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	Tens of thousands of non-white Afghans in Afghanistan who'd worked for us.
	The Terps, the interpreters, the SIVs, the special interest visas.
	And my question is a very simple one.
	Where are the feminists?
	Where are the women in the My Body, My Choice teaser shirts?
	Where are the protesters who clawed, literally, we've got the video, clawed at the bronze door of the Supreme Court as Justice Kavanaugh was being confirmed?
	And where are?
	This takes me back to my first day in the White House, January 21st, 2017, Saturday after the inauguration.
	I went in because, hey, I wasn't going to wait around.
	And after I did my time in the building, got my badge, picked my office, left, The mayor of Washington DC, for some, well I guess it's obvious reason, had given the pink pussyhat Women's March protesters permission to use all four streets around the White House.
	Yes, to march in such a way that you physically couldn't drive around the White House.
	So I had a fun I had a fun time trying to leave the White House the day after the inauguration, surrounded by all these women who were so adamant about how bad for women, how misogynistic, how racist, how bigoted my new boss, President Trump, was.
	Where are they now?
	Where are those women?
	Where's Madonna?
	Speaking from the podium that day about how she has dreamt so many times of blowing up that building as she pointed to the White House.
	Where is she?
	Where's Susan Sarandon?
	Where's Michael Moore for that?
	He's actually praising Biden for his delightful, wondrous evacuation of Kabul.
	And it's not an evacuation.
	It's a retreat.
	As our good friend Jim Carrafano tweeted yesterday, he'll be with us today.
	When you leave the battlefield after contact with the enemy, an enemy who killed 13 of our warfighters, that's not a withdrawal.
	That's a retreat.
	So what you are witnessing right now is the truth about the Democrat Party.
	And yes, I will say the Democrat Party.
	Because if you voted for Biden, because the the tweets were mean, because you didn't like the way he spoke, this is your culpability.
	You are responsible for the plight of those women and children.
	You are responsible for the deaths of those marines, that corpsman, and that army staff sergeant.
	Because you enabled America being taken over by cowards and a senile old man.
	Just pick a topic.
	I don't care what the topic is.
	What the sector of political or economic activity is.
	National security, foreign policy, the economy, education, freedom of speech.
	Every single one of them is disastrous.
	We'll be talking to Mark Morgan.
	Former Commissioner for CBP about what's happening on the southern border.
	Right now, right now, as we speak, your money is being spent to shore up the border regime between Afghanistan and the neighbouring Tajikistan.
	Why?
	Because Tajikistan doesn't want millions of refugees flooding into their country as the Taliban takes over.
	American money is being used to build a border regime between Afghanistan and Tajikistan as our southern borders regime has been literally dismantled.
	6,000 illegal aliens every single day.
	By the end of the first calendar year, 2 million illegal aliens crossing our border.
	And who knows how much fentanyl, illegal drugs, weapons, serial rapists, murderers, another report yesterday, That's on you, if you're a Democrat.
	If you thought, oh, he's just a nice old man.
	What damage can he do?
	After 47 years of being a swamp creature, after what he did to Clarence Thomas to effect, as chairman of that committee, a quote, high-tech lynching of a black judge who dared, dared not to stay on the political plantation, But actually wanted to be a Supreme Court Associate Justice as a black conservative?
	That's Joe Biden.
	That's who he is.
	A man who gets elected by you after he says things like this.
	After he says, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
	After he says things like, poor kids are just as talented as white kids.
	That's a bigot!
	He always was a bigot.
	And you empowered him.
	And now he's left our Afghan partners to be... Well, who knows what'll happen to them.
	Enslaved, persecuted, or killed.
	The reports are coming in right now.
	Things that we don't even want to talk about on live radio.
	But maybe we should.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First and the Salem Radio Network coming to you from the refactor.com studios.
	next, the one and only Mark Morgan.
	Sorry, I didn't have the instant replay up.
	Is that where you're going for there?
	Yeah, I pressed it.
	Does it have to be switched on at your end?
	Yeah.
	It's on now if you use it.
	When does it have to be switched on and off?
	It's usually just kept... Shad kept it on all the time, I guess.
	It was just turned off.
	Okay, want me to go ahead and dial him up now?
	Yeah.
	Okay, calling him on Skype channel one.
	Pop that up, there we go.
	Ringing.
	Mr. Morgan, can you hear us?
	Loud and clear.
	Wonderful.
	And we can hear you and we can see you.
	Mics are live on our Rumble broadcast as always.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, framing looks good.
	The shot looks good.
	I can't hear him.
	Try now.
	Mark?
	Yep, I can hear you.
	Oh, wow.
	That's good.
	That's solid.
	All right.
	Can you match our sizes?
	Yes.
	I got a new mic.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's very professional.
	All right, so we've got to talk vetting, vetting, vetting.
	What else?
	You know, there's the recent story that HHS has lost track of 37% of the migrant children that we've allowed in the United States.
	Okay.
	That's probably around 45,000 minors now, but they have no idea where they're at in the United States.
	Unbelievable.
	Yep.
	Because, again, just like Afghanistan, they sacrificed substance for speed.
	Their goal is just to release them as fast as possible, and they gave up on the vetting, just like we're seeing in Afghanistan.
	You don't have time to pull that footage that Fox was playing of the Afghans arriving at Dallas?
	Or maybe for the second segment?
	I don't have... No, don't worry about it.
	Yeah.
	My phone is blowing up.
	- Yep, hang on. - All right, 90 seconds of it.
	Okay.
	Good.
	OK.
	Standing by.
	OK.
	All right.
	One minute.
	Want to come in with anything?
	No, I'm going to do American Financing.
	American Financing.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Yep.
	There it is.
	Okay.
	All right, 30 seconds. Standing by.
	All right.
	Please.
	Oh, there he is.
	There's my guy.
	Good job.
	How's your new show going?
	Good?
	Very well, thank you.
	I heard good.
	Thank you.
	The President: Please, oh, there he is.
	Here's my guy.
	Good job.
	How's your new show going?
	Good?
	The President: Very well, thank you.
	The President: I heard good.
	The President: Thank you.
	Yes, indeed.
	The President: Thank you, indeed, Mr. President.
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	The footage is shocking.
	Refugees not only stuck at the Kabul Airport, but landing here in America, being whisked away from Dulles Airport to who knows where.
	Let's talk to somebody who has something to say about the issue.
	Former Commissioner for the Customs and Border Protection Agency, now with the Heritage Foundation, Mark Morgan.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thanks, Sebastian, for having me.
	I've got to go straight for the jugular.
	We are hearing again and again and again from Alejandro Mayorkas, the DHS, from the State Department today, from Anthony Blinken, that they have a rigorous vetting process for the over 120,000 Afghans who have been flown out on our military flights.
	How do you do vetting, for example, for a person who has no documents and whose bio data isn't on any system we own?
	Can you explain the wizardry of this administration to me?
	Now, Jackie, Sebastian, look, you just what you just talked about is common sense.
	Look, a couple of things we know that are factual based, not spin and misdirection come from this administration.
	First of all, the military commanders, their mission was very clear from the White House.
	It was all about fast, fast, fast.
	Get people on planes as fast as possible.
	Look, I've been serving this country for 35 years.
	I've been involved in operations where fast took precedent over other things.
	And when that happens, things fall through the cracks.
	There is no doubt that people were getting on that plane that we knew virtually nothing about, Sebastian.
	And look, the facts are detailed in this.
	We've already heard about people got on the planes that later they found derogatory information.
	that they were connected to the Taliban.
	They were connected to ISIS.
	Here in Dulles, we had an Afghan refugee that landed in Dulles in America that was actually deported previously for being convicted of rape.
	It goes on and on.
	And real quick, here's another spin and misdirection that they're giving the American people right now.
	The majority of individuals from Afghanistan coming here are not those SIV applicants or holders, the ones that risk their lives to help American citizens.
	They're general refugees.
	We know even less about them.
	And the general application process for SIV, it takes months, if not over a year, to do proper vetting.
	It's an extensive, multi-step procedure, and now they're able to do that in days?
	No, I don't believe it.
	It's just not true.
	And what happens if somebody, and this is just a hypothetical, but if the majority of these people are in fact not SIVs, not former interpreters, just somebody who said, I'm going to America!
	I'm going to get on that plane!
	And we find out that they don't meet the requirements for asylum, for refugee status.
	We can't give them back to the Taliban in Afghanistan.
	So what happens then, Mark?
	Exactly, Sebastian.
	I mean, I couldn't have said it better myself.
	And that's the common sense approach.
	Look, I know you and I have talked about this.
	We're the most compassionate country on the face of the planet.
	That's what makes America great.
	I also believe we have a moral obligation to take care of those that actually took care of our uniformed personnel in Afghanistan.
	But that doesn't mean that we should be devoid of all common sense.
	Look, we also have a responsibility to make sure we have an extensive, robust vetting process.
	So here's a here's a thought for them.
	Slow down.
	Slow down.
	The Afghans now that have left and they're in third countries like Ramstein, Germany, they're out of immediate harm's way.
	Slow down.
	Make sure the vetting process is done there before one Afghan steps foot in American soil.
	How about that for an option?
	I love it, but let me run a hypothetical past you.
	Tell me if this is Looney Tunes or whether this is, in fact, highly likely.
	124,000 people, I think, that we've flown out of Kabul.
	Thousands are already here in the United States.
	Others are at the so-called lily pad locations in our partner countries on our bases or their bases.
	What if there is a guy, or ten guys, or a hundred guys, who were Taliban fighters for some militia warlord in a specific province?
	We never caught them during operations in Afghanistan, therefore their name, their biometric data, their fingerprint don't exist in any database that we have access to.
	But they thought, for whatever reason, whoa, there are planes Flying to America right now from Kabul.
	I'm going to get me onto one of those planes.
	That individual is welcomed by our forces because that's what they've been told to do.
	They're packed onto one of those C-17s, flown to Dallas Airport, and they're given that status of parolee or what have you, given their temporary ID card.
	And as the state trooper I heard from was instructed by Virginia, If they leave the concourse and the group that is escorting them, you are not to stop them, you are not to impede them, they are allowed to go wherever they want by themselves.
	We have just allowed into America a member of the Taliban.
	Is that hypothetical?
	Impossible?
	Is it crazy?
	No, Sebastian, it's not.
	And I hope your listeners are paying close attention.
	Everything you just said is absolutely possible.
	And let me use Secretary Mayorkas' own intelligence group that said just last week that they cannot rule out the possibility that you just described.
	Those are their words, not mine.
	Think about that.
	And again, in Afghanistan, there is no way that they were able to properly vet and prove.
	Look, the Taliban, we don't think they could exploit just as you described.
	Think about it.
	They were able to pull off the worst terrorist attack against American soldiers in over a decade.
	You don't think they could have got some false documents real quick and boarded one of the C-17s, leaving every 45 minutes in a chaotic rush to get Afghans out of Afghanistan?
	Of course that's possible.
	I have to ask you, we've only got one minute left in this segment with you, but as a former Marine, I need to ask you your reaction to what happened, the attack on your fellow Marines?
