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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The Buffalo shooter's true left-wing views
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So much to discuss.
This is not a light news Monday.
It's great to be back.
At the weekend I was with hundreds of conservatives in San Antonio for a radio station event with none other than the sage of South Central.
Yes, the man himself, Larry Elder.
Thank you, Chad, and all the people who organized that event.
And I took time before the event To go to the Alamo, which I had never visited.
And it is fascinating.
Now I understand the attitude of Texans a lot more because of the story I learnt over several hours in the Alamo.
First a public service announcement.
Yesterday my Twitter account with 1.2 million followers was hacked and I can't even get into it now because Twitter support sent me an automated response saying it'll take us a few days or longer to get back to you.
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A lot of my buddies have already reached out.
Thank you to everyone.
Dave Rubin, Robbie Starbuck, Pags, and everybody else who's trying to put a little gentle pressure on Twitter support.
Maybe this is something it's gonna take Elon Musk to fix.
You'd think that if an account with more than a million followers was being used illegally to try and bilk people who like St.
Jude's Hospital, you'd think that The crazy leftists at Twitter would care about that.
Well seemingly they don't.
We'll find out whether by the end of the show they take it a little bit more seriously.
All right.
The news of course of the weekend are the two attacks.
One in California Laguna Woods at a church.
A shooter who was was actually tackled to the ground and tied up hogtied by the parishioners.
And then in Buffalo an 18 year old individual who Well, did what crazy, crazy individuals do.
They've been trying to hide this.
This is his manifesto.
Huge document.
Wherever it pops up on the internet, the left, the establishment media, is trying to delete it almost instantly.
Thanks to Eric, we have a copy of it and we have printed it out.
I just want to make sure that everybody understands why they don't want you to see it.
Because this individual, we won't use his name, but this individual is of the left.
Yeah.
He's not some kind of right-wing Nazi white supremacist.
He actually says, That he was a communist as a teenager.
A hardcore communist.
He uses the phrase to describe himself as a green nationalist.
He is an anti-Semite and the most recent label in his quote-unquote manifesto which demonstrates his mental issues is he calls himself quote a mild moderate authoritarian leftist.
Let me repeat that again.
These are the words of the shooter from Buffalo, the mass murderer, a mild, moderate, okay that kind of cancels each other out, authoritarian leftist.
That's what he calls himself.
I don't know how you are a moderate authoritarian or a mild authoritarian, but he says he is a leftist.
And to all those who are disgustingly absolutely outrageously already in just the last few hours trying to blame none other than Tucker Carlson for this attack because the individual was concerned with replacement theory meaning the white American population being replaced by non-white immigrants illegal or otherwise
The manifesto actually attacks Fox News.
Actually, in a filthy fashion, attacks those who are of Jewish descent who work at Fox News.
So just like Hitler was a socialist, National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany, this is another anti-Semitic racist from the left.
And for those who take umbrage The concept of replacement theory being some kind of conspiracy of the right.
We have the New York Times writing articles with headlines such as, we can replace them.
This is from 2018 in Georgia, a chance to rebuke white nationalism.
The headline, we can replace them.
Let's drill down on that for a moment.
Why is replacement theory deemed to be a conspiracy of the right, of the MAGA extremists, nay, the ULTRA MAGA extremists?
What has the white left said about race?
Why is there critical race theory being taught in schools?
The logic of critical race theory is that they actually support replacement.
When they celebrate, as you see in this article in the New York Times, white Americans being replaced by ethnic minorities who are becoming majorities, then this has nothing to do with the right.
Think about the main tenets of critical race theory.
Which is bigotry itself.
That white people are, because they are white, oppressors.
Colored individuals will always be oppressed by those who aren't colored.
Those statements, treating ethnic groups as monoliths, is the definition of bigotry.
But those who believe that, the propagators of it, BLM and the chattering classes in the faculty lounges across America, they want replacement.
For them it's not replacement theory.
They celebrate replacement.
Why?
Because it is the white oppressor that is being replaced by the colored oppressed victim.
If there's anybody who believes in this conspiracy theory, it is those who celebrate the practice of it.
If you believe, as the left, as the indoctrinated millennials in the high schools, in the colleges believe, that white is bad and colored is good, what is the logical progression of that?
If white is bad, If you can't exterminate, and we have had some professors say that that is actually what should happen in America, then what should you do?
You should outnumber them.
It's not a replacement theory.
It's the left's replacement strategy.
What have we witnessed in 16 months?
An administration that literally removed the barriers to illegal immigration.
That has welcomed more than 2 million illegal immigrants, almost all of minority backgrounds, across the southern border into America.
Welcome them!
Give them baby formula and government cell phones and plane tickets.
So that's the truth.
That's how much the left lies.
This isn't a conspiracy theory of the right.
This is the left's celebration of how they upturn critical race theory's objective in America.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
It's a big day tomorrow across the country.
We're going to have one of the new breed of MAGA candidates J.D. Vance, next here on America First.
Thanks, up.
Thumbs up.
Alright.
Good stuff.
Bloody hell, she's doing it right now.
Who?
What's her face?
She's talking about her black race.
Oh.
Why don't she just do her stinking job?
That is the thing I was thinking about when Tucker did that monologue a while back on, like, replacement theory.
Never once in his monologue did he actually use the word white, but then all the articles and hit pieces said, oh, he talked about white Americans, white Americans, and it was literally like, you know, the lady doth protest too much.
much like the left being the first ones to bring up white kind of shows that they of course have that motivation and they just kind of let the cat out of the bag with that one.
Speaker 1: America first hole, please.
They've changed my Twitter header.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, I saw that.
Okay.
Title for that monologue. - Thank you.
The politics...
Um.
The real politics?
The real politics of the... Buffalo.
Buffalo shooter.
Got it.
Buffalo killer.
Buffalo killer, yep.
Green nationalism.
Two minutes.
Geoff, are you busy?
No.
If I send you a load of, um, emails, can you write, uh, as the producer of the show, these are all the press team at Twitter, um, why they're not fixing my thing?
Yeah.
90 seconds.
Do we have them, Geoff, or not yet?
It's ringing.
Oh, it's, oh, gotcha.
Senator Vance.
Nice ring to it.
One minute we have got Israel here.
Never mind.
I like these here now.
Oh, we have him.
Hello, Mr. Vance.
Just letting you know, the mics are live on our video stream at this time.
Okay.
Sounds good.
35.
Awesome.
Alright.
Yep.
30 seconds.
Hey, JD.
Hey, man.
How are you?
Good, good, good, good.
How's it going?
It's good.
Good.
Alright.
Busy.
Let's talk Ultra Maga.
Sounds good.
All right, Tom's going down.
All right, Tom's going Tom's going down.
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First guest of the day.
Wonderful timing given the big, big things happening across the country tomorrow.
Pennsylvania elsewhere is a An individual who kind of embodies the new breed of MAGA, America First, author, entrepreneur, JD Vance!
Welcome back to America First!
Thanks for having me, Seb.
Good to be with you.
Now, you worked in public relations in the Marine Corps.
You're an incredibly successful author.
Now you're a citizen politician.
Gotta get your take on the deplorable thing didn't work too well for Hillary.
You know, Americans took it as a kind of badge of courage, this insult.
Now, after six months, we find out six months of very expensive focus group analysis, they came up with the ultra-MAGA insult that Biden used.
Do you think this is going to fare as well as deplorables did?
No, I don't, Sam.
I mean, look, the big problem here is that Democrats, they've got to stop insulting the people who they want to vote for them.
Right?
It's a common sense.
You know, we don't like a lot of Democrat politicians and I don't like a lot of Democrat leaders and the media industrial complex that supports them.
But you don't insult people who you want their vote.
This is something that Hillary Clinton never learned.
It's not just the ultra MAGA thing.
Do you remember the vaccine mandate speech that Biden gave probably, I don't know, eight or nine months ago?
And the way that he talked about the unvaccinated were like basically like they were sewer rats, that they were about to enter and experience a winter of death and discontent.
You just don't talk about people like that in a constitutional republic.
But, of course, these people don't see themselves as leaders in a constitutional republic.
They see themselves as rulers of their subjects, and that's the problem.
Yeah, it really is, you know, after saying that you will be the man to unite America, to have that kind of language, to insult half of the population, is the antithesis of unification.
As somebody who's, you know, carried a gun for a living, who's worn the cloth of the republic, I've got to ask you to react to, you know, the multiple shootings this weekend.
How many?
Three dead in Chicago.
No, five dead, 33 shot in Chicago.
Nobody's talking about that, of course.
Nobody's talking about the California church where a shooter was tackled to the ground by the parishioners.
who weren't killed by him.
Everybody's talking about Buffalo.
And I have here the manifesto that the left is trying to hide.
Every time it pops up the killer's manifesto is deleted and you have to search it elsewhere.
It's fascinating reading though because the individual calls himself an environmentalist.
He says he is a moderate authoritarian leftist.
But we are already being told, JD, That the Rolling Stone magazine said, quote, he is a typical Republican.
It seems to me that they've learned nothing in the last five years and they're just doubling down on this language of division.
Yeah, it's a disgusting smear, Seb.
And look, you mentioned some of the other shootings that have happened recently.
I'd point out five months ago, the terrible, you know, Waukesha terrorist attack that killed a bunch of innocent children was clearly motivated by racial and ideological hatred.
The problem with the left is they pick up on these terrible tragedies.
And instead of assigning blame to the evil people who carry this stuff out, they decide to make the enemy normal conservatives.
You know, I've seen three people blamed nonstop for this violence that happened in Buffalo, which, of course, I mean, was an absolutely atrocious event.
I mean, God love those people who are affected in their families.
The three people I've seen blamed are not the shooter, the guy who actually carried out this violence, but Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, and me.
I've heard me criticized because I'm an advocate, allegedly, of some conspiracy theory that motivated this guy.
Look, it's insane.
