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July 12, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: FBI moving to Alabama?

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	You Okay?
	Okay.
	Former Capitol Police Chief Stevenson reportedly has asserted that the protest crowd was filled with federal agents.
	Are you aware of his assertion?
	I am not.
	Would you agree with him that it was filled with federal agents?
	I would really have to see more closely exactly what he said and get the full context to be able to evaluate it.
	How many agents were actually, agents or human resources were present at the Capitol Complex
	in vicinity on January 6th?
	Well, again, it's going to get confusing because it depends on when we deployed and responded
	to the breach that occurred.
	Obviously, there were federal agents.
	Sure.
	Yeah, you're talking, and you and I both know what, we're talking different things here.
	And please don't distract here because we're focusing on those who were there in an undercover
	capacity on January 6th.
	How many were there?
	Again, I'm not sure that I can give you that number as I sit here.
	I'm not sure there were undercover agents on scene.
	That's happening today.
	Right now, Chris Wray is back on Capitol Hill.
	We've got some stunning clips of the director of the FBI lying in the face of the American people and the congressmen and women who are meant to actually have oversight over the executive.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	You're listening to America First.
	With me, your host, Sebastian Walker.
	We have an amazing one-on-one for you today.
	We are going to be diving deep into the story of why President Trump fired and then rehired my friend Mark Morgan to be Commissioner for Customs and Border Protection and what has happened since he left office to the national sovereignty of this, the greatest nation on God's green earth.
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	But first, let's get back to the news of the day.
	We have a man who is basically running a political police force.
	You saw the news of this week, just two days ago, an individual who says he has conclusive proof because he was part of it, of the Biden family receiving monies to change US policy.
	Pay for play.
	That individual, Israeli US citizen Gal Luft, told the FBI four years ago on neutral territory in Europe that I have this evidence I am disturbed by it I no longer want to be involved and I give it to you he gave an interview this weekend telling the world who he is and the evidence he has and less than 72 hours later what did we hear the FBI the DOJ filed multiple felony charges against him
	To shut him up.
	Because it's Biden's DOJ.
	And this man has evidence against Joe Biden.
	How do we stop it?
	Well, for the time being, we've got to make them squirm.
	God bless Andy Biggs.
	God bless Matt Gaetz.
	This is what he had to ask Christopher Wray a few moments ago.
	Cut 16.
	How many illegal FISA queries have occurred under your leadership of the FBI?
	Well, there are reports that have come out with different numbers about compliance incidents.
	More than a million?
	Illegal ones?
	Because that's what the Inspector General said.
	The Inspector General said that in the 3.4 million of these queries, more than a million were in error.
	Do you have any basis to disagree with that assessment by the Inspector General?
	I'm not sure actually that's a A correct characterization of the Inspector General's findings on that.
	Well, the internet will remind you of that in moments.
	But let's now go to what the court said.
	The court said it was over 200,000 that have occurred on your watch.
	Do you have any basis to disagree with that assessment?
	Again, I don't have the numbers I sit here right now.
	Seems like a number you should know!
	How many times the FBI's breaking the law under your watch!
	Is it a quarter of a million?
	Or is it a million?
	And let's, you know, translate the Washington lingo into English.
	Illegal FISA warrants.
	What is FISA?
	We're not supposed to have a domestic security service in America.
	We were unique in the Western world that we didn't have a federalized police force to investigate our own citizens for political purposes.
	There's no MI5, there's no Bundesverfassungsschutz as there is in Germany.
	We had the FBI for a very small, limited number of federal crimes.
	Bank robbing, kidnapping, for catching foreign spies on US soil.
	Not for spying on US citizens.
	In fact, it was illegal to do so.
	Until what happens?
	The FISA secret courts were created.
	The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
	Even the name is maskirovka, is dezinformatsia.
	Why?
	Foreign Intelligence Surveillance.
	It's nothing to do with foreigners.
	It's a cover to acquire secret warrants behind closed doors from judges whose identity is classified.
	Can we just stop for a millisecond?
	How do we have judges whose identity is secret?
	Where is the transparency in front of the law?
	And if the FBI goes to this secret court, they can get warrants saying, oh, John Smith, who lives in Detroit, he's in contact with some foreign threats to America.
	And we want to spy on him!
	We want to surveil his phones, his internet contacts, his emails.
	Oh, and when you get the warrant, guess what?
	Who's representing you in that secret court?
	No one!
	You have no representation!
	You've got the executive talking to a secret judge!
	And A quarter of a million times the warrants were bad.
	Now that's polite.
	It means they're illegal.
	Over a million instances, according to the Attorney, the Inspector General.
	If a warrant is bad, guess what?
	It is an illegal instrument.
	We are protected by the Bill of Rights, by Article 4, against undue search and seizure.
	Our bodies, our property is sacrosanct unless a crime has been committed or there is a reasonable expectation that a crime is about to be committed.
	But secret procedures behind closed doors with judges whose identity is classified?
	And even then, even then, when it's hidden, we find out more than a quarter of a million of them?
	We're bad, quote-unquote, meaning illegal?
	What has happened to this nation?
	Are these not transgressions more egregious than which led to the creation of America?
	The quartering of troops without permission on your land?
	Yeah, that's pretty bad.
	But having your communications, your private communications as a US citizen surveilled based upon warrants that were illegal?
	How is that not reason enough for overturning the apple cart?
	God forbid we have another revolution or a civil war in America.
	But the FBI cannot be allowed to stand.
	It must be dismantled.
	Otherwise nobody's rights, unless you're connected to the elite, are safe.
	And the whole reason why America was created has been deleted by those who believe they have more rights than you.
	I know one person who could clean it up.
	I don't even know if he can, but he's the only one who has a chance.
	And he's the man I worked for.
	Do you stand with him?
	I do.
	Fly this flag.
	I stand with 45.
	Go right now.
	SebGorGastor.com you
	you you
	you Quickly, find a headline of Biden not going to dinner.
	For the third or fourth time now.
	At NATO.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to use cut 17 here with Mark.
	Cut 17.
	And then... Oh, play me 12 again and make sure the studio speakers are... 12 again.
	This concluded the first meeting of NATO-Ukraine Council.
	And all our allies agreed Ukraine's future lies in NATO.
	That's not a surprise to any of us, I don't think.
	I hope it's not a surprise to you, Mr. President.
	Allies all agreed to lift the requirements for membership action plan for Ukraine and to create a path to NATO membership while Ukraine continues to make progress on necessary forms.
	All right.
	Alright, you can come in with that.
	Come in with Cut12, NoLiner, Titles.
	And then I'll do PhD.
	Do most Americans even know what Pfizer is?
	Okay.
	And then for Friend... What did I write down?
	The FBI has always been a political police force.
	Okay.
	90 seconds.
	All right, come in with 12, then I'll do PhD, and then I'll introduce Mark.
	Oh, what's your position at AFPI?
	Chief Communications Officer.
	But if you want to get political and talk about the election, then just drop it and go with Director of Strategic Communications on the 2020 campaign.
	We're a C3.
	The IRS is gonna come after us.
	Yeah, did you see that, Eric?
	I'm sorry?
	The chyron, we're changing it to, uh, direct to strategic communications.
	Trump 2020 campaign.
	Okay, hang on.
	And I'll throw in AFPI if we're on the policy side.
	That way we keep it nice and clean.
	Trump 2024 campaign?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What?
	2024 or 20?
	20.
	2020.
	Oh, 20, okay.
	Alright.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Twenty. Twenty. Twenty. Oh, twenty. Okay. All right.
	Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Thirty seconds.
	Coming in with twelve.
	Okay.
	you That's not a surprise to any of us, I don't think.
	first meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Council and where all our allies agreed Ukraine's
	future lies in NATO. That's not a surprise to any of us, I don't think. I hope it's not
	a surprise to you, Mr. President. Allies all agreed to lift the requirements for membership
	action plan for Ukraine and to create a path to NATO membership while Ukraine continues
	to make progress on necessary forms.
	Very strange, very strange summit in Vilnius.
	That's the I can't even say it.
	I just call him the incumbent in the White House, standing at a podium with the President of Ukraine a few feet next to him again in his green car keys.
	You've put on a bit of weight to President Zelensky.
	I don't think he's on PhD.
	The next cut we have from Biden is quite stunning and we'll also unpack Why did he miss another official engagement at a NATO summit of all places?
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	He was the chief of strategic communications for the 2020 campaign.
	Mark Lodder, great to have you in studio.
	Good to be with you.
	Your tailor must have scored when you lost all that weight.
	Was that my tailor?
	Yesterday, getting my new suit fitted but yeah my wife said she went to my closet she took all out my suit she said put them on one by one and they're like it's like putting on a tent it's like I have to get rid of it so yeah my tailor was very happy.
	You mentioned something in before on the break before we came in so yesterday Biden misses the NATO dinner with all the heads of state.
	And then you said this wasn't the first time.
	No, this is the fourth time he has skipped out on an international dinner or gathering.
	He did it in Indonesia.
	He did it again at another NATO meeting.
	I mean, the guy just can't stay awake.
	Now, I've heard.
	Tell me if you have any backup to this.
	That his program now, officially in the White House, is tabled midday to four o'clock.
	They don't put anything out, you know, extraneous, midday to four.
	Hang on a second, really?
	Four hours of work?
	This guy has spent 40% of his presidency on vacation.
	And just, unfortunately, we can't unsee it, a weekend at the beach.
	I don't know if you saw this.
	I don't even have a cut of this because it's fresh this morning.
	he was flying the plane. And then he does the meet and greet with the king and stumbles
	all around and meets with the British Prime Minister and then has to take a break.
	And then, I don't know if you saw this, I don't even have a cut of this because it's
	fresh this morning, I saw it on social media and I retweeted it, he's sitting down with
	Erdogan, okay?
	This is the president of Turkey, who has not only been president for nine years, before that he was prime minister of Turkey, and Biden's sitting there, right in front of him, and he's got a cheat sheet, and Erdogan's sitting like four feet away, he doesn't know who he is, has to look down at a piece of paper and say, President Erdogan.
	This is The head of state of the NATO nation with the biggest army in Europe, Mark.
	And he doesn't know who he is.
	And he's the guy who just lifted the ban on Sweden getting into NATO and made a commitment on other fronts that was so important.
	But hang on.
	Hang on.
	Sorry.
	We have to delete the last four minutes.
	Delete it, Eric.
	Do not broadcast.
	Can we go back in time?
	Because there was that report in Axios that Biden's really tough and he screams at his staff because he's really on top of things.
	That's true, right?
	That's the best thing ever!
	This is what they've gotten to.
	They actually have to make him look mean to make people think that he's competent.
	I mean, you gotta, I mean, look, you and I were there and we were in the, and it is a
	tiring job for young men.
	And I don't know.
	I wanted to have a quarter of the president's energy.
	I was like, he was 20 years older than me and I wanted to have like 20% of President
	Trump's energy when I was in the White House because I couldn't keep up.
	Nobody can keep up.
	I mean I said it some I forget he's like this is the guy who plays 18 holes of golf and is likely to call you at 2 o'clock in the afternoon as he is at 2 o'clock in the morning.
	He doesn't sleep and yet he continues to go and go and go.
