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May 5, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The significance of the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy convictions

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	We'll get you more information on that as we get it.
	That happened just a few moments ago.
	Biden saying a big announcement.
	He's ready to make it.
	There was one problem with that.
	Jeff, what was the problem with President Biden saying he's about to make a big announcement?
	The only problem was there was no press conference scheduled and the White House had to come out and say that he misspoke.
	So the guy who's running America doesn't know what's going on?
	It's a shame because the line, he kind of nailed it there.
	He didn't screw it up.
	The one time he actually had a good line, it was a complete mistake.
	It's a good way to start the Friday show.
	Thank you, Jeff.
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	Greetings, dear friends.
	We have a crackerjack lineup for you today.
	We have a Marine.
	I love the Marines.
	We'll talk about what happened on the New York subway with a Marine in a moment.
	But we have an incredible Marine who will be joining us for the one-on-one for the whole hour to talk to us about What it means to be a man in the modern age.
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	We will be joined We will also have the incredible Julie Kelly to explain to us what the significance for President Trump and all patriots is of the January 6 Proud Boy convictions this week, using the term seditious conspiracy.
	The consequences are potentially very, very dangerous.
	And one man who's been fighting the swamp for years now, Kash Patel, on his latest assault on the administrative state.
	But first, let's talk about the subway.
	Let's talk about the subway.
	Oh, let's leverage it off what the left thinks.
	This is Joy Reid, the homophobe, who writes anti-gay posts on her blog that she has never apologized for with that other charlatan Al Sharpton.
	Cut three.
	How does this guy get to get away with doing a chokehold that police can't even do?
	And what about all those other people standing there watching him die?
	How is that not a crime?
	They didn't help him.
	There was no one else on the train.
	No one was at risk.
	Not only didn't help him, you have three guys holding him down.
	What about the guys holding him down that aided and abetted a chokehold that resulted in a murder?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Let me say this.
	There is something to be said about media who knows this individual's name and has yet to release it.
	Wow.
	So the media should be doxing, should be releasing the identity of the Marine who did what?
	You heard outrageous lies there.
	The other people who watched and should have been arrested as well, because the person who died, Mr. Neely, the homeless individual, wasn't threatening at all.
	Well, in fact, he was reigning against the occupants of that subway carriage.
	He had 43 prior arrests, including beating up a 70-year-old woman.
	Clearly mental issues.
	Clearly a problem individual who thought violence was okay.
	And we have multiple witnesses from that carriage who said he was screaming at the occupants of the carriage, saying, you will feed me, you will give me food, I'm going to use force, and I don't care if I get arrested or killed.
	Now, a normal person doesn't say that, but it doesn't matter whether an individual is using force in a conscious, logical fashion or is mentally compromised and is using force, the threat to innocent people is the same.
	And nobody did anything until one Marine decided, my job as a man is to protect the vulnerable.
	It is In addition to raising a family, being a good husband and a good father, one of the most important things you can do as a man.
	Your job every single day is to make sure that those around you are safe.
	You don't have to be a Marine, you don't have to be a, you know, Delta Force sniper or a member of a SWAT team, but that is your job.
	It has been since the dawn of human society.
	As a man, you are bigger, you are stronger, and you must know how to use force, to use violence when necessary.
	Subway of New York.
	Well, we've had almost 60 homicides in the last three years.
	Just on the metro system.
	Just on the mass transit system of Manhattan and Greater New York.
	This was going to happen.
	Somebody called this yesterday, our new Bernie Getz moment.
	If you're not familiar with Bernie Getz, this is a New York resident who had been mugged multiple times.
	Who had to use mass transit and was attacked by some young men, one of whom had a sharpened screwdriver, which is a lethal weapon.
	You can kill somebody very, very quickly with a sharpened screwdriver with a thrust to the thorax.
	And they were about to mug him.
	So Bernie gets Multiple mugging victim pulled out an unregistered 38 Smith and Wesson revolver and used it to protect himself.
	It was the core celebra, the story for that year in the 1980s for months and months and months.
	And I believe if I remember well, Eric can probably look it up while I'm talking.
	He was eventually acquitted by a jury of his peers, or at least it didn't serve any significant jail time.
	But why?
	Why did the Bernier-Getz effect actually happen?
	Because before Rudy Giuliani brought safety to New York, dropped the murder rate from 600 a year down to a third of that and less.
	It was a hellhole.
	It was one of the rings of Dante's Inferno.
	My wife lived there.
	It was not a safe place.
	And now, with multiple years of the demonizing of the police, the Democrats defund the police movement, and on top of that, activists, district attorneys and prosecutors, often Soros-funded, like Alvin Bragg, like Kim Gardner, who, thank the good Lord, has just resigned, The victims have been ignored.
	And the perpetrators, the criminals, in some sense of restributive justice?
	Have been treated as their heroes.
	To be mollycoddled, to be released, to be arrested and released dozens of times as this poor man Mr. Neely was.
	More than 40 occasions, including the use of force against an elderly woman.
	What did you expect was going to happen?
	A real man was going to step up.
	Did he have malice aforethought?
	We shall see.
	If he did, that's a problem.
	But my money is on this Marine doing what any real man should have done.
	Protect innocent human beings, men and women, in danger.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Oh, okay.
	They think she's just really stupid.
	Joy Reid?
	Yeah.
	No, she knows exactly what she's saying.
	Really?
	But to say live on air that he posed no threat to anybody?
	They believe that!
	Remember, they believe America's a racist society.
	They probably believe, like, institutional racism made him mentally ill.
	You know, the institutions and whatnot.
	They essentially see that as, you know, he was a victim of a racist society that then killed him.
	And the real part, too, she says, oh, all the bystanders and witnesses should also have been arrested.
	They've already got precedent for that.
	That's what happened in that, um, that jogger case.
	The Ahmet Aubrey guy.
	Right, right, right.
	They literally convicted a man of murder because he just filmed it.
	Not because he was involved, because he was filming it.
	What is- Where's West Islip?
	West?
	It's New York, isn't it?
	Yeah, I think it's Long Island.
	I think it is.
	Oh, titles, by the way.
	Oh yeah.
	Um...
	I definitely want to reference our special guest with the movies.
	Kneely Death Yep.
	Yeah, it's Long Island.
	Long Island.
	Kneely Death, colon.
	Protecting the innocent.
	And yeah, Guts was found guilty of criminal possession of a weapon, but all the other charges he was accused of.
	Yeah, but did he serve time?
	I don't- let me check that again.
	I don't think he did any.
	I watched a documentary on that.
	Sentenced to one year in jail, released after eight and a half months.
	Right.
	Um... For Darvey... So good.
	What should we call it?
	No, Rochelle Walensky resigned, that's for sure.
	I saw that.
	What should we call it?
	Something unlike, you know, talking to one of the stars of the Goonies or something like that.
	Maybe... Interview with a star, colon, the Goonies.
	Interview with a star.
	The Goonies.
	The star or a star?
	A star.
	A star, okay.
	My pillow.
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	The headline, yeah, let me get that.
	I have, yep, question two.
	There we go.
	Okay, good.
	All right, good.
	And you've got the book as well?
	Yep, Government Gangsters, governmentgangsters.com.
	All right.
	Such a great book.
	All right.
	Let's do it.
	Are you coming to D.C.
	anytime soon?
	I'm actually here for another two days and then I'm going to Florida.
	Are you here in D.C.
	right now?
	Technically Virginia, but yeah.
	That's how I was able to cover your show!
	Yeah, I know, but that's why I'd love you to be in studio.
	Yeah, no, I'm like way out in Virginia.
	Like that wouldn't... Alright.
	All right.
	So much to cover in one segment, but we will do our best.
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	I've done podcast.
	Oh, I didn't do merch.
	Right.
	Let's do my pillow and merch.
	My pillow at the top here.
	Mic's off.
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	Alright breaking news they have named the marine involved in the Neely death on the New York subway it is Jordan sorry it is 24 year old Daniel Penny, who worked as an instructor in the Marine Corps.
	The name again, we have Penny, Daniel Penny, 21 years old.
	As soon as we get more information we will share with you.
	But now we have to talk to somebody who, I don't know, I have to watch my back.
	Allegedly he's pretty good at guest hosting radio.
	Former Chief of Staff of the Pentagon, former acting Director of National Intelligence Kash Patel, welcome back to a studio I think you know rather well.
	It's just missing a fight with Cash Hat.
	Good to be with you, Seb.
	Fight with Cash Hat hoodie, whatever.
	Next time I've got to be on the road, we will give you a jingle and you can wear it here on air.
	All right, let's talk about the fact that you are making waves.
	We've got an exclusive from Breitbart.
	Here's the headline.
	Cash Patel suing Defense Department for obstructing The release of his book that exposes the deep state.
	Cash, didn't you used to run the Pentagon?
	Why are you suing the Pentagon?
	You know, Seb, it just highlights the two tiers of not just justice, but just the application of the rules for government.
	As you know, as a former employee of the government, if you want to write a book, you have to submit your manuscript.
	And I said, OK, let's be above board about this.
	There's a process in place.
	Let's protect classified information.
	But now it's been six months when the average period is three to four months to release the manuscript.
	They have sat on my manuscript for three months.
	Are they very slow readers?
	Does it take them a long time to read?
	Or did you write War and Peace?
	Well, Seb, you know this about me.
	I can't use big words because I don't know what they mean.
	So it's got a lot of small words in it.
	Maybe that's what they're getting tripped up on.
	Or maybe it's the fact that I exposed Mark Milley for being one of the biggest government gangsters, along with Mark Esper and so many others in DoD and the intel community that they don't want it out.
	So we see that.
	Back, put the book back up.
	It is federal.
	Hang on, we lost you for a second.
	We lost you for a second.
	Hang on, let's let the connection establish.
	Here's the book.
	Order it now because it puts pressure on as well.
	Government gangsters, the deep state, the truth, and the battle for our democracy, Kash Patel.
	So people need to read the book in detail, but tell all the people listening right now why they have to stop its release, Kash.
