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May 15, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden stokes fear with White supremacy terror threat

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	Okay, so Mother's Day is tomorrow, and this is the second day that's rolled around.
	There's two different days in the year that I question.
	There's Mother's Day and there's Father's Day.
	As a trans person, as a trans woman, which one do I celebrate?
	Father's Day rolled around.
	I don't feel like a father.
	Mother's Day is tomorrow.
	I feel like a mom, but who celebrates me?
	It's not a situation to pity me or anything.
	I just genuinely want to know, is there other people out there that you don't know which one you fall under?
	Are you a mom?
	Are you a dad?
	Where's parent's day?
	Why can't we just have a parent's day?
	Like you're a parent, that's worth celebrating.
	Why does it have to be one or the other?
	Jeff, where did you find that?
	Is that a parody?
	Is that a joke?
	A guy in a green wig talking like this that I'm a mother and this is Mother's Day?
	That is from a site where you get normal news clips from.
	That's what makes it on there now.
	Wow.
	That's a news clip.
	But we think it's real, right?
	That guy saying I'm a woman.
	I think so, yeah.
	I don't think it's a joke.
	Um, Eric, if you're trying to be a woman, shouldn't you at least... I mean, if I were pretending to be a woman, I'd like to try my voice a little higher.
	I mean, shouldn't he just, instead of talking like this...
	That's the thing, is that most of them don't even put in the effort.
	They throw on a green wig, they just Sam a woman, and that's all there is to it now, apparently.
	Oh, God.
	Blimey.
	This must be a Monday.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I felt bad this morning.
	I said to my wife, I said, you know, I'm an addict on social media.
	I fess up, you know, guilty as charged.
	I don't know how many hours I spend on Twitter, Instagram, and all that garbage.
	I didn't do one post yesterday.
	About Mother's Day.
	I just think it's a con.
	I think it's, you know, Hallmark cards and the chocolate and flowers sellers.
	I bet you did, Jeff, because you got little kids.
	Did the kids make, you know, Mother's Day gifts for your lovely bride?
	Yes, they did.
	And my daughter now is five.
	She was very nervous about it for the first time.
	She was very nervous.
	Nervous that she wasn't going to wake up in time to get her breakfast in bed and that she was going to find what she made her.
	It was the first time.
	And I bet your wife was delighted.
	Yes, she was.
	Good.
	Alright.
	That's different.
	You got little winkers, little kids.
	That's fine.
	But otherwise, it's all a con.
	But if you're a trans guy who talks like this because he's a woman, I don't know which one to celebrate because I was a man and now I'm a woman.
	Honest.
	You can tell by my voice.
	Alright guys, let's get a little bit more serious.
	Are you white?
	Do you like America?
	Do you think it's great?
	Well, does that mean you're a white supremacist?
	Because if you are, the current incumbent of the White House thinks you are the number one threat to America.
	Here he is at Howard University giving you the latest threat brief.
	To choose.
	To choose.
	Love over hate.
	Unity over disunion.
	Progress over retreat.
	To stand up against the poison of white supremacy, as I did in my inaugural address,
	to single out as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy.
	And I'm not saying this because I'm of the black HBCU.
	Thank you.
	Sigh.
	One of the greatest threats to America is white supremacy.
	Really?
	Not the 9,000 black Americans who are killed each year almost exclusively by their fellow black Americans?
	9,000?
	No, no, no.
	White supremacy?
	Where is that white supremacy?
	How about instead the fact that border agents arrested an Afghan national on a terror watch list?
	Last week in California how about the fact that we have no border on the south and that if you want to come into this country you can come straight on in and they have to wait until California until they what find you by accident no that's not the threat how about how about transgender terrorism It's funny, he didn't even mention one white supremacist attack.
	How about these transgender mass shootings in America?
	Sadly, we know Nashville because it's most recent in our mind.
	March 27th, three staff members, three children, nine-year-old children, We're murdered in one morning by 28-year-old Audrey Hale, who identified as a man.
	I'd say that's a real threat, but is it a one-off?
	No, let's go to last year, Colorado Springs.
	The mass shooting at the LGBTQ nightclub with five people killed and 25 injured.
	Who was the perpetrator?
	Was it a white supremacist?
	Was it a red MAGA hat wearing conservative who loves this nation?
	No.
	It was 22 year old Lee Aldridge.
	Charged with more than 300 criminal indictments.
	This individual is also transgender.
	Aldrich's clients have written in court documents that their client identifies as non-binary.
	Whoop-dee-doo!
	How about Denver, Colorado, at the STEM school, the Highlands Ranch south of Denver?
	Devin Erickson, 18 at the time, and 16-year-old Alec McKinney entered the school with multiple concealed weapons.
	and carried out their attack, killing one and injuring eight.
	Kinney was sentenced to life in prison.
	Erickson pleaded not guilty, but was also convicted and sentenced to life without parole.
	What's important about this case?
	Alec McKinney was born female but asked to be referred to as male as she was transitioning at the time of the shooting.
	Transitioning into what?
	A mass murderer?
	Hmm, funny!
	That didn't make it into the commencement speech by Biden.
	Or this one, which was so, so rapidly memory-holed, I think because it happened just outside the Capitol.
	Most people have no recollection of this.
	September 20th, 2018.
	Four people shot and killed at a pharmaceuticals distribution center 26 miles northeast of Baltimore.
	The suspect was Snotchia Mosley, 26 years old.
	A friend told the Washington Post that Mosley suffered from bipolar disorder and depression, had first come out as gay and then as a transgender male.
	Oh, isn't that interesting?
	But nobody talks about that fact pattern.
	Give me four, give me four similar white supremacist mass shootings of late.
	Oh, one woman, one woman gets tragically run over in Charlottesville by a person who was on pharmaceutical Drugs at the time for mental problems and we have to talk about that for years as a white supremacy epidemic as the person driving that vehicle was what?
	Was being attacked inside the vehicle?
	What about black supremacy?
	What about Waukesha?
	What about a man mowing down a parade with children, with a senior citizen dance troupe?
	Oh, can't talk about that, can we?
	No, because that would go counter to the narrative.
	Or Dallas, Texas, Micah Xavier Johnson carried out a mass shooting against police officers, killing five of them in 2016, July 7th.
	Don't talk about black supremacy.
	Don't talk about transgender mass shooters.
	Because you might be talking about reality in Biden's America.
	But if you're a conservative, uh-huh, you're the threat.
	We know why.
	Because they have no other way to maintain power.
	I am Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Yeah, I'll admit, I'll solve- I fell for the memory hole.
	Sorry?
	I fell for the memory hole.
	I completely forgot about Wakesha.
	That's what they want, of course.
	Right.
	Again, I'm glad he at least was found completely guilty.
	He got, like, literally over 700 years in prison was the sentence, I think.
	Good, because they wanted to try and get him off on an insanity plea.
	Then he decided to represent himself, because that always goes well.
	Uh, let us hear... Yeah, I have everything now.
	Coma.
	Cut 15.
	15?
	It's absolutely extraordinary and it is stunning that some people are missing.
	That you need to prove this.
	Who in the White House is intimidating these people?
	Do you know?
	I do know.
	We're saving that for a later time.
	God.
	She's on now.
	Do you want the mics on?
	Yes.
	Mics are on.
	Hi, how are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	How you doing?
	Good.
	Uh, we gotta talk Bidens.
	Can we do that?
	Of course.
	What else are you working on?
	Um, I just put up a story about how that whole Zuckerberg... Oh, we're getting wicked echoed.
	Do you have headphones?
	Uh, yeah, give me one sec.
	Everybody has to have headphones.
	I've done your show without headphones a lot.
	I know, but it's just much better because we get room tone.
	We get room sound otherwise.
	Let's have a good... What have you put up?
	What did you put up?
	Oh, the Zuckerberg thing.
	The Zuckerberg thing?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Got to talk about that.
	Got to talk about that.
	That's massively important.
	All right.
	We'll talk Coma and then we'll talk Zuckerberg.
	Love it.
	Exciting stuff.
	Angel Tree.
	Angel Tree, thank you.
	I'll use the audio.
	Play the audio again please, Alex.
	Stand by.
	And...
	It is a great camp for kids to go to.
	Everybody loves you, cares for you, and it's a great camp to learn about God.
	The best part of Angel Tree was, for me, would have to be the activities.
	I get to play in the gym.
	You get to go tubing in the lake.
	Weightboarding, water weenie.
	What I learned the most about Jesus was that even though your father has been incarcerated or in jail, you still have a father up in heaven.
	That's great.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	There's no way to make that a little bit stronger to work on that audio if I want to use it repeatedly.
	Like a little louder you mean?
	A little louder, a little clearer.
	One minute by the way.
	Yeah, I can work on it after the show.
	Yeah, great.
	Got a title in mind for the monologue?
	You're going to have a bit of work to do with the... Yeah, that ran.
	The Neil Ferguson one.
	For the monologue... White supremacy versus transgender killers.
	So good.
	Yeah, I knew when Biden announced his campaign talking about Charlottesville, I was like, yeah, they're not going to let this go for years.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Did you say come in with it?
	No.
	No.
	I will talk about it, but you don't come in with an audio.
	No.
	No.
	The angel tree at the top, yeah.
	At the top.
	I will, I will talk about it, but you don't come in with an audio.
	No.
	Only when I tell you.
	No hate speech.
	Just Happy Warriors on America First.
	I didn't even mention the phone number and people are daring to call in.
	How dare you?
	We love it!
	You're the best part of the show!
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	Um, children sometimes just, they say things that no adult could ever get in its veracity
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	They just like cut you to the quick with an observation and go, wow, is that Plato in a little kid's body?
	People wonder about the support that you give to the children who have a parent in prison, the Angel Tree Summer Camp, and what difference it makes.
	Well, let's listen to one of the children explain what you do for them.
