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June 7, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The Left wants to ban Bongino and Shapiro

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	If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it.
	I will not look for you.
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	But if you don't, I will look for you.
	I will find you.
	And I will kill you.
	I have a particular set of skills.
	A famous line, a meme-worthy line from the Taken series of movies starring Liam Neeson, who has turned 70 today.
	Many happy returns of the day to you, Liam, a man who started his career, well, I think the earliest films he was in were Excalibur, where he played the knight Gawain, a classic, the boarman Excalibur.
	And then for me, from my childhood, the fantasy adventure Kral, where he played one of the Ruffians, Keegan.
	Happy birthday to you.
	That...
	Is toxic masculinity.
	And we love it.
	The more toxic the better.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem News Channel across the nation to millions of listeners.
	We will celebrate that masculinity because it is what built the greatest civilization on God's green earth, the Judeo-Christian civilization of which America is the apotheosis, the pinnacle.
	This is the civilization they want to destroy.
	They want to undermine.
	Because for them, America is the problem.
	We must be punished.
	Somebody's calling in on the hotline.
	I don't know who's calling in on the hotline.
	Mr. G, will you check who that is?
	We have an amazing set of guests for you today.
	Lord Black will be with us.
	We will be talking to somebody who may be one of the MAGA candidates that will help take over the Senate after the November midterm elections.
	And of course, you.
	Please, sound off here on America First 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	8333 Gawker.
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	Yesterday, we celebrated the 78th anniversary of D-Day.
	The combined operation by the Allies of more than 160,000, not 160, as Millie said yesterday in Normandy.
	You know, 160,000 Allied troops, most of them GIs and Marines, that marked the beginning of the end for Hitler's Third Reich.
	Yes.
	Yesterday, whilst we were commemorating it, Whilst I read the letter from Supreme Allied Commander Europe, General Eisenhower, to the troops who were about to land on the beaches in front of the withering machine gun fire from the German machine gun nests.
	What was the White House doing?
	Nothing.
	Absolutely nothing.
	The White House that has seen fit today, as we were preparing for the show, to give the White House podium to Matthew McConaughey for half an hour to talk about gun violence in America because... I have no idea why.
	He's a citizen of Uvalde, as are many other people.
	What does that mean in terms of his qualifications to solve gun crime in America?
	Nothing, really.
	But whilst they were celebrating Pride this, Pride that, meeting with, what is it, last week they had Korean or Taiwanese pop stars, what they weren't doing is commemorating D-Day, is remembering those who died to stop fascism.
	The White House, for the second year running, Forgot?
	Or did they forget?
	Or did they deliberately not mention D-Day?
	It took until 8.45 last night, long after, given the time zone change, it was no longer D-Day's commemoration in Europe where it happened.
	It was already the 7th of June, not the 6th of June.
	It was way past midnight.
	The statement was released by the White House.
	Not at 8.45 in the morning 8.45 p.m.
	after D-Day had already occurred 78 years ago yesterday.
	Now you can ask, you can posit whether it was just an accident which I find hard to believe.
	There are lots of people In the building, whose job it is to prepare statements on all kinds of inane, politically correct, woke things.
	And the idea that they didn't pick up a newspaper in the press office?
	They didn't see a photograph of the D-Day landings?
	Maybe it was deliberate.
	But the bottom line is, it matters not which scenario it is.
	Whether it is rank incompetence, or whether it is an ideological decision not to celebrate the 18-year-old, sometimes 17-year-old young men.
	Let's just stop for a moment.
	If you're one of those troop carryings, those landing craft,
	And if you're one of the GIs at the front, standing right behind the ramp, and you've vomited up the breakfast that you're trying to keep down out of fear, out of seasickness, being buffeted by the waves, and you hear the shelling, and you hear Hitler's zipper, The MG42.
	Cycling at 12,000 rounds a minute.
	Firing into the water.
	Firing into the landing craft.
	And you're at the front.
	And the order is given.
	And the ramp is dropped.
	What makes you move forward?
	What makes you jump into the water?
	What makes you put one boot in front of the other?
	It's not the Soviet army.
	You're not being bayoneted from behind.
	You're not being forced at pain of death from one of your superior officers to do it.
	You're not part of some ideologically driven cult-like state, as were the German troops, subsumed to some ethno-genocidal ideology.
	You're creating a Lebensraum for your thousand-year Reich.
	You're doing it for the man beside you.
	You're fighting for your fellow squad members.
	You're fighting for your mother at home, your sister, your kid brother, your grandparents, your city, your town.
	You're fighting for one reason alone, really.
	To defeat evil.
	Because you know that evil exists.
	By now you know about the death camps.
	You know about the Holocaust.
	The murder of the handicapped.
	The Jews, the Roma, the Catholics.
	The summary executions of priests.
	More than 20,000 Polish officers and civilians in the Katyn forest.
	Not killed by the Soviets who are supposed to be your quote-unquote allies.
	You know evil exists.
	And you are there to defeat it or die.
	That is still our mission.
	For as long as we breathe, and our hearts pound with life, our job is to face evil down.
	And to crush it.
	As it always has been.
	And as it always will.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist of President Trump.
	This is America First.
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	Zach, Steve.
	Yeah, he just left early.
	Okay.
	He said he's finally talking to Navarro, too.
	Good.
	Now, is he, is he, is his primary today as well?
	Should be.
	It's a New Jersey primary.
	Yes, it is today.
	Hello, America First.
	Alright, hang on one second.
	Oh yeah, I've got it.
	There we go.
	Do you want me to turn the mics off?
	Yeah.
	Okay, keep the mics off and switch.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Biden forgot World War II situation.
	Stop.
	Again.
	Stop.
	Biden just forgot World War 2.
	Again.
	Don't forget to use camera 2 now and again.
	You don't have to use it just when I've got a guest here.
	I want to show off my Millennium Falcon.
	All right, Steve, 90 seconds. - Okay.
	Okay, sir.
	Who asked you about using the studio tomorrow?
	No liner.
	This one ready.
	We'll do the 20 second mark guy.
	Oh, we still have 90 seconds.
	Keep forgetting this break is really long.
	Who asked you about using the studio tomorrow?
	Was it his guy?
	Yes.
	Andrew.
	Andrew.
	That's right.
	Right.
	One minute. - Oh, what other things did I not, no, no, no, no.
	Oh, cut four, please.
	Cut four real quick.
	Go ahead and give it to him.
	Well, we're going to make the media pay for what they did to me.
	They made it hard for me to live a normal life.
	I can't go out into public.
	I can't go to the store.
	It's hard for me to go anywhere without security.
	Doing basic things like taking my dog to the dog park is difficult.
	So, they made it really difficult to be normal and they affected future job opportunities to me.
	I don't think I'll ever be able to work or get a job because I'm afraid an employer may not hire me.
	20 second mark will be fine.
	Alright, good.
	Alright, and you've got all those buffers?
	Uh, the... Hang on, which buffers?
	The, um... Oh, the how it started, the Burger King.
	The Burger King stuff.
	Yeah.
	I got just the Burger King.
	Was that the only one you wanted?
	I think so, uh, probably.
	Alright, kill him next.
	- - Instead of coming to my door where I live, which by the way is right next to the FBI,
	Instead of calling me and saying, hey we need you down at court.
	We've got a warrant for you.
	I would have gladly come.
	What did they do?
	They intercepted me getting on the plane.
	And then they put me in handcuffs.
	They bring me here.
	They put me in leg irons.
	They stick me in a cell.
	By the way, just historical note, I was in John Hinckley's cell.
	They seem to think that that was like an important historical note.
	That's punitive.
	What they did to me today violated the Constitution.
	That is a clip we will be playing many, many times.
	Why?
	Because that is the state of affairs in America.
	The federal police being used as a political weapon against Peter Navarro, former assistant to President Trump, because he refused to comply with the subpoena from an illegitimate committee.
	Of course, that is the January 6th Committee of Nancy Pelosi, with no Republicans nominated by the Republican Party to that committee.
	It is illegal.
	He won't be the first, he's not going to be the last, and it is meant to intimidate you.
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	He's been on the show before.
	We met recently in New Jersey at an amazing event called Seat at the Table.
	He has spent, oh I don't know, more than 20 years at the FBI.
	He is now running for the 4th Congressional District of New Jersey.
	Steve Gray, welcome back to America First!
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me on your show.
	I appreciate it, sir.
	All right.
	We're going to talk about the dirty tricks that are going on today, the primary that is occurring, how the campaign's going so far.
	But with your experience inside the Bureau, I have to get you to comment on what happened to Peter Navarro at the airport this weekend in the hands of the federal law enforcement agents.
	Yeah, and I've been talking about this and speaking out about exactly these types of arrests since I retired in January.
	The FBI has been politicized.
	The FBI has been weaponized by the Democrats and by the left to go after their political opponents.
	and they did it again with Peter Navarro.
	The way he was arrested was disgusting.
	We do not do that in the FBI.
	That is not normal procedure.
	We would have just called this man on the phone and asked him to have his attorney bring him down to a local field office where he would have been processed and then taken to court where he would have had the opportunity to to be arraigned, and then he would have been let go and gone home until his trial date was set.
	So why does the FBI handcuff, shackle, and put people in leg irons?
	When is that used, Steve?
	When we have violent criminals, like gang members, murderers, individuals who have committed assault against police officers.
	These are the people that get leg irons, not people like Peter Navarro.
	It's absolutely disturbing to me that the FBI is still getting away with these types of tactics, and we have Republican congressmen who are not speaking out about this.
	Yeah, and we also have conservatives.
	I'm kind of fed up with my former Fox colleague, Sean Hannity, who always says, you know, the FBI is great.
	It's only the seventh floor.
	Steve, if you were an agent today and you were instructed to put leg irons on Peter Navarro, what would you say to the ASAC?
	What would you say to the senior agent who told you to do that?
	Absolutely not.
	It would never have happened on my watch, that's for sure.
	You know, agents have a lot of discretion when they're making these arrests.
	And it's all at the discretion of the team leader, whoever the arrest team leader is.
	If that arrest team leader is a leftist Democrat, then Peter Navarro is getting leg-irons.
	If he's a Republican, then I would hope that he would push back on his supervisors and say, listen, we're not putting this man in leg-irons and shackling him and basically perp-walking him out of the airport.
	It's disgusting, and I would hope that good patriot FBI agents would have not done that.
	All right.
	Talk to us.
	Big day in New Jersey.
	We've had you on the show before when I met you at that fabulous event organized by Elizabeth and George Nader.
	How's the campaign going?
	What is your expectation?
	I'll tell you, Dr. Gorey, this campaign has really taken off for Steve Gray.
	The Steve Gray campaign for Congress is on fire.
	We have support across the district, and it's coming in from all over.
	And I will tell you this, it really has our corrupt RINO opponents worried.
	And one of those corrupt RINO opponents is Chris Smith.
	And Chris Smith is an individual who voted for the January 6th committee to put Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on it, which led to Peter Navarro getting arrested.
