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	Misinformation that COVID was spread through surface transmission, that vaccinated immunity was far greater than natural immunity, that masks were effective.
	Now we have the definitive Cochrane review.
	What do you do with that review?
	Cochrane is the most authoritative evidence body in all of medicine and has been for decades.
	Do you just ignore it?
	Not talk about it?
	That myocarditis was more common after the infection than the vaccine.
	Not true.
	It's 4 to 28 times more common after the vaccine.
	That young people benefit from a booster.
	Misinformation.
	Our two top experts on vaccines quit.
	The FDA in protest over this particular issue, pushing boosters in young, healthy people.
	The data was never there.
	That's why the CDC never disclosed hospitalization rates among boosted Americans under age 50.
	The vaccine mandates would increase vaccination rates.
	The George Mason University study shows it didn't.
	That was Dr. Martin McAree yesterday testifying on Capitol Hill with one big message.
	The greatest provider, the source of disinformation, most pernicious during the COVID lockdown was the United States government.
	And you know who explicitly.
	Of course, that little diminutive fascist Anthony Fauci.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Happy, happy... What is it?
	Wednesday?
	Is it the day before CPAC?
	It is indeed!
	We will be at CPAC Thursday.
	We will be at CPAC on Friday.
	But yesterday, if you missed it, we had President Trump on the show for almost the whole of the first hour.
	And Mr. G is very, very angry at me.
	Aren't you, Mr. G?
	No, I was just making a point.
	That was all.
	But I spoke over President Trump's response to this wonderful new nickname you came up with for the governor of Florida.
	You spoke over when he said it's pretty good actually.
	That's high praise coming from President Trump.
	In case you missed it, let's just show a little bit of a fun clip before we get down to work here.
	This is President Trump on the governor of Florida and Mr. G's recommendations.
	Cut 11.
	You made quite a bit of news on Truth Social and on your recent rallies with your new nickname for the governor of Florida, Ron DeSanctimonious.
	Mr. G, somebody else has come up with another nickname.
	What is the nickname you have for us, Jeff?
	It's gotta be Ron DeStablishment.
	Mr. President, Ron DeStablishment.
	What do you think of that?
	That's not bad.
	I've heard worse, you know.
	They came out with lots of different names.
	Meatball, I didn't like that one too much, but they came out with a lot of different names and that's not bad.
	I've heard of worse.
	Are you excited about the primary season?
	I, for one, want to see, you know, like you did before, 16, 17 people up on the stage and the strongest guy wins.
	Are you ready, sir?
	Well, I am ready and I guess we're doing very well because I've already started I would think that Ron is maybe running and, you know, I think it's interesting because he came to me for help.
	He was dead.
	He was gone.
	As you know, for governor, he had no chance when he first ran.
	And he was way behind.
	He was at almost nothing.
	And when I endorsed him, he took a massive lead.
	And a few days later, literally a few days later, won the nomination.
	And then I helped him get by a man who turned out to be a crackhead.
	He was supposed to be the hottest male in the party.
	The female was, of course, Stacey Abrams.
	Those two were the two hot people in the Democrat Party.
	But at the time he was hot, and I did a couple of rallies for Ron.
	We had a fantastic turnout, thousands and thousands of people.
	I said, "You're going to win." He didn't even believe it.
	And then after he ends up winning, they asked him a couple of years later, maybe less, "Would you run against the president?" He said, "I have no comment on that." I said, whoa, that's not supposed to happen.
	But that's the way it is in politics, I guess.
	So, you know, look, Florida has been a very successful state long before he got there.
	And that includes some Democrats that didn't do such a bad job, to be honest with you.
	Right.
	But Florida's been successful long before he got there.
	Very successful.
	We have the sun.
	We have the ocean.
	We have a lot of good things going in Florida.
	That was, I didn't realize, thanks to Eric, the fifth time President Trump has been on the show.
	How do you think he did?
	Eric, what did you think of yesterday's interview?
	It's hard for him to be anything better than absolutely great, but that was easily, probably, the greatest of the five thus far.
	I think we know who Eric's supporting in 2024.
	Mr. G, as a consummate, cold-blooded professional, as the producer of our Enterprise, how did you rate yesterday's performance by 45?
	Now, I re-listened to it last night on the way home.
	Because when you're in here working, you don't take it all in.
	It's hard to pay attention, yeah.
	I actually think it's one of the best interviews he's done in a while.
	He was very focused on point, it was very good.
	Yeah, he actually, you know, there's a rule in interviewing, only answer the question you want to answer, right?
	But yesterday, he answered my question.
	Yeah, I'm going to say not just the best on our show, I think it's the best one that he's done in a while.
	Whoa, there you go.
	Did you hear the best producer in radio said that?
	I'll take that.
	Not as good as Christopher Wray though.
	He lied through his teeth on Bret Baier's show yesterday.
	Not a lot of pushback.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	The number here is 833-33 Gawker.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	8333-GORCA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	But the big news, because you can't keep a good man down, as of 50 minutes ago.
	Where are we, Eric?
	What organization have we defeated?
	We are back, everybody, on YouTube.
	Are you happy, Eric?
	Very excited.
	I don't know if you can hear the excitement in my voice right now.
	Because you built our former YouTube channel, and how many followers, after a few months of work, how many followers were we up to?
	We were at about, I think, 230,000, give or take.
	Yeah, and it was mostly your work.
	So good on you, Eric.
	We never give up.
	We're back.
	You can see the whole of the President's interview, all of it.
	It's almost an hour long at Dr. Sebastian Gorka Official.
	So go to YouTube, Dr. Sebastian Gorka Official.
	You'll see the America First logo and me.
	And the first video, as of just a few moments ago, is our full interview with President Trump yesterday.
	All right.
	Let's get back to work.
	Let's talk about the deep state.
	Those who wish to undermine President Trump.
	Christopher Wray, the... Oh my gosh, how much time have we got?
	That's almost the A Block.
	Let's squeeze in one cut.
	Christopher Wray talking to Brett Baer with a very simple question he can't quite answer about people like Wray Epps and whether there were FBI informants undercover assets on the ground during January 6.
	Cut one.
	Play cut.
	And the other Twitter question we get a lot is, did the FBI have undercover agents or paid informants or assets among the mob that stormed the Capitol on January 6th?
	Well, as I'm sure you can appreciate, Brett, I can't really appropriately talk about when, where, and how we use confidential informants.
	Is it classified?
	Well, we have information that is about any number of topics that is law enforcement sensitive.
	But you should not read into my inability to answer a question because of my obligations as that is a clue or a hint in any way about how accurate your reader's tweet.
	So, Eric, what does that mean?
	My lack of response to the question as to whether we had FBI assets on the ground on January the 6th undercover, what does that really mean?
	That's basically him knowing he can't outright lie, but he obviously doesn't want to tell the truth either.
	Right.
	He can't say, no, we didn't, because he'd be lying.
	And I just, oh, I'm just not going to answer.
	Ray is a disgrace.
	He is an embarrassment to the badge he wears.
	And he needs to be fired as soon as possible.
	It's up to us.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	We have an amazing show for you today.
	We're going to go deep dive on the latest on Wuhan, on the Department of Energy intelligence report.
	What's really going on?
	Fauci's culpability.
	That's in the third hour.
	Never, ever miss any of our one-on-ones.
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	Mic's on.
	mic's on alrighty it is a surreal feeling let me tell you To be back?
	Yeah.
	The Rumble chat has been informed, of course.
	Links have been posted.
	Alright.
	title for that monologue.
	Mr. G has a new, has a Trumpian nickname for Governor DeSantis.
	Oh.
	All right.
	Where did my pen go?
	Want to hear the rest of the cuts?
	Um, we did them all, didn't we?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Let's do, um... Let's do 12, 14, and 15.
	12, 14, 15.
	Yeah.
	Allegedly, the man who is currently serving as the oldest president of the United States wants to run again, which means he would be 82 years old by the time of the next inauguration.
	Your reaction to the news that this man wants to run again?
	Well, I don't think 82 is old.
	I don't think 80 is old.
	I see people, I deal with people that are in their 80s.
	I have people that are in their 90s that you deal with.
	You know, it depends on genetics.
	It depends on a lot of different things.
	But people that are in their 80s, I know people that made most of the money that they've made became rich in their 80s.
	So that's okay, but maybe there's something going on with him.
	That we don't know about.
	There's certainly strange, strange things happening.
	I do not think he's too old.
	I just don't think so.
	But do you think, given the fact that he refused to take a cognitive test, sir?
	It may not be age, but cognitive capacity.
	Well, I would like to see anybody that runs for president take a test.
	I took it.
	I took a very strong, I think the real, uh, the real deal test and I got it a hundred percent, uh, Dr. Ronny Jackson at the time he was the White House physician.
	And I didn't even.
	What's 14.
	Oh, that's you.
	Mr. President.
	So it's so funny with regards to that, that point you just made.
	I'm asked frequently.
	Uh, so what, what would president Trump do if he were still in the White House?
	And I just laugh and I said, all right.
	Uh, want to use any of them here?
	I'm going to use cut 14 and then I'm going to go to calls.
	14 and then calls.
	And then you can block lines now.
	And it's just shy of four minutes long, that cut.
	All righty.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Food for the poor.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yes.
	Food for the poor at the top.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	He may look really scary, but deep down he's very nice.
	You know how nice?
	Mr. G has decided to share with you the parts of the interview with President Trump that if you were listening on the radio, you didn't get to hear yesterday because we ran through all the ad commercial breaks and kept speaking to the president, and he's clipped those out.
	And I'm going to play one of them for you next.
	Then we're going to go to your calls, so Don, Judy, Dusty, Michael, don't go anywhere.
	But that's how super nice Mr. G is.
	Just don't tell anybody.
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	Several surprising things from the President.
	One of them is what he said in the break about Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	None of this isolationist claptrap we hear from some neo-Buchananites.
	This is President Trump on the stakes in Ukraine.
	Cut 14.
	Mr. President, it's so funny with regards to that point you just made.
	I'm asked frequently, so what would President Trump do if he were still in the White House?
	And I just laugh and I say, nothing, because Putin wouldn't have invaded.
	Would have never happened.
	He knew that.
	And I'll tell you another thing that wouldn't have happened.
