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Oct. 18, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Bongino declares war on vax fascists
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people think the world is a pie it's It is of fixed size.
And that one slice of the pie means there are lefts for the rest.
They're stupid.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network coming to you from just outside the insolubrious fetid swamp that is Washington DC.
I don't look at talk radio as a pie where everybody's competing for the biggest slice.
I especially don't look at conservative talk radio that way.
And if I'm about to annoy you, tough.
Why?
Because we have a nation to rescue.
So if you're a conservative, if you're a patriot, I'm on your side and you're on mine.
If the local GM, if the CEO is of a competing company, that doesn't matter to my mission.
So I'm going to play a clip from another radio host from another company.
Why?
Because he's one of us.
He's a good guy.
He's Dan Bongino.
And he's a friend of mine.
But before I do that...
Let me set the scene.
Because another radio host from the same company that Dan works for has been terminated.
And he's also a friend of mine.
And why was he terminated?
He was fired because he believes in bodily autonomy.
Not only that, for medical reasons his doctor has told him that he should not get vaccinated.
As a result, he's not getting vaccinated, which should be his right!
Whether or not he had medical reasons, it should be his right!
His name is Brother Tron, and here's the story.
Another right-wing radio host in Colorado Springs says he has, quote, been terminated due to his refusal to get the COVID vaccine as required by his radio station.
Tron Simpson, The Weekend KVOR talk show host and KKFM announcer made the announcement on his Facebook page October 9th.
Both stations are owned by Cumulus Media.
which issued a mandate to employees August 11th giving them until October 11th to get the Covid shot and stating that vaccinations are part of the effort to combat the Delta variant.
Tron Simpsons Post read the following.
As of this moment, I no longer will be hosting a talk show on KVOR, nor announcing on KKFM, as I have been terminated due to my refusal because of doctors' orders to receive the Chinese Covid-19 injections, Tron Simpson said.
Likewise, KVOR's Jeff Crank, also a Conservative Weekend radio host, refused to get the Covid vaccine and was told last week by the station not to continue his show.
His last show was on Saturday and he has been a show host on KVOR for over 13 years.
When I heard the news today, I called Tron.
And Tron's gonna fight.
Because that's what patriots do.
And today, as I was getting ready for my show, I tuned in to the opening monologue from my friend Dan Bongino, who also works for Cumulus.
In the business, this is behind the scenes.
I'm really not interested in all this behind the scenes stuff, but just so that you know, there's a couple of big radio companies.
I work for the best one.
It's called Salem.
They're conservatives.
They're Christians.
They love this country.
They're patriots.
They're not firing people because they believe in bodily autonomy.
In fact, we, Salem, God bless, you know who you are out there, Mr. Big Man.
We have hired people that Cumulus have fired or refused to retain just two weeks ago.
Somebody on a cumulus station, good friend of mine, said, we've got a young kid here.
He's not getting the shot.
They want to terminate him.
Can you help?
I said, send me the resume now.
I sent it up the chain of command and he was hired within a matter of days.
Because we're not fascists here.
Because we believe in individual liberty and freedom.
Now it's not just kids operating the boards.
It's talent!
It's the guy in front of the mic, like Brother Tron!
And God bless Dan, because Dan works for Cumulus.
For the people who don't believe in medical freedom!
And this is what Dan said today, and he's kept talking about it for about an hour and a half!
But this is what he said, despite working for that radio company, Playcut.
Imagine the countless number of individuals trying to explain to these companies ever thought of that?
The countless numbers of moms and dads who are sitting at some kitchen table explaining to their kids how they may have to move out, how daddy doesn't have a job.
Because a bunch of people in a C-suite thought it'd be a good idea to sit around and play pretend Dr. Fauci for a moment and mandate people jam something in their bodies that they don't want to take.
You ever put yourself in that role?
You ever put yourself at that kitchen table with mom and dad telling their kids that?
Imagine how the kids respond?
That fear they gotta live with?
You know, I grew up without a lot of money.
My mom used to make bologna sandwiches for dinner.
And when the bologna was no good, you'd cook it.
And you'd make it good right quick, right?
I'm not leaving any of those guys behind.
You can have me or you can have the mandate.
But you can't have both of us.
That's Dan Bongino earlier today with a very simple message for the people who run his show on Cumulus.
You can choose me or the mandate.
You don't see that a lot.
You don't see that in media.
He's declaring a very simple statement.
To the people who need him, who wanted him on that rush slot every afternoon.
You better stop it and you better stop it now.
And his point is such a powerful one.
What do people think?
Those airline pilots, those nurses, those police officers.
I met, oh my gosh, I met, God bless, alright I'll just say his name, Juan Carlo.
Former sheriff deputy in one of the cities I visited at the weekend.
Thank you for my fillings.
God bless you.
I had to travel for Salem to California and they got security for me in San Francisco.
I didn't ask for it.
Two amazing guys, former Marine, former law enforcement guy and another guy who'd just left a certain sheriff's department very close to San Francisco.
Young guy, not a retirement age.
I mean, just a young strapping, handsome man straight out of Central casting and I said, uh, what happened?
Why did you, why did you resign?
Because I'm healthy and I'm not taking the vaccine.
And he left his job.
He left his job!
What do these people, what do these people think those police officers, those nurses, those pilots are doing?
They're walking away from their salaries.
From the income!
From the pensions!
What, as a joke?
As a stunt?
They're doing it because they're Americans and they're patriots and they believe in liberty!
Are you going to stand up to the fascists following that little fascist Fauci?
Because guess what, guys?
We outnumber them.
We have strength in numbers.
Do not comply to unconstitutional mandates.
It's time to take our country back.
Get engaged politically.
Otherwise, we lose the greatest nation.
The End
Thank you.
Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
After two years of lockdowns and mandates that have crippled America's economy, Washington DC still hasn't gotten the message.
Small business owners are hurting while their big global competitors thrive.
What's Washington's response?
More mandates, more government spending, more tax increases on small businesses, the same misguided policies of the ruinaceous Carter administration.
Only one organization in America is fighting back against the war on small businesses, and that's the Job Creators Network.
And they're taking their message on the road.
In October, the Bring Small Business Back bus tour may be coming to a town near you.
Visit jcnbustour.com to see the tour schedule.
Go to jcnbustour.com for more We have fewer democracies in the world today than we did 15 years ago.
Did you see Sleepy Creepy?
Fewer!
So strange.
He got all angry old man talking about the state of the world.
I guess it beats talking about America.
Cut 12.
We have fewer democracies in the world today than we did 15 years ago.
Fewer.
Not more.
Fewer.
Cannot be sustained.
Amen.
That's weird.
Who was vice president for more than half of those 15 years?
Sleepy Creepy!
So I guess he's to blame.
Let's talk to somebody who isn't an angry old man and who actually loves this country.
Representing the 22nd congressional district of New York.
She's not a politician.
She's a citizen first.
And a congresswoman.
Claudia Temi.
Welcome back to America First.
Great to be on.
How are you?
Great clip.
Yeah, I know.
He's worried about the lack of democracies in other parts of the world.
What about the lack of democracy or transparent government here?
This is a nation where, you introduced me to the phrase in the break, where there's such a thing as Zucker Bucks undermining our republic.
Congressman Tenney, can you explain to our millions of listeners, what are Zucker Bucks?
Well, one of the biggest things this election, you know, everyone's question was the election stolen?
Did Trump really win?
And the true answer is, I don't think we'll ever know.
But one thing we do know, we know that Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg put what we found out is over $420 million into these campaigns.
And, you know, with no transparency, no accountability, speaking of no democracy, manipulating elections, interfering with elections, the Democrats' favorite word from, you know, 2016.
You know, these big tech billionaires like Zuckerberg actually influenced our elections more than anyone in history has.
And so people say, what did they use this money for?
This money was used for what they call electioneering.
It was used for get-out-the-vote campaigns.
Mailers to registered voters, online voter registration drives, promoting these ballot curing and all this stuff we heard about, democracy in the park in Wisconsin.
And what are these things?
These are all illegal under our election laws.
That's why I formed the Election Integrity Caucus with my colleague, Congressman Mike Garcia of California, who also had a tight race in a state like California that has terrible vote harvesting, or we call them vote trafficking laws like they do in New York.
So what we did is I put out a bill that said, let's end Zuckerberg now.
So the End Zuckerberg Act actually uses the IRS to prohibit groups that Mark Zuckerberg used.
The Center for Technology and Civic Life and another Center for Election, I think, Innovation and Research prevents them from using these nonprofits.
To try to use that money for actual electioneering and vote harvesting.
I call it again, vote trafficking, because it should be illegal and is illegal.
That's a much, much better phrase.
I use the phrase of ballot harvesting, never been satisfied with it.
It's like collecting the harvest, really.
No, no, no.
Vote trafficking.
I'm going to use that from now on.
Thanks to you.
What is happening in the last nine months across the nation?
I know some states have taken some action, but the idea, I mean, next time, Claudia, next time, Congresswoman Tenney, it could be billions of dollars.
Could it not be used to privatize our elections?
Well, this is all we know.
This is all we can find through this organization.
It's not transparent.
It was done through, you know, through these not-for-profits, and these not-for-profits claim that this money was going to be used for PPE for the various election locations, you know, because we're trying to operate elections in a pandemic.
Well, it turned out 99% was used for this vote trafficking.
And then of all that money used, 92% went to Democratic-leaning districts, particularly in swing states.
Even some was used in my district in Democrat areas.
So all this money was used.
To influence elections for Democrats used by a big tech billionaire through, you know, laundered through these nonprofits so that you couldn't really trace it back.
And that, uh, you know, this has all come to light again.
I've been talking about this for months, but the great book rigged, put out by Molly Hemingway has brought this to light again with even more detail and more research.
So people can see exactly what was happening and what they were doing to try to interfere with our elections.
Again, it can't be understated how much they interfered with this election and probably changed the outcome.
My advice to your viewers, though, right now, we can't get the courts to weigh in on these things.
What we need to do now, as people who care about the sacred right to vote and preserving our election integrity and our system, we need to make sure that they don't do this again.
And we need to make sure we're informed.
We need to make sure that H.R.
1, H.R.
4 don't pass.