	Look, that's why I'm wearing a United States Marine Corps pin right now, Sebastian.
	I'm going to continue wearing that.
	Look, I hate to second-guess the military leaders on the battlefield, so I'm not going to do that.
	But what I am going to do is second-guess the President of the United States and this administration who gave them the orders to carry out what was really a chaotic, horribly done evacuation.
	I hold this administration responsible.
	We'll be back with our good friend, former CBP Commissioner Mark Morgan, now Heritage Foundation Fellow.
	Don't forget we have a brand new podcast, exclusive one-on-one interviews you won't find anywhere else, including with the President of the United States who was with us just a week ago.
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	That's The new America First podcast one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka.
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	All right, so mics are still hot.
	Um...
	So let's talk about that story about the missing miners.
	Let's talk about what's happening with the regime.
	And let's talk about another hypothetical about how ISIS, for example, could exploit the open southern border.
	Let's do that.
	Absolutely.
	You're spot on, Sebastian.
	Everything you just said, it's a real hypothetical.
	it is oh Eric when you get a second it Sebastian, do you know about FAIR's Feet to the Fire event they put on in September?
	Oh yeah, I've been there every year except last year.
	Are you going to go this year?
	When is it?
	It's in September usually, isn't it?
	Yeah, end of September.
	They haven't approached me yet, but if they do, I can do it.
	I mean, it just depends upon the radio show.
	Alright, I'll put you on hold and see if we can get you on the air.
	Please stand by, thanks for calling in.
	Eric.
	Eric First, what's your name?
	Are you gonna be speaking there, doing something there?
	Yeah, so it's two days long.
	I'm gonna be there both days, all day.
	Great.
	They've got about 70, 75 radio shows that are gonna be there.
	Wow.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What is it over Afghanistan?
	Apparently they're trying to make it a lot bigger this year.
	Oh yeah?
	Jen's coming, even.
	Who is?
	Jennifer Horne.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, we got some pretty, I know Stephen Miller's going to be there, Chad Wolf, Ken Cuccinelli, myself, Tom Holman.
	We're even reaching out, yeah, we're reaching out to President Trump to see if he could find the time as well, but you know how that goes.
	Good, if I can help, if you want to give me an invitation, I'll send it to him as well.
	Alright, good point.
	I'm going to put you on hold so we can get you on the air.
	Please stand by, thanks for coming in.
	Thank you, you as well.
	Can you do a white balance, Eric?
	Yeah.
	Give me a second.
	Hang on.
	Yeah, this new mic's working out really well.
	Very well.
	Yeah.
	Hold it up.
	All right.
	Hold it steady.
	And there we go.
	There we go.
	That's better.
	I'm going to go from green skin to actually looking alive.
	You've got some good lighting.
	What have you got, like a ring light?
	Yeah, yep.
	It looks good, works very well.
	I like your brick from Quantico in the back.
	It's very cool.
	Yeah, you know what?
	You're one of the very few that knows what that is.
	How did you get that?
	Did they let you buy those?
	No, so I was assistant director of Quantico.
	Oh, he gets to get one.
	He gets to get one.
	And with every National Academy class, I actually ran the six miles.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So that's the first brick, the first class when I was the assistant director that I ran and they gave me that brick.
	That's very cool.
	Yeah.
	Other Jeff texted me watching the live stream during the break and said, the guest's new mic looks like R2-D2.
	Matzka's watching the show.
	Yeah, he's keeping an eye on the stream.
	You better give us a thumbs up on Rumble, Matzka.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Matzka could've watched it in here, since we're down a person today.
	Yeah, he could've.
	I was thinking, if Shad's still in town, why isn't he here?
	Right?
	I was gonna text him today.
	Are you packing?
	You should be here helping Geoff and Eric out.
	We're down a man.
	Our guy, our new engineer just had, what was it, seven screws put in his ankle today?
	Yeah.
	What happened?
	He slid on baseball and he just had a, what did he call it?
	dislocation and a spiral fracture at the same time.
	I kill Mike.
	All right.
	You're listening to America First with the indispensable immigrant, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Why thank you, Jennifer.
	I love that.
	Legal immigrant.
	We'll have to add that in.
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	We are back with Mark Morgan of the Trump administration, now the Heritage Foundation, and with Affair.
	Mark, let's focus.
	We've done one hypothetical with regards to the refugees in Afghanistan, how it could have been exploited by jihadists.
	Let's talk about the obvious thing.
	If I'm a bad guy, if I'm in a red team, what the bad guy's thinking and what they're preparing to do.
	With a border regime that has literally been dismantled since you were running it and since President Trump started the wall.
	If I'm a bad guy and I didn't get onto one of our C-17s, I'm just going to get myself to Mexico and walk across the border and do terrorism here in America.
	Is that out of the question?
	No, it's not, Sebastian.
	And again, if you look at the intelligence community, those that are being honest will tell you the same thing.
	Here's what we do know.
	All the rhetoric from this administration, though, saying that one terrorist organization, how they're fighting with one terrorist organization, that's all bunk.
	Because the reality is all the terrorist organizations now fully operating freely in Afghanistan have all one thing in common.
	Their hatred for America and their unwavering commitment to do us harm remains.
	And so they're going to continue, as they have been, looking for every single vulnerability to do that mission, to do us harm.
	And right now, one of the biggest vulnerabilities that this country has is our southern border.
	You know, let me give you just real quick, just a couple of stats, because, you know, 40, 50 percent of border resources have been pulled off the line to process the 212,000 we're getting every single month.
	Large areas of the borders are wide open, unsecured.
	This fiscal year alone, we're estimating, I'm being conservative, 340,000 gotaways.
	Think about that, Sebastian.
	340,000 gotaways, illegal aliens that made it past our frontline defense and made their way into this country, into every town, city, and state.
	Among them are criminals, gang members, etc.
	But also keep in mind, Well, part of that is we've apprehended a hundred and four apprehended individuals from 140 different countries.
	And this year, 14 apprehensions of folks being on the FBI's terror screening database.
	Think about that.
	That impacts every aspect of our national health, national safety and our national security.
	It should be terrifying.
	But Mark, shouldn't we call all of these people gotaways?
	Because if the CBP, if the agencies that catch people who don't have a criminal record that we know of, give them money, an ID card, and a plane ticket to Boston, then they're all gotaways, aren't they?
	Yeah, Sebastian, you're right.
	That's a good point.
	You know, right now you're operating somebody, they have no documents whatsoever, border patrol.
	Come on, there's no way that they can legitimately verify who all these people are.
	And within a few hours, they're releasing them in the communities, never to be heard from again.
	Sebastian, you're absolutely right.
	We don't know enough about these individuals that were intentionally and willfully allowed in our country.
	And then we have the unaccompanied minor issue as well, and the vetting and lack of vetting.
	Explain the figures for children that you mentioned in the break.
	Yeah, Sebastian, you and I are talking right now, it just came out, it just broke, that under this administration, specifically HHS, Health and Human Services, who are responsible for the resettlement of unaccompanied minors, they can't account for almost 40% of the unaccompanied minors that have been released in the United States.
	That equates to about 45,000 unaccompanied minors.
	And I'm kind of smirking a little bit because this is just another example of the lies and hypocrisy coming out of this administration.
	But what is not funny is what's happened to those 45,000.
	We know that this administration, just like in Afghanistan, they have traded speed for substance in the vetting process.
	The vetting process is almost non-existent now.
	They're getting kids to sponsors as fast as they can.
	They're not doing proper vetting.
	And now the results are they don't know where 40 percent of them are.
	But we do know there's a good percentage of them that end up being trafficked.
	And that is what is the most inhumane thing this country is doing.
	This is the point that you've got Alejandro Mayorkas at the head of DHS saying the system is working.
	It's working so well that 45,000 unaccompanied minors cannot be traced by this administration.
	It is a disgrace and it is inhuman.
	Heritage Foundation's Mark Morgan.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	God bless you.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Your calls on 833-33 Gorka.
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	It's on.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Call board is full.
	Yes, it is.
	Can you give me four?
	Mic's on or off?
	On.
	Okay, mic's are on.
	Line full.
	Sorry.
	Hey, who's this?
	Sebastian, this is Steve.
	How are you doing?
	Good, good.
	2014, 2015 I deployed to the continent of Africa and a guy named Robichon in Washington DC set up my classes.
	And you were the professor in one of my classes that I had when I deployed.
	What was that, CJTF HOA or who were you with?
	I was with HOA, exactly.
	I deployed to HOA, exactly.
	I was at Camp Lemonade.
	Wow.
	And so you taught one of my classes.
	That's when I first met you.
	This was prior to you being a celebrity.
	A celebrity.
	I tell people that.
	Thank you.
	So anyways, I deployed in 2011-2012 to Afghanistan.
	I'm a civil affairs officer, learned the country very well, and learned the idiosyncrasies of all the country, including a lot of things I know you know about the illiteracy of the Afghans.
	So who are you a civil affairs officer with?
	I was a civil affairs officer with a 353 out in Staten Island.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Very cool.
	Stay on the line and we'll get you on the show.
	All right?
	Hold the line, Steve.
	Okay.
	Thanks.
	All right.
	Okay.
	80 seconds.
	Before you were a celebrity.
	Yeah, is that what he said, celebrity?
	Interesting phrase, choice of terminology there.
	But technically applicable.
	I like what Talvin called himself a broadcaster.
	It's very British.
	I'm a broadcaster.
	I think I will do today's show as a British radio announcer.
	What do you think?
	This is Salem Radio.
	I'm reminded of the exchange between Andrew Neil and Ben Shapiro.
	Ben Shapiro's like, are you a leftist journalist or a rightist journalist?
	And Andrew Neil says, I'm a journalist who asks questions.
	That was not a good interview for little Benny boy.
	No, it was not.
	I don't know who you are!
	Probably the most famous journalist in America, in the UK at that time.
	That's all Benny.
	But never mind.
	Never mind.
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	We're absolutely chock-a-block.
	The call board is so full.
	And I've got somebody who's allegedly a former student of mine, a man who's worn the cloth of the Republic.
	And when I briefed CJTO Hoa, Horn of Africa, he was one of the people in the room.
	Steve from New Jersey, great to hear from you.
	Hi Sebastian, how are you doing?
	Good, good.
	So did anything I teach you, was it of any utility when you deployed?
	No, it was.
	You're a very knowledgeable guy.
	I mean, you're a professor, very honest.
	You had a lot of expertise and a lot of stuff that you had taught.
	I used, when I went to Africa, I was all over the...
	I was all over there.
	I mean, you go to Camp Lemonade, and then you get deployed to Kenya, and you go to Somalia, and you go to wherever they want to send you from there.
	And I was the civil affairs officer, so I went all over the place.
	The guy that set up our class was Major Robichaud.
	Did you know him?
	I know the name.
	I do know the name.
	So tell us why you called in today.
	What is your reaction to the events of the last two weeks?
	So anyways, I'm a federal immigration officer now.
	I'm a retired lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserve.
	I just retired in January.
