It's the type of person and you get to recognize them rather rapidly over the years.
What about when you find somebody who, whenever they promise, actually delivers and delivers more than you expected and that's why no monologue today sorry guys i know it's friday when things are a little bit more flexible but no monologue at the top of this hour because i have an article that literally came out minutes ago and we have to discuss it with you it was teased he said it's gonna happen it's gonna drop And he delivered.
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John Solomon, welcome to America First.
Thanks, thank you for that very kind introduction.
So John, just a few days ago you had this story, emails by Hunter Biden that they were going to quote-unquote conquer a turbulent world, lobbying the Italian regional president, the French ambassador, targeting sovereign wealth funds to make money for themselves when his daddy was vice president.
But moments ago A far bigger story about the federal authorities having subpoenaed Hunter Biden during the 2016 election.
I've dipped into it in the seconds I had before the show.
Just one of these sentences that struck me.
Of the $27,778 that were paid every month to the company, portions were kicked back to an American Ukrainian who helped them land the job.
That sounds like small potatoes based upon the other things we've read in the article.
John, tell us what your readers, we're posting it right now, the minimum they need to know.
Yeah, listen, I think the most important thing about this story is it undercuts the primary argument that the Democrats had for impeaching President Trump.
Remember what the argument was when they impeached him over Ukraine.
The President abused his power because he asked for an investigation into Burisma Biden in Ukraine and Hunter Biden had not done anything wrong.
That was the line that Joe Biden downed the line.
Everybody said it.
Now we know In the summer and spring of 2016, Hunter Biden and his lawyers and his accountant and his corporate executives knew he had failed to pay taxes, not on just any money, the Burisma money.
He was getting about a million dollars of Burisma money in 2014 and 2015.
He's the vice president's son.
He doesn't pay taxes on him.
All of a sudden, a subpoena shows up in his office because his business partner, the guy he's in business with in Burisma and Rosemont, all these different ventures, Devin Archer, About to be indicted.
He's got to turn over all of his records.
And they're worried that Hunter Biden's going to get ensnared in that.
And they've got to find a story.
They call it a narrative.
They've got to find a narrative to explain why Hunter Biden didn't pay taxes on foreign money flowing into his account.
And then as they go through the story, they discover, oh, he's got this finder's fee.
He's kicking back to the guy who got him the board.
That's very rare for someone to be paying a monthly fee to keep their board seat on a board.
And it goes on, and you now see that when the Democrats looked in the camera, when Joe Biden looked in the camera and said, Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong, we know they knew, as far back as 2016, he failed to pay taxes.
Most Americans consider that unethical, improper, unlawful, and it probably explains why Hunter Biden is the focus of a federal investigation now.
I think these documents give us a sense of some of the problems he's facing.
Have any members, any organs of the legacy media reported on this, or do you expect them to report on the fact that the Vice President's son, who is now bearing the title of President, paid no taxes on the Burisma Ukrainian corrupt company payments?
Well listen, if Don Jr.
had gotten a subpoena, we would have been breaking news all over CN.
If Don Jr.
had not paid taxes, breaking news.
If Eric Trump had been paying a kicker to some foreigner to get some deal he got, it'd be breaking news on every channel you can imagine.
Flipping over, this story just came off the presses a few seconds ago, literally.
We'll have to wait and see, but the recent track record of the news media has not been good.
First, when they get a story wrong, they don't correct it.
When new revelations come out about the president that they are always cheering on, his ice cream eating, his vice president's giggles, they ignore anything that's negative.
We'll have to wait and see if they take this seriously.
Listen, this is Hunter Biden's own emails to his lawyers and his accountant.
These are the inner center thinkings of Hunter Biden.
There's not any doubt what Hunter Biden was doing.
Now, let's see if the media dig into it.
You are the expert.
You, along with the co-author of your recent book, Seamus Bruner, of all of these dealings, whether it's more than a billion dollars from the National Bank of Communist China to Hunter Biden's company, whether it is the 80,000 plus dollars every month from Burisma, whether it is what?
Is it three million dollars from the wife of the ex-mayor of Moscow?
For all of these services, What were they buying?
Let me ask the naive question.
Was there some product?
Was something manufactured?
Was there engineering services?
What are we talking about for these millions and millions and sometimes billions of dollars?
Or was this just buying connections, John?
Yeah, mostly buying connections.
Listen, the earlier story you mentioned that came out a couple days ago, Hunter Biden gets invited to a state dinner by his father.
He chums up with the French ambassador, and two days later, or a week later, he's calling the French ambassador.
It was so good to meet you at the dinner.
I got a business deal in France I need help with.
I got a partner in France who needs help.
That's what Hunter Biden was.
He was a Rolodex dialer of high and powerful people, and for that he got paid.
Now that's most of the things he did, was connections.
You know, Burisma clearly hired him to try to get the stain of their criminal investigations away from them.
And we're going to break some new news next week that will show exactly what Hunter Biden was doing, what he was directing to try to make those criminal investigations go away.
His private law firm.
So he goes in.
This is something very important that most people haven't picked up on.
He gets to be a board member as soon as he's a board member.
One of the first things he does is he hires himself as a private lawyer to his firm, Boy Schiller, and he gets another quarter million dollars kicked to his law firm, which by the way comes back to him.
He gets the payments for it.
So hang on, let's break this down.
He becomes a no-show board member on this corrupt Ukrainian energy company board and then after he becomes the board member he gets to hire his own law company?
And the money comes to him.
It gets earmarked to him through the Boies-Shiller law firm.
And the whole string of emails we're going to put out next week are going to show what was Boies-Shiller and Hunter Biden trying to do.
They were trying to influence these things that were causing the American government to think that Burisma was corrupt.
There were ongoing investigations in Britain, in Ukraine.
Our own embassy in Kiev believed it was a corrupt company.
And there's no doubt now why Hunter Biden was brought in.
It was to solve the corruption problem.
So, that's going to come out next week.
But everywhere he goes, there's a different mission.
When he goes to China, here's one that we forget about.
He helped the Chinese Communist government buy an iconic automaker in Michigan that made sensitive technology for our fighter pilots, and now that was technology because Hunter Biden facilitated the sale, got it through the CFIUS process, the approval of an important American asset to a foreigner, and now the Chinese own that company.
They control a company that used to make the most important windshields for our Air Force fighter pilots.
So at every different place, he's doing something.
But in most cases, it's enriching himself, and it's not helping the Americans.
His Burisma thing made the State Department mad because they believed he was undercutting corruption.
The China thing gave China our military technology.
He's not really helping the United States.
He's lining his pockets.
We've got seconds left.
Any theory, any plausible answer as to why he's getting subpoenaed for not paying his taxes, Hunter Biden, in 2016.
But when, when they raid Rudy Giuliani's house a few weeks ago, the FBI don't want Hunter Biden's laptops.
Any explanation for that, John?
I actually do.
They have this laptop and the documents I'm referring to have been in the possession of the FBI since December 19.
They've been working this very hard.
They didn't need it.
They had it.
That's the real honest answer.
They had it!
But with what consequences?
That's the question.
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There we go.
Mic's on.
Alright.
So... What happened there?
It was a TriCaster glitch.
By itself?
It just changed the image?
For a split second, yeah.
One of the fades was turned up for some reason.
I fixed it.
Alright, just texted Trish.
Alright.
Standing by.
There, I see the call coming in.
Hello?
Hello!
Hello!
Mic's alive.
Okay, good!
This worked.
Greetings.
Um, yeah, do I, do I sound okay?
Yes.
You can hear me?
Okay.
Sounds great.
Two and a half minutes.
Yes.
You've read the Deutsche Bank story, right?
Oh, yeah.
We were one of the first to report it.
The one on inflation, right?
Good, yeah.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about G7 and the 15% tax.
Anything else that's front burner for you?
The 15% tax is crazy.
I'm getting a little feedback.
Is that supposed to be?
It should not be an issue.
Eric, are you sending her her own audio?
No, although regular routing channels have been cleared.
Are you getting feedback just when you talk or when we talk as well?
I'm getting feedback when I talk, but only when I talk.
Can you manage?
Yeah.
This is an issue that our Skype system has had in the past.
Interesting.
Not necessarily our Skype system.
Might just be the way that some settings are interacting with each other.
Eric?
Yes?
Is there any, well, I know that you don't know how to fix this solution, or you don't have a solution to this issue, but if you could put a ticket in with Madska or something, because this hasn't gone away.
Yeah.
Now, it seems that we're on speaker.
Is that OK?
Because I can't, it's really, really loud.
So the speakerphone is all right?
You can hear me OK?
You're on speakerphone?
What do you mean by that?
Well, I'm on speaker.
I'm not like holding the thing right up to my ear.
Because for some reason you guys are super loud.
Yeah, that would be volume on your end.
Yeah.
No, it's not actually.
You're using Skype through your phone.
Yeah.
As long as you can hear me all right.
Yeah, you're fine.
Yeah, we can hear you.
It's fine.
Yeah.
All right.
60 seconds.
What else is on my mind?
I mean, look, you know, Kamala Harris.
I don't know how much you guys have been doing with her.
It's just awful.
But G7.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I mean, between Jill Biden the other day.
Jill, that is.
Apparently she's prepping.
