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I'm just being shellacked with airstrikes, uh, and bombardment, um, as we talked about, uh, earlier, um, uh,
Both sides fighting very, very hard over Mariupol.
From a geographic perspective, clearly it's very important to both sides because of where it's located right there at the southern sort of end of the Donbas region.
Three today.
That's okay.
You had three yesterday.
I want to know one thing.
Who made that person an admiral?
What a clown show.
Welcome, dear friends.
That's happening right now, live.
The disgrace to the Navy that is John Kirby, who is the Pentagon press secretary or spokesman, is taking questions.
A disaster of a press secretary.
We're going to be giving examples of how the narrative is falling apart when it comes to America and the Ukraine.
And answering the question, Who's in charge really?
I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump, and this is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
We will be joined by perhaps one of the greatest experts on the Communist threat to America alive today, Professor Paul Kengor for our one-on-one.
We'll be connecting to the West Coast and our warrior Princess Jennifer Horne.
Trish Regan will talk to us the latest startling economic figures that all of us have to live through, and one of the most popular YouTubers out there, Mr. Reagan, Chris Coles, on the revelations that have been released this morning by Chris Ruffalo, the inside videos from Disney on their secret gay agenda.
Yes, for all of us who thought the evangelicals were crazy for decades, they weren't.
These organizations, these mega, buck, huge corporations have become part of the grooming complex of the left.
All right, let's talk to the issue of the Ukraine.
What are we doing in the Ukraine?
What is the White House permitting to occur?
We've had the man who sadly bears the moniker, the rank of Commander-in-Chief, say that this man, for God's sake, must be removed.
Then he said to the 82nd Airborne, you'll see it soon enough.
See what?
That's so weird.
Are we deploying troops to the Ukraine?
This is his attempt to backpedal those comments.
Cut five.
I had a meeting with the heads of state of four allies in NATO, France, Germany, the United States, and Great Britain.
Hang on, hang on.
Can you just hear what he said?
They said, I had a meeting with the heads of states of these countries, including the United States.
Is he meeting with himself?
Is he senile?
Do you need any more evidence?
Did you hear what he just said?
I had a meeting with the heads of states of four countries to include the United States.
Did he look in the mirror?
Hello, I'm Sleepy Joe.
Hello, Sleepy Joe!
I'm Beijing Biden!
Pleased to meet you!
Sorry, I just had to jump in there and play that whole cut again.
I had a meeting with the heads of state of four allies in NATO, France, Germany, the United States, and Great Britain.
And there seems to be a consensus that let's just see what they have to offer.
We'll find out what they do.
But in the meantime, We're going to continue to keep strong the sanctions.
We're going to continue to provide the Ukrainian military with their capacity to defend themselves.
Really?
What does that mean?
What does the fact that we are training Ukrainians really mean?
Well, somebody asked that question of John Kirby.
Who did a very, very good Biden impression.
This is what he said about American involvement with Ukrainian soldiers.
Cut 4.
There is, you know, there's some liaising going on as the Ukrainians go into Poland, for instance, and they are, we're transposing shipments of material to them, and so there's some general liaising going on in that regard, and that's what the President was referring to.
I want to count how many times he said the word, uh.
Play that again, Eric.
There is, you know, there's some liaising going on as the Ukrainians go into Poland, for instance, and they are, we're transposing shipments of material to them, and so there's some general liaising going on in that regard, and that's what the President was referring to.
Okay guys, I did the math.
We're going to do some high algebra here.
We had a 23 second cut in which John Kirby, the Pentagon clown, said errr 13 times.
That's impressive.
That's more than every two seconds.
Did I do that right?
Is that good math?
13 errs in 23 seconds.
I do think he did that.
And then he said that we are liaising.
Liaising?
Liaising as we transpose equipment.
Transpose equipment?
Now let's unpack this for a second.
What's really going on?
Are we training Ukrainians?
Do you not know what's going on?
Or are you trying to hide something?
Because if you are, this is how it should go.
Number one, you're not doing it and you say we're not doing it.
Number two, you do it and you do it covertly.
You do it surreptitiously.
You could use, oh I don't know, the CIA.
To train people, members of Delta Force, the SEALs, the Green Berets, who are the component that is expert at irregular and unconventional warfare.
But you don't bloody talk about it!
Or, if you're a real leader, you say, yeah, We just trained this regiment of Ukrainians yesterday in Poland and we're making them more capable of killing Russians.
I think that's probably what my old boss would do.
Yeah, we asked these three regiments, we got them out of Ukraine for two weeks, and we trained them on the use of the javelin, on the stinger, improvised munitions, booby traps, because we want every stinking invading Russian to surrender or to bleed to death or be turned into red mist.
It's what I do.
Because that would scare them.
That would send a message to Putin.
Hey, we're playing hardball this time.
You don't get to steal another country.
But they didn't do any of it.
They're bumbling fools.
Nobody's in charge.
Everybody says, oh, it's Obama.
Obama wouldn't know anything about war.
Are you kidding me?
He's probably smoking a joint somewhere.
Because, you know, he has a proclivity for these things.
Just read his memoirs.
It's not ad hominem.
It's his own admission.
Probably in a basement somewhere watching ESPN.
With the munchies.
The only people who are in charge of anything are the domestic ideologues.
The likes of Susan Rice, AOC.
The extremists.
Pumping the insanity of socialism, communism, transgenderism through our schools and through the centres of power in this nation.
But when it comes to national security, nobody's in charge.
Not Biden, not Jake Sullivan, not the politically correct Mark Milley, the fat disgrace to the army uniform.
And not that clown Kirby.
That's why we're living in dangerous times.
Because they're all amateurs.
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*music* What the president- It was so perfect that he did it again as you came in with the live audio.
He was stuttering all the way, man.
Yeah, he was stuttering like crazy.
And you know when he's lying.
Yeah, it's really hard to tell the truth if you don't know the truth.
His conscience shows through just a little bit.
What's the problem with one?
She wants to know why you keep saying that.
Okay.
All right.
I've never heard you say that.
I think like once.
I said it twice.
Twice, yeah.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if you'd ever call Ronald Reagan an actor.
Yeah, just because actors should not be presidents.
Okay.
Can you get Cassio to post four?
Yep.
And then can you play for me, Eric?
Oh yeah, the Walt Disney cut ten.
Cut ten.
Now another of our World Fair exhibits that features the audio-animatronics is the Carousel Theatre of Progress.
Well, what do you do?
This is the Carousel Theatre of Progress.
In act one, the audience meets an audio-animatronic family.
The time is just before the turn of the century.
That's great, that's great.
Father the host.
Give me audio cut eleven.
Good morning, Governor DeSantis.
Ron here.
Don't say gay.
Don't f***ing say, you f***ing Nazi pig.
You piece of s***.
That's gotta be someone who read one headline and said, oh, let me go after him.
He's so insane.
Ron Perlman probably went more insane than any other actor, thanks to Troye Sivan.
No, no, no, no, no!
Come on!
Have you seen some of his range?
John Kerry!
Kerry's always been crazy.
He's loopy!
Kerry's always been crazy.
He's psychotic!
Are you kidding me?
I think they do it just to get roles.
Well, probably, yeah.
Because they play these crazy, gotta be the hard man characters, yeah.
But Jim Carrey stopped being relevant in the early 2000s, I think.
Stopped ringing now.
It's Skype, right?
Uh, yeah.
Okay, I'll pull the Skype up.
I realize that whole...
getting slapped, Will Smith's slap thing is so confusing to the left because critical theory doesn't allow...
There's a guy with a microphone so he's the oppressor.
That's what I said.
They don't know how to handle it.
He's the oppressor.
But the one who's attacking the woman because speech is violence is the oppressor.
And Chris Rock is a slightly darker shade of black than Will Smith so he's the victim.
He's not answering yet.
It's still ringing.
Can you text me the name of the person in Cut 8?
Uh, Jeff.
I don't know who it is, and there's so many inclusion managers, I don't know.
Okay, that's fine.
Still ringing, he's not answering.
Let me hang up and try again.
Okay, I put one on hold.
The phone's working again, so that's good.
Alright, 50 seconds.
But yeah, the critical theory, the oppressor versus the oppressed.
You've got to have the power dynamic, and it's just, it's a perplexer for them.
They don't know.
It does not compute.
The more you look at it, the more it's... Still, you said one second.
Oh, okay.
And then I came to, it's got to be the arena of white people who are watching that has to be the problem.
Right.
Well, all three of them.
All right, so I'm going to play...
Cut eight.
Where's that come in?
But I'll tee it up.
You'll tee up cut eight, okay.
Should I try calling it one more time, Geoff?
Yeah, try now.
Okay, calling now.
It's real.
Then cut eight.
And back.
And cut eight.
Hopefully have them on screen.
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Dear friends, welcome back to America First.
We've got to talk about what's going on in the entertainment industry.
Thanks to Chris Rufo, two videos are now going viral.
Internal meeting videos from the Disney Corporation.
The first one is the Disney manager for inclusion and diversity who has made speech code a reality inside Disney.
Cut eight.
Last summer, we removed all of the gendered greetings in relationship to our lives fields, so we no longer say ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
We've provided training for all of our cast members in relationship to that, so now they know it's hello everyone or hello friends.
We are in the process of changing over those recorded messages.
And so many of you are probably familiar when we brought the fireworks back to the Magic Kingdom, we no longer say ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we say dreamers of all ages.
And so I love the fact that it's opened up the creativity, the opportunity for our cast members to look at that.
We have our cast members working with merchandise, working with food and beverage, working with all of our guest-facing areas where perhaps, you know, we want to create that magical moment with our cast members, with our guests.
And we don't want to just assume because someone might be in our interpretation, maybe presenting as female, that they may not want to be called princess.
So let's think differently about how do we really engage with our guests in a meaningful and inclusive way that makes it magical and memorable for everyone.
Inclusive, as long as you don't say girls and boys.
This is the Orwellian reality, not the future that George warned us about.
Let's talk to somebody who's been there inside the belly of the beast.
He's an actor, and now he is a YouTube phenomena.
He is the man behind the Mr. Reagan channel, a good friend of the show.
Chris Coles, welcome back to America First.
Good to see you, sir.
Nice to be on.
So I'm just going to read the words back to you.
Our associates are having their creativity opened up by banning certain words.
What do you have to say as a creator, as a thespian?
You know, I'll tell you what.
The First Amendment is sacrosanct.
And we've got this kind of a bizarre situation going on right now where you've heard this term that don't say gay.
Yes.
Right?
You've heard of this term, don't say gay.
So the left is sitting there screaming and yelling about the censorship of a word that they think that they should be able to say.
Despite the fact that nobody's banning the word gay.
That's the really weird thing about that one, right?
No, the law concerning that in Florida is about saying you cannot talk about gender or gender transposition and any radical sex therapy with six-year-olds, Chris.
That's what the bill is about.
Absolutely right.
I think it's from age kindergarten to third grade, which is about age seven or eight.
Eight, nine?
Yeah, okay.
And I don't know anybody who, given the accurate description of the bill, would think that it's a bad idea.
But they've got this BS campaign saying that we're telling teachers, we're telling people they're not allowed to say the word gay.