	In 2011-2012, as a civil affairs officer, I was all over Afghanistan.
	I was dealing with the Afghan army.
	I was dealing with district governors.
	I was dealing with police chiefs.
	I was dealing with hospital administrators, superintendents of school districts, trying to coordinate, accommodate, and do everything we do in CA to help this country get on its feet and become a real country.
	Knowing all the time, Sebastian, and I know you know this, that as soon as we left, this place was going downhill big time.
	Okay?
	But in that period of time, that 12 months I spent on ground, I probably worked with upwards of 20 interpreters and multiple people that helped me and assisted me with my mission.
	And then on multiple times I wrote letters of support to get them visas to the State Department.
	I accommodated multiple, not all of them, some of them were just so bad I didn't help them with anything, but some of them I did.
	So I believe in the support of them to get them to come here, to give them an opportunity to get a green card and residency in America, and to prevent them from being attacked by the enemy.
	But a lot of the people that ended up on that plane, Sebastian, Yeah.
	No, the vast majority, more than 90%, Steve, have nothing to do with SIVs or Terps.
	They're just Afghans who realize they had a free ride.
	So talk to me about your time on the ground in Afghanistan.
	We were really conning ourselves, weren't we?
	The idea that this nation with 36 languages, warlords, never functioned as a nation, would actually become a state.
	We were lying to ourselves, weren't we, Steve?
	Absolutely.
	Sebastian, these guys are illiterate.
	The country's illiterate.
	We were there trying to teach them stuff.
	We would be teaching six-year-olds in the same class as a 35-year-old Afghan soldier how to read.
	And guess who learned to read faster?
	You're being an educator, you know that the six-year-old would learn faster.
	It was a pathetic joke.
	We all knew that when we pulled out, we were the economy.
	We got rid of the poppy plant.
	We created an artificial economy.
	They were working in the military because that was the best job in town.
	And I knew it and everybody else knew it.
	If anyone in the military knew it, as soon as we left, this place was going to disintegrate.
	But I also knew that if we stayed there and maintained a proper 2,500 to 5,000 people in Bagram, that we can maintain our security there because these Taliban knew that if they messed with us, Just like Mr. Trump said, we would come after them with everything they had.
	And that's the way they operate.
	So I believe it was a total mistake to leave the continent, leave Afghanistan.
	We should have stayed there until further notice.
	Okay?
	And most people knew that.
	By leaving what we did, we created a vacuum.
	Now, Sebastian, you're an expert on this stuff.
	I know you know this already.
	And we're going to be going back there.
	I've already said we're going to go back there.
	And it's going to be a mess when we go back there next time.
	We should have stayed.
	We're going to go back there, sadly, Steve, and we're going to be facing people who have the weapons that we left there, that we made and we paid for.
	God bless you, Steve.
	Stay on the line.
	Thank you for your service doubly to this nation.
	Let's get Steve a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	He already has defeating jihad, I'm sure, but if you want to understand what he faced in theater, And what we're going to face here in America, the book is Defeating Jihad.
	You can get all of them at our website, SebGorkaStore.com.
	Let's go to Don.
	All the good guys have called in today.
	Leo Pepe, oh my gosh.
	Don, welcome to America First.
	Happy Friday.
	Happy Friday to you, Dr. G. Man, we need your rolling thunder voice more than ever now.
	Man, we are in deep kimchi.
	This is so, I wish I could wish you a happier Friday, a happier Labor Day, but man, this is just a disgrace.
	You know, the puppet president, you know, whoever's pulling the strings.
	Well, you know, this goes back to, you know, the Obama, Mr. G, you know, I mean, you know, when First, Obama bugged out of Iraq and left us with a mess to clean up.
	And then he helped create ISIS by bugging out.
	Exactly.
	It led to that refugee crisis, the ISIS attack, Trump had to clean it up.
	Then, he's trying to give Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood, but the Egyptian military quashed that.
	He's trying to make friends with Iran and push all our allies in the face.
	But you know, Dr. G, what we really need, hopefully Mr. Trump will be president again, And I'd like to see him make someone like Jared Kushner in charge of some high-level diplomacy between India and Pakistan.
	Just like, you know, like we used to do between, you know, the Arabs and the Israelis.
	They might not like each other, but they learn to work together.
	And even if for no other reason, then in Pakistan, Kenneth Timmerman wrote a great article a few years back where he said there's two streams.
	There's a group that wants democracy is it wants to be aligned with the United States and there's a group that wants jihadism wants to be aligned with the Saudis and it's the most dangerous country on earth isn't it.
	I mean, half the country is run by jihadis and they've got nuclear weapons.
	Well, it is, because the guys that have the nuclear weapons are the jihadis.
	So the ISI and the military, they're the jihadis.
	And the ones that want to be a bit more like India and be a democracy, they're the lawyers and they don't have any power.
	So you're absolutely right.
	Yeah, if we could get Ambassador Friedman back on the case, Jared could be a face of it as well.
	And by the way, you've reminded me, Don, and I really appreciate this.
	Let's just say this.
	The announcement of the president's future and what he is going to do in 2023 and 2024, let's just say it's pretty obvious that announcement is imminent.
	So Don, get ready.
	Are you ready?
	Ready to rock and roll, Dr. G.
	5 o'clock and ready to rock.
	Let's do it.
	Let's have an amazing long weekend.
	Let's get all the things done we've been putting off and let's get ready for President Trump to make his announcement about his run.
	God bless you, Don.
	We're going to get to all of your calls here on America First.
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	Is Jim coming in or not?
	Yes.
	Oh, good.
	Why didn't Mark come?
	That was, they had the Skype's on it.
	High quality.
	They're back on.
	There we go.
	Yeah, he's gonna announce in the next week or two.
	So, do you think there's a specific, like, strategy to that timing of why... Yeah, Afghanistan, screw up, absolutely.
	Well, I mean, yeah, but... The challenge is gonna be, I mean, even as historic as it is, you know with the media, just the way the cycle moves in general, will Afghanistan even really... Yeah, and it blocks all the other people that are gonna try and run out.
	Exactly.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	That'll be something.
	I think it would have been really cool if Trump declared, like, from the day he left office, he declared his run in 2024, so for the entirety of Biden's presidency.
	So the DeSantis show is over.
	Unless he's VP pick.
	Now it's the VP pick.
	Well, I don't know why people, I just have to, people always do that on my social media.
	I say, seriously, somebody suggested yesterday that DeSantis is going to run against him.
	I'm like, what?
	The mainstream media is putting out articles like that.
	How is Trump?
	It's what he runs on.
	He didn't try.
	They see how popular DeSantis is and they're trying to drive a wedge between him and the Trump base.
	Will you come in with yesterday's cut 7, Saki?
	Yesterday's 7, Saki, yeah.
	Alright, standing by.
	You don't get to say standing by, okay?
	You respond standing by.
	10 seconds, stand by.
	Was the president in any way pushing a false narrative in that call with the Afghan president?
	I think it's pretty clear.
	Again, I'm not going to go into details of a private conversation.
	I don't know, but they can't go into details about President Trump's conversations with anybody he called from the Australian Prime Minister to the President of the Ukraine.
	How strange.
	Double standards.
	Yes, more than you can shake a stick at.
	Let's go to our good buddies.
	Let's start with Pepe in El Paso.
	Buenas tardes, Pepe.
	Buenas tardes, señor Gorka.
	¿Cómo está?
	I am very well.
	How about you?
	Very well, thank you, sir.
	First of all, if you allow me, Semper Fi to my fallen brothers and the other servicemen that died.
	And a quick shout-out to Mr. Morgan.
	I know him from a past life, a long, long time ago.
	Oh, good!
	Good, good, good.
	Marines gotta stick together, right, Pepe?
	Hoorah.
	Semper Fi.
	Hoorah.
	Alright, what's your comment question for today?
	Very quickly, everything has been said that needs to be said, but Obama's managed decline has turned into Biden's defenestration from the highest penthouse.
	I think that people need to understand that this is not incompetence.
	This is not, you know, whoops, I'm sorry, I messed up.
	This is, this is deliberate.
	I firmly believe now this is deliberate.
	Seeing what, you know, what I have access to, what I've been able to see, and just from Um, different other aspects of our society.
	This is a concerted effort.
	So what's the end state?
	What's the end goal then?
	China.
	China preeminence.
	So they really, these people, the Democrats want to be subservient to China because if China's in control, then it's Beijing.
	It's not DC and the Democrats who are in control.
	Well, that's part of the, you know, they don't have a knowledge of history.
	They think that they're going to end up in one of the seats in the front row when probably they're going to be the first ones to go.
	They obviously don't know their history very well.
	They're useful idiots.
	They're useful puppets.
	And when their usefulness runs out, they're done.
	So it's the hubris of those who think they can profit from the rise of China without realizing that they'll be the first ones up against the wall if China wins.
	It's an interesting theory, and that is one thing that's for sure.
	Their levels of hubris know no bounds.
	Thank you, Pepe.
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	We will be talking national security imminently with James Carafano, taking your calls as well.
	But let's start with the former Secretary of State, former Director of the CIA, who, well, he doesn't think that the Taliban regime is going to be about inclusivity.
	Cut to.
	We had leverage.
	Leverage was our soldiers on the ground.
	It was places like Bagram Air Force Base.
	It was messages from the administration that made clear it would impose costs on them and the capability to actually deliver that demonstrated capability.
	That was leverage.
	I'm very concerned.
	I don't see that we have any leverage.
	I think that's actually when you hear the spokesperson or the president talk about leverage, I think that's code words for money, American money, going to these butchers, these men who are doing these horrific things today in Afghanistan.
	I think the president is signaling to the world he's willing to buy these Americans back when it didn't have to be the case.
	We didn't pay a dime to get these hostages back during our time.
	When we had Americans held, we got them out through American diplomacy and American power.
	I think this administration has headed exactly the opposite direction.
	They've given up 100 percent of the leverage that we had.
	Just like the Iran deal, Mike.
	Money, money, money.
	Not peace through strength.
	Not the way my old boss, President Trump, did it.
	And you saw that tragic video of the Afghan mothers, the children in that bus outside Karzai Airport, unable to get in, asking Biden for help.
	But it's not just abroad.
	It's also here in America.
	Biden has traveled to somewhere near the site of the damage in Louisiana, but here's a lady who isn't satisfied.
	On CNN, Katri.
	Come over with me.
	I'm going to introduce you to Mara.
	She's a mother of four, and she's telling us how she's been coping.
	And what she's doing to get through this tough time.
	You can stay right there, sweetheart.
	I'm just gonna snake over on this side.
	Talk to me about what's on your heart this afternoon.
	Well, we've been... I got you.
	Just relax.
	We're in the heat.
	We ain't got no lights.
	I've been like almost five days.
	I gotta sleep in the car.
	My kids are hot.
	We hungry.
	We're going to the gas station.
	The line is long.
	We gotta wait two hours and then the gas station close.
	You know how much that is?
	We gotta sleep in the car.
	I got kids and it's very hot.
	We're gonna die in here.
