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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
Sorry, guys, you can look that up on your own.
That's, I don't like Mondays.
I want to shoot the whole day down, down, down, bring it on down.
Oh, look at my notes in there.
That's the Boomtown Rats, led by Bob Geldoff, that live-aid guy that is about a shooting at Grover Elementary School.
I think it was in San Diego back in 1979, where a girl, teenage girl, 16-year-old, went and shut up a school, shot up a bunch of adults and teachers.
And that is the subject of today's show, obviously.
How many times?
I want to give my guests breathing room, so I don't have much of an intro.
But you know the story.
Guy named Jesus, his mother just died of the flu.
Speaking of Jesus, you can still see my ashes from Ash Wednesday on my head.
He shot up.
His mother just died.
I don't know what the impetus was.
We still don't really know the motive.
Probably insane.
We're going to talk about motives.
We're going to talk about guns.
We have John Lott on the show.
And it's all very intense and sad.
So we'll end this episode with a very fun look at supermodels beating up people in action movies and black women being injected into all American history in this new sort of politically correct rewriting of reality and European and American history and how you can't watch movies anymore because you keep getting yanked out of it.
So we'll talk to Ant about that and we'll wrap up the show.
But yeah, let's start with talking about guns with John Lott.
She wants to play with the Turk.
There was a shooting yesterday.
A shooting at the NSA.
Someone was trying to get in at Fort Meade and they got out of control and got shot.
The NSA would like you to know that it's totally irrelevant and it's not important.
Very bizarre, very disturbing.
But obviously we are focused on the dead in Parkland, Florida.
17 dead, 15 injured as of right now.
Everyone has to inject their politics in it.
The right uses it to discuss gun-free zones.
The left talks about how we need more gun control.
I like to give it some time to simmer, to figure out what's going on.
I also like to examine motive first.
And I always say, what was his first name?
Was it Muhammad?
Now, in this case, it was, what was it, Oscar de la Jesus de la Cruz or something?
Hispanic.
That means the story's not going to go too far.
He was pictured in a MAGA hat, but we've also seen him in communist t-shirts.
So it doesn't fit either side's narrative very well.
But we're right on this show.
We're both correct and right-wing, so we'll be focusing on the truth, which is this is yet another example of a gun-free zone getting shot up.
But before we get into that, I just wanted to have sort of a moment of clarity here.
I just made a chart in Photoshop of the deadliest mass shootings in the past, what, well, going back to 1984.
So the worst shootings, worst 14 shootings.
And I put a crescent and a star, meaning a Muslim motive, on three of them.
The rest have no motives.
Dylan Roof, you could say, was right-wing, racist, white supremacist terrorism.
That was nine.
It did not make it on the chart.
But every single one of these, Las Vegas, we have no idea.
And by the way, that is bizarre that we have no idea what the impetus for Las Vegas was.
Virginia Tech, crazy Korean.
Newtown, horrific, but clearly not political.
Sutherland Springs, Texas, that was the church that got shut up that no one seems to remember.
That was 26 people in a church of all races, and there's no motive there.
Killeen, Texas was that restaurant Lubby's.
San Yesidro, San Ysidro in California, that was the McDonald's shooting.
Of course, Parkland yesterday.
San Bernardino was Muslim.
Edmond, Oklahoma, there, that was a going postal thing.
Fort Hood was the guy.
They call it workplace violence, but that was Muslim.
Columbine, just insane.
Binghamton was this crazy Vietnamese guy who said people made fun of his accent.
And then Aurora, Colorado, of course, at the bottom, was the Batman shooter.
So crazy, crazy, crazy, except for three, and those were Islam.
Motive isn't something that you need to focus on in these.
And getting an AR-15, well, that's an interesting question.
Should we ban AR-15?
Should we have more background checks?
Once again, we turn to John Lott, the resident expert on this subject, on, as the post said, how many times, what can we do to prevent these shootings?
And by the way, this will give you fodder for your college class and your bar arguments when they say, can't we just ban these assault weapons?
Why are crazy people who haven't passed a background check able to use an automatic weapon on innocent children?
It's not that simple.
Let's ask John.