And you got people like Ron Perlman coming out with these messages on Twitter talking about how You know, this is disgusting and Ron DeSantis is a horrible person and all this kind of stuff.
It's not quite what he said.
I don't know who gave you a copy of my cut sheet, who has leaked it to you.
But here we have the audio of actor Ron Perlman trying to be tough.
Cut 11.
Good morning, Governor DeSantis.
Ron here.
Don't say gay.
Don't f***ing say, you f***er.
Nazi pig?
You piece of s***!
So, not talking about transgender surgery with a seven-year-old is now the definition of being a Nazi, sorry, an effing Nazi pig, Chris.
Yeah, I mean, it always cracks me up when these actors think that they are as tough as the characters they play in movies, you know what I mean?
It's like, come on, get over yourself, man, you're an actor.
But okay, so he's got his opinion, he's passionate.
I like the passion, Ron.
I like the passion.
Now take that to YouTube, take that to Twitter, because they're the ones that are really censoring us.
And it's really bizarre.
The left is trying to censor us like crazy.
You can't say boy, you can't say girl, you can't call William Thomas, who's changed his name to Leah and is beating all the other swimmers.
You can't call him a dude, otherwise you're banned off of Twitter.
I mean, they want to censor the crap out of us, and yet they get upset about not being able to say the word gay, which nobody ever argued that.
It's like trickle-down economics, right?
It's like this political weapon as opposed to an actual philosophy.
You know, nobody's saying that you can't say gay, but that's what they're using to rally the troops.
And then suddenly they have a problem, you know, they have this free speech problem where they need, everybody needs to be able to say what they want.
So, you know, the left is like this.
They just, they don't really care about principles.
You've been there.
Now you have this superb channel.
You've worked in Hollywood.
Is this a sea change or is this a marker point where Disney, remember what Walt Disney did, he created an empire for wholesome family entertainment for the whole family.
When we find out today, we're going to play some later clips about the secret gay agenda that Disney admits to in their meetings.
Is this, does something change now?
Because I, you know, I used to like Disney, but that's it.
I said today on Twitter, that's it.
They're done.
Boycotted.
Is anything going to change after these videos come out?
Because you, you've known this for years, but now, now everybody who's breathing is going to know Chris.
Oh, it's so sad.
It's so sad.
I am, You know, hands down the biggest fan of Walt Disney himself, the man, and his original vision and the stuff that he was doing with Disney when he was alive.
I mean, that, you know, the man had a beautiful vision to just bring joy to children and people all over the country with his films and his theme parks and everything like that.
I mean, what, you know, what a genius.
What a brilliant guy.
And what a good man.
And they've really just perverted and distorted everything.
And this is, you know, the left does this.
They like to do this.
And I'll tell you what, I know of of the mother of a major film director here in Hollywood.
A mother of one of the bigger film directors here in Hollywood, and her husband, who's one of the biggest film directors here in Hollywood.
And she's upset, and she's talking to me, and she's saying, look, this is many years back.
This is maybe ten years ago.
And she's saying, look, Chris, my daughter and her husband are forcing their son to wear a dress For Halloween.
They're dressing him up as a princess for Halloween and they're demanding that he go out trick-or-treating as a princess and he's crying and he doesn't want to do it and I don't know what to do.
And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, what is going on here?
They're, you know, man, they're not just, you know, when this Disney executive sits there and says, I have a transgender child and I have a pansexual child.
No, you don't.
You have a child that you have indoctrinated.
Bingo!
That is child, that's child abuse.
You've done it to your kids.
That's, you know, no, no child Tell you would even come up with the phrase pansexual that is you abusing them indoctrinating them he's spot-on he's gonna stay with us for one more segment following him on Twitter mr. Reagan USA it is the mr. Reagan channel on YouTube if you haven't done so already be sure To join us for our Stand With Israel tour later this year.
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Where's the cat?
- Where's the meowing cat?
You know, it's funny.
I meant to put him in the bathroom and I forgot again.
And I also forgot to put my lights on, which is why I was like late.
I was like, oh, shoot, I got to turn these lights on like last minute.
But yeah, no, the cat's been OK.
He's not meowing.
I don't know why.
I assumed you were going to talk about Will Smith slapped her across the world.
I'm kind of tied to that, but I think since you are who you are, we're going to have to get your explanation.
Oh, I am so tired of that.
But yeah, we can go over it.
All right.
Can you play the other, the Disney president Cut 9?
I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually.
One transgender child.
Um, and one pansexual child, um, and, and also as a leader.
Um, and that was the thing that really got me because I have heard so much from so many of my colleagues over the course of the last couple of weeks, um, in open forums and through emails and phone conversations.
And, um, I feel a responsibility to speak, um, not just for myself, but for them, um, to all of us.
We, we had a, we had an open forum last week at 20th where, Again, the home of really incredible, groundbreaking LGBTQIA stories over the years, where one of our execs stood up and said, you know, we only have a handful of queer leads in our content.
And I went, what?
That can't be true.
And I realized, oh, It actually is true.
We have many, many, many LGBTQIA characters in our stories, and yet we don't have enough leads and narratives in which gay characters just get to be characters.
Okay, can you do me like a 20-second, just the beginning of it for 3A?
How much?
Like 20 seconds.
Just the beginning where she says pansexual.
For when?
Like 2A.
There should be zero queer characters.
What is the A?
Is that alpichus?
I thought it was asexual.
Yeah, that's the alopecias.
They add something every time.
What is the A?
I think it's asexual.
What is the A?
Come on, you're in Los Angeles.
What's the A, Chris?
Yeah, maybe it is asexual.
I think it's asexual.
I had all of these pulled up at one point in time.
LGBTQIA, right?
Is that what she said?
I'm asexual, but not on purpose.
If it's not voluntary, it doesn't count.
Never forget the plus at the end.
I love it.
I hope, you know, that there'll be like three of them left in the year 3000.
Who's the guy that wrote Dilbert?
Scott Adams.
Scott Adams, thank you.
Scott, I could not... We're getting close to a new album.
Is that the identity of Adams?
Scott Adams is defending this woman by saying that if you add up all the There's less than 2% of America that are gay!
What are we talking about?
Get off track, please!
I mean, he lost it when he did everybody should be vaccinated.
That's when the great Scott Adams went off the plantation.
There's less than 2% of America that are gay.
What are we talking about?
Get off crack, please, Scott Adams.
I mean he lost it when he did everybody should be vaccinated.
That's when the great Scott Adams went off the plantation.
I mean just off the reservation.
He says it's 6%.
I made the point that, look, even if there is 6% of the country that's LGBTQ, that's not kids.
There's not 6% of children.
They don't need to see this.
We've got asexual, ally, and agender on this list.
I'll let you play with that however you'd like.
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Okay, I'm probably not gonna play the whole thing, but for those who haven't heard it, this is what we're talking about.
This is the President I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually.
This is what she talks about with her employees at Walk Disney's Corporation.
Cut nine.
I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually, one transgender child and one pansexual child and also as a leader.
Um, and that was the thing that really got me because I have heard so much from so many of my colleagues over the course of the last couple of weeks, um, in open forums and through emails and phone conversations and.
Keep going, keep going.
She gets the acronym.
Um, I feel a responsibility to speak, um, not just for myself, but for them, um, to all of us.
We, we had a, we had an open forum last week at 20th where, um, again, the home of, of really incredible groundbreaking LGBTQIA stories.
LGBTQIA.
Chris, this is your test.
What do those all stand for?
Oh, gosh.
Well, uh, you know, Elle, Is for lesbian.
That means somebody who hates men who had a boyfriend they didn't like at some point in college.
LG.
G is for gay.
But hang on, hang on.
If you're gay, aren't lesbians gay?
I'm confused.
No, no, no.
Gays are men who like musical theatre.
Everybody knows that.
Bisexuals are like the opposite of vegans, right?
They'll eat anything.
T is trans.
Who are into transport?
Like Pete Buttigieg?
They like buses and trains?
Is that what we're talking about?
That's what it is.
That's for people who like transportation secretaries.
Transportation secretaries only.
Yeah, well A is the problem, right?
A is the one that everybody's confused about.
Hang on, what's I?
You missed out I. I is intersex.
Is that like the international if you're gay and international?
Like you've got two citizenships?
Maybe.
Yes, you're an international gay person.
Okay.
Help me out with A, Mr. Hollywood.
I believe that A has to be asexual, which is what I am right now.
Hang on, hang on.
We got an update.
John, you've looked it up.
What is it?
There's asexual?
Yes.
There is.
Which means what?
That you're a fruit fly?
Yeah.
And you reproduce without sex?
Exactly.
Right?
Okay.
It means your wife is mad at you.
What else does it mean?
There is agender, which I don't... Agender?
As opposed to two genders?
Okay, good.
It means you're a Ken doll.
Yes!
G.I.
Joe!
Go ahead.
And then ally.
You're an ally.
Like France to Germany?
Exactly.
Bingo.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh, that's far too much fun for live radio.
That was on the edge.
Okay, Chris, that's enough.
Enough fun.
Tell us, what are you doing?
Everybody's got to see his.
Who is AOC video?
Everybody's got to see the parody of the Gillette woke advertisement.
Tell us, give us, we've got like a minute left.
Tell us, our millions of viewers, what are you working on, Chris?
Oh, well, I'm working on a few things.
I mean, I'm talking about the Stacey Abrams cameo in Star Trek.
Do you see that?
Oh, yes.
The president of the world!
They made Stacey Abrams the president of the world, which is... I mean, honestly, this is not, like, a story that needs to be covered, but I just think it's so funny how the left is obsessed with Stacey Abrams, and she's, like, the least impressive person on earth.
It's like they're obsessed.
They love losers.
She couldn't win a real election, so in a fantasy land, we'll make her president of the world.
That's just classic.
Okay, give us one more thing you're doing, and then we'll let you go off to go edit your videos and find your cat.
What else are you doing?
Well, I'll tell you what, I mean, I have, I think we talked about this on the show before, but I have another channel called Mr. Pagan.
I haven't been posting on it in a while, but it's where I put my funny stuff.
I mean, the LGBT stuff, I have a video on that, and it's, you know, I'll tell you what, it's very difficult now to post anything on YouTube without getting Take it off.
All right, so here's the test for you.
As your creative muse, I think you should take a clip of us defining LGBTIAQLMNOP and put it on the Mr. Pagan channel.
What do you think?
That might have to happen.
God bless you, Chris.
We've got to get him back for a longer chat.
That was too short.
Oh, and I've got to do the German shot putters.
I still haven't done that video.
Yes, I see all that amazing material.
The East German shot.
My name is Claire and I'm a female shot putter.
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I've written a lot of stand-up material thinking maybe I would use it one day, but I never actually tried.
That was epic!
That was sweet.
I was falling out of my chair.
Yeah?
He actually was, I can confirm.
Eric was snorting behind me into my ears.
He's falling off his chair.
Geoff was laughing hard.
Geoff made a slightly, slightly smile, which is a huge, huge... No, I enjoyed it.
He said he enjoyed it!
Three years I've been working with him, that's the first time he said, I enjoyed your show and it wasn't because of me.
That was funny.
That I enjoyed that.