	President Xi of China would not be invading.
	And I think you're going to see that.
	In the not-too-distant future, Taiwan.
	I don't think he would be invading Taiwan either.
	And also, it had to do with the fact that the Afghanistan removal, the way they left Afghanistan, was such a disaster.
	I think the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
	It showed gross incompetence, and I think that probably helped the decision to go into Ukraine.
	But it never happened under me.
	Not even a chance.
	And the fact that Mark Milley is still the chairman of the Joint Chiefs after Afghanistan, after predicting Kiev would follow in three days after he admitted in an interview that when you were the president he was telling his counterpart in the People's Liberation Army in China that he would warn them if President Trump took any action against China.
	The fact that that man is still in his uniform, sir?
	Well, that's something that should be looked at.
	I've heard that story, and we've all heard that story, and that's something, because that's a very dangerous story, if he did that.
	And he did say it.
	Yes.
	And they ought to be looking at that, because that's really bad.
	That's really bad and really dangerous for the country.
	No, I wasn't a big fan.
	He wanted to leave all the equipment behind.
	I said, "Why would you leave the equipment behind?" "Sir, it's cheaper to leave it behind in Afghanistan." So obviously, and I would have never left it behind.
	I said, "You mean it's cheaper to leave a hundred million dollar airplane behind than it is to fill up the tank and just fly it out even if you just went to Pakistan or someplace else to hold it before you bring it over?" But you fly it back to the United States.
	You think that's cheaper?
	Yes, sir, it's cheaper.
	That's when I lost them.
	I lost him.
	Wasn't a big fan of the fact that he didn't like me standing in front of a church holding a Bible either, by the way.
	I wasn't a big fan of him.
	And if you're back in office for 2024, your expectations for how the war in Ukraine would develop, would Putin start behaving himself if you were back in the position of Commander-in-Chief?
	I would have that war ended within 24 hours.
	That war would end within 24 hours.
	That war would never have started, and it could be now as bad as it is.
	And you can imagine how it'll be if it continues to go.
	It's just a horrible thing in terms of humanity, in terms of life.
	It's a horrible thing, and it must stop.
	And, you know, Ukraine is being just decimated.
	These people are talking about Ukraine.
	Ukraine is being decimated.
	These are cities that don't even exist anymore.
	They're being hit by missile after missile after missile.
	And they have to stop.
	And we can stop it immediately.
	We're talking to the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, my former superior, my boss in the White House.
	You're listening to America First on the Salem News Channel.
	Mr. President, before we go back onto radio, is there a website we should mention at this point?
	Well, I think the great thing is what's happening with Truth Social.
	It's the hottest thing out there.
	People are watching it and, you know, studying it, and they're studying every word that I'm saying.
	And, you know, I understand it.
	It's strong because we're leading in all the polls by a lot.
	We're doing well.
	The people want it back.
	You know, we built, we had a great country.
	We had the greatest economy in the world.
	We rebuilt our military.
	We did the biggest tax cuts, bigger than even Reagan's tax cuts.
	And, you know, a lot of great things happened.
	...is some of the discussion we had in the breaks.
	See it all, find it on YouTube and everywhere else where we are on social media.
	Let's go to your calls, line one.
	Don, Los Angeles.
	Happy Wednesday.
	Happy Wednesday, Dr. G. I'm talking to the voice of America in America.
	I love that.
	Oh, you know, Dr. G, I was so mortified.
	I was listening to Making Movies Great Again, and I heard you were going to talk about Road Warrior, and I was thinking, oh great, that's the way you feel about Blade Runner, that's how I feel about Road Warrior.
	What?
	Do you like it?
	Well, the Road Warrior, the number two.
	Oh, number two?
	Yeah, number two's fun.
	Number two's fun.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the first one is a hunk of junk.
	I mean, your alpha critic, he was a beta critic that day, because why would he choose that?
	Oh my gosh.
	Because he'd never seen it.
	That's why.
	He wanted to, quote unquote, enjoy it together, but he trashed it as well.
	And I think that's the first review where we've trashed a movie together.
	But wait, wait for Monday.
	It's going to be Red Dawn Dawn, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
	Oh, we'll do.
	Yeah, it was just, man, my ideal double bill of all time is Blade Runner followed by Road Warrior, because as great as Blade Runner is, you know, it's kind of slow, kind of glacial and not a lot of fun.
	It's brilliant.
	Not a lot of fun.
	Road Warrior is like nitrous oxide.
	It'll come in there and bam, bam, bam.
	And boy, you got that black humor, the ruthless editing throughout.
	You know, what a perfect double bill.
	But anyway, thank you for everything.
	We might have to set that up.
	We may have to have a reprise.
	We may have to go back to Mad Max and watch the second Incarnation Road Wallet, because it is fun.
	I actually like Thunderdome.
	I just love seeing Tina Turner in her, what is it, her metal bikini.
	It's quite entertaining.
	Thank you, Don.
	Don't go anywhere.
	Judy, Dusty, Michael.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	Stay on this channel.
	So much to do.
	We'll be back.
	Something I just discovered is that if you scrape the creek bed, it's like chemicals coming out of the ground.
	Can you come here and let me just show this to people.
	I don't know if you'll be able to see this on the camera, but watch this.
	Just see that chemical pop out of the creek.
	This is disgusting.
	And the fact that we have not cleaned up the train crash, the fact that these chemicals are still seeping in the ground is an insult to the people who live in East Palestine.
	Do not forget these people.
	We've got to keep applying pressure.
	That's how we're going to fix this problem.
	Thank you.
	America first.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	They have taken everything except what?
	The MAGA movement and talk radio, right?
	We own talk radio as patriots and conservatives, but now they're even creeping into the private sector.
	Not just woke companies, the kinds that are banning our buddy Mike Lindell, but massive trillion-dollar enterprises Like Vanguard.
	Yeah, Vanguard.
	That affect your retirement and your pension.
	BlackRock.
	Huge, huge companies are now kneeling at the left-wing radical altar of ESG ideology.
	And that could really endanger your future.
	Just listen to what every single Republican senator and even Joe Manchin of West Virginia have signed off on.
	This statement.
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	That's ConsumersResearch.org, ConsumersResearch.org.
	All right, back to your calls.
	Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn, line two.
	I think my voice is going to be as deep as Dan's because I'm getting a cold.
	But let me tell you, Governor de-establishment Jeff nailed it.
	I loved it.
	He is one smart... You didn't tell Jeff, did you?
	I sure did.
	He deserves it.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Brilliant.
	It wasn't like mean.
	It wasn't like... It was perfect.
	And to illustrate how perfect it is, listen to this.
	I heard this earlier today.
	I got to share with you.
	What's his name?
	Governor DeStablishment had a book signing in Florida over there.
	And guess what?
	Anyone who wore a Trump shirt or anything with Trump, they did not allow in.
	Yes, I know.
	I guess Ron DeSantis doesn't like fellow conservatives.
	Well, because he's DeStablishment, remember?
	Jeff DeStablishment.
	Perfect.
	I remember.
	Don't encourage Jeff.
	I got a t-shirt for you if you want to hear.
	Go ahead.
	Here we go.
	Policy, not politics.
	And underneath, Trump 2024.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Nicely done.
	I'm writing it down.
	Policy, not politics.
	Trump 2024.
	All right.
	Love it, Judy.
	Thank you.
	Let's go to Dusty.
	Oh, no.
	Hang on.
	Hold Dusty on the line because he's finally made it.
	We'll play the B-roll in the background.
	We wanted to play a clip from the newest senator of Ohio, but we don't have the time now.
	We've got, what have you got, like two minutes with him?
	That's pathetic.
	Well, let's talk to him anyway.
	J.D.
	Vance, Senator Vance, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Sam.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	I wanted to play the clip we've been playing of you drawing that little stick through the creek and then seeing all those pollutants well up.
	Can you tell us what the latest is from East Palestine and how are Ohioans doing without the meaningful assistance from this administration?
	Yeah, well, a couple of big updates, Seb.
	So, first of all, they still have not fully cleaned up the contaminated site.
	So, you think about what's causing those chemicals in the water.
	It's the leaching from the soil.
	The soil is still contaminated, and they haven't cleaned it up.
	The second thing, of course, the Biden administration continues to largely be MIA, especially the Department of Transportation.
	The EPA has spent a little bit more time in East Palestine.
	I've actually been happy about that, but Everybody else seems to be ignoring these guys.
	Why is the president not going?
	If President Trump can take the time, why does Biden not go?
	Well, by the way, President Trump coming, I think, actually really forced the Biden administration to do more than they were doing at the time.
	So any action we've seen from them, we've seen in the last week since that visit from President Trump.
	Look, I think Biden thinks these people aren't his voters.
	He doesn't care about them.
	It's really that simple.
	I think the Democrats see American politics In a friend versus enemy kind of way.
	They didn't vote for him, so he's not going to pay them any attention.
	It's disgusting, but that's the way that he sees it.
	All right, it's Senator J.D.
	Vance on the phone.
	We've only got like a minute left.
	I asked you before the election, what would you do if you won so that you wouldn't become a swamp creature?
	You said you'd surround yourself with people that are not swamp creatures.
	How have your last couple of months been since you moved to work here in the nation's capital?
	Yeah, it's been really good, but we have a really good team here in our Senate office, and that's made all the difference.
	A lot of outsiders, a lot of people with not a ton of political experience, but I think a lot of political smarts and willingness to support the mission.
	So look, man, I'm just trying to remind myself that this is an honor, but it's an honor that comes with some responsibility, and I'm here to serve the people of Ohio, not the establishment.
	I try to remind myself of that every day.
	God bless you, Senator J.D.
	Vance, newly minted senator.
	We were behind him all the way.
	He won.
	He served the nation in uniform as a Marine, and now he's serving Ohio.
	And man, do they need help right now.
	Thank you, J.D.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	He's the CEO, I believe.
	Let me double check that.
	Uh, yeah, CEO.
	Key C capital.
	Oh, keep the mics off for this, Alex.
	Let's break. Let's break.
	Let's break.
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	What does it mean for the average American who wants to weather the storm of the last two years and the next two years?
	Let's talk to a man who knows.
	There is an amazing company out there.
	It's called Key City Capital.
	And we are joined by their CEO, Ty Lasseter.