	It is a great camp for kids to go to.
	Everybody loves you, cares for you, and it's a great camp.
	Learn about God.
	The best part of Angel Tree was, for me, would have to be the activities.
	I get to play in the gym.
	You get to go tubing in the lake, wade boarding, water weenie.
	What I learned the most about Jesus was that even though that your father has been incarcerated or in jail, you still have a father up in heaven.
	That's mind-blowing.
	Tubing wakeboarding in the lake, so much fun.
	And then I couldn't write copy like that.
	There's nobody that could write a commercial for a campaign like what that young boy said.
	He said, even though my father's incarcerated, I have a father in heaven.
	Is there more that you need to understand?
	It's one of the most beautiful things you can do.
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	All right, let's talk nasty stuff now.
	Let's talk corruption at the height of the US government all the way to the White House.
	Now the latest news is the whistleblowers are disappearing.
	Five whistleblowers have spoken to Congress behind closed doors about Biden corruption.
	And now Congress can't find them because apparently the White House is intimidating them.
	The chairman of the committee, James Comer, had this to say.
	Cut 15.
	It's absolutely extraordinary and it is stunning that some people are missing.
	That you need to prove this.
	Who in the White House is intimidating these people?
	Do you know?
	I do know.
	We're saving that for a later time.
	Great.
	Thanks, Chairman Comer.
	That's really useful.
	Let's talk about all of this and whether there's going to be any impact at all with the co-host of a podcast.
	It's not too bad.
	It's called The War Room, co-hosted by Stephen K. Bannon.
	We have the far, far better co-host with us today.
	It's Natalie Winters.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hi.
	Thank you so much for having me back.
	I was on the phone this morning for a long time arguing with another conservative broadcaster, he's a friend of mine, he's a colleague, who said, Seb, why did you so criticize Coma's press conference on Wednesday?
	And I said, because it was crap.
	He's reporting stuff that we knew two years ago, stuff that Miranda Devine and others have already uncovered, and there was no take-home.
	There was nothing.
	There was no smoking gun.
	You've been reporting on this for years.
	I don't want to get you in trouble with Congress, but are you impressed with the product so far of the committee?
	Not particularly, and I'll explain why.
	I think the work that they've done is really important when you look at these investigations through the lens Basically, that there's three parallel tracks going on here.
	The first one, which is what I'm sure many viewers of your show are familiar with, is
	the leaks from Hunter Biden's hard drive, not Russian disinformation.
	We obviously know that's substantive, real, concrete information and evidence of Hunter
	Biden's influence peddling across the globe.
	But the two other tracks, which I think is where this congressional investigation is
	really focusing, have to do with whistleblowers, if they can keep track of them, and subpoenaing
	financial records specifically from the Treasury Department.
	So I think why there's a bit of a, maybe a sense of lag, at least from those of us who are very, very engaged in the kind of the conservative media, I would call it the truthful media news cycle, is because basically With those two tracks, the whistleblowers and the financial records, they're sort of playing catch-up to what we have known based off of the hard drive.
	Again, these are records that have been in existence since 2014, 2015.
	Multiple presidential administrations have known they're around, so there's been a very massive cover-up.
	that they've had to really go up against but I think they could be doing a lot more.
	And there's also the issue of you know the magnitude of what you're talking about when
	you've got was it Nancy what is it Nancy Mace Eric is that the name South Carolina's?
	Yes.
	Nancy Mace at the press conference says we need to have a Biden in prison.
	And you're going, well, what for exactly?
	Because you didn't give us proof of a crime being committed.
	You gave us a lot of circumstantial evidence, and there's no smoking gun, that this policy was changed by me because my son got X amount of money.
	So people don't go to prison because of, you know, shady deals.
	They go to prison because of crimes.
	And secondly, there's also the scale.
	Natalie, you covered China like really nobody else.
	And we know, we know that Hunter Biden, when his dad's vice president, gets a 1.4 billion dollar deal from the National Bank of Communist China.
	And we're supposed to be impressed now with the press conference about One million dollars from some shady Romanian guy being divided amongst multiple Biden family members?
	It's like, sorry, 1.4 billion from Communist China and then I'm supposed to be interested in a million bucks divided amongst eight people?
	It's like orders of magnitude, isn't it?
	Indeed, and it definitely is a sense of deja vu.
	A lot of the emails that they were reporting were stories that we had at the National Polls back when I was working under Raheem Kassam reported well over two years ago.
	And I think in some cases they sort of missed the forest for the trees.
	Yes, I think the American people understand that it's very shady to have set up dozens of LLCs and that it's multiple Biden family members.
	But it just sort of seems like the actual accountability aspect, right?
	Seeing people, whether it's businesses, right?
	They kept using the term business associate, Biden associate.
	These are people like Rob Walker, Eric Schwerin, Devin Archer.
	And there seems to be subtle reporting in the news.
	Oh, maybe they're cooperating.
	Maybe they're testifying.
	These people should be forced to testify in front of the American people and tell them what exactly they were doing with Hunter Biden and either talk about it and reveal it full scale, or there needs to be other levers and points of leverage that they use against these people.
	Obviously, the Biden regime isn't going to cooperate.
	We've seen that coming out of the Treasury Department.
	But even like the China story, for example, part of it is the $1.5 billion in funding that they got from the Bank of China.
	But with that money, they funded a bunch of Chinese Communist Party and military-linked companies that were direct competitors with the United States.
	Stay there, stay there, stay there.
	We shall continue.
	Stay with us.
	Follow her at Natalie G. Winters.
	Follow me as well, Seb Gorka, Sebastian Gorka on all the usual places, Truth Social, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.
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	Back in a moment.
	Of the other staff and then we'll go straight to your Zuckerberg stories.
	Perfect.
	Alright, I'll start with my pillow.
	Yep.
	And then, I didn't do a merch yet.
	I'll do a merch here, and let's... Oh, can you find the t-shirt that is doing surprisingly well?
	The science denier?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	He said the no apologies one is doing well.
	Oh, hang on.
	Yeah, I gotta find it real quick.
	I think that's one that I designed as well.
	I think you'll find, I think you'll find.
	How's Mr. Bannon doing?
	He's doing very well.
	I, I actually just moved back to D.C.
	What?
	Um, like two weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	You don't, you haven't got like an itchy backside.
	You can't stay in one place long enough.
	What's going on?
	Well, I think our mics are live, but, but no, I'm good.
	We can kill the mics.
	Let's talk about it.
	So, let's talk about it.
	No, we were just talking about stuff that shouldn't be on radio.
	Or rumble.
	30 seconds.
	You said coming with a pillow here?
	Yeah, I'll do pillow and then a merch.
	Did you find the t-shirt?
	Yeah, it was a t-shirt and a sweatshirt.
	So here's the t-shirt, or here's the sweatshirt and the blah blah blah shirt.
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	We are back with Natalie G. Winters of Twitter of the War Room.
	Natalie, just finish that thread there.
	1.4 billion from the National Bank of Communist China to the Bidens.
	And then there's another interesting detail.
	Well, so much of the companies and businesses that this venture capital fund was supporting were basically Chinese Communist Party and Chinese military-run entities that were of course in direct competition with American companies, so that shows you America last to the T. But what's more interesting is that a lot of these businesses were confined and contained to the energy sector and sort of the alternative energy car sector, right?
	This like lithium ion battery, recharging, renewable battery driven cars.
	And I think that that's just a very interesting paradigm to view a lot of the policies that the Biden regime is currently pushing when it comes to green energy and these just bizarre transportation Yes, it's circumstantial, but I do think it shows you how a lot of the deals that Hunter Biden was pursuing have indirectly rendered Joe Biden basically unable to actually put America first, because there's just unfortunately so many conflicts of interest there.
	I hope oversight whether it's Treasury, FBI, DOJ, you name it,
	that they can actually get to the bottom of it.
	Because I think independent media has done the legwork, has done the heavy lifting to turn a lot of these stones.
	And I really hope that they can sort of buttress the narratives that we've already started on reporting
	and really finish the job and hopefully lock some people up.
	Yeah, I'm not holding my breath though, but it is very interesting
	that Biden said during the campaign, yeah, no more fossil fuels.
	And his Interior, his Environmental Secretary said, yes, EVs for everybody, electric vehicles, which would be really, really good for the main producer of finished rechargeable batteries in the world, which is, of course, Communist China.
	All right, near the top of your Twitter, Natalie G. Winters is the latest from the war room.
	Unbelievable.
	Controversial Zuckerberg group purchases storage center for, quote, voting machines and ballots for the 2024 election.
	So I guess the great RNC has not managed to stop them doing it again.
	Tell us the details.
	No, unfortunately, the Center for Tech and Civic Life, which people may recall, is that very, very, very shady group that received hundreds of millions of dollars from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative to basically overrule local election officials and basically manufacture turnout To be overwhelmingly in support of Democrats.
	This is the Zuckerberg election rigging group, basically.
	But because they were so, I would say rightly, not smeared, but attacked by conservative media outlets for what they were doing to really shape Americans' election outcomes in favor with what Mark Zuckerberg wanted, they had to rebrand.
	So they created another very innocuous sounding group, the Alliance for Election Excellence.
	And they partnered with a lot of different local and county level election offices.
	The story that you just had up had to do with a county in Illinois.
	So what this group is now doing, they're giving as part of this $80 million grant program, several $100,000 grants to election offices to buy them new facilities, new storage spaces to base that they're calling secure, but that are responsible for storing mail-in ballots And the actual election tabulating machine tabulation machines.
	And I think that just shows you right with what we've all been talking about private election funding and really privatizing election infrastructure in its entirety.
	It is a major conflict of interest to have a far left radical Zuckerberg funded group be basically buying off local election offices, not only by granting them free election space, And more office space, but specifically the space that they're using to store ballots and vote machines.