	Well, it's like anything else, Seb.
	It's like your daily reporting.
	Every time you expose a corrupt actor in the deep state, be it Tony Blinken or how the DOJ has handled Hunter Biden, our mission is to protect America first.
	And that's what this book is all about, returning the deep state actors to the gulags that they actually belong in.
	And this book is about how we fix each agency and department and how we win in 2024.
	so that they take care of our border, defeat China and the CCP,
	make sure there are no more forever wars.
	And look what you have when the deep state run amok.
	Joe Biden's economy, Joe Biden's diplomacy, fail therein, and Joe Biden's international warfare mongering program.
	And this book is about how we fix each agency and department and how we win in 2024.
	That's what Donald Trump said about the book, and there must be a reason or two
	why they don't want it out.
	Governmentgangsters.com.
	Go right now.
	Governmentgangsters.com and follow Cash on Truth Social.
	I got another headline here from Breitbart.
	Brennan Clapper to testify before weaponization committee on Hunter Biden laptop letter.
	We have this sworn testimony from the former acting director of the CIA that he colluded With the Biden campaign, with Tony Blinken on the Thelonious 51 letter of Intel executives, former agents.
	Is this a big deal or can these guys just shrug it off as usual, Cash?
	It is a huge deal, and they are trying to shrug it off at usual.
	The 51 Intel letter is the Steele dossier 2.0.
	Mike Morrell has not rigged one, not two, but three presidential elections, starting with his disastrous editing of the Benghazi attacks, where he didn't want notifications sent to the world that it was a terrorist attack because he wanted Obama to be protected.
	Then he was the first senior intelligence officer to announce Donald Trump falsely You're breaking up again.
	By his own admission, what did Morel do?
	You're breaking up again by his own omission.
	What did Morel do?
	What did he say?
	I can't remember.
	This is why we gotta get these guys in studio, especially when they're in the swamp.
	Mike Morrell colluding with the man who will be later rewarded with what?
	The position as the highest diplomat in the land.
	We have the email traffic now.
	There's even email traffic in the latest piece from John Solomon.
	Between who?
	Mike Morrell And John Brennan, the former director of the CIA, Obama's director of the CIA.
	So my question to you, Cash, is does any of this matter as long as the DOJ is in the hands of the guys who hate President Trump and propagated the Steele dossier?
	It doesn't matter because it's not like Coney had it.
	It refers to America.
	And sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	All right, we're going to get Cash in studio to discuss.
	I'm sorry to all of our listeners.
	I wanted to get him on the show today to talk about the fact that he is suing the DoD.
	It's time to stand up.
	If there's one person that can do it, who is a fighter, it's likely to be that man.
	The question is, where are the rest of them?
	As my friend Chris Plant says, perhaps one of the greatest successes of the left in the last 20 years is to guarantee, is to ensure that sane conservatives will never ever consider working in a Republican White House, let alone a White House where the president is Donald Trump.
	Why would you do that?
	If you see what happens to people like Cash, or Steve Bannon, or Peter Navarro, Why would a sane person do that?
	You have to be a patriot of significant backbone and fortitude, let's just put it at that, to stand to the slings and arrows of the left and resist the calumny, the smears, day in day out.
	And then when you want to tell the truth, like Cash does, What do they do?
	They put roadblocks in your way.
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	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-S-E-B-Gorka-Store.com The deep state clearly didn't want him to speak.
	Yeah.
	Did you know he was local, Jeff?
	Yeah, but he couldn't anyway.
	He had another interview at 3.30.
	you at 3.30.
	.
	Friday.
	Play me cut six in full.
	Cut six.
	Hear all the chattering from Republicans who are glorifying these convicts and people who are beating the hell out of cops.
	I was at the 80th anniversary of an event on the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
	Wow.
	I'm gonna use that.
	old Holocaust survivor spoke to the crowd and then spoke to me after and he
	said we're watching we were watching on January the 6th and when you won we won
	and I said what do you mean when we won he said you're bringing them to justice
	we didn't do that here in the 30s and we paid the ultimate price for it
	Cut five.
	I'm just kidding.
	John, this strikes a chord, especially for people who live in big cities.
	I mean, we've all been, you and I are New Yorkers, we've all been on streets or in subways where there are people having what appear to be psychotic episodes or some sort of mental health crisis, screaming, seem threatening, and it's a question of, you know, you're trapped on a train, what do you do?
	One wants citizens to help other citizens.
	This is a tough one.
	Well, it is a tough one.
	And, you know, Anderson, you hit it on the head.
	There is no New Yorker who rides the trains who hasn't had the experience of an individual coming in, aggressive behavior, threatening behavior.
	And people tend to look at their shoes, close their eyes and say, please don't make eye contact.
	Please don't pick me and hope that the thing passes.
	Yeah, I can imagine the last time Anderson Cooper ride the subway.
	The fact they're even acknowledging that side of the perspective of it is interesting to me.
	They're acknowledging there is a problem there.
	That's why I don't think it's going to blow up.
	There's not the media firestorm behind it, though.
	You know what I mean?
	Not yet, I don't think.
	Usually it would have taken off by now.
	Well, and also I guess they know they don't want riots while Biden is president because that doesn't help him, but... I like what you said.
	This is a Bernie Getz moment, if anything.
	Wasn't he like a journalist or something?
	No, I don't think so.
	You're just a guy.
	Alright.
	40 seconds.
	Could have been, but I don't recall.
	30.
	Want to use any cuts here?
	Yeah, I'm going to use the Scarborough one.
	Scarborough.
	5.
	No, 6.
	Okay, part, no six, okay, yep.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
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	I'm going to try and compare two things.
	Bear with me for a second.
	Historic events, one recent, one not so recent.
	On January the 6th, in America, we had a peaceful collection of individuals go to the Ellipse outside the White House and listen to President Trump.
	I was there.
	I was sitting there in the front row about 20 feet from my former boss.
	And that was the day that the Electoral College votes were meant to be certified by the Vice President, who is, of course, the President of the Senate.
	Nothing happened at the Ellipse or at the White House afterwards.
	Some of those there, and who hadn't been there but went directly to Congress, did stupid things.
	We don't know what the percentage of them was who could be agent provocateurs, Federal agents, we have no idea, because the establishment doesn't want you to know.
	We have no idea why Ray Epps was on the top of the FBI's Most Wanted poster for weeks and weeks and weeks and then magically just disappeared and is living peacefully today.
	We don't know.
	But violence did erupt.
	Violence was used by the police, some of whom opened the doors of Congress and let people in.
	We know afterwards that things were broken, we know protesters died, and we know one of them was killed by officer Michael Bird, a 14-year Air Force veteran shot in the neck and murdered.
	Her name is Ashley Babbitt.
	Let's compare all of that, the events of three hours on January the 6th, to the Holocaust.
	Holocaust was the extermination, or the attempted extermination, of a whole people.
	The Jewish people of Europe.
	Who were first corralled into ghettos, then sent to labor camps, and then sent to death camps.
	Six million of whom were killed.
	Men, women, and children.
	Gassed and burnt.
	Cremated.
	Mass murder on a scale we hadn't seen before.
	Two different things, wouldn't you say?
	Not according to the Democrats and not according to former Republicans.
	Please listen to what this cable channel has just said.
	It's Joe Scarborough.
	Play the cut.
	I hear all the chattering from Republicans who are glorifying these convicts and people who are beating the hell out of cops.
	I was at the 80th anniversary of an event, on the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and a 97-year-old Holocaust survivor spoke to the crowd and then spoke to me after and he said, we're watching.
	We were watching on January the 6th, and when you won, we won.
	And I said, what do you mean when we won?
	You're bringing them to justice.
	We didn't do that here in the 30s.
	And we paid the ultimate price for it.
	Did you hear what Joe Scarborough just said, a former congressman who had an intern suspiciously die in his office?
	The January 6th rioters are the same as the people who perpetrated the genocide that was the Holocaust.
	Do you think that you can deal normally with these people?
	That this is just politics?
	They're calling you mass murderers, or potential mass murderers.
	You can't negotiate with these people.
	They must be utterly and completely destroyed politically.
	What are you doing to affect that?
	Are you sitting at home complaining?
	Or are you actually active?
	Are you running for local office?
	Are you part of somebody's campaign to run for local office?
	I don't care if it is the local library board.
	You cannot allow these people to maintain power and control because they will send you to a camp.
	If they think you're a Nazi capable of genocide, what do you think they're going to do to you if they have power forever?
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	I was on this lady's podcast at CPAC and I so enjoyed it with her fellow colleagues that I said, Hmm, maybe we should get you on my national radio show.
	She is the CEO of AMAC, Rebecca Weber, and her colleague, the Senior Vice President of AMAC Action, Andy Mangione.
	Welcome, both of you.
	Happy Friday!
	Thank you, Dr. Borger.
	It's great to be with you.
	My pleasure to be here, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you.
	All right, Rebecca, I just talked about in the last segment what you're doing for your members and now how you're helping them to find out, you know, a decent Medicare supplement program.
	And I'm going to ask you a really stupid, naive question.
	What has politics got to do with Medicare or Medicaid or supplement programs?
	Why are we seeing politics being injected in there?
	Very good question.
	There is another organization, they're a behemoth, the AARP, and they're known for offering a Medicare supplement to their members, but there's a huge difference between AARP and AMAC.
	People can learn more about us at amac.us.
	Here's the difference, Dr. Gorka.
	We offer multiple choices, but AMAC is an advocacy group as well via AMAC Action.
	AMAC represents over 2 million patriots across America.
	And our members love what we represent, what we stand for.
	We do a lot of work on Capitol Hill.
	The AARP, a lot of people don't know this, they've got a leftist agenda.
	Additionally, their Medicare plan that they offer is endorsed by them with one carrier.
	So we offer so many choices.
	We've got over 40 licensed individual agents that work right here at our AMAC office.
	They work across all 50 states and they don't just offer one plan.