	Where's FEMA?
	Where's the Red Cross?
	We need help now.
	Can y'all help us?
	We about to die.
	We got children in here.
	I'm a single mom and I'm doing it by myself.
	It's hard out here.
	Can they help us?
	Where's the president?
	Can he come help us?
	Where's the president?
	He's giving press conferences where he doesn't take questions.
	But it's okay because socialism is on the way controlling what you are allowed to do because of inclement weather.
	At least if you're in New York.
	Bill de Blasio's message likewise on CNN.
	Cut six.
	I think it's a different ballgame now, a different strategy.
	Instead of assuming, as we have in the past, for example, a travel ban was a very, very rare thing in the past.
	A few times I've used that as when we were expecting massive blizzards.
	But now seeing what happened on Wednesday, a travel ban is the kind of thing I want to introduce into the equation early in each storm as a possibility and then pull the trigger if I have to and literally tell people off the streets, out of the subways, clear the way.
	He's such a commie.
	Whether it's passports for vaccines or travel bans, he gets to decide.
	That's the America they want to build here.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's get some reactions.
	From New Jersey, the one and only Leonardo.
	Happy Friday, Leo!
	Happy Friday and happy Labor Day to Katie and the children and my favorite celebrity truth teller, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	And to you, my friend.
	Thank you.
	I wanted to just say something about, you played that clip of the crazy redhead, that circled jerk back girl that works for Biden, the mouthpiece over there.
	If it wasn't for double standards, she'd have no standards at all.
	But the main reason I called was when you subtract off the fraudulent votes, Uh, the 65 million or so that, uh, I just wanted to talk to the people that actually voted for this demented nitwit Biden.
	And, uh, who, ask yourself now, who is the white supremacist racist?
	Who's the misogynist now when he's abusing all of these women and children of color?
	Not only at the border, but also at Afghanistan.
	Ask yourself that.
	That is so important.
	We secured the border so the women wouldn't be trafficked, so the girls wouldn't be raped.
	We kept a lid on Afghanistan.
	We bombed the Taliban when they didn't agree to our terms.
	And now the women are running for their lives.
	So you're right.
	Who's the racist?
	Who's the misogynist?
	It's Biden!
	They're always accusing of what they're doing.
	Yes.
	Always accusing.
	And the two governor races, go Larry Elder, let's take California back.
	And of course, the nitwit governor Murphy, the fascist, he's actually the first one to step up with the misplaced compassion routine and have Afghanis unvetted brought right into New Jersey around my house.
	We've got to vote him out with Jack Chiarelli in a couple of months now.
	God willing.
	Let's stay on this topic of the refugees.
	Have a wonderful Labor Day weekend, Leo.
	Al, California, line three.
	Al, line three.
	How you doing, Sebastian?
	Yes, good.
	Questions.
	One, I'm assuming that if the Constitution protects firearms, it also protects ammunition.
	Now, here's what bugs me.
	and the attribution of Tucker Carlson.
	At the same time, we've left 300,000 assault rifles to the Taliban.
	Working behind the scenes, the Biden administration is trying to curtail acquisition of commonly used small arms ammunition.
	I was wondering if you knew about that.
	Well, I know that they last week, they banned the importation of ammunition from Russia.
	So all you guys out there who like the cheap Russian 7.62x39, or the 5.45, or even the 9x39, the prices have rocketed.
	They've already doubled in less than a week.
	So yeah, I'm aware of what they're trying to do.
	Right.
	Also, and the final point, if I can bumble through it here, Again, the attribution of Tucker Carlson.
	He's pretty much a straight shooter and does his research.
	He says, are those people we're bringing over in those big transport planes?
	Here's the kicker.
	99% of them want to practice Sharia law.
	Now, the one thing I've always been against for the United States, we need to preserve our own laws.
	We don't need Code Napoleon or Sharia law being practiced in the United States.
	Any comment on that?
	Look, I don't know everything about the 124,000 people that came here.
	I think some of them want a better life.
	I think some of them are ringers.
	And I think many of them will live or want to live by the code that they experienced through their formative years.
	So yes, but you know, the bigger problem isn't their attitude to the U.S.
	Constitution.
	The bigger problem is Thank you.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and to you.
	We have no way of knowing who they are.
	Nothing.
	They don't exist on databases we can access, and they have no documents.
	So it's a ticking time bomb.
	We have no idea who they are.
	Thank you, Al. Mark, New Jersey, welcome.
	Happy Friday.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and to you.
	I just want to remind everyone, in addition to the hundreds of Americans being held against their will in Afghanistan, which I believe is the term for a hostage.
	There are a group of approximately 30 schoolchildren, I believe from Sacramento, California, terrified.
	Obviously, all these Americans are experiencing trauma, not to mention the innocent Afghans who helped us.
	But schoolchildren, I hope this is brought out some more.
	They are obviously homesick, crying, I'm terrified.
	This is like psychological torture for all of our people, okay?
	To be held there courtesy of Mr. Biden's decision, probably with some help from Susan Rice, to do things backwards, pulling the military out first.
	This is all on him and his Democrat allies.
	Thank you, Doctor.
	You're very welcome, Mark, and you nailed it.
	The person making all the decisions is of course Rice and her former bag people, her body men, her flunkies are running the State Department and the NSC.
	That's who Jake Sullivan, that's who little Anthony Beta Male Blinken is.
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	The Marine?
	That was... D, right?
	I think so, yeah.
	I want to post that.
	I want to post that.
	What do you want to call it?
	We never were going to build a A real Afghanistan.
	Okay.
	And, uh, Jim's here.
	Well, let's get him in!
	Jim, you can, uh, go on in now.
	Mike's alive as usual.
	Mike's alive as usual.
	There we go.
	Sorry, yeah, yeah.
	Double duty today.
	Hey, we had Mark on, our first guest.
	Mark Morgan.
	And now we got you!
	I think I'll look for a very attractive blonde next Tuesday.
	Oh, really?
	Should I be worried?
	She's married.
	I love working with Katie.
	She's such a... She's so creative and such an energizer.
	Oh, good.
	She always worries that she's not having enough of an impact.
	Jim, can you talk in the mic real quick?
	Oh, let's...
	No.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Try now.
	I think that's mic four, I believe.
	I know.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thumbnail.
	Why is this not working?
	It's blinking as if it's on and off.
	Switch mics?
	No, try one more time.
	Okay, I can try.
	I don't even hear me.
	Yeah, I'm not hearing him.
	I'm not hearing me.
	I'm still not hearing me.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let me try it.
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	You saw that shocking video, that tragic video of the Afghan women in that bus with their children.
	But it seems as if there's a lack of information inside the White House.
	Do we have more information than they do?
	This is the Propagandist-in-Chief.
	Cut five.
	Play cuts.
	There was some rejoice in the BBC, some color from that story.
	Since the Taliban came to power, one man said they haven't stopped killing.
	A few days ago, this person said they killed 12 members of special forces in Kandahar, three soldiers in Jalalabad as well.
	The Taliban took them out of their homes and shot them.
	Given this kind of reporting that we're hearing, is it possible that our reliance on the Taliban to keep their word in terms of our evacuation is misplaced with going back on things like the MSU promise?
	Well, first, I don't have any confirmation of those details.
	I'm not questioning the BBC's reporting.
	I just don't have any confirmation of them from the U.S.
	government.
	So I guess the BBC has better intel than the 17 U.S.
	intelligence agencies that work for the President of the United States.
	Let's get his reaction.
	I've been waiting all week for this.
	He is the vice president of the Heritage Foundation, Heritage.org.
	He is the man we go to for all matters national security and foreign policy.
	Jim Carafano, welcome back to America First.
	You're on.
	Am I on?
	No, I'm not on.
	Yeah, you are.
	You are live on national radio.
	Sorry, America, you have to actually hear.
	So listen, I think there's two big issues.
	One is what they're going to do next, which is going to make things even worse in the White House.
	And I think the other is how we stop it.
	Okay, so before we get to that, for two days now, I've been quoting your tweet here on America First, a very powerful, super powerful, very short tweet, where you said, Kabul wasn't a withdrawal, it was the result of contact with the enemy, which means it's a retreat, Jim.
	Why did you write that?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	And I'm not Nancy Drew, but I think and I even think on your show, people have unpacked this enough to understand what's going on.
	Biden convinced himself that Afghanistan was going to collapse.
	So he had and so he grabbed Ghani and he said, you're going to kind of deal with the Taliban and you're going to turn the country over to the Taliban.
	And what you guys are going to do is let me leave first and then the country is going to collapse and it won't happen on my watch and it won't be my fault.
	And what happened is, of course, the Taliban were like, well, dude, if you just tell us you're leaving, we're not going to cut any deal.
	And of course, Ghani got cold feet, grabbed his suitcases and headed for the door.
	And then what Biden did was just execute his plan anyway.
	So he precipitated the collapse.
	And then he put himself in a situation where there was no escape.
	It's literally like Dustin Hoffman walks up to Custer and says, dude, there's a million Indians on the Little Bighorn.
	Don't go there.
	And then Custer charges anyway and gets surrounded by the Indians.
	And then he turns to the guy next to him and said, how could this possibly have happened?
	Okay, but there's one aspect, well there's many aspects, but there's one key strategic aspect that I just don't have any plausible scenario for.
	So the idea that, you know, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the intelligence agencies, anybody would allow a president to sacrifice the only strategic airbase in the region.
	How is that possible?
	So here is how this happened.
	And of course I wasn't there, but I know this is what happened, because I know how you stop this kind of wacky stuff.
	So the reason why was because the president said you cannot have any more troops, and they couldn't cover both airbases and the embassy, so they sacrificed Bagram.
	But they sacrificed both of them, Jim!
	So the thing is, it's like, how would you get out of this?
	Here's how you've gotten out of this, right?
	In the room, in front of everybody, with note-takers, on the record, you would go to the president and say, Mr. President, You've just ordered us to evacuate Kabul with the forces that we have on the ground.
	I am informing you that that will not work.
	That we will not be able to provide for the security of our forces and we will not get everybody out.
	Having just told you that, is that the order that you want me to execute?
	And of course, any president would have said, uh, no, right?
	But here's what I'm sure what happened.
	The president said, well, I'm afraid, you know, we might get a Blackhawk moment here.
	We might have casualty or something.
	So, and, and it'll look like I'm escalating.
	So you cannot have any more troops.
	And I'm sure what they did is looked at it, but they said, Oh, okay, Mr. President, we'll do the best we can.
	That's how we got where we are.
	Cause we had leader, we had military leaders who Who have become so accustomed to just rolling over and doing what their political masters said that they don't know how to lead.
	And FDR did.
	There were times when FDR looked George Marshall in the face and he said, do this.
	And Marshall said, Mr. President, I am your servant.
	I will do exactly what you order me.
	But let me tell you the consequences of your decision.
	And FDR said, thank you, General.
	I appreciate that.
	We're going to do the thing that's right for this country.
	And that moment, I am confident, never happened.
	That's why we are where we are.
	But here's the problem.
	When you're in a hole, stop digging.
