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Jan. 22, 2018 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes

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	That is the anthem of the proud boys.
	Song from the musical Aladdin called Proud of Your Boy that inspired our movement.
	That all comes from when I went to my kids' piano recital and there was a little boy there who hadn't learned an instrument.
	He'd only just learned that song while everyone else was playing guitar and drums and stuff.
	And I was so mortified because that song is an annoying song, clearly written by a homosexual.
	And it's all about how, I know I may have let you down, mom, I'm not perfect, but I'm me, me, me.
	I'm going to be better.
	I'm going to make you proud.
	And it's just this sort of self-congratulatory writing you hear in musicals.
	And I was cringing watching this boy do that song and thinking there's no way his dad is here.
	Because if his dad was, he certainly would not be proud of his boy.
	Cadow!
	The economy is still booming.
	Stocks hit another record on heels of tax bill.
	But what is the left focused on?
	They think he had sex with a porn star shortly after his marriage.
	And more specifically, she didn't enjoy it.
	She thought it was mediocre.
	So assuming they did have sex, it was probably in a broom closet somewhere.
	And she thought it was, quote unquote, the averagest sex I've ever had.
	Breaking news.
	Trump allegedly had an affair and wasn't good in bed.
	Meanwhile, this is happening.
	Do you know how much I care about how his sex was with a mistress many, many years ago?
	Approximately zero, much less than the Dow.
	Actually, I care about as much about his sex life as I do.
	It's about the same as the debt.
	So what is it, negative $13 trillion?
	That's what percentage I care about his sex life.
	You know, just as we were listening to that song, I saw on my phone that he's now banning people from Haiti and other shithole countries, including Belize and Samoa.
	That's pretty harsh.
	He's clearly no longer caring about optics.
	But I want to dive right into the show because I want to talk about kids.
	I committed when we started this show that I was going to talk about, you know, families and kids a lot and defend children, be a spokesman for children's rights.
	And I think the biggest pariahs out there, no, sorry, the biggest predators out there when it comes to children are the left.
	Their communist oppression is hurting kids.
	So I want to talk about the war on kids and the way the far left is using kids as just not just virtue signals, but weapons.
	And my brother's going to come on and talk about some new eating techniques.
	I've got Jack Carr, the guy who wrote this book.
	It's like a Punisher type book about being a Navy SEAL.
	And I'm also going to talk to you about my, I've been replacing Artie Lang this week over at the Anthony Cumius show, Compound Media down the street.
	And then, of course, we will end it all by looking at this incredibly fat woman and laughing at her.
	So I've been filling in for the comedian Artie Lang on Compound Media's Artie and Anthony Show.
	Artie is addicted to both cocaine and heroin, that he snorts regularly, and that gives him a profusive, is that the word?
	Nosebleeds.
	He's always got, you know, little kids always have snot here.
	He always has blood.
	It's a very sensitive membrane up here.
	And the amount of garbage they put in drugs today, it's like putting it on your eyeball.
	I mean, you're eventually going to eat away at the tissue.
	So I don't even know if he has a septum.
	And it was making his nose inflate to WC Fields levels.
	So they said, why don't you take some time off?
	We'll get Gavin in.
	He's hilarious and gorgeous.
	And then when you get better, you'll come back.
	Not a big deal.
	It happens to the best of us.
	So I've been filling in all week.
	And on Monday, Artie appeared magically out of the blue.
	He was wearing, as you can see, the kind of gloves you wear when you're handling photographs.
	You know what I mean?
	Like you buy them in a pack of 50.
	Now, his contention is it's because of his diabetes, his cracked fingers.
	I don't see how that could give you any moisture, those cotton gloves.
	Surely that usurps the moisture from your hands.
	He also had a cigarette in his hand that wasn't lit, that eventually broke.
	And his head had been shaved just at the top.
	He proceeded to tell us the bizarre stories after sort of stumbling in, bizarre stories of being beaten by prison guards and dragged by the hair, whipped in the back with an iron bar.
	Now, I love Artie to death.
	Don't get me wrong, and I'm not trying to take his job.
	I have a great job.
	But I can't help, just as a totally disinterested robot, just looking at the facts, I can't help but think, that can't be true.
	If a prison guard beat a celebrity with a lead pipe, first of all, he knows it's going to be in international news and he's going to lose his pensions.
	Secondly, it's going to be international news and he's going to lose his pension.
	Anyway, see if you can parse some sanity from this bizarre appearance.