Mr. Lott, are you there, sir?
I am.
Good to talk to you again.
Well, it's kind of sad because we speak to you after every mass shooting, so I have this Pavlovian response of grief and sadness every time I see you.
All right.
Well, hopefully we can muddle through.
I mean, it's, I have to tell you, I just find this whole thing so frustrating.
I don't know if people, you can appreciate it, but it's, you know, I've been saying similar stuff for since 1998 now about these gun-free zones.
And I listened to politicians yesterday get on the TV And they start talking about background checks on private transfers.
They talk about terror watch lists.
They talk about assault weapons bans.
And I'm thinking to myself: do these guys care whether these things work or not?
Do they care?
It's like we got to do something.
Well, let's do something.
I want to do something.
I want to get rid of these gun-free zones that we have, that we keep on seeing these attacks occurring in.
But you take something like these background checks on private transfers.
First of all, it looks like yet again, it's completely irrelevant.
There's not one mass public shooting in this century where if this law had been in effect, it would have made any difference in terms of whether these things occur.
We have Senator Nelson from Florida getting on and talking about the terror watch list and making it look like Republicans like terrorists to have guns.
I mean, first of all, it's irrelevant to what just happened.
And secondly, he completely mischaracterizes what the whole debate was at the time.
The whole debate was whether or not the government would have to go before a judge in order to justify banning somebody from having a gun.
The Democrats just wanted some unnamed bureaucrat to be able to unilaterally make a decision on that.
And the Republicans said, well, fine, the bureaucrat can make the decision, but a judge has to at least look at it and give it at least the low standard of evidence associated with probable cause.
You know, it didn't even have to have preponderance of the evidence, which is like 51% sure, or beyond a reasonable doubt, which is like 95% sure.
They just said, you know, if you're like 20% sure or 25% sure, that would be enough to ban somebody from owning a gun.
But going before a judge at all was too much for Democrats.
Or you have things like the assault weapons ban.
You know, we've tried this.
We've been through this.
We have states that have done this.
There's even studies that Democrats have paid for haven't shown that this has mattered.
But let's go do it again.
So, and then the one thing here is you look at all the mass public shootings in Florida, whether it be the Orlando nightclub shooting or the business shooting in Orlando last year or the Ohial restaurant one or the Fort Lauderdale airport.
All of these, including the one yesterday, were in these gun-free zones that were there.
People think we just ban guns from an area to make it safe.
Well, guess what?
The killers like to go to places where their victims aren't able to go and defend themselves.
I mean, I wrote a book.
I have a whole chapter with quotes from these killers where they left diaries or other types of statements about why they chose the targets that they did.
And time after time, they mention that they want to go to a place where victims can't defend themselves because they'll make it easier for them to kill lots of people before somebody shows up with a gun in order to stop them.
I mean, I don't know how much more explicit these guys can be.
And you look at these mass public shootings.
Over 98% of the mass public shootings that we've had since 1950 have occurred in places where general civilians are banned from having guns.
So these guys may be crazy in some sense, but they're not stupid.
They want to kill as many people as possible.
And they know if they go to a place where people can't defend themselves, they can kill more people.
So I'm just frustrated because it's like, you know, I listened to the commentaries on even Fox last night.
And people were saying, well, you know, bad things will happen if people have guns and they're in this situation and cause more chaos and harm.
Well, people can go to our website at crime research.org.
I have literally dozens of cases in just recent years where what would have been a mass public shooting was stopped by people with permanent concealed handguns.
There was a case just very recently in Florida at an automobile repair shop, which was crowded with people, which was stopped by two permit holders, where the police said that many would have died if it wasn't for those individuals.
But I can give you, I can go on for hours about the cases that we've collected there.
They don't get national news attention.
You know, one can only imagine if the people hadn't been there to stop it, what type of national news attention or worldwide attention they would get.
But, you know, they still happen.
And yet in not one of those cases can these things about what might possibly go wrong actually occur.
You know, in so much of this gun control debate, it's kind of like the gun control advocates say, well, this might go wrong or this might go wrong.
Well, we don't need to guess in a lot of these cases.