You don't use tragedies to advance your political agenda.
The left just does this again and again and again.
Can't we just condemn whenever anybody commits an act of violence and leave the politics out of it for just a little bit?
Yeah, it would be nice.
It would be nice if we could do that.
Let me ask you somebody who helped me understand through your book, Hillbilly Elegy, why it was that good working-class Americans, Democrat voters, voted for the billionaire from Manhattan.
You look at the last five years, JD, and especially the last 15 months, And there's never, there's never at that little chink, there's never that little glimmer, that ray that the left understands that doubling down doesn't make sense.
There's got to be a little bit of talking across the aisle to the other side.
What is it going to take?
You understand the big picture.
Does there have to be some Utter identity crisis?
Does there have to be such a shellacking in the midterms that the party collapses?
Because every time I see just a doubling down of the radicalism.
That's right, actually.
I mean, I actually thought you might see some of this after 2016, some moment where people looked around and said, you know, maybe we missed something about the country.
But as you remember, Seb, there was like two weeks of the liberals trying to understand what they missed, and then four years of Russia, Russia, Russia.
I think that was actually the purpose of the Russiagate conspiracy, to distract these people from the fact That their entire political party is unpopular.
I hope that if they get a shellacking in the midterms, a lot of these people wake up.
The problem, as I always say, with the Democrat Party, it's not the Democrat voters.
I think there are a lot of still good, patriotic, middle-of-the-road Democrat voters.
They're just horribly represented by the leadership of the party.
I mean, you look at, for example, middle-class black voters, the only pro-life constituency within the Democrat Party.
And you have my opponent in Ohio, Tim Ryan, defending abortion up to 40 weeks.
Basically full-term babies defending and aborting those poor children.
It's kind of crazy to me that they don't have this come-to-Jesus, this road to Damascus moment where they realize how much they've screwed up.
You know, I hope they haven't eventually.
They're gonna rip the country apart, but so far they haven't done it.
In the meantime, follow this gentleman, JDVance1 on Twitter.
JDVance.com is the campaign website.
That's JDVance.com.
We've got a minute and a half left.
A long time ago, I asked you, how are you going to stop becoming a swamp creature if you win?
You have now been anointed by President Trump, my old boss, and you said, well, it's because who you hang out with.
These people come to the swamp and they're surrounded by swamp creatures and they slowly transmogrify.
I'm going to surround myself with the people I love and respect now.
How's that team?
Do you have that team that you're going to come to the swamp with, JD?
Is it ready to roll?
Yeah, we definitely got that team.
I mean, there are a few good America First patriots in the Congress, a couple in the Senate, some people.
I think that we can actually build a real, you know, a real, not just a coalition, but I think a real group of patriots who can change the Republican Party and change the country from there.
That's got to be the goal, man.
I just don't think there's any way if you spend all your time hanging out with lobbyists and getting whined and dined and told how wonderful you are by your staff and by these people, eventually you're going to become a scumbag.
I just think that's the way that it works.
So the only strategy that's going to work is to take yourself out of that world.
He talks sense.
That is how they become scumbags.
He's gonna fight them.
JDVance.com.
Thank you, my friend.
Let's take your calls.
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And he's gone. . .
Thank you.
That was good.
It was good.
I'm so glad he won for a while there.
I mean, I figured he'd pull it out, but there was a period of time when all the anti-Trump attacks were ramped up.
I was so afraid he would lose to a career politician.
Latest polls seem to suggest Oz is probably going to pull it out tomorrow.
Narrowly.
Yeah.
Mastriano's running away with it, of course, but Oz probably, and Barnett's probably gonna come in second.
There was one poll that had McCormick as low in third place with 11%.
eleven percent and so if you actually poorly that'd be quite something can we uh...
play the two thousand mules ad uh...
when we come back in Yeah, the whole thing?
Yeah.
I think it's really good.
Let's just play it.
Definitely.
Yeah.
All right.
You want to come in with it or tee it up?
For, because radio purposes.
Is that going to play on the radio?
Yeah.
Let me, let me tee it up then.
Awesome.
Yep.
Yep.
It's three minutes.
We got plenty of time in this segment to do just that.
Again, I think the trailer itself is very well constructed, and that, like, tells a story.
Like, it starts off with Dennis saying, I'm agnostic on the voter fraud issue, and then by the end, he's, like, enraged.
It just works so well.
Mm-hmm, it is.
Yeah.
Oh, title for JD.
Um... What do you think?
Hmm...
Something about, like, the new generation of America First, or... Oh, that was really good.
Or fighting the swamp, bringing the right team to the swamp.
How to not be a scumbag.
Don't be a Democrat.
How to not be a scumbag.
Okie dokes.
Yeah.
One minute forty-five.
You can block the lines.
He's on the phone right now, I'll let him know once he's on the phone.
Um, what's up?
A child has discovered a new favorite toy.
What?
Uh, JL says he may have cracked the code to be able to do certain video operations remotely.
Oh, wow.
How to actually use the controls in here.
So, Garrett did mention that was one of the Very nice features of this new studio.
Garrett said this is one of the nice new features.
One minute, one minute.
One minute, one minute.
Yeah.
Some parts of it were taken, ripped straight from the Christ Church Shooter's manifesto, yeah.
Like, verbatim in some areas.
Oh, he said you can block the lines, Jeff.
Okay, you have to block.
30 seconds.
30 seconds, comms going down.
Coming back to him.
30 seconds, comms going down.
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You know, if I were Dinesh D'Souza, I'd look at what happened in the 2020 election and say there's no way.
Give me maybe a mini-series of 20 episodes each an hour long, but there's no way to describe the enormity of the scam, the hack, the theft of the election in one 90-minute documentary.
But he did it.
It's called 2,000 Mules.
We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
This is organized crime.
In no way, in no time, is that legal.
- This is organized crime.
- Do you have video evidence?
- Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country. - What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is, uh, one o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at one o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously, because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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Okay, let's go to your calls.
Let's go to John.
First up, line one.
Happy Monday, John.
Happy day to you, Dr. Gorka.
Hope you're doing well.
Yes, we are.
What would you like to say?
Let's get to it, my friend.
Awesome.
I've been praying that the Democratic politicians continue to badmouth us Americans so that we can spank their ass come the midterms.
Well, they're doubling down last 15 months.
They haven't done anything that's good for America, and all they've done is insult us.
So it's looking good.
Thank you, my friend.
Judy in Brooklyn.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Yes.
Hello.
I am so disgusted with Nancy Pelosi, I have to call you.
And I don't know, I wish you guys would get this recording.
This morning I heard a recording of her criticizing President Trump.
For appointing concerted judges and calling him vile names in the process, which really got me angry.
And to what extent?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
We actually have the cut, but go ahead.
Oh, yeah?
Well, you know what?
It'll get me somewhere.
She is diabolical, okay?
That I'm putting her And all of her ilk in a basket of diabolical.
This is supposedly a Catholic woman and she's pushing for abortion to the last minute?
She is diabolical and she, as a quote-unquote Catholic, called President Trump a creature.
That's what she did.
We will play you the audio.
Thank you for reminding me, Judy.
Super, super important.
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Like this, Elise Stefanik.
We're all looking at you, Elise.
You know, somebody on Twitter said, all of your staff should quit now.
People, we're warning you because it's only going to get worse.
Quit now.
Yeah.
He looked up on the internet and found all this information that is funneled into the internet by racists.
He was concerned that he's being replaced by black and brown people.
Frankly, I'm sick of all the people who keep pretending that that's not what they mean when they sort of talk that code.
People talk code and say, oh, well, you know, voters and that's not what you mean.
If that's what you meant, people would say, hey, let's talk about the voting laws.
But they don't.
We know what you mean when you say it.
We've been black and brown long enough to recognize it.
Stop it.
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Yes, literally killing those very Americans whose existence is now being used as leverage.
All right.
We have Mr. Solomon.
All right.
Greetings.
Hi.
I know what we're going to talk about today.
A little Sussman trial.
Did you see the Mike Flynn story?
I did.
I got it.
Yes.
I can't retweet it because they've hacked my account last night and Twitter is not really very excited about helping me get my account back.
I can't imagine that.
All right, stand by.
We'll talk Southman first and then Mike.
Yeah, sounds good.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Jay Solomon reports.
John Solomon, welcome back to American First.
Good to join you, Seb.
Good to be here.
So it's a big day, not in a good way, but it's a big day for a certain Michael Sussman.
What do we know about the beginnings of this process?
Yeah, listen, a pretty uneventful day.
John Durham was in the courtroom along with his deputy prosecutor.
Sussman was in the courtroom consulting with his lawyers.
And by lunchtime, they had agreed on 23-24 suitable jurors.
So there's plenty of a large jury pull.
And all signs are that this is going to start with opening statements as early as tomorrow morning.
But I think we're ready to go.
All the motions, all the arguments, all the Attorney-client privilege claims are now done with, and now it's time to get down to the facts and the evidence and let a jury listen to what Michael Sussman did, which is apparently lie to the FBI and foist upon the FBI and the CIA a false Russia collusion story, something that most of us probably would have gone for prison to a long time ago.
Right, and his lawyers in the last few months have tried to stop certain information being accessed.
Then they brought certain motions that were quite questionable in terms of their legal legitimacy.
Do you think they're going to try and pull some shenanigans?
Copper deal?
Is this going to end with Sussman?
You've been covering the Russia hoax since the get-go.
What spidey sense, tingly feelings are you getting, John?
You know, I think all signs are that this is going to go to trial, that he's going to roll his dice and not cut a deal now.
I don't think Durham's even interested in a deal at this point.
So he's going to roll his dice and we're going to see.
You know, listen, one of the most problematic things for him, there are two things that happened to him, right?
Early on he said there's no proof, you know, his lawyers were saying there's no proof that he told the FBI that he wasn't working on behalf of a client.