And have you seen all the camera opportunity?
I guess she's prepping for her meeting with the Royals.
Whether or not Joe Biden will fall down the stairs again.
It's not going too well.
Have you heard of something called the Royal Air Force?
Everybody knows what the Royal Air Force is, except for Joe Biden.
Cut to ten.
These partnerships and a partner in heaven are a new trial of war.
A generation in America has served smoothly and thoughtfully.
Like the original bloody hundreds.
Those RFA pilots.
Those RFA pilots.
Just like that Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco.
Am I right?
But whatever's happening, it can't be as bad as Kamala Harris with her interview with Univision.
Cut 9!
¿Cómo le responde usted a él?
I said I'm gonna go to the border.
And I... When are you going to the border, Vice President?
The administration has asked...
I'm not finished.
I said I'm going to the border.
I'm not finished.
Trish Regan, have you ever said that to somebody in an interview?
I haven't finished!
Trish?
It's a good question.
It's great to see you or talk with you, as always, Seb.
It's a good question.
I don't believe I have.
And, you know, look, you're vice president of the United States of America.
It's just unbecoming.
The whole interview, it was like, come on, come on.
You know what?
Just go to the darn border, for goodness sake.
Stop, you know, giving excuses.
Stop refusing to answer questions.
I mean, she can't even sit down and do an interview with Lester Holt.
My goodness.
I mean, if there's no, you know, somebody who's really in the camp for her, it's not like she was, you know, talking to you or me, Seb.
No.
She was talking to Lester Holt from NBC and she couldn't even manage that.
I suspect that what this really showcases is her immaturity, if you would, and her lack of seasoning, her inability, you know, frankly, just, you know, she's not as qualified as you really need for that job.
Let me just tell you, Mike Pence never would have pulled that.
No, I can't think of an instance where he snapped at an interviewer quite like that.
I think it also comes from a sense of an inferiority complex, because she knows she's not fit for that office.
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We've got to talk about the Deutsche Bank report, but first the G7.
The biggest thing to come out of that is this asinine concept of a 15% tax for the world.
I'm not an economist.
Let's leave it to the professional.
Your take on the 15% tax for the world.
Asinine is a perfect way to describe this idea.
Look, instead of Offering a more competitive landscape for American companies right here at home, thereby attracting more business and more capital.
What are they doing?
They're like, okay, we're gonna up taxes on everyone, but maybe that won't really work because a lot of companies, and we saw this, by the way, during the Obama years, I used to call them shotgun marriages, right?
Suddenly, an American company's buying a company from Ireland and relocating there.
There were all these mergers.
tax inversion mergers, as they were known.
Anyway, Seb, they know that companies are gonna relocate overseas, so what's the answer?
Oh, we'll just up taxes all over the world.
The only problem is they've only got their sort of cool kids on the block signed on to this, right?
So G7 can sign on to this noble idea that we're just gonna tax everyone all over the world, 15%.
So what is that going to do?
Just send jobs to Honduras and Guatemala?
Kamala wants them there anyway because you can operate still in plenty of other countries.
You're taking away the ability for American companies to really compete here at home, thereby driving more jobs still overseas.
When are they going to wake up?
When are these people going to understand when it's about profits, when it's about national interests, it's about commercial interests?
Kumbaya does not apply.
The Paris Accords were the same.
We're going to strap ourselves with limits.
We're going to pay China and Russia not to pollute, but they're still going to pollute.
How is this going to work when it comes to tax rates?
Yeah, well, China's gonna love this, right?
Yes!
If I'm China, I'm sitting here going, haha, G7, glad I'm not part of that.
Right?
I mean, that's just, look, they've gotta love this because we're doing this once again, Seb.
to ourselves.
It's like we are our own worst enemy.
And this really goes back to fundamentally a difference in how they see the world, right?
Instead of thinking we can grow the pie for all, you know, everybody can benefit here in America if we just really grow our opportunities back here at home.
They see it as business is bad and therefore must be taxed and you need to redistribute wealth.
I mean, this is a fundamental Philosophical difference!
Yeah.
Inflation.
You've been warning us about inflation.
Tell us what our millions of listeners need to know about this doom and gloom report from Deutsche Bank.
Oh, sure.
Well, Deutsche Bank just echoing what I've been saying now for months.
I mean, I have been harping on this all the way back to January when we started getting some inflationary signs.
I mean, look, you cannot have a situation and Deutsche Bank said this very well in the analyst report that came out this week.
You can't have a situation.
That's so reckless, right?
Where you have monetary and fiscal policy all at work at the same time, so aggressively.
So we have a Federal Reserve that has left rates really, really low for frankly, way too long.
And they've been effectively printing money by buying up bonds, right?
So that they help suppress and keep interest rates low.
Thank goodness, because my gosh, if interest rates were really where they ought to be, I mean, we're all dealing with Twenty eight trillion dollars in debt.
Just imagine, you know, if interest rates were somewhere around four or five, six percent, we'd really be paying through the nose.
So they've kept interest rates so low, but they're doing this at a time when actually the economy is, you know, Kind of just managing to get back on its own.
And when it manages to get back on its own and people start going out to eat again and they start going back to work again and they start going to the movies again and buying clothes and doing all the things that American consumers do because you know we love to consume.
It's two thirds of our overall GDP consumption.
So Americans go back and they consume while simultaneously the Fed prints money and Joe hands out checks and says don't bother going to work.
You can sit home on the couch and earn plenty.
Well, then that's a recipe, frankly, for major inflation.
And that was the read we got on CPI.
The Consumer Price Index showed that prices went up on an annualized basis 5%.
That's way ahead of what the Federal Reserve likes to target, which is normally 2%.
Are we talking potential stagflation as well?
I'm worried about it because I don't see how the economy can continue growing at such a pace.
If people are incentivized to sit home on the couch, and you and I have talked about this before, I mean, you can't have a situation where the government pays you for that so much, for so long.
Travel across America, talk to people who are trying to employ workers, especially in the service industry, and in those states where they haven't stopped the benefits It's really, really hard.
People are staying at home.
That's not how you build anything.
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with all the public policy debates that are taking place right now, that the Republican Party would be engaged in a significant debate about how are we going to deal with the economy, and what are we going to do about climate change, and what are we going to do about...
Lo and behold, the single most important issue to them apparently right now is critical race theory.
Who knew that that was the threat to our republic?
Critical race theory.
Oh, don't worry about it.
It's fine.
Says one of the most divisive presidents on the matter of race in recent history, Barack Hussein Obama.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Very special guest, When your muse says, I need to come on your show, you say, of course you do, my dear.
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I think I was working.
I couldn't be part of this.
Teleconference you did this, this video stream with an amazing speaker, more than a thousand people tuned in, Waddy Bock, and we're going to talk about the topic that he discussed.
But first things first, Katie, welcome, and who is this person you invited to stream on your conference?
Yeah, Vaughty, Vaughty Baucombe.
So he is a pastor, he's a professor, he's been around for a long time, I guess my understanding is he's well known in the homeschooling community.
He's a father of nine.
But what makes him also very, very interesting is the fact that even though he is a Christian, he is also a professor of sociology.
So he has a very deep understanding of critical race theory, its Marxist roots, He said he started alerting the community to CRT back as early as 2005, and they just sort of poo-pooed him and said, oh, you know, what are you talking about?
This isn't a big deal.
Like Obama.
Exactly.
And then, of course, look at where we are today.
So, I mean, I think he's one of our best experts on it.
What I liked about him, we are all hearing so much about what's happening with CRT in the schools, but we're not hearing as much about what's happening in the church.
Well, this is why I said you've got to come on this show, because you said to me that CRT, Critical Race Theory, this racist Marxist ideology that we've been covering, it's infection of our schools with people are finally talking out parents and a teacher yesterday.
I get that, but I didn't even know it was an issue in the churches.
So what did he say?
So it's a massive issue in the church, actually, and there's a lot of history to this.
I mean, one of the most interesting stories that he tells, and I should mention his book, which I think if you're going to read one book on critical race theory, you read this, Fault Lines, the Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism's Looming Catastrophe.
Along with, may I add, James Lindsay's Cynical Theories.
That gives you the big picture historic, okay, we've had him on the show, James Lindsay's Cynical Theories.
Voddie Bolcom, that's V-O-D-D-I-E, And then his last name B-A-U-C-H-A-M, and it's Fault Lines.
The social justice movement, that's, you know, the broader environment, and evangelicalism's looming catastrophe.
So what did you and your thousand audience members learn yesterday?
So he tells a fascinating story in the book.
He's part of the Southern Baptist Convention and he tells a story about their annual meeting back in 2000, I think in 2019, and there was a resolution put forward which was actually condemning critical race theory and somehow over the course of time it got completely rewritten to support critical race theory.
And then it was passed without anybody knowing.
It was passed and nobody dared challenge it.
And this is the problem he talked about yesterday.
And we've seen this happen so many times.
The problem is if it's an African-American who rewrites in favor of critical race theory, nobody's willing to stand up to it because they're afraid they're going to be accused of being racist.
Right.
And so it passed.
Now, thankfully, the leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention, just a year later, wrote a letter sort of changing their position.
So I think things are on a better track.
But, you know, I find it just fascinating.