	So he puts me in gen pop, like general population.
	Yeah.
	And I'm a big star.
	I'm not allowed to do that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They usually keep celebrities and pedophiles.
	Well, right.
	I would have said I f ⁇ ed the kid.
	Get me out of here.
	I would have f ⁇ ed the kid in front of him.
	I would have f ⁇ ed the kid celebrity.
	I would have dug up Corey Heyman to get out of this jail.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because it was really like not.
	I mean, LA County was really clean compared to this.
	They got those old silver toilets.
	And, you know, you got a shit, you know, squatting.
	I can't do that.
	I was in my 20s.
	I could do at the Time.
	What a.
	I've never heard of a celebrity having to go into gen pop.
	And that's a story right there, isn't it?
	But so a kid named Crucifix, he's a rapper.
	He's going to sell Jay-Z a trying to sell Jay-Z a beat.
	I don't know what that means, but he's never the rapper and him are friends.
	But the prison guards drag him by his hair.
	Now, this man weighs whatever, 300 pounds.
	If you were to drag him by his hair, wouldn't his hair come out?
	I'm totally confused by this story.
	It might just be a comedian making up a fun story, but I was talking to a cop about it after the show who was there, and he said, yeah, tell you what it looks like to me.
	It looks like, and I hate to look like a little snitchy rat crapping on Artie, who's my friend, but I'm here to entertain you.
	And this is a theory a cop had about what's really going on here, because something doesn't add up.
	And he said, no, what happened was he was probably going through withdrawals.
	He scratches his back.
	He scratches his head to the point where he's scarring his head.
	So they shave his head.
	And then the marks on his back were from that.
	And then he probably scratched so much he scratched his nails right off.
	Because I've seen it all the time.
	These people going through withdrawals, I think all the toxins are coming out of your skin.
	Plus, with heroin, your body's constantly giving you feel-good dopamine.
	And then when you quit, I've heard your whole body feels like third-degree burns.
	So you just want to scratch your skin off.
	It's apparently some of the worst withdrawals you can ever endure.
	I hear it's actually people can die from it.
	Horrible, horrible drug heroin.
	I've lost 12 pals, which is why I care about this.
	To me, he was acting like he was on methadone and Coke.
	That's just my two cents.
	I love Artie.
	It was weird seeing him come by the show.
	I know he's going to be back on that show.
	And he's a brilliant man, really funny guy.
	He's just had some tough times.
	And I'm also a little worried because he has the exact same genetic makeup as my children, 25% American Indian.
	So I worry that it's a genetic addiction thing.
	Or a predilection at least.
	So anyway, after that, we hang out.
	I was talking to Artie, and then we go downstairs, and the paparazzi are there.
	So they take some pictures.
	How you doing, Artie?
	I'm fine.
	What about the lead pipe?
	And so we let them take some pictures and then we start getting rough with them because we're tough guys.
	And Artie appreciates it.
	It already goes away.
	And we start sort of chesting the guys.
	And they keep saying, we are in public place, public place.
	And I go, yeah, I realize that.
	I used to do do's and don'ts for vice.
	I used to take pictures of people on the street.
	And if you're in a public place, there's a reasonable expectation of being photographed.
	Got it.
	But I'm not talking about the law.
	I'm talking about human decency at this point.
	You've had about 50 pictures, right?
	Time to move on.
	And then he goes, look, we take pictures.
	We are pressed.
	We are certified.
	And then I go, and this has sort of been my obsession these days.
	How'd you get here?
	Like, I'm an immigrant, and it was a real bitch to get to America.
	I had to basically pitch myself.
	Hey, I promise I'm bringing tons of jobs.
	I promise I'm not taking a job an American will have.
	I'm going to bring more jobs.
	I'm going to build this.
	I'm going to build that.
	I'm going to be an asset to your country.
	I'm not going to go on welfare.
	I'm not going to be a detriment.
	And I said an abbreviated version of this, and I said to him, what was your pitch?
	I'm going to go harass celebrities?
	Yeah, we need more of those.
	Come on in.
	How did you get this job?
	I traveled all over Europe as a young man.
	I had a European passport.
	I couldn't get a gig.
	I couldn't get any jobs.
	The only jobs you get when you travel are taking out the garbage or maybe teaching English in Asia or something.
	No one's going to let you become a paparazzi.
	How did you get this gig?
	And I've been saying this to people with accents all the time.
	How did that Uber guy, the Muslim who killed eight people, how did he get his job?