	And how long has Chris Smith been in politics, Steve?
	He got elected when Jimmy Carter was president 42 years ago.
	And what is his campaign?
	What are your adversaries, your Rhino adversaries, texting out to voters in New Jersey, Steve?
	Yeah, this is absolutely disgusting.
	Last night, my Rhino corrupt opponents texted out that I have dropped out of this race, and that is absolutely false.
	You know, we're trying to bring back integrity to the Congress, and we can't bring back integrity if my opponents are lying about me.
	And the only reason why they're lying about me is because they know that I'm leading, and it's scaring them, especially Chris Smith.
	Because he doesn't want to lose his Congress job effort.
	I have the text that you received from the campaign, and he's actually boasting in this text when he's lying, he says, Steve Gray has stopped campaigning.
	Do not cast a ballot for Steve Gray.
	And actually, in the text, he says, Steve, he goes, Chris Smith, brackets, 42 year incumbent.
	I mean, that should be illegal in America, Steve.
	It should be, yes.
	And I'll tell you, my supporters, it set them on fire and it lit up social media like crazy, especially Facebook.
	And all it did was my opponents just shot themselves in the foot because it just proves that, number one, somebody like Chris Smith, if it was him, He doesn't have the integrity to hold the position of congressman.
	And if it was my other opponent, Mike Crispy, number one, he's a 28-year-old podcaster.
	He doesn't have the maturity level, the life experiences or the work experiences to actually hold the position of congressman.
	And if he's behind this, this just shows the reason why he shouldn't be at Congress.
	All right.
	It's Steve Gray with an A. SteveGrayForCongress.com.
	It's SteveGrayNJ4 on Twitter.
	We got 30 seconds left.
	What is your message for all in New Jersey today, Steve?
	I want everybody in New Jersey to know that I'm fighting for them.
	The people of New Jersey and the people of my district and the people of the United States of America mean more to me than anything else.
	I'm fighting for them to stop the border crossings, to close up our border, to get gasoline prices back down to $2.25 a gallon, and to get inflation back down to where it should be, around 2%.
	Fabulous.
	We need more patriots.
	He's serving America yet again.
	Former FBI agent speaking out against the corruption in the FBI and running for the 4th Congressional District in New Jersey.
	Get out there today and vote.
	This is America First.
	Stay with us here on the Salem Radio Network.
	Thank you, Steve.
	That was excellent.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
	Listen, this discussion... Be careful.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I just wanted to say that this is disgusting, this arrest, and the fact that the January 6th Commission has been doing this, and we've been going after January 6th protesters for the FBI the same exact way, and it really has to stop.
	We don't make these arrests For just normal, everyday people.
	That's all these people are, these protesters.
	Just normal, everyday people.
	But why did these agents serve that arrest warrant with shackles and handcuffs?
	Yeah, I don't have an answer for you, and I can't even speculate as to why, but if I was the team leader of that arrest, that never would have happened.
	I would have pushed back.
	I mean, obviously, Right.
	Mic's on.
	Title for that one.
	Cut five.
	number one isn't a threat and number two he was in an airport so you know he wasn't carrying a weapon it makes no sense to me yep exactly all right keep us posted good luck buddy i i will dr corkett thank you very much for having me on your show today i appreciate it thank you right mike's on uh title for that one can you play cut five first cut five good if you're a republican running for re-election or trying to unseat a democrat things are looking pretty good
	right?
	I would say they're looking very good from a historical context.
	So basically, I took the best Republican positions on the generic congressional ballot at this point in midterm cycles since 1938.
	That generic ballot basically is, would you vote for the generic Republican or generic Democrat in your district?
	And guess what?
	Since 1938, the Republican two-point lead on the generic congressional ballot is the best position for Republicans at this point in any midterm cycle in over 80 years!
	He's excited, isn't he?
	Wow!
	Gotta have a little high-pitched voice.
	Okay, uh, oh, cut six.
	Here's the thing.
	You'd think the woman as a prosecutor would understand that if our money is going to corrupt governments in Central America, and she has been tasked with the idea of finding out what the root causes of immigration are, that she would do exactly what you're talking about, Jesse.
	That is common sense.
	But this woman is lazy.
	She is a lazy human being.
	She doesn't want to focus her message.
	She doesn't want to get out there.
	I mean, the woman is, she's more than a laughing stock.
	She's more than someone who's inept.
	She is lazy.
	She doesn't deserve a job.
	She should just resign.
	She's not doing anything.
	Oh, did we put Chris Bouskirk on the tweet?
	I don't think so.
	Hang on, let me check.
	Sent.
	Oh yeah, we did.
	Okay, go.
	Yeah, he was after black.
	Wanna come in with anything?
	Uh, I'm gonna go to calls here.
	Let me do 2,000 mules.
	2,000 mules and then calls.
	And then... 30 seconds.
	Come in with six.
	Come in with six.
	All right.
	No liner.
	Three, two, three.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Here's the thing.
	You'd think the woman as a prosecutor would understand that if our money is going to corrupt governments in Central America, and she has been tasked with the idea of finding out what the root causes of immigration are, that she would do exactly what you're talking about, Jesse.
	That is common sense.
	But this woman is lazy.
	She is a lazy human being.
	She doesn't want to focus her message.
	She doesn't want to get out there.
	I mean, the woman is, she's more than a laughing stock.
	She's more than someone who's inept.
	She is lazy.
	She doesn't deserve a job.
	She should just resign.
	She's not doing anything.
	I love Judge Janine, but I'm not sure that the cackler is lazy.
	She's just creepy and incompetent.
	That's the reason that she hasn't been to the border.
	There's a massive caravan of illegal aliens is traversing southern Mexico on the way to America and the Mexican government isn't doing anything.
	Of course not.
	We're going to go to your calls momentarily.
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	Alright, let's go to David, Line 1, California!
	Oh, General Patton of the Airways, let me tell you.
	I was watching TV, unfortunately I saw Matthew McConaughey, whatever his name is, he boiled my blood.
	I cannot believe these Hollywood guys, these people.
	The sadness of it, Doctor, is that he brought up all of the misery and pain these people are already going through.
	Yeah.
	When is it going to stop?
	I can't believe it.
	He just stepped all over their feelings.
	And they made it almost for half an hour.
	He's from Uvalde.
	I get it.
	OK.
	But hold up pictures, drawings from the children.
	I think one of the mothers was there with the sneakers of the child.
	And then, OK, you're memorializing the children.
	I understand that.
	We have to pray for their souls.
	We have to pray for the survivors and their families.
	But then to say, we need universal background checks in America.
	Matthew, we have them.
	Go to a gun store now and try to buy a gun without going through a background check.
	You just lost all credibility.
	He's a libertarian.
	I've read his autobiography.
	Matthew, Stick to the acting.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Thank you, David.
	Let's go to Ray in Livermore from the tall grass.
	Hey, Dr. G. Thanks for taking the call.
	Sure.
	Just because someone's creeping incompetent, it doesn't mean they can't be lazy, too.
	Okay?
	That's true.
	One doesn't rule out the other.
	That's true.
	Although, being the Attorney General of California, you'd think that she's used to a bit of work.
	Oh my.
	Little do you know how it gets done out here in California, Dr. G. I'm sorry, you're the expert.
	You're the expert.
	Yes.
	I have an answer to why Matthew McConaughey, but first you talked about the DJ invasion and the men on the landing craft.
	And what they looked at and what they had ahead of them was brutal.
	But these are men who are cut from a different kind of cloth.
	These are a different kind of American men that the machine called America, the factory just doesn't turn out anymore, unfortunately, or in very small numbers.
	My grandfather was one of those men, but he wasn't on the landing craft.
	He was in a B-17 in those giant squadrons, those thousand plane squadrons that flew in the light of day.
	over the heart of Germany, and with fighter cover only halfway in, they had to fight their way back out after dropping their bombs.
	And the kind of man he was, was that he lied about his age to get into the Army Air Corps to fight Hitler and Hitler's Germany.
	That was the kind of man that we had in America not that long ago, sir.
	And why Matthew McConaughey?
	It's very simple.
	Alec Baldwin wasn't available.
	Oh my gosh.
	What was your grandfather's name?
	Let's salute him.
	His name was Jesse Hennington, and 17 years old when he wanted to fly B-17s.
	He didn't make the cut for flying, but he said, please get me on that airplane.
	And he was a navigator and a radio man on a B-17 shot down after, I think, 14 missions over Germany and spent nine months in Stalag 17.
	Oh my gosh.
	We salute you, Jesse Hennington, a Navigator.
	That is the America that we salute every single day, especially when we say the Pledge of Allegiance.
	God bless you, Ray.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	audio for prison fellowship yeah one second the goal of the program is to produce good citizens people that are going to be in our communities We know that at least here in Alaska, 95% of everyone incarcerated today will eventually be released, and they're coming back to our communities.
	They'll be our neighbors, they'll be our co-workers.
	So the question is, what do we want to do to see people come back into our communities with a pro-social attitude, ready to be a part of the community and be a productive part?
	Okay.
	Is Goose Creek in Alaska?
	It must be.
	Goose Creek?
	Where this guy is coming from.
	John says South Carolina.
	Oh.
	So why is he talking about Alaska?
	Oh, he grew up in Alaska.
	Okay.
	Do we have a picture for him?
	Uh, yes.
	Go ahead and show it.
	It's from his LinkedIn profile.
	Oh, that's not good.
	No, don't use that.
	That's the only picture of him that exists online.
	It's bad.
	I mean, it's pixelated.
	It's not good quality.
	Okay.
	I looked everywhere.
	There's nothing else for him.
	Not on the website.
	There's nothing available for him online.
	Alright, he's on.
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	The End America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You don't, you don't say it here because we are America First and I'm your host Sebastian Gorka.
	Have you thought, have you ever considered what the real purpose of incarceration is in America?
	Is it to keep criminals out of society?
	Because if you did, Well, you're wrong, because the vast majority of them end up back in society.
	How does that transition go for them?
	Can they be functioning members who actually contribute to that society?
	Let's ask somebody who works very closely with them.
	He is the program manager for the Prison Fellowship Academy at Goose Creek Correctional Center.
	Todd Stafford, welcome to America First!
	Thank you very much.
	It's a pleasure to be here.
	So Todd, before you got involved with Prison Fellowship, I think you probably had the same attitude to what the penal system is meant to do.
	How has that changed now that you are running programs for the Academy?
	So, prior to getting involved in prison ministry and prison work, I assumed that prisons were a place where people came out better than when they went in.
	But it's just not the truth.
	I was tough on crime, lock them up, let them suffer every minute.
	And I still would say I'm tough on crime, but I want to be even tougher on rehabilitation.
	95% of those incarcerated today are returning to society after they finish their sentence.
	They're going to be your neighbors, your co-workers, your kids are going to play on the same baseball team.
	And so what sort of people do we want them to be when that happens, when they get out?
	And what are they getting in prison in terms of rehabilitation to help that healthy transformation occur?
	And it varies from prison to prison, in some cases not much, but Prison Fellowship offers a program called The Academy.
