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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Bannon's back!

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	you see these signs right here and the guys over here saying insurrection and all that That's what this country's about.
	It's freedom of speech.
	They got their opinions.
	We have our opinions.
	OK, hang on.
	They have their opinions.
	I'm telling you right now, this is going to be the misdemeanor from hell for Merrick Garland, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden ordered Merrick Garland to prosecute me from the White House when he got off Marine One.
	And we're going to go on the offense.
	We're tired of playing defense.
	We're going to go on the offense on this and stand by.
	Whichever way you look at it, Bannon's back.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network across the nation with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump.
	And you just heard the former chief strategist to President Trump, my old boss, Steve.
	He is, without a doubt, today more powerful than he has ever been, even in comparison to his time in the White House.
	We're going to dissect all of the breaking news.
	We're going to talk to Jenna Ellis, former attorney to President Trump.
	We're going to have Lord Conrad Black on this show.
	We're going to have Claudia Tenney, the congresswoman from New York, who's fighting to find out exactly what happened with our last elections.
	And Senator Marsha Blackburn.
	A totally packed show, but targets of opportunity when we meet people at events downtown DC and we say, Hey, I know you!
	You should come on my show today!
	That's exactly what we do, and we are delighted to have with us the Chief Communications Officer for the, well, just the guys that protect and fight for small businesses in America.
	It's the Job Creators Network, and she's Elaine Parker.
	Elaine, welcome in studio, finally!
	I know.
	So great to run into you today.
	Thank you for having me.
	Well, thank you for agreeing.
	I dragged you away from a conference where Newt Gingrich was speaking.
	I'm going to tell you, wow, Newt was on form today.
	I'll share with you what Newt had to say about the predicament we find ourselves in as a republic.
	But let's talk about what you're doing.
	We have this new amazing URL from JCN.
	It's BlockTheMandate.com.
	So guys, you've got to check it out.
	Go to BlockTheMandate.com.
	Tell us about the 5th Circuit Court.
	Tell us about the Temporary State.
	Tell us about everything in the 8th Circuit and what JCN is doing for how many, what is it, 60 plus million Americans work for small businesses?
	Exactly.
	60 million people are employed by 30 million small businesses.
	So you're talking about almost 100 million people, you know, that are directly impacted and survive on small businesses.
	And it's a huge community and they impact our economy in just such a huge way.
	Right.
	So tell us what the situation is with regards to the mandates.
	What's the JobCredits Network doing and what are the prospects?
	Sure, so Job Creators Network, along with some of our small business owners, filed a lawsuit in the 8th Circuit, actually, the day that the rule was announced.
	And so far, we know that the 5th Circuit has taken, moved very quickly, within three days they issued a stay.
	We then put out a release asking for that stay to be implemented basically nationally.
	And it was unclear whether or not it was national or just for the people who were listed in that complaint.
	And then on Friday, they reaffirmed the Fifth Circuit's stay as well.
	As a national stay or just to the people who'd filed in the Fifth?
	I believe it was as a national.
	And at the same time, our case started moving along in the Eighth Circuit.
	And they requested that DOJ reply to our complaint by Friday, which they did.
	And then we responded as well.
	And what's your argument?
	What is JCN, the parties to this case?
	Look, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm just going to put it out there.
	It is clear to a layman that OSHA is about hard hats on building sites.
	OSHA has no right, it has no governmental authority, no constitutional mandate to tell you that you've got to put something in your body.
	So is it the argument that OSHA is overstepping its mandate?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, you could argue the case for us.
	It is very simple.
	I'm very expensive.
	Trust me, but I'm happy to.
	It is very simple.
	OSHA is overstepping its bounds, overstepping its authority.
	They were never meant to regulate health care in the workplace.
	It is not their position to do so.
	Fundamentally, we believe that these conversations should be happening between you and your doctor, not you and your boss.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, and frankly, we just think it's so disingenuous that the administration continues to frame this as a big business mandate because, in fact, they've set it up that it impacts employers who have 100 or more employees.
	Now, Sebastian.
	Biden's own Small Business Administration defines a small business as any company under 500.
	So you're talking about, you know, a huge swath of our small business community and at least, you know, 20 million plus employees impacted by this mandate.
	And we've done monthly polls for our monthly monitor.
	We poll small businesses nationally every month.
	44% of small business owners believe that they will have employees quit over this mandate.
	And after facing the worst labor shortage we've seen ever in recorded U.S.
	history, to have people walking off the job, I mean, they just can't afford to lose people.
	So this administration continues to attack small businesses.
	They've done nothing to help them, and they continue to attack them and hurt them while they try to come out of this pandemic and recover.
	But you said something fascinating as we were standing next to the coffee table at this conference today when Newt was speaking.
	You said, they've admitted, they've tweeted it out.
	The administration, the deputy press secretary has said, well, just comply anyway.
	The federal court has said don't, but you should comply anyway.
	And then the chief of staff, this risible character, Ron Klein, said, well, it's a workaround.
	A workaround around the Constitution?
	Yeah, we don't do that here in America.
	So, could these be parts of the way you argue the case?
	That you clearly have a lawless administration that is trying to impose things that a court says you can't impose, that are saying, let's do an end run around the Constitution.
	What's going to be the next thing?
	Is this going to get to the Supreme Court?
	If so, how quickly, Elaine?
	We think this will make it to the Supreme Court.
	And fast.
	And fast.
	And we think that the Supreme Court will absolutely squash this.
	Really?
	You have confidence?
	Very much so.
	Every circuit in the country has litigation with the exception of one.
	So there are a lot of cases out there to get through.
	They're going to go into a lottery, basically, and they'll all be put into one district anyway, and they'll end up funneling right up into the Supreme Court.
	And look, you mentioned that the administration, you know what they're doing.
	So in spite of a federal court issuing a stay on this mandate, they continue to tell businesses to follow their mandate.
	And I just think, and we think, that it's their admission that they smell defeat, and that they know they've overstepped, they know they're going to lose this, and they simply want to bully businesses into complying with this mandate before they get squashed on it.
	It's a good way of putting it.
	We opened this show with that amazing statement outside the FBI from Steve Bannon.
	Bannon worked for Breitbart, as did I. And the man who we lost far too early, Andrew Breitbart, was about one thing above all else.
	He's a great patriot.
	He loved this nation.
	He was a genius when it came to social media.
	But what Andrew Breitbart hated the most was bullies.
	He fought against bullies, whether it was Acorn, whether it was the mainstream legacy media, and that's what we need to do right now because right now it's clear from your telling, Elaine, our government have become bullies to small businesses and to employees everywhere.
	Yeah, there's no shortage of bullying right now that's happening.
	And that's why we're not going to stand for it.
	I mean, our charter is to defend small businesses.
	And so we're going to defend them in this litigation.
	We've got about a half a dozen small businesses that are part of this litigation.
	And when you hear their stories, I mean, I had one small business owner from Stewart, Florida.
	with me yesterday, and we actually testified in an informal roundtable discussion with the House Freedom Caucus, which is chaired by Congressman Andy Biggs.
	Yes.
	And they wanted to talk about and understand how this mandate was going to impact small businesses.
	What are the long-term ramifications?
	And when you hear the story from this small business owner who says, look, I've got key employees who have said, if you implement this, I'm going to leave.
	Yeah.
	And then it's not 30% of businesses that didn't come back after COVID.
	It's going to be another 30% that was shut down by this government.
	This organization is fighting.
	It's the Job Creators Network, JCN.com.
	Sign up today.
	Go to BlockTheMandate.com.
	That's BlockTheMandate.com.
	Back with Senator Blackburn.
	Back with Senator Blackburn.
	Thank you.
	Back with Senator Blackburn.
	Thank you.
	Oh, let's unblock the court lines.
	There we go.
	Okay, back on.
	Back on.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Stand by.
	We coming in with anything?
	No. No.
	No.
	Thank you.
	First with Sebastian Gorka.
	You should understand, Nancy Pelosi is taking on Donald Trump and Steve Bannon.
	She ought to ask Hillary Clinton how that turned out for them, okay?
	We're going on the offense.
	Again, Steve Bannon outside the FBI.
	Do you know they arrested him?
	Not only did they handcuff him, they put him in leg shackles.
	Leg shackles.
	You know, the serial child rapist.
	who tried to kill Kyle Rittenhouse is the hero of the left, but Steve Bannon is the guy in handcuffs and shackles.
	But the message is clear!
	The message is clear.
	How did it work out for you, Hillary?
	We need more freedom fighters like Steve.
	And by the way, it was just delicious the way the only person he spoke to was, of course, Breitbart News.
	Let's listen to another freedom fighter.
	This is from a hearing with One of the most despicable members of the cabinet.
	His name is Mayorkas.
	He's supposed to secure the border, but he's messing with the wrong senator.
	This is Mayorkas with Senator Marsha Blackburn.
	Play cut.
	Let me ask you this, yes or no, have you ever visited the White House?
	Have I visited the White House?
	Yes.
	Have you ever visited the White House?
	Yes.
	So you're aware there is a fence around the entire perimeter of the White House to prevent unauthorized individuals From entering the White House, correct?
	Yes.
	And U.S.
	taxpayers are also funding a half-million-dollar fence around President Biden's Rehoboth Beach House, correct?
	I'm not aware of that.
	And your department is overseeing this construction.
	You should be aware of that.
	President Biden obviously likes walls when they protect him.
	So can you explain to me why a wall is effective and necessary at the White House and the Biden Beach House, but is not necessary at the southern border?
	Well that lady is with us right now.
	She's a good friend of America First.
	Senator Marsha Blackburn representing the state of Tennessee.
	Did you get an answer from Mayorkas as to why there is no wall on the border but there is one in Rojoba?
	No, I did not get a workable answer from him, and also I felt like he was very condescending, very arrogant, and very dismissive of the questions.
	He didn't appreciate that the American people do not agree with him and do not share his opinion on the southern border.
	So do you concur with me?
	You know, I'm often asked, you know, who's the worst person in this administration?
	It's clearly the man at the top has no idea what's going on.
	But when you look at the fact that Mayorkas actually worked at DHS before, If you talk to people who took that job seriously, like Mark Morgan and others, like Tom Homan, they will tell you Mayorkas knows what it takes to secure the border.
	The fact that he is willfully doing the opposite today must put him up there as one of the most, I'll put it politely, malfeasant members of this regime.
	Do you concur, Senator?
	I think that he is indeed not performing his duty, and as we hear from people that were there in the Trump administration, bad policies were floating all through the Department of Homeland Security.
	They had implemented the DACA program.
	They started putting unaccompanied alien children onto military posts.
	They used these fenced secure areas, as they call them, under Obama, but they call them cages under Trump.
	So this is all something that they were doing in order to try to contain this situation.
	And now, of course, Trump was bad.