We can go and look to see whether or not those things might happen or not.
So what's the scenario we're talking about?
Are we talking about teachers all strapped across the country?
Or are we talking about security guards at the front with their, we have to get armed security in every high school in America?
No.
Look, personally, I would let staff and teachers carry concealed so nobody would know that they have it.
This notion, and I disagree strongly with the NRA on this, this notion about having an armed police officer or someone like that in each school, I don't think makes much sense.
You have an armed person in uniform, that's an incredibly difficult job.
Having somebody like that, it's like somebody with a neon sign that says, shoot me first.
You know, you want to have someone who the attacker doesn't know, whose job isn't obviously security.
We train these teachers.
Every teacher has a mandatory training class with firearms, and then they get their weapon, and they have to have it.
Every teacher in the entire country has a concealed carry?
No, you don't need everyone.
You probably don't need more than a couple at a school, or maybe a few.
It doesn't have to be teachers.
It could be staff, could be secretary, could be who knows?
And they would volunteer that.
Yeah, they can volunteer to do It.
You have a number of states right now that allow that.
And none of those places have had any of these attacks.
And so, you know, I understand this notion: if we just ban guns from an area, it's going to make it safer.
The problem is the opposite happens.
It makes these places attractive targets for these killers.
You know, Rod Noble was, he served as Secretary General, the head of Interpol, which is kind of Europe's version of the FBI, for 15 years.
He recently retired.
And when he took over that job, he was a strong gun control advocate.
By the time he got done, he thought that gun control was actually dangerous.
He said, look, there's two ways you can try to make a place safe.
You can either really make it a gun-free zone, or you can let the possible victims defend themselves, because you just can't simply have police or law enforcement every place.
And what he learned over time is that for these soft targets, whether it be a mall or a movie theater or a restaurant, that it's simply impossible to really make these places gun-free zones.
You have these attackers plan these attacks for a year or two years in advance.
You know, there's no way you're going to be able to stop some place where civilians can enter in and out all the time.
Even with a metal detector, you just shoot the guy at the metal detector.
That's right.
There's so many ways in there.
And if they're serious, they'll find a way, no matter what you try to do, with those types of soft targets.
And the other thing is, there's so many soft targets.
You know, it's not like there's only one restaurant or one movie theater or one school that you can go after that's there.
And they'll plan that.
They'll look at the different options.
I mean, whether, and we see this with our killers here, whether it's the Aurora Batman movie theater shooter.
You know, he obviously went to a number of movie theaters beforehand.
He had notes on different movie theaters.
His original attack was going to be at the Denver International Airport until he discovered the amount of armed security that they had there.
So, you know, you see these guys, you know, with a Charleston church shooter, the Charleston church wasn't his first target.
He had gone and investigated several different options before he decided to choose that.
These guys, six months of planning for these types of things is a short period of time for these guys.
Wow, I did not know that.
Okay, last question.
What is an AR-15?
an AR-15 is a gun that looks like a military weapon but on the inside it's the same as any semi-automatic hunting rifle.
If they want to...
There's three different types of guns.
You have manually loaded guns, where after you fire the bullet, you have to physically yourself put another bullet in the chamber.
Like a shotgun?
Yeah, a shotgun would be one example, right, where you pump it to do that.
And then you have semi-automatics, which the gun, one shot reloads itself, one shot reloads itself.
And then you have automatic, fully automatic or machine guns, which as long as the trigger is depressed, bullets will come out.
And those are very hard to get.
Those are very hard to get.
They're very expensive.
They're hard to get.
You don't see any murders committed with machine guns in the United States that are registered.
And so, you know, if they want to go and argue we should ban all semi-automatic guns, let's talk about it.
At least that would make some logical sense.
I'm not saying it'd be a good suggestion.
But, you know, this notion of banning some guns based on how they look on the outside just is stupid.
Yeah.
And we tried it.
Yeah, I know.
We tried it.
We tried it for 10 years, and they had magazine size limits, too.
And different states have had this.
We've had lots of academic studies on this type of stuff.
We've had, you know, the Clinton administration paid for studies to be done, and nothing they paid for showed that their law that they love so much made any difference.
