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	Hey boys, I was the Kingsman.
	Louie Louie, probably the greatest song ever made.
	In fact, I have an album of Louie Louie covers.
	Actually, that's a cover.
	It's an old Jamaican song.
	Me find little grocery waits for me.
	Me catch a ship across the sea.
	It was considered offensive back when it came out in the 60s, I guess.
	But then the authorities decided, no, these lyrics are unintelligible at any speed.
	We got a hell of a show for you tonight, but before we get started, do you like my outfit?
	This song was from my favorite film, Animal House.
	And I got this outfit for CPAC.
	See?
	You can do what you want to us, but I'm not going to sit here and let you bad-mouth the American people.
	I don't think he's empty.
	The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or took a few liberties with our female party guests.
	We did.
	And then he winks at Dean Werner because he had sex with Dean Werner.
	But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few sick, perverted individuals.
	Or if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system?
	And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general?
	I put it to you, Greg.
	Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?
	Wow.
	Beautiful, beautiful moment.
	Wait a minute.
	That's not today's newspaper.
	Shoot, I forgot to bring it.
	Who cares?
	Let's get rolling here.
	We don't have time.
	Jam-packed show for you today.
	We have my favorite author of all time, the author of Death of the West, which changed my life forever.
	I read it around September 11th, and it was a political awakening for me and a lot of people I know.
	He's the original red pillar, the OG red pill, Pat Buchanan.
	We're not going to talk about Death of the West, though.
	We're going to be talking about Churchill, Hitler, and the unnecessary war, because Churchill's hot right now, and this is the only thing I've ever read that says, we shouldn't have done that.
	We should have just given him some embargoes and given him Danzig in Poland and the whole.
	We could have avoided two world wars.
	I'll touch on this a little bit, too, on it.
	And then we have Amanda House coming by.
	She is the deputy political editor at Breitbart News.
	She co-hosts the Breitbart News show on Saturday and Sunday on the weekends on Sirius Patriot.
	If you listen to that on your car on the weekends.
	But these interviews, I want to spend so much time on them that I don't have any more time to do an intro.
	So let's start with Pat and then we'll get to Amanda.
	This is a hot time for Churchill.
	He's hot.
	He's also dead.
	We've got lots of Hollywood movies talking about him and it made me curious to sort of go back over his life.
	This is an incredible book, Candace Millard, Hero of the Empire.
	And it's basically about what an incredible hero Churchill was in the Boer War in South Africa and how he helped win it by escaping from a POW camp, originally as a war reporter.
	But I'm reading between the lines, and I'm not sure Millard intended this, but I'm thinking, this guy's a bit of a douche.
	I mean, he came from a long line of aristocrats and war heroes, and I think he was determined to make his mark.
	Logic be damned.
	And I started to notice that with World War II and World War I, where this guy seemed more intent on winning battles than he did on minimizing deaths.
	He was also a drunk, and I couldn't help but think liquid courage is part of history.
	Anyway, I'm demeaning my next guest, Pat Buchanan, by speaking in crude manners, but I'm a dummy.
	I'm like a dumb guy pretending to be a smart guy pretending to be a dumb guy.
	It's still a dumb guy twice in that scenario.
	But I was rereading Buchanan's book, Churchill History and the Unnecessary War, How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.
	And in this book, which is heaven on earth, Pat Buchanan is the best writer in America.
	I'm sorry.
	It's amazing how much information he sort of Trojan horses into your brain by speaking in a congenial manner.
	It's just like listening to a smart friend.
	And the best thing to do in that scenario, by the way, is just sit back and sip your brandy.
	In this interview with Buchanan, you're going to see a guy floundering and coming up with bad analogies, trying to keep up with the big guy.
	But here's the narrative with World War II, all right?
	Evil Hitler Nazi comes along, is going to take over the world.
	America and Britain get together.
	There might have been a Russian or two involved.
	And they contain the Nazis, free the slaves, and everyone's happy.
	And I've seen this narrative play out again and again, and it's playing out right now with Dunkirk and The Darkest Hour.
	But even in those Hollywood versions of things, like you watch The Darkest Hour and you see, wait a minute, he had a chance to negotiate a ceasefire, to negotiate peace, and he ignored it.
	Why?