And then all of a sudden a text message emerged from Sussman himself to Baker saying, oh, I'm not working on behalf of any client, I'm coming to you with this Russia Trump dirt on my own good because I want to help my country.
Let's be clear here, sir.
So people who aren't, you know, inveigled in the deep.
This is the text message between Sussman and the Chief Counsel.
The Chief Counsel of the DOJ said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's not, you know, it's just me, a concerned citizen.
So he's got it banged to rights.
I mean, he should plead guilty now based on that evidence, if he were wise.
What you're going to hear is you're going to see the defense spend a lot of time saying, all right, well, he probably did it, even though he originally said he didn't.
But was it really material?
Would it really have made a difference to the FBI?
You're going to see some senior FBI people come in and say, because it was Michael Sussman, because he told us he wasn't doing this on behalf of a client, we opened up an inquiry on this, which we might not have otherwise have done.
That makes it material.
I do think that Sussman has a A high hurdle to try to win any points in this.
But here's the second thing they did.
They went into the judge and said, all this stuff that we did on Donald Trump, the Steele dossier, the Alfa Bank baloney that Donald Trump had that secret communication system with the Kremlin through the Alfa Bank, all long disproven.
Well, I know we gave it to the media.
I know we gave it to everybody who would ever listen to us.
But now we want to have it covered by attorney client privilege.
And as you know, the judge laughed that out and said, no, anything that deals with those things are coming in.
And so he allowed 23.
Emails that the Clinton team had tried to get rid of under the guise of attorney kind of properties allowed them into the trial So Durham's off to a good start.
I think Sussman's got a difficult case to make though.
It is a DC jury It's a jury.
That's not going to be most likely favorable to Donald Trump So we'll just have to wait and see how this goes.
Durham's a very good litigator.
He's got a good litigation team And I think he's gonna tell a larger story in this case.
Here's the thing I think you should watch for more than anything else There's going to be a CIA witness, according, or two, that show up in this trial.
They're going to talk about how after Sussman pitched this Russia garbage to them in February 2017, they quickly rolled it out and kind of came to the conclusion it might have been fabricated from the beginning.
That will be a very dramatic day, the day the CIA experts come in.
Watch for that one.
For me, the buried lead in all of this, to use a journalistic term, is the fact that whether or not he misrepresented himself is irrelevant to the point that the FBI opened an investigation in the fact That a Russian bank had relations with Donald Trump.
Which wasn't true, which was a fabrication.
But as if an American entity can't have a relationship with a Russian bank.
That's not a crime.
So why the FBI launched an investigation is a big question for me.
We're talking to John Solomon.
His book is Fallout.
Nuclear bribes, Russian spies, and the Washington lies that enriched the Clinton and Biden dynasties.
We've got a minute and a half left for the second big story of the day.
You can't keep a good man down, apparently, especially if it's General Mike Flynn.
Correct, John?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, there was an old rock, so I'm not going to take it anymore.
Well, Mike Flynn's not going to take it anymore.
He has, quietly, without much fanfare, filed a $50 million claim with the Justice Department and FBI.
This is a prelude when you're a former military officer.
You have to do this step before you can sue the government.
But basically, he said, the FBI, the Obama White House, Andy McCabe specifically and others had a vendetta against me and they politically persecuted me without having evidence of a crime and I want to get 50 million dollars from them.
They owe me money for ruining my life.
A very dramatic document that goes through the most, the best compilation of all of the things that have come out over the last three years that show you just how far astray the FBI investigation was.
There never was evidence that Mike Flynn did anything wrong.
There was another evidence that Donald Trump did anything wrong.
As the FBI's former intelligence chief has told me many times, the predicate wasn't even a legitimate predicate to open an investigation on.
Mike Flynn put that all together in one filing.
It's a great read, and there's going to be some litigation in the near future.
Given what they did to him and his family, the millions that he had to raise to defend himself, the way they tried to blackmail him to defend his son, he deserves to win that case.
God bless you, Mike Flynn.
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- - Can you play six, eight, and nine?
- Six, okay, go ahead. - Is it too simplistic to reduce this to a single television show, though?
Yes.
I'm seeing a lot of that on social media.
Just blaming Fox, just blaming Tucker.
And I think there's a lot of blame to go around.
There's a ton.
I mean, look, let's be clear.
The stuff Tucker and Laura Ingram say every night, it could be written by white supremacists very often.
There's a section of this manifesto where the shooter starts talking about, people always say diversity is strength.
How is it strength?
I could hear it in Tucker's voice.
He says this all the time.
When the New York Times recently ran an exposé on Carlson's record of promoting white nationalism and replacement theory, he tweeted out this, a picture of himself holding up the article, the front page of the New York Times, and laughing about it.
Derek, as you know, millions of people absorb this garbage on a regular basis on his program.
Fox does nothing about it.
They make millions of dollars off of it.
We have not shied away from calling that out and calling Tucker out on this program because what he is doing is very dangerous.
If Trump were to return to the White House as president, and COVID is still a threat or there's some other public health emergency, would you have confidence in his ability to deal with a pandemic of this nature?
Would you want to stay on in your post?
Yes, please.
Well, no.
It's in the second.
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Which means more freedom.
Doesn't want federal government to control things that shouldn't be controlled by the federal government.
That's how diabolical she is.
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Dave waiting very patiently.
Line 4.
Dr. Gorka, thank you so much for your time.
I've actually spoken to you about this previously.
I'm an inner city teacher.
I was for 10 years.
I currently work with incarcerated adults.
I dealt with some not safe people.
Um, the Buffalo, New York thing is getting fun, but the fact is, it's exactly like the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shootings.
It's exactly like the ones that happened in Michigan High School, the Oregon District, uh, shooting in, uh, Dayton, Ohio, where the guy's been thrown out of Beaver Creek.
This is a person who's mentally ill.
The school district knows the person is mentally ill.
The school district contacts authorities, and the story gets buried.
Because, during the Obama administration, the Ohio Department, um, the, pardon me, the, uh, United States Department of Education did not want, quote-unquote, at-risk, re-dangerous students to get expelled at a high level.
And in order to keep them in, they basically made it illegal for school districts to share information with police and the Justice Department.
No, absolutely.
And conditions became incredibly dangerous for students and for teachers.
Yes, sir.
And it's just, once again, where it's going to be a talk about ARs, or a talk about this, or maybe the parents.
But the bottom line is, whether the parents could handle this kid or not, had he decided to shoot up a school bus, at least God put somebody who, at the cost of his own life, was able to trade fire with this monster.
What do you mean?
You know, God put somebody there to save people.
Well, one of the people killed was a retired police officer who was a security person at that grocery store.
And he was killed while returning fire.
Right.
And the shocking thing is he spoke about shooting up the school before he did and nothing ever happened.
Thank you for your great call, Dave.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Don't you dare touch that dial.
Thank you.
All right.
90 seconds.
We're live on the Rumble stream.
Yeah.
OK.
Everything should be good.
Yeah, go ahead.
Can you play me 11?
Eleven.
Go ahead and give him eleven.
Oh, yeah.
What you need is actual evidence of people going to multiple Dropboxes.
It isn't just the cell phone data moving past the Dropboxes.
Also, I don't know enough about cell phone data to tell whether there's a major time delay.
Is somebody spending five minutes at the Dropbox and then moving on, or is it second by second, the cell phone moves past it?
Also, if somebody is carrying two cell phones, or a pager and a cell phone, or a computer and a cell phone, like, where is all this data coming from?
All these are open questions which require more explanation.
So I guess what I would say is an answer that's gonna make nobody happy.
I think that the data is really interesting.
I think that it's really suspicious.
For sure.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Do you have a take on why he did that, Jeff?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
45 seconds.
I can't hear you, you're not pressing it.
No, like everything else, he always plays the line and not get cancelled.
Look at how much he's self-censoring himself from that clip.
Let's discuss that, alright?
Stay here.
Sits on the fence as he always does.
30 seconds.
That is Shapiro in a nutshell.
Yeah, he'll see that coming up.
Never taking that, very lawyer-esque.
Never taking that extra step.
All right, 20 seconds.
Standby comms going down for the time being.
I'll bring it back up.
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Oh, where to begin?
So much to discuss.
So many great cuts, so many big stories.
Let's start with Fauci, because he's not political at all, is he?
He believes in science because he is!
Science.
Cut nine.
If Trump were to return to the White House as president, and COVID is still a threat or there's some other public health emergency, would you have confidence in his ability to deal with a pandemic of this nature?
Would you want to stay on in your post?
Well, no, to the second question.
The first question is... I think I knew the answer to it, but I had to ask you.
He's giggling.
He's giggling like a senile patient who wet his underpants, wet his diaper.
What's funny?
37 years.
37 years, 37 years in that job as that director is okay earning 400 and what is it, $420,000.
But if President Trump comes back, I'm going to just live off the patents I acquired while I was in that situation.
and That's when you really see who these people are.
Okay, we've got to talk about 2000 mules.
We've got to talk about what Ben, what's his name, Ben Shapiro said about 2000 mules and ask the question why he did it.
But first, before we do that, I'm going to ask Mr. G to chime in as well.
Let me tell you a story.
A story about America today.
I've got a good friend, known him since about September the 11th.
Who is a patriot.
Not only is he a patriot, with national security credentials, he wanted to serve this nation after becoming a very successful entrepreneur.
He built a business with his family that revitalized a part of America.
A part of America that was down on its heels.
And he ran that for almost a decade.
Then he looked at what's happening in this nation, especially in the last 15 months, and he said, OK, I'm going to run for office.
I'm going to try and help this nation, and I'm going to run for office.
And I helped him, and my wife helped him.
And it was going very, very well, and he had a shot.
And out of the blue, a couple of weeks ago, he pulls the plug on it all.
The whole campaign.
So much so, that we actually received back two checks from his campaign for the donations my wife and I had made him.