	Mr. Lasseter, welcome to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, great to talk with you.
	Great to be on your show.
	I appreciate the invite.
	Looking forward to it.
	All right.
	Well, I was on a call with you and your team last week and one of my Salem colleagues, and you impressed me with what you do to help average Americans navigate the rocky, rocky shoals of a very, very Let's talk about just some of the recent headlines.
	I have in front of me Deutsche Bank forecasts U.S.
	recession.
	They're using the R-word tie in the fourth quarter of this year, followed by another rate cut.
	Another very disturbing headline.
	Household debt skyrockets to highest level since 2008's financial crisis.
	We remember what happened in 2008.
	We are trying to forget it.
	But Mr. Lasseter, give us your analysis of the current economy.
	How unstable is it and how important is it for our listeners to reassess what they're invested in?
	Well, I think there's a false front to it.
	We see the jobs increasing.
	I think another half a million new jobs were just released.
	But there's no way to slow inflation without interest rate hikes, which is what we're seeing.
	And it's put, unfortunately, the Fed chairman in a bad place.
	He's coming to the end of a term And he's trying to fight a very rocky, very, very rocky economy.
	But I think what consumers have to do is, we've seen this coming for some people.
	I mean, I've been watching it come and preparing for it for 18 months.
	Some people call it six to nine months if they're following the news.
	And you should have been putting back cash to be prepared for this situation.
	I mean, like you just said, household debt is at the highest that it can be.
	But the most important thing that you can do in an inflationary market, and when interest rates are just climbing at a rampant pace, is making your money work for you.
	Very simply put, is making smart investments.
	But more importantly, and what I focus on when we're making investments, is I'm investing in investments that pay me cash distributions while the investment itself grows.
	Right, so you used a phrase in our discussion last week, cash-flowing investment.
	I like that.
	Will you explain what you do at Key City Capital and why you use that phrase of cash-flowing investment?
	Absolutely.
	Think about it amongst and compare it to inflation.
	Inflation right now is sitting in the 6% range.
	If your money is sitting in a bank account, or even if it's sitting in the financial market, where you hope that your investment goes up tomorrow and worth more than it was today, but typically they're not paying you cash.
	That investment is not climbing in value and paying you cash.
	What we do, We invest in cash flowing real estate.
	We invest at a large economy of scale.
	We have about 5,000 apartment units across the United States.
	So when inflation is going up, so is rent.
	Typically, we're buying in markets where businesses are relocating to their growth markets.
	So rent... So it's kind of a buffer.
	So inflation doesn't hurt your clients as much as it does somebody else.
	That's exactly right.
	I put $100,000 into an investment.
	It's going to pay me $6,000 to $8,000, maybe $4,000 at worst case scenario, but it's setting in real estate that's going to grow in value over the next 2, 3, 4, and 5 years.
	worst case scenario, but it's setting in real estate that's going to grow in value over the next two, three, four and five years.
	And so now inflation may go up at six percent, but my hundred thousand dollars is increasing in value while it's paying me six thousand dollars a year to have that money invested in that hard physical asset investment.
	And that's what most of our investors like.
	They like seeing a physical piece of dirt with a physical dwelling on top of that dirt.
	And at the end of the day, people need a place to put their heads at night, and 70% of America rent.
	And we provide a product to that target market in growth areas Where inflation is hitting that market, yes, but jobs are coming into that market as well.
	And so you've got good, strong job market, you've got good paying tenants, which deliver cash flow to our investors, to ourselves, while our investment grows.
	And it hedges against that inflation.
	And, you know, one more sad thing that I guess strengthens your customers and clients is that Young people are more and more unable to buy property.
	Therefore, the renting market is going to get bigger.
	Isn't it, Ty?
	That's exactly right.
	It has been.
	You've got baby boomers retiring.
	They're looking for low maintenance, less maintenance.
	They're also walking away from baby boomers.
	It's kind of the catalyst to the mom and pop.
	And mom and pops are going to a position where they don't have an exit strategy.
	So they're retiring.
	on less income than they had, and they're looking for a stable place to live that is safe, that has the amenities that they're looking for, but it doesn't have the maintenance that they have to worry about when owning their house.
	And then you've got new job market employees that are coming out of college And they are not able to buy like we could in 2008, 2009, 2010, coming out of the subprime crisis, when interest rates were 2% and 3%.
	Here's my summary as the layman, and this is why I find key city capitals so attractive.
	You're not the landlord, you don't have all the headaches, but you've got the income, and it's in something real.
	If you're not buying gold, you should be buying real estate.
	We've been talking to the CEO of Key City Capital, Ty Lasseter.
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	That creepy story about the nurse blowing in his ear.
	I mean, it was creepy the first time, and then he repeats it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Cut it.
	Pearl Nelson, military.
	She'd come in and do things that I don't think you learn in medical school, nursery school.
	She'd whisper in my ear.
	I couldn't understand it, but she'd whisper and she'd lean down.
	She'd actually breathe on me to make sure that there was a connection, a human connection.
	It was creepy the first time.
	All right, waiting very patiently in Vero Beach.
	Dusty, welcome back to America First.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka, how are you today?
	Good, good.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Well, my first comment was, I can't wait to see a Trump-DeSantis matchup.
	I mean, Trump is going to wipe the floor with that guy.
	I think a debate between them will be something akin to the Kansas City Chiefs playing a local high school team.
	It's going to be cringeworthy trying to watch it.
	Yeah, I think DeSantis has two options.
	He's either going to get angry and lose control, or he's going to try and stay cool the whole time.
	And either way, he's not going to connect with the viewers.
	What do you predict?
	Yeah, well, here's what I wanted to... Looking forward, I know we shouldn't look at the next opponent before we beat the current opponent.
	But looking at a Trump 2.0, I thought one of the mistakes, one of the very few mistakes he made during his first term was, while he brought in terrific people like yourself, he brought in some deep staters that really hurt him.
	Probably too many of those types of people.
	I think in a Trump 2.0, he'll only bring in stable geniuses like himself.
	I'm thinking there'll be a cabinet made up of stellar people Like Hershel Walker, Mike Wendell, Nick Fuentes, the Overstock guy.
	Oh, so you're a comedian.
	You're a comedian, right?
	You're a sad little in-the-basement-with-your-mother-phone comedian.
	Go to hell, you putz.
	Michael!
	Line five.
	Dr. G, it was an honor meeting you at Carr Firearms and you did a great speech.
	I know you're going to be there again.
	That was such an event with the parachuters and everything else.
	Amazing.
	And funny, you say the parachuters.
	This is what's really getting under my skin because I was a demo skydiver with the Army.
	We used to jump into We've got a minute left, Michael.
	Give us the news.
	The trailing of the flags by the demonstration teams is now bad, right?
	Yeah, I saw on Breitbart yesterday, our illustrious DOD is making that not legal anymore because of their stupid, woke crap.
	The trailing of the flags by the demonstration teams is now banned, right?
	And also unfurling the flag in a big sports stadium, too, because it might hit the ground.
	Now, does that apply to people who are former active or just active military?
	In the militaries.
	Serving in the, if you're doing it in the military.
	So people like in the big stadium in Super Bowl.
	We're going to cover this story.
	The DoD is banning the unfurling of the American flag behind the demonstration parachute teams.
	The ones that we met that car firearms were former SEALs.
	So hopefully they still get to do it.
	But that's how woke the U.S.
	military is under Milley and Austin.
	The U.S.
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	This hour of America First starts right now on Salem News Channel.
	So strange.
	Why can't the director of the FBI answer a very simple question?
	Were there FBI assets, were there undercover informants in the crowds on January the 6th?
	How many times did Christopher Wray lie in his cable news interview yesterday?
	We'll discuss that and so much more, including Communist China's less than veiled threats against Elon Musk.
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	The antidote to the mainstream media.
	I locked the phones.
	And the mic's gonna go back on.
	Hello, hello.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Yes.
	Hello, Jen.
	Very loud and clear.
	How are you doing?
	Oh, very loud?
	Am I too loud?
	Oh, Alex is adjusting the audio levels.
	I like to make your ears bleed.
	And we had video and the video just crapped, so I don't have video.
	It's one of those days.
	It's one of those days today.
	You broke the camera.
	I did.
	And what's really funny is I was going to show you guys my vampire eyes.
	I had to go to the eye doctor today, so I've got... We all know... What did you do to your eyes?
	Oh, nothing.
	You remember, actually, when we first met, remember I had a detached retina way back and I called the book Defeating John the Wannabe War instead of Winnable?
	Did you have to remind me of that?
	I had deleted that from my memory.
	Deleted again, but how funny was that?
	That was like our first meeting ever.
	It was hysterical.
	How long ago was that?
	That was 2016, I think.
	Wow.
	15, 16?
	Probably 15.
	16, I think.
	Wow.
	15?
	16?
	Probably 15.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	No, 2016 is when I think my eyes went bad.
	But anyway, so I get checked and they're still good.
	Isn't that great?
	So he says six more months.
	So that's always good.
	Good, good, good.
	Yeah.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	Getting ready for CPAC.
	Why aren't you here?
	I know.
	Well, I heard you weren't going.
	I heard a rumor, but you're going.
	No, we're not broadcasting.
	I'm just going to go to speak and have fun.
	You're just going to go speak.
	Good.
	Oh, see, that would be fun.
	Yeah.
	I got to go one year.
	Have you never been?
	I've never been.
	What?
	And they used to ask us to do Radio Row, but they never wanted me to go.
	And now they're very happy Grant's going to be there, so that'll be fun.
	But he's not going to broadcast from there, is he?
	No, he's doing Real America's Voice from there.
	Oh, that's right.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	So that'll be cool.
	That'll be fun.
	And the president's interview was great yesterday.
	I loved Jeff's name for him.
	That was great.
	Wasn't that good?
	We played that again today.
	We used pieces of it on the show today, actually.
	Oh, thank you.
	Most kind.
	You can watch that full interview, Jen, by the way, on our YouTube channel now.
	On you!
	It's back!
	Oh, you got a new one.
	Yes.
	Oh my gosh, she's going to get us cancelled again, isn't she?
	I knew it was me.
	Oh man, I'm gonna keep, I'll watch my P's and Q's.
	Strike 3 is on the phone, right?