	Everything Trump did was bad.
	That is the mantra that they have.
	When indeed, as I pointed out to Secretary Mayorkas today, that it was not Trump's wall.
	It was that President Trump listened to the Border Patrol and gave them what they were asking for.
	They had been asking for a wall, more technology, and greater security for about 30 years.
	And President Trump said, OK, here you go.
	We'll do this.
	But, you know, what they're trying to do is undo all of that because it happened under President Trump.
	Follow this lady at Marsha Blackburn on Twitter, blackburn.senate.gov.
	What are the options open to us?
	Those who understand that two million illegals crossing our border this calendar year is not a good thing.
	The national security ramifications, the humanitarian ramifications, the drug overdoses that will accrue because of that.
	If we're in minority, can individual states do something?
	Does the GOP have a plan?
	Tell us that we don't have to just wait until the midterms.
	Well, what we are doing is pushing back every day, and Sebastian, I think that the more that the American people hear, the more they learn about what this administration is doing and the way they stand up and push back, that is a very good thing for our nation, for our sovereignty, for our freedom, because
	While you have Secretary Mayorkas sitting there and saying that protecting the nation's sovereignty is paramount, he has a border that is more open and a higher number of illegal entrants, both those that have been apprehended and the gotaways, the ones that have evaded We are watching right now live from the courthouse in Kenosha.
	you will.
	And they're just running into the country.
	But the American people are standing up and pushing back.
	And thank goodness they are.
	We are watching right now live from the courthouse in Kenosha.
	We are expecting the verdict to be announced in the Kyle Rittenhouse case momentarily.
	We will keep you apprised of it.
	But right now we're talking to Tennessee's Marsha Blackburn, the senator.
	Follow her at blackburn.senate.gov.
	You've been very vocal, including on your social media accounts, with regards to this regime's, the Biden White House's, approach to China.
	We've seen the footage of Xi Jinping with Biden.
	How worried are you that, again, they are getting the wrong message from Biden in Beijing?
	I think they probably hung up the phone last night and had a good laugh.
	What do you think?
	I do.
	I agree.
	I think it's very sad, very troublesome, and worrisome.
	As you and I have discussed many times, the Chinese Communist Party, the ruling party of China, they are a part of the axis of evil, along with Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
	They are intent on global domination.
	They are not our friend.
	They are not our competitor.
	They are our adversary and we have to treat them as such.
	Yeah, despite what we may hear from the likes of Mark Milley and others, the Secretary of State as well, Blinken, this is the only strategic enemy we face and it is sadly a peer competitor.
	We've been talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn.
	She's the author of The Mind of a Conservative Woman, Seeking the Best for Family and Country.
	Follow her at Marsha Blackburn.
	God bless you, Senator, for fighting the good fight.
	Our door is always open to you.
	Your call is next here on America First, 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That chyron was deceptive.
	I thought it was live.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was supposed to be all them standing up.
	Oh, it was?
	Oh, look at all those protesters.
	There's literally like four.
	There's like four of them.
	I wonder how many of them are there on accident.
	What's going on?
	Why are there cameras over here?
	This isn't the DSA convention.
	This isn't a furry convention.
	Lots of people waiting in line to get into the courtroom.
	How long have they been deliberating?
	We missed a... Yeah, we'll do it with Jenna.
	Yeah, we'll do that with Jenna.
	Alright, awesome.
	And that means I can play it next.
	I didn't have a piece of paper to hold up, so I just printed one off and I'll go grab it.
	Alright.
	I'll leave the thing up if you want to listen to any cuts.
	Oh yes.
	Play cut eight.
	play cut Eric thank you okay
	Eric.
	which cuts do you want to hear Uh, Kimmel, cut eight.
	Cut eight.
	It was a warm summer day, but Dot was dejected.
	Her mother refused to get her injected.
	All Dot wanted was to ride bikes with Doreen, but her irrational parents feared the vaccine.
	Luke and Sonya said, let's go to the pool, but Dot couldn't join them because her dad is a fool.
	She couldn't eat cereal.
	It got that pathetic.
	They threw spoons at the mailman to prove he's magnetic.
	So Dot sat at the window and became very bitter while her dizzy-brained mother read nonsense on Twitter.
	Don't tread on me is mom's new favorite slogan and dad got dewormed on advice from Joe Rogan.
	It's a book they wrote.
	Prophet?
	I believe it.
	Was it three minutes?
	Is that, are we listening to Prophet?
	They probably drew it himself.
	What is this?
	What is this nonsense?
	What's nine?
	Vaccines came out in 1796 before a con man named Don made us all sick.
	What?
	He's not funny!
	He's not.
	At all.
	Cut, cut, come in with, uh, that.
	Cut nine?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	One minute.
	Like, Fallon is at least tolerable, but Kimmel is just, ugh.
	Kimmel's insufferable.
	Fallon, the day Fallon went downhill was when he touched Trump's hair.
	Kimmel was making up for the man show.
	Yeah!
	Seriously.
	If he wasn't, every episode would be done for him.
	Girls jumping on trampolines.
	Carl Malone, every day, impersonation.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	30 seconds, coming up with that cut.
	After the liner.
	Yes, we'll do the stand with this real disclaimer.
	Alright, set to go.
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	Vaccines came out in 1796 before a con man named Don made us all sick.
	Are you all laughing at home?
	That's Jimmy Kimmel pretending that he's a comedian.
	What grown man is called Jimmy?
	I'm just curious.
	You know, are you... No.
	Just call in if you're a grown man called Jimmy and does it cause you any problems because clearly it doesn't help him.
	To be funny.
	We're going to show you the rest of that pseudo-skit later, but in the meantime, give us your take on what's happening in the world today.
	833-33 Gorkovitz, 833-334-6752.
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	I just spent the morning at the Museum of the Bible, an incredible institution in D.C., truly a world-class institution, and it was host to a new contract with America conference.
	Christian conservative businessmen and women who were there to listen to the one and only Newt Gingrich.
	And I wish I could dedicate the whole thing Three hours of this show to what he said.
	Afterward, as he came off the stage, he said to me, he came up to me and he said, I'm coming on your show soon.
	I think it's on Friday.
	Is that right, Jeff?
	Monday.
	Aren't you impressed that Newt Gingrich knows whose shows he's going on?
	I like that.
	Isn't that cool?
	Yes.
	I wasn't going to mention anything.
	I wasn't going to.
	And then he said it to me.
	So I was very, very impressed with that.
	We are so excited.
	He's got a new book.
	We're going to discuss that and so much more with Speaker Gingrich.
	But one thing that really stuck with me is he said when he was Speaker, they ran candidates In every race in America except three.
	He said, you've got somebody who's breathing, got a pulse, love America, you run them.
	You run that person.
	Because what happens?
	The big guys get worried.
	The big candidates get worried.
	They have to move funds around and then we win races that we're not expected to win.
	He said, the win in New Jersey, the Senate president who was defeated by a truck driver because he was denied a concealed carry permit, that shows you what is possible.
	And he even said this, I know this is going to make Mr. G happy, he said, why shouldn't you even primary?
	Mitch McConnell.
	Newt said that today.
	Isn't that exciting?
	There we go.
	Now I'm excited for him to come on.
	Very excited.
	I was before, but now I like that.
	Whoa!
	What did he just say there?
	He is clearly the smartest political person in America today.
	My gosh, could you imagine if Newt was back in the Speaker's chair?
	He said, primary them all.
	If they're not doing their job, even Mitch McConnell goes.
	And he said, the way you do it is with a new contract.
	You appeal to all Americans of every skin color, every ethnicity, man, woman, child.
	You ask them, what do you think of what America's doing today?
	Our direction, just simply the price of gas.
	How do you not win every seat based upon what's happening to prices of food and gas?
	That's enough.
	Then you keep those that we mobilize, the new voters, the new activists, as we have just witnessed in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	Again, so, so telling.
	To all those who said, that's it.
	I'm done.
	We're never going to win again.
	I'm not even going to vote.
	Well, guess what?
	The most influential fundraiser for the Democrats, literally the bag carrier, the money man for Hillary and Bill Clinton.
	He lost.
	Terry McAuliffe, who had been the governor of Virginia already, who should have strolled in there, was defeated by an individual who's never ever run for public office before.
	A businessman.
	Doesn't that sound familiar?
	Who else was a businessman who'd never run for office before and won the first time he actually ever competed in a political election?
	Yes, my former boss, President Trump.
	Wherever you are, it doesn't matter what kind of color state it is, you can make a difference.
	Whether it's just for the local library board that controls the kinds of books our children see that can protect them from the perverse, the paedophilic, the un-American.
	Whether it's the school board, the county commissioner, whatever it is, you have a role to play, my friends.
	Let's make a difference.
	Let's take Newt's lead, and let's take back America.
	Our number here, 833-33 Gawker, that's 833-334-6752.
	Next up, we're going to talk to President Trump's former attorney, Jenna Ellis, on the Rittenhouse trial and so many other things.
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	Thank you.
	Okay, titles.
	There's a lot here.
	Um, Marsha.
	Oh, is this a lunatic guy?
	How do I do this?
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, you want me to mute it?
	No.
	Mic's on.
	Is this Cut Boy?
	Hey, he's gonna come in now.
	Just remember the mics are live.
	Is this cut, boy?
	Hang on.
	Yeah, it is cut, boy.
	Dude, don't waste my time.
	Give your mom her phone back, okay?
	See ya little boy.
	Alright, bring her up.
	Alright.
	Hey Jenna, are you like Miss Media?
	Yes, indeed.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good.
	I was listening to you on Dan's show.
	Hold the phone a slightly further away from your face.
	We are live in 10 seconds.
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	Clearly, if there is provocation, he's guilty.
	But even outside of provocation, why do you get to immediately just start shooting?
	As Mr. Binger said, he brought a gun to a fist fight.
	He was too cowardly to use his own fist to fight his way out.
	Assistant District Attorney James Krause saying, when somebody's coming at you with a skateboard to brain you or a loaded Glock pistol aimed at your head, I guess you should just let them brain you and shoot you.
	I think they're getting a little bit desperate.
	We'll find out just how desperate momentarily.
	But first things first, have you booked?
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	Jenna Ellis is with us.
	Jenna have you been to Israel?
	I have, actually, once, and it was amazing.
	You should come again!
	You should come with us!
	I know, that would be so much fun.
	I was looking into that, going, I really want to go, because the first time I went to Israel, we were going up to Jerusalem, as the Bible says, and the tour guide that we had, who was a Messianic Jew, said a word I'll never forget.
	He said, all of you have read the Bible in black and white, and after this trip, you will then read in color.
	Oh, that's a beautiful... I'm going to have to use that, with your permission.
	That's superb.
	Absolutely.
	Isn't that amazing?