	Oh, it was a lottery.
	Okay, so are you guys Paps Lottery?
	And so he goes, you think I am immigrant?
	And I go, yeah.
	And he goes, how would you know?
	And I go, because I have earholes, dude.
	Your English sucks.
	And then he snaps and he goes, I won't say the actual swear word so Dave doesn't have to bleep it out, but he goes, like he goes purple and starts screaming.
	It was like right out of an anime thing with lightning shooting out of him and stuff.
	He just snapped.
	And I think it was like a National Geographic animal thing where we're supposed to just gallop into the woods like scared coyotes, but we could easily take them.
	So we start laughing and we go, whoa, who put a quarter on you?
	No, who put a quarter on you?
	And we're laughing and then walking closer to him.
	So then he realizes his stupid animal bluff didn't work.
	So he runs in the car and then we start taking pictures of them.
	So I open up the doors.
	He's like, close the door, close the door.
	And he goes, I impressed, I impressed.
	And then he shows me this picture.
	You see, if you have a laminated picture of yourself, you're magic and can go anywhere and do anything because it's certified.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, pal.
	This is not the 1800s.
	Having a stamp and a piece of paper no longer means anything.
	And also, you're harassing my friend.
	I don't care how certified you are outside of the cops.
	You're not harassing my friend anymore.
	I've had enough and I'm going to fight you.
	And then we start taking pictures of the little kid in the back.
	Both, by the way, immigrants, both really thick accents, both harassing Artie for what?
	I've talked to photographers.
	You know how much they get for these pictures?
	Like a buck fifty every time it runs.
	I know a guy who did, he got Kim Kardashian on the cover of Us Weekly.
	That got him $600.
	So these guys are harassing Artie for what?
	10 cents.
	Do you have the other picture, the other guy, Dave?
	The one in the back with the funny little hat on with the earmuffs.
	Yeah, there it is.
	And as I took this picture, are you ready for the greatest quote of all time?
	You know what he said to me?
	And this, I want to get it framed.
	I want to get this written in gold foil.
	He said, this is harassment.
	He said, this is harassment.
	A paparazzi immigrant who was antagonizing a man who just got out of rehab told me it was harassment to document his harassment.
	How did we get here?
	No, really, how did we get here?
	The left has a very strange relationship with children, does it not?
	If they're not justifying pedophilia or telling us not to have kids, they are putting children in bubbles and making them so safe that they're worse off and in more danger.
	That is the liberal ethos in a nutshell.
	It's the communist ethos, and that is we hereby commit to hurt the people we're purporting to help.
	And I was reading this article by a child psychologist named Barbara Greenberg called, Should Schools Ban Kids from Having Best Friends?
	Now, this has become a hot topic as of late because Prince William or Prince Harry or one of those funny-looking princes is sending his kids to a school that bans best friends.
	Let me just tell you, if my daughter's teachers are watching, if any teacher at any of my kids' schools tells them they can't have a best friend, I am going to go in there with so much fire and brimstone that flames are going to come out of my eyes.
	There is no way in Hades you are telling me my kids cannot have best friends.
	But it's such a ludicrous thing to suggest that I'm actually fascinated by it.
	And she says, but child after child comes into my therapy office distressed when their best friend has now given someone else this coveted title.
	Yeah, sorry.
	And she later says, I'm a huge fan of inclusion, the phrase best friend, blah, blah, but it leads to emotional distress and would be significantly less likely if our kids spoke of close or even good friends rather than best friends, if our kids spoke.
	So they're trying to monitor child speech.
	Their obsession with meddling goes beyond the taxpayer and you and I and into children's lives, controlling children's speech.
	I've always said on this show that there's two types of people in politics.
	People who want to be left alone and people who won't leave them the hell alone.
	That second part is really the problem with America.
	People who won't leave us alone now won't leave kids alone.
	That's not what this country is about.
	This country is about liberty and freedom and letting people be.
	Let kids have best friends.
	I'm sorry if that means a lonely kid has to sit alone at the picnic table, in the cafeteria, or in the schoolyard.
	Sorry, that's life.
	You can't change that.
	It's called the ups and downs of childhood.
	And by you getting involved and saying there's no best friends, you're making these children's lives worse.
	And it reminds me, by the way, of the way LGBT and the far left and the alt-left love using children as weapons.
	So this is, I believe, a very stoned gay man who believes he's a woman.
	I think he might have boobs.
	I don't know.
