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	It's called energy gold.
	It's liquid gold.
	It's under our it's under our land.
	China doesn't have that.
	Other countries don't have that.
	And they're trying to take that away from us and give us wind.
	Well, wind is ruining our beautiful prairies and our beautiful fields and lands and everything else.
	And it's killing our birds.
	And it's the most expensive energy you can have.
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	And those turbines are all made in China and in Germany.
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	You see what happened in Texas, where the windmills froze and they're sitting on top of natural gas, which costs almost nothing.
	You know, when you see those big flames on the top of the wells, those flames, that's energy that's being burned because we have so much of it.
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	That was, of course, President Trump on Fox News telling the truth about energy independence in America and what has happened to that former energy independence under the current Biden administration.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Welcome to the Salem Radio Network.
	We have breaking news just before we started the show.
	From Georgia, from the Armored All-Armory trial, the verdict has been arrived at.
	The three defendants, Travis McMichael, his father Gregory McMichael, and their neighbor, who filmed the incident where a young black man was shot to get at death, William Bryan Jr., all three individuals have been found guilty of murder.
	Let's proceed to the other story.
	Still, news from Waukesha.
	There are now six dead from that attack by Daryl Brooks.
	As we were on air last night, I was hosting the Greg Kelly show for Newsmax.
	We found out that one of the many children in intensive care has died.
	Jason Sparks, age eight, Has died as a result of his brain injuries.
	His twelve-year-old brother is still in hospital fighting for his life.
	Daryl Brooks, the man who drove that SUV into the Christmas parade, killing five adults and now one child, appeared in court.
	At the same time, real journalists, I've done some research into what this man believed.
	Again, I do not pick these because of any favoritism, but for some reason, I don't know, they have more money, more journalists than most.
	The Daily Mail out of the UK has revealed the following.
	In a now-deleted Facebook account belonging to Daryl Brooks Jr., The killer is shown... Sorry, I apologize.
	The alleged killer.
	I mean, we have it on camera, so you might as well say alleged.
	Encouraged quote, the knocking of white people the F out.
	These quotes are not going to be grammatical, so just bear with me, please.
	knocking white people the F out and also appeared to support the controversial black Hebrew Israelites.
	You've heard of those before.
	Brooks was charged on Tuesday with five counts of first-degree intentional homicide and is expected to face more charges.
	This is from the Daily Mail.
	I'm just going to read it to you.
	Police have yet to determine the motive behind the deadly rampage.
	Yeah, he's talking about knocking white people out.
	But they have yet to work out the motive.
	However, records revealed Brooks is a career criminal with a rap sheet dating back to 1999 and was bailed twice this year.
	Facebook also shows the amateur rapper, and a very poor rapper he was at that, who went by the stage name Math Boy with an I, Math Boy Fly, who shared on his account a series of links and memes related to race and white privilege.
	They don't know his motive, but he's sharing links about race and white privilege When the protests erupted over the death of George Floyd.
	In a post from June the 9th, 2020, Brooks wrote, Learned-n-taught behavior.
	So when we start back knocking white people TF out, I don't wanna hear it.
	The white old people too.
	Knock dem TF out.
	Period.
	I'm just reading what Daryl Brooks Jr.
	put on his Facebook page.
	That post was followed by a middle finger and the expletive emoji.
	Continued.
	Among the brow-raising social media posts that surfaced on Tuesday was a meme about adult Hitler and the identity of, quote, real Jews.
	Yes, real Jews.
	The graphic posted November 2015 claimed Negroes are the quote true Hebrews and that America had moved false white Jews into a state of Israel.
	Let me read that again.
	The man who killed five adults and an eight-year-old young boy He posted on his Facebook page that Negroes, quote, are the true Hebrews and that America had moved, quote, false white Jews into a state of Israel.
	The Post promoted the views of the black Hebrew Israelites who believe African Americans are literal descendants of the Israelites in the Bible.
	Elsewhere, he said that Hitler was right.
	Yes.
	But they don't know.
	They don't know the motivation of that attack.
	Would they know the motivation of the attack?
	If that SUV had been driven by somebody who was Caucasian?
	Who wore a red MAGA hat?
	And who, oh I don't know, was plowing into a group that wasn't Caucasian?
	Would we know the reason?
	Would we have suppositions?
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	If it was a white guy in a MAGA hat, they wouldn't say it.
	They'd be like, well, this is just another example.
	No, it happened.
	He's a MAGA terrorist.
	That's what they would say.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	In the media, you can tell.
	They can't wait just to get to Thanksgiving, and they'll flip over.
	You got four days.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And move on.
	Totally.
	What's the title?
	Huh?
	What's the title?
	For 1A?
	Yeah.
	Something should be about knocking white people out, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What was the first quote?
	All white people, right?
	Knock white people the F out.
	Or you can put F, you know, asterisk, asterisk, K out.
	That's what he said.
	We played the Lin Wood cut yesterday, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is about the prosecutor, not his defense.
	Today's is about, not about Lin Wood, it's about the prosecutor.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
	I'm just, I didn't tick it off.
	I was just worried I hadn't played it.
	All right, we're coming in with Israel.
	Yes.
	Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Dorker.
	Thank you.
	Thanks, you too.
	Oh, I just ran the mics, they're live, I don't know why.
	Hang on.
	Can you access yesterday's cuts?
	Yeah, what do you need?
	I can... Um...
	I'd like to play cut one again about Rittenhouse and Biden.
	Jenna?
	Hello, my friend.
	Have you ever been more popular in the media?
	Uh-oh.
	Have I been?
	Have you ever been more popular than you are right now?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	We'll have to see what's trending later.
	It's another day.
	Yeah, you're working hard.
	We appreciate it.
	Well, you know what?
	I appreciate everyone.
	I'm about to tweet thanks to everyone who apologized for calling me a rhino last year when I said not to trust Lin Wood.
	Oh yeah, we'll discuss that as well.
	We'll discuss that as well.
	We'll discuss the prosecutor, we'll discuss libel, and people, you know, people.
	Okay, we'll talk about Lin Wood.
	I'm going to share a DM I got yesterday and we'll get you to react.
	Alright, standby, 50 seconds.
	I have yesterday's cut.
	Okay, great.
	I'll tee it up.
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	President Trump's former attorney, she is the chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance, host of Salem's Jenna Ellis show.
	Jenna Ellis, welcome back to America First.
	Great to join you, my friend, and happy Thanksgiving Eve.
	Yes, Thanksgiving Eve to you as well.
	You have been very... I switch on the radio and wherever I turn the dial, out pops Jenna Ellis.
	You've been rather popular of late.
	Well, you know, there's a lot of truth to continue to keep speaking, and I refuse to back down to cancel culture intimidation, all the leftist tactics.
	So, you know, we're going to continue to speak truth and stand up for the principles of liberty and freedom.
	So, you know, I'm not intimidated.
	That's what we expect from you.
	We have to discuss the aftermath of the Rittenhouse verdict, the revelations with regards to Lynwood.
	But first, we've heard what the great one Mark Levin had to say about the Tucker Carlson interview.
	I'm going to play a little clip again and get your legal take.
	This is Kyle on a certain old man in the White House.
	Play cuts.
	What did you make of the President of the United States calling you a white supremacist?
	Mr. President, if I could say one thing to you, I would urge you to go back and watch the trial and understand the facts before you make a statement.
	That's not a small thing to be called that.
	No, it's actual malice defaming my character for him to say something like that.
	Actual malice defaming my character.
	Am I correct that these are rather technical legal terms, Generalis?
	They are, and you know, I actually covered this on my show Tuesday, yesterday, because of the aftermath of the Tucker Carlson interview and talking about how I think that, you know, Kyle obviously has some really good lawyers who are telling him what the elements of defamation are, and he is actually a private citizen.
	He's not even a public figure.
	So in order to prove defamation, actual malice is a standard for a public figure, which Kyle is not, even though his trial was obviously, you know, has brought national attention and he's in the media a lot right now.
	He's still, he is not a public figure.
	So this is very bad for Joe Biden and a lot of the people on the leftist Crazy, crazy media.
	Let's break this down because this is something that, thankfully, most people aren't familiar with, the libel and defamation laws in America, which unlike the UK where I was born, thanks to a certain case in the 1970s that was decided by the Supreme Court, are rather absurd.
	So if you are a public figure like you, Jenna, or myself, if somebody smears, besmirches, lies about you, according to this absurd ruling, I think it was Sullivan versus the New York Times, if I recall, you have to, if somebody lies about a public figure, whether it's President Trump, you, me, or anybody else who's in the if somebody lies about a public figure, whether it's President Trump, you, me, or anybody else who's in the limelight, we have to prove that a person who lied about us knew at
	Which is pretty absurd, correct?
	Yeah, and that's why the New York Times versus Sullivan case needs to be revisited, because the media and all of these people who continually lie and make false statements about President Trump, they certainly have about you and me as well.
	They feel that they are totally shielded because actual malice is a very, very difficult standard to reach.
	And it's knowing that it was false at the time they made it or acting with reckless disregard for the statements, truth or falsity.
	And what a lot of these people in the media do is they try to couch statements that are factually false in opinion.
	So they go, oh, well, it was just my opinion.
	And because, of course, opinion is protected and anybody can have an opinion.
	That's not provably right or wrong.
	I can say, you know, turkey is the best Thanksgiving dinner entree.
	And somebody who loves him could say, no, that's totally false.
	It's a matter of opinion.
	Now, if I say, the sky is blue today, it is not raining, that is a statement that can be proven true or false.
	And so that's the difference, but people try to couch it in terms of opinion and say, oh, it's not raining, it's a great day.
	And so try to say that these statements, because they contain an element of fact and also an element of opinion, they're pure opinion.
	And that's how these media people try to get away with factual assault.
	Like, for example, when Whoopi Goldberg goes on The View and she's like, you know, Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer.
	That is a legal conclusion.
	That is factual assault.
	He was acquitted.
	He was alleged to be a murderer.
	Did he kill people?
	Yes.
	But murder is a legal definition.
	That's a conviction.
	Murder is unlawful killing.
	His killing was justified.
	It was lawful.
	The jury acquitted him.
	But she goes on, she goes, and, you know, and I don't care about that.
	You know, that's just that's just what I think.
	She's trying to couch a factually false statement as an opinion, and the law should not let her get away with that.
	Yeah, or the other host across, I think it's MSNBC, right, who said that Carl Rittenhouse is a murderous little white supremacist.
	That's not a statement of opinion, correct?
	No, it's not.
	That is a factual statement that she's trying to couch it as an opinion, but that's where this standard is ripe for review by the Supreme Court so that people who are listening to these media outlets know the difference between facts versus opinion.
	Now, facts, we can all have our opinion as to the facts, and we can debate that, we can analyze it.
	But we should not have all of these crazy leftists getting away with putting out factually false things as opinion.
	Do you think the fact that Kyle used such specific language in his interview, the defamation language, that his lawyers have been told, look, you're famous because of the court case, but despite that, Biden lied about you, and it's clear that it was defamatory.
	Do you think that there is a strategy potentially unfolding, given the language he used that was very specific?