	Strike 3.
	That was Jen.
	That's your codename, Strike 3.
	It's a good codename, actually.
	So how did that dick get past you, Jeff?
	He was good.
	He was slick.
	You gotta up your game, dude.
	You're losing it.
	You're losing it.
	It's good to get them in every now and then.
	He stormed past you.
	Yeah, we had a Nick Fuentes fanboy sneak through.
	Oh, good lord.
	The moment he said stable genius, just the way he said it, I was like, wait a minute.
	That was rough.
	All right, 40 seconds.
	Want to use any cuts here?
	Many.
	Many.
	I want to use many cuts.
	You'll just have to be on your toes.
	Jeff, check out Ashley Hinson.
	As a potential guest, new congresswoman Ashley Hinson.
	Okay.
	Oh, I just saw her the other day.
	She wasn't bad.
	Yeah, she was pretty good.
	I've just never seen everything.
	Thank you.
	The FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan.
	on.
	That is probably the only true thing that the director of the FBI said yesterday in his Incredible interview with that fake conservative outlet that is Fox News, with that man who kind of pretends at being an independent journalist, but Bret Baier, zero serious follow-up questions.
	We're going to play you more from that shocking interview, but it's time to check in with our West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horne!
	Why aren't you coming to CPAC?
	I am so bummed, especially knowing that you're going to be there.
	You guys are going to have so much fun.
	But you have to promise, if anything good and juicy happens, you have to send me a text message, a picture, a video, something.
	Just keep me updated.
	I don't know if I can, because I think I've broken news on your show three times, and it really annoys Mr. G. He does not like that.
	Oh, come on.
	If he's going to break it on any show, it should be the morning answer in Los Angeles.
	Come on, Jeff.
	Get with the program.
	Get with the program?
	Seriously?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Follow this lady right now at Jennifer Horn.
	Also, CRNtalk.com.
	So much to discuss.
	Can we do national politics first?
	Let's please do, yes.
	All right, so you are a communications major.
	You are the hardest working person I know in radio.
	So let's talk about communications.
	Let's talk about Chris Wray and this interview from Bret Baier.
	Did you get to watch all of it?
	I did, and I was actually shouting follow-up questions at the television.
	I felt like an insane person.
	Why didn't he do... What's wrong?
	Do people not understand the concept?
	In Congress and in the media, they don't understand the concept of follow-up questions.
	His best questions, I thought, came from the people who were tweeting the questions, and he would ask them pretty solid questions.
	But there were so many missed opportunities for follow-up.
	And I will tell you that the field is not big.
	I do like Brett Baier most of the time.
	I think that he tries to be a down-the-middle politician, Freudian slip, but a journalist.
	But it was disheartening because there were so many opportunities for follow-up.
	Especially when it came, I think the big glaring one for me was whether or not they had undercover people at the Capitol.
	There should have been more questioning about that.
	He obviously alluded to, yes, I mean, my goodness, if anybody listened to Christopher Wray and his answer to the question about whether or not there were agents in place at the Capitol.
	The answer from him was yes, in the way that he evaded the question.
	So there is so much more.
	And there's so much more about how people have been arrested, why trials have taken so long.
	There's just been so, there were so many missed spots, I thought.
	I was a little disappointed in the interview.
	But it was funny because in the morning answer today, we had a little disagreement with my co-host Grant.
	Tell me, tell me.
	Well, when he was talking about COVID and he, you know, he comes along and says, well, the FBI believes that this came from a Wuhan lab.
	I mean, first of all, welcome to the party.
	We've all been here for years.
	Hang on, hang on.
	The coronavirus that started in Wuhan came from the coronavirus lab in Wuhan?
	Weird, right?
	It's such a coincidence.
	Wow.
	So when he admits that, Isn't it perverse that we make jokes about this now after three years of being told that it's a conspiracy?
	It's like Bizarro World.
	It's like Bizarro World.
	So Grant tells me, he says, well, I don't like to agree with the FBI.
	And I said, well, it's not agreeing with them.
	They're finally here.
	They're finally agreeing with us.
	Excuse me.
	Exactly.
	This cold has been killing me.
	I apologize.
	No problem.
	But they're finally agreeing.
	So, they're just here now.
	The rest of us are all on the same page.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, we played.
	We opened the hour with basically admitting that I cannot comment.
	Therefore, Ray Epps is an FBI informant.
	But let's look at this from a communications standpoint.
	Here he is being challenged.
	That's a rather strong word.
	Anyway, Bret Baier is asking him about social media censorship by the FBI.
	And his response is just pure, pure slime monster from the swamp.
	Cut three.
	Let's talk about the FBI and what you told Big Tech or some agents did about the authenticity and providence of Hunter Biden's laptop.
	What about that from an FBI perspective?
	The FBI does not, is not in the business of functioning as the truth police.
	Understood.
	We don't tell social media companies to censor anything.
	The Twitter files suggest something different.
	I mean, there was an FBI request numerous times.
	Taibbi puts it out, FBI San Francisco requests to ban certain accounts.
	Twitter personnel in this case went on to look for reasons to suspend all four accounts that the FBI wanted to ban or suspend.
	Is it appropriate to flag social media accounts on Twitter or elsewhere due to politics or government policies when it comes to COVID?
	Is it appropriate in any way?
	You're saying it doesn't happen, but there's evidence that it had.
	We don't tell social media companies to ban accounts.
	But you suggest.
	What we do is tell social media companies about information that we have about foreign disinformation campaigns by foreign actors, by foreign intelligence services.
	And those companies then make decisions about what, if anything, they want to do about it.
	He's saying we don't do it, Jen, as they're showing the emails signed, Fred, FBI, San Francisco, these are the four accounts we don't like.
	They're actually, the email's right there on the screen, Jen!
	It's because they are totally lying.
	He was caught red-handed, Seb, in this interview.
	He looked ridiculous.
	We all know that the FBI has been coordinating with Twitter, with social media.
	Weekly!
	Weekly!
	And has been moving with the news media.
	I mean, if you even go back to the Russian collusion scandal, you'll see.
	That the FBI was feeding information to the news media they knew was fake to cover the people that they wanted to cover.
	That's why Christopher Wray has a short-lived history of President Trump can get back into that White House.
	And I hope that he can.
	We need to do some major work at the FBI.
	All right.
	If you missed it, we are back on YouTube.
	We posted the whole interview with President Trump yesterday.
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	The whole, almost 40 minute long interview with President Trump.
	He talks about DeSantis, Biden, the train wreck in Ohio, Putin, Russia, Milley.
	The whole, we covered the whole nine yards.
	You've got to watch it today.
	All right, let's talk about somebody who is actually communicating well and in the name of truth and transparency.
	That's Dr. Marty Makary yesterday, testifying on Capitol Hill.
	And he's just connecting the dots for the rest of us, Jen.
	Cut five, play cut.
	Two leading virologists, maybe the two top virologists in the United States.
	Dr. Michael Farzan from Scripps and Dr. Robert Gary from Tulane told Dr. Fauci on his emergency call in January of 2020 when he was scrambling soon after learning that the NIH was funding the lab, they both said that it was likely from the lab.
	Both scientists changed their tunes days later in the media And then both scientists received $9 million subsequent in funding from the NIH.
	It's a no-brainer that it came from the lab.
	I mean, at this point, it's impossible to acquire any more information, and if you did, it would only be affirmative.
	Even if you take politics out of it, Jen, I'm just, this is such a sea change.
	Because usually, and I've been there, I've testified multiple times before Congress on ISIS and jihadism.
	In the past it's just been, you know, they come in, they prance for the cameras so they can tell their constituents at home they asked a question of somebody from the White House.
	This time, this was actually meaningful.
	This was a congressional hearing that was substantive, Jen.
	It was, and we've learned so much.
	I was reminded about Jon Stewart, some of the other comedians who found themselves canceled.
	President Trump, who was called a racist, a xenophobe, for calling out the fact that the lab leak is the working theory here, that this is what we've known all along.
	It's stunning to me that now people are actually asking questions.
	So what happens?
	Do we get a refund from the government?
	Do we get our Twitter accounts back?
	Do we get our lives back?
	Do we get our kids education back?
	Because it seems that we received a lot of bad information and it's all what they wanted to tell us.
	It almost, I hate to be conspiratorial, but felt like a test run in some respects for how much government control we could possibly take, especially in big blue states and big blue cities like the one I live in.
	Now for all of this real information to come out, it's great that it's here, but how much pain, punishment, how much did we lose because of all of this?
	We'll talk about your state momentarily.
	We're talking to Jennifer Horne.
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	We told him, right? right? - Right.
	Jeff?
	Randy knows I'm not in studio tomorrow, right?
	We told him.
	Yeah.
	So where is he?
	Let me see.
	Jen!
	Oh my gosh, dying in here.
	And no mic switch in this room, so this is great.
	You don't have a cough button?
	Not in this room.
	In my usual space, I do.
	We have, um, when things start to snow and rain, uh, we get real issues around this place.
	How's your dad doing?
	He's doing great.
	We just, he went to the eye doctor the same time I did, because he goes for something else, so.
	Uh huh.
	We tag team with the doctor in there.
	That's funny.
	He goes from one horn to the next.
	Yeah.
	What about your mom?
	She's doing so great.
	She's been up and moving and doing physical therapy and she's feeling so good.
	I will.
	And I talked to Katie this morning.
	We had fun.
	What did you discuss?
	We talked about equity.
	Equity.
	And then there was a story from the CDC about how liberal teenagers are more depressed than conservative teenagers.
	That's a surprise.
	Isn't that interesting?
	I can't imagine why.
	Hey, John.
	Yes?
	What are the difference between the round lights that Larry have and the square LED ones I have?
	I don't think much.
	Because I see that he's got all these round ones.
	Are they incandescent?
	Or are they out of the LED as well?
	Dr. Chi, the rounded lights actually, they're not good.
	They're not good?
	But we thought Larry's picture was better.
	Those lights are actually tinted green.
	They're tinted green?
	So, it actually gives, like, a very green shade, actually, on the side of the face, so it doesn't look good.
	Are they also LED?
	Uh, I... Yes.
	Well, John has answered, but I assume this is, uh, they're all LED lights, yes.
	Yeah, because it doesn't get hot in here when he's filming, right?
