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March 14, 2018 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Get Off My Lawn #98 | No Escape
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This is mad, I get more butt than ass trays.
The fair one, I get mine the fast way.
Ski Mass way, the ransom, nope, far from handsome, but damn it get the five from New York.
Get off my lawn, it's the pay of ammo.
You whack to me, take them rhymes back to the factory.
I see the gimmicks, the whack lyrics.
The shit is depressing, pathetic.
Please forget it.
You mad cut my style and wait for the chorus.
You shouldn't have been the cop from hip-hop.
With that freestyle, you're back in the middle.
Come on, get your chorus, Craig.
Not from Houston, but a rap a lot.
Pack the gap a lot.
The flavor's about to drop.
Pick up the brand new favorite, yeah.
Top for new favorite, yeah.
That was Craig Mac.
Flavor in your air.
We got to get the new flavor in your air.
Something like that.
Craig Mac is a rapper from Long Island here in New York.
I'm a guy with no shoulders.
I have the body of Grover.
Gorgeous legs, like Superman's legs, but my upper body is that of a Muppet.
So suspenders are constantly slipping off.
Same with backpacks.
But I was at an awards thing last night.
That's a lie.
And don't bow ties.
Bow ties are annoying to have on because you've got to constantly adjust them and make sure they look right because they slowly skew over the night.
But as soon as you're done, like dessert, you get to go floomph.
And what look is better than this look?
Right?
The sort of tired rich guy?
I don't know what happened with Craig Mac.
He's my age.
He's deed.
Could be cocaine.
I don't know.
But he really just had that one song, and it was a huge hit, especially when I was a young lad of 20-something in the 90s.
And we've had a lot of rap on the show this week, but they keep making the news.
Yesterday we had Jules Santana trying to get away with the gun on his carry-on.
And today we have a dead Craig Mac.
We've got a fun show for you today that's pretty heavy.
It's sort of a continuation of yesterday's show.
So we have Tommy Robinson talking about the arrests.
Actually, Tommy Robinson, we're catching up on at least four different major news events that he's involved in since we last had him on the show last week.
And then we have a new guest.
She was a he, but Z goes by the name Opinionated European on Twitter, and it's a Polak in London who's been following Antifa around.
We'll talk to her.
So it's a little heavy, a little heavy, so I want to keep it kind of light in the intro here.
I want to talk about some TV I've been watching.
You know, I've got kids.
I've got an 11-year-old, a nine-year-old, and a five-year-old.
We have movie night on Monday night.
So we had movie night last night.
And the kids, Jumpers is a good movie.
That's a good action flick that the kids love.
But you got to, action is always a safe bet.
But if there's a long sort of exposition at the beginning to get you to know the characters and stuff, the younger ones space out.
The younger five-year-old, he likes sci-fi.
He wants to see monsters and stuff going on.
So there's a lot of movies that you think are crap that are actually great movies to watch with the kids.
Napoleon Dynamite, I never thought it was crap, but that's a good example that the kids love that movie.
And it's sort of revitalized a lot of dead films in my repertoire.
So I'm going to take a moment to tell you about them and recommend them for the family.
Great movie to watch with the kids, especially the older kids.
Hot Rod with Andy Samberg.
This movie, I saw a bit of it and I went boring and turned it off, not my cup of tea.
It's sort of a parody of the Evil Knievel types.
It seems to be a parody on Grizzly Man, too.
These sort of these amateur stuntmen who make fools of themselves.
And it's got Napoleon Dynamite type stuff in it.
But it's just slap, just play some of the trailer there.
It's just slapstick after slapstick after slapstick.
Tell your friends.
That's just a sample.
Good luck.
Don't worry, Denise.
I've done this before.
So we'll go to.
It's kind of funny.
Okay, so that's just Relentless Slapstick again and again and again.
Kids love it.
My nine-year-old was falling off the couch, dying.
I highly recommend that.
And now another one for the five-year-olds, like, for example, we did Speed, the movie Speed with Sandra Bullock.
That's good and everything for the older kids.
The five-year-old was freaking out.
We had to get him an iPad and some headphones because he was getting scared.
So I don't recommend that.
And you got to go, like, one week we do Hot Rod for the older kids.
The next week we have sci-fi crazy stuff for the younger kids.
Now, Valerian is what we watched last night.
Great movie for the kids.
By the way, I don't know whose idea this is, but movies are now three hours long.
So you have to rush your dinner, jam it down your throat, and then run downstairs so your five-year-old can get to bed at eight.
You really got to move with these movies.
And then after the kids go to bed, of course, you can start watching your own TV.
And last night I saw The Foreigner, which I've been dynasty.
By the way, still haven't seen Deathwish.
The storm blocked out our babysitter night for that.
I will be watching Deathwish.
I cannot wait to see Deathwish.