Just yesterday, somebody posted on my Facebook page, who goes to our local mega church, that they've gone totally woke.
So it's happening everywhere.
Not just the schools.
Not just now the military.
It is invading our churches.
Understand the threat of critical race theory which comes from people who say that they are Marxist.
It's the same ideas that drive BLM and Antifa.
The idea that based upon your skin colour You are a bigot.
It is the most bigoted philosophy that affects us today.
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You can talk, but everybody's listening on Rumble.
So don't be rude.
All 1,600 of them.
Yeah, 1,600 people are watching right now.
So what did you want to say?
But I want to talk about the distinction that he makes between whether CRT is a worldview or an analytic tool, because I think that's the biggest takeaway from his talk.
It's a little wonky.
No, it's not, though.
Wonky?
Is that wonky, Shad?
Is that wonky?
Professor Shad?
I want to hear her explanation.
So it's it's it's how Obama can be so dismissive of it.
And what a lot of people do, they dismiss it and they say, well, CRT provides a useful lens through which to look at racism.
But what Vaughty-Bockham says is, no, it is an entire worldview that wants to take down our system.
I will allow you.
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Thank you.
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Wonderful last name you have there.
I like that name.
Katie, you are discussing the Threat of critical race theory in our churches, not just our schools in the military.
And the person you had this massive, where can people, can people watch this video conference?
Absolutely.
I'm so glad you asked.
Yes, they can.
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And when you go online, it'll be one of the first ones that pops up and they're going to ask you to plug in your name and email address, but you can watch it.
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Yesterday's, what do they call it, video conference?
Webinar is the word.
Webinar from Voddy Borkum.
But he made a point you want to share with our viewers that is kind of the cloaking that CRT has given, but it's all a lie.
Explain what Voddy shared with you.
Yeah, so I mean, it goes back to the quote you played from Obama, where he's sort of dismissive of conservatives for being concerned about critical race theory.
And one of the things you hear often today is, well, maybe it's Marxist, but it can also be a useful analytical tool through which to look at race.
And Bauckham just completely dispenses with that argument.
He says, CRT Cannot be an analytic tool because it is an entire worldview.
And the point about this worldview is it wants to take down everything that is foundational to the United States.
Our conceptions of equality, the rule of law.
All of this it wants to take down and replace with its, you know, Marxist conceptions of a brave new world.
And for this reason as well, he said, this is why there cannot be room for CRT in the church because it's fundamentally opposed to a biblical worldview.
Right.
This isn't fractional equations.
This isn't long division.
This is a worldview that postulates that white people are always racist and there has to be a redistribution of power based upon race.
Class didn't work.
Now it's race.
It isn't a theory.
It isn't a tool.
It is a racist ideology.
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I want to play this because it fits in perfectly.
This is G. Van Fleet at the Loudoun County Board, Education Board meeting, talking about CRT and its relationship to what her family experienced.
This is Video Cut 5.
Play cut.
I just want to let the American people know that what's going on in our school and in our country is really a replay of the Cultural Revolution in China.
And I want people to see there are similarities, and the similarities are terrifying.
They use the same ideology and same methodology, even the same vocabulary, and with the same goal.
The ideology is cultural Marxism, and we were divided into groups as oppressor and oppressed.
And here we use race, and there they use class.
And the people here who have a different review were labeled racist.
But in the Cultural Revolution, the label is counter-revolutionary.
So it is a hat that fits all.
And once the hat is on your head, your life is ruined.
Isn't it fascinating, Katie, as somebody who's lived and traveled through post-communist Central and Eastern Europe, that the teacher who spoke up at Loudoun County that we had on the show yesterday, Lilit Navezian, she's from Armenia, from a post-Soviet republic.
This parent from Loudoun County talks about her family suffering in communist China.
Why is it immigrants from dictatorships who have to tell us the truth?
Well, and I'll tell you something else that I'll bet even you don't know.
What?
What?
And this is something that I also learned from Vaughty Bauckham from his book, and this blew me away.
You know, we look at 1989 as a banner year in the freedom movement.
That was the year of the Tiananmen massacre, and that was the year that the Berlin Wall fell.
But you know what else Vaughty says?
That was the year that a lot of this originated, because that was the year of a seminal conference held by Derrick Bell.
I knew that, I knew that.
We did not.
I did because you told me yesterday.
So some of the key works that are now the foundation for critical race theory came out in 1989.
Were planted at the same time that we thought we won.
Yeah, I know.
We have work to do.
Critical race theory is the new communist Marxist threat to this nation.
But it's not out there.
It's not in the Warsaw Pact.
It's not in some submarine under the Atlantic.
It is in our schools, in our military.
It is in our educational institutions from kindergarten all the way up to post-grad.
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You do happy all the time.
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Jeff, are you always happy?
He just hides it well.
We're not just warriors, right?
It's Friday.
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Therefore, he's happy?
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Cut.
Six.
Six.
What is it?
What's on it?
The same woman, but what she actually said at the county meeting.
Van Fleet, the woman.
Because that was on Fox.
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It's an immigrant.
Of course it is.
Let's listen to her.
Cut.
Six.
And the vocabulary is even the same.
Wokeness.
And to be specific, we use class wokeness.
In Chinese, it is 阶级觉悟.
Your level of wokeness determines your chance to get promotion or to get benefit.
And who decides your level of wokeness?
It is the party leaders.
Shocking.
Shocking.
Even the terminology is the same.
Katie, are we winning this war?
Will we win?
What's it going to take?
I have to tell you, I think we're winning this war.
What are the signs?
Well, this has been an incredible week.
Just some of the people that you've had on the show this week, all the people that you're playing who've stood up, who aren't going to take it anymore.
Vaughty Baucom has written this beautiful book.
He's speaking up about the church.
I'm feeling really encouraged.
I actually think we're seeing a renaissance in this country.
I think we're seeing the rebirth of civil society.
You know it's it's the one for me the one good thing that came out of Trump not winning is that people now cannot expect that they will be saved by Washington and I think Americans across this country are standing up to take back their country and to affirm the ideas that this nation was built on.
Your message to those who just listen to talk radio or watch TV at night and get riled up and Maybe feel intimidated?
What is your message to them?
Well, I know what your message is.
Your message is everybody needs to be a fighter.
I'm a little bit more forgiving.
I don't think everybody's cut out to be a fighter, but I think we all need to do something.
We all need to do something.
I'm just saying I don't think we're all cut out to stand up in front of the school board, but I wish more people would.
I think people need to stand up in their churches, in their schools, to their friends, Critical race theory is going to tear this nation apart if we don't shut it down now.
What is it?
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When somebody sends you the kind of article I was sent this morning, you are very, very happy to be able to reach out to them and immediately lock them in to discuss it, because he's not only the author of the article, he is the legal and political analyst for Fox News, the author of Witch Hunt and The Russia Hoax, and we trust him to give us the analysis on the matters swamp-like And to do with corruption in the DC swamp.
He's Greg Jarrett.
Greg, welcome back to America First.
Hey, Sebastian.
Good talking to you as always.
Now, I just hate it when people write these milquetoast articles with these completely soft headlines like Dr. Anthony Fauci should be criminally investigated.
So, please, can you just up your game a little bit, Greg?
In the meantime, follow me at Greg Jarrett on Twitter.
So, we've had all kinds of contradictory reports about Money to Wuhan, no money to Wuhan, gain of function research, no gain of function research.
Why have you made this very declarative statement today with your article that we are posting now on our Twitter and Facebook feeds?
Because it strikes me that there's compelling evidence he lied when he testified last month before the U.S.
Senate that the roughly 600,000 that he funneled through a third party To the Wuhan laboratory in China that was doing this dangerous, you know, pathogenic research, genetic enhancement of bad coronaviruses.
He said it was never used for that.
Well, it looks like it really was.
Take a look at his emails.
He was warned early on that that's what was going on.
He was furious about it.
Not curious because the money had been used for such reverse genetics that may have led and triggered the pandemic.
He was curious because, you know, he might be found out.
What am I going to do about it?
And so instead of telling the truth and coming clean, he engaged in a year-long cover-up and instead trying to blame it On, you know, a sort of bat soup that was conjured up from ingredients sold in a wet market, and yet there was no evidence of that then, and none now.
After thousands of tests, no infected bat population has been identified, no animal host has been found.
Instead, very top-notch virologists seem to have now come together and said, if you look closely, At the contents of the COVID-19 virus, you will find a genetic sequence, fingerprints, left behind.
The infamous double CGG.
And that does not find itself in nature, but only in a laboratory when scientists manipulate cells to make them more virulent and contagious.
So it doesn't, it strikes me that Fauci was not telling the truth.
At the very least, which by the way is perjury and it's a crime.
Let me ask you, Greg, what did Roger Stone go to prison for?
Well, lying to Congress and, you know, lying to the federal government when he was interviewed.
And same thing with Michael Cohen making a false and misleading statement.
So at the very least, Fauci was misleading Congress.
It's an equivalent crime to perjury five years behind bars.
So there needs to be a criminal investigation of Fauci.
And how significant, if there were such a criminal investigation, are the emails that were accessed via a FOIA application last week, in which a year ago, a year ago, the highest paid federal bureaucrat, Anthony Fauci, is told by a scientist that the gene code of the coronavirus looks like it is in fact engineered and not, quote, evolutionary.