Good job Chris.
I'm Mr. Peg and I had an LGBTQ thing and I did the whole thing.
I found the longest one I could find.
And then I came up with ideas.
So I stole a little bit from that.
Some of that material was stolen from that video that I'd written.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Oh, man.
Superb.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
That was a lot of fun.
All right, buddy.
We should do one of those simulcast things sometime.
For sure.
Clip that.
Clip that.
We'll see if people like it.
Yeah, we will.
Thanks, buddy.
All right.
Chat soon, man.
Bye.
All right.
You know what we should do for merch, too?
We should do, uh, quote-unquote, 81 billion.
81 million.
81 million.
We should do 81 million, and we should do something like, um, LGBTQ thing, something.
All right, Trish can do Skype.
She can do Skype?
You can do a picture of Trump hugging the flag and Biden choking on the pizza.
Where did you get that from?
I just thought of it.
I thought that'd be funny.
All right, Jeff, did you hear that?
What?
Uh, t-shirt with...
Trish is calling.
Hello?
Dial her up now.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm gonna use the same one that we used to use before.
Dialing... Are you good to do Skype?
Alright, perfect.
We're dialing you right now.
Dialing now.
Thanks.
Oh, wait.
Hang on.
It's searching.
It's not showing up.
Tell her she needs to call us.
It's doing... This... That's right.
This was the problem.
Okay, and then we'll do Trish intro here.
-Sale on what media studio? -Trump embracing the flag and Joe choking on the pizza.
Isn't that good?
Yeah, we should definitely do that.
We've got to find a really good screenshot of him.
Alright, 15 seconds.
We've got food coming in here.
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Trish, welcome back to America First.
Good to see you, Sam.
Trish, great to see you too.
Just a couple of stories that we can kind of bounce off.
Reality and then insanity.
We've got the report from Bloomberg.
A group of economists have said that you can expect, Americans should expect to have to increase or find for their budget an extra $5,200 This year for inflation purposes alone.
That's the reality that you can comment on.
And then this from Washington State.
Governor Jay Inslee has just signed a bill that will ban all fossil fuel field vehicles by 2030 in the state.
So it's going to be just Teslas and Priuses in the state of Washington.
Your reaction?
Bad timing on that one.
Look, I mean, we need all the help we can get because we are facing such higher oil prices, which means higher prices at the gas pumps, which, by the way, means higher prices for everything, right?
From food, because it's got to get from point A to point B, not to mention we've now lost the bread basket that is Ukraine, right?
So a lot of things are going to be going up in price.
I think that Bloomberg is right when they point to, you know, economists saying, A $5,000 increase.
I think that's exactly what we're going to be looking at, possibly even more.
We'll see, you know, once inflation starts, sometimes these things kind of get rolling, Seb, and you have a supply chain crisis that won't end, combined with money printing like you've never seen, combined with really, really bad policy choices.
I mean, I'm frustrated, and I may have said this to you last week, because it seems as though our intelligence Folks, they knew this was coming, right?
They knew that Putin, for years they've known he was at risk of doing something quite like this.
So why weren't we doing a better job at making sure that we had locked up our own energy sources right here in the United States of America, knowing that we would be exposed to this vulnerability?
And then you get people that clearly, clearly don't have all the wires connecting in the head.
They're out there in Washington saying, okay, we're going to ban Vehicles other than EVs?
It's actually mind-boggling and it's frustrating because I know how hard this is going to hurt the American consumer and the middle-class American is most at risk right now.
It's going to be challenging.
So I did a monologue on the incompetence when it comes to national security issues that we've seen in the last few days and weeks from the Pentagon, from the White House, from the State Department, things having to be, you know, taken back within minutes of the President saying them, then the F-16 deal and everything else.
For me it's very clear that they're amateurs, they're incompetent, there's nobody who knows anything about national security in any of those buildings.
When it comes to economics, I think it's different.
I think it's not incompetence.
I think there's some of that.
But if you listen to Secretary Granholm on how every street will have electric vehicles on it, when you listen to the President of the United States saying, what do you mean?
What do you mean printing money causes inflation?
There's an ideological component.
These people aren't just ignorant.
They're also hostages to this new fiscal economic voodoo.
What do you think?
I think they're going to get voted out of office really fast.
I think that this has pushed everybody over the edge.
People are willing to put up with a lot, but when you start sacrificing their livelihoods, their futures, because they've got to pay $5,000 that they don't have, More for food and energy.
They're not going to take it.
They're not going to put up with it.
All of these people will be voted out of office come 2022 and 2024.
That's the future of this.
They can sit there, Seb, all they want and think about their pipe dreams for green energy.
And you've heard me say I got nothing against green energy, but I'm a realist.
Well, the best cheapest energy on the coast of Maine by June, and the cheapest cleanest form of energy is nuclear trees.
That's just a scientific fact.
Yes, yes.
So we should be looking at that.
Look, to me, it's all hands on deck.
And we can do everything that we can to ensure that the American consumer is going to be able to survive this without taking a huge hit.
And so they ought to be thinking a heck of a lot more creatively, they got to get their heads out of there, you know, what's and actually focus Yeah.
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Well, he is.
Why do these people have no lasting power?
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Mr. Gorka.
Yes.
Thank you for everything you do, sir.
I'd just like to run this by you.
Don't hit me too hard, please.
I think this administration deserves a lot of credit.
They're working for China in my book, and I don't have any intel or anything like that.
But look at the dollar.
They're trying to destroy you.
What is China doing?
Trying to get their coin to become God, I'm telling you.
I mean, look around.
Well, I know one person who's working for China, and that's Hunter Biden.
And we have the emails where it says, the big guy gets 10%, Joe.
God, I'm telling you.
I mean, look at Ron.
The geopolitical, he changes so efficiently.
Yeah, you know, there's actually something really deep to this.
You're right.
The nation that's profited the most, soon it'll be Iran as well.
But right now it's China.
Joe, if it comes out we have proof of that, then this guy has to be up on charges.
He has to be impeached and then maybe up on treason charges.
God bless you, Joe.
I've got one more call I've got to squeeze in.
Stay on the line.
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Welcome to America First.
Hey, Sebastian.
Would it be possible And this is above my pay grade, so this is an inquiry.
To have something like the Israeli Iron Dome anti-missile defense over the United States, it wouldn't even have to be complete, just enough to knock down incoming ordnance, including hypersonic.
Is something like that on the drawing boards or available?
Well, there was, and it was called Star Wars, remember?
The trouble is, having a land-based one, because our nation is the size of a continent, you'd have to have batteries at every key site.
And with large metropolises, like Los Angeles, you'd have to have a battery at every 7-Eleven.
But hey, Yeah, I'm sure the military-industrial complex would love it.
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I was gonna suggest that, yeah.
- Okay, and then can you ask Casio, once it's up, to just do a little tweet everywhere? - I was gonna suggest that, yeah.
- Okay, and then can you ask Casio, once it's up, to just do a little tweet everywhere?
- Everywhere, just the embedded video with that.
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Yep.
And then, let's do... Oh, I need you to tell me, because it says only the bold parts are mandatory.
And I can't see what's bold.
Alright, let me... Can you just tell me off your screen?
Yeah, yep.
Let me go find that.
Yeah, okay.
I'm trying to pull some pictures.
I think there's a good one of Biden here.
I'm throwing together a quick photo.
There's one where he looks like he's kind of... Yeah, this one, I think.
I don't know if you can see it from here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think there's one where he grabs a cup of water.
Let's pull that up real quick, just in case they're looking, because we can hear them.
I'm gonna... So did you see that, Geoff?
Yeah.
It's good.
It is.
So at some point in the second hour you want to use that Gates video?
Got to!
It's so epic.
Oh, that's right, we have two cuts of it.
Oh, download... Three cuts of it.
Oh my god.
Eric, I got a new cut up there.
I did a shorter thing of the... Of the woman, right?
Disney, yeah.
Great.
Oh, very top here.
What were the other cuts for Cassio?
We never get into that.
Um, the gates thing.
Which one?
Um...
Oops.
Cut one.
And cut three.
Okay.
I'll call this one cut twelve, the shorter version.
Okay.
Um, yeah, yeah, there's three, I didn't realize there's three whole cuts of just gates.
They're all like over a minute long.
I think, uh, what they mean by the bolt is just the highlighted portion at the bottom.
I don't have highlights.
It's black and white.
It's just, um... What is it?
Like, go to EdenPureDeals.com.
That part.
It's just the last paragraph.
It's the last three lines?
Yep.
All three of them have, yeah.
Just the last three lines.
Hi, guys.
Hey, hey!
Hello, Jen.
Hello!
How we doing?
I'm good.
How about you guys?
What's going on?
Have you sorted out that conspiracy theorist grant?
Yeah, it's all staged.
What is the upside of making that?
Yeah, I mean, come on.
Because Will Smith really looked like he was acting.
I know.
Really.
Especially when he yelled, I mean, come on.
That was the part that really looked real, was the... Screaming at him from the seat.
The screaming.
Because he did, like, smile as he walked away, which was sort of... That was a little strange, yeah.
Well, no, but I'm sure he was satisfied with himself.
Right?
I guess so.
I guess so.
And the funny thing is the way he walked back was so... I know, it was a strut.
But it was so out of a movie.
Hey, I'm the fresh Prince of Bel-Air, you know?
And he kind of grabbed his vest and like tugged it down a little bit.
It was pretty cool.
Thank you, Mike.
So, do you want me to call you?
Here we go.
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We're standing by, waiting for your YouTube call.
Let's just be excited that the Academy Awards were kind of interesting only because of that.
Aiding Hollywood so much and being so skeptical of it.
I can get people believing anything Hollywood does at stage.
I understand it.
I don't think that was staged.
Let's just be excited that the Academy Awards were kind of interesting.
Only because of that.
What were the viewing figures?
I think it was up, yeah.
But probably only in the last half hour.
Not much.
555,000 were added after that.
Think about it, everybody saw it.
I don't know one person that saw it live.
Everyone saw it on Twitter or something.
On Twitter, I know.
Although I did have it on, but they kind of froze it out when it was live.
That's why you went, wait a second, what just happened?
Cut out the audio, yeah, yeah.
They just let it be dead air for a while.
Seriously, they should get Chris Rock to host the next Oscars, and then he just walks out on stage at the very beginning in a neck brace.
I heard his lip was split.
That was what one of the gossip sites said that he had some swelling in a lip that was bleeding.
Heard another one reporting on like what he allegedly said backstage like right after he made a joke saying like you know something like that's the first time that's the only way you get hit by Muhammad Ali and it doesn't leave a scratch.
Well, he's got that big tour coming up.
That's right.
He's in Boston tonight.
Tickets are skyrocketing.
The price is tenfold.
Yeah, by seven times or something.
I guess their feud lasted for a while, though.
I guess he used to date Jada, and they didn't end well.
What?
Back in the 90s, somebody said that they used to date.
Is Chris Rock that old?
No, I thought you meant six months ago.
He's 57.
What?
I know.
He looks like 37.
No, I know.
He's 57.
Wow.
He looks good.
So they dated, and then I guess he made her kind of the butt of the jokes.