	Biden is like digging.
	He says, I know there's a tunnel under here somewhere.
	Things are going to get worse because the worst is yet to come.
	Which means, as we had a colonel, who'd been a student of mine, call in the show earlier, who spent a year in Afghanistan with the Civil Affairs Unit, and he said, given what has just happened, he knows that we're going to have to go back and fight.
	Is that pretty certain, Jim?
	I don't know.
	I do not think that Biden has the stomach to go back and fight, no matter how bad things get.
	What if we have a thousand U.S.
	hostages and they start killing them?
	I don't know.
	This man has made every wrong decision in his entire political career.
	And part of the reason why we're here is, if you think about it, Biden has never been held to the consequences of his decision.
	He's never been in charge So for 40 years he said things, most of which were stupid, and either people didn't do them, or if a bill got passed or something, nobody really held him accountable for the consequences.
	Trump, his whole life was accountable for his businesses, for his people, for his office.
	He understood that if I made a bad call, I was going to live with what I did to people.
	So for the first time in his life, Biden made a decision and humans were held, and he had to deal with that consequence.
	And how did he deal with it?
	He ran and hid behind talking points.
	He cannot do this.
	He's not capable of taking responsibility for the bad decisions that he makes.
	A person with that track record, they're not going to suddenly start making the right decisions, are they, Jim?
	Well, and they're not willing to make decisions and take responsibility for the consequences that follow.
	They want the easy out.
	They want to be told, it's okay, we'll vote for you anyway, it's not your fault, here's your participation trophy.
	Incredible.
	Truly incredible.
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	Two issues.
	Everything I hear coming out of this White House, this State Department, is an attempt to normalize the Taliban.
	And we also have to talk about AQ and Haqqani and everything else.
	But Jim, how can you normalize relations with the Taliban?
	Well, here's the problem with trying to do that is what you are doing is empowering and legitimatizing them.
	And what that will do is speed the degree to which they will become a threat.
	Their relationship with al-Qaeda and the Haqqani Network, and as you know, the Haqqani Network were the people that originally insisted that the Taliban invite bin Laden to come to Afghanistan.
	They span Afghanistan and Pakistan.
	They have a relationship with the Pakistani intelligence services.
	These are religious zealots.
	And the Taliban may not have the perfect relationship with it, but they can't give them up.
	Explain why Al-Qaeda and Haqqani have to go back to Afghanistan, have to reconstitute their bases.
	Why is the 20th anniversary of September the 11th so important?
	What is their goal right now?
	And this gets to the key point why the administration's course of action is so incredibly dangerous that it is actually the beginning of the most dangerous phase of this crisis.
	Not the end of the crisis, but the start of the really big, scary crisis.
	Because once – and they've already done this.
	The day they touch back on Afghan soil, they only have one thing in mind – Only one thing they have to do.
	They have to have another 9-11.
	They have to do it.
	And it has to be planned out of Afghanistan.
	It's not like, oh, we learned our lesson.
	You know, if we just stick to terrorism or other places, the Americans won't bother us again.
	Because honor is power.
	And they have to regain their honor, and they have to regain their respect, and they have to fill the historic mission that the global jihad is alive and well.
	And the way they do that is 20 years after 9-11, they strike America in its heart again, and they kill as many as and if more.
	That is the glory that cannot be resisted.
	They have to do this.
	And how does the open southern border potentially feed into that?
	Well look, I mean, we have several problems here.
	Tens of millions of people will illegally cross that southern border.
	Forget about refugees and stuff like this.
	That is the best, today, the best vector for a terrorist attack.
	Not try to recruit somebody here, they might get caught.
	Not send somebody through.
	Walk across the southern border.
	It is the best way to get a trained, dedicated team into this country to kill people right now.
	It is the number one problem.
	Control of that border is the number one security issue that we have today.
	And number two is, for seven months, or eight months now, this administration has been taking the Department of Justice and Homeland Security and using them primarily to persecute, hound, and harass conservatives, Trump voters, all their political enemies.
	They are not doing the day job, which is focusing on hunting down the terrorists who are on their way here as we speak.
	Not five years in the future.
	Now.
	I'm out of time, but if you think that Jim is exaggerating anything, I have a story here from Jeremy Beeman that tells you, chapter and verse, with the names, why this is all true.
	An FBI agent involved in the investigation of the plot against the Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and who this agent is and why he was removed from the case and what he said about the former president and his supporters.
	This is the priority for the political elite today to hound, to harass and to persecute those they politically disagree with as our borders are open and as Haqqani and Al-Qaeda are flooding back into Afghanistan.
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	This is an FBI special agent on social media, okay?
	Just to reiterate, his ego is going to kill a lot of people, and anyone who supports that is a dumbass.
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	Oh, and the best thing, you get to page two of the story, Agent Trask's involvement in the case had already been complicated after he was arrested in July for beating his wife during an alleged dispute over his swingers party.
	Yeah, today's the FBI.
	Okay, let's talk Second Amendment with our good buddy from the conservative website Breitbart.com, that powerhouse, AWR Hawkins.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Sebastian, great to be with you.
	Hey, so much to discuss.
	Let's talk about, first, Texas constitutional carry.
	Is this a big deal?
	I thought Texas was already pro-gun.
	They're pro-gun, but they have, you know, you've been able to carry a long gun loaded without any permit for a long time, but, you know, it was just in 2015 they adopted campus carry, and then they adopted, after that, they adopted open carry with a license, and now they've done away with the license, and it's open or concealed carry.
	as of September 1, 2021, open or concealed, and your permit is the Second Amendment.
	That's how it should be. - That's how it should be.
	Yeah, my permit, it's this thing.
	My permit, it's the Constitution.
	That's my permit to carry, right? - Right, right.
	And the thing that's important, you know, you had the left going wild When Utah did it earlier, when we had some of the latter states to do this, or Utah and Montana and Texas and Tennessee, and when each state approached this, the left act like, oh, there's going to be blood in the streets, shootouts, this and that.
	Texas is the 21st state to do this, Sebastian.
	This is not like, it's not like an experiment.
	It's called freedom.
	And the move is toward freedom, not away from it, and I love it.
	Could you imagine, you know, we should have every state be constitutional, carry 21 already, that's amazing.
	Could this liberalization or return to constitutionality, could this affect other things such as the ATF-controlled weapons, the NFA ones such as short barrel shotguns, fully automatic, do you think that's even a possibility?
	Well, I think all of this has a trickle-down effect.
	I know people hate that because it sounds Reagan-esque.
	I know you don't hate it, but I mean, the liberals hate it.
	But yeah, you know, the thing is, what you do with constitutional carry, I remember covering in New Hampshire, Sebastian.
	In New Hampshire, the senators were very pointed.
	They said, look, Why do you have to get a document from the government to carry a gun?
	That's like asking the government for permission to carry out your Second Amendment rights.
	And if that's the mentality we're going to adopt, then the trickle down from that is that a lot of gun controls aren't going to work.
	It's not just going to be permitting.
	It's not just going to be licensing.
	There are a lot of gun controls that aren't going to work.
	And I think that's what the left sees.
	They realize That this one freedom leads to more freedom, and that's what they hate.
	Yeah, that is what they hate.
	We're talking to Breitbart's A.W.R.
	Hawkins.
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	Hawkins.
	A.W.R., we've got two minutes left.
	Talk to us about the big news in the gun community, especially for guys like me who like AKs, the banning of importation or new importation of Russian ammunition to the United States.
	Oh, my.
	Yeah, I mean, this is a...
	This is one of those solutions looking for a problem.
	You know, the Biden administration claims they did this because the Russian government employed some type of illegal gas in an attack a year or two years ago.
	I can't remember when it was, but what they want to do now is they're going to say, look, you can't, it's a year ban on importation of very common Russian ammo, wolf and others.
	And as you know, and any gun owner knows who shoots a lot, when ammo was almost impossible to find, you could always find some wolf or other Russian ammo.
	And you could get it cheap.
	And fathers could keep teaching their sons how to shoot.
	Mothers could keep teaching their daughters how to shoot.
	Families could keep shooting together.
	And this ban, for as long as it lasts, is really going to hinder that, Sebastian.
	Because no matter what you're dealing with, whether you're dealing with We're dealing with pickup trucks or apples.
	If you take a large segment of either out of the equation, then the limited number of pickup trucks left, the price automatically goes up, and that's the only option buyers have, so they're stuck with it.
	And that's what's going to happen with ammo because of what Biden's doing.
	And let's be clear.
	Listen to what AWR said.
	This ammunition was relatively cheap.
	Much of it was steel cased, which means what?
	Again, The champions of the working class are hurting those who have the least money to expend on this.
	But that's the whole point.
	They don't want you to practice.
	They don't want you to actually exercise.
	It's not your Second Amendment rights.
	It's your constitutional rights.
	God bless you AWR.
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	If I'm just being honest.
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	So very, very strange.
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	Today we are delighted to have back with us somebody who has a very interesting bio on Twitter.
	One quote from somebody I like called Dan Wooten is he's a quote-unquote superstar.
	The other ones from some organization of crazies called the Race Trust calls him a house N-word.
	I prefer what Dan calls him.
	He's just a truth-teller extraordinaire.
	Calvin Robinson, welcome back to America First one-on-one.
	Sebastian, it's so good to be here again.
	Thank you for the invitation.
	So I don't know.
	We did an interview with you a while ago.
	I mean, I think it was last year.
	We did a fabulous long-form interview just as YouTube cancelled us and terminated our account because, well, fascism.
	Is the reason.
	And you told this amazing story about yourself, your background, the state of bigotry in the UK.
	For those who didn't catch the radio broadcast of that last time, people who just found us today, please, in just a few minutes, tell us where you hail from and how did you get to be from a schoolteacher in North London, now a man of the media?
	I don't know myself, but I'll give it a go.
	I used to work in education, as you mentioned.
	I was a school teacher, I became a deputy head teacher, and all throughout that time in education I was blogging.
	I was writing about what I was seeing and owning it, putting my name to it, because there have been so many people over the years that have been, you know, secret teacher and those kind of columnists that have put things out there, but you can never quite tell if it's Purely anecdotal, if it's actually going on because they didn't use the name.
	So I thought I'm going to own it.
	I'm going to put my name to it.
	And what I saw all around me was left wing indoctrination of our young people.
	And it sickened me because before being a teacher, I worked in industry.
	You know, I worked in technology, website design and development, mobile app design and development.
	And in an office, I could be sat next to a Lib Dem A Labour voter from the left, a Conservative voter from the right, and we'd all get on.
	We'd all go for drinks at the end of Friday, you know, we'd have that cheeky Friday beverage.
	And that was great, but going into teaching I realised that there's a massive echo chamber here of groupthink mentality, and it's dangerous because it's being pushed onto our kids, and parents aren't necessarily aware of what's going on.
	So I started blogging about it, what I was seeing, and One of my local press newspapers picked up on one of my stories and said, do you still believe that this is going on?
	And I was like, believe it?
	I see it every day.
	Yes, I do.
	And so they published a piece.