	No.
	I like to be green.
	I think that's an appealing look.
	Very outer space-ish.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	See, I never noticed that green tint on Larry.
	You're like that character from Star Trek, right Jen?
	- That character from Star Trek, right Jen? - Exactly, that's what I want.
	We also had, oh, one of the stories I didn't send you, Judicial Watch took off over a million and a half names off the voter roll.
	Oh my gosh.
	What a sad day.
	What a sad day.
	Cut seven, please.
	Cut seven.
	Then I'll do food for the poor.
	Cut seven, no liner, and then food.
	All right.
	Ashley is a typical politician.
	Who is?
	The one you said to check out.
	Oh, really?
	Why?
	There's about 300 posts about how you need to get the vaccine.
	Are you kidding?
	Not lately.
	And then she turned on it, of course, like everything.
	Like everybody else.
	She was one of the very few that didn't oppose the January 6th vote, too.
	Remember?
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Like something.
	Like something.
	We had Chinese troops lining up along our southern border with weapons aimed at our people.
	You damn well know you would do something about it!
	This is a war!
	Act like it!
	Do something!
	Incredibly emotional testimony from Rebecca Kiesling.
	She is a pro-life activist who lost both of her sons to fentanyl overdoses, 18 and 20.
	And she was testifying that if you had armed troops on our border, we'd do something about it.
	Because it's drugs killing 103,000 people a year, I guess that doesn't matter to the Biden regime.
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	We're back with Jennifer Horne, The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590.
	Jennifer, I said we were going to talk about California, but can we talk about the Windy City for a moment?
	Why not?
	It's a blue city much like Los Angeles where I live, so yes.
	I'm sorry, Jen.
	I don't usually admit this.
	I didn't see this coming.
	Lori Lightfoot gets 17%.
	She's totally toast.
	Did you expect this?
	Well, I saw the polling.
	You know, I wasn't paying too much attention because you just feel like these people are going to somehow figure it out and sail through to victory.
	It happens all the time.
	But the polling had her pulling behind.
	Remember, she was out doing her TikTok dances and such.
	Whatever that raincoat was.
	The fancy dresses, the Clorox superhero.
	I'm not joking, guys.
	She actually did that.
	It's bizarre what she would do.
	And clearly didn't really pay much attention to those polls and whammo blammo, as we like to say.
	She's gone.
	She's not going to be mayor anymore.
	Now, I don't know if Chicago is going to get anything better than what they have now at the end of all of this.
	But you know what?
	People are so tired.
	They're so fed up of not being served by the government.
	2,100 Chicagoans murdered under her watch.
	Unbelievable.
	But I did comment it was a white heterosexual married guy that defeated her, so I guess yay for the patriarchy?
	I did see that, and that did make me laugh.
	The patriarchy always winning.
	And of course, I'm sure this is some racism.
	It'll be racism that got her.
	Oh no, she said it.
	Racism.
	Not 2,000 dead Chicagoans.
	It's, of course, racism.
	All right.
	Imagine, I just guessed at that, and look at you nail it right away.
	How did you know?
	I mean, amazing.
	Let's talk about California.
	So it's official.
	Is it official?
	Is COVID over finally?
	Hold on, let me move my arms around.
	Oh yeah, look at all the freedom I have.
	Yes.
	The state of emergency is over in California as of yesterday, actually.
	So what does that mean if gruesome Newsom has pulled the plug on the state of emergency?
	Does that mean that you can live your life?
	Nothing.
	We still have these zombies walking around with masks on.
	Are you kidding me?
	My favorite.
	Are you kidding me?
	I went for like a little, just a little hike the other day.
	I was out, you know, and the reason I say hike, not on cement.
	I was in like a, you know, like outdoors.
	Nature?
	Nature.
	People are walking by themselves with masks on, Seb.
	Oh my God.
	Seriously, I started waving my arms.
	Like, what are these people doing?
	How about this?
	How about this?
	Sunday Mass, what was it?
	It was Ash Wednesday, right?
	My whole family had gone earlier.
	I went after work to a church I usually don't go to.
	Young, young priest.
	Great, great homily.
	And they have a beautiful choir.
	There's about 30 people in the choir wearing robes, like, you know, purple robes, elegant, beautiful.
	Sure.
	There's one woman, she must be like 60, she had a mask on and she was singing and because she's actually singing, she was blowing the mask out and then sucking it into her mouth.
	It looked like a comedy skit, Jay.
	This is my favorite stuff.
	These people tell you everything you need to know.
	It really is like, you know, the I'm with Stupid t-shirt, basically.
	It's a cult.
	It is a cult, but I welcome it.
	At least you know who you're dealing with when you see people alone in a car or walking, you know, out by themselves with the mask or in church singing in their sealed mask.
	It's exhausting.
	So in California, the state of emergency is over.
	Los Angeles is going to end the county emergency at the end of this month, but I really think that they're going to continue to punish us because the story out of L.A.
	County is that all of these restaurants and bars who created outdoor dining spaces to stay alive during the pandemic and to stay open, they were forced by the county to do this.
	Right, because of the distancing stuff, right.
	They're now going to have to pay up to $20,000 to get permits Wow.
	outdoor dining once the COVID emergency is over.
	Wow.
	So the punishment is going to continue.
	There is no way that they're going to stop leveraging it.
	All right, give us some good news.
	Our buddies at Judicial Watch, they did something big in California.
	Tell all of our listeners.
	This is such a great story, and it's so rare that we get to tell you really good ones out of California.
	But the folks in County were not going to clean up the voter rolls.
	They weren't going to do it.
	They're capitalizing on it.
	So Judicial Watch sued L.A.
	County, and as part of their settlement, this was back in 2019, as part of their settlement, L.A.
	County actually had to go through and clean up the voter rolls.
	So officially, the announcement just came out that because of Judicial Watch's work, and Tom Fitton, God love him, 1.5 million people have been removed from the voter rolls in Los Angeles County.
	And I, you know, I want people to vote.
	Even if they don't always vote with me, I still want them to vote.
	But these people, Seb, were people who had not voted in over 10 years.
	People who are probably dead.
	Who had moved, who are outside of Los Angeles County, incapable of voting for whatever reason, they need to be off these voter rolls.
	So good for them.
	1.5 million voters off is so much better.
	It just ensures such a safer election and takes away the ability for people to commit voter fraud.
	And who lost?
	Was it the county?
	It was the county.
	Absolutely huge.
	We love Judicial Watch.
	JudicialWatch.org.
	You should support them as well.
	We've been talking to Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her right now.
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	At Jennifer Horne.
	I'll look after Grant for you, Jennifer, all right?
	Keep him out of trouble, please.
	Oh, no, that's no fun.
	All right, into a little bit of trouble.
	Just a little.
	You know, not too much.
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	And lemon.
	I've been doing some of that.
	I need to get some honey is what I need.
	A little bit of whiskey.
	Oh, then I'll be out like a light.
	You won't be able to wake me up.
	All right.
	Well, have fun and ask Grant to tell you about going to the rodeo this weekend.
	I will.
	I will.
	That'll be your tease.
	All right.
	All right, guys.
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	Thank you.
	I have B-roll of him, and yeah, we have a few cuts we've used in the past.
	We have, let's see, Israel 60.
	Him speaking to the Tea Party, him telling Obama to go to hell.
	Hang on a second.
	Come in with that, Eric.
	Obama go to hell?
	Whatever you have of Andrew.
	Oh, well I gotta get it real quick here.
	I want to make sure it works.
	Want to see it real quick? - Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go to hell!
	No, serious!
	Go to hell!
	Go to hell!
	You've been so rude!
	You're trying to divide America!
	Class warfare is not American!
	Class- It's really important, I'm gonna tee that up.
	Um, that was Tea Party, right Jeff?
	I think so?
	Probably.
	Let me check.
	I do have another Tea Party cut here.
	It just says Andrew Barbar Tea Party.
	Play it.
	Let me grab it real quick.
	What I do know about Van Jones' community organizing is that he went to Oakland, one of the most impoverished cities in the entire country, and this educated man took advantage of the underclass, just like we saw in Acorn.
	And what did this man do but organize people?
	People who needed help around the conspiracy, the conspiracy theory that Abu Jamal or Mumia Abu Jamal is somehow innocent, preying on the inner city's belief that every single police officer is white and racist and therefore he got, this guy got set up.
	Okay, thanks.
	I'm going to tee up the first one.
	The go to hell?
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	And that's addressed to Obama, right Jeff?
	Yeah.
	That's what it says on Gravy in here.
	Okay.
	You go, uh, no, we're fine.
	Title for Jen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hang on a second.
	40 seconds.
	For Jen...
	Israel's 60.
	Oh, thank you.
	Oh, thank you. thank you.
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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	Okay, I want to go to your cause, but this week we had Phil from Philly say, President Trump needs to apologize to the people he's criticized and to people like DeSantis.
	I've got a message for everyone who believes that.
	And it's a message from somebody who died today.
	22... Is that possible?
	No.
	12.
	12 years ago.
	And it's Andrew Breitbart.
	And he's responding to those who said, play nice, play nice with, you know, Obama and the left and the rhinos.
	Well, here's Andrew Breitbart's response.
	Go to hell!
	No, serious!
	Go to hell!
	Go to hell!
	You've been so rude.
	You're trying to divide America.
	Class warfare is not American.
	Class warfare is not American.
	And the reason why they hate Sarah Palin isn't because of her human flaws.
	It's because how effective she is.
	It's how effective she's been in calling out the community organizer-in-chief, Barack Obama.
	Yeah.
	Eric's right.
	Eleven years ago today.
	Jeff, that should be the spirit of every conservative until, you know, we win, right?
	Especially now.
	Think about it.
	That was eleven years ago.
	Think about all the attacks we've been under since then.
	Oh my gosh.
	You're so right.
	Alright, let's go to Georgia.
	Line one.
	Ryan.
	Hey, Dr. G. Love your show.
	Thank you, buddy.
	It's actually Brian with a B. Brian!
	One day I'm going to clean out Mr. G's ears.
	I'm going to bring in one of those giant swabs like Chris Cuomo had.
	There you go.
	Alright Brian, what's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Well, I've got two ideas for t-shirts.
	Good, go ahead.