	So, you know, if you want to work with people who are really fighting to preserve the great values that make this country great, we're telling people.
	There's a choice.
	That choice is AMAC.
	So let me just... This is stunning that, you know, the 800 pound guerrilla in the room gives you all the choice of one.
	One provider that they have a very cozy relationship with, I'm sure.
	And then you actually give your members and those who called you up an actual choice and advise them without politics.
	Is that right?
	That is exactly right.
	That is exactly right.
	And you deal with the same wonderful licensed agents.
	So when you call back throughout the time that you're with us, you're going to deal with the same agents.
	So we really personalize the service.
	It's so important.
	Medicare is confusing, a lot of moving parts, and we don't high pressure salespeople.
	We're really here to give advice, you know, and help people with the choices that are available to them.
	So I'm so proud of that service.
	It really is one.
	All right.
	Find out more.
	AMAC.US slash value.
	That's AMAC.US slash value.
	You said it's super complicated.
	You guys can help.
	Your licensed advisors can help.
	I don't want to complicate things for our millions of listeners right now, but we're moving from AMAC to AMAC Action.
	Andy Mangione, what is AMAC Action?
	AMAC Action is the advocacy affiliate of the Association of Mature American Citizens.
	We're a C4 not-for-profit and our job is to lobby Congress, is to lobby state legislatures on behalf of our members.
	And I'd like to add, Dr. Gorka, that it's our members who set our legislative agenda.
	So we're taking their concerns as dictated by them to the halls of Congress in Washington, D.C.
	and in state legislatures throughout the country.
	Alright, and lobbyist is usually a dirty word.
	Why are you guys the good guys?
	Because, you know, I could spend hours, if I sat down with you, if I sat down with Rebecca, because I've been shocked just listening to you on your show about just how left-wing, and to use want of a better word, woke, the AARP is.
	So are you trying to balance that?
	What is the goal of AMAC Action?
	The goal of AMAC Action is to represent our members, is to give voice, give a platform to conservative Americans who are age 50 plus.
	And we also mobilize them.
	We prefer to view ourselves, Dr. Gorka, as advocates rather than lobbyists.
	It's not illegal for a lobbyist to campaign or to contribute money to a political campaign.
	We don't do any of that.
	We don't exchange any money with any campaign.
	We walk into an office, a congressional office.
	Rebecca, obvious question to you.
	Everybody sees this brand AARP and they think, oh, I've heard of that one before.
	Surely that's just the easiest thing to do.
	political agenda. All right Rebecca obvious question to you everybody sees
	this brand AARP and they think oh I've heard of that one before surely that's
	just the easiest thing to do why is that not not the right response? Yes so our
	founder Dan Weber back in 2007 he saw the direction that the country was
	headed in 2009 In 2009, we went national.
	We see that the moral compass of this company is going in a bad, bad direction.
	And so if people are for smaller government, if people are for keeping spending under control, people are for law and order, giving parents their parental rights and grandparents the ability to engage with their children without high pressure.
	Some of the things that the other organization are promoting are shocking, like family-friendly drag shows.
	Our members are against that altogether.
	So we have a number of things that we're focused on, including election integrity.
	We're looking at ways to lower the cost of prescription drugs.
	And we've had so many successes in many different areas, including on the parental rights front, on the election integrity front, Uh, so we are very proud of what we've done.
	People can look at our annual report and see the great work.
	None of this would be possible without our members.
	We have incredible engagement and it's so easy for people to get engaged.
	Very, very easy.
	And I also want to encourage people to download the AMAC News app because we've got great political news that you just won't find in mainstream with incredible writers, original content.
	So it's another great The benefit of being a member, all for $16 a year.
	That's fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.
	There is no such thing as a family-friendly drag show.
	Thank you very much.
	God bless both of you.
	Go right now to amac.us.
	And if you don't want to be spoon-fed your choices, and if you want real choices, it's amac.us slash value.
	Thank you so much, Andy.
	Thank you, Rebecca.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Guys, when we've got something like that we haven't done before, we've got to check it before the show.
	We can't have one guest 20 feet away from the camera, one 2 inches away from the camera.
	Alright?
	Alright.
	Just do a rehearsal before the show.
	What'd you want to call that Scarborough segment?
	January 6 as the Holocaust question mark exclamation mark.
	If there's one 1930s era event January 6 should be compared to, it's the Reichstag.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	Oh, it's the E segment already.
	goodness.
	I'm going to give you a few minutes to think about it.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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	Eric, did you just say, is this the E-block already?
	That's another one of those hours that just flew by the speed of Trump.
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	Because one of the things that makes PhD work is the counsellor that you check in every week.
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	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, whatever you're doing, do not touch that dial.
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	Alright, I'm gonna tee up cut 4.
	Tee up cut 4.
	Did I plug myself in?
	No, I didn't.
	Um, oh.
	Can you hear me now?
	Barron!
	Yep, there we go.
	Here I am!
	Where are you?
	I'm actually in D.C.
	today, but running between meetings, so I don't want to chance it and be late.
	Got it.
	All right.
	60 seconds.
	Standby.
	Got it.
	60 seconds, stand by.
	Oh, yeah.
	Got it.
	...for the Chris Hayes.
	Oh yeah, today is a special anniversary.
	It's the anniversary of the single greatest social media post that President Trump ever made.
	Oh yeah?
	The Taco Bowl post.
	Oh my gosh, you're obsessed with that.
	That is my favorite thing he has ever posted online.
	It's not even close.
	Car fire.
	You mean it's better than Gorka wins?
	That was pretty good too.
	I don't think so.
	The Taco Bowl is just so perfect.
	It's a grin he has in that photo.
	The subway got hurt, guys. It just came.
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	on the New York subway. Mr. G, what have you heard on the wires? In addition to
	punching the 67 year old female, he was also arrested for attempting to kidnap a
	seven-year-old girl he was seen dragging down the street.
	So the homeless person committed attempted kidnapping of a seven-year-old girl.
	Yeah, good guy.
	Yeah, clearly, clearly a good guy.
	We will keep you updated.
	The identity of the Marine has also been revealed.
	We provided that to you in the last hour.
	Let us stay on the question of the insanity in this nation today coming from the left that sees Defunding the police as a good thing.
	We have Chris Hayes MSNBC on the recent January 6 convictions play cut for.
	They've now moved or run up the ladder to the organized self-proclaimed militia groups and prosecuted them successfully for judicious conspiracy.
	What about the man who incited insurrection in the first place?
	The man these militias believed they were acting on behalf of when they tried to overturn the results of a freer and fairer election by force.
	Because make no mistake, Donald Trump is running for president a third time in order to finish the job he started on January 6th, when he almost ended free and fair elections in this country.
	The man who incited all of that violence, well here we have the proof, it's cut 11, here is the incitement to violence.
	I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
	Yeah.
	Funny how they never play that cut.
	When is it ever going to end?
	Let's talk to the man who advises my former boss.
	He's my former White House colleague.
	You can follow him everywhere.
	Boris EP.
	Boris Epstein on social media.
	BorisEP.com.
	The Baron.
	Happy Friday.
	Happy Friday, my friend.
	It's an honor to be with you in the audience.
	I know it's naive and I should know better because I've stood in the arena with you, Boris.
	Are they ever going to stop this insanity?
	When are they going to give President Trump a break?
	We can't expect any breaks, my friend.
	You're totally right there.
	The insanity continues.
	The insanity grows.
	And why?
	Because President Trump continues to dominate the political spectrum.
	I mean, now the polling is he's in the 60s.
	The next pretender is in the 20s.
	President Trump is by far and away the favorite in the GOP primary and overall is beating Biden by almost 10 points in the polls as well.
	The American people want a strong southern border.
	They want a robust economy.
	They don't want banks failing.
	They don't want crooked, pathetic Joe Biden in the White House anymore.
	Yeah, and allegedly the announcement may be imminent from the governor of Florida.
	How does that change any of the calculations when it comes to you, the campaign?
	President Trump has a rally next weekend, correct?
	Yes, there's a major rally in Iowa next Saturday.
	He's got a town hall this coming Wednesday in New Hampshire with CNN.
	President Trump bringing his message All over the country, to all outlets, to all spectrums.
	Because why?
	Because President Trump is going to be the president for all Americans, just like he was when he was in the White House.
	And if you look at how strong and respected our country was during the Trump presidency, and how disrespected and derided it is now, the contrast couldn't be clearer.
	And in terms of the Florida governor, well, if he wants to make a mistake, let him make the mistake.
	He's already plummeted in the polls.
	Terrible.
	No good.
	Awful.
	Overseas trip.
	And continues to expose himself and, frankly, embarrass himself.
	So, if he were smart, the Florida governor would not run, would endorse President Trump and wait his turn.
	Announcing now seems very, very peculiar.
	Let's look at the current incumbent in the White House, James Comer.
	The congressman had this to say about, well, the criminal cartel that is the Biden family.
	Cut eight.
	Play cut.
	And one of the things that continues to come up with the people that we communicate with in the Department of Justice, in the FBI, the people that are in what I would consider the deep state, they say the same thing.
	These people know the Bidens are corrupt.
	But their hatred for Donald Trump far outweighs anything that would matter with respect to national security and that would matter with respect to determining whether or not Joe Biden is compromised because of all the money he's taken from our adversaries around the world.
	They hate Donald Trump.
	And the most important thing to our intelligence community was defeating Donald Trump to protect the Bidens or anyone else.
	Almost every day, Boris, we hear things from Chairman Jordan, from Congressman Comer.
	Does any of it really matter?
	You've been a strategic advisor and a senior advisor to numerous campaigns, you've worked in the White House.
	As long as the DOJ is in the hands of corrupt Democrats, is this all theatre or is it important?
	It's important because it's continuing to expose the corruption and the crooked nature of Joe Biden and his crime family.
	They've been profiteering off the American people for decades.
	Biden has been wrong on every national security decision for half a century now, and that's according to Obama's Secretary of Defense.
	The Bidens are dangerous to America, and all of this information, including the pay-to-play allegations, the bribery allegations, Everything that's coming out only exposes them further.