	And off the back of that, a lot of our mainstream broadcast, not broadcast, newspapers picked up on it, broadsheets and the tabloids picked up on it.
	And then after that, They started coming to me for opinions and started coming to me, you know, about education issues.
	And this is during lockdown, the first lockdown.
	So we closed our schools.
	We denied kids of education in this country.
	It was ridiculous.
	It's one of the greatest evils we've ever done.
	Uh, because the social divide is widening in this country.
	We've got, you know, the wealthy were managed, you know, they managed to educate their kids because they've got computers and broadband internet access, but the less well-off, the disadvantaged did not manage to do the same because you might have A single parent who's working from home on the only computer in the house.
	The three kids don't have access to any devices.
	Whole host of reasons, but we've seen people get left behind because of lockdown.
	But anyway, this happened over lockdown while I was still teaching.
	So I continue to talk about it, continue to write about it.
	And more and more people started asking me to voice my opinion because I was, I'm not the lone conservative voice in education, but there are very few that speak out because they're afraid.
	Because if you do speak out as a conservative in education, you get stigmatized because they are so left-leaning that they kind of have this sense of,
	moral superiority because they only speak with people that think like them they assume that they're right and everyone else is wrong and that's such a dangerous mentality because not only do they think that conservatives are wrong they think we're bad they think we're evil and they're pushing that on the kids you know in the classroom i'd hear kids saying oh donald trump and this is in the united kingdom kids would be saying oh donald trump he's a bad guy he's a racist he's and i'd be like wait stop there stop right there You're entitled to your opinions.
	You can think whatever you like about him, but back it up.
	Tell me, why is Donald Trump a racist?
	And that's what you'd hear from the kids, because all they know is what the adults are telling them.
	And it's so dangerous for their young minds.
	But Calvin, I have to jump straight in here, especially because of the N-word label that is at the top of your Twitter feed, and follow this man Calvin Robinson right now, you will not regret it.
	Watch him, GB News, listen to him on the UK's talk radio, where my good buddy Mike Graham has a great show.
	You're not white.
	So it's not just being conservative that's the problem, it's you're the wrong skin colour as well to be a conservative.
	So let's talk about this allegation that post-imperial nations like the UK or superpowers like America are inherently racist and therefore you are doubly a sinner, Calvin, because one of your parents wasn't white and you're a conservative.
	I know, it's outrageous, isn't it?
	We're all sinners, though, at the end of the day, and this is what people forget.
	Because they replace original sin, don't they?
	These identity politics peddlers with their critical race theory, looking at the world through a racial lens.
	They see racism everywhere because they're looking for it everywhere.
	Now, I grew up in... Sorry, go ahead.
	Don't interrupt.
	Carry on.
	I grew up in the Midlands, Sebastian, and I know you know it.
	It was a very predominantly white area where I grew up, and I was one of... Well, my family were the first black family in the town.
	So I know what racism is like.
	I've experienced it first hand.
	Real, true racism.
	You know, people putting fireworks through our letterbox, stealing our washing off the line, spitting at us in the street.
	I know what racism is.
	Which is why I say I'm not a victim of oppression or racism in my day-to-day life.
	As an adult in this country, I have equal opportunities.
	And we're not a meritocracy, but we're working towards it.
	But what disturbs me is when I see people saying, that's racist, that's racist, they're racist.
	I'm like, well, clearly you don't know what racism is if you think everything is racist.
	And this is the problem.
	We've become so good.
	We've made so much progress that people are looking for problems where they don't exist.
	And because I'm standing up on the right, or centre-right, whatever you want to call it, of politics, Small-c conservatism, believing in democracy, rule of law, tolerance of people of all different faiths and non, pretty standard things, you know, the state should be small and non-interventionist and leave me to get on with my business as a free man in a free country.
	That, to me, is pretty straightforward, common-sense stuff.
	But because I'm brown, they assume that I have to be left-leaning.
	And to me, that's the racism, that's the real racism.
	This idea that because of the colour of my skin, they can determine who I vote for, how I talk, how I style my hair.
	All of these things, they have a say on every aspect of my life.
	And it's like, do you not look at yourselves and think, you know, why are you dictating to me how I should act, how I should talk, who I should vote for, based on Happenstance of birth.
	I didn't choose to be brown.
	I wouldn't choose to be brown, white or anything.
	I don't care about the color of my skin.
	It doesn't affect me.
	Other than, you know, I've spoken about different instances where I've experienced racism, but anyone can experience racism and that's the wider problem that I want to keep.
	I want to keep yelling from the rooftops because I worked in inner city schools in the capital of this great nation where actually most white people are in a minority, which is quite strange because it's different to the rest of the country.
	And I've seen young white kids get bullied because of the color of their skin.
	I've seen them held back because of the color of their skin.
	I've seen them treated differently, not just by the kids, but by the teachers because of the color of their skin.
	So I know firsthand that anyone can be the victim of racism and anyone could perpetrate racism.
	But the left will say, no, no, no, no, no.
	Only white people can be racist.
	And therefore, Calvin, you are a house n-word, you're a race traitor, you're a coconut, a bounty, you're brown on the outside, white on the inside.
	Which again, tells me that they're the true racists.
	Because brown, white, these are skin colours, they're not personality traits.
	How can you be white on the inside?
	What does it mean to be white to these people?
	To them, it means success.
	It means getting by in life.
	It means not being a victim.
	It means not having excuses to rely on, because that's what it means to many of these people on the left to be coloured, to be brown, to be an ethnic minority.
	To them, it's an excuse quite often.
	If they haven't achieved the success they've wanted in life, they can say, the system's against us because we're a minority.
	You know, everything's racist.
	Everyone's racist.
	That's why I'm not where I want to be.
	And quite often, it's actually, no, you haven't got your head down in your books.
	You haven't worked hard enough.
	and you haven't stuck your neck above the parapet and if you did in this like I say it's not quite meritocratic society but it's you know we have equal opportunities under the law if you work hard enough you can become anything you want to be and that goes for anyone no matter what skin color they are.
	And sadly that ideology of victimhood actually perpetuates that that push against meritocracy means that those who are
	told that you are victims can very likely stay victims because they are given that worldview and so you perpetuate a deadly cycle instead of focusing on what is possible we're talking to Calvin Robinson who I'm delighted to now call a broadcaster a fellow broadcaster I kind of lucked into it myself and I love being on this side of the microphone follow him at Calvin Robinson, so much more to discuss.
	I got such a long list of things I want to talk to with Calvin.
	Okay, so let's stick on the other big ones as much as we can.
	Calvin, give us a very quick update because I see it as the beginning of this rise of healthy populism, the Trump phenomena, whether it's the Brexit phenomena.
	What is the state of the anti-elite movement in the UK?
	We see in Australia these Mind-numbing videos of people getting arrested for saying the wrong thing about COVID on Twitter.
	Unbelievable given the history of Australia and the rugged individualism.
	Are things healthy on your side of the Atlantic?
	Are you seeing the movement that brought us Brexit growing into a broader populism?
	I wish, I wish.
	There's something happening but it's bubbling underneath the surface at the moment.
	What's happening is that people are getting tired of these authoritarian regimes with their draconian rules, you know, taking away people's civil liberties, telling people not only when they're allowed to leave their house but who they're allowed in their own home.
	You know, we've always said in this country an Englishman's home is his castle and that should be the case but it's no longer.
	But people are getting tired of it.
	They're starting to go out on freedom marches and expressing their concern but it's not being covered by the mainstream media who are complicit in this and we're moving away from the anti-lockdown protests now into the anti-vaccine passport protests which I think are the ultimate in removing our civil liberties because it's dividing society into the clean versus the unclean so to speak even though anyone could spread this dreaded virus whether you're vaccinated or not it doesn't make a difference so it doesn't make sense to have a passport of
	vaccine status and we've lost our sense of, you know, privacy was a British value, a Western value.
	We've lost our sense of privacy at this point too.
	We're, we're hearing people say, have you been vaccinated?
	And it's like, I got asked that on air the other day.
	I'm like, well, it's none of your business.
	I don't understand.
	I wouldn't ask you if you've been, you know, for STD tests lately, or if you've, you know, had a certain, certain medical procedure, why do you think it's okay to ask me if I've received the COVID vaccine?
	It's because we've become so obsessed with COVID.
	And obviously you mentioned what's happening in New Zealand and Australia.
	They've gone to almost totalitarian at the moment.
	You know, New Zealand's locked down after one COVID case.
	Australia, they're arresting people for silent protests, for goodness sake.
	You're not even allowed to protest silently against these horrible measures.
	What we're seeing over here is in Scotland the government want to keep the emergency Covid powers and broaden their range so they'll no longer be used just for Covid.
	They want to have these measures permanently so they can lock down people for any reason.
	They can close schools for any reason and they can let people out of prison early for any reason.
	These are all very very scary prospects.
	And this is the problem though, isn't it?
	You know, once you give a government power, they don't want to let it go.
	And people keep saying, but it's for the greater good.
	But that's how tyranny always creeps in.
	The thin end of the wedge for the greater good.
	And we have to stand up and say no.
	And I think the dividing line right now is the vaccine possible.
	Whether you take the vaccine or not, that's up to you.
	That's your personal choice, or it should be.
	But the coercion that's happening in our society, in the whole of the West as we're seeing it right now, and I include Australia and New Zealand in the West along with America and Great Britain, but what we're seeing is people are being coerced into taking a medical procedure because they won't be able to access certain parts of normal everyday life unless they do.
	And that's wrong, that's abhorrent.
	And I saw today on Twitter actually a church in San Francisco, Grace Cathedral, is saying that only the vaccinated can attend their services.
	I'm like, for goodness sake, you are literally turning away people from church.
	This is, well, it's the definition of evil.
	It's, you know, denying people access to God.
	It's saying that you cannot receive the most blessed sacrament.
	You cannot become, you cannot experience that closeness with Christ unless you meet these medical conditions.
	Who?
	No one has the right to say that or do that.
	I guess lepers now don't get to go to heaven, I guess.
	Yeah, sick people don't, you know, the good Samaritan, no, sorry, you don't get any assistance.
	But let's talk about the most evil aspect of this all, and you mentioned the kids earlier, and you mentioned the masks.
	I want to put something on the screen.
	I'll read it to our radio listeners as well.
	This is from an amazing guy called Phil Kirpin.
	It's hard to read, but I'll tell you the figures here.
	These are all the deaths in America in the last 18 months.
	And I just want to talk about one category.
	It's the second category.
	And it's those who are children 5 to 18, sorry, 5 years old to 14.
	to 18, sorry, five years old to 14.
	In the last 18 months, that age cohort saw a total number of 9,145 deaths, 9,000 in America.
	in America.
	Of those, 133 were with COVID, which means 1.5%.
	Calvin, let's go back to this issue of masks.
	We are masking kids in America in those locales run by the Democrats and the government, the federal government, wants to mandate it everywhere.
	We are putting kids in masks for eight hours a day when the mortality rate from COVID is 1.5 percent.
	Isn't this the most evil aspect of what we've gone through in the last year and a half?
