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Feb. 9, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: DHS targeting "disinformation terrorists"

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	What are your thoughts on children, first of all, needing to wear masks at school?
	And what do you think about the possibility we're going to be able to lift them?
	Well, certainly there will come a time, hopefully, when we will be able to lift the mask mandate in general, including to schools, but we're not there yet.
	Why?
	Why aren't we there?
	That's Fauci.
	Yesterday I asked, where's Fauci?
	Well, I guess he's not so sexy anymore.
	What was that?
	That was NBC Chicago, Jeff?
	NBC Chicago.
	I thought he was like this big national figure.
	Isn't he like St.
	Fauci?
	Yeah, it's not Meet the Press.
	It's not all the Sunday shows.
	He's not on CNN every night anymore.
	Not so sexy anymore.
	I wonder why.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	This is America First.
	I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump, member today of the National Security Education Board of the Pentagon, because I guess Biden just is too scared of me.
	I want to talk about courage.
	Let's start with masks.
	Can I give you just a little cliff notes on masks, which any adult took me 30 seconds, 30 seconds to refresh the numbers using a search engine as I was prepping for the show.
	What is the size?
	If we're talking about masks, would you write this information down and just share it with your friends?
	What is the size of the COVID virus?
	0.125 microns.
	Now, what does that mean?
	What is a micron?
	Well, let's think of a very small thing.
	Let's think of a human hair.
	A human hair is 70 microns wide.
	Okay, so that gives you an idea of the metric we are using.
	70 microns is a hair.
	Covid is 0.125 of a micron.
	Tiny, invisible to the naked eye.
	So masks.
	Will a mask protect you?
	Well, the surgical, proper, professional N95 mask will filter objects down to the size Of 0.3 microns.
	So even the best will not stop it.
	You can get three COVID particles through the pores of an N95.
	How many people wear N95s?
	Fraction.
	Most people have their... I mean, look at Nancy Pelosi with her designer masks.
	Some people with their sparkly masks.
	Even the green masks that look like you're such a professional medical character on House M.D.
	Even one of those green masks that look so impressive will only stop something 5, 0.5 microns in size.
	Which means what?
	Absolutely irrelevant to COVID.
	So why do we have masks?
	Well, let's start with that.
	Are they an illusion?
	Is it stupid?
	A mask does one thing.
	Unless you're in a respirator that is fitted to you, that is issued to you, unless you're working in a biohazard lab with a forced atmosphere, A cloth mask does only one thing.
	Stops large droplets from being exhaled from your mouth or your nose.
	Mucus, droplets, aerosols.
	Not viruses.
	Utterly irrelevant to viruses.
	You're a cult member if you're wearing a mask.
	If you are wearing a mask right now and you weren't wearing a mask before COVID, you shouldn't be allowed to vote because you're not an adult.
	As I saw today in the playground, a mother wearing a mask.
	If you weren't wearing a mask three years ago, And you're wearing one now?
	You're a moron.
	You're a cult member.
	You're an imbecile.
	I just did the math for you.
	It doesn't stop viruses.
	It doesn't stop COVID.
	We have become a society where far too many people, millions of people, don't care about doing the right thing, doing that which is good.
	They care to conform.
	A confusion has occurred whereby people think the moral thing to do is to conform.
	Conformity has never been part of the definition of morality, doing the good thing.
	If it were, then the Holocaust would have been okay.
	Conforming to the rules, the diktats, the befehle, the orders of the Third Reich would have been morally sound if conformity is the yardstick.
	But it's not.
	And as people found out, as the leaders of the Nazi regime like Rudolf Hess sitting in the dock at Nuremberg found, The excuse, I was following orders, is not satisfactory.
	That is not a moral justification for anything.
	I was following what Fauci told me.
	Just as he said in that interview.
	Well, we still have to wear masks.
	Why do we have to wear masks if they don't stop the virus?
	If 0.05% of children are dying from COVID, why are they wearing masks?
	Breaking the rules isn't the definition of doing the good.
	But neither is obeying mindlessly.
	Every human being has a soul.
	Because we are made in the image of our Creator.
	That is the internal, eternal element of who we are.
	That soul has a compass.
	That is your conscience.
	And for most people, unless they're sociopaths, unless they're psychos, That compass works.
	You know when you're doing something wrong, don't you?
	You've got that itching feeling.
	You've got that sense, that little Jiminy Cricket whispering in the back of your mind.
	Don't do that.
	You know it's wrong.
	The question is, what do you do with that feeling?
	Do you suppress it?
	Do you rationalize ignoring it?
	Or do you get on a truck and drive to Ottawa?
	Do you drive to Ontario?
	Do you drive to the U.S.
	border?
	Do you stand up at a school board meeting in Loudoun County in Fairfax?
	Do you, after the Canadian police confiscate, steal the fuel the truck drivers were using to keep themselves warm in the cabs of their vehicles?
	Do you fill up a jerry can full of diesel and walk it to the Freedom Convoy Camp?
	It's a glorious video.
	If you haven't seen it, you need to see it.
	That's the definition of doing the good thing.
	And it's time to break the stranglehold of conformity.
	Because there is no moral content to doing that which other people do or doing that which you are told to do.
	That is an abnegation of your moral choice.
	That is being a blind adherent to somebody else.
	It's time to resist.
	It's time not to comply.
	It's time to take back America.
	One school board meeting.
	One freedom convoy at a time.
	Are you part of that march?
	Because we've waited long enough.
	This is America First.
	Cut one from yesterday.
	I'm going to need that.
	Mike's on.
	Okay.
	Where is that?
	Somewhere?
	It's in Washington state.
	Washington state.
	Do you want to hear this audio cut?
	Yes, please.
	I can't hear it, John.
	If you punch some unvaccinated person right in the faces, which I'd really like to do, you're not vaccinated and you don't have any medical reason not to be, you're a piece of Okay, I'll just punch you right in the goddamn face.
	That's the way I look at these people.
	Agreed.
	Agreed.
	Can you get Cassio to post that with a picture of Carville?
	Because that would really hurt if he punched someone.
	Yeah, Carville.
	Oh yeah, Rocky.
	Carville calling for violence.
	Will he be cancelled?
	All right, I will dial.
	He's like 78 or something.
	Did you know that?
	And he's like 95 pounds.
	Alright, dialing her now on Skype channel 1.
	Hello, Miss Lake, can you hear us?
	I sure can.
	Hello.
	Good morning.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Letting you know the mics are live on our video broadcast as usual.
	Awesome.
	Hi, Seb.
	Sebastian, how are you?
	Good, good.
	You always look amazing.
	Your studio setup is like, well, of course, you're a media professional.
	Well, I have good lighting.
	Yeah.
	When you're an aging starlet, you have to have lighting.
	You've been rocking it.
	We are so excited to follow you every single day.
	Thank you.
	And thanks for having me on.
	Totally.
	I just want to grab something at my desk here.
	Yeah.
	Two minutes.
	Okay.
	What are we talking about today?
	Why you're such a troublemaker.
	How about that?
	We got to make trouble.
	I know.
	I know.
	We're not going to have a country.
	We're going to celebrate that.
	We're going to celebrate that.
	We're going to talk about that campaign, that video you sent me.
	We're going to talk about rhinos.
	We'll mention your website, election integrity.
	What else is important to you?
	Um, I think that's good.
	I'm doing an interview later with Australia's 60 Minutes.
	They want to talk to me about the death of democracy.
	I had to remind them we live in a constitutional republic.
	Did you tell them the death of democracy in Australia is a really good topic?
	I know.
	It's like, really?
	Australians are gonna lecture us?
	Wow.
	So that's coming up later.
	Ask them about their COVID camps.
	Exactly.
	Internment camps.
	So, you know, you have to, when somebody escapes from one, they hunt them down.
	We played that.
	I thought it was a joke.
	We played that news item, you know, three men where there is a APB out for three men who escaped from the COVID camp.
	I just can't believe that many people can fall for that.
	I mean, there's enough people in Australia.
	I mean, maybe, you know, Switzerland, but Australia?
	They used to be kind of cool down there.
	I know!
	know 15 new guys that standby so making sense
	out of today's news here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
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	I love seeing people, adults, grow into a new role, to take on a challenge, to just run with it, embrace it, and flourish.
	And that's exactly what's happening with our next guest.
	Our first guest of the day, Carrie Lake is running for the governor of the great state of Arizona.
	Carrie, welcome back to America First.
	Oh, it's good to be here, Seb.
	Thanks for having me on today.
	All right.
	So you've sent me some material.
	You've sent me a long video of you on a panel with some other candidates.
	When you started off, we had you on very early because you came to me, I don't know, before COVID, it felt like, and you approached me at an event in DC.
	You told me about your plans.
	Very exciting.
	And it took you, you were clearly a little bit trepidatious because you'd had this incredible career in the media.
	Now you're rowing off onto new waters.
	You've become a real warrior.
	Tell us about your transformation and share with our millions of listeners what this experience has been like for you.
	I'll try to tell you the Reader's Digest version.
	I worked for 27 years as a journalist covering this amazing state of Arizona and covering the people and the issues.
	But even though I always felt I worked for the good guys, Fox, I realized during COVID there are no good guys.
	It is all propaganda meant to divide this country and hurt this country.
	And I made the difficult decision to walk away from my career and my comfortable life My my nice paycheck because I felt the work was immoral and After I walked away the people of Arizona reached out to me thanking me for my long career and being an honest journalist and many of them said please run for office we need people like you and so I decided after a lot of people reached out and asked me to do that and That I would, I would throw my hat in the ring.
	And now we are the front runner.
	We are fighting to take our state back.
	We are up more than 40% in the polls.
	We've got the most amazing endorsements.
	President Trump has endorsed me and many others.
	And the America First movement is solidly behind us.
	So we're doing amazing things and we're just trying to make sure we can save Arizona.
	We are surrounded by blue states and I'm talking socialist states like California.
	And we're not interested in that garbage here.
	And we will hold the line and not let this kind of stuff come into Arizona.
	And we are going to do it.
	We've got a red state here even though our election tried to say otherwise.
	We know our election was corrupt and we're fighting that.
	And we're just at a moment in our history, Seb, where we all have to stand up and fight for this country or we won't have a country anymore.
	We're going to talk about what's happening in Arizona, whether it's salvageable, we'll talk about election integrity, but I opened the show with a monologue on courage, and I want to share with you, bear with me, it's a slightly longer cut, but I think it goes to the heart of your campaign.
	This is from Washington State.
	This is a high schooler who's pushing back with his fellow students, and I think this is kind of the message you have for your state.
	This is cut one from yesterday, play cut.
	We want this to be a peaceful, respectful movement.
	We are just trying to gain back our rights as citizens.
	We do not care about the teachers in the end are just doing their jobs.
	It doesn't come from them.
	It comes from the state.
	Now.
	What we're hoping is that they kick us out.
	This sounds bad, but we're hoping that they kick us out.
	Because they have to report that attendance to the state.
	And if the state sees a day where a hundred, or I don't even know how many kids are here, are absent, they're gonna start asking questions.
	Our hope is, is we can get this statewide.
	Now I might get in trouble for this, but the plan still stands for Wednesday.
	For tomorrow, I mean.
	Everybody is gonna meet at the back row of the senior parking lot and we're all walking into the school with no mask on.
	You can get me in trouble, they can suspend me, I don't care.
	We're done with this.
	And obviously all of you are too.
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	Obviously all you are are done with the mask too.
	Now again, we're doing this peacefully and respectfully.
	If a staff member asks you to put a mask on, you say no thank you and keep walking.
	And if they kick you out, then go home.
