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Dec. 13, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
It's called the only my side.
I think it'll be a situation, gonna make it right.
In the shadow of the darkness, I stand in the light.
It's here.
It's a...
Ah, that's Tim Armstrong from Rancid.
Fall Back Down, a song about divorcing his wife, Brodie Dale.
She ended up being Josh Homey's wife.
Josh Homey was the guy we were talking about yesterday who kicked that camera.
Oh, he kicked the camera.
Apologize.
Let's write about it.
Let's talk about women.
He kicked a woman.
God, I hate all this documentation.
I hate that we're being monitored all the time.
I hate that Netflix is joking about the 53 people who watch this show, laughing at our habits, shoving them back in our face.
I hate that my wife was talking about those flying things, you know, where you go into a cylindrical booth with a fan and it lifts you off the ground.
And she said, I might want to go there on my birthday.
She gets an ad on Instagram for the one nearest us.
She never said the name of the place.
She also was talking about face oil the other day.
She says, I promised me, I never Googled it.
And then she showed me an ad for face oil.
That's it there.
So I've been saying cat food, cat food, cat food for the past three days because there was a couple who did that and they got cat food ads.
And I hate cats.
I've never said the word cat food before.
So I'll keep you posted on that.
But yeah, this concept of being monitored and everything has to be documented and everything has to be apologized for at a rock show where you got your camera in.
It's a rock show.
When I was a kid, we would go to mosh pits and there'd be Nazi skinheads punching us and we'd go, ow, that hurt and be bleeding.
But it was just something you did.
The mosh pit itself was a bunch of fists.
And now we have women coming in going, I can't do my photography properly.
But check out Josh's apology.
He apologized to his mother, among other people, for all this.
And so I apologize also to my bandmates and my mom and my dad, my wife, my brother, and my kids.
All right, that's enough.
He goes, I got to work out some stuff here.
I don't know.
If you're getting sued for $3 million and an apology will take it down to $500,000, would you compromise yourself for $2.5 million?
It depends.
It depends on what the compromise is.
If I was told I had to lie and say my entire trip to the right, my entire problem with Islam was a lie and I'm secretly liberal and I love Islam and I don't mean anything I say for the past 10 years, no.
Sorry.
No money on earth.
That would make my wife so mad too.
Sorry, I emptied our fortune because I refuse to apologize.
And I do refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.
Hence, the Proud Boy's motto.
So also in the gossip pages, before we get started today, the post, of course, is Christmas Terror.
A dollar short, a day late.
ISIS-inspired Bombers Subway Dud chose spot because of Yule protesters.
Oh, we know dinosaur media.
I love the New York Post, but it's like reading history 24 hours late every day.
Artie Lang, you know him?
Fat guy was with Howard Stern until he pointed out Howard Stern looks exactly like a pelican.
Then he coincidentally lost his job after that.
Big drug addict, lost his septum with cocaine.
He burnt through it.
And heroin addict, always has blood coming out of his nose.
You know the way little kids always have snot coming out of their nose?
He always has blood.
Anyway, he does a great show with Anthony Coomia, Artie and Anthony.
And Anthony Coomia is the shock jock, Opian Anthony.
I used to work there.
Love those guys.
Love their show.
But we saw Artie Quitter this weekend after his tweet together with Anthony Coomia and the decision for him to address his health issues require him not having to worry about being at the AA show this week.
Addressing his health issues is priority number one.
So if he's still doing heroin and he's quitting heroin, I heard it feels like third-degree burns on your entire body.
And I've done heroin a few times.
Wonderful drug.
But the cons outweigh the pros.
You could OD at any moment.
You can get there with beer and pot and all kinds of other drugs.
You get damn close.
I say, never, of course, there.
It's a splendid euphoria.
You get pretty close.
It's like, you know, there's a 9 with AIDS and a 7.9 without AIDS.
Who are you going to have sex with without a condom?
Go with the 7.9.
You'll live.
I also wanted to talk about this Sarah Sanders.
It's been a crazy week for the fake news.
They've had, I think I counted five major blunders this week with saying they have proof that KT McFarlane colluded with the Russians to having to apologize for anonymous sources that were totally invalid.
They just grab it and run.
Like the Mike Flynn thing with Joy Behar going, all right, we got it.
Let's go.