You know, when the assault weapons ban sunset in 2004, you can go back through Senator Feinstein, Senator Schumer, gun control groups were all predicting the end of the world, that murder rates were going to soar afterwards.
Well, guess what?
Murder rates fell afterwards.
Robbery rates fell afterwards.
You know, I don't want to get too much in the weeds, but it's just very frustrating that these guys keep latching on to things.
I just wish once in a while some of these reporters would say, well, okay, so you want to background check in all private transfers, and you're bringing it up because of this mass public shooting.
Can you point to me, let's say, mass public shootings in the last decade that would have been stopped if this law had been in effect?
Right, right.
Well, I think the moral of the story is more guns, less crime.
Right.
Sorry, I'm really getting frustrated.
I don't know if my emotions show on this.
I mean, these are horrible tragedies.
I just don't understand.
You know, I just don't understand what goes through these guys' minds.
It's sincerity.
It's like when you talk about immigration and you ask them how many illegal immigrants are there, and they have no clue, and you realize you don't really care about this because you've never looked it up.
Yeah.
Look, I have to tell you, I go nuts listening to the TV.
It's only so many hours I can take.
I'm listening to these experts going talk about, well, we've had 18 school shootings this year.
These numbers are just completely bogus stuff.
I tell you, so like to get to the 18, they include, well, first of all, it's K-through college, and they're including even gunshots that aren't even on the school campus grounds.
They're including suicide.
So you have things like a police officer accidentally fired his gun.
Nobody was hit.
Well, okay, we want to count a police officer's gun accidentally going off as a school shooting.
There's a 31-year-old ex-military person who at night pulls into the parking lot of a school out of school hours and commits suicide in his car.
Is that want to count that as a school shooting?
Is that what people imagine when they're thinking about a school shooting?
A police officer accidentally firing his gun or this other?
If you look at cases where a gun was fired on school property and somebody was hit with the bullet, okay, you're talking about four cases.
You know, in what period of time?
Since the beginning of the year over this 18 that they're talking about.
Four cases.
You know, it's just false data rife with virtue signaling and hidden agendas here.
And it's fun to talk to you as a data expert because we realize how far we've strayed from the basic facts.
Yeah, well, it's just people, they, you know, people throw out these numbers and others use them.
And it's like nobody even bothers to go and fact check this stuff.
You have 60 minutes this last weekend.
It was an amazingly biased show.
I don't know if I've ever seen anything so biased.
You know, they don't even have anybody on kind of the side pro-self-defense side that knows anything about the numbers that they're talking to.
They have the other side just throwing out these claims all the time.
I guess CBS 60 Minutes can't afford a fact check.
John, we're out of time, but this has been...
It's just, I'm really frustrated.
No, it's all incredibly valuable information.
We really appreciate it.
Let's check in with you again soon.
All right.
Well, thanks very much.
People can find more at our website at crime research.org.
Crimeresearch.org.
All right.
We'll check it out.
Thanks, buddy.
Cheers.
Tell me what I don't like money.
Tell me what I don't like.
Anthony, are you there?
Hi, Gavin McInnes.
How are you?
I'm great.
I'm great.
Beautiful home.
I've got you at home for a change.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's my home.
Very Italian.
You guys are into ornate stuff.
You like rolling stuff?
It's the law.
An Italian inspector comes by every so often to make sure we have the sufficient amount of columns and rolls and every chair has to go like that.
Yes, squirrely things.
I've got some good news and some bad news.
I recently came across a group of Nazi skinhead terrorists that were going to take down the American government.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, but luckily a supermodel showed up and started doing those roundhouse kicks.
And I just sort of stood back and went, what the f ⁇ ?
And she killed all the white Nazis.
Was that girl?
Did she have a short pixie-cut blonde hair and just amazing with a gun?
Yes, she had high-heeled shoes on.
I was watching the movie American Assassin, and he has his go-to woman in the Middle East.
It's like these movies are now paid by European companies who just take tax dollars.
So they have to go to Turkey or Paris or something, right?
So he ends up in Istanbul, whatever the f ⁇ .
And check out, this is Shiva Nagar.