And the reason I know it's going to be great is because I see all these PC critics whining and complaining about how it exploits the Chicago deaths.
And this guy's basically a vigilante.
Yeah.
Ever heard of Charles Bronson, you nubs?
I just made up that insult, nubs.
I can't wait to see it.
It looks like it's going to be great.
It's not going to be ruined with political correctness.
David Cross is voicing a new movie where this black guy puts on a white voice.
It looks really well done and weird, sort of like being John Malkovich.
Yeah, that's it.
That looks good, but they could really ruin it if they make America look racist.
All you need to do, by the way, to not ruin that David Cross movie is give the black guy some culpability.
If the world's out to get him and all he does is try and get screwed over, that's a boring movie.
If he's a bit of a screw-up and he's partly responsible for his own failures, you got a great movie on your hands.
It's very simple, Hollywood.
But yeah, The Foreigner is Jackie Chan getting revenge on Pierce Brosnan for being involved in the IRA and blowing up Jackie Chan's daughter.
And he's a 60-year-old Kung Fu guy.
I play some of that.
He's not that good at Kung Fu now because he's older.
Perfect.
And I know I rail against dead kids.
I hate that as a plot trope.
But in revenge movies, it's acceptable.
Oh, it's Casino Royale, baby.
For the names of the bombers.
That's not how we do things here.
Hello.
Mr. Hennessy is here again.
That's five days in a row now.
It's a brilliant concept.
It's Jackie Chan as basically Jason Bourne.
And now he's 60.
And you know a 60-year-old Jason Bourne would still be awesome.
He'd still know a lot about bombs.
So that's great for grown-ups.
How are we doing for time here, Dave?
About seven and a half.
Okay.
So, ugly delicious.
David Chang.
I've hung out with him a few times.
Awesome dude.
He runs Momofuku, one of the most successful restaurants in the world.
He actually is the guy who came up with the brilliant move, putting girls in the friend zone.
He invented that.
You're hanging out with a model and she's out of your league and you realize she's not interested in you.
You then preemptively put her in the friend zone and you say to this supermodel, which doesn't happen in my life, but it happens in his, hey, do you know any girls that are interested?
I kind of feel like dating.
And then she has to go, blah, blah, blah, yeah, I'll see what I can do.
And you sort of push her aside, excuse me, gorgeous.
Now, in your world, right, or my world, we don't, it doesn't have to be a supermodel, but just the super hot chick that assumes you want her, put her in the friend zone preemptively, and it messes with her mind.
Now I'm a pickup artist.
Anyway, David Chang, great guy.
This show blows.
Sorry, Dave.
And you know what I thought was interesting?
I sent you a picture of this, Dave.
In the icon on Netflix, which some claim is an algorithm because millennials like to explain the world to me and they're wrong, the sort of picture they use to represent it isn't David Chang.
Yeah, you see that picture?
That's David Cho eating some fried chicken, and that's a stranger handing him fried chicken.
I think Netflix screwed up, and it's very ironic because the show is ruined with politically correct views on race.
For example, in this episode, the fried chicken episode, Chang goes off on this total tangent about how assuming blacks like fried chicken is racist.
Ah.
And of course, there's plenty of black people to go, yeah, it's really hard.
People ask me if I like fried chicken.
And then they find some golfer, I think his name is Lee Trevino or Fuzzy Zeller or whatever, who, you know, 20 years ago said, oh, Tiger Woods is famous.
I guess he'll be serving fried chicken.
Oh my God, someone was rude to you.
Hey, black intellectuals, spend an hour in New York City.
You're insulted every five minutes and you don't go, oh, that's a stereotype.
So, could have been a great show.
David Chang's an interesting guy, but I don't know.
It was kind of ruined.
And then I wandered over to Portlandia, which is a work of art.
And the thing that makes it so great is that no episode is like the other.
By the way, little tangent here.
Speaking of how you can tell shows are good by the critics, I knew the latest episode of Kirby Enthusiasm was going to be great because the critics hated it.
And they hated it because it was offensive to Muslims because there was a fatwa out on them.
Yes, please.
We're at the point now with these critics where bad reviews are good reviews.
If Deathwish has one star, it has five stars.
If Kirby Enthusiasm is a nightmare, then it's awesome.
So this show, Portlandia, right, it's a funny sketch show.
You could watch it with your 11-year-old, not your younger kids.
But they did this one episode.
This is Ancient, by the way, season 6, episode 5.
It's called Breaking Up.
And it's the whole episode.
There's no sketches.
And it's about a couple, Fred Armison and Carrie, play these characters.
And it's a beautiful look at divorce.
I actually, I know the guy.
I texted him after.
I said, if this was in South by Southwest or Sundance, it would have won Best Short Film.