	First one is simply Pothole Pete in his construction regalia superimposed on a Mad Magazine cover saying, what, me worry?
	Oh, that's good.
	Oh, hang on.
	I love that.
	So, Alfred E. Newman, Alfred E. Neumann with Mayor Pete's Face, Pothole, What Me Worry.
	Oh, that's good.
	I love that.
	That's genius, Brian.
	You're going to get a signed copy of whichever book you wish.
	Second idea.
	Second idea.
	Same picture of him, maybe not on the Mad Magazine, but the caption says, the irony won't be lost that his occupation at the DOT will be defined by a train wreck.
	Yeah, I don't think we can do that.
	I think that we're not going to make fun of the people who are suffering in East Palestine.
	But the first one, superb, stay on the line.
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	Let's go to Atlanta, line two, Steve, welcome.
	Dr. Gorka, it's awesome to be on the phone with you.
	Thank you.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Earlier there was a guy talking about how at the stadium they won't allow that parachute, the ram air type parachute, to fly in.
	The reason why is because it's disrespectful to the flag to allow it to touch the ground.
	They said that they could do it, but they had to have people on the ground.
	Garbage!
	If you believe that, Steve, I've got a bridge to sell you in Connecticut.
	If you believe Mark Milley's DOD, Lloyd Austin's DOD, the people that are pro-trans insanity are doing it because they respect respect the flag sorry got got got got no they're not doing it because of that because we've been doing it for decades you know that's not that they would care about the flag steve sorry big you are wrong i'm sebastian gawker this is america first coming to you live from the relieffactor.com studios
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	Yeah, he's so good.
	He just had the tood.
	He had the right tood.
	Imagine if he was still here.
	Oh my gosh.
	You think he could have ended up in the White House?
	Oh, he wouldn't have gone.
	He wouldn't have?
	No, no, no.
	Too much of a rebel.
	Too much of a rebel.
	Perfect man to burn down the Deep State, though.
	Oh yeah, but to help on the outside.
	Yeah.
	Man.
	Play cut nine again.
	Cut 9.
	Oh boy.
	By the way, your docs are good, but if there's any angels in heaven, they're all nurses, male and female.
	Your docs are good?
	Like, assuming he had doctors, because he was telling a story about a nurse, and then at that point, you just kind of... I thought I heard the word... What I wrote is what the transcript said.
	What the automatic transcript came up with.
	I thought I heard the word Indian for a moment.
	No, he said, if there's anyone in heaven, it's the nurses, male and female, is what he mumbled.
	He said he was taking a dig at the doctors.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, listen to it again.
	It's what he's saying, that there's only eight nurses in heaven.
	Take it.
	By the way, you docs are good, but if there's any angels in heaven, they're all nurses, male and female.
	They're all nurses, male and female.
	Why does he have to say male, as opposed to what, dog and dolphin?
	That's one of those things where I think it's funnier when you have no idea what he meant to say.
	Does that mean I'm a Biden translator?
	I mean, now that you said it... I heard it after I played like five or six times.
	I just like the automatic transcript.
	But where did you see that transcription?
	Is that from Grabean?
	It's Grabean when it comes up with it.
	It's pretty good.
	I was watching Newsmax last night and they left this clip provided by Grabean on a sock.
	Oh, 30 seconds.
	Want to come in with anything?
	No.
	Alright.
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	All right, let's go to Steve, Texas, line one.
	Hey there, Seb.
	So, uh, you and I were emailing yesterday, and, uh... Oh, are you the guy that uses a pseudonym that doesn't put his real name on his email?
	Hey, lots of people do it.
	Well, only cowards.
	Why did you call in today?
	Mark Twain did it.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Mark Twain was the most famous fictional author.
	I don't think you quite fall into that category, Steve.
	What do you want to say, Steve?
	Come on, get on with it.
	I just wanted to get your take on the revelations with Murdoch saying that his hosts on the Fox News Network endorsed the big lie, even though they knew it wasn't true.
	Why are you calling in?
	Dude, why are you wasting my time calling in?
	I work for Newsmax.
	I deliberately didn't re-up my contract with Fox.
	You're calling in to get me to criticize Fox.
	You're a loser, dude, if you've got nothing better to do.
	And I don't even believe your name is Steve.
	You're a bloody coward.
	Go to hell.
	Let's go to Patriot.
	Ray Livermore, line two.
	You know, Dr. G, I love talking to you, but I have to tell you, when you take on those guys, it's the most fun.
	It is absolutely the most fun part of the show.
	This sad sack of human excrement was emailing me yesterday saying, oh, are you going to denounce Alex Jones?
	Well, you haven't even listened to my show then, you cretin!
	Sorry.
	There you go.
	Sorry, Ray.
	Too much fun.
	Three quick items.
	Yes.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Lots of fun.
	I lost 20 pounds, too, Dr. G. It wasn't the PHC diet.
	I just quit drinking beer.
	And that's a... There's a lot of calories in there, my friend.
	A lot of calories.
	Indeed.
	Number two, Breitbart.
	Thank you for playing that Breitbart cut so that we forget about him.
	Isn't that great?
	And you, sir, you are the spirit of Breitbart.
	You are the spirit of Rush.
	We miss those guys greatly.
	And nobody can replace Rush or Andrew, but man, this show does a great job and I'm glad you're there.
	I sure miss Rush, but this is really filling the gap for me.
	Thank you, Dr. G. That means a lot from you, Ray.
	Thank you, Ray.
	And thank you, and thank your entire staff, because I know it's a team effort.
	All you guys, thank you for what you're doing.
	It's mostly me, but we can say that they're involved.
	Yes, indeed.
	Yes, the guy with the funny voice.
	Yes.
	Yes, that's me!
	All right, quickly, we've got to get to Antoinette.
	What's next?
	Yeah, Mayor Pete was blaming Trump for the derailment.
	You're breaking news!
	that happened under Trump.
	This is going to break, and I want to get ahead of it.
	There's another deregulation Trump did, and I think he's going to take a hit for it.
	He deregulated the size of the stairs on Air Force One, and that's what's causing Biden to trip and fall so much.
	You're breaking news.
	It's not Biden's fault.
	You're breaking news.
	Yeah.
	President Trump, he's responsible for the current incumbent being incapable of walking upstairs because he deregulated the stairs on it.
	Genius, right?
	Yeah.
	Absolutely genius.
	Yep, he did.
	Alright, stay on the line.
	Give him whatever he wants.
	Give him one of our Elon Musk t-shirts.
	He's just too good.
	Alright, let's, uh, it's not even Thursday.
	Antoinette!
	Welcome!
	Hey, Dr. G. Bravo, bravo, bravo for yesterday with our president.
	That was magnificent.
	And Ray from Livermore, cracking me up totally.
	Listen, I have the title for the podcast, okay?
	Yes.
	The one that Brent and I, we've been talking about.
	Here it is.
	The beauty of it all.
	Mar-a-Lago.
	Because, you know, women, we are The feminism aspect of things is what has screwed everything up.
	We want more alpha men and I figured the beauty of it all, Marlago, will encompass all these wonderful women, all ethnicities, all the conversations.
	Conservative-wise, towards the elections for 2024, and that's where I was going with that, Dr. G. I love it.
	We need manly men and beautiful women.
	Perfectly put, Antoinette, of course, because it's Antoinette.
	I love it.
	All right, let's go to Matt, North Carolina.
	Matt, happy Wednesday.
	Hello, Dr. G. How are you doing today?
	Good, good, good, good.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Very good.
	I like the way you shut down these idiots, like the guy from Vero Beach and the other one.
	It's too much fun.
	Too much fun.
	It's great.
	It's excellent.
	But I want to say that I'm glad that all our listeners, that's yours and mine combined, sorry about that, are all happy that Trump is leading in the polls, sir.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we are very happy, but I'll tell you one thing, Matt.
	We don't take it for granted.
	We know that the polls and the pollsters can't be trusted.
	We know the president has a base that is rock solid.
	We know that when it comes to the primaries, We know he's gonna win.
	I mean, look, the best man, last person standing, has to be the nominee.
	But if you look at 2015, if you look at the possible candidates arrayed against him, It's a no-brainer.
	If Ron wants to be strategic, if he wants to be smart, maybe he doesn't even get on the campaign platform.
	He doesn't get on the stage.
	Maybe he just talks to President Trump behind the scenes to be part of his administration, and then 2028, he naturally rolls in.
	That's what I do, okay?
	Don't annoy the people of the state you're governing by leaving early.
	Pick a portfolio.
	Maybe vice president, but pick a portfolio that you would be relevant at.
	I think he's a former navy jag, so maybe something even law enforcement related.
	But at the end of the day, The man who'd never run for public office before won the first time he did it.
	Just stop taking all those millions of dollars from Ken Griffin.
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	Well, I'm thinking, to rescue America's soul, we must first resurrect our own.
	And though best to start with the Bible, I think it's easier and more entertaining to watch Heart and soul-lifting classic MGM, magnificent Hollywood musicals.
	And I urge you to review the morality-focused film from 1972, The Man of La Mancha, with Peter O'Toole, Sophia Loren, from the Broadway play adaption of Miguel de Cervantes' 1605 novel, Don Quixote de la Mancha, And it's about Don Quixote, a man gone mad in a savage and cruel world who dares to dream an impossible dream of rescuing mankind from life as it is to a life as it should be.
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	My issue, it's a fabulous movie, Lorraine O'Toole, but my issue is with the original conception of Cervantes.
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	Do you remember what Fauci said about, oh, the sources of COVID?
	Here's a little reminder.
	Do you address these suggestions or concerns that this virus was somehow man-made, possibly came out of a laboratory in China?
	There was a study recently that we could make available to you where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.
	Totally, utterly consistent, despite what we've heard recently from not just the FBI, but from the Department of Energy, which, by the way, manages numerous of our most sensitive national labs connected to national security in America.
	What has he got to hide?
	Let's unpack that and so much more with the lady who is now, let me get her titles correct, co-host and executive editor of The War Room, Steve Bannon's War Room.
	Natalie Winters, welcome back to America First.
	Hi, thank you so much for having me back.
	As somebody who worked for Steve in the White House and then prior to that was National Security Editor for Steve at Breitbart, I gotta ask you a question.
	Don't worry, nobody's listening.