I'm CIA.
Don't fucking lie to me.
Can you see that?
Yeah.
She's like a 10.
Get the f*** away from me!
Oh!
Look at that.
She's got him in a headlock.
That's enough.
Then he drowns her.
If Shiva Nagar has you in a headlock, just go, hey, get off of me.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Hey, hey, beautiful.
Get that hand off.
Yeah, look at her.
She ruins every goddamn movie.
Every movie now.
It's the whole thing.
I call them John Chick or Joan Wick.
You know, it's just these women that look amazing, but they're supernatural.
I mean, obviously, women wouldn't need any help against people like Harvey Weinstein or any of these rapists in Hollywood if they actually could, right, do these things in headlocks.
Imagine Harvey Weinstein, hey, hey, help me up.
It doesn't happen.
Check out this chick.
This is her.
Before she did American Assassin, she did a burlesque movie.
And you're watching.
You're going, yeah, that's you in your element.
Gorgeous babe.
Play it.
I'll show you some.
She's like, do you have any footages?
Any pictures?
Any shots?
She's so hot, she's a freak.
I'll let you know.
The costumes are so sexy.
I'll have to have some talks.
I'd love to see you.
She's going to beat you up.
It's just a movie.
A movie that follows.
If she punched you in the face as hard as she could, you go, what is the matter with you?
What's going on?
Yeah.
Hey, hey, why'd you do that?
And she has the most delicate features, a half-power punch that jaw is shattering.
Well, also in that movie, so that movie is actually pretty good outside of the affirmative action.
But it's about a guy, terrorists kill his fiancé, so he becomes like the Punisher, and he learns martial arts and Arabic and studies the Quran so he can join ISIS to kill the bin Laden guy.
And he makes it.
He ends up with Bin Laden.
They kill him and all this stuff.
Anyway, the top of the CIA recruiters is some black chick who's also hot, by the way.
Can you show her, Dave?
What'd she think?
Yeah, look at her.
You're going to jump from cell to cell taking out terrorists.
For starters, yeah.
Our people here like now, I saw her.
She's in a fight scene too, by the way.
And you know, The guy who recruits the Secret Service Green Beret Ninja Assassins is fat and bald.
He's got like a weird mole here.
Of course.
First of all, in any fight, if you just pulled the weave off her head, she would be so distracted that you could probably get in five more punches.
Half the time you watch these movies, you go, why are you working in intelligence?
You could be a waitress.
You make 700 bucks a night in tips like that.
And it pulls.
Let's go ahead.
Who's like recruiting them?
That point where right at the beginning of their career, a recruiter has to come over and be like, hey, you know, you work in law enforcement of some capacity or you're in intelligence and in college, and that's where they get them from.
Why would you walk up to this insanely beautiful woman who wouldn't ever be in that situation in the first place?
Ever.
Like, yeah, I didn't know they were recruiting from the Fashion Institute here in Manhattan.
Yeah, and by the way, those guys who do that, assuming such a thing exists, they're in their late 50s.
This woman looks like she's 30.
Wow, you really rocketed out of police academy right into the CIA to the top last.
Boom.
I've looked at what you've done here, and I'd really like you to come on board with the company and get away from me, you dirty old man.
That's what would happen.
She wouldn't even accept this conversation.
Yeah, well, actually, Trump did that with Amarosa, right?
He said, hey, incompetent black woman, can you come to the White House and be two doors down from me?
How'd that work out?
Great.
It went great.
At least she can keep her mouth shut after she gets fired and not appear on Celebrity Big Brother to sh on pence.
She's just ratting everybody out on Celebrity Big Brother.
What a c ⁇ .
Check out, okay, this is Jason Bourne.
So Jason Bourne, the CIA killed his father for digging too deep.
And they go, we need a hacker who's a genius on computers and also, obviously, a ninja who can fight to get Jason Bourne back in the CIA.
And look at the hacker ninja we're supposed to choose.
What is she, an 11?
I don't understand how they try to think we're going to be able to suspend this belief for that.
I could abide the fact that Jason Bourne is shoving an aerosol can in a microwave and runs out and it blows up and kills the guys.