	Earlier today, the President had this to say at the White House.
	Cut one, play cut.
	You know, I think we've got a lot of work to do.
	And I'm doing a major press conference this afternoon, so I love you all, but I'd like to ask you to leave Swinging Town a business.
	Reporters trying to sneak in some questions as they're escorted out of the room at the White House, the President of the United States saying, this is news to us that he would have a press conference later today and answer more questions.
	We'll get you more information on that as we get it.
	1221, the President says, guys, I love you all, but I got to get out of here because I'm prepping for a really Big announcement this afternoon, after which they were escorted out of the room and immediately the press staff of the White House had to correct the President and say, no, no Joe, there's no big announcement.
	How can this man run, Boris?
	Yeah, he can now run.
	Let me ask you some of this question.
	Would you trust Your children, grandchildren, loved ones, in a car driven by Joe Biden.
	I've said this before, I wouldn't let him walk my dogs, Boris.
	Well, there's your answer.
	And I think that's the answer that an overwhelming majority of Americans are giving.
	If they looked honestly at this person occupying the White House, They would say that they do not want him anywhere near the levers of power of our country.
	Our country is in great distress.
	Everything from what's going on in Ukraine to what's going on with China and Russia and Iran.
	We are in a disaster zone.
	And Joe Biden is the one that's supposed to lead us out of it. That is a joke and it is a dangerous one.
	Are you surprised by the reports this week, Boris, that it was Jill Biden that told Joe
	that he has to run for a second term? No, because the Biden family,
	the Biden crime organization will do anything to hold on to power. And, you know, Dr. Joe Biden is
	not a real doctor, but even she should be able to see what's going on with her husband.
	And it seems like they just don't care.
	They put this doddling mess of a shell, of a bad, let's be honest, corrupt senator, and they continue to prop him up and try to fool the American people into having him, quote unquote, lead our country for four more years.
	That is an absolute affront to Americans, and it's a huge danger to America and our people.
	Well, I know we've caught you between very important meetings.
	We're going to let you go to those meetings.
	Say hello to the boss.
	And don't forget to follow this man right now, BorisEP.com, Senior Advisor to the Trump 2024 campaign and Attorney to President Trump.
	God bless you, Boris.
	And I want to see some photographs of cigars this weekend, OK?
	Will do, my friend.
	God bless you, your family, and your audience.
	Thanks for having me.
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	When I accidentally talk over a cut, does it go out?
	Oh no, it did not in that case.
	Oh good, alright.
	When does the sedition charge...
	When do they charge Trump with sedition?
	Mm-hmm.
	My pillow.
	My pillow.
	I've got to play cut ten at some point.
	She is this segment, yep.
	Play me cut 2 again.
	Two.
	Guys, this is so funny and bizarre.
	Look at that.
	That is a Bud Light.
	That is every single Bud Light stand here in San Francisco.
	Can you get Cassio to post that now?
	Oh, sorry, you're dialing.
	Sorry.
	Oh, she's not Skype?
	No.
	She's moving.
	Everybody's got a stinking excuse.
	It's like... If Yvette can do it from his bus... Seriously.
	90 seconds. Play... come in with nine. Come in.
	I suppose so.
	I'm going to bring everyone down.
	That's what I've been doing.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	Yes!
	I'm gonna bring everyone down. That's what I've been doing.
	Yes!
	What do you mean suppose so?
	What do you mean suppose so?
	That's an un-American attitude.
	I'm sorry. Yes.
	Yes! I am!
	Yes!
	Yes! There you go.
	Alright.
	How are you?
	Tired. And I have to travel tonight, so...
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I just have to go to Orlando for a station event, so... So... In and out, in and out.
	It's got 930 seconds. All right, stand by Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, when I speak with small business owners, they really care about what's donating
	to your organization.
	They care about what other businesses are doing in your area or are doing when you begin
	to do it.
	And I think that's a really important thing to understand.
	They're small business owners also.
	But we'll go with whatever you like.
	Small business owners are entrepreneurs.
	You mean a small business owner can also be an entrepreneur?
	She actually said that three weeks ago!
	She's doing it again.
	Why is she standing in front of a row of lettuce?
	Eric, are those members of her family?
	I'm confused.
	Maybe her new favorite color is green.
	We know she loves yellow and now she really likes green, maybe.
	Entrepreneurs are also businessmen.
	Wow, incredible.
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	Alright, we've been talking her up a storm all week, even with her boss at American Greatness.
	It's about time we got her on the show.
	It's been too long.
	Julie Kelly, greetings.
	Hey, Fab.
	Happy Friday.
	Thanks for having me on.
	Happy Friday.
	Happy Friday.
	All right.
	You have to educate us very rapidly in the next few minutes on the article we discussed yesterday with Chris that you wrote at Am Greatness.
	Proud boys found guilty Because this is the case that implicates Trump not truthfully with evidence but in the eyes certainly of the DOJ and special counsel Jack Smith.
	So I have no doubt after these convictions have been announced that Jack Smith is using the guilty verdict and the
	evidence that was collected to pursue a similar charge seditious conspiracy.
	So the January 6th special counsel is going to build his case against
	President Trump on what happened to the Proud Boys? He's already been building it.
	I mean, he was appointed in November.
	I use air quotes around Jack Smith because basically they took all the investigators and prosecutors already investigating Trump for January 6th and just kind of like changed their letterhead.
	So he's simply a figurehead, as we saw with Robert Mueller.
	But at any rate, he's already been investigating this since November.
	Vice President Mike Pence testified before Jack Smith's grand jury last week on January 6th.
	This will simply bolster what I expect will be a multi-count criminal indictment handed down by Jack Smith against Donald Trump for his alleged role in January 6th.
	Seditious conspiracy, though, is the heaviest, would be the heaviest charge.
	And explain, because this is such an incredibly rare, if unheard of, charge, what does it mean and what were the Proud Boys actually meant to be guilty of, according to the judge?
	Well, according to the judge, and now according to a jury interview that was posted at Vice, and I've reported this for months, all of the evidence basically are from text messages sent in encrypted group chats, on Telegram, on Parler, of these defendants, five defendants, including Enrique Tarrio, who's the group's leader.
	An unknown number of FBI informants and assets could be in the dozens.
	And other unindicted, unidentified conspirators.
	So they collected 500,000 messages.
	They cherry-picked what they thought were the most inflammatory, presented that to the jury, and as this juror confirmed today, that was the evidence that they used.
	And what evidence like what?
	We're going to blow up Congress or we're going to take over the government?
	What kind of messages?
	Stuff like talking about 1776.
	And, you know, a new revolution, talking about the election that had been stolen, talking about defending people in Washington, D.C.
	who were being attacked by Antifa and BLM, as you know, throughout 2020.
	So it was some inflammatory rhetoric, you know, some bravado, braggadocio, you know, things that, you know, guys that age sort of can be found talking about.
	But some of the text that Even the prosecutors talked about one text where an unidentified poster talks about stacking bodies in front of Capitol Hill.
	That never came from any of these defendants.
	No one knows who posted that.
	It could be an FBI informant.
	It could be some rabble rouser that the government never found out or charged.
	But this is the sort of evidence that was presented to the jury.
	It was inflammatory text messages.
	None of them brought weapons to the Capitol.
	Not one.
	None of them was charged with assaulting a police officer.
	They didn't really even know each other, a few of the defendants, before they went on trial.
	So what did they do?
	They assembled at the Washington Monument.
	They got a bunch of Proud Boys, allegedly from other states.
	They met at the Washington Monument.
	They stopped a food truck on their way, because that's what all good, you know, insurrectionists do.
	You need to fuel up on tacos before you overthrow Congress.
	They went.
	Some of them were at that first breach point where Ray Epps was.
	He actually popped up a number of times in this trial and went inside the building at various points.
	Went inside.
	Only one was charged with vandalizing a window.
	The others were charged with vandalizing a fence.
	But no major damage.
	They didn't call to hang Mike Pence.
	This is simply inflammatory text, and this is what this case was based on, and the jury confirmed it.
	The juror confirmed it today.
	The language is very vague.
	I posted for people on Twitter if they want to see it.
	The jury instruction basically says, you commit seditious conspiracy if you attempt to prevent, delay, or hinder the execution of a law of the United States.
	Now think of how that could apply to basically any political protest in Washington, especially the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing.
	But this is how they're weaponizing both seditious conspiracy and the other common felony, obstruction of an official proceeding.
	Can you just stay on for like five more minutes to explain what the relevance to President Trump is?
	Because this is big.
	Okay, all right.
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	All right.
	Said he's not online.
	So I'll try and call him later.
	Mic's up.
	Julie.
	Yes.
	They played a video of President Trump right before sentencing?
	They played it during closing arguments.
	Closing arguments.
	Incredible.
	They played it numerous times.
	Alright, we'll talk about that.
	Okay.
	It's unreal.
	Three minutes.
	Play cut ten again.
	Cut ten.
	I'm sorry, but I've seen some of the parents that live in Virginia.
	You should not have, um, be dictating what your daughter and son's curriculums look like.
	If you want to do that, there's a thing called homeschool.
	Indoctrinate them there.
	But not in my kid's public school.
	So please go vote for Terry.
	Please and thank you.
	Vote.
	I wonder how many kids she has.
	Yeah.
	PhD.
	PhD, okay.
	Oh, and play cut seven again.
	I need to see the whole of that.
	A big part of these conversations have to be men.
	We have to do it.
	I was pleased when President Biden was standing up for women's rights in the Canadian Parliament.
	Guys, men, have to have conversations with their boys.
	My 15-year-old son, who spends too much time on the internet, and I know the kinds of things that are out there, the sneaky misogynism that sort of slips through in workout videos and bro videos.
	Having those conversations are way more difficult for me than having just the basic birds and
	the bees conversations.
	Why does he have a QAnon pin?
	Bring the Skype up.
	Did you see the QAnon pin?
	Hey Jim, it's saying video's not available.