	And he's now a mommy of the youngest trans kid in the world, I believe.
	And that scene is heroic here.
	This person gets a platform and everyone is excited to hear them talk.
	And I just think, stop using your kids as part of your identity.
	Like the idea of me taking my youngest and saying, make America great again, I'll have Trump and putting that on my baby.
	First of all, I don't think my wife would ever let me.
	But it would never even occur to me.
	In fact, I do the opposite with my kids.
	I try to get them out of politics, out of my world, because I want them to enjoy their childhood.
	They're not an accoutrement for me to push my agenda.
	But listen to this lunatic talk about, I don't know what.
	This goes on forever, so we'll have to sample it.
	So I'm live.
	I can't hear.
	The first time ever on Instagram.
	First time Ocast.
	To be honest, I'm super nervous.
	I'm late because I've been having really bad stage fright.
	This is really different from reading to a classroom of kids.
	So I want to start off by introducing myself as I always do in my lives, but for everyone, this is the first time you'll be watching, because this is also getting posted on YouTube.
	Today is December 7th, 2017, and I am Enigma Midnight, also known as Lauren Desilvio.
	I am a proud member of the LGBTQ community.
	I am a binder pansexual, and I am also a proud trans parent.
	My 11-year-old daughter has been out for two years, a little bit over.
	Hold on.
	Her name is Phoenix.
	She is male-to-female transgender.
	Did you hear that?
	My daughter has been out, not as gay, which is already weird.
	Why is a nine-year-old sexual?
	Why is a nine-year-old saying they're gay?
	Just be a tomboy, okay?
	We know you're gay.
	If you're 10 years old and you sing show tunes all the time, that's a gay boy.
	If you're a 10-year-old girl and all you want to do is fix motorbikes, probably, not definitely, probably going to end up being a lesbian.
	But we don't need to meddle with that.
	We don't need hormone blockers, and we certainly don't want to introduce the word trans in there.
	In fact, my job with my kids is to keep sex away from them for as long as possible.
	I'm hoping I can make it to 17, 18, or something like that.
	I'm not going to go up to my nine-year-old and go, so where's your sexuality headed?
	What kind of sex are you going to be?
	So not only has she decided this kid is not heterosexual, but she's also gone in and switched her gender up as the youngest kid to ever go from 9 to 11.
	And she'd like the world to know this intimate fact about her child, his child, whatever the hell this person is.
	Keep going.
	Youngest children in Boston, Massachusetts to be diagnosed as transgender.
	Diagnosed.
	December 7th, though, is a significant day.
	What deals are you on?
	Three years ago.
	You see what I mean?
	Mental illness.
	City in Florida was a school system within had a transgender first grader in a classroom.
	First grader.
	And in order to help the children understand what transgender meant as well as the adults in the school, because not all the teachers and stuff know, especially down south, it's a little bit different down there from up north.
	Oh, God.
	All right, that's enough.
	Super nervous.
	God, you get the idea.
	I mean, I'm sorry.
	I want to apologize for implying this person was high on marijuana.
	I think that was unfair.
	I think I should have inferred Xanax, Obituates, maybe even Oxy, something slightly more serious, because Pot's kind of giggly, but you can still keep a train of thought.
	And she's not slurring, so that's not booze.
	That looks to me, and this is just a conjecture, like something worse.
	But the real crime here, it's not a crime to be wasted, but the real crime here is this using kids as a political weapon.
	And it's not just people who pretend they're trans or whatever, but you see this all over the left.
	I mean, look, on the right, you might see a kid at a parade with an American flag, but the left really gets into their minds.
	And this reminds me of this other video I saw where it was purporting to be these academics just saying, hi, so what's going on?
	We want to, you know, do a test to dip our toes in the water of the kids, find out, get some feedback.
	Are we doing a good job?
	But what they're really doing is it's what I call a cognitive inventory.
	And they are going up to these kids and going, how is our brainwashing coming along?
	You crying yet?
	Is Trump making you cry yet?
	Good, because we need you to cry for the cameras that we brought in here into the school.
	And we want you to cry for the camera about Trump so I can further my agenda.
	Now, I don't spite you.
	I don't have a problem with someone having an agenda.
	But enforcing it on kids and bringing cameras around and making kids cry so you can push your illegal immigration while pretending that this is all about providing the kids with the best education possible is duplicitous at best and child abuse at worst.
	Look at this.
	And it's like scary because makes hi.
	Teacher comes over.