Those are the Democrats' bills, Nancy Pelosi's bills, that will federalize elections and weaponize the Department of Justice against our election commissioners around the country and states and local governments trying to operate elections out of the federal side using the Democrat control, using Merrick Garland and others.
So we just want to make sure that people are on top of this.
Get educated.
Get out there.
If you can, be involved in the election process to make sure that they don't do to us In 2021 and 2022, what they did in 2020.
Follow this lady, support this lady.
Claudia4Congress.com is the website.
The Twitter handle is Claudia Tenney and also Rep Tenney.
T-E-N-N-E-Y.
I have to ask you this.
You're fighting to make sure our elections are not undermined in the future.
Is your party, is the GOP doing enough, Congresswoman Tenney?
We can always do more.
I think that we're not ready for 2021, but kudos to Ronna McDaniel at RNC and others.
They are actually involved in election integrity and they're investing in it.
We need to continue to invest, not just through RNC, but we need to invest throughout the state and everywhere to make sure that every legal vote counts and that each person is guaranteed one vote, not multiple votes.
And that's the real issue here.
And that's the only way we're going to preserve election integrity.
And you know, the Democrats talk about Republicans wanting to suppress the vote.
Not true.
We want more people to vote.
We want it easier to vote and harder to cheat.
And the Democrats want the opposite.
Yeah, well, I for one, you're inside the sausage factory.
I'm not seeing enough from GOP headquarters or Rona Romney, McDaniel.
If we knew in advance that 80 million ballots had been mailed out, There should have been poll watchers at the polling stations months in advance.
If they drop the ball again, that's it.
It becomes a one-party state.
But God bless you for creating, along with Mike Garcia, the Election Integrity Caucus and for proposing that bill.
We've got to stop the Zuckerbuck.
So who knows who it's going to be in the future, but the privatization of elections is illegal and should be treated as such.
God bless you.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, taking your calls on 833-33-Gawker, G-O-R-K-A.
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Gorka, G-O-R-K-A.
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The End
Mic's are back on?
Can you play me... Yes.
Eleven.
Can you play me?
Yes.
Eleven.
Eleven.
What we're staring at, what we're the gun that we are staring at with a potential Donald Trump presidency coming back.
If the Democrats do not walk away with a victory here, and you can package this as a victory, there's no question about it.
They are so vulnerable.
I actually believe right now, if Donald Trump ran against Joe Biden, Donald Trump would win.
And even if he wouldn't win legally, we see what's happening in the state legislatures.
We are on the precipice, and this is not the time for the Democrats to be lurching left.
This is the time for them to grow up, put their big boy and girl panties on, and understand what is at stake here, and get this deal done.
Okay.
Cut.
Cut.
I think I just saw your tweet.
It's ironic that goods are stuck outside the U.S., but illegal migrants have no problem getting in.
Good one, Congressman, good one.
Explain it.
Well, no, I mean, our southern border has been open every single month.
I mean, just it's like we're letting them in.
It's almost like it's a deliberate, intentional policy they've adopted month after month after month, up over 200,000 illegal encounters in the month of July and August, each of those two months.
That's the end of it?
Yeah, because then it goes off into something else.
Alright.
Uh, give me Fauci cut 9.
Cut 9.
The FDA will be looking at the data from Pfizer.
I believe it's October the 26th.
They'll make a regulatory determination and then likely the next week, which would probably be the first couple of days in November, then the CDC will do what they do.
They'll have their advisory committee and immunization practices look at the data and make a recommendation.
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You know, they're getting worried.
I'm going to show you two pieces of evidence.
On just how worried the left has become.
The first one is from this absolute reprobate.
This reptile of a non-human.
Scum of the earth.
This is Donnie Deutch.
What grown man is called Donnie, by the way?
It's a little disturbing.
Who's on an MSNBC telling the left they better get things under control because...
Donald Trump might win.
Cat 11.
What we're staring at, the gun that we are staring at with a potential Donald Trump presidency coming back.
If the Democrats do not walk away with a victory here, and you can package this as a victory, there's no question about it.
They are so vulnerable.
I actually believe right now if Donald Trump ran against Joe Biden, Donald Trump would win.
And even if he wouldn't win legally, we see what's happening in the state legislatures.
We are on the precipice, and this is not the time for the Democrats to be lurching left.
This is the time for them to grow up, put their big boy and girl panties on, and understand what is at stake here, and get this deal done.
Donnie!
A man called Donnie is telling his fellow Democrats to be big girls and boys and put their big panties on.
You're called Donnie, by the way, okay?
When did you start wearing long pants, is my question.
But I need a Saturday check here.
Mr. G, you there?
Yes, I am.
Didn't he say Donald Trump would win?
But even if he didn't, he'd steal it?
Isn't he a little bit confused?
Yeah, that's kind of like the same logic that it's, uh, the 3.5 trillion dollar bill zeroes cost.
These guys, they're worried, aren't they?
Oh, yes, they are.
You can tell that they know, they can see the way the polling's going.
You want another piece of evidence I got today?
My gun dealer, Brian!
Amazing guy.
Hope he's listening.
He called me up and he said, Seb, can I just tell you something?
We had massive Trump signs for the election in front of our house.
Huge Trump signs.
And the local county in Virginia told us to take them down almost immediately.
But we've had Youngkin signs up for months and nobody told us to take them down.
Why is that?
Until yesterday!
Why?
Why did this county in Virginia wait until yesterday to send somebody out, an inspector, to my friend's front yard to say, you've got to take those down now or we will fine you.
Oh, I know why.
Because the latest poll says that Glenn Youngkin, after he came on our show, is beating Terry McAuliffe!
They just... It's like 2016 again.
They just didn't take Trump's... Oh, it's a joke.
It's a...
It's a publicity stunt.
Don't worry about him.
Hillary, what did the Times say?
91% victory.
That was in October.
On the day of the election in November, the Huffington Post said that Hillary has a 97% chance of winning and Donald Trump has a, what was it?
1.6%?
1.6 on the day.
Huffington Post.
What's her name?
Ariella Huffington.
Oh, you so amuse me.
I'm saving that tweet forever.
I love the internet.
They're worried.
Bigly worried.
Little Donny is worried.
Terry's so worried.
He's even admitted on the record.
Biden's not popular in Northern Virginia.
I wonder why he's not popular.
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I presume we reached out to him, right?
What did you want to say?
Hang on one second.
We reached out to the councilman, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Did we say topics?
You're talking about the alderman guy?
Yeah.
He hasn't responded.
Oh, oh, okay.
Alright, what was you going to say?
Alright, two and a half minutes.
Yep.
Uh, titles in mind?
Uh, 1A, Bongino declares war on, um... Vaccine mandates?
Or do you want to name drop cumulus?
Uh, no, um... Yep, alright, hang on, I'll try to get you on.
Vaccine fascism.
Vaccine fascism, okay.
And the congresswoman?
Congresswoman, how Facebook and Zuckerberg illegally interfered in the elections.
Hi, what's your name?
Where are you calling from?
What do you want to say?
Can you play me Cut 13?
Cut 13. Cut 13.
Yeah.
We'll be voting on a report in the committee.
The report concludes that Bannon should be held in contempt.
But we're not messing around here.
We're moving very expeditiously.
To me, this is an early sign of whether our democracy is recovering, whether it's true that no one is above the law, that the rule of law must apply.
So we intend to go after anyone who doesn't provide information that they're lawfully compelled to to our committee.
He looks like such a pudding head.
Nine. - No.
Not the Fauci one?
No, no, 8.
If you're vaccinated and your family members are vaccinated, those who are eligible, and that is obviously very young children and not yet eligible, that you can enjoy the holidays.
You can enjoy Halloween, trick-or-treating, and certainly Thanksgiving with your family and Christmas.
With your families.
That's one of the reasons why we emphasize why it's so important to get vaccinated.
Not only for your own safety, for that of your family, but also for the good of the community to keep the level of infection down.
When you do that, there's no reason at all why you can't enjoy the holidays in a family way the way we've traditionally done it all along.
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They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
Have you heard the latest?
That little fascist Fauci dictating whether or not you can celebrate your holidays?
Cut eight.
If you're vaccinated and your family members are vaccinated, those who are eligible, that is obviously very young children and not yet eligible, that you can enjoy the holidays.
You can enjoy Halloween, trick-or-treating, and certainly Thanksgiving with your family, and Christmas.
with your families.
That's one of the reasons why we emphasize why it's so important to get vaccinated, not only for your own safety, for that of your family, but also for the good of the community to keep the level of infection down.
When you do that, there's no reason at all why you can't enjoy the holidays in a family way, the way we've traditionally done it all along.
I have one thing to say to that.
I don't need a little fascist like Fauci's permission to do anything - Interesting.
How about you?
Really?
Oh, by the way, Colin Powell died.
Rest in peace.
He was fully vaccinated.
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Waiting patiently in Texas.
Carl, line one.
Carl, are you there?
JR, Nashville, line two.
Hey, Dr. G. I sleep so much better knowing that the dictator Fauci will allow me to celebrate Thanksgiving.
It's so nice of him, isn't it, to allow you, JR, if you're vaccinated.
Now I have total permission To be free in the United States of America.
And it just warms my heart.
JR, we had to wait for more than two centuries to find out that we could live in freedom under his diktat.
I mean, it took us 200 plus years.
Well put.
Well put.
The reason I'm calling, and I'm not trying to plug somebody, but with your permission, there is a man running for The U.S.
Senate in the state of Ohio.
I have two homes, Columbus, Ohio and Nashville.
And his name is Bernie Marino.
He is the real deal.
All right, stay on the line.
Let's get the details.
Give them to Mr. G. We'll check him out.
If JL vouches for him, we're more than 50 percent there.
Carl is back in Texas.
He picked up his phone.
Welcome, Carl.
Hey, Sebastian, how you doing today?
Good, good.
Glad we could reconnect.
I'll make this concise and short, and then a short comment.
Okay, I couldn't figure out what woke meant, but I finally figured it out.
I'm just country boy, but it means war on kids.
They're making them wear masks.
They're breathing their own breath back into themselves, losing oxygen.
That now they're firing their parents, so they're gonna be broke.
So they're gonna be scared as hell by the time they grow up of the government.
Yeah.
And they're taking advantage of them.
No, this is really important.