	And you realize, wait a minute, it's conceivable that all Hitler wanted was Danzig, a part of Poland that was originally German, and had millions of Germans in it.
	You know, it was sort of like the Falklands when, here goes my bad analogies, by the way, when the guy from Argentina said, I want the Falklands back, and Thatcher said, you never had the Falklands, and then demanded to keep it.
	We went to war.
	Everyone in the Falklands Was British, had British accents.
	The Danzigs were German, so he should have just let him have it.
	But instead, he guaranteed Poland would keep Danzig, which was a dumb move, and later threw Poland to the wolves and allowed concentration camps and all kinds of death over there in Poland.
	Just shrugged his shoulders as he let Stalin desecrate that entire country.
	So it's a matter of reconciling these two narratives.
	The one where Hitler just wanted one thing and we sort of forced him into war and killed, how many people died in World War II?
	Upwards of 80 million in total.
	20 million, I believe.
	The lowest number I've heard is 60 million.
	But 20 million of those were Russians, fighting barefoot, no guns.
	I think at the end, we just had Germans who were dying of guilt after just mowing down thousands of Germans, thousands of Russians a day.
	I'm going to hell.
	So this is the original narrative.
	When you look at this chart, right?
	You scroll along it, and you see a guy.
	You see, 1940, it looks, you know, semi-reasonable.
	I don't know what the hell he's doing up in Finland, but then it starts progressing with Italy, and now we start to see this problem where we've got all of France and North Africa, and we start drifting in to Greece slowly.
	Look at that.
	So now we have Eastern Europe, we've got Greece, we've got the Balkans, we've got some neutral countries.
	Spain, it's telling that he didn't invade Spain because Buchanan's contention is he didn't want a westward war.
	He doesn't have a navy.
	He's already seen in World War I that going east and west at the same time doesn't work.
	So just let him have that.
	And if he wants to go east, here's the controversial part.
	Let him go east.
	Yes, he hates gypsies and Jews and all that stuff.
	That's horrible, horrific.
	But Stalin's worse.
	So let's let him spread up, destroy Stalin, and then let him die on his own.
	Remember, what was it, Henry Kissinger said of the Iran-Iraq war?
	Oh, can't they both lose?
	And I don't want to put words in Buchanan's mouth, but I think he was saying, let Hitler spread east and let them both lose.
	So this narrative of this, I shouldn't say narrative because you're looking at a chart, but this chart of the red plague, the Axis powers spreading, and then eventually America and Britain and Stalin uniting to slowly push it back, isn't as simple as it seems.
	In fact, all this red, the Axis powers you see on this chart here, eventually being pushed back is more and more death, Russian deaths, Jewish deaths, American and British deaths that we didn't need.
	So yes, this chart, from a layman's perspective, looks like red guy, and that's a bad color to use, red, because it makes me think of a communist, but Nazi guy spreading, getting contained.
	But I don't think it's that.
	It's Nazi guys starting to spread, heading east, and then other people getting involved and almost forcing Hitler's hand.
	Again, no one is defending Hitler.
	We're allowed to have open discussions.
	But the reason all of this is relevant is not just because Churchill's back in the public eye and everyone's talking about him.
	I think the BBC's got a big thing about an illicit affair he had.
	He's hot.
	But the bigger picture here is the conflict, this obsession with Nazis and fascists, and this total pass we give communists.
	Mao killed 80 million.
	Stalin killed 40 million.
	Hitler, horrific, killed 6 million.
	80 million is much worse than 6 million.
	6 million is terrible.
	But in America today, we've got Oliver Stone talking about how awesome Stalin is.
	It's cool to have a Mao t-shirt.
	We've got Shea Guevara hats on.
	We're talking, Bernie Sanders is a proud socialist that all these students are voting for.
	Socialism is cool, and Nazis are the worst thing.
	They're both the worst thing.
	So I don't understand why we have this obsession with fascism when it tends to cannibalize itself anyway.
	And I'll talk about that with Buchanan, the head of the British Fascist Party, ended up siding with his own country because fascists are parochial.
	Any Hoosers, let's talk to Mr. Buchanan and try to see what the smart people have to say about this subject.
	Mr. Buchanan, are you there, sir?
	I certainly am, Davin, right here.
	Wonderful.
	Now, we're in a funny time here.
	We're in an epoch of Churchill Mania.