	It's a one-year program that inmates can enroll in.
	It involves about 500 hours of class time, and we use targeted curriculum, compassionate coaching, and restorative community to help participants on the journey towards good citizenship, how to be a good member of society.
	Right.
	Talk to us about what the program consists of and especially once they've done the Academy, they're released into the world.
	They're free men and women.
	How does that continue if they're living in a metropolitan area?
	How do you assist them after the release?
	Right.
	And so the Academy uses topics such as communication, goal setting, emotions, problem solving, value formation, and more to help them make a shift in their thinking.
	A lot of times the question is asked to me, do you guys provide like vocational training, how to weld, how to be a carpenter?
	And we don't, but, you know, if you get that training, because there is some of that training here in our facility at least, but you get on the job and the first time your boss tells you to do something, you throw a fit because you don't want to, then that's not going to help you.
	And so we teach the life skills necessary of how to function in society.
	And then once they graduate, they can take advantage of other opportunities of leadership either here in our program or if they're released.
	We partner with reentry homes and reentry organizations across America and in just about every area to help them as a transition back in to society and back into life outside of prison.
	Will you share with us an impression of what you've seen in terms of grace enacted in real life?
	I know this program is open to Anybody of any religious denomination or atheist, but this is you know a biblically based fellowship program So can you share how lives are transformed by the Academy?
	Yeah, I've got a gentleman.
	He's coming towards the end of about 15 years of incarceration and As he's been in the program.
	He says this more than anything else He's done in prison has changed how he looks at things and he realizes that there's consequences to his actions and And that he can't just continue to skirt outside the rules, and that the rules are there for a reason, and if he's going to be a functioning member of society, he's going to have to do... he just can't do things the way he wants to do them.
	He's going to have to do it in a way that's positive and productive.
	I want people who are listening to know about what we are giving away through the Academy.
	It's this 14-day devotional that you can get at my website.
	Who writes those devotionals, Todd?
	So those devotional entries are written by people who currently are formerly incarcerated, and they, of course, have a view on grace and restoration that is unique because they've walked through that process.
	Yeah, guys, I want you to check it out right now.
	Please go to our website sebgawker.com and click on the Breaking the Cycle of Crime at the top and get your free 14-day devotional to find out more about this incredible program.
	We've been talking to Todd Stafford, Program Manager for the Prison Fellowship Academy at Goose Creek Correctional Center.
	God bless you and everybody who's working in the academy today.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Line one, Sam Orlando.
	Welcome to America First, Sam.
	Sebastian, thanks for letting me talk, boss.
	And I enjoyed meeting you there at Seminole Harley that day.
	That was great.
	Oh, that was fun at the Harley dealership.
	Yeah, that's where we should have all of our events.
	Whoa, I almost bought a bike over that.
	Yes, I almost bought a bike.
	Yep, yep.
	Okay, so listen, I'm really concerned.
	We got the 2,000 mules out there that prove that we were Are you there, my friend, Sam?
	Did we lose you?
	Yes, I'm here.
	I'm here.
	I've got a neighbor trying to be annoying.
	I just had a point at him.
	Let him know I'm going to squish his car if he doesn't stop doing that.
	His little remote thing.
	Anyway, so what I was getting at is this Thursday meeting that we're about to go through, and the 2,000 mules that we have, all the evidence, Is this Thursday event going to keep Donald Trump from being able to run again?
	You mean the January 6th commission?
	The televised event?
	Are you kidding me, Sam?
	Are you kidding me?
	An event that was so... I'm worried.
	I'm worried.
	Well, you shouldn't be.
	And I think you may be not listening to the show enough.
	Seriously, an illegal committee that they have to hire 18... It's totally illegal.
	You're gonna let me talk now, Sam?
	An illegal committee that is so useless they have to hire a TV producer to try and make it interesting?
	No.
	I think the more they do this, the more they will inflame the base, and in fact, people who aren't political will see through this and say, this is wrong.
	This is an outrage.
	You look at the open border, the lack of baby formula, the inflation, the price of gas, the war in Ukraine, the disaster in Afghanistan, and they want to televise this?
	They're not going to televise a hearing on baby formula!
	That's what the American people will see, Sam.
	So no, it will have the opposite effect, and it will blow back in their faces.
	Thank you, Sam.
	Stop worrying.
	We've got a nation to save.
	You can't do that by worrying.
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	See, but when I play cut 13, I need my mic to stay on so I can read what's on the screen.
	Because usually you cut my mic, right?
	Yeah, I usually mute it.
	Are you doing that prison read or did we just take care of it?
	We just did it.
	Do you want to post that video on Rumble or as a Vimeo link?
	Sorry?
	The video of Stafford, do you want that on Vimeo or Rumble?
	Uh, rumble.
	Okay.
	And then, can you play me 11 and 12?
	11, go ahead.
	I just want to get back to what you said a minute ago with Saudi Arabia.
	I mean, finding more oil and getting it up to market is such a key part of the broader strategy with Russia right now.
	When OPEC Plus made that announcement, you put out a statement saying, we recognize the role of Saudi Arabia in achieving this consensus.
	You're saying, when the President, when senior administration officials are talking to people in Saudi Arabia, the question of oil production never comes up?
	I'm saying it's not the focus.
	It's not on the agenda, right?
	That's something for OPEC Plus to decide.
	Clearly, Saudi Arabia chairs that.
	And so we just want to be very clear on that.
	On the solar panels, how is this not a gift to Chinese solar manufacturers, many of whom operate with forced labor and are subsidized by the Chinese Communist Party?
	You know, today's announcement is about one country and one country alone.
	And it's about the United States.
	Alright.
	Coming in with anything?
	No.
	Okay.
	Alright.
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	You dirty old man!
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	I meant to read this yesterday.
	This is from the Texas House of Representatives, Brian Slattern, District 2.
	He has proposed the following.
	The events of this past weekend were horrifying and show a disturbing trend in which Perverted adults are obsessed with sexualizing young children.
	As a father of two young children, I would never take my children to a drag show, and I know the Speaker and the rest of my Republican colleagues wouldn't either.
	Protecting our children isn't enough, and our responsibility as lawmakers extends to the sexualization that is happening across Texas.
	Representative Slatton has already announced that he will continue to fight to make sex change therapies as well, child abuse if done on minors.
	Similar legislation was killed by Republicans in the House in 2021.
	I wonder why?
	Why is that?
	Because there are too many rhinos.
	Let's go to Scottsdale, Arizona.
	David, line two.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	Long time, buddy.
	Yeah, it has been.
	Hey, I saw the picture of you holding that new Staccato C2.
	Very cool.
	Yes, my latest acquisition.
	Top of the line from Staccato.
	Thank you, guys.
	Shoots like a flipping laser, that gun.
	Doesn't blow the lungs out of anybody you shoot, at least.
	I haven't heard any reports of that, but it's mighty accurate.
	Sebastian, I have the same model and I love it.
	It's my new carry gun.
	Wow.
	I was carrying a Smith & Wesson .45 compact.
	Totally switched it to the Staccato.
	Love it.
	What were you carrying, the M&P?
	It was the M&P compact .45.
	Yeah, I have the .40 cal version, a nice gun as well.
	What loads are you carrying in the Staccato?
	What's your 9 mil load of choice?
	Um, well, I'm, you know, I've got, um, this one called, um, well, I've got range ammo in the, in the moment, because I've been going to the range a lot.
	Uh-huh.
	But, um, basically, you know, for concealed carrying stuff, I have different hollow pipes.
	Good.
	Uh, Underwood, Underwood Armory.
	I've heard of Underwood Armory.
	Underwood.
	That's serious ammunition.
	That's heavy duty.
	The Underwood is what you use for the deer with the Kevlar vest, David.
	Right.
	But, well, I have it for home defense and concealed carry, so it's all good.
	But I have a question.
	Alright, we've got 60 seconds.
	You've got to get it out quick.
	Leather or kydex holsters for that?
	What do you prefer?
	That is a tough, tough question.
	So, OK, I love leather.
	I've got a custom guy.
	You know who you are, Brandon, who makes my kydex holsters.
	The trouble is kydex wears the gun.
	So if you have a high end gun like I've got an original, Nickel-plated P7 from H&K.
	I cannot put that in a Kydex holster because it just damages it eventually.
	If it's a carry gun and it's blued, which you can always get re-blued, you can put it in Kydex.
	But at the end of the day, I'm old school.
	I do like leather.
	How about you?
	I got a custom-made leather one for the staccato.
	All right, stay on the line.
	I need to know who made that.
	Stay on the line.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Next up, former media mogul, lord of the British House of Lords, Lord Conrad Black.
	Oh, can I talk to him?
	That's a good one.
	Go after it.
	Thank you.
	You can put the camera back on him.
	Lord Black!
	Yes, sir?
	How are you doing?
	I'm fine, thanks.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Have you had a chance to watch the movie?
	Yeah, I thought it was very interesting.
	It is amazing how...
	Uh, the media have, uh, you know, the most of the media have just ignored this.
	I mean, they're still clinging to the idea that there is no possible question about the last election.
	All right.
	Well, we will discuss in much, much more.
	Uh, Eric, I'm going to use the Navarro cut again with Lord Black and, and I will use the, um, Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, the poster.
	Actually, come in with that after the liner.
	Come in with five.
	Come in with five, so no liner, right, Geoff?
	Or whatever, yeah.
	Okay, so come in with cut five, no liner.
	I've got all his books ready, as usual.
	excellent stand by you you you you you you
	you you you you you you you
	If you're a Republican running for re-election or trying to unseat a Democrat, things are looking pretty good, right?
	I would say they're looking very good from a historical context.
	So basically, I took the best Republican positions on the generic congressional ballot at this point in midterm cycle since 1938.
	That generic ballot basically is, would you vote for the generic Republican or generic Democrat in your district?
	And guess what?
	Since 1938, the Republican two-point lead on the generic congressional ballot is the best position for Republicans at this point in any midterm cycle in over 80 years.
	That is a CNN pollster getting very, very excited there with the latest showings on a generic ballot.
	So that's not a specific candidate.
	It's just asking whether you'd vote for Democrat or Republican.
	And the plus two for Republicans is the best.
	The best in 80 years, according to that CNN poll.
	What does it mean?
	Can it hold until November, or will they pull another rabbit out of the hat?
	Let's ask our regular friend and guest here on America First, Lord Conrad Black, the author of so many works, all of them worth your time.
	Most recently, Donald J. Trump, a president like none other.
	Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you very much, Sebastian.
	Conrad, to have CNN get so excited over what seems to be a historic lead for the Republicans, isn't that a turn up for the books?
	Yeah, it is, and you know, to give us, if I may, do it, both of us, the credit we deserve, you and I have both predicted this on this program in the past, because the media is anyone with the slightest acquaintance with the national political media is aware with the fewest exceptions had absolutely no integrity so despite their their fervent partisanship they were never going to go down with the ship with joe biden
	uh they they did their best they did a herculean job putting him into office and conducted the campaign forum since he scarcely left his his basement uh and they've done their best to cover up or underemphasize or make light of the innumerable fiascos and disasters that have happened in this administration but they are not going down with the ship
	And I happened to see, as it appeared, the telecast that you just quoted from, and I thought that their predictions, despite the alarmist language, were modest compared to what is coming.