	Just three million people.
	How are you surviving with Steve?
	So happily and so easily.
	I always joke I'm probably the only person in the world who would answer the question that way because I really have a wonderful relationship with Steve.
	I don't think he's ever yelled at me, maybe because I've never...
	What?!
	He's never... I know.
	For anyone who's ever worked with Steve, you know that's like ridiculous, which maybe it means I'm just good at my job.
	But I think more likely he probably just doesn't want to yell.
	I think it's just because he's an old sexist.
	He yelled at everybody at Breitbart.
	I mean everybody.
	What?
	The bigotry of low expectations.
	The bigotry of, I don't know, being pretty.
	It's the bigotry of being pretty.
	Third day into working for Steve, and I didn't need that job.
	I was a professor already for the Marine Corps.
	I had multiple other things I was doing, and third day in a row, he screamed at everybody at the editorial meeting.
	I said, Steve?
	You do that again and you don't have a national security editor.
	And he behaved himself until we got into the White House and we were even more closely associated cheek-by-jowl in the West Wing.
	All right, let's talk about the news.
	Let's make sure everyone who's listening, watching us right now, is following Natalie.
	Natalie G. Winters.
	Natalie G. Winters.
	First things, look, I didn't prep any of this because, you know, you are one of the few people who doesn't need to be prepped because you're actually one of the few who've actually covered this story for the last three years at the National Pulse and now at the War Room.
	So let's take this hour as a deep dive, but begin with the 101.
	Let's talk about the obvious things that really aren't covered at all by the mainstream media, but are essential things.
	First things first, NIH, CDC, the organization that Fauci helmed for more than 30 years.
	Can you tell us why they were giving monies to Wuhan?
	What is the Wuhan lab?
	And most especially, what is this thing, the Eco Alliance?
	Sure.
	So there's so much to unpack here.
	There's so many, you know, Chinese Communist Party entities and organizations involved.
	And I think it kind of begs the question why the United States is even tangled up within this very intricate story to begin with.
	But I think in order to understand how the Chinese Communist Party really has embedded itself within so much of The United States, you can kind of take COVID as a case study, so I will get into the weeds because that's what I love to do.
	So there was a grant that started in 2014 coming from the National Institutes of Health, particularly the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is the agency that was led, formerly led, until retiring in December of last year by Anthony Fauci.
	And under this broader grant, several projects primarily focusing on the emergence of bat coronaviruses were funded to the tune of millions of dollars in U.S. taxpayer dollars at that.
	Now, this money went, at least according to the grant database, to EcoHealth Alliance, Now, this is a New York-based nonprofit.
	Really, I think, sort of the golden child for the idea, the concept of pandemic prevention, right?
	By having boots on the ground in developing countries, you could hypothetically prevent spillover events of pandemics.
	But evidently, even if you buy the natural origins theory, which even our own government now admits they don't, they weren't very good at their jobs.
	So anyways, Millions of dollars are going to EcoHealth Alliance, but for whatever reason, I would argue it is incompetence in some part at that organization, but also just an institutional culture, both within the scientific community, but particularly the National Institutes of Health, which just does not regard the Chinese Communist Party as an existential threat.
	They view them as a research collaborator and partner.
	the EcoHealth Alliance was allowed to partner with researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology to conduct research into, like I said, bat coronaviruses.
	And there's a lot of, even though as someone who's read the primary documents, right, the papers that were published as a result of this study, there's a lot of sort of back and forth and denial from Anthony Fauci about funding this research to begin with.
	But it's indisputable.
	If you read the papers, you can see that taxpayer dollars allocated by the National Institutes of Health did not just go to EcoHealth Alliance, but they also went to Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers.
	Most infamous is Shur Jung Lee, the bat lady.
	This is the lady who likes to...
	Basically, artificially manipulate bat coronavirus strains that they've found in nature to make them deadlier to humans.
	And that's, of course, gain-of-function research that we're talking about.
	I had actually uncovered her resume, and if you see, she actually lists grants from Anthony Fauci on there.
	So it's indisputable that they were funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	Now, to understand the Wuhan Institute of Virology, because I think that's also an important Aspect to the whole story.
	It's not just like the United States was giving money to To, you know, a Chinese scientific group that was trying to better understand how bats interact with the environment or, you know, pursuing some far left social agenda like, you know, trying to stop climate change.
	The Wuhan Institute of Virology is completely under the thumb and control of the Chinese Communist Party.
	They have communist working groups at the lab.
	They fly the Chinese Communist Party flag.
	They have weekly What they call party devotion sessions.
	They have a foreign influence chapter there.
	They have a Communist Youth League under the auspices of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	As someone, probably the only American who's ever looked at their job applications, you can't apply if you're not a member of the Chinese Communist Party and you're not in good standing with the Chinese Communist Party.
	So this is a CCP-run entity through and through.
	And with that, because there is no really meaningful designation or difference between military and civil science in China, it's also effectively a branch of the PLA in the sense that they were operating a-- - The People's Liberation Army. - Yes, that they were operating it's also effectively a branch of the PLA in the sense that they Yes, that they were operating a bioweapons program.
	And we know this from documents from the U.S.
	State Department, but even if you go to the Wuhan Institute of Virology's website, though they have since deleted these webpages, You can see that they used to list several, several military researchers as higher-ups at the lab itself.
	And even, for example, a lot of the blood samples, the human blood samples that they were using to conduct this kind of bat virus manipulation, this gain-of-function research with, if you read in the paper they actually thank A branch of the PLA, the People's Liberation Army, for those vials of blood, the human blood, whatever model they were using.
	Incredible.
	And I presume most of that evidence that you found has now been scrubbed.
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	If you look at every modern invention from the modern airplane to the Internet, it's here.
	It is discovered and developed here.
	Why in God's name is America The government of America giving one red cent to any state facility in communist China, a nation that has labor camps, that has one political party in all of the research you've done.
	Are we really saying, is Fauci, is NIH, is CDC, is the U.S.
	government really saying, oh, oh, but the scientists in communist China are so much more advanced than, oh, I don't know, Palo Alto.
	What is the logic?
	Have you worked that out?
	Well, this is what I think about in my free time, and the best answer that I've been able to come to, I think if you base it off the evidence.
	So, for example, Anthony Fauci, someone who You and I surely detest.
	He, in the early days of the COVID pandemic, the NIAID funded a study.
	It wasn't like a scientific research study.
	It was just a longer form research paper.
	And among the researchers on it were people from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, so ostensibly Chinese Communist Party-linked scientific researchers, and a few Americans from some different institutions.
	And the thesis of the paper This was right when we were deliberating whether or not to shut off travel from China.
	And the thesis of the paper was that international collaboration is imperative.
	It's important between China and the United States.
	So that's sort of the narrative that I think these people see the realm of scientific collaboration through.
	It sort of aligns with, I would argue, their globalist worldview in the sense that They don't look at China and see the Chinese Communist Party.
	They look at China and see a country that has a lot of money, has considerably more lax scientific regulation than you have here in the United States, particularly when it comes to gain-of-function research, and the timeline that we're talking about.
	But the fundamental issue, you know, Anthony Fauci joked at the Atlantic Ideas Fest a few years ago that he was trying to hire researchers from China.
	And that is such a bizarrely naive comment to make, given the fact that Chinese Communist Party, I mean, owned and run scientists, have been infiltrating American institutions here for so long as part of the Thousand Talents Program, and whether it's intellectual property or stealing, whatever, and exporting it back to China.
	There's just a fundamental miscalculation on their part, on the NIH's part, of the threat that the Chinese Communist Party poses.
	So to me, The bigger question is, is it incompetence, right?
	Do these people just fundamentally not, can they not grasp geopolitics?
	Or is there something more nefarious at play?
	In other words, you've been doing this for years now.
	And look, I get the idea that Oh, international cooperation is super nice.
	Kumbaya and let's hold hands.
	But we're not talking about, you know, working with Belgium.
	We're not talking about working with Slovenia.
	We're talking about the world's largest communist dictatorship.
	So have you found any evidence, whether it's connected to the Hunter laptop, to deals with China, Mr. 10%, or anything even specifically related to Fauci and NIH that is more dark than that?
	Well, I think to answer that anecdotally and broader, the sense is that COVID-19 should have been really the final nail in the coffin for anyone who champions scientific collaboration, because what did we get from that?
	The Chinese Communist Party is not transparent at all, right?
	We've gotten basically nothing from them.
	They're busy deleting the COVID-19 sequences and scrubbing the entire Wuhan Institute of Virology website.
	But yet these people are still pushing for scientific collaboration with China.
	So I think there's sort of a tell there in that it never really was about scientific collaboration in the first place.
	I think the evidence there But why was gain of function so desperately important to them?
	when they were deliberating the gain-of-function research pause here in the United States, they really viewed China as a place that they could continue to conduct and sort of go around, even though it was the Obama administration at the time, kind of circumvent the ban that they had placed on gain-of-function research. kind of circumvent the ban that they had placed on But why was gain-of-function so desperately important to them?
	What was in it for them to spin and modify a deadly virus?
	Well, I think this is when you really start asking the billion, if not multi-multi-trillion dollar question, which is COVID-19.
	You know, and I think that when you look at who's benefited from it, and if it, you know, put it this way, the DOE came out, right, and they said that it was likely a result of a lab incident.
	That still stops short of certainly the thesis that we hold at War Room, which is that COVID-19 was released as a bioweapon.
	It was intentionally released.
	That's my next question.
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	You said something spicy a moment ago that we at War Room, I like that.
	She's like, We, me and Steve, we at War Room, we posit the following, that it wasn't an accidental leak, it was an engineered bioweapon.
	Are you saying it was an engineered bioweapon that was deliberately released?
	If that's the case, what's your evidence?
	Because my theory, based upon, you know, as a former intelligence guy, is the following, that Yes, they were doing skullduggery.
	It was making something dangerous worse, and it wasn't for scientific purposes.
	It was for the purposes of the People's Liberation Army, the communist military of that dictatorship.
	However, if you look at what we can glean, From the initial reaction to the outbreak, the likeliest hypothesis, and this is a hypothesis, is that there was a mistake, there was an accident.
	People working in the lab caught it, took it outside, then they had all the pangolin, you know, wet market garbage excuses.