The war on kids.
It's not just the masks.
It's not just the insane mandates.
You've got a cut of Fauci talking about vaccinating children.
It's also the psychological damage.
I said this at the event.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I said this at the event we spoke at.
I was there with Larry Elder in California this weekend.
Just think about this.
Think about this.
We know, developmentally, that children have to see the face of their parents.
They have to see the face of the children they're playing with.
Of the teacher.
Yeah, of the teacher.
I guarantee you this.
I'm sad to say this, but I guarantee you this.
Because of Fauci, because of this science denial that they are undertaking right now, 20 years from now, when the kids grow up,
We will see untold, untold psychological damage, developmental damage for these children out there because they haven't had that quintessential, that non-negotiable necessity of actually seeing another human being at these crucial moments in their lives.
Absolutely.
And this is down to a handful of people who said, remember, remember Carl, what he said first, he said, oh, you don't need a mask.
If you're a regular, if you're not a nurse, if you're not a doctor, you shouldn't be wearing a mask.
You have to wear masks.
And then you need two masks.
And then we found the original audio where he said, it's hysteria if you wear masks, if you wear masks.
Yeah, Carl, it is.
I like it.
I don't know what the E is, but war on kids is the right description.
Real quick, I heard on the radio today that, and I'm here in Texas, and I heard on the radio today that the people in Mexico are firing at our troops down there.
Yeah, there was an incident last week.
I was with the 82nd Airborne Division.
I got one thing to say, fire back.
Let's go Brandon.
It was shocking, shocking footage.
The cartels standing at the border brazenly Brandishing their arms.
Also reports of shots fired across the border.
And what is this man doing?
What is Biden doing?
He's shouting at the podium, there are less democracies in the world today than there were 15 years ago.
Yeah, for eight of those years, you were the vice president, and now you sadly bear the title of president.
So who's responsible for that, Sleepy Creepy?
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Okay.
And then...
Bring.
I love all the great monoliths of abstraction.
The racism, the science, all the things you can just, you know, not look at pragmatics on and be like, oh, you know.
But yeah, democracy is the one.
We've got to save, we've got to rebuild the democracy.
That is creepy.
I'm going to play that again because it's so creepy.
What is this weird abstract idea of democracy that you have that is being built up and taken down in random increments by people you don't like?
Weird.
Eric, can you find me the link for Biden in Chicago a week ago?
Doing what?
Giving a speech.
Oh, okay.
Is there anything particular you wanted from that?
Just the whole speech.
You're gonna watch it?
No, Tucker mentioned it, but didn't play any sots.
And allegedly he called the unvaccinated the plague or something.
I'm trying to find it.
October 7th.
Elk Grove Village, Illinois.
There's a transcript on the White House website.
Oh, good.
Send me the transcript.
Yes.
One thing I can appreciate WhiteHouse.gov for doing.
Alright.
Although, who knows whether they edited the transcript.
Right?
They have to.
If you did his real transcript the way... We've got to find the transcript for when he said Eka Mecha International Wobbly.
What they put in there for that phrase.
Oh man.
What have I not listened to?
Oh!
Give me, quickly, Cut 7.
This is my final sign off.
After 22 years of serving the citizens of the state of Washington, I'm being asked to leave because I am dirty.
Numerous fatalities, injuries.
I've worked sick.
I've played sick.
We've buried lots of friends over these years.
I'd like to thank you guys.
I'd like to thank the citizens of Yakima County as well as my fellow officers within the Valley.
Without you guys I wouldn't have been very successful and you've kept me safe and got me home to my family every night.
Thank you for that.
Wish I could say more, but, um, this is it.
So, State 1034, this is the last time you'll hear me on a state patrol plane.
Alright.
I wanna, I wanna come in with that.
Okay.
Um, I want that cut for the TV show.
I figured it.
Okay.
15 seconds.
Coming in with that cut.
Standby.
Standing by.
You're listening to America First with Dr. G.
This is my final sign off.
After 22 years of serving the citizens of the state of Washington, I'm being asked to leave because I am dirty.
Numerous fatalities, injuries.
I've worked sick.
I've played sick.
We've buried lots of friends over these years.
I'd like to thank you guys.
I'd like to thank the citizens of Yakima County as well as my fellow officers within the Valley.
Without you guys I wouldn't have been very successful and you've kept me safe and got me home to my family every night.
Thank you for that.
Wish I could say more, but this is it.
So State 1034, this is the last time you'll hear me in a State Patrol car.
And Jay Inslee can kiss my ass.
That's a message for Governor Inslee of the state of Washington from a state trooper in Yakima County.
It's exactly what Dan Bongino was talking about today.
These people are walking away from the job.
Why?
Because they believe in personal sovereignty, in the integrity of their liberties.
It's time to take our nation back, my friends.
Let's go to your calls.
Glenn, Arizona, Line 5, welcome.
There's things my mom and I were talking about the other day about Sheriff Villanueva pushing back.
And it seems like the only ones that are pushing back are sheriffs, because they are elected.
So, mayor, governor can't come in and pluck them out.
But what I have a problem with is the other three, four hundred that are not.
In particular, chief of police.
So, I used to live in the People's Republic of California, and I don't believe what the Democrats are pushing about defunding the police.
I believe it's a ruse, and I'll give you an example.
Gavin Newsom, who is probably the most progressive Marxist in America today, governors that is, of the governors.
He was one of the people, he didn't push it for defunding the police as a position as governor, but he backed the people that were pushing it.
So last year when Orange County decided to keep the beaches open, the county, the sheriff there, did not, wasn't going to force anything, the mandate from the state.
Governor Newsom sent the Highway Patrol like stormtroopers and shut that whole state beach down.
I was there.
I saw it.
So what I see is the Democrat Party is when they fully get in power, do we believe, do we see any socialist states around the world which they do not have a police state?
It's a ruse.
And when they finally get into power, trust me, Sebastian, they will use these law enforcement apparatus to the fullest extent.
We see it with the FBI going after parents now, and this is just the In my opinion, this is a tip of the iceberg here of what the power they will exhort over us using law enforcement.
If they think they can get away with it, they will use force.
What we are witnessing in Australia will occur here if we let them get away with it.
We need more officers like that one.
We need not just going on sickies, we need people to refuse to go to work If they are being treated in these dictatorial fashions, you're right.
Stay on the line, Glenn.
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Back here on America First in a second.
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Can we do a little bit of grad school here?
We like to do that on radio.
A little bit of edumacation, as they say.
Or should it just be fun and news updates?
Oh, by the way, China has a hypersonic missile that is nuclear capable.
It's like, guys, really?
That's news?
Nuclear capable?
Do you know how small nuclear devices... I mean, the Americans fielded a nuclear mortar during the Cold War.
Do you know what that is?
I mean, like, a mortar.
A man-portable, you know, three-man... We had a nuclear one.
Not very good for the guys using it, because the blast radius of the mortar round was... would have included the people who were launching the mortar.
But nukes are really quite small nowadays.
Of course, any sizable missile could be used to carry a nuke, but the news here is that it's hypersonic.
It's super, super fast, which makes it harder, if not impossible, to intercept.
Well, with that breaking news, we're going to give you the goods.
We're going to spend the whole third hour with one of the leading, if not the leading experts on China here on America First Today, David Goldman.
The Spengler columnist.
He's no longer under that pseudonym.
He's come out of the closet.
People know who writes the Spengler column for the Asia Times.
It's our good friend.
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Last, what was it, Friday?
Was Friday Serabian, right?
I think it was.
Was it Serabian or not?
The last one-on-one we did was incredible.
I mean, truly incredible.
It was from somebody you won't have heard on the media, former White House colleague of mine, and he gave us One of the best analyses of where the MAGA movement is, where America First is going.
So these are the things you get if you subscribe to our podcast, wherever you get your podcasts, look for me on America First.
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If you want the video feed, the live stream, if you want segments, my monologues, go to rumble.com slash Seb Gawker.
That's rumble.com.
Okay, let's talk about how you deal with the media, or how you don't deal with the media first.
I woke up this morning, gone on social media, as I do, and I saw a video posted by a friend of mine saying, this is great!
This is a former left-wing journalist.
She's a Zionist, so I'm not sure if that counts as left-wing, but she worked for the New York Times, I believe.
Was fine.
Bari Weiss was the post of the Times.
What was Bari Weiss's work?
Times, thank you.
The New York Times.
Jewish and pro-Israel, which of course was a problem, such that she was actually in internal messaging.
Each company has their internal messaging system.
Her fellow non-Jewish colleagues called her fascist and a Nazi.
And eventually she had to leave.
The liberal, tolerant New York Times.
Barry Weiss, for some reason, went on to CNN.
Now, A, here's the question.
Why go on CNN if you're not going to utterly destroy them because nobody watches them?
If you're just going to be reasonable, is there a point?
Well, she made some great points, the little potato head, Brian Stelter.
But it was a little bit too nice.
So let's do a compare and contrast.
Here is part one of what Bari Weiss said to the court eunuch who is Brian Stelter.
Play cuts.
You're right.
There are tens of millions of Americans who aren't on the hard left or the hard right who feel the world has gone mad.
So in what ways has the world gone mad?
Well, you know, when you have the chief reporter on the beat of COVID for the New York Times talking about how questioning or pursuing the question of the lab leak is racist, the world has gone mad.
When you're not able to say out loud and in public that there are differences between men and women, the world has gone mad.
When we're not allowed to acknowledge that rioting is rioting and it is bad, and that silence is not violence, but violence is violence, the world has gone mad.
When we're not able to say that Hunter Biden's laptop is a story worth pursuing, the world has gone mad.
When, in the name of progress, young school children, as young as kindergarten, are being separated in public schools because of their race, and that is called progress rather than segregation, the world has gone mad.
All very good points.
But then, Brian takes umbrage, because CNN is a purveyor of self-said same fake news.
Cut to.
Who's the people stopping the conversation?
Who are they?
Um, people let work at networks, frankly, like the one I'm speaking on right now, who try and claim that, you know, it was, it was racist to investigate the lab leak theory.
It was, I mean, let's just take an example.
But I'm just saying that when you say allowed, I just think it's a provocative thing to say.
You say, you say, we're not allowed to talk about these things, but they're all over the internet.