	I mean, if you take an objective look, not a CNN look, At the polls, I think that the Democrats, if things hold, are likely to do much worse than that man on CNN predicted.
	He had the Republicans coming in with around 200, as I recall, 245 to 260 members of Congress.
	And House of Representatives, and the polls I see show them doing even better than that.
	But on your question of can they pull it out, I don't think this administration can itself pull out any of these crises they've got the country into.
	But I would say this, there is just a chance, and again this is something we've touched upon before, that somebody in the administration, it wouldn't be the President or the Vice President I think,
	But conceivably, the Secretary of Defense or the National Security Advisor, for example, or the CIA director, if he got into this, Burns, and I'm looking now at the relatively competent ones, could be influential in producing a negotiated settlement in Ukraine.
	I think there's a good chance that war will be settled by negotiation and with some intervention from A third party between now and the election, and conceivably administration could play a role in that and get some credit for it.
	But that's all I can see on their horizon.
	I mean, inflation isn't going to get better between now and then unless they take radical measures.
	The border is just going to get worse and worse.
	I mean, they would have to do a 180 degree policy turn to prevent that.
	I don't see them doing anything on crime.
	So, you know, they're just stewing in their own juice and, you know, wallowing in their own sweat.
	And they don't appear to have any regenerative abilities.
	We all remember, your listeners will all remember, that after the heavy setbacks they got in their first midterms, President Clinton and President Obama pulled themselves together well.
	I don't think it's going to happen here, before or after the midterms.
	Yeah, we will discuss your analysis on Ukraine that you've just published at the Epoch Times in the next segment.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	Follow him right now on Twitter, Conrad M. Black, co-host of the podcast Scholars and Sense with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett.
	When it comes to inflation, the ABC poll, the ABC poll finds 80%.
	You never see these kinds of figures regularly.
	80% of respondents cite inflation as their top issue.
	And only 28% approval for the current incumbent in the White House.
	Can any of this, can a smoke screen be deployed, Lord Black, with the much hullabaloo being made on the Thursday performance of the January 6th committee, the hiring of a TV executive, the primetime coverage.
	Is this perhaps their attempt to distract America from the real state of affairs?
	I think it's part of it, and I think they're placing the rest of their bets on abortion.
	But, you know, people have whatever views they have on abortion, but even if the leaked document of an outlying judgment of the Supreme Court is accurate, that doesn't prevent abortions from happening.
	It doesn't seek to do that.
	It rolls it back to the states.
	And in any case, abortion has nothing to do with inflation and open border.
	You can be mad as hell about abortion, but on the other hand, whatever your views on abortion are, they don't put the gas in your car.
	So, look, I think, as I said, the only other thing that might help them, it would be a kind of prestige item in foreign policy.
	And the only one I can see is if some of the relatively few serious people in the administration, but I do have some, to be fair, if they played a role in helping to produce a negotiated settlement in Ukraine.
	But on these major issues that are uppermost in the public's mind from all these polls, inflation, crime, the border, I mean, yes, in theory, they could do something.
	But it would require absolutely a 300 percent quantum leap in the competence of key personnel and their installation in double-click time and a 180-degree policy turn in all of these areas.
	And I don't see it.
	As far as I can see, the far left, the Sanders AOC wing, is taking that party all the way And they must know they're going to take a terrible trip to the woodshed, but their explanation is that's because Biden didn't go far enough.
	If he'd listened to them, it all would have worked.
	We had a caller in the last hour who's very, very concerned with this televised hearing.
	I think it could actually blow back.
	It could boomerang with this obsession on January 6th.
	Do you think this helps or hinders the Democrat case in November?
	I think that if it does either, if it isn't just irrelevant, it will hinder it.
	I think that particularly with the tremendous amount of sweeping under the carpet and generally obfuscating that has been conducted in respect of the
	2016 election on this shameful judgment in the Sussman case, but the clear admission by Mrs. Clinton's campaign manager that she approved this entire corrupt, fraudulent, smear campaign about Russia, I don't think they're in any position to take the high ground the way they did in the entire term that President Trump was there, purporting to be the guardians of the chastity and morality of American politics.
	And the bottom line on the whole January 6th thing, as they have admitted, is they have absolutely not one shred of evidence that President Trump is planning to do anything illegal.
	And so the rest of it is just nonsense.
	It's optics and pyrotechnics and histrionics, but it won't lead anywhere.
	And it'll be easy to debunk.
	I think the country is getting terribly skeptical of the moralizing of this gang of absolute hypocrites that are responsible for the most We're going to play a clip of one of those moralizing hysterically in the next segment.
	That's Liz Cheney.
	In the meantime, we will also have an opportunity to discuss 2000 Mules.
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	Will you play that train cut again for me right now, Eric?
	Oh.
	What keeps Kevin McCarthy close to Trump?
	Fear or something else?
	I think some of it is fear.
	I think it's also craven political calculation.
	I think that he has decided that, you know, the most important thing to him is to attempt to be Speaker of the House.
	And therefore, he is embracing those in our party who are anti-Semitic.
	He is embracing those in our party who are white nationalists.
	He's lying about what happened on January 6th, and he's turned his back on the Constitution.
	Incredible.
	All right, we'll play that for Conrad, but come in with the Navarro cut, would you?
	And then I'll tee up Cheney.
	Okay.
	Sounds exactly like her dad.
	Where is the source?
	Sebastian?
	Sorry?
	Yes.
	Sebastian, was that Liz Cheney?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	She's gone completely nuts.
	I know.
	She's taken leave of her sentence.
	White supremacists.
	Incredible.
	What's the source for that, Jeff?
	That's Robert Costa.
	So that was a post video?
	Oh that was Costa?
	When I flew to Mar-a-Lago, I'm on the plane and half an hour into the flight, the guy next to me pulls down his mask and says, oh by the way I'm Robert Costa, I thought you should know.
	No idea who he is and I didn't care to know anyway.
	I have to ask you, Conrad, I always look at your Twitter feed when you come on the show so I can quote you.
	I absolutely adore the photograph at the top, your sideways glance at the photographer.
	Is there a story behind that?
	In the limo.
	I'm sorry, where was that picture?
	The top, the masthead of your Twitter account.
	You're sitting in a limo with a very beautiful lady.
	And you're looking sideways with a wry grin at the photographer.
	That was just one of those things with a lot of photographers around, so I was just sort of looking at this bunch of photographers, you know, when you get the bright flashes and the strobe lights.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I forget when it was again.
	It's a fabulous photograph.
	It's such a good choice.
	90 seconds.
	That is my wife, I want to emphasize.
	I'm sure, yes, I have never met her, so I believe you.
	All right, so come in with Navarro, and then I'll tee up Chaney, and then we'll take it from there.
	What have we got?
	We've got C&E... How many cuts have we got?
	We've got... Yeah, yeah, open them up.
	I'm sending you a Twitter account, Jeff, that somebody recommended.
	It's a Ukrainian pasta that might be of interest.
	All right.
	All right.
	Forty seconds, Conrad.
	How do you think it's going, Sebastian?
	It seemed remarkable.
	I've never seen a political entity be so bereft of a sense of reality.
	I mean, truly.
	And they're disintegrating every week.
	It seems to me it gets worse every week.
	Not one glimmer of understanding of what's going on in America.
	Stand by. Stand by.
	Stand by. Stand by. Stand by. Stand by. Stand by.
	Instead of calling me and saying, hey we need you down at court.
	We've got a warrant for you.
	I would have gladly come.
	What did they do?
	They intercepted me getting on the plane.
	And then they put me in handcuffs.
	They bring me here.
	They put me in leg irons.
	They stick me in a cell.
	By the way, just historical note, I was in John Hinckley's cell.
	They seem to think that that was like an important historical note.
	That's punitive.
	What they did to me today violated the Constitution.
	That's my former colleague.
	He was assistant to President Trump for Economic Affairs, Peter Navarro, who lives one block from the FBI headquarters, explaining what happened to him at the airport in DC as he was shackled, put into leg irons by federal law enforcement agents for the charge, not of drug smuggling or mass murder, but for being in contempt of Congress.
	I can't recall when anyone was put in leg irons, In the last hundred years for contempt of Congress.
	What does it look like from outside of the United States?
	Let's ask our good friend.
	Lord Black, you have had your own Dantian experience with the judicial system in America.
	That gives you a very special perspective.
	How do others in Canada?
	Is this in the news?
	Is there any reaction to what seemingly is political targeting of Republicans by this administration?
	No, I can't claim that Canadians or the British, where I also live, pay that much attention to that.
	I mean, frankly, foreigners generally, informed foreigners, recognize that the United States has a peculiar justice system, and they don't really understand it.
	They, of course, accept and believe that the United States is, as it is, ultimately a democracy that respects human liberty and has an exemplary record in protecting and advancing the cause of freedom throughout the world.
	But the way its justice system operates is incomprehensible to foreigners.
	They don't understand why there's such heavy sentences, why there's such a heavy incarceration rate.
	I mean, a country with 5% of the world's population has a quarter of the world's incarcerated people, and the highest conviction rate of any justice system amongst free countries of the world.
	And they don't understand.
	It's a fetish of arresting people and handcuffing them and so forth when they're absolutely not flight risks.
	I mean, it's just nonsense.
	The treatment of Manafort for Paul Manafort, remember, was just unbelievable.
	But in fairness, I think most people feel, look, the United States can govern itself any way it wants.
	It's odd, and we wouldn't do it, and we don't do it, but that's how they do it, and that's America.
	But most foreigners don't get into the details too much, and in this case, Peter Navarro outside the United States would be seen as a relatively junior official.
	I mean, not to diminish him, but someone who's not that prominent in the minds of people in other countries.
	But I will say this, I think there was quite an eye-opener for
	All those who follow American affairs everywhere in the Western world, when Hillary Clinton's campaign manager just acknowledged, virtually volunteered, almost being asked, as I saw it, that she had seen and had approved going public with this completely spurious connection between Donald Trump and the Alpha Bank, the Russian bank, and I think
	There had been a lingering hope that the candidate herself had simply not been vigilant, as some of her partisans got a little carried away, a little bit like Mr. Nixon in 1972.
	He didn't know anything about the Watergate or any illegal activity like that, forcing entry, in that case, in the Democratic headquarters.
	And it came as a most unpleasant surprise to him.
	But, I mean, here we have Mrs. Clinton approving it.
	And I think that has been a real eye-opener to those who were not disposed to hear the words to begin with.
	The committee that held Navarro in contempt has two alleged Republicans in it.
	One of them is Liz Cheney, who has this to say about her own minority leader.
	This is the Washington Post interview with Congresswoman Cheney.
	Cut eight!
	What keeps Kevin McCarthy close to Trump?