	Oh, I think so.
	I mean, I think it appears very clearly to me that he has had good legal counsel, after, by the way, he fired Longwood, that he's gotten good legal counsel and that he knows what he's saying are what we, as lawyers, call terms of art.
	Actual malice is a legal term.
	It has a legal meaning.
	When he's talking about things like this, you know, the average 18-year-old, even the average lawyer, sometimes doesn't know a lot of these specific terms unless you practice in these areas.
	So for an 18-year-old to be this precise, know exactly what he's saying, he has been, in a good way, coached by his lawyers.
	And I think that that's actually something that shows he's probably gearing up for a lawsuit.
	I think he should, because Biden said those things when he was a private citizen.
	We're talking to Jenna Ellis.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Stay with us here on America First.
	Do you have any other mics are still hot?
	Do you have any idea who his new lawyers are?
	For the defamation stuff, I don't.
	I would guess they're not the same as the Wisconsin criminal law attorney.
	I have a suspicion, but I don't know for sure.
	So, um... I also have a suspicion.
	You have a suspicion?
	Text me later, Jeff.
	But you're always suspicious.
	You're Jeff.
	That's what you do.
	Yes.
	Jeff on Urban Dictionary means suspicious, apparently.
	It does.
	I saw that trending the other day.
	Like, everybody Googling their names on Urban Dictionary, and I'm like, really?
	That's what... Oh my gosh.
	How about this?
	This drove me nuts.
	So somebody on Facebook or Twitter She said, did you see Carl Rittenhouse's hand during the verdict?
	He had a Freemasons ring on.
	And do you know what the latest Q-drop said about what his last name really means?
	That would be great.
	Jenna, there are people like this.
	You know, I can't even with with all of the people who are trying so hard to read into everything some kind of special meaning.
	It's like, just look at the plain evidence in front of you.
	There's enough that is, you know, of these so-called conspiracy theories that are actually true, that the leftists were trying to paint as conspiracy theories.
	We don't have to go giving them more other crazy stuff.
	Exactly.
	You know, it's just, it's ridiculous.
	But you know what, our good friend Kurt Schlichter, he tweeted out, if you're a conservative and you're still believing that Len Wood's an ally, then, you know, you... Oh good, good.
	We'll discuss him next.
	So here's something, a friend of mine texted into a group yesterday and I said, hey Joe, can I, because he wants to keep it, you know, his persona.
	Behind the scenes he said can I tweet this out and it got like 10,000 likes in a couple of hours So this is I said this is from a friend so Nick Sandman earns 250 million by suing CNN for slander And he has six more cases pending Could Nick win a billion?
	If Kyle follows suit, these two kids could single-handedly be the answer to the end of the lying media, for good.
	And then, imagine if Kyle sues Biden and wins.
	I mean, seriously, we could see two kids upend the lying media, Jen.
	Isn't that amazing?
	And I love the Babylon Beasts headline that said, uh, Sandman and Rittenhouse agree to share joint custody of CNN.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Yeah, but Biden's the French could be trying to sell money.
	Well, sorry, Jenna.
	Isn't it poetic justice?
	You know, two kids who were totally defamed, their lives unended, and they'd be the ones to take down the establishment.
	I mean, that's amazing.
	It's a David and Goliath story.
	Although Jeff is right that he does have a good defense.
	Biden can say he's not of sound mind.
	Alright, we've got 30 seconds till we come in here.
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	We are back with Jenna Ellis.
	She is the chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance, of which I am a member.
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	So, Jenna, we discussed this in the break.
	Lynne Wood, I warned people a year ago that this guy, first I said he's a flim-flam man, He's a grifter, he's a shell game liar, and then when he said, uh, Vice President Pence should be taken out by a firing squad and shot, I said, he's a psycho.
	You had similar things to say and now it looks as if, uh, it's even worse given what Kyle Rittenhouse told us during the Tucker interview.
	Oh, I know.
	I mean, so Wynwood, by the way, was never part of any of you know, what I did on behalf of the campaign or the president.
	And, you know, people always want to try to link everybody up and just say, well, you know, you're all one big bucket of crazy.
	Well, no.
	So I very much set the record straight last year and said, no, I think what he's saying is not only crazy, but also, I mean, that's just nobody should be putting out those types of comments.
	And I was lambasted by our own side, by the way, Friendly Fire.
	I think, oh, well, you're just a rhino, and what are you trying to do to undermine, you know, election day, all this stuff.
	People don't stop and think, and they don't stop and analyze, okay, maybe we need to know, does this guy have ulterior motives?
	What is he doing?
	Who, who is he with?
	I mean, he's been a registered Democrat.
	I mean, this is just something where people want so hard to believe that something big is going to happen in the easiest way possible that they get misled very easily.
	And so I very publicly distance from Lin Wood.
	I've always thought that he was not helpful at all to the conservative cause.
	And I have never approved of some of the more outlandish things that he said.
	And now that Kyle Rittenhouse is a former client, actually said in this media interview that apparently Lin Wood could have bailed him out as his lawyer months before.
	If that's true, let's just say, you know, that that is true and I have no reason to disbelieve Kyle.
	That is ethically horrendous.
	That you would, just to try to fundraise more, and to, you know, I mean, for whatever his reasons were, you would actually keep your client incarcerated?
	For three months.
	For three months.
	I think he should be disbarred.
	I think he should be sued for wrongful imprisonment.
	Lin Wood, you're a grifter, you're a conman, and you're a psycho.
	Okay, we've got 90 seconds left.
	Gotta get this take from you.
	This is again from the Daily Mail.
	There is a quote, Jenna, From the Milwaukee District Attorney John Chisholm, who was responsible for releasing the Waukesha killer on a $1,000 bail, he said the following in 2007, Jenna, quote, you bet my bail reforms will kill people.
	Are these people ever going to say face any kind of legal repercussions for what they've done to America?
	They should, and what they're doing is actually violating their own oath of office, because prosecutors are supposed to be there to do whatsoever justice requires, and the purpose of bail is to make sure that the defendant shows up to court, sure, but also look at protecting community and public safety.
	And so for this particular office to now come back and be like, oh, this wasn't foreseeable, this is exactly what leftist prosecutors and Soros-backed prosecutors are doing all around the country is that they are undermining the justice system intentionally and they're trying to say oh we want to have rehabilitation restorative justice equity all of this instead of what the law requires which for people who actually do commit crimes not the kyle rittenhouses but the ones who actually commit crimes they need
	They need to have punitive sanctions and we need to have genuine rehabilitation, not this, oh, we're going to tell you that you can just go out and keep committing crime because you know that you won't even be held on any sort of reasonable bail.
	So this is something where it's a systemic problem with the left, by the way.
	It's not systemic racism like what the leftists are saying.
	And I said more about this, by the way, yesterday on my podcast as well.
	Listen to the Janet Ellis show.
	I go into all of this in a lot of detail.
	And now there is a six fatality, a six victim, the eight-year-old Jackson Sparks who passed yesterday as a result of Darren Brooks's...
	Massacre of those innocent people.
	Follow her at Jenna Ellis ESQ and listen to our podcast at Jenna Ellis Show.
	God bless you, Jenna.
	Have a blessed, blessed Thanksgiving.
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	You've got her number, right, Jeff?
	Yeah.
	Can we call her now, or...?
	No, no, no.
	Can you play Cup 5?
	About five?
	Yeah.
	What we know from Sweden is that their death rate, their per capita death rate is 591 per million.
	That rivals the United States at 593 per million.
	To give you a sense of what lockdowns were able to do in other countries, and I mean really strict lockdowns, in China their death rate is 3 per million.
	So when you look at what Sweden was trying to do and what they are trying to emulate in Sweden, it didn't work.
	They were unable to protect them.
	Is she that dumb that she believes in China?
	Yep, clearly.
	Alright, we've got Hero and Patriot Mobile here.
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	Can you come in with cut three, Fauci?
	Yes.
	Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gork. it's Jeff with Sebastian Gork.
	How are you?
	Good.
	Good, I'll put you on hold, he's coming in a minute, hang on.
	Okay, 30 seconds.
	Are you playing a liner, right?
	Yep, I'm playing a JCN.
	JC, I'm going to go in there.
	Alright.
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	I do what science drives you to do, and that's what I do.
	And, you know, I'm not in it for a popularity contest.
	I'm trying to save lives.
	And the people who weaponize lies are killing people.
	So the only question I have is that when you show Tucker Carlson and Peter Navarro criticizing me, I consider that a badge of honor.
	He just goes where the science tells him to go.
	Did you know that?
	You know, because that's why he said, don't wear masks.
	Then wear masks.
	Then wear two masks!
	Unless you're Dr. Fauci at a ballgame, then don't wear any masks.
	You're a fraud.
	And I think a couple of people are living rent-free in your head, Antony, including Tucker Carlson.
	Why is that, man?
	Why does Fauci still have a job?
	of $413,000. $413,000 paid for by you.
	$413,000.
	Dear friends, have you voted already?
	Salem is having its Culture Warrior of the Year Awards and we've got candidates you need to vote on at my website.
	Go today, let your voice be heard.
	Who amongst these is the greatest culture warrior of the last year?
	Ron DeSantis, your first choice.
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	Vote today.
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	Somebody who I would love to have on that list.
	Let's get her on the list next year.
	My gosh, is she a culture warrior?
	Don't mess with this lady.
	Her name is Stacey Langton and she's one of the mama bears that really brought victory for Glenn Youngkin in Virginia.
	Stacey, welcome back to America First.
	Thanks for having me.
	I just... I'll just get you to react to this.
	This is from The Blaze.
	The Northern Virginia school system said Tuesday that two books parents have complained about, Queer, Gender Queer a Memoir and Lawn Boy, have both been reviewed and deemed suitable to be placed back on the shelves of the public schools in Fairfax County.
	Stacey, you know about these books, correct?
	Yes, I have read them both thoroughly.
	And what do they portray?
	Well, they both portray pedophilia and pornography explicitly.
	One of them is in the form of the novel, the other is in the form of a comic book, a graphic novel, and I'll just... I'll read from... well, it's hard to go into detail, so I'll just give you what The Blaze has said.
	The books contain graphic depictions of sexual acts, including one involving a strap-on device and another involving a teen's youth, a teen youth's sexual fantasy about an older bearded man.
	Are there laws about pornographic material being available to minors, Stacey?
	Right, and here's the great absurdity about Fairfax County Public Schools yesterday stating that...
	These materials are neither obscene nor do they depict pedophilia.
	So let's go one at a time with those two statements.
	The first thing, they say they are not obscene.
	Well, here's the problem.
	No television station can broadcast the images.
	No television network can broadcast the illustrations that are in that book because they violate the FCC standards on obscenity.
	So how is it that it's illegal to broadcast them and it's also illegal to publish them?
	So the Washington Post can't print the images, the New York Times can't print the images because it violates the standards for decency.
	So how is it if it is considered against the law and obscene that Fairfax County Public Schools comes to the conclusion that the images are not obscene?
	Yeah.
