Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Will Kyle Rittenhouse sue Joe Biden?
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was arrested on August 25th at around 6 a.m.
I was formally arrested without a criminal complaint being drafted.
They didn't know what they were charging me with yet.
They just arrested me.
At home?
At Antioch Police Department.
What'd your parents say when you called them and told them what had happened?
I didn't call my mom after I saw her, and she was in shock.
She was like, uh, she wanted to go into hiding, and I said, no, the right thing to do would be to turn myself in.
I didn't do anything wrong.
So you knew that from the very beginning?
I knew that.
A lot of people are like, oh, Kyle had time to meet with his attorneys to come up with this amazing defense of self-defense.
No, that's not the case.
This has been 100% self-defense from the beginning.
And I didn't know there was 100 cameras, but I did know I was attacked and I defended myself.
What do you think would have happened to you if there hadn't been the amount of video that there is?
I can't even imagine.
I don't think we'd be sitting here right now having this talk, Tucker.
That's for sure.
That's for sure.
Welcome, friends.
This is America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, on the Salem Radio Network.
Kudos!
I texted Tucker Carlson last night.
I thanked him for getting that incredible, exclusive interview out.
Probably crushed the ratings, but far more important than that, Kyle Rittenhouse The 17-year-old boy, who was called a white supremacist by Joe Biden on the campaign trail, sat down to give his version of events and what happened to him.
And I have to tell you, I don't count myself as a slouch, okay?
I was a member of the debating team in high school, but I don't think at his age, now 18, I could have acquitted myself as well as he did in that interview.
So well spoken, so clear.
And at times, dropping certain truth bombs and indications of perhaps some plans he has for the future, when he talked about smearing with malice, what Joe Biden said about him, not as president, what Joe Biden said about him, not as president, there's no immunity for what Joe Biden said about him, because he was a private citizen, not even a senator, not a vice president, but on the campaign trail.
We'll play that for you later.
But first, just the things we know as a result of that 40 minute interview with Tucker.
Did you hear that?
Smuggled into that little clip we played.
He was arrested by the local police without a charge.
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
Is that even constitutional?
We're just arrested.
We don't know what for, but we don't like your face.
If you hadn't seen the whole story, the whole interview, this is a boy who shot a serial child rapist, a convicted wife abuser, and a person who was pointing a handgun at his head in self-defense, who afterwards did what?
I mean, you don't have to take his words for it.
You can actually watch the footage that Tucker's team spliced in.
Afterwards, ran to the police lines.
He said, I've had to shoot somebody and the police officer said, um, go away, go away.
We're a little bit busy.
Then he tries to go to the Kenosha police station to surrender himself the night, the night of the incident.
And he couldn't.
Why?
Because the police station was closed.
Closed for business?
Mm-hmm.
I wonder on whose orders the police station door was locked, was barricaded from the people that the police are supposed to protect, but whose political masters said, not tonight.
Let's allow another car dealership to burn to the ground.
The story, the story he told, how he was there.
He hadn't crossed state lines illegally.
He was there because his father lives there.
He was there to clean graffiti off the vandals.
What is it they say?
No justice, no peace and graffiti.
Is that the latest BLM slogan?
He went there to help.
And then he said to the owners, And they look like minority people.
I don't want to class people.
I don't want to categorize people based upon the outward appearance, because that's what the left does.
But they weren't white.
And he goes to the owners of that car dealership, who've already had one of their dealerships burned to the ground by the people who want justice.
Yeah, justice.
That's how we get justice, by destroying private businesses.
He offered, is there anything I can do to help?
Wow.
So, I have an issue.
I've had this out with members of my family and with people who are conservative, saying, well, you know, I'm glad he was acquitted, but he shouldn't have been there.
His dad should have banned him from going.
Well, his parents were divorced.
He lived with his single mother.
He was visiting his father.
So there's one problem with that expectation.
But when your community is in flames and you're a man, albeit a young man, and you want to help?
Is that the reaction?
Is that the attitude we should say is wrong?
Is that what built this nation?
Businesses in flames and what?
You just stay at home and play computer games?
Is that what you'd prefer?
Or a young man with some sense of community service?
I don't think it's an accident.
He was a community lifeguard.
He said, can I help?
And he told the owners of that dealership, is there anything I can do?
Can I help?
They said, yes, please.
They actually requested his help because the police weren't there.
Because the mayor, the governor has said, let the streets burn.
And he volunteered, and that's why he was there with his AR-15 legally.
It wasn't a short-barreled rifle.
He hadn't crossed state lines illegally with it.
He was utterly within his rights.
And then somebody called Joseph Rosenbaum.
The clip of which we cannot actually play to you because it transgresses FCC regulations on profanity used the n-word on camera and said I'm going to kill you n-word to that 17 year old boy.
That's what Joseph Rosenbaum said that day.
Said to lots of people because he's interested in Oh yes, justice and peace, when he's not raping nine-year-old boys.