	We'll keep you up for another segment because you're in the studio.
	So I'd already left the administration but Hannity invited me with Sarah Carter and Daniel Hoffman to fly to Singapore for the North Korea summit, right?
	I don't know how the president does this stuff.
	I don't know whether he's got like... multi-start tasking doesn't quite cut it.
	So we're doing Sean's program from the roof of the hotel in like 102% humidity at 9 a.m.
	because it's a 12-hour difference, right?
	And we watch him, we're commenting live on him going into this palace in Singapore, meeting with little Kim and signing this, you know, non-aggression, whatever, this peace and harmony thing.
	And as he's finished signing it live, I'm commenting on Sean's show about, yeah, this is unheard of.
	This is the person who walked into the DMZ without any bodyguards, blah, blah, blah.
	And then we finish the show, and I go back to my hotel room to just kind of get a bit of AC.
	And my cell phone rings with the, you know, the 000.
	And I think, the White House?
	But the bosses?
	I'm confused.
	The president was calling me from Singapore through the comms system.
	Because he'd seen my commentary on Sean's show three minutes ago, and he said, that was really great!
	I mean, he's negotiating with Kim, and then calling me up, and I don't even work for him anymore.
	I mean, it's... You just signed in a historic document.
	Oh, I gotta call Seb.
	Yeah, let's call Seb.
	That was cool, that was good.
	Get Seb on the phone.
	And when people would, I'm sure they asked you because you're in the press department, but I'd get asked quite frequently, who's tweeting for him at 4 a.m.?
	They thought I'd be writing the tweets.
	No, I'm trying to get some sleep!
	I'm not tweeting!
	He's tweeting!
	He's tweeting!
	You just can't keep up with him and yet and he's still going yeah, I mean it just shows you you know
	Not everyone's created equally. I mean we can't keep the present the current president awake right to deal with
	these these serious issues And you got the other guy you know who they always mocked
	about how much golf he played nobody can keep up with him Talking of tweeting should he come back to Twitter?
	What's Mark Lotta's take?
	So I'm the comms guy, so I'm going to say I don't involve the business side, but yes.
	I mean, you have a hundred million people.
	I used to say, this is one of those that got me the note from the boss, when I think I said on Fox News at one point, I'm like, you know, every time he activates his full social media, he reaches a super bowl-sized audience, 120 million people.
	And he just loved that comparison because it was the Super Bowl and it's great.
	It's the largest audience every year on television.
	Every time he took Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all of his various accounts, he reached a Super Bowl size audience.
	Alright guys, on the campaign at Mar-a-Lago, if that non-compete with Truth Social has expired, we want Send the boss back on Twitter because, hey, it's just so much fun.
	We'll be back with Mark in a moment.
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	Alright, let's play Mika here for Mark.
	Alright, let's play Mika here for Mark.
	That's cut number four.
	Four, yep, yep, yep.
	Oh, and come in with Kamala, come in with Six.
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	90 seconds.
	Thank you.
	All right, and then I'm gonna tee up Micah.
	And then if we have time, which I think we might, I'll also squeeze in Chris Christie.
	Squeeze in Chris Christie.
	That's kind of impossible.
	I don't know which one I don't want to see on a beach more, Biden or Christie.
	Vaseline, and we'll squeeze him in.
	You know what Jeff told me?
	He's had lap band surgery, and he's still huge.
	He's done what, you know, Sean?
	He's done the whole thing, yeah.
	Right, Jeff?
	What White House communications staffer said?
	Yeah, he did it before he ran for president the first time.
	Take off your shirt and fall asleep.
	They should be fired.
	Yeah.
	He lost 80 pounds and got down to 320.
	He lost 80 pounds, but he looks like he's still full- He looks like he was.
	He's definitely gained a lot back since then.
	But that was his low point, 320.
	He was celebrating that.
	320 was his low point.
	Yeah.
	Makes me feel good.
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	Thirty. Coming in with six.
	Okay.
	And I again want to thank the Secretary for your work.
	This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure that people have the ability to get where they need to go.
	It's that basic.
	But what about the Venn diagrams?
	I can't understand a definition of transport being about people need to get where they're going without Venn diagrams.
	That's the latest gem from the woman who, oh my lord, could be the next president if something happens to the Dodderer-in-Chief.
	I think we'll have to instigate that.
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	We are back with my buddy from the White House, Mark Lotter, who was the 2020 campaign director of strategic communications.
	Mark, as an expert in strategic communications, I know you love the Micah Brzezinski, Joe Scarborough treat every morning.
	Oh, yes.
	We gotta have some fun.
	I have never seen her as angry as this.
	I guess the thing you mentioned about Biden at the beach and the other stumbles, they're starting to grate on poor Micah.
	And she's not having it!
	Cut 4.
	Yeah, I think his staff needs to own his age.
	I'm just going to be honest.
	I don't think they do a good job helping out the president, and I'm not talking about it like... I'm just saying, if you are managing a president's schedule, and you are managing a president getting on stage and getting off stage and doing, getting on planes and getting off planes, and yes, He's 80.
	You need to be there for him.
	And you need to make a pathway.
	And you sure as hell better make sure he doesn't fall on a sandbag.
	And I blame the staff for that.
	I mean, these are the things that are going to hurt him.
	These are things that are going to be played on a loop.
	OK?
	Let him do his job.
	Let him do his speeches.
	Let him work on policy.
	Let him do his connections in Congress, unlike any president that we've seen.
	What is she arguing for, Mark?
	But my God, make sure, you know, your secret service, your his staff, that you were there
	and you're telling him what's next.
	What is she arguing for, Mark?
	Are his staff supposed to hide Joe Biden?
	That's apparently what she's asking.
	Hide his age.
	Hide his feebleness.
	Hide his frailty.
	But to a certain extent, I mean, that's their job.
	And I hate to say this.
	I agree with Mika.
	The staff is doing a horrible job.
	I mean, yes, he's 80.
	He also has a pool at the White House where there aren't any pictures.
	If he needs to get a little sun, stay at the White House this weekend.
	Enjoy the pool that they've built for you.
	And you've been there.
	We've all been there.
	It's surrounded by high hedges and walls.
	You're not going to see it.
	There's no photo of him there.
	What are they supposed to do?
	Are they going to put a canopy on the jetway to Air Force One to hide him?
	Have you noticed recently they've been using the in-house stairs in the plane?
	Shorter stairs.
	Fewer to trip up.
	So you have to wonder, you know, is that because the airport doesn't have the stairs to reach the 747?
	Or do they want him just going up fewer stairs and not tripping?
	All right, let's have some fun with this very short clip.
	This is a man who is very desperate and he shouldn't go to beaches either.
	Chris Christie, cut ten!
	But these are the things I want to debate on the stage.
	Yeah.
	With him, Piers.
	Will he turn up?
	I don't know whether he will, but you go to chrischristie.com tonight, donate a dollar, you'll make sure I'm on that stage, and I will confront him directly.
	He's going to confront President Trump and he needs a dollar.
	Please give me a dollar now.
	He sounds a bit desperate, Mark.
	Oh, he is desperate.
	I mean, to make that debate stage, to get 40,000 unique donors.
	I mean, obviously you've got other candidates out there that are buying gift cards for people.
	They're promising you a portion of your donation back.
	And I mean, all kinds of schemes and gimmicks to try to get to that threshold to get on that debate stage.
	And look, if I'm one of the top contenders trying to take on President Trump, you want Chris Christie on there.
	Because you're afraid.
	You don't want to ask the questions.
	His only job is to try to politically kill the president and then gracefully leave offstage for someone else.
	He may not make the debate stage.
	It wouldn't surprise me if some other folks start trying to raise money for him to get him on there so he can do their dirty work.
	A couple of seconds left.
	How many people are we going to see in the actual debates?
	I loved it when we had 17 people in 2015.
	Do you think we're going to get a similar number?
	No, I don't think you'll get nearly that number.
	I think you'll probably get six or seven on the state.
	Well, I should say six or seven qualified.
	Qualified.
	Whether the president makes it or goes or not is his own choice.
	He's clearly qualified.
	But I love it!
	Mr. President, we really enjoyed the last primary.
	Let's see you again.
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	I'm sitting here with my father.
	I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.
	I am sitting here, waiting for the call with my father.
	Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it, Director?
	I'm not going to get into commenting on that.
	You seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you?
	Almost suspiciously uncurious.
	Are you protecting the Bidens?
	Absolutely not.
	The FBI does not and has no interest in protecting anyone politically.
	You won't answer the question about whether or not that's a shakedown, and everybody knows why you won't answer it.
	Because to the millions of people who will see this, they know it is.
	God bless Matt Gaetz doing it again.
	Reading the encrypted WhatsApp message that we now know is, you know, real.
	It was read into a court of law.
	It's in official documents.
	Hunter Biden sending that message.
	to a Chinese official in that Communist nation saying, Why haven't you sent the money?
	Where's the money?
	You know who's sitting next to me?
	It's my daddy!
	It's Joe!
	And we beg Rogers, you better send that money.
	And what happened?
	The money was wired the next day.
	That sounds like a shakedown.
	But Christopher Wray, he doesn't think it sounds like a shakedown.
	No!
	He's just a director of the FBI.
	Jeff, you were saying as you were preparing the clips today before the show, Chris Wray looked pretty angry, didn't he?
	Yes, and then he got very upset when Jim Jordan called the recess.
	Why?
	I have no idea.
	I guess he wanted to get out of there, but he got really upset, kind of threw his papers off to the side, had that smug look on his face.
	Oh, I know.
	He wanted to get into his private Learjet that we pay for and, you know, fly to his, whatever it is, his house in the Adirondacks.
	That's typically what he does after every single one of these hearings.
	Guys, you can actually look this up.
	He flies on a small private jet we pay for, the FBI has several of them, to go to his vacation home in the Adirondacks.
	Yeah.
	The Director of the FBI.
	I guess that DOMESTIC TERRORISM THREAT FROM MILITIAS isn't too big, is it?
	And you're too busy not to testify.
	Unbelievable.
	All right, let's get back to the reality of the Biden economy.
	Let's get some advice on the latest headlines from our buddies at Key City Capital, their Chief Client Officer, good friend of the show, Stephen Patterson!
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	All right, so I'm reading from CNBC of all things that inflation has risen 0.2 points in June, less than expected.
	Is this a break for consumers?
	Is this good for those who are looking for a little bit of stability and maybe, you know, invest in some real estate?
	What is the trend line looking forward, not just for the last month?
	No, I think it's good.
	And I think this is the argument that's been made for a while, is that we had 525 basis points of interest rate increases done over a 13-month period of time.
	It takes a little bit for that to work its way through the economy.
	And if the Fed would just pause a little bit and let things work themselves out, I think This could be a very good thing.
	The question is, is will they pause?
	Will Jerome Powell yield, or are we going to continue to keep our foot on the gas?
	Right, well, here's the second story I need you to assist with for us because we need to know what's safe, what's good to invest in.
	This is from our buddies at the Epoch Times, the headline from Brian Young.
	Major U.S.
	banks to report biggest jump in loan losses since the COVID pandemic.
	Major U.S.
	banks are set to report the biggest jump in loan losses since COVID-19 as rising interest rates put mounting pressure on borrowers across the country.