	I just want to continue to quote the Assistant Superintendent of Instructional Services, Noel Clemenco, accepted the committee reviews and announced the FCPS, the Fairfax County Public Schools, are going to replace the books on the library shelves.
	The justification from Klimenko was they are valuable for students who may struggle to find relatable stories about themselves.
	So Stacey, if there's a book about bestiality, If there's a book about, oh I don't know, raping 15 or 14 year old girls as recently happened in Virginia, should there be books in the library for people who are potential rapists or interested in bestiality?
	Is that the logic we are led to believe?
	Right, I guess Noelle Clemenco, she's a female by the way, I guess she thinks that students need to be able to relate to pedophiles because Noelle went on our local affiliate WABC last night and she said that there is no pedophilia contained in the books.
	And the problem is there's a very detailed image that You know, it's an adult bearded male with an erect genitalia who is engaged in a sex act with a boy with erect genitalia.
	And so I don't know what book or dictionary Noelle Clemenco is using for the word pedophilia, but I think she's not using the same one that I'm using because the definition is adults having sex with children or adults having a desire to have sex with children.
	And that is precisely what's depicted in the book.
	And she says it's not pedophilia.
	So here's my question for you.
	We've only got a few seconds left.
	As my producer Jeff pointed out, here's the big lesson from that news item from The Blaze.
	Elections really aren't everything.
	You helped Glenn Youngkin win, along with great people like Chantelle Cooper and others.
	But the fact is we have to keep on fighting.
	Are you going to keep on fighting, Stacey Langton?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And I consider it a gift what FCPS did yesterday, because you know what?
	It made parents matter than they already were, and it's going to reverberate all the way across this country into the elections of 2022.
	And the next Fairfax school board meeting is when, Stacey?
	Next Thursday night, December 2nd.
	See you there!
	I think I might have to go.
	I think that's a great idea.
	God bless you, Stacey, and for putting up your family, putting up with all the death threats, for just holding the line.
	God bless you.
	Follow this lady.
	She is a truth-teller extraordinaire.
	She has to be on next year's Salem Culture Warrior.
	Culture hero, warrior, a list for nominations.
	Follow her in the meantime at Stacey Langton.
	Stacey Langton on Twitter.
	God bless you and have a peaceful, blessed Thanksgiving.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	What's your take on this guy, Jeff?
	Brinovich. - Uh, I don't know.
	Because the Teal's guys hate him.
	I just hate when the guys get super aggressive and he's running for Senate.
	You know what I mean?
	You've never heard of him?
	I mean, I don't know.
	He wrote that really good letter and all that stuff.
	I don't know.
	Right.
	You think it's just suspicious timing.
	Yeah.
	He also was kind of weak after that audit came out.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, what's important?
	What?
	Well, we're doing, uh, JCN here, and I gotta put that Salem News Network thing in front of it.
	But those school board people, they don't care.
	It's incredible.
	They don't care about the rules.
	You put the rules right in front of their face, they do not.
	If our side lost an election over a topic, they would do away with it for 10 years.
	Let alone.
	Yeah, right.
	Right.
	I mean, yeah, I personally had enough experience with that.
	They put it right in front of them.
	It says, oh, you cannot in the school system put political signs on the wall.
	And they're like, oh, you know.
	They don't care who says it to them either.
	You've got to, like, physically stop them from doing it.
	It's crazy.
	All right, I'm going to do four and nine right after each other, after I do the read.
	OK?
	Four and nine.
	And we've got 20 seconds.
	JCN and...
	All right, stand back.
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	I have to say thank you to John Lott.
	You know John Lott, he's like Mr. Second Amendment.
	And he just texted me to remind me about something nobody's talking about.
	John, do you know when the first Thanksgiving was?
	You were born in America.
	Yes, the first Thanksgiving, I could not remember the date.
	Jeff, when was the first Thanksgiving you American?
	Where or when?
	When?
	What year?
	Guys, how about this one?
	1621.
	Eric would have known that.
	Eric was mentioning that before he left.
	Get back to the swamp.
	400th anniversary and John Lott's saying, why is nobody talking about it?
	Quite right, John Lott.
	400 and I think we're gonna have to make this special I'm gonna have to buy some fireworks or something or get a cannon and just I don't know you know make a big noise 400 it's pretty good well of course we're the greatest nation on god's earth despite despite Who's in the White House?
	Jen Psaki, she really is the propagandist in chief.
	She was asked about the president, sadly I have to use that phrase, lying about Cardinal Rittenhouse being a white supremacist and here's her answer.
	Cut 4.
	Would the president ever apologize to the acquitted Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse for suggesting online and on TV that he is a white supremacist?
	Well, let's be clear what we're talking about here.
	This is about a campaign video released last year that used President Trump's own words during a debate as he refused to condemn white supremacists and militia groups.
	And President Trump, as we know from history and as many of you covered, didn't just refuse to condemn militia groups on the debate stage.
	He actively encouraged them throughout his presidency.
	What?
	Actively encouraged.
	You know, the funny thing is, if you're not watching the video, she had to read that.
	She was actually reading what she said off a script.
	That's how dumb she is, that when she's lying, she can't even do it extemporaneously.
	That's Jen Psaki.
	But is she worse than the person who's supposed to be in charge of our energy?
	That's Secretary Jennifer Granholm, who can't answer very simple questions like, how much oil do Americans use?
	Cut eight!
	There's various figures about this.
	I'm curious if you know, how many barrels of oil does the U.S.
	consume per day?
	I don't have that number in front of me.
	You can see her swallow.
	Oop!
	I'm gonna be asked a question that's really important and I don't know that's who's running this country.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, back with the one and only Jennifer Horne.
	All right, ins and outs now.
	Ins and outs.
	You're listening to One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka and Nick Cersi.
	Back after this break.
	One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka and Nick Cersi.
	After this break.
	What was his name?
	Oh, here it is.
	And we're back with U.S. Money.
	Marshal Art Mullen, sorry, Nick Searcy, here on America First.
	Welcome back to One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Nick Searcy.
	Welcome back to America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Nick Searcy.
	This is One on One with Nick Searcy and me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Alright, I'm going to leave the Comrex open and the TriCaster so you can play cuts if you want.
	Okay.
	I never thought this day would come.
	Have you seen the story, Jensen?
	No.
	Can you... Oh my gosh.
	Can you play the Cut 7, Rittenhouse?
	Yeah.
	How big is your house, Jeff?
	It's not that big.
	We have two... It's an open floor playing because I rip walls out, so...
	You don't like wolves?
	No, so that's like the dining room and living room combined.
	That looks massive.
	Seven?
	Yeah.
	Robert Barnes.
	The state said they emailed it, but we never got it.
	She said the same thing.
	So dirty.
	What do you think motivated Binger?
	Assistant District Attorney Binger is a corrupt person who just wants to make a name for himself and not look at the facts.
	I used to be a fan of the prosecutors.
	Not anymore.
	I believe there's still good prosecuting attorneys out there.
	But he is a prosecuting attorney that wants to make a name for himself and he's supposed to speak the truth and nothing but the truth.
	But he decided he wanted to lie and try to put me in prison for the rest of my life for defending myself.
	I mean, that must be shocking for you as a kid to realize the system can destroy someone who they know doesn't deserve to be destroyed just for political reasons.
	It's, it's sickening because this is a case that never had, that shouldn't had, this is a case that has nothing to do with politics, but politics were brought into it for people's own agenda.
	Good.
	All right.
	Can you play me the Twitter one again?
	Cut nine.
	A member of the Hitler Youth, a vowed white supremacist and domestic terrorist, carrying an illegally obtained weapon of war that he was too young to be in possession of, and worst of all, had carried across state lines, Kyle Howard Rittenhouse.
	His mother dropped him off with a snack bag and some extra ammo tucked into his backpack after their road trip to Kenosha from Illinois.
	The one-man militia finally found his targets, crouched down on one knee to hide, and looked through the scope of his big-ass machine gun.
	He then opened fire on the innocent protesters without mercy, an act of blatant terrorism.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Yes!
	Hello!
	What was that?
	That is something I'm going to play for you if I may.
	That is just something.
	That's a summary of blue checkmark Twitter accounts discussing Kyle.
	That's right.
	His big ass machine gun.
	His big ass machine gun.
	Kyle Rittenhouse rode into Kenosha on a Humvee.
	That's right.
	Unloaded.
	Flew in on a bomber.
	His belt fed 50 Cal.
	Yes.
	On people protesting with puppies in their hand.
	How we doing, Moosehorn?
	I'm good.
	How are you guys?
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Yes.
	I'm calling you on Skype now.
	Oh, then let me hang up.
	Jeff is running everything.
	Oh, Eric's home, right?
	Eric has deserted us.
	He's AWOL.
	He is.
	He's AWOL.
	He's absent with leave.
	I'll call you on Skype, Jeff.
	We'll call you.
	Hold on.
	I hit the wrong... I hit the wrong button!
	Oh, no.
	We're dialing in right now.
	Can you see us?
	Yep.
	All right.
	Good.
	Thank you for persevering on Tuesday.
	Sorry, my kids are here and I had my phone on silent.
	That was fine.
	It was fine.
	- Fine, I'm glad we got you. - You ready for the big wedding?
	Why do you have billboards?
	Why don't I have billboards?
	Did you see?
	Yeah, that's right.
	I don't know.
	Dave Santrella, I guess, ordered them because our ratings were pretty good.
	Wow.
	I know, we're finally starting to beat Bill Handel in a few of the hours today, which is a huge deal because their signal is so much stronger than Caroline's.
	Yeah, you're just not answering my question, are you?
	You're just avoiding it.
	Hey, if it were up to me... We'll circle back.
	Billboards!
	Circle back.
	I'll circle back with you on that.
	30 seconds.
	Let me check with the department and I'll get back to you.
	I mean, I've got one big poster of me about...
	A four-foot-high face of me from one of my book events, but a 40-foot one?
	That would be cool!
	Pretty cool, isn't it?
	And I get them all, the people are like seeing them now, so I get a lot of text messages saying, look what I found!
	All right, 10 seconds.
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	She may be the host of the Morning Answer on AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, but she's our Wonder Woman and we are delighted.
	Whenever she joins us, Jennifer Horne, welcome.
	Happy Thanksgiving!
	Thank you!
	What are your plans?
	I must know.
	What is the Horn plan for this holiday?
	There will be lots of cooking at Casa de Horn.
	I will be cooking this year.
	I've got my cousin and her little ones coming over, so it should be a lot of fun.
	Deep fried or not?
	We're doing oven this year.
	We have tried the deep fry.
	Did I ever tell you the story about William Shatner and the deep fry?
	No.
	Come on.
	You've always got a story.
	You always get me to tell the story.
	Now you've got a story about William Shatner and deep fried turkey?
	So my dad was over at their house one year.
	My dad was over at Shatner's house.
	Oh yes, yes.
	Did I just trip over that name?
	Hold on a second.
	I dropped that name.
	You were just mildly flexing there.
	Welcome to the gun show.
	And it was the first year that they tried to do a deep fried turkey.
	And so William Shatner was very excited.