I can Google them.
I can find them everywhere.
I've heard about every story you mentioned.
So I'm just suggesting, of course, people are allowed to cover whatever they want to cover.
But you and I both know, and it would be delusional to claim otherwise, that touching your finger to an increasing number of subjects that have been deemed third rail by the mainstream institutions and increasingly by some of the tech companies will lead to reputational damage, perhaps you losing your job, your children sometimes being demonized as well.
And so what happens is a kind of internal self-censorship.
This is something that I saw over and over again when I was at the New York Times.
So, she's trying to appear.
She's the host of something, or the writer for something called Common Sense.
She's been banished from the New York Times.
And she's saying, you and I both know Brian.
She's trying to be nice.
Are you going to make a difference, Barry Weiss?
Really?
With Brian Stelter?
Here's a different way of dealing with CNN and fake news.
What order should we do these in?
We're going to do a little bit of a reprise of my media appearances when I was in the White House.
Shall we go from the... Shall we start with the ladies and then work our way up to...
Cooper, what do you think?
Since you just played a clip of an absolute moron from CNN, Brian Stelter, why don't you start with another absolute moron from CNN, Fredo Cuomo?
All right, we'll start with Fredo, okay?
So this is, you've got to listen to what Fredo does, and none of, of course, none of this is rehearsed, and they always lie about what they want to talk to you about.
This is what I did to Fredo when I went on his show.
Play cut, cut three.
Let's do a little bit of a 101.
Let's do a little trivial pursuit.
What is the most populous Muslim nation in the world, Chris?
You tell me.
These are your answers.
No, no.
You tell me.
What is the biggest Muslim nation in the world?
No, you tell me.
Massive population.
I want to give you the opportunity to lay it out.
Assume I know nothing.
Go ahead.
It's Indonesia.
I will assume you know nothing.
What's the largest Arab nation in the world?
You tell me.
Egypt.
When a kratin live on TV says, assume I know nothing, that's when you give them the gut punch.
Yeah, Fredo, I'm gonna assume you know nothing.
Because I'm trying to actually talk about the Muslim, the Arab, the Middle Eastern travel ban.
Because it's not a Muslim Middle Eastern.
It's a travel moratorium for those coming from terrorist countries.
And you don't know where the most populous terrorist countries are, such as Indonesia, which isn't even Arab.
But let's continue.
Let's go to Alison Camarada.
Another demonstration of how you deal with CNN.
Cut four!
Is it possible, Mr. Borca, that your team is obsessed with the Clintons?
No, we'd like you to actually do your job.
And, you know, you're not in the news business anymore.
You used to be.
You are in the attacking President Trump business.
And it's sad.
I didn't go on there to say, you and I, Alison, we know the truth.
I'm not appealing to her, because she's a hack!
She's a propagandist!
She couldn't care less!
Bari, pay attention!
The best of all, according to you, people always mention this one.
is a certain scion of the Vanderbilt clan called Anderson Cooper who has a very small audience now and he'll never forgive me for saying this.
Cut five.
He didn't just release his emails because the New York Times had them.
You're like a broken record.
No, because I'm not getting any answers from you.
I'm answering you.
Every time.
No, you're responding.
You're actually not answering because you're not actually being a friend.
Let's let the viewers judge.
You decided that you are now at 13th place in national ratings behind Nick at Night, which is at 11.
Nick at Night.
Cartoons.
So that's how you deal with them.
Sean Spicer is right.
We had him here for an hour.
Don't give these people an ounce of credibility.
If you go on their show, there's only one reason.
Not to reason with them, to destroy them.
To show them up for the hacks, the liars, the un-American America haters that they are.
Because they do it for a living, and it's time to show them for what they are.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Okay, next, a real journalist called John Solomon.
Okay.
That's so great.
Thank you.
When you said, should we start with the ladies, my first thought was, so Anderson Cooper, right?
How stupid is Stelter to ask her?
Who's not letting you do that?
You know that she's going to save this network, you idiot.
But his facial expression was great.
Oh yeah, that little grin.
He's just so full of it.
Okay, at about two-ish minutes, I'll call him.
Skype, right?
Yeah, Skype.
It's not fun to be told you're getting outpaced by reruns of George Lopez. - I forgot him.
That is a name that throws me back to the mid-2000s.
Oh, did you listen to Chris this morning?
Yes.
This buddy he has on, this immigrant from Ecuador or wherever.
I heard that he's played a bunch of clubs.
Yeah, he's running for Congress.
Can we get him on?
He is?
Yeah, he said today.
So Luis Quinonez?
I'll go back and listen to the podcast and figure it out.
Let's get him on.
Let's give him some love.
Oh, and I need the...
Did you hear all the audio he did from various immigrants?
Yes.
Today?
Yeah.
The one Demos Christofi.
The Christian from Iran.
I need that video or audio.
I can ask Chris where he got it from.
What's the easiest?
I'll listen.
He always credits it.
I'll figure it out.
Okay.
Yeah.
I missed the reference.
Oh, goodness.
I was watching this Netflix documentary.
in the chat spelled D-E-A-U when we played the first clip of you on CNN and says a young Seb.
Aye!
Ouch!
This was bloody four years ago.
What do you mean a young Seb?
A young Seb?
I, hold on, I was watching this Netflix documentary.
I can't remember what it was about, but hold on.
Alright.
It was about a mobster.
Yeah.
In the Ukraine.
Yeah.
Hold on, they sent some guy in undercover to set him up.
Let me find this picture.
Mr. Solomon, can you hear us?
Oh, hang on.
We can't hear you.
Uh, John is Skyping.
Skype is up.
Okay.
Um, our Skype is up on our end.
We cannot hear you for some reason when you spoke just there, but sorry about moving.
John, hey.
Oh, hey, thanks again.
One moment.
Yep.
Let me adjust your camera.
We're using Skype One, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's something on their end that they're using it.
OK.
Shot looks good.
Can you hear me now?
Yes!
Excellent.
There we go.
All right.
Thanks for coming on Friday with my guest host.
It was fun.
It was a great interview.
A lot of fun.
We're going to reprise some of that, because I've got to get your take on the whole McCabe thing as well.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Christopher Steele, I assume we'll talk about him, right?
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh, my gosh.
As if McCabe wasn't already making enough money as a CNN contributor.
Right.
One minute.
Pretty amazing.
There's just no consequence to these people who carry... Nothing.
Nothing.
Sussman maybe, you know, but that's a little piece of it.
50 seconds.
Amazing.
Alright, 40 seconds, stand by.
Okay, we're doing merch here.
Uh, yes.
And I'm gonna use Cut14 or I'm gonna tee it up.
Cut14, tee it up.
Oh yeah, fine.
Get the drivers out.
We've teed up Cut14.
I do not play golf.
This is the only thing you do?
The only sport you can smoke cigars.
The only sport, yeah.
It's not good to smoke cigars when you're walking, it ruins the smoke.
Well then stop, stop, you know, the whole nine.
Were you just about to say stop smoking cigars?
No, no, the whole nine.
I wouldn't say something so outlandish.
It's absurd.
Especially not here.
Here.
All right.
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I follow the Daily Mail for some reason.
Well, I'll tell you why, because they break news like the fake news industrial complex never does.
And this is their latest, 23 minutes ago.
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This is not a drill.
Netflix is down.
Thousands of users can't access Netflix.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure that's news.
You know what's news?
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John Solomon.
Solomon, what did I do that?
Did I just do a Biden?
Oh, it's Monday.
You know, I decided about two years ago, John, I write Mondays off.
You know how you have a to-do list?
You know, you have a long to-do list on most days.
I say, Monday, I just want to get through Monday.
Okay.
I hear you.
Okay.
Let's talk about somebody who clearly has A Monday feeling every single day.
I just want to show this footage.
I have to tee it up because it is footage.
It's soundless.
This is from a very, very fancy restaurant in Georgetown.
And it's Joe Biden and his wife walking in.
Play cut 14!
Where's your mask, Jill?
Where's your mask, Jill?
No mask!
John, I didn't see that in the legacy media.
Why is there no breaking story about the mayor's mandate in DC being flouted by the Commander-in-Chief?
Well, from 2019 forward, the media has pretty much put Joe Biden in the witness protection program, right?
They keep protecting him, whether he makes a gaffe, whether his son is egregiously violating ethics standards and making money on behalf of the family from sordid sources.
The media just continues to protect him at all costs, and that's just another great example.
You know, we've seen this just like we saw Fauci at the baseball game without the mask on.
Right.
It just it's do what do what I say, not what I do.
That mentality seems to permeate all of official Washington these days.
Yeah.
Let's talk about official Washington in the terms of former FBI senior agents who were fired with cause for lying to the FBI as FBI senior agents, losing their pension, now reinstated. losing their pension, now reinstated.
John, in a week when we have a court-martial fining, reprimanding a lieutenant colonel in the Marines for basically making a factual statement about his commanders.
The idea that Andy McCabe has just had, through a DOJ deal, his retirement reinstated.
What is happening in America?
Well, listen, the greatest consequences is beyond the anger that it generates in America and the frustration that it drinks.
There is no incentive in the future for an FBI agent, an FBI leader, to do again what happened in Russia.
They have not disincentivized it.
People, we have not made cheating and political trickery outlawed at the FBI.
And every time one of the actors that were in charge of this or failed to give an honest statement about it gets rewarded or gets their pension reinstated, you're basically sanctioning that behavior.
I am deeply worried that the FBI will always now have the temptation to play politics with investigations, And that is very bad for the future of America.
I wrote in my book that this was the crossroads that we had to address it.
Forget the specifics of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
The fact that the FBI got politically weaponized and the man who's near the top of that machine now walks away without any consequence.
And if you look at the DOJ's chief officer, the Attorney General, unleashing the FBI and various threat agencies against parents, it seems as if it's even worse than it ever was before.
The IRS monitoring your $600 transactions.
I mean, Big Brother and the weaponizing of a big government against its populace, big government socialism, is really taking effect.
I think that's what Jon Stewart was hinting at this weekend when he was on CNN.
He said the media was turning a blind eye to other places where fascism was occurring.
If a liberal sees that, I'm pretty sure the rest of America already sees it.
You've got to check out his book right now, Fallout, Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties.