	It's so true.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	You've got to follow this lady, Jenna Ellis, ESQ, on all platforms.
	Listen to her show, The Jenna Ellis Show.
	She's a member of our Salem faculty.
	I heard you on another... You went on a competitor's radio show!
	Good friend of mine.
	Dan Bongino, great, great interview today.
	Would you reprise what you said, just one element that really stuck with me, that when you don't have, even if you have a, you know, a slam-dunk case, but even if you don't, the key thing for either side is the narrative.
	Who did well here?
	We know the left, we know that they want to exploit this, we know that the DAs made Unconstitutional statements that got the judge very angry.
	However, I'm not exactly impressed by the defense team.
	You're a professional.
	You've been a defense attorney.
	Tell us your take.
	Yeah, I was not super impressed with either side, I'll be honest.
	I think the prosecutor was absolutely terrible and the biggest mistake that I think they made is that they crossed the line between advocating for justice and going where the facts lead and advocating for their case and they basically became defense counsel
	Right, so they're trying to defend the people who were shot as opposed to making the case against the defendant.
	Which isn't a good sign for the prosecution, is it, Jenna?
	Not at all, and I think that they were misstating the law in closing.
	That's where, as the defense counsel, I would have actually objected.
	Now, closing arguments, opening statements, those aren't evidence, and so typically you don't get a lot of objections during those instances, but when a prosecutor is actually misstating the law, that would have been the time for defense counsel to actually say, well, hold on a minute, Judge, not to interrupt their brilliant argument here, and you can kind of frame it that way, like, go ahead, military, whatever you want, but Actually state the law correctly.
	And so for them to claim somehow that you lose your right to self-defense when you bring a gun to a family, that's just absurd.
	Well, I mean, clearly, you know, when you're in a life-threatening situation, you need to go home and get your gun, right?
	Right.
	And, you know, and somehow just because you happen to be in a bad place and have People chase you, hit you with skateboards, other things.
	You somehow lose your right to self-defense if you actually lawfully carry.
	I mean, this is just insane, and it contravenes the Second Amendment, everything about self-defense.
	They did not attack this well.
	They did not present their case well.
	But the thing for defense counsel is that you want to give the jury a very clear picture of exactly what happened, because trials are very difficult to follow.
	We are used to an average person on the jury.
	We're used to watching movies, reading books, having conversations.
	We don't have piecemeal of testimony that comes in with different pieces of evidence, all the rules and objections and all sorts of things.
	You have to frame it for the jury and say, OK, you've seen the cast of characters.
	Let me tell you what you heard and place that correctly and appropriately and tell a story.
	And I thought the defense counsel was a little bit too legalese, not enough storytelling.
	It was dry.
	So how much legal jeopardy do you think Kyle is in right now?
	Well, I mean obviously, you know, this is a very very serious series of charges that he's been charged with and I think if the jury is Looks at self-defense, they are reasonable, and look at the facts and the evidence.
	I think it's very clear that self-defense is a justification here, and he should be found not guilty.
	But I think that this is not going to be a quick verdict.
	A lot of people are going, oh, this should just be a slam dunk.
	Well, until you've sat on a jury, and I have, and I've also been on both sides of the aisle.
	I've been a prosecutor, I've been a defense attorney.
	In high-level cases, I've been a defense attorney.
	These types of cases with so much evidence so much testimony it's not going to be quick and if the jury is doing their job they know this is very serious and they're going to want to go through this they're going to want to deliberate and discuss and it also depends on who they select as the fourth person because that alpha person that's going to kind of take over and manage the jury deliberations that has a lot to do with how quickly They reach a verdict, and how much that poor person wants to go through all of the evidence yet again.
	Yeah.
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	And that's it.
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	Titles.
	It won't be Rittenhouse.
	It won't be a quick verdict.
	All right.
	Oh, this is good.
	This is good.
	Have you seen this, Babylon B?
	Carl Rittenhouse asked to step outside and defend the courthouse with his AR-15.
	That's good.
	They've been on fire lately.
	No, Babylon B has been pretty good.
	They have.
	I love that Lincoln Project headline in Euro.
	Did you see that one?
	About after the white supremacist hoax?
	No, I don't think so.
	Remember, so they had the fake white supremacists outside the Yunkin bus, so Babylon Bee put out a headline saying, uh, Yunkin keeps Lincoln Project away from his campaign rallies by having them all within 500 yards of a school.
	Yes!
	Did you see what Kurt posted today?
	Oh no, what did he say?
	It was so good.
	I immediately sent him his own tweet.
	Climate change is a hoax, like phrenology and Project Lincoln marriages.
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	sense out of today's news here's dr sebastian gorka And every day we read about heroes that stop active shooters.
	That's what was going on here.
	And that crowd was right.
	And that crowd was full of heroes.
	That crowd did something that, honestly, I'm not sure I would have had the courage to do.
	If I see a guy running up the street with an AR-15 and I hear he just shot somebody... So that's Thomas Binger of the prosecutions team, who's calling the rioters heroes, including Somebody who's raped five young boys between the ages of nine and eleven.
	Yeah, him.
	Quote-unquote, a hero for the prosecution and for the left and for the mainstream media.
	They're calling an individual who beat his wife, well, his wife, his girlfriend, a hero.
	They're calling an individual who, by law, wasn't allowed to own a gun because of his convictions, Who bore down on Kyle Rittenhouse with a loaded Glock handgun pointed at his head.
	A hero.
	That's how perverse the situation is.
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	Hello?
	Yes.
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	That's what I just said!
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	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I was looking at my smartphone here.
	Listen, you know, I like that you're pushing people to run for office, but what I'm doing here and what I'm promoting is that, you know, for us to take America back, we've got to drain the swamp.
	And if you ain't got time to run for office, find somebody, a senator and a governor or somebody in your state that you can support so we can start draining the swamp.
	That should be our motto for 2022.
	Drain the swamp.
	Use inflation.
	All these negative things that, you know, inflation, according to Yellen, ain't gonna go away till the third quarter of next year.
	Are you gonna put up with inflation up to the third quarter of next year?
	Yeah, you're getting a little bit technical.
	People don't think about inflation in terms of quarters, they just think about how much it costs today to fill their tank of gas.
	But yes, you're absolutely right, Al.
	Everybody listening to this show, you have two choices.
	Number one, run for elected office or support somebody else who is.
	It's really that simple.
	If you don't, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
	Next, Lord Conrad Black.
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	Mics are back on.
	One minute, 40 seconds.
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	90 seconds.
	Let's come in again with...
	Bannon?
	Cut to Bannon, yeah.
	Yeah, copy that.
	Give me Conrad.
	Conrad!
	Yes, sir?
	Thank you for writing your piece about George Will.
	Got it.
	I just couldn't take it anymore.
	I completely understand.
	I'm going to do a little bit of a divergence before we get to him and the article, but you mentioned Ross Perot, and I'd like to go down that little historic avenue for a few minutes to discuss him, if that's OK.
	He will go into history.
	Well, yes, yes, and I want us just to remind America what actually happened, because that was my first visit to America was during that campaign, so it'll be a trip down memory lane.
	Stand by.
	Sounds good.
	All right, 25 seconds.
	Coming with cut two after the liner.
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	You see these signs right here and the guys over here saying insurrection and all that?
	That's what this country's about.
	It's freedom of speech.
	They got their opinions.
	We have our opinions.
	OK, hang on.
	They have their opinions.
	I'm telling you right now, this is going to be the misdemeanor from hell for Merrick Garland, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden ordered Merrick Garland to prosecute me from the White House along when he got off Marine One.
	And we're gonna do, we're gonna go on the offense.
	We're tired of playing defense.
	We're gonna go on the offense on this and stand by. - That does not sound like a man cowed to me, my former colleague, my superior in the White House, former chief strategist to President Trump talking to the media before he went into the FBI building where he was handcuffed and put in leg shackles for a misdemeanor.
	We must analyze all of this with our regular guest, one of your favorites.
	He is historian, columnist, financier.
	He is the author of every book he writes.
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	Most recently, a president like no other, Donald J. Trump and the restoring of America.
	His latest piece is in American Greatness.
	Trump is necessary to restore two-party rule.
	We will discuss that momentarily.
	But first, Lord Black, welcome back.
	Your reaction as one who has suffered the slings and arrows, the vicissitudes of the American legal system, your reaction to the footage?
	Did Steve Bannon look like a man cowed to you?
	No, and I find that very refreshing.
	I have no standing to comment on the merits of the charge against him, although I am Uh, you know, given who has laid the charges, extremely skeptical.
	But, uh, I think that the abuses of the American prosecutocracy, which have just been vividly illustrated in this nonsense, With young Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Yes.
	I mean, you know, where the prosecutor is stating that the law and the Constitution require certain things and provide for certain things that are completely false, completely false.
	Anyone who stands up to that system, in my opinion, is contributing to the eventual reform of it.
	I mean, the fact is the plea bargain system where prosecutors extort Or suborn false evidence.
	Will you unpack that?
	Because I've read your memoir, A Matter of Principle, where you go into great detail about this facet of the American legal system.
	Will you unpack just how dark a mechanism it is?
	Yes, sure.
	I'm happy to do it as a public service because I'm sure most Americans knew how it worked.
	They would demand that it be reformed.
	Look, we have to have prosecutors, we have to have laws, and we have to enforce the laws.
	Everyone agrees with that.
	But what happens in the United States, which is unique among advanced democratic countries, is the prosecution has the ability to bring in an interview, whomever they wish, and say, look here, so let's say you're the suspect, Sebastian.
	They bring in the eight people closest to you and whatever activity is under investigation and say, look here, you know that Dr. Gorka stuffed his pockets with ill-gotten gains and you must have evidence of that.
	And your friends would say, rubbish, that's no truth to that at all.
	I've known him for 20 years.
	He's an honest man.
	And then they say, well, that's all very nice, but you better jog your memory or there's a conspiracy to obstruct justice going on and you're part of it and we indict you too.
	If, on the other hand, you manage to jog your memory to produce something useful to us, we guarantee you will not, under any circumstances, be charged with perjury, and if you provide useful evidence, we will not prosecute you.
	So, you know, the fact is most people roll over for that.
	The evidence is produced, never mind how fallacious it is.
	And there's no rod on the back of a perjurer because he can't be charged with perjury.
	He's been incited to do it by the prosecutors.
	And that's why you have 98% conviction rate in the U.S., 95% without a trial.
	And that is one reason why if this young man, Rittenhouse, is acquitted, which on what I saw, you clearly should be.
	There's got to be a reasonable doubt there, given how incoherent and fatuous, and indeed at times absolutely false, the prosecution case was.
	This is striking a blow for a better system, for reform of the prosecution system.
	In Britain, 61% of people are convicted who are charged.