	Bank of America and Morgan Stanley are to release their reports on July 18th and Goldman Sachs on the 19th.
	The quarterly reports are expected to show that banks benefited from high interest rates with a boost in lending, but those which were reliant on investment banking, on trading, on wealth management, may now experience a more difficult environment.
	Doesn't that underscore one thing, Stephen?
	That real estate is still far more safe.
	It is.
	It is.
	It's where, you know, we're seeing rent growth, we're seeing demand for rental property.
	You know, I saw a really interesting note the other day.
	If you borrowed $400,000 at 3% versus where it is now, right around $7.25, that loan has
	more than doubled and you're paying a million dollars just in interest.
	So it is driving people into either into rental property or it is keeping people in rental property because they now can't afford to go out and get that mortgage.
	And so those cash flowing assets have done very, very well for our investors.
	Well, explain what the cash flowing assets you offer at Key City Capital are and who can actually use them or be part of that.
	Absolutely.
	We create partnerships with our clients where we're going in and we're buying apartment complexes somewhere between 250 units up to as many as 1,300 units at any one given time.
	And on a monthly basis, we collect that rent, we pay the bills, we pay the note, and what's left over, that extraneous cash, goes out to our investors on a quarterly basis.
	So, if people want to use your services to invest in these rental properties, all the management headaches are taken out of their hands, correct?
	Absolutely.
	You know, that's one of the comments that I often get from new clients is, you know, I always had an interest in being a real estate owner, having rental properties, but I'd never wanted the 3 a.m.
	phone call that there was a water leak or that, you know, what have you.
	And that's where we come in.
	We manage everything.
	We do all of the lift.
	Our investors are passive investors.
	And this market is far, far safer than the stocks and bonds out there, correct?
	I think so.
	We are doing quite well.
	Our clients are very happy with how we're producing the returns that we're producing and it gets them out of the stock market crazy where we're waiting for what country to do what and for what federal official to say what that then sends us on the roller coaster.
	Perfectly put!
	If you want a bit of stability and to get off the roulette wheel that is the stock market, please check out these amazing people at keycitycapital.com slash Gorka.
	You can call Steve's and Stephen's team on 817-912-1569.
	That's keycitycapital.com slash G-O-R-K-A 817-912-1569.
	That's keycitycapital.com slash G-O-R-K-A 817-912-1569.
	Thank you, Stephen.
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	How long is that, Alex?
	18 seconds?
	I asked, but I don't think they're going to.
	17.
	But why does it have to be so ridiculous?
	There's no other disclaimer that long.
	I don't know.
	We off?
	Yeah, no.
	Put it up.
	I'm going to put it up.
	Soon NATO will be the 32nd freestanding, have free, 33, 32 freestanding members.
	Why are people laughing?
	That's the president of America at a NATO summit and there's a war in Europe and he can't flipping speak.
	Tell me if it's funny.
	Play it again.
	Soon NATO will be the 32nd freestanding, have free, 33, 32 freestanding members.
	Yeah, hilarious.
	Bloody hilarious.
	Oh, where did John go?
	We're just about to go.
	Guys, you gotta be patient.
	You gotta have persistence.
	There you are.
	You've been waiting for about 20 minutes to talk to me and three and a half million other people.
	And I'm literally, I'm just about to say, we've got time for one call.
	Let's go to John.
	And he drops the line.
	Maybe he's super busy.
	All right.
	Let's go back to the hearing on Capitol Hill.
	Christopher Wray is not very happy.
	He was asked about January the 6th.
	Let's listen.
	Cut 15.
	I think Tucker Carlson and some of the members colleagues on the other side of the aisle have said that Wray Epps was a secret government agent and helping encourage this crime so as to make the president look bad.
	Do you have any knowledge of Wray Epps being a secret government agent?
	No.
	I will say this notion that somehow the violence at the Capitol on January 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and agents is ludicrous and is a disservice to our brave, hard-working, dedicated men and women.
	He didn't ask you that.
	Did you catch that?
	Were you listening closely?
	He didn't ask you whether it was orchestrated by the FBI He asked you whether you had agents, whether you had FBI assets, undercovers, amongst the protesters disguised as Trump supporters.
	That's what you were asked.
	Why would you answer a different question?
	Well, unless, of course, it is to hide the fact that you did have assets.
	And you don't want to disclose that, because then the whole case collapses.
	All right, we've got 60 seconds.
	John, San Diego.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	OK, the thing with the inflation going down, well, that's not because of interest rates.
	They haven't had any effect.
	It's the oil prices went down 20 percent in May and June.
	And now that's why OPEC and Russia have both announced they're going to cut oil production by a million barrels a day starting, I guess, last week.
	So in July, inflation is going to go insane.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	I think the next 18 months are going to be even worse than the worst prognostications.
	Thank you, John, for that injection of reality.
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	Making sense out of today's nonsense. Here's dr. Sebastian Gorka. Is that even possible?
	More, I don't know if it is possible to make sense of what's coming out through the
	Organs of the mainstream lying legacy media. I know somebody who has an even tougher job because she's behind
	enemy lines in California
	Keeping la sane with all our good buddies out there Brent and Antoinette and all the others the hosts co-host
	of the morning answer am 870 am 590 also CRN digital talk our good buddy Jennifer Horne. Oh who gave
	you permission to take two days off?
	What what is going on?
	It was so nice.
	I took Friday and Monday off.
	I feel all refreshed, filled with vim and vigor, ready to fight the crazies in California.
	I went to Paso Robles, actually.
	Have you ever been there?
	I've heard of it, but what is there when you go to Paso Robles?
	What is there?
	It is, well, there's wine tasting, of course.
	We talked about me being a sommelier.
	There's Sensario, which is this big field of light where all of the lights go on at night and they've got all these, it's really beautiful.
	It sounds a bit hippie-ish.
	Uh, maybe so, but you know what?
	I think we can all be a little hippie.
	We can be conservative hippies, can't we?
	No, I hate hippies.
	Can we be MAGA hippies?
	I hate hippies.
	We'll be the ones that shower.
	Hippies should be illegal.
	We'll be the ones that shower and don't wear Birkenstocks.
	They should have their heads shaved.
	Okay, all right, fine.
	We'll get rid of the hippies.
	No, it was a lot of fun and actually the best part was just getting out of the city, seeing some green and just it was nice.
	It was a relaxing time.
	I've got to ask you before we get to the fun topics of the day.
	I've got some California stories, but I want to talk to you about national politics because you've become one of my favorite national political analysts as well.
	Don't tell anybody.
	Thank you.
	I like that.
	I've got to ask you, do you get, because you heard me deal with one in the break, do you get prank callers?
	Do you get sad cases, incels trying to call up your show?
	Oh, absolutely.
	You do?
	What do you do?
	What do you do with them?
	Well, so we have this, actually I can use a recent example.
	We had this one guy, you know, I'm pretty good at voices.
	Like if I'm good at anything, it's recognizing people's voices for the most part.
	And now people are going to be like, oh, she's issued the challenge.
	Don't try to test me.
	But there was this one guy who kept calling over and over and over again.
	And it was so annoying because he obviously wanted to argue with us, but he kept trying to use different names over and over again.
	It was clear who this person was.
	And I said, please stop.
	Like, you can call into this show.
	You can disagree.
	We can have debate.
	We can have the argument.
	But why do you have to hide behind phony names?
	That's so lame.
	So when I finally said that, he stopped calling the show.
	I don't know how that works.
	I don't know why.
	It's almost like the people on Twitter who hide behind their keyboard and just want to say stupid stuff or argumentative stuff just for the sake of it.
	It's like, if you really are so convicted that you want to call the show and argue, let's do it.
	Let's talk about it.
	And so he actually called back one additional time and talked to our producer, Dan Dan.
	You know, we have Hot Chocolate Jose and we have Dan Dan, the phone man, and who's now Dan Dan, the producer man.
	He's been promoted.
	And Dan Dan talked to him and said, you know, they'll take your call.
	And he goes, well, you know, I am really a Republican, but they talk too much about how they like President Trump and I don't really like President Trump.
	Just call in and have a conversation and be prepared with facts.
	Just don't come with talking points.
	This is the thing.
	They call in and they literally, they don't go with a knife to a gunfight.
	They go with a plastic butter knife to a machine gun fight.
	You know, you're coming on a show with you or me.
	We do this 15 hours a day and they say, well, Trump said this four years ago.
	It's like, dude, that's the best you've got?
	Yeah, we had a liberal guy that calls us, and I actually like the guy.
	I don't know what's wrong with me.
	His name is Edward from Erwin Dale.
	He's probably listening to you right now, so hi, Edward.
	And so he calls in, and we've kind of created this peaceful calm between the two of us, but he comes in today, and he says, I don't know.
	One of the stories that's big in California this week is that the California Assembly voted down making sex trafficking, child trafficking, A serious felony.
	So I said, clearly the Democrats in the state are no longer interested in protecting women and children.
	They made it very clear.
	These people are the lowest of the low and they all need to be voted out of office.
	You know, something along those lines.
	He calls in and said, well, I don't know how you can say something that Democrats are so disgusting when you voted for a president who said that he raped someone on camera.
	I said, I'm sorry, what?
	And of course, then you have to go through the whole thing and you go through.
	But is there any point?
	Is there any point of explaining what the president said in a private conversation is that when you're famous, women throw themselves at you, which is like, is that disputable?
	Have you been to a VIP lounge lately with a rapper or a rock star?
	Exactly what I said.
	I said, look, Edward, I said, you know, look, it's locker room talk.
	It's not my favorite.
	But the guy never said that.
	He talked about how it really is in Hollywood.
	And by the way, it really is like that in Hollywood.
	So I'm sorry if it didn't sound good.
	But you know what?
	He was kind of telling the truth.
	But is there any point in actually going through the motions of the argument with these people?
	You know, I feel like there is because what I have learned is that people who only get their news from certain sources are actually thinking that the stuff that's doled out in the mainstream news media outlets are actually true.
	And so even if it feels like, you know, beating a dead horse, even if it feels like you're just being repetitive and that
	there's no hope.
	I feel like at some point I'm at least arming the people listening to deal with those people
	in their own lives so that they know how to respond because so many people in California
	hide from saying they're Republicans or Trump supporters.
	At least if we can give you ammunition and arm you with how to deal with that in your life, maybe
	you change a mind or two along the way and then it's worth it. I like that. I like that.
	I wanted to talk about other things but I'm not gonna.
	I'm gonna talk about the stuff that's coming up as a spontaneously part of our conversation because that's the most fun.
	You mentioned this guy who kept ringing in and trying to hide his identity.
	That really lit a bulb in my head.
	Do you know who Mike Cernovich is?
	The name is familiar, isn't he?
	He's on Twitter somewhere, right?
	Yeah, he's a loony who talks about... What is it he talks about, Eric?
	Gorilla Power or something?
	That's the title of his book, is Gorilla Monster.
	I called him Monkey Boy on Twitter today.
	Why?
	And I'm sure he loved it.
	Because he, on this issue of anonymity, He went after Jordan Peterson, and I love Jordan Peterson's take.