Because he said exactly the opposite for the whole time since that email.
Could those emails be used as evidence against him?
Yeah, they absolutely could be.
And by the way, the most pivotal email of all is fully redacted.
Why is that?
Is it because that particular email contains incriminating information of his complicity In contributing money that may have caused the pandemic, so an investigation would, you know, unveil the contents of that redacted email.
You know, it's not just the emails.
Go back as far as 2012, there's a YouTube video in which Fauci is describing gain of function as reverse genetics.
Take a look at the grant of the money he gave to Wuhan lab.
It says it's designated for reverse genetics.
So it's pretty clear that the money went to gain-of-function reverse genetics.
It says so literally in the grant, which makes it look pretty clear that Fauci appears to have lied to Congress.
Now, I have to make this comment as somebody who's lived in that world, has his clearances.
These are open emails.
These are what are called low-side emails on an unsecured server.
None of them should be redacted.
The only reason for redaction is if there is national security information that affects sources and methods.
Well, hang on a second.
Anthony Fauci has nothing to do with the intelligence communities and sources and methods.
So why are these redacted at all, Greg?
It's inexplicable.
They didn't offer an explanation.
You know, oftentimes what the government does is the first thing they do when you send a FOIA request over is they just automatically deny it.
And they often don't provide a reason for it.
They compel you to spend a lot of money with lawyers in court to fight for months and months to obtain this information.
And then their second modus operandi is to redact a lot of the important material, which makes you go back to court and spend more money with lawyers to get them to cough up what they should have provided to begin with.
It's a cat-and-mouse game.
It's unconscionable.
It's not what lawyers should do.
It's certainly not what our own government should be doing.
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That's two G's, two R's, two T's.
The author of The Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt.
And as the author of those two superlative works on the corruption in the swamp and what we had to witness for the last five years, I'm going to ask you the obvious question.
Is there any point You're absolutely right.
You know, I have zero confidence in the Joe Biden Department of Justice under Merrick Garland.
We have seen time and again a two-tiered system of justice.
who are associated with the reigning regime covered in a coat of Teflon and cast iron?
You're absolutely right.
You know, I have zero confidence in the Joe Biden Department of Justice under Merrick Garland.
We have seen time and again a two-tiered system of justice.
If you're, you know, on the opposite side of the fence, if you're a Republican or a conservative or remotely associated with Donald Trump, they'll come after you with a vengeance.
It is.
If you are on the opposite side, a Democrat or a Liberal or a Progressive, you can act with impunity and no consequences.
Yeah.
While I've got you on the line, I have to play this cut for you.
This is from Peter Navarro, former White House colleague.
This morning on WMAL, audio cut to play cut.
Fauci, I want to tell you this.
The Situation Room is hallowed ground at the White House, Larry.
Hallowed ground.
And I met that SOB in the Situation Room at a meeting with the task force with Vice President Michael Pence present.
And I went head to head with that SOB.
And all, not the vice president, I'm talking about Fauci now, went head to head with him and all he said, kept repeating over and over again, there's only anecdotal evidence.
And I slapped down over 100 pages worth of scientific studies in front of that little twerp.
And he just kept holding his line.
And here's the punchline, Larry.
He did everything, everything possible.
to stop the use of hydroxychloroquine, including pressuring one of the weakest bureaucrats I've ever met, Steve Hahn, who was the commissioner of the FDA.
Hahn, Janet Woodcock at the FDA, Anthony Fauci, and that media basically participated in what we now believe, based on all of this evidence, was effectively the negligent homicide of probably over 50,000 Americans.
We've got 10 seconds left, Greg Jarrett.
Could he be in even bigger hot water if he blocked the use of a successful drug to prevent deaths?
Yeah, I think he could.
Look, I've always called him Fauci the fraud.
I interviewed him at the outset of the pandemic, thought, you know, he was an incompetent fool.
Now I think he's both an incompetent fool and mendacious.
Mandacious, incompetent, and he should be investigated.
We're posting the article again right now on our Twitter and Facebook feeds.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, and you've been listening to Greg Jarrett.
Thank you.
Not Jimmy?
No, he's a little Jimbo.
Little Jimbo!
So I guess that makes me Big Jimbo.
Big Jimbo.
Which is better than Young Jimbo.
So cool.
How's the mother?
Uh, everybody's fine.
He's gonna have heart surgery, but we knew that going in.
Yeah.
So for, like, grandson for America and the world.
When, when, how long can they wait before they do that?
Oh no, they'll probably do it this weekend.
But they've known about it since, you know, forever.
So yeah.
So yeah, so yeah, I'm, I'm pretty, he looks great though.
He looks healthy.
Good color.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's just resting comfortably.
What weight was he?
He was, he looks, they said five and a half.
He, I thought he was bigger.
I thought so too.
I thought he looked like a monster, but maybe it's just the hang on and stuff.
You wanted to hear Dr. G's?
Very cool.
Um, give me another one of the kids.
Okay.
Uh, Savannah?
Savannah.
The OG one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are we going to talk G7?
Are we going to talk Iran?
What else is on your mind?
Well, G7, you know, I think the big story that nobody talks about is for Biden, foreign policy is just an excuse to legitimatize what they want to do domestically.
Interesting.
Good.
All right.
That's, I think, the angle.
How does it feel to be a grandfather?
I feel, actually, for a lot of personal reasons, four, five, six, actually.
Wow.
One's got two, and one's got five.
So, no.
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It's Friday, it's national security, it's foreign policy, with Jim, who is now Big Jim, right?
Right, as Big Jimbo.
Big Jimbo!
As opposed to Little Jimbo.
Are we going to have to change your chyron?
It's no longer, it's Jimbo, Big Jimbo.
Yeah, let's not do that.
Congratulations, Grandad!
No, thank you.
I appreciate that.
All right.
It's very exciting.
Big news.
You've shown me the picture.
Very cute.
Little Jimbo and now Big Jimbo.
We've got to talk G7.
We've got to talk what Iran's doing.
Colleagues, you and I, we used to teach at National Defense University.
I don't want to go all wonkish on our millions of listeners and viewers, but there are different ways of looking at the world.
And one of them, one of the IR schools, International Relations Theory, looks at, you know, multilateralism and international organizations.
If you want to be derisive, it's the Kumbaya school.
The G7 seems to be falling into the trap of that Kumbaya school, where you're saying seven countries say that all nations should have a flat 15% dollar tax, a 15% tax.
But if there's only seven of you in the room, Does that smack of lack of realism, Jim?
There's 200 countries in the world.
There is.
They're not actually imposing a 15% corporate tax.
They're going to start a conversation about a 15% corporate tax, which, of course, the other countries in the world will use as advertising to come move to my country.
Exactly.
But here's the point about this, which is if you scratch under a lot of these people, and I would put Biden in this camp, you will find Machiavelli hiding in the corner in the shadows.
I think Biden's internationalism is less about true, I believe, in global governance and more about, I believe, in a progressive world.
And how can I use this international foreign policy to give me legitimacy in the United States?
So I actually think it is...
So it's a reverse.
I actually think he's using foreign policy and this thing about should everybody in the world shake hands and using it as legitimization to drive radical domestic policies here at home.
So we've already seen this once.
with signing the Paris Accord.
Yes.
We didn't have to sign the Paris Accord.
We were actually, I think, doing better than a lot of countries.
But Biden had an incredibly radical domestic energy agenda.
And by signing the Paris Accord, which requires for a named contribution from each country, that Biden could then name or just how we would make that contribution.
And that would be all we have to do this because we have to meet our commitments under the Paris thing and all kinds of radical stuff.
I think it's the same thing here.
Biden wants to raise corporate taxes.
Biden believes that corporate taxes are an instrument to drive economic growth, even though we know that actually corporate taxes are actually vampires about a society.
And he will use this discussion about, well, of course, we have to have responsible corporate taxes to push for higher one metric.
This is 15 percent.
We're already.
So here's the idiocy here.
We're already way above 15%.
Right.
America is.
Right.
And the notion that the rest of the world is just going to fall in the line and do this is nonsense.
But it gives it an excuse to come back and say, well, there's global consensus that corporate taxes are an important part of the economy.
So this is the sugarcoating of the bitter pill.
You use the international platform to try and make your domestic legislation look copacetic.
You know who else did this?
Who?
Little guy named, actually he was a little guy, named Woodrow Wilson, the father of internationalism.
Who was actually the father of the American administrative state who believed in this idea of government doing everything and using government to restructure society and using the excuse, well, if we are part of global governance, that just means that government is good, right?
So I think this, you know, it's funny how these internationalists are all international until the international or multinational people do something they don't like.
All of a sudden it's like, well, yeah, except for that.
So there's no consistency?
No, there is consistency.
They're all little Machiavellis at heart.
You're really positing deep, deep strategic forethought in these things.
Um, no, because I actually think our president's an empty suit.
And, you know, and look, and I don't say, because I, no, no, I am not the conspiratorial guy here, but I, I am starting to believe that government is run by a small cabal of unelected officials who answer to Obama and George Soros.
I'm, I'm really starting to believe that.
So you mean, um, the, the bureaucrats or the people like Rice who don't have to be congressionally confirmed?