It's a beautiful look at divorce and how we assume all these habits about our significant other are annoying and we'd be so much happier if we had the perfect mate.
And then you get the perfect mate and you realize, I don't know, this is like a kid getting to eat sugar cereal for dinner every night.
It's kind of better as a concept than an actual thing.
And you realize you were better off having your meat and vegetables at night and indulging in your imperfections.
Just play a tiny bit of it, Dave.
I'm on my way out.
How's it going?
Making a lot of headway with the spring cleaning.
Look at this.
This is every key I've ever owned, Claire.
Pillow maybe pile.
Oh, Claire!
I have never seen that before.
Miskits!
I'm looking everywhere for this.
It's a collector's item.
Walk among us, remember?
I don't.
All I ask is getting rid of this stuff.
It's stressing me out.
Don't you see that this is important to me?
This is like part of my life.
And the compromise is for you to organize it and put it away.
Yes.
Pare down, organize.
I will.
All right.
God, your car is so clean.
Yeah.
Wait, are you making it jumpy like that?
I think that might be daily motion.
So the way they get away with stealing episodes is they jump cut it, which makes it unwatchable, of course, so you might as well not put it up.
But anyway, so that guy, Doug, the Fred Armiston character, is kind of a lout, and she's really ambitious.
So she ends up with an ambitious woman, but it's just too much ambition.
And this ambitious woman, she's a lesbian, is too interested in her life, and she realizes, I was better off with this lout.
And then the lout, he ends up with this young girl, and they're doing mushrooms all the time, and they get puppies, and the puppies are crapping everywhere.
And he realizes, I was better with someone who was kind of organized about their life.
And you realize that our imperfections give us cohesion.
And the way we talk about divorce these days, where, hey, my husband farted in front of me.
Dump him.
Get rid of him.
End it.
My wife put on him some weight.
End it.
I mean, you should probably end it if there's Infidelity, but outside of that, you could probably work it out.
And I remember being 10 in the 80s, I'll probably do a podcast on this and seeing all my friends, my dad's friends, sleep on our couch.
It was when divorce was big, 1980, when it sort of exploded.
And I would inevitably see them hook up, not with some 20-year-old blonde, but with someone that was just like the wife they just left.
The grass is always greener, and we're living in such a self-indulgent society that we can't wait to just flush everything down the toilet.
And then the next day go, what happened?
That wasn't shit.
Now my toilet's clogged.
All right.
Let's get serious here.
Let's first talk to this opinionated European and then talk to another opinionated European, Tommy Robinson.
And I think they're both very important because we're Americans.
And if you're American when you're outside of the bathroom, what are you when you're inside of the bathroom?
European.
Girl, scream like I'm Keith.
You won't be.
Susanna Miuleta Mraz is a Polish libertarian law student, Breitbart contributor, Antifa buff, trans person, used to be a dude, is now a chick.
I don't know what that entails, genitalia-y.
And I'm not going to get into it because I'm not in the mood.
But I want to talk to her about Antifa.
She's been following them around, documenting them.
I hope she fights them legally at some point because these spoiled brats want to tear down the Western world and replace it with absolutely nothing.
She's opinionated European on Twitter.
Let's talk to her right now.
Zusanna, are you there?
I'm right here.
How are you, Gavin?
I'm good.
How are you doing?
You're in London, England, correct?
That's right.
I'm in London, England.
But you are a Polak.
Yes, I'm a Polak.
I'm Polish.
I was born there.
I lived there until I was eight, and then I moved to Copenhagen.
Oh, okay.
You know, when I was a kid, we made Polish jokes, and they were seen as dumb people.
And then they were sort of seen as random laborers in London in hotels.
And now they're the in-crowd.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I make Polish jokes all the time.
You know, things like that don't upset me at all.
But now you guys are cool.
Everyone wants to be Poland.
You're the only ones outside of Hungary that have avoided this refugee crisis in Europe.
You're patriotic.
You're proud.
You don't take any shit.
I think the Western world has gone from making jokes about Poland to being profoundly impressed by their behavior.
Yeah, I definitely agree.
You know, I think that a lot of the values that Poland stands for is something that a lot of people in the West want to return to.
So being patriotic, proud of your heritage, perhaps, you know, the Christian roots that we have, all of those things I think are something that the West really misses, especially with the current migrant crisis and people feeling more and more distant from their history, their past, and their culture.
Well, I've always wondered if the reason that Poland has such big balls is because they've trusted people before.
They trusted Stalin, they trusted Churchill, they trusted other countries, and they got nothing but abuse for it.
And I think it's like once burnt, twice shy, and Poland says, yeah, you know what, we're going to handle our own stuff from now on.
Because every time we reach out, we get burned.
So we'll run our own country, thank you.
And yet we still joined the European Union.
Yeah, no, Poland never trusted Stalin.