	He says, you know, Twitter, you should have your name and it should be verified.
	You want to be a scumbag and promote lies about other people anonymously?
	You shouldn't be allowed to, okay?
	So there's this debate about Jordan Peterson's take on no anonymity on social media.
	This is what... I've got to get your take because it's fresh this morning.
	Cernovich You know, Monkey Boy said this, Jordan is regime pied piper directly described in the CIA manual on how to infiltrate political dissent movements.
	Yeah!
	He's like saying that he's controlled opposition.
	Right.
	What do we do with the loonies on our side?
	I mean, I swear, the left is the left and they hate America.
	But people like Cernovich and the QAnon crowd and everybody, they do more damage to us than anybody on the left.
	You know, it's so funny that you're bringing this up because I've noticed this trend as people are kind of getting down the path now going into 2024 and as everybody's sort of like siding up a little bit.
	I've noticed people that I actually consider to be friends or at least allies.
	Just good guys, right?
	Just good guys.
	Yeah, good guys that are now saying really crazy, weird things that are super divisive.
	And I don't know why we're trying to split hairs, why we're trying to come at other conservatives instead of keeping our eye on the prize.
	Do you have any theory?
	Because, you know, I see this with the DeSantis thing.
	Lots of people I know, you know, who I'd have a coffee with and who are buddies of mine, have gone absolutely mental.
	They were massive Trump boosters and it's like they were jilted by, you know, on the altar and now they adore and literally worship the governor of Florida and are being disgustingly vituperative with the man they worshipped.
	I can't, I could never imagine you going a 180 on anybody who you trusted and who you supported.
	What is with these people?
	Are they just like cultists?
	I honestly think they're sellouts.
	I mean, a lot of the people, and I know you've called out the Cucinellis of the world, so I feel like I could say his name.
	I think these other people who have made these big switches are looking for the next opportunity, and they're looking to follow the money, and they think they're going to get more attention by doing that turn.
	And look, I have to live with myself at the end of of the day. So everything that you get from me is always
	going to be pretty dang consistent, at least as consistent as I can be. I don't know how other
	people do that, but I think there are people who are just looking for fame and
	followers, and they don't actually realize what they're doing to the whole of our movement. It's
	just bizarre. And to go after people like Jordan Peele, I don't know, just doesn't
	make a whole lot of sense to try to make these accusations.
	My response was, you know, to Monkey Boy, really, you're attacking one of the most influential,
	conservative influencers and thinkers of the modern age.
	You're just another loony.
	I mean, seriously, Monkey Boy, stick to your supplements, please.
	All right, we're having fun with Jennifer Horne.
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	www.SebGorGastaut.com What was that at the beginning of it?
	Go forward a little bit.
	bit jump forward. Yeah let's pitch that.
	Let's pitch that.
	I have these stories here.
	I don't know if any of these came from you.
	Tell me if any of these are really light or fire.
	But I got some cards to play as well.
	So this whole thing about San Francisco is fueling property boom in Honduras.
	Have you seen that?
	Oh, yeah, I did that one today.
	That's fascinating to me.
	Yeah.
	Toilet to tap water.
	That's a good one.
	Okay.
	And then I think that's all I picked out.
	Is there one more?
	Hang on.
	Yeah.
	So we have the legalizing the sex trafficking.
	That was that was incredible.
	That's boring.
	Who has anybody written really well on that that that bill that legalizing?
	Actually, I think I just saw Breitbart.
	It wasn't Joel.
	Who was it?
	Um, I just thought this morning, California Democrats block bill to make child trafficking a felony.
	It was, oh, it is Joel, actually.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	Yep.
	What else?
	I wanted to ask you something.
	Yeah, incredible.
	It's like, how do you look at yourself in the mirror?
	And what happens?
	Here's the scenario.
	You know, what happens if, God willing, President Trump wins?
	Yeah, and then what are you going to do?
	And then you've been a turncoat.
	The guy you went all, you know, incel, fanboy, simp on, doesn't win.
	Then who are you?
	I know.
	And what do you do next?
	Right.
	And who else is going to trust you?
	Nobody!
	I know.
	It's just, it's so, it's bizarre a world.
	That's the funny thing.
	I saw recently, even Cernovich has become critical to Sanders' campaign strategy.
	Like, he doesn't like all the Twitter surrogates.
	Even he is like, yeah, this is a little much.
	Oh, Eric, I dug into, because it became a bigger story, when we talked last week about the fact that they're changing winner take all because they don't want Trump to go to the polls.
	I am.
	Yeah, I dug around.
	All right, I'm going to ask you about that.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	By the way, also, Jen, I have been to Paso many times, and Sensorio, it really is incredible.
	It is cool, right?
	It's not hippie at all.
	It's totally fun.
	My wife wears Birkenstocks.
	This is a problem when it comes to marital bliss.
	This is an issue in our household.
	I have a zero Birkenstocks policy.
	I'm sorry.
	I might have to tell her.
	It'll be part of the podcast.
	First episode of your podcast.
	The Great Birkenstock Debate.
	Everybody says how comfortable they are, but they're not pretty.
	Well, the thing with Sensorial 2, it started as like a Christmas light show, right?
	Yeah, it was Christmas.
	Hippies.
	Light shows are for people on drugs.
	No, it's so good.
	I'm sorry.
	How do I describe it?
	It's like millions of light bulbs in the ground and you just walk through paths around them and they're all multicolored.
	Hippies.
	To people who are stoned.
	Fireworks, okay.
	It's beautiful.
	I was neither of those things, I promise.
	If it blows up in the sky, it's cool.
	Okay?
	If it's a firework.
	If it's on the ground and it's sparkly, you're a hippie.
	Look, I went to bat for fireworks over these stupid drug shows, but the censario's fun.
	Truly.
	And I actually, I had to call Grant out today.
	They were talking about... Don't threaten our friendship.
	They were talking about the cocaine and Grant sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
	but I'm like, um, were you out yourself here?
	Here's looking at you, snowflake.
	America first.
	I love chatting with Jen.
	Why?
	Because it's like... it's... it's...
	You know when you see those special effects like the Wrath of Khan and you see the different colored smoke in the water and you get these amazing shapes, things come together and it's all organic and it's... I'm geeking out here, stop it Gorka.
	We're gonna have fun!
	She's supposed to talk about California.
	We can talk about California.
	We've got to talk about national politics.
	Let's talk about at least one story because it kind of blew up for a millisecond last week.
	I covered it for one segment on my Newsmax show at the weekend.
	And then it kind of died.
	And you said in the break that you've been digging into it.
	What is going on with the California primaries and bringing it forward?
	Is it some big ploy by the GOP to outflank President Trump?
	Tell us what actually happened or is happening and what it all means, Jan.
	So we voted in California.
	California used to vote in June, always primaries, general election, it always vote, excuse me, for our primaries, we'd always vote in June.
	So during presidential years, we voted and this was not a Republican decision because you know, Republicans don't control anything.
	In California, the Democrats wanted to have more say in their primary process.
	So they along with Republicans voted to move presidential primary year.
	So we vote on Super Tuesday.
	So now California really matters.
	And what's interesting about because it's earlier, because it's earlier, because usually by the time June rolled around, you already had your nominees pretty much solidified.
	So for California Republicans, this puts us in a pretty powerful position because we offer I mean, we what President Trump got 6 million votes in California in 2020.
	He got a lot of votes from our state.
	So What's happening right now is that the RNC went to the GOP, allegedly, and said, well, you're not in compliance with our rules in your state of California.
	You have to change the way you allocate your vote distribution, essentially, after the primary.
	We were a winner-take-all state.
	So whoever got the majority of the votes was able to get the majority.
	They got everything.
	Well, the Republican Party in California went to its executive committee, which is Harmeet Dhillon, you probably know, Sean Steele, Jessica Patterson, who is our party's chair, and they said, well, this has to all be done by October 1st.
	So instead of allowing the delegates in the state of California to vote, they tried to this rule change through where they would actually do a
	division distribution.
	So even if someone in the California election got 2% of the votes, they could still get
	an allocation of the delegate total out of California.
	This obviously, if you look at the polling, is set up to hurt President Trump because
	he will probably win unless something shifts dramatically.
	The state of California, he's up over Ron DeSantis, 35% to 19 in the latest polls.
	And this was a shift.
	DeSantis was actually leading Trump back in January.
	So now the polls have shifted.
	35% Trump, 19% DeSantis.
	And so a lot of folks are feeling like this might be something from Maybe powerful members of Congress putting the pressure on the party chairwoman to make a decision about whether or not the delegates should go just simply to the winner or to other candidates as well to give them a boost.
	And they tried to pass this through under the guise of darkness.
	Well, somebody, Laura Loomer out of Florida blew the whistle on all of this and said, hey, RNC, you can't do this in secrecy.
	And so Harmeet Dhillon came out and said, well, we were tricked.
	They didn't know that this was a big lie, that they didn't have to change their rules undercover.
	And so now, the last I've heard, they're actually going to allow the delegates at the convention to vote as to whether or not we're going to maintain our winner-take-all status or become a distribution of sorts for delegates.
	But tricked by who?
	Well, that's the big question, and a lot of people are pointing fingers, but it looks like, probably, and I like her on a personal level, but the chairwoman, I think, had a big hand in all of this, and I think the RNC probably put the pressure on saying, just get this done.
	You mean Rona, Romney, McDowell?
	You like Romney?
	No, no, Jessica Patterson, our chairwoman from California.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, I think Ronna McDaniel actually did put the pressure on her to try to push this through.
	Otherwise, the threat was that California was going to lose half of our delegate totals, and we have the most delegates in the country.
	So what's the status right now?
	If Harmeet said we were tricked, Is this going to be stopped?
	She put out a full on backtrack letter that she sent out to all the delegates in California.
	It's pretty widely available on Twitter and you can read the whole thing.
	But I think right now they're in the process of saying we're actually going to vote at the convention now so delegates will actually have their opportunity to make their voices heard and then they're just going to transmit their votes to the RNC by the October 1st deadline.
	To try to subvert the system.
	Otherwise, I think the RNC was putting the pressure on California to make this change without actually consulting the delegates.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	All right.
	Well, keep us posted, please, any updates to that story.
	All right, let's look at at least one story I was given in my rundown today.
	I couldn't even believe the headline.
	This is from the Daily Mail, of course.
	Sanctuary City, San Francisco is fueling property boom in Texas?
	Arizona?
	No, no, no.
	Honduras.
	Can you tell us about this, Jen?
	Yeah, this story is absolutely insane.
	But I guess there's a city just north of the capital in Honduras that is seeing a huge boom in construction.
	They're building all of these mansions.
	The Daily Mail described it as gaudy mansions with gold emblems of the San Francisco 49ers.
	So clearly the connection to San Francisco is there.
	And so they said, well, it's a little weird.
	Well, it turns out that the drug traffickers from Honduras make their way to California.
	They set up shop in San Francisco, which has become a disaster.
	They sell their drugs and then the money goes right back into Honduras.
	They send the money home to fund all of these mansions that are popping up.
	And they even went in and said, well, how many people have actually been arrested?
	I think the number was only like 135.
	Over the last several years.