That must be the most honest campaign in American history.
That when he closes it down, they actually send back the donors the money they haven't spent.
God bless you.
You know who you are.
And I let him live his life for a couple of weeks and then I called him up and I said, hey brother, what's going on?
This is why he stopped his campaign.
Not because of, you know, threats of violence to his family, his young children, his wife.
But because almost every employee in the business he built said that they will leave If he runs as a Republican.
He wasn't aggressively MAGA.
He walked quite a careful line given the state in which he was running.
He's a great patriot but he was cautious because he knew, you know, there's a lot of liberals or independents in my state.
But his employees The people who he had given money to, to put food on the table, to feed themselves and their families, were incensed that he was running not as a Democrat.
And after much tension that was created between him and his family members who were part of the company as well, Not only did he close down the campaign, he distanced himself from the company.
He doesn't go into work anymore.
He's still, you know, co-owner, but he doesn't go into work because of what his employees think of him because he dared to disagree with them politically.
Do you understand what's happened to America?
If he'd run as a Democrat, They would have held fundraisers in the business that he built with his hands for them.
They'd be making the cupcakes for his fundraisers.
But he dared to run as somebody who doesn't think like the left's tribe, the left's cult.
And they declared a revolution against the man who had employed them.
So here's the moral.
The left is out of control.
They want to destroy you if you dare disagree with them.
He made his decision.
And I'm not going to second-guess him.
But here's the real moral of the tale.
We must fight.
We must politically fight to take back America without surrendering.
Because these are the people we are facing.
People who will brook no disagreement.
They are authoritarians.
Like the killer from Buffalo who said, I am a left-wing authoritarian.
in his manifesto which I have here in my hand that the left is trying to hide.
So what are you doing about it?
In my speech with Larry Elder at the weekend I said if you're not running for office or you are right next to somebody running for office supporting them then you're part of the problem.
If my wife can do it so can you.
The stakes demand it.
Okay, over the weekend before my Twitter account was hacked, I was up late at night responding to what Ben Shapiro said about 2,000 mules.
It's called quite a bit of a ruckus and I'm trying to understand it because I don't get it.
This guy's supposed to be smart.
He's a lawyer.
This is what he says about the slam dunk of two petabytes worth of evidence of geolocation and four million minutes of CCTV camera footage of the mules.
Play cut.
What you need is actual evidence of people going to multiple Dropboxes.
It isn't just the cell phone data moving past the Dropboxes.
Also, I don't know enough about cell phone data to tell whether there's a major time delay.
Is somebody spending five minutes at the Dropbox and then moving on?
Or is it second by second, the cell phone moves past it?
Also, if somebody is carrying two cell phones or a pager and a cell phone or a computer and a cell phone, like where is all this data coming from?
All these are open questions which require more explanation.
So I guess what I would say is an answer that's going to make nobody happy.
I think that the data is really interesting.
I think that it's really suspicious, for sure.
I don't think that it is dispositive that this alone shifted the election, or that, and when I say this, I mean fraudulent ballots, or that the election was stolen in the sense that actual fraudulent ballots made the difference between victory and loss for Donald Trump in these states.
I think that the conclusions of the film are not justified by the premises of the film itself.
There are a bunch of dots that need to be connected.
Maybe they will be connected, but they haven't been connected in the film.
He's using fancy lawyerly language, not dispositive.
They don't prove the case.
So, let me get this straight, Ben.
You think an individual whose cell phone data is so accurate it is used by the police To catch murderers.
It was used by the FBI to hound down 700 people after January 6th.
That cell phone data isn't accurate enough.
And you think there's another explanation for a mule going to 26 drop boxes in 24 hours in six counties?
You think there's another explanation for that?
Why are you doing that?
Because you're smarter than that.
And something stinks here.
Let's ask the man whose political funny bone is very, very sensitive.
He's Mr. G. Jeff, are you there?
I'm here.
Alright, help me out here.
What the heck is going on with Ben I'm Very Smart Shapiro?
It's pretty simple.
Ben Shapiro has 4.5 million subscribers on YouTube.
You go to Facebook, he has like 8.5 million followers.
He always plays the line not to go far enough because he's always so worried about being censored by social media.
There's the leaked clip that we talked about from one of his podcasts afterwards.
He says something on it that isn't even controversial.
He uses the phrase pan-gender, right?
No, pan-sexual.
Pan-sexual.
The mics are on, he doesn't know it.
He's like, hey, can we delete that?
I said pan-sexual, which isn't even controversial.
If you're self-censoring yourself that much, there's no way he's going to go on YouTube with his four and a half million subscribers and say, you know, 2,000 meals was good, they really laid out a lot, and I think the election was stolen.
Gosh.
So he's just being safe.
Of course!
I mean, what else when you watch that?
You can't say it, at least it raises questions.
How can you conclude, oh no, there's no way there's enough votes to overturn the states?
Georgia was what, 10,000 votes?
Right, right.
And we had 400,000 illegal ballots that we proved in that movie.
I think I know the answer, but I've got to go to Eric.
Eric, your take on what we just heard from Ben?
I agree completely.
I mean, he's biggest on Facebook.
I think that is his biggest platform and YouTube and other platforms.
And he knows that if he were to speak out, they would ban him and he would lose all that clout.
Sure, he could go to Rumble or the other alternatives, but he gets that follower, that engagement, and that revenue from the big tech companies.
Ban, ban, ban.
Safe is not how you win.
So sad.
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Do we have details on his book?
Do we have an image?
Let me text it to you, I'll just show you what they sent.
Let's post that as two separate things.
One on Shapiro, one on... He'd have been better off just not even addressing it.
This is what he does though, this is exactly why the New York Times calls him a conservative gladiator.
They want him to be the face of the right because he's not a real threat to them.
He never has been.
Okay.
What's the name of his book, Jeff?
All right, thanks.
Two minutes, 45 seconds. 45 seconds.
Put in pirates and the problem... Okay.
Got it.
Okay, I found it.
Can you play me Cut 12?
Cut 12.
Yep.
One of the things I'd say in response to the media is when they talk about, especially early on, about the way I did my job, I said, I will absolutely leave the court when I do my job as poorly as you do yours.
And that was meant as a compliment, really.
I love his laugh.
Will you come in with that, please?
God, yes.
All right.
Two minutes coming in with cut 12.
It's like when that like that journalist confronted him on the street and he was getting into his car and he just burst out with that deep.
Yes, that's right.
You can knock down a whole room with that laugh.
I love it.
All right.
We've got a chair.
It's a chair.
It's a clingy sword?
I was just gonna make that joke.
Alright.
I'm here, don't worry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've got you.
And the mics are live, Mr. Starbuck on our video stream.
Hey, how are you guys doing?
Good.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's the image of the book.
Oh, it's here somewhere.
Scale it.
We've got a minute 15.
And Israel here as well.
I see it on the preview screen, just to see what it looks like.
Just the preview screen.
Yeah, that's good.
Thank you.
Alrighty.
Sir, is there any way that you could scoot is there any way that you could scoot to your left just a touch?
Just about a quarter of an inch.
Slightly to your left.
That's good.
Great, thank you.
Yes, thank you.
Alright, 35 seconds.
We're gonna come in with cut 12 after the liner.
30 seconds.
Israel here, coming in with cut.
And calms down, mics off.
Thank you.
One of the things I say in response to the media is when they talk about, especially early on, about the way I did my job, I said, I will absolutely leave the court when I do my job as poorly as you do yours.
And that was meant as a compliment, really.
What a wicked sense of humor.
What a superb laugh.
That was Justice Clarence Thomas at the weekend.
Rare sighting.
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It's a very MAGA kind of day.
It's an ultra MAGA kind of day.
And now we're going to talk to Robbie Stalbuck of Tennessee for an update on what the Swamp is trying to do to him.
And a very interesting book.
Robbie, welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me, Sam.
Appreciate it.
All right, so give us an update.
What is happening between you and the good old boys at Tennessee who don't want you running for that congressional seat?
Well, so we went to federal court first, and the federal court essentially found they handed down a decision end of last week, and they said they were actually very sympathetic in the decision.
And in the decision, you see there's an admission that the Tennessee Republican Party Did not follow their rules, but essentially said these are things that the state court needs to decide on, so we're going to state court this week and that's the next step in this, but meanwhile we still have a campaign we're running, you know, and over the weekend our campaign was actually assaulted by a crazed lunatic that showed up and attacked one of our volunteers, so we're dealing with that stuff as well.
Thankfully charges have been filed against that person, but it just shows you the amount of evil out there to try to stop You know, ultramagic candidates.
It's just, it's insane.
I mean, it never stops.
But the thing is, people like us, we're fighters.
We don't stop.
Anytime they think they're intimidating us or getting us to slow down, it only fires us up more to keep going.
All right, I want to get your reaction before we move on to the way the left, the Democrats, the mainstream media are already politically exploiting the shooting in Buffalo.
We have the actual real manifesto here from the shooter, a huge document that the left is trying to delete every time it crops up on the internet.
It is clear who he is in here.
He's an anti-Semite.
He calls himself a former communist who is now a... Well, he's mentally challenged because he says, I'm a mild, moderate, authoritarian leftist.
Okay, I don't know how you are a mild, moderate, authoritarian, but the important word is leftist.
Already, they're trying to blame Tucker Carlson, Fox News, despite the fact that he targets Jewish members of Fox News in this document.
Your reaction to just the last 24 hours of media coverage?
The media is incredibly irresponsible.
I mean, at the same time, you see what happened in Waukesha when a terrorist went and ran into people and hurt, you know, over 60 people and killed people, and the media ran with a car, attacked a Christmas parade.
You know, this is just what they do.
They're incredible partisans, and they're, you know, beyond viciously biased.
Everything they do is spewing poison toward the American people, and it treats us as if we're stupid.
Too stupid, in fact, to even understand what they're doing.
But we all know what they're doing.