As a matter of fact, before World War II, we didn't want Stalin to, we didn't allow actually the Soviet army to march through Poland to possibly defend if there was any aggression from Hitler.
I think Poland always had these very anti-communist, anti-Soviet sentiments, especially because, you know, we were partitioned by Russia, Prussia, and Austria.
And so I think Poland always had this distrust towards other nations in Europe.
Yeah, Susanna, just don't correct me when I make historical mistakes because it makes me look dumb.
Sorry, fine, fine.
Never, ever do that again.
All right, I promise.
So speaking of those who are naive about history and refugees, you've been spending a lot of your time in London interviewing, filming, associating with Antifa.
I shouldn't say associating with, but being near them.
Were you at the Sargon of Akkad thing?
Yeah, I was.
I was.
And my friend and I, we sat in first row.
They actually didn't want to let me into the event because I forgot my student ID.
And just two hours before the event started, they made this rule that they're not going to let in anyone who's not a student of a London university because they knew that Antifa was supposed to come.
They were threatening that they were going to be there.
And so I called my friend and I said, Monica, please take a photo of my ID and send it to me as soon as possible so I can actually get in.
So I think whatever divine power.
So whatever divine power just wanted me to be there, I think, because everything was against me.
I barely made it on time.
I forgot my ID.
So I think I was just supposed to be there.
Well, it was a good little brawl.
It looked like Antifa got served.
Yeah, my best friend punched the guy right in the face.
I mean, in self-defense, but still, you know.
So I was very, very happy.
You know, violence is wrong, but justified violence feels so good.
I don't know why.
Just feels, it's almost as good as intercourse.
You were also at another Antifa meeting recently.
They were screaming at you by some police.
Where was that?
That was in Hyde Park by Speaker's Corner, and we were there to protest against Brittany Pettibone and Martin Stellner, who were detained by the British police, but you interviewed them previously.
So we just gathered a crowd of about 100, 200 people.
You know, some of the Generation Identity representatives were saying Martin's speech.
I think, you know, as somebody who was born in a country that is post-communist, where my family never had the freedom of speech, where my great-grandfather was sent to prison because my grandma wrote an essay about the Second World War that didn't agree with the school curriculum, that I had to be there to defend free speech.
And I think, you know, it doesn't matter what you think of identitarianism, it doesn't matter what your political affiliations are.
Personally, I'm a libertarian.
I had to be there to fight for free speech.
And so, yeah, it was a pleasure.
Now, I've sort of been obsessed with Antifa for a long time.
I was arguably kind of part of that scene in the late 80s and early 90s as an anarcho-punk.
But I've noticed there's a wide disparity between the different types.
Like, here in New York, it's all the rich kids.
It's the sons of academics.
And then you go down to Berkeley, where you'd think that would also be the case.
But Berkeley and Oakland, it's more sort of homeless kids that have been taken in by academics like Yvette Falerca and sort of turned into these lost boys, these sad orphans that are happy to get arrested to serve mommy after getting, you know, food and shelter.
What have you noticed about London, Antifa?
What's the pattern there?
It's actually very interesting that you mention it because in part it is these very, very wealthy kids who just want to be part of a struggle, who want to feel like they're fighting for something.
As a matter of fact, at that King's College event, I was talking to the boy who was organizing it, the chairman of the event, and he told me that they know that the people who are involved from the university in particular were the LGBTQ plus people, the Socialist Society, and the Palestine Action Society.
So it just shows you how these very extremely left-wing movements are willing to always exercise power and aggression against people.
But what I think is most important is that if you go to one of these universities, especially King's, you do usually come from some sort of a middle, middle, upper economic background.
If you can afford to live in London, if you can afford to go to that university.
So a lot of these kids are, as a matter of fact, rather wealthy.
But then I was also talking to some of my friends at the event that I went to on Sunday.
And looking at the photos that we have, it seems of these Antifa people, it seems like they're being picked off the streets, given food, and then, look, we're going to feed you, we're going to give you shelter, but join our movement.
And to be quite honest, they actually look like homeless people.
I mean, they look like they're in their last stages dying from cancer or something.
Yeah, it's a really immoral thing.
We did an article, we did a story recently here about them recruiting the mentally ill.
And when you look back, Britain is especially like this.
It all reeks of class to me.
You look at the English Defense League and all these patriotic groups, Britain First, you can tell by their accents that they're all blue collars, and they're multiracial, by the way.
And then you have Antifa, which is mostly white, but still other races.
And they have a totally different accent.
They've got an upper class accent.
So this whole thing purports to be about fascism and socialism, but it really is about the upper classes telling the lower classes how to behave, don't you think?
Yeah, in a lot of ways, I would definitely agree with you.
I do think that these people just feel perhaps they have this guilt about their economic situation, their race, their sexuality, whatever it is.