	And for those people, because California has decriminalized so much and nobody's going to jail, the people, even if they do get arrested, are being let right back out again so they can continue their business, selling drugs, keeping addicts on the streets and sending the money back in profit back to Honduras.
	Absolutely insane.
	Utterly, utterly insane.
	All right, last one.
	Let's squeeze it in.
	Toilet to tap water.
	Is that a joke?
	You want to have some tea?
	Yeah, boil it.
	A lot.
	This is no joke, actually.
	Apparently, we're going to start drinking from our toilets.
	The only question is, do you want the bowl or the tank?
	No, in all seriousness, California has a water problem.
	We haven't built reservoirs.
	We have not built anything new to capture water in 20 years in this state.
	And so they've talked a lot about desalinization, but the environmentalists block that almost at every turn.
	And these desalination plants are actually really worthwhile.
	They have like a membrane that filters out the water and actually brings better quality
	water out of the ocean than we get out of our taps in LA.
	So I was talking to Joel Pollack who wrote this article for Breitbart and he said they're doing the same technology now
	to take wastewater, toilet water essentially, after it's been used and they
	pass it through the same system and the water quality is better than the LA tap water right now.
	Well, I mean, how long did it take California to realize this?
	This is what Saudi Arabia has been doing for decades.
	Desalination.
	It's energy intensive.
	But if you need water, you need water.
	Maybe California has finally woken up.
	All right, that was too much fun.
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	President Trump I think we're going to keep that for a while.
	It looks so cool.
	Oh, my gosh!
	I wanted to play the Dylan Mulvaney video for you.
	All right.
	Oh, she's so sad.
	I mean, he's so sad, or it's so sad.
	Yeah, I know.
	So Jessica Patterson, very tied into Kevin McCarthy.
	So that's what makes me worry if he's legit or not, by the way.
	Interesting.
	So, I don't know.
	So what do you think?
	Do you think Harmeet is going to be able to shut that down?
	I hope so, but I question... I mean, I think she's pretty straightforward.
	So I do believe that they were lied to.
	I don't think that she's making that up, because Laura Loomer was saying that she's backtracking.
	I don't think so.
	I think she's on the up and up.
	No, Loomer's a loony.
	She can break stories, but she's a loony.
	Yeah, I do think the RNC, I think Ronna McDaniel, is trying to shut this operation down.
	And then it makes you wonder what she's doing in other states.
	Correct.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	You know, and the other thing, she's talking about ballot harvesting.
	I don't know if I mentioned this to you if you tried it.
	She's talking about ballot harvesting, election integrity.
	And so they have the new website that came out.
	So I decided to go to it.
	All it's done was collected my information.
	They send me fundraising text messages.
	Now that's it.
	Not a thing about voting plans or harvesting nothing.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Yeah.
	All right, you guys.
	Well, have a great rest of the day.
	Thanks, Jen.
	You as well, Jen.
	See you next week.
	All righty.
	God bless.
	Give me one.
	Mic's on.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hello, who's this?
	Robert, are you there?
	Line one.
	Three, two, one.
	He hung up.
	I miss the time when they didn't realize it was the breaks and they thought they were going on air.
	Can you email her, Geoff, and ask if they can push the camera further back?
	And then all I want you to post, Eric, is the Cernovich portion of the A block.
	shoulder shoulder always and then all I want you to post Eric is the the
	Cernovich portion of the a block oh so cut the rest of the a block yeah I don't
	want B and I just want the second half of the a block Oh, okay.
	And the title is, um, so Jordan Peterson, so, uh, what does he call himself?
	Uh, Cerno, right?
	I guess?
	So, uh, so Cerno thinks Jordan Peterson is CIA now?
	Question mark, exclamation.
	And that was the second half of A, you said?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	He's a weird one.
	He always has been.
	He looks like a flipping hobo.
	I don't know why people like Milius like him.
	Well, stuff that I've heard that's unverified is apparently he hates shampoo.
	He thinks like all shampoo is a scam.
	He looks like it.
	I mean, he looks like he could, you know, dredge oil out of his scalp.
	30 seconds.
	Right.
	My pillow.
	Oh, and Jeff, get ready to talk football coaches.
	Not coming in with anything?
	No.
	Alrighty.
	Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
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	Hi, is this an okay time?
	Okay, surprise!
	I'm in Peru and I'm at Machu Picchu.
	Isn't this just so beautiful?
	I'm here by myself and I used to do a ton of solo traveling.
	I'm telling you, it's the best.
	If you could ever do a solo trip somewhere, it is such a good way to get to know yourself better.
	But I came here to feel something, you know what I mean?
	And I definitely have.
	I've done shaman ceremonies that were like Such a freak.
	I went to Peru to feel something.
	Yeah, I bet you're feeling something right now.
	Shaman ceremonies!
	And the people here are so kind.
	I feel very safe here.
	It's a little sad that I had to leave my country to feel safe, but that will get better eventually.
	Such a freak.
	I went to Peru to feel something.
	Yeah, I bet you're feeling something right now.
	Shaman ceremonies!
	Better than 10 years of psychotherapy.
	Get me a bucket.
	All right, let's talk about real news.
	I didn't even get to it yesterday because it's three hours.
	It's just not enough.
	But we'll have to call in the experts because it's about this thing called foot the ball.
	Football, football.
	Let's ask our expert.
	Mr. G, are you there?
	Yes, I am.
	Alright, a story about you called him the winningest football coach.
	What happened to Pat Fitzgerald from Northwestern?
	Yeah, he's the winningest coach in Northwestern football history.
	And Northwestern doesn't have a very good football team for a long, long time.
	I think he started back in 2005, 2006.
	He's been there a long time and he's made them respectable.
	He's won more games than any other coach has in history.
	And it came out there was one player that said that he was hazed by players.
	It didn't get very much into the details, which is weird, and I read so many different stories on that.
	It's very vague.
	Said he was hazed by a couple of players.
	So they did this investigation for six months.
	They interviewed players, former players, looked at hundreds of thousands of emails, all that stuff, and they conclude that, yeah, the hazing may have happened, and it was to one person.
	All the players said it was grossly exaggerated.
	And they also concluded that there was no evidence anywhere that's through emails, texts, anything that the head football coach had anything to do with it.
	And he got fired.
	So this isn't the usual wokery of, you know, pride events and jerseys or whatever.
	This is one accusation by one person, which is hearsay.
	No corroboration and the guy gets fired.
	Exactly.
	And then it made it out of the sports media world and everyone's praising him.
	This toxic masculinity needs to stop.
	Northwestern did the right thing here.
	That's the whole entire narrative.
	But what was the guy supposed to do?
	It was one incident and he had no idea it happened.
	So what do you think happens to Pat Fitzgerald?
	Is he one and done?
	He's under contract, which is weird.
	Because he was suspended?
	Yes, but then he was fired.
	But he signed a couple years ago a 10-year contract.
	I remember they said they wanted to make him coach for life.
	Isn't that a little unusual?
	Yes, it is to get that much.
	So he's going to probably try to get the money back there.
	But I think he'll go somewhere else.
	He'll come back.
	Sounds a bit like Tucker Carlson, right?
	Exactly.
	Fired, but not fired.
	Still getting paid.
	Very, very suspicious.
	Thank you for our sports update from the one, the only, Mr. G. Alright, more of your calls here.
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	We can save those.
	Let's go to your calls waiting patiently in Dayton, line one.
	Dick.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	Yes, hi.
	It's been a while.
	I thought I'd give you a buzz.
	I just was telling your screener that I've retired from Lowe's and everything, but I'm just kind of disappointed.
	I don't think Biden's the answer.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	When did you think Biden was the answer?
	Not the answer.
	Right, right.
	So you're surprised?
	Well, no, I just think we need leaders.
	We need to get back to the American dream, like democracy and things.
	But some of the things he does best, and I just can't figure out how we're You know, how we're just failing, and we've got to get back to the... Well, it's easy.
	It's very easy.
	If you hate America, these are the policies you follow.
	What would you do differently if you hated America, apart from open the borders, be soft on crime, be friends to our enemies, and treat our friends like enemies?
	I mean, it's very simple.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I thought I'd put my two cents worth in.
	Well, I appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	And I remember you calling us during, under the ravages of COVID.
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	Yeah.
	The problem is, is the view, the show, the view.
	Yeah.
	And all the suburban Karens.
	And I have them in my own family, you know, and it's like, you know, with their little pistol, you know, President Trump, you know.
	But it's not just, hey buddy, Joe, it's not just the, you know, the shooting, the rhetorical pistol at the president.
	Look at what they said.
	We actually have a cut from Joy Behar on The View.
	She's talking about Joe Biden and it's just hard to believe they can say this with a straight face.
	This is cut five.
	Does someone being angry make you turned on?
	I'm turned on by Biden's anger.
	I am, too.
	I like it.
	You like it?
	I do.
	Well, you have said that before.
	I like that.
	I mean, he's such a mild-mannered, sweet guy.
	But you know he's not.
	Listen, he has dropped more F-bombs than I have.
	Uncle Joe over the years.
	Uncle Joe has done that.
	I mean, over the years, we've heard him off mic say stuff.
	I mean, he's a regular guy.
	I don't know what she's talking about.
	She doesn't like this.
	She doesn't like that.
	She's confused there.
	So it's white male privilege.
	A woman or a black guy couldn't do it.
	off-steam, it's white male privilege it's called. Imagine if it's a woman or a black guy doing that.
	She's confused there. So it's white male privilege, a woman or a black guy couldn't do it,
	but when Joe Biden gets angry, Joe, Joy Behar is turned on.
	Well it's a long way from Mayberry RFD, that's all I've got to say.
	But you think this is the big challenge?
	That the views of the view being transmitted to the suburban housewives?
	They've ruined the country, in my opinion.
	You know, I was married for 20 years, you know, and have two kids, but...
	You know, go figure.
	My ex came back to Trump all on her own and I never said a word to her.
	I'm curious, Joe, did you find out, if it wasn't you, what made your ex-wife come back to President Trump?
	Do you know?
	Yeah, it was the home heating costs, the food costs, The gasoline cost, the car cost, you know, it's just on and on, sir.
	Well, that's absolutely fascinating.
	Hopefully that sense of just common sense will infect many others.
	Thank you, Joe.
	Thank you for your patience.
	Let's listen to, well, shall we say that she's one of these suburban women who's a problem?
	Nikki Haley was a member of the Trump administration and now she's just another turncoat.
	Cut 11.
	I mean, when he feels attacked or he feels threatened, he's incredibly thin-skinned and he starts to lash out.
	That's why, you know, I've always told him, he can tell you, I've always said, you know, you're your own worst enemy.
	Don't do this.
	But he has done that.
	What would he tell you when you told him that?
	We had a great working relationship because he knew I told him the truth.
	I always told him the truth because I wanted him and America to do well.
	And I've always been a truth teller.
	I'm going to continue to tell hard truths to people whether they want to hear it or not, whether they're Republicans or Democrats.
	Kim Reynolds is the best governor in the country.
	Ooh, don't tell Ron DeSantis.
	Hey, Jeff, President Trump is always lashing out.
	I mean, he just does that randomly, right?
	Because he's never attacked by anyone.
	Exactly.
	All day, every day, everyone attacks him.