I can't even discuss what he did to those nine-year-old boys either, but he's convicted of rape.
He was charged with raping five children under the age of 12.
And that's the person who said to Carl Rittenhouse, volunteering to help his community survive another night of arson and looting, I'm going to kill you.
And sure enough, within hours, as soon as the sun set, as soon as the scum of the earth came out, he went for Kyle.
He chased him.
Everybody's seen the videos, but for some reason the prosecution hadn't and brought that Offensive case against him.
Joseph Rosenbaum chased Carl Rittenhouse, grabbed the rifle, went for the barrel of Kyle's weapon.
And Kyle, in a feat of leisure, of just self-control, incredibly, not only resolved that situation, but also when he was attacked, By Anthony Huber, who tried to kill him with a skateboard lashing out against his cranium.
Shot him as well.
Nobody else.
Nobody who's innocent was shot.
He didn't fire wantonly into the crowds.
And then the last person, Grosskreutz, with a loaded Glock handgun that he was carrying illegally, pointed at Kyle's head.
He was dealt with as well.
And he survived.
A lucky man.
But an abuser, a man who spent time in prison for strangling his brother, and a serial child rapist are dead.
Good riddance!
And now, I think Kyle's got some plans.
We'll share with you what we think we are, what those are, here on America First, after these messages.
Stay on this channel.
A lot to be said that he hit his marks, too.
I feel like we haven't talked about that.
Totally.
And didn't fire just randomly.
Didn't empty a full mag.
That's the composure.
I mean, you look at cop incidences.
17-year-old, too.
Right.
When cops, you know, open fire 42 rounds later and one hit.
You go, uh, okay.
That was, that was, yeah.
As I tweeted out, he's a composed man, well-spoken, and a damn good shot.
Yeah.
Damn good shot.
All right, so what do we have here?
Oh, I didn't do Angel Tree.
I'll do Angel Tree at the top.
We're going to John and... We did four there, right?
We did four.
Yes.
Let's come in with two and then I'll do Angel Tree.
Can we come with two, Geoff?
Yeah, hang on.
There was something on, I saw a screenshot of an NBC report on the rising prices for inflation for Thanksgiving, and one of the pieces of advice they gave was don't buy a turkey.
Because that's the solution.
We shouldn't be upset by the inflation.
Just cancel Thanksgiving.
Just don't buy a turkey.
No, that was funny, the way they did it.
They were like being serious.
Some people won't come, they're all heads against the wall.
Yeah, have less people, make it a potluck, and don't buy a turkey.
Can you pan down a little bit?
Hold on.
I gotta change it anyway for this.
Okay.
Is he on phone?
No, sorry.
He's on Skype.
Okay.
Got the...
All right.
All right, one second.
Okay.
All right, he should be here.
Huh?
Oh, can you see me?
Uh, we've got... There we go!
Hey, all right.
All right, so this is, this is, I think so many people don't understand the significance of this.
I'm going to just ask you to explain, well, just explain the whole story and how, you know, the fact that this is part of the subpoena and everything is just why that's so significant.
What cut did you want to come in with?
I want to come in with the FBI one because that's really relevant.
So the super short one.
Cut two.
And then I'm going to do Angel Tree and then I'm going to go straight to John.
And it's just one segment, John, then we'll release you.
Great, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Can you zoom in on me when you're like this?
Do you know how to do that?
Yeah.
So a little bit similar in proportion.
Good.
That's good.
30 seconds.
Perfect.
I'm going to do a stand-up Israel disclaimer here.
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Then we're coming in with that cut.
Cut two.
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Do you feel the threats?
I do.
I see some of the threats.
Some of the things people say, it's absolutely sickening.
Are you confident that the government will protect you from these threats?
Because that's, of course, the government's job.
I hope so, but we all know how the FBI works.
Wink wink.
We all know how the FBI works.
We can discuss that with our next guest, John Solomon, in a moment.
But first, you know what?
He actually reminds me of a younger version of Tucker Carlson.
I can see Carl Rittenhouse taking over the Carlson Show in a few years.
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I think we had Bernie Kerik on the show yesterday, and you've got a breaking story about Commissioner Kerik.
Tell us what's going on with Woodward, Kerik, and some very dodgy subpoenas.
Yeah, so listen, normally in Congress, the reason you issue a subpoena is to find facts, but for some reason, Benny Thompson, Adam Schiff, and the January 6th Commission decided to use a subpoena to make an allegation.
They wrote an intro to the subpoena saying, we have good reason to believe that Bernie Kerrick was in Washington, D.C.
on January 5th, attended a meeting at the Willard Hotel, and was plotting to overthrow the election results from November 2020.
And their citation for that evidence was a Bob Woodward book that just came out recently called Peril.
So we began to look into it, and there's just two problems.
First off, Bernie Kerrick was not in Washington, D.C.
on January 5th.
We tracked his toll reader and his cell phone.
He left Washington on the 4th, went to New York for a family emergency, did not come back to the morning of the 6th.