	Excuse me.
	We've got Dunkirk, the movie, The Darkest Hour.
	I think the BBC is doing something about an illicit affair he had.
	And it's making a lot of people sort of go back over his life.
	And I just finished Hero of the Empire by Candice Millard.
	And I also went back over your book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
	Right.
	And this guy is turning out to be a little more complex than Hollywood is portraying him as.
	Let me talk to that.
	What you're seeing in both movies, and I've seen both movies, Dunkirk and the other one is The Darkest Hour.
	They focus on a period of Churchill's life, which was really basically a couple of weeks.
	I mean, after the Germans came into France in May 10th, and you had, towards the end of May, the British retreat from Dunkirk, and you had the decision by Churchill not to accept any offers of negotiation, but to pursue the war.
	And Churchill himself, those were his finest hours in the Battle of Britain later on that summer.
	So I think that's a great moment in Churchill's life, but he came into the cabinet in 1911, into the cabinet as a major figure as the first Lord of the Admiralty in 1911, and his career ran through 1945 and again back in 1951 to 55, where he was Prime Minister.
	So if you take the sweep of his entire career, I think he's a heroic figure.
	He's a brave man.
	He's extraordinarily eloquent and gifted.
	But he was an utter disaster For the cause in which he believed, which was the British Empire and the retention of that empire and the greatness of that nation.
	I mean, he led his country into two world wars.
	He was enthusiastic about them.
	Britain declared war on Germany in both of those wars.
	And Churchill was all for that when the Germans, whether it was the Kaiser or even Hitler, evil as he was, did not want war with Great Britain.
	Yeah.
	Well, even though watching Dunkirk, it seems kind of easy.
	Even when you watch the Hollywood narrative, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	In Dunkirk, I see, you know, local citizens with fishing boats rescue basically all of Britain's army, and it starts to look like Hitler let them win that particular struggle.
	Well, I think there are cases been made that Hitler did not want British prisoners.
	Secondly, he did not want to humiliate the British Empire.
	He was a great admirer of the British Empire.
	He did not want to rub their noses in a defeat.
	He wanted, after he had overrun France, to end the war.
	There was nothing more for him to gain.
	I mean, he had France, as it were.
	He had not wanted a war in the West ever.
	As I said, he admired the British Empire.
	He wanted it to be preserved.
	And he did not want to humiliate Great Britain, and he wanted to cut a deal.
	And then, I mean, Churchill could have gotten an excellent deal where he was in June of 1940.
	And after the Battle of Britain, which the British won, shooting down all those Heinkel and Dohertier bombers and measuresmiths, he could have gotten an even better deal.
	I don't know that the Germans wanted anything from him.
	Yeah, well, I emailed you earlier that YouTube video.
	And in 1940, everything in your book makes sense.
	And I'm sorry, your whole book makes perfect sense.
	It's hard to fit in one's head because it's the only book that makes this contrarian argument that I've seen.
	No, well, I'll tell you, I read about 120 books, not all of them.
	I mean, not all of them in their entirety.
	But there are a number of British critics and fine writers who were quoted in that book.
	I think it's 1,500 footnotes there.
	And many of them argued about the blunders and mistakes Churchill was responsible for or participated in.
	Let me give you one of the crucial ones.
	The war began for Great Britain.
	They declared war on Germany because the Germans had invaded Poland, which would not negotiate the return of Danzig, which was a German city unjustly taken away from Germany in violation of the terms Woodrow Wilson put down and in violation of the right of self-determination.
	Now, why would the British declare that they're going to go to war on Germany, a country they could not defeat, for a nation, Poland, they had no chance of defending?
	They did not defend.
	They did not really fight.
	And they gave a war guarantee to a nation that was not in their vital interest.
	And the reason they did that, I think, was panic, that they had been humiliated by Hitler at Munich, or thought they were, and that Czechoslovakia had collapsed and Hitler had taken pieces of it.
	And therefore, they issued a war guarantee to a country, Poland, which had participated in the breakup of Czechoslovakia, which was not a democracy, which they could not defend.
	And then they declared war on Germany after Germany and the Russians had torn Poland apart.
	Why did they not end the war then?
	Churchill, I mean, the British had failed.
	They hadn't protected Poland.
	They sent bombers over Germany with leaflets.