Another story, you see the media from your perch as the creator, as the editor-in-chief of justthenews.com.
Somebody who is, what, an advisor, a number two to the sergeant-at-arms in Congress, has been arrested on 10 counts of child pornography.
Do we expect big in-depth reports on 60 Minutes on this story as well?
Probably not.
But it is a terrible case.
Anytime children are put at danger in any fashion, we should be concerned.
And when it's such a high-ranking official in the halls of Congress, walking by Senators and House members every day, it's even more deeply disturbing.
But it'll be a footnote for most people.
I don't think we'll see a massive investigation.
We'll see that it'll pass on.
Now, keep in mind, this is the same Sergeant at Arms Office That seemed to be asleep at the switch on January 5th before the January 6th riots.
So that office has had a lot of focus.
The Sergeant-at-Arms handles all the administrative stuff in the Congress.
I think this is an office that needs a lot more scrutiny.
Yeah, something else that requires a lot more scrutiny is of course the the Hunter Biden art deals.
First we were told that nobody would know who was bidding half a million dollars for one of these Finger-painted, blow-painting absurdities.
Now we see photographs of the president's son hanging out with people who are buying his pictures.
Again, if this were a normal media environment, wouldn't there be calls for investigations of at least the appearance of a potential pay-to-play or buying access through quote-unquote art, John?
Yeah, listen, just swap it out.
Let's make it Donald Trump and President Trump is still president.
There would be a firestorm.
There would be breaking news on every TV set for days.
But because it's Hunter Biden, again, they didn't see the conflict.
Even when the State Department officials testified at impeachment, That we thought that Hunter Biden created a conflict of interest undercut all of the U.S.
efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine.
The media went and yawned.
They just ignored that.
And that continues to this day.
Listen, Hunter Biden is going to run as many financial scams as he can.
He's always in the pursuit of money trading on his family's name.
He said so in his own interview.
I get things because of my last name, right?
The fact that the mainstream media doesn't care about this is not surprising given their last three years of performance.
Yeah, I just think of this theoretical if you're somebody who wants or is close to getting a big juicy contract from the Feds, multi-multi tens of millions of dollars and you just happen to buy one of Hunter Biden's pictures for a cool $500,000.
Is that you just buying out, or is it something far, far more pernicious?
We'll continue to talk about the breaking news.
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Was that staffer, was that a civilian in the Sergeant of Arms office?
Yeah, it was.
My understanding is it was.
It was a criminal hired staffer.
Not a military person.
Oh, and the other story, what did we not hit?
You mentioned the story.
Christopher Steele.
Oh, Steele.
Gotta talk about Steele.
Oh my gosh.
What a lack of journalistic curiosity in that interview.
Incredible.
Yeah, terrible.
Call it cut 15.
Did you see his biting clip?
He just walked up to the microphone.
He wasn't even supposed to speak and there's all this music blasting and Joe had to, like, come tell him to leave.
Where was that?
It was right now.
It was just at the White House.
Show it to him.
That was the music blasting?
It's all this chaos around me.
It's pretty loud.
Let me pot it down a little bit.
Yeah, can you play it?
Yeah.
I tell you what.
I would like to learn it.
There's no reason to pay attention to it.
Oh my god!
That's good, alright.
We're gonna show that with John.
I almost feel bad for him.
Almost.
That's crazy.
It's like a scene from a movie.
I know.
Why is... there we go.
What was that event?
I don't even know.
And that was just now?
I think so.
Yeah, it just happened a little bit ago, I think.
Oh, really?
Really?
It's a hog.
Yeah, I think it was this afternoon about 3 o'clock.
Like an old dog barking at things and sniffing the stuff.
I think it's the president.
Nobody's paying attention to him.
I know.
That's the most telling.
That tells you all you need to know.
They just don't.
They're just kind of letting him... Inside his head.
Alright, come in.
Am I doing something here?
No.
Come in with the one we've played already of him screaming.
Screaming.
And then I'll tee up the one of... That music.
The music.
Because that's hot off the press.
It's God bless America, too.
Yeah, I know.
Inside his head is Jill Lietzler from the podium.
Hello, darkness, my old friend.
No one's paying attention to me.
Where do you think the Schiff thing is going to go?
Schiff and Bannon.
Do you think that's going to go anywhere, John?
Oh, yeah.
They're going to get mileage out of it because it takes the air out of the media for covering Afghanistan or the economy, right?
Right.
But at the end of the day, what were they going to do to him?
Hold him in contempt?
Yeah, I think they will.
The same Justice Department that wouldn't do it for Eric Holder now will do it for Ben.
I think it's high, yeah.
I think the chances are very high.
And you had the President meddling.
The Justice Department slapped down the President this weekend, saying it was, you know, that they'll make up their minds separate of the President's comments, because he was advocating for it.
One minute.
Good relief here.
So coming in with that cut, right?
Yeah, cut 12 and then you'll see up the music.
Awesome.
Fresh cut.
50 seconds. 40 seconds. 40 seconds.
40 seconds.
With more journalism in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network, Sebastian Gorka.
We have fewer democracies in the world today than we did 15 years ago.
Fewer!
not more, fewer, cannot be sustained.
It's just weird.
It's just strange.
What politician on left or right would actually say, fewer democracies?
Why is he angry that there are fewer any type of political system out there when his 10 months have created a shambles in this country?
That was him being creepily angry.
And just a few moments ago, We get the obverse.
It's like bipolarity in this man.
He stands up to the podium at the White House and nobody's paying attention to him.
Placard.
I tell you what.
I would like to learn it.
Steve, I thought you were going to get it.
And Jill has to pull him away.
Okay, we've got to send that to John.
Jeff, will you send those two videos side by side and just say, is this guy bipolar?
We've got to post those.
Okay, let's get back to real journalism with John Solomon, the founder, the editor-in-chief at justthenews.com.
John, Christopher Steele, puff piece interview with Stephanopoulos.
Democrat official.
We'll talk about that interview in a second.
But first things first, your take, because you've written a book on this, you've covered this for years.
Who is Christopher Steele?
Is he really a serious individual or is he play-acting at being a serious individual?
Well listen, up until 2009 he worked for MI6 and I assume he had a skill set that warranted him being there.
But from 2009 forward, by all the reporting I've done, he's a guy looking to trade on his intelligence connections to make money.
This corporate intelligence world that the New York Times reporter Barry Meyer wrote about a year ago in a book, a very good book by the way, one worth looking at.
These are guys that are looking to sell information and they don't really care if it's true or not, they care if they can make a buck on it.
And I remember early on as I was doing research on him, I came across a document that he prepared, not for the FBI or for the Clinton campaign, But for a Russian oligarch's family, assuring the Russian oligarch that Vladimir Putin was going to be stepping down in 2016.
I don't think that prediction worked out too well for Christopher Steele.
He just, he traded in rumor.
And his own testimony in the British court case where he gets sued and loses a judgment over his dossier, he acknowledges that he very, you know, he would put things in, he would not do very much research.
Well, not only that, in that court case, didn't he admit that he had personal animus and hatred for President Trump?
He did, as he did to the FBI in 2017, and as he told Bruce Ohr, and as he told Kathleen Kavalach.
I mean, he is a partisan guy trying to make a buck on this intelligence, and I guess truth didn't matter to him.
Verifying things didn't matter to him, and I think that's how the Steele dossier becomes such a disaster.
And there's nothing that Christopher Steele said last night that addressed any of the facts.
Let's just take one famous moment that one of my FOIAs turned up that later became a big issue.
He goes to the State Department.
Now, he shouldn't have gone there in the fall of 16, because he was already working for the FBI.
He breaks protocol.
He goes to the State Department.
He meets with a woman named Kathleen Kavalech, and he tells her a story that he doesn't put in the dossier.
Hey, the Russians are running a scam to hijack the election, and they're making the payments through the Russian consulate in Miami.
She's a State Department official.
Takes her about 30 seconds to realize that that's full of baloney.
You know why?
There is no Russian consulate in Miami.
He doesn't even know that, and he's telling this to the top of the State Department.
This guy was reckless in his pursuit of truth.
He didn't do due diligence, as the British judge ultimately concluded in that case.
And the idea that he gets that half hour, hour of television on ABC News and Hulu is a shame for America, because he wasn't confronted with any of the facts that would Help the reader understand what a bunch of malarkey that was on the hearing last night.
He just simply wasn't challenged on all the things we now know are problematic.
Yeah, but it's not over.
We have that other arch nemesis of the truth, Adam Schiff, threatening on MSNBC that Steve Bannon will pay!
Where is this all going to end?
How serious are these pronouncements?
Or is this all a distraction ploy?
Well, these are all designed to be weapons of mass distraction, right?
If the Justice Department wanted to enforce contempt, they had a really good chance to do it back in 2012 against Eric Holder.
They whiffed back then.
I wouldn't be surprised if this Democratic weaponized Merrick Garland Justice Department does go after Bannon and pursue contempt.
But all of this is to distract from the fact that we have a supply chain problem.
Gas prices are going through the roof and Afghanistan is still reverberating.
The failure is there.
The president has a giant mess.
And by the way, he can't even get his own policies through a Democratic-controlled Congress.
These are all sideshows to keep his base from recognizing how many failures he's endured in his first nine months in office. - That's a fascinating, We've got to remember this.
We are now weeks, weeks, weeks into this, Farago.
They control the Senate.
They control the House.
They control the White House.
And they can't even get this bill through.
They have to have a distraction.
It's the latest one.
In the meantime, you've got to get the truth from this man at justthenews.com.
Jay Solomon reports on Twitter and the book.
You've got to get it.
It's called Fallout.
Nuclear bribes, Russian spies, and the Washington lies that enriched the Clinton and Biden dynasties.
Thank you, John Solomon.
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Did you see the guy that keep trotting out on Fox from Chicago from the police union?
Not Ted Williams.
No, John Catanara or something.
Yeah, yeah, that's who I asked.
That's who you asked, okay.
Is he good on TV?
He's decent, yeah.
Do you want to do a panel with that?
Because we could get Villanueva on, because he's not going to enforce them.
Yeah, but I imagine he's got a pretty big ego, so you'd have to clear it with Villanueva.
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Title for Solomon?
Um... We did... We did... Steel, and what did we do in the first half?