And so they want to be part of a movement that kind of brings them down.
And so it seems like they're trying to work their way up or prove their worth, prove that they're, oh, we're not those fascists.
Look, we might be white, we might be heterosexual, we might be whatever else, rich.
But oh, yeah, we're not fascists.
We're going to prove it to you by, you know, bashing people who actually work really hard for their lives, the well-being of their families, and just want to have the right to freedom of speech.
You know, it's a bizarre trait whites have, Westerners have.
You couldn't imagine a Japanese wealthy person or a wealthy Mexican or a successful Muslim complaining about how horrible they are and how they've ruined the world.
I mean, you don't see a lot of rich black guys out there saying, we need to be kept in line.
We need to be put in our place.
We need to apologize.
Sometimes I worry that it's just a genetic thing about whites and Westerners that we need to self-flagellate.
I don't understand why, but it just seems to be a genetic.
Maybe that's why Christianity prospered.
What are your future plans?
Are you going to get, I understand you're studying law.
Are you going to become a pro bono lawyer who fights Antifa?
Yeah, so I doubt that I will have a chance at becoming a lawyer, as a matter of fact, because I don't think anyone would want to employ me now after being a contributor to Breitbart, being a more sort of, you know, center-right, in some ways, quite conservative political activist.
I think that that, especially in London, would be rather difficult.
No, in London, there's going to be a desperate need for lawyers who want to stand up for people like Lauren Southern, who is arrested under a terrorism law for warning people about terrorism.
Yeah, and I was actually about to just get to that.
So I realized meeting all these new people and being active in this political sphere that actually they might also need lawyers.
So, you know, the lefties need lawyers, but so do these people.
And so perhaps, you know, depending on how my career develops, I might get into law and become a practicing lawyer.
But my dream is to be a journalist.
So, you know, if I could be a journalist, I would definitely settle for that full-time.
Well, we're living in a world of lawfare, and there are too many journalists.
So I implore you to abandon that goal, drop journalism completely, and get into law.
They're fighting us with lawfare.
We need soldiers on that front.
Yeah, actually, some legal knowledge was very useful.
You know, people are accusing now Brittany and Lauren of faking the documents they had.
They were given by the Home Office.
But it's absolutely ridiculous since all these civil servants, they're overworked, underpaid.
I mean, who has time to check to proofread this work?
So I've seen documents like this before.
I mean, I wasn't surprised at all.
But obviously, people, you know, need to start attacking them for something.
Yeah, it did.
Those documents are, I think people overestimate the government too.
Those I decided that Lauren can't go in there and I deemed her as a threat.
It's amateur hour, but that doesn't surprise me in the least.
Exactly.
Susanna, thank you for coming on the show.
We like you more than a friend.
My pleasure.
Thank you so much.
Take care, Gavin.
Thank you.
Tommy Robinson is on the go.
He's going across Europe fighting for the West, fighting for Britain, really.
And it's just amazing.
Every time we check in on him, which is about once a week at this point, there's always four new major events.
This relates to our interview yesterday where Martin Selner and Brittany Pettibone were extradited for daring to question Islam and to want to talk to Tommy.
That's literally a crime in Britain now.
And that's the tip of the iceberg.
So let's check in with Tom and the recent developments over there in the canary in the coal mine that is Europe.
Tommy, are you there?
On here.
It is going off, mate.
It is going off.
It's been going off every day.
I said, I've done more punch-ups as a journalist than I did at going to football.
Well, we usually have guests on about once a month to catch up.
I had you on last week, and, you know, my wife's giving me crap for us being on my phone.
I go, there's too much news.
Like, in the past seven days, since we last had you on, there's about four major stories.
Yep, major.
I know.
Since, well, I've gone independent, and since I've gone independent, the gloves are off and just bang.
It's exploded.
I mean, it can't be a coincidence that this is since you left the paywall.
No, it can't.
It certainly can't.
To be honest, I couldn't handle that paywall.
I couldn't handle it.
I couldn't handle the, yeah, I couldn't handle it.
Well, you're just so, you know, you're so well known that you must walk down the street and the populace is instantly polarized into people backing Tommy and people that want to kill you.
Yeah, to be honest, though, for what you see, 99% of the time, I get an amazing reception.
So, in fact, I get a hero's reception, a lot of places to go, which is what keeps giving me the thing to do it, because I know how much it means to other people.
I know that if I was wrong, I wouldn't be getting the support I get when I go places.
There is a minority of far-left extremists or Muslims that want to violently hurt me, but they are a complete minority.
I get a good reception everywhere I go.
I ain't paid for a beer for about two years.
Yeah, I'm in a similar boat.
And the ones that are against us are so shrill and so loud that if you didn't get out of the house much, you'd be apt to think that they are the majority.
But no, it's definitely the West is definitely the predominant force here.