	And if people need rides home, then some of the seniors, I'm sure we can start giving people rides home.
	That's about it.
	That is a senior at Warshugle High School in Washington who said, we're done with this.
	If they suspend us, that's OK.
	Is that the kind of spirit you're talking about?
	Because Carrie, a lot of people are worried about Arizona.
	A lot of people have left those Democrat states and moved to your state and changed the politics.
	Is that the kind of energy you're trying to channel?
	First of all, I have to say, God bless that young man.
	He has the spirit and the DNA of our founding fathers in him.
	And I am, as a mom, I'm so proud of that kid.
	We have failed our children, Seb.
	We have failed them.
	These masks, these mandates were destroying their lives.
	And they're looking around for an adult in the room who can stand up and say, this is nonsense.
	Take those masks off and be free.
	And I'm so proud of that young man and all those kids walking out and walking in and saying, we're not going to be putting these filthy, dirty masks on anymore.
	I've been fighting for these kids since the very beginning.
	I've been rallying with kids who, my opponents actually were for the mandates and tried to make the kids at ASU wear masks in 115 degree heat.
	And they were all for that.
	And I have been against that and rallying and supporting these kids since the beginning.
	These kids have had their lives turned upside down and we need more adults to step forward and say, this is nonsense and we're not going to put up with it.
	And it's coming.
	You're right.
	He was right from the state.
	We learned during COVID how powerful our governors are, how powerful our states are.
	We let a bunch of bureaucrats in the health department turn our lives upside down, shut our businesses, Shut down our churches and destroy our kids lives and we've had it and we're not going to take it anymore.
	When I'm governor, I'm not going to put a bunch of bureaucrats in those positions.
	I'm going to be putting frontline doctors heading up our health department.
	People who've actually treated patients.
	This is nonsense what we've been through and the American people have had enough and we're going to take our state's rights back.
	And I'm so proud of that young man.
	Maybe he wants to come to Arizona and work in my administration.
	I love it.
	The website is CarrieLake.com.
	Support this lady.
	She's staying with us for one more segment.
	We're going to talk about that individual you challenged on a stage about there.
	Culpability when it comes to the treatment of children in your great state.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
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	The End
	All right, we'll discuss that event, your challenge, the reaction.
	We'll talk about rhinos, and then we'll let you go.
	Okay.
	Oh, that got me emotional, Seb.
	I wasn't prepared for that.
	Isn't that incredible?
	Oh, man.
	You know what?
	This country's coming back.
	That gave me so much hope to see that today.
	I think, you know, it's hard to know the figures.
	I was listening to my good buddy, It was Dan Bongino's show today.
	And he thinks that we have, because of COVID, because of the Fauci's, we will have created an anti-government, you know, freedom generation.
	I hope Dan's right.
	I hope Dan's right.
	I can tell you from my, what I have in my campaign, and people are always shocked when we show up.
	We have so many young people, 18, 35 year olds who are like, We are conservative.
	We didn't know it.
	We've been brainwashed.
	We have a huge movement of young people.
	They've had their lives turned upside down.
	Well, in Virginia, as a resident, we saw something amazing here with the governor's election.
	A good friend of mine runs the district.
	She's the captain for the district.
	And she's been doing it for five years.
	She said she has never seen as many volunteers, especially from the Asian community, who just said, I've never been involved in politics, but if you need an extra pair of hands, here I am.
	Use me.
	And I think, you know, God willing, we'll see that everywhere, including Arizona.
	Yes.
	Yes, indeed.
	That's great.
	We have a lot of volunteers as well.
	Our biggest problem in our campaign is we don't know what to do with all of our volunteers.
	That's a good problem!
	That is a good problem.
	They're like, we want to work, we want to be active, and we're trying to get them activated, but it's a lot of people, thousands of people.
	Good, good.
	Well, if you need a hand, if you want me to come for an event, just text me.
	Oh, that'd be awesome.
	Well, sorry, I have a little bug flying around.
	It's alright, we can't see it.
	We have all kinds of events.
	We're having a really cool event.
	It's the first ever rodeo and concert and rally.
	You know, I have rallies here.
	And that's March 5th.
	Do you want to come out for that?
	What day of the week is that?
	I think it's a Saturday.
	It's going to be truly an Arizona event.
	Michael Lindell just told me he's going to come out for it, so I'm excited about that.
	Where are you doing that?
	It's in a town called Morristown, which is just outside of the Phoenix area.
	Fun.
	And then we're also having an event, Seb, on April 7th in Mar-a-Lago.
	I invited you to the last one.
	Yes, you sent me the last one.
	I couldn't come.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Do you want to come for this one?
	Do you want to come in with a cut of her from the rally?
	Yeah, come in with the rally cut.
	All right, cut seven after the liner.
	All right, keep me posted.
	40 seconds, standby.
	40 seconds.
	All right.
	We have Merchant. - Okay.
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	When I am your governor, there will be no mandates and no lockdowns.
	Actually, actually.
	Actually, let me revise that just a little bit.
	I want to lock somebody down.
	And it's that liar, Dr. Fauci.
	I'm trying to think.
	Jeff, you're my political mastermind.
	Have you ever seen anybody become so hardcore MAGA so quickly like Carrie Lake?
	No, it's perfect.
	It's fabulous.
	I just love that cut.
	There's one person that we want to lock down and it's Fauci.
	She's back.
	We love her.
	The website is CarrieLake.com.
	Follow her on Twitter.
	She's got a great Instagram and Twitter game.
	Carrie with a K, by the way.
	You've so embraced this new life.
	You've so embraced the America First standard.
	You are a standard bearer for MAGA.
	We've got to talk RINOS because this is our biggest enemy.
	The left of the left, we know they're crazies, we know they're radicals, but we've got the fifth columnists.
	We've got to get your reaction to this.
	The turtle, the Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, has criticized the RNC, the National Committee for the Republican Party, over their decision to censure Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger because of their involvement in the House Select Committee.
	Not only that, he said, That's not the job of the RNC.
	Well, I don't know what is.
	What, can you do whatever you want as a Republican?
	He also said that January the 6th was a violent insurrection.
	You sent me a video with some real rhinos.
	Where do you stand on this issue?
	Do you share my analysis that perhaps this is the bigger problem we face in the near term?
	Absolutely.
	I do want to bring the Republican Party together in Arizona.
	We have people who are establishment types and we have, of course, a huge movement of America First.
	And I think America First policies are the only way out of the mess we're in.
	Whether it deals with our economy, our national security, we need to bring everything back from China.
	We need to permanently cut the CCP off.
	But we need to eventually congeal and bring the Republican Party together.
	That being said, there's no room for the people who are never Trumpers and who are rhinos.
	They will never work with us.
	And you know, they need to really do some soul searching and decide, are they conservatives or are they indeed globalist, elitist?
	And frankly, liberals.
	And that's going to be on them to figure out.
	But for Mitch McConnell, I mean, I'm not surprised.
	That doesn't surprise me at all that he said all of that.
	I want to ask you your personal decision.
	Clearly, you know, you're doing amazingly well.
	Arizonans know you.
	They've known you across the biggest news markets because of your media career.
	What was it that made you completely change your life with this decision?
	Was it the COVID lockdowns?
	Was there something that tipped you over the edge and said that now I have a role to play, Carrie?
	Yeah, I mean it truly was.
	COVID just was such an eye-opener and being in the media and seeing that the corporate media had no desire to cover stories that would help people.
	It was just pushing fear Pushing people to be isolated, quarantined, businesses shut down.
	There was no interest in covering stories about treatments that were working, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and just mentioning them, which I did, would land you in trouble.
	And I just realized I don't want to be part of that.
	It's divisive.
	It is.
	It's tearing this country apart.
	It really was an eye opener that I realized that there's no good guys in the corporate media.
	They're all pushing an agenda and a narrative, and it's anti-American and was meant to really drive us apart.
	So that's what made me want to leave.
	And you know, the great thing, I've always been patriotic and I am MAGA all the way through and through, but being in the media for 30 years, you weren't allowed to really share your opinions.
	You had to keep it very tight.
	Your friends knew how you felt, but you couldn't share those opinions.
	I'm really enjoying Having my voice back and being able to share my opinions and my thoughts.
	And I'm just so glad to be in the America First Movement.
	We're at a really great time in our history.
	As bad as things feel, we are at a pivotal moment in American history and in human history.
	And I do believe God put us here, all of us, for a reason.
	We are going to save this country.
	And I believe that with all of my heart.
	Scary where we are right now, but we're going to move through this and come out better and stronger.
	That's the American way.
	She's come out of her shell.
	She has found her voice, and it's a fabulous one.
	She is a warrior for America First, for MAGA.
	You've got to support this lady.
	Follow her at Kari Lake, K-A-R-I, Kari Lake, and go to her website, karilake.com.
	The door is almost always a welcome, always open for you, Kari.
	This is America First.
	It's Ladies' Day today.
	We're going to go from Kari Lake to Trish Regan, then Jennifer Horne.
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	I will dial up Trish next.
	Ringing.
	Did you see that...
	I just wrote that tweet.
	Mitch McConnell is done.
	23,000 likes in one day.
	Are you serious?
	23,000.
	Just that one sentence.
	Pretty crazy.
	Speaking of incredible numbers, oh, error.
	Let me try calling back.
	Give Senko for the truckers!
	Yes!
	7.67 million dollars.
	Nice!
	47% of the way.
	Uh, yeah.
	Now she's anxious to do a phone call.
	Maybe, yeah.
	Have prepared for that.
	90 seconds.
	Oh, got, uh, yeah.
	Error.
	Second time.
	I think we're just gonna call it.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	Uh, got any titles in mind?
	Um... Carrie Lake.
	Let's Lock Down Fauci.
	And 1A, um... Fauci Wants You Mars Forever.
	Got it.
	And she's on the line.
	Miss Regan.
	Hello, Sebastian.
	How are you?
	Good.
	How are we doing?
	Very good.
	Very good.
	Good.
	I want to talk a little bit about the convoy.
	What's on your front burner?
	Oh, you mean the truckers?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, we can certainly talk about them.
	You know, I'm disturbed DHS is out talking about misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, saying that it can lead to terrorism.
	So it feels to me a little bit of the same old repeat of, if we don't like your information, you know, you're a terrorist.
	I mean, it just feels pretty extraordinary.
	I know, Sebastian.
	and well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Welcome back.
	This is America First, coming to you live from TheReliefFactor.com studios, just outside the insalubrious, ever-fetid swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	It's that time of the week we have to go to our market maven, Trish Reagan.
	She is one of the newest members of the Salem stable.
	Check out her website, TrishIntel.com and The Trish Intel Reagan Show.
	Listen to her podcast.
	Educate yourself.
	Understand the threats the economy faces.
	Mostly coming from the White House.
	Trish, welcome back to America First.
	Oh, it's good to be here, as always, as you said.
	Trish, are you excited?
	I mean, I think the latest thing I saw from Canada is after the police confiscated all the jerrycans, there's a video of the citizens of the capital taking jerrycans of diesel to the truckers.
	Do you feel good?
	Is the Canadian environment, is that a message for Americans?
	Look, I mean, Canada's a different place and a different country, but it's aligned with us, right, in terms of its most basic principles.
	And we share, I think, so much culturally with Canada.
	And part of that is the right to peacefully protest.
	Right, this isn't China, we're talking about this is Canada.
	And the fact that there was this clampdown on a peaceful protest, and you know those truckers have every right to be out there.
	They're having their living completely interfered with, really debilitated, right, by government.
	Overreach.
	And so they wanted to make their voices heard.
	And the idea that, I mean, for goodness sakes, GoFundMe would say, well, we're going to redistribute the funds until Ron DeSantis was like, hey, wait a second.