	It's entirely wicked because of course these children are removing the masks and moving them around, therefore rendering them ineffective because they're touching them.
	You're not supposed to do that.
	We know that.
	We know they're supposed to be single use.
	But a lot of the science, and we talk a lot about the science these days as if it's definitive, but a lot of the science suggests that actually these masks are comfort blankets.
	They don't do anything to prevent the spread of the virus.
	And if they do, it's miniscule in effect.
	And what it has is an adverse effect on their mental health.
	So it's detrimental to young people.
	But we're seeing worse than the masks across the board, especially over here, we're seeing a push to vaccinate 12-year-olds and up.
	And now if we consider the stats that you just showed us, but the wider stats suggest also that young people are not susceptible to risk of this virus, not for severe illness and not for death.
	Of course, there will be rare instances where that happens, but on the whole, children do well with this virus and their natural immunity is better than the vaccine.
	Therefore, surely we should leave young people alone.
	If they catch it, they catch it.
	If they don't, they don't.
	But if they do catch it, they'll build up a natural immunity, which is stronger than the poor efficacy of the vaccine, which has proven to be less than we thought it would be.
	People are talking about third shots already, but the fact that we're talking about vaccinating children, and I ask a lot of doctors, now that I've switched from the commentator to broadcaster mode, I get to ask these professors and these doctors, and I say, why?
	Why should we vaccinate children?
	And they say, logistical reasons.
	They say things like, so schools don't have to close down again, or to protect the elderly and the vulnerable.
	Surely we should not give people a medical procedure unless it protects them.
	We should not use children as a shield to protect adults.
	That is wicked, that's abhorrent and it's evil.
	Yeah, I think I heard somebody else also in the UK make this point and maybe they got it from you.
	And this is, I mean, this is the truly philosophical heart of the matter.
	It is wrong To impinge upon the freedoms of the healthy, especially children, to protect those who aren't healthy.
	Medicine has always said, you help those who are in need.
	The idea that a quarantine for the first time in the history since the Hippocratic Oath was invented is used to quarantine the healthy is insanity.
	You protect those who are vulnerable and not those who are healthy.
	And we know, you as a former teacher, the face-to-face relationship The seeing of the face is one of the crucial aspects of the development of children, of babies, of toddlers, of people who are in junior school, in high school.
	It is how human beings relate to each other.
	We're talking to Calvin Robinson.
	He's now a broadcaster.
	Catch him on GB News in the UK.
	Also at our friends Talk Radio.
	Calvin, let's talk about your former profession.
	We have a glorious sight in America, thanks to, I think, COVID, with parents finally seeing what their children are being taught with all these at-home video lectures.
	But we're also getting glimpses into the political indoctrination that is still happening in schools.
	And I want to play a little clip from a teacher talking in his class to his students.
	Play cut.
	I'm about to come out to all my students.
	So, I have a quick announcement for everybody.
	Can everybody look up from their phones?
	My class is important, please.
	Hello?
	I'm waiting.
	You guys, look at me.
	So, I usually go by Mr. Johnson, but I would like to be called ZOA now.
	My name is ZOA, and I'm non-binary, so you can call me Mr. ZOA, you can call me Miss ZOA, you can call me Mick ZOA, that's M-X period, and I go by all pronouns.
	That's it.
	Thank you.
	Thanks, guys.
	That's it.
	I'm proud of you.
	Aw, thank you.
	If anybody has any questions you can ask me at the end of class.
	They're proud of him, they're squealing, he puts the resistance fist up at the end of the video.
	Your reaction as somebody who's taught to what you heard him say, and then your reaction to the students' reaction about him saying I'm non-binary and you can call me XYZ.
	First of all, I can tell that this chap is a poor teacher because he's begging for their attention.
	Please, look at me!
	Please, children!
	Sorry, they are children in your class.
	If you ask for their attention, they should give it to you.
	And if they're not, that means you've been a poor teacher.
	Bad behavior for learning right there.
	But also, what he's telling them, it's perverted.
	Why is it of their interest how he sees himself in his sex or his gender or whatever you want to call it?
	It's irrelevant to what he's supposed to be doing there.
	He's supposed to be imparting knowledge.
	I don't know what he teaches, what subject he teaches, but for him to be pausing a lesson, disrupting their learning to talk about his own personal issues, his own personal mental health issues, is irrelevant and it's wrong.
	I don't know what non-binary means because there are two sexes.
	Does that mean that he doesn't subscribe to one of them or both of them?
	I don't get that.
	It's a nonsense to me.
	But if he needs mental health support, he should get it outside of work and not push that on the children.
	And he certainly shouldn't push his personal politics onto the children.
	And for those students to be celebrating, I mean, bless them.
	They're very polite and very well-meaning, but they shouldn't have to deal with this issue.
	So let's go back to your experience, and this is something that I think gives me hope.
	I taught at college level for many years.
	I didn't do what you do.
	That's a real job, teaching in junior schools or primary schools or secondary schools.
	You said that when kids told you Trump's a racist, and then you say, can you back that up?
	There's a kind of stutter.
	There's an um and an ah.
	And I have an impression, maybe this is just being Pollyannish or being an optimist, that indoctrination has been going on for decades, but it's a very shallow indoctrination.
	It's a denial of truth, objectivity and beauty, but there's no depth to it.
	Is that your experience and does that mean that we can counter it with truth and beauty?
	Absolutely, and that is how we win.
	Countering it with truth and beauty.
	Universal truth.
	Getting rid of this idea that everyone has their own my truth.
	I don't understand that.
	Everyone has an opinion, sure, but you don't all have access to your own individual truths.
	There is a truth out there, and the purpose of education is to explore knowledge, explore understanding, and find the truth.
	And the indoctrination that I've seen has been superficial.
	It's been very So we know that 70% of teachers vote for left-leaning parties.
	That's in America and the UK.
	In fact, more so in academia than in school education.
	But what they do is the way they have the conversations.
	So around Brexit, for example, I heard teachers talking to young people saying, I know it's awful, isn't it?
	It's a terrible situation that we're in.
	And that's expressing their anxiety and pushing it onto children.
	And around Donald Trump getting elected in America, or Boris Johnson in the United Kingdom, I heard similar conversations around, oh, you know, they don't care about the NHS, the National Health Service over here, or they don't care so much about, they're not compassionate, they're not supportive of people.
	And it's kind of this, It's a low level indoctrination that is very emotive and not based in any fact or evidence finding.
	It's all very kind of, this is what I feel.
	I'm a good person.
	So anyone who isn't like me is not a good person.
	Donald Trump, Boris Johnson are not good people.
	And we do counter that with truth and beauty.
	And I think that's what's missing in our education system.
	So if you look at the lessons, I looked at the most popular... In fact, I did a poll first.
	I did a poll in this country and found out, are teachers still using textbooks?
	The majority said no, they're not.
	They're downloading resources off the internet.
	Which of course is the first big warning sign, isn't it?
	We're not using fact-based books anymore, we're just downloading stuff off the internet.
	So I looked at the most popular teaching resource websites in this country that teachers are downloading the resources from, and the majority of them were infested with identity politics.
	So even if the teachers aren't left-wing, even if the teachers aren't purposefully indoctrinating or accidentally indoctrinating kids, the resources that they're getting to teach their lessons are full of the stuff.
	So you're right that we fight back with truth and first and foremost we need to fix the teacher training programs so we let teachers know it's not appropriate to pass on your personal or political views onto kids but then we fix the resources that they're using and make sure schools have textbooks again so that parents can pick up a textbook and see exactly what their child has been taught.
	And parents, you need to know.
	You need to know.
	Calvin, there is a reason we are witnessing the insanity of critical race theory, the aggressive transgender agenda that denies biology, the Covid mask mandates, the vaccine mandates, It's because this is a secular religion.
	When you deny the existence of God in the transcendental, as a French philosopher once said, you leave a God-shaped hole in the soul of a human being.
	And you have to fill it with something.
	That's the Green Movement.
	That's Extinction Rebellion and everything else.
	I know you're a man of faith and I think that is the long-term answer.
	There's a reason that this is a civilization based on transcendental values.
	Talk to us about the experience in the UK.
	How weak is the church and how much is Christianity and the faith basis of our civilization the answer to get back to where we need to be irrespective of skin color, social economic background or what have you.
	You're bang on the money here with this problem of lack of faith and I just want to touch on what you mentioned again about truth and beauty because beauty has also been left behind and I think this is almost by design.
	So across both of our nations we used to Admire beauty because beauty points our gaze towards God and that's what that's the whole point of beauty and I think it's Purposeful or it's by design that we've moved away from that.
	So take architecture as a prime example Everything that's built now is full of steel and glass and it's it's monstrous It doesn't inspire you and in fact, all it does is make you think what were you thinking when they built this and that is because everything now people are trying to be creative and To be creative you have to be destructive because you can't build and nothing is new in this world So rather than thinking how do we create the most beautiful building?
	that inspires people we think we think how do we create something that hasn't been done before and that's how we move away from God into secular nonsense and we see it with everything so in this country in particular the health care system is placed on a pedestal and during the first lockdown we all went out I say we all I didn't go up but many people went out on their doorsteps to clap for the NHS for the National Health Service and this was like it's a ritual and it's you know our politicians dead
	Criticise the NHS.
	They don't say anything negative towards it because it's become this cult of the health service.
	We were locked down in order to protect the NHS, whereas the health service surely should be protecting us as individuals.
	And you're right that all of this stems from, and identity politics too, stems from a lack of faith.
	Because people that believe in critical race theory, believe in it so adamantly that they can't even assess whether, you know, the people that call me House N-word, for example, they can't see that they're hypocrisy in their ways.
	They can't see that they are the ones being racist even though they call themselves anti-racist because they believe in it so blindly.
	It is a faith structure to them.
	and they can't edge away from it because it would destroy everything you know you take out one pin and everything falls down and that's what critical race theory and identity politics believes in because it's intersectionality it's a whole pyramid of beliefs are based on gender, based on race, based on every immutable characteristic that you can think of, and it essentially pits people against each other on purpose.
	This ugliness, this lack of beauty, this lack of truth is by design, it's Marxism, it's cultural Marxism, and this is why they always go for the family first and foremost.
	This is why they always start with our young people, with our children, and the indoctrination that's happening in schools is not by accident.
	So talk to us about what's happening in the UK, what you're seeing around the world.
	It's great to see the parents pushing back here in the United States.
	Are you seeing positive signs?
	I think the Anglican Church in the UK is maribund and I see interviews, BBC interviews with female bishops who are asked about the problem with Anglicans not having babies and she says on television Well, that's fine.
	You find more intelligent people don't have babies.
	It's like, are you listening to what you're saying?
	So you're actually happy that you're going to die out?
	I think Africa, personally, there are some amazing things happening with the churches in Africa, some very brave bishops and church leaders.
	Where are we going to find those who are prepared to promote truth and beauty, Calvin?