He could not have attended a meeting at the Willard Hotel.
He was not there.
But here's the bigger headline.
You go to the Bob Woodward book and you read the entire book, there is no citation whatsoever that says that Bernie Kerrick attended a meeting January 5th at the Willard Hotel.
In fact, Bernie Kerrick is not mentioned anywhere in the book.
I called Bob Woodward and said, hey, am I missing something?
He said, I never mentioned Bernie Kerrick in my book, never made such an allegation.
The committee is wrong.
The Democrats on the January 6th committee tried to politicize something that normally is a neutral fact-finding to subpoenas, and it blew up in their face.
They made a false allegation, and it's embarrassing.
They attribute it to Bob Woodward.
He denies it.
And Bernie Kerrick isn't even in the city where they allege he was.
This is remarkable, you know, as the co-author of the seminal work Fallout, John, as the person who's been, you know, cracking the story every single day for years on the fake hoax that was the Russia collusion.
Doesn't this just... I have reminiscences of Mike Cohen in Prague.
Isn't this similar?
allegations of things that never physically actually occurred.
We can go through so many of them.
Russia was filled with them, right?
An entire dossier full of bogus lies and Russian disinformation.
But let's start at one of the earlier hearings that Democrats had on January 6th.
They ran out this adjutant general who ran the National Guard in D.C. who said that big bad Trump Pentagon delayed the troops, immorally delayed the troops from coming to the Capitol to respond.
The IG just came out last week, said no such thing.
There was no delays whatsoever.
They moved at a speed.
Everything was signed within minutes.
Every time the Democrats try to create an anti-Trump narrative, it seems to fall apart because they spend little time focusing on the facts and lots of time focusing on the spin.
Am I right in saying that this January 6th committee hasn't even met for a hearing yet, John?
Oh no, they've had some, and they've had some subpoenas, and they've had a couple of hearings.
But have they had any witnesses in session?
They had, as I recall, the Judge and General was one of those first hearings.
They had an initial hearing, but they haven't done a lot.
But listen, here's the bigger thing.
The most important thing that you can deliver from a hearing like this would be, what security lessons could we learn so that we better protect the Capitol?
You don't hear any of that.
Today they subpoenaed the Proud Boys.
They're just making a political spectacle of something that Americans would like to get to the bottom of.
How did our Capitol get breached?
How can we better protect it?
That's not on anyone's radar, running that committee.
I think you'd agree with me.
In my monologue, I congratulated Tucker Carlson for that exclusive interview with Carl Rittenhouse that aired last night.
Your reaction, given everything you've written, the book you've published, a fallout with Seamus Brunner, to that very wise comment we just played, where he says, well, we all know what the FBI does, titta titta.
Your reaction, given FISA warrants, et cetera?
It validates the warning that such very smart people like Kevin Brock, a former executive of the FBI, very well respected, not a partisan guy, has said the FBI is not going to get its reputation back anytime soon because of the grave damage that Comey and McCabe and Strzok and all of those gang inflicted on the reputation and the trust Americans put in that agency.
And they just keep failing, right?
You got the Olympian case.
You just saw they're going to make large settlements to Parkland families because they failed to stop the terrorists there.
The FBI has to start focusing on crimes and less about politics and media.
They might actually get back to doing the business the American people trust them to do.
Yeah, it's something we can hope for, but I think it's not going to happen until there is a change of leadership.
And I don't just mean in the Hoover building or elsewhere, but actually politically in D.C., in the House, in the Senate.
Instead of doing witch hunts and witch trials, we actually have to have oversight.
And I'm saddened we had Jim Jordan on the show for an hour last week.
I said I would like to see him as the Speaker of the House, but he said, nope, we've got to win the midterms.
And then he wants to be the head of the Judiciary Committee and have some real accountability, not these witch hunts.
The article, we're going to post it right now on Twitter and on our Facebook pages, is Bob Woodward.
Toll booth records undercut January 6th panel claim Kerrick attended some secret DC meeting.
He's breaking the news with his colleagues every single day.
Bookmark it at justthenews.com and follow him on Twitter at jsolimanreports.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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We will be analyzing the Rittenhouse case, what happened in Waukesha as well, with none other than Greg Jarrett as well in the first hour.
Then we'll be talking to Lord Conrad Black.
What does the acquittal mean for the judicial system in general?
And then the Baron will be in studio.
Yes, my former White House colleague Boris Epstein.
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All right.
Okay.
Thank you, John!
He's gone.
He's got Enes Kanter on the box cover.
I know, wearing his Turkish shirt.
Can you write down a title for that segment?
Massive fail for Jan 6, for Nancy's Jan 6 committee.
And then 1A, let's call... What Tucker's Rittenhouse interview means.
Can you pick up the phones and just tell them to hold?
America First, what's your name?
Alright, where are you calling from?
Who does he play for?
Alright, what do you want to say?
I think it's Oklahoma City.
I can look.