I could actually kind of go with that.
But the fact that this woman would have to flee a safe house on a moment's notice, yet could do her hair and makeup perfectly before that is, I can't buy it.
Well, you're watching her and you're like, why are you a hacker for the CIA?
You should be in movies.
You could be in like the new Jason Bourne or something.
You're gorgeous.
We have a weird paradox going on.
Yeah.
I should be watching you in a movie theater right now as you eat popcorn in a movie theater.
Yeah.
There's something different going on here, too.
There's obviously the silly supermodel thing, but there's also this affirmative action.
And it ends up where you go, wait a minute, Hamilton, you had to make everyone black.
Wakanza, you had to invent a fake city that where colonists weren't allowed to get to.
Or that NASA movie where they take a bunch of number crunchers and they say, actually, those women are what got you to the moon.
And you go, no.
Like, weren't they just checking for essentially typos in the math, those women in that NASA movie?
Yeah, yeah.
The whole thing was get as many people as you can to run these numbers and compare them and make sure they all come out the same.
So, yeah, it could have been really anybody, and it was.
It was anybody and everybody that they got to do that.
You almost said something when you said it could have been, and then you stopped yourself, which I appreciate.
Thank you very much for that.
But have you seen that movie, by the way?
Hidden Figures?
Yes.
Yes, I did.
Did you see the scene where she's just walking by, like having a cigarette, and they can't figure out why these panels keep coming off?
And she goes, maybe you should make more aerodynamic panels, and they wouldn't fall off so much.
And they go, what the?
That's brilliant.
Aren't you just a number cruncher?
Thanks.
And yeah, and that obviously didn't happen.
There were a lot of things that didn't happen that were in that movie to make people feel good.
That's what it is now.
Movies are put out to just make people feel good about themselves.
Entertainment, or especially in a movie like that where you're trying to portray it as some type of documentary, it's all crap now.
It's all just that's secondary to will people feel good about themselves?
Well, they have an aversion to reality.
They're realityist.
And the irony is they end up making things worse.
It's just like communism.
When you try to make everyone equal and everything good, you end up hurting the people you purport to help.
And my gay, retarded producer here, Dave Cast, he was forced because he's a cuck to go see Hello Dolly with his fiancé.
And he told me that amidst the aristocrats, right, this is late 1800s.
Slavery was just abolished.
They have tons of blacks.
So you have these black aristocrats right after slaves.
Blacks are still considered human garbage.
And they're dancing around.
And you feel like going, hey, aristocrat, why don't you do something for your fellow blacks, you asshol?
Help out.
Help out, you dick.
You're dancing around with a handkerchief with all these white people?
All right, so this is leaking into drunk history.
Have you watched drunk history?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Very entertaining.
Great, great show, but he's getting affirmative action-y now.
Oh, is he?
I noticed the blacks, when he does black people, they don't get as wasted.
Really?
Yeah, I don't know why that is.
But when that show started out, they'd be going, and then the guy went with the jello putter pops.
And now you're watching Questlove going, you've had like one brandy, dude.
Chill out.
Yeah, you're not really drunk.
But do you remember Disco Demolition?
Oh, yeah, that was what's his name?
Who did that?
That DJ, I forget his name.
Steve Dahl.
He was like your forebear, right?
Oh, yeah.
This guy was the pioneer.
You're a Steve Dahl wannabe, really.
Yeah.
You wish.
There he is.
So, Steve Dahl.
And so they did a drunk history of it.
It was really good.
It was really accurate.
In fact, the field looked exactly the same.
The colors looked the same as the old footage.
But I'm watching the end, and Bob Odenkirk has a good point.
He goes, it didn't end disco.
It was just like a giant tweet that said, a lot of us think disco sucks.
Can you show that clip, David?
You got that ready?
This event was like one massive tweet sent out by a generation of kids.
And they pressed a button and said, we don't like disco that much.
Okay, stop.
Okay?
Yeah, a lot of young black girls with giant afros hated disco and were at disco demolition.
Yeah, yeah.
I would guess no.
No.