And then in 2016 for the Oscars, he made a comment about how Jada Smith boycotting the Oscars is like me boycotting a Supermodels.
I wasn't invited anyway, basically.
Yeah.
Well, I was reading also, John Nolte did a pretty decent analysis on Breitbart.
Apparently, Jada also was in a relationship with Tupac back in the day.
Oh yeah, she was.
And Will Smith wrote in his biography that he was literally jealous of Tupac in so many ways.
One minute.
My only question to that is, who cares?
That explains the memes though I was seeing of, like, Jada, of, like, captioning memes saying, like, you know, lecturing Will saying, come on, Will, Tupac would have shot him.
Yeah, right?
She certainly doesn't let grass grow, does she?
Yeah.
She's in a hurry.
Okay.
Thirty-five seconds.
Doing pod here.
Yep.
Alright.
And you wanted to use a cut here?
Twenty-second cut?
Uh, the Disney one, there's a shorter version of the long one.
Who had a whistleblower on the show about Disney today?
I got some Jims for you.
We had two, well, we actually ended up with three anonymous calls.
Not going to give us anything.
Ten seconds.
Stand by.
Right.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I don't want to talk about it, but she's out there.
She's on the West Coast.
And I need to know if she has similar feelings to Amy Schumer.
Are you there, Jennifer Horn?
I am.
Hi.
Hey, alright, she's the host of The Morning Answer on AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
And I need to know, were you triggered?
Were you traumatized?
Because Amy Schumer says she's still waiting for that sickening feeling to go away.
You know what?
Amy Schumer has no power over me, other than thinking that her dress was kind of terrible looking at the Academy Awards.
So you watched it?
Ha!
Oh, I watched the beginning.
Absolutely.
And you know what?
I haven't watched the Academy Awards in probably four or five years now.
I used to love watching award shows.
And just for the glamour and the fashion, it was always a lot of fun to watch.
And then Hollywood just took it too far, and it was no longer fun for me.
But for some reason, I was drawn into watching the opening of the Oscars.
And you know what?
Look, I'm not a snowflake.
They made some political jokes.
I'm not going to let them get me down.
Some of their jokes were funny.
Move on.
It's how you... But she was traumatized by the Will Smith-Chris Rock incident, which, as our engineer, John, points out, is very problematic for the left because You can't work out who the white guy is and who the oppressor is.
It's like, where's the social justice element here?
Now this is where I have to fact check you.
You know, no fake news here.
We've worked out who Trump is.
According to Howard Stern and according to CNN, a pundit over at CNN, both of them said the reason Will Smith got away with hitting Chris Rock is because of the Trump factor.
Because Trump has destroyed our country psychologically.
So see, you can always bring it back to conservatives are evil for the left.
Because we know Smith and Rock are clearly Trump supporters.
Clearly.
A hundred percent.
Although my co-host, Grant Stinchfield, thinks that Will Smith could be a Republican.
I'm not ready to claim him.
Just because he played a fighter pilot, I don't think that makes you a Republican.
Okay, Jennifer Horne, we're talking about the entertainment industry.
I gotta play just this little short version of the cut we played earlier today.
This is the CEO of the Disney Corporation.
I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually.
One transgender child and one pansexual child, and also as a leader.
One of our execs stood up and said, you know, we only have a handful of queer leads in our content.
And I went, what?
Um, she doesn't have a pansexual child.
She is a brainwashing lunatic.
This is a sad day for us.
I think, as you may have seen me tweet out earlier today, I think it's time to boycott Disney despite how I love what Walt Disney built.
Jennifer, where do you stand on this?
They're ruining it.
The woke culture has taken over Disney.
And you know, I don't even think that Disney was prepared to get into this fight until some employees and some of the culture started to build up.
You didn't hear a word from Disney about the Don't Say Gay, and I'll use air quotes here, bill, the parental rights bill that was signed by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
And now all of a sudden, they have like a plan of attack, like action, to jump into gear in the last three weeks and come up with all of this.
I don't know.
I don't look up what pansexual was today.
But it used to be that Disney was about making great movies.
It didn't have to be about who was the lead.
For the whole family.
Exactly.
For the whole family to enjoy.
And it wasn't about checking boxes.
It was about providing good, clean entertainment.
All right, so you have the morning show.
You're the hardest-working gal in radio and you got some very interesting callers from Disney.
Can you share with our listeners here on America First?
I'd love to.
I told you I had some hot juice for you, some tea to spill today.
And so we did exactly what you did.
We played that clip today.
We also played the diversity and equity manager.
Who spoke about how they no longer say ladies and gentlemen or boys and girls, that it's just dreamers of all ages.
And we said, well, culture has to be ruining Disneyland.
Well, we happen to be the station that feeds Disneyland, LA, Orange County.
And so we started getting anonymous calls.
Literally people, and I never see this on our call board, it said anonymous from Los Angeles, anonymous from Anna.
Wow.
The whistle was being blown, Seb.
So the first call said that he couldn't tell us where he worked, but he worked in the park, in the resort, and somewhere in the culinary world.
Now, it sounds funny, but Disney actually does have a great culinary world in L.A.
The Napa Rose of the Grand Californian is fantastic.
I believe it.
Carthage Circle, they actually have really great stuff.
He said, That as much as Disney embraces diversity, that what's really happening behind the scenes is that he used to be able to speak to the media to represent the company or the area of the business that he works in.
And he said now, because he's white, they will no longer call on him.
And they told him as much, that he is not the face of the company that they want to present anymore.
And so he's been cast aside because he's white.
I think that's the definition of racism.
I think that's right.
When you're disqualifying someone, taking them out of a job that they used to do because of their skin color, that sounds like racism to me.
So that caller, we were kind of stunned.
We talked through it.
Next caller gets on and said, I heard your previous caller and I want you to know that I was discriminated against by Disney.
I work for the company as well.
It sounded to me like he might have worked for the studio side, not for the park side, but he said that it doesn't matter what color you are, if you are of a certain age, Disneyland wants to cast you aside.
Now, I know for a fact, working as I did in the cable industry, cable television before, well, concurrently, because I like to keep jobs, but concurrently with my radio career, Seb, cable television, like there's a notorious reputation that Disney has that they work the heck out of you you get the employees in because of the glamour of the disney name people want to work for you but they work their employers that's what i've heard that's their employees that is right oh their employees excuse me
that's what's that's what's followed them around for years and years and years and so when this guy called in and he said that they didn't like old people at disney and he was kind of offended that they've gone down this path because he said wait a second you discriminate every single day and so of course how hypocritical we know disney already is ron de santis called him out this week by saying look if we were talking about the uigur muslims you'd be zipping it you'd be quiet Because Disney is on the line to China.
They won't talk about the death camps that were removed from behind the scenes of the Mulan movie because they don't want to talk about genocide.
But they're happy to get into these woke issues even when they're discriminating against people who have been with their company for years and years because of age and because of their whiteness.
And what they love to do, this is maybe news to some, is that all these artificially inserted gay scenes where a character comes out as gay in a movie, what does Disney do?
They snip it out for the Chinese market.
So they're happy to bang us over the head with their gay, transgender, LGBTIA, LMNOP indoctrination, but because it's all about the money!
They remove it before it goes to the Chinese audiences.
But isn't that a powerful lesson for us here?
If it's all about the money, then conservatives, we have a choice to make.
And look, I love going to Disneyland.
I love the Disney products from my youth.
But it's not about necessarily diversity.
It's about beating our kids over the head with sexuality when they're kindergartners.
So what is Jennifer Horne's decision?
I think that's it.
I think you have to boycott.
I don't know.
I mean, I do...
Look, I am not a boycotter, but I am a capitalist.
And so I like to spend my money where I know it is going to the right places, where it's going to companies that are patriotic and that support good conservative values.
And I have to say, at this point, Disney does not do that.
I'm ready today to just cancel my Disney Plus subscription.
I don't need it anymore.
I won't be going back to Disneyland, at least for a while, until they change their ways.
Look, if it's good enough for China to do this and that has an impact on Disney's behavior, let's make it happen here at home.
So, you know how Zuckerberg and Rasputin told us, well, if you don't like social media censorship, go build your own!
And President Trump did.
Guys, if you're not on truth social, why not?
I think we need, forget Disney, I think we need Magga World.
Don't you think Elon Musk, right now, should build Magga World?
Yes, I think he would be the perfect one because he's got the budget, he's got the pocketbook to do it.
And he's increasingly political.
His tweets, him and Jordan Peterson in the last month or two, whoa, have they been red-pilled or what, Jennifer?
I so love watching this though because it's just about sanity and common sense.
It's just about freedom to let parents parent.
It's about having a company that caters to children and families.
Just worry about doing that and leave all of this other stuff behind.
That doesn't make you a hateful person to ask you not to teach your kids about their sexuality.
My goodness!
It's only common sense and so can conservatives do a better product?
I'm liking our odds.
Day by day, we are bringing more and more people to our movement, so why not?
Let's get Elon Musk to build the Musk Mouse instead of Mickey Mouse.
I like that!
Okay, she already copyrighted it.
It's the Musk Mouse.
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Somebody out there.
Guys, on Rumble, if you're like one of those adept social media kinds, get a photograph of Musk and put the ears on from Mickey.
Yes.
Yes!
And tag us!
We'll share it.
I love it.
Although you can't tag me on Instagram.
I know!
I tried when I was putting out the United stuff.
That stings.
There's too much fake news over there.
Oh my gosh.
You know, us conservatives, we just peddle in all that fake news that turns out to be true six months later.
This is crazy.
Have you seen this?
Chris Rufo just posted this.
The biggest story in America on Twitter now is boycott Disney with 324,000 tweets.
No kidding.
Oh my gosh.
324,000.
These people are going to shut up quick.
Do you know Randy?
Can you send it to Randy?
What's the new CEO?
Not this woman, the president, but the CEO of Disney.
It's not Bob Iger anymore.
Who is it?
Some other guy.
Let me check.
So Daniel, our producer, who's a Disney geek, says that everybody loved Bob Iger.
Nobody loves this guy.
And so they're trying to cause him trouble.
Hmm.
I don't know.
I think these people are whack jobs.
Uh, Bob Chapek?
Chapek.
There you go.
That Twitter story, that trend, by the way, you know, that only lasts until Twitter gets in and messes with it and then Trump is a Nazi with 2000 tweets, you know, like trending at number one.
Cause that's, but yeah, you're right.
That's those moments where Twitter doesn't interfere.
You see what the real trends are.
How about Hunter Biden's hundred thousand dollar check?
Oh boy.
That's a good one.
All right.
I've retweeted the... or I've tweeted out the musk mouse.
Superb.
I'm sort of sad about Bruce Willis.
What?
What's the news about Bruce?
What do you do?
He's retired.
Oh.
He's got, um... Aplasia?
What is Aplasia?
It means you can no longer... Yeah, you can't... It's like brain damage.
You can't speak.
You can't understand speech.
What?
Oh!
Well, he was making, I swear, you go onto one of these.
He can play Biden.
He can play Biden in a biopic.
Who said that?
Jeff said that.
Which member of my team said that?
Nice, Jeff.
Oh, I said it.
Yeah, I said it.
Look how loud, he's just, that's the kind of joke that amuses you, right?