McCabe.
McCabe, okay.
I think that'd be the spiciest one.
The Swamp McCabe, colon.
The swamp protects its owner.
The swamp protects its owner.
And the one-on-one we did today?
Um... Hang on a second.
Yeah?
Can you get Casio to post-cut eight and call it Fauci's letting you celebrate the holidays?
Thank you.
Jeff?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
What is it?
Cut.
Get John to post-cut eight.
Yeah.
Fauci's giving you permission to celebrate Thanksgiving.
And then, um, Cut 11.
Oh no, the cut 12.
Biden's screaming.
The creepiest Biden so far.
You went in addition to the one of them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, what did you say?
You said the one on one?
Yes.
Eyewitness racism against white people or something like that.
30 seconds.
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Alright, 20 seconds.
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Are we coming in with anything here?
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Waiting very patiently in San Diego.
And by the way, I've got to say thank you to my hosts.
I was traveling at the weekend for Salem.
Thank you to Chris de Gaulle for hosting the show.
I heard he did an excellent job.
Thank you, Chris.
We expect nothing less from you.
And thank you to my hosts in Sacramento, Mark Durkin at 1380 a.m., and in San Francisco, Mike Shields at 860 a.m.
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Okay, let's go to your calls waiting patiently in San Diego.
Douglas, welcome to America First.
Hello.
I have a comment to make about the Virginia governor's race, and then if time permits, I have a very quick question.
Yeah, we've got time.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Regarding, I think, something that will very much help Youngkin in the race.
Loudoun County is, because of its proximity to DC, is absolutely filled with swamp creatures.
Yes.
And... How do you know that sitting in San Diego, Douglas?
Douglas, how do you know that sitting in San Diego?
Well, I've traveled all over the country.
Okay.
And my wife lived in DC for a while.
Carry on.
Anyway, my comment is that The authorities in Loudoun County have so mishandled the two rape cases where the allegedly transgender boy went into the girl's bathroom, dot, dot, dot.
Yeah.
They have so grossly mishandled that, and that's become pretty public now.
And I really think some Loudoun County swamp preachers and so forth, democrats, might even think about voting for Youngkin.
Being sick and tired of the transgender crap that they won't even talk about, though two girls got raped, I think.
I think that may actually help Jankin in the race.
I think you're right.
I think you're right.
And look, definitely something worked for him.
He was four points down a week ago.
He came on my show, latest poll has Jankin up one percent.
So, you know, if he wants to win, I think these are the issues that could get him over the required threshold with those undecided voters.
You had a comment as well, Douglas?
Yeah, just a quick question.
I'm a blind guy and the part of my computer that does the talking and the braille is broken right now.
Is there any way I can Order something from your Gorka store by phone.
You can order it right now for free with Jeff.
And I need your address anyway because I'm going to send you one of my books on CD, on audio.
OK, Douglas?
Excellent.
Thank you.
All right.
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Okay, maybe whatever he wants.
Maybe a hoodie, but you know, that's John.
Let's go to Peter, who's been waiting a long time in Oregon.
Thank you for your patience, Peter.
Welcome to America First.
Yes, I'm hoping you can explain President Trump's statement last week about Republicans would not or should not vote.
I don't understand.
Well, it's very clear.
He said Republicans will be un-incentivized, dis-incentivized to vote if they believe that the election fraud mechanisms put in place by the Democrats haven't been stymied by the GOP.
It's very simple, Peter.
Don't you agree?
Well, I agree, but, you know, it sounds like it could be a replay of Georgia where A lot of folks, Republicans are.
I'm just not going to vote.
And we need to take back Congress.
That's all important to me.
No, absolutely.
But the point he's making is a positive one.
It's to encourage everybody, not just the The fighters that are doing it right now, like Rudy Giuliani, like Jenna Ellis, like Bernie Kerik, like our buddy the Baron Boris Epstein.
Not just this small cadre of people investigating the events of last November and the odd lawyer here and there and our good friend Jenna Ellis, the chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance.
The president is sending a message, my friend, To the Republican Party, to people who have dropped the ball last year, like Mitt Romney's niece, Rona McDaniel.
He's saying you're going to lose if you don't do your jobs right now.
If the state houses in the battleground states don't actually stand by their constitutional duty To guarantee the fair and transparent elections, as is required in some cases, even by their own constitutions, for example, in the state of Pennsylvania, then what will happen, Peter?
People will not be encouraged.
They will feel that there's no point.
So it's a positive message that, guys, now's the time to fix it.
You've got just over a year, because if you don't, There will be certain consequences drawn by Republican voters, and we cannot afford that.
And that's why you see all these people, Donny Deutch, Terry McAuliffe, very, very worried.
Thank you for your call.
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Yeah, I'm also really glad that Trump put out that statement, because I think that puts to bed once for all this argument.
We've heard both sides on this show.
The people say, oh, it's just being sore losers if we dwell on 2020.
We need to just move on and focus on the future.
I'm like, no.
If you move on from 2020, you ignore why we lost in the first place.
At least, that's my opinion.
Where did he say that?
Trump?
I think that was an official statement.
I think it was.
No, I think it was.
Or was it the rally?
No.
Didn't he speak somehow at one of the retreats or something?
Oh, could have been there.
Can you look it up?
Did I put something on your desk?
Yes.
What did I put there?
You put three things.
What did I put?
The reeds is from Midas, the reed from MyPillow, and the local station.
But I didn't do the MyPillow.
Did you not?
I don't think I did.
Eric, could you grab that from John?
Oh, the print-off?
Yeah, from John.
And the last thing... The last thing I recorded...
What was the last thing I recorded?
Eric gave you something as well.
Oh, no, no.
Thank you.
The last thing at the end is with something called Freedom Square.
Okay.
I need that as one file today.
Thanks.
It was, I think like the shortest statement his office has ever put out.
It was literally just one, two sentences.
Liz Harrington tweeted it.
Okay.
30 seconds.
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Like you said, it is finally getting to the hoodie weather again.
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He's still doing it, that short little fascist!
Fauci, cut nine!
The FDA will be looking at the data from Pfizer.
I believe it's October the 26th.
They'll make a regulatory determination and then likely the next week, which would probably be the first couple of days in November, then the CDC will do what they do.
They'll have their advisory committee and immunization practices look at the data and make a recommendation.
Why?
What are you doing?
Pfizer, FDA, Fauci, vaccines for five.
It's science denial!
0.05 mortality rate for children from COVID.
What sane parent would allow their children to be vaccinated?
Based upon that statistic, which, by the way, is math.
It's called science, Fauci.
Most disturbing of all.
Vaccinating healthy children and putting masks on their faces.
Who does that?
The creep does that.
Somebody diabolical does that.
Scotty O'Call's Wayne in North Carolina.
Welcome to America First, Wayne.
Dr. Gorka, I want to call and tell you how much I appreciated that signed copy of The War for America's Soul You sent me about two months ago.
It took me almost a month to read it.
And I used a closed-circuit TV, a Maryland closed-circuit TV, but I've read every bit of it.
I love the two interviews with Victor Davis Hanson.
He's one of my favorites.
And also Lord Black.
And the president was absolutely great.
And I think what you told that little snippet of a girl at the graduation was appropriate, brother.
Yeah, the book opens, for those who haven't read it, with the story of what happened at my daughter's college graduation that was quite horrific, but it tells you the trouble this nation is in.
Explain to me, Wayne, so how did you read the book?
What was the technology used?
I use a closed circuit TV, a CCTV.
It's called a Maryland.
M-E-R-L-I-N.
And what does it do?
How does it let you enjoy a book if you're blind?
Oh, well, I usually read books on CD, you know.
I'll get a CD book and read it.
Right.
Just listen to it, you know.
But this book, I put it under that thing.
I have to move it around a lot, so I couldn't read it real fast.
You mean, what is it, like it magnifies it?
Yes, it is.
It magnifies it.
See, my vision in both eyes is 2800.
So whatever you see at 20 yards, I could probably, you know, at 800 yards, I could probably see it if you moved it up to 20.
Okay.
I have to increase the size to about Oh my gosh.
Wayne, we're up against the clock.
Very kind of you to tell me you enjoyed the book.
It's The War for America Sold.
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Back with Mr. China Expertise, David Goldman.
The End
The End The
End China is a rising power.
China has been a rising power since Deng Xiaoping in 1979, and they are going to develop themselves and are developing themselves into a great power.
That is not to say, however, that they are an enemy.
They're not an enemy.
They're just a great power.
That's according to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs when he was speaking in his prior capacity as Chief of Staff of the Army at the NATO Summit.
Maybe that explains a lot about Mark Milley.
We'll discuss the realities of what China thinks they are to us.
And how they're eating our lunch with the man that we always rely upon to tell us about the geostrategic reality in Asia and in Beijing.
He's the author of a fabulous work you must check out right now.
It's You Will Be Assimilated, China's Plan to Sinoform the World.
David Goldman, welcome to One on One.
Seb Gorka, it is an honor and privilege to spend time with you, sir.
Thanks for the invitation.
I just realized, I'm looking at the cover of your book, that the Chinese dragon has a pair of iPhone AirPods in.
That's a very nice little touch there.
I missed in the past.
David, we'll talk about Millie.
We'll talk about the truth of China, Beijing, Xi Jinping, and everything else.
But first, I have to ask you.
The imagery of these super cargo ships off the port of LA.
The President of the United States saying, oh, oh, don't worry about it.
And then Jen Psaki saying, oh, that's a high class issue.
People having their Christmas presents.
Oh, that's, you know, the plebs don't worry about that.
Let me ask you, let's think like the Chinese Communist Party for a moment.
What does China think of the fact that America can't unload its cargo ships?
The Chinese have contempt for us.
They think they can take us.
We just published in Asia Times an excerpt from a book by a Chinese economist, used to be the chief economist of the World Bank, Chicago University PhD, who says, look at history, look at the United States versus England at the end of the 19th century.
The English were lazy, complacent, and the United States, coming from behind, Took them out and ate their lunch.
That's exactly what we're going to do to the United States now.
We've got the people.
We've got the supply chains.
We've got the technology.
We've got the will to do it.
America's lazy and feckless, and they're ripe for the picking.
Can I share with your personal anecdote?