Well, there was, I wasn't there, but there was, there's definitely, I would assume, a racial undertone with this, we hate disco, we like rock.
Yeah, that's what it was.
I would assume the crowd there were 99.9% angry young white guys that were just ready to drink and tear up a field.
I combed through the footage.
It's all over YouTube.
I did not see one non-white person rioting.
Yeah, we're exposed to this fake diversity where it couldn't have existed and never existed.
But even when they portray historical events now, you have to throw all that in.
I guess Google, you know how Google puts their little front page up and every day it's a little theme thing, an animated little theme under the word Google.
When SpaceX launched that latest rocket where they put the Tesla in space, they did another one and they showed like jumping happy little characters in a control room, a space control room.
And it was, you know, you could tell it was a little black animation and a white and an Asian and stuff.
And then you look at the actual celebration from the control room, it couldn't be a bunch of whiter dudes and a couple of chicks and a couple of Asian guys, but the bulk of it were just white dudes.
And there's this forced thing that we're supposed to, regardless of what the fact is, and regardless as to why the fact of the matter is, but it is the fact of the matter.
They have to portray it as we see these fake commercials and movies and everything else.
And movies are fine.
You want to feel good and put a movie.
I could at least watch and go, well, that's crap.
It's all fake.
But when you portray it like it's a historical event, you're trying to rewrite history and make it inaccurate and that it was diverse or something.
And that's the stuff that really just gets me.
Like, oh, it's so obviously pandering.
Yeah.
And the BBC is doing that with all these black knights and stuff.
And you end up unlearning the truth.
Oh, there was tons of black knights.
Or with your NASA example, you go, oh, well, we don't have to worry about diversity in NASA.
I saw a bunch of jumping characters.
It's already replete with Asian boys and black women, and everything's fine over there.
It's great.
Or these video games where they take out all the swastikas.
Now you don't think that swastikas were a big part of World War II.
They won't show these Confederate wars heroes in these video games.
So now you don't know about the Civil War.
Yeah, yeah.
I play a game called Battlefield One.
It's a wonderful game about World War I. And I don't get to pick my character every time.
So each time I play, it's a different character.
I can't tell you how many times I have to fight World War I as a black woman.
It makes no sense.
Soon we're going to have some thing about the civil rights movement.
They'll have a bunch of black people going, we don't want these Negroes coming to our schools.
It's never reverse.
I saw The Roots.
You know that website, The Root?
They uncovered Tetan Hufinisfratiti or whatever King Tut's wife was, and she looks pale because they were basically white Arabs.
And they go, you're whitewashing history.
No, you blackwash history.
And now science and DNA are renormalizing history.
And that's called whitewashing to you.
Right, right.
The latest is a beautiful black woman portraying Joan of Arc.
That's the latest thing they're going to be doing.
And I saw that, and I'm like, and then the hypocrisy, the double standard, the anger from black people when you show Nefertiti there as a pale woman, it just gets wild.
I go, how could you get angry when Hamilton is a black dude on Broadway and Joan of Arc is a black chick?
I don't understand.
I assume everyone will be cool with Pat and Oswald playing MLK.
Is that going to be fine?
I cannot wait for that to come out.
I want the little Pat Noswald.
Matted down here, his little thin Sean King mustache that he's got.
Oh, my God.
James L. Ray shooting high for the first three shots because Pat is such a tiny little patent.
Yeah, in the Patton version, he lives.
He lives.
Yes.
He looks over his head and goes, what's that?
And someone scoots him back into the room.
Okay, last example.
So Drunk History, they did a thing on McCready versus Edwin Forrest, and they made it all about the rich people like the British guy, McCready, and the locals liked Edwin Forrest.
And that wasn't really the story.
The story was Bill the Butcher and the nativists, the Bowery boys, they hated immigrants.
And that was the Irish, But even the rich English.
They didn't want other cultures in.
They wanted an American doing Shakespeare.
He totally glosses over that and just makes it about the rich and the poor.
No, it was about immigration.
And then in the audience, do you have the audience here?
Here are the Bowery boys.
Look at that.
That woman, that black woman, is with the Bowery boys.
No.
No.
Press play, Dave.