	And Hitler wanted to end it after the Polish-German war was over.
	Why did the Brits continue it?
	Especially when Churchill, who came, as I said, came to power around May 10th after his disaster in Norway, that Churchill knew that the British alone could not invade, overrun, and force Germany to surrender.
	They couldn't defeat Germany.
	The only way they could defeat them is bring in the great powers, the Americans or the Russians, and that would end up with Stalin in charge of Central Europe.
	Did he want that?
	That's what he got, and that's what he had to know would have happened.
	Well, that seems to be the theme that keeps coming up in the book, is what is the lesser of two evils, communism or fascism?
	Well, that's one.
	That's it exactly.
	But Britain does have interests in Europe.
	What they should have done when the Germans invaded Poland was quite simple.
	You know, they should have taken their army and moved it into France and said, look, here's our line.
	If you cross this line into Belgium, Holland, or Luxembourg, or France, you're at war with Great Britain.
	Churchill would not have attacked.
	He didn't want war with France.
	If he'd have wanted war with France, he would have demanded the return of Alsace-Lorraine, which had been taken away from him, the Germans in World War I. But again, he took every step to avoid a war with the West because there was nothing in the West that he wanted or could have.
	He couldn't have a worldwide empire.
	He had no navy.
	His navy was one-third the size of the British, locked up in the Baltic Sea and opposite the Kiel Canal.
	I mean, the point of it is, I don't defend, and no one defends, the character of Adolf Hitler and what he subsequently did was horrendous.
	But if there had been no war guarantee to Poland, there would have been no war.
	And if there had been no war, there would have been no Holocaust.
	So much of this just comes down to the evils of communism and Westerners ignoring the evils of communism.
	I mean, you hear Churchill praising Stalin again and again, and it reminds me of the New York Times take on Stalin, and even modern times with Hollywood, with Oliver Stone excusing, you know, Holo Domor and all these massive genocides.
	They had genocides of Germans.
	We had two million die when they were forced to move, and 750,000 starved to death in the blockades.
	Well, let me say this.
	What was the starvation blockade of World War I, which I think was...
	It was Churchill that began the bombing of cities.
	He bombed German cities, and the Germans repeatedly told him to stop it, and then they came back and bombed London.
	But that was retaliation for what the British had done.
	They were the first to introduce this strategic bombing, which is one of the reasons city bombing was not an issue discussed at Nuremberg as a war crime.
	I mean, early before the war, FDR said, God help us, I hope we don't get to the bombing of cities.
	And pretty soon you've got Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, Cologne, Berlin.
	So, but let me say this.
	I mean, you know, I'm as much an anti-communist as anyone, but you have to look at the vital interest of your country, what you can do and what you can't do.
	You know, I was marching around Georgetown with an M1 rifle in ROTC when the Khrushchev sent tanks into Hungary and rolled over those patriots who had risen up.
	And Eisenhower did exactly nothing.
	He said, this is horrible.
	It is atrocious what Khrushchev is doing.
	But it is not a vital interest to where we can justify risking a war with a nuclear-armed power.
	So I'm not going in.
	And as a matter of fact, we're going to have to talk to Khrushchev, and he invited him to the United States.
	Gavin, I was right outside the White House when Khrushchev walked by.
	We were all silent watching him.
	Unbelievable.
	All right.
	Let's get down to layman's terms because I'm dumb and my viewers are around the same IQ.
	You're President Buchanan.
	The Danzig blunder has already happened.
	The Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor.
	How do you proceed?
	Well, if the Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor, you've got to fight the Japanese, and I don't disagree at all with how we fought them.
	We decided it's all-out war, and we're going to finish off not only the we're not only going to pay them back, but we're going to finish off the Japanese Empire, which by 1942 was in control of the Philippines and much of Southeast Asia and the coast of China.
	And so I think the United States fought that war correctly.
	And when Hitler stupidly declared war on the United States in December 10th or December 11th, 1941, when he didn't have to, his treaty with Japan required him to come to Japan's defense if Japan had been attacked.
	But Japan had started the war and everyone knew it.
	So stupidly, he declares war on the United States and a year later, and then Italy declares war on the United States.
	Mussolini, what a fool.
	And so the Americans, you know, I had uncles, all four of them, fought in the ETO.
	But I think we did what we had to do.