	I know my brainwashing is going great.
	Can I just get this on film?
	And can I sell this to now?
	We want to hear about you.
	We want to hear about how school you're going.
	My mom came as a refugee student.
	If America was like, oh, no, you can't come into the United States, she would probably die.
	Stop, stop.
	Trump is saying that.
	So this student who was a refugee, looks Somalian, is saying that if my mother wasn't allowed here as a refugee, then she would have died.
	So what they're saying is that Trump isn't allowing any refugees under any conditions.
	That's what they've told these children.
	And we're going to let refugees die.
	And we want you to get in a time machine and know that if this law was there when you were around, you would have died.
	And for the record, this woman appears to be Hispanic.
	She's crying about DACA.
	Trump said the 800,000, whatever, DACA people here now, you're fine.
	Don't worry about it.
	But in the future, we're a country that lets in a million legal immigrants a year.
	So we're going to dial it back a little bit on the forgiving illegals.
	You know, maybe try to get into the same hemisphere as every other country in the entire world, including Mexico.
	You see, everyone has to make us not play by the rules, but they don't play by the rules.
	That's not how the free market works, okay?
	I can only open a restaurant and follow your rules about health if the restaurant competing with me next door follows the same rules.
	That's the deal.
	That's how it works in soccer.
	You have to have the same size net on both sides.
	So all Trump said was going to enforce the law, but these children have clearly been lied to.
	And they've been told, he says, immigrants have to go, refugees don't exist, everyone who's not a white male has to leave the country.
	And I've seen teachers say this.
	They say things like, we stand by our immigrant students.
	Okay, I don't know what that means.
	We stand by our disabled students.
	We stand by our trans students.
	What?
	Are you telling these kids that the Gestapo is going to come in and pick up paralyzed kids and slump them over their shoulder and take them over to the dumpster where they throw them in a big pile of disabled kids?
	What the hell are you teaching these poor children?
	Go ahead.
	Trying to get rid of those bad immigrants.
	What he's doing with taking away DACA is actually taking those dreams of those good immigrants and they're telling you, oh, this country is free.
	This country is a country.
	You have opportunities.
	Let's make things a lot of fun.
	Listen to the rhetoric.
	My legislator, she's sent to the airport.
	So my friend's saying that immigrants aren't there to be free people, but they have gone there for life as well.
	Stop.
	So what they're saying here is some immigrants are good people.
	Now what I'm grasping from that is these children have been told that the president has said immigrants are bad people.
	Refugees can't come here.
	Isn't that child abuse?
	Isn't that brainwashing?
	And the fact that you bring cameras in and you show off your brainwashing and then sell it to a company is bizarre.
	It's so immoral.
	And what kind of people do that?
	I can't imagine our side.
	I can't imagine the right getting some cameras out and making people cry about Obama and then selling it for profit.
	This is just disgusting.
	Look, I understand that we're enemies.
	I understand that we're going to fight about stuff.
	But can you not bring your children to the fight?
	Do you know who else uses child soldiers?
	Mugabe in Zimbabwe, the Ayatollah Khomeini, and ISIS.
	Okay?
	Nice badfellows.
	New rule.
	And by the way, most bloods and crips follow this rule.
	No kids in battle.
	No more kids coming to the Rumbles.
	Got it?
	Hey guys, let's talk about nutrition for a change.
	You know, Trump and the entire right wing is stuck in the drive-thru at McDonald's and the rest of us are innovating.
	And as the dead milkman said, at least we give a shit about the stuff we eat.
	You know, we've got ambition.
	We care about nutrition.
	And I think that the left, the progressive left, has always been at the forefront of nutrition.
	For example, mouth cooking.
	Now, when you cut a carrot or you cut a mushroom, what you do is you kill its nutrients.
	You're slicing the cells.
	So the best thing to do is break them up.
	But it's hard to break up something like a carrot with your hand.
	So what we do with mouth cooking is we just take the carrot like this, and you just sort of drop it into the plate.
	And this is good for stuff like salad, if you're making tofurki for Thanksgiving.
	This is a woman in Britain who sort of pioneered it.
	And I think you'll see that it's actually the smartest way to prepare food.
	There she goes.
	Celery.
	Oh, she eats carrots too.
	We're gonna finally dice it.
	Wait, wait, small pieces.
	Nathan Cedilla.
	Is her name Nathan?
	Get your mouth, chop it up a bit further, and get it out so we're getting nice.
	You'll notice she's crying for the ounces.