The people in the White House who don't have to be congressionally confirmed, who can pick up the phone and tell a cabinet secretary what to do.
And if the cabinet secretary doesn't like it, they can call the president.
Well, this is really interesting.
Because so many people have said he doesn't run anything.
I mean, he had a close on Thursday last week.
What do they call it when they have a lid on Thursday?
Thursday?
Wednesday?
It was nuts.
So where's the center?
This Klein guy doesn't impress me.
Is it Rice?
Where do you see the central gravity for decision-making?
I mean, I don't know, since this may shock you, but I've been invited into the Biden White House lately.
You've got to believe, I mean, you have to believe that Rice is a quarterback for all this, right?
I mean, and then if you look for, you know, and then you've got these little pockets of people, you know, it's funny because my guy, you know, our diagram for this, who are the people who are really driving immigration and border policy?
And I'm going, I never heard of these people.
And that's right.
And if they have their way, you never will.
But literally, these are open border advocates who are molded, funded, brought up, nurtured, raised by George Soros.
And they are brought into the White House and they just decide what the policy is.
Look, there's no evidence.
There's no evidence that any of the big things Iran border taxes are driven by a White House process.
A deliberative.
And the reason for that is these things are pushed like lightning in a bottle.
And then everything else, if you ask anybody, talk to the international, everything else is under review.
We're thinking about it.
It's not a policy process like we had with the national security strategy.
It's ideological actors pushing through the pet projects they've had for years, if not decades.
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What about this Jake Sullivan guy?
What do you know about him?
Not much.
I mean, it's nuts.
He seems like an empty suit, too.
But this is the Nash of security advice.
It blows my mind.
I think he's a complete empty suit.
What do you think he said the other day?
I was like gobsmacked that he said that.
I can't remember.
I don't remember what it was, but it was one of these things like... What?
I think the NSC's... I think it's all in the rice and the cabal and stuff, and the NSC's just there to... Push paper.
Yep.
Hey Jeff, what did I ask Tatiana for that was for Katie, was it?
The short clip.
Yeah, but what did I... It was for Katie, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So all serious today?
No movies or anything?
Hey, we didn't even know.
You know, Jim.
By the way, Tatiana, did she send you the questionnaire they sent out to all of her students?
All the students in the school district after the school board?
I saw a text.
I haven't opened it yet.
One of the questions was, what do you think of the behavior of the parents at the school board meeting?
Wow.
Can you print that?
Is it printable?
Is it a screen cap?
I can send you a screen cap of it.
Okay.
So what are we going to talk about?
What's there to say?
Well, let's talk about the border because Morgan was in the studio and he got really excited.
Oh, I bet.
Jesus.
Yeah, I just love that.
My favorite thing is just listening to this guy on WTV.
Well, there's only a 1% increase.
What?
Yeah.
What?
Well, okay.
So, Yeah, he's saying there's only 1% increase from last month.
Well, last month was a historic record.
It was an 800% increase from a year ago.
Okay, yeah.
So it's only an 801.
It's like, what?
And they say, yes, but the number of this are down.
I go, well, what does it matter?
The gross numbers are out of control.
Why do you listen to WTOP is the question.
Because that's what we listen to.
Because we get news and weather.
Because he forgot to touch his dial.
Yeah, he forgot to touch his dial.
I don't know why we get traffic.
You don't listen to Larry?
He's got the morning show, Larry O'Connor.
Does he?
Yeah, they shifted him.
When did they do that?
This month.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that.
Larry O'Connor's USA.
I was telling you, I do eight weekly radio shows.
Twelve, no, sorry, twelve.
I do twelve weekly radio shows.
Wow, I thought we were special.
You are special.
That's impressive.
So who are the others?
You, Piscopo?
You're Piscopo, right?
Well, you know, they don't have a weekly hit, but I usually wind up doing them every week anyway.
He's great.
He's so funny.
He is.
It's hard to keep it straight.
I think talk radio is the only thing we have.
It's the only thing we have.
And it's a big thing.
It is.
Oh, did you get the contact details from Morgan for that sheriff?
I will.
Bug him.
him.
We need to get him on the show.
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We had your colleague, the superb Mark Morgan in studio.
Was it yesterday?
Day before?
Former Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.
And he was, I mean, he's always passionate, Jim, but yesterday he was...
It was very robust.
It was passionate.
Well, look, there's a reason for that in two parts.
One is because Mark Morgan is the definition of a selfless service.
This guy's had a complete adult life in law enforcement, serving people and making their lives better.
And the other thing is they accomplished so much in their tenure under the Trump administration about solving all the ugly side of this debate about immigration and border security, battling the cartels, securing the border, reducing ill immigration, dealing with all the abuses, reducing ill immigration, dealing with all the abuses, the fraud, dealing with all the humanitarian issues.
And just see that literally washed away in 100 days by the Biden administration, you No wonder the guys worked up.
And what's galling is, you know, we were talking, I don't want to name names and competitors, cause that would be fair, but on WTOP this morning.
We don't consider them competitors.
So they were saying, well, the numbers are up only 1% over last month.
Oh my god, last month is a historic high.
20-year high.
20 years, over 180,000 people, and you're trumpeting the fact, well, it's only 1% higher.
That's like the Titanic, breaking in half, and half of it sinks, and somebody says, well, the other half's still floating.
The effort to just pretend, and look.
So let me interject here, because you said something really significant and disturbing in the last segment.
It's faceless people, it's ideologues, it's not a policy process that's driving, for example, the immigration policy in the White House.
As a result, if that's true, and I subscribe to that, there will never be a check on this insanity.
And here's the thing, too, is Biden and Harris You know, I'm not a political guy.
This is just me observing how policy gets made.
I think they're just frontmen.
They don't care if Biden and Harris burn because of this and go down.
You mean the people who are behind the policy?
Because for them, it's this policy is going to change America.
They will sacrifice Harris and Biden in a heartbeat.
If it destroys their political careers, they actually could care less.
Look, they just sent Harris out, who's completely unqualified.
And ill-prepared to deal with the border issue, they sent her to Latin America.
She got pulled apart like a raw piece of meat in a den of lions.
And what did they do?
They leaked that her performance was atrocious.
From the White House.
From the White House!
The people that sent her into the lion's den to die.
Then once she failed, they did the Roman Emperor Thumbs Down thing on her.
And she didn't help herself.
This is Kamala Harris on a Latin American Spanish language TV channel.
Video cut nine, play cut.
I said I'm going to go to the border.
And when are you going to the border, Vice President?
The administration has asked I'm not finished.
I said I'm going to the border.
Didn't she do that with Biden during the debate?
I'm not finished.
I'm still talking.
This is not how you win friends and influence people.
This isn't Dale Carnegie.
So here's the problem is everybody knows, including Kamala Harris, why she's not going to the border.
Presidents go to volcanoes and hurricanes and earthquakes, and the reason is because FEMA goes in first and fixes everything, and then the president and vice president show up and go, we're here to help.
It's a photo op, people.
She's not going to the border because there's nothing good to talk about.
And it's the worst place to talk about only bad things.
We all know that she knows that and if you don't and this is this is why you have a room for a really smart people.
So I said was in the White House.
You were there to say, okay when they ask the question, which we really don't want to answer.
Give us an answer that doesn't make us look stupid.
So they knew there she was going.
They knew she was going to get asked that question.
She's been asked it over and over again.
And her answers get worse, which tells you that nobody is telling her what to say.
She's thinking this up on her own.
And if she can't come up with a better answer, the 14th time she's asked the question, that tells you this is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
I'm saying one thing, guys.
Always make sure, before he comes on the show, that he gets a McDonald's apple pie, because he did today, and it worked.
That's his magic rocket fuel.
Follow him, J.J.
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But first, I want to do something a little bit different today.
Because of the political environment, because of the threats of the Second Amendment, I'm going to play a clip from a lady, a Chinese immigrant called Zhivang Fleet, who talked about the threat Of something that you and your family intimately understand, and that is the loss of our liberties.
Cut six.
Play cut.
And the vocabulary is even the same.
Wokeness.
And to be specific, we use class wokeness.
In Chinese, it is 阶级觉悟.
Your level of wokeness determines your chance to get promotion or to get benefit.
And who decides your level of wokeness?
It is the party leaders.
That brave woman spoke out at the education board meeting, the school board meeting in Loudoun County as a parent.
Mr. Moon, you're not just in the firearms trade because you want to have a successful business.
You understand the broader meaning of our constitutional rights and the threats to them, don't you?
Oh, absolutely.
My father was in the North Korean communist concentration camp.
He was liberated by General MacArthur during the Korean War.
So, yeah, what we're seeing in America today is very, very frightening.
It's full-blown communism.
And they're coming after all of our liberties, our guns, our right to speech, our right to property.
We are in serious danger as a country right now today.
Sebastian, I'm worried.
And this time, we hear these threats and we're concerned about our Second Amendment civil rights with regularity.
I've lived in America for 13 years now and this is something we hear again and again and again.
But do you concur with me, Mr. Moon, that now it is qualitatively different and even more serious than ever before?
Absolutely.
I mean, look at who the president nominates for the director of the ATF.
That crazy lunatic, Chipman, was a guy at Waco taking a picture of a dead body of an American.