	But what we did should have realized, and what the FDR did not seem to realize, is that when we went to war against Germany, with Britain at our side in the West and the Russians in the East, and Hitler had been stopped and his armies had been stopped, that Germany was going to lose the war.
	But the Soviet Empire, the Soviet Union, was going to wind up in the middle of Europe conquering all the countries that Hitler had initially conquered or initially allied with.
	And that he was a greater monster than Hitler, a far greater danger, given the size of his country and its resources, than Germany ever was.
	I mean, the Soviet Union must be 20 times the size of Germany.
	So maybe it would have been good for the Nazis to go and kick Stalin's ass, and then we could clean up the Nazi mess easier than we could clean up the communist mess.
	Well, go back, Google Harry Truman, Nazis and Bolsheviks, and what he said in 1941, I believe it was.
	Yes, it had to be because Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in June of 1941.
	He said, you know, if the Bolsheviks are losing, we help them.
	And if the Nazis are losing, we help them in order that these two folks just keep on fighting.
	And that's a benefit to us, although I don't want to see the Nazis win in any event.
	I mean, the Nazis were, I mean, when I was a kid, and, you know, we're Roman Catholic and everything, the Bolsheviks and communism were far more greatly feared and despised than Hitler's Germany, which was not admired at all, but it was not seen as a threat to us.
	But in the long term, the Soviet Union was.
	And that analysis was correct.
	It's funny, we still see this in 2018.
	We have the mainstream media obsessed with Nazis, like they're looming around every corner.
	I mean, if you were to wear a Hitler tote bag, you would be stoned to death.
	But you see Mao and Che Guevara and all this socialist claptrap everywhere when you look at the death toll and they're not even comparable.
	No, I mean, there's a quote in my book that is from a historian, American historian, and I just read it last night.
	And it was, if you take the date September 1, 1939, when the war began, the number of victims of Stalin's murders and massacres and concentrations camps exceeded Hitler's 1,000 to 1.
	Hitler had opened up Dachau after the Reichstag fire, and it was a concentration camp.
	It wasn't what they called a death camp.
	And he had a number of people imprisoned there for political and other reasons.
	In the Knight of the Long Knives, they had murdered a number of people, mostly SA people, but even ex-prime ministers were murdered.
	That was in 1934, I believe.
	But, I mean, these were the great atrocities, that in Kristallnach, before the war began.
	And as I say, Stalin's victims were a thousand times greater, and Mao's would be greater than Stalin's.
	But communism is not regarded as as great an evil as Nazism now.
	And the reason is, of course, the folks who are producing the films and things are mainly folks on the left for whom the right is always the greater demonic enemy.
	Right.
	Well, I thought one of the most fascinating little snippets, and it's only maybe a sentence here, is you were talking about how fascism doesn't take, because it's very particular to that.
	Nationalism is particular to that nation.
	And you talked about the head of the British Union of Fascists, Oswald Mosley.
	When Hitler declared war on Britain, he obviously sided with Britain because that was his allegiance.
	His allegiance, it's not like Islam, where it goes above your countrymen.
	His allegiance was to his country.
	So he said, Goodbye, fascist Hitler.
	I don't like you.
	I want to fight against you.
	And I think that's what would happen as fascism spread.
	Well, this is true.
	Generally, these fascist and right-wing movements that arose in Europe out of fear, many of them out of fear of Bolshevism, which was a transnational faith, if you will, a transnational movement.
	I mean, Trotsky wanted to immediately make the whole world communist.
	His army drove up to the Vistula River in Poland, raided Warsaw and had the merico of the Vistula in around 1920.
	But if you take what happens with Salazar in Portugal and General Franco in Spain and even Mussolini I of them in Italy, and you take in Hungary, they had Admiral Horthy, who took over when Bolsheviks tried to take it over, and Hitler in Germany, and the Communists in 1920 had Karl Liebknick and the woman that was murdered.
	They were all right-wing regimes in reaction to the Bolsheviks, and they were all deeply nationalistic and ethno-nationalistic.
	In other words, but that, again, because they were not transnational, they really didn't deeply concern themselves about what was happening among their neighbors.
	It was all about them and their country and their nation and the bulk and the ideology and all the rest of it.