	That's one of the downsides of this.
	The knife.
	She goes.
	Putting that in the bowl.
	There we go.
	You just rip the parsley with your teeth.
	Incisors.
	That's your knife.
	See, that's the beauty of the mouth is it's already caught everything you eat in the kitchen.
	There's the steak knives at the front, there's blenders at the back with the molars.
	Very, very hard to handle.
	It really burns your mouth, but it's incredibly good for you.
	Garlic is a challenge.
	Garlic and onions are a challenge.
	Bread's easy.
	No bread knives.
	No blends.
	So this continues.
	And then she mashes it together.
	And you have mouth cooking.
	Now, this isn't the only example I want to talk about.
	There's another thing that is big with us now called freeganism.
	You've heard of vegans?
	Well, these are freegans.
	And what this woman does is she gets her food from the garbage.
	There she is.
	You would be stunned at the amount of delicious food people throw out.
	Especially doughnuts.
	I don't know what it is.
	People seem to think if a donut isn't one hour old, it's garbage.
	It's not, actually.
	Now, when you get stuff from the dumpster, you can also mouth cook it.
	So a lot of mouth cookers are freegans.
	I'm campaigning, and I want to show people that there's so much breadth of food that is being thrown away, and it is very easy for you to eat More sustainably and cheaply, just on food that people are throwing away.
	Exactly.
	What I do is that I usually stay around until closing times of the shops and I just try and observe where they throw away the food.
	There's actually a lot of freegans in London who are doing the exact same thing.
	This was originally the Krusty Punks would do this.
	It's called dumpster diving.
	But it's become more elevated now with social media.
	You find out when this woman, look, people leave a message when they're going to throw away a donut and then she comes by and has the donut.
	So it's very handy.
	It's a big challenge.
	I think what I really want to do this money is to travel around the UK and learn about different recipes that people of the United Kingdom is using to make use of the leftovers.
	I think there are so many ways we can save food and I want to share these recipes with everyone around me.
	What's the that's a donut recipe?
	I don't understand.
	So to be clear here, there's two things going on with the freegans.
	They get it from the garbage.
	Then the social media app also separately tells you when someone is going to throw away a donut at their house and you go to their house and then you grab that donut.
	And you don't see this from conservatives.
	You don't see this kind of innovation, this kind of bravery.
	They're just eating the same old crap every day.
	You know why?
	Because they don't understand Progress.
	Jack Carr, he's a Navy SEAL team leader, platoon commander, troop commander, task unit commander.
	The guy has been in the shit.
	He's been the one knocking down doors in Afghanistan and all over the Middle East.
	He was there before 9-11 when Being a Navy SEAL meant being in Colombia and Germany and having a good time.
	Then things got ugly, and he was there for the ugliness.
	But now that he's retired after 20 years, he's written a great book.
	It's kind of a Punisher-type book about a soldier who got screwed over by the government and is getting his revenge.
	You know what's funny about Jack Carrie?
	It's a friend of mine.
	His name's George.
	But when he's choosing his pen name, he was told by other guys, make it a letter C. Because when people come into a bookstore, they start from the left and they go to the right, so they do the A's and the B's.
	By the time C rolls around, you are in the mood to buy and you've sort of settled in to the bookstore.
	And you look at all these names in His genre of like crime, and you realize, wow, there's a lot of C's there.
	That's the hot name to have.
	Anyway, it's a fun book.
	I'm not a fiction guy, but as far as fiction goes, this is my cup of tea.
	Just like unbridled violence and revenge.
	Let's talk to Jack right now.
	Jack Carr, are you there, sir?
	I'm here.
	I am here.
	I'm just reading The terminal list, a thriller.
	I never read fiction, but I'm enjoying this because it smells real.
	Well, thank you.
	It should, and I think that's what caught the eye of Simon Schuster and Emily and Bessler and Emily Bessler books because really the emotions that the protagonist feels are emotions that happen to me in real life.
	And all I did was take those emotions, twist them into a fictional story, and do something that I've always wanted to do, which is well you talk, you can see the survivor's guilt in it, where these guys get sent home and they can't take it that others didn't make it.
	They feel so much guilt that they survived.
	Yep, unfortunately, that's a big issue these days and one that I've become all too familiar with.
	And once you're in this game long enough, you get pretty good at spotting it.
	Guys are just different people.
	Well, if you notice them being different people than they were before deployment, there's a lot of science there.
	So unfortunately, it's something we have to deal with.