We're finally done.
We got Russia.
By the way, I think this week the good news is they screwed up so many times that they've given up on Russia and now they're just focusing on sexual harassment, which even that is turning out to be a nothing burger.
Oh, he asked a woman for her phone number.
I'm shaking in my boots.
What a serial rapist.
He's replacing Manson.
Let's impeach him.
But anyway, Levin and Tucker Carlson were talking about this.
This analogy they're now using to justify their mistakes is, we're like astronomers.
We're scientists ironing out the kinks.
This is just our Petri dish showing mold instead of acidic carcinogens.
Check out this David Frumm explaining it all to us.
Astronomers make mistakes all the time because science is a process of discovery of truth.
Astrologers never make mistakes, or at least they never own up to them, because what they are offering is a closed system of ideology and propaganda.
It's weird watching Levin on CRTV.
People just go, why don't I just watch Levin on Levin?
But there's a crucial problem with his analogy here.
This show is like a philosophy show where we go, isn't it weird?
Isn't it weird how these sort of spinster New York women with dried-up ovaries, how they're obsessed with Beyoncé, and they see her as a goddess and they depict her as the Virgin Mary and they have these pictures of her, you know, holding her baby and Kim Kardashian's baby.
They love that.
But the idea of them having children is 0% chance.
In fact, when Lauren Southern did that quiz on the street in London, same demographic, she said, would you rather have dogs or babies?
They all said dogs, all of them.
So it's just weird the way they are disgusted by the concept of them having a kid, but then they worship Beyoncé and Kim Kardashian's babies.
That's a thought.
It's not a fact.
It's a philosophical thing I've been working on up here, and I would like to work on it with you.
So that's, you could say that's an astronomer thing.
But this isn't breaking news.
You don't tune in here to find out what the name of the terrorist was.
This is more like we discussed the news.
The stories that got screwed up this week from CNN, they're not philosopher news.
That is breaking news.
Hi, thanks for tuning in to CNN.
Donald Trump had 12 Diet Cokes today, and his TV was on in the background.
Oh yeah, there's also some sort of pipe bomb with a man, a disturbed man.
I heard so many versions of that yesterday.
A disturbed man from Brooklyn had a bomb go off unexpectedly.
Yeah, workplace violence.
Okay, so the astronomer astrology thing is pathetic, but what's really pathetic is to watch these floundering buffoons yelling at Sarah Sanders.
Now, I have kids over all the time.
My four-year-old will have play dates.
I'll host birthday parties at my house for my kids.
And there's a thing when they're in trouble, like a plate gets smashed or something, and you go, what's going on here?
What happened here?
Oh, he was over there.
No, when he came in here, they were trying to grab that piece of cake.
And look, I don't want to hear snitches.
Snitches get stitches.
I just want to know how this fell.
Don't blame anyone.
And that's how these people are talking to Sarah Sanders.
Now, this is a long clip, but we'll just hop around it.
But basically anywhere we go, you're going to see petulant brats at a birthday party yelling at mom trying to cover their asses.
Thanks, Sarah.
The president reacted quite angrily over the weekend to a Washington Post reporter's tweet about crowd size that was quickly deleted.
I'm wondering if you can help explain the discrepancy between the president's reaction to incidents like this, which he calls fake news and talks quite a bit about, and his silence on actual disinformation campaigns like Russia ran during the 2016 election to deliberately.
Can you just pause it here?
You know what a real issue is?
They see themselves as one cohesive blob.
Scientists aren't like that.
Scientists go, I'm going to get that.
I'm going to sequence that genome way before that cucker.
He thinks he's hot sh ⁇ .
I'm way better than him.
They don't go, we're scientists.
You have to love us.
You have to respect all of us.
We're never wrong.
He deleted that tweet really quickly.
False information.
So both his silence on that and does he recognize the difference between these two?
Difference, look, the president's simply calling out a very durable.
Sorry, can you stop it?
Did you understand that?
Sorry, I keep interrupting, so I have to explain what I just talked over.
But he's saying, look, yeah, we made some mistakes that we deleted very quickly, but Russia, Russia was pushing fake propaganda.
Russia was lying.
Why don't you get mad at Russia and not me?
What?
They're little kids.
Okay, keep going.
And false accusation lodged against him.