He's bounced around a little bit.
but he might be the Celtics, but I don't remember.
I think he's been playing pretty well this year, I think.
He is playing for the Celtics right now.
It's a pretty big market.
All right, hang on.
All right.
All right.
What did I say today?
Who have they subpoenaed?
It was Alex Jones, Roger Stone, and there's three other people.
Really?
The one person was the woman that started the Facebook page Stop to Steal.
that was up for a day before it was taken down so it's uh they just come out with five new people every two weeks I know, I know.
Jones... That thing with Bannon, that was outside the FBI, right?
What thing?
When he did that little presser.
I don't know where...
Wherever he turned himself in, I'm not sure.
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Amazing, amazing audio about the President of the United States.
Sadly, that man is currently Joe Biden.
But Carl Rittenhouse had something to say about what candidate Biden said about him.
Cut one.
Play cuts.
What did you make of the President of the United States calling you a white supremacist?
Mr. President, if I could say one thing to you, I would urge you to go back and watch the trial and understand the facts before you make a statement.
That's not a small thing to be called that.
No, it's actual malice defaming my character for him to say something like that.
Malice and defamation, those are very specific legal terms.
I think somebody has been talking to young Kyle about, well, his financial future and what happened to the Covington kids.
And he can sue, yes, he can sue the man in the White House, because what he said, that defamation occurred when he was a private citizen on the campaign trail.
Explained superbly by none other than the Great One, Mark Levin.
Cut six.
This is Mark Levin's analysis of what Kyle just said.
Play cuts.
All right, let's take Biden first.
Based on the Bill Clinton case, the Paula Jones case, he absolutely does have a case against Joe Biden.
There is no presidential immunity because he wasn't president.
It was a private citizen, and the Supreme Court ruled on that.
Yes, you can bring a civil case against somebody who becomes President of the United States based on what they've done prior to that time.
So he would have a case against Joe Biden, even though he's a public figure.
Look, even though the Supreme Court has rewritten the First Amendment in a way that protects reprobates in public office, You can still overcome it.
If somebody makes a definitive statement that you are a white supremacist and they have no evidence whatsoever, and they had no evidence at the time, despite all the levels the courts have put in place, that is a strong case.
That is the case law.
Malice.
You knew it wasn't true, Biden, and you said it anyway.
So what did that young man from Covington Catholics get from CNN?
We don't know exactly.
It's between two and three hundred million.
Maybe these young men can fix the media for us.
Let's go to your calls.
Matt, North Carolina, line one.
Hello, Dr. Gorka, commander of Conservative Radio.
I have a very interesting question for you.
Yes.
The man with the handgun that became a witness for the prosecution pointing it at Kyle Rittenhouse, okay?
He's a convicted rapist, correct?
No, no, that's the first guy, Joseph Rosenbaum.
He also had a criminal record.
Grosskreutz did have a criminal record, but it wasn't for rape.
Okay, but the guy pointing the handgun at Kyle Rittenhouse, what did he expect Kyle Rittenhouse to do?
Yeah, I...
Don't ask me.
I'm not a convicted felon.
I understand that, sir.
But I mean, if someone does that to me or you, I can't speak for you.
If they do it to me, I'm going to kill them first.
Yeah.
Well, look, he got shot.
He almost had his whole arm dislocated or shot off thanks to Kyle defending himself.
So it's a good question.
What are these people doing there anyway?
They're not protesters.
They're felons.
And one of them is a child rapist, as far as I'm concerned, got what he deserved.
Thank you, Matt.
Let's go to Michelle, North Carolina, line two.
Hey, Dr. G, how are you?
Good.
I just wanted to say that, you know, when he was found innocent, I almost cried.
I was so happy for him.
And, you know, I really think that too, that he shot and killed, I think he did society a service.
We don't need people like that.
It's very hard to disagree with that.
Here's my take on it.
You abuse a child, you rape a child once, you should get the death penalty.
I don't care if you don't like it.
You do that to the most vulnerable in society, you get the death penalty.
You do it five times.
As far as I'm concerned, if I were king for a day, you should be killed slowly.
Serial child rapist.
Kill them slowly as far as I'm concerned and I would volunteer to be the executioner.
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JCN.
Yes!
What have we done?
Uh, you can drop two.
Hey, Jeff, can you play the Greg Jarrett cut for me?
Yeah.
Look at every major city in America that is run by blue politicians, and you will find criminals terrorizing communities.
Because the liberals and the progressives and the radical democrats have worked, Sean, assiduously over the last several years to do several things.
To defund police, to dismantle the prison system, to cancel jail, and to abolish bail.
And this is the new woke enlightenment where criminals are the victims and victims are the criminals.
Great, good.
Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gorka.
Good, but you know, just remember the mics, they're live on Rumpel during the breaks, alright?
Hang on.
Hey, Greg.
Hey, how are you?
Good, enjoying the cut I just played of your description of the woke enlightenment I'll be using and then I'll come straight to you.
Okay, good.