I like Bruce Willis.
I think you should tweet that out, though.
Has he made any films before you were born?
No, but he's like from 10 minutes from where I grew up.
Die hard.
So he gets that humor, he would appreciate it.
He is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pensacola, New Jersey, a really small town.
He's from New Jersey?
Yeah, South Jersey.
Did not know that.
And he's only 67.
Have you seen how many movies he's made in the last 20 years?
Bruce Willis?
He makes a movie a month.
I thought that was Nichols Cage.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He has made, you know, I don't know what his debts are or what it's like.
He has made a crappy diehard knockoff, science fiction knockoff every month for about 10 years.
Will you come in with cut 10, please?
Come in with cut 10.
So many people have said, or not so many, but my friend had just told me that the reasons he did so many action movies is that he doesn't do well with dialogue because of this condition.
He was having trouble and suffering.
Interesting.
And so they can feed him through his ear the lines and he could just repeat it.
Got it.
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We're going to talk California news with Jennifer Horn, but I think I've got a plan.
I think I've got an idea.
We just need to go back and watch the old Disney stuff, right?
Don't buy anything from Disney.
Go to eBay, buy a used DVD, and just celebrate the original mission.
All the good stuff.
You know, Walt Disney wasn't his head in a freezer.
His head is probably flipping over at what has become of his company.
It's amazing to me that they don't even care or seem to care about the legacy that put families first and brought that was really wasn't that really the point of Disneyland to bring families together to celebrate that family structure?
Wholesome content for the whole family.
You can sit down, watch bread.
What is it?
Broomsticks and bed knobs and broomsticks.
You can watch Mary Poppins and everybody can watch it.
You know what?
It's so symptomatic of where the left in this country has gone though.
They want to destroy the family.
They want to destroy the nuclear family.
They tell you at every turn.
They tell you that it's about community rearing now and not about the mom and the dad and the traditional family structure, which we know is the most At least it's the most productive way to raise a family.
I mean, I know people don't like to hear that.
That shouldn't even be controversial.
It just is.
It sets you up for better success.
Not always perfect, but it is the most perfect way to bring up kids.
And now we've got, you know, you run down the street and you've got people raising each other and Disney is now blowing that up and going along for the ride of just getting rid of what was and what is right.
Well, this is a free market economy and we're just not going to buy their products.
Follow this lady at Jennifer Horn on Twitter.
Talk to us about some of the things happening in California.
Is it true the plans, the dreams of Ambassador Garcetti are dead?
It seems to be.
Now, we were hearing that from Republicans in the Senate.
Now we are hearing it from Democrats in the Senate who say that it's either dead or dying on the vine.
How come this uber-Democrat crazy mayor, why is he no longer going to be ambassador to India for Joe Biden?
Well, his friend, one of his very closest friends, his aide and his political confidant for the last 25 years is a man named Rick Jacobs.
Rick Jacobs was accused of sexually harassing several men in his presence, including an LAPD officer who said, enough of this, and sued the mayor's office, sued the city of Los Angeles for the harassment.
The claims are that he said inappropriate things, that he touched people, unwanted touching, and that he'd even forced kisses on people around him, other men around him.
And so Eric Garcetti's not being held accountable for that, but apparently he knew what was going on and decided to forget that during his confirmation hearing.
During his hearing, when he was questioned by Republicans, he said he didn't know that that was happening in his office.
And so because of it, now Chuck Grassley was the first to say, wait a second, we think we have evidence that a whistleblower in your office says you lied.
Joni Ernst was the second to say we're putting a stop on this.
So now two Republicans have held up his confirmation until they can review what Garcetti's office says it's a 130-page report that will get him off the hook, that'll prove that he was telling the truth.
The problem, Seb, and I tweeted this out last week, I had to remind myself that there was a picture that went around of Eric Garcetti standing right next to Rick Jacobs, who was putting his hand over the groin area of someone standing next to him in the picture.
Eric Garcetti was right there.
Now, you know, Al Franken not in the Senate anymore for less than what's being thrown at Rick Jacobs.
So, why is it always perverted?
I mean, why is it always just so perverted?
Does he escape?
Does writing a report somehow mean that he's exonerated?
I don't know.
I mean, according to reports, his confirmation will come up at the end of April or early May.
I guess that's when the final say will happen on Garcetti, and they say that that may not be enough time to get Republicans to support his appointment and that that may be why they might try to find a replacement.
So we'll see over the next month whether they can scrounge up the votes.
That'll be up to Chuck Schumer and Biden's administration to try to figure it out.
He's not going to be mayor.
Look, I would be running to get him out of town, but his term is up, so he can't plague L.A.
anymore, so I guess it doesn't matter where he goes next.
Tell us about what's going on in Sacramento.
Is it true that after two years of COVID, they still don't want to teach?
Yeah, they are back out of school.
There was a strike.
The Sacramento public school system.
And again, this is all stemming back to COVID, COVID safety protocols, and the teachers union being way too powerful in the state of California.
They own everybody, including the governor, and so they know they can flex their muscles because they can get away with it.
All right, last thing I want you to react to.
This is, you mentioned Ron DeSantis, the Disney reaction.
This is a member of the Hollywood Glitterati.
This is Ron Perlman with a message for the governor.
Good morning, Governor DeSantis.
Ron here.
Don't say gay.
Don't f***ing say, you f***ing Nazi pig.
You piece of s***.
Is he deranged, or is he just trying to get the next tough guy lead?
Super charming, right?
I mean, that's a guy that we should have to our next dinner party, I think.
Well, he played Hellboy, so... Which is a good movie!
Was a good movie.
He had his little nubbins, little red nubbins.
Look, it's very funny that in the name of kindness Yeah.
Tolerance.
She... She's the one you want at your dinner parties.
Follow her at Jennifer Hord.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
I'll say.
Tolerance.
Tolerant and kind and accepting.
Well, only if you're on their side of the aisle, because there is no room for an alternative opinion.
And what's the first thing that they do?
They go straight to that N word, straight to that Nazi word.
They don't like what you're saying.
She's the one you want at your dinner parties.
Follow her at Jennifer Hort.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
Music Fuck you!
Hey Jen, I just, I fell behind on California politics.
I just realized Falconer dropped out of the governor's race.
I didn't see that.
He dropped out.
What?
This is a pathetic governor's race.
I'm happy, I'm just surprised.
I'm happy too.
I guess it's going to be Anthony Tremino.
We just had Jason Dali on, who's an assemblyman.
Or excuse me, state senator now.
Brian Dali.
Brian, what did I call him?
Jason.
I always wanted to call him that.
Brian Dali.
Yeah, he was okay.
I would assume he'd probably be the frontrunner for the nomination just by name recognition at this point.
America First, what's your name?
There's another independent that's running that I'm gonna check out, but it's Newsom's.
Yeah, I mean, no one's gonna win.
It's just kind of, yeah, I get it.
So, I mean, the best chance that we have are some congressional races, and there are a few assembly seats that might be able to be picked up, but I don't see big hopes for the governor's office.
Right, of course.
Unless something dramatic happens.
If something dramatic happens, then maybe we're back in business.
All right, guys.
Thank you, Jen.
Thank you.
Have a good rest of the day.
You too.
Can you play me six and seven?
Six and seven.
Six and seven.
Oh, yeah.
They never take me on on that.
They just go with the big life.
They keep saying, the big life, the big life.
But they never want to sort of, hey, sit down and let's talk.
We'll go state by state.
Fact by fact.
Remember, I offered to debate anybody on the election.
You know, I didn't have one person.
And we'd get big, big ratings.
I offered to debate any Democrat politician on the election of 2020.
And they didn't because they can't defend.
Lynching is not a relic of the past.
Racial acts of terror still occur in our nation.
And when they do, we must all have the courage to name them and hold the perpetrators to account.
What is she talking about?
I love it.
I'm reminded of, you know, Elizabeth Warren.
I am not suicidal.
I'm reminded of when Elizabeth Warren in, like, the Rose Garden said, like, you know, uh, oh, you know, the most targeted group in America are black trans women.
And I'm just like, where are you making this?
Like, you know they're making this.
It's a very small target to hit.
Bullseye!
Got him.
Alright, Mac.
Title for Horn?
Um...
Well, America's done with Disney.
Got it.
Okay, do you want to come in with the Lindell audio here?
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Have I heard everything?
I have heard everything, right?
Uh, none of the Gates cuts.
Oh, I know those.
Okay.
Um, yeah.
We've played everything else up to this point.
Alright, I sent that over to Randy and I sent, uh, I believe, yes?
You sent what over to Randy?
Uh, that, that image that I made.
Oh, good, thank you.
And then I am about to tell everybody that your plans for the 8th and the 11th.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, 35 seconds.
Yeah, cause I gotta be in LA!
Sir.
Wanna use the new videos this segment, or save them for D?
Like, Gates, cause- I don't know!
Seriously, this is live radio.
It's already turned into a TV director.
Spontaneity, please.
This isn't television, this is radio.
I know it's not television.
Oh, he knows it's not television.
Alright, stand by 10 seconds.
Not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking.
But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
We are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that and then all of a sudden we make the news.
So it's more of a reputation risk.
Yeah, I wonder what the reputation of Heartland Financial is right now, since we've been using that audio every day here on America First.
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Why are the left so fragile?
trial.
I love it when they DM me on Twitter with insults and why they have to send me the tweet that so annoyed them.
Dude, you don't have to send me Foster Heirs.
You don't have to send me the tweet that I posted because I know what I post, okay?
And I simply posted this earlier today, a headline from the New York Post.
GOP Senator Susan Collins will vote to confirm nominee Jackson to the Supreme Court.
Okay?
Because she made a press statement.
And I just added to that headline, Senator Collins is on the side of the child abusers and pornographers.
Call her office and ask her why.
What's wrong with that?
It's a statement of fact.
And by the way, if you think it is wrong, fundamentally wrong, that a Republican, in name only, a Republican senator has said today that she will vote for a judge who consistently gave beneath the minimum sentence to child pornographers Then why don't you call up Senator Collins' office.
The number, write it down.
202-224-2523.
That's Senator Collins' Senate office.
202-224-2523.
Ask her why she's supporting a candidate who doesn't know what the word woman means, but knows enough to protect and be lenient with pedophiles and child pornographers.
Let's go to Klaus Burbank.
Welcome to America First, Klaus.
Dr. G, how is your afternoon going today?
Not bad.
I am going to be protesting right in front of Disney headquarters, the Walt Disney Company headquarters in Burbank.
I live in the media capital of the world with Walt Disney and Warner Brothers, Nickelodeon, and a whole bunch of others.
Anyway, I'm going to be walking around right in front of their gate at three o'clock today on Alameda and Burbank with a couple messages saying that Walt Disney stood for family and American values.
He is currently rolling in his grave.
Yep.
And the Walt Disney Company has declared war on your children and children's innocence with hashtag take back Disney.
I like that.
I like that.
It is a war on their innocence.
What time are you doing that?
3 p.m.
Pacific Standard Time.
Okay, 3 p.m.
Pacific, so in an hour and a half, just less than that.
And what's the cross street?
Where is Disney's headquarters?