	And more people from his own party, I think, attack him as much as the Democrats.
	Right, right.
	But when he responds, it's...
	Lashing out.
	Exactly.
	Not defending himself.
	No, no.
	You're not allowed to defend yourself.
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	America First Magnificent!
	I gotta concentrate on this phenomena of turncoats.
	I mean, it's really... How do these people just live with themselves?
	Even the former vice president is doing it.
	It's really quite shameful.
	Cut nine.
	I would relish the opportunity to debate not just the future of the Republican Party, but the future of the country.
	I'm somebody that, as the former president and frankly others in this race, are minimizing the importance of American leadership in the world.
	I think, as I said before, we've got to be the leader of the free world.
	We've got to stand strong with those who are just standing up against tyranny and push back on authoritarian regimes and their use of aggression.
	We're drawing our national lines.
	Fiscal responsibility, the same.
	The right to life, the same.
	I see the president, in one case after another, kind of shying away from the agenda that carried us to the White House in 2016, got 10 million more votes in 2020.
	And frankly, it's still the platform that I'm going to campaign on.
	Hang on, did he just say that he's more Trump than Trump?
	Jeff, help me out here.
	He said, President Trump?
	I thought he was talking about Biden, but clearly then he said the thing that propelled us to the White House.
	President Trump is shying away from the things that got us into the White House?
	What is he talking about?
	This has been this whole weird campaign thing.
	It's because he's taking credit for everything that Trump did.
	What?
	Because he's saying it's the Trump-Pence administration did this, this, this, this.
	So I don't know how he's trying to... I get that.
	I get trying to steal, you know, some of the glory for himself.
	But how has President Trump not doubled down since he left office on every key issue from the deep state on down, as opposed to, quote, shying away?
	What is he talking about?
	Eric, what is he talking about?
	I don't even know.
	I mean, I think in that statement, he reflects, he displays his own ignorance of what the Trump agenda is about.
	He says that these are propellers of the White House, like fiscal responsibility.
	And I'm like, no, it was an America First agenda on immigration, on trade.
	That's what it was about.
	So he still doesn't understand it all these years later.
	Stunning.
	Let's go to Matt.
	We've got 60 seconds before the end of the hour and the entry into our one-on-one.
	Matt, what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Hello, Mr. Commander of the conservative radio.
	Greetings.
	Everything else Biden has done is not impeachable.
	How about telling all our enemies we're low on howitzer ammunition?
	That's like the dirt on top of the grave.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
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	Yeah, much appreciated.
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	However, there are some issues where, look, we're human.
	And sometimes you feel like saying, Is it at all fixable?
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	I consider him a good friend and he is definitely a good friend of America First Commissioner
	Mark Morgan.
	Welcome in studio for one on one.
	Thanks Sebastian, thanks for having me.
	Alright and I have to add here he is now Senior Law Enforcement Analyst for Newsmax and you
	can see him often on my other buddy Chris Plant's evening show The Squad.
	Are you having fun there as a panelist?
	You know, first it was a little outside my comfort zone, Sebastian, because they talk about some topics.
	Like one of the topics, I think, was the Wheel of Fortune is getting a new host, and whether Vanna White should get more money.
	I really don't care.
	No, I really didn't and I felt like I was wasting my time.
	At least I told you to just have fun with it, right?
	Yeah, just have fun with it.
	That's kind of what I'm doing and I am kind of having fun with it.
	Good, good.
	Well, you're a great addition to the team and you do make it so enjoyable.
	Watch it now!
	9 p.m.
	Monday to Friday.
	That's Chris Planson's show.
	All right, for those of you who've been in a cave for the last few years, who don't know who Commissioner Morgan is, will you just give us a potted summary?
	Because you have a storied career, not just inside the Department of Homeland Security, but in the military, in law enforcement.
	So tell us, give us the elevator pitch of what you've done in your life, Mark.
	Enlisted in the United States Marine when I was 19 years old, later became a commissioned officer.
	Then I... Why did you do that?
	Why did you enlist age 19?
	So, first, my father served in the Army, and then my uncle, he was in the Marine Corps, and he did three tours in Vietnam.
	He flew a Huey gunship, was wounded, had what we call fruit salad medals up and over his shoulder, just a true hero, true warrior, and that's what I grew up seeing and respecting.
	What did your dad do as an army guy when you enlisted in the Marine Corps?
	Yeah, so it's funny what we shared in common, both my father, my brother, and I. He went to a jump school in Fort Benning, Georgia.
	My father went there, my brother went there, and I went there.
	We all shared that in common.
	But he didn't have issues with you joining the Devil Dogs?
	No, he was proud.
	I mean, he knew we had a good relationship with my uncle.
	He was just quietly... My mom was upset, but my dad was quietly proud.
	Your mom was upset?
	Why?
	Because you were joining the armed forces?
	I was the baby.
	I was the baby, right?
	He doesn't look like a baby now.
	So, you enlisted, you became an officer.
	How many years in?
	I had about 11 years active duty and reserves.
	Wow.
	And then what happened?
	And so then I went to... I made a mistake.
	I don't know what I was thinking, but I went to law school.
	What?
	I know.
	You wanted to be a lawyer, Martin?
	Oh my God.
	I'm going to have to re-evaluate this friendship rapidly.
	So you went to law school, what happened there?
	Yeah, so then I kind of did it backwards.
	I went to law school, or graduated law school, I passed the Missouri Bar, and then I joined Los Angeles Police Department.
	Wow!
	Yeah.
	And why are you from California?
	I spent a lot, in the Marine Corps, so I spent a lot of time there.
	And I, if I had to do it over again, Sebastian, I'd do it exactly the same kind of backwards way.
	Why?
	Why was going to law school and then becoming a cop the right way?
	Because I was able to see the real world application of the law in the streets, right?
	So it wasn't some esoteric thing that I had this understanding that I read in a book.
	Were you the irritating rookie who would quote the code to your patrol sergeant?
	Yeah, sometimes.
	Okay, I can imagine that.
	I was.
	And what was that like?
	So what years are we talking, like 90s?
	Yeah, mid-90s.
	What was it like in the LAPD in the 90s?
	So it was shortly after Rodney King, that first episode.
	So it was a tumultuous time.
	It was challenging.
	But I worked in what they call South Central, one of the 18 geographical divisions.
	Just to put it in perspective, the riots, Florence and Normandy, where the riots started, that intersection was in the middle of my reporting district.
	So I think the first year I was there we saw, I think it was in excess of around a hundred and some homicides.
	I mean I saw homicide or a serious assault with a deadly weapon probably every other shift when I was there.
	So like DC in the last 12 months?
	Absolutely, yeah.
	What kind of jobs did you do in the LAPD?
	I was patrol, that's it.
	That's the whole time I was there because I really wasn't there that long and then I joined the FBI.
	All right.
	And why did you make that jump to the Feds?
	You know, it was a challenging jump.
	If I had my choice, I would have rather stayed at LAPD for maybe four or five years to get that experience.
	But the end of the day is I didn't see myself staying in the same city.
	I think I was just of an age I wanted to see more of the country, more of the world.
	And the FBI was very inviting and really provided that.
	And it did.
	20 years in the FBI, I was able to not only live in multiple cities in the United States, but I traveled all over the world.
	So what was it like, let's go back in time, walking the yellow brick road at Quantico, what was the FBI Academy like?
	What kind of experience was it?
	Did it live up to your expectations based upon movies or what was it like?
	Yes and no, but again, I'd already been through... If you're not aware, there's, you know, the Yellow Brick Road is a thing at Quantico, and you can get a brick from there.
	Iconic thing, right, right.
	Yes and no, I mean, but to put it in perspective, I'd already been through enlisted boot camp, I'd already been through many schools, the drill instructor school in the Marine Corps, I'd been through OCS, you know, I'd been through LAPD Academy, so it wasn't my kind of first bite at the apple as far as Academy and going through, you know, kind of a rigorous process.
	But it was still, you know, it was a little challenging.
	It was good.
	It was more formal, more cerebral than some of the other academies I went to.
	And in the past, a lot of FBI guys are former Marines.
	A lot.
	A lot of former law enforcement, former military, you know, across the board.
	Absolutely.
	Now, there are major divisions inside the FBI.
	You've got the criminal, federal crimes, you've got counterintelligence, you've got counterterrorism.
	What did you end up doing in the Bureau?
	A little bit of everything.
	I'd say most of my time as an agent, I worked organized crime, more the traditional criminal side.
	But then as you go up the ladder and you get promoted, now you're overseeing.
	You may not be specifically investigating a certain, you know, category of crime, but you're overseeing that.
	And so ultimately one of the jobs I had was special in charge of the El Paso division.
	Oh wow.
	And there I oversaw all divisions, whether it was counterintelligence, you know, Counter-terrorism.
	Sorry.
	Counter-intelligence, counter-terrorism, traditional criminal work, public corruption across the board, UROC, all of that.
	And the ironic part was, was my time as a special lieutenant in charge of the FBI, the El Paso Division, that's what started my journey to border security.
	All right, let's talk about that.
	So, how many years in the Bureau?
	Twenty.
	And then what happens?
	And then, so, at the last, during one of my last assignments in the Bureau, I was actually tapped to go over to Customs and Border Protection.
	As a secondee?
	As a, just a, kind of a liaison position.
	I went over there, but I was actually assigned to be the Acting Assistant Director, I mean, Associate Commissioner of then their Office of Professional Responsibility.
	As an FBI guy?
	As an FBI guy.
	Wasn't that unusual?
	It was.
	So I was the number two of the FBI's, for lack of a better term, their internal affairs.
	I was number two.
	CBP was having some issues with their number one internal affairs guy, their assistant commissioner.
	So they moved him out, brought me in, and I did that for about nine months.
	And so my time is at SAC, at El Paso, and then that is really what kind of solidified my appetite for Customs and Border Protection.
	All right.
	And then how do you put on the green uniform?
	It was weird.
	I was assistant director at the FBI Academy.
	That's really where I thought I was going to end my career.
	And I get a call from the then commissioner and deputy commissioner saying, hey, the chief of the Border Patrol position is opening up.
	I knew both of them through my interactions.
	And would you be interested?
	What year is this?
	This is 2015.
	And so I said, let me process that.
	And I went home, and I thought about it, and I'm like, I'm in.
	I'm in.
	Because when I was in El Paso, that's the first time.
	I'm reluctant to actually talk about this a lot.
	I was actually kind of ignorant about what CBP was.
	Remember, they'd only been created since 2003.
	But even then, Border Patrol had been around since 1924.
	But, Sebastian, I literally knew nothing about them until I got to El Paso.
	And I saw them.
	I saw the big green machine.
	I mean, immediately, they gained my admiration, my respect.
	I mean, a lot of their attitude and how they do things reminded me of my time as a Marine.
	And so I got to know them.
	And so when this opportunity came up, I was like, God, be honored.
	I'm in.
	I think we've learned more about Mark Morgan in just the first few minutes of this show
	than anybody else has pried out of him.
	Maybe it's my two and a half years at Quantico.
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	All right, so you're given the offer, or it's floated to you in 2015.
	What happens next?
	How do you end up in the green uniform as the acting commissioner?