I mean, the Waco was the greatest law enforcement disaster in the history of our country.
They killed 76 people for what amounted to one person committing a firearms charge, which is at most a few years in prison.
That doesn't give a right for the government to murder 76 people unrelated to the person who committed the crime.
What's the good news?
You are the founder, the president, you revolutionized the carry handgun industry with your tiny 9mm, small as a PPK, lighter and more powerful.
Talk about what you've witnessed in the last year.
Can you keep up with demand with all these new people who believe finally in the Second Amendment?
Yeah, that is.
That's like the silver lining on the dark cloud which we're facing is that Americans are getting in all throughout America.
They're just buying guns like crazy.
The buying and the demand for firearms and ammunition still is still intense.
And, you know, we are we basically sold out our production for the year.
So, you know, I'm grateful for the Americans, all the Americans out there who realize our freedoms under attack.
But the state of our country truly troubles me greatly.
I'm really worried about this great nation.
And what is your message to those people who may be waking up?
They've heard people like G. Van Fleet at the Loudoun County School Board or maybe that amazing teacher we had on the show yesterday who's speaking up saying that this is Marxist indoctrination.
What is your message to those who are starting to see the light?
Starting to understand why the Second Amendment is a civil right and not just an American peculiarity.
What is your message to those who, I don't know, might be thinking of buying a gun?
Well, you know, all of the gun rights groups in the industry and in the Second Amendment community are really fighting hard to preserve the right to bear arms.
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There we go.
I'll cut seven.
We haven't done cut seven.
And we haven't done four.
Which is better, seven or four, Geoff?
Four's pretty long.
Four.
Seven is just the deliveries.
It's an eighth grade kid.
Yeah, the delivery.
Right, right, right, right, right.
Fourth cut is a minute eighteen.
Eight is hilarious.
Eight?
I wanted to play that earlier.
What am I doing here?
Can you come in with eight?
And then I'll tee up four.
Come in with eight, tee up four.
Alright, wait for the disclaimer.
What?
Eleven.
Oh, crap.
Yes, I do.
Alright, come in with...
What did I say?
Eight.
Eight.
Then I'll tee up eleven and then I'll tee up four.
Got it.
Wait for the disclaimer.
Stand by.
Do not do anything before the disclaimer.
Roger that.
That is my simple request.
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And let's just listen to Louie Gohmert.
And if he's claiming that he was being told by Capitol Police officers that there was going to be this influx of Antifa, who they've claimed were basically the devil, they're just anti-fascists, they don't really show up anywhere.
We're waiting.
Okay.
And Joy Reid just said Antifa are just anti-fascist and they don't show up anywhere.
I gotta ask you, thank you for telling me to play that Mr G, is she that dumb?
Um, there's days in the rundown where there's three or four Antifa articles of them out destroying things.
Well, I mean, has she heard of Andy Ngo?
It must be virtual when they show up places, I guess.
Or when they give you a brain bleed because they smacked you on the head.
That must be because they're not there.
Or the Portland courthouse for, what, 100 days at worst?
Right.
But I have to ask the question, is she that dumb, Geoff?
That, I don't think so.
You don't?
I think she's lying, and she knows it.
We'll never know.
Somebody who knows, who knows that what he is doing is wrong is Lloyd Austin, the disgraceful, the utter disgrace that is the Secretary of Defense, who thinks this is what he should be talking about.
Cut 11.
And today we reaffirm that transgender rights are human rights, and that America is safer Is he like, is he the secretary of transgenderism?
Or are you the secretary of defense?
What a putz.
Okay, let's have something that actually is Positive.
What was I saying?
Every day or every other day is a video.
Now it's multiple videos a day of people waking up and talking the truth.
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CRT is not racial sensitivity or simply teaching unfavorable American history or teaching Jim Crow history.
CRT is deeper and more dangerous than that.
CRT and its outworking today is a teaching that there is a hierarchy in society where white, male, heterosexual, able-bodied people are deemed the oppressor and anyone else outside of that status is oppressed.
That's why we see corporations like Coca-Cola asking their employees to be less white, which is ridiculous.
I don't know about you, but telling my child or any child that they are in a permanent oppressed status in America because they are black is racist.
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This is not something that we can stand for.
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If this continues, we will look back and be responsible for the dismantling of the greatest country in the world by reverting to teaching hate and that race is a determining factor on where your destiny lies.
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Thank you, ma'am.
We need to get her on the show as well.
God bless Keisha King.
Next, my doctor, Dr. Pappas on COVID.
Next, my doctor, Dr. Pappas.
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first and here's your host Dr. Sebastian Gorka. - It's very dangerous, Chuck, because a lot of what you're seeing as attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.
Because all of the things that I have spoken about, consistently from the very beginning, have been fundamentally based on science.
Attacks on me are attacks on science.
I don't think Dr. Fauci has an ego problem.
Welcome, dear friends, back to America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka on the Salem Radio Network.
A very, very special hour for you today.
We have a dear friend of mine.
I like to say he's my personal As well as Sean Spicer.
We spoke to Sean Spicer earlier today and we're going to share with you his analysis of matters political.
But let's talk about your health.
Let's talk about the nation's health.
Let's talk about, God willing, a post-COVID environment.
Dr. Sam Pappas of Pappas Health.
Welcome back.
Great to be here, Seb.
All right.
So, you, in our discussions outside of your clinic, your surgery, You used a very interesting phrase.
You talked about the coronavirus scale and the vaccine scale, that there are different attitudes.
People are in different places when it comes to how they see their health and how they look at the last year.
Let me ask you, as the person I trust to look after my family's health, a person who practices, what do you call it, integrative?
Integrative, yeah.
Integrative health where it's not just you're not just a person to be given prescriptions, but where you look at the whole Ecosystem of the patient to see what needs to be figured out in a holistic sense How would you rate if you were a doctor of?
Western civilization, let's put it Let's be Fauci like in our level of ego if you were the doctor to the Western world How would you say we have done in the last year?
We've had a lot of misses and some hits.
I think we've learned as we've gone, but have we learned enough is the question, and have we personalized enough?
I like to think of myself as a COVID-centrist doctor who will help people out anywhere on their spectrum, you know, with respect.
But each person is unique and unfortunately we are trying to have one bullet for everybody.
We're trying to have one size fits all rather than personalizing and individualizing.
Like, for example, my biggest issue with the national policies that first came out of China, were picked up by the UK, the US and everywhere, is this idea that you have a one-size-fits-all lockdown policy.
You've got South Dakota with 800,000 people in it, and we have to lock it down the same as metropolitan New York.
That's not a very sophisticated way of looking at health, is it?
No, I don't think so.
And I like to think about, as someone said, we have theory and practice.
And, of course, I've got to bring in the Greeks.
By the way, Pappas, he's Greek, just for those who didn't get it.
There will be references to Socrates and many others as we proceed, but go ahead.
But, you know, someone said once, you know, we have theory, which is like the Greeks, and practice, which is the Romans.
And we need both.
In my experience, theory, which is public health and academic centers are vitally important, but they should be balanced out by those in practice like the Romans.
And I think it's been skewed and we haven't really utilized those on the front lines because I've addressed and thought about COVID very deeply.
I wanted to attack it, so whether it's for prevention, diagnosis, treatment, vaccine, post-vaccine, pre-vaccine, and I think we have, as Polybius said, another Greek, you know, the Greeks have been untaught by adversity, whereas the Romans learned, you know, from discipline how to overcome that.
So I think that's a challenge we need to work on, is using both public health and those on the front lines.
It seems like common sense to me.
Let's talk about your approach to health and why I am so happy to have you look after me and my family.
The way you look, you have circumspection.
is a word that is too infrequently used so the idea of prudence and circumspection that we are wise in analyzing risk and we have a multifaceted approach to risk and on this sheet you sent me I get a lot of material from Dr. Pappas and it's all golden You talk about Socrates, you talk about the need to understand your personal risks.
How much of the problems outside of the virus itself in the last year has been potentially a function of an unthinking attitude to health?
That one expert says X or a governor says X, Therefore, that's what I will do without, number one, looking at my personal history or just sitting down with a medical professional and saying, what is different about my interface with COVID?
Shouldn't the relationship to a risk always be measured based upon my Yes, I mean, that's a great point.
You know, I like to say that we physicians often live in uncertain times, uncertainty, but patients have a hard time with uncertainty.
And if you tell them, listen, we're going to take a look, so I say first know thyself, as Socrates would say, and say, what is unique about you?
We learned quickly about this virus that, as opposed to, you know, past flus and whatnot, that the young were not affected, but as you got older you were affected at a higher risk.
But then also certain risk factors made it worse.
So if you were obese or had diabetes, so you can then start stratifying and say, you know, Mrs. Smith, who's 45 years old, an obese, diabetic woman, has a higher risk than maybe the 55-year-old husband, who's in great shape, and that her kids do not have a high risk.
But I think we just kind of did a one-size-fits-all model, and people were left with uncertainty and fear, and we made a lot of decisions based on that.
And when it comes to those decisions or the things we were told were right, let's talk about the last year.
Let's remind ourselves and on our TV show, The Gawker Reality Check, we're dedicating the whole program this Sunday, the whole hour, to COVID and to the truth about COVID.
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Let's look at what's happened.
