me for?
	But he said, one, two, and I said, Yes, I'll do it.
	You know, one, two, and I said, I'll do it.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, and history was made.
	And history was made.
	Chris, over to you.
	Well, you know, I want to step aside from this film for one second, because there's a film that I truly love that I don't think gets enough respect, I think is a really underrated film.
	It's called The Odessa File.
	And I read an interview from Frederick Forsyth talking about this film.
	He said there was a screening in Argentina.
	The film's about hunting former Nazis, right?
	And the film is specifically hunting a very specific former Nazi who's a real former Nazi who was really on the run.
	And apparently there was a screening in Argentina, in which somebody stood up in the theater and said, I know that guy lives down the street from me.
	And they actually found this guy in Argentina.
	Is that a true story?
	It's very possible.
	It's very possible.
	Max Schell played the part, and there was a big discussion as to how he had been in the picture.
	And in the book, this villain escapes.
	So it's very possible that he was still alive, you know, to watch a screening of the picture, actually.
	And we decided to To end his life, you know, that I shoot him in the end in self-defense.
	But anyway, I think that's probably a true story.
	It's amazing to me when fictional characters in a film that's set in fiction can actually affect the real world.
	You helped affect the actual real world by playing a part.
	I think that's amazing.
	We always talk about the success of the movies we review.
	At the time, it's $2 million to make the movie, and it grossed $46 million, quite a return, nominated for Academy Awards for Best Picture, Best director and best editing and somebody called some governor of South Carolina after the movie was made because of the success of the movie and the tourism it engendered.
	He established the Georgia Film Commission and that was some chap called Jimmy Carter.
	We're talking to Jon Voight.
	He is the star of the movie reviewed today here on Making Movies Great Again.
	It's Deliverance.
	If you haven't seen it in a while, you must see it.
	If you've never seen it, shame on you.
	Watch it right after the show.
	We're going to continue and I think we're going to broaden the aperture, as the cameraman would say, of our topics here today with Mr. Voight, with my co-host Chris Coles.
	This is America First coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios.
	We can't move out of here in the dark!
	Ed!
	We're not gonna move you, Lewis.
	Lewis, we're trapped in this gorge.
	Ed.
	Ed.
	Lewis!
	Ed.
	What are we gonna do, Lewis?
	You're the guy with the answers.
	What the hell do we do now?
	Now you get to play the...
	That's where the leadership role is transferred.
	But Reynolds is out.
	Lewis is out.
	And now Ed has to play the game.
	He has to become the hunter and defend his friends.
	The man who becomes the hero is Jon Voight.
	Look, I do this for fun.
	This isn't a real job.
	The fact that I get to watch movies and talk about them with a friend of mine every week, I would pay to do that.
	But we're in a broader context of the game, and that is America right now, and the survival of our civilization, the pinnacle of which is America.
	Let's just play a more recent clip of our special guest to talk about the real game.
	Play cut.
	What have we become but a nation of destructive behavior?
	This is now a war.
	A war against all of us.
	The Biden administration is a corrupt mob and the Obama administration fuels the cycle.
	Let me warn you all that this corrupt behavior against President Trump is the most disgusting scheme to try and keep him down.
	And this is a horror.
	This system now allows criminals to steal from department stores, and all they say is to watch and not do anything.
	And this is okay?
	To sit and allow these monsters to destroy hard-working designers and retailers?
	My God.
	My fellow Americans, this is a civil war.
	I want to recognize you.
	I want to salute you, Mr. Voigt, for your candor.
	Your willingness to speak out publicly, especially from an industry that, well, you just don't see that happen.
	Why are you doing what you're doing, Mr. Voigt?
	Well, I love this country.
	And I'm a person who's interested in finding the truth, so I At one point, I was on the other side in the 60s.
	And then I started to learn this and that, and I realized quite a lot of things.
	And now I know an awful lot of things that people don't know who rely on their mainstream media to give them the information.
	The mainstream media of this country has been overtaken.
	In 1963, the agenda for the KGB was put into a file in the Congressional Record.
	And what did it say?
	It said that the KGB was out to destroy this country by separating the People, the people in this country by gender, by age, by race, that they were going to take over the schools.
	Their intention was to take over the press and to take over Hollywood.
	And they pretty much accomplished that.