The cross streets are Buena Vista Street and Alameda Avenue in Burbank.
Okay, perfect.
Absolutely superb.
Klaus, let's reward him.
Let's stay on the line.
He gets to pick any one of the t-shirts at the Seb Gorka store.
What a great idea.
Join this man.
The Sydney headquarters on Alameda in Burbank.
Let us demonstrate outside there and send a message that you have declared war On the innocence of our children.
God bless you Klaus.
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A buddy of mine just said, oh, the Hunter Biden laptop or hard drive's been given to Congress.
And someone said, oh, I can't wait until they find nothing on that.
I'm like, well, you clearly haven't been following Hunter Biden stuff.
Who are these friends of yours?
I don't know.
There's one in particular that's just a...
Does he read the Daily Beast?
Well, it just sounds like if CNN, you know, puppeteered someone.
If CNN had a baby with the Daily Beast, this would be the person.
CNN Plus just launched, right?
Does anyone know?
Yeah, it launched, I think, yesterday.
I see ads for it, like, on Facebook.
It should have launched on April 1st.
That would have been good.
I'm waiting to watch Chris Wallace again.
They send you ads, Eric?
I've seen them on YouTube and Facebook.
Targeted advertising must be just... What kind of algorithm is sending Eric...
CNN ads.
I'd love to know what he watches.
I'd love to know.
A little bit of Chris Wallace in the evening, is that right?
The best off Chris Wallace Sunday show.
You should see the tweets I get now because...
I'm obsessed with the Twitter Spaces.
Have you seen that?
No.
Where it's like, um, Clubhouse.
Uh huh.
And I've just been listening to weird liberals.
Like the small fringe groups.
They're really nuts.
So Twitter Spaces is like Clubhouse?
Like last night I was listening to California Reparations.
Oh yeah.
I really enjoy these groups.
You are a perverse man.
That's because you miss punking the pranksters.
That was awesome.
I know.
That's what I used to do on the way home.
But now my algorithm's so changed.
That's all liberal stuff.
You've screwed your algorithm.
Yeah.
Well, it's good for research, right?
Yeah.
Good show prep.
All right, so we're going to do some Gates here.
Oh, DJT.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll do some DJT, some Gates.
Definitely got to get some Gates since it's the title of our live stream.
I love they went after Trump's kids who are like the most clean cut, like nice people in the world.
And then.
Oh, yeah.
And then you have Biden's son who's a literal crackhead who's in bed with our two biggest enemies.
I mean, you couldn't write it.
Alright, proof of the poor and relief here.
Do you want any proof of the poor audio?
Uh, I'll use the gunfire, but I'll tee that.
Alright, sounds good.
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We're going to talk about what I saw last night on television.
I managed to tune in to my buddy, Grant Stinchfield's evening show on Newsmax.
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But yesterday, on Grant's show, he had Matt Gaetz on, because Matt Gaetz He just torched the corrupt FBI.
There was a hearing in Congress with Brian Vondran, who is the assistant director.
He's the deputy for the FBI, and he's in charge of cyber crimes.
And Matt wanted to know about a certain laptop.
Cut one.
So where is it?
The laptop.
Sir, I'm not here to talk about the laptop.
I'm here to talk about the FBI cyber program.
You are the assistant director of FBI cyber.
I want to know where Hunter Biden's laptop is.
Where is it?
Sir, I don't know that answer.
That is astonishing to me.
Has FBI cyber assessed whether or not Hunter Biden's laptop could be a point of vulnerability allowing America's enemies to hurt our country?
You've talked about passwords here.
I mean, Hunter Biden's password on his laptop was hunter02.
He drops it off at a repair store.
section 1030, a code which talks about computer intrusions, right, using nefarious intent.
You've talked about passwords here.
I mean, Hunter Biden's password on his laptop was Hunter 02.
He drops it off at a repair store.
I'm holding the receipt from Max Computer Repair, where in In December 2019, they turned over this laptop to the FBI.
And what now you're telling me right here is that as the assistant director of FBI cyber, you don't know where this is after it was turned over to you three years ago.
Yes, sir.
That's an accurate statement.
Yes, sir.
That's an accurate statement.
Agent Brian Vondran, assistant director for cybercrime.
You don't know where Hunter Biden's laptop is?
Despite it being given to the FBI more than two years ago?
How is that possible?
And why does it matter?
Cut to.
So who is it?
Do you even know who has it?
Do you know who we should put in that chair to ask these questions to?
No sir, I don't know who has it.
Well, could you find out and tell us?
You're going to have to give us briefings thanks to Mr. Lew and Mr. Massey's question about whether or not the FBI was taking a $5 million test drive on the Pegasus system that was being used to target people in politics, people in government, people in the media, people in American life.
So will you commit to give us a briefing as the assistant director of FBI cyber as to where the laptop is, whether or not it's a point of vulnerability, whether or not the American people should wonder whether or not the first family is compromised?
Sir, I'd be happy to take your request back to our office.
Gosh, I mean, will you advocate for that briefing?
As in, you will?
I will be happy to take your request back to FBI headquarters.
Well, do you believe that that is a briefing that the Congress is worthy of having, I guess?
Sir, I'm not going to answer that question.
I'm here to talk.
The invitation says Oversight of the FBI's cyber division.
It does not say anything.
Well, right, but I mean, this is a cyber asset.
This is a point of vulnerability.
If there are passwords, if there are business deals, if there are references to things that could harm our country, like, you can't even sit here right now and say that you know that there's not a point of vulnerability.
Maybe there are other crimes, maybe there are tax issues or whatever, but as it relates to, I mean, is the First Family sufficient cyber infrastructure to protect?
I think, uh, Brian Vondren is the future director of the FBI.
Yeah?
Uh, let me not answer your questions and, uh, just, uh, take your request back to, uh, the Hoover Building.
Yeah, that is pure Comey.
What scum?
Okay, here's my question, Mr. G. I need some assistance, external advice.
So you know my history.
I spent a lot of time working with the FBI, training thousands of agents, intelligence analysts, SOS support staff, field offices, RAs across the country.
You've seen all the tchotchkes in the green room.
I've got a lot more at home.
What do I do with all my FBI challenge coins, patches, and plugs?
Is there a point at which I just kind of do something physical with them?
I think you do, because it's insulting the way.
Everyone knows he's lying.
He's just there, oh, I'll get back to you, this, that, or whatever.
It's insulting.
You should treat them the way that they've treated us.
So what do you think I'd do?
What did that putz of an actor say?
He's going to melt down his Oscar if Who said that?
Sean Penn.
Sean Penn.
If Zelensky isn't invited, should I melt it down?
Should I deliver it to the FBI headquarters?
That would be a great idea.
And we should film it.
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
And then we'll put it on Locals.
I love it.
All right, guys.
See?
It's collaboration.
Right?
Cooperation.
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I think you gotta do that.
Address it to call me, or address it to, what's his name, Ray.
No, Ray.
Yeah.
Cause I don't wanna keep him anymore.
It's, it's ridiculous how they- That guy?
It's their mail job.
Not my job?
Walk right in, place it on a desk.
Be fun.
It's crazy when you think about, too, like the FBI.
It's terrible now, but you think about how low the bar already was from the days of the original J. Edgar Hoover.
It was not a clean institution back then.
No, but they fixed it.
Yeah, they fixed it, and now it's, like, arguably even worse.
But 20 years ago, they would at least had some lie.
He went on for three minutes of why you can't do it early.
And that just, I don't care.
No, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't care.
I don't know where it is.
At least they put effort into it before.
He seems like he was falling asleep.
Promo?
For tomorrow... No, we're working on that.
We're going to do ins and outs at the end of this.
One minute.
Any last video calls here?
Last call.
I think we're pretty much... I'll do the Trump.
Oh, Trump.
We'll do Trump.
Okay.
What's your name?
So I didn't know Solomon went to Mar-a-Lago, that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
That's gotta be Mar-a-Lago, yeah.
Yep.
Who's that?
Who's with him?
It's him and uh... They are the show host.
Alright, what did you want to say?
Not Sophie Mann, I'm trying to think of... No, Amanda Head.
That's her name, okay.
Yeah.
28 second long clip.
Alright, 30 seconds till we come in here.
We've got merch.
Yep.
Let's throw...
I'm through with it.
20 seconds.
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Line right there.
Oh, coming with the president.
Yeah, I'm in with him.
Okay, I should be coming in with him.
No, no, no, no.
The line now.
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They never take me on on that.
They just go with the big lie.
They keep saying the big lie, the big lie.
But they never want to sort of, hey, sit down and let's talk.
We'll go state by state.
Fact by fact.
Remember I offered to debate anybody?
Yep.
On the election.
You know, I didn't have one person.
No one took you up, huh?
And we'd get big, big ratings.
Yeah?
I offered to debate any Democrat politician on the election of 2020.
And they didn't, because they can't defend him.
Well, they know that.
They can't.
Why wouldn't they debate him?
Just wait.
In, I think, a week?
Just over a week, my Salem colleague, Dinesh D'Souza, is going to premiere at Mar-a-Lago, and we're going to be there.
Myself, Dennis Prager, Charlie Kirk, all of my Salem colleagues are going to be there for the launch of the 2,000 mules documentary.
Dinesh has acquired the geolocating data for all the phones of the mules, the ballot harvesters in the key districts where the election magically turned around, and...
And the CCTV footage from the municipal buildings where the Zuckerberg drop boxes for the illegal ballot harvesting were located.
And he's matched them up.
And you're going to see at three in the morning, two in the morning, people arriving with duffel bags full of ballots, stuffing them into those drop boxes in states like Georgia, where ballot harvesting itself is illegal.
And then, I think a lot of people who don't consider themselves to be political will wake up and will understand The election truly was stolen in the wee hours when the results were pro-Trump The counting stopped and a few hours later, magically, it was reversed.
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The Russians want to negotiate.
Can you trust a former KGB colonel?
Well, that's going to be the topic of one-on-one today with somebody who knows better than anyone else.
What's really going on in a communist or post-communist state and within the Kremlin?
He is Grove City College's Director of the Faith and Freedom Center, an author of numerous seminal works such as the most recent The Devil and Karl Marx.
Professor Paul Kengor, welcome back to America First One-on-One.
Well, thank you, Seb.
It is always good to be with you, sir.
Let's start with an article you sent me yesterday from the American Spectator that kind of helps us.
There's a concept in national security called strategic culture.
I learned of it from one of the best of the best, the late, great Colin Gray, a British-American dual national who served in the Reagan administration in the National Security Council.
And the theory goes thusly, Paul, that every nation, every elite, has a different strategic culture.
Belgium thinks differently about war than Vanuatu.
The Soviet Union thought differently about war than Americans did.
That's strategic culture.
Will you explain why the concept of death and human suffering or the cost and value of human life is a little bit different in Russia?
Yeah, that's exactly what I wrote about in that piece for American Spectator yesterday, right?
The Russians know death unlike any other people.
And, I mean, it depends on how long or how quickly you want to walk through this.
And, of course, it's no laughing matter.
It's quite tragic.
But going back the last 100 years, Seb, a little over 100 years, I guess, but back to World War I, the Russians from 1914 to 1917 lost more men in World War I than any other country.