	It's exactly like the Comintern, like the communists and their front organizations.
	Just change the name and keep doing what you do to undermine America.
	We have reposted it at the top of my Twitter feed.
	Read it right now.
	Listen to this lady when she's on the war room.
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	Natalie G. Winters.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Gimme 14 and, uh... 16.
	We came in with 14.
	We saw the dorm reports finally out, right?
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	Uh, is it the full report?
	I think so.
	Apparently he claimed, yeah, there was no evidence of collusion at any point in time.
	Um... Alright, um... Gimme, um... Hang on, gimme... 9, 9... Oh, hang on.
	This is D.
	Okay.
	Solomon.
	Oh yeah, we have him now.
	Good.
	Hey guys, how are you?
	How we doing, buddy?
	Crazy.
	I literally got the report before anyone else, so we got it up really fast, but now I'm way behind.
	Have you skimmed through it?
	Oh yeah, it's damning.
	It is damning.
	Yeah, but nobody's going to get charged with anything, right?
	No!
	No, because they can't get anyone convicted, so why try, right?
	That's going to be the argument, which is lots of crimes, but if you can't get them convicted, what's the purpose?
	So, it's crazy.
	Just crazy.
	Alright, perfect timing, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yep, Justice is still briefing all the mainstream reporters and they kept me out of the briefing so I had a good time.
	What?
	Yeah, I couldn't get in the briefing.
	They didn't even invite me.
	But I got the report on my own.
	Are you kidding?
	No, frustrating.
	Wow.
	Frustrating.
	Yep.
	Yeah, it was crazy.
	But we're first and so it's really, it's really, it's crushing the site.
	It's awesome.
	Good.
	All right.
	I'm posting.
	I'm reposting your piece now.
	Thank you.
	Like that?
	That's good.
	How's that?
	I moved back a bit more maybe.
	That's right.
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	That's right. All right, 30 seconds.
	Sounds good.
	So before it's actually out, it's official?
	No, we got it.
	They're gonna release it later today, but we got it early.
	You got it.
	Got it.
	Just as exclusive.
	Okay, 25 seconds.
	Okay, 25 seconds.
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	Hey, John, I heard that you've got this breaking story.
	I've just posted it on Twitter.
	How was the Department of Justice press conference you went to?
	I couldn't go.
	They didn't invite me.
	When I tried to get in, they wouldn't let me in, so we went and got the report instead.
	I know.
	Isn't that fun?
	So you get the report before anybody else.
	Probably that's why they don't like you, because you're a real journalist, John.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, listen, the most important thing is what's in the report, not what happened between us.
	It is a damning assessment of what went on at the Justice Department and the FBI.
	Most of the false stories that we were given in 15, 16, 17, I'm sorry, 16, 17, and 18, completely blown away by John Durham.
	He said there wasn't a iota of evidence, a shred of evidence, a shred of intelligence anywhere in the files of the FBI and the intelligence community of Russia collusion when they opened up on Donald Trump.
	Just let that sink in.
	Not a shred, not an ounce, nothing.
	Yet they opened up on a sitting presidential candidate four months before election day.
	He went on to say that the FBI blew away most of its procedures, that the FBI didn't show any of the necessary distrust for allegations that were funded and coming from Hillary Clinton.
	And yes, they knew it was coming from Hillary Clinton.
	It is a 300-page real slam dunk in terms of affirming everything that you and I and others have been talking about.
	Debunking what the news media and also what the FBI has told us over and over again.
	Pete Strzok and James Comey do not look good in this report.
	They had no basis for opening this investigation.
	They did it anyways.
	So how many people are going to get charged with crimes and go to prison, John?
	I've got to ask you.
	Yeah, none.
	None.
	The one person who obviously pled guilty, that's it.
	Obviously, John Durham tried to bring a couple of prosecutions.
	The juries in D.C., which is 86-90%, Democrats said he wouldn't convict, and so I think John Durham did the right thing, which is if you can't legitimately secure a conviction, you're not supposed to bring an indictment.
	That's part of the rules.
	He followed the rules, and so instead, he used the power of shame and transparency, and today, in succinct but really sweeping fashion. It's succinct but it captures all of the
	abuses so eloquently.
	300 pages, he lays out what he found. It's a real service to the American public
	for all of us to be able to finally read what happened.
	Alright, so the one, there's so many things to discuss at this point,
	but here's one that I'm very curious about.
	And I know it's fresh and we've just got it in our hands.
	I've literally just put it on my Facebook and my Twitter right now.
	I'll put it on the Truth Social and nobody's watching and John's on camera.
	We have this former DOJ lawyer who's working for the Hillary campaign.
	What's his name?
	Sussman.
	And he calls his buddy at DOJ, who's the chief counsel, and he says, I've got this information about Trump and Russia, can I share it with you?
	And I'm not working for any client, honest, which of course is a lie, which gets him charged with a lie, but now he's fine and in good standing again.
	And the thing that people miss is, He goes into the DOJ with this made-up evidence that the Trump Organization was doing business with the Russian bank and it's fake.
	But even if it were real, it's not illegal for an American company to have a business tie with a Russian company.
	This is before the Ukrainian war.
	It's perfectly okay.
	But John, the FBI still opened an investigation.
	How does that happen?
	And does Durham say that there's a certain person responsible?
	I'm still reading, because we just got it before we came on, so I literally only got the first few words.
	We're going to have to dig in for some time.
	What's very clear is John Durham backs up his statement, which by the way, the Inspector General of the Justice Department always disagreed with.
	The Inspector General of the Justice Department, Michael Horowitz, who by the way exposed a lot of the wrongdoing, he said he felt there was an adequate predicate to at least open up on the Trump campaign.
	John Durham makes abundantly clear today that that is not the case.
	There wasn't an iota of evidence, a shred of evidence, anything that was in the intelligence of the FBI that would actually show there was Russia collusion, except for Hillary Clinton's bought-and-paid-for dossier, right, the Steele dossier, which he goes on to say couldn't be verified in any way.
	So, a really, really, very serious picture of the FBI allowing politics to be substituted for evidence, to allow election considerations, to supplant legal considerations.
	It is a really ugly portrait of the FBI during the Comey, McCabe, and Strzok era of the FBI, and John Durham doesn't mix words.
	He gets right to it.
	Alright, I have just posted it on Truth Social as well, so everybody can read John's analysis.
	You are a realist, you live in the real world.
	Consequences for this report's publication in the next few months?
	John, your expectations?
	Well, first up, Jim Jordan just said he's going to call John Durham to testify next week.
	That's going to be a huge moment because there'll be things that are not in the report that can be drawn out.
	There can be assessments that Republicans will ask that maybe the Justice Department didn't allow in this report.
	What is the real consequences going to come in the next few months on the following things?
	The FBI wants to renew Section 702 warrantless surveillance capabilities, something that's been in the Patriot Act and the FISA law ad nauseum.
	They're not going to get it in its current state.
	There is a well, enormous resistance to just rubber stamping surveillance.
	This will add to that resistance to say the FBI doesn't deserve this much power without new checks and balances.
	When you see the level of abuse that went here, the level of putting their thumb on the scale of an election without a basis or evidence, that's going to be the first consequence.
	The second one is, it's entirely possible that Congress could go do things like defund any pensions for Andy McCabe, who got his pension restored even though he was fired by the Justice Department, defund entire bureaus, agencies, employees, and divisions that potentially abused the law here, abused their power.
	And so I think the consequence is going to come in the power of the purse as opposed to the power of prison.
	Wow.
	That's a start.
	That's something.
	It's on my Twitter.
	It's on my Facebook.
	It's on my Truth Social.
	Read John's exclusive right now.
	Follow him at jsolomonreports and bookmark justthenews.com.
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	Okay.
	That'd be pretty great.
	Yeah, topical.
	Hey, I know you're crazy busy, but we do these one-on-ones where we could go deep dive tomorrow on the report.
	It would be 2 to 2.40.
	Could you do that maybe?
	Alright, God bless.
	It would be 2 to 240. Could you do that maybe?
	Yeah, we'll try to make it happen.
	All right, God bless. Thanks.
	What do you say?
	He said he'll know in the morning because he's got another big thing he's dropping.
	About a whistleblower.
	Alright, so you want me to wait then to book someone, or?
	Yeah, wait.
	Wait to book.
	Pick somebody as a backup.
	Alright, I asked Lee Smith for the radio tomorrow to talk about it.
	He hasn't gotten back.
	But maybe that could be a backup.
	Alright, as soon as- Oh yeah, Lee can do tomorrow at 3.20, so.
	Alright, what are you eating?
	My lunch at 4 o'clock.
	What is it?
	Chipotle.
	Oh, nice.
	There's one nearby.
	Titles.
	Has he ever come in studio?
	Solomon?
	Yeah, back when you used to work at the Hill all the time.
	That's right.
	What do you need, Lendrum?
	Winters, Solomon, and the Professor.
	winters. Who's impressed with comers Biden in
	it.
	I'm going to be doing a lot of that. So, I'll see you guys next time. Bye.
	Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Who wrote that liner?
	That's actually really very funny.
	I didn't write it.
	Who wrote the tote bag line?
	Does anybody remember?
	Jeff?
	Eric?
	Who wrote that?
	I'm pretty sure that was Leroy.
	I bet that was Leroy.
	Leroy, you are missed.
	Especially the opener for the show.
	Nicely done.
	Trouble is, these dudes do not look like ladies.
	OK, let's talk about Mother's Day.
	I've been apparently too harsh.
	We've got multiple callers who want to argue with me.
	Let's go to Klaus in California.
	Hey, happy Meister Monday, Dr. G. Meister Monday, OK.
	Tell me what I've done wrong, Klaus.
	Well, you know, my wife.
	is the mother of our new two and a half month old baby girl.
	God bless.