	Are you able to enable that?
	Oh, yeah, I'm looking to see.
	Oh, yeah, okay, I see it.
	How's that?
	That's not a QAnon pin, is it?
	Well, it looks like one.
	Just a minute missing the tail, look at it.
	It looks like a doughnut in American flag.
	The letter Q is illegal now.
	According to FOBs.
	The letter Q is illegal.
	The James Bond character will be cancelled imminently.
	You gotta have a sense of humour.
	Alright, wanna come in with something?
	Um...
	How long have we got with this one?
	It's a short one.
	It's a C. We could play the Trump cut again, just for good measure.
	Yeah, come in with that.
	That's good.
	Come in with Trump, peacefully.
	20 seconds.
	And we've reached it.
	Yep.
	I know you're going to be like, what?
	I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully
	and patriotically make your voices heard.
	Yeah, that's the definition of an insurrection, peacefully and patriotically marched.
	Breaking news, we mentioned two days ago that Vice has declared bankruptcy, that gutter cesspit of fake journalism.
	Oh, guess who bought it?
	This is from Charlie Kirk four hours ago.
	Yeah, George Soros has bought Vice.
	When is a conservative billionaire going to take the culture war seriously?
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	That video of President Trump saying to everyone be peaceful...
	Was that used in the court to defend, for example, the members of the Proud Boys?
	It was not used in court.
	What was used in court during the final arguments?
	The clip used during final arguments and at other points during the trial is a clip of Trump during the September 2020 presidential debate.
	When, after being goaded by Chris Wallace and Joe Biden to denounce white supremacist militia groups, Joe Biden said, basically, denounce the Proud Boys.
	So Trump said, OK, Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.
	That was the clip that was played by Assistant U.S.
	Attorney Connor Mulrow last Monday.
	I was in the courtroom and that was the first clip that they played.
	So this is the way, this is now set up the roadmap So they're going to use the seditious conspiracy convictions to connect the seditious conspiracy allegations to President Trump.
	That's right.
	And, you know, today the press release issued by the Department of Justice mentions that clip also.
	There's no need to mention that clip, except as a warning shot to Team Trump that this is what's coming for them.
	The date of the conspiracy, according to the government, started on December 19th of 2020.
	That, coincidentally, is the same day that Donald Trump posted the tweet to come to Washington on January 6th, quote unquote, will be wild.
	That also was used.
	As part of the government's argument.
	So this is why this is headed towards Donald Trump.
	He's going to be indicted.
	There's no doubt on several charges.
	But now these convictions have really accelerated or increased the chance that he'll be indicted on this as well.
	You go to the courts, you listen to the proceedings.
	I have to ask you, when you see these prosecutors do these Stalin-esque, Stasi-type tactics, are they evil or are they just drones?
	What sense do you get?
	I mean, I'm disgusted by them.
	I really am.
	It's just shocking to me that they do what they do.
	But look, the villains here are the DC judges.
	And D.C.
	U.S.
	Attorney Matthew Graves, who attended the closing arguments.
	The entire set of seats behind the prosecution was filled with top DOJ officials, including Matthew Graves, which is another sign of how important this is to the government.
	So, yes, I have just full contempt for them.
	For this Department of Justice, this FBI, and especially the judges who allow this to happen, withhold evidence from the jury and even defense attorneys and defendants, violate their due process rights, presumption of innocence, attorney-client privilege protections, everything that we assume and we expect to happen, especially in the nation's capital legal and judicial system, It's a banana republic.
	I mean, I'm not overstating it.
	I see what these people are capable of, and that's why I truly believe with all my heart, unfortunately, that this will be Trump's state as well.
	We shall see.
	Many have tried to take him down and every single one of them have failed.
	Julie Kelly, chin up.
	Keep doing what you do.
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	I wish they would have done it last night so it would have been Star Wars related, but... Yeah, because you would have dressed up as a Jedi, right?
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	But I think, I think there's another platform out there.
	What's it called?
	Oh yes, the Kalashnikov!
	And who is one of the legends in the industry when it comes to making a silk purse out of a pig's ear?
	I'm not insulting any pig's ears out there.
	It is, of course, Jim Fuller of Fuller Phoenix.
	Welcome back to America First, brother.
	Thank you, sir.
	It's good to be here.
	You know what, when a guy is really cool is when you can give them no warning, fly 3,000 miles and just rock up at his office and say, hey, dude, I'm in Phoenix.
	Can I come and see you?
	And you actually said yes, and you let me in.
	Yeah, funny how that works.
	I know, I know.
	Not everybody would do that.
	Not everybody would be so cool.
	You showed me round this amazing facility, your workshop, full of Phoenix, where you customize and make incredible modern Kalashnikovs.
	Let's show some of the photographs.
	There we are with the individual who will join us for the manhood hour.
	That's Travis Haley, your colleague and your partner.
	Oh, and this picture.
	Stop here for a second, Eric.
	I think this is the only underfolder Krinkov on the planet.
	Is that a statement of fact?
	No, there's more.
	No, no.
	Underfolders?
	Underfolders?
	Actually, I believe that was the first issue.
	The first one that came out had an underfolder on it, if I'm not mistaken.
	Well, there we go.
	There we go.
	Keep going with the pictures.
	Let's show everybody.
	There's Jim.
	There's me.
	And then, will you explain what I am holding in this picture here?
	That is a Yugoslavian M84 PKM machine gun, but then somewhat modified and upgraded by me.
	And it's probably the greatest GPMG ever, in my opinion.
	General purpose machine gun, basically an upside down Kalashnikov in its mechanism, correct?
	Exactly what it is.
	That's why it works so well.
	When am I going to get to shoot it?
	Next time you come out.
	No problem.
	We could have done it this time, but it was kind of a short notice.
	You didn't have time for the range.
	Come on.
	I gave you 15 minutes heads up.
	Come on.
	I thought you were flexible.
	Look at this.
	This is what this man built for me.
	I do believe it is one of the rarest firearms on the planet.
	It is a 300 blackout calibred Galil pistol.
	Very easy for you to turn into 300 blackout, right, Jim?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	That was a challenge, that gun.
	It was kind of fun.
	And it is a fun little gun and that is why who you are, why you have the reputation you are.
	So tell our three and a half million listeners right now across the nation, where did your love affair with this platform begin and why the Kalashnikov?
	Just because it's the most dependable rifle I've really ever seen, you know.
	The gun will perform under just about any, any, the worst of conditions.
	It's just, it was made to work and it just always does.
	It requires very little maintenance.
	Back in the day, when I first got involved with the Kalashnikov, they were actually very inexpensive.
	You could buy one for $200 and the ammo is four or five cents a round.
	So it was a plinker's dream for a young guy who didn't, you know, was on a budget, but not so much that way today.
	Those things are quite expensive today and you know, a lot harder to get due to Politicians.
	Yeah, there's a lot of politics involved.
	People who think you can be a pro-gun and not talk politics don't know what they are talking about.
	I love the Bulgarians.
	I love the 545.
	What is the situation now in the market?
	What is the future?
	A lot of people worried about the, you know, the ban of Russian ammunition for the AKs.
	Where do you see the future for the AK in America, Jim?
	Well, I don't see that as a problem as far as the ammo.
	There's people tooling up to make it.
	We've been making 7.62 ammo here for a long time, and we're still getting it in, even after they said, you know, you're a capitalist kind of guy.
	There is billions of dollars involved in ammo in this country.
	You think they cut off one country?
	You don't think somebody else is going to find a way to get it from another?
	That's what we always do.
	We're Americans.
	We find a way.
	And you have found a way to take this Really genius piece of engineering from Sergeant Kalashnikov and kind of updated for the modern world.
	You're going to be, I don't want to steal your thunder, you're going to be announcing some super exciting things in the coming months out of Fuller, Phoenix.
	Follow this man at Fuller AK.
	What is the most important thing?
	When you start with a standard, bog standard AK, where do you begin making it a little bit more modern?
	Give us the Fuller approach.
	Well, the first thing you do is you leave the center of it alone, because that's perfection.
	But you work on everything else around it, you know, new furniture, new stocks, new front ends, barrel, barrel treatments, being able to suppress it, there's a lot of things you can do to make the gun to bring it more into the 21st century, like it should be.
	I mean, the gun was designed in the 40s.
	So it's not a modular gun.
	And it's a very hard gun to upgrade like that, you know, the M4 was designed more in the 50s, early 60s.
	So It had a lot more modularity involved in it, and it's really easy to upgrade and change that gun.
	The AK, not so much.
	I've often said it's more like blacksmithing than gunsmithing when you work on these things, because it's a different animal.
	Yeah, less micrometers and more hammers.
	On that note, is there such a thing as an accurate AK?
	Of course there is.
	What is combat effective accuracy?
	Well, this is what I recall from an amazing magazine called Handgunner in the UK when I was a kid that doesn't exist anymore.
	They did in-depth analyses.
	They did this, I don't know, 3,000 word article on the AK and some, but the reviewer said, Everybody bitches and moans about the accuracy of the AK and uh well you know it'll it'll do you know 10 inches at 100 yards and he said yeah uh well how wide is your head i think that's the answer to whether or not an AK is accurate or i can't believe we're out of time
	We're going to discuss more.
	We'll have you back at length.
	Fullerphx.com is the website.
	You've got to check it out.
	Fullerphx, that's FullerPhoenix.com and follow this man at FullerAK and check him out on Instagram because he's very shy on Instagram.
	Very, very shy.
	Very shy.
	God bless you, Jim.
	We'll talk to Travis next.
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	Alright, I don't know where Jeff found this.
	It is striking.
	It is somebody called Jessica Anderson who is running in Virginia to be a delegate who really exemplifies, personifies perfectly what the left thinks about you and the rights you don't have when it comes to your children.
	Jessica Anderson, Delegate Candidate Cut 10.
	I'm sorry, but I've seen some of the parents that live in Virginia.
	You should not have, um, be dictating what your daughter and son's curriculums look like.