	That's sort of fraudulent, right?
	I mean, this idea that somehow the government could interject itself and convince A company like GoFundMe, no, you can't use that money.
	I mean, I've just been so disheartened by the whole thing, but what it speaks to, I think, Seb, is this overreach that's happening sort of everywhere.
	People are panicked.
	Governments are panicked because they're trying to force feed a narrative.
	And when people don't buy it, when they don't just lap it up, when they question anything, and by the way, we kind of have You know, the ability to do that, right?
	Because we're talking online and on social media.
	Well, then the higher-ups...
	They go bonkers and try and squelch it.
	And you know what I'll tell you, Seb?
	The problem with that is it just creates more mistrust, right?
	You're going to trust your government less.
	That's a perfect, perfect comment for the story I want to read to you.
	This is from Matt Palumbo at Bongino.com.
	This is the latest.
	It's two days old.
	It is the latest DHS, Department of Homeland Security, terrorism alert.
	And I'm reading from the government alert.
	The United States remains in a heightened threat environment, not because of terrorism, Trish.
	Here we go.
	Fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories and other forms of mis, dis and mal information introduced and or amplified by foreign and dis and mal information introduced and or amplified by foreign and domestic threat
	Trish, I would put the White House, I would put Jen Psaki and Fauci as some of the key perpetrators of that mal dis and mal information.
	It's whatever information they decide to spoon feed us on any given day.
	You know, one day you need masks, the next day you don't.
	One day the vaccines will absolutely ensure you never get COVID, the next day, oh not the case.
	I mean, it's whatever seems to serve their purpose in the given moment.
	And that's where people say, OK, enough.
	OK, enough.
	And so, you know, now they've ratcheted it up.
	I actually led my podcast today with that story.
	And then, in fact, a few weeks ago, when Mayorkas, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, made that announcement, was also covering that because he said a few weeks ago, he told Bloomberg, you know what, we can do something at DHS about all this misinformation.
	So he was alluding to it several weeks ago.
	Now they've come out with this statement.
	You get the picture?
	We get elections coming up.
	And, you know, it's our way or the highway.
	If you don't agree with us, you're not going to be just labeled anti-science.
	You could possibly be labeled a domestic terrorist.
	Now, I don't even like saying those words.
	Like it kind of just makes me cringe to say that.
	But this is what a scary environment we're in right now.
	You don't have the right to an opinion.
	You don't have your right to think through and speak your mind because it could potentially, if it's at odds with them, it could potentially be viewed as a kind of terrorism.
	I mean, that doesn't seem right to me.
	And do you think enough is being... I mean, how worried are you that we're going to see what happened again last year when half a billion dollars was dropped by one person, by Mark Zuckerberg, on the election to try and privatize it?
	Did you see the establishment, the conservative establishment, doing enough to make sure that that large-scale management of information doesn't occur by the left's masters of Silicon Valley?
	Well, I worry it will happen again.
	I mean, look, George Soros just announced $125 million he's putting into his PAC, his super PAC.
	I mean, we've got to get the money out of politics, right?
	We've got to put this back in the hands of the people, not, you know, the elite that are trying to control all of this.
	I mean, that's what's just so truly disturbing.
	And then when you do, right, you try and put it in the hands of the people through vehicles like GoFundMe.
	And then the Canadian police come in and say, oh, no, no, they tell GoFundMe, wait a second, this is like possible terrorism.
	OK, so then we've got to, you know, redistribute the funds.
	This is crazy.
	I mean, I know they've reversed that decision since then because of the backlash.
	But the reality is there's a lot of odds stacked against everyday Americans right now.
	And I think it's really important that people just be aware.
	It's a scary time.
	Look, you've lived in a scary place, right?
	I've only grown up.
	In America and the America I see now and the trajectory we're on doesn't resemble anything compared to, you know, what we were taught.
	I mean, look at the AP reporter, Seth, right?
	Associated Press, who was like, whoa, guys, when the Pentagon or the State Department was trying to feed him this, well, you know, Russia's got this tape.
	I mean, they do, right?
	You know, Vladimir Putin, former KGB, I wouldn't put it past him, but we ought to be able to ask the question, well, how can you prove that?
	Where's the evidence?
	Where's the evidence?
	Matt Lee did his job.
	I mean, he's always been a troublemaker in those briefings.
	But what did Ned Price say?
	Just trust me, read the transcript of the thing I just told you.
	It's an outrage.
	They stole, let's be clear here what Trish said, they stole $10 million from the truckers.
	That's GoFundMe.
	I have good news for you guys, in part because of those who've donated.
	The GiveSendGo account is now up after three days to seven million dollars.
	So, guys, please support the truckers.
	GiveSendGo.com slash Freedom Convoy 2022.
	That's GiveSendGo.com slash Freedom Convoy 2022.
	Let's break the 10 million record.
	In the meantime, follow Trish Regan at Trish underscore Regan, TrishIntel.com and the Trish Regan Show.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Trish.
	I've got to tell you guys, there's a full-scale assault on the truth.
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	Mic's back on.
	Mic's back on.
	Okay.
	Can you play cutting?
	Cut 8.
	I've been very vocal about it.
	I've been vocal, too, even on your program a few months back about the death of Ashley Babbitt and questioning why Lieutenant Byrd's investigation did not go to a grand jury.
	So this really doesn't surprise me, quite honestly.
	I'm being targeted right now, and I believe that Nancy Pelosi is weaponizing the U.S.
	Capitol Police to investigate me, to try to silence me, intimidate me, and, quite honestly, to destroy me.
	Wow.
	He doesn't sound like he's from Texas.
	No.
	He's coming on tomorrow.
	Great.
	What about that woman who's been going on, um, Dennis Prager, that Harvard student?
	Let me check if she responded.
	I was trying to get her for a one-on-one Monday.
	Yeah.
	Dr. G is in the house on America First.
	It's okay, guys.
	Relax, relax.
	The Pentagon is on the case.
	Russia may be about to invade Ukraine.
	China may be about to invade Taiwan.
	North Korea is firing ballistic missiles over the Sea of Japan.
	But the Army has released its first climate strategy with a goal for the Army to reach net zero greenhouse emissions By 2050.
	Yeah, I'm sure the Russians and the Chinese will be right there with us.
	This is from Ellie Kaufman.
	The U.S.
	Army released its first climate strategy on Tuesday with goals to reduce the Army's greenhouse gas pollution by 50 percent by 2030 and attain net zero emissions by 2050.
	The Army plans to meet these goals by increasing fuel efficiency, making more Army vehicles electric.
	I'm I can just see we go to war and our batteries run down on day two and we'll just say, guys, we'll just wait a bit.
	Can we put our solar panels out and just wait?
	I mean, you know, the Russian artillery fusillade will just have to be delayed.
	According to the Secretary of the Army, Christine Wormuth, climate change threatens America's security and is altering geostrategic landscapes as we know it.
	In comparison to 120,000 troops on the border of Ukraine, in comparison to a China that has built mile-long fake atolls in the South China Sea to create lily pads for strategic bombers, as Russia is using cyber to attack NATO nations such as the Baltic states,
	As the mullahs in Iran are still profiting from the original JCPOA Iran deal of Obama that released $140 billion with a B dollars to that murderous regime, as this regime, as the Biden administration, is trying
	To revivify, to resurrect that deal, to make it even easier for the Iranians to access the funds they need to fully go nuclear.
	It's okay.
	We'll be using Priuses for our combat vehicles.
	Sheer insanity.
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	Doesn't have to be a big, sexy title, even if it's just the local school board.
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	The End
	It's a really nice day here in the swamp. - Thank you.
	That's good.
	Yeah, we've got like, it's gonna be 90 by the Super Bowl on Sunday.
	Nice, it's 30 degrees out here.
	Where everyone is coming.
	What?
	You like this weather?
	I love it!
	Today was perfect!
	It's 30 degrees!
	What?
	It's 30 degrees outside.
	It felt like it was a summer's day for me.
	It was sunny.
	Where do you come from?
	Antarctica?
	England.
	Where do you come from?
	England.
	I hate the cold weather.
	It says 55 outside right now.
	I can tolerate it.
	Was it cold today, John?
	55 degrees.
	Did you sit outside?
	Yeah, I sat out.
	I did one of my interviews outside in the garden sitting on a bench today on my radio interview.
	Well, that's lovely.
	Yeah.
	It was pretty nice weather.
	It was.
	It's not as cold as it has been over the last couple of weeks.
	You're not a snowflake, are you?
	What's wrong?
	No, I hate the cold.
	I hate it.
	It's not fun.
	There's nothing enjoyable about it.
	Remember, he hates snow.
	Yeah, snow, cold, the short days.
	Who is this?
	I hate the one.
	He's Bahamas Jeff, so you know.
	Where did you just go to Bahamas, right?
	No, Jamaica.
	Jamaica, that's right.
	Jamaica Jeff.
	There's the alliteration.
	Jamaica Mom.
	Sort of.
	Oh, yeah.
	I personally prefer warmer weather, but... In 43 days to Hawaii.
	You're going to Hawaii after Jamaica?
	Yes.
	I want your life.
	Boy, oh boy.
	Biden inflation.
	I've got nothing planned but the Unite IE Conservative Conference and speaking engagements in Colorado to see my grandpa.
	Gotta get a vacation on that map.
	Whew.
	I love the stories you've sent today.
	The chocolate milk.
	Aren't they great?
	And the nun!
	We'll talk about the nun and the chocolate milk for sure.
	She's my favorite.
	Okay.
	Alright, I'm going to play you a long cut from an insane Showtime documentary, okay?
	Okay, cool.
	Alright.
	That trailer, man.
	What's it for?
	I want to surprise you with it.
	Yeah, it's worth waiting for.
	It's part of the uniting the country.
	Oh, obviously.
	How was the trip to L.A.?
	Was it fun?
	Quick?
	Oh, Bloody Red Eye is what it was, but it was mind-blowing.
	So we hide a room in a hotel, it was actually a bar, a very nice bar, set up a big film studio, and it was me, Dennis, Charlie, Larry, Taxis, and they filmed us reacting to the evidence of the 2,000 ballot-harvesting mules that Dinesh's Colleagues gathered.
	It's geolocating data from the mules phones that they commercially bought and foyered footage of all the ballot harvesting boxes.
	It's just stunning.
	I did the math in the studio, in the setup, just where they picked.
	They just geofenced a handful of locations in key battleground states.
	Just the locations they Looked at, which was less than 5% of the election.
	They have the evidence of over 200,000 harvested ballots.
	Wow.
	I love the idea of showing it to you, though, for the first time and then getting your reaction from it.
	That's really, really cool.
	That was Phil Boyce.
	That was Phil Boyce.
	Yeah, that's really cool.
	So it'll be out in April.
	So I think it's going to be big.
	Big, big, big.
	That's awesome.
	And then I'm going back on Friday for my son's birthday.
	Oh, how exciting!
	What day is his birthday?
	It was yesterday.
	Oh, that's okay, so mine's the 6th.
	Oh no, that's right!
	Belated happy birthday!
	Thank you!
	Who showed up?
	Any fans show up at your house this time?
	Thank God not this year, Jeff!
	I don't know what made last year so special, but yeah.
	Thankfully I was able to lay low.
	It was a Sunday.
	No one really knew.
	You know, it was just quiet.
	It was good.
	No surprise signs.
	All right, 40 seconds.
	Oh boy, what do we do?
	I don't know.
	Maybe... Have you done this radio thing before?
	Okay, so we put the microphone on, and the headphones go on.
	Headphones, yes.