	Fear or something else?
	I think some of it is fear.
	I think it's also craven political calculation.
	I think that he has decided that, you know, the most important thing to him is to attempt to be Speaker of the House.
	And therefore, he is embracing those in our party who are anti-Semitic.
	He is embracing those in our party who are white nationalists.
	He's lying about what happened on January 6th, and he's turned his back on the Constitution.
	It's one thing, Lord Black, to have a member of the squad hurl that kind of calumny, but to have a Republican member of Congress say that about her minority leader?
	Well, the former third-ranking The Republican in the House of Representatives and daughter of the former Vice President and Secretary of Defense.
	It's absolutely shocking.
	But for those remarks that were just, you just broadcast, I would say make a prima facie case that Ms.
	Cheney is mad.
	I mean, she's clinically taken leave of her senses.
	Saying that Trump has anything to do with anti-Semitism or white supremacy is simply an outrage.
	I'm not, you know, it's like, Uh, saying, let's throw this person in the water and if they...
	If they don't sink, or if they do sink, they were innocent.
	I mean, it's just absurd.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	The latest piece is in Epoch Times.
	We are posting it right now.
	Conrad Black's The Origins and Purposes of the Ukrainian War.
	In a nutshell, in the last minute and a half we have with you, the importance of this conflict is denied by many observers.
	They want to Be isolationist, it has geopolitical relevance, but you see a potential role for America to play in stopping the conflict?
	Yes.
	Look, I'm appalled that people I generally agree with, such as my dear friend Laura Ingram, are making almost pro-Russian noises, but are dismissive of the importance of this war to the West.
	If Russia succeeded in reabsorbing Ukraine into Russia and crushing the attempt to turn that country into a democracy, Ukraine, it would be a terrible, heavy blow for the West.
	It would be not quite as heavy a blow as the fall of France in 1940, but something almost close to that.
	And it distresses me that they don't see the strategic importance of it, although I understand and agree with their criticism of the Pentagon.
	And indeed, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs said at the outset that the war would be over in a couple of weeks.
	But yes, the fact is, you can't totally humiliate Russia.
	It's a much more powerful country than Ukraine, and they do have some legitimate interests in at least the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine.
	You can't suppress the Ukrainians.
	They're irrepressible and magnificently courageous and well-armed.
	And they have others to pay for the war for them.
	And they will fight to the bitter end, especially in the memory of the 8 million killed by Stalin in the Holomodor.
	We've been talking to Lord Conrad Black, Conrad M. Black on Twitter.
	Listen to the podcast as well.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Well, Black, have you identified, because have you identified, because I still struggle with this, I understand the isolationism of the 30s, but to have the likes of Laura I understand the isolationism of the 30s, but to have the likes of Laura and Tucker be so doctrinaire
	Do you have any idea?
	Well, I don't know Tucker personally.
	I certainly know Laura well, and in her case I think a lot of it is disillusionment with the Pentagon.
	She's just so outraged at how many bad decisions they made, at the role in Afghanistan, latter phase of Afghanistan.
	the betrayal in the case of General Milley of the former president over the walk to the president's church and so forth, that she's laying at the door of the Pentagon a kind of unquenchable that she's laying at the door of the Pentagon a kind of unquenchable ambition for more war and more spending on defense and not necessarily
	I mean, the fact is we appear to be I'm using the American we now, taking the liberty, but we appear to be behind the Russians and the Chinese in hypersonic missiles, and we appear not at this point to have adequate defenses for the Nimitz-class carriers, which were the core of the Navy and the ability to project American power.
	They're magnificent ships, but they're inadequately protected.
	You know, she's just so upset at the Pentagon's incompetence that she thinks that, you know, here we go again with just another insane, stupid, violent foreign commitment like Vietnam and Afghanistan.
	And, I mean, not all wars are the same.
	It's not a cookie cutter.
	You've got to examine each one on its merits.
	By the way, we could have won in Vietnam if the Democrats who got us in hadn't double-crossed Nixon the way they did.
	Right.
	No.
	That book still has to be rewritten.
	You've rewritten the story on Nixon, but Vietnam is still sorely misunderstood.
	All right, we ran out of time.
	We've got to talk about the movie 2,000 Mules next week.
	It was a good session, though, today, wasn't it?
	It was excellent, yeah, and I'm so glad we're sticking to the landline.
	It makes it much, much better as well.
	Excellent.
	Good.
	Good.
	All right.
	Talk to you next week.
	Thank you for all that.
	I think it'll be fine next week, but I have to go out west.
	I just want to make sure when it is.
	If there's a problem, I'll... Oh, yeah.
	If you need to move it, just tell us.
	Just tell Jeff.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Super.
	Thanks for that.
	Safe travels.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay.
	Title for that one.
	Liz Cheney is clinically mad.
	I still think at the end of the day what broke her is the fact that Trump basically criticized her father the same way the Democrats did.
	Basically called him a war criminal, and was like, yeah, these wars were wrong, and that's where she drew the line.
	When did he call Cheney a war criminal?
	I mean, I don't think he used the exact terminology, but he criticized, like, the wars of, like, the Bush-Cheney administration.
	You know, he basically said, you know, no more.
	That's a reason to say that he's a Nazi?
	I think so, yeah.
	She was that offended that he dared to criticize her father.
	It's like, you know, that's something that she took from the Democrats for obvious reasons, but the moment that Alright, I'm gonna probably use Rittenhouse, The Burger King, Buffer, what else?
	the party says that she just loses her mind all right i'm gonna probably use written house the burger king buffer what else all right oh and steve cohen all right guilty yeah
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	Wow!
	We've got a liner from Ted Nugent?
	Yes, back when he was on in the old studio.
	Wow, you are really digging up the classics.
	Love that.
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	Okay, we've got some calls on the line.
	We'll get to those momentarily.
	But Carl Rittenhouse is back in the news.
	We have to get him back on the show.
	We had him on the show from, what was it, CPAC or Turning Point USA?
	That was a great, great interview.
	We should repost that, Jeff.
	Let's put that up on our all our social media feeds but he was on Tucker Carlson and you can't keep a good man down if he and even if he's young like Kyle he's got a man he's got a mission and he's going to take on the lying legacy media.
	Cut four!
	Well, we're going to make the media pay for what they did to me.
	They made it hard for me to live a normal life.
	I can't go out into public.
	I can't go to the store.
	It's hard for me to go anywhere without security.
	Doing basic things like taking my dog to the dog park is difficult.
	So, they made it really difficult to be normal and they affected future job opportunities to me.
	I don't think I'll ever be able to work or get a job because I'm afraid an employer may not hire me.
	Yeah, how much money has he got already?
	Eric, do you remember?
	How much money has he won?
	I think there was no official statement, but he's sitting quite pretty already, isn't he?
	I think so, yeah.
	I think the settlements are undisclosed this time, kind of like the Sandman stuff, but you can definitely bet that those media companies have a lot of money they can afford to pay.
	10, 20 million, yes.
	But he needs to get his life back, but using some of that money to take the war to the leftist propaganda machine, Is a very good use of that money.
	So I follow a couple from my past life.
	I worked with the guys that do the information operations at Fort Bragg.
	Not just the the Green Berets, but the Civil Affairs and PSYOP guys.
	And they have a very good new commander at one of the PSYOP units.
	And they post on social media some very good videos now and again.
	And the latest Well, it's a definition of propaganda.
	They're talking about our enemies like Russia and China, but it really applies to what's happening here domestically.
	We'll get to your calls.
	The call board is lining up, but let me speak for those who are listening and aren't watching.
	Keep my mic on and I'll read what this video says.
	It's just 20 seconds long.
	It's from Fort Bragg and it's about what propaganda really is.
	Cut 13.
	Cut 13.
	Like Russia.
	Like China.
	Like Iran.
	It's meant to stop you from being able to analyze in a critical way.
	And it is an assault on truth.
	It applies not just to our enemies, but to those domestically who are propagating propaganda such as critical race theory and transgenderism, both of which deny objective truth.
	Okay, let's go to your calls.
	Steve Atlanta, line one.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka?
	Yes?
	Hey, the January 6th Commission being aired on television, I think it's going to fail and more likely backfire for the simple reason that, okay, America has a lot of problems right now.
	Inflation, high energy prices, crime, and the people who are in Congress, they have the power to do something about it.
	But they're spending their time and energy on this, and I think people see that, and that's why it's going to fail.
	Plus, they have nothing of substance.
	It's going to be dull, which might even be worse than if it's in prime time.
	I think you've nailed it.
	I think our earlier caller was worried for no good reason.
	Number one, it's going to be really boring.
	I don't think people are going to tune in.
	And if they do, they're going to say, hang on, you're talking about this and not the fact that we don't have baby formula or there's another illegal caravan, so they will pay the political price for not focusing on the things that really matter.
	Nicely put, Steve.
	Another major disconnect of our people, people who are supposed to be looking out for us.
	Thank you, my friend.
	We'll be back to your calls momentarily.
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	So we got Laxalt Skype this segment.
	Skype, right Jeff?
	Okay.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Two and a half minutes.
	All right, Mr. Laxal, just letting you know the mics are currently live on Rumble, our video stream at this time.
	All right.
	We have two minutes to air.
	How you doing?
	We're doing great.
	Good.
	We're rocking and rolling here, closing with a strong statewide tour.
	Excellent.
	Any dirty tricks being deployed against you?
	Oh, tons.
	I mean, it's just actually totally crazy.
	How far my primary opponent is going here once he realizes he's going to lose the race.
	That's happening everywhere.
	It's happening everywhere.
	Alright, 90 seconds, and then we are live.
	Not coming in with any clips or anything this segment?
	Uh, no.
	Um, duh-duh-duh-duh-duh.
	Played half of them at least, I think.
	Rittenhouse, Janine, Chaney.
	No, more than half.
	Navarro.
	Oh, actually, come in with cut seven.
	Come in with cut seven, so no liner.
	alrighty sounds good fifty seconds Looks like you live on your phone like I have to too, huh?
	Well, um, that's the curse of the modern age.
	No question.
	No question.
	Alright, call mics.
	Yep. Yep.
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	Please leave a message after the tone.
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	Hello, this is Greg Kelly.
	I'm a concerned citizen.
	I live in New York, but I saw a horrible video.
	It's gone viral.
	Very easy to find online.
	Dancing transvestites with young children.
	It happened in the heart of Dallas.
	It seemed like it was incredibly inappropriate, brutal, and probably criminal.
	I'm sure somebody's breaking the law.
	You guys need to find this video.
	You can, uh... You can call me.
	My number is, uh... And I'll help you find it online.
	And somebody's gotta do something about this.
	Thank you.
	That is the phone call from my Newsmax colleague Greg Kelly to the authorities in Texas.
	He does have a, you know, a good way of using social media.
	He posted the audio of that call telling them, you know, there's probably a crime being committed in that bar.
	Number one, what are underage individuals, children, doing in that bar?
	And then what is sexually explicit activity, such as a drag queen fest, doing, being held in front of those children?