	It's roughly the same in Canada, not because the prosecutors in those countries are incompetent, And indeed, the crime rates are lower in both countries than in the U.S., but because the system is fairer.
	And if Steve Bannon is going to fight it out, I say, I don't know anything about the facts, so I would be skeptical of these particular prosecutors, but I wish him well.
	I always wish defendants well, especially in nonviolent cases that wreak political bias, as this one does.
	Well, the facts of the case, because of course it's not a criminal case, it's contempt of Congress, is the committee that is supposed to be investigating the pseudo-insurrection wants to charge Steve, the narrative is that he was part and parcel of inciting that insurrection.
	That's why he had to surrender himself.
	But this, on top of that... Well, that is almost certainly nonsense, and of course you're right that almost any I do love this phrase, though, the prosecutocracy that you use to describe the system here in the United States.
	conduct has been an outrage and three quarters of them should be thrown into the Potomac, given a life preserver and in temperate weather, but thrown into the Potomac.
	I do love this phrase, though, the prosecutocracy that you use to describe the system here in the United States.
	And one last detail before we move on to your latest superb piece.
	This confirmation of the reports that this individual who's charged with a misdemeanor for not appearing before Congress, when he arrived in the building, he was made to wait by the federal agents who had put handcuffs and shackles on his legs.
	In That's not done in a normal country, is it, where there's rule of law?
	No, it's degrading and outrageous.
	And but the American constabulary and officials of the Federal Justice Department and their analogs at lower levels of government are fixated on handcuffs.
	I mean, there's no doubt about it.
	There's an inordinate amount of handcuffing that goes on in routinely taking someone into custody when it isn't necessary to handcuff them.
	I mean, I accept that there are times when people are resisting arrest or disorderly or potentially dangerous.
	Of course, you have to do it then, and you have to give the officers discretion.
	But doing that to a man like Steve Bannon...
	It's just an outrage.
	It's just an absolute disgrace.
	And on a misdemeanor charge as well.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	Follow him right now on Twitter at Conrad M. Black.
	Can I say one thing, Sebastian?
	Yes.
	I would overlook what happened.
	Yes, indeed.
	Very good point.
	The only AG to be held in contempt of Congress until Trump became President of the United States.
	Your latest piece is entitled, Trump Is Necessary to Restore Two-Party Rule.
	We'll break it down because it's got some wonderful analysis, but one thing, a name that crops up Yeah, look, I respect him as a businessman.
	time I ever came to the United States was during that election year.
	And I watched that election with some interest.
	And you have some very harsh words for Ross Perot.
	Would you expand on them in the couple of minutes we have left in this segment, Lord Black?
	Yeah, look, I respect him as a businessman.
	He was very successful.
	As far as I know, he really was a very capable executive.
	And I also respect the lengths he went to to protect his people and evacuate them from danger and things like that.
	So he's a man who, you know, achieved a good deal.
	I don't mean to be disrespectful of that, but as a political figure, he was an absolute charlatan, a gadfly.
	I mean, he had no program.
	He just used his money to exploit the general irritation that is almost always there with the political system, unless the incumbent leader is an absolutely inspiring person.
	And that can't quite be said of George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton, although they had their qualities.
	But the result of it was he took 20 million, mainly Republican votes, away from George Bush Sr.
	and put the Clintons in the White House.
	Now, that wasn't the end of the earth.
	I'm not a Clinton basher, but his role was entirely one of a spoiler and a meddler.
	Was it a vanity project?
	Was it a vanity project for him?
	I didn't know him and I can't I can't psychoanalyze him, but it certainly looks like one.
	It looked like the ultimate ego trip.
	A rich man showing that he could get 20 million votes by splashing the money around.
	And I agreed on this one with John McCain.
	When Ross Perot said, you can hear the whoosh of people and capital leaving America, John McCain said, that is actually the sound of Ross Perot's brains leaving his ears.
	All right, well it did clearly, clearly pave the way for Bill Clinton to become President of the United States, so we have an unusual system where a third-party candidate with any national name recognition will do that to the side he putatively comes from.
	We are posting the piece right now.
	Trump is necessary to restore two-party rule.
	We will continue with our good friend Lord Conrad Black.
	Follow him at Conrad M. Black on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	You know, I just...
	Are you there?
	Yes, yes, yes, and we're still live on Rumble, carry on.
	I don't know, it's fine, I know the mic's open, but I'm an old friend of George Will's and I'm for the most part an admirer of his, but I do not, I absolutely do not understand that he has reached the stage of publicly urging the President's handlers and minders to keep him even farther removed from the public gaze, because otherwise Trump might be reelected.
	I mean, this is simply not rational.
	No, but as somebody explained to me, because I always find, I find it very difficult to wrap my head around the logic of the never Trumpers.
	And here's a combination of answers that I think is plausible.
	Number one, every Republican candidate prior to President Trump kissed the ring of the conservative intelligentsia, went to their offices to be briefed by them, and here we have a candidate who not only said, I don't need them, was disdainful of them.
	So number one, Their raison d'être is nullified by President Trump or candidate Trump.
	And then secondly, when it comes to key moral issues, the person they lambasted, they vilified for his personal peccadilloes, is the man who's shown more moral fiber on, oh I don't know, Yeah, I think you're right.
	to Jerusalem after 23 years of broken promises or building the border, being serious about our commitments to our allies.
	So there's that double whammy of he didn't recognize them.
	And secondly, he did things that they didn't have the spine to do for 30 years.
	I think that's a pretty good explanation, as it was explained to me.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	And furthermore, I think that if George Will, if you sat him down and put a drink in his hand, he would acknowledge that he agreed with most of what Trump did, that he's got this idea that Trump's personality was so outrageous, it warped American politics and dishonored that he's got this idea that Trump's personality was so outrageous, it warped American politics and
	Look, I understand that some of Trump's conduct was susceptible to being criticized, but the important thing is, what did he do?
	Results are results.
	And one last thing, I think, subliminally or consciously, there's a class issue.
	This man is deemed to be not of their club.
	Mind you, in straight socio-economic terms, the provenance of Donald Trump is a good deal more distinguished than George Wills.
	I mean, his father was a well-respected professor at one of the Illinois universities, but, you know, it's not as if, not that it matters, but it's not as if Trump was born in a log cabin.
	No, no, but it's the brusque, it's the class of his brusque style, the Queens vs. the Georgetown, if you get my meaning.
	I do indeed.
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	I do indeed.
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	Alright.
	Stand by.
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	We are back with our good friend Lord Conrad Black.
	His latest piece for that fabulous website American Greatness is posted on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	I don't do this often, but I'm going to do it.
	Well, I do it with my article.
	I do read my articles but I don't read other people's articles verbatim.
	There's one passage I want to share and then have you expand upon.
	It's from the second page and it regards the last 30-40 years of politics in America and how things changed under President Trump.
	From the retirement of Ronald Reagan to the election of President Trump, there was little appreciable difference between the two parties, which collaborated in the inexorable leftward drift of public policy.
	The White House would change hands every eight years, and the Congress every four or six years, but 95% of the permanent federal government was liberal, and all were complicit in the betrayal of the American working and middle classes.
	The appeasement of China.
	The paucity of the southern border.
	The erosion of every aspect of citizenship, including the requirement of it to vote in federal elections.
	The pace of requisitioning money from those who had earned it to distribute it amongst those who had not.
	All this quickened, especially under Obama.
	But the political class was merely shifting places on a bipartisan conveyor belt to the left.
	Trump reversed this trend.
	A fabulous summation, Lord Black.
	Will you put it in the context of this piece and George Will's argument and his advice to the Biden administration?
	Yeah, well, George's column in the Washington Post last week advised the entourage of the president to keep him even more closely under wraps and more tightly controlled in what he said and avoid spontaneity even more than is the case George's column in the Washington Post last week advised the entourage of the president to keep him even more closely under wraps and more tightly controlled
	Now, every part of that proposition is preposterous, in my opinion.
	It would be very difficult to put the President under tighter constraint than he is now, short of treating him the way Steve Bannon was treated when he arrived, you know, to surrender himself at Cortez, you know, and gag him in addition to handcuffing and shackling him.
	And secondly, that is not the place of the entourage of the President.
	The head of the government and chief of state of the United States is to exercise his office adequately compelled to be reasonably accessible and reasonably comprehensible to the nation and to the world.
	It is not Trump who has wrecked the two-party system.
	He restored it.
	He produced alternative policy prescriptions.
	George Will came back from university in England in 1964 as a young man to work in the Goldwater campaign to make it a two-party system, make it a difference.
	And that's, in effect, what Trump's doing.
	And I don't understand why George doesn't see that.
	I understand why he regards Trump as a Bulgarian.
	And then purports to discount him and disparage him culturally, although in fact he's a well-educated, highly successful man.
	But to claim that Trump has upended the two-party system is nonsense.
	And finally, what we want, what anyone wants, any responsible citizen or non-American who wishes America well, is an administration that does well for the country regardless of party.
	And the way to do that is not to advise an incompetent incumbent to be even more tightly controlled than he already is, lest he so embarrass himself in the country that it results in the restoration of a president who was wrongfully deprived of the office and did very well in policy terms when he held the office.
	You write this sentence with regards to the current administration.
	There is no exit for over three years from the dead end of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris.
	Given this week, the reports, of course, from anonymous sources that the administration is not only
	Considering giving some sinecure of a job to Terry McAuliffe after his ouster in Virginia, but they want to bump the vice president over to the Supreme Court because of the dismal, utterly underwater popularity polling rating she's getting as a presidential historian who's covered not only President Trump, but FDR and Nixon.
	Have we ever seen the like before where within 10 months both the head of the ticket and the vice president are as unpopular as this?
	I would say, I mean it pains me to say this, but in some respects Trump was as unpopular but not for legitimate reasons.
	Right.
	I mean there was a Trump hate factor there.
	There was no Biden hate.
	I think everyone, even Republicans, and certainly someone like myself who didn't favor him in the election, wished him well.
	I mean, an incoming president, you always wish that person well, hope they do well for the country.
	And it's one of the very fine traditions that every president in my time, except Trump, benefited from the proverbial honeymoon.
	But, so, and Mr. Nixon, not in his first ten months, but near the end, because of that confected outrage over Watergate, which he had nothing to do with, although he did bungle investigations, he himself admitted, his popularity was below this.
	At one point early in his first term, somewhat similar to the present time, Reagan, I think, was not quite as low as this, but he was certainly underwater a bit.
	But it's the nature of it.
	And in those other cases, there were clearly discernible reasons for why that was the case.
	Here, the problem is the administration has simply walked off the dock.
	Every single policy area is a disaster, from Afghanistan to the southern border, to crime in the streets, to inflation, a lot of the handling of COVID, which was their great ally in the last election campaign, terrorizing the country and attacking Trump, even though he produced a virus very promptly.