This just came to me literally right now as you're talking about them eating our lunch.
We had some wonderful supporters of the show, callers, listeners, who gave a very large donation to one of our charities last year.
So we invited them here to have lunch with me.
They came into the studio last week.
And I didn't know anything about them except they were great supporters.
They just returned from four years in China.
Where they were running an international school there.
It's a bit like, you know, the Soviet army.
An international school has to have a Chinese headmaster and a Western headmaster.
This lady was the Western principal and her husband was one of the teachers.
And she told me this story.
Her students were just absolutely, to use the vernacular, crushing it academically.
And they were Traveling to Oxford and Cambridge, being given scholarships, going to the best schools, all of them getting the best grades in the STEM subjects.
None of them started the humanities.
It was all biology, mathematics, engineering and so forth.
And they're just dominating the global academic environment.
Isn't that indicative?
Isn't that part and parcel of this worldview that the current regime has and how the people beneath the regime are gobbling up global assets?
11 million Chinese kids take the college entrance exam each year.
That's a gaokao.
50% of them are going to get university places.
In other words, the Chinese government sets the threshold for failure at 50% because they know That's going to give the maximum motivation to their kids.
And they work their hearts out for years, only half of them will pass.
That is a brutal and ruthless meritocracy.
The devil takes the hindmost.
Here, we can't tolerate failure.
Every kid's got to be above average.
Everyone's equal.
Some are more equal than others, namely people who have a political lobby behind their particular ethnicity or sexual orientation.
And whereas the Chinese tend to major, as you said, in the STEM subjects, take the toughest stuff, only 7% of our kids take engineering.
We graduate 40,000 mechanical engineers a year.
That's why Tim Cook says he can't build an iPhone in the United States.
So the Chinese think the world is going to be theirs.
They're in awe of what the United States used to be.
And they want to be the United States of 1890.
Crushing Britain and eating Britain's lunch.
Now, I don't want to short circuit the discussion, but it seems to me that this kind of attitude could be fueled in part, at least in part, by an arrogance.
Is there a flaw?
Is there a vulnerability there?
If this is a nation that looks at its culture as millennia old, the white men or the colored men of Africa or elsewhere are sub-Asiatic in their terms, is this a vulnerability?
Is there potential hubris to be exploited in the ruling elite of the world's largest communist dictatorship, David?
Sebastian, I think we already are exploiting it.
The Chinese hubris shows itself in their bullying and aggressive and obnoxious foreign policy that makes them enemies all over the world.
They really humiliated themselves with Australia.
Australia said that we ought to look into, have a serious study of the origins of the Wuhan virus and see if the Chinese did some things wrong.
They responded by boycotting Australian coal, among other things.
Now they find themselves in a coal shortage, which is shutting down power all over the country.
It's not a major crisis, but it's a serious problem for them.
And they're buying all the Australian coal they can get.
They've provoked a great deal of the rest of the world to look at the United States as a potential ally against Chinese expansionism.
And that's their arrogance.
They just can't help being themselves.
So absolutely, they may make serious mistakes.
However, We're making more mistakes than they are still.
And talk to us about the recent developments in the region, in the Asiatic region, the Asia-Pacific, not just in Australia, but how significant, put it into historic terms for us, to have 52 incursions of Taiwanese airspace by the Chinese.
What does that presage?
Taiwan has a very large air identification zone that goes a thousand miles from its shores.
In international law terms, their airspace is 12 miles from their shore.
The Chinese are still, say, a few hundred miles away from that.
But the Chinese are saying, very simply, if Taiwan tries to be independent, we'll go and invade and crush it.
And we don't care about the consequences.
If the Taiwanese are willing to stay subordinate and agree to the idea of eventual absorption of the mainland, then as Xi Jinping said, of course we prefer a peaceful unification with Taiwan.
Why would anyone fight for something they can get for free?
So there is a risk of war with China.
I think Stavridis' book with Ackerman, 2034, new bestseller about a war with China, is really worth reading.
And what happens in that book, as Stavridis is a really good sailor and a good strategist, is that we each blow up a few of each other's cities, kill a few tens of millions of people, and then we're back to square one.
So war with China is not a good option.
And again, when Milley says China's not an enemy, as the chief of staff, if he calls them an enemy, it's a way of saying we're at war with you.
So he's got to use that language as a public official.
He's constrained to.
But is he forced to call his communist counterpart after January the 6th and say, don't worry about President Trump.
I'll give you a heads up if he plans something with China.
That's not quite in his remit, is it, David?
Well, if you can throw a Marine lieutenant colonel in the brig for criticizing the feckless and cowardly scuttle out of Afghanistan pulled off by the Biden administration, Milley Probably ought to be in Leavenworth for life on bread and water for treason.
It is.
The first time I've heard it described is that, and I think that is the very apt way to describe what happened in Kabul in Afghanistan.
It was the scuttling of the US presence there by a man who sadly bears the title Commander-in-Chief.
And yes, if a brave Marine can be put in the brig for justly and righteously criticizing the a-strategic approach of his seniors, the generals, the flag officers above him, then Yeah, Mark Milley deserves to be in front of a court-martial.
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David, you mentioned the military, the hubris potentially of the Chinese, of the people's ironically titled Liberation Army.
Is there, let me ask you, we're supposed to have civilian control of the military in democracies.
Is there civilian control of the military in the communist regime, that is China?
Is Xi Jinping, does he have a grip On the military brass, or could there be a hot-headed incident where one of his generals gets a little bit out of control and a cold war gets hot very quickly?
Xi Jinping spent his first years in power firing a lot of generals and putting his people in place.
None of the analysts I know think that a military coup against Xi Jinping or a breakaway military operation Is likely, of course, in that opaque system.
We never really know what's going on, but the military has gotten all the things it likes.
It's gotten a massive development budget for its missile forces, for its air force.
They've improved that considerably.
They've got dozens of diesel electric submarines.
They're building new aircraft carriers.
So if you're a Chinese soldier, you'd probably be pretty pleased with the kind of support that the government is giving you.
A lot more than, say, if you were an American soldier looking at the kind of support the Biden administration isn't giving to our armed forces.
Right, right.
Alright, let's broaden the aperture.
Talk to us about the reality.
You've worked there, you understand this culture better than most.
What is the relationship, what is the power dynamic Between the vast population of Chinese, majority Han, and the Communist Party, is there a tension there that could be exploited by those who don't wish to see a rise in China?
Or is everybody, you know, unless they're Uyghurs, is everybody towing the line because of a Confucian, collectivist mindset?
What is the internal dynamic like in Chinese society?
Well, the Communist Party has 90 million members, which means it's larger than the adult population of most of the industrial countries.
It is a very large organization.
And the Communist Party uses its vast access to information, surveillance and so forth to try to keep the pulse of the population and keep people happy.
I think it's important to remember in China that cannibalism is a living memory.
Thanks to Mao Zedong.
Will you unpack that?
Will you explain that and what happened under the prior regime?
Mao Zedong's great leap forward in the 1950s led to the starvation of anywhere between 30 and 60 million people.
We don't know how many, but it was a horrific period.
Cannibalism was widespread.
So people who grew up in the 50s, who were born 50s, 60s, 70s in China, grew up with dirt floors, outdoor toilets, And, uh, wood-burning stove.
And now, for the most part, they've got indoor plumbing, central heating, and some kind of motor vehicle, at least a motorcycle.
Um, their standard of living has increased tenfold.
And you see that in China's new cities.
You see that in how, you know, shopping and so forth.
These aren't made up numbers.
So, the vast majority of Chinese think this, we're the first Chinese in history to don't have to worry about starving to death.
Let's just live our lives.
If we don't like something happening, we'll squeak a bit and the wheel will get greased.
But most Chinese are simply not political.
You go to Chinese cities, you never see a gun on the streets.
Tiananmen Square, of course, was an exception, but there isn't a big police presence because people know better.
Among younger people, particularly entrepreneurial, creative, scientific people, a lot of people despise the regime.
That's a minority, but it's not going to overthrow the regime.
And I don't believe that any American policy should be premised on the idea that the regime is presently vulnerable to an overthrow. - When they-- So let me ask you that.
When you say that the young, we hear this about Iran and we hear this about other regimes, that the youth hate the regime.
OK, that's one thing.
But what would they prefer to see instead of it?
If it's a nationalist China, if it's another system, hating it isn't enough.
So these aren't people who want representative federal republic, is it?
They don't know what it is unless they've lived in a Western country.
My view has been for years that the most effective way to cripple China is to bring to the United States their most creative, entrepreneurial, scientific and technical minds, get them out of China and get them working for us.
Steve Bannon told me, but wouldn't they all be spies?
And I said, well, some of them would be, but wars aren't won by stealing secrets.
They're won by logistics in depth.
Yeah.
I think that the kind of people who are running policy in China right now at the level below Xi Jinping, a very large portion of them are Western PhDs.
Some of them I knew on Wall Street when they worked for tier one banks.
They're nationalists.
They don't particularly care about Marxism.
The Chinese, the Communist Party is Marxist the same way the Italian mafia is Catholic.
They take it seriously.
But it's practical importance is not always clear.
This is a nationalist regime where the cadre who were doing the day-to-day management of the most part Western educated or if not, they're educated by Western professors and they look at China as a country that's been ravaged by the West, treated badly by the West.
They want to get theirs back.
They want to be the top dogs in charge.
They're ambitious.
They're ruthless and they don't really, they have no compunction about playing dirty.
Is there in that case any...
Natural boundary?
Is there any barrier to the ambitions of China?
Is it lack of natural resources?
Is it water limitations?
Is it a certain aspect of education whereby they're not creative thinkers, they learn in terms of rote learning?
What is the greatest weakness of this regime?
Greatest weakness of the regime is the likelihood that it will alienate the rest of the world and become isolated.
Look at Huawei, for example.
We've spent a lot of time worrying about Huawei.
Huawei is not a Chinese company.
It's an imperial company.
50,000 of its 200,000 employees are foreigners.
Their biggest research center, I believe, is in Russia.
Russia has some very good scientists and engineers.
They do most of the research and development.
I'm not saying that Chinese can't be creative, but the Chinese are hiring the smartest people they can pay off in the West to do their creative work for them.