	Don't forget every Sunday we're gonna have an amazing show this Sunday on the consequences of Uvalde on Newsmax.
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	There's some shenanigans going on.
	It's primary day.
	Why are the rhinos so despicable?
	Let's ask somebody who is trying to serve the nation for a third time.
	He's not only served in uniform in the Navy.
	He is a veteran of combat.
	He served as the former Attorney General of Nevada.
	And now he's running for the Senate.
	Adam Laxalt, welcome to America First.
	Thanks for having me again.
	So how's it going?
	And tell us about the dirty tricks going on in Nevada.
	Well, look, first and foremost, primaries a week away.
	We feel great.
	We're working hard all the way till the end.
	I'm one of the few candidates in America that had President Trump's endorsement in the first week.
	Yeah.
	And there's no question that people are ready for a immediate break from President Biden and his disastrous policies.
	There's no place better than Nevada for people to know the difference of what it was like to live under President Trump and that economy and the law and order that we had here versus what we're experiencing in Nevada today where everything is heading dramatically in the wrong direction.
	And so we feel good.
	There's no question.
	We've got a lot of support across the state.
	But yeah, look, when your primary opponent wakes up and is a week out and realizes they're not going to catch up, they throw everything they can at the wall.
	Family attacks, attacks on my military record, teaming up with NBC and the Lincoln Project.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Your primary opponent is working with the scumbags at the Lincoln Project?
	Well, you know...
	They had a very similar message coming down the pipe within 24 hours, attacking my mother and her choice to bring me into this world as a single mom.
	And so, again, just the lowest of the low, really, really dirty attacks.
	But look, I'm the guy that actually stood for this state as Attorney General.
	We stood against Barack Obama every single day.
	And then we worked with President Trump when he became the president.
	And to be the chairman of the campaign, people know they can rely on me.
	They know I'm a trusted conservative.
	We feel great about the primary, and we think people just have to be wildly offended at how far a primary opponent's willing to go.
	Yeah, we heard the same thing from a conservative candidate, Steve Gray, in New Jersey just the last hour.
	Speak to—everybody needs to go out and vote.
	You've got to vote in the primary.
	Adam, tell us about Respond to those who are really concerned that this is a state that could be lost to common sense, that is being infiltrated by those who are bringing their politics from elsewhere and could really undermine the economic and political health of Nevada.
	Can you give a reassuring message for holding to the principles that made that one of the greatest states of the Union?
	Look, I don't think there's a better cycle than this cycle for common sense to prevail, for conservative values to prevail.
	The bottom line is we're on the top of every single bad list right now.
	You know, we've got the open border has led to all time spikes in human trafficking, fentanyl trafficking, drug overdoses.
	We've got spikes in crime.
	We're number two in gas.
	Inflation is through the roof.
	You know, we have it all in spades.
	And so I think people have finally woken up to the fact that the Democrats, they're in charge here.
	They're in charge nationally.
	They can't keep blaming President Trump like they did all those last years.
	And the reality is they have themselves to blame for the direction of our country and our state.
	So we feel great.
	We've got to remind people that Nevada is a dead even state.
	It was a two point presidential contest.
	This is not a blue state.
	We're not Colorado.
	We're not New Mexico.
	We're not one of these 10 point states.
	And so with everything that's going on right now, moderate Democrats are absolutely fed up with the Democrat Party.
	The independents are with us.
	The Hispanic community is breaking 50-50 right now and so I absolutely think that our values are going to prevail and people understand that putting America first actually is better for security, pocketbook, patriotism, the America dream, you name it.
	All right.
	AdamLaxalt.com.
	That's L-A-X-A-L-T.
	We've got 20 seconds left.
	Your message to those who say, I don't do politics.
	I don't need to be involved.
	My message is, you can ignore it all you want.
	It's coming right into your living room.
	And if you haven't seen enough, I don't know what else can do it.
	But the left is coming after our way of life.
	We've got to defeat it.
	This race can flip the Senate and help us push back.
	Yeah, it's like Trotsky said about war.
	You may not be interested in it, but it is interested in you.
	So you can't avoid politics because that's what the left have done to this country.
	You can follow him.
	He, wow, just think about how early he had that endorsement from President Trump.
	That speaks volumes.
	He's on Twitter at Adam Laxalt, L-A-X-A-L-T, or just go to adamlaxalt.com.
	Good luck, my friend.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, going to your calls next.
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	Kirk is Thursday, not tomorrow.
	Oh.
	You sure?
	That's what Kirk said.
	Alright, I'll figure it out then.
	Okay.
	I got that.
	And this one, I don't know how, it doesn't look like it's anywhere near 60.
	You want me to ask him?
	I'll work it out, it's fine.
	Put that back please, guy.
	Is this for podcast?
	No, it's for radio.
	Both for radio?
	Okay.
	Oh, that's one more thing, Seb.
	Upside ad that you did yesterday?
	They just got back to me and said that apparently the client did not approve that.
	They want you to re-record it.
	Let me find their reasoning.
	I'll send you a screenshot of the email they sent me.
	me.
	And also, oh, okay, hang on.
	40 seconds.
	This is, oh wow, this is E already.
	ready.
	All right.
	Class is now in session.
	In the court of political incorrectness, The Honorable Dr. Gorka is now presiding.
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	Dr. Gorka, I'll hold my Cold War President Truman question for another time.
	In the war in Ukraine, are there any Cossack units fighting on either side, or have they been kind of absorbed into the local populations?
	I believe there are some being deployed by Russia, but that's early reporting that I have not independently confirmed.
	Why?
	I was just wondering whether they fight to go with the winner, or the perceived winner, or the highest bidder, or they have ties to the land they're occupying, like the Dunbass.
	They have a reputation for the second reason.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Doug, Minnesota, line three.
	Dr. Yorker, what a pleasure.
	I have a t-shirt idea for you that'll go like crazy, especially to those old guys who like to drive real cars with gasoline.
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	Mike, Detroit, let's squeeze you in.
	Line 5.
	Oh yeah, Dr. Gawker, I wonder what you thought of this, because I think the most important issue I think is overlooked, and that's the fact that the military occupied our nation's capital for the first time since the War of 1812.
	And these orders were unconstitutional and illegal, you know, based on a false narrative under false pretenses.
	And I think most military officers would have felt obligated to refuse those orders.
	But Milley, he knew it was a false narrative.
	Pelosi did.
	And they went ahead and put our National Guard, you know, held them hostage, essentially, behind barbed wire with their guns pointed at their own citizens at the height of a pandemic when they should have been home taking care of their families.
	It's really outrageous and it just seems like it's overlooked.
	I think that's the real issue here that should be addressed.
	It is one of thousands of issues.
	When babies are in ICUs because they can't be fed, it is one of thousands of issues.
	But thank you, Mike.
	Yes, Millie is not an honorable man.
	He's a disgrace to the uniform he wears.
	And he is just part of the problem.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Next, one-on-one with a man who understands the MAGA movement intimately.
	How is it faring?
	And what's going to happen after November?
	Stay here on America First with me, Sebastian Gawker.
	Don't touch that dial.
	Don't touch that dial.
	Don't touch that dial.
	We have put together
	We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	This is not grandma out walking her dog.
	Bad background, bad reputation.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	This is organized crime.
	In no way, in no time, is that legal.
	- This is organized crime.
	- Do you have video evidence?
	- Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country. - What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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	The gun lobby.
	He was talking about Americans like you.
	And along with countless other Democrats this week, he was shamefully suggesting that Republicans are somehow okay with letting school shootings happen.
	They're not okay with it.
	This rhetoric is highly divisive and dangerous, and most importantly, it's wrong.
	It has no place in our politics.
	As always, in the wake of these tragedies, the various gun control policies being pushed by the left would have done nothing to prevent the horror that took place.
	Absolutely nothing.
	Very somber presentation by President Trump at the recent NRA convention after the Uvalde shooting.
	What does it mean for the midterms?
	How is the MAGA movement going?
	We're gonna ask somebody who is best positioned to answer that question.
	This is a very special one-on-one with the founder, the editor-in-chief, One of the best conservative websites out there.
	It's not just because I write for them.
	It's American Greatness and he's Chris Buskirk.
	Chris, welcome back to America First one-on-one.
	Good to talk to you.
	- Thank you, thanks for having me. - Chris, so much to discuss.
	I wanna do a deep dive on the future of America First, MAGA, what we've seen in the primaries, and basically why you created this superb website that has luminaries like Victor Davis Hanson writing regularly.
	But let me get to the very pragmatic very quickly We're five months away from the midterms.
	It seems like we're stuck in some kind of chronic hysteresis.
	The LP is stuck in a groove.
	And it's back to the Democrats.
	It's more abortions, less guns!
	I think we've heard this before, haven't we Chris?
	We've heard it over and over and over again.
	I'm waiting for the Mostly Peaceful protest to break out again this summer, because the playbook is always the same, isn't it?
	It always is.
	So do you think this will be... I know five months is a lifetime in politics, but do you really think that this will be the mantra, this will be the platform for the Democrats?
	Because it's hard to think of what they can point at in the last 15 months that is something to be proud of.
	Joe Biden sent out a tweet or somebody sent it out in his name it was his official Twitter account this morning and he was talking about how bad the economy was when he took over as president in January of 2021 and because of him his team and his policies that we now have the most in quotes robust recovery ever in American history never mind the almost 10 percent inflation six seven dollar gas in a lot of parts of the country uh people not being able to get jobs
	supply chain breakages not even shortages supply chain breakages all over the place and this guy's on twitter literally this morning um talking about how great it all is yeah so this goes to the question and i don't know if we're wasting time I'm raising it.
	Are they deliberately ruining America, or is it just they're such hostages to their ideology that they can't see anything else except their ideology?
	Because you see that statement that he made, what was it, last week, middle of last week, with regards to the oil crisis, the fuel crisis, and he said, you know, this is the beautiful transition to electric vehicles.
	And then you just stop and you think, They really—they wouldn't be doing anything differently, Chris, if their intent was to destroy America.
	Well, yeah, right.
	It doesn't have to be an either-or.
	Is it just ideology, or are they doing it on purpose?
	Like, I always think about this as a both-and, and that is, when you know what you want, you can take advantage of opportunities as they arise.
	And I think the Democrats and the secular left really, really knows what it is that they want along a whole host of issues.
	And so some of it is certainly by design, but other things are opportunistic.
	So when things pop up, you say, aha, okay, this is a good time, place, opportunity in order to enact this or that wish list item.
	And so they're able to react very quickly on these things.
	I mean, look, the thing about, look, here's the dirty secret of electric cars.
	Which nobody on the left, I think, even knows about hardly, at least not the people in the Biden administration don't seem to know this.
	Is that we don't produce enough electricity in this country to power a nationwide fleet of electric cars.
	To some place, I think there's just like this, I don't know, it's like this fantasy world where You know, anything from oil and gas is bad because you know you have to burn it or whatever.
	Okay, and you know what, electricity?
	Well, we just plug that into the wall and it just magically comes out.