	So I go through the typical process, even though I've been in the FBI for almost 20 years then, and I was at SES, they call it Select Senior Executive Service.
	And even though I've been there, DHS and the FBI, it's different, it's goofy.
	Why would it be the same?
	I mean, why would one law enforcement federal agency be the same as another federal law enforcement agency?
	Yeah, so goofy.
	So I had to go through the whole process, do all these written examples of my background and stuff.
	I had to apply to be SES under DHS, even though I've already been... It's absurd.
	So I go through the process, do the interview, and they hire me.
	But I tell you, I was naive.
	I really was.
	To what?
	To just how politically divisive You mean politically?
	was from the outside and just how divisive the actual border was. I just
	didn't realize it. You mean politically? Politically, yes.
	So when do you first get to meet President Trump?
	So that wasn't until... so here's another thing too a lot of people don't realize.
	So I never met President Trump as the chief of the Border Patrol.
	He actually fired me.
	Yeah.
	Tell us the story.
	Yeah.
	So what happened was, in fact, I was actually getting ready.
	So remember Inauguration Day?
	He had the parade in front of the White House.
	So I thought it was great.
	So he actually had Border Patrol there.
	It was great.
	First time that ever happened.
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So we brought up all the horses.
	Border Patrol has the largest population of horses outside the military than any other law enforcement organization in the country.
	It's awesome.
	It's this great, just kind of eclectic group of folks that are really, really honored to do what they do.
	And so we flew horses in.
	What is that called?
	Is it like an equine division or what is that called?
	They call it the Horse Patrol.
	Horse Patrol.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Border Patrol is always simple, right?
	And so, we brought horses in, a big contingent of Border Patrol personnel, and as a chief, I was supposed to then, as they were passing, to join him, right?
	And I'm literally sitting there.
	I'm minutes away from making my way to the reviewing stand, and my adjutant gets called from the Secret Service to stand down.
	What?
	Yeah, that's how that happened.
	Give us the backstory.
	Yeah, and so I don't know the backstory.
	All I know is that at some point, you know, somebody in the administration had made a decision.
	That they wanted somebody else.
	That they wanted somebody else.
	And I still today, and that's why I don't speculate, I don't know.
	I honestly don't know how that got there, you know, who made that decision.
	All I know is, is President Trump was fed bad information.
	Yeah.
	And it took him a little while to figure that out.
	And then what happens?
	He calls me up.
	I'm literally, it's a raining day.
	So how long?
	So inauguration day, you're told to stand up.
	About 18 months.
	18 months?
	What are you doing?
	You're just like chilling out?
	What are you doing?
	I did a couple of things, but at that moment, I was actually retired, retired.
	I was taking a break.
	I bet you were going nuts.
	I was.
	You were crawling up the wall.
	I was.
	I was.
	I was trying to find every little project to do around the house and, you know, typical thing.
	And it was a Saturday and we're sitting in the gazebo and it's raining outside and I get a call and I see quadruple zero at the end.
	I knew it was the White House.
	I answer it.
	It's President Trump.
	How was that call?
	It was... Did you feel animosity?
	Were you angry?
	Did you have a grudge?
	No, zero.
	What was his tone?
	Zero, because he saw me for the last probably year because I broke my silence and I went out and I was supporting him and nobody knew what to do with me, Sebastian, because they were like, Wait a minute.
	Hang on, he was fired and he's supporting the president.
	What's going on?
	Well, the liberal media, at first, they thought, oh hey, they're going to have a live one.
	They've got this former, you know, Chief of Border Patrol.
	He's going to stab President Trump in the back.
	Right, right.
	And it came on.
	And you could see it.
	And there were several shows, like in mid-interview, they were like, they were scrambled.
	They were like, wait a minute.
	This is what I thought he was going to say, because I was supporting him.
	You mean he won the wall?
	Exactly.
	But he fired you.
	Exactly.
	I think there was a couple of questions.
	And so, no, it's a little sappy and corny.
	Maybe it's the Marine in me, but it was the President of the United States.
	I was honored to get the call.
	And how quickly did he say, do you want the job?
	Did he come right out?
	Right out.
	But here's another thing, too.
	This is so many reasons why I love the man.
	He said, Mark, just take your time.
	Talk it over with your family.
	And then why don't you just come and talk to me on Monday in the Oval Office, and we'll go from there.
	What was that like on Monday?
	It was funny.
	There's a funny story there too.
	Tell us.
	So I'm sitting there and, you know, like I'm a grown man, I'm a confident guy, but this is the first time in my life I'm getting ready to meet the President of the United States in the Oval Office, right?
	It's never happened before.
	So are you a little anxious?
	Yeah, honestly you are.
	So I'm sitting there and then somebody comes in just literally two minutes before I'm ready to go in the Oval Office to meet the President.
	And he tells me, hey Mark, he goes, he goes... Have you been in there before under prior administrations?
	No, never.
	Never been in there before?
	No, first time, first time.
	And so he's like, Mark, you know, hey, you know, what CBP needs is a, is a confirmed commissioner.
	So we were thinking about, hey, why don't you go and get a staff job at DHS while you go through the confirmation process.
	And once you get that, then you can, you know, go.
	That's a staffer telling you that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that's... You go tread water somewhere.
	Exactly.
	Right.
	That's not me.
	No.
	Right?
	So I go in, and President Trump's talking.
	We do the greetings.
	He just comes across like... Just genuine.
	Just genuine!
	That's a perfect word for it.
	Genuine.
	So I'm having a conversation, and then that comes up from an individual.
	And, you know, President Trump looks at me.
	He's like, Mark.
	So he goes, and President Trump goes, OK, I guess that sounds right.
	And I said, Mr. President, with all due respect, I said, I don't give a crap.
	About, except I used a different word, first time I ever met the president, and I said, I don't give a crap about being confirmed.
	I said, what I care about is getting to work immediately, doing a job, carrying out your strategy to protect this country.
	And he kind of looked at everybody, goes, huh, seems like I have some deep, deep state stuff going on right here.
	And he goes, congratulations.
	So you were acting within what?
	I mean, the process started that day.
	But remember, he actually brought me on as the acting ICE director.
	Oh, OK.
	Yeah.
	So that's the job that I initially had.
	And I did that for about nine weeks.
	So where's Holman at this point?
	Because he was acting ICE as well.
	He'd been retired for a year.
	OK.
	So they put you in the acting ICE slot.
	Correct.
	And then made you acting commissioner.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Man, have you told this story anywhere else, Mark Moore?
	What I just told you right now, no.
	We love it.
	It's, you know, this is the thing that I always get asked wherever I am.
	What is he really like?
	And you've just heard it right there.
	It's just...
	I'm sorry I got bad news for you.
	If you've been alive for the last 20, 30, 40 years, if you've seen President Trump in public, if you've seen him on a TV show or in a stadium in front of 60,000 people, what you see is what you get.
	And if you deal with him straight, like the Commissioner did, said, no, I'm not treading water for six months.
	I need a job to do for you and for the American people.
	He says, OK, you are the acting commissioner.
	That's how much he loves this country, as does Mark Morgan.
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	All right, I've got him in studio in front of a camera.
	He's not strapped down, but he can't escape.
	I've got a bone to pick with you, Mark Morgan.
	Are you ready?
	Are you ready?
	I'm not sure, because when you get angry, I'm not sure.
	You did say I look bigger in real life than you expected today.
	I've got at least an inch on top of him.
	My wife was a presidential appointee in the Department of Homeland Security, and she worked pretty hard, long hours, and then This guy, this guy, full disclosure, steals my wife from DHS to become his press secretary and I think I saw my wife maybe three times in four months.
	I think it was like ships in the night, she'd leave at like 5 30 in the morning to meet you at Fox, she'd be home at like 8 p.m at night and and you know what was the worst thing of all Mark Morgan?
	That I will never forgive you and the president I'm a big gun guy, and I love cop shows.
	I'm in streets of San Francisco, Kojak.
	The day my wife, who doesn't even like guns, comes home with a badge and federal credentials, I was the most jealous husband on the planet.
	I work for the president!
	I didn't get federal creds!
	And she got a badge!
	Didn't get a gun, but she got a badge.
	So did you have something with her leaving?
	Is that what... I mean... Well, no, no, no.
	The fact that you worked so hard.
	She was awesome.
	Oh, she was great.
	She loved working for you.
	I loved working for you.
	She was great.
	And you, Matt, you burnt the candle at both ends.
	And let's talk about this for a second, seriously.
	Let's talk about it not just as conservatives but as patriots.
	One of the biggest problems we have when it comes to the border is just telling the story.
	Correct.
	Because it's not a hard story to sell.
	I tell people, one advice, how do we talk about the border with people who don't agree with us or don't like President Trump?
	Well, how about the fact that left-wing organizations like Human Rights Watch says that up to 60-70% of the women who are trafficked and the children are raped?
	Are you for child rape?
	If you're not, shouldn't you build the wall?
	It doesn't seem to me to be complicated.
	Why do we have this inability to just tell the story of why a secure border is good for everybody, including the people who are trafficked?
	Agreed.
	Sebastian, first of all, I couldn't agree more, and I couldn't have said it better myself.
	I've been saying for a very long time, you don't have to be a border security expert to understand that what's happening to the border is destroying our country on multiple levels.
	But it's also evil.
	It is.
	And here's why.
	So obviously I get asked all the time, hey, so what's your perspective on the border?
	And I go through my spiel of how we had the most secure border in a lifetime under President Trump.
	We had a network of tools, authorities, and policies that allowed us to do that.
	And how this administration came in and intentionally unsecured the border.
	So I get through that full stop.
	We're still at that today.
	That's what's going on.
	But equally important is they're lying to the American people about it.
	And so there's this false narrative.
	So I think when most people that especially don't live on the physical border, they hear about the border.
	What they hear is the White House and Secretary Marcos and open board advocates.
	And the image they have of is a 19-year-old Honduran woman with two kids in her hand looking for a better life.
	That's what they vision.
	Refugees from political persecution.
	Correct.
	We've lost the narrative.
	And that false narrative has been building for a very long time.
	I think decades.
	I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	And so I think that it's been building for decades.
	We're so behind the power curve on the false narrative out there.
	It's hard to unring the bill.
	It's hard to unwind that.
	So no matter how many times we say about 30% of young women and children are sexually assaulted and raped on the journey, how Border Patrol agents have interviewed a 14-year-old girl who counted how she was raped multiple times, how many of the migrants that are smuggled in the United States, they also are trafficked after they get here.
	They just don't realize it until it's too late.
	Or that they found 1,500 dead migrants in the last 28 months.
	I could go on and on, Sebastian.
	We never hear about any of that.
	You think Sound of Freedom, that the movie is going to help with that, which has already netted $40 million in two weeks?
	If we get people to watch it.
	So you mentioned the Chris Plant show, and Jason Nichols was on there.
	And one of the things he said that really disturbed me, and I got fired up.
	This is the token left winger.
	Correct.
	And I got fired up.
	I know it's easy to do for me sometimes, but especially when somebody on that side.
	And he says, eh.
	He's like, that's not really a movie I'd like to see.
	I'm really not into hearing about how kids are put in the life of trafficking.
	And I'm like, what?