So China, as an empire, is trying to assimilate the skills and talent of the rest of the world and harness them to the service of the Chinese empire.
Now, they can go too far.
And they can alienate people, but so far they've been extremely effective in doing so.
And although the Chinese educational system tends to produce conformists, it's so big that you do have some independent thinkers who slip through the cracks.
And with 1.4 billion people, you do find in absolute terms a large number.
Yeah, it's the economy of scale, the bigger the population, you will find some who can actually think creatively.
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David, we've been discussing these issues for so very, very long.
We have also alighted on your recommendation numerous times.
You visited us in the White House and made it first then, I think, that we need a new space race.
We need that, you know, that speech at Rice University from a president who just Gets America back into some national program that gets us to a pinnacle of research and development.
I've got to ask you, last week we had the launch into space of a 90-year-old American Captain Kirk.
Bill Shatner made it on a, what was it, five-minute space ride.
That's not exactly what you're talking about, is it, David?
You're talking about something bigger and better.
Yeah, live long and prosper.
But you're talking about something a bit larger than Jeff Bezos's vanity project, are you not?
Seb, you and I have been talking about decoupling at least some parts of the U.S.
economy from China for years.
Yes.
As of last month, U.S.
imports from China are up 30 percent since 2018, when Trump started going after That's because the Biden administration has thrown trillions of dollars at people and given people an incentive to stay out of the workforce.
People have money to spend, but we can't find the workers because of the disincentives created by government programs.
So we've got to buy the goods from China.
China's exports to us are booming.
They are now equal to 27% of our manufacturing GDP.
It's an astonishing number.
We need to rebuild American industry.
We've got a business elite that doesn't care about manufacturing, doesn't care about manufacturing communities or workers.
We need to reverse that.
But how?
I mean, you know that economics is, you know, the dismal science, as one economist, a noted economist said, you know, economics is the science of proving that water runs downhill.
At its base, economics is about incentives.
How do you incentivize that CEO, that shareholder, who can make a product more cheaply whilst undermining the national interests of America, but making the next shareholder meeting look very exciting three months from now?
How do we incentivize Americans to not think with such short-termism?
If we're conservatives, we don't want to see a nationalization of manufacturing, or do we?
Well, many people have pointed out that our tax system is rigged to benefit big tech and hurt manufacturers.
So we need to revise the tax system to change the incentives, because right now we've got disincentives, not incentives.
Secondly, we need to go back to the old DARPA model, where there's a public-private partnership.
Explain that.
Explain the significance of DARPA and what it has done in the past.
Defense Advanced Product Research Agency, It pays for the basic research on frontier areas that corporations would not by themselves do, but lets private capital take the risk of commercialization.
There are some things we just have to downright subsidize.
For example, computer chips.
We've got a chip shortage, killing the auto industry, hurting every part of society, and we're dependent on chips from Asia to fly in American fighter planes, and we can't guarantee their security.
It'll probably cost a hundred billion dollars to build five fabrication plants in the U.S.
that can produce chips under secure condition, guarantee our supply, make sure there aren't any back doors run by Chinese intelligence, and so forth.
So some things, yes, we just take out the wallet and Uncle Sam pays for it.
Some things we do incentives, and we also need to put a gun to the head to big tech and say, you know, there are ways Things we can do, like to break you up if you're not going to act like responsible citizens.
You talk about stakeholders.
Well, the people of the United States are a stakeholder, and we expect you to be responsible.
Yeah, it's about time something is done because, well, it's the reason my former boss was elected first time ever in American history that a non-politician, non-retired general became the Commander-in-Chief.
Why?
because of the forgotten men and women that he said he represented and because he wanted to stop the hemorrhaging of American economy into Asia.
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so much of the economic and the obvious national security aspects of the competition with a nation that clearly sees itself as our enemy.
Will you speak to us, David, of the internal threats of this book written by two senior PLA colonels, Unrestricted Warfare, that I used to teach when I was a DoD civilian?
It's not just about preparing for a shooting war.
It's not just about the control of copper mines in Afghanistan or rare earth minerals in Africa.
It is also about subversion.
It's about political warfare.
How is China executing that mission on U.S.
campuses, in the media and around the world?
Well, very badly.
China's reputation in the United States and in Europe is at an all-time low.
They can't help being themselves.
They're bullies and they're tyrants.
And the more people get to know them, the more they dislike them.
So China's public relations, I think, is the single worst product of the human imagination in all of history.
It's really backfired on them.
I don't see a lot of people on campuses going to a Confucius Institute seminar and saying, gee, I'd love to spend some time in China.
And maybe donate my kidneys if I say the wrong thing about Fearless Leader.
But isn't it working in Hollywood, David?
The fact that you'll have movies like Red Dawn retroactively edited to white out the Chinese invading forces and make them North Korean and certain films have to have edgy content about, oh I don't know, LBGT characters that have to be Again, white it out so that they can be shown in China.
Isn't that a metric of how influential they are, at least in one industry?
Well, because the Chinese movie market is so big, it's one of the biggest markets in the world, Hollywood is particularly vulnerable to them.
And that's sort of the sports franchises, as you know.
So is Nike.
China is now the biggest domestic market in the world, and unlike the United States, unlike the Europeans, the Chinese will use whatever means they have to twist arms and blackmail people into following their lead.
But I think, really, that's backfired on them.
People see this kind of arm twisting, and Americans have a natural revulsion to it.
So I think it's hurt them a lot more than it's helped them.
When you look at the geopolitical landscape globally right now, and you look at what China has done either to Hollywood or to big businesses, how we have Biden last week saying, oh, there's no problem with buying drones from China.
Is there a country that has singled itself out By getting it right, has Israel, has, I don't know, Belgium, has somebody got China right and put in place policies that we should try to be emulating?
Right now, China is expanding its trade and investment with virtually everyone in the world.
China's exports to the United States were up 30%, as I mentioned, Since January 2018 to Germany, they're up 60%.
Wow.
And Germany's exports to China are also up about 60%.
Their exports to Taiwan in that period have doubled.
That's what happens when you've got robust supply chains and you have a COVID-19 pandemic that interrupts production elsewhere.
All of a sudden, there's only one place to go to source a large amount of goods, particularly the consumer electronics, which are so much in demand as a result of the pandemic.
So no one is really isolating themselves from China.
The problem is unless the United States and of course the rest of the West develop supply chains that can compete with China, we're dependent on them.
And that's what drives me crazy, Sebastian.
We can talk about the horrors of the Chinese system and the deficiencies of the Chinese model all we want.
But as long as we're in an orgy of Chinese goods buying, Constrained only by the pileup at American ports.
We're just, you know, it's just rhetoric.
We're not getting anywhere.
In all of this, what role is there or what geopolitical leverage can be made of the Uyghur problem?
Are these just people who are condemned to be put into labor camps and unpersoned by the regime?
Or is there something that the West can do to leverage this, perhaps, potential threat to the communist regime?
Well, there are two things we can do.
Three things we can do.
One is we can do nothing, which is basically what we're doing now.
It's bad Chinese.
Second thing we can do is to try to support armed resistance in the part of the Uyghurs, the Charlie Wilson's war.
That would be effectively an act of war against China and a very dangerous thing to do.
And I'm against it because I don't want to have a war with China because nobody would win it.
And the third thing we can do, is boycott Chinese goods and make them hurt, except we're buying more Chinese goods and not less because we can't produce them at home.
So it all comes down to money talks and BS walks.
If we have the productive power, there are all kinds of things we can do with the Chinese.
We can sit and get up in the morning and say, what are we going to do to make the life of the Chinese Communist Party miserable today and take our pick?
But if we don't have the power, we're just blowing steam.
I do like that thought, though.
I do like that.
There are many things one should ask oneself when one wakes up in the morning, in addition to how you're going to serve your Lord and Creator, how we're going to get America back to being that shining city on the hill.
But I think I should add that last one.
I think how can we be an embuggerance to the largest communist dictatorship in the world is a great question to ask yourself every morning.
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I haven't even brought it up.
We have to, we have to, have to discuss it.
Wuhan, is this just something that we have to say, oh well, It may have come from the lab, may not have come from the lab.
Who knows if it was genetically engineered?
We're never going to get to the bottom of it.
Or is there some afterlife?
What is the smart thing for America and our allies to do with regards to this deadly, deadly disease that has killed millions?
I'm a little out of my depth on this one.
It would be great to try to pin that story down and nail it.
But that presumes defections from Chinese scientists or... Which could happen.
Infiltrating.
Yes.
But you're talking about covert operations here, which are just not my province exactly.
How we do it at the moment, we're kind of at sea.
We can yell and scream all we want and the Chinese will say, sticks and stones.
So is there nothing that can be done via the trade relations?
Is there a smart negotiation?
Or are we just simply going to have to wait and see?
Look, we have 5-6% inflation already.
It's probably more like 7-8-9.
And if we're going to cut off... China is 27% of our consumption of manufactured goods right now.
Our dependence on China is shameful.
but enormous.
The problem we have is we can hurt China, but if we hurt ourselves more, is that really the best way to proceed?
We really have to retrench and rebuild the kind of industrial dominance that we used to have.
That way we could, you know, nobody could push us around.
Yeah, it's the logical answer.
I'm going to ask you one last question.
We always like to give our listeners, our viewers, the millions that tune in every day a little bit of homework.
In addition to your book, you will be assimilated, in addition to, of course, your Spengler columns.
And everybody, I've been teaching it for years, I don't care what region of the world you're interested in, you've got to read Sun Tzu's Art of War.
What else?
Name one other thing that Americans who want to understand this threat better should read today.
Well, there are a lot of good books on China.
In fact, Rosh Doshi's new book, The Long War, is pretty good.
He's the Senior Director at National Security Council.
I don't agree with everything in it, but I reviewed it for Claremont Review of Books.
Excellent.
Michael Pillsbury's... The Hundred Year... The Hundred Year War.
Right.
Marathon.
The Hundred Year Dash.
The Hundred Year Marathon.
Yes.
There's a new book coming out by people at Georgetown, sorry, the Center for Strategic and International Studies on China's tech war with the world.
That looks very good.
There's a very large literature.
All right.
Well, we know where to start.
We're going to start with you will be assimilated and the Spengler columns.
But I like the sound of the long wear.
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