	Where do you stand?
	You're the person who's been looking at this day in, day out.
	Give us your take on what exactly happened at Wuhan as much as we can know.
	Sure, I love using the royal we of the war room.
	But speaking for myself, there was a blog post that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had on their website.
	I believe they had posted it around 2017.
	And they talked about how they were manipulating bat coronaviruses to reach, quote, epidemic strains of proportion, little bit of a translation issue there, but the word epidemic.
	And if you continue to read the article, they list the NIH as one of their partners and they really.
	So a sanity check.
	Why would they say that?
	Why would they say it's like it's like Dr. Evil?
	You know, I'm building a giant laser and I'm going to tell the world what?
	Why would they say publicly, we are making an epidemic-sized variant of SARS-CoV-1 or SARS-CoV-2?
	What's the logic there?
	So, on an aside, my focus as a reporter has always been Chinese Communist Party infiltration.
	And people always say to me, how do you do your job?
	How do you always find all these scoops?
	The funniest thing, and maybe I shouldn't say this because maybe a bunch of people are now going to start doing my reporting, but the Chinese Communist Party is actually very bold in what they do in the sense that they brag about who they have meetings with, with their foreign influence groups.
	They brag about what they're doing.
	The Wuhan Institute of Virology publishes a scientific journal where they talk about how they receive funds from the National Institutes of Health.
	They list all these American partners.
	list all these American academics and researchers who've come overseas to visit the Wuhan Institute of Virology and lecture them in their own words on quote gain of function research.
	So I totally, I mean, every day I'm reading these websites too and I'm like, the Chinese Communist Party is very advanced They know what they're doing.
	Why are they playing their hand?
	Although I will say, since I started reporting on one of these influence groups, the Chinese People's Association for Friendship and Foreign Contact—that is a mouthful—they've actually deleted their website.
	It's defunct.
	You can't even access the archives anymore, so I think maybe they've sort of caught on.
	But on the bigger issue of the bioweapon, I agree.
	If they were planning to release a virus to create COVID-19 and the whole pandemic, yeah, they probably aren't going to write about it on their blog.
	But I think it sort of gets into the question of why was the Chinese Communist Party toying around with the lethality and virulence of viruses in the first place?
	Yeah.
	Because they've never really made the case for that.
	They love to say the word pandemic prevention.
	And again, it's also a hard subject because the Chinese Communist Party has been brilliant in A, not letting anyone access to these facilities, and of course scrubbing it.
	So I guess All theories at this point are hypothetical because of what the Chinese Communist Party has done.
	I'm going to ask you, just to hold that thought, I'm going to ask you eventually whether you think we will ever know.
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	So just here's a very, very brief montage of how they covered the COVID lab leak theory.
	Because we don't know where the novel coronavirus came from yet, the conspiracy theories fill the void.
	I'm telling you the Chai Khans are trying to weaponize this thing.
	Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof, suggesting a Chinese bioweapon lab is to blame.
	There's this question about the Wuhan lab.
	We know that it's been debunked.
	Those same agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of Trump World's most favorite conspiracy theories.
	Donald Trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum, despite his own intelligence community's findings that that is simply not true.
	And there is simply no reason to believe that that is the case.
	There is no empirical evidence to verify that.
	If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, it's very, very strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.
	Science has spoken!
	That little fascist Fauci has spoken!
	It can't be artificial!
	You're new to this field of journalism, investigative reporting.
	You've outshone almost everybody out there.
	I have to ask you to use your analytic skills for the establishment media's behavior in the last three years.
	What do you see here?
	Do you see Agit propaganda in support of the powers that be?
	Are these people who are at the same cocktail parties with Fauci and his wife, you know, the head of ethics?
	Blows my mind.
	Or is there some other connection?
	Is it just swamp creatures being swamp creatures, thinking like a collective?
	How is it that in lockstep for three years, from Forbes magazine, New York Times, New York Post, the new scientist, the Lancet, Everybody said, oh, no, no, no, no, debunk theory, not a lab leak.
	Are you seeing any evidence as to why there was such a unified chorus?
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	But to answer your real question, I think that It's a much broader question about the nature of the powers that be here in the United States, the nature of the swamp.
	And what I mean by that is that everyone from that mainstream media class, the Fauci's of the world, that, you know, D.C.
	elite, it was very, very, very, very in their interest for this virus to not have been birthed by the Chinese Communist Party, right, to have just been a natural spillover event.
	Because the reaction to that, how you treat it, is very different as opposed to coming to terms with the fact that COVID-19 could have been a bioweapon.
	And what I mean by that is that all of these sort of nonprofits or movements or even the World Health Organization's efforts to broaden their sovereignty that have cropped up since the onset of COVID-19, right, these mass vaccination organizations, kind of the Bill Gates-funded groups of the world, they have all predicated their, kind of the Bill Gates-funded groups of the world, they have all predicated their, I would argue, business model, but their model on the idea that pandemics will continue to occur if we don't invest in pandemic prevention
	And that you kind of dovetail in...
	To the social control aspect of it, right?
	Climate change increases pandemics.
	You need to take the COVID-19 shutter.
	We're going to create new strains.
	So they have really, I think, enjoyed this natural spillover idea because it has allowed them to use, to really weaponize COVID paradoxically, not in the gain of function research aspect, but from a social agenda.
	Yeah, politically weaponizing.
	Whereas if you take the theory that it is developed at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party, your solution to that is not, well, let's roll out, let's give the WHO, which is in bed with the CCP, even more power.
	It's no, let's roll out.
	Let's sanction the Chinese Communist Party.
	Let's work to take down the Chinese Communist Party.
	Let's realize that the CCP is an existential threat and engaging in both unconventional and unrestricted warfare.
	So it was very in the interest of these power-hungry bureaucrats to run cover For the Chinese Communist Party, and of course, as someone who has really researched, you know, people and their compromising ties to the Chinese Communist Party, there are a lot of people, you know, you can go case by case, who have either received financial grants from the Chinese Communist Party, people like Peter Daszak conducting research.
	He spearheaded the Lancet Journal, which put out that paper that said anybody who supports the lab leak theory is a deranged conspiracy theorist.
	So on a case by case basis, there's sort of an individual level of CCP compromise.
	But I also think, too, the idea that all of these media outlets and institutions are separate, right, and they're all just working in lockstep, I think that's sort of a false facade.
	And what I mean by that, there really is no Chinese wall, no pun intended, between, I think, any of these mainstream media outlets.
	They're all sort of one monolith that just support the same narrative.
	And frankly, I think COVID-19 is a perfect example of how this consolidation of power can really Really control how people think and brand certain theories, certain ideas as, you know, beyond the pale.
	And then they sort of quietly, secretly admit a couple years later, all the while begging us for amnesty.
	If you remember that amazing Atlantic article that we were actually right.
	So that's why I think the COVID phenomenon is such an interesting case study.
	You can really tease out so much from it in terms of the intentions of our ruling class.
	And the same goes for Fauci, right?
	If this turns out to be a deliberate development or an accidental leak from the lab, his raison d'être as a director collapses.
	Entirely.
	And remember, he and his wife have probably benefited the most from this pandemic in terms of power.
	Anthony Fauci, I think, probably has the largest ego in all of Washington, D.C., and that says a lot.
	But this is someone who not only, I mean, he co-authored papers with his wife during the COVID pandemic about how it was not only okay to conduct research in third world countries and who cares about the scientific standards there, it doesn't really matter.
	But she was authoring papers saying that it's okay to fire and harass employees who won't get the COVID vaccine.
	These people are power drunk, power hungry, and COVID got them everything they wanted.
	Yeah, and she is chief of ethics, absolutely mind-blowing.
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	All right, two big questions left for you, Natalie, and then we'll let you get back to, you know, beating up on Steve Bannon. - Yeah, that's good, man.
	When are you going to write a book?
	I mean, given the amount of work you've done and your advanced years, you should have written the COVID truth book by now.
	Do you have any plans like that, or should I tell Steve to order you to do it?
	No, I definitely want to write a book, but you know, the thing is, I do all my own research.
	I do everything by myself, so I wish I could clone myself and have that person focus on the book, and I could still focus on my investigations, because at one point I was maybe considering But there's just so much happening in the news cycle that I feel like I'm doing a disservice to what's going on currently and I want to focus on that as opposed to just, you know, writing a book for my own self-advancement.
	Excuses, excuses, excuses.
	Alright, on that topic.
	We haven't had a lot of defectors, I think, for obvious reasons.
	Do you think that's the only way we'll ever find out?
	What do you give as the odds that we will know the genesis of this variant of SARS-CoV and whether it was deliberately leaked or not?
	What does your gut tell you?
	Well, as someone who has studied Chinese Communist Party Not just infiltration, but all the levers that they control American society through.
	And I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but they plow billions of dollars into political warfare operations to really control your mind.
	I don't know if we ever will.
	I think from the biological perspective, in terms of the actual evidence, I think the Chinese Communist Party Did a very good job of getting rid of that and they embedded a lot of people who they had funded their research in terms of the Western scientists who served on the WHO COVID origins investigative team.
	So I think it was sort of a missed opportunity there.
	So I really think a whistleblower would be the only answer.
	Or, again, I think it goes back to what I was talking about.
	You know, you can sort of find the crime in the cover-up, too.
	You know, I think a lot of things like this you sort of never know.
	And Anthony Fauci had even gave a speech.
	I'm sure he got his very nice, large, lucrative speaking fee, like, two weeks ago.
	And he sort of made a jab at people, where, like, he's like, oh, well, these people want to know what the origin of COVID is.
	They're so crazy.
	And it's like, well, no, people want to know and they have a right to know.
	But I think the fact that that narrative has already sort of taken hold, that people like us who are demanding to know where COVID came from, that we're crazy, sort of suggests to me that people like Anthony Fauci, even in his retirement, are going to continue to defend the Chinese Communist Party and this idea that it did develop naturally.
	Again, I don't like to give false hope But I think the Chinese Communist Party, as you well know, they're very advanced.
	They know what they're doing, except when it comes to writing articles on their website that Natalie Winters can read.
	Look, educate your guys.
	You've got to follow this lady on social media.
	Natalie G. Winters.
	Natalie G. Winters.
	Truly a one-person media empire.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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