	That's a good question because out here in the Anglican Church in the United Kingdom we're not seeing that and you're right we do have this obviously this movement of we've got female priests and bishops over here which was the first mistake you know having the audacity to declare that our church can make a decision that the Universal Church has not made and decide that we'll go against thousands of years of doctrine and Christian teaching and just make a unilateral decision in order to seem progressive and liberal.
	That's what it was.
	It was a silly decision that shouldn't have been made but that was the first step.
	Now if you consider that most people that believe in Christian teaching and Christian doctrine will not believe in the ordination of women.
	Most traditionalists will not.
	Therefore, the progressives, the liberals, are the ones that do believe it.
	That is why the female bishops and the female priests tend to be more liberal in their theology, and that's why they're stepping away from traditionalist teaching.
	So as they climb the ladder, the church gets less and less Christian, and this is why probably the Church of England closed its doors to the faithful during the first lockdown, which I think was criminal.
	You know, we should never ever turn the faithful away from God, and God's house and access to the Blessed Sacrament all very very wicked but it all stems from this lack of faith in the faith and what we have is a secularization of the faith But you ask where we're going to find the people that are going to fight for truth and beauty, I don't know.
	Because, again, it's this silent majority.
	It's the people who sit in the pews in church, people in the congregations.
	I honestly believe, anecdotally, from speaking to most people I talk to, these are the normal folk with normal opinions.
	Christian values and British values and the things that we've been talking about.
	But it's the people in the hierarchy, the people that are preaching to them, that are the lefties and the liberals, that don't understand them and can't connect with them.
	So we need almost a form of entryism.
	That's what they did.
	That's what the social marxists did.
	Explain that.
	Explain entryism.
	So our teachers, our academics, our civil service, our priests and bishops, all the people in respectable positions in hierarchical systems have been replaced almost by People that see the world through this liberal progressive lens of identity politics, identitarianism, a critical race theory.
	They all fit together, but it's because they wanted to change the world in their image.
	And to do that, they understood they needed to take over these institutions.
	And we talk about, you know, the ridiculousness of institutional racism.
	That's not a thing.
	But what we do have is institutional Marxism.
	And to fight back, we need to do the reverse.
	We need to get good, conservative, Christian people in these positions of authority.
	To make sure that we stick to our values and make sure we bring them back into the centerfold.
	If you want to understand what Calvin's talking about, it really is the long march through the institutions.
	It's Rudi Deutschke, it's Antonio Gramsci.
	If you want to really understand how it happened in America, please check out a book that changed my life.
	It's Andrew Breitbart's book, Righteous Indignation.
	Especially chapter 3 that opened my eyes to how it happened.
	And I use that in my book, The War for America's Soul.
	Chapter 6 is the names, the places, the plans.
	So check out Andrew Breitbart's righteous indignation in my latest book, The War for America's Soul.
	I'm going to just say, Calvin, we've never met.
	I really hope we do get to meet.
	You are an inspiration.
	Not only because you did the toughest job in the world, which is to teach kids, but you're a man of color who's prepared to take the slings and arrows of not only speaking the truth, but speaking the truth as a public conservative individual.
	You know, I could have you on this show for hours.
	You are what we need more of on both sides of the Atlantic.
	And of course, as a kid who grew up under Thatcher, I love seeing a book on your shelf behind you with her face on the spine.
	I can see it right there.
	So I'm going to ask you to just open up in the last few minutes we have.
	Talk to all of our millions of listeners and viewers across the country, across the globe.
	What made you do what you do?
	Because you could have stayed a school teacher, just kept your opinions to yourself with your friends.
	What made you do what you do?
	And what is your message to those who feel browbeaten and intimidated?
	It's a very good question.
	So I feel like I am privileged.
	I have a platform, and it's my duty to use that platform to enable other people to earn the same privilege.
	So what I mean by that is that because I'm brown, I'm able to say things that white people aren't able to say anymore because we've shifted in the West so far to the left that even to mention someone's skin color is perceived as racism these days.
	So white people are disregarded from the whole conversation.
	So every time I bring something up from the right-wing perspective, from the Christian perspective, I'm giving someone else permission to do the same because I can get away with it without people automatically assuming I'm racist.
	I had this over Brexit.
	This is when I first learned this because I'm able to talk about immigration.
	When people look at me.
	You're allowed to, right?
	You're allowed because of your skin color, which is racist.
	Yeah, because they look at me, they say, oh, well, he's brown.
	So, okay, we can hear his thoughts on this.
	Whereas if you were to stand up and the first word you said was immigration, they'd be like, oh, he's one of those racists.
	As an immigrant, I'm not allowed to talk about immigration, because I'm white.
	It doesn't matter.
	Your history doesn't matter.
	The truth doesn't matter.
	It's your skin color and a superficial nonsense that matters to them.
	So this is why I do it.
	This is why over Brexit I talked so much about immigration.
	And this is why I talk so much about race, even though race bores me.
	I'm not interested in race, but I give other people permission to enter the conversation.
	And that's my privilege.
	So I'm using that.
	Was there a culminating moment?
	Was this a catalyst for you where you said, okay, damn it, I'm going to do it.
	Yeah, it was Brexit.
	It was because people in the staff room were talking about it and everyone was assuming that we'd all vote for Remain to remain as part of the European Union.
	I was like, well, no, because we are a sovereign nation and we shouldn't have our laws dictated from a foreign land.
	That's not, you know, we fought wars against that.
	You know, we fought to stop Germany taking over Europe and now we've given it them through the back door politically rather than through the military and nobody seemed to see it.
	And the whole argument about immigration, you know, people are still crossing the channel.
	People are still, every day in this country, people come over from France, which is a free country, a Western country, people come over and claim asylum.
	And I'm like, how is this allowed?
	How are we saying that people are leaving one safe nation to another and claiming that they're refugees?
	That surely is nonsense.
	But likewise, while we were part of the EU, anyone that lived in the EU had free entry into the UK.
	For me, that's nonsense because I know how hard it is to recruit teachers from Australia, doctors from India, nurses from Canada.
	It's so difficult.
	These are nations that we've had long histories with.
	A lot of them are part of the Commonwealth that we helped build.
	People can't come over here and work for us.
	People with the skills and talents that we need can't come over here.
	But people from the European Union, who have no skills and talents quite often, or low-paid workers taking away jobs and driving down wages for British workers, can.
	So that taught me that something in the balance was wrong and something needed to be addressed, and white people weren't able to have the conversation, so I entered the field to have it more.
	You know, people like Nigel Farage, fair play to him, he stood up and did it, but many people kept their heads down.
	So that is, you said, what would I say to people, to the masses, the people that are listening, My advice would be, stick your head above the parapet.
	We call ourselves the small See conservative silent majority for a reason because we're often silent.
	We let people, we let the white people get on with their nonsense.
	We think it doesn't affect us, but it does affect us.
	It changes our society.
	It changes the world around us.
	We've got to stop letting them.
	We've got to stand up and say, no, this country is a free country.
	I don't have to wear a mask if I don't want to.
	I don't have to get a vaccine if I don't want to.
	You're sure as hell not going to vaccinate my children.
	You're not going to teach them that there are more than two genders.
	You're not going to teach my kids that they're racist because they're white.
	You're not going to teach my kids that they're held back or victimized or oppressed because they're black and these are the values that we believe in.
	Christian values, Western values are okay.
	Democracy, the rule of law, these are things to be celebrated.
	The English language was promoted around the world on purpose.
	All of these things are great things.
	We need to stand up and say yes and claim them and not be afraid anymore and not let the liberal left push us around and claim that they're more progressive than we are because it doesn't matter because we know where they're right, we know they're wrong, but they think we are evil and we know that not to be the truth.
	So we need to spread truth and beauty around the world once again.
	Time for the silent majority to get noisy, that's what it sounds like to me.
	Let me ask you this as somebody who left the UK in 1993.
	Wow, it's been a while.
	Is the bulldog spirit still there?
	The guys, you know, the guys I was surrounded with, the The NCOs in the territorial army, the salt of the earth.
	When I was in college, in the summers, I was a furniture mover.
	I'd ride with guys across the country in a big truck and move furniture around.
	I loved it.
	The greasy spoon cafes in the morning.
	Is that spirit still there?
	Or can it be revivified?
	It is in a lot of places.
	The moment you leave the cities, you find it again.
	That British Bulldog spirit, as you called it.
	Absolutely, the stiff upper lip, the get on with your business and stop letting people be, you know, the work nonsense people to shrug it off.
	But when you're in the cities, you realize that things have changed dramatically.
	And our political system is based in London, in Westminster, of course, and that's all they see around them.
	And they see, you know, the rainbow flag everywhere.
	They see all of this, you know, all these people dying their hair blue and saying that they've got a different gender to their cat and dog, or I don't even know what it is they claim.
	But they see that as the norm.
	And what we need to do is get our politicians back out of that bubble, back into the real world.
	I've just spent a month up in the North East, which is really, really hardcore English, just normal folk with normal British opinions.
	And these are the everyday normal folk that we need our politicians to see more of.
	And for that to happen, again, they need to speak up.
	It's so easy to just let people get on with rubbish and say it doesn't affect me, but it does.
	We've got to realise that it does.
	All right, watch this guy, GB News, listen to him on talk radio out of the UK, follow him at Calvin Robinson on Twitter.
	I'm going to exploit the situation, your past history as a teacher, the fact that I think he's sitting in front of the, outside of my wife's library, I think that's the tidiest bookshelf I've ever seen.
	It's not just size-oriented, it's color-coded as well.
	So, give our listeners and viewers, what should they be doing?
	I always tell people of any age, I don't care what you want to be, switch the bloody phone off for at least an hour every day and read a book, and preferably a book that's more than a hundred years old, preferably a book that's a thousand or two thousand years old.
	What is your praxis?
	What is your practical advice to those listening who are interested in, oh, I don't know, truth and beauty, Calvin?
	I love that, that's a great suggestion because we just had a court case in the UK recently where we found that there was a white supremacist who was looking at Nazi things online and looking at how to create bombs and stuff online and the judge said to him You need to read and he gave him a canon of books like good proper English literature and said you need to read some books and it'll broaden your horizon.
	So I like your recommendation and I would say read something, you know, if you want something modern, Douglas Murray, The Madness of Crowds or anything about Thatcher's methodology or life in politics.
	So many, I can't, Roger Scruton, read any Roger Scruton book.
	Scruton, yes, on beauty especially, yes.
	Oh yes, but you know, the man could write about anything, but that will give you a core essence of what the Englishman is really and truly like at his core, away from all of the fluff that surrounds us.
	Fabulous.
	I think we're having Douglas Murray on next week because he's here in the US.
	But Roger Scruton and anything with regards to one of the greatest statesmen or statesperson of the world?
	No, don't change your language, Sebastian.
	Don't say statesperson.
	I know, I know.
	She's a statesman.
	Don't play that game.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	Stop it, Gawker!
	Behave!
	Behave!
	Greatest leader.
	I mean, just truly a woman who had larger spherical objects than most biological males do in politics today.
	That's how I'll end it.
	In the meantime, God bless you, Calvin.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First one-on-one.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.

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