First things first, we have to give credit to President Trump and to Operation Warp Speed, because you're the doctor, I'm just an amateur historian.
I don't think we've ever had four vaccines developed in 12 months.
I mean, that's just stunning.
Right, right.
I mean, really impressive.
But then also, it's one size fits all, and each person has a unique response.
But, you know, globally speaking, vaccines are important.
So hats off to the ingenuity of Americans to get this out.
And why was there at the beginning, especially in the UK, you saw a lot of resistance to the discussion of herd immunity, this idea that the natural immunity, those who've caught it and have developed antibodies, added to those who are vaccinated, there's a certain point at which a virus simply doesn't have enough Fresh quote-unquote victims to jump to and that's when the virus simply burns out.
When did we switch from the concept of natural progressions of viruses to the idea that a whole population has to be vaccinated?
I don't remember that.
Yeah, it became very confusing to me as somebody interested in reading this, where the Greek side, the theory side, the academic side, the cognitive elite,
across all spectrums of health, decided to de-emphasize population immunity, herd immunity, and saying, well, maybe because this virus is novel, or because we're in fear, that they really did not stress that.
But we now know, why are things getting better?
Why are we in a good place here as of June in America, in Northern Virginia in particular?
Because of herd immunity from people who had past infections, layered in with vaccines as well.
So, you add in the vaccines and the past infections and you have a population immunity that is very robust.
We're going to respect all HIPAA regulations here, no names, no pack drills, but I have to ask you in the last 60 seconds, we have in this segment with Dr. Sam Pappas, my personal physician, Pappas Health, at Dr. Sam Pappas on Twitter.
What did you have to deal with most in the last year?
Was it actual medicine?
Or was it fear?
It was half fear and concern and then half medicines because people were either getting sick or knew somebody who was getting sick.
Thankfully, we'll talk more about this, our treatments of patients prevented hospitalizations.
But a lot of concerns, a lot of fear for their family, a lot of worry and we love to interface with patients so a lot of great questions.
But lots of fear.
A lot of fear and uncertainty and you know a lot of high cortisol levels, the stress hormone, which as we all know is not good for our health.
No, stress is bad for your health whether or not we have a virus to contend with.
More on what you need to know about COVID the last year and What do you do next time?
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He has guided me through the COVID nightmare.
I'm very grateful to him, his whole team, especially Tamara.
God bless you.
You talked about your success with your patients in terms of treatment.
You very early on, I told people on the show, I'm on hydroxy.
I take it once a week.
As soon as the president mentioned it, you checked it out.
You put me on it when I caught COVID at Christmas.
And of course, I'm not I'm not indicative of the average, probably, but it was three days of a very mild flu and I felt a little bit achy.
And then I was back on my feet ready to go.
Talk about the success you've had and the philosophy of prevention vice treatment.
Well, you know, I was interested in this and I remember reading that SARS-1 was very dangerous and difficult to treat, but that there were some treatments that may help it.
So we have COVID as SARS-2 and then the previous SARS-1.
Right.
And the thinking is maybe this is like 80% similar.
So the East Asian countries, China, South Korea, said we have a bunch of different treatments and we're going to utilize these In a multidisciplinary approach, we're going to look at blood thinners because it causes blood clots.
We're going to look at steroids to reduce inflammation.
We're going to look at some kind of antibiotics.
I've got to jump in here as a layman.
My understanding was many of the serious complications, especially for the aged with underlying conditions, had to do with the respiratory tract.
You'd have a secondary inflammation.
There'd be infection, but then a secondary inflammation would take them down.
That's why anti-inflammatories and steroids were so important.
Exactly.
And that's like the azithromycin, etc.
Azithromycin is the antibiotic, but like a prednisone pack or a meddral pack.
So, some great work was being done in Asia, and one of the gurus on this early on, There's a fantastic intensive care unit doctor, Dr. Paul Merrick, here in Virginia, Norfolk, who had for the longest time been looking at steroids and said, look, we need to give steroids, either in the lungs or intravenous, with these blood thinners and some kind of antibiotic.
And he made an interesting observation.
He said the lack of steroids or blood thinners was the number one cause of early death in COVID in the beginning.
And a lot of people didn't believe it.
They wanted randomized controlled trials, even though the rest of the world was doing it.
So the West did not buy into it.
It took them a few months.
But I said these steroids are safe.
The rest of the world is using them with really good effect early on.
I'm going to give my patients, if they need it, on a personalized basis, a steroid pack, an aspirin if they can tolerate it, and some kind of antibiotic.
The blood thinner, exactly.
So we started having some great results based on what people were doing.
And then someone said, you know, there's evidence-based medicine and then experience-based medicine.
And I said, I've been in practice for 20 some years.
Isn't medicine originally all about evidence?
And praxis.
Yes.
I mean, that's how it began.
Praxis, that's a good word.
Right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Almost Hungarian, but not quite.
So, you know, we were working with people, you know, talking to different doctors all over the world, all over this country, and started seeing good results.
But I think, again, I think a lot of the experts were just fear, were cautious.
And it made sense and they didn't want to do things that were untried.
But this is where I get really angry.
When people say, oh, hydroxychloroquine, so dangerous.
What do you mean?
We gave it to our GIs in Vietnam.
It's been a generic for decades.
It's been around since the 50s.
And the thing that made my eyes open one day when I saw a map of global COVID infections, And I looked at the continent of Africa and it was like it wasn't touched by COVID.
And then I looked a little bit deeper.
Oh, yes!
Hydroxychloroquine is an over-the-counter non-prescription drug because it's been used in Africa for decades for malaria.
Therefore, it's probably in most people's bloodstreams already.
Therefore, do the math!
Right.
And Washington Post just had an article saying that hydroxy and some other treatments were effective.
And there are many of those studies around.
But then for those who couldn't tolerate it, we had other choices and we had the Z-Pak and then other medicines.
Talk to me about why you had me on zinc and vitamin D and why so many people said it has relevance to coronavirus.
Well, we know those two vitamins are critical for immune system support.
They help T cells and antibodies fight infections.
It makes it harder for the coronavirus to actually penetrate the cell.
Right, exactly.
And they work synergistically.
And quickly, early on, we saw from New York, the people who got the sickest and were in the hospital and got on these breathing machines had the lowest vitamin D levels.
So I said, we're in war here.
We're going to use any tools we have.
Let's give the vitamin D. Let's give the zinc.
We can actually measure those levels and we can discuss that, right?
But a lot of my patients I know, I said, you don't have vitamin D. Let's get you more.
There's no harm.
And the hydroxy vice, Ivermectin, originally it was a lot of people saying hydroxy, then Ivermectin took over.
You're a big fan now of Ivermectin?
Yeah, I mean, it's been called a wonder drug because it's been around forever helping critical, dangerous illnesses around the world very safely.
And then in the last year, studies came out and said in the lab, it looks really good.
And then they rolled it out.
Great results, better than hydroxy, better than other antibiotics.
It's the go-to, so a track record that's very safe, long history, very effective for treatment and prevention, and very cheap.
So really, really a no-brainer for people to use and we can discuss, you know, should you have a COVID pack even if you've been vaccinated or not and carry Ivermectin with you.
But yeah, really the go-to medicine in addition to steroids and aspirin now for COVID in the outpatient setting.
It's still like other medicines, not that effective in the hospital late game.
No, no, these are early action.
Yeah, these are all early and things that we can do before our colleagues get inundated with patients in the hospital.
And the serum, the antibody serum, that's also, that's a treatment once you've got it.
Yeah, very good, very good.
So again, layering in these different treatments.
Right.
You know, whether you've had a vaccine or not, layering in these treatments together synergistically Using all the bullets that we have, all the tools.
The thing that annoys me the most, guys, and I think it's clear in what the last 18 minutes of this discussion, We know so much already.
It's shocking.
If you listen to the mainstream media, the conventional knowledge, conventional wisdom, it's like, oh, it's so scary.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We do know.
Why?
Because of the actual praxis, the experience of what treatments were given and what worked.
We're talking to my friend, my doctor, Dr. Sam Pappas, PappasHealth.com.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Thank you.
If we run out of time, I think I might pull him back for the e-segment after, Sean, because it's that important, guys.
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No, I think in your particular case, we now know, just like with prior infections, if you've had COVID, You're protected as good, if not better, than a vaccine.
You know, my father-in-law, who's in his 80s, I recommend he get the vaccine.
You, I recommend you don't get the vaccine.
Because I'm full of antibodies.
Because you have antibodies, and we've tested it, but more importantly we know from research.
So one of the challenges with the vaccine was, initially when it came out, it was under the understanding or thinking that there was no herd immunity, there was no early treatments, and asymptomatic spread was very high.
But as time went along, what we found out was there was building herd immunity or population immunity from prior infections, there were a lot of good early treatments, and asymptomatic spread was much less than we thought.
Yes.
So in that environment, not every single person needed the vaccine while it was being developed.
And that we had other tools to use and that we could layer in the vaccine with other remedies like ivermectin and antibiotics.
And those like you who are, you know, very well tolerated at the infection, Didn't need it.
And that's really good news.
And then for those who haven't been vaccinated, who are considering it, who have concerns or worries, how do you look at the different vaccines?
And also, what information are we getting in terms of side effects?