All right, let's go through some of this here.
Let's go back a bit.
So you went to Rome to that no-go zone where that woman, Francesca, Francesca.
You went back to where that Italian woman was.
And this is years later, right?
This is two years later.
I went to Italy.
Italy had just kicked out their left-wing government.
The Liga party went from 4% to 18%.
The right, or what they call the far right, had just taken over the election.
So I wanted to know why.
What's changed?
What's happened here?
So I started researching.
I found a case within the area where a Somalian had put a hospital gown on, he'd gone and got into the bed of a woman in labour, and he'd raped her.
And then I looked at another case where a man was with his wife and four migrants held them down, beat him up and made him watch while they gang raped his wife.
Then I found another case where they chopped an 80, just four weeks ago, they chopped an 18-year-old girl, Italian girl up, put her body in suitcases.
I found another case a week ago where they raped a 75-year-old woman in the park one minute from where you saw that Francesca attacked.
So when I saw all this, I thought I have to go see it with my own eyes.
We were warned against it because of the hostility we'd face.
We went down there and lo and behold, within 30 seconds, we had migrants running at us, attempting to attack my cameraman, telling us they were going to kill us and then going to sleep on the floor.
Yeah, well, their arrogance is amazing, too.
But maybe they're not familiar with British culture, but if I hear your accent and someone says, don't push it, Mike, you're going to be asleep in minutes.
You're going to be straight out.
You're going to get knocked out.
I go, all right, we have an issue here.
Maybe I should dial it down.
But he just comes at you, probably because they keep getting away with it.
Five times, I told him.
Once I pushed him back, and the truth was I didn't want to.
I walk around my hands behind my back because I'm always weary.
I'm going to end up in trouble.
People will turn it on me.
So I'm always like that.
And I asked him and I warned him.
And at the end, I said, right.
And that's when I said, I'm going to warn you now because I don't want you to come after me.
I'm going to turn my back because I wanted to go get in the car.
I'm going to turn my back.
I'm going to get in the car.
If you make a move, then there's only one way it's going.
And then as soon as I turn my back, he comes with his arm in the air.
I was trying to work.
I don't know if he's got a weapon in it when I turn around.
But I hear him say, I'll kill you.
And then, yeah.
Well, you know, you talked about that dismembered teenage girl and the way that her, I don't know if it was her boyfriend or someone who knew her or was just angered by it, committed that racist attack that we heard about in Italy.
Well, that's the only thing you heard about, I bet.
I bet you didn't hear about her getting chopped up in a suitcase.
Exactly.
That took a lot of work to find out.
We just see this psycho.
And then it makes you think, well, wait a minute, what other attacks, what other violence, what other so-called extremism is directly linked to migrant violence, migrant rape, all these refugees wreaking havoc across Europe?
Gavin, when you read the stories, when I'm reading the stories that were happening there, I was researching, I only took me half hour.
They were crimes that are usually seen committed in South Africa or in the Middle East.
This is now mainland Europe.
This is happening across the EU.
These people have been invited in and welcomed in.
And is it any surprise that the Italian people kicked the party and the people responsible for bringing this upon their nation?
Is it any surprise they were kicked out of parliament?
No.
I mean, you import the third world, you get the third world.
And you're right, that gang rape, making the husband watch, that's a really common trick in South Africa with these farmlands.
They love doing that for some reason.
They love doing it.
And these are crimes that we wouldn't have seen.
And the level of the arrogance, that's what got me.
When I saw the female journalist getting attacked, the problem is, the mainstream media would only be happy if I turned around and he stabbed me in the back.
And then it's okay.
because you react to defend yourself, and to be honest, I should have defended myself five times because the minute he took a step, I should have ironed him out, but I didn't.
I warned him, warned him, warned him.
And then, and then there was, yeah, I don't know.
It's just a sad state of affairs.
And it's, you wouldn't think you're in Italy.
No.
Well, on the one hand, I'm mad at the media for not talking about this more, but on the other hand, we see what happens.
Francesca gets attacked.
You get attacked.
That 60 Minutes European woman that's going around again, even though it's kind of old news.
Lara Logan goes to Egypt to report on the thing.
She's getting gang raped.
So maybe one of the reasons we don't hear about it is because these people are such total and utter savages.
I believe even when Lauren Subburn went to Paris, she had journalists telling her, don't go down there.
You can't go down there.
Can't go report down there.
Well, if the journalists aren't going to go report down there, how are people going to know?
We've said now, I want to, by the end of the year, visit every single Islamic no-go zone in Europe.
I want to bring people to let people know this is what's happening.
This is where it is.
I know my wife pulled that paper.
My wife don't know.
I won't tell her.
I won't tell her.
But you know what's so important is that people sitting at home, they need to see it.
They need to see with their own eyes the change in these towns and cities.