Let's watch it for a sec.
Their fans over to the other shows to kind of mess with them a little bit.
some of our Creedy fans start hissing at everyone for us.
Shhhhh Shhhhh But it's obviously, it didn't happen that way.
It's not an accurate.
But the Bowery boys, they were racist, basically.
Like when New Yorkers were getting constricted to fight the Civil War, they were hanging blacks in the streets of New York.
And that's a bad thing.
Don't get me wrong.
So you are hiding that by putting that black woman with the Bowery boys and making it all just like Hello Dolly.
You go, black lady, what are you doing hanging out with lynchers?
It's a disservice to try to pander so much.
Because, yeah, like you said, you would then assume, well, I guess everybody got along.
What happened?
Everyone got along back then.
Why can't we get along now?
Yeah, how did the black women that were in the Bowery boys feel about these lynchings?
Did they allow them to happen?
The black people have a lot of blood on their hands all of a sudden.
The Churchill movie that's out now has a great example.
They had to get one black dude in.
I think it's a mission now.
They're like, what do we do?
This is a movie about 1940 England.
Pretty much devoid of black people unless they were.
There was a black guy.
He was at the circus and it was called Come See a Black Guy.
Yeah.
It was five bucks.
Churchill goes into the underground and he gets on a train and there's one black dude there.
Yes.
And he apparently is so smart that he finishes one of Churchill's quotes.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some type of thing.
And Churchill gets through half of it, and the black guy's sitting there, and he eloquently finishes the quote, and Churchill's like, oh, and it just is so, it took me out of it.
It's a ham-handed attempt to say, hey, black people, we'll put you in the movie, even though 1940 England about the war, it's devoid of black people.
Devoid.
Look, there's two things going on here.
One, incredibly hot chicks can beat me up and are ninjas.
That's bullsh ⁇ .
Two, black people built this country.
They were the founding fathers, and they were an integral part of European and American history, which is sort of true, but not the way you're showing it, unfortunately.
And to just lie to these people, to make them feel good, seems like the bigotry of low expectations.
It's pandering.
Yes, it's pandering.
It's bigotry.
It's a disservice to the people that were alive and either suffering back then or making accomplishments.
But it's so inaccurate that you don't know which is which and you're not getting a real sense of what the history of certain people were.
You're just getting yanked out of the movie constantly.
Well, I just keep telling people, my wife can't watch movies with me anymore.
I can only go up to like Taken.
Taken, the bad guys were Armenians.
They had rich Arabs.
They had rich white guys in there too.
So that was okay.
But it was all about how evil these Armenian immigrants are.
Great.
Right.
I can handle it.
Everything after Taken is so fake, as Nick DiPaulo said, I can't sit around here and watch Angelina Jolie kick the living shit out of 10 green berets.
It's ridiculous.
It really is.
All right, Anne.
Well, thanks for coming on.
Yeah, always a pleasure.
Let's keep enjoying movies pre-1990.
Yeah, whenever I'm sitting around, my girl is constantly has to watch while I'm going, oh, really?
Really?
I'm so looking forward to this Bruce Willis death wish, but if there is a hot black chick by his side kicking the shit out of people, I'm going to lose it.
I can't imagine there won't be, which is upsetting.
Yeah, well, if there isn't, that'll be a whole backyard.
Okay, one more thing.
Sorry, I just remembered something important.
Hunchback of Notre Dame.
They're doing a musical at a high school in Ottawa, New York, and they cast a white woman to play Esmeralda.
Now, I went and looked it up.
Esmeralda was half gypsy, half French.
Aka Kennedy from Fox Business.
what are all these black women screaming about?
They get to do it to our history, but we do it to theirs, and they have a heart attack.
And it's not even theirs.
She's supposed to be a gypsy, yeah.
I don't know.
What are you going to do?
Again.
What are you going to do?
Again, there's a black Hamilton and a black Joan of Arc.
If we're keeping score.
Yes.
Well, we are keeping score, and we're losing until Patton gets that role.
Right, until Patton gets him LK.
All right, man.
Thanks for coming on.
Thank you, Gavin.
Anytime.
Talk to you again soon.
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