	My dad was out in the yard, you know, like you men do.
	Were they smoking cigars over the fryer?
	They might have been.
	It's a possibility, that's for sure.
	Well, Mr. Schauder dropped that turkey in the oil and a flame shot up and caught his tree on fire.
	He's got his tree on fire?
	Luckily no one was hurt.
	Everybody was okay.
	Oh my gosh.
	So a note to all of you who are deep frying turkeys.
	Make sure you're doing it away from any vegetation.
	Is it as good as they say?
	Stop nodding.
	I'm asking her, Jon.
	Jon is doing this.
	It is really good, but I don't think it's any... See, I don't eat the skin.
	I'm not like... What?
	That's the whole point!
	Can't do it.
	Jon, is that the point?
	Can't do it.
	Be the point.
	Okay.
	Are you there, Mr. G?
	Yes.
	Where do you stand on turkey skin?
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	What do you mean?
	You eat it?
	Can we strip her of her citizenship?
	Go live in Czechoslovakia, right?
	Off with her head!
	You won't do it!
	You don't!
	Why not?
	Because it's the skin!
	I'm not a heathen!
	Okay, that's it.
	I don't know.
	She's cancelled.
	She is cancelled!
	I don't know!
	That's insanity!
	I just don't do the skin, and so it doesn't matter to me if it's fried or not.
	I just want a nice, moist turkey.
	As an immigrant to this country, I apologize to our three million listeners for what you have just heard on my show.
	This woman had an America Last comment about turkey skin, and it will not happen again.
	I assure you of that.
	I apologize.
	Hey, at least I eat my steak like the president.
	Well done with ketchup.
	So, you know, at least I have that going for me.
	Okay, let's try to move swiftly on from that faux pas of a massive proportion.
	Pies, okay?
	The pumpkin thing just doesn't do it for me, okay?
	Pecan pie.
	For my sister-in-law, I swear she puts a bottle of bourbon in it and it is good.
	Wow, that sounds good.
	I love pecan pie.
	Sorry, pecans.
	Pecans.
	There's a pecan pie.
	Alright, what do you prefer?
	My mom's from the South, so we always have to have pecan pie.
	And I also like pumpkin.
	I like to mix the two a little bit, which is pretty good.
	But we'll be having both of those, actually.
	Yes, you've got to have a selection.
	And it was my dad's birthday last weekend, so we're also having birthday cake, which is, you know, it's a... Red velvet?
	What does he like?
	What does he do?
	He wants a chocolate cake, actually.
	Oh, classic, classic.
	Okay.
	I just did that because I haven't discussed this.
	John, pies.
	Where do you stand?
	Pies?
	I'll eat anything.
	I'm not a big pumpkin pie guy, but outside of that... Pumpkin's a little weird.
	It's like a vegetable.
	Jeff, pies.
	Where are you?
	I don't do, like, hugs.
	I don't do pies.
	He doesn't do pies?
	What?
	Why?
	He doesn't?
	Well, you know, this is the man who says... I'm not a big hugger, though.
	I never understood hugging.
	That I can understand about that.
	He doesn't do science fiction, he doesn't hug, and he doesn't do pies!
	I don't know, who is this man?
	And he doesn't do used bookstores, we know that about him too.
	And this is the best one, this is the best one.
	I'm going to just dish it for those who, you know, watch the Rumble feed, you'll get this.
	He will refuse, Mr. G refuses to watch any film made before he was born.
	I've heard that rule from him.
	So strange.
	It's very strange.
	I have to ask you about mincemeat pie, though, because you're English.
	Love it!
	You love it, right?
	So does my mom, and it's grown on me.
	The apples and the raisins, it's pretty good.
	But it's got to be covered in the most alcoholic butter brandy.
	It's got to be soaked So you don't drink, but you get your alcoholic pies.
	I get it mixed in with my fats, with my trans fats.
	With your sweets, it's fine.
	Two of the four basic food groups, bourbon and brown sugar.
	Minced pies.
	Guys, it's not minced meat, okay?
	It's actually a sweet thing.
	It's like raisins and orange peels.
	Minced pies and a good old British Christmas pud, Jen.
	Have you had Christmas pud?
	I have not had any Christmas pudding.
	You haven't had Christmas pudding?
	Like figgy pudding from the song?
	It's a distant cousin of figgy pudding.
	Tell me about the pud.
	Well, you know, I can't.
	It's like, it's like head cheese.
	Once you discuss the ingredients, you'll taste it first.
	I'll cook it for you.
	You'll taste it and you'll love it.
	Okay.
	Christmas pudding with a sprig of holly.
	Remember, I don't eat turkey skin.
	Yeah.
	We will hide the turkey skin inside the Christmas pudding.
	Okay.
	Stop it.
	Far too much fun.
	Okay.
	Let's get serious.
	Let's get serious.
	You've always got California stories for us, but first we've got to talk national stuff.
	You were listening as we were prepping in the break.
	This was something I found on social media.
	What's her name?
	Blonde, conservative commentator.
	Anyway, it'll come to me.
	She annotated or she narrated, she read a series of tweets over the last few weeks from the blue check crowd.
	So these are the verified, you know, blah, blah, blah, social media influencers.
	Talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, narrated by a conservative, and this is what they had to say.
	So this is Twitter on Kyle Cutnight.
	A member of the Hitler Youth, a vowed white supremacist and domestic terrorist, carrying an illegally obtained weapon of war that he was too young to be in possession of, and worst of all, had carried across state lines.
	Kyle Howard Rittenhouse.
	His mother dropped him off with a snack bag and some extra ammo tucked into his backpack after their road trip to Kenosha from Illinois.
	The one-man militia finally found his targets, crouched down on one knee to hide, and looked through the scope of his big-ass machine gun.
	He then opened fire on the innocent protesters without mercy, an act of blatant terrorism.
	So that voice is Lawrence Southern narrating those tweets.
	Isn't that body-shaming, fat-ass machine guns?
	Isn't that rude?
	I think so.
	I think so.
	That machine gun was in great shape that he was carrying.
	Just like out of the Rambo movies.
	When I joined you this hour, that's what I came into and I thought, what is going on around here?
	Big-ass machine guns.
	It's Seb Gorka's collection, yes indeed.
	Just one of the lies from the left about Kyle Rittenhouse.
	But then, because those are like rando Blue Verified whatevers, but then this week you have Mark Ruffalo, you have Reese Witherspoon,
	talking about poor old Jojo the child serial rapist and then how and then we you know the guns the illegal guns Reese Witherspoon who's made money out of portraying people using guns in Hollywood movies they really I mean you're there in California this is the land of Hollywood these people live in a Kevlar clad bubble do they not In their little billionaire bubble.
	They've all got a lot of money, not dealing with the problems of the rest of us.
	When people riot, when people loot, they don't have to deal with it because they're locked away.
	Many of them can afford their own private security.
	They don't have an idea what it's like to have their neighborhoods torched and burned down.
	And so it's really easy for them to sit in their all-white living room with their all-white Christmas tree, with their all-white friends who are very educated at fancy schools, sit around and tweet lies about this case.
	And so, I think I told you, it's like an alternate reality that these people are living in.
	Yes.
	When you look at the facts of the Rittenhouse case versus what people have said on social media, it is glaring.
	And it is glaring again when we talk about what happened in Wisconsin on Sunday at the Christmas parade.
	CNN literally had a headline that said, SUV crashes through parade.
	Now, if this person happened to be a white guy wearing a Trump hat, it would have been a domestic terrorist pounding through a parade, you know, with a domestic terrorist, white supremacist.
	They would have come with everything, but because this happened to be a black person with a whole long list of priors about three miles long, well now it's an SUV that just happened to victimize all of those people and take the lives of a child.
	At the end of the day, There's nothing we can do.
	We can't communicate to these people.
	The people who watch CNN and read the New York Times, we can't have a reasonable conversation with them, can we?
	Because they think that Carl Rittenhouse killed two black guys.
	It's fantasyland.
	They are absolutely living in fantasyland.
	But you know what?
	Do not lose hope because we are in Thanksgiving week and gosh darn it, we're going to find something to be an action item for us.
	And so this is the reason for...
	It's not just Thanksgiving week.
	As I mentioned, everybody out there, and I owe this to John Lott, PhD, Mr. Second Amendment, nobody else has said this.
	Nobody else has said this except me on America First, and I authorize Jennifer Horne to do so.
	This isn't just Thanksgiving.
	This is America's 400th Thanksgiving!
	We are the Salem Radio Network.
	You know that 400?
	I had no idea that it was 400.
	416.29!
	Wow.
	We don't work a day over 399.
	I know.
	I feel great for it.
	I feel great for 400.
	You like my big pink cup?
	I do.
	Vodka all the way.
	That's how I make it through the day.
	Now it's just water.
	Alright, we'll talk California next.
	Yeah, we gotta post though.
	That's what I was gonna say.
	We gotta post everything online.
	Did you see his rap video?
	This guy that... Yes, yes.
	My whole monograph was... My whole monologue was... So, how do you guys know Shatner?
	So this is actually a very sweet story.
	So my grandmother, my dad's dad, or my dad's mom, excuse me, had a really bad stroke and I was the one that found her and it was pretty traumatic.
	How old were you?
	Well, it wasn't that.
	I mean, I was in my 20s.
	We were just very, very close and she was like making animal noises in the phone and I'm like, oh God, something's wrong.
	So I go rushing over and she was there.
	My grandfather was hard of hearing, so he didn't know that she had fallen and she was not communicative at that point.
	She was trying, but she wasn't able to make sounds.
	Anyway, so they put her in the hospital.
	They tell us that she's going to die in a couple of days.
	I scream at the doctor.
	I said, I know her.
	I know she's there.
	She is not going to die.
	Sure enough, she lives for like four or five years.
	But, and she couldn't talk, but she would play 21 with me.
	She would, she could sing.
	I mean, she was, she knew what was going on.
	It was insane.
	But we took her through all the rehab programs and then she needed too much care for my grandfather to give her.
	So we had put her into a nursing facility.
	And my dad, my dad, me, my uncle, we would take shifts.
	And we would make sure that someone was there with her all the time.
	And we always noticed this young guy who was there watching Star Trek episodes.
	And it was very obvious because he was so young.
	And we were curious as to why he was there.
	So one day my dad gets to interview Shatner for the first time.
	His, like, idol.
	He loved Star Trek.
	Loved it.
	And he was talking to Shatner on the break and he said, you know, at my mom's nursing home there's this young guy who is there and he watches Star Trek all the time over and over and over again.
	He really obviously made a difference for him.
	And he said, what nursing home is it?
	What is his name?
	And so my dad tells him, turns out that that was Shatner's wife's brother.
	The one who died and Shatner's wife had paid for him to have care in this facility and then she passed away.
	So he went over and met my dad and the two of them went and visited this guy and visited my grandma and then they became friends.
	That's crazy cool.
	Yeah.
	And that kid I guess lit up from ear to ear when he saw him.
	Wow.
	So that was a while ago?
	That would have been 2000 and probably four or five.
	Oh my gosh.
	I need more Shatner in my life.