	If you want to do that, there's a thing called homeschool.
	Indoctrinate them there.
	But not in my kid's public school.
	So please go vote for Terry.
	Please and thank you.
	Vote.
	Vote like your life depended on it.
	So you don't get to share your values with your children.
	I should be elected and I should get to decide how to indoctrinate your children.
	She actually recorded that on a video.
	That's actually a campaign video.
	I want to play that again, just so you understand who they are.
	If you think, oh, no culture war, they don't want to break up the family, they don't want to denude us of our parental rights, well, you're wrong.
	Cut 10.
	I'm sorry, but I've seen some of the parents that live in Virginia.
	You should not have, um, be dictating what your daughter and son's curriculums look like.
	If you want to do that, there's a thing called homeschool.
	Indoctrinate them there.
	But not in my kids' public school.
	So please go vote for Terry.
	Please and thank you.
	Vote.
	Vote like your life depended on it.
	If you're not watching us, she has those crazy helter-skelter eyes of the crazy ex-girlfriend.
	And if you're talking about education and you want to be a delegate, perhaps you should know what the plural of curriculum is.
	It's not curriculums.
	It's a Latin word.
	And Latin words, when you make them into plurals, have an A at the end.
	Curricula.
	Maybe you're the one who shouldn't have anything to say about any child's education anywhere in America, you lunatic.
	But a perfect example of the left today.
	Next up, an incredible warrior.
	A man who's come back from battle to help our warfighters be more effective and to explain to you what it means to be a man.
	Next, the Manhood Hour, America first.
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	Bye.
	Welcome dear friends. It's that time of the week where we celebrate what it means to be a man and discuss the assault
	on manhood and speak to some very special guests about what they understand it is to be a man and what we're going to
	do with those who call themselves men.
	Call us toxic if we just live up to the classic Western civilization definition of masculinity.
	And today, it's an individual I've known for some time who has an amazing reputation in the community of operators, those who are associated with, work with our armed forces and some of the best of the best.
	And I got to visit his headquarters in Arizona just a few days ago, and we're delighted to have him here on the Manhood Hour.
	Travis Haley, welcome to America First.
	Thanks, Dr. G. Always great to be on the show.
	All right.
	Well, you're an incredible host.
	I was in the desert for a suppressed machine gun shoot with my buddies from Recall Magazine on my way to an event for Salem in California.
	And then I realized, oh yeah, there's this guy who's working on my AK-74 called Jim Fuller.
	And I think I think he's around here somewhere.
	And then I said, can I just pop in on you?
	And not only did he allow me to visit his workshop, but this amazing facility wrapped around it, which is Haley Strategic.
	Well, we'll talk about that.
	We'll talk about Jim.
	But first, for those who are unfamiliar with you, your background with the Corps, will you tell us a little bit about your journey in life and what you did wearing the cloth of the Republic?
	Oh, wow.
	OK.
	So I'll try to keep that as short as I can.
	Hey, we've got the luxury of time here.
	So, you know, just pretend you're trying to impress a woman at a bar.
	Just tell us everything.
	That's been a while.
	Okay.
	I think it comes down to, you know, I grew up listening to my father's and my grandfather's blood-soaked horror stories of Korea, World War II.
	And, you know, for most people that might scare to death, it drove me.
	It created a purpose.
	It created curiosity into that world.
	And so as a very young age, probably nine years old, I knew I wanted to serve in the military.
	And by the age of 13, I knew exactly what I wanted to do.
	And that was to become a force recon Marine.
	So I, uh, I set out on that journey and, you know, I love the notion and, uh, of, of the posters on my walls of what it would be like to fall from the heavens as a halo, you know, free fall, um, um, parachutist, and then, You know, I emerged from the depths of the oceans as a combat diver to slice the enemy's neck, you know, as a kid.
	And I ran through the woods every single day.
	My mom and dad thought I was probably a little crazy.
	But I joined.
	I had a full football scholarship to play for the University of Florida as a defensive end, and I turned it down and joined the Marine Corps at 17 years old.
	Because that just wasn't my path.
	I had this different purpose, and that was to serve, you know, the people that I cared about in this free country.
	And so I set out on that journey and spent 15 years in the Marine Corps, total time between my active duty and some reserve time.
	And most of that time was in the force reconnaissance community.
	And then I Started to look for other opportunities and in the special
	operations community and continue to climb the ladder of excellence there
	and went over to start getting into the contracting world and
	to try to start working for other government agencies and Multiple combat tours from Somalia as an 18 year old kid to
	the Balkans to multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan
	West Africa and a couple times in So between 10 and 14 trips overseas in combat operations.
	And meanwhile, I was always a tinker.
	I was always somebody building things out at sea on the ships.
	I'd be working in the machine shops or the peril lofts learning how to sew.
	Yeah, we'll discuss your special relationship to dental floss a little bit later in the show.
	But talk to us, for those who aren't, I love the Marine Corps, it's my favorite of the services, don't tell anybody else.
	I spent two and a half years at the crossroads in Quantico teaching the devil dogs.
	But for those who aren't familiar with the Corps and the special part of it you served in, what is, you know, the recon?
	Talk to us about the difference between the raiders, force recon, and what kind of jobs you had to do.
	Sure.
	The, you know, the force recon community is a very quiet community.
	You know, there's the term silent professional.
	I don't believe in that.
	I believe in quiet professionals.
	You know, we need to speak about what we do.
	So, first of all, for recruiting, because the force reconnaissance community, as it stands right now, is hurting to get people in because we don't have movies.
	We don't have books.
	The Marine Corps kind of shies away from those things.
	Let me just drop in there.
	It's so weird that there are some parts of the community that fall under Special Operations Command or MARSOC or the guys over the fence.
	Some parts that I'm very familiar with never talk about it.
	They just do it.
	They don't go and write the book.
	And then there are other elements.
	The Seals, who think that they get to be movie stars after they take off their uniform.
	People don't appreciate the different cultures within the U.S.
	military.
	It's hard.
	There's a lot of inner competition, rivalry, hatred.
	You're supposed to be a Silent professional, which is why I don't like that term.
	I think we should talk about the things that we do, as men, are capable of in defending this great nation.
	But I think, yeah, some people go a little too far and start to speak about things to potentially even uncover, you know, classified information and the way we do things.
	You know, we have to be a little careful there.
	And so, you know, that's where the force recon community has never really been able to speak about it because the Marine Corps has always kept a pretty tight lid on that.
	I mean, even the movie that I grew up on with Heartbreak Ridge and Clint Eastwood in 1986 about recon Marines, the Marine Corps did everything in their power to try to shut it down and said it doesn't represent the Marine Corps recon Marines the way it should.
	And they're right to a point, you know, the Marine Corps had a fight in that, but I'm glad it came out because that's one of the things that made me go, wait, what is that?
	And it piqued my curiosity and that's why I went that direction.
	And today, we'll talk about the amazing experience you provided for me.
	You took me through a simulation of a school shooting in this incredible lab you have at Haley Strategic.
	But downstairs, you have this huge factory of people making things.
	Tell us a little bit about the product.
	So, you know, one of the things you and Jim sent me, I'm very, very grateful to you.
	is a plate carrier.
	Let's put up this, I think it's one of the most beautiful plate carriers I own today.
	Here's a camouflage version of one.
	You sent me a, what is it, multi-cam that one.
	It is so high speed, it's so sexy.
	I mean, you could just wear it with a dinner jacket.
	What kind of stuff are you making for our operators today, Travis?
	We have a wide range of capabilities and that's something that I've always grown up around in the military.
	That's again going back to the reconnaissance culture.
	We call ourselves jacks.
	You have to be jacks of all trades because there's very few of us and you have to master everything.
	Standing on a ramp at 30,000 feet in the middle of the night with oxygen weighing 390 pounds about to drop into darkness in somewhere you've never been before, you can't just half-ass that.
	Just do it good enough.
	So we pride ourselves on the fact of mastering those things, whether it be sniping or, you know, surveillance or direct action or hostage rescue or high altitude freefall operations, combat diving, and the list goes on and on and on.
	And I just love that world.
	And I think that's one of the reasons why we also have a problem with recruitment.
	But I brought that into to my life and my business.
	And so we are making everything from soft goods because I love to sew.
	I started that at a very early point in my career in the military, trying to fix the equipment that was subpar or didn't meet my requirement.
	And so I would pull out a box of dental floss, like we laughed about a second ago, and I would start with that and a needle.
	And then that turned into stealing time on sewing machines at night on the ships when nobody was around.
	And breaking the Navy's sewing machines, right?
	It was.
	I'd go into the parachute lofts and sneak in on the sewing machines until I'd get in trouble because I didn't know how to use them.
	And the guys were like, well, if we're going to steal our machines, we might as well teach you how to use them.
	And then the next thing I knew, I was sewing everybody's equipment on the ship and fixing things all night long and testing it.
	And then it turned into a passion.
	And I realized I could make a difference in another way, not just fighting, but also helping develop equipment.
	You showed me some stuff like the rocket pack that the Marine Corps is using.
	I've never seen equipment so well made in my life.
	I mean the attention to detail, the people we saw their hands stitching it in your facility
	are truly remarkable.
	Let's talk about manhood.
	We'll get there in a second.
	We've touched upon it.
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	All right, Travis, let's talk about the topic at hand.
	I've got a couple of questions I ask all of my guests.
	First things first, is the concept of manhood, of manliness, under assault?
	If so, how serious is the situation?
	Well, I think we could all agree, you know, regardless of what pathway you come from that, yeah, I think we'd all come to the same conclusion that it's absolutely under assault by both sides, right?
	The people that are assaulting us, they absolutely are open about it 100%.
	And us as men, you know, we have to understand that we are absolutely under attack.
	And I think that's the hard thing, right?
	It's like the attack is, it's almost being presented in a way that is helping men.
	We're rescuing you from this over masculine behavior.
	And so men then feel bad, like people are probably already typing on keyboard right now, you know, as they listen to this with hatred saying, how dare you speak of this?