	So this book is about a major slaughter that happened on the American side.
	And the protagonist doesn't think it was jihadists.
	He thinks it was the government setting them up for a fall.
	Right.
	Well, he doesn't know right away.
	And it slowly unravels throughout the course of the story.
	But there's a pharmaceutical company that has some interest in testing out some drugs on our nation's most elite soldiers, which is unfortunately something that has happened in the past.
	Yeah, isn't that how we discovered LSD?
	That's the rumor.
	I don't know if it's actually true or not, but there's that one.
	Then there's some other ones that have been more substantiated from the church hearings back in the late 70s, things that the CIA was doing back then.
	And the result of those hearings were some memorandums and some regulations that would keep that from happening again.
	And I just wrote a story where some people in the pharmaceutical industry and government didn't get those memos and did it again here in the future.
	Is the government killing our guys?
	As far as like I described in the book or just information.
	Well yeah, like what's the limit to it?
	There's definitely a level of negligence.
	And I've been talking to soldiers who have been there where they said that they got shot at from a mosque and their commanding officer was saying, don't shoot back, don't shoot back.
	And the only way they could have lived was to say, what?
	I can't hear you.
	Whoops.
	And then shooting back at the mosque to prevent being murdered.
	Right, right.
	So the rules of engagement are interpreted by both attorneys and commanding officers downrange.
	And that actually shifts over time.
	You might have the same rules of engagement, but the interpretation of those rules I've seen related to soldiers in different ways.
	And a lot of that has to do with the political climate.
	So I've definitely heard of that happening.
	But you always have the inherent right to self-defense.
	So with my guys, I always went back to that.
	You always have the right, inherent right to defend yourself.
	Even if they're jihadists or shooting from a children's hospital.
	Right, because that thing is now being used for a military purpose.
	But, you know, how farther you go up the chain of command, the more blurred that becomes.
	And obviously, the enemy's gotten very good at using media and using social media against us to get their story out, even if places like that are being used for a military purpose.
	In Israel, they call it Pollywood, the Palestinians making up stories.
	But I know that the government isn't sitting there.
	I know Obama wasn't sitting there saying, let's murder 10 Green Berets today.
	That's fantastical.
	But the level of negligence, like you look at Benghazi with Charlene Lamb, where they said, there's about to be a major catastrophe here.
	We need more weapons.
	And she goes, nah, you'll be fine.
	And I see the Obama administration as murdering our guys with negligence.
	Yeah, I'm sure things like that have happened since the beginning of time.
	You know, the farther you go up the food chain and the more removed those people come from the actual decisions that they're making.
	So yeah, I knew both the SEALs killed that day in Benghazi.
	And yeah, I mean, tough situation all around, obviously.
	It's horrific.
	Do you think there's a difference between the Obama administration and the Trump administration as far as soldiers' lives overseas and morale in general?
	Yeah, you know, that's a tough one because I've been out since Trump became president, so I don't have a first-hand experience there.
	But when you're on the ground, you definitely have, your connection to that support is through the politics of how the rules of engagement are interpreted and then the type of gear and support that you get and the type of missions that you're approved to do.
	So all of that morphs over time, especially in something that's 16 plus years long.
	So I couldn't tell you what they're feeling right now on the ground, but my guess is that they're getting the support and the equipment that they need.
	What do you think about Mad Dog Mattis?
	Yeah.
	So I heard him speak once.
	I met him one time.
	And yeah, I think he's a tough guy.
	He's from the old school.
	So I'm a fan.
	Yeah.
	We had Terry Shepherd on the show, and we were saying, what do we do about jihad?
	I'm not a neocon.
	I don't like constantly meddling in the Middle East.
	However, when there are miscreants and jihadists who are threatening the entire Western world, sometimes you got to go on a cleaning spree.
	And he said, his thing was, just let us do our job.
	That's how we could win.
	Right, right.
	And I mean, that's obviously simplistic, but yeah, the full spectrum approach that we use today, we don't have total war anymore.
	We have to accept that we don't just go in there and clean house like you would have 50 years ago.
	But at the same time, we have some tools at our disposal that weren't available 50 years ago, even 20 years ago.
	So that full spectrum approach, I do think that is the only option going forward because we don't commit ourselves to total war anymore.
	What is the only option going forward?
	Well, I've said we don't have that total war option that we did in World War II and wors before that.
	So option going forward is, well, really, those communities that are involved in, that are supporting this jihad are really the ones that have to solve the problem.