I mean, it's very clear.
They couldn't be more clear about it.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, let's talk about this book I wasn't aware of.
Interesting title, Put in Pirates and the Problem with Power.
What's all this about, my friend?
So, you know, we want to fight back against the woke left and these corporations like Disney who are feeding poison to our kids.
And the best way to do that is to build up an ecosystem of different content that kids can, you know, be a part of.
I'm a dad.
I've got three kids.
My kids don't watch the Disney stuff.
They don't read those things, you know, the stories that come from those companies.
So we already subscribed to Brave Books when they reached out to me.
And I immediately jumped on board because especially my youngest daughter, these are her favorite books.
And I was like, absolutely, I got to do this.
And so they said, well, what topic do you want to do a book on?
And I said, the constitution.
Little did I know when the book would be coming out was a time when I would be living through a constitutional crisis of my own, where my constitutional rights were being attacked by my own party here in the state of Tennessee.
So it worked out in a weird way where, you know, we have the chance here to educate kids about why it's so important to protect the constitution and to fight and stand up for your constitutional rights.
More importantly, like Andrew Breitbart said, we've got to fight for our culture and have a culture because really all of this is going to dictate our politics in 30-40 years.
Are we going to allow the left to steal a generation of kids and brainwash them into becoming communists?
Or are we going to take charge and support companies like this?
You know, in the case of Brave Books, they sell their books through bravebooks.com.
They don't do it on Amazon.
They're not giving more money to Jeff Bezos.
And we've got to support companies like that.
Yeah, it's a fabulous idea.
A small measure, but a crucial measure to try and take back the culture.
I've got to test one of my theories on you, Robbie.
You've got to check out his campaign site, starbuck2022.com.
I think the left, yes, they have an ideology.
But the devilish concoction is the admixture of extremism with rank incompetence.
It doesn't matter what area you look at, national security, economics, health, whatever.
And the latest example is the vice president herself, who you think they try ...and fix her incapacity to say anything meaningful.
She's actually reading from a teleprompter, which makes this even more mind-blowing.
This is the second most powerful person in the United States, cut seven.
When it comes to the climate crisis, which is why we will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work Operating from the new norms, rules and agreements that we will convene to work together on to galvanize global action.
With that, I thank you all.
This is a matter of urgent priority for all of us and I know we will work on this together.
I'm just gonna look at my cut.
That is a 32 second cut so it's half a minute and she says the phrase work together five times Robbie.
How do these people get to where they are?
She honestly, she looks like she just learned how to read.
I mean, my little kid who's five, she can read a little more astutely than that.
That was bizarre.
She said nothing.
I mean, this is the word salad of the left.
It's kind of like, it reminds me, I know you don't have this cut, but they just asked the new press secretary today, Ducey Astor, you know, it said, can you explain this Biden tweet saying that we need to raise taxes in order to stop inflation?
And she couldn't answer the question.
I mean, they don't even bother to come up with spin anymore, it seems like, because there's no defense for the stupidity.
That they keep birthing and that's what we just consistently see is they're just birthing stupidity after stupidity after stupidity and they're not even bothering to clean it up anymore because they just know that they've stepped too far into it.
There's no defense for this stupidity.
Yeah, it's great to have a guest who gives you homework.
We need to find that clip.
We saw her giving her first press conference right now.
I listened to the beginning and the break and she said, the new press secretary talked about the fact that she's black.
Her opening comments is like, who cares whether you're black?
Do you actually have the capacity to do your job like Martin Luther King asked us?
Gosh.
God bless you, Robbie.
Keep on fighting.
Let's look at that book again.
It is... Put in Pirates and the Problem with Power.
This is America First.
All right.
I'm looking at it.
Thank you.
Okay, I think he has stepped out.
Yeah.
Oh, he's still there.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks, buddy.
That was good.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Be good.
Bye.
All right, back to him full.
Okay.
Okay.
Titles.
Have you heard about that thing at all?
Every bloody day people send it to me and it's kind of pissing me off.
I think it's very far-fetched.
It's just garbage.
You can't do that without a treaty.
It's just so silly.
What's far-fetched?
The World Health Organization ceding our sovereignty, but I'll discuss it.
Well, they've been talking about the UN doing it with gun control laws, supposedly.
But you can't do that.
You can't do that.
I know, I know.
I don't care what Geneva or New York says.
It's America.
It's called the Senate.
It's called bills signed by the president.
It's like, guys, stop smoking crack.
I'm getting flashbacks to that one time we had that caller way back when Leroy was here and we had that caller you were doing an audio only show because you were remote and he called in and said something like the UN has sent their soldiers to infiltrate America and you were just like that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard you know and just roasting him and then in the break after that we just kept roasting him after the segment had already ended oh yeah that's right I think I might have that one saved in the archives somewhere let me let me take a look there
Because that was one of the funniest things, like, in the history of this show.
Alright, you can take that, JL.
Uh, but yeah, titles, if you got some time.
Hang on.
for everything up to this point.
Solomon Starbuck in both halves of the monologue.
2A monologue.
Two minutes.
All right.
What do you mean, everything?
Uh, Solomon, Starbuck, and both halves of 2A.
Okay, Solomon, um... Flynn.
Flynn files massive suit against DOJ.
Was it DOJ or FBI?
Uh, check, I don't know.
I think he said it was FBI.
Let me check that.
Starbuck.
JC and EntitleLock here, by the way.
Okay.
Yeah, check what it is.
It is.
Just going to go to Justin News for this one.
And then how the left intimidates good men.
How the Lift Intimidates Good Men.
And then... Oh, that's for... Oh, yeah.
And then... Why did Ben Shapiro do this?
Uh-huh.
Why did Ben Shapiro do this?
30 seconds.
And then Starbuck.
Oh, we got 30 seconds.
Yep.
30 seconds.
25 now.
JCN and Title Lock here.
Stand by.
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As I teased earlier, Associate Justice Clarence Thomas was at an event speaking in Virginia this weekend.
And he actually had something to say about the deleterious long-term effects of the infamous leak of the Supreme Court's preliminary decision on Roe v. Casey play cut.
And I've been in this business long enough to know just how fragile it is.
And the institution that I'm a part of, if someone said that One line of one opinion would be leaked by anyone, and you would say, oh, that's impossible.
No one would ever do that.
There's such a belief in the rule of law, a belief in the court, a belief in what we were doing, that that was verboten.
It was beyond anyone's understanding, or at least anyone's imagination, that someone would do that.
And look where we are, where now that trust or that belief is gone forever.
And when you lose that trust, especially in the institution that I'm in, it changes the institution fundamentally.
A very sober measured response.
That leak is an assault on the rule of law in this nation.
And of course, that's what the left wants.
They want the institutions under their control or destroyed.
Let's go to your calls.
Let's go to Tom in Atlanta, line two.
Hey Sebastian, I understand that the Senate ...needs to ratify treaties.
I also understand... I'm talking about the World Health Organization and the Biden... Yeah.
...trying to give them the authority over our health care.
I understand that the left will do this if... Hang on, hang on.
Nobody knows what you're talking about, so you've got to talk to our listeners.
What is the issue?
Okay.
Okay, so you've got to introduce it.
Okay, the issue is, in the last week I've been reading about, from Michelle Bachman's comments, from some reporting on various alternate media websites, Gateway Pundit, Town Hall, etc., that the Biden administration in January sent these proposals to the
They, you know, it was their ideas to change the World Health Organization regulations so that the World Health Organization gets to call the shots in future pandemics and in other matters, things like vaccine passports, etc.
They get that authority globally if the Biden administration gets away.
We've got rhinos, as we all know, and if they don't stand up and demand it, no, you can't go there.
This is a treaty.
Forget about it.
And if you try to go there, we're not going to talk to you about anything at all, whether it's Ukraine or anything else.
I mean, I don't know how to respond to this.
I'm not that smart.
I think, you know, we've got to start with the basics and I think, you know, I've been receiving this every single day, my friend, and people need to understand the basics.
You can't give away America's sovereignty.
You can't.
I don't care whether it's the WHO or the state of Liechtenstein.
You can't have the executive say Liechtenstein now runs healthcare in America or the national defense of America.
You can't do that.
And just because the Biden administration says they're going to do it or somebody says they're going to do it doesn't mean it can happen.
So people need to calm down.
Please calm down.
Just because somebody's got a bad plan doesn't mean it changes the law.
Doesn't mean you have to have an international treaty ratified by two-thirds of Congress.
So guys, please stop it.
Thank you, Tom.
Phil, line one.
Let's squeeze you in quickly.
Yes, sir.
Thank you, Dr. G. Quick question.
If someone could ask the new White House press chief there, since the gender studies, the sexualization of our children begins and ends with Biden, would he be willing to sit into a kindergarten class with five-year-old boys, five-year-old girls, and explain sexual intercourse and how the gender studies is going to work?
We're not going to go there because you know what he's going to do.
He's going to start sniffing their hair.
So we're not going to do that.
But thank you for the provocative suggestion.
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If you missed it, I had a mini monologue on my Newsmax show recently where we talked about what's really happening in Ukraine.
So much misinformation, so much disinformation out there.
I've written it up.
It's going to be published on Newsmax's website later today or tomorrow, so make sure you read that.
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Even better than me telling you my strategic analysis is to talk to people who've actually been on the ground in that war zone, thanks to the good offices of Tom at FreedomSquare.com.
We have with us two very special guests, Daniel Bond and his partner Mary Bondarenko, who are with Good Call Ministries.
Welcome both of you to America First!
Thank you.
Thank you.
So first, tell us what Good Call Ministries is and why you went to this very dangerous part of the world recently.
Well, the Good Call Ministries is a non-profit organization that my father, Joseph Bondarenko, has started more than 15 years ago here in California.
And originally we come from Ukraine.
So from the Day one, when the war break out in Ukraine, we realized as a family that we've got to help our people in Ukraine.