	We're not looking at you guys today.
	I feel... Where are you?
	Well, we've got some Super Bowl stuff going on in the main studio, so I'm actually in our closet studio, so... Oh, sounds good.
	Sounds good.
	Yeah, no, it's all... The connection sounds good.
	Fred Dreyer will be in in a bit.
	Say hi to Fred!
	Well, you know, because he's a Ram, so it's a big weekend for him.
	Big, big, big.
	Yeah.
	Stand by.
	10 seconds.
	From the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Do I do it?
	Do I sing happy birthday to three million people?
	Or do I just say... Go ahead.
	Make my day.
	Let's make her day.
	She is the West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horne.
	Happy belated birthday to you.
	Well, thank you.
	I was looking forward to a song, but you know what?
	That's okay, punk.
	You made my day.
	I've got to work up to that.
	I've got to work up to that.
	Did you celebrate in style?
	Did you get your sparkly mask on and paint the town red?
	I actually wore no mask this weekend.
	That was my birthday present to myself.
	Again, a lot of fun.
	You know, we just did a small dinner at my dad's house, just family.
	But the weekend before, I think you and I had a little chat, I was in Paso Robles.
	So I went up to Central Coast and rented a house and relaxed for a few days.
	It was really nice.
	You deserve it.
	Literally the hardest working lady in radio.
	Host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	Also crntalk.com.
	Follow her right now at Jennifer Horne.
	We want to talk about some fun stories, but I've mentioned masks already.
	What is going on in California?
	Because there seems to be lots of schizophrenia with the masks, the inside dining, but then it doesn't apply to children and schooling.
	What's going on?
	Well, we're going to have to find, you almost need to have like a chart so that you can keep track of all the rules because California this week, first of all, you know that this had a lot to do with Gavin Newsom getting caught at the NFC Championship game.
	But he didn't exhale, right?
	Well, that was Eric Garcetti.
	He was holding his breath because apparently, and he said this is the science.
	If you hold your breath, there is a zero chance of transmission.
	So when he takes pictures, he takes his mask off, he holds his breath.
	Zero chance of transmission, according to the scientists.
	And taking the mask off with an ungloved hand maintains the sterility of the mask.
	That's also science too, Jennifer.
	Did you know that?
	Absolutely.
	And it makes your hands sterile.
	If you're a Democrat, your mask is always sterile, especially when you're taking it on and off.
	It's magic!
	So you had that with Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles.
	Mayor London Breed from San Francisco gets caught maskless.
	Gavin Newsom gets caught without a mask and his excuse was, it was in my hand.
	It was in my hand.
	I just put it in my hand for a second.
	Well, now all of a sudden they followed the science after that hypocrisy to change the rules.
	So in California, starting the 15th, you don't have to wear masks indoors, meaning you don't have to go to the gym.
	With a mask, you don't have to go to the movie theaters or to a store with a mask.
	However, he leaves it up to the counties to make their own decisions.
	So most of free California will be without masks next week.
	But of course, where I live in LA County, it's much more dangerous here.
	So we're going to keep the masks on.
	There's lots more Los Angeles COVID.
	Absolutely.
	More COVID in Los Angeles and there's more COVID for kids, which against the science, or I mean, maybe we're following this new kind of crazy science, it's safer for you to go to Home Depot, safer for you to go to a Dodger game than for a child to go to school.
	Because all throughout California, even though he's lifting the mask mandates for adults, he's leaving it on kids in school.
	They all have to be masked.
	That's got to be the unions, Jen.
	Am I right?
	It has to be the unions.
	They say that there's going to be some changes, but if you really want to be appalled, the LA Unified School District is not only requiring kids to wear masks indoors, but they have to wear N95 masks, not even the cloth ones, N95 masks or surgical masks outdoors for recess and for lunch.
	Is there nobody pushing back like there is in Virginia?
	I don't know if parents are saying, no, no, no, no, not doing this, sorry, not happening.
	And isn't it amazing how they were throwing tomatoes, literally, at Glenn Youngkin when he said he wanted to unmask kids, and now Phil Murphy and Gavin Newsom are changing the rules, and they're just following the science.
	Right.
	I think it is partly the unions, and there is some pushback.
	There's a couple of school districts, actually one in Luverne, which is a suburb of Los Angeles, the Bonita School District, a few others in the Inland Empire, where parents are coming to school.
	The straw that broke the camel's back are the pictures from that NFC Championship game.
	They're saying, if Gavin Newsom can take pictures, well then there must not be a crisis and we need to unmask our kids.
	And they've actually been having protests pop up in small school districts all throughout Southern California and hopefully that pushback will start to work and resonate.
	Well, something better, something better.
	Let's go to the stories you sent us.
	Let's stay with the schools.
	Is there a victory when it comes to yummy, yummy chocolate-flavored drinks in California?
	I love these kids.
	So, in the line of holding protests, right, peaceful protests to make change, there was a school, a small school district up in Northern California, and apparently they decided to take chocolate milk off of the menu.
	Because it's too yummy?
	Too yummy.
	Who knows why they took it off the menu.
	And so the kids were very upset about it.
	And they decided to organize together this fourth grade class.
	And they said, you know what?
	We want to protest.
	We're going to protest to get our chocolate milk back.
	Now, the teachers looked at this, God love them, as an opportunity to teach kids about mediation and striking deals and about peaceful protest.
	And so they had a mediator come in between the school district and the kids.
	Hang on, hang on.
	These are joking, right?
	Well, I mean it was kind of just for the classroom sake, not a real mediator.
	It was a simulated mediation over chocolate milk.
	Yeah, they came in and worked it out and so now they're only going to get chocolate milk.
	Was there a picket line?
	Were there black leg picket breakers?
	They were holding line and then Antifa showed up and they were very upset over the chocolate milk.
	But the cool thing is that the kids learned how this worked and ultimately they came to an agreement.
	I don't think it's good enough.
	I think they need me to get in there and do some collective bargaining for them.
	But they're getting chocolate milk every other week now, once a week.
	So at least it's back to some extent.
	There was a small victory.
	Lord preserve us.
	Okay, let's talk about something perhaps a little bit more serious.
	So you know me, I'm a cradle Catholic and I went to, before I started at the Benedictines, I was 14 years, no 13 years with the Benedictines at Ealing Abbey.
	I spent a year with Mother Superior and the nuns in a little preschool.
	Mother Margarita was the head superior.
	And they were serious ladies.
	They never taught me how to write nicely.
	My cursive never, never, never got to what it should be.
	But I miss the nuns.
	I think they shaped me to a certain degree in that year.
	But you have a story about the kind of nun we don't need in the Catholic faith.
	I don't know, this lady makes me laugh, even though she's a hardened criminal.
	And before we jump into her story, you know what happens when, or you know what you get when you put a nun in a blender?
	I do not know what you get when you put a nun in a blender.
	Twisted Sister.
	Oh my God, that's a bad joke.
	You're an 80s music fan, come on!
	That's a bad joke.
	That's good, carry on.
	All right, so I went to Catholic school, too, 12 years, from first grade all the way through to 12th grade, and I had my share of nuns teaching me.
	So this story is out of Torrance, California, right by the beach in Southern California.
	St.
	James is the parish there and the school.
	They had an elementary school attached to it.
	A nun, Sister Mary Margaret, is now a hardened criminal serving hard time because she embezzled $835,000 in school money to support her gambling habits.
	Oh my gosh.
	She's 80 years old, pleaded guilty last July to federal wire charges and to money laundering.
	Prosecutors were looking to give her a 24-month prison sentence with three years of supervised release.
	Imagine that, an ankle bracelet for Sister Mary Margaret.
	But she said that she had a mental condition.
	She had a mental condition that forced her to do this.
	God love Sister Mary Margaret.
	I don't know if I believe her because she got caught.
	She was stealing money, incrementally, tuition money from the St.
	James families, and she'd put them into a little fund, and then she'd take it to Lake Tahoe, she'd take it to Temecula, she'd take it to Las Vegas, and she'd go and do her gambling.
	And when the feds showed up... Would she be undercover?
	Well, you know, they did send the black and white to come and get her.
	Oh no!
	These jokes are getting worse!
	I know they're puns, but they're fun.
	Anyway, so she says she has this condition that was forcing her to act this way, but when the police showed up to start investigating her, she ordered her staff to destroy the evidence.
	Now, if Sister Mary Margaret starts shredding documents, I don't know if that means she has a mental condition or if she knows how to hide her crimes.
	So how much hard time is Sister Mary going to do?
	She's getting a year, which by the way- $800,000?
	That's exactly what I said.
	That's really not that much for $800,000.
	Wow.
	And, but it's yet more than most hardened criminals in Los Angeles get from George Gascon, the district attorney.
	If she had been, I'll tell you one thing, Jennifer Horne, if she had been a member of BLM, that she would have walked out there with a free crack pipe.
	I know that.
	Absolutely.
	Free crack pipe.
	Absolutely.
	A free gift.
	She's Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, also crntalk.com.
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	The American Pronunciation Guide Presents "How to Pronounce The Black" I think somebody had tipped her off.
	I think tipped him off that there was money missing.
	She had two separate accounts, and so the Fed started monitoring her bank accounts and saw that she was putting money into her private one that she'd take to Tahoe and Vegas.
	Okay, here's the question.
	Here's the question.
	How long, how many months before this becomes a movie?
	Oh, isn't it great?
	I know, and it absolutely needs to be Netflix off the air.
	You know it, right?
	You know it.
	Yeah, it's Sister, what was it?
	Sister Act Part 7, or however many they've done.
	At least she'll switch out one black and white outfit for another one.
	Well, and the other crazy story is that Jose Wazer, the other one I sent you, the city council guy, who was busted.
	He had like bags of cash in his closet when the FBI came and raided his house.
	He was taking money and he was laundering them through casinos in Vegas.
	So this Chinese guy who wanted to build a 77-story building in downtown L.A.
	Would send for him on the private jet from the casinos because he would lose like 13 million bucks, like at a crack, and so they would give him the use of their jet.
	So he would fly back and forth on the plane for the Palazzo on the Strip, pick up Jose Huizar, take him to the penthouse, the presidential suite, give him money, and then he'd cash out chips.
	And then he'd cash out chips and he wouldn't have to declare anything.
	Never filled out his disclosure form.
	And so it was easy for the Palazzo to see what's going on.
	So they turned on the FBI.
	And that's how, I mean, imagine that's a plot for a movie.
	Yeah.
	Laundering money to politicians from China through a casino.
	I mean.
	Crazy.
	It's great.
	It's great.
	All right, I'm going to show you this promo for this movie.
	Oh boy.
	And then we will analyze.
	It's show time.
	So you're going to be in the Bay Area this weekend?
	Yes, we are.
	We're treating our kids, dinners and things like that.
	That'll be fun.
	Yeah, reconnecting.
	And your daughter's still up.
	She's still there, right?
	She's there, but I think she's had enough with the downtown.
	She's done.
	Gotcha.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	- Yeah, yeah. - 100 seconds. - 100 seconds.
	Now, I always hate to break the news to you because I always think they just assume you're coming before they actually tell you, but I was told today that you're going to be at our Unite IE conference.
	Is that happening?
	I always love that.
	I don't know.
	I know Katie got some requests to handle.
	Oh, that's good.
	Is that October or what is that?
	Well, there's a town hall in October.
	That's in LA.
	But the Inland Empire one is happening on, they just told me today, April 10th.
	All right.
	Let me see if it's in my email.
	I think it is.
	I said, oh, who's going to be there?
	What's up, Gorka?
	And I went, I wonder if he knows that.
	I know they like to book you and then tell you later.
	Is that Jazz who organized it?