	I hate to say anything that starts with a problem, but I think that's a big part of the problem.
	Men are starting to be groomed.
	They're falling into this trap of, be careful what you say, so they just don't say anything.
	They're afraid to speak out.
	They're afraid to articulate and use their intellect.
	analysis and synthesis of these things and Which is okay?
	I get a part of the definition of divine masculine and so we need to stay on top of that and continue to fight
	against This otherwise this very small number of people that are
	creating this I mean look at look at how much power the left has right or
	the right has you know with with just a little bit Look at the trans issues that we have, the sexual issues that we have now.
	It's an incredibly small population of people that, just like music, right?
	I heard a concert one time in California, and this singer came out when he was asked, why are you putting out a positive album in such hard times today that's going to affect your business model?
	Look, the world's a beautiful place.
	The problem is, just like music, the bad is louder.
	And so I think we need to step up and stop that now before it gets too big.
	Right?
	Just like, look at the military.
	We'll probably talk about that as well.
	Well, let's talk about it now.
	I mean, you serve the warfighters.
	You've been in combat multiple times in the uniform of the Marine Corps.
	Just three days ago, the U.S.
	Navy, that is, thinks it's the daddy of the Marine Corps, but it's the other way around.
	They launched... Sorry?
	Everybody says it's the Department of the Navy.
	I'm like, well, it's the men's department.
	And for good reason after what we just saw the other day, right?
	Well, yeah, let's play it.
	We've got the B-roll.
	A drag queen hired by the U.S.
	Navy who is wearing the uniform of the U.S.
	Navy.
	A part of me says, this is trolling.
	They're doing this just to piss us off and get a rise out of us.
	You're still in touch every single day with your buddies in the Corps, across the military.
	What are you hearing about how serious this problem is?
	I'm hearing it from my buddies at BRAG, who I've been working with for almost 20 years now.
	Is this serious inside the wire as well?
	It is.
	It's definitely talked about a lot, even though they're not allowed to talk about it in certain places.
	I think the issue as you look at that video, for example, a lot of people don't realize that And may assume, oh, this guy is a petty officer and he's
	doing it on the side.
	And that's okay.
	Well, no, because that still goes against the articles of the ECMJ as far as unbecoming
	behavior, disrespect to the uniform.
	As far as I'm concerned, it's an absolute vulgar disrespect to the naval history of
	our country.
	And so I think you'll hear a lot, a ton of people probably voice the same thing that
	I just did inside the United States military.
	I think, again, it comes down to the small population of people like this petty officer who is behaving in this way to where it's being accepted by higher-ups now that are also leaning to that side. Because if you notice one of the
	images in that video you just showed, it's literally he's doing a
	demonstration in a drag, whatever they call it, on the ship.
	That's on ship and there are sailors standing around and watching this show.
	I wouldn't be standing there. I'll be honest with that. And I guarantee there's a lot of other people that, so the ones
	that are, I would consider the cancer. Sorry.
	People can love me or hate me for saying that, but if you had a box of a million people, let's say, just to put a general number on the military, and I infect it with a cancer, and it gets through, it's going to start to grow and metastasize.
	I think you're absolutely right, and I'm just going to name names.
	The CNO, the Chief of Naval Operations, is the core of that cancer.
	Admiral Gil Day, who in combat uniform, Published a 12-minute video two years ago, sending it out to the whole fleet, talking about the rampant racism inside the US Navy, pandering to BLM.
	Gil, the head of the fish is rotten, Travis.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	You're absolutely right.
	And I think back to my career in the military, especially on the Marine side of the house, is racism a thing in the military?
	Of course it is.
	It's everywhere in the world, but it's so tiny.
	It's so minute.
	Even when I was in boot camp in the early 90s, you weren't a black Marine, you weren't a Mexican Marine, you weren't a white Marine, you were a light green or a dark green Marine.
	That's how they called it.
	So everybody was the same tinge of color, right?
	And so we started that way.
	And I think it's still that way.
	Definitely in the Marine Corps, there's still that concept, even though there's the higher ups now trying to push this just absolute garbage down and saying that that's not
	OK. It's destroying the balance of the divide, masculine and feminine, that every military
	soldier, airman, marine and sailor needs to have to defend this great nation,
	both male and female.
	And it's confusing people to a point where now they're not allowed to say anything and fight back because if they do, they're scrutinized by their own peers.
	And then, of course, you know what happens from there.
	They can potentially be charged under the UCMJ for disrespect.
	Against this type of behavior when in fact, it should be absolutely the other way around Yeah, I think the most important point you just made is that video?
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	Travis, this is perhaps my favorite question of all when we do the Manhoodow with our special guests.
	Share with us who were the most important influences in your life in terms of understanding what a man is.
	Because we've had all kinds of, you know, we've had General Boykin talk about his football coach.
	We've had Jack Carr talk about fictional characters in Tom Clancy novels.
	A lot of people, if they're lucky, talk about their dad.
	Who for you were the formative influences in understanding, yeah, that's what I want to be?
	Well, I would definitely be, you know, one of the lucky ones to say that my father and grandfather, as I mentioned earlier, were inspirational in that they showed me what it, I think, Pathway for me to figure out what it takes to become a man.
	What are the ingredients if you were to look at?
	What what makes a man and they were definitely good at that My mother, my mother was incredible.
	As one example, I love to teach my classes that if my brother and I, who's a colonel in the Marine Corps still almost 30 years, we kind of share the same pathways in life and respect for things and significance.
	And one of those things was if mom was walking up to a door, We had to open it.
	If dad's parking the car and he sees us, you know, scrapping and messing around and not paying attention to mom, we gotta boot.
	You know where.
	But mom was great because she'd just stand there.
	And she would teach us situational and spatial awareness.
	She wouldn't say anything until one of us identified we're about to get our butts whooped, and we'd go for that door.
	So that was something that I grew up on, and then I realized that that is a way that you should treat people.
	Not just because, you know, chivalry or respect, because I know that's a big problem in today's world.
	I've opened doors for even women that will say, I can get the door for myself, thank you.
	And it's like, well, ma'am, I wasn't getting it for you.
	I was actually getting it for myself because every single time I go up to a door and grab it, I look over my shoulder.
	So my father, my grandfather gave me an amazing opportunity with hundreds of thousands of opportunities and repetitions in my life to become situationally aware by being taught to open doors for people, not to just be a gentleman.
	The byproduct of being situationally aware is a gentleman.
	So those little things over my life, I've looked back and said, they absolutely gave me that.
	You know, they gave me the the biggest three tools that I have and that is number one and I share this for everybody I think it's the main ingredients if you have a recipe to make a man that's compassion You know, they definitely showed compassion towards me and I give back to everybody else I possibly can because I believe Unlike some people would say well, what does compassion have to do with being a man or or even warfare?
	You know what?
	I'm speaking in my my world I say it has everything to do with it, because the more you care about something, the harder you're going to fight for it.
	You know, for an example, if somebody broke into your house tonight, Sebastian, and, you know, and they intended harm on you or your family, would you go to the ultimate means of protecting them?
	I guarantee you would, just like I would.
	And if a police officer asked me afterwards, why did you kill that person?
	It would not be because of their evil motive or intent.
	It would be because I care about something so much more precious than that person that decided the wrong house, wrong family that night.
	And that's where the compassion is the foundation of becoming a man that makes you fight for what you believe in, like our personal safety, our family, our communities, our country, the free world.
	That's the most important ingredient that people have forgotten in today's world.
	The second one is vulnerability.
	Do you have the courage to be imperfect?
	My father taught me that every single day.
	My mother was fantastic at it.
	Because if you don't Have the ability to sit there and ask yourself,
	Can I become a better version today than what I was yesterday?
	Then how are you supposed to help the people that you serve?
	Because I think we can all agree that if you're not at your best, that doesn't help anybody.
	I need you to expand on that before you go to the third one.
	So hold that thought.
	That's fascinating that the essence, the second thing to being a man is vulnerability.
	I think that will surprise many.
	We're talking to Travis Haley, founder of Haley Strategic Partners.
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	All right, so vulnerability.
	Vulnerability for, you know, if you ask people at first blush, they think, oh, that's weakness, that's being weak.
	I don't think that's what you're talking about.
	What do you mean by it?
	Well, I think that's a great place to start.
	I get the same response when I go into a place and speak these principles or ingredients of what I believe a warrior or man is.
	And they would say, well, why compassion?
	Why explain that?
	Why vulnerability?
	That means weakness.
	Actually, the definitions are completely opposite.
	They're not even the same realm, as far as I'm concerned, because weakness is the inability to withstand criticism or an attack.
	Vulnerability, however, is the ability to withstand criticism or an attack.
	Meaning that I need to sit on the corner of my bed and go, what can I do better to be a better father?
	What can I do better to be a better husband or a better man in general?
	A better share of information?
	Whatever it might be, that's just simply being vulnerable right there.
	And I think that's a big problem that we have.
	And I'll be honest, I think it's one of the leading causes of the decline of divine masculinity and femininity in our country.
	Because especially the military I get these guys that think you have to be the bearded tattooed Viking warrior that conquers and it's like no You do not have to be that And if you look back and study thousands of years of lawyers like I have and we commit our lives to here every day You'll find that they all had a higher moral code.
	They had honor they had compassion they had these things vulnerability they saw from the equals I perspective and And and then they had this art form that would typically can keep them in that parasympathetic state So if they're not on the battlefield, they're either playing music or they're gardening or they're You know doing some type of artistic thing that that's like the monk You always want to be the monk until it's time to go to war
	I think you probably know him, John Lovell, he calls that and he built his whole empire around the warrior-poet concept that you've got to be the warrior and the poet at the same time.
	So we've got compassion, we've got vulnerability.
	You said there were three things that you need to be a man.
	The third thing I think that kind of As a foundation, right?
	And that's like if I was building a house, what's the foundation to becoming a man?
	I'm not worried about the framing of the roof yet.
	So the foundation for me are these three things.
	Compassion, vulnerability, and the third being seeing the forest.