And that, in fact, they didn't even finish the war.
They were actually on the winning side, but they pulled out in 1917 after Tsar Nicholas II abdicated in March 1917.
They would have been on our side in that war.
They lost over 3 million people in that war.
Now, to give you a sense of comparison, you know how many people we lost in World War I?
About 110,000.
We arrived a little bit late, a little bit late admittedly, but by comparison, yes.
And then talk about World War Two in terms of just death toll for Russia.
Okay, so World War Two, about 400,000 Americans died, about 400,000 people from the United Kingdom.
So take those two, add them up, multiply them by about 30.
Wow.
And you start to get close to what the Russians lost.
The Russians in World War II probably lost about 27 million people.
Now, that's out of, that would be, it's probably more than half the total dead for all countries in World War II.
From one nation.
From one nation.
So, I mean, it's absolutely staggering.
Now, in between, what am I skipping in between?
Well, the Russian Civil War, which follows World War I, that goes from 1918 to 1921, According to W. Bruce Lincoln, a historian of the Russian Civil War, they lost about 7 million dead Russian men, women, and children in the Civil War.
So that's like double what they lost in World War I. So when you look at the last four weeks, and we've just crossed the month of the war in Ukraine, when you see the reports of between 10,000 and 15,000 Russians killed, that's like, you know, A gnat bite in terms of death tolls that Russia has been used to.
Well, that's exactly right.
And this is the key point, right?
So for people who are saying right now, boy, I'll tell you, I don't know, man, the Russians are losing a lot of people over there in Ukraine.
It's only a matter of time before they back off here and negotiate for peace.
And I'm saying Are you kidding me?
I mean, this is nothing compared to what the Russians are accustomed to, right?
I mean, this is absolutely nothing at all.
And somebody like Vladimir Putin, I'm more afraid here, Seb, of someone like Putin being so frustrated by what he's seeing on the battlefield, from the typically incompetent Russian military commanders and so forth, that he says this is a waste of time.
This is somebody who doesn't care a lot about life in his own country, his own troops, and clearly in the Ukraine.
I'm worried about somebody like him lashing out, not getting what he can get on the battlefield, and resorting to something like weapons of mass destruction.
And our president has already said that if the Russians use WMD, "we would respond in kind." Another of the many statements in the last few weeks said he's had to walk back.
Well, let's be clear here.
What he said was not with reference to WMD.
It was specifically to chemical weapons of mass destruction, which he said in kind, which is, by the way, illegal.
America doesn't have chemical weapons to use offensively.
And since we signed in 1972 with the Soviet Union, the ban on chemical and biological weapons to say, to say as the commander in chief that, yes, we're going to drop VX gas on Moscow.
You know, Paul, as well as I do, that that little video clip is being used by the Kremlin to say, see, we told you so.
Well, that's right.
And he and he's increasingly he meaning Biden.
Is increasingly getting sloppier and sloppier in his statements.
Now, at first he was very careful, right?
He vetoed the idea that we could supply offensive jets, the Poles or whoever, you know, to in the Ukraine.
He said, no, don't do that.
That could prompt World War III.
He rejected the idea of a no-fly zone because he said that would involve NATO planes, US planes, you know, in offensive combat, shooting down Russian planes and killing Russians.
So he's very careful about all of that at first.
But in the last couple of weeks, especially that trip to Poland, Seb, right?
He made the statement to Russian troops in Poland.
I don't know if you have that on audio.
To American troops?
To the 82nd Airborne?
Yeah, to American troops.
I've got it right here in front of me.
Good.
Quote, he told this to US troops in Poland.
Quote, you're going to see when you're there.
You're going to see women, young people, standing in the middle in front of a damn tank saying, I'm not leaving, unquote, right?
You're going to see when you're there.
And that was quickly walked back by a White House spokesperson.
And that could have just been one of these sort of, you know, cognitive moments by Joe Biden where he didn't mean what he said.
But there have been more of these.
At the end of the speech in Warsaw last weekend, He made the comment about regime change, referred to Putin as a butcher.
Yeah, let's play that.
We've got that from yesterday's show.
This is a video cut, too.
This is the putative chief executive of America talking about the president of Russia.
Ukraine will never be a victory for Russia or free people refused to live in a world of hopelessness and darkness.
We will have a different future, a brighter future, rooted in democracy and principle, hope and light, of decency and dignity and freedom and possibilities.
For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.
You understand Soviet Russian propaganda.
How useful is that 20 second clip to the killer who is Putin right now, Kengor?
Massively, massively useful.
And Biden is garbling his words.
He's stuttering.
That's not JFK, right?
That's not Ronald Reagan at the Brandenburg Gate.
He's very inarticulate.
And that statement, quote, for God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.
Yeah.
Antony Blinken responded immediately after that and said, quote, let me be clear.
We do not have a strategy of regime change in Russia, unquote.
And then when Biden got back home, I think he was walking out of mass on Sunday, right?
And a reporter said to him, quote, Mr. President, do you want Putin removed?
Mr. President, were you calling for regime change?
And Biden just simply muttered no before getting in his car.
And it was also President Macron of France who said, this kind of rhetoric is not helpful, including Putin or Biden referring to Putin as a butcher.
Macron said, we want to de-escalate.
We don't want escalation in here.
And I would add here too, for all the liberals out there who said, this is why you need to get rid of Donald Trump, right?
Mr. Loose-lip sink ships, right?
Mr. Warmonger, Paul.
Mr. Warmonger.
Right, the warmonger.
We need somebody who's been on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, you know, forever, longer than Fulbright himself, right?
30 or 40 years, somebody with tact and diplomatic skills, someone who's not sloppy, who doesn't fire from the lip or the hip.
Well, right now, if I was Biden's handlers, I wouldn't let that guy go anywhere near a reporter or a microphone with anything but scripted comments.
Because he's getting sloppier and sloppier and it's not good.
It's potentially quite dangerous.
Why do we love having Paul Kenger on the show?
Because he doesn't fire from the lip or the hip.
He is the only guest who comes on the show.
While we may have a couple of choice video or audio actualities, He preps!
It's like we're going to class and he's reading quotes for us off his computer, because that's how professional.
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Paul, they say that, and it kind of blows my mind, I see well-meaning people, I see idiots say, well, we've got to give Putin an off-ramp.
We've got to negotiate some peace.
When do dictators or authoritarians care about off-ramps?
Since 1917, when do they want to actually have a decent status quo, Professor Kengor?
Yeah, it doesn't happen very often.
And in fact, when you have somebody who doesn't care about human life, right, as Vladimir Putin is clearly demonstrating right now, he wants to beat the Ukraine.
This is in his heart.
He's going to probably keep at it until he perseveres.
And this again, I take it back to my numbers in that American Spectator piece.
What the Russians do, people who say, oh, they're getting their tails kicked right now in Ukraine.
They always get their tails kicked.
They always lose massive numbers of people.
Since Napoleon.
Since Napoleon.
We're talking millions in World War I more than any other country.
Millions in their Civil War.
Tens of millions in World War II more than any other country.
And by the way, in Afghanistan, they were there for 10 years.
They were there from 79 to 89, all right?
They stayed in there for a long time.
The only reason that they went out, well, other than Stinger missiles and Reagan and our policy and arming the Mujahideen, but Mikhail Gorbachev called it a burning sore, right?
And at that point in 1988, he pulled out his troops.
Right.
But they are always in for the long haul.
It's not in their nature to be there.
And there I'm talking about kind of Russian strategic culture generally.
And remember, Putin spent 15 years in the KGB.
The guy was a lieutenant colonel in the KGB.
So he's probably even more committed.
No, I don't expect him to tuck tail here and suddenly change his mind.
So let's talk about this.
So you've authored a library of books.
You've written about Blessed Saint John Paul, the Pope and the President, Ronald Reagan, the Crusader, Ronald Reagan, and the fall of communism.
Dupes is one of my favorites.
Guys, dupes is essential reading when it comes to the Useful idiots and those who help the Soviet Union and most recently the devil and Karl Marx.
Let's pretend it's day one of Paul Kengo's communism in Russia 101 course.
What is the first thing that neophytes, that amateurs, need to understand about Russia.
Explain why Russia isn't like France, Russia isn't like Switzerland, France isn't like Canada.
Explain why Russia isn't like those countries and why it is so very very different.
And also the importance of the strongman.
Yeah, it is so very very different and it's really kind of deep-seated.
In fact, Our old friend, the late Richard Pipes, who was professor at Harvard forever, for a long time, going back to 1950.
He just died a few years ago.
He wrote books on the Russian Revolution, the Russian Civil War, communism, history, and he was in kind of a battle with Alexander Solzhenitsyn, of all people, who we also greatly respect, because Pipes made comments like this, and Solzhenitsyn thought that Pipes was making a comment On the Russian people generally, right?
That this is a people that's kind of destined for authoritarian leaders.
That this is part of Russian culture.
This is how they are.
And I'm not gonna go that far.
I'm not gonna say that.
But let's just say, and God bless Pipes, who is a giant in your field, but there's not a lot of evidence to the contrary That it isn't something deep-seated in Russian culture, from Ivan the Terrible all the way to Putin, this atavistic, innate proclivity to follow a strong man.
That's not a statement unfounded by empirical data, is it, Paul?
No, that's right.
In fact, I remember the 1990s post-communist Russia period.
And I was talking to somebody from there and he said, look, there are no Thomas Jeffersons in Russia, right?
You have this country so rich in playwrights, writers, literature, pianists, composers, right?
Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, right?
and some of them with great statements about morality, Dostoevsky among them.
But they've never had a Milton Friedman.
Yeah.
Right?
They've never had a Thomas Jefferson or James Madison.
Boris Yeltsin was probably about the closest that they got.
And Boris Yeltsin, you know, God rest his soul, is the one that gave us Vladimir Putin.
In fact, Yeltsin-- And let's be clear why he gave us Vladimir Putin.
He gave us Vladimir Putin to protect himself for the millions and millions and millions of dollars he stole from the Russian people.
He put Putin in place to protect him and his family, Paul.
Well, he and the Duma, in fact, he went through a, you know, Yeltsin had this sort of heroic period from about 1987 through 1994, 1995.
But his second term was just so corrupt, so bad.
The Duma, led by the communists in the Duma, tried to impeach him in 1998.
He went through a period in 1988-99 where he went through five prime ministers, right?
So Yeltsin was actually president.
And he got to a point where he reached a compromise candidate with the Duma in August 1999, and it was a guy named Vladimir Putin.
And you and I are both old enough to remember this, right?
Remember Y2K, the eve of Y2K?
We had this shocking announcement, not of an accidentally launched nuclear missile coming from Russia, which everybody was actually afraid of at that point.
But Yeltsin comes out and announces to the world that he's resigning as president of Russia.
And he gives probably the nicest speech of his entire time in office.
But he says, you know, why should I continue to stay here when we have a strong man?
A strong man that we all know, and the future of every Russian's hopes and dreams are pinned, and this strong man is Vladimir Putin.
So Putin comes in in March of 2000.
He wins the election that year, wins again four years later.
That was supposed to be the end of it.
And we have to talk about what happened in 99 with a certain series of bombings of Russian apartment buildings.