	Oh, no, because you lost the woman who organized it for you guys.
	Pamela.
	Yeah, Darla's the new person.
	Darla, okay.
	Here we go, here we go.
	No, the last thing I have from her is last September.
	So she needs to get busy.
	Gotta get on it!
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	We are back with Jennifer Horne.
	She is now going to listen with you, dear listeners, to a promotional video for a film from Showtime.
	It is a documentary Um, you haven't seen it, Jen, but I need you to have a fresh reaction to it, because I don't understand.
	The woke industry seems to just want to get woker and woker, and this is the way that they are going to bring us all together.
	Cut five.
	I think what annoys me most about white people is when they pretend like they're the victim.
	What's also annoying is when they, you know, when they kill us.
	What is fragile about whiteness when everything has been constructed around it?
	Every part of who I am has been distorted or criminalized.
	It's really just a bunch of white lies.
	We're storming the Capitol!
	You're not patriots, you're ridiculous.
	One of the definitions of American whiteness is ignorance.
	White people, we are not your problem.
	You are.
	Should white people today feel any responsibility for slavery?
	Hell yeah.
	White Jesus or black Jesus?
	Jesus was not white.
	Think of geography.
	Ain't no way Jesus walked around with blonde hair and blue eyes.
	White culture fears the end of the world.
	For us as native people, the end of the world already happened, like, multiple times.
	Symbols and monuments.
	These are mementos of racism.
	Bring that back to that.
	They're not monuments.
	They are mementos of racism.
	The individuals you may not have recognized by their voice include one Linda Sarsour, one of the most rank anti-Semites in America.
	I don't know if you have a subscription to Showtime, Jennifer Horn, but as a business model, do you think a documentary on the problem in America is white people is a good move?
	No, I think it just, it obviously just adds to our division.
	I'm so glad I don't have Showtime.
	I'm an HBO girl, I'll be happy to say right now.
	But, you know, this is, as I was listening to that, it just, it sunk into me yesterday.
	I was driving around.
	It's funny to have this conversation.
	Because I was driving around and when I do in my car I constantly am plunking around through AM radio just to hear what people are talking about and then I go over to satellite and part of my bouncing through on satellite is I listen to some of the cable shows that I don't normally listen to.
	Primarily CNN and MSNBC and of course I like to play the bingo game to see what is being talked about.
	And CNN and MSNBC, if anybody watched, and not many people do, spent all of yesterday talking about how the archives that Donald Trump stole from the White House had to be seized because he was trying to steal belongings of the American people.
	Oh, the documents at Mar-a-Lago.
	This was, these were mementos of the president that he took with him.
	Maybe he didn't even know he was supposed to leave him behind.
	In any case, there were letters from Kim Jong-un.
	There was letters from President Obama.
	He took letters home, mementos of his presidency.
	He took with him back to Mar-a-Lago.
	And you would have thought that he stole a diamond from, like, the most valuable diamond on the planet.
	Now, these are things that are important to our history.
	I get it.
	But the way they were positioning this, I mean, there was no dramatic Entrance but like flash bombs at Mar-a-Lago by the FBI trying to go in and recover these documents President Trump didn't have a military to try to protect these documents when they asked for them.
	He handed him over That's the real story.
	But yet if you listen to MSNBC and you listen to CNN, it was like almost a war They called it a seizure.
	They called it, you know that they had to go in and demand these documents and What's really dangerous about that?
	Is that people then start to believe that kind of thing is fact.
	I had an argument today with someone who knows me very well and I actually, I felt like triggered.
	I never will tell you that word, but somebody said, you know, I was watching Bill Maher last night.
	He just can't understand why people kiss the ring and they're part of the Trump cult.
	But I can't even ask you about that because you're one of them.
	Yeah.
	Or just putting it into context, I mean, what do we actually have in terms of theft from the White House?
	We have the furniture, we have the China services that the Clintons actually stole from the White House.
	And don't forget, you know, Sandy Berger.
	Do you remember Sandy Berger?
	Sandy Berger, the Clinton flunky who went into the archive to steal classified documents that embarrassed his boss and stuffed them in his socks and his underwear to take them out of the archives and then destroy them, Jennifer.
	I'm not sure you would have had similar coverage of that had you been jumping on the stations way back when.
	Well, and the point is, all of this stuff is set up to marginalize and silence people.
	The same thing with this conversation about race, about all white people trying to kill black people, all white people trying to prevent black people from voting, all white people needing to feel guilty about slavery.
	Do we need to be honest about our country's history?
	Absolutely.
	I'm a huge advocate for that.
	Just tell the story, the good and the bad.
	of our country.
	But let's stop with the oppressor or the oppressed.
	Let's stop with trying to guilt people into certain actions because this is all about control.
	It's all about creating chaos and it's about silencing the other side.
	It's very much what happened to Joe Rogan this week.
	There is footage of our current president saying the N-word on tape.
	Yeah.
	And yet we're wasting-- Or Howard Stern using the N-word in blackface, Jen.
	Or Justin Trudeau wearing what he liked to call his dark brown face because he was yucking it up at an Arabian Nights party.
	I don't have this stuff in my background, but yet all the people who are the loudest about trying to silence everybody else just for expressing a free thought Those are the people that you have to be wary of.
	And it really does, when I listen to that, it makes me so angry because you have a whole group of kids, black, white, name the color, that are listening to programs like the one that's going to air on Showtime that are garbage.
	And those people are going to be ashamed if they're white.
	They're going to feel victimized if they are black.
	How is that healthy for the country?
	And so then you have to think there's real evil at play here.
	Because it goes to what you said at the beginning.
	What is the end game?
	If you listen to that ad, if you listen to the BLM mouth boxes, what do they call themselves?
	Trained Marxists.
	The end state isn't some bringing together.
	The end state isn't some kind of Resolution.
	It is to perpetuate the grievance.
	It is to exacerbate the tension.
	And it is to actually exert power on those who have a different shade of skin, Jennifer.
	Absolutely.
	It sounds silly, but, you know, I watch terrible reality shows kind of as junk food as a break, you know, for my brain at the end of the night.
	And my mom and I were watching Celebrity Big Brother is on, and we were listening to Lamar Odom, who literally was saying how racist America is, that he's still proud to stand up for this country, but it's a racist country and that white cops are targeting black men.
	Let's just have the figures out there, guys.
	19 unarmed black individuals shot in a nation of 320 million.
	How many cops were killed?
	On the beat, the highest figures in 30 years.
	That's because of this division that is being stoked by the left, not by conservatives, not by white supremacists, but by the radical leftists.
	Follow her right now at Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	God bless you, Jen, and a belated happy birthday.
	Your call's next.
	833-33-GORKA.
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	The End
	Note, have a safe trip.
	Have a fun trip.
	Happy birthday to your son.
	Thank you and tell us, tell...
	If you talk to the Inland Empire people to reach out.
	I'll say, hey, before you start promoting, you may want to clear your talent first.
	And last week was fun.
	We had a good time.
	Thank you for that.
	It was fun to be in the video studio, too.
	That was great.
	We'll belated happy birthday to you.
	Thank you, John.
	I'll talk to you guys later.
	Bye.
	Bye now.
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	Love too, by the way, how the trailer for a documentary about how terrible white people are is using music, some of the most iconic classical music in white companies.
	Yes, yeah, I had that thought as well.
	What?
	Titles.
	I know you asked Trish.
	What do you need?
	Just Horn and Trish.
	Okay.
	And the pre-record.
	Horn.
	Oh, you gave me the pre-record.
	I'm sorry.
	something about that documentary Thank you.
	Thank you.
	What's the name of that Dr. Macquarie?
	What's his first name?
	Marty Macquarie?
	Marty, right.
	Oh, he's British American.
	I didn't know that.
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	Herb, California, line 2.
	Yes, hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Yes, I'm just calling.
	I'm, you know, I'm a big fan of yours, but with regard to the masks and how well they work and filtering our virus, you just made a mistake, you're factually wrong.
	Masks are not sifts, they are filters.
	And one of the main ways that a good mask works, it has a layer called the melt blown layer, which works by electrostatic attraction.
	No, no, no.
	Stop, Herb.
	You're talking rubbish.
	Most Americans... No, I'm not.
	You've got to stop.
	You've got to stop.
	Let me finish.
	No, no.
	I'm not going to let you finish because you are pumping propaganda.
	Melt and layer.
	Most people wear masks they buy at 7-Eleven with nice colours.
	They don't have any melt and layer.
	It's a piece of cloth.
	You're making stuff up.
	I am talking about the way people use masks.
	It's irrelevant.
	It's absolutely... And I'm talking... I did that monologue based upon what... No, no, stop, Herb.
	Herb, you stop now.
	Okay?
	I am quoting the figures.
	for micropores in N95s in regular cloth masks in respirators from none other than Dr. Martin Macquarie of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.
	So unless you've got better qualifications than him, and unless you can magically tell me that the majority of cloth masks Americans wear are not, are not able to do what you think they are doing, then you are making stuff up.
	Okay, so I agree with you.
	Cloth masks are not good.
	That's what people are wearing, Herb.
	They need to get better masks.
	No, they don't!
	You moron!
	You cretin!
	What is the mortality rate for children from COVID?
	Tell me now.
	You're changing the subject.
	No, I'm not changing the subject.
	I'm just talking about whether masks work.
	That's why they are masks.
	Right, Herb?
	What is the mortality rate?
	They've been shown to work in the labs.
	Absolutely incorrect!
	Absolutely, utterly incorrect.
	The studies from Europe, the studies from Israel say you have the same infection rate.
	No, Herb, you're a cretin.
	You're a moron.
	You're a propagandist.
	You should get a job on CNN.
	You want to have children masked, don't you, Herb?
	Don't you, Herb?
	Don't you?
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question, Herb.
	Do you want children masked?
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question.
	Do you want children... No.
	No.
	Answer the question.
	I'm going to let you one, one more second.
	Do you want children masked?
	Do you want... Answer the question.
	Do you want children masks?
	Answer the question.
	I had... I had the inventor of the mRNA vaccine who's got more credentials than you will ever have for an hour on this show.
	No.
	Herb.
	Herb.
	Oh really?
	So, okay, what is the pour rate on an N95?
	What is it?
	What's the rate of a mask?
	What is the pour rate?
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question in microns now.
	The pour is bigger than the virus particle, but it works by another mechanism.
	Bingo, you're making facts up.
	That's not science.
	Not science.
	Get rid of him.
	Get rid of him.
	I'm angry, but I'm also... That man is why.
	Why we will have a generation of children who will be psychologically deficient, who will not be able to communicate and relate properly to their fellow human beings in their own generation because of propagandists Cowards like Herb!
	Making stuff up to justify the loss of humanity and the rights of our children.
	How dare you?
	How dare you make it worse?
	We've suffered enough and you want to make it worse.
	Well, not on my watch.
	Not with my children.
	Not with my family.
	And hopefully not with most of America.
	Be like the truckers, America.
	Take back your freedoms.
	Never, ever let that man back on our show again.
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	- Jeff says we need more callers like that. - As long as you're gonna play for my heart surgery.
	Oh, man.
	Um, oh, so is he calling us?
	A mask is a melting layer.
	I'll give you a frickin' melting layer.
	Nobody's wearing those anyway.
	No.
	Maybe around here in D.C.
	I see more of them than I thought I should, but like, yeah, not in general.
	You see what?
	N95 masks.
	Like, more than you would expect.
	But the cases have dropped off since they started doing the masks, remember?
	Back in May of 2020, remember how much the cases went down?
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to think what country it was.
	It was, I think, was it an Asian country?
	The only study you need, it started here in May of 2020.