	And I think seeing the forest gives you the ability to become self-aware.
	It gives you the ability to be situationally aware, spatially aware.
	And Having that uncanny ability to see things before they happen and to always leave yourself a way out, which is a quote that my father always told me.
	And it saved my life many times because it made me think before I just ran across the street.
	It made me think before I pulled that trigger.
	It made me think before a word came out of my mouth that may be catastrophic in some of the situations that I've been in.
	And I think that ability is also being lost in today's world because we're so impulsive in a
	sympathetic world where everything is driven so fast, nobody has time to sit down and just be
	aware of themselves first and foremost, and block out the rest of the noise.
	So there's a whole, I mean, I could talk for hours about what it would entail from seeing that forest.
	But it's extremely important, right?
	If my child comes up and asks me something, I can be impulsive and not care and say, yeah, go ahead and do it.
	Or I can sit down and talk to them and break down what potentially can happen without deterring them from doing dangerous things carefully.
	I think we can continue this discussion at quite some length.
	I want to stick to the time we have allotted today and ask perhaps one of the most important questions we ask our guests here on the Manhood Hour.
	You've given us the big picture, the really big picture question.
	You're a family man, you have lots of children, I believe.
	Give us some of the most important things, beyond the big picture stuff that takes some philosophy and a little bit of understanding.
	What are the most important things we must impart to the young boys of America today that isn't being told to them?
	If there was a curricula of what young boys need to learn, give me a couple of things that are most important.
	Well, I think that answer has probably changed over time because of technology, so the one big thing I'll dive in on is, we as parents, and I think it's not just what we need to just teach the children for them to know, it's for what parents need to know.
	You know, social media, the ability to find as much information in the world as we want at our fingertips nowadays, is awesome, but at the same time, prevents us from actually being informed.
	And, you know, the other night, my kids, I got seven kids, like you said, I got many, and... I wouldn't say many, I would say that's a good start.
	It's a good number.
	Yeah, it's a good number.
	We're doing our job, let's put it that way.
	Yes.
	You know, I said, hey, it's time to get outside and go play with your friends, you know, what I would be told when I was a kid.
	And the answer back is, well, Dad, all my friends are right here.
	So that's one of the biggest issues, I think, from an awareness standpoint.
	You mean, you know, on a handheld device?
	They think that's, right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's like when they go outside, they're literally by themselves.
	And so that's one thing I think that we need to teach our kids is it's okay to be by yourself, number one, because not all your friends are going to go outside anymore.
	And so I make sure that my children have a very limited amount of time on those programs and softwares, whatever it is, to keep their head out of that.
	Because that is absolutely changing their physiology and their psychology.
	And it's grooming them Into this metaverse this world that doesn't exist.
	It's not real and so that's something that I start with is making sure that they have limited screen time and they understand why because I think that's a big problem parents just scream and yell and Say well, I didn't have that when I was a kid what you can't compare, you know the 1980 Atari days to today because we had a procedural memory back then and When video games first came out, I remember sitting there and saying, Oh, this is awesome.
	And then for 10 minutes, I'd be like, Okay, now I'm bored.
	Hey, guys, you want to go outside and play again?
	And we would go outside and play.
	Yeah, where nowadays is completely reversed.
	And so we have to be very careful.
	It's a delicate process, because you don't want your kids to resent you at the same time.
	So I think being there, number one is the number one thing for your children, and they'll identify that you're being there.
	Because there's a lot of parents that passively parent nowadays by just giving them these devices so they can go off and do their work and be successful.
	When I see, you know, at an airport, on a plane, little toddlers with this iPad and they're just stuck in front of them for four, five hours and the parents right next to them.
	There's a reason if you talk to the founders of the social media apps and Facebook and everything else.
	Why they have banned their children from using electronic devices.
	That should tell you something.
	Nobody's mentioned this before on our manhood hour, but that's why we invited you.
	He's Travis Haley and he likes technology.
	You'll hear about how much he likes it in a second.
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	Alright, I have one more big question to ask you, a mandatory question from the manhood hour,
	but first I want to talk a little bit about the things you opened my eyes to when I visited you last weekend in
	Arizona, because you make all this incredible equipment for our warfighters,
	but you're also...
	Kind of exploring the frontiers of combat and science, war fighting and technology.
	You threw me into this school shooting simulation which was absolutely mind-bending in terms of what it taught me in terms of heart rate and dealing with stress.
	Talk to me a little bit about, I mean, and I learned so much about why the weaver stance and why the way we shoot may not be the best thing and why red dots perhaps don't work the way you think they do on firearms.
	We can talk about that at another time for hours.
	But tell me a little bit about why you, as a, you know, a former, you know, ground-pounding marine, jumping out of planes, why you got into this science stuff.
	That's because I don't trust science.
	I interrogate it.
	I question it every single day.
	And I've always been that way as a kid.
	And in the military, I was always a guy in the line that would ask a question and say, Gunnery Sergeant, I'm curious, you know, I've worked with a lot of other teams and competitively shoot, why would we choose this particular grip on a handgun, let's say, or this technique or tactic, when I see a lot of other people doing it completely different?
	And he would say, that's a great question.
	I'll pull you offline and we'll talk about that here in a second to save time.
	Well, what that means is I was going behind the context boxes and getting thrashed for asking what I thought was a good question.
	And what makes a lot of people stop asking those questions, I was I was pretty, I guess, stubborn, you could say.
	And I'd continue to ask those questions, especially when I got into a staff position.
	And I realized that if I'm going to send my men downrange and potentially make the ultimate sacrifice, if necessary, I want them to have the best tools and the best knowledge possible.
	And I think mainly, though, to answer the question, Sebastian, is, you know, many years ago, I had one of the worst shootings in my life in a faraway land.
	I didn't understand.
	It changed my life forever.
	It changed my family.
	It created destruction.
	It created hatred.
	It created all kinds of horrible things because of a lack of knowledge.
	And I realized that's the best place to start.
	And that's why we have our, you know, I guess a catchphrase for, you know, what people have turned it into.
	But it has a meaning and that means think before you shoot.
	Thinkers before shooters is what we always say because I didn't think in my past.
	I wasn't given the information and the equipment and the intellect that I should have had in those situations.
	The worst, most horrible, terrible situation you could ever possibly imagine.
	You would figure we would give our youngest and best and brightest the greatest tools possible.
	And so I decided to step on that commitment and run forward with it.
	From my own trauma, mechanically, I've had, I mean, I'm 100% horribly disabled.
	I've had multiple surgeries.
	And so I'm like, okay, how do I get better?
	So I would start studying sports science and biomechanics and motion capture systems we'd bring in.
	And then I'd say, okay, that feels really good.
	We're starting to get a good handle on that.
	What's the next thing?
	Well, why didn't I see things that I should have been able to see in combat?
	Or why did I see this when I had never expected to see that?
	Started hiring ocular scientists to give us the real answers why and then interrogate them and say well, okay But under combat situations this can happen and we've actually had ocular scientists go Wow, that's something we never experienced because there's no studies of combat stress We're in an indoor gun range or simulation thing and then suddenly you walk to the back and you bring a model of the human eye and you start explaining Yeah, that red dot when you're in combat, you don't even see the red dot on your M4.
	We've taken a lot of your time.
	Can we do a special on all the stuff I learned?
	Let's do another one.
	Let's talk about warrior lessons from Haley Strategic.
	But it's really opened my eyes, and that's why we have to continue the discussion.
	The website is HaleyStrategic.com.
	Let me ask you the last big question that we always ask people here on the Manhood Hour.
	When it comes to everything we've discussed, masculinity, warrior spirit, the warrior poet, the monk, if you will, are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future of manliness in our civilization?
	I think I almost Elon Musk'd you there for a second and said, I don't care about pessimism or optimism.
	I care about getting the job done.
	And I think that's what I'm trying to do every single day is make sure that I educate and, you know, not force anybody.
	But at the same time, yeah, I'm worried.
	I'm definitely worried about the state of this country right now.
	And I think that's why I've went on rants recently to try to talk about we need to come together.
	We're all in the same boat.
	We only have one.
	And there's a lot of cancer in the boat.
	And if you don't bail it out quickly, what happens to the boat over time?
	So, you know, a lot of people are quitting.
	A lot of cops are quitting.
	A lot of military guys are getting out.
	And then my son the other day, who kind of woke me up to this, said, Dad, I'm joining the Marines next year.
	And I was like, my first inclination is to say no.
	And then I said, wait a minute, what's the best answer to get my son right now?
	Because he's the ninth generation in my family.
	That has fought for this country back to the American Revolutionary War, I have all the military documentation.
	And so I had to say, you know what, what's the best way to get rid of the cancer is to put good men with good abilities that understand, you know, the boundaries and accountability, they have compassion, they are vulnerable, which I teach my boys.
	And I said, you know what, who better?
	to do that, to bail that out. So yeah, we do have a problem, but I think we need to stay on top.
	And it starts with parenting strategies, because our youth right now are the ones that are going
	to change this country. My sons are the ones that's going to change this country. And I've
	got six of them out of seven kids. And it scares me, but I think it's necessary to put the good
	people in the right place. That's an amazing answer.
	You can't solve the problem unless you have somebody in there to actually tackle the problem.
	And when it comes to vulnerability, I'm not authorized to say anything more, but on this impromptu visit to your facility, You walked me through as a stranger the story of what happened to you in Africa and I think the story that shaped what you are doing today and it showed real courage and vulnerability at the same time to share that to me and I wanted to say that in front of our millions of listeners and viewers right now that I appreciate your candor
	Travis Haley.
	Let's put a photograph up of these two men who were such gracious hosts to me recently.
	Jim Fuller and Travis Haley at their facility.
	And let's have a light moment to close on.
	If you're a real man, what do you have as your barstools in your office?
	This is what you have.
	This is what I photographed at Travis Haley.
	You've got to have a missile warhead as your barstool support structure because... Because why not?
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This has been a very special edition of the Manhood Hour.

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