	Like, you have to do something to generate electricity.
	We don't have enough power plants.
	The kind of electricity that's required for a national fleet of electric vehicles.
	That is the dirty secret that nobody talks about.
	We literally do not have enough energy production.
	If we started building a whole armada of nuclear power stations, we might be ready in five years.
	We do not have enough electricity to charge a nation of EVs.
	How about this, Chris?
	We've got to stop for a second and just, you know, have a snapshot of reality.
	Yesterday, on Monday, we have the incumbent in the White House use the National Defense Procurement Act, use the, you know, the War Department powers as was, to manufacture solar panels whilst his cabinet members are saying, you know, The Secretary of Commerce says we don't have any ability to influence the production of baby formula.
	No, no, but we can use wartime powers to buy solar panels from China, but not to feed our babies, Chris.
	It's unbelievable.
	It really says a lot about where the priorities are.
	I mean, these are, you know, as our mutual friend J.D.
	Vance likes to say, this is a bunch of childless cat ladies who are running the administration.
	They don't think about baby formula.
	It's like a total abstraction to them.
	Because in so many cases, we don't have any kids, don't want any kids.
	And so, you know, I guess, you know, it's just those weird people in those square and rectangle states in the middle of the country who have kids, and if they can't feed them too bad, at least we can get solar panels by using government power to require that people use them.
	By the way, roll back the tape 14 years, you know, 13 or 14 years.
	One of the first priorities of the Obama administration, of which Biden was vice president, was to enact massive solar and wind subsidies back then.
	Cylindra.
	Who can forget the boondoggle of Cylindra to all of Obama's buddies?
	Yes, again, it's a chronic hysteresis.
	It's a broken record.
	We're talking to Chris Buskirk, founder, editor-in-chief of American Greatness, amgreatness.com, amgreatness.com on Twitter.
	The Chris Buskirk.
	Chris, are you on Truth Social?
	I am.
	At Chris Buskirk.
	At Chris Buskirk.
	He didn't know.
	No, no, sorry.
	Actually, it's at Buskirk.
	At Buskirk.
	Even cooler.
	All right.
	Let's, for those who aren't familiar with the website, why?
	What are you doing?
	Go to it now.
	Bookmark it.
	Before we move on to our next meaty subject, as a successful businessman, as a family man, as a successful conservative, why did you decide to get into the media business?
	Can you wind back the clock for us right now?
	And tell us why you created American Greatness.
	Yeah, I can.
	I've told this story a bunch of times, and I suspect I'm going to keep telling this story for a lot of years to come because it bears repeating.
	I had this idea for American Greatness at the end of 2015.
	At that point, it was, I think, pretty obvious to everybody that Donald Trump was going to become the nominee, or at least was obvious to a lot of us that Donald Trump was going to become the nominee.
	of the Republican Party in 2016, notwithstanding the significant efforts on the part of a lot of establishment Republicans to derail the Trump train back then.
	And what I realized at the time, and I was early to Trump in the summer of 2015, because he started talking about things that had historically been central to American conservatism.
	So things like, you know, how do we build a country that has a sustainable, growing, prosperous middle class?
	You know, how do we build a manufacturing base?
	China, illegal immigration, you know, all of these things.
	In the Trump telling of the universe, which I think was right, you know, these things all are important to the prosperity of the broad middle in this country.
	And so that really resonated with me.
	That was something even, you know, you talk about sort of foreign policy restraint, which was central to, is central to the Trump movement.
	What I realize is those things had gone out of fashion among establishment Republicans sometime from, I don't know, maybe after the end of the Cold War until Trump came on the scene, so for 30-odd years.
	And I just saw all of the establishment organs in the conservative media lining up, not just to oppose Trump, but really to do absolutely anything that they could do to discredit him personally and politically.
	And this was important, and all of the people who supported him.
	Yes.
	And my insight at that time, which I think has been proven true over time, is that the America First view of American politics and of the world needed some type of media cover.
	It needed an institution that could articulate and defend the ideas that Donald Trump was talking about.
	He was doing a great job.
	Build the wall and so forth, but there needed to be a media presence that did for him what That's what National Review did for Ronald Reagan 45, 50 years ago.
	And that was the idea.
	Yeah, and you filled a very, very needy vacuum, and I'm delighted.
	I'm honored to be a part of that.
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	Chris, I want to talk about the recent political developments in terms of primaries, the Incredible.
	What is it?
	Like 112 for 7 in terms of endorsement.
	Just unheard of success for President Trump.
	But before we get to that, since I just mentioned Dinesh, let me ask you, because I'm involved.
	I'm in the movie.
	Salem produced it.
	I've got a financial stake in it.
	I think it's amazing.
	More than a million downloads the first six days.
	More than a hundred thousand DVDs already mailed out.
	The most successful political documentary by the figures in more than a decade.
	I have to ask you, impact on the midterms when you have so many people who call themselves conservatives who are telling the president live on TV like Stuart Varney.
	It kind of blew my mind saying, oh you've got to stop talking about that stuff.
	Don't talk about what happened then.
	Talk about the next election.
	I think this is a wake-up call to many people who don't even call themselves conservatives.
	Your reaction to the evidence, Dinesh, And, Drew, the vote found?
	Yeah, look, everybody who has not seen this movie, 2,000 Mules, should watch it.
	It is very, very well researched.
	The evidence that it presents, I think, is conclusive.
	And they do it, and then they take the next step, which is they take the truth that has been ignored and or suppressed, and they present it in a way that's really aesthetically very powerful.
	And so it's a very, very good movie.
	It doesn't take long to watch.
	But I think that it will have a pretty significant impact in the midterms.
	And here's how.
	I don't know.
	It's hard for me to quantify for those people who were not sure if there's those sort of swingy type voters.
	I don't know what impact, if any, it has on those people.
	But I will tell you this.
	I think it has a big impact on getting our people out to vote.
	And this has been a concern I think to some extent still is a concern among sort of political professionals was this, which is if a small percentage of our voters think that there's no point in voting, that can make a difference in elections.
	Yes.
	Yes, yes.
	It doesn't have to be a lot.
	It's not like it has to be 20%.
	It can be 2% in a lot of states.
	If our people just are disheartened and they don't go out and vote.
	But I think what 2000 Mules does and some of the political efforts that people have where, you know, there's ballot initiatives around election integrity in some states around the country.
	In the aggregate, all of these things are actually very motivating.
	to our people and to those people who are either who are skeptical or maybe had it were in danger of being black told and not voting.
	I think it actually says, OK, we're actually we know what happened there.
	There's action we can take.
	And part of that is voting.
	Right.
	So I think it does have a very positive impact.
	Right.
	We're not crazy.
	And they failed to gaslight us.
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	Dinesh has dropped the price so even more people can see it.
	Okay, let's talk about what's happened in the last few weeks, last couple of months.
	It seems like he is, you know, the king.
	I don't think we have a kingmaker of his ilk in terms of historic endorsements and the success of those.
	What does that look like after November?
	Because whenever they come on the show, I ask the MAGA people, I ask the Matt Gates of the world, the MTGs, the Jim Jordans, What is the power relationship between America First and the swamp, or rather, you know, the rhino establishment class?
	My problem is this, that, you know, we can have loads of great primaries, even loads of great New America First candidates, but even if they win the seats, Chris, The levers of power are still in the hands of the people who have seniority.
	So, is it going to be a massive sprint to the last hundred meters and then, you know, the parachute pops out of the back and America First is drastically slowed down after November?
	How do we express the success of the President's primary endorsements into America First here in this stinking city?
	The American First candidates who are running, especially the new candidates, right?
	There are a handful of them already in Congress, both in the House and the Senate.
	You can sort of rattle off who they are.
	Fewer, obviously, in the Senate than in the House.
	But take the Senate as an example.
	We've got two fantastic candidates who I think are likely to win their seats.
	We've got J.D.
	Vance, who's now the Republican nominee for U.S.
	Senate in Ohio.
	Ohio's a Trump plus eight or Trump plus nine state.
	J.D.
	is almost certain to become a United States senator.
	And then here in Arizona, we've got Blake Masters.
	Who's running for, who's running, is still in the primary.
	Our primary is not until August, but President Trump endorsed him last Thursday.
	I think he's now becomes a prohibitive favorite to win the primary.
	And then of the candidates who are running here in Arizona, he's literally the only person, the only Republican who has a good chance of beating Mark Kelly, who's the incumbent Democrat senator here.
	And I think has a very good chance of beating them in Arizona, which, as you know, is not Ohio.
	You know, it's not a Trump plus eight or Trump plus nine state, but Blake can win that seat.
	And so think about what the United States Senate looks like when you have Senator Vance and Senator Masters.
	uh occupying two out of maybe 51 or 52 republican right seats you know and they go and they can link link arms with somebody like a josh holly from missouri this this starts to become an actual working minority inside of the republican caucus young smart energetic and powerful and And, you know, it doesn't take a lot of senators to move that caucus.
	And we'll have, you know, I think come January of next year, I think things start to look a lot better for the America First movement inside the U.S.
	Congress.
	Yeah, we just got to do something about Mitch McConnell retiring earlier than I think he would like to retire.
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	Chris, you have done something remarkable in terms of having a place for the intellectual activities of America First to be spelled out by, you know, crucial voters and not just voters but thinkers in that community.
	Have we done enough Yeah, have we done enough?
	No.
	I mean, if you ask me that next year, if I achieve every goal at American Greatness that we have, I'll still say no.
	And if we achieve and exceed every goal five years from now, I'll still say no.
	There's always a lot of work to do.
	Well, you know, you're a very successful businessman and that's the right attitude, right?
	Yeah, I mean, I think it is.
	We're never complacent.
	We've always got to keep our feet moving because there really is a lot to do.
	I mean, we sort of know what our goals are in general, but we need to achieve them.
	We've achieved some of them, but there's a lot left to do.
	It's not like we're on the one yard line of getting everything done.
	We're still, like, deep in our own territory.
	I mean, the thing about the Trump movement, about Donald Trump, Was that he shined a light on all of those things that had been ignored for a very, very long time.
	Like I was talking about earlier, you know, it's the issue of how do we deal with China?
	How do we deal with the fact that the globalists in our country have exported the United States manufacturing base, that we've exported our middle class, that we have, you know, tens of millions of illegal immigrants in this country that have been let in over the past 20 or 30 years.
	And, you know, what does that do to middle class wages?
	What does that do to neighbors?
	All of these things.
	We know what those things are, but we need to implement the fixes.
	And so part of our job is not just identifying these things.
	We have to keep up the drumbeat that, you know, just because we talked about them for the four years of the Trump administration, those things didn't all get done because the entrenched forces opposing us were significant.
	And so we still have a lot of work to do on immigration.
	We still have to rebuild the American manufacturing base.
	And it's the only way we're ever going to rebuild the American middle class, which is central to the success, the long-term success of the American project.
	If we don't do that and our middle class continues to suffer and to shrink, then I don't know how we sustain the sort of self-government and the sort of country that we have grown to know and to expect and that we want to give to our kids.