	I've never seen anything like this in my studies of American history, which extend to every presidency.
	I've never seen such a terrible start, where everything went completely wrong right from the beginning.
	even though they inherited a country in good condition. - Yeah, absolutely stunning.
	And the idea that we can't verify these reports, of course, from this weekend and from Monday, but the idea that things are so bad that they're actually considering a sideways move for the vice president because they fear the chances of a Democrat victory in 2024, and that she'll but the idea that things are so bad that they're actually considering a sideways move for the vice president because The chances of a Democrat victory in 2024 and that she'll be shuffled off to the Supreme Court, truly beggar belief.
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	Look, Briar is one of the better judges.
	I mean, he happens to be the only member of that court that I actually know, though he probably wouldn't remember me, but although he is to the left of me politically, I think he's a very distinguished justice.
	I mean, replacing him with Harris would not be a step forward, but look, if the vacancy occurred and they tried to put her in there, I think, on balance, most people, Republican and Democrat, would think this was probably not a bad idea because, you know, leaving everything else out, President Biden does not look like a man in good health.
	I mean, I wish him well medically, but he doesn't look that robust.
	And so, in the event that the presidency, and we all hope it doesn't happen, but became vacant, You want the successor, at least, not to be another completely incompetent person, and that's what she is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And getting worse and worse by the day, her reactions.
	Did you see her yesterday for the signing ceremony?
	Yeah, I did.
	What really sent me was that fiasco in Paris where she put on that pseudo French accent.
	Oh my gosh, what an embarrassment.
	I mean, it was the sort of thing a teenager would do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's getting worse and worse.
	All right.
	Well, as she said to Lester Holt, it's her first visit to Europe.
	And what's the relevance anyway?
	Why should I go to the border since I am the person in charge of the border?
	Yeah.
	Two minutes.
	I read the French media sometimes.
	I'm looking forward to seeing what they think of her, but I doubt if they're impressed.
	What do you read?
	Le Monde, or what's your choice?
	Yeah, Le Monde, and then you hit the internet, too.
	You can look Figaro and you can get other sites, but you know what snobs the French are.
	I mean, they admired Nixon, they admired Kennedy, they admired Roosevelt, but they They're very discerning, but they're extremely assiduous, and I imagine their comments on air will be really something.
	Yes, I'm sure they will.
	Thank you so much, Conrad.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	All right, just over a minute.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
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	I'm looking at the website right now.
	It says image coming soon.
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	The jury has been selected out of the alternates.
	The pool of 18 has been whittled down to 12, who have to now start debating, deliberating the verdict they will arrive at on the car, Rittenhouse.
	Accusations.
	We will see how long it takes and we will keep our eye on the breaking news.
	But in the meantime, you've heard the arguments from the DA that Carl Rittenhouse should have fought the armed attackers with his bare hands.
	And from the deputy team member there for the prosecution, that the crowd was full of heroes.
	The protesters.
	The arsonists.
	The individuals who were repeat serial child rapists and wife beaters, they're the heroes.
	Well, let's ask a man who is one of the most respected legal minds in America today.
	I think he still has his emeritus position with Harvard, although According to his own admission, he's no longer invited to the inset parties on Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
	This is Alan Dershowitz's take on the state of the Rittenhouse trial.
	Cut six.
	I do think that there can't be a possible conviction of attempted murder on the victim, alleged victim, who admitted that he had pointed a gun at him seconds before he was shot.
	As to the two who were killed, I don't think you can make a prediction.
	I do think That the evidence does not show beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime and that even if he were to be convicted, it would be very, very, very serious issues on appeal.
	So I'm not going to predict, but I'm going to tell you that the right verdict in this case would be an acquittal.
	That's the verdict from Alan Dershowitz.
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	Let's go to Stephen, New Jersey, line one.
	Hey, how are you, Sebastian?
	Good!
	Great, great.
	A couple of things.
	Number one, obviously the left is trying to make a scapegoat of Kyle Rittenhouse and send a message to everybody that You better not to be able to defend yourself.
	The incite terror, it's a classic tactic of authoritarians, right out of Hitler's...
	You know, to use terror as a political means.
	So, I completely agree with you there.
	Well, it's actually the left.
	It's the left that invented that.
	So, it was Kropotkin and it was the propaganda of the deed.
	So, the intimidation, the kind of terroristic intimidation is actually a left-wing tactic originally.
	And don't forget what Nazi stands for.
	It's the National Workers' Party of Socialists in Germany.
	And we can't shy away from linking them to that.
	No, not at all.
	Absolutely.
	It's who they are.
	Yeah.
	Secondly, though, you know, Ross Perot anticipated... I mean, I was sad that he took votes away from Bush, and we got that.
	But he did anticipate a lot of things that Trump ran on, I mean, and the undercurrent, that if Bush had counted it, he wouldn't have had to worry about Ross Perot.
	So, at one level, I think Conrad Black's gone through a little cognitive dissonance there, in terms of saying, you know, He's a god fly.
	Yeah, but he he did touch a lot of themes that to your earlier point, you know He just said that you know since Reagan It was a one-party system changing hands every eight years.
	Here's my take, and I'm not going to put words in his mouth, but let me build upon what Lord Black said.
	He recognized Ross Perot for his business achievements.
	He recognized him for Operation Eagle when he did that privately funded hostage rescue attempt in Iran.
	But here's the issue.
	We have a very specific system, Stephen, in our nation where you can't run three candidates for the presidency because we have a pretty clear established two-party system.
	We have the left, we have the right.
	So if two people run on the right, what's going to happen to the voting base, Stephen?
	Oh no, look, that hurt us, no question.
	No, no, it didn't hurt us.
	It brought us Clinton.
	So I think the only point that Conrad was trying to make is for his ego.
	Look, you've got an incumbent conservative president.
	I don't like George Bush Senior.
	I think he was a bureaucrat and nothing else.
	Yes, a war hero, but not exactly a very robust president.
	Remember, he's the guy who made the chicken Kiev speech when he was afraid of the end of the Cold War.
	But the idea that you have an incumbent... Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	That was a classic move.
	So that people would not think the U.S.
	was behind it.
	No, no, no.
	Stop it.
	Stop it, dude.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	No, stop it.
	Stop it.
	There's no classic CIA operation.
	He was afraid.
	He was a bureaucrat.
	That's why he said what he said.
	There's no big mystical conspiracy theory.
	But at the end of the day, he's the Republican incumbent president.
	You run against him.
	It doesn't matter who you are.
	You're stealing.
	You're taking away from the voter base for that party.
	And that's how we got Clinton.
	So that's all he was saying.
	And I tend to concur with Lord Black.
	But great call.
	Thank you, Steve.
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	I felt absolutely sick to my stomach, physically sick to my stomach, watching him stand behind the seal of the President of the United States in the East Room of the White House, saying something that I knew at that moment he couldn't prove was true.
	But he was saying it as if it was an absolute fact.
	We were getting ready to win this election.
	Frankly, we did win this election.
	You cannot, as President of the United States, stand up there and say that the election was stolen to the American people as your first statement, after the results are coming in, unless you have absolute concrete proof.
	Chris Christie, didn't he want to be a member of the Trump administration?
	Jeff, your reaction, did you like the sad music underneath that?
	I thought that was the best part, yeah.
	Not only that, wasn't he one of the first ones to endorse him after he dropped out?
	Yes!
	Not only that, you know me, I had not only worked in the White House, I was on the transition team, right?
	Who ran that?
	Chris Christie ran that!
	Oh, is that right?
	He came once.
	He came once to the transition team.
	Was he ever physically sick to his stomach then, or no?
	No, and you know what's weird?
	When he addressed us, because he gave a speech, he came to the transition team building.
	It was just a block from the White House.
	There was no sad music going on the PA system.
	It's weird.
	Why is he so sad now?
	Because he has a book and he's going to run for president.
	There you go.
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	Well, My wife calls it the parent's revolt.
	The revolution is occurring.
	Americans are waking up, not just in Virginia, but across the nation.
	And one of the people who's one of the, you know, the spear carriers at the tip of this culture war is in studio with us right now from an amazing organization that is called Mums for Liberty.
	And with one of the coolest names ever, Tiffany Justice.
	Tiffany, welcome to America First.
	Thank you for having me.
	Don't laugh.
	That was a great introduction.
	Wonderful introduction.
	Who would have known 20 years ago when I met my husband that I would be running an organization called Moms4Liberty and my last name would be so beneficial.
	Absolutely.
	Beautifully done.
	Okay, so tell our millions of listeners what is Moms4Liberty?
	Moms4Liberty is a nonpartisan grassroots organization.
	We have over 150 chapters in 33 states.
	Stop.
	When did you start?
	January of 2021.
	Hang on a second.
	That's not possible.
	You can't have 150 chapters if you started last year.
	That's not possible.
	Parents are on fire all over the country.
	Wow.
	And what is your mission?
	Our mission is to help parents to defend their parental rights at all levels of government.
	So you disagree with Terry McAuliffe that parents shouldn't be in charge of the things that children learn?
	Yeah, we disagree a little bit with Terry McAuliffe, and I think the parents in Virginia definitely disagree.
	They showed that.
	Yeah.
	We like you, Glenn.
	But Glenn, you won because of the Mama Bears.
	OK, the Lyonkin victory is because you picked up the baton of the Mama Bears who said CRT is wrong, masks are wrong.
	So you've got to understand why that victory occurred.
	Tell us what your organization does.
	What's the day-to-day activity of the 150 chapters across the nation?
	Awesome, so we have almost 70,000 members and they hold chapter meetings every month and they are looking at school board agendas.
	They are building relationships with their school board members, with their county commission members, with their state representatives and they are defending parental rights and making sure that children are being put first by the decision makers in this country.
	So, our kids are out of school, but they went to schools in the Commonwealth.
	What I've been saying every day here on this show, and correct me if I'm missing something, is everybody should be running for school board.
	Even if you don't run for school board, just by dint of showing up to support those who are pushing back, you can make a difference.
	So simply by being physically in the room at Loudoun County or wherever it is, you can make a difference.
	It's really that simple, isn't it?
	It is that simple, and so Tina Deskovic is also the co-founder of Moms4Liberty, and we both served as school board members, and we're both moms.
	I have four children in public school, so I unpacked a lot of backpacks.
	And what we saw was that the union had undue influence in the decision-making that is happening in local school districts.
	You mean the teachers' unions?
	The teachers' unions, yes, sir.
	So they have a stranglehold on the board members?
	They absolutely do.
	And the principals and the superintendents?
	Absolutely do.
	What was it like to be on?
	Because when my kids were in school in Virginia, in our county, the board was run by Democrats.
	None of them, none of them had kids in the schools in the county or had ever had them.