And since that moment, we've been working every day, utilizing all our contacts, resources, in order to help common people of Ukraine.
And tell us what... Sorry, please go ahead, Mary.
So, Mr. Gorka, you asked us why did we go.
A lot of people thought we were crazy by making this decision and going there, but we thought about it, we prayed about it, and we knew that at one point we had to go to Ukraine and see the people, the suffering people.
We had to see the work that we've started and systemize the help because we see that this war is continuing and people continue to suffer.
All right, tell us where you went and what did you actually see?
How are the Ukrainians faring?
Because we've seen the largest exodus of refugees in the modern age from any crisis, more than three million, mostly to Poland but elsewhere.
We've seen hospitals, we've seen maternity clinics bombed, we've seen at least 30,000 Ukrainians who have been shipped out and have put into camps in Russia.
So tell us where you went and what you actually saw.
So we started our trip from going to Lviv.
From Lviv, we went to a couple of cities, Zdolbunov, Rivne Oblast, we went to Kiev, we went to Zhytomyr.
And we did see the horrific atrocities that have happened to people.
Houses ruined, lives ruined.
And not much of a help, honestly, that Ukrainian are people, the people getting.
Tell us about, carry on, tell us what the mood, the spirit of the people is, please.
Well, I think most of the people, they are really in big shock.
They never thought or expected that literally the bombs will be flying into their neighborhood.
And so they are just desperate for answers why it happened to us, why nobody warned us.
And in spite of, you know, being In the war zone, I've been encouraged by so many Ukrainian people by their willingness to stand up for their freedom, to stand up, you know, to defend their land.
And many of them, and one of the work that we start doing Like almost two months ago is the helping refugees and many of those refugees, believe it or not, they didn't want to go even from the East Ukraine to the West Ukraine.
Because they love so much their small villages, you know, their home, so they want to stay somewhere nearby.
So our mission was to concentrate in the Poltava region, that's where very close from Kharkov, Sumy, many other small villages where the war zone actually was happening and happening at this moment.
So, your father wrote a famous book, the KGB's Most Wanted, that's Joseph Bondarenko, and I have to ask you to respond to this idea that sadly many people here in America and the West have
caught on to or believe that somehow a KGB colonel like Vladimir Putin is fighting for the Russians in Ukraine.
And, you know, this is a war against Nazis.
And somehow this is the first good KGB colonel in history.
Can you help us with that rumor that is convincing far too many people?
Well, unfortunately, our family have learned the socialism and communism from the first hand.
When I was seven years old, my dad was arrested and put in prison for three years.
And literally, we as a family were prosecuted on a daily basis.
We were not a normal part of the society.
We were labeled because we never agreed with the mainstream of the propaganda.
Literally, the communist regime did everything in their power to destroy people who were not with them.
And unfortunately, Mr. Gorka, I am seeing Those signs coming to the United States when you don't agree with somebody, they label you, outcast the society that you are not a normal human being, you are not agreeing, you know, with the rest of us.
So I tell you one thing that the communism and socialism has demonic spirit and unfortunately has nothing changed since, you know, the revolution took place.
The time when my dad was persecuted because he said, I will never agree to what government tells me to do.
I will never bow down before the tyranny.
I will still preach the gospel.
I will still teach my kids and the kids of the Soviet Union, the good news of Jesus Christ.
And my heart is really worried at this moment that current administration is really, you know, putting all this social communist agenda onto, you know, the young generation here and the minds of people, which the young generation here and the minds of people, which is demonic and it will destroy our society.
And I believe we are one of those immigrants who never took any day for granted living in the United States for the last 24 years.
We love this country and we want to share our story.
Well, God bless you and your father for telling the truth, for fighting for the truth today.
The book is The KGB's Most Wanted by Joseph Bondarenko.
We are talking to Daniel Bond and Mary Bondarenko.
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Demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success.
Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards.
As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore.
A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him.
Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it.
There's more than one way to win a war.
That is, of course, the KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov.
Eric, let's post the whole video.
Not on my Twitter account.
Because Twitter hasn't done anything about it being hacked yesterday.
But let's put it on Truth Social.
Let's put it on Facebook.
Let's put it everywhere else.
Because he's right.
Just like Sun Tzu said millennia ago.
The ultimate victory is to win without firing a shot, without actually having to fight.
How do you do that?
Psychologically.
You demoralize the enemy to a point at which they don't want to fight, or they don't think it's worth fighting, or they're just in such a state of demoralization that that's it, you can take over.
And we may have won the Cold War on November 9th, 1989, but the left in America, the neo-leftists, the next-gen leftists, they had a plan called the march, the long march through the institutions.
And that's how we are where we are today.
With the media, with Hollywood, with the schools in the hands of those who hate America.
They may not see themselves as communists, but if you believe in critical race theory, if you want to push the radical transgender agenda, you are in the same camp as those who hate America because they believe in Karl Marx.
It's time for you to stand up and it's time for every American to cleave to the truth so that we can take back our Republic.
The next hour it's going to be A man who's got a plan.
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Back with the one and only troublemaker extraordinaire, Jim Hansen.
We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
This is organized crime.
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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Filthy business but oh so fascinating and who better to discuss it with one-on-one than a true renaissance man he can talk to you about geopolitics political warfare and the swamp and what and the quickest and best way to clean your m16 he is jim hansen the author of winning the second civil war Allegedly, without firing a shot.
Jim, welcome to our new studio.
What a wonderful place, dude.
I like it.
Not enough guns, though, right?
You know, is there some rule about that?
We'll find out.
We'll do some research.
I know we can't smoke cigars, that's the biggest problem, but we'll find out about the Second Amendment.
Welcome in studio.
We have so much to discuss.
Russia, Ukraine, Finland, Sweden, the border.
But let's talk about tomorrow.
It's been a rather dirty primary season in the Granite State, the Keystone State.
Talk to us about, sorry, Granites, New Hampshire, the Keystone State of Pennsylvania.
We've invited Oz, Dr. Oz on the show.
We're constantly told by his PR team that It's very busy.
We'll get back to you.
We'll get back to you.
He seems to be ducking and, you know, avoiding media of late.
Kathy Barnett, who I've known for years, when she first came on Fox when I was hosting the national security moms there on Fox and Friends, came on Thursday when all the hubbub about her D214s and her military service erupted.
I asked her some tough questions.
She acquitted herself quite well.
So give us your take as somebody who understands Trump, MAGA, The Swamp, The Rhinos.
What's your take on Pennsylvania?
Anybody but the Democrats, so I think all this infighting was not helpful.
I think Oz doesn't want to come on your show, because you're going to ask him why he's pals with Erdogan, why he voted in the last Turkish election, why he hasn't renounced his citizenship, and why he's not even vaguely a conservative in any meaningful way.
I understand Trump likes celebrities.
Okay, I get it.
And he figured name recognition matters.
That's a reasonable thing to do.
But the problem is, now we've got not just a rhino, we've got a... I don't even know what he is.
He's a no.
You know, he's a nothing.
And if he wins, he may be able to do it.
But I would prefer someone who's actually on our team.
All right, let me run one theory past you.
So as a individual who's a naturalized citizen, I still got my British citizenship, I still got my Hungarian.
When I got my TS clearance, it was very clear.
They said, they changed the rules.
You can be a dual or triple national.
You're not allowed to have an active passport in those other nationalities.
That's changed.
Way back when, you weren't even allowed to, especially if you're an Israeli, you had to renounce your citizenship.
That doesn't occur anymore.
They've changed the rules.
However, What Mr. G, our producer, said about Oz and I'm curious what you think.
Is he has a certain Trumpian quality whereby he's the outsider who's come from that world of celebrity, has got lots of money that's his, doesn't come from special interest groups.
What about this theory?
The fact that he's pissed off everybody who used to love him, who used to watch his show, doesn't that indicate a certain level of commitment?
It's like, you know, burning your galleys once you arrived in the new world or burning the bridges.
Or is he just being foolish?
Or is he a faker?
Well, I think it's fair to say.
He went ahead and pushed all his chips in.
And that's fair, and credit to him for that.
But I think, you remember down at CPAC when that guy wanted to ask you, if you're an American now, how come you still got a British accent?
Right.
Well, you're not voting in UK elections, are you?
No.
Okay, that's a bit of a problem for me.
That's a little bit more I'm an immigrant.
My grandmother was an immigrant.
So I'm a second-generation American.
I'm fine with that.
I just worry Oz was a little too tight with Erdogan, who's an Islamist tyrant.
He's a neo-Ottomanist tyrant.
He's a stupid man, but he's also dangerous because he's a neo-Ottomanist.
Absolutely.
Okay, let's pivot from him as a Turkish-American national to the question of Turkey and the breaking news.
Your former Green Beret, your weapons guy, the announcement, we can put up the headline, Finland is going to deposit those articles of accession to the HQ, the NATO North Atlantic Council.
Likely that Sweden will follow suit.
Is this small beer or is this big geopolitical news?
That's huge.
And add Sweden to it.
I'm full Swedish.
Hanson, Swanson, Pearson.
The more Vikings in NATO, the better.
See, my line is, the Finns... My son texted me last night and said, what's it really going to mean if the Finns join NATO?
And I said, finally we'll have some really good snipers.
You know those captured things where they have it?
There was one that had a picture of just a forest covered in snow and it had all the blocks checked and it said, check every block with a Finnish sniper.
Boom, boom, boom.
And not just snipers.
Good snipers.
And snipers...
Who know how to kill Russians.
Right.
Right?
I mean, this is the big deal.
If you look at the Cold War that we grew up in, these were countries... I mean, Sweden played footsie under the table with us when it came to submarines and other stuff and docking.
But, you know, Finland and ostensibly Sweden, their neutrality was an article of faith for those communities.
I mean, they were doing their own thing, like Sesame Street.
One of these kids is doing his own thing.