	Is there anything in the – you're talking about very concrete policy areas – Is there anything in the more philosophical domain?
	There's this argument on the forming economic nationalism, the Hazoni book and everything else.
	Is there something that you think still is a little bit too amorphous that we have to tackle head-on philosophically?
	Yeah, yeah, there is.
	And that is the role of faith in public life.
	Yes.
	And this, I think, is actually central.
	I like, you know, the Hosoni book.
	I read it.
	I think it's a very good book.
	I am sympathetic to a lot of these sort of economic nationalism arguments, as you know.
	I mean, I bang on and on about manufacturing and the middle class and wages and all those things, and I think those things are right, and we need to do something about them.
	Those are very hard, quantifiable, prescriptive areas where we can act.
	But I still come back to this thing and this idea that what we do not talk about enough in America is the role of faith in public life and in private life.
	We've sort of bought the lie that the separation of church and state somehow means that we're not supposed to talk about faith anytime but yes, I don't know, Sunday between 9 and 11 in the morning.
	I'm so glad you raised this.
	I mean, can I just hear in front of our millions of listeners, just help everybody to understand the disestablishment clause, the disestablishment concept of our Constitution says only two things.
	There must be no state religion and nobody can be punished by the state for believing the wrong religion.
	That's it.
	End of story.
	It's not that you can't pray in schools.
	It is that there is no state sanction of religion or punishment for being quote-unquote of the wrong faith.
	That's all it is, Chris.
	That's all it is.
	I mean, look, here is the truth, is that there is no successful civilization in the history of mankind that has not had some sort of super dominant religion inside of that civilization.
	Do we want to have a civilization in which there is, as you say, there's religious tolerance, people aren't persecuted for being, I don't know, Methodist versus Presbyterian or something?
	Of course, right?
	Of course we want that.
	But we also have to recognize that by pushing faith out of public life, by trying to ghettoize it, we've actually really made our civilization poorer.
	And let me go one step further.
	We still have a civil religion.
	We still have a national religion.
	The war here is Is, are we going to have a biblical-based national consensus, or are we going to have a secular consensus?
	And I don't mean one that believes in the Constitution.
	I mean, wokeism is the alternative religion.
	Right, that's another religion.
	Whether it's environmentalism, whether it's workification, it's a secular cult, it's a religion.
	And what, you know, the other way of expressing it that I like, and I didn't come up with it, is that our Founding Fathers knew that you didn't have to be a Christian To live in America as an American, but the value system of America was based on Christian values.
	Now, that's a fine distinction, but is it a crucial, crucial distinction?
	And I think we, I think we have to, let's talk offline, Chris.
	I have some ideas.
	We need to brainstorm on this issue.
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	All right, let's play that cut from a Texas roll tape.
	All right, I think that's enough. I think that's enough.
	Yes, we can.
	For those who aren't watching us but are listening, that was a transvestite, that was a drag queen performing in front of... I don't... How are children allowed into a bar to begin with, minors?
	And then what parents are taking them to an advertised drag queen event that says, that has massive neon signs on the wall of the bar saying, it's not going to lick itself?
	Chris, you know, I wish that we didn't have to talk about these things, But I have a theory, and I want to run it past you, that it's issues like this, and this may be the issue, if you look at the attempt to deny the service at the hosting site for Matt Walsh's new film What Is A Woman, the left is super sensitive to this issue of transgenderism.
	I think because this is perhaps the most powerful issue that will get people off their backsides Who otherwise aren't political and I'm going to say this insanity that is supported and funded by the left and is targeting my children has to stop.
	Do you agree that this could be one of the most influential cultural triggers to use their phrase in coming months?
	It can be.
	I think it's shaping up that way for sure.
	Anything that revolves around people's children, I think, is extremely powerful, and it should be.
	As parents, we have a responsibility to protect our children, to raise them right, and when you see evil people coming after kids this way, like what we saw in this video, that gets people's ire up, and it should, and it absolutely needs to stop.
	There is.
	I think we cannot, as People who, at just basic decency, this is not even a right-left issue, though it's becoming one.
	People who just support basic decency and treating kids right, there is almost nothing that can be done that is over the line to stop this.
	Like, this is an attack on small children, it is the sexual exploitation of kids for the pleasure of adults, and it's evil, and it has to stop.
	Are you seeing enough action?
	Because we're seeing culture warriors on the right picking up this issue.
	I don't see much happening in the conservative establishment.
	It's a little bit like January the 6th, that we have political prisoners to this day rotting in a gulag not far from this studio.
	And if it weren't for Matt Gaetz going to the prison with MTG, You know, people who we know are patriots like Louie Gohmert.
	We barely would know about this issue.
	So, is it really up to us?
	Is it up to the private citizens?
	Or can the rhinos ignore this even longer?
	Yeah, no, it's up to the private citizens.
	It's up to parents and people of good faith.
	Political people will make a political calculation on this, and they'll be afraid of the issue, because they live in a sort of detached world that's very sort of media-driven, and the media obviously is generally supportive of this type of thing, whereas normal people are not.
	And so it is going to be up to the decent people in this country, of which I still believe there's a super majority, to make this type of exploitation of kids stop.
	And it has to be done at the local level.
	As an example, the video that you just showed, which was something that took place at a, it was a discrete quantifiable event.
	It took place in a particular location at a particular time on a particular day.
	There was nothing for You know, there was nothing for Mitch McConnell to do about that, you know, or there was only something for the parents and for not just for parents, but for other people of goodwill to do about that and to and to make it stop.
	Like that is the sort of thing where direct action, I think, makes a lot of sense, which means put 5000 parents at that at that bar.
	Yeah.
	Bingo.
	Bingo.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I'm going to raise the topic that's of greatest concern for me as somebody who worked in the Trump administration in the White House.
	and I want to get your take on it.
	It's the bench.
	We are, you know, a couple of years away from having to staff the administration.
	The president is running.
	If we can have clean elections, he will stroll back into the White House, given the disaster that has been the Biden regime.
	I just don't see... I see too many people discouraged, number one, and of course, why wouldn't you be discouraged if Peter Navarro is being put in leg irons at Reagan Airport because he is being subpoenaed by Nancy's witch hunt, and that's a person who was my colleague in the White House.
	Why would you volunteer to work in a conservative administration?
	And secondly, I don't see a lot of work.
	I've had some discussions with Mark Meadows and others, but I don't see a lot of Heavy lifting being done in building the bench right now and two years really is not a long time.
	Isn't this, I mean, wasn't Reagan right, Chris, that policy is personnel and doesn't someone around President Trump have to grasp this nettle by the thorns?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, no, for sure.
	Personnel is definitely policy.
	I think that the Trump administration got a late start on it because they were misled by people who they should have been able to trust, but as it turns out, they couldn't trust.
	But the presidential personnel office in 2020, the final year of the administration, was extremely well run.
	Oh, when Johnny McAtee came back after John Kelly, the scumbag, got him out, kicked him out of the White House, the last six months were superlative and Johnny was doing amazing things, but it was six months, Chris!
	Yeah, now picture if he starts that work before the transition, before the election, and if he is running PPO, the Presidential Personnel Office, from day one.
	And I don't mean day one election day, I don't mean day one inauguration day, I mean from the time that the President uh announces that he is running for election again and that he's running again then what if you have those people brought back together get the band back together they did do a very good job in 2020 right they interviewed tons and tons of people they know who's who uh and they could just pick up where they left off i think that i think that the appointments that we would see out of out of the next trump administration would be quite quite good
	so you think we have enough people who haven't been deterred by what they've done to the steve bannons the manaforts the navarros of the world I do, actually.
	I've thought about this a lot.
	I mean, there are a lot of people who look at that and say, that's bad.
	I don't want that to happen to me.
	But the stakes for this country are really high.
	And if there's an opportunity to go in and do something positive for the country, I'm going to do it.
	I've heard that from a lot of very well-qualified, accomplished people.
	Alright, well that makes me feel a little bit better.
	What would make me feel a lot better if, I don't know, if somebody with the initials CB became, oh I don't know, the Trump point person on cyber.
	That would make me feel, or social media, that would make me feel much better.
	Chris, I might just have to put you on my list.
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	Okay, let's have some fun in the last couple of minutes we have with you, Chris.
	Let's imagine it's happened.
	We've built the bench.
	President Trump has won.
	It's the 21st of January 2025.
	We're walking back into the White House for the second term.
	Nothing can stop him because he only gets one more term.
	So this is where we fix Everything.
	I have a couple of ideas.
	Number one, you've got a couple of, you know, about a dozen hard bastards, I'm prepared to volunteer, who go around the departments in twos making sure the cabinet members do what they're meant to do and don't undermine the president every week.
	And if you don't do it, we get to tell the president to pitch him.
	And then we move departments out of the swamp.
	If we can't get rid, well, we should get rid of education and EPA.
	And the ones we don't want to get rid of, we move them.
	We take state to South Dakota.
	We take, you know, agriculture to Wyoming.
	Get rid of the, you know, the deep state people who want to live here in D.C.
	and have patriots in those buildings.
	What would Chris Boskirk, Mr. American Greatness, like to see from a second Trump term?
	What's the top of your list?
	Oh, that's easy.
	Top of my list is I would like to see the administration work with some friendly governors in red states where they have, you know, where they have red legislature, you know, where we have a so-called Trek Vector.
	And what I'd like to see, I'd like to see the states enter into basically consent orders or contacts with the federal government where the federal government sends a lot of the power back into those states.
	Wow.
	The power that's been taken under the Chevron decision and elsewhere away from the state.
	I haven't heard this before.
	This is fascinating.
	Tell us what kind of issues this is most relevant to.
	where the states get it back.
	I think that's actually maybe the most powerful thing.
	Okay, I love this.
	I haven't heard this before.
	This is fascinating.
	Tell us what kind of issues this is most relevant to.
	Where do the states need to get their powers back first, Chris?
	Every place.
	I mean, the thing is, is that the states have become de facto vassals of the federal government because of the way that the federal government doles out tax money to the states.
	So the states just administer the money.
	And so, you know, if you want your highway funds or, you know, you want funds for your state national guard or whatever, then you have to do any number of things.
	And it could be anything from, you know, change the drinking age in your state to adopt this or that trans policy.
	Or, you know, it really is almost everything.
	And so, you know, I think a way to revitalize state power to allow states, and by the way, I don't care if it's Massachusetts or Alabama.
	They should all get to make as many decisions as possible through their legislatures, is to have a friendly presidential administration enter into these agreements with the states that takes away the federal power.
	In other words, cedes it back to the state.
	It's like if you read the 67 page leaked SCOTUS brief on Roe v. Wade, this beautiful phrase again and again and again, let this issue reside with the states where their citizens can argue it with their representatives, because that's why we are a republic!
	What a great idea.
	I see a new article coming from a certain Chris Boskirk that we'll have to read about this.
	In the meantime, go to the page AmGreatnessBookMarket.
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	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First wherever you are.

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