	So what is it like working with these kinds of people?
	Well, it's really interesting.
	Some of these people have held this office for over 20 years.
	In fact, you know, everyone celebrated Virginia on Tuesday, but what we celebrated was school board wins across the country.
	We saw write-in candidates supported by our chapters, unseating incumbents who have been there for 15, 20 years.
	Pretty awesome.
	I haven't even taught.
	What a crazy week.
	I haven't said anything about where I spent the weekend.
	My good buddy Jeff Cousins, who you've heard on the show guys, one of the best counterterrorism experts in the world, who has decided after seven years of building and creating one of the most successful micro breweries in New Hampshire, is running for Congress.
	And we went to host a fundraiser for him in New Hampshire.
	Three hours after the fundraiser, three hours later, I'm in the Motel Cigar Bar.
	Brian, great cigar bar.
	And this guy walks up to me with his wife.
	He said, Are you Sebastian Gorka?
	I said, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He said, I just had to come and say hi.
	I'm from Connecticut.
	I'm a lawyer.
	And I've just had enough.
	And I ran for the local school board.
	And I won.
	And I'm in the local school.
	So this is happening everywhere, Tiffany.
	Absolutely.
	And I think what people don't realize is the momentum that it's going to have.
	2022 is the year of the parent at the ballot box.
	And when we can change the faces on school boards, we will change the direction of public education in this country.
	All right.
	Can you stay with us for one more segment?
	All right.
	All right.
	We want to hear a plan of action for all of those listening across the nation.
	We're talking to Tiffany Justice.
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	You can find out more at momsforliberty.org and at momsforliberty on Twitter, right?
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	This isn't just about dirty books, is it?
	This is about Really the future of the country, isn't it?
	Absolutely.
	It's about parents having the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children and the government knowing their place in our lives.
	And how influential, how catalytic is it?
	You must have seen this wherever you go, Florida and elsewhere, when somebody who's not engaged gets engaged.
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	We have moms that have never been involved in government before, and they are now holding chapter meetings, rallying parents in their neighborhoods, getting people ready to run for school board and supporting them.
	It's really amazing, and 2022 is going to be a year that America never forgets.
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	troops are dead after that suicide blast at Kabul's airport at the Abbey Gate, and then another attack, a lot of gunfire close by at a hotel.
	Also, 95 Afghans lost their life, too.
	An ISIS offshoot group called ISIS-K has claimed responsibility, President Biden vowing revenge.
	Vowing revenge, yes.
	We saw what kind of revenge that turned out to be, killing an aid worker with his family.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	This is America First, one-on-one, where we go deep dive with very special guests in studio for the big issues of the day.
	This isn't Soundbite Central.
	This is where we talk about the things that matter to you, the depth that they deserve and we should respect them at.
	And we are delighted to have with us somebody who I don't even want to call her a politician because she isn't.
	Every time she comes on the show, every time we see her speak, it's like an American.
	It is a citizen and that's what we need more of.
	Representing the 22nd Congressional District of New York, Congresswoman Claudia Tenney.
	Welcome to One on One.
	Well, thank you for that great introduction.
	It's an honor to be on, of course.
	We have so much to discuss, especially we're going to talk about what a Zuckerbuck is and your special, yes, your election integrity efforts.
	We'll discuss this.
	She's given me lots of Zuckerbucks.
	We'll talk about what is happening to the economy.
	We'll talk about recent events here in capital.
	But first things first, tell us a little bit about your take as a mother of a Marine, as somebody who is deeply vested in the security of this nation.
	I want people not to forget what happened just barely a couple of months ago in Kabul.
	Give us your take from the inside, from a member of the political elite, of the last 10 months of national security leadership in this nation.
	Yeah, let me just first say my deepest condolences to those families on the death of those 13 service members and women.
	Two women were also killed needlessly.
	We honor our Gold Star families.
	We actually did a vigil in my community to honor those 13 that were killed in August, and we also honored our Gold Star families from the latest wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	Nothing is more painful than to see service members killed in action, especially in a situation which shouldn't have happened.
	No, it was needless.
	It was needless.
	And that is why it's so tragic to watch this whole situation.
	I just, I can't, I can't express how sad it was to see that that had actually happened.
	But we saw the chaos developing on the ground.
	Each day got worse.
	You know, as Biden put forth his mission to, remember how it started?
	And I'm a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee.
	He said, I want to move out of Afghanistan and pull all our troops out on September 11th because it was symbolic day.
	He wanted he wanted that photograph.
	He wanted that sound.
	I pulled us out of Afghanistan as if the mission were not to advance freedom, to ensure the safety and security of America, to protect our foreign assets.
	There are bases.
	Eighty five billion in change of equipment left there with our enemy, the Taliban, to leave them to take back over and not understanding the callousness of President Biden to not see how devastating that was, especially to a New Yorker.
	You know, 9-11, I don't think there's anyone in New York and probably around the country that doesn't have a connection To somebody killed on 9-11.
	And to say, instead of remembering the horror of that day, he was about, oh, we're going to just take a victory lap, some callous political victory lap, and then moving it to another arbitrary date of August 31st, and then saying, well, people who want to get out can get out.
	I still have people reaching out to me today, months later, who cannot get out of Afghanistan for a variety of reasons.
	Every week I have DMs from people in Afghanistan, because my Twitter feed is open, you can direct message me saying, I work for Special Forces, I help the Allies, will you help me?
	And we've had one friend of mine, former Air Force Colonel, who has by himself, not by himself, with people who've donated a lot of money, taken out 6,000 people from Afghanistan.
	He's a private citizen.
	Oh, yeah.
	Millions have been spent by people who are philanthropic.
	Most of them, from what I know, either have great regard for the military or they're former military people themselves, knowing they've been successful.
	They cannot understand the concept of leaving our service members behind and the way that this was done by the Biden administration and the way that President Biden is trying to deflect this, blame the military general.
	Certainly there's fault everywhere.
	Or the Afghans, or us, or everyone involved, our allies.
	And it's really, I think this is really all about Joe Biden.
	I don't think you can sit there and say it's General Milley or Blinken.
	They're doing interference for him.
	It was Biden, who's a politician, who has no experience in the military, who has no under, he's just a lifelong politician, has never had to be held accountable, saying, I just want to get out of there.
	And honestly, in the meetings that we had, as a member of foreign affairs, I could see that they said, look, it's up to the Commander-in-Chief, and the military has to do what the Commander-in-Chief wants.
	We are a civilian-run country by purpose.
	We don't want tyranny.
	We don't want a military dictatorship.
	But yet here we have a person that's Commander-in-Chief who did not understand what was happening.
	And it's, I think, among the biggest tragedies of this administration, not to mention the rest of them all loading up.
	But the fact that American service members died, that we've left people in tragic situations, And just to know that even innocent Afghans who've been left there have been targeted and killed and murdered in this situation.
	And the message it's sending, and you know, we're seeing it, rejecting this weakness that is being picked up by our enemies, emboldening China, our enemies in the Middle East, the Yemenis now, you know, I mean, the situation where the Houthis have attacked our, and we have a hostage situation with our embassy in Yemen.
	And where's the Biden administration?
	Well you said they're going to react.
	They're going to do what?
	A harshly worded letter maybe.
	Maybe these people aren't American citizens but they're being paid with American tax dollars and those are our assets.
	And your reaction as a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee to the fact that...
	Take the politics out of it for a moment, but just purely the idea that Americans were left stranded, that we have no strategic assets, we are blind, we are deaf in Central Asia now.
	The idea that not one of these individuals, not Milley, not Blinken, not Sullivan, none of these individuals have either been fired, Congresswoman, or had the decency to resign in the last ten months.
	Your reaction?
	Exactly.
	Because remember, General Mattis didn't agree with President Trump.
	Whether you like Mattis or not, he did the honorable thing.
	I don't agree with the policy, I resign.
	That's the obligation that he has.
	And none of these guys, they're all sitting there.
	I don't want to, you know, make assumptions, but I'm sure they make pretty good salaries.
	I'm sure they got a pretty good government pension with lifelong health care.
	I'll tell you one thing.
	A lot of the people that joined up, the millions who joined to serve in World War II and wars in the past in the United States, didn't go there for the pension.
	They did because they were patriotic Americans that wanted to serve.
	And I understand the reality of today and people needing to have some security.
	But these guys have got to stand up for our nation at some point and not be just these guys that are in the Pentagon circling and making money.
	And allowing this woke culture to really abscond our military and our code of ethics and to make it a social experiment instead about really protecting our nation.
	It is the very reason that the federal government was created and these branches of the military were created.
	Really for the national defense and border security.
	And what is our biggest disaster now?
	We're projecting weakness.
	We're weakening our military.
	And we have a disaster at our southern border.
	And by the way, I'm from New York, which has a northern border, which nobody talks about either, which is actually run by the New York state government where there's New York state troopers manning that.
	And there's a lot of problems at that border, too, that no one's addressing.
	You are a mother of a Marine.
	Would you very briefly share the story you shared with me about your son and Nancy Pelosi?
	Oh, well, this is one of those things about politics that is unfortunate.
	In fact, the other day we had two new members sworn into the chamber in special elections.
	I looked up to the gallery where the family members get to sit and watch, and of course both members had their families there.
	As is usual.
	Well, at least during the COVID crisis in January 3rd this year, everyone got at least one family member to sit in the chamber.
	I invited my son to come and he knows I love to see him in his Marine uniform.
	It's a nice uniform!
	And I just said, you know, do you mind coming?
	I said, you don't need to wear a uniform, just wear a suit, you'll be fine.
	And we got him down there.
	And he said, No, no, I'll wear my uniform for you.
	I was like, Oh, my God, like, I'm actually gonna get this.
	And he comes in, he looks fantastic.
	He's six, five, you know, he's in great shape, and gets up there and Nancy Pelosi says he can't come into the chamber.
	He can't even go into the gallery.
	And never once was COVID cited, which they're citing later.
	It was all security risk.
	Security risk.
	Your son is an active Marine in uniform.
	My son, who is a captain, a Naval Academy graduate and a captain who is denied access.
	And Nancy Pelosi did that because she can.
	And because Nancy Pelosi is, not only is she about power 24-7, she's about abuse of power 24-7.
	And that's the key And that's what she gets.
	She does that because she can.
	And I'll tell you, it backfired on her.
	And then she went back and tried to pressure the sergeant at arms to claim that there's some kind of COVID thing.
	Well, he was the only person in the entire gallery.
	And if you look at the January 3 swearing in, and any day in Congress, when we're in session, the gallery's full of people.
	And also the chamber is full of people.
	So that was nonsense.
	But again, that's what we do.
	This is the pettiness of Washington, that I have to say is just what's the problem.
	This is why people hate politicians.
	It's petty.
	But that's why I think you're not a politician.