And now, with this KGB colonel invading Ukraine, it's just rewritten 40 years of history.
And add to the fact that we have a commander-in-chief who's not up to the task of anything more than picking his pudding after his afternoon nap.
So Biden's the greatest recruiter for NATO we ever had.
And I guess at some level that's good.
I would prefer it didn't take us dancing on the edge of World War III to make these things happen, but it kind of did.
Trump did some good work, you know, getting the NATO countries to start paying their freight.
Well, and warning them about Russian gas.
Weird.
There's actually a threat there?
Maybe you guys shouldn't rely on a guy who's not your friend to stay warm in the winter?
You know, now we've got all this and you've got an actual danger.
And the real danger is that if Putin loses, like these idiots seem to be pushing him towards, they want to punish him and they want to bloody his nose.
What's he going to do?
I don't want him in a corner.
I want him happier than he is with a total loss.
So this is big news in MAGO world.
The 40 billion for Ukraine.
We have Rand Paul stepping into the breach saying I'm a senator and every senator can actually stop stuff that people don't realize how powerful individual senators are.
He wants accounting.
He wants a special team to look into what they're spending the money on.
Because this thing is, you know, maybe half of it gets to Ukraine.
I mean, there's money in there.
There's money.
There's a line item for unspecified funding for the CIA.
Just, just, here's a bag.
Ukraine bill.
Ukraine assistance.
Oh, but here's a bag of cash for the CIA.
So, here's my take.
Because a lot of people are pissed in our community.
I think Ukraine is having their 1776.
Anybody invading, anyone being invaded by Russia is a bad thing.
And we should help them because guess what?
If the French hadn't helped the founding fathers, this would still be a British colony.
So without French naval support, this little insurgency doesn't become America.
However, the idea that we're giving money to one of the most corrupt nations in Europe It's stupid.
Then you have all the nexus with Hunter, Burisma and everything else.
And on top of that, if you read, if you talk, you know, my best mentor from my old military intelligence unit, who's the Kremlinologist in the UK, said this is what they need.
They need guns, they need artillery, they need ammunition, they need wheeled vehicles, lots of them, and they need training in safe locations.
So get their reserve territorial units into Poland, into the Baltic Spin them up on irregular warfare and then send them back.
That's what they need.
That's not what we're doing.
We're sending them cash, Jim.
Yeah, and come on.
Someone said Ukraine is a battle for democracy.
Ukraine holds elections.
To call it a democracy is a bit of a stretch.
It's a kleptocracy, it's an oligarchy, it's all of those things.
And I think, what's the goal?
Are we going to have a war long enough to push Russia back across the border, give up Crimea?
You know, give up that Donbass Crescent?
I don't think they're going to do that.
This is the crucial thing.
You know, as anybody who understands strategy, you never employ force unless you define the end state.
In the last nine weeks, I don't see, what is the White House's end state?
To support the current thing and to distract us from all the things that are going wrong across America.
I mean, it's a dog wag and it's an incredibly bad one because I think it does look like Putin's sick, which makes him even crazier because now he was like, I need to cement my legacy.
And I don't know what he was going to let his legacy be, but I don't want to push him so far that we'd make this bigger than it needed to be.
We should have been pushing for peace instead of increasing the war, and we never did that.
Boris Johnson went over there and said, no, don't talk to Putin.
You know?
I mean, what are we doing?
We want a bigger war.
I'll say one thing.
If they can link Mario Paul, which is under Russian control, with Odessa, That has massive repercussions for everybody.
The fact that Ukraine suddenly becomes a landlocked nation, can't export food or fertilizer to Europe, to Africa, you name it.
Then suddenly, whether you like it or not, that war is interested in you whether you're interested in it or not.
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We've had the leak from the Supreme Court.
Will Chamberlain did this massive thread.
He was on the show like you for an hour where he pretty much nailed it as to who the leaker is.
This crazy clerk that works for Breyer who's been rabidly pro-abortion.
Her essay to get on the Supreme Court was about Abortion rights for everybody!
So it looks like we know who it is.
Let's talk about the ramifications.
So let's do, you know, you understand information warfare.
My take with this leak, whoever did it, is it was pretty bloody stupid in terms of information management.
Because if this decision, which I've read, I've actually, you can listen guys, where's my camera?
Camera three.
If you want to know what's really in the document, I know you're busy.
Okay, you don't sit down and read 70 pages.
I have highlighted the most important parts of the actual Alito decision and I've read it onto the record, audio and video.
We posted it everywhere at the weekend.
Go and find it.
It's on Rumble.
It's on my social media accounts.
You need to know the truth because the left won't tell you what's in it.
You can actually listen or watch me tell you what's the actual content.
So when it comes to The decision.
It's masterful.
It is a tour de force.
It is a historic overview of Western civilization, especially British and American law on abortion, where it was illegal!
I mean, from quickening, it was illegal, period, until 73.
Then it destroys
wrote it destroys case he says no no what do you mean stare decisis we can't change laws and why don't we still have slaves in america of course that's absurd um so it's an amazing document but my take is this if they'd waited till june because they wrote it in february they're supposed to publish in june and have the vote then it would have been a you know a nuclear bomb for the left that they could have used to you know ride into the midterms now they drop it a month early
They've got to maintain that craziness.
And I think, Jim, anybody who's really pro-death, they're not going to suddenly vote Democrat because it leaked, are they?
No.
It was a miscalculation.
I think it's zealotry.
That clerk is a zealot.
The people who are that rabidly pro-infanticide are zealots, and they think everyone else has to be.
And I think the interesting thing about it, the only thing they did well in this whole thing is the argument is about abortion, not the fact that this opinion is about what bad constitutional law Roe v. Wade was.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Roe v. Wade was abysmal.
It was bad at all.
Non-existent.
There was no constitutionality in Roe v. Wade.
The opinion reminds me of D.C.
v. Heller in the way that Alito followed the path Scalia did where he walked through history, he showed what it was all the way down, they showed all the places it ties into.
That's the famous Second Amendment decision that basically made D.C.
a shallow state.
Yeah, and now we've got a situation where he says there was absolutely no constitutional basis for Roe v. Wade, send it back to the states.
And the left has managed to obscure that with all the fury about, is this banning abortion?
So, I've got to ask you, on that note, and again, this is why you write what you write, this is why you do what you do.
Where is even the minimal, minimal understanding of political warfare and information warfare on our side?
Because when Chuck Schumer stands up on Thursday and says in a press conference, women will die And women will go to prison if this, I mean he's intimidating the justices again, if this decision passes.
When in fact what we're talking about, and it's a beautiful phrase, like four times in the document, we are sending this issue back to the place where it should be, in the states where the people can debate amongst themselves and their representatives, which is the essence of the republic.
But the left says, no, no, no, women are going to be killed with coat hangers.
The fact that the GOP has no response, Jim.
Have they learned nothing from my old boss?
Oh, they haven't.
And the problem is, in Information Warfare, he who defines the battlefield wins the argument.
And they made the argument about women's rights.
But it's backfiring, I think.
We may suck, our side may suck, and that's a fact, but they chose a battle that is pro-infanticide versus pro-life.
In the same way that they now have chosen pro-thought police versus pro-free speech.
They've staked out two very uncommon sense positions that I don't think are working for them the way inside their bubble they work.
Because, and they're doing that because, and this is the phrase I came up with, tell me if it has traction with you.
These individuals, whether it's the grassroots, whether it's Nancy, whether it's the machine, they have become literal hostages to their own ideology.
They cannot think outside of the doctrinaire blinkers and shackles of their ideology.
If it's pro-life, oh it's evil!
Right?
Oh, no.
Yeah.
And because it's religious to them, they go ahead and they have to fight it to the death.
It is life and death to them, every one of these issues.
So the thought police is a life or death issue because people will be bullied, die, and it'll be awful.
You know, if the decision goes back to the States and you can't kill babies up to the few seconds after birth, then, oh, my God, women are going to die.
And it becomes to normal people, I think, right now, so much credibility is off-putting and unbelievable.
because we no longer trust the way the media or anybody portrays things.
So when you see something crazy, people are now more attuned to it to go, really?
Because that doesn't make sense to me.
And when you talk about disinformation, I've got to ask you this, Nina Jankiewicz, the big sis, peculiar, the big sis, the strange individual who is now the Obergruppenführer of truth at the Disinformation Governance Board.
Does she survive?
I mean, is she like Teflon coated?
Because another video and another video.
Is she going to be OK?
Thank God for her.
I could not be happier that she is in the position she is because she is so absurd.
She says on Twitter, blue checks should be able to edit other people's tweets.
Thank you, Madam Commissar, for admitting, yes, you are the thought police.
I think she is a perfect object lesson in what the left wants at a time when people are open to hearing it.
You know, you got Elon Musk, who, don't you chicken out, you weasel.
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Slow down.
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I want to dedicate some time to Elon.
I think he's bought the potential disinformation about his change of plans on Friday, but we will talk.
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Is this a game changer?
Will it affect those who are unpolitical or in the middle potentially?
What it needs to change is any state that still has a law that allows mail-out ballots to everybody, ballot harvesting or any of these ways, that our ballots don't go from one person's hand to the election officials directly.
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Now, I can understand.
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And they did nothing with it.
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And we have to stop it.
That's the thing.
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Unfortunately, that happened.
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I'm as manger as the next guy, okay?
But there's no constitutional avenue for rectifying it once the Electoral College count has been counted by the President of the College, of the Senate, which of course was Mike Pence.
But there is something we can do that's not related to the result, which is prosecutors have to prosecute the mules and the people who collected the bloody ballots!
And I heard the names of the NGOs are coming out and those kind of things.
The whole data dump.
Let me be clear.
We had Catherine and Greg who did all the heavy lifting with True The Vote.
We had a whole hour with them on Friday.