	And to see the transformation of her going from not just wife, but to motherhood, nobody should take for granted, especially us fathered men, because especially now because of the war, On motherhood, I'm... I don't take... No, no, no, no, Klaus.
	I don't take mothers for granted.
	We should treat them that way every single day.
	My issue is Mother's Day is a commercialized con.
	I'm not saying we don't, you know, praise mothers, but we should be doing it every single day, Klaus.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Good.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Let's continue.
	Judy, Brooklyn, line one.
	Hey, we're nitpicking here.
	OK, guess what?
	Guess what?
	Have you got something to tell me, Judy?
	I got a few things to tell you.
	Number one, I guess I'm a peaceful white supremacist.
	I also am a threat to democracy, apparently, because I'm on Team Trump.
	And I also am a happy womb-carrying mother.
	You mean you're a real woman?
	I'm a real woman that has a womb.
	Unlike you.
	I'm very glad I don't have a womb, because I'm a man.
	If I had a womb, there'd be problems.
	I know, but you know something?
	I am so angry at so many things.
	I gotta voice my opinion.
	Did you hear what's going on in New York with this Mayor Adams?
	And he's like overloaded.
	He invites everyone in.
	Now he's sending illegals, guess what, to Newburgh.
	And guess what they did in Newburgh?
	They threw out all the veterans in the hotel.
	Yes.
	They said they have to make room for illegals.
	I am so angry at this.
	I can't even tell you.
	I can't even tell you.
	I want you to know, you know something?
	I'll tell you something else.
	You know George Santos?
	Yeah.
	I told you I love him.
	I still love him, and I'll tell you why.
	He is teaching these Democrats a lesson.
	He has role models, okay?
	You want to call him a liar?
	Look at the guy that is role modeling for him, and that's Biden and the thing, you know?
	Bingo.
	At least he's fighting.
	But yes, thank you for telling us, reminding us about that story.
	There's a charity That houses homeless vets and now they're being kicked out in favor of illegals.
	It's an utter bloody outrage.
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	Also, can you insert into the audio, there's one segment, I think it's the C segment.
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	The Durham report is out.
	Well, John Solomon has it.
	Nobody else does.
	Go and read the article I've posted on all my social media sites.
	Twitter, Facebook, you name it.
	He got a scoop even though DOJ refused.
	He refused to invite him to the press conference today.
	He got a copy of it because, hey, he's John Solomon.
	As soon as we have it, we shall be supplying you with our summary.
	In the meantime, let's talk about the deep state, the swamp creatures on our side.
	Oh my gosh, are they revealing themselves for who they are.
	They are both Chris's.
	Chris, what is it about being a Chris?
	A Chris Sununu and a Chris Christie?
	Do you think that's it, Jeff?
	It's the first name that's kind of like the link here?
	No, it's called being jealous Republicans.
	I think you're right.
	The green-eyed lady, as the Bard, as William Shakespeare called them.
	Chris Sununu and Chris Christie.
	Let's start with the guy who definitely needs to talk to Dr. Ashley Lucas, Chris Christie, about the CNN town hall with my former boss last week.
	Cut 10, play cut!
	CNN went in the tank to get Trump on there.
	They allowed him to negotiate who was going to be in that audience.
	And those were all Trump supporters.
	I don't care how they introduced them.
	I know a lot of those people in that audience.
	I spent a lot of time in New Hampshire eight years ago, and a lot of those are the same faces that I saw eight years ago.
	You pay no attention to the audience reaction.
	Those were all people who, in the main, 80% or so were Trump supporters.
	So that was a negotiation deal that Trump did with CNN, and I think CNN was wrong for doing it.
	Are these people just stupid? It's called a Republican town hall.
	Do they have the same talking points?
	Chris Zanun who said the same thing.
	He knows everybody in the audience.
	Oh really Chris? Cut 11.
	I can understand as the camera panned through that audience, I knew pretty much everybody in that audience.
	They're all Trump supporters, right?
	So the audience was absolutely filled with Trump supporters.
	So I wasn't surprised to hear the support.
	But when you're talking about a serious issue like that, and laughter and mocking and all that, it's completely inappropriate, without a doubt.
	And it doesn't shine a positive light on New Hampshire.
	But again, understand what the audience makeup was.
	It's a Republican town hall and you're the governor of that state.
	Nothing like trashing the people, the citizens of the state you govern.
	Maybe my next guest, who needs a monologue when you can get great guests on your show?
	Maybe this person can help explain it.
	My former Salem colleague, that leaves me a little sad.
	A man who, I don't know, could be a president one day.
	Let's welcome the one and only, the sage from South Central, Larry Elder.
	It's been a while.
	Dr. G, what's up?
	It's been a minute, hasn't it?
	It has been.
	All right.
	We have so much to discuss.
	We'll talk about your take on reparations.
	We'll talk about Biden's announcement about white supremacy at Howard University.
	But first things first, why are there so many jealous, nasty Republicans out there like Christian Sununu?
	What's their problem, Larry?
	Help me out.
	Well, you know, Trump has gone against the media, of course, academia, Hollywood.
	and also a lot of people in his own party.
	They don't like him.
	He's a disruptor.
	He doesn't like the way that he mocked Jeb Bush.
	Doesn't like the way he eliminated all these other Republicans.
	They still think of him as uncouth, as crass.
	That's how they perceive the guy.
	Nevermind his policies that were extraordinary.
	Great economy, borders more secure than any time in our history.
	Got all the judges that I would assume people like Chris Christie want.
	So what's the problem?
	was not to like.
	It's like that thing that you've said many a time and that I've stolen and credited to you.
	The two golfers talking about the guy who's about to swing off at the first tee and they say,
	look at his position, look at his stance, look at the way his hip moves.
	And the other one says, I don't care.
	Where does the ball land?
	That's the question!
	Where does the ball land?
	We'll talk to you about your plans for how you're going to swing that golf ball into the greens.
	But first things first, we played it at the top of the last hour.
	I'm not going to play it again.
	But this idea that you're at a black historic college and you say white supremacy is the biggest threat to America as the black face of white supremacy according to the LA Times.
	Could you help us out here, Larry?
	Is this true?
	It's just incredible, insulting, pandering, all designed to make black people feel like they're victims.
	So they go in there like lemmings and pull that lever.
	90-95% for the Democratic Party.
	Let's look at some numbers.
	21,000 homicides.
	Half of them are black victims.
	Almost all of those black victims are killed by other black people.
	As a percentage of the population, White people are underrepresented when it comes to murder.
	When it comes to serial killers, they are underrepresented.
	When it comes to mass shooters, they are underrepresented.
	When it comes to interracial black-white homicides, 500, about 750 per year in the last few years, Sebastian.
	500 white people have been killed by blacks, even though blacks are just 13% of the population.
	And 250 blacks have been killed by whites, even though they're 60 percent of the population.
	Then when it comes to interracial, violent, non-homicide crime, I'm talking about attempted
	murder, manslaughter, rape, aggravated assault, there are roughly 400,000 black, white, interracial,
	non-homicide, violent acts every year.
	Eighty-five percent of them black per white victim, only 50 percent the other way around.
	So it's just horse bleak.
	And if you look at the numbers of people that are killed in the year 2022, according to the ADL, who were killed by white supremacists, white extremists as they defined it, 25.
	And five of them were not white.
	So of the white supremacists, deaths caused by white supremacists last year in 2022, there were 20, 20.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I knew he'd have the stats.
	He doesn't need a cue card.
	He doesn't need little cheat sheets like Biden.
	He just knows they're on the top of his head.
	All right, two more questions.
	We have a cut here from somebody called Larry Elder on Fox.
	I'm not going to play the cut because I've got you live.
	Your response to the billions of dollars they want to give away in reparations in California, in a state which, by the way, never had any legal slaves.
	Your response.
	That's kind of a problem, isn't it?
	California was invented in 1850 as a free state.
	So here's how they get around it.
	They argue, well, it's not about slavery.
	It's about grievances like redlining, mass incarceration, over-policing, whatever the hell those things are.
	And even if you could argue that every single black person had been victimized by all that, what does it have to do with the so-called wealth gap, which is what the reparations panel is all about?
	Chinese Americans in California were treated abysmally.
	Japanese Americans could not buy farmland, Sebastian.
	But if you look at the average net household income for a Japanese American, net average household income for a Chinese American, they are higher than the average income for white Americans.
	Why?
	Hard work, believing in strong families, and embracing education.
	That's the key.
	And instead of telling black people that they're victims, we ought to be talking about the epidemic of fatherlessness, and unfortunately, the epidemic of underperforming government schools, where 75% of black boys in California cannot read at grade level.
	Well, I know about your affection for your former boss.
	I'm at Larry Elder, LarryElder.com.
	Let's switch to how you're gonna solve it all.
	Tell us about why you're running for the presidency, Larry.
	Well, I know about your affection for your former boss.
	It's an affection that I share, but here's my concern.
	There is something called Trump derangement syndrome, as you well know.
	And I asked all of your viewers and listeners, have you lost friends because of your support for Donald Trump?
	Have you lost co-workers because of your support for Donald Trump?
	Are you no longer talking to relatives because of your support for Donald Trump?
	If the answer to those series of questions is yes, yes, and yes, and I think for most of us the answer is yes, I don't know what to do about Trump derangement syndrome.
	Maybe someday they'll develop a vaccine, but until then, Houston, we've got a problem.
	And if you like the America First agenda, you like what Donald Trump did on the economy, on borders, on taxes, on regulations, on judges, on foreign policy, you want somebody Who can appeal to at least enough swing voters in these swing states so that we can win in November 2024.
	And it's about winning.
	And I'm that guy.
	I've got the knowledge.
	I've got the sense of humor.
	I've got the relatability.
	And I think maybe you can pull the lever for Larry Elder.
	And enough swing voters will do that so we win in November 2024.
	And the American First agenda will still be pursued.