	We've had how many outbreaks since then?
	Right.
	No, but there was a study where they actually, they studied rates of infection between people who are fully masked and people who never were masked.
	There's no difference.
	There's no difference.
	But if you talk to a nurse that has to wear a proper mask, like an N95, they are fitted to your face every year.
	You have to go in to get them fitted, right?
	So someone in the rubble chat says they're professionally fitted.
	Right, they're professionally fitted.
	And the second you touch it with a naked hand, boom.
	That's why there was such a shortage in the beginning.
	Right, that's why we didn't need them, according to Fauci.
	And they're not just wearing masks, they're wearing all that other stuff.
	Face shields.
	It's like they're ready to walk on the moon.
	I feel like that's just beside the point.
	It's not dangerous enough to warrant the use of masks.
	It's a bad mild cold, on average.
	Is he calling us?
	Yeah, I just asked if he's calling us.
	45 seconds.
	All right.
	35.
	Just relief here.
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	All right. 35. 35.
	Just relief here.
	Okay.
	Yep.
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	What kind of radio is that, Jeff?
	Good.
	As long as you pay for the cardiac surgery afterwards.
	We are waiting to connect with Louie Gohmert.
	In the meantime, let's listen to another science denier.
	We have an answer now for why there are skyrocketing carjackings in places like Chicago and D.C.
	This is Laurie Lightfoot, the mayor of the Windy City Cut 4.
	We started seeing this rise in cases in 2020 and I'll be frank and say in Chicago there was a correlation that we believe between remote learning and and the rise in carjacking.
	Having talked to state's attorneys who were dealing with these cases in juvenile court and others, a lot of parents went to work during the day thinking their teenagers were logged on for remote learning, only to find something else.
	And I asked, you know, is there some new market for stolen cars?
	And unfortunately, the answer was no, that for many of these kids, some of whom had no prior involvement in the criminal justice system, this was pure boredom.
	There you have it!
	It's remote learning, that's why you carjack.
	My son had remote learning for over a year.
	Strange!
	Never went out carjacking!
	So peculiar!
	But hey, it's the science.
	Let's ask Aaron.
	He's a man who lives in the real world.
	Line to Aaron.
	It's carjacking and remote learning.
	Did you catch that?
	I think that's one of those ones that says correlation doesn't equal causation.
	Is that how that goes?
	You sound so fancy-lardy-dar with your graduate school language there.
	Are you questioning the concept that boredom makes people automatically carjack, Aaron?
	Well, I have other ways to solve boredom and going to the range of being productive with my accuracy would be one of them.
	Chopping wood!
	Chopping wood!
	Going to the range!
	Good, alright.
	What brings you to our shows today?
	So hopefully Don is listening.
	I'm going to do my best in response to whoever Herbie Derby was, the last caller.
	Marcus Aurelius.
	It is not death that a man should fear, but it is beginning not to live.
	And science doesn't happen in a vacuum, because human life has so many more characteristics to it than just data.
	And he just, you know, he triggered me in the worst sense because I know where he was going.
	He was going to say, this kind of mask works, which means what, Aaron?
	He wants everybody re-masked in worse masks that make it even harder to breathe.
	triggered me in the worst sense because I know where he was going.
	He was going to say, this kind of mask works, which means what, Aaron?
	He wants everybody re-masked in worse masks that make it even harder to breathe.
	That's what he would have wanted.
	That's Herb's vision of the future.
	Just like Orwell said, the vision of the future is a boot stomping on a human face forever.
	In his case, for Herb, it's a face with a mask on it.
	Absolutely.
	And the Yuri Bezunov quote from the 80s is, I can take the man to a concentration camp and show him, but he won't understand until the boot has hit the back of his head.
	And only then will he understand, but then it's too late.
	Hey, good afternoon!
	I enjoyed that last call.
	I'm going to donate a heart monitor for you.
	But I really enjoyed the interchange.
	those group sizes that say on the topic of people who want us masked forever.
	Rick, also from Los Angeles, line three.
	Hey, good afternoon.
	I enjoyed that last call.
	I'm going to donate a heart monitor for you.
	I really enjoyed the interchange.
	I'm going to tell you why we absolutely need masks.
	Everybody should wear masks so we can put our preferred pronoun on the mask so I don't ever get arrested if I use the wrong pronoun on somebody.
	If I use the wrong pronoun, I could lose my job.
	And what is your preferred pronoun, Rick?
	It's sexy.
	My preferred pronoun is sexy.
	My one is Galactic Master.
	We love it.
	Thank you, Rick.
	Stay keeping that sense of humor just the way it is.
	Let's go to the VIP hotline.
	We are delighted to have with us none other than Louie Gohmert, one of the true freedom fighters on Capitol Hill.
	Already he is looking for a new challenge as candidate for the Attorney General of Texas.
	Congressman Gohmert, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	Always good to talk to you, Sebastian.
	Tell us the latest.
	We had this shocking story from one of your colleagues from Texas, Nels, who said that his office was surreptitiously surveilled by the Capitol Police.
	What is the DOJ doing to you?
	Can you keep us abreast of the latest transgressions by the Biden administration?
	Absolutely.
	We're losing the sound there.
	I don't know if you've gone to Wi-Fi or something.
	Are you there, Congressman?
	Sorry.
	Yeah, Troy had them coming into his office.
	But what I had was, last week, we got a letter that had been opened and stamped that it was opened by the DOJ.
	Hang on, hang on.
	A letter addressed to you had been intercepted and opened by Biden's Department of Justice?
	Exactly.
	And so that was, I didn't know about that until we got a second letter.
	Uh, and it had come in, in September and somehow the DOJ got that and opened it, checked it out and then stamped it that they had reviewed it.
	And then that we got that one and the other one would then one day of each other and go, wait a minute.
	If it's a simple mistake, then why did it happen more than once?
	and And how long do they hold on to letters that don't belong to them?
	The U.S.
	Supreme Court in William Jefferson's case, a guy that was guilty of all kinds of stuff, even in that case, the U.S.
	Supreme Court said, No, you can't just get a search warrant and start going through a member of Congress's mail in his office, and you can't do that even if you set up some kind of Chinese firewall you think will be protected, because look, Sebastian, I've had people over the years who were FBI complain about the FBI, and if Congress cannot have people
	Give us information about problems within the executive branch, then there is no reining them in.
	There's no balance of powers.
	There's no checks and balances.
	Congressman Gohmert, can we hold you over for a few more minutes in the next segment?
	You bet.
	All right, this is far too important.
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	You have always been about justice, Congressman, whether you are a judge, whether you're on Capitol Hill.
	Can you talk to us about the justice or the lack of justice being meted out on the January 6th detainees?
	Oh, it is definitely a lack of justice.
	I mean, here you got people that have burned down places, government buildings, and they get released on bail with no jail time.
	And you've got these guys, some of them just, you know, happen to see Capitol policemen step aside and they walk into the Capitol building and they end up having their door knocked down and being just treated so vilely.
	And they use any excuse to penalize them, even though the law, the Supreme Court, everybody has made very clear you cannot punish somebody in pre-trial confinement.
	They're only there to keep them from hurting someone else, including themselves, or to make sure they're there for their trial.
	Well, we got judges that are just interested in making examples of them, and, you know, that's not justice.
	We, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene and I finally got in to see them, and I wasn't sure that they would even know who we were, but I mean, the minute they opened the big door, and it just happened to be during their hour, they were allowed out of their cells into a little atrium-type area between the cells, and they started cheering instantly, and I'd say over a third of them started crying, and they said, We didn't think we'd ever see anybody that cared about us again.
	The jailers would tell them that if they insist on their constitutional right to see their attorney, then they would be put in solitary confinement for 14 days.
	Not allowed to see anybody.
	They call that quarantining them.
	Unbelievable.
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	My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over.
	In fact, our fight has only just begun.
	We usually end our show every Friday with the audio version of that cut from President Trump, but it is the perfect, perfect way to introduce our special one-on-one guest today.
	He's the guy who's created something very, very special with a great name.
	It's almost as good as America First.
	It's AmericanGreatnessandGreatness.com on Twitter.
	He is the Chris Buskirk.
	Chris, welcome back to America First one-on-one.
	Hi, good to see you.
	So much to discuss, Chris.
	We're going to move eventually in our discussion to the state of the America First, MAGA movement.
	Lots of very exciting candidates.
	I know you know a lot of them.
	But first, given your background, you're a very successful businessman.
	Now you're a media titan with American Greatness.
	One of the few, few places that has the The testicular fortitude to cover January the 6th, especially the great work of Julie Kelly.
	Let's talk social media.
	Let's dive straight in.
	I did a little video for my followers on Locals.
	I tweeted out yesterday.
	I had a piece of advice.
	I have no idea if he follows me.
	I said to Joe Rogan, Never apologize to the mob.
	They don't want you to apologize.
	They want to delete, not cancel.
	They want to delete you, Joe Rogan.
	Don't do it.
	I know he's not a conservative, Chris, but talk to us from your vantage point as the founder, as the editor of American Greatness.
	What does the Joe Rogan experience mean?
	It's, gosh, you know, I'll tell you this.
	I really like Rogan's show, and I don't know him, but sort of, you know, as you know, as a radio and media personality yourself, people sort of get a sense of who you are by listening to you.
	You know, audio in particular is a very intimate medium.
	And so when you listen to somebody a lot, you have some sense of who they are.
	And, you know, the sense that I get of who Rogan is, he's a thoroughly decent person.
	He's very smart.
	Uh, he knows a lot about a lot of odd things.
	Including Bigfoot.
	Including Bigfoot.
	I mean, all kinds of stuff like that.
	And you find out when you start pressing him on these things, if you listen to him, he's got all this esoteric knowledge that's totally fun and fascinating.
	What he doesn't get, though, is the nature of the opposition.
	He doesn't understand the nature of the people who are coming after him, and he treats them as though they're acting in good faith, and they are not.
	Can I stop you there for a second?
	I want you to continue that train of thought, because I think you're absolutely right.
	But given that this guy, you know, he was the host of a reality TV show.
	He was a referee or a commentator for MMA fights.
	He's had this podcast now for a decade, Chris.
	How the hell does he not know that the establishment, especially the quote-unquote elite in the media, are not acting in good faith?
	I think you're right.
	But how?
	How?
	Too much DMT.
	I don't know.
	That's his big weakness.
	The DMT stuff.
	The DMT stuff.
	You know, and I'm only half joking because, you know, Joe is in his own sort of, in his own bubble.
	And I think, you know, he's somebody who, if you listen to him, he really is just genuinely interested in these things.
	Like when he had Dr. Mercola on, you know, he's just interested in this stuff.
	He has, you know, Elon on or he has Alex Jones on.
	I mean, these are fascinating interviews and Joe and Rogan is clearly just interested in talking to smart.
	And interesting people because he likes it.
	Right.
	And the joy he gets in just having these discussions comes through.
	And so I think in a certain way he's almost insulated himself which is probably in a way good for his sanity from the rest of the media ecosystem.
	And it has not done him any favors in this particular instance.
	I mean they what they want is two things.
	They want him to go through this ritual humiliation in public where he just abases himself.
	in front of the entire world.
	And as soon as they're done with that, they want, they just want him gone.
	They want him gone before the election.
	They want him gone because he tells the truth.
	They want him gone because he is just one big narrative violation.
	He says the things you're not supposed to say, even when they're true, God forbid.
	And somehow he's just missed the fact that you can not treat these people as though they're acting in good faith.
	They're trying to hurt you.
	They're trying to kill your career.
	They're trying to take you out of the discourse, out of public life entirely.