They need to see the aggression.
They need to understand that that's never going to be like little Italy again.
That area there is never going to change back.
It's only going to grow and grow.
So unless you stop it now, unless we try and reverse the cycle of what's happening in our continent, unless we do something, it's going to get worse and worse.
And then our children will be next.
Well, that segues into our next point that's happened in the past few days, which is you're in London, there's some big socialist rally.
You go ask some questions, and next thing you know, six Antifa guys attack you.
And what I thought was interesting about this is they go for your camera woman first.
And that's because she's a woman.
I think that's part of it.
But I also think they don't want any of this being documented.
So step one, take out the information.
And then step two, kill Tommy Robinson.
Yeah, they were planned.
Yeah, it was planned.
As soon as they turned up, and to be honest, we were in the car.
I turned around.
We weren't ready.
We weren't ready.
We weren't ready at all.
So I've turned around and there's seven of them coming with masks and balaclavas.
And I thought automatically, and I've said it plenty of times to the cameraman and the camera girl who worked with us.
I've said, they'll go for me.
Don't worry.
They'll go for me.
So if I move away, they're going to go for me.
So as soon as they come, I've backed around.
But they haven't.
They had it planned.
One went straight for the cameraman.
One went straight for the camera girl.
The other four or five come straight for me.
So they had it planned.
And then these are people who claim to defend women.
And here they are violently beating an innocent female journalist to the floor.
And she gave as good as she got.
She was, oh, afterwards, I was so proud.
So I was so like, I was like, Lucy, come here, girl.
She wasn't scared.
She was not scared.
Well, you got some good blows in yourself.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, not as good as Rome, but yeah.
But I was, to be honest, like, you know, the intimidating thing, which is how they play on, is the fact they're all wearing masks.
Now, if six, where I've grown up, if seven men come at me with masks, I'm not getting up, I wouldn't still be here.
I certainly wouldn't be looking like this.
And then now, because of the situation, because of how it's played out online, the left or the far left and even journalists are claiming that I've set it up or something because they look so bad.
They look so bad.
Seven men beaten on one man.
I haven't got a mark on me.
They end up running off.
Absolute cowards.
Yeah, I saw that.
They say it's fake and you hired them and they're actors.
You know, another thing I noticed about that was all these gazers, including black gazers, coming up going, you owed your own money.
Not bad, Tommy.
And they knew your name and they were happy about how you fought.
I mean, it was like you were amongst friends.
Well, the funny thing is, these men who attacked me think they are anti-fascist, anti-racist campaigners.
And straight afterwards, all the black men are coming over, giving me the respect, telling me fair play.
And I've seen it before.
Years ago, when I was in the city of Nottingham, I've come outside a pub and about 20 of them have gone past in all their black clothing.
And they've turned around to attack us as we've come out.
And the first person that steamed full pelt into them was my little mate Isaac, who's black.
And you should have seen their faces.
They're sop on their faces because they think we're here to defend you.
But they're so out of touch.
They're so out of the touch and the circle.
They have no idea.
I love seeing them confused by black patriots.
All right, we're still barely scratching the surface here, and it's only been three days.
Brittany and Martin.
So they go there.
Martin is penalized.
He's detained.
We just had them on the show yesterday.
He's detained and then sent back for daring to want to go to Speaker's Corner, which is ironic.
And then Brittany, her reason was that she dared to intend to interview you.
There you have it.
Interview me and they class me as a far-right leader whose materials and speeches incite racial hatred.
If my materials and speeches incite racial hatred, we have laws in this country against that.
So come and arrest me.
But you can't come and arrest me because I've broke no law because you're lying.
So here we have the Home Office lying as they've done previously in the last terrorism case.
They are building me up on a platform and a pedestal as a hate preacher.
And I believe it's intentionally done.
So when people attack me and I get violence or people want to kill me, the Home Office, counter-terrorism police leaders giving speeches about me, have all played their part.
All I do, the truth is not hate speech.
I just give the truth.
I'm a reporter who finds stories and report on things and they don't like it and they want to silence me.
And I would say that usually I laugh my way through things, but I'm actually extremely concerned about which way this is going.
I've watched the progression and the senior officers, the head of counter-terrorism, Mark Rowley, just come out recently and put me on the same pedestal as Angel Chowdhury.
And Jem Chowdhury is one of the world's worst Islamic terrorists.
Who's in jail right now?
Yeah, he went from saying, so we have Anjem Chowdhury and then we have Tommy Robinson.
And Angel Chowdhury cleverly walked the line for so long, and Tommy Robinson thinks he's doing the same.
And it's like, hold on.
And Jem Chowdhury wants to throw people off rooftops.
He wants to bury women in the floor and smash rocks off their heads.
I want to stop him.
It's not the same.
You can't make it the same.