	I know we have LarryElder.com.
	We've mentioned it.
	Is there another site people should check out for your candidacy?
	Yes.
	Elder4President.com.
	Elder4President.com.
	There's one more thing too, Sebastian.
	Yeah, we got 20 seconds.
	Quickly.
	If Trump gets reelected, he gets one term.
	If I get elected, I get two terms.
	Yeah, that's my argument for why you vote for him, because he doesn't need to get re-elected so he can bring a flamethrower to the corruption in the swamp.
	But elderforpresident.com, check it out right now.
	Thank you for coming on the show.
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	🎵 Cut three and then just play me the first part of cut four
	so I can remember what it is.
	If these were legitimate payment and those are legitimate businesses that your family created, then I would assume you have invoices.
	I would assume that you would have books and business models and things like that to tell us what the businesses actually were.
	And I think that's something if I, instead of just attacking us for having the audacity to investigate this and be as transparent as we can possibly be with the media, then maybe he should answer questions as to what exactly his family did.
	Right, play me cut 5 and cut 6.
	That's what you wanted, right?
	Bad one, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Do you have numbers?
	I mean, how many have been released without a mandated court date?
	So we released a number because of the surge that we experienced before Title 42 came to an end.
	Now, with the 50% drop in the number of encounters at our southern border, we are executing our consequence regime exactly as planned.
	And here's six.
	How do you think things are going at the border, sir?
	Much better than you all expected.
	Do you have any plans to visit the border?
	Not in the near term, no.
	Just be disruptive, not anything else.
	Mic's off, or do you want them on?
	Mic's off.
	Mic's off.
	I'm going to be doing a lot of work on the next couple of weeks.
	A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Yeah, what a great liner for this segment.
	We're going to talk about what's happening at the border with somebody who has gone down to the border.
	Is there covering it?
	And I'm a legal immigrant to the United States.
	Shouldn't that be how people come to the United States?
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	He is a colleague of mine at Newsmax.
	Chuck Holton, welcome back to America First.
	Glad to be here, Sebastian.
	All right, I'm going to play a cut.
	You heard it in the break.
	I want all of our millions of listeners to hear it as well.
	This is Alejandro Mayorkas, who's lying on national television about what's happening where you are.
	Cut five.
	Do you have numbers?
	I mean, how many have been released without a mandated court date?
	So we released a number because of the surge that we experienced before Title 42 came to an end.
	Now, with the 50% drop in the number of encounters at our southern border, we are executing our consequence regime exactly as planned.
	Uh, yeah, exactly as planned.
	I'm a bit confused, Chuck, because you and others are sending us footage of a literal invasion, and then the Secretary of Homeland Security is saying, oh, no, no, no, no, it's half of what it was.
	It's 50% down.
	How is that possible?
	Yeah, this is the perfect example of how to lie with statistics, Sebastian.
	What he's saying is that the number of illegal encounters between the ports of entry is down by 50 percent.
	And the reason for that is because they have started pre-clearing those illegals inside Mexico, all the way down into Colombia and Guatemala.
	And so what they do is they allow them to turn themselves in before they get to the border.
	And then the U.S.
	government, the U.S.
	Department of Homeland Security coordinates with the Mexican government, with the Colombian government
	to transport these people at American taxpayer expense into the heartland of America, either by flying or by bus,
	through the legal ports of entry.
	And so it's not that the number of people coming has gone down, it's that the number of people
	that have the need to come illegally by jumping the fence has gone down
	because they've started pre-legalizing them, which is actually, you know, there are many challenges.
	challenges to this already in court because this is not that the president is not supposed to be
	able to make an executive level decision to give blanket amnesty, which is essentially what he's
	doing to the people that are coming to this country with the intention of entering illegally.
	They're just making it so that they don't need to enter illegally at a port of, I mean,
	between the ports of entry because they're allowing them to come to a center in Mexico,
	get on a bus and then be bused into the United States. And incidentally, what happens then
	is that they are assigned a city. They don't get to choose.
	They are assigned a city somewhere in America, and then they are transported to that city. We've
	seen Denver. We've seen Chicago.
	We've seen New York. We've seen Florida. We've seen Boston.
	All of that.
	All over the United States, people are being bused in and flown in from as far away as Colombia, and that means that the Border Patrol doesn't have to catch them so much because they're going down.
	One other thing about that, Sebastian, when the migrants see this new rule, or the old rule, I guess it's gone back into effect, Title VIII, that says that they can be immediately thrown out if they get caught between ports of entry with supposedly you can't come back within five years.
	All they do is they throw away their documents, they throw away their passport, they say they're Mexican, and they get sent back into Mexico.
	They go down the fence 100 yards, come back in at another hole and try it again.
	We talked to people who tried four, five, six times, and they're going to keep trying until they become one of those gotaways that is able to get into the United States and just live here as long as they want.
	Follow this man at Ranger Holton right now.
	It continues.
	It's not just the Department of Homeland Security.
	It's also the Democrat Party.
	This is Congresswoman Katie Porter, who has a very strange take on Title 42 and the regime we put in place in the Trump administration.
	Cut eight.
	We know that they did not have the staffing there, so they're sending National Guard members to the border.
	These folks are not necessarily trained or equipped to deal with the challenges that migrants are facing and with processing.
	And so I think that we need to make sure that the chaos that Title 42 created by closing our borders entirely and breaking our legal obligations under international law to process people seeking asylum doesn't turn into a different kind of chaos with a flood of folks.
	Three points in that 30-second cut.
	Number one, National Guard.
	They're so bad.
	They're idiots.
	They don't know about anything.
	Number two, Title 42 is chaos.
	And number three, closing the border is bad.
	How does that gel with the things you've actually seen during your coverage, Chuck?
	Well, if Title 42 resulted in so much chaos, then the people wouldn't have been rushing to the border before it was ending to try to get through.
	The problem is Title 42 made it possible for us to kick people out for a very simple reason,
	because we have a health emergency in the United States and we're not going to go through
	all the rigmarole, we're just going to kick you out.
	Title 8 makes it more difficult perhaps to come in legally, which just means that more
	people are going to become gotaways.
	They're going to come in and we're not even going to know that they're here.
	We're not going to have any way to track them.
	That is not better.
	Now, the last part of the, actually the first point she made, it makes the least sense of
	She might as well be speaking Armenian at this point, because she's just sort of flapping her gums, and it's not really making any sense.
	The fact that these National Guardsmen are not trained to stop migration, or to process these people, of course they're not.
	Of course they're not.
	Hello, Captain Obvious.
	We shouldn't have to use National Guardsmen to process people into the United States.
	The National Guard is not meant to be the welcome wagon.
	And incidentally, neither is the Border Patrol.
	Neither is ICE.
	Neither are the police along the border.
	But that's what they're being forced to do under this administration.
	Yeah, I don't think I'd give her the rank of captain.
	I don't even think I'd give her corporal.
	I think it's PFC obvious.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Keep doing what you do.
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	you you
	you You know, it's one thing if you came across, you requested asylum, and you respected our country.
	But I'm sitting out here doing this interview.
	We're doing this live on Real America's Voice News.
	And all I'm doing is smelling weed.
	You got people sitting over here.
	I just came walking down this sidewalk.
	I got all these young guys, fighting-age men, came across, pretending to request asylum, sitting here smoking weed, doing drugs.
	Just no regard for our laws, for our country.
	But it's not a surprise.
	I don't even fault them.
	We invited them in.
	The Democrats invited them in.
	Our cities are being overrun.
	This is what it looks like?
	Yeah, that's Ben Burquham.
	He was on the show last week on... Wow.
	That's amazing.
	Men of military age just crossed the border and they're just hanging out there smoking weed.
	How do they have money to do that?
	And I guess if you've broken the law to come in here, you don't really care about anything else, right?
	Incredible.
	Oh, but it's fine with Biden.
	Here's Joe Biden on his bicycle again.
	I hope he didn't fall down.
	Being asked about, how's the border going?
	Cut, six.
	How do you think things are going at the border, sir?
	Much better than you all expected.
	Do you have any plans to visit the border?
	Pardon me?
	Do you have any plans to visit the border?
	Not in the near term, no.
	No, just be disruptive, not anything else.
	Disruptive to what?
	The millions flowing through the border?
	You don't want to disrupt that?
	That laugh, I'm sorry, I might be biased.
	Alex, isn't that laugh creepy?
	That Biden laugh?
	Very creepy, yes sir.
	Okay, it's not just me.
	Play that again Eric, because that is like, just so creepy!
	How do you think things are going at the border, sir?
	Much better than you all expected.
	Do you have any plans to visit the border?
	Not in the near term, no.
	No, just be disruptive, not anything else.
	Jeff, why is he laughing?
	I think he's happy that he got the line out without screwing it up, because he's really been having troubles with that lately.
	I think you might have nailed it.
	All right.
	We were kind of interrupted there in the middle there with our special guest, Larry Elder.
	Let's go back to The Two Chrises.
	That would be a fun show.
	Sir Nunu and Christie, wouldn't it?
	Oh my gosh.
	CNN should have that show, shouldn't they, Jeff?
	The Two Chrises?
	I was just thinking about that.
	It could be like the Don Lemon and the Fredo used to always do the nine minute crossover all the time.
	That would be perfect.
	Rhino.
	What would be the prop?
	I mean, if you had the giant cotton bud for the Fredo show, what would Christie's prop be?
	A vending machine.
	A vending machine!
	What's your favorite product for the vending machine?
	Okay, let's go back to Sununu, who He's just... He was a milquetoast anti-Trumper who got given the governorship by his dad and now he's just gone totally DTS.
	It's total Trump Disarrangement Syndrome.
	Cut 12, Chris Sununu.
	Look, you don't debate Donald Trump on policy.
	The guy has massive insecurities.
	He's a loser, and he lost many times.