	And so when President Trump sent out the email to his email list yesterday and said, you know, Joe Rogan seems like a smart guy or an interesting guy or whatever he said, but he should stop apologizing.
	That was the best advice ever.
	When you're apologizing for something that you did and it wasn't wrong in the first place, you're losing.
	And he's accepted their frame.
	And I think he needs to really, really quickly get back in charge of his own destiny.
	For those who missed it, here is the statement from President Trump.
	Joe Rogan is an interesting and popular guy, but he's got to stop apologizing to the fake news and radical left maniacs and lunatics.
	How many ways can you say you're sorry?
	Joe, just go about what you do so well and don't let them make you look weak and frightened.
	That's not you and it never will be.
	Not very presidential, just like, you know, talking to a guy over a beer at the bar or something.
	But it is on the money.
	Especially, Chris, the point you made.
	If you did nothing wrong, when you apologize, if you've done nothing wrong, all you are demonstrating is your obeisance, your prostration before the mob, correct?
	Absolutely.
	No, absolutely right.
	And President Trump gave very good advice there.
	The person I'll tell you who has had this done to them before, but who's been spot on on this over the past, you know, I don't know, day or two or three or whatever it's been now is Dave Portnoy, the founder of Barstool.
	You know, he has been way out in front of this saying, you know, these guys are they're just trying to hurt you for no other reason.
	Meaning Brogan for no other reason than the joy of harming him.
	This has this has no basis in.
	In fact, this is really just this is just a pack of dogs that have found some type or a pack of jackals, I should say, that have found a weak animal.
	They smell blood and they want to kill it.
	And Portnoy has been very, very good going after the people who he thinks are responsible for for for kind of leading the mob.
	There's there's a couple of groups that he's talked about, which I just I won't sort of go down that rabbit hole right now.
	But he's led on this and because he's had it done to him before and he learned from it.
	And and hopefully Rogan will do the same.
	Well, we'll talk about this ecosystem that's being created.
	We're part of it, you know, Rumble and everybody else.
	But but talk about for a moment, you know, this system.
	What do you do with the fake fact checkers?
	Because what is really happening to Joe and others in Portnoy is these fake NGOs that are funded by the likes of Soros and the left-wing foundations, quote-unquote fact-check media personalities, and then that propaganda metric is used by Facebook and YouTube and Google to cancel people.
	So do you have any advice to how we deal with these fake fact-checkers beyond building an alternative ecosystem?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that there's probably a couple of different strategies that need to be pursued all at once.
	I mean, one of them, and I know we'll talk about it a little more depth in a second, is we have to build truthful alternatives.
	The other thing is that we need to adopt a very aggressive litigation strategy against these organizations and make their lives extremely difficult.
	And, you know, that's sort of the and I mean, bear in mind, they lie.
	Right.
	They fact check things that are true and say they are false and they cause real world harms as a result of doing that.
	And they should be held to account in court for that.
	The other thing that I think needs to that needs to be done, sort of my third leg of that stool, you know, if you sort of build that build better alternative, more truthful, more robust infrastructure, a litigation strategy.
	And the third element is what I might call an Alinskyite strategy.
	And we can take some inspiration, for instance, from the Canadian truckers.
	Find the people who are running these organizations and let's let the world know exactly who they are.
	I mean, it would be a terrible thing if the people who are running these fact-checked organizations all of a sudden had a bunch of American truckers parked in front of their Homes and businesses, and they were honking their horns.
	I don't want anybody to get any ideas.
	Right.
	No, I love this idea.
	The good guys using Alinskyite tactics for a good cause, for the cause of truth.
	We're talking to Chris Buskirk.
	Follow him at the Chris Buskirk on Twitter.
	He is the creator of a superb website, one of our favorites.
	Full disclosure, I have written for them now and again, and so have many of our guests here on America First.
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	Chris, we've got to discuss, let's go to the alternative ecosystem.
	So, you know, I love it.
	I love that, you know, what Chris Pavlovsky of Rumble on Monday said, hey, Joe Rogan, Here's a hundred million reasons for you to leave those putzes at Spotify and come over to Rumble.
	I'll pay you a hundred million dollars over four years.
	I don't know if Joe's gonna do it.
	Don't know if his contract allows him.
	But here's my concern.
	We're on all the platforms.
	We were terminated on YouTube.
	We're on Rumble.
	We're everywhere else.
	Are we creating ghettos for conservatives?
	The so-called echo chamber?
	Or is this my dream?
	My dream is, is this the way that we eventually make Twitter, that we eventually make Instagram, that we make YouTube irrelevant?
	It's going to take time and a lot of money, but could we do it?
	I think that there's always this threat that we could be building cyber ghettos for conservatives.
	And it's something that I think the people who are building organizations, like Chris Pavlovsky at Rumble, he's very aware of that.
	It doesn't want to do it.
	Rumble is a video platform, right?
	It's not a conservative video platform.
	It's just a video platform, right?
	It does other things, like you have a locals account there.
	It has a lot of functionality.
	But there's nothing that's inherently right-wing about a video platform, right?
	What he is building over there is something that allows people to speak their minds.
	And it doesn't matter if they're talking about stocks or politics or sports or gaming or fishing or whatever, right?
	And that is something that makes it quite different than, for example, YouTube or, for example, Facebook, where those things are just not permitted anymore.
	And the promise of The promise of social media was that people were going to be able to have these discussions, talk about what they wanted to talk about.
	Again, it could be politics, could be phishing, could be anything in between.
	And that's what's getting built over there, which, as it turns out, is quite different than what the legacy social media platforms like a YouTube or like a Facebook are doing.
	What I think is going to happen, what the promise here is, is if these organizations, again, like Rumble, like Truth Social, If they are successful, if they are even half successful, what's going to happen is that Facebook and Twitter are going to become the ghettos, and these other platforms are going to become the larger, more open platforms that more people want to be a part of.
	And it's not a fantasy, it's not a pipe dream, when you see billions, how much money was wiped off Facebook's stock last week?
	$250 billion.
	$250 billion.
	It's not out of the realms of possibility that they will just drive their metaverse into the ground.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, the Facebook, I think, look, I don't understand why people are on Facebook to begin with.
	I don't do it.
	I never really did.
	But it has gotten more and more pointless over time.
	You know, people, I was, for instance, I was looking at some focus groups about a month ago now, people talking, it was sort of issues around the 2022 campaign.
	And what I, one of the many things that I found totally fascinating, these are just ordinary Republicans.
	is when so many of the people were talking about their own experiences or their family members' experiences being censored on Facebook.
	There were multiple people.
	These are just ordinary middle American people.
	There were multiple people who talked about either how they or some family member had had their Facebook account just deleted with all the family pictures, all the friend pictures.
	They didn't know why, and then they got a notification that says, You posted something that goes against our rules in 2016 and here it is 2021 or 2022 and they just, bam, disable the account, delete it.
	There's no appeal.
	It's all just wiped out.
	This is something that happens, doesn't happen to everybody, but it's much more widespread than I think a lot of people realize.
	And so, you know, at a certain point you think, well, why waste your time?
	And by the way, the whole idea that Zuckerberg has with this metaverse where you just wear goggles and you sit on your couch or whatever, it's weird, okay?
	It's extremely weird.
	If you want to experience the ocean, go outside.
	Yeah, it's totally Mark Zuckerberg.
	If you want to have a happy life, go out into nature, okay?
	Have a walk in the woods.
	Don't put on a pair of bloody goggles.
	We're talking to Chris Buskirk, AmericanGreatness.com.
	For those not familiar, it's in our list, one of our most popular articles, the 14 most reliable websites on the planet.
	You are right up there, American Greatness.
	I have a mea culpa.
	I owe you some articles.
	I need to write some.
	We'll discuss that offline later.
	Will you talk to our millions of listeners and viewers?
	Why you, a successful businessman, created this website?
	What's the mission?
	And what have you learned in the years since you created it as part of the America First movement?
	The simple answer is because it had to be done.
	Somebody had to do it.
	You know, it was, we launched in 2016.
	We just were at about five and a half years old now.
	And I had just gotten to a point in my career where I was looking at the political landscape.
	I saw what President Trump Uh, had done to shake up this, uh, this political consensus that it's sort of been at least at the, uh, at the top levels have been sort of frozen and damp in Amber for a number of years.
	Ordinary, uh, Republicans, ordinary middle American voters, even a lot of independents were, you know, very unhappy with the way things were going.
	And, you know, if you look back at 2016, um, you had Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, right?
	Quite different people in a lot of ways.
	But they spoke to, at least the 2016 version of Bernie Sanders was doing this.
	He stopped doing it, but was talking to like the middle class, the working class, just ordinary people and saying, you know, I don't know, here's a crazy idea.
	Maybe it was a bad idea to ship all our manufacturing capacity to China.
	And there was this phenomenon, if you recall, in November of 16 of the crossover, the person who had voted for Sanders in the primary and Trump in the general election.
	And so I was looking at that sort of landscape in 2016.
	I thought, gosh, you know, like Goldwater in the 60s, he had National Review.
	Reagan had National Review in the 70s, to kind of be there and undergird and strengthen what they were talking about.
	And I realized that the legacy conservative media was not only not there for President Trump or for the America First principles, they were hostile to those things.
	I said, you know, Somebody's got to do something here.
	And just sort of the entrepreneurial streak of me said, well, you know, if not me, who?
	And so founded American Greatness back in the summer of 16.
	And it's just been, look, it's been a lot of fun.
	It's been a success ever since because a lot of people looked at it and said, yeah, like, why wasn't anybody else talking about these things?
	Where have we been all these years?
	And I really look at it just as recapturing historic American conservatism.
	It's not that we're doing something new, it's that we are reinvigorating something that's been a part of America for a very long time.
	And when you have regular columnists, who just happen also to be weekly guests on our show as well, like the great Victor Davis Hanson and Lord Conrad Black, you know that Chris Boskirk is doing something right.
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	Chris, I want to show you a video that I think is a game changer.
	When my team and I saw it, we said, this is it.
	That's it.
	End of story.
	No debate.
	This is the next election.
	It's from the Westchester police at the airport last year in the middle of the night.
	Intercepting some CIA contractors from MVM here in Asheville, Virginia, ferrying illegal aliens in an unmarked jumbo jet.
	You don't want to be somewhere where...
	The spotlight is here.
	We want to try to keep it as down low as possible.
	A lot of this is just... No, I get it.
	I get what you're saying.
	Down low stuff that we don't tell people.
	Because what we don't want to do is attract attention.
	We don't want the media.
	Like, we don't even know where we're going when they tell us.
	I get the whole secrecy and all this s***.
	But this s* ain't even about my s*.
	You know what I mean?
	And why?
	You know why?
	You know why?
	Yeah, I know, but why?
	Because I'm losing it all.
	Yeah.
	That's why.
	Come on!
	No, but what's the big secret?
	Everybody knows it's happening.
	You know why?
	Because when it gets out, the government's betraying America.
	Because if this gets out, the government is betraying the American people.
	Chris, gotta get your response.
	For me, if I were part of the conservative movement, if I were at Mar-a-Lago, this would be the campaign ad.
	When you have a CIA contractor saying, we gotta be on the down low, admitting afterwards that I'm not even allowed under DHS orders to show you my DOD Army contractors ID.
	I'm only allowed to give the police my driver's license because this is so, so unconstitutional.
	Is there anything more that needs to be said about saving America?
	Well, yeah, probably yes.
	I mean, I know what you're saying.
	It's hyperbole, but there's a lot more that needs to be said about this, and we need to be beating this drum nonstop.
	I'll give you another example, Seth.