	That's where the solutions are going to come from.
	All day long, we can be like Baghdad SWAT or Kabul SWAT, but hey, 10, 15, 20 years from now, we're probably going to be doing the exact same things.
	Well, this book, The Terminal List, it reminds me of The Punisher in a lot of ways, where there's deep-seated corruption that got soldiers killed.
	do you feel animosity towards the American government?
	No, no.
	I know that, you know, maybe it's just because I'm generally an optimistic type person, but I have to believe that they are doing the best that they can and have been doing the best they can to deal with some very difficult situations.
	So I tend to give the benefit of the doubt just in general.
	So I don't hold them culpable for the last 16 years, just having been on the ground over there and knowing what chaos it is and how hard it is to make the decisions.
	So yeah, I don't hold them culpable.
	So you sympathize with Reese, but you and Reese don't have the same kind of animosity for the White House.
	Well, there's some other things that happens to the protagonist there, James Reese, that aren't just the American government getting his guys killed through negligence.
	There's some other things at play that make him go on this rampage.
	And really, I've always wanted to explore that age-old theme of revenge without constraint, which is why that was the first book that I decided to write.
	I wanted to write since I was a little kid, wanted to be a SEAL, and wanted to write fiction.
	So as that SEAL time was coming to an end, I figured it was time to give writing a try, and that's why I went with the Revenge Without Constraint theme, which is explored in the terminal list.
	It's a great trope allah's dads love and have loved since Charles Bronson was in Deathwish.
	That's it.
	It's what I loved growing up, loved reading, loved watching movies about.
	So that's why I decided to go with that for the first one.
	And no, super exciting.
	It's been an awesome process.
	Right on, dude.
	Well, check it out, folks at home, the terminal list, starring Jack by Jack Carr.
	It's a fun book, and thanks for coming on the show.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks for having me.
	Really appreciate it.
	How many times do we have to explain this to the obese left, the feminist left?
	When we see a gigantic fat pig, we don't think, I hate you, you don't have the right to exist.
	We don't want to be like grade school kids and make up some rhyme about fatty, fatty, boombalatty.
	We see someone who is dying, who got a gift from God called life and is abusing that gift, which is a sin, which is blasphemy, which is going to kill you.
	It's exactly the same as heroin addicts.
	When you see a junkie, you go, oh man, what are you doing?
	When you see someone addicted to food, you go, oh, you're going to die.
	You never see really old fat people.
	But in this need to make everyone on the right ashamed of themselves and everyone on the left proud of themselves, we have people who are dying who are told they're beautiful.
	And this is a little segment called, I got 99 problems, but fat ain't one.
	Yes, it is.
	Let's check her out.
	She used to be worried about her fatness, and now she's a model because her friend takes pictures of her.
	Now, by the way, I know plenty of guys who are this fat, and I go, dude, what is going on?
	You're a fat pig.
	And he always, every man I know who's a fat pig goes, I know I'm a fat pig.
	I got to get this together.
	I got to do this.
	Now, I'm not laughing at him.
	I'm not shoving him.
	We're not going, ew, you can't drink with us, Fat Peter.
	You're going, do something about that.
	And he always says, I know.
	That's the first step to not dying.
	The first step to dying is to say, I'm a butterfly.
	Check this out.
	Then the butterfly emerged as we call Jules.
	There she is.
	She's rich, too.
	She's right on the water.
	Look at that.
	Look at that.
	You're dying.
	That's not pretty.
	I got into modeling actually through a friend.
	She was a photographer.
	So she invited me out to do this body positive shoot because she knew I was starting to get Look at that.
	That's exactly like a junkie.
	Actually, we have done this.
	Heroin chic.
	Remember in the 80s when people who would be dying of heroin addiction were seen as a cool look?
	That is equally bad.
	But heroin hasn't killed 500,000 people a year.
	So this is much more serious.
	I think our two biggies are smoking and sex.
	And I loved it.
	I realized it was such a great way to continue to inspire women.
	I would definitely say that modeling is a career for me.
	I definitely introduce myself more as a body positive activist, but my modeling goes hand in hand with dad.
	Oh, that's pretty, right?
	Yeah, these are gorgeous.
	Gorgeous?
	Gorgeous.
	Okay, here's a clue, ladies.
	If men look at pictures of you and say things like, how many beers, or go back and forth on how much they'd have to be paid to sleep with you, that means you're not gorgeous.
	It means you're dying.

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