We're talking to Paul Kengel, the author of The Devil and Karl Marx.
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Paul, you mentioned this very peculiar way that Putin was slotted into place to cover Yeltsin's back as he rode off into the sunset with hundreds of millions of dollars putatively.
His rise to power is also inextricably linked, is it not, to the bombing of several apartment blocks in Russia that Given the evidence don't seem to actually have been done by the Chechen terrorists.
He said executed them.
How much does this indicate the type of man the West is dealing with?
Yeah, I remember there was a cartoon in March of 2000.
And in fact, I show it to my students in one of my courses at Grove City College.
And it had it said put in or put in like and then it said put out.
And it had this garbage can of skulls marked Chechnya on it.
So, you know, already as soon as he came in, Putin was already hammering Chechnya, violence from the very beginning.
And again, this guy should have been out of power in 2008.
So the Russian constitution had two four year terms.
He immediately instead made himself prime minister, made Dmitry Medvedev president.
Medvedev was his lapdog.
That's the one that, you know, called Obama, Comrade Obama.
And Obama said to Medvedev, I'll have more flexibility after the election.
Right.
That was in 2012.
And Medvedev said, very good.
I tell Vladimir.
Right.
And then Vladimir found a way to get himself back into power.
Here we are, 2022.
The guy's been in power now for 22 years.
This was supposed to be eight years.
And he's in power probably till at least 20, 2036.
Frankly, he's probably in power until he dies, right?
So let's stop there for a second.
This is important.
What is the likelihood, given how many people he's killed or had killed, including Nemtsov, that this man cannot be replaced because there is no organic resistance that can take him on?
Well, I think it's a good question.
And, you know, Lindsey Graham called for him to be removed and people had a cow over that.
Of course, Biden seems to have said that over the weekend, right?
But really, truly, the only thing that would probably resolve this would, in fact, be Putin being removed from power.
But what are the chances?
I mean, this is very, very difficult.
I mean, look, we've had three Kims in charge of Korea, right?
North Korea now, going back to the mid-1940s.
No one's ever able to get to him.
How many assassination attempts were there against Saddam Hussein, right?
Saddam Hussein couldn't be taken out.
Hitler.
I mean, there were a number of assassination attempts against Hitler.
Even Stalin.
At one point, Molotov and the boys tried to move in on Stalin.
It's very, very difficult, especially with somebody like Putin, who's been taking out dissidents.
And people who disagree with him from the very beginning.
Especially an individual who worked for the secret police.
Let's be clear, you can't denude him of this.
This idea that he's a champion of Western Christendom and he's fighting the globalists.
No, he's a stinking KGB colonel.
We're talking to Professor Paul Kengor.
He is the executive director, senior director of the Institute for Faith and Freedom.
At Grove City College.
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Paul, you are the author of seminal works.
You mentioned the late, great Professor Pipes.
I want to list at least a handful of your books right now.
You've written The Crusader, you've written Dupes, you did, I think, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Communism, you did A Pope and the President, and then most recently The Devil and Karl Marx.
Would you give us just a little praise for your thumbnail?
of how crucial real leadership in the West was to the victory against the Soviet Union and the threat of communism in the 20th century.
So I grew up under Margaret Thatcher.
For me, she is crucial to understanding the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Yeah, our friend John O'Sullivan did a book right on the President, the Pope, and the Prime Minister.
And so Margaret Thatcher is definitely one of them.
You know, I would add here Vaclav Havel, Lech Walesa.
Gorbachev, I give Gorbachev his due, even if a lot of what he did was unintentional.
But careful, let's be clear here.
Gorbachev, Archie Brown's biography is garbage.
Gorbachev did what he did, perestroika and glasnost, to reform communism, not to get rid of it.
Well yeah, and it was to preserve the Soviet Union.
And he said that his entire life, right?
His goal was never for the Soviet Union to fall apart.
That's right, perestroika and glasnost were about making it a kinder, better Soviet Union.
But it was Reagan who wanted to take the Soviet Union down.
And you mentioned John Paul II as well.
In fact, in that piece for Spectator yesterday, I quote him.
He said, every human being is unique, precious, and unrepeatable.
Right?
Unique, precious, and unrepeatable.
They're all made in the image of God.
Unfortunately to Vladimir Putin, And this long line of Soviet leaders, every human being is not unique, precious and unrepeatable.
They're actually repeatable, which is why they're willing to eliminate or allow so many of them to die in combat, or in leaders like Stalin and Lenin, eliminate or liquidate them wholly if they stand in the way.
But what we had in the 1980s, or really that period from 1978-79 on, Margaret Thatcher came in—well, John Paul II came in first, Margaret Thatcher, and then Ronald Reagan came in in 1981.
Reagan, among other things, did everything he could to try to clamp down on the Soviet production of energy exports—natural gas, oil.
In fact, we worked with the Saudis to make up for any lack of oil that wasn't coming from the Soviet Union during that time.
The Saudis worked with us also not only to hurt the Soviets, but the Iranians as well.
So the fact that Biden right now will be looking to Iran, Venezuela, and other places, he's doing everything that Ronald Reagan wouldn't have done in the 1980s.
And how crucial was that moment where the quote-unquote amiable dunce was lambasted and called a warmonger for when he gave that speech where he called out the regime in Moscow for what it was and he used the phrase evil empire that that clarity that moral clarity compared to today when you know we we we go to Venezuela to
An ally of Moscow to buy oil as Moscow is bombing civilians in Ukraine.
Talk to us about the moral clarity of the statecraft at the end of the Cold War.
Yeah, I think George Will said Reagan re-moralized the conflict, right?
You know, Ronald Reagan declared war on what he called moral equivalency.
This idea that, as he put it in the evil empire speech, right, that the Cold War was just sort of one big mistake, right?
That the West was just as culpable and guilty of starting and prolonging the Cold War as the Soviet Union.
Reagan said that's complete rubbish, right?
The American system is far superior to the Soviet system.
And Reagan even said in that speech, and probably the part, definitely the part that was most missed by liberals, Reagan pointed the finger at the US.
He said, we have our own legacy of sin in this country.
He condemned racism.
anti-Semitism, right?
The United States is slavery.
He said, we're not perfect.
He said, but, you know, America in the 1980s at that point in time was certainly far superior to the Soviet Union, which was an evil empire.
And when you hear people today, Paul Kengor, who say they're conservatives, voted for President Trump, who clearly had clarity on who America's enemies are, say things like, well, Putin's the good guy. say things like, well, Putin's the good guy.
He's fighting the globalists.
He's Fighting for Christian civilization and we're really responsible because NATO surrounded Russia and you know the bio labs that we were helping to fund were going to launch an attack against Russia.
You know the history intimately of this regime of the 20th century.
What is your response as an American conservative?
Yeah, I would tell conservatives, okay, so it is indeed true that Vladimir Putin put the first restrictions on abortion since Stalin, all right?
Stalin actually put restrictions on abortion.
In 1936, in fact, abortion was so out of control, Stalin said, we're going to lose entire generations of Russians.
We got to stop this.
He banned it in 36.
Trotsky condemned him for it.
Khrushchev brought it back in 1955.
And then the first restrictions were put on abortion in Russia, not until Putin.
Putin, yes, supports traditional marriage.
He says, we will have mama and papa in our country.
But even if conservatives agree with him on these cultural issues, gender issues, perhaps some sexual issues, I guess, if that's the way to put it, it doesn't mean that he's a good guy.
Let's flip the coin.
Didn't Hitler do exactly the same thing?
If you were Aryan and Germanic, you had to be in a traditional marriage and have babies and you were given concessions.
That was Adolf Hitler, Paul.
Yeah, and Hitler liked puppies, right?
Yeah, he liked dogs!
So what does that mean?
Hitler's now a good guy?
Are you crazy?
Right, right, exactly.
No, I mean, there are things like this.
It's more complicated than this.
But the fact of the matter is Putin invaded independent Ukraine, which declared independence in 1991.
He has absolutely no right to do this.
And also the idea, too, that expanding NATO did this in some way provoke Putin.
That's absolute nonsense as well.
One of the things that we were worried about in the whole expansion of NATO debate in the 1990s and letting in Russia was the fact that what if you let in a country like Russia and you have a NATO member that goes and invades one of its neighbors?
What What do you do, right?
Can we let in Russia that might invade Ukraine?
Turkey and Greece and Cyprus was bad enough, right, Paul?
Right, right, right.
And we let in first Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic.
That was in the 1990s.
We let in a stone- And let's be clear, the phrase you're using is let in.
No, NATO didn't invade and gobble up anybody.
I was in Hungary working on it for the first conservative government, helping them apply to NATO.
And they had to meet standards.
It was a club you had to join.
It wasn't the Warsaw Pact where you were gobbled up by somebody far larger.
I'm talking to the author of A Pope and a President, Paul Kengel.
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Paul, we've only got a few minutes left.
Your most recent work is The Devil and Karl Marx.
Let's just give our millions of listeners and viewers across the nation a little taste of the darkest aspects of what we're talking about.
Because this isn't just an ideology competing with democracy or republicanism or free markets.
There's something truly diabolical about communism, is there not?
Because this book documents it.
There is, and I think even liberals are finally starting to see this now, right?
When you look at the worst countries in the world with the worst behavior, right?
One of them is run by a former KGB lieutenant colonel.
The other is communist China.
Then there is North Korea.
We still have issues in Cuba, right?
So here we are after the Cold War, 30 years after the end of the Cold War, and we're still getting all these international headaches and problems and brutality by communists, of all things.
And also to pick up from the last segment, this is a really important point on NATO expansion and aggression and imperialism and so forth.
You know, this whole idea that The United States let these countries in, or like pulled them in, Hungary, Czech Republic, and Poland, as some sort of American imperialism, is insanity!
That is complete... These countries were begging us to come into NATO in the 1990s.
There was a really vigorous debate in the United States in the 1990s.
People like Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Kennan, and others, right?
And Americans saying, you know, I don't know, do you think we would really go to war in Poland?
If Poland were attacked by Russia, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Should we let them in?
Should we let them in?
I don't know, right?
Back and forth.
And these countries begged us to let them in.
And in fact, some of the countries put it on referendum.
I think Poland, the vote was like 85% among the Polish people, right?
Saying, yes, please let us in, let us in.
And then all the other countries in Eastern Europe, same thing from Slovakia to Slovenia.
We even let in North Macedonia of all things, right?
Do you want your kid dying for the North Macedonians?
Probably not, right?
We weren't expanding NATO as an act of imperialism.
Just the opposite.
The more countries that we let in, the more it commits us to having to defend those countries.
Yeah, and I'm so glad you mentioned that.
I should have talked about that more on my show and I will.
This was a very, very solid debate for the whole of the 1990s.
We discussed this in Washington, in Paris, in London.
Should we?
Shouldn't we?
What do they bring to the table?
Are they democracies?
Are they stable?
This isn't a question of us gobbling them up.
It is a club for collective defense of people who must be serious allies to each other.
We've just scratched the surface.
Educate yourself.
Read any of the superlative works by Paul Gengor.
Start with A Pope and the President, and then don't forget his most recent, which is, of course, The Devil and Karl Marx.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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