	You're a citizen politician first, which is the tradition of this nation.
	Follow her right now at Claudia Tenney on Twitter.
	That's T-E-N-N-E-Y or the website ClaudiaForCongress.com.
	She's so right about Nancy.
	It's not just about power.
	It's about abuse of power.
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	It's about abuse of power.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yes, absolutely.
	For those who aren't familiar with your backstory, I didn't even know it until you came in today.
	You mentioned my book and then you said you saw me on TV and you bought my book which talks about my parents who escaped Hungary under communism and then mentions what was happening next door in Yugoslavia.
	Share with those who aren't familiar or who aren't from your district your connection to the Balkans and to Eastern Europe.
	I'm not of Yugoslavian descent or Balkan descent, but I did actually see you and I said, oh look, you know, because one of my jobs when I worked at the former Yugoslav consulate, which is obviously gone because of the war, was to look for people in the Balkans, people in the region, and I just, you know, anyone with a sort of the accent, even though Hungarian is not similar to Serbo-Croatian, it's a different I just said, "Oh, who's this guy?
	Oh, he's talking about Hungary." Interesting because of all that was happening.
	And Yugoslavia being so unique, technically not behind the Iron Curtain.
	Not a member of the Warsaw Pact.
	Yeah, Tito was able to keep him out of the common form.
	So I went to Yugoslavia as a student in 1981, 40 years ago, just for a study group, and ended up falling in love with the place.
	It's just so diverse and interesting and continued to stay there, work for the consulate, worked on the Olympics in Sarajevo in 1984, learned the language, you know, just have continued to go back.
	And then obviously through the war, it was a tough time for me.
	I had friends from every part of the country, the former Yugoslavia, you know, all everywhere, because we all worked in the consulate together.
	And so that's been sort of my connection and just living in a country that was communist and then seeing the transformation since the war and them trying to emerge as a market economy and reading your book where you hear about, you know, you're talking about some of the things that happened and how a lot of Hungarians were trying to cross through Yugoslavia and get to freedom and how Tito basically turned them in.
	Yeah.
	And they were the benevolent dictator who was Marshal Josip Tito, right?
	Yeah, so-called benevolent dictator.
	And that's where I, you know, I think we're on this moment in American history where people should learn that when they say, we have communism, we've never just done it quite right.
	And we had a benevolent dictator in Tito, not a benevolent dictator.
	Tito had, you know, a dissident camp where people were tortured and killed on a barren island in the Adriatic Sea.
	So it's all these communists.
	And he played the nationalities off each other.
	The Slovenes vs the Croatians, the Croatians vs the Serbs.
	Yeah, and technically he was Croatian, but first and foremost he was a communist, and he was able to bridge the gap and keep an allied relationship with the Americans, and with kind of keeping everyone at bay to maintain this sort of artificial union of these countries in Yugoslavia, which once Petito died, they devolved into war within about ten years.
	It's just interesting to see, here we are, you know, they're trying to sell socialism and communism on us again, and you get it, and everyone in my district who comes from these foreign countries, we have a lot of refugees, they get it more than the average American who doesn't understand.
	If you've lived under it, you get it.
	They get it.
	So I have to answer this.
	This is the thing that I'm not in your position.
	It's a constant question I ask the politicians who come in here.
	Can you even talk to your colleagues across the aisle?
	Because when you've got an AOC, when you've got a Rashida Tlaib, when you've got an Ilhan Omar, you've got a Bernie Sanders, who clearly hate what America stands for, They're not actually Democrats.
	Guys, if you don't believe me, look it up.
	Look how AOC became a politician.
	She was the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America.
	That's who ran her as a candidate.
	Is there any frequency you can converse with these people on?
	Because clearly they're trying to build socialism.
	So is there any rational discussion to be had?
	Yeah, you know, it's hard because the rumor about AOC was like she answered a casting call.
	Yes.
	Because she's a much better looking, more charismatic.
	She's a puppet of her brother.
	She's a friendly, you know, version of Bernie Sanders.
	He's a grumpy old man.
	A cuter version of Bernie Sanders.
	Right.
	I mean, they've got to find someone new.
	But, you know, what I try to say to them, and this is the problem in New York, which is unique, is there have been, I think, 18, I could be wrong, 18 members of the State Assembly, members of the State Senate, or Congress members who have been defeated.
	And some of these people I would consider very progressive or left, or certainly very liberal members in New York in primaries because of the Justice Democrats, AOC's wing.
	So many of them are in perpetual fear that they're going to have a primary against them.
	And they've taken people out across the nation in primaries.
	And I get this answer a lot.
	Well, You know, you believe in social security.
	Social security is socialism.
	I go, no it's not.
	We pay into the system.
	And by the way, had we not robbed it through Democrat administrations mostly throughout our history, it would actually be solvent and we'd have money there and we'd allow for investment from people who can afford to invest and should be given the option to do that.
	But of course that's vilified as, you know, we're trying to take away their social security benefits, the third rail all the time.
	So my concern is, I'd love to talk to some of these people and say, you don't want what AOC is selling, but so many of them are afraid of it.
	They're afraid to stand up to the far left.
	And we've got to start reaching out and saying, you don't want a Yugoslavia here.
	You don't want a Hungary here.
	You don't want a Soviet Union.
	And the other thing that's so hard about these countries is as the Soviet Union broke up, so many of these countries had a hard time coming out of it.
	And corruption set in too quickly because we didn't have enough influence.
	And you're seeing the Chinese are experts.
	They're the new Soviet Union.
	They're the biggest threat we face.
	But everywhere.
	They're the biggest threat to the world.
	Africa, you name it.
	How cleverly they're going into Africa, as you said, Africa, Asia, South America, and they're buying the infrastructure, and they're doing it in such a quiet way that, you know, these countries are leveraged now.
	They say, we'll build your highways, you just give us all your copper rights for the next 50 years.
	I mean, it's genius.
	But they're desperate.
	But they're desperate.
	And where's the United States standing there?
	I was just meeting with the Serbians, you know, they have lithium supply, but you know, the Chinese are already courting them, the Russians are courting them.
	They're on top of it.
	And where were they at the climate summit, Russia and China?
	Well, we're signing off and closing down pipelines and making ourselves less energy independent and not understanding that energy has to be reliable.
	Let me ask you, because I'm always so curious, everybody talks about this arch strategist who is Nancy.
	As far as I'm concerned, Nancy's lost the plot.
	I know she got to finally corral the votes together, but it took her three and four months.
	Is this person really still the arch strategist, the Speaker of the House?
	And her power is the ability to raise money, and the fact that she's sort of like the oak tree, and when the oak tree leaves its seeds, it often poisons them.
	And so who is going to take her place?
	Who's going to take her place?
	You know, there's a few names out there, a few people out there.
	And so she's created a scenario where there really isn't another natural leader.
	She's made sure that nobody, she's punched everybody down who's tried to move on.
	And even like a Tim Ryan is going on and running for Senate and something else.
	And so who's there?
	They say Hakeem Jeffries, probably, you know, among the most talented there.
	But can he go in and be as ruthless and diabolical and raise the money that she can?
	He scares me a little bit.
	You know, whether you agree with the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, he said in a tweet the other day, you know, yeah, he goes, lock him up and throw away the key.
	There's a guy that wants to stand for freedom and our Second Amendment rights.
	Hang on, hang on.
	He's a justice reformer.
	He's a lawyer.
	He's a justice reformer.
	Doesn't he care about the people in his community that are in danger that need to defend themselves against the high crime rate in New York City?
	Apparently not.
	Clearly not.
	Follow this lady.
	Go to her website claudiaforcongress.com.
	Also on Twitter at Claudia Tenney.
	T-E-N-N-E-Y.
	She's not a politician.
	She's a patriot representing the 22nd Congressional District of New York.
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	End The
	End When you came into the studio earlier today, we get politicians in the studio.
	You know, the good guys and good gals come in here, and the remarkable thing about them, especially in your case, is you come in, I say, would you like a coffee, would you like anything, a glass of water?
	And then I go out of the studio to get you a bottle of water, and I'm looking everywhere in the green room.
	Where's her retinue?
	Where's her entourage?
	There's a member of Congress!
	Where are the strap hangers?
	Where are the PR people?
	And there's nobody.
	So this just reinforces for me why you're the best example of what we need in America.
	Not career politicians like Nancy, like Chuck, who've been around for decades, but people who see themselves as Americans representing their fellow Americans.
	I'm going to ask you the question I ask all of the good guys and gals.
	Are we winning?
	Is that side... Is it burgeoning?
	Is it growing?
	You know, the Freedom Caucus, the people who don't want... I'll say it this way.
	I went to the members' dining room.
	To have lunch with a couple of Freedom Caucus people.
	And I asked them, is it as bad on the inside as I think it is from the outside?
	And one of them said, you know the trouble is, even in the GOP, 30-40% of us, they just want the job, they want the chairmanship with the chauffeur-driven limo, and they want the office with the fireplace.
	You do not represent that to me.
	So who's winning?
	Who's in the driving seat?
	What's the power relationship between the old guard and the citizen politicians like you?
	You know, it's a tough question.
	I'll tell you this funny story.
	I had to fight against the establishment in both parties just to get elected to the state assembly.
	I had to defeat the county chairman.
	Wow.
	And they were all working against me, and they always have.
	I never got endorsed by our local party, the Republican Party, running for office ever until after I was elected to Congress.
	So you won without any endorsement?
	I had to run a primary, had to put my own team together.
	So I know what it's like to be, you know, I'm also a lawyer, a business owner.
	I know what it's like to, but I'm trying to do, I'm trying to stand for our country and stand for our small business community and what we need to do.
	I don't see myself as part of a group or other than I want to represent my constituents.
	I'll tell you a funny story.
	So when I first got into the state assembly, I remember this old time assembly member who had, you know, here I am coming from the private sector.
	I don't know what pensions are.
	I don't know any of this stuff.
	And, you know, I'm all worried.
	I could care less if I, you know, use a folding chair and have a folding table.
	I mean, it doesn't really matter any of that stuff.
	And so this one person came up and said, oh, I can't believe, you know, we were minority members, Republicans, and the Democrats were in the majority.
	And they said, did you see the Democrats got all new mahogany desks and new computers?
	And we should have mahogany desks.
	I'm like, no, you shouldn't have mahogany desks.
	We don't need that stuff.
	We need to govern.
	We need to understand the taxpayers.
	And I love the Jeffersonian ideal.
	I mean, we are not supposed to be doing these jobs forever, which is why one of my first bills when I got into the Assembly was, let's take all the politicians who are elected and appointed off of the pension system.
	And put them in a 401k system, because if you're going to serve and you want to, you shouldn't have to leave and not be able to at least contribute to your own retirement.