	He lost races in New Hampshire, not just for himself, but for my fellow candidates.
	He really got behind really bad candidates that were extreme, that obviously couldn't win in November.
	If you can't win in November, then we shouldn't even be in the discussion, and he can't win.
	So you think the best argument is he's a loser?
	Yes.
	So, okay, let me get this right, Chris.
	The man who ran for president, who'd never run for any office before, won the presidency the first time he ran.
	That's the loser.
	The guy who came in and Instead of taking Obama's line that, you know, ISIS, it's just a, quote, generational threat we'll have to live with, he came in and said, no, no, no, unleash Bragg, unleash Delta, unleash everybody, a damn neck, the SEALs, Coronado, within five months the caliphate of ISIS is gone.
	That guy's the loser?
	Chrissy?
	The guy who created the lowest unemployment for minorities in America since the 60s?
	I mean, that guy is the loser.
	But he continues because he gets so excited about what?
	Not making America great again, but about prosecuting the 45th president.
	Cut 13.
	So many other candidates to get in the race.
	There's so many more parts of the discussion.
	We haven't had a single debate yet.
	In fact, we won't even have a debate for the next two or three months.
	And then they'll have maybe a dozen debates.
	We'll go to Iowa and New Hampshire and all of this politics is yet to play out.
	There'll be more indictments on his side and more distractions and everything.
	What's going on, Jeff?
	Do you have any idea why Sununu, who's been a... Sununu was a coward.
	A friend of mine was running in New Hampshire, and I can tell you, Chris Sununu is a stinking coward.
	Why is he coming out now publicly to attack a president?
	See, to me, he's almost playing the role... I don't think he's gonna run, because he would have announced by now.
	Right.
	And maybe Christie's doing the same thing.
	Maybe it's these guys that can really go and attack Trump.
	They think it's things that are gonna work, but they won't hurt them if it fails, because they're not running.
	But why are they doing it?
	Do you think DeSantis is asking them to do it?
	I don't know.
	I mean, who knows?
	I mean, it's the same donors.
	It's this whole donor class, probably.
	There's somebody that wants them to do it, and that's why they're doing that.
	Because they're the ones that are attacking him the hardest, the ones that aren't running.
	Right.
	I think this is the key thing.
	They're not running, and they're attacking him the hardest.
	Somebody's paying them or asking them to do that.
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	It's not a philosophical question, it's a serious one.
	Can you corrupt any organization?
	When I was in the White House, I used to love the Secret Service guys and gals.
	I mean, I dealt mostly with, unless I was traveling with the President, I dealt with the uniformed officers.
	The guys who are on post at the entrance of the West Wing, at Rose Garden.
	And I loved working with them.
	They all knew who I was.
	Captain Mark, you were great, and all your team.
	But I guess you can corrupt any organization.
	New York Post's Stephen Nelson.
	The Secret Service is refusing to hand over emails that identify visitors to President Biden's homes in Delaware.
	Homes.
	Did you catch that?
	Homes.
	Telling the Post in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, it can't legally do so.
	Why?
	What are you hiding?
	Here's the response.
	Please be advised that emails reflecting visits to President Biden's residences Are not agency records subject to FOIA?
	Last year, the Secret Service claimed that no records were locatable, showing logs of Biden's Delaware visitors.
	In late September, the Secret Service denied a FOIA appeal, telling the Post no responsive records were found after an additional search.
	The latest response is different, in that it doesn't deny the existence of records.
	Instead, they cannot be released.
	So last year, no records, can't find them.
	Who knows who visited?
	Ukrainians?
	Chinese?
	Who knows?
	This year the response is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We got the records, but you're not going to get them.
	What is the point of having a Freedom of Information Act if there is no freedom of information?
	What would you be hiding, Secret Service?
	Oh, one last thing.
	The Secret Service, since 9-11, has been part of the Department of Homeland Security.
	I guess that's all you need to know. Mr. Mayorka has told them,
	don't give anything away. All right, let's talk about things that are
	important to you. The state of the economy, another 18 months of this
	insanity. We get our advice, our strategic sense from those amazing people at Key City Capital. Let's talk
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	America First. Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me today.
	All right, let me read to you a piece from Ben Q. We like Ben.
	He's with Red State, and I'll get your response.
	Odds of economic recession highest in 40 years, according to a Fed.
	The likelihood that the United States will experience an economic recession at some point over the next year has risen to a 40-year high, according to a model created by the New York Federal Reserve.
	It now stands at 68.2%, the highest level since 1982.
	The model relies on analyzing the difference between the yields of 3-month and 10-year U.S.
	Treasury bonds.
	In recent months, projections have also indicated a slowdown in real GDP growth and a weakening of the labor market within the United States.
	It sounds to me, Stephen, that it's pretty inevitable.
	If the New York Fed says it's happening at a likelihood of almost 70%, we need to get ready, don't we?
	I think it's a very real possibility, if not a foregone conclusion, that some level of recession we'll see by the close of this year, start of next.
	What does that mean for the average American?
	If you're trying to hedge your bets, if you realize the volatility of the stock market, what should people be looking at?
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	Let me continue the analysis.
	It isn't just a recession, it's also inflation.
	We could get to a stagflation point.
	This article states, a widely followed measure of inflation has risen through the pace of the annual increase The Consumer Price Index, which measures a broad swath of goods and services, has increased 0.4% for the month in line with the Dow Jones Estimate, according to a Labor Department report.
	Inflation has been persistent despite the Federal Reserve's efforts to bring down prices.
	Why is it, Stephen, that so many people say this is when you have to look even harder at real estate?
	Yeah, well, real estate responds positively with inflation.
	as inflation interacts with an economy, the value of real estate goes up.
	It actually increases at the same rate or in some economies even faster.
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	And unfortunately with the policies that we see in Washington right now
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	Uh, Jeff, you need to find out for me if anybody made a recording.
	Chappelle did this stand-up in San Francisco and, uh, and he trashed the Democrats who were ruining that city.
	And then somebody, of course, stood up and walked out and called him a trans-hater.
	But we need some surreptitious recording, don't we, Jeff?
	I've been looking.
	Of course he's been looking.
	I need to see what Chappelle said about San Francisco.
	All right, let's talk about the big news at Twitter HQ.
	The new CEO, this lady from, what is it, CBS?
	No, NBC is coming in to take over.
	Elon had an interview or chat with her not too long ago.
	Let's play a little bit of it.
	So you've got a massive platform.
	You have a vision.
	Yeah.
	is a spectrum of just daily, open-sourced conversation.
	And they can conduct their lives, their business, their commerce, whatever they can do on your platform.
	That's a pretty big vision.
	But in the middle should be advertising opportunity.
	That sounds like a great opportunity.
	I can talk about my brand, I can get my customers to communicate, and then they could also buy stuff.
	That sounds pretty good, right?
	You'll be able to buy things just directly on Twitter.
	One click, boom, done.
	But they need to feel that there is an opportunity for them to influence what you're building.
	That vision.
	What we're doing here, whether it's me trying to push and prod you on your tweets.
	For example, you've said you probably shouldn't tweet after 3am.
	Well, I've got myself into trouble a few times.
	Now, why is everybody hating on this woman, Jeff, on the right?
	Well, because she comes from NBC.
	I think she had some affiliation with the World Economic Forum.
	They think that she's going to make it the way it was before.
	But you don't believe that, do you?
	No, I don't think so.
	There's no way Elon's going to turn it over to somebody like that.
	If you look at her background, she sales.
	That's all she's ever done, and she knows all those people.
	Twitter has been getting killed with ad revenue.
	They said over 50 of the top 100 companies left and that was over a billion dollars in
	revenue since 2020 that they have lost.
	They need to get advertisers back.
	She knows all these people.
	She's the salesperson.
	Right.
	So he, she is being hired because he needs to fix it, correct?
	Yes.
	And she's probably a lib.
	And I can tell you if I ran Twitter, I would hire a liberal to be the head of advertising.
	But somebody in my team has just sent me this from an article.
	Some of her colleagues said, if I were placing this woman anywhere on the spectrum, it would probably be a Reagan Republican.
	Because she's also, another media executive said, she's a fan of President Trump.
	You know what's interesting?
	I looked her up on Twitter, Jeff.
	Guess what I found on her Twitter bio.
	On her Twitter page.
	What was that?
	She follows me.
	Not a lot of crazy Trump haters follow me on Twitter.
	Isn't that interesting?
	And plus she does sales.
	I think most of those people are Republicans.
	Come on, guys.
	It's Elon.
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	Yeah.
	Greetings dear friends.
	Welcome to the Manhood Hour.
	Why do we have the Manhood Hour?
	Why on earth would we need to dedicate a whole segment of our national show every week to the question of manhood, masculinity, and the threats upon it?
	Does it have something to do with razors?
	Yeah, it does.
	Strange to say, but it does.
	Gillette, probably the most famous brand in the world, Not too long ago, they had this to say about men.
	Is this the best a man can get?
	Is it?
	We can't hide from it.
	masculinity. Is this the best a man can get?
	Is it?
	We can't hide from it. It's been going on far too long.
	We can't laugh it off.
	Who's the daddy?
	What I actually think she's trying to say.
	Making the same old excuses.
	Boys will be boys.
	But something finally changed.
	Allegations regarding sexual assault and sexual harassment.
	And there will be no going back.
	Because we...
	We believe in the best in men.
	Men need to hold other men accountable.
	Smile, sweetie.
	Come on.
	To say the right thing.
	To act the right way.
	Bro, am I cool?
	Am I cool?
	Some already are.
	In ways big and small.
	But some is not enough.
	Is that how we treat each other, okay?
	Because the boys watching today will be the men of tomorrow.
	Do you enjoy being lectured at when they're trying to sell you something?
	How about the fact that you're blaming men for being toxic and boys roughhousing is a bad thing and also the implicit bigotry that the white guys were doing the naughty things in that video and it was the colored men who said, oh no, you're being far, far too toxic.