What crazy days we live in.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you vote for a radical, progressive DA who, you know, decides that it's okay to let people walk on the street even though they're dangerous and this is what you get.
Yeah, but the question is, is there no, you know, consequence for their actions, for these individuals?
Yeah, it comes, it comes at the ballot box.
Yeah, right, right.
When are voters gonna wake up?
Yep.
Wake up, wake up!
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Why are we where we are today?
Overzealous prosecutors when it comes to innocent young men, and then when it is career criminals like Daryl Brooks with a rap sheet going back to 1999.
He's on a $500 bail, is released, and then plows his car through those innocent people at that Christmas parade.
Well, maybe it has something to do with ideology.
Summed up perfectly by the chief legal mind, we resort to Fox News' own Greg Jarrett.
Cut five!
Play cut!
Do we have COP5?
Look at every major city in America that is run by blue politicians, and you will find criminals terrorizing communities.
Because the liberals and the progressives and the radical Democrats have worked, Sean, assiduously over the last several years to do several things to defund police, to dismantle the prison system, to cancel jail, and to abolish bail.
And this is the new woke enlightenment where criminals are the victims and victims are the criminals.
Greg, welcome back to America First.
We're talking to the author of The Witch Hunt and The Russia Hoax.
You have been a legal commentator, a practicing lawyer for decades.
I want everybody to check out your website, TheGregJarrett.com.
I have to ask you this, a naive question.
Have you found a reason for this woke ideology.
Why?
Why we have people walking out?
No cash bails.
The law should be the realm of the rational.
What is the objective here, Greg?
Well, the woke crowd, as I say, progressives, liberals, radical Democrats, they don't believe in the principle crime and punishment.
They believe in crime and no punishment.
Because, you know, their kumbaya, ignorant attitude is violent criminals are the misunderstood.
They're the mistreated victims.
You know, the real criminals, they alleged, are the law-abiding citizens who are racist depressors.
And of course, you know, Sebastian, that is stupid and insane.
What's equally stupid and insane are voters who haven't yet got fed up enough to vote these chowder heads out of office like the Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm.
Here's a guy who admitted that his progressive ideas, reforms on bail, might lead to an individual being let go and committing murder.
You think?
And it happened on Sunday in his jurisdiction in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Five people are dead, and 48 are injured.
And this is the example that he was pressured about, that somebody was going to get out because of his stupidity on bail and kill.
And that's what happened.
Do you think we may be, given all the years you've been watching this insanity, do you think that recent events, Walker Shore, Kyle Rittenhouse, the BLM violence, Antifa, do you think we may be approaching that point at which there is a critical mass of Americans who say, this is crazy?
Well, you would think so, right?
Logically, reasonably, intelligently.
But I see no sign of it in places like New York.
Uh, which, you know, in my term of living there for almost 30 years, working there for almost 30 years, you know, it's gone from the safest big city in the nation to this hellhole of indiscriminate violence.
And, you know, I lived in San Francisco.
It used to be a beautiful, clean, safe city in the decade I lived there.
It's a disgusting, crime-ridden mess.
Flash mobs vandalizing and looting with no resistance.
Because that's what the woke liberals have wrought in those two cities, and I see no evidence that it's going to change anytime soon.
We're talking to Greg Jarrett.
Bookmark his webpage right now, TheGregJarrett.com.
The books are, of course, The Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt, and you can follow him on Twitter at TheGregJarrett.
Greg, do you think that, look, there are many people who've mapped What organizations funded by George Soros and others have done to fund crazy ideological DAs across the country and positions at county or even lower levels.
Do we have to wait for somebody who's a conservative who believes in law and order to do the same?
Are we condemned to this insanity until the, I don't know, the anti-George Soros appears?
Does it have to be a political response to the lack of sanity in law and order?
I guess so.
I mean, inevitably, that seems to be the case.
You know, Albany is stacked with crazy Democrats, and, you know, they're the ones who undertook this, you know, no-bail law.
They backed off a little bit, but not enough.
I mean, I was just watching a couple of hours ago a video of what happened in New York, I think it was overnight, where, you know, a gang Went after a guy in a wheelchair, and they beat him senseless, threw him to the ground, stole his money and his cell phone.
A man in a wheelchair.
This is out on the streets of New York.
So, you know, and in New York, I think, what is it, 7 to 1, 9 to 1, Democrats over Republicans in registration?
You know, they just elected a new DA who's, you know, equally radical.
Um, so, you know, with guys like that in office who are supposed to be upholding the law, instead they seem to be aiding and abetting the criminals and determined to hurt innocent civilians who are the victims of crime.
It's a world upside down.
I think that person is out there, that anti-George Soros.
Elon Musk, are you listening?
We need some sanity.
We need a funded organization that pushes back on those who see the criminals as the victims.
Thank you, Greg Jarrett.