	I think I'm going to have to watch some Wrath of Khan this weekend.
	I think you do.
	Wrath of Khan.
	So the wedding is in town?
	Or do you have to travel?
	No, I said I think I'll probably do the same thing.
	You won't because you're too young.
	Right, because it was made in the wrong year.
	Right.
	Is the wedding in town or do you have to travel somewhere?
	No, Maryland.
	Well, traveling.
	- 30 seconds. - And with fried turkeys, it's always slow and videotape yourself just in case something fun happens.
	Right?
	You set something on fire.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's what I'm doing again.
	Alright, 15 seconds.
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	We mentioned it.
	I was guest hosting for Greg Kelly last night.
	This unbelievable footage out of California.
	The looting spree of high-end stores.
	But Jennifer, we're not allowed to call it looting now, right?
	Right.
	That is a new edict out of the Bay Area.
	Apparently, if you say that someone is looting, well, you're looking at them through a racist lens.
	So they say that that is a term that brings along with it racism.
	So what was it meant to be?
	Is it like liberating expensive goods?
	What are we supposed to call it?
	Shopping without cash.
	Undocumented browsing.
	Undocumented purchasing.
	Right.
	There's all sorts of things.
	Look, I love a good sale too, but I just don't know about walking right out without it.
	This has become insane though, Seb.
	They're calling them flash mobs.
	We talked about softening the language with looting or how it was the SUV that crashed through the parade route, now a murderous criminal.
	So what they're doing now is they're saying that they're having flash mobs where 80 people will show up at a Nordstrom, 25 cars shut down a street, this is right outside San Francisco in Walnut Creek, and they run into the Nordstrom, they break everything apart, and they run out.
	It's happening in Southern California too.
	At the Grove, which is a really famous landmark for people who come to Southern California.
	People use sledgehammers and those rental e-bikes, those electronic bikes that are on the street, break through the glass, go into Nordstrom and pull everything out and they go take off.
	But this has to be organized.
	I mean, 80 vehicles.
	That's organized crime, Jen.
	They're saying they're using those text apps that are undetectable to communicate, set it up, and away they go.
	And typically, when they go in in mobs like that, you're lucky if you get one or two people arrested.
	In fact, Best Buy came out with their third quarter earnings this week, and they said that their third quarter earnings are down based on the amount of thefts that they've experienced as a chain.
	What's happened in California, it's kind of like a domino effect.
	We had Proposition 47, which was crafted by our current Vice President Kamala Harris.
	She's the one that wrote the title and the summary describing it so that people would know what they were voting for on the ballot.
	And I think she named it something like California's Safe Community Act.
	So, of course, everybody who doesn't really read ballot initiatives or really, quite frankly, they're set up to trick you, reads that this is about keeping California's community safe and they vote on it.
	This is the proposition that reclassified a lot of felonies into misdemeanors so that all of our elected officials can say, well, crime is down in California.
	Well, it's not.
	It's that the crime that's happening is no longer being counted as a felony.
	It's now becoming a misdemeanor.
	It's relabeled.
	It's relabeled.
	This reclassified some instances of rape as misdemeanors, and this is what set it up so that anybody can steal anything at $950 or less, and it's just a misdemeanor.
	Now, flash forward a few years to all of our liberal district attorneys, George Gascon in LA, Chessa Bodine in San Francisco.
	You're not hearing a lot about these flash mob robberies in the Inland Empire.
	You're not hearing a lot about them In Orange County or in Central California, and that's because the liberal DAs have said, well, we're not going to prosecute misdemeanors.
	So all of these people who go in there and steal are not even getting hit with shoplifting charges.
	They're just getting away with it.
	So it's a two-step process, really, where we've softened our stance on crime, but then we're not even prosecuting the laws on the books because of these George Soros backed DAs.
	But, but it's okay because in Santa Cruz County they're going to come after you if you're not wearing masks at home, correct Jen?
	How about this, when we say that liberals are living in an alternate universe, here's the story.
	Imagine this, they want to come into your home and make you wear a mask in Santa Clara County.
	In this particular area they have seen an uptick in cases.
	72 COVID positive cases per 100,000 people.
	So that makes them blow the whistle.
	And they have now said that you have to wear a mask indoors, even in your own home, whether you are vaccinated or unvaccinated.
	Okay, so did he?
	All right.
	First question.
	Are the police going to camp out on your sofa or what?
	Right.
	What police officer in his or her right mind is going to come knocking door-to-door?
	Now this is really scary because if any state in our country would go in the direction of Australia, it's California.
	So it's a little frightening that they're making, that they're even insinuating that this is something that is worth pursuing in Santa Clara.
	But I gotta ask you this, Seb.
	Our politicians, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, all of our great politicians here in California, do you think they want us to come into their living room?
	Because I've seen birthday parties and weddings where quite a few of them have not been wearing masks.
	I can't imagine that they're doing it.
	Do you mean the same Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom's aunt, who just bought a $20 million house on the beach in Florida?
	It's logical on a Congresswoman's salary, isn't it?
	I mean, what did they make, $150,000 a year?
	Florida!
	I mean, I thought DeSantis was, you know, the devil incarnate.
	I mean, I feel sorry for Ron that Nancy's moving there, but a $20 million house on the beach?
	Whatever happened to global warming, Jennifer?
	I know.
	There she goes.
	She's going to live right on the beach.
	And guess why she's doing it?
	Like all good, rich women, she's going to Florida to retire.
	Well, thank the good Lord.
	I mean, we have been hearing that she refuses to retire.
	A state that she will be running next year.
	So the speaker's gavel may be up and maybe she knows that they will be utterly trounced at the elections.
	But the fact that it's clear that she and her husband will be spending six months and one day of every year in Florida means I guess that Democrats are wrong.
	And don't worry, California Democrats don't need to live in their district anyway.
	Adam Schiff hasn't been home to mine.
	Maxine!
	Maxine Waters!
	I mean, none of these people actually want to live in the place that they represent.
	That would be beneath them.
	You know, at some point, are we ever going to look into how people who make a set income, like congressmen and women, end up with all of this money?
	I know she's going to say that her husband's independently wealthy, but how?
	For some lucrative government contracts?
	What kind of nice...
	Stock market tips, did he get and from whom?
	Let's just leave that out there.
	Jennifer Horne, have a blessed Thanksgiving.
	Say hi to your dad, Mike.
	Say hi to Grant Stinchfield.
	Keep him in line.
	Follow this lady at Jennifer Horne.
	And I got one request.
	Will you promise me one thing, Jennifer?
	I will.
	You got a taste of turkey skin.
	All right, I'll do it for you and I will take a picture and I will text you tomorrow.
	Crispy, extra crispy.
	I'll do my best.
	All the best, my dear.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Thank you.
	All right, guys.
	That was fun.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	All right, talk to you guys next week.
	Okay, you too.
	Have fun at the wedding.
	Bye.
	So we've got Merch.
	It'll be just a six minute segment.
	And what?
	Oh, six weeks.
	Yeah.
	We're not doing a lot.
	Is there a website for David, Jeff?
	I was looking He's on like the town where it has the candidate for mayor's That's where I first came off.
	Mm-hmm.
	But it's not like David Worley from that.
	No, it's weird.
	Nothing I can find from a search.
	Okay.
	America First, what's your name?
	Alright, what'd you want to say?
	Alright, hang on.
	I'll try to get you on.
	I'll manage it now once the... Excel.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	It was done like week one.
	Yeah.
	I guess it didn't matter back then.
	What? - I would've.
	What?
	Where's that coming out of?
	Why doesn't he flip?
	I mean, see what happened in Virginia.
	He should flip.
	I know.
	He could, like, get the Democrats to okay the Keystone XL.
	It's ridiculous.
	Right.
	What do you mean?
	At least it's getting more like herding cats over there for those, like, far left Squad members and stuff, they won't vote for anything.
	Is he calling us?
	Yeah, but he's D. Oh, he's D?
	Okay.
	Yep, we know about that.
	Alright, that's fine.
	Thanks.
	The mics?
	Is he talking about the mics?
	No, that, um, he has a Facebook.
	Who?
	America First, hold please.
	America First, hold please.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Worley.
	Alright, would you want to say anything?
	Okay, one minute.
	Alright, hang on.
	Hang on, I'll try to get you on.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
	Come in with Walensky, then I'll do merge.
	Can you come in with five?
	Yeah.
	Okay, coming in with five.
	Stay by. Stay by.
	Stay by.
	What we know from Sweden is that their death rate, their per capita death rate, is 591 per million.
	That rivals the United States at 593 per million.
	To give you a sense of what lockdowns were able to do in other countries, and I mean really strict lockdowns, in China their death rate is 3 per million.
	So when you look at what Sweden was trying to do and what they are trying to emulate in Sweden, it didn't work.
	They were unable to protect them.
	Yeah, and other nations had zero lockdowns and kept their schools open and had less death rates.
	Oh, and I'm the director of the CDC, my name's Rochelle Walensky, and I believe what China says about death rates.
	Because the satellite photographs of body bags in their hundreds and thousands, it's just, you know, it's a smudge on the lens of the satellite camera, right?
	Right?
	You credit?
	I mean, really, are these people that stupid?
	I mean, some of them are evil, like Fauci, but this woman believes the death stats coming out of China?
	What kind of moron are you?
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	All our good buddies are on the line.
	Let's start line one.
	Victor Silver Spring.
	Happy Thanksgiving, Victor!
	And happy Thanksgiving to you.
	I love turkey skin.
	Oh, delicious!
	I love chicken skin.
	Yes!
	I love salmon skin.
	Oh, hang on.
	Hang on, Victor.
	You left one out.
	What?
	Duck.
	Yes!
	Yes.
	Maybe the best.
	Maybe.
	No, no, no.
	One more coming from Hungary as I did for 15 years.
	Goose.
	Have you ever had goose skin?
	Yes.
	Delicious.
	Yeah, my neighbor down the street invited me over for Christmas for goose.
	And I also like salmon skin.
	Yes, absolutely.
	That's one thing my wife won't eat.
	But if it's cooked right, it's extra crispy.
	Victor, thank you for broadening our palette of crunchy, delicious things we can look forward to.
	And turkey skin is one of them.
	Followed closely by goose.
	God bless you, Victor.
	Have an amazing, amazing Thanksgiving.
	Let's go to Matthew in Ohio, line two.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, doctor, for taking my call.
	Of course.
	What I got to say is about, uh, I'm 94 years old.
	No, no, no.
	That voice is not 94 years old.
	You sound like a young man, Matthew.
	I know it, Bill.
	That's what happens when you're a letter carrier in the Postal Service.
	When you walk for all those years and treat people decent, That's why I'm here.
	He's keeping me here for some reason.
	I don't know.
	I can't figure him out.
	I did that years ago.
	He knows.
	He knows.
	But anyhow, what I wanted to say when I was a young boy, I was probably about eight years old.
	That was in 1935.
	And it was the Depression.
	And on Thanksgiving Eve, And Christmas Eve, uh, six o'clock in the evening, I mean everything except the pharmacy department in a drugstore.