	Do you respond to it?
	Well, one man did.
	Surprisingly, from a sector that has nothing to do with politics, the media, or the culture war.
	And here's his superb response.
	Cut one.
	What is a man?
	Is a man brave?
	Is a man A hero... Is a man... Is a man a protector... Is a man... Vulnerable... Is a man...
	Is a man disposable?
	Is a man broken?
	is a man trying.
	The What you don't see at the end and during it is who provided it, the Eggard Watch Company and the statistics that 80% of homeless in America are men, 97% of war fatalities are men, on and on and on.
	Why did the maker of that film think it was necessary?
	Well, he's our special guest here on the Manhood Hour.
	The man behind the Eggard watch company, Ilan Shurlovich.
	Welcome to America First Manhood Hour.
	Thanks for having me on, Sebastian.
	I haven't seen another ad from another company of this ilk, watch company or otherwise, so you'll explain to us why you did it.
	But first, for those who aren't familiar with you or your responses or your company, say a little bit about who you are and your path in life so far.
	Well, I started off as an actor.
	I had a background in Hollywood, worked on different TV shows.
	I went through a little rough period in my life where I got sick and my dad was there to help take care of me.
	And it made a huge difference.
	When you go through chronic illness, having a proper support system can make all the difference.
	And so I ended up wanting to make it up to him somehow and honor him somehow.
	So I ended up designing a watch.
	I had a design background and it turned into the company.
	And since then, you know, it's evolved in some cases as a platform to put out these messages.
	And we just continue to make watches.
	My acting career has taken a bit of a hit because I've been a little bit too vocal, but that's okay.
	That's a sacrifice I'm more than happy to make.
	And that's my journey.
	Alright, so tell us why you felt you had to make that movie.
	Instead of just talking about, you know, cool watches and selling watches, why did you have to make that mini-film?
	You know, I got to a point where, you know, I'll be totally honest with you here.
	I got to a point where I was spending so much time just going on social media and arguing with people and just debating people and trying to get people to realize that the narrative toward men was not only detrimental toward men themselves, but also women and society as a whole.
	And there's going to be long-term consequences to it.
	And it was just falling on deaf ears.
	So I decided to use the biggest platform I had at the time, which was my watch company.
	We had a pretty good following.
	We'd done a lot of stuff with celebrities.
	And so people followed the company and I knew that the message would get out that way.
	The Gillette ad was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
	When a company that is historically a company that supports masculinity goes entirely against it.
	And you notice their language is very specific.
	They go, some men are not like this, but some is not enough.
	Implying that the minority of men are the ones who are good, that the majority are the ones who are bad.
	And so it just got me to a breaking point where I said, you know what?
	This has to be countered.
	I'm not going to let huge corporations constantly put out these messages without some kind of bigger platform, like a company like ours, where a company, at least, we're not an individual, putting out a message in response to show people it's OK.
	There's people out there who do believe what you believe, because so long as companies don't do it, Hollywood doesn't do it.
	Media doesn't do it.
	People become isolated.
	I'm curious, what was the impact, because at the end it says, Agard Watch Company, there's no watches in there, there's just firemen, fathers, you name it.
	What was the impact on your company?
	Negative, positive, I'm just curious.
	Incredibly positive, which is the thing I wish other companies realized.
	Incredibly positive response.
	Not just, by the way, from men, but from countless mothers who said, I'm worried about my son, the world he's growing up in and the way he's described by people nowadays, by sisters, by daughters talking about their fathers and all the wonderful, wonderful things they did.
	So there is an entire ecosystem here that is not just men that is affected by this.
	And we had such a positive response.
	Well, that's a very important message for those who are afraid to talk about these things openly.
	This man is, and there aren't many of them.
	Let's support him.
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	Ilan, let's go through the standard questions I ask all of my guests on the Manhood Hour.
	First things first, the greatest... I think I know the answer, given the clip I'm going to play in a few minutes, I think I know the answer to this question, but talk to us about your influences.
	Who helped you understand what a man truly is?
	Who gave you the formative information?
	You said, yeah, that's what I want to be.
	Yeah, it was absolutely my father.
	Like I said, I went through a really rough period in my life.
	One of the most important things that he instilled in me, I believe, is understanding the virtues of masculinity, which is something that's entirely lost on society.
	So he's a great example.
	He's an incredibly selfless individual.
	And so he's been kind of the inspiration or the thing to look up to and live up to.
	And it really draws attention to the importance of having a father in your life.
	Do you discuss these issues with him?
	For example, the Gillette ad.
	How does your father react to what he's seeing today?
	Or Dylan Mulvaney, what does he say?
	Well, you know, when he sees the complete deconstruction of gender, of masculinity, of femininity, He always tells me, he's like, look, the pendulum will always swing back.
	He's a very hopeful individual.
	And he believes that as long as people speak up, as long as people get to a point where they're willing to stand up for what they believe in, that it doesn't matter how strong the opposition is, if you're speaking truth, that it will inevitably win.
	It takes one person to speak truth into the world for a thousand lives to be destroyed.
	So that's something he's always told me, something he believes in.
	Say that again.
	I love that.
	Say that line again about one truth.
	So it takes one person to speak truth into the world for a thousand lives to be destroyed.
	I love that.
	I love that.
	Talk to us a little bit about your definition as you learned it from your father.
	What kind of characteristics are non-negotiable for a man?
	What is a modern man?
	Well, they're the traditional virtues that have existed throughout all of society, throughout all of history.
	In any society that's, you know, managed to succeed, you look at traditional Virtues like fortitude, being courageous, being able to stand up in the face of adversity, being capable.
	You know, not living in fear.
	We've become a society that is very fear-based.
	Men should not live in fear.
	Fear is the opposite.
	It's the antithesis of a virtue.
	So those are the kind of virtues that were instilled in me.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Okay.
	Let's talk about the latest thing that you've done.
	We'll talk about a movie project that is imminent, but you have done something with regards to women that I think is just as important as our discussions here on the Manhood Hour.
	This is your latest ad or political statement.
	Cut three.
	Let's play the cut.
	When I was a little girl, I had this dream that seemed so impossible.
	I was going to be the fastest runner in the world.
	I got this little nugget of an idea from my dad.
	He used to watch me run and say, ain't no woman alive that can beat you.
	And I believed him.
	He made me feel invincible.
	It wasn't easy.
	I trained hard, harder than anyone else I know.
	But I was made for this.
	I was an unstoppable force.
	A life dedicated to perfection.
	But even perfection...
	wouldn't be enough.
	The Perfectionist you
	All right, you can't see the headlines in the rest of the movie.
	Who is that person?
	And explain to our radio listeners what happens at the end of that film.
	So it's a it's a young girl who's inspired to run track by her father tells her she could be the best and she is the best.
	And she grows up And competes and wins until the final moment of the video where she competes and realizes she's competing against a biological male and that she's gonna lose.
	And all that hard work and all that sacrifice and everything she's put into her entire life is lost.
	And then the headlines at the end show examples of it.
	You know, Fallon Fox in MMA breaking the skull of a woman.
	Yeah.
	You know, all the other examples that are there.
	So after your response to Gillette and, you know, what it is to be a man video, why did you flip and then do this one, Ilan?
	I think they're directly connected.
	You know, it's very interesting.
	When I put out the video in support of men, of masculinity, the response from a lot of people on the left was, oh, you don't care about women's issues.
	You want to, you want to ignore everything going on with women.
	When the reality is, I believe it's a symbiotic relationship.
	We have to support each other.
	I, you know, by me speaking at men at that time didn't mean I don't want to stand up for women.
	And this was an opportunity to stand up for women.
	There's a complete erasure of womanhood, of biological sex entirely.
	You know, for both men and women, but it's affecting women far more if you look at the consequences of it and who's at risk.
	And there's just a general trend toward denial of absolute truth, which is so incredibly dangerous.
	And I can get more into this later in how I view it, but that's the reason I made the video.
	I honestly just find it ridiculous that people who have fought for women's rights for years are now silent when biological males with a history of abuse are being put in prison with women, when we're erasing women's achievements in sports, when we're You know, affecting children at such a young age.
	I mean, it's just shocking to me.
	Where are all the quote-unquote real feminists?
	The response to that video about women?
	Again, incredibly positive.
	There's this misconception in society that the vocal minority somehow controls the narrative.
	They don't.
	They only control it because we're complicit.
	We're agreeable.
	So many of us just go through our day Just not wanting to upset or go against the status quo.
	And we believe that because people are vocal, they represent the majority.
	And again, when corporations don't put out ads that show that they're not the majority, when Hollywood pushes this narrative, when politicians push this narrative, it's very easy to believe it, but it's not the truth.
	The vast majority of Americans believe in common sense.
	We want a common sense world to live in.
	But until again, until companies don't speak up and until politicians and media don't start changing their narrative, people will feel isolated.
	It's actually one of the most common characteristics for me as an immigrant that I see in my fellow American.
	It's that sense of common sense.
	People have that as Americans.
	It's a very important message you have, that the vocal minority do not actually control the narrative.
	We're talking to Ilan Surilović.
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	This is a beautiful, beautiful video about the father-son relationship.
	Cut four.
	At the moment I saw you for the first time, I knew.
	I knew it was game over.
	I would love you forever.
	I knew I would stand by your side no matter what.
	I knew that I would give up everything to make your life better.
	I knew that every moment of pain for you would be a moment of pain for me.
	I knew I would be your guide, your example, your standard in this world for what it means to be a man.
	See, but what I didn't know was just how much this world would test us.
	I didn't know how strong you were.
	I didn't know how I needed you just as much as you needed me.
	I didn't know how much better you would make me.
	The good.
	The bad.
	There's nothing I would change if it meant you weren't my son.