And that's what they're doing.
And there's no evidence to it.
And I believe they're building me up for a big fool.
I think that in the coming time, you'll be reading stories about me being either imprisoned or what may be worse.
But to say I'm not worried would be a complete lie with the way it's going.
Reading what they're saying, reading the reasons they deported Brittany.
Brittany Pettibo.
And do you know what I've done?
So this Sunday, Brittany's partner was coming to give a speech at Speaker's Corner.
Now, they can stop the speaker, they can't stop the speech.
This Sunday, I'm going to go to Speaker's Corner and I'm going to read his speech.
So whereas they thought they were stopping the situation, now they're going to have thousands of my supporters come into Speaker's Corner.
They're going to have thousands of Muslims coming to Speaker's Corner.
And then, lo and behold, they've caused all this.
They've caused all this because they're trying to take away our free speech.
I'm with Yamam.
I'm worried about this Sunday because the Islamists have taken over Speaker's Corner.
So if you go there by yourself, you're just going to get smothered instantly by people.
If you go there with what you should go there with, which I would say would be 20 people and security, that's going to be 20 versus 50.
That's going to be a riot.
Well, my wife and my mum don't know.
They won't know until Sunday when they meet on the news.
But no, so I'm going there.
This has become bigger than Brittany or Martin Selner.
This has become about 300 years of history at Speaker's Corner.
Some of the most controversial figures in the world, whether it be Karl Marx or whether it be George Orwell, speak and have spoken at Speaker's Corner.
It's part of our country's history, Speaker's Corner.
Martin Selner should have been allowed to come and stand on his little box and give his speech about free speech.
Our government think they're winning by stopping him.
Now, when they see what happens on Sunday, whatever happens on Sunday, I'm just going to go and give the speech.
So it's not my problem to police the streets.
That's the police's job, the government's job.
They have brought this problem upon themselves.
We cannot sit by and allow citizens, law-abiding citizens, from our European countries, from America, Brittany's.
We've seen Lauren Southern this morning.
The same's happened to her from Canada.
We can't allow them to win by thinking they can silence and stop every single voice that is critical of Islam.
What they will find out is that the voice grows and it gets louder and louder because of their actions.
Well, Tommy, I couldn't have said it better myself.
You know, we're all worried about you.
We're all worried about this tension, but the truth must come out.
And the truth is, Britain is British.
It's not Sharia.
It's not Islam.
We have free speech.
We were supposed to have free speech.
You know, when Martin Selner gave me a speech, and I said, to be honest, I couldn't care if that's the Communist Manifesto.
Because the reason I'm giving this speech is because they're trying to stop it.
And they should not be taking away people's rights and freedoms because they're concerned of how a violent section of our country will react.
If you're worried about how that violent section will react, then if you need the military to come down there, you bring the military down there.
Because you should need to protect the man with a controversial speech more so because that's part of our God-given rights.
So, yeah.
That's so true.
And to acquiesce is to hand them a rapier and say, stab me.
It's not like you're handing over the power to someone who's going to be benevolent.
It's like giving a vampire a drop of blood.
He's just going to want more.
He's going to want more.
And to be honest, this is how I just don't know how they don't learn from this.
When they make these decisions, I think, well, you've done it again.
Like, Martin Selner would have gone to Speaker's Corner.
There would have been 30, 50 people turn up.
That's it.
And Brittany Peter and Brittany, they didn't want her to come and interview me.
Last night, I flew out to Vienna.
I sat and done an interview with her.
It's going to go out probably later tonight.
The interview they tried to ban.
That interview is going to get 10 times as many views, probably 100 times as many views as it would have done.
So every time they make a decision like this, it just backfires.
They're maleficent, then they're incompetent.
Malicious.
Tommy, thanks for coming on the show.
Best of luck this Sunday.
Please keep us posted.
I have a feeling we'll need you back in a week and we'll have another 30 different events to discuss.
Thanks, Kevin.
Cheers, pal.
Cheers, man.
Cheers, man.
By the way, my brother forgot to mention the New York Post.
No escape.
Five white males died.
Ooh, wah.
Five privileged males are dead.
This is like South Africa.
Oh, I feel so sorry for white colonists because their white privilege literally blew up in their face.
Sorry.
I care about the oppressed.
And I care about racism.
Check this out.
This, I think, is in China somewhere.
But for all the progress that we made since Jim Crow, there are other countries that are still stuck in this quagmire of brutal racism.
You want to get offended?
Well here we go.
What's up, Jell?
What's up?
What's up?
You're doing that, what's up?
What's up?
You like to play a game?
What's up?
You like to play a game?
I'm going to play a game.
I'm going to play a game.
Really funny.
Really funny.
That's enough.
So it's worth remembering that for all the strides we've made, we still have a long way to go, and racism is alive and well all over the world.
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