They are going to drop One, almost two petabytes of data, hundreds of millions of cell phone signals to the geolocation, and almost five million minutes of CCTV camera footage of the drug boxes.
And then everybody, I mean look, you have to know what you're doing, you don't have to be a Jim Hansen or whatever, but the data is going to be freely accessible.
That's going to be a game changer.
It is, and you said something to me last week when we were talking that you're sick of investigation, you're sick of this.
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You want criminal charges.
And I'm with you 100%.
So whoever they can show, I don't care how small a charge it is, hang it on them.
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And that's going to require, I don't know, we're going to have to find whatever jurisdictions where they've got decent prosecutors.
But they exist.
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The GOP has to be part of this.
Are they going to do this?
Are they going to clean it up?
Are they going to create the fences around the election to protect it, Jim?
Come on!
Well, here's something that I think's fun.
Because Kinziger and Liz Cheney dropped a dime on McCarthy now, you know, and succeeded him for the January 6th garbage, maybe he'll find a spine or pretend or they'll duct tape him to a pole or something, and he'll show, you know, that he can actually act like the leader of our party.
Again, how stupid are they?
That a guy who waivers, I think is a nice guy, but weak, and then they subpoena him?
You know he's got nothing!
But how stupid are they?
Very!
Thank you!
I mean, it's Kinzinger and Liz Cheney!
Come on!
Two of the biggest dipsticks!
That was close.
That's close.
That's alright.
We can beep that out in case.
We know where you're trained.
We know you're from Bragg.
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We've got to talk about his book as well.
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All right so let's let's talk about my philosophy Jim that we discussed what was it like a week ago over coffee because I've had it especially after the audio we played on Friday of Lindsey Graham getting caught red-handed by Jesse Walters on the, oh, Biden would be much better than Trump, you know.
And this is the guy who's been promising us subpoenas for five years.
We're going to subpoena the Swamp and the Democrats.
He is emblematic of what's wrong with this stinking cesspit of a city.
I've had Matt Gaetz and MTG on the show regularly for something we call the America First Strategy Sessions.
And they have this great vision.
Matt said, when we win in the midterms, God willing, we're going to turn every single committee of Congress into an Investigatory Committee.
We're not going to have special standing ones.
Everyone, whether it's AG, whether it's Justice, whether it's National Defense and Armed Forces, will be an Investigatory Committee.
We're going to subpoena the crap out of these cowards and treasonous individuals.
And I thought, yeah, that's interesting, I like that.
But then I realized, I don't care about subpoenas.
I don't care about another Inspector General's report that leads to nada.
I want prosecutions.
If Lady Liberty truly wears a blindfold, then if you have been a seditionist, traitorous piece of scum, using their clearances like John Brennan, like Vindman, like Eric Charmella, to subvert the will of the people, even if you're a Trump appointee, when Mark Esper says, I was defending even if you're a Trump appointee, when Mark Esper says, I was defending America as the Secretary of Defense from the president, you go, and how many people voted for Squanzoli, none.
Then you should be up on charges.
So I've never been called a radical by conservatives, but I think it's time to find – because it's not going to be feds.
It's going to be a county prosecutor.
It's going to be somebody in a Republican state that says, you know what?
Mark Esper, you undermined my safety and the safety of my citizens as well.
I'm going to prosecute you.
Is this a crazy wish list?
No, I mean, rule number one, we're in a war, we're fighting for the heart of the republic, and any tool, any weapon we have that you don't use is idiotic.
You know, I mean, and another one that I like, all right, those are good ways, but even in Congress, they can write into the appropriation bills things they can and cannot do But they never do that.
They never do that.
Do it!
Right in there.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion, none.
Dead.
Done.
No more.
CRT, done.
Information control, disinformation, czars, none.
Zero money.
No money spent on it.
And I think they need to do that.
And then anything else they can do, then use your investigatory powers and then give those reports to whoever can bring any kind of charges against them and make them defend themselves.
You know, they do it to us!
Anything they can find, they push against us.
It's time to use all of the tools in our arsenal.
Here I'm going to ask the impolitic, the impolite question.
Everything you've said, which is all theoretically possible, you can say in a bill, because you're Congress, you have the purse strings, we are funding DHS, but we will give you no money if you have an information czar.
Bingo!
I mean, it's very easy to do that.
But somebody has to put that in there.
You have to have people of spine, people of character.
Do we have those people?
We can win the midterms, Jim, but does the blob from the Steve McQueen movie simply not just suck them in like an amoeba and the MAGA candidates become the deputy chair of the committee while the Rhino's running it?
But every election, we get a few more of our people in, and a few less of theirs, and their people, even the McCarthys and the Rhinos of the world, are now looking at it going, this is actually an intolerable situation.
So I don't have a lot of hope.
It's incremental.
You know, it's not, I wish it was a revolution.
I wish people would just wake up and go, yeah!
You know, let's do this.
They don't.
Especially the ones who are in the swamp.
You know, who are part of it.
But as long as we get them to go one step farther every chance we can, then we're winning.
And I feel the tide's shifting our direction.
The other side went crazy.
America saw it.
And now our team is normals.
Normals against the crazies.
This is, as somebody put it a week ago, this is perhaps the only bright aspect of the stolen election, that a lot of people didn't believe how crazy the Democrats are.
And when you see there's no baby formula, but there's $40 billion going to Ukraine and the borders are open, you have to be a special kind of indoctrinated to say the Democrat Party is normal. - Good, exactly.
It had to get bad enough that it affected normal people.
Because we're busy.
We're Americans.
We've got lives.
We've got to get the kids to soccer practice.
We've got things to do that keep us away from that.
Biden sucked so much like a turbo Dyson that no one can ignore it anymore.
And that's good.
On their side, they've got to defend it.
On our side, we can look at it and go, that is just bat guano crazy.
And normal people are looking at us going, I'm with them.
And we're like, well, good.
You're welcome.
You're a hardworking, responsible, prosperity, and security American.
You are with us.
Now act like it.
Now, we've talked about the battle space being the information battle space.
His name's come up on Friday.
We have the news that Elon Musk is getting cold feet or he wants to clear the bots out of Twitter before he finalizes the deal.
Somebody said it's a very shrewd, very, very shrewd ploy on his behalf because The idea that he didn't know that there are a lot of bots is silly.
Of course he knows.
Right.
But he wants a better price.
I think so.
Where are you at when it comes to this guy?
Because I'm excited because I've said it before.
There are three people who are influential.
Forget, you know, Kim Kardashian and her fake backside.
There are three intellectual influences in the world.
And they're, you know, Joe Rogan, the libertarian.
There's Jordan Peterson, classic small L liberal.
And there's Musk who, he may not be a Thatcherite like me or a Reaganaut, He's a Muskean.
He's a Muskean, but when he tweets, Twitter is clearly left-wing, he's on the right side of the issue.
So when those are the three big influences, I'm excited.
I think, you know, the cool kids are the conservatives now.
But, you know, I was given that cold shower by Alex Marlow, the editor-in-chief at Breitbart.
Never trust a billionaire.
You can't, you know, the billionaires aren't going to save America.
So as an information warrior, as a professional in the sphere, Where are you right now about a month into this deal?
I hope he goes through with it.
I don't see why he wouldn't.
I think you're right.
I think he's jockeying for a better price.
And the thing is, he's kind of like, you know, Oz.
He pushed all in.
He alienated a lot of his customer base for Tesla.
Teslas are bought largely by these guys.
So I think, given that, he either makes this work, turns it around, and shows that he is the superstar billionaire businessman guy and free speech fighter, or he looks like a fool.
No, because it really burns his rep.
Because he's no longer just a businessman.
He has burned some bridges by saying that, what was it, that Ted Talks second, that where he said, yeah, I'm not really doing this for the money.
I'm doing it because I believe in freedom of speech.
Well, dude, if you wimp out on this, Looks bad for you.
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Let's first get the nasty part out of the way.
It's the worst war we ever had.
We had, what, 58,000 killed in Vietnam.
We had 600,000 Americans die in the Civil War.
We don't want one.
But we have to ask the question, is it possible?
Do they want one?
No.
They want us to cave.
I mean, they want to win it administratively.
You know, bureaucratize people into submission.
Intimidate us with the DHS, with the parents being hunted down by the FBI for, you know, standing up at school board meetings.
Yeah.
And they were winning.
They were doing it quite well, but they overstepped.
Again, Trump pushed them over the edge.
And so they went crazy.
And now they've got Biden as a puppet.
And so all the things they've always wanted to do, they're just going to go ahead and do it.
Yeah, because they have no reins.
They don't have a pragma.
I don't like Clinton, but at least Clinton was a pragmatist.
And he would have said, you want to do what at DHS?
He would have said, that's a little crazy.
But they have no reins.
Therefore, they're overstepping the mark.
So what happens?
In Virginia, Yankin is kind of, you know, wimping out when it comes to protecting the justices.
He's asking them.
When Team Sears isn't.
On Friday, the conservative governor said he asked the DOJ to protect the justices.
But at least in Virginia, what we saw, where I was, is a huge awakening of people who never saw themselves as political, but would find out who the precinct captain is and say, I don't know anything about politics, but can you use me?
How do we leverage that in the next six months?
In exactly that way.
Everybody has to talk to one other person.
That's the one thing.
None of us wanted to be political.
I hate politics.
It is one of my least favorite things on the planet.
But we gave them way too much power, and until we steal that back from them, we all have to be political.
They brought it to us.
I just want to be left alone to live my life, smoke cigars in my backyard, and yell at the squirrels.
That's all I want them to do.
They won't let me do that.
Because they won't let me do that until we win this second Civil War, and I think we're on the offensive now.
Everybody has to bring somebody to the fight.
Grab your neighbor, grab your cousin, talk to somebody to barbecue, and get them in the fray.
Because that's been happening.
That's what happened at the school boards, that's what's happened everywhere else, and I think that is going to be enough to put us over the top.
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