	Everything was shut down.
	We were at home with our families having Thanksgiving supper.
	And what we had was, uh, my mom made a homemade, uh, Homemade, uh, I can't remember what it was, anyhow.
	Stuffing?
	Homemade stuffing?
	No, no, this was, uh, first she started off, we all got a kernel of garlic.
	And there was eight of us.
	Now I know why you're so healthy at 94!
	The garlic!
	That's the secret!
	Yeah, you got it right.
	And, but anyhow, it was, uh, uh... Mushrooms!
	Homemade mushroom soup.
	You bought the mushrooms in the store.
	They were dry.
	You had to cook them.
	Okay, Matthew, Matthew, stop it, okay?
	It is 4.30 where we are.
	I cannot get this hungry at 4.30.
	You are making me salivate like a Pelovian dog, Pavlovian dog, but I want to thank you.
	Thank you for your service to our nation in World War II and for carrying those letters all those years.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's get Matthew one of our America First hats.
	God bless you.
	you will be back with special guests and doc as well here on america first um we've already sent him yeah give Yeah, give him something else.
	Okay.
	Whatever he doesn't have, a t-shirt, a hat.
	All right.
	The person we've had on, was it from the American Trucking Association?
	Does that ring a bell?
	Yes.
	He'll come back on, he says.
	Okay, let's do that sometime.
	It's just for one segment.
	Or we can just send him one of our books.
	Yes.
	We can send him one, but I'll get one.
	Hold on, I'll get it first.
	Alright, we've done... Rochelle... He's on.
	Oh, good.
	Good.
	All right, just let me just...
	Hey, Matthew, what did we send you?
	Was it a t-shirt last time or...?
	Yep, okay, all right.
	Yeah, we can send you hat.
	Um... Okay.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Is it the same address?
	The Medina, Ohio, right?
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	I love that.
	All right.
	Thanks a lot. - Yeah.
	Can you play Cut 10, the NBC thing?
	- Okay. - Yeah.
	- Two minutes.
	The temporarily closed sign went up late Monday afternoon outside of Long Beach's only emergency room, and it stunned some city residents.
	With hardly any notice, this was thrust upon us and our community.
	This civic leader calls it shameful.
	This facility sees 70,000 patients a year.
	It was shut down just hours after the hospital that runs it announced its closure.
	I'm very concerned.
	This Long Beach councilwoman fought back tears, worried she says that a city of 50,000 now has no ER.
	But Mount Sinai South Nassau Hospital blames New York's COVID vaccine mandate for this shutdown.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	All right, I'm going to do Prison Fellowship here.
	I'm going to tee up Hillary Clinton in six, and then I'm going to go to David, OK?
	Yeah.
	All right, can I quickly talk to him?
	Yes.
	Good to go.
	OK.
	Hey, Dave?
	Hey, how's it going, sir?
	Good, good, good, good.
	What is the pronunciation?
	Is it poke-a-tello?
	Poke-a-tello.
	Poke-a-tello.
	Good.
	All right.
	I'm going to play a little cut.
	I've got to do a live read, and then I'm coming straight to you, OK?
	Sounds good, sir.
	Standby.
	Okay, yep.
	Prison fellowship won't be good.
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	Super excited.
	Why?
	Because what have I told you almost every single day on this show?
	We need more citizen politicians, not career politicians.
	We need people who are prepared to step up to the plate and to bring the shining city on the hill back to save our republic.
	So when I get a text From a former student of mine to say, um, yeah, um, despite having served in the military for 19 years, I'm going to run for office in the town I grew up in.
	And that's why we are delighted to welcome here on America First, an exemplar of everything I talk about every day on America First.
	He's David Worley, and he is calling us from Pocatello.
	Welcome, David, to America First.
	Hey, thank you for having me on.
	So tell us, tell a little bit of your backstory to the millions of listeners listening to America First today.
	Who are you and what have you just decided to do?
	Yeah, so I grew up here in Pocatello, Idaho.
	Like you said in the introduction, my hometown.
	Spent 19 years in the military.
	I'm still a drilling reservist, but you know, did 12 years of active duty assignments, been overseas three times, twice to Iraq.
	And during one of my assignments, actually, in the D.C.
	area at the National Guard Bureau, I actually went to the Institute of World Politics at the time where you were a professor, and that's how we linked up, and I've taken everything you taught me and applied it throughout my career, and you're one of the great relationships that came out of that particular military assignment.
	Well, that's very kind of you.
	I remember you well.
	After 12 years active duty, another seven years in uniform with multiple tours overseas, you've done your bit for America.
	You've stood on the wall.
	So what made you take this decision now to run for public office in the town of Pocatello, David?
	So I think something that we've seen over the past, you know, year and a half where it is really accelerated, you know, we've talked about this in the past and the kind of decline of the Republic.
	And I think that the COVID situation really accelerated that.
	And I saw a lot of things happening in my hometown and my home state of Idaho.
	I mean, going on other parts of the country, you know, the business shutdown, the mask mandates, now the emergence of the vaccine mandates and all these types of things.
	And I decided, you know what?
	I spent a lot of time, as you said, standing on the wall.
	But it doesn't matter if we defeat tyrants abroad if we can't stop tyranny at home.
	And your reaction as a member of the U.S.
	Armed Services to what we're seeing with the current administration and the vaccine mandates?
	We're hearing there are going to be potentially tens of thousands of Marines who will not comply, at least a hundred SEALs.
	Your response to this idea that some of the fittest people in America are being forced to take a vaccine?
	So I was always suspicious when we just started all this COVID stuff.
	I mean, my entire military career, I was told to protect myself from a biological contagion.
	I had to wear, you know, this big scary rubber mask.
	And then all of a sudden for COVID, I get handed, you know, a piece of paper or a piece of cloth to cover my face.
	So I think that we've seen throughout this entire process that we're not looking to the science.
	And then the fact that we're going to take, you know, like you said, some of the most fit, Qualified, highly trained people in our military, and we're going to say, no, your service is no longer required because you don't want to accept the risks of an experimental vaccine that, quite frankly, are in many demographics a lot higher than the virus itself.
	I think that's completely wrong, and that's something that, you know, we shouldn't have in our military.
	But to bring it back home to, you know, local politics, I think something that we need to see happen throughout the United States, if we're going to restore the Republic, Our local leaders who say, you know what, we're not going to wait for Washington or even our state capital to solve problems, but we're going to use a local government to push back on these types of mandates.
	How can people in Idaho support you or find out more about you, David?
	So we're very active on Facebook.
	So at David, sorry, at Worley for Mayor on Facebook.
	We also have a web page, WorleyforMayor.com.
	Those are kind of the quickest ways to get at us.
	And especially on our Facebook page, we put up a lot of videos, policy positions, things like that, and a just very accessible campaign.
	Okay, his name is David Worley.
	He served this nation in, out of uniform.
	It's Worley for Mayor.com.
	You can find him on Facebook as well.
	It is W-O-R-L-E-Y.
	He's been my student.
	I vouch for this man.
	We need more people in America like David Worley.
	God bless you.
	Keep us posted.
	I do believe the elections are going to be quite soon, but You are an exemplar of exactly what we need in this nation and I am very grateful for you reaching out.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Is it Doc?
	Jacksonville, line three.
	Hey, hey, there's only one Dr. G, so Kyle Reddinghaus had to be pronounced not G, not LG.
	It's the poet with the moustache.
	Hey, Doc, how you doing?
	What are you going to do for Thanksgiving?
	Oh, man, I'm going to gain about 12 pounds, my brother.
	12 pounds.
	Now, tell me something.
	You do eat the turkey skin.
	Come on, brother.
	Yes, I do, my brother.
	I do.
	Best pie?
	What's your favorite pie?
	Oh, man, I just love banana pudding and sweet potato pie.
	Banana pudding.
	I've never had sweet potato pie.
	Oh, my goodness, brother.
	You've got to come to the hood.
	That sounds really good.
	I may have some of the best news ever, I'll tell you after I talk about Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden, he actually said, you guys don't have to worry about Turkey.
	I got everything taken care of.
	I mean, this guy thinks America First is a curse word.
	But you know, he's fine.
	But hang on, come on, Doc.
	He's on the Nantucket in that billionaire's home on the coast.
	He's just fine for Thanksgiving.
	Oh, by the way, you know that his family's not with him.
	You know, you know, the stripper who had the baby with Hunter.
	I wonder why aren't they invited, Doc?
	Isn't that rude?
	Oh, man, that is so rude, man.
	But he probably forgot about him.
	He probably don't even know about him anymore.
	Wouldn't you be embarrassed if you didn't know how many grandchildren you have, Doc?
	Oh, that'd be absolutely crazy.
	And that's a definition of insanity, Joe Biden.
	He is the perfect definition.
	But good news for you, there's actually a conservative channel, and I know the owner that's coming out.
	I was checking to see if you wanted to do what you do.
	Stay on the line.
	We're out of time.
	We'll talk in the break.
	Next, Oz Guinness here in studio.
	Hey, what's this concerted channel? - No.
	It's called CTA, and they're creating a show that I'll be one of the hosts on.
	It's kind of like The View, but it's for black guys who are conservative.
	What's CDA stand for?
	Conservative Television of America.
	No way!
	And I know the owner real good, but I'm saying what you do, you can just keep doing what you do and have a TV show of it.
	I just thought about it while I was driving and talking, so I can call the owner and say, hey.
	Thank you.
	This is America First one on one with a guest who we've been trying desperately to get back in studio for the longest time.
	Some pesky thing called the Wu Flu got in the way.
	But he's back with a unique perspective because I do believe, I do believe he was born in that part of the world.
	He is none other than Oz Guinness, the author of, well, I asked him before we sat down, so this new book, what number book is this that you've written?
	He said, oh, 30-something.
	Okay, okay, fine.
	I feel they're putting my place.
	It is the Magna Carta of Humanity, Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom.
	A beautifully produced book and it is authored by none other than Oz Guinness.
	Oz, welcome back in studio.
	Thank you, Seb.
	Great delight.
	So, for those who We haven't caught the discussion we had with you in studio, I think it was over a year ago, who, no, recognize the last name, but aren't sure who the Oz part of it is.
	We'd love to introduce or have our guests introduce themselves before we get to the meat of the discussion.
	So, who is Oz Guinness?
	Where was he born and what has he been doing most of his life?
	Well, I'm the great-great-great grandson of Arthur Guinness, the original brewer.
	I'm very proud of our family heritage and the integrity and generosity of the firm down the centuries.
	My own branch of the family, my grandfather was one of the first Western doctors in China.
	Actually, he survived the Boxer Riots and he went into the Forbidden City and treated The Empress Dowager and the Last Emperor in the early part of the 20th century.
	My parents were born in China.
	And importantly for this book, I was a seven-year-old in the Chinese Revolution.
	So I remember the day very well.
	You have memories of that?
	Oh yes, absolutely.
	And it's important to this book because I remember the day when my dad said to me, son, we're in trouble.
	Chiang Kai-shek has abandoned the city, we were in the capital, and the Red Army's coming in.
	And I remember the reign of terror began.