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By the way, way that Wisconsin law sucks and is part of this move towards stand your ground that removes the duty to retreat and that you can only use deadly force after you've exhausted all other means now in deference to the outcome in this case and why I believe it was the right decision in terms of the correct decision under the law for the jury this guy Rittenhouse did retreat he
He ran away more than once, which gave him a veil of protection with his jury, obviously.
A veil of protection?
Not justified in your actions.
A veil of protection.
Yep.
Can you do nine quickly, Colbert?
Duty to retreat.
Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted on all counts.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
Cards on the table.
I'm not a legal expert.
So I can't tell you whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse broke the law.
But I can tell you this.
If he didn't break the law, we should change the law.
Thank you.
That seems simple.
Unbelievable.
Okay, yeah.
Coming in with anything?
No, I'm gonna tee up the Lin-Wood cut three.
You got the hero in my pillow here if you want it.
Okay.
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What he had to say from that great patriot.
Lin Wood, you need to hear it.
I was in jail for 87 days and this goes as follows in with Lin Wood who Lin Wood was raising money on my behalf and he held me in jail for 87 days disrespecting my wishes put me on media interviews which I should never have done which he said oh you're gonna go talk to the Washington Post which was not a good idea along with John Pierce they said I was safer in jail instead of at home with my family
And then after I'm bailed out... Your lawyer said that?
My lawyer said that.
John Pearson, Lynn Wood.
87 days is a long time to be in jail.
It was very long.
I lost a lot of weight in there.
I since then gained it back.
I know the feeling.
Yeah.
But 87 days of not being with my family, for defending myself, and being taken advantage to, being used for a cause by these, by John Pearson, Lin Wood, trying to solicit, not solicit, trying to raise money so they can take it for their own benefit, not trying to set me free.
I warned you Lin Wood was.
I told you he was a psycho.
Thanks to him, we lost Georgia.
And then what does he do after the election?
He says, Mike Pence, on record, should be shot by an execution squad.
You're a lunatic.
You're a psycho!
But worse than that, according to that young man, who I trust, you profited from his incarceration.
You kept him in prison for almost three months.
You made him do stupid interviews with the lying media.
So what?
You could make more money.
That's who Lin Wood is.
Wake up, people.
And don't tell me, oh, he's not a criminal defense attorney.
I don't care.
He was advising that 17-year-old young man, and he is despicable.
That's all you need to know about Lin Wood.
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Thank you.
Fine.
I'm about to send a new cut in.
I sent them the MTG.
They have that headline there asking about the Fedros.
They sent a big list of all the elements.
I haven't looked at it yet.
Is there any way you can show me the new cut?
No, I got it.
It's right around here to 7 to 9 minutes.
7 to 9?
Yeah.
Just play it for a minute so I know what it is.
Somewhere in here.
I don't think it's purple anymore.
Talk to us, comparative to the 1990s and today.
What has happened to the Democrat Party?
Speaking English.
Well, I think it's very clear that almost like the Bolshevik takeover from Kerensky in the second Russian Revolution, that you had a hard left. - Thank you.
Partially, I think, because of the repudiation of Hillary Clinton and the rise of Bernie Sanders, who is a genuine, avowed, open socialist.
To describe Sanders as a socialist is not to defame him.
It's the word he uses.
Second, I think you have great disappointment in the Clinton presidency on the left and disappointment in the Obama presidency.
The hard left wants to change America into a radically different country.
And they were tired of dealing with people who kept compromising.
And so they somehow drive Biden into being the vehicle for genuine deep radicalism.
I point out to people.
Does he have that phrase in it?
Genuine deep radicalism.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
I think it's.
So when was it that you were arrested?
I was arrested on August 25th at around 6am.
I was formally arrested without a criminal complaint being drafted.
They didn't know what they were charging me with yet.
They just arrested me.
At home?
At Antioch Police Department.
What'd your parents say when you called them and told them what had happened?
I didn't call my mom after I saw her, and she was in shock.
She was like, uh, she wanted to go into hiding, and I said, no, the right thing to do would be to turn myself in.
I didn't do anything wrong.
So you knew that from the very beginning?
I knew that.
A lot of people are like, oh, Kyle had time to meet with his attorneys to come up with this amazing defense of self-defense.
No, that's not the case.
This has been 100% self-defense from the beginning.
And I didn't know there was 100 cameras, but I did know I was attacked and I defended myself.
What do you think would have happened to you if there hadn't been the amount of video that there is?
I can't even imagine.
I don't think we'd be sitting here right now having this talk, Tucker.
That's for sure.
An impressive, impressive interview.
Congratulations to my former Fox colleague Tucker Carlson for that 40-minute exclusive with Carl Rittenhouse.
But more importantly, congratulations to that young man.
I don't think at the age of 18 I could have been as well-spoken, as self-possessed, and as Blunt about what happened to me as Kyle Rittenhouse was in that interview.
Somebody who has written a seminal piece on that work, a regular guest of this show, one of your favorites, historian, columnist, financier, justice reform advocate, Conrad Black.
Follow Lord Black at ConradMBlack.