	But the ideology, I mean, there was a silver abundance here in the United States, but it was nothing compared to the Communist Party of the United States and the Communist movement and the penetration by Stalin's agents of FDR's government from the 30s into the 40s.
	And the Nazis had nothing like that because they weren't a transnational movement.
	I hope people's curiosity about Churchill leads to the point where they discover his hypocrisy via Stalin and his hypocrisy via the communist regimes.
	Tell the folks they'll find a lot of us in Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan.
	I'll do just that.
	Thank you very much for coming on the show.
	You take it easy.
	Bye-bye.
	Cheers.
	That's my baby long, baby long Amanda House, are you there?
	I'm here.
	Hi.
	How's it going?
	Going well.
	Going well.
	It's a good Tuesday.
	It is a good Tuesday.
	I've been watching the news a lot, and I'm learning a lot from teenagers.
	Apparently, it's important that we boycott anyone who supports the NRA, including airlines and FedEx, to make our voices heard.
	Yeah, this is definitely an interesting turning point in this whole post-Florida tragedy, post-you know, we're talking about gun control, whatnot.
	And now we have these, you know, especially, well, the media essentially exploiting, and from what I'm seeing, exploiting these children that have gone through a huge tragedy and are suffering and probably don't need to be put into the spotlight.
	But we see them using these children to advocate their leftist agenda.
	This is, you know, it's an anti-gun, anti-NRA, anti-constitutional rights agenda.
	And instead of focusing back on school safety, which remember, Florida had nothing to do really with gun control.
	It had to do with just complete incompetence and negligence on behalf of not only the local, but also the federal government.
	And there was multiple warning signs, dozens of those that were ignored.
	But instead of talking about that, the left and especially Broward County is pointing the finger at gun control.
	And of course, like you just mentioned, we have multiple teenagers who when I was 16, 17, I didn't even know probably how to mail a FedEx package, let alone their business model or their partnerships.
	But of course, they're virtue signaling that we have to cut ties with not only FedEx, but Delta, Amazon Prime, I mean, you name it, all of these organizations that might give a discount to their NRA members.
	Of course, yesterday we actually saw a victory on behalf of the right.
	FedEx actually put out a statement saying that they were not going to be cutting ties with their deal with the NRA, which was a huge victory for the right, probably the first victory that we've seen on the right against corporate warfare.
	And that's essentially what this is, Gavin.
	I mean, this is the left using mob, you know, threats, like mob threat to force organizations to bow down to their wants and their needs.
	And of course, you know, in this case, it is anti-gun, anti-NRA.
	Anti-everything that the right stands for and fights for.
	And fortunately, FedEx did put their foot down and say, no, we're not going to do this.
	We're going to keep doing what we've always been doing, and that is giving discounts, benefits to both the right and the left.
	And that was definitely a huge victory.
	And their stocks are going through the roof.
	I think it's funny that these people.
	Who would have known that if you actually do right by your customers, that people will invest in you.
	Who would have guessed?
	Well, especially in America.
	It's like when Will Smith did that movie about how football is evil and it gives you concussions.
	The elites, the CEOs, the marketing people, the media, they don't know America.
	America loves football, Will Smith.
	America loves guns.
	And you're so out of touch to think that we're all going to flock to these boycotts because a teenager is in a bad mood.
	Right.
	And I mean, this is, I mean, the argument against this, of course, it all came because of, you know, down in Georgia, they decided they were going to say no to the Delta's tax break that they've been trying to push for for jet fuel.
	And there, you know, a lieutenant general down there who's running for governor, he said, if you guys are going to be playing a viewpoint politics, viewpoint, you know, identity, whatever, we're not going to play your game.
	If you want to play ball, we're going to play it with you.
	And we're going to do exactly what you're doing to our NRA members.
	Of course, Georgia being an extremely conservative state, controlled by the Republicans in their state legislator.
	And the counter-argument is we don't want government picking winners and losers.
	So the argument of these legislators was: well, you guys already started picking winners and losers by discounting the NRA.
	And in a perfect world, sure, we shouldn't be telling corporations, the government should be telling corporations what to do and what not to do.
	But this is not a perfect world.
	The left is already doing this.
	We see this down in Texas, telling different companies that if they help with the building of the wall, then they're going to be disadvantaged in one way or another.
	But let's be honest, Gavin, like these companies shouldn't be getting tax breaks to begin with.