	So this was a long time coming.
	And there are a lot of players since 1963 that joined in.
	And the The mark of this group is that they don't believe in God, and they don't believe in law, and they're out to destroy this country.
	And so I feel that I have a responsibility, if I know all this, to be true.
	And so many of my fellows don't understand what's going on that I should do my best to step up and say whatever I can.
	There are many wonderful people out there who are doing a tremendous job.
	You being very prominent among them, Sebastian, and your team there.
	So we're in the fight for the life of this country.
	And it's a very extraordinary country.
	It's a country that believes in God and in morality and in law.
	And it's given us a great life here.
	We've been a light for the rest of the countries of the world.
	And now we're being torn apart.
	So we all must do what we can right now.
	We all must do what we can.
	We certainly have a great example.
	And the way Donald Trump has taken on this battle, every time he's attacked, he responds with great energy and great positive enthusiasm for this country and love, and love for the people.
	And that's what he's doing it for.
	This man loves the people of this country.
	And that's why they respond to him the way they do in these rallies.
	It's true love.
	He may be a friend of mine in some way.
	He certainly is a friend of yours.
	I mean, he's a friend of mine because he knows I'm for him and that I'm for this country.
	And that's the basis of our friendship.
	He knows that I love the country, as he does.
	Without that, we wouldn't be friends.
	I'm so glad you said what you said because when I first met the future president in 2015 in his office in Trump Tower and he asked for my advice on national security issues, the thing that struck me most earnestly was that this man loves this country and the only reason he's doing what he's doing now for the second time It's because of his love of this country.
	So I want to thank you for your patriotism and for your support for my former boss.
	God bless you, sir.
	Please don't go anywhere.
	We want to continue discussion even after we wrap up and we finished and chosen the next movie we're going to review.
	But Chris, your closing thoughts and comments and questions to our very special guest.
	Well, you know, your words are perfect.
	It's beautiful.
	The love of country and truth.
	You mentioned truth.
	And I think truth is really critical.
	I have a friend whose mother is a Democrat, and she often says to him, well, the reporters wouldn't lie to me.
	They wouldn't lie to us all, right?
	And that's the problem most people have.
	They don't care to look deeper than just what they're told on CNN.
	But if you really want to know the truth, you can find it.
	You just have to look for it.
	I think what you said is absolutely perfect.
	It is a country that's worth saving, and I do respect that you are involved in it, that Donald Trump is involved in it.
	My speculation, this is just my speculation, this isn't anybody else's, but I believe that they're going to try to take Donald Trump off the ballot in the swing states, in Democrat-controlled states, including the swing states in 2024.
	I think that's what they're trying to do.
	I think that's why they're putting him through these trials.
	I don't know if that's true 100%.
	That's my speculation.
	But I think we have to speculate, we have to put that stuff out there and think about it.
	Well, you do that on your amazing channel, Mr. Reagan, and your cultural commentary on The Alpha Critic on YouTube.
	The last thing we have to do every week, and then we'll have a little chat offline, so if you can spare just two more minutes.
	I chose the movie Deliverance.
	Chris, what is next week's menu item for review?
	Well, I want to stay in the 70s, actually.
	I had an idea.
	We did The Great Escape, and I really liked that movie, and I want to stay in that theme.
	And this movie, this is the first time I think we're going to be doing Clint Eastwood.
	Maybe I've given you enough hints there.
	No, it is the first time.
	What are we doing, Chris?
	This is a movie.
	I don't know if you've seen it, but it's one of my all-time favorites.
	Great film.
	It's called Escape from Alcatraz.
	Oh.
	Fabulous film, fabulous film.
	But since you mentioned it, I think we're going to have to have very soon also the Odessa file.
	In the meantime, if you have the same concerns we do, if you support the man I worked for in the White House, they have a booking photograph of him.
	They've made him into an outlaw.
	They don't realize that Americans love outlaws.
	If you stand with him, maybe you should be wearing one of these.
	It's the mugshot heard around the world with a very simple phrase, Trump 2024.
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	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
	But more important than any of that, please support the president directly at DonaldJTrump.com.
	That's DonaldJTrump.com.
	You've been listening.
	You've been watching Making Movies Great Again with Chris Coles, AKA Mr. Reagan, and our very special guest, Jon Voight.

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