	I said, it's not fiction.
	You know, you're not seeing it for pleasure.
	But aren't they supposed to be the ones who care about minorities and the persecuted?
	Exactly.
	I said, this is the movie that everyone in America should see to get educated and to get aware with respect to the atrocities that are happening because our administration is supporting illegal immigration, which supports and drives cartels to Just put these migrants and thrust them into this life of trafficking and atrocities associated with it.
	Everybody should watch this.
	And I think if they did, I think we would be united as a country, regardless of where you stand on the political aisle.
	Right?
	To quote Chris Plant, if the left didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
	We're talking to the former Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.
	You're listening to America First, one-on-one.
	Coming to you from the ReliefFactor.com studios.
	How many migrants died in 2022?
	uh... at our uh... approaching our southern border? Yes.
	Precisely why we're seeking to exclude this smuggled organization. So do
	you know the answer? Do you know how many died?
	I do not. You do not. Of course you don't. I know how many died. Eight hundred and
	fifty three.
	Eight hundred and fifty three. And by the way, here are the numbers that have died every year.
	You go back to 1998, you see it's consistently between 300 and 400, 300, 400, 300, 400.
	Suddenly, 2021, what happens?
	You get in office, and that red line are dead bodies.
	I've been on the Rio Grande, and I've seen dead bodies floating there who drowned because of your refusal to do your job.
	You don't even know how many have died!
	What do you say to the Texas farmers and ranchers who find pregnant ladies dead on their property, who find toddlers dead on their property?
	What do you say to them?
	I say that is why, precisely, we are taking it to the smuggling organizations.
	But you are not!
	That is simply not true.
	I, um, yeah.
	Applause for Senator Cruz.
	I'm used to cynicism in this city, Mark.
	But that, that just enrages me.
	I don't think there's anybody, apart from maybe the president, but he's clearly not with it half the time mentally, I don't think there's anybody who lies as persistently about such tragic things as the Secretary of Homeland Security, who by
	the way, was a very senior DHS official under Obama, so he knows exactly...
	Deputy Secretary.
	Right.
	So he knows what he's doing.
	He knows how they secure borders.
	He knows how you open borders.
	He knows the data.
	He knows the facts.
	Absolutely.
	So to say that he doesn't know that it rocketed from 300 a year to 900 illegals a year dying
	on the border, the fact that he says he doesn't know the number is one thing, which is probably
	untrue, but secondly, I don't think he cares, Mark.
	What do you think?
	So here's what I think.
	And you may disagree with me, but just let me see if this makes sense.
	So I don't think he's a politician.
	I think he's an ideologue.
	And I've served for 40 years.
	I've served under six administrations, both Republican and Democrat.
	And in this administration, here's something that I've never seen to this degree.
	And it's so you have your political appointees, like every administration on both sides.
	But what you have in this administration is the political appointees and this unbelievable convergence of ideologues.
	Like we've never seen in our history, he's an ideologue.
	And so he's not stupid, but because the only thing that's in front of the lobe, the only thing that he sees is his personal ideology, that makes him ignorant of the truth, reality, and fact.
	It doesn't matter to him, because the only thing that matters is his open border ideology.
	Because, and let's unpack it, why does that Ideology drive him or to what end?
	Is it as cynical, is it A, a hatred of conceptually national sovereignty or America, or B, is it really, which seems to be the most plausible, but also the most cynical, that they don't care how many people die because if they let in six million illegals in, you know, 20 months, they think they're brown.
	Therefore, if we amnesty them, they'll vote Democrat.
	And even if we don't amnesty them, the census, in states that have increased illegal populaces will mean
	that more seats are accredited to them based upon the census in the House of Representatives.
	I mean, is it really that politically cynical?
	What else could it be?
	I think it's a combination and an interwoven push on both of those.
	I think that's why I think we're seeing such travesties happen because you have the political
	appointees that are doing it for that reason.
	And then you've got Mayorkas, the ideologue, that's doing it for other reasons.
	I don't know if it's the fact, and I don't know, so there's some speculation.
	Like loyalty to Biden or to the other ideologues?
	His own path.
	Of being an immigrant, you know?
	Oh, because he's from Cuba as a kid.
	Exactly.
	So he thinks this is... So he thinks this is his way of paying it back that everybody... He was a legal immigrant.
	He was a Peter Pan kid, right?
	Correct.
	But again, when you're an ideologue, reality, truth, fact, and the law doesn't matter.
	Only the pursuit of your ideology, right?
	That's the issue.
	Right.
	I'm going to get very angry.
	Let's be fair.
	Let's say that the blame is not all upon the ideologues and on the politicians.
	It's on organizations as well that are non-governmental.
	And I'm a Catholic.
	I'm a cradle Catholic.
	I just want to show you a clip from outside a Catholic charity on the border from a man who's doing incredible work with the War Room.
	I consider him to be a friend of mine, Ben Burkwam.
	Let's play the cut of him on my show recently.
	And you can see behind me, I'm actually at Catholic Charities in McAllen, Texas, one of the profiteers of this invasion.
	Just to give you an idea of how much money this organization has, they own this entire building behind me, they own a building across the street over here, and they own this entire building across the street here as well.
	Every single person that comes across illegally, they get money for, and that's why they're on the Mexico side.
	That's why they're aiding and abetting and training people on how to claim fake asylum.
	And that's why they're here, transporting people throughout the United States.
	This isn't just DHS and politicians.
	Yeah, so this is a dirty little secret too.
	And let's make no mistake, these Catholic charities, they're getting a ton of money from the federal government.
	So there's even a darker side to it that really needs to be fully investigated, Sebastian.
	But here, look, just like when Hitler came to power the Nazis, even back then there were some people that used religion to justify what he was doing.
	Yeah, be charitable, right?
	You know, you want to have a healthy population, so be charitable, so maybe eugenics is good.
	So that's the excuse back then.
	Now it's be charitable, but actually it's a multi-multi-multi-million dollar business to take our money and funnel as many legals into the country under the cloak that these are asylum seekers.
	Correct, correct.
	Under-cloaked asylum seekers, we know the overwhelming majority are not.
	They're economic migrants.
	That's not a bad asylum claim.
	And, Sebastian, so this is what I always say.
	One of the greatest strengths of this country is our compassion.
	And I keep saying our compassion has been hijacked.
	by this administration, by Secretary Mayorkas, by the open board advocates and non-government
	organizations like some faith-based organizations.
	They have.
	And they're lying to the American people.
	They're not telling the American people the truth.
	They're not, you know, and so I was in the same spot he was.
	I was right there.
	And the only thing, so he's great, and I'm with him.
	The only thing I would say is I do blame the migrants themselves.
	And oh, when I say that, I get a lot of hate mail.
	I really do.
	Well, nobody forced them.
	Nobody forced them.
	That's right.
	They're intentionally and willfully working with cartels and fraudulently filing asylum
	claims to enter the United States illegally.
	They've got some culpability.
	And what kind of citizen...
	Can we expect you to be if the first thing you do is to break our laws?
	Right.
	So it's much like we're seeing across the city, right?
	If you think you can do something with impunity, I'm going to go with human nature and you're going to do just that.
	We're talking to the former Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.
	This is America First one-on-one.
	You won't even answer how many dead bodies, which is very well documented, at the border.
	Do you not care?
	Do you not have just an ounce of human compassion for what your open border policy, the type of human depredations it is causing?
	You just sit there looking with a blank look on your face.
	And you're saying it's a priority.
	If it's a priority, how did we let four to five million people in this country, in a little more than two years, four to five million people, The population of 20 to almost 30 states, and you're saying this is a priority?
	Mr. Secretary, you ought to resign.
	God bless Senator Johnson talking to Alejandro Mayorkas.
	I mean, just the absurdity that a senator, you know, the upper house of the most powerful nation in the world, and we don't even know whether it's five million or six million illegals in the last two years, that tells you the situation, the extent of the problem.
	I have to do with you what I always do before we finish our conversation.
	I have no idea how your colleagues, your former subordinates, put on the green uniform, put on the badge and the Sam Brown.
	Talk to us about the morale of the CBP in the last two years.
	Look, it continues to go downhill. And right now, especially with the shell game that's going on,
	I think you've talked about before, DHS Secretary Mayorkas has literally made a deal with the entire
	world. Hey, if you refrain from entering in between the ports of entry, we're going to allow
	you to get on the internet, fill out a couple of words on CBP One app, and we're going to let you
	come to a port of entry where we're going to continue to look the other way while you file
	fraudulent asylum claims, process and release in the United States.
	Now, he's just taken the morale of the Border Patrol and now caused the OFO, Office of Field Operation, the officers that work at ports, and now he's negatively impacting their morale.
	Let me just unpack this into English, what he just said, because this is how they lie.
	Oh, you know, complete, complete control of the border and the figures are diminished completely.
	Why?
	Because there's a DHS app that a legal in Mexico can download, pre-register for an illegal status as an asylee, come through the ports of entry, show their DHS application on the app and they get swept in, they get given a phone funded by you and asked where they want to go.
	That's how they dicker the figures.
	That's exactly right, and one thing I'll add to that, they're still filing false claims.
	But now they've called it a legal pathway and every employee in the Customs and Border Protection, Sebastian, all 63,000 of them, know it's a lie and it's a big shell game that DHS Secretary is forcing them to implement and execute every single day. And one last
	thing on that is the Border Patrol, they're still apprehending about 3,500 a day. That's still
	catastrophic invasion level numbers.
	Remember, Secretary Jeh Johnson, under then Vice President Biden said, a thousand a day was a bad
	day. I knew I was Chief of Border Patrol working for him at the time. Last question to our friend
	Mark Morgan.
	What does it take to fix it and how hard is it going to be to fix it?
	One thing to get started, I'm not trying to be flip, but re-elect President Trump.
	I mean I say this because here's why.
	He's the first president in modern history that actually, I said it before, talked to the board of trolls,
	understood the issue, understood that border security is synonymous with national
	security.
	And he didn't care about the errors he was going to take.
	He did what he needed to do, even though, remember, the first two years, the Republicans
	had the White House, the House, and the Senate. They failed to pass a single piece of
	meaningful legislation. And even with that, he still did what he needed to do from his power and make
	sure that we had the tools and authorities and the policies, as well as the resources we needed. And
	just a couple examples on the policy side, to save third countries with all three northern
	triangles, reinstate that.
	The remain in Mexico, reinstate that.
	Those are just two of the top lines we could talk another hour.
	That would be crucial to have the DNA testing of children and the so-called adults that are not being done.
	Right.
	You can stop that.
	Rapid DNA testing.
	Smugglers.
	We identified fake families and we saved countless kids from internet life and trafficking.
	They ended that program.
	The other thing on the infrastructure side, just build the wall.
	Finish the wall.
	Right.
	Last question.
	Can millions of people who came here under false pretenses be deported?
	Yes.
	Really?
	Yes.
	How hard would that be to actually even find them?
	Because HSI is small.
	Homeland Security Investigations is small.
	It is.
	It would be hard, but we could utilize a whole government approach.
	And, Sebastian, this is how we do it.
	One at a time.
	One at a time.
	I love it.
	A true patriot.
	God bless Mark Morgan.
	We need more of them.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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