	So that, of course, being the Delta airline industry company.
	But FedEx saw that and said, oh, hold on.
	We don't want to make the same mistake.
	We're going to just kind of back out of this, stay out of politics, which is a big good move as we've seen all these other sort of leftist companies making this mistake with the NFL, whatever you want to, all those examples you just mentioned.
	It's never a good move to sort of lose touch with your base and lose touch with your family.
	That's whatever.
	Charles Marie and coming apart.
	They've lost touch.
	The elites have lost touch with America.
	And I understand that United and Delta have only ever used water pistols for their air marshals.
	They never use actual guns.
	So they can get on their high horse.
	Let's cut the crap here.
	What's really going on is these teenagers have a lot in common with the left.
	They don't care about bump stocks.
	They don't care about AR-15s or magazines.
	They want total and utter gun bans.
	They want to repeal the Second Amendment.
	Well, this is what the left does.
	It's just this never-ending push.
	You give an inch and they take a mile.
	When they say, oh, we just want to, you know, change the age limit from 18 to 21.
	No, it's not going to stop there.
	Again, not to mention that this conversation has nothing to do with gun control.
	The Florida shooting could have been stopped if the law agencies, law enforcement officials had done their jobs.
	And what, 39 times being called to his house, reported now maybe even 45 calls.
	Can you imagine someone calling you 45 to maybe 39 times and not doing anything?
	This has nothing to do with gun control.
	Yet, here we have these children who, they're 15, 16, 17 years old, potentially being given talking points from maybe their mentors or their parents or whomever, or maybe even just getting such positive feedback from the networks, the CNNs out there that are saying, oh, good job, good job.
	Let's put you back on camera.
	It's just not how we should be handling situations where children are suffering and going through a lot that no child should ever have to do.
	They're talking about background checks.
	I believe the NRA and Dana Lash said, according to the rules that we advocate, this guy wouldn't have been able to buy a gun.
	This guy would have been handled a long time ago.
	We're on that side.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	This was a complete failure on behalf of potentially some of the school, the Obama administration school pushes to sort of try to end that school to prison pipeline.
	And they stopped calling in some of the different, I guess, violent behavior that some of their students were having.
	We'll be putting up a story about that.
	Actually, we put up a story last night about it, but we'll continue to look into that, curbing some of the discipline at these schools.
	The reason we have to watch the left, and Tucker Carlson was talking about this last night, it always ends up being a slippery slope.
	Gay marriage sounded good.
	I've supported it.
	And then it became bullying bakers and trying to shut down Catholicism in general, making Christianity.
	They will never be happy, and it's always going to be something else.
	Now, speaking of being happy, let's get to what's really important here.
	You're in a city where I believe 2% of the populace voted for Trump.
	Republicans don't like in there because he wants to drain the swamp.
	How are we going to find you, Mr. Wright?
	Oh, man, that's a tough question.
	It's a question that I think a lot of my friends here, it's a very small town.
	I know you're in New York, and it's probably a little similar, but here it's definitely a small town if you are a conservative and not just a conservative, but a Trump supporter, you know, someone that there's some never Trumpers here, but really those on the further, you know, Trump spectrum, I guess as you want to call it, there's so few of us.
	And especially working at Breitbar, you know, it's definitely a big taboo.
	And yeah, dating is not really a thing.
	I mean, you can do it.
	There's obviously some of the more like Tinders, which I don't think I've ever used that one.
	But there's other ones kind of like that.
	And I find actually now many of my friends are just saying right up front, I am a Trump supporter.
	Like they're a profile picture as a MAGA hat, just to sort of weed out, because the worst thing is when you go to a date, which I've been on multiple of these, where, you know, we were raised not to mention politics until further along in the relationship or, you know, maybe date three at the earliest.
	Those just aren't conversations that we were raised to have.
	But now I find that if you don't have those conversations, even before, you know, meeting or whatever, it's going to be bad.
	I've actually had somebody get up on a date and walk out.
	It's never good.
	And it's so, it's just embarrassing.
	My sister actually mentioned on one of her dates that her sister, me, works at Breitbart.
	And they just, the rest of the date was how much he hated Breitbart and how much, you know, they could never be together.
	They would never work out because I worked.
	It's like, wow, like just because your sister works somewhere, that's crazy.