	I was there for two years under that, and my parents were kept another two years under house arrest.
	But the important was, many years later I was at Oxford, as a graduate student, and had dinner one night with Isaiah Berlin.
	You know, the great philosopher of freedom, Jewish.
	And we discovered he'd been a seven-year-old in the Russian Revolution.
	And I was a seven-year-old in the Chinese Revolution, the two big communist ones of the last century.
	So we compared notes.
	Thank God the English-speaking people have stood up against totalitarianism.
	But in the mid-seventies, when I was with him, it would have been unthinkable That America would be tempted by anything like a radical socialism, let alone a cultural Marxism.
	And yet, that's where we are today.
	That is sadly where we are today, and I think much of What we have to discuss comes from the juxtaposition in this beautifully produced book.
	I'm just looking at the cover.
	I have my dedicated copy fresh in my hands.
	But you have two revolutions depicted.
	You have George Washington and the American Revolution.
	And in a reverse mirror image, upside down, you have the famous, well-known image of the French Revolution.
	And your thesis, if I remember well, is that There is a conflict between these two types of revolution and a misunderstanding of why each is important and what they truly represent, correct?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, as I said, the French revolution only lasted ten years in France and then came Napoleon.
	The revolution is completed.
	But it was like a volcanic explosion, and the lava flows have flowed out ever since.
	So this is not communism.
	We're not talking about classical Marxism, but rather cultural Marxism.
	So you look at things like post-modernism, the sexual revolution, identity politics, all these things which are troubling the waters now, they all come out of the heirs of the French Revolution.
	And they are diametrically opposed to everything about the American Revolution.
	But the big difference, say, between the 1850s, where are the leaders at the highest level who are articulating this?
	Yeah, this is, okay, I could, let me just start with, you know, you began with your personal history and your childhood.
	I'll just make one observation, if I may.
	So my father, my parents suffered as children under fascist occupation in Hungary.
	Then they were persecuted by the communists who replaced the fascists.
	My father resisted.
	With a secret Christian student's organization, was betrayed by Kim Philby, arrested, tortured, given a life sentence, two years in solitary, two years down a prison coal mine, eventually liberated by the freedom fighters of the Hungarian Revolution.
	And these are all things that I had to come to understand much later in my life, once I was born a free man in the UK to Hungarian refugees.
	But there was this point in my childhood I really, of course, went totally over my head with, I guess, some TV show on BBC or something mentioned the French Revolution.
	And then out of nowhere, my father comments, the worst thing that ever happened to our civilization with regards to the French.
	I think, oh, really?
	Because that's not the conventional wisdom with regards to the French Revolution.
	So let's start there for a moment.
	What are the... Why is there such a Substantive difference between the French and American Revolution.
	Where do we begin in terms of just how greatly they differ?
	Well the big source in the beginning is where they come from.
	So the American Revolution through the Reformation actually comes out of what in the 17th century was called the Hebrew Republic.
	The Hebrew Scriptures, the Old Testament, Exodus and Deuteronomy.
	Whereas the French Revolution comes from the French Enlightenment.
	Rousseau, Voltaire, Diderot, people like that.
	But they have different views of humanity.
	The American Revolution, very realistic.
	Checks and balances, separation of powers, to limit the abuse of power, which is a biblical view.
	Comes out of the Bible.
	Whereas the French Revolution, utopian.
	And you go on down the line.
	But the big differences are over freedom, and of course this year, over justice.
	Yes.
	Now with justice, everyone recognizes there is injustice, but the difference is how you address it and fight it.
	And that's so important as we look what's happening on the radical left today.
	We will talk about what's happening in America and across our civilization.
	On the left, in a moment, because we have time, we're talking to the author of The Magna Carta of Humanity.
	Previously, his last work, the last call for liberty, he's Oz Guinness.
	Is it?
	Are we doing a little bit of a propaganda on ourselves?
	Are we misinforming ourselves by calling it the American Revolution?
	Yes, it was a revolution against King George and the usurpation of certain rights.
	But really, shouldn't the Revolutionary War really be termed a reaffirmation of what was good in Western civilization.
	Is that a better description?
	Well, yes and no.
	I understand what you're saying there.
	You get away from all the radicalism of the left.
	Let me just say, it wasn't a tabula rasa.
	The founding fathers didn't come up here and just invent stuff out of thin air.
	They built a republic based upon the best of what civilization had to offer, correct?
	But remember, the English Revolution came out of the Reformation too, although it failed.
	Whereas the difference was the American succeeded.
	But you know, the biblical idea was that God creates order, humans create disorder, so God works in the disorder to reorder it, so the revolution is actually not turning the world upside down, it's turning it the right way up.
	And that's why actually the Christians in the English Revolution used the word revolution.
	They had that biblical idea behind it.
	So it informs the geometric stance, putting right side up.
	Absolutely.
	So it's a question of who says so.
	Interesting.
	Now, you think of, say, the Apostle Paul, when the agitators say to him, these men who've turned the world upside down, revolution, have come here.
	Now, from his perspective, he was turning it the right way up.
	Yeah, we have so much to discuss.
	The book is The Magna Carta of Humanity.
	Let me begin where we ended last time.
	You write these books, you explicate what is going on because you are fundamentally an optimist, correct?
	Hopeful.
	Hopeful.
	I always say, optimisms and pessimisms, circumstances, character is the glass apple.
	No, no.
	I try and be as realistic as I can, as you are, but hopeful.
	And I always point out where we can do something.
	You know, because the difference, there are a lot of fatalists today.
	Because of scientific determinism, everything in cycles, you can't overthrow it.
	Yes, you can.
	We don't know what's happening tomorrow.
	Humans are made free.
	So I'm hopeful.
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	We're back with Os Guinness, author of the brand new work, The Magna Carta of Humanity.
	You've mentioned cultural Marxism again and again and again as the threat, the thing we must face in our civilization.
	What is the nature?
	Some people say that Marxism failed because it only works in Pre-industrial peasant nations such as Tsarist Russia or China in the 1940s, in robust nations with a strong middle class, it's very hard to have that Lenin or Trotskyite revolution.
	As such, the new left, the likes of Alinsky, the likes of Marcuse and others said, okay, if class war doesn't work, we've got to We've got to switch it, we've got to rebrand it as political identity divisions, sex, gender, race.
	Is this really just a repackage?
	Is the new Marxism just a repackaging of the old Oz?
	Well, they both want revolution.
	That's the link.
	But you're right.
	It goes back to Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist who sat in jail under Mussolini, died in jail.
	He tried to figure out why Marx was wrong.
	The proletariat didn't do it.
	It wasn't politics and economics, it was culture.
	The gatekeepers.
	And if you find the gatekeepers, people astride the doors of influence and power, and win their hearts and minds, you win the culture.
	And as you said, the key man in America in the New Left in the 60s was Herbert Marcuse of the Frankfurt School in the University of San Diego.
	What did he bring to the evolution of this New Left?
	Well, Gramsci died in jail and his ideas are picked up by the Frankfurt School.
	Some in Germany, all over the world, but Marcuse was in San Diego and he's, for instance, his famous essay on repressive tolerance.
	Tolerance that is intolerant.
	Exactly.
	It's behind the cancel culture.
	But he was the godfather of the new left and for me the key moment was 67 and 68 when he and Rudi Deutschke in Germany called for a long march through the institutions.
	Explain that phrase because we hear it a lot.
	The long march through institutions refers to what exactly?
	Well the original was Mao.
	He was circled by the nationalists, he broke out, did a 6,000 mile long march to the north of China, regrouped, came down and won the whole thing.
	So an actual march?
	A real march.
	But their idea was, do a slow, incremental winning of hearts and minds, colleges and universities, the press and the media, Hollywood and entertainment, and then sweep around and win the whole culture.
	Now that was 67, 68.
	So, 50 odd years later, they have done it.
	And many, many Christians and conservatives have woken up, but too late.
	And they don't have any idea of the depth of it.
	So, you know, living in Virginia, we have all the discussion of critical race theory.
	But the long march in cultural Marxism goes back far earlier, and it's far wider.
	So it's not just Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, No Justice, No Peace.
	And part of the development was when George Soros stepped in, And people like him with billionaire super-funding, so you have an ever-swarming, ever-morphing pop-up protest movement, and it's all cultural Marxism in one term or another.
	In my field, where I spent many, many years in military analysis, we have the phrase, the center of gravity, which we inherited from Karl von Clausewitz.
	It's those focal points within the enemy that if you strike them hard enough, their resistance or their capacity to fight collapses.
	So those nodes, if you will.
	Where are the centers of gravity today for the foe we face?
	You've just described what Andrew Breitbart called the reality that politics is downstream from culture.
	They captured the culture.
	You used the phrase the gatekeepers.
	But where are the motors, the engines of this cultural Marxism?
	It's easy to say of the media or academe.
	But can we be a little bit more precise as to where the engines are of this leftism?
	Well, obviously, academic world is the heartland of the ideas and it's sociology, psychology, the humanities, not the sciences.
	They're by and large traditional and rather sane.
	It's those areas like sociology, my own discipline, in fact.
	But the key thing to notice is the institutions they attack.
	You know, if you read, say, Wilhelm Reich, the sexual revolution, he says we've got two enemies we have to overcome.
	One, the church.
	That's pretty obvious.
	But two, less obvious, parents.
	So in the 1920s, he's saying, we want sex education for three and four-year-olds.
	Why?
	To sideline parents.
	So what's happening, say, in Loudoun County?
	They were predicting this decades ago, and we should have been up with it.
	And realize how radical it is.
	Are you excited by what we've witnessed in just the last few months with these parents who clearly are, have an apolitical background, weren't activists and just said, stop the train?
	I'm very encouraged and Glenn Youngkin's a good friend of mine.
	A wonderful, wonderful friend and a magnificent leader.
	But we've got to recognize it's deeper and wider and behind it is not just the problem of racism.
	There is some racism left.
	Thereafter, the endgame, revolution.
	And make no mistake, at the highest level, we still haven't had a Lincoln.
	You know, just as he said, America cannot be house divided, cannot stand.
	Half slave, half free.
	America cannot continue half 1776 and half 1789.
	But who will be the national leader to spell it out?
	Even your great friend, Make America Great Again, he needed to say what made America great in the first place.
	America is a nation by intention and by ideas.
	And someone's got to address those.
	It's not just the military.
	It's not just the economy.
	There are ideas.
	Yeah, it's clear that my former boss, President Trump, loved America.
	I think that's one of the reasons he was elected, the authentic love for this nation.
	But it is now incumbent upon us to explicate, to explain why we love this nation, what makes it different, to have our narrative for why we must save the Republic.
	We're talking to Oz Guinness.
	The book is The Magna Carta of Humanity.
	You can follow him at OzGuinness.com.
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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Oz, let's look at the last year and a half, the last two years.
	What does the China virus and the global experience of Covid mean to you?
	For me, as an immigrant to this nation who believes it is the greatest nation on God's earth, I am saddened.
	I'm an optimist.
	I use that label for myself.
	But I'm saddened by the lack of courage generally.