His latest article is on the Rittenhouse prosecutors and the problem with America's justice system.
Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
Always a pleasure to be with you.
Conrad, there is a sentence a third of the way in through your article where you write this, in all of this the trial in Kenosha was indeed a vindication of the American legal system but then there is a subheading where you go on to say when it comes to the prosecutorial behavior Not so much.
Explain the true takeaway.
As somebody who's been on the wrong side of, let me put it mildly, overzealous prosecutors, what is the real take-home from this sad occurrence?
Well, look, there's no doubt in my mind that this is a case where justice was done and where, unfortunately, not untypically dishonest and Over-aggressive prosecutors were exposed.
They were exposed before a television audience, spanning the world, but certainly heavily, including a vast swath of the American population.
Before millions of people, they were exposed with false prosecution and the attempt to put across in court a spurious misinterpretation of the Constitution.
In the attempt to teethe the jury by claiming that it was tantamount to an admission of guilt for the accused to remain silent in interrogation.
That is absolutely not right, and the U.S.
Constitution is unambiguous that everyone has an absolute right to silence.
And that fact in itself must not be construed as an admission of guilt.
And secondly, in this preposterous uh... argument improvised for the uh... for the occasion that the right of self-defense uh... only existed if your opponent uh... had a uh... firearm or equally lethal weapon to hand That isn't the case.
I mean, you can defend yourself against someone, you know, attacking you with his fists, if that's what it is.
But in this case, of course, someone smashed him over the head with a skateboard.
Someone else kicked him in the face.
And the third person against him, who still has apparently no right to self-defense, admitted, as a prosecution witness, that he pointed a gun right in his face.
Point-blank range.
And the prosecution's claim was that did not bring to life any right to self-defense such as was exercised by the accused.
Well, this is just an outrage.
And everyone can see it's an outrage.
But unfortunately, excellent, I think, in these respects, though, this verdict was.
Cases go on every day in courts all around the United States where such outrages are, in fact, successful.
And do obtain convictions where none should be issued.
Talk to us in your piece and in your autobiographies that anyone can read, your amazing story, A Matter of Principle is the first one I'm enjoying right now.
You give these shocking statistics, you have a comparison between the UK, Canada, Well, in the United States, in the federal criminal system, it varies in the states, and some of those have a much more presentable record of demonstrable fairness.
But in the U.S.
court why are those figures so disturbing lord black well in the united states in the federal criminal system i had varies in the states and some of those have a much more presentable record of demonstrable fairness but in the u.s federal prosecutions uh Approximately 98% of prosecutions are at least partially successful.
They get a conviction and 95% of those are without a trial.
And that is because essentially of the plea bargain rule.
Um, let us say you are targeted, uh, the, um, the authorities, the US attorney come around and, Interview the eight people closest to you in whatever activity is subjected to, and they say, you know that Dr. Gorka is clearly guilty of a terrible offense here, and you knowing him as well as you do, and these matters must have evidence of that, and we want that evidence.
And your friends say, that's rubbish, I've known him for 20 years, he's non-semitic, the word of it must be mistaken identity.
And then they say something to the effect, well that's fine, but If you don't successfully jog your memory to produce something useful to our case, then we know that a conspiracy to obstruct justice is a fraud.
You're part of it, and you will be charged.
If, on the other hand, you do succeed in jogging your memory and produce something of use to the prosecution, you will not be charged, and we will give you an absolute immunity from prosecution or sue for perjury.
In other words, you've got to blank check and make up evidence, say anything you want as long as it's helpful to us, you will not be called to account for it on a perjury count, and we'll commend you as a cooperating person.
You know, any prosecution or any individual in such a powerful position as a prosecutor, armed with that absolute right to extort or suborn perjury to the system and getting a conviction, It is open to a terrible temptation.
Now, some prosecutors are scrupulously honest and play it right down the middle and behave in an exemplary fashion.
But it is only human nature that there's a terrible amount of abuse.
I mean, Lord Acton famously said, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
So you have this basically open and shut Conviction rate in the U.S.
federal courts and the comparatives in other countries are much less.
In Canada and Britain it's I think 50 and 61 percent.
Yes.
And that's not because they're poor prosecutors.
It's just that the defense has a proper chance to put on its case and unlike any states, it speaks last to the jury, not ahead of the prosecutors.
And the fact is the prosecutors are under some pressure And it means other countries to produce a serious case and not waste the court's time with a kind of sketchy, you know, wild shot at a prosecution under political pressure to charge somebody, which does occur often, as we all know, when the public's outraged by a terrible crime and wants someone prosecuted right away.
Well, it's a system that's terribly, badly broken down that way, and the result of it is The United States has 5% of the world's population, but 25% of its incarcerated people.
It has 6 to 12 times as many incarcerated people per capita as Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, and the UK.
All of them prosperous democracies.
I mean, they're smaller countries in the US, but altogether they're a larger population, and they have a much lower incarceration rate, but they also have lower crime rates.