	That's so much vitriol, too.
	Like, I had lunch once with the guy.
	I think he co-founded Mike or Vox or something.
	And Ann Coulter came up and he talked about how he would like to skin her alive, how she should be boiled alive.
	And it's like, I don't like the left.
	I don't like Rachel Maddow, but I don't even want to put a pie in her face.
	I don't really feel that animosity.
	Well, the Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.
	And these people really, they have physical reactions.
	It's not just emotion.
	It's actually, I feel as if they can't even be in the same room with someone that supports Trump or writes for Breitpart or whatever.
	And it's not the best town to find your significant other if you are on the right.
	Even if you're like, you look like if you had food poisoning, you couldn't go below an eight and then dressed up for like a show or a ball.
	You'd definitely be killing it in the nine zone.
	And even you are having trouble with this Trump thing.
	And I think that's a reflection of just how our society has shifted over the past few decades, probably even arguably over the past decade, in that it is now more and more important not just to find somebody that you agree on in terms of like, oh, we both like soccer, we both like this, we both want two kids, but it's, you know, now finding someone that you believe, you know, the same ideology, the same political beliefs is so important because these are the conversations now that we're having every night at the dinner table.
	Every place we go, politics has, you know, sort of seeped into it, like the NFL, like, you know, you name it, politics has kind of gotten itself in there.
	And it's so difficult to have a conversation without bringing up politics or some sort of, you know, political whatever.
	And so, yeah, absolutely.
	Quickly establishing what you believe in and where you fall seems to be the norm now, which, of course, you know, 10 years ago, that just wasn't the case.
	I guess.
	I mean, I'm married to a vegan liberal who voted for Hillary, but we have so many babies now, we can't separate.
	I think you should cut your hair short, dye it blue, wear a bring Obama back shirt, and every time someone mentions Trump, say, how stupid do they think we are?
	And then get a ring on it, and then you can grow your hair back and be normal again.
	Funny you say that.
	I was doing some of the sort of protest coverage outside of the DNC, and very quickly, the Antifa, the resistance, they spotted like my peak iPhone, and I was wearing grungy outfits.
	I was sort of like trying to blend in with the crowd.
	Nope, they called me out within moments and said, she's not one of us.
	Get her out.
	They can sense it.
	We went twice as long as the time we had allotted.
	You're so charming that time is just, it's like hanging out with the flash.
	And I can't even see you.
	I'm just talking to myself over here.
	Well, we're about the same gorgeousness.
	I'm also high eights, low nines kind of a looker.
	I can tell from your profile pic, for sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right, Amanda, I'd love to have you back.
	Thanks so much for coming on the show.
	Thank you.
	See you later.
	night Well, you can do what you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you, bad mouth, the United States of America.
	gentlemen You're not walking out of this one, mister.
	You're finished.
	More Delta.
	You bought it this time, Buster.
	I'm calling your national office.
	All right, that's enough.
	I'm going to revoke yourself.
	I don't like it when he bangs that thing because it's called a gavel and it sounds close to Gavin and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
	I just, I love that movie because it's the first time I've ever seen, and I was a young man when I saw it, and I thought, yeah, why do we imbue authority on all these people?
	They're going to kick us out of school?
	Fine.
	This school's stupid.
	It's a great anarchist, all-American film because it says, don't let someone else tell you what to do.
	And I've noticed that people call us conservatives, the Niedermeyer and the Dean Werner.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	We're the ones getting kicked off campus.
	We're the ones breaking the rules.
	We're the ones in big trouble who get fired, who get kicked off social media.
	We're the ones who get arrested.
	We're the ones who get attacked, who get hit with baseball bats when we go to the bathroom by these insane antifa lunatics.
	So I'm afraid that the right is the in-crowd now.
	Not the in-crowd, the cool crowd, the freaks, the monsters.
	We're the weirdos.
	And you, liberal mainstream media, are the squares.
	You don't take any risks.
	You let people boss you around.
	You say the police are corrupt and the government's wrong, and then you say the government should take our guns and regulate more things.
	God, you're a bunch of nerds.
	Anyway, this was the paper I meant to have, ticking time bomb.
	Got the thorgish Noah Syndergaard on the front and something about de Blasio the pothead being late all the time.
	Who cares?
	I hope you had a fun show.

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