	There's, you know, a couple of miles from where I live, literally across the street from where my kids went to school, there is an old hotel which has been used to house illegal aliens for the past year.
	It's a story that has been, you know, made quite public here in Arizona, but, you know, people forget, and we have to keep beating that drum.
	I mean, right now, in this particular hotel, which is here in Arizona, it's in Phoenix, It is, again, it is directly across the street from a school.
	And they have been ferrying illegal aliens in and out of there for the past year.
	These were from Latin America for most of that time.
	And then over the past, I guess it was maybe 60 or 90 days, it is now folks they've been flying in from Central Asia, primarily from Afghanistan.
	It is absolutely unsustainable.
	It is wrong.
	And it is something that a lot of people understand.
	is really deeply, deeply harmful to this country.
	Especially, I mean, just you go down one fork of this, you have these states and cities now who are looking and saying, well, you know, it's not just American citizens who can vote.
	It's anybody.
	You just show up and you let them vote.
	Like, you know, what we have right now is that we have the government's actually at war with the people, you know, and they're doing everything they can to undermine both the economic, political, social, and cultural prospects of American citizens, and it's wrong.
	And we need to keep people aware of that, of what's going on, because it's not a one-off.
	It's happening every single day.
	You understand the establishment when Kevin McCarthy says last week, we're not even interested in what the Chamber of Commerce says anymore.
	Well, if that's the case, Kevin McCarthy, then why aren't you on this issue front and center every single day?
	So are they just making platitudes?
	Is the establishment still just singing from a different You know, I don't know.
	It's such a hard question to answer.
	What I will say is this.
	It is better that the elected leadership of the Republican Party be saying things like that now than when they were actually listening to the Chamber of Commerce.
	I think what's required now is leadership to take that to the next level.
	Okay.
	It's good.
	People like Kevin McCarthy are talking about this.
	That's the right thing to be saying.
	Now, what do we do?
	Let's turn that into action.
	And that's what 2022 is about in large measure.
	There are a lot of candidates out there, first-time candidates, who were inspired by the America First principles that Donald Trump started talking about back in 2015 that he ran his administration upon.
	And they came out, you know, they started doing it in 2018, then in 2020 again.
	Running for office.
	There's a bunch of candidates like this for the U.S.
	Senate, for the U.S.
	House.
	And they want to put this stuff into action.
	We need to identify who those candidates are.
	I know you have them on your show quite often.
	And we need to get them into office so that this goes from talk into action.
	Because action is what is desperately, desperately needed.
	Lots of MAGA candidates.
	It's very exciting.
	Thank you.
	It's going to be only America first.
	America first. America first.
	America first.
	America first.
	Thank you.
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	Just saw this disturbing TikTok video.
	Tick, cut, two, play cut.
	So if the only reason you don't want to date someone boils down to the fact that they're trans, that's transphobia right there.
	Let's go over a couple of situations.
	So if you don't want to date a trans woman because you want kids, well, you better be keeping that same attitude with cis women who are infertile, or that's transphobia.
	If you don't want to date a trans woman because you're not attracted to trans women, I would absolutely love to know how you're able to identify correctly who is a trans woman on site 100% of the time, because that is just impressive.
	I wish I had that ability.
	I'd love to be able to have even more trans solidarity.
	And then also just...
	Being super straight is the all-lives-matter of sexualities.
	It's not a real sexuality.
	It literally is just something that's made up to make fun of trans people and to hate on trans people.
	So, yes, super straights, I don't respect you and I don't respect that sexuality.
	Bye!
	As a super straight guy, talking to a super straight guy, I have to say that person has mental issues.
	Seriously, if you're saying there is no such thing as actual straight people, you're either mentally...
	You have issues, or you're a bigot.
	But Chris, the serious part of this.
	I don't know.
	I mean, Tucker Carlson has 5 million viewers.
	That's out of a nation of 320 million.
	I don't know how many people saw the video from Westchester County.
	We have 3 million listeners, plus Rumble.
	So, it's a fraction.
	It's a fraction.
	But it's stuff like this.
	It is the insane and aggressive transgender radicalism that I think is our biggest political weapon.
	Because when this comes to our schools, moms and dads who are otherwise apolitical wake up.
	Tell me if you think that perhaps this is the one issue that could be the most red-pilling of all.
	Yeah, it could be.
	I'm always suspicious though that there's always that one issue that is a silver bullet, always and forever.
	We've gone through a bunch of these issues and what I think we've found over time is that people get tired of these issues or they simply grow used to them.
	We need to draw a firm line on these things and just say no.
	We need to because if this issue five years from now or ten years from now will be less potent.
	That's one thing I think that we've learned over time.
	Like gay marriage, right?
	Gay marriage 20 years ago to today.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah, there's certainly that.
	And roll back the tape another, say, 20 or 30 years to the sexual revolution in the 50s and 60s.
	You know, look, extramarital sex or premarital sex was verboten.
	I mean, I know it happened, obviously, before the 60s.
	But it was not something that people lionized.
	It was not something that people looked at and said, this is normal or it's good.
	They say, you know, again, we recognize people did it.
	But there's a difference between doing something and talking about it as though it were a positive.
	Yeah, making it cool.
	It wasn't cool.
	Having affairs or being sexually promiscuous wasn't cool.
	No, that's exactly right.
	You look at all of pop culture today and it's just accepted.
	As the norm, I mean, I can tell you just a story from my own personal life.
	Like, we got rid of cable 12 years ago when I saw this on Disney shows that my kids were watching.
	And there were these kids, I don't know, maybe they were 10 or 12 years old, and everything was about who they were dating.
	They were sort of like a wink at sort of sexuality.
	These are kids who are, like, prepubescent.
	And I looked at this, I remember my kids, and I looked at this.
	I vividly remember standing in my living room and I looked at this show that my kids were watching.
	I walked into the kitchen and called cable and canceled the cable.
	That's not an exaggeration.
	I said, nope, we're done.
	We're just not doing this anymore.
	I have to ask you, knowing your kids, how did they react?
	What was the Buzzcook household like for the next few days?
	It was, well, we explained it to them and then I defined sociopath for them.
	And I don't know if they probably thought, there goes Dad again.
	But you know, if it's not in the house, it's not a temptation.
	So it just, they got used to it pretty quickly.
	It's weird how, you know, you hear the Steve Jobs of the world, you hear the Bill Gates and, you know, the titans of tech say, no, no, no, my children are banned from having iPads.
	And you kind of scratch your head, don't you?
	Yeah, well, this is very common.
	I mean, this is the open secret is that people who work in tech in Silicon Valley, it is quite common that they will homeschool their kids or so they'll do some sort of alternative education and that they will not allow them.
	Uh, to use iPads or iPhones until they're maybe in high school or older.
	Why?
	Because they know that these things are being programmed in order to manipulate people.
	Yeah.
	Uh, once we've mentioned big tech, got to ask you because you know, you are a thinker, you're a businessman when it comes to what they're doing.
	When you see, I mean, there's great fighters like Dan Bongino out there, the president's always slamming them.
	Is it the 230 immunity?
	Is it the break them up and they're a utility?
	What is the Chris Buskirk answer to the fascistic, censorious, big tech monolith that we have today in California?
	Yeah, I think, so I am not a fan of Section 230 reform.
	I actually think that would work against conservative media.
	Because it would be weaponized against small conservative media companies very, very quickly, who would not be able to fight back against it.
	They wouldn't have the money that Facebook has.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm a simple man, Seb.
	I would just say, what is the thing we want?
	Well, we want for these to be neutral platforms.
	You know, we want for Facebook or Twitter or whatever to be neutral platforms in the way that, for instance, a telephone is a neutral platform.
	Like, you don't have Verizon listening in on your calls and beeping out the things that they think are, you know, in quotes, misinformation.
	I think we just need legislation that regulates tech companies and social media companies that are over a certain size, not tiny ones, but the biggest ones.
	The ones that, you know, arguably have more power than most governments.
	Facebook, Twitter, and so forth.
	And we just need to say, you're a neutral platform.
	And if something is legal to say, then it can be said on your platform.
	So it's a legislative fix?
	It's not a breakup like Marbel?
	I'm not opposed to the breakup.
	It would depend on what that looks like.
	But I think there's a few different things that need to be done here.
	But in terms of getting these platforms to behave in a way that is neutral, legislate the neutrality so that they act like common carriers.
	I think that's a big part of it.
	The other part of it, I think, is to change the way they are permitted to use people's private data.
	And probably just make that illegal.
	Yeah.
	Somebody just showed me, this is mind-numbing, what you sign on to when you use the Daily Mail website.
	And it says, we will sometimes use your data even without your permission.
	She actually sent me the screenshot.
	I'm going to send it to you, Chris.
	It is absolutely stunning.
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	I don't think he was too woke.
	He was the exact opposite.
	You know what woke means?
	It means you're a loser.
	Everything woke.
	Everything woke.
	It's true.
	Give us, because you know, you so have your finger on the pulse of MAGA, of America First, of this classic conservatism, if you will.
	Seems to me, although I'm stuck in the swamp, I may be seeing it a little differently given, you know, MTG's a regular guest and, you know, Matt Gaetz and the president.
	We're winning.
	I'm not saying the GOP establishment has surrendered, but things are trending in the right line.
	If you look at the number of MAGA candidates and so forth.
	Are you excited for the midterms?
	Very much so, yeah.
	I think we are winning.
	My view on this, going back to 2015, has been the first thing that we need to do is we need to reform the conservative movement in the Republican Party.
	And that, because that is the best vehicle in order to revitalize this country, to revitalize America.
	And, you know, if we look back over, you know, the past, what is it, almost seven years since President Trump came down the golden escalator and the work really began in earnest.
	I mean, think about how much things have changed in that period of time.
	It's a lot.
	I mean, it really is a great deal.
	The trajectory is right.
	And I won't say that I'm sick of winning because there's lots more.
	Uh, to be done, but I am, I will say that if I, when I think back to that year of 2015 and 16 and everything was just a promise, some of those promises have been fulfilled.
	Now there's lots more that we need to work on fulfilling, but we're headed in the right direction.
	And if the, the MAGA fairy tapped you on the shoulder with his wand and made you the next chairman of the RNC, what would be the first thing that Chris Buskirk would do?
	Yeah, gosh, the first thing that we do, I think if it was before 2024, I think we would need to get behind President Trump and make sure that 45 becomes 47.
	And what does that mean?
	What does that look like in practice?
	Yeah, I think, look, the RNC has some things that it does very, very well, and it has other things that it doesn't do nearly as well that frustrate people.
	And what it doesn't do well is it doesn't do odd years very well, if that makes sense.
	So it does, you know, it's kind of, it's pretty good at that sprint from, let's say, August 1st to Election Day, and it understands that pretty well.
	But politics is 24-7, 365.
	And what we need to be doing is we need to be building infrastructure.
	There's a, uh, and that's something where the RNC could do a whole lot, uh, could do a whole lot better.
	And that means, you know, being really, really diligent in the off years.
	Uh, there's this, uh, sorry, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I was just going to say, there's a, there's a saying that's a pretty common on the left that says, if you don't, if you don't look like the electorate, uh, you have get a new one.
	And what, and I think that's really smart, uh, because what they mean by that, um, is go find your people and get them registered and get them out to vote.
	I think it's just grassroots politics and we need to do it better.
	I think we've returned.
	I think we've returned to Alinsky.
	I think you're taking leaves out of Alinsky's lesson, who was a scumbag who dedicated rules for radicals to Lucifer.
	Yes, look it up.
	One of the rules we should totally embrace is it's war all the time.
	You never take a break.
	You don't win and then chill and relax.
	You've always got to be fighting, in this case, for America.
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