So, we know, one, because I ask people, and two, because I test their labs pre and post vaccine, that more than other vaccines, there's some side effects.
Thankfully, I haven't seen any dangerous side effects, but I've seen a number of serious side effects.
So if you're between 30 and 50s, do you need to get it?
And as we have a discussion and say, you know, what are the risks?
What are the benefits?
The exciting new theory that I think is very accurate is that you can take or do things before and after the vaccine to help you tolerate it better and make it work better.
So this is insane.
This is why I love your form of medicine.
This integrative, this holistic way of looking at the human body.
Because for most people, I swear, I was like this until I met you.
I take a vaccine.
And then maybe a Gatorade afterwards.
The idea that I can prep myself and I can do things after I get a shot that would make, ameliorate any potential negative side effects is not how big medicine is practiced, is it?
Right, exactly.
You know, for example, I told my Greek patients, no ouzo the night before.
And get some sleep.
Was that tough?
It was very tough.
So I think in confession, they told me they did it anyway, some of them.
So, you know, you want to say, listen, your health is too important to leave just to the health care system.
Yeah.
You want to be a citizen scientist engaged in an end of one experiment and partnering with a team, with your doctor.
You should not be satisfied if the doctor is not working with you.
And this is whether it's COVID or heart problems or any other medical problem.
Let me put it this way.
I'm not a doctor.
I've got a PhD in political science.
I did study philosophy and theology.
I'm just off the top of my head.
This is what I'm going to say to you, dear listeners.
Please, please understand this is the way to go.
The human body is more complex than anything man has ever manufactured.
I'm sorry.
Even your iPhone, okay?
The idea that we don't treat the human body as a massively complex system that doesn't just require you to pop a pill or get a jab is insanity!
Listen to this man, listen to the philosophy and find people who treat you like you are a complex entity.
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You know it makes sense.
Thank you.
so you know that we have a very special side product called the battle for 1600 with my former white house colleague We call him the Baron Boris Epstein.
We've re-imaged it to give you updates on MAGA World, the races, the candidates, what President Trump is doing.
In addition to that, it's not just me and the Baron chatting, we're also talking about special guests.
And this week we had our first.
He decided to pop in on the podcast.
The man who made the podium famous in the West Wing.
He is, of course, Sean Spicer, former press secretary to President Trump.
And he had an interesting idea that I wanted him to share with you, our dear listeners, here on America First.
It's the Baron, it's me, and Sean Spicer.
And we had a discussion, Sean, you and I, two days ago.
Yes, I can't even remember now.
And it's about rhinos.
It's about the establishment.
And I don't want to steal your thunder, but let me just tee it up thusly.
It's time.
Let me give a story from our time in the White House.
A lot of people, not you Sean, not you Boris, but a lot of people beneath you Sean, a lot of people running around the West Wing, Wanted to have the approbation, wanted to have the mark of acceptance of the legacy media.
They wanted the New York Times, Washington Post to say nice things about them.
My policy was never.
I don't talk to them on record, off record, behind whatever, because they don't believe in what the president was elected to accomplish.
And really they have, they're not journalists, they have a motive that is political.
How do we deal, Sean, and Boris jump in as well, how do we deal with the GOP legacy establishment wanting to play nice with people who want to really destroy what we believe in?
So look, I'll say this.
I think I've been doing this and around this for over 25 years, probably closer to going on 30.
I think what we have seen in the past four and a half to five years is vastly different than prior to that.
There were organizations in my first, I mean, we're joking about the books, in my first book, I write that there are organizations and people I dealt with at the RNC, six years of coordinating debates and president's committees, who I may have disagreed with, but I thought they were fair, right?
They may have had an agenda or been biased, but they literally, for the most part, cared.
What we have seen since, basically since I think the win of Donald Trump, Because it was different during the campaign.
Even some of them played nice because they didn't think he was going to win.
Exactly.
So it's sort of like, okay, we can play footsie with you, whatever.
Is an all-out hatred.
Just yesterday, a CNN host, I don't want to get sidetracked, literally was, I call it, anchorsplaining to Byron Donalds, a black congressman, about minority voting.
And I'm thinking to myself, in what world And she kept saying, but you support Donald Trump, you support Donald Trump.
And that was all that she could go back to him on.
And I'm sitting here watching a black member of Congress be anchorsplained to about minority voting.
Hang on, by a white woman?
Correct.
Okay.
Not to get sidetracked, but that wouldn't have occurred four and a half years ago.
And so getting full circle to the point of your question, I think that we have to understand as conservatives, That we've been able to, they've been able to hide it and play nice for X number of years, up until four and a half years ago.
It's on now, right?
They don't like us.
They don't like him.
They don't like the agenda.
And so here's the deal.
If you think that somehow you are going to, I've always prior to all this, I always said, Hey, going on some shows going on, whatever, going on CNN.
It broadens your appeal, right?
It gets you more people, whatever.
We are now complicit, though.
If you go on CNN, you are validating them.
You are giving them the ability to say that they are fair and that they have both sides.
So when you go on a CNN or an MSNBC, And that's where a lot of our guys like to go because they want to be able to say, Oh, I got on MSNBC and dah, dah, dah.
You are helping them.
You are complicit in making them look like that.
They are fair, like they are journalists and they're not, and they are using us.
And so my point into your question is we've got to stop.
We've got to stop pretending that somehow if we play with them, because that's not how they treat the other side, right?
We watched this Hunter Biden used a racial epithet over and over again.
It came out in not one, not one.
Politico, Washington Post, New York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS didn't even mention the mere existence of it.
They don't care.
And so if we don't get that, that somehow you think if you talk to them, you'll be invited to the cocktail party, the book party, the whatever reception that's really fun to get to, and you'll be accepted.
You're wrong.
You're mistaken.
Get over it.
We have an agenda.
We have plenty of outlets.
They call us right-wing extremist news and whatever, and somehow they never refer to the MSNBCs and the CNNs, whatever, as left-wing.
They want to pretend that they are the conscious, they are the truth, they are the center, they're not.
And we have got to stop treating them like it's okay.
This is like the equivalent of going on a left-wing, you know, it's like going on the Young Turks or something, which is crazy left socialist.
It's like, if you're willing to do that, then go on CNN.
But if you would find that offensive, a lot of folks won't come on Newsmax, won't come on Seb Gorka's show, won't go on wherever, because they go, oh, I'm not going on right-wing media.
Well, then why do we do it?
Right.
Right.
So our folks got to stop.
We've got to stop.
And I know there's an urge.
I know it's like, yeah, but I want to be on TV.
I want to get quoted or talk to this reporter from The New York Times.
Stop.
That's great.
I'm going to ask you about the so what.
Thank you, Sean.
Do you concur, Boris, with that analysis with Sean's depiction?
I'll have a caveat to what Sean is saying.
I think going on there and participating in a panel debate and pretending like everything is even is a joke and is a waste of time.
I have gone on one-on-one on MSNBC recently, including during the impeachment, effectively to present our side, and in some ways to show that we're here and we're willing to fight back.
If we're fighting on their terms, I think it's a mistake, and I agree with Sean 100%.
I think being one of those 10-person panels on CNN and trying to equivocate is a mess.
But if there's an opportunity, and in one-on-one fashion, to go and do battle, there is, you know, for example, I think Ari Melber is a show that is useful to go on.
Is Lawrence O'Donnell?
Absolutely not.
But if you're able to go on and have a somewhat thoughtful one-on-one conversation and parry, and go back and forth, I think there is a benefit to that.
So there it is.
I like it.
Sean wants to go on the offensive and the Baron agrees.
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We're back with Dr. Sam Pappas.
We're going to close out what we were talking about.
You used the phrase in the break, Dr. Pappas, very militaristic, like a Stratigoy of ancient Greece.
You've got to prepare the battlefield.
We've got to look at ourselves as, you know, the enemies out there.
Viruses, bacteria, who knows it.
Whatever you want to call it.
Stress factors.
What does preparing the battlefield mean in terms of personal health?
Well, someone said once, the terrain is more important than the microbe.
And to me, that made a lot of sense.
And then when I combined it with the word hygiene comes from the Greek goddess of kind of health.
And I said, this makes a lot of sense.
We don't know what's going to happen in the future with COVID.
We don't know what the side effects are.
If we've had the illness, if we've had medicines, if we've had the vaccine, are there going to be a second round in the fall?
But we can take action, prepare our foundation, Work in our lifestyle.
Practice health with intention and deliberation.
Know our blood work.
Where is your biochemistry taking you?
I call that the river of life.
Go check it out.
Look at my action plan and say what blood test should I get and let me order them and take control and be prepared for the unknown.
Because preparation will help you We're in the battle, will it not?
Absolutely.
You know, we're on this battle together.
I'm impressed with people coming together during COVID.
But there was a lot of fear, a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety.
We have to help each other out.
And it's great advice to give to your, you know, neighbors and friends.
Let's together improve our health.
Let's also know where our terrain is and know where our biochemistry is taking us.
Know the terrain, know the threats that are real and that aren't, and find a way to manage, to minimize the fear.
Because the fear itself, you can ask the good doctor, will impact negatively on your health.
Check out his amazing, freshly written, for all of you, COVID Action Plan at papashealth.com slash COVID Action Plan.
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