	The idea that every business was shut down except for Amazon and the big multinationals.
	And we didn't see a slew, we didn't see a tide of Americans say, No, you're not shutting down my capacity to feed my children or to pay my employees.
	We had the odd outliers, one restauranteur in California, one bar owner in New Jersey, but the fact that there wasn't a tidal wave of resistance, are you disappointed with, not just America, but with the West's reaction to the China virus?
	No, very much so, in lots of levels.
	But if you bring up to date what I'm arguing for my book, I would put it in three words.
	Revolution?
	That's what we've been talking about.
	And I would say, please Lord, no.
	But the second word, oligarchy.
	In other words, what Americans are not really seeing, except for the farsighted people like, say, Angelo Kotovia and people like that, is the growing split between the elites and ordinary people.
	So America's not a democracy anymore.
	It's increasingly an oligarchy run by the elites who are technocratic, the experts, and so on.
	And big tech.
	That's extremely dangerous.
	Of course, big tech.
	Absolutely.
	So, where does this begin?
	Where does the response begin?
	We've seen the mama bears, this organic resistance to the most disgusting form of cultural Marxism, which is critical race theory, that is bigoted in and of itself.
	Is that enough, or must there be somebody who picks up the staff of leadership, or can it happen county by county, state by state?
	You discussed in our last interview this concept in a second Trump administration of a, I can't remember the phrase you used exactly, a rededication of the nation?
	Is that a sine qua non of our requisite response?
	In other words, the American system is constitutional based on the Hebrew covenant.
	With the covenantal system or constitutional systems They break down unless they hand it on from every generation to the next generation So for the Hebrews every seven years The king was supposed to read the covenant aloud and call the people back and when you had the real breakdown say Josiah's time or even worse Ezra and Nehemiah you had an entirely new periods of rededication now America's got so far
	From the real understanding of the Covenant and the Constitution, you need some future leader.
	And let me dare to bring in the notion of atonement.
	You know, America's examining its conscience.
	How do you address the things that are known evils?
	Well, you can.
	The Day of Atonement was a national response to the scandal of the Golden Calf.
	And the trouble with many Christians, they've made something like the cross purely personal, purely spiritual, nothing to do with a community or a nation.
	But America needs atonement.
	Talk to us about why that concept that it's just personal would not have sat well with the founding fathers.
	Well, because they had a much deeper sense of individual freedom, but national freedom.
	We've made it all personal and so on, which is a huge mistake.
	We've individualized it.
	Of course, the left does the opposite.
	It collectivizes everything.
	Where's the culpability on our side?
	You know, this slouching towards Gomorrah or this reaching for the snooze button.
	Did we just kind of abdicate the culture?
	Why the capacity for the left to have done what it has done on us?
	Well, take a very key thing, which I know you disagree with, is a play in Loudoun County, which is civic education.
	No, it's the original American motto, a pluribus unum.
	You had to have a unum.
	People could come from Ireland or Italy or China or Mexico or Hungary and know what it was to be American.
	But today, let's be clear, I've been here 30 years now as a visitor.
	We've talked about the wall, we've talked about sanctuary cities.
	No one talks about citizenship.
	America could take in millions if it made the new immigrants citizens.
	You know Huntington's saying it's relatively easy to become an American.
	But increasingly difficult to know what it is to be American.
	And that's the challenge.
	No, that is such a valid point and I think that's why one of our weekly regular guests, the great Victor Davis Hanson's latest book is titled The Dying Citizen.
	It is a tour de force examination of what citizenship should mean and what it did mean.
	We're talking to Oz Guinness.
	This is America First one-on-one.
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	The tough question that most people don't wish to grapple with.
	I look at recent events.
	I look at Kyle Rittenhouse, the smearing of the 17-year-old boy as a white supremacist.
	I see what's happening on the southern border with the exploitation of illegal immigrants by coyotes, by people who don't just make money out of them but abuse them as well.
	This cultural Marxism isn't just a political foe, is it?
	There is truly something diabolical at the heart of all this.
	Absolutely.
	Now let's be clear.
	The bookends of history are authoritarianism and anarchy.
	And the genius of America is ordered freedom.
	Covenantal constitutional freedom.
	And if we squander this, It'll be one of the catastrophes of history.
	It's a tragedy.
	I'm not American.
	But sometimes I weep, sometimes I'm angry to see Americans on the left suppressing freedom and much of America carelessly squandering it.
	It is a disaster.
	Talk to us about the theological or the spiritual aspects of what we're living through us.
	Well, there's a definite theological aspect in that, you know, the heart of covenantal ideas is freedom under God.
	And you only have it in the biblical view.
	Take a notion like freedom.
	If you look at atheism, it is as deterministic, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, B.S.
	Lewis, J.B.
	Watson, Sigmund Freud.
	Atheism is as deterministic and having a complete lack of freedom as, say, the Babylonians who believed everything was from the stars, or whatever, or the Greeks who believed it was all fate.
	In other words, freedom is uniquely and distinctively Jewish and Christian from the Bible.
	What is your response to say that, you know, we are not a Christian nation?
	Well, we're not.
	No, the genius... That's a very controversial topic for a simple reason.
	America's not.
	Like, France was officially Catholic.
	England is officially Anglican, Protestant.
	America's officially nothing.
	But, while it was not officially or nationally, formally, institutionally Christian, more than 90% of the time of the revolution came out of the Protestant evangelical background.
	In other words, most of the ideas are Christian.
	Most of the people were Christian.
	Although the nation was never Christian in an official sense.
	In other words, disestablishment was wonderful.
	Separation?
	Yeah, because it meant that faith was voluntary.
	You cannot, must not coerce faith.
	But is it accurate to say that one doesn't have to be Jewish or Christian to be an American, but that American values are fundamentally rooted in the Judeo-Christian value system?
	That's right.
	Everyone was welcomed.
	But we're increasingly becoming what Europe already is, a cut flower civilization.
	So, you take something like human rights.
	Are humans merely toolmakers, naked apes or selfish genes?
	Out of that sort of background, you'd never get human rights.
	What's the basis?
	The understanding that humans, every one of them, are made in the image and likeness of God.
	And the best argument against multiculturalism or relativism is?
	Without truth there's no freedom.
	Unpack that because that's rather a deep philosophical statement.
	Without truth there is no freedom.
	Well take the notion of postmodernism or the famous economist cover in 2016 about being in a post-truth world.
	That idea, 2016, goes back to Nietzsche In the 1880s, God is dead and truth is dead.
	Now, if God is dead, which he isn't, of course, and nor is truth dead, but if you take that as so, all you have left is power.
	That's the danger of the left.
	In other words, when they address injustice, it's only power.
	You have a conflict of powers, and the Romans were very clear about what the end result would be, the peace of despotism.
	In other words, you either have a conflict with no end, or the only end is where some power is unrivaled and can put down every other power.
	Another word for authoritarianism.
	So without truth there's no freedom, and that's what Jesus said.
	You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
	When you look around our civilization, when you look at the West, and we see these very negative examples of how we are faring in response to things such as the China virus, are there any nations, any leaders, any movements that provide you some kind of positive sense that, ah, yes, these people get it?
	Is there a country, is there a movement that gives you even more hope?
	Not really.
	There may be better or worse responses to COVID.
	But why I love America is that she has the opportunity to be the greatest expression of ordered freedom.
	In other words, freedom maximized, justice maximized, peace maximized, and so on, in all of history.
	So if this, what Washington called the Great Experiment, is squandered, It is, as I said earlier, a calamity.
	A great calamity of the ages.
	And that's why I, as an Englishman, an Irishman, want to stay here and fight for this.
	And I meet Americans all over the place, they just don't understand their own experiment.
	They don't understand how late the hour is.
	What is it the Bible says about the prophet in his own land and he has he's not Recognized in his own land has to go to another one.
	There is something about the immigrants I we are both immigrants to the United States I as such I don't really understand this strange thing with regards to Thanksgiving of what is it Black Friday?
	I still don't understand it.
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	We are talking to Oz Guinness, the author most recently of The Last Call for Liberty, and now his brand new book is The Magna Carta of Humanity, Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom.
	You can find out more at OzGuinness.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	I don't think he was too woke.
	He was the exact opposite.
	You know what woke means?
	It means you're a loser.
	Everything woke.
	Everything woke.
	It's true.
	society and you go and build your quote unquote monastery somewhere and you disconnect.
	And I think, are you serious?
	Where the threat is the greatest, you actually go and hide somewhere?
	So it drives me insane.
	So I'm so glad you said what you said.
	But as a devil's advocate to the second point, when you say, That Hebrew model, I as a Hebrew, as an Israeli member of the tribe and I'm responsible for my fellow member of my nation.
	What if somebody says, oh that's collectivism!
	That's what the Marxists believe!
	What's your response?
	It wasn't.
	Because for example, private property was individual absolute rights.
	And you had people like, say, Elijah confronting Ahab, who took someone else's land.
	Or, worse still, Nathan confronting David, who took someone else's wife.
	You know, there were things that were absolutely sacrosanct, individual rights, like marriages, and like property, and so on.
	This is not collectivism.
	But you did have that responsibility.
	You love your neighbor as yourself, and so on.
	It wasn't just pure individualism.
	Well, right now I feel schizophrenic.
	I'm not an optimist.
	I'm an optimist and a pessimist.
	Why?
	I'm a pessimist because that's it!
	Our time is up.
	I could do that for hours.
	We have to get Oz Guinness back in studio.
	What's the good news that makes me an optimist?
	It's okay!
	I've got his book!
	Dedicated copy, actually.
	You can get yours right now.
	It is The Magna Carta of Humanity, Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom.
	Anything written by this man is worth your time.
	Please check out his website, OzGuinness.com.
	That's Oz, O-S, OzGuinness.com.
	God bless you, Oz, for doing what you do.
	Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Keep your head on a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in, and stay frosty.
	Superb!
	So, how do you know Glenn?
	He's a good friend.
	How did you connect?
	Well, when he came back from London and Carlisle, he got in touch with me.
	Actually, my son knew him in London and put us in touch.
	I've spoken for him.
	He's a wonderful Christian brother.
	Yeah, he's surrounded by the wrong people.
	You know, his team didn't want him to come on my show until I Really?
	Yeah, text Shane to me.
	I thought Kay is now helping his transition.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, no.
	Before that.
	I mean, the rhinos who's surrounded by the campaign stuff.
	Well, you can imagine.
	You can imagine.
	All the hangers on the strap hangers.
	I told him, you know, when first thing came out CRT, I know a lot about that.
	But again, the rhinos, he wouldn't let me even spend time explaining it to him.
	No, it's a challenge.
	I know, he will be measured by who he surrounds himself with.
	But you know Seb, on another level, I was down with people, you and I, I was with, I would say, people I greatly admire, like Jim Jordan.
	And I said to Jenny at the end, it was all trench warfare.
	It was terrific.
	It was all tactical.
	Dems are doing this, I'll fight them there.
	It was all hand-to-hand combat like World War One trenches.
	There was no generalship.
	This is, this is what, this is, you know.
	That's what you can do because you're a strategic thinker.

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