	Because I was really in these non-contributory pensions and then, and of course that was not met with much approval.
	You know, an old friend of mine, Mike Fitzpatrick, or Fitzpatrick and the Assembly, he was part of it too, you know.
	What are we doing?
	How are we in a position where we're benefiting from something we're voting for?
	And that's what people are looking at.
	Logging time, getting the benefits.
	I know I got out of the assembly in six years.
	I term limited myself.
	I'm running for this position.
	I'll term limit myself from this.
	That's the point.
	And I understand people are against term limits because, you know, let the people decide.
	And that's true to some extent.
	But we have got such entrenchment with exactly the type of people you're talking about.
	The professional politicians are on both sides.
	So, you know, my fight is not to entrench myself here.
	How can I make a difference where we change some laws?
	And by the way, I loved my first term serving with President Trump as the president, having us in the majority, struggling with the Senate to get him to pass some of our bills, and trying to fight the fight.
	Because Republicans need to understand that the Democrats have their foot on the gas all day, 24-7.
	They never take a break.
	We cannot take a break, whether it's election integrity, whether it's standing up for freedom.
	We have to be, we can't sit there and say, when we take back the majority, We're gonna do X. No, we have to lead right now.
	We have to play the game.
	We have to do this now.
	This is so important.
	This is one of actually Saul Alinsky's original rules and rules for radicals.
	Even when you win a battle, you don't take a break.
	You pile on, you keep fighting and we...
	We have to learn that.
	We're talking to Congresswoman Claudia Tenney, New York 22.
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	The big reason that I want to have you in studio, Congresswoman, is you're one of the few people who's visibly doing something about the last election here in America.
	You've arrived in studio, as I was getting my coffee, you put these $350 bills on my- Million.
	$350 million.
	Million.
	Million dollar bills.
	Millions.
	Come on, Dr. Evil.
	This is Dr. Evil.
	On my desk here.
	And they've got that robot, Mark Zuckerberg's face on them.
	What is a Zuckerbuck?
	And why are Zuckerbucks perhaps the greatest threat to our republic?
	Well, election integrity is the number one issue everywhere I go after what we went through in the last election.
	And the biggest problem that we have with our country right now is anyone who dares to breathe a word about election irregularity, chaos, vote trafficking, which is what my name for vote harvesting because it's illegal.
	That's good.
	Those things, you're all of a sudden, you're labeled by the Democrats immediately, reflexively, you're an insurrectionist.
	You're all these terrible things because they know they're wrong.
	They're guilty.
	And that's why the reaction is beautiful.
	It immediately tells you, oh, I've hit a nerve.
	Yeah, they've got something to hide.
	They've got something to hide.
	And that's because they created chaos.
	And in some cases, a lot of this was legalized through pandemic laws like in New York, where they created an online database for vote trafficking, where they didn't have to comply with New York State Constitution, which requires, you know, some type of signature match or identification, All you needed was the name and address and date of birth.
	Every third party has that.
	Every Republican consultant, every Democrat consultant and anyone running for office has access to this.
	We can go through and say, look who voted, look who didn't, the voter rolls, the administration and maintenance of these records, people coming in from out of state, and H.R.
	1, the Democrats want to pass, which is that nationalization of our elections, banning voter ID, not to mention requiring the taxpayers to actually pay for elections.
	But a lot of things, not allowing us to know.
	I have 11 colleges in my district.
	Those students can register in my district, move anywhere in the country, outside the district, and we're not allowed to know that they voted in Pennsylvania or they voted in the Bronx.
	And many of them decided, I think they're going to vote shop.
	Both shopping.
	It's just like forum shopping in the legal world.
	You can decide where you want to vote, where your vote counts most.
	Where the Democrats need you.
	And that's one of the things that's in H.R.
	1.
	H.R.
	4, which is the next thing, which is weaponizing the legal system and the election system through the Department of Justice.
	So now everything goes through DOJ.
	And you know how corrupt DOJ is now Merrick Garland.
	So explain why Zuckerberg?
	What is a Zuckerberg?
	And what did he do in the last election that should be illegal?
	So what he did was take 350 million, actually, it was closer to over 400 million, and targeted that money, created these not for profits.
	And that money was supposed to go for pandemic relief, helping local boards of elections with PPP, helping people get to the polls, making sure that people could get in with social distancing and not be at risk with pandemic, with the pandemic.
	But really, almost 92% of it went directly into vote harvesting and vote trafficking and getting people to the polls in Democrat districts.
	And using private citizens to become Well, no, no, not just private citizens.
	Elected officials actually were given cars and ways of getting people to vote.
	So private funds were used.
	Private funds.
	I call it the privatization of our election.
	Private funds were laundered through non-profits.
	Those non-profits gave the money to the election districts and some of the states actually were very proactive in prohibiting this going forward.
	A great, you know, Ron DeSantis, Governor DeSantis in Florida did this.
	They're doing it in Pennsylvania and some of the other states.
	And, you know, just trying to make our rules fair.
	And I'll tell you, in Molly Hemingway, I talked to her, the great Molly Hemingway, who wrote the book called Rigged, a great book on what happened with the election.
	A lot of things that people don't understand is some of this was made legal.
	So when you say, you know, was it fraud?
	Well, it was legalized fraud because there's really not a way to challenge it.
	Because Democrat governors and secretaries of state legalized it.
	And courts.
	And so I asked Molly directly, I said, do you think had this 400 million in Zuckerbucks targeted at Democrat districts and swing states, had it not been spent, would the election outcome have been different?
	She said yes.
	And a lot of her work is based upon the incredible research of Phil Klein.
	Yes.
	Former Kansas Attorney General.
	He's been on my show many, many times.
	Everybody says, where's the proof?
	Well, guess what?
	Phil Kline's got the proof.
	Go to the Army Star Projects website and check it out, and he will tell you chapter and verse what happened in each state.
	Congresswoman, so you've started a caucus for election integrity to stop this.
	What can be done about it?
	We're in minority, so what's the plan?
	Well, so what we do in the caucus, we have almost 60 members.
	Unfortunately, no Democrats, surprisingly, don't care about election integrity.
	They don't want election integrity?
	Apparently not, but not when you're vote trafficking.
	So, interesting, what we do is gather as much information and put the information together on election integrity.
	We examine the cases, we work with lawyers, we have people as guests.
	on our caucus, usually every week, every other week.
	And those people give us more information.
	I'll tell you, there is an interesting guest we had who is Secretary Gardner, who is the Secretary of State of the state of New Hampshire.
	New Hampshire, he's a Democrat, has been there since 1976.
	He's against HR1.
	He's against early voting here.
	He's against no-excuse absentee voting.
	And he came to your caucus?
	He came to our caucus and talked about us against H.R.
	1.
	Now, New Hampshire, the Democrats are trying to change the law, but New Hampshire does not allow a no-excuse absentee voting.
	That means you can just go in, you can vote.
	No early voting, and they must announce who the winners are on election night.
	They have among the highest turnout by percentage of any state in the country.
	So when the Democrats argue, well, this is voter suppression or it's racist and all that, not the least in New Hampshire.
	It's the opposite.
	It's the opposite.
	What we've got to do, we've got to understand as Republicans, the right to vote is sacred.
	It is important.
	It's the greatest expression of our self-governance, and that's what we've got to preserve, and they're trying to undermine that.
	Talk about interfering with elections.
	That's what we've got to stand up for.
	You know, people have lost life and limbs so that we can vote privately, fairly, and safely in this country.
	If we lose that, then we will never win another election, and that's why we're working with state governments, local governments, informing them, telling them what are good laws, bad laws.
	They can, you know, go to tenney.house.gov or look us up.
	Uh, for, on election integrity, because we are trying to get, if you have information, if you know anything, we're also chronicling any type of incidents of, of irregularities or voter fraud that you, you evidence, and we want to make it public.
	We're, we're on top of what's going on in Virginia, uh, and, and also the incredible election in New Jersey, where there was all of a sudden 12,000 ballots discovered, magically discovered.
	So we're paying attention to those things and we're standing up loud.
	We're the loud majority on this.
	We want to make sure people know that we are fighting election integrity.
	We are not afraid of being bullied and vilified by the left and people who are against election integrity.
	We're going to stand for it every day.
	Well God bless you for creating that caucus and for gathering the other 60 members to be part of the Election Integrity Caucus.
	Find out more at tenny.house.gov.
	Follow her at Claudia Tenny on Twitter and also claudiatforcongress.com.
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	Thank you.
	Claudia, if I may, what is the big take-home for you from recent events?
	You mentioned Virginia, you mentioned New Jersey.
	I like to say to people, hey, you were wrong.
	They can't steal every election.
	So what's your big take-home?
	Well, New Jersey still concerns me, obviously, as a left-leaning state and the laws they'll pass.
	But I'll say one thing, we got heavily involved in the three ballot initiatives that were put in New York State that would have changed the entire course of New York State, which the Democrats put into play to roll back our voter integrity.
	When you say we, is that the caucus or the GOP?
	The Election Integrity Caucus.
	We worked with our state chair and a number of groups around the state.
	We advertised heavily.
	We put a lot of effort into it.
	We defeated those three ballot initiatives, which would have turned us back to where we were before these laws that we passed in 2014 in New York.
	To maintain election integrity, to maintain independent redistricting.
	All that was on the ballot and we won those.
	We actually won them decisively in New York State.
	So we are fighting this fight and we are going to go around the country.
	We want to make sure it's preserved.
	So that's my take on that.
	But we have to be engaged.
	We have to have everyone who can possibly be there.
	We can't accept this narrative of the Democrats that somehow the Republicans want to suppress the vote.
	We want every legal citizen to vote in our elections.
	That would be ideal and that's the goal we're striving for because we know the larger the turnout, the more people favor freedom and the more they express themselves and understanding how important it is.
	As you know, coming from a communist country, everybody knows how you vote in those countries.
	Isn't it funny how Putin and all these dictators win by 95%?
	They have that 5% just in case.
	Like Hillary won in DC.
	Right.
	Same kind of results as Saddam.
	A little bit weird.
	But they know exactly.
	I mean, this is, you know, look at cheating in elections is not a new thing.
	Right.
	It's just they're better at it now.
	And we have got to be ahead of them.
	And I'll tell you right now, the Republicans are not ahead of the game right now.
	We have got a little less than a year, but we've got to get ahead of the game.
	We have to get you back, because you're right, they're not ahead of the game, and we have to have people like you keep their feet to the fire.
	We've been talking to Claudia Tenney.
	Follow her, claudia4congress.com.
	I see she's been eyeing our bumper stickers here, the resist this, hashtag resist this.
	We're going to give you a couple of those, but more importantly, because you are definitely America first, we're going to give you one of our America first hats.
	God bless you for what you do.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	I love it.
	From this day forward, it's going to be only America first!

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