	And all I want in this world is for a piece of me to carry on with you.
	Thank you.
	And I don't think you even see a watch on anybody's wrist in that whole film.
	It's about the father-son relationship.
	And it's like, you know, I'm a watch guy.
	I'm a gun guy, a watch guy.
	I'm wearing an Agard watch right now.
	But for me, Why isn't there more of that?
	Why don't other CEOs, other companies, without politics... I don't want companies to get political, left or right wing.
	I want them to be purveyors of quality stuff at a good price.
	But why don't other companies talk about meaningful stuff like you do so often, Ilan?
	What are they afraid of?
	They're afraid of backlash that, you know, I think what they're most afraid of nowadays is actually their, uh, company culture from within that has shifted.
	So in other words, even if you believe in these things, if you're worried that your employees who are younger, who are, uh, you know, uh, more woke don't, that you can have a, an effect within your company.
	That's almost more scary than it happening from outside your company, right?
	If your company starts to decay within the culture of your company's affected, it's very hard to save that.
	You don't want a mass exodus and so it takes a lot of courage if you're dealing with that to risk, you know, you're putting food on your family's table to put out messages that people might disagree with within your own ecosystem within your own company.
	And so I think that hinders a lot of people.
	Also, I think people just go with trends.
	Again, they hear people saying something, they don't necessarily know if it's the majority or not, and they just put it out there.
	And then now we're starting to see the consequences of doing that.
	You know, you see it with Anheuser-Busch, obviously.
	Very disturbing story to share exactly along those lines when it comes to the threat from inside the company, not from expectations of what somebody outside may say or a customer or an advertiser may say.
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	That was fascinating, what you just said about the fear, Ilan.
	Of not speaking the truth on big issues because there might be some backlash inside your company.
	I have a good friend.
	I've known him since about 9-11 and he left Washington DC.
	He was an amazing.
	He worked in the defense field.
	I'll just say that.
	And he had a dream.
	And based upon a tradition in his family from his grandparents, he decided to build a company.
	It was a brewing company in the middle of nowhere in a very depressed part of New England
	that had seen better days.
	And through grit and determination with his brothers, he turned it into an incredible success,
	built multiple facilities, is now exporting to 12 states of the United States.
	It's, you know, this amazing, amazing success story after just eight years.
	And then he saw that, you know, my business story is the American business story.
	So I'm going to run for office.
	And he ran a very safe, business-oriented campaign for Congress out of this state.
	And we gave him some money.
	I campaigned for him.
	I loved the idea.
	And then suddenly he shuts down the campaign.
	Doesn't say why.
	And actually, think of this, Ilan.
	He refunded our donations to his campaign.
	I don't think a lot of politicians do that.
	And I could tell that was a big issue.
	So I just let him go away.
	He went on vacation.
	Didn't want to talk about it.
	And then I found out what the problem was.
	His employees At the restaurant, the bar, and the brewery, said, you cannot run as a Republican.
	We will not let you run as a Republican.
	This is a man who has given them their livelihood.
	And they say, if you're running as a Democrat, that's fine.
	But if you run as a Republican, we're going to undermine your enterprise.
	I find that horrific, Elon.
	Yeah, and it's sadly become a common trend.
	Again, we've accepted ideologies that are closer to extremist religions in society now.
	They no longer believe in free speech.
	They no longer believe in dialogue.
	They believe in control and dominance.
	And I can get into why I believe They believe those things and have ended up there.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So again, it comes down to if you look at everything that's under attack nowadays, there's a binary there, right?
	You look at the things that are under attack, they're things that are based in any form of absolute truth.
	And when I say absolute truth, I mean that you accept from a fundamental point That there are things that in this universe that are bigger than the material, something spiritual, something greater than things that exist within the universe.
	And because of that, some things are just absolutely true, whether it's God, whether you're just a hyper spiritual person and believe that there's some form of absolute ethics.
	Now, if you deny that entirely, there's a binary there.
	Your only other option is that you believe that nothing is absolutely true.
	Because if you believe one thing is absolutely true, then absolute truth exists.
	So then you go down the road of moral relativism.
	Nihilism and you have no sense of identity anymore, which is why you see things like the transgender movement, attacks on things that are inherently known to men by birth.
	You understand that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.
	These are not things that even need to be taught.
	We know they're different, but that's what's under attack.
	And that leads again to nihilism.
	And these people are so obsessed with finding identity and value that they've created this religion, which is in opposition to what God would be or anything that is absolute.
	Where anything can be anything.
	And so, that's why they're so extreme.
	That's why they can't accept any opposing view.
	And the second you give them any type of position that is based in any form of absolute truth, they are extremely offended by the need to attack it and destroy it.
	Yeah.
	It's the antithesis of truth.
	Yeah.
	So, so to the point.
	If you had to write a little curriculum for How we save masculinity, what we teach the young boys of today, what would be some of the non-negotiables on that curriculum, Elon?
	Boys would have to be capable.
	They'd have to know how to protect themselves and their families.
	I'm a huge fan of everyone in society understanding how to use a firearm, how to do basic, basic goods, basic survival goods, you know, how to change a tire, You know how to prepare a meal just basic things that have slowly been lost by a lot of men over time I think martial arts is an incredibly valuable thing to teach men discipline how to control your your energy especially for young men and Jordan Peterson, I don't remember exactly how he said it, but there's there's a there's a phrase there and other people said it throughout history as well that you should be capable of extreme violence and
	But have the restraint to not use it.
	He said you've got to know how to be dangerous.
	You have to know how to be a dangerous man.
	You have to control it, but you have to know what it means to be dangerous.
	And I don't believe it's just physically, I believe it's mentally also.
	We have to be a stronger society mentally.
	I think Stoicism is fantastic.
	I think there's elements of Stoicism that are very valuable.
	And again, just going back to those virtues.
	Those traditional virtues.
	Do you think that, you know, we have the phenomena like Dylan Mulvaney that goes from being a failed actor to be the fake woman interviewing the president in the White House.
	Do you think things like that and the drag queen recruiters in the Navy, do you think that is a sign that they've gone too far?
	That there will be a Backlash, as you said, the pendulum.
	Are you an optimist that things will swing back?
	Or do we need to see more courage from CEOs like yourself or just average citizens?
	We definitely need to see more people speaking up.
	And I think what's good is now people, even though they're not using their voice necessarily, what they are using is their dollars.
	That's step number one.
	And that has a major, major impact.
	Like Budweiser.
	Yes.
	But the next step Is being vocal, creating content.
	You know, people need to create content that is on this side.
	People need to not be scared to put things into the world that are on this side.
	And people always tell me, well, I don't have a big platform.
	I'm like, if you change one person's mind, you know, many friends of mine I have talked to for years, for years, I've spent talking to them just to get them to see my point of view.
	And finally they do.
	And they go, Oh my God.
	And I consider that a win.
	That's one person.
	Cause that one person will now go do that to another one person.
	And eventually it'll have an effect on society.
	Yeah, so don't don't underestimate the power of your voice.
	That's that's a big lesson in life.
	People have to look at themselves as catalysts.
	You know, you can catalyze somebody else that person catalyzes another 10 and on and it's it's it's an entropy.
	It's it's it's a scale of Of influence that one person can have.
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	So I think I teased it out of you that you are an optimist on all of these issues.
	However, we have to be catalysts.
	We have to put out, as you said, content.
	Talk to us about a very exciting new piece of content that you're working on, Ilan, a little bit longer than the films we've shown today.
	Yeah, it's a feature-length documentary.
	It's very fascinating and it's on censorship.
	It's on people self-censoring.
	It's on cancel culture, but it goes into a much deeper concept of mass psychosis or psychogenic epidemics where people kind of accept unrealities into society as a majority and the effects of that.
	And we did some really cool stuff.
	We did a social experiment where, you know, we brought people in to see if they would destroy someone's life just based on social pressure.
	And there's some really, really interesting stuff in there that's Sadly, pretty troubling, but also a little bit of hope.
	And you, uh, you interviewed some big names, right?
	People who have canceled, have been canceled and survived.
	Yeah.
	We had some really, really interesting people, uh, interview Jordan Peterson, uh, Roseanne.
	Uh, she was an amazing interview.
	Uh, we, we have a ton, Jimmy door.
	We have people on both sides, Dee Snider, who's much more left leaning, but just recently he's in the news again.
	Cause, uh, he said something at the pride parade that got him kicked out.
	Uh, and so.
	It's just interesting.
	It's kind of eating itself on that side.
	But yeah, we have some great interviews there.
	All right.
	When can we expect to see it?
	Hopefully, we're in final edits right now.
	We're doing color correction and then audio mix.
	So, you know, within hopefully a couple of months, it's going to be out.
	That's super exciting.
	OK, last thing, your message to those men out there or even, you know, women who understand that there's only one truth, who think that this is political and they don't have anything to say.
	What do you say to them?
	Well, you know, if they think that silence will create a better world for tomorrow, they don't realize that they're just taking some comfort today for a much worse world that will affect them in ways that they don't yet anticipate.
	So I do think, again, the importance of speaking up, the importance of putting what you believe into the world.
	You can't undervalue that, and so people should use their voice.
	Yeah, it's a very simple but powerful message.
	Just saying nothing.
	How do you think, whoever you are, whatever the issue is that you have passion about, whether it is the assault on classic concepts of masculinity or femininity or life itself, If you think silence is going to make things better, how on earth would silence make things better?
	It won't.
	You can be the agent of change.
	As many dissidents who suffered under dictatorial regimes, Václav Havel and others, Solzhenitsyn, have made it clear, one man telling the truth Can make the edifice of lies collapse.
	You could be that person.
	You need to be that person.
	Because if not you, then who?
	Think about the future.
	Not just for yourself, but for your loved ones, for your children, for your grandchildren, for your posterity.
	We've been talking to Ilan Surlovich.
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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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