So that system in the United States at the federal level isn't working.
It's a great thing it worked in the Rittenhouse case.
But it's a great thing the country saw just how nasty and dishonest those prosecutors were.
We are talking to Lord Conrad Black, the...
The latest article is Kenosha prosecutors exemplify the problem with America's justice system.
He is a justice reform advocate.
You can read his story in A Matter of Principle as well as Backward Glances.
We will be back to discuss The broader political ramifications of what we are witnessing in our judicial system here in the United States.
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Lord Conrad Black, we have breaking news there.
The so-called January 6th Insurrection Committee has subpoenaed Roger Stone, has subpoenaed a podcaster called Alex Jones, this on top of the recent subpoenas for a Chief of Staff to the President, Mark Meadows, as well as Steve Bannon.
To broaden the aperture on the Kyle Rittenhouse case, a young boy who was accused of being a white supremacist, are we Witnessing an attempt by one political party in the mainstream media to criminalize conservatives?
I hope that's a slight overstatement, but there certainly is something approaching that.
We've reached the point, and we saw it, we saw it over the last year since the election, that the response of
of the coalition that supported the present administration, after their ostensible victory, although it is in many respects, despite attempts to suppress this fact, a tainted victory, to say that the 48% of the population, even under their funny counting system, that voted for President Trump, simply have to be reformed, they have to be taught the error of their ways, and they have to be convinced to
To abandon any such notions as what caused them to vote for such a person.
And we see some of that in the outrageous treatment of the hundreds of people who were detained following the obviously very regrettable and scandalous incident on January 6th, when people trespassed in and conducted vandalism to some degree in the U.S.
Capitol.
Because, I mean, The Speaker of the House, Pelosi, and the Mayor of Washington, Bowser, ignored repeated requests from the Chief of the Capitol Police to reinforce him because he suspected there would be demonstrators.
But after that incident, hundreds of people have been detained for months, many of them in solitary.
Well, presumably being sweated in the American prosecutorial fashion, where they will be granted a soft charge or a complete discharge if they can produce evidence critical of those whom they're really after, which was in this case the Trump campaign, to put flesh on the bones of the absolute fraud that somebody was trying to conduct an insurrection.
And so this went on for months and months, and people were made to sign sort of Stalinist confessions Biden was elected legally, as if that was any business of an individual citizen of the country to attest or such attestation at any relevance to anything.
There is no doubt that what's gone on here is to some degree an atomization of the country into aggrieved racial or economic groups, and to some degree a kind of escalation of ambitions, not just to win an election and implement a program, but to completely destroy and stigmatize the opposition, which in this case officially was 48% of the country, but in policy terms, was clearly a majority of the country.
And the majority of people approved of Trump's policies.
His problems, apart from vote-rigging, I mean, I'd spent two to one being deplatformed by the oligarchic social media cartel, and being smeared by 95% of the press 24 hours a day for five years.
Apart from all of that, His problem was the perception of his personality, not his policies, which were steadily supported by a majority.
So how do they justify this idea, even if you accepted the complete strangulation of democracy implicit in it, of saying they will cancel out the opinions of the majority in policy terms as they disenfranchise him?
You've written seminal histories of Richard Nixon, of FDR, and most recently a work on President Trump.
How worrisome should it be that a chief of staff To a slight degree.
important political appointee next to a president can just be subpoenaed willy-nilly after an election on charges for which there are no merit.
The idea that Mark Meadows was a key player in some kind of insurrection, isn't this a blow to the fabric of our republic?
To a slight degree.
I don't take it as serious as you do, because what's involved here is a misdemeanor.
I was completely scandalized that Steve Bannon, having reported to be arraigned on this misdemeanor by agreement, was, for the benefit of the media, handcuffed and shackled at his ankles.
A man about to be charged with misdemeanor, never convicted of anything.
and a clear political opponent of the people conducting this charade.
I mean, I found that more alarming.
Roger Stone having a minor replication of the invasion of Normandy conducted at his house at six in the morning for the benefit of CNN's prearranged cameras.
They attacked this house by land, sea, and air.
And then he's an elderly man with an elderly wife and a cat who didn't have a passport, wasn't going anywhere, and had never been accused of anything, and whose lawyer was happy to deliver him to be processed.
I mean, it's...
That sort of thing is egregious.
In the case of Mark Meadows, he's not, as far as anyone knows, being accused of anything.
And he will give a very good account of himself, and I think they're making a mistake calling a person like that, because I think he will assist, if he submits to questioning, in making the case before the whole country, which will be watching, that this is just an absolute disgrace.
It's just an additional attempt to slander and defame former President Trump, and to try and render even slightly believable Yes.
I do believe it will be an own goal.
We've been talking to Lord Black.
Read his article.
We are posting it now.
an attempt to overthrow the government the way Lenin did in Russia.
I do believe it will be an own goal.
We've been talking to Lord Black.
Read his article.
We are posting it now.
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