There was nothing more than an individual trying to put their bias into their reporting and something that, frankly, has gotten a little bit out of control.
We've seen it time and time again over the last couple of weeks.
A number of outlets have had to retract and change and rewrite and make editor's notes to a number of different stories, some of them with major impacts, including moving markets.
This is a big problem, and we think it's something that should be taken seriously.
Jim reporters' mistakes and disinformation campaign by a foreign government.
Does he see a distinction there?
I haven't spoken with one of them because.
Jump ahead like 10 seconds.
Sometimes, and a lot of times you don't.
But there's a difference.
There's a very big...
I'm not finished.
There's a very big difference between making honest mistakes and purposefully misleading the American people.
Something that happens regularly.
You can't say I'm not done.
You cannot say, you can't say There it is.
Did you see that?
Is that a kid at a birthday party or what?
Sarah!
It was an honest mistake, Sarah.
This keeps going.
It's an honest mistake.
Purposely putting out information that you know to be false.
Or when you're taking information that hasn't been validated, that hasn't been offered any credibility, and that has been continually denied by a number of people, including people with direct knowledge of an instance.
This is something that I'm speaking about the number of reports that have taken place over the last couple of weeks.
I'm simply stating that there should be a certain level of responsibility in that process.
This was not.
Brian, I called on Jim.
So that whole press conference is them screaming and saying, why are we in trouble?
You're being too mean.
And then, of course, the left can't shut up about how she's not attractive enough for them.
They love that about Kellyanne Conway, too, who's 50.
Sorry, she's not sexy enough for you, you feminists.
Anyway, that is an example of a woman who should be in the workforce.
She's great at her job, and we appreciate you.
But I've been thinking recently about these sexual harassment cases and how a lot of them, the way these women are behaving kind of inadvertently shows that most of them shouldn't be in the workplace.
So we're going to talk to a roaming millennial about that, who the left doesn't make jokes about how ugly she is for some reason.
But before that, I want to get back to this bully thing, because this case has exploded since we talked about it yesterday.
And The Root and Vibe and other African American media is saying that the mother's racist and she's just money grabbing.
We've seen that there's these GoFundMe accounts that I think raised $57,000.
Those GoFundMe accounts are fake, by the way.
I don't think the mother was raising any money.
They have a picture of a Confederate flag from the dad that's up.
I heard stories of the dad being a nightmare.
I heard of him beating the crap out of the mom, punching her teeth in, hitting the kids regularly.
None of this has been validated.
In fact, Vibe and The Root just ran with these, oh, she said this racist tweet, and she said this on a DM, and there's no evidence that it was her.
The only thing I could find for sure is I found a tweet from the sister from last year saying he cries himself to sleep every night.
He hates how much he gets bullied.
That's the only legit thing I've seen so far.
And you're allowed to carry the Confederate flag, by the way.
It's not proof that you were a racist and your kids deserve to be bullied.
And that is sort of the problem with all this new information is we're attacking the parents and we're attacking the Confederate flag and we're saying maybe the kid's mom was racist.
The kid was bullied.
And I believe, as with almost everything, the real issue here is fatherhood.
Let's talk to Stéphane Molignieu about the patriarchy and how that relates to this case.
Stéphane, are you there, sir?
I certainly am.
How are you doing, Gavin?
I'm great.
Great.
Enjoying Christmas, getting excited, getting the jingle-tingle.
Nice.
I was talking yesterday about this Keaton Jones kid, and I'm just, I'm disturbed by it.
I'm disturbed by so many different parts.
I don't like that he says that is not okay.
That's a really derivative sort of social justice mom thing to say.
I don't like these sports stars sending him a poem.
And more importantly, I don't like that she put this up on social media.
It is a very complicated thing for me.
I have sort of a rational side and an emotional side.
And we are a balance of both.
So from the emotional side, you know, the kid is very upset.
Other kids are being mean to him.
And there is, you know, great sympathy for him.
I mean, nobody wants to see their kid go through that kind of stuff.
And nobody wants to go through that kind of stuff.
I have very little experience with bullying myself, although the small amount that I did encounter ended up with me determining to be more charming, more funny, and so on to win over people and so on.
And I think that helped.
But the challenge is, of course, nobody asks the big question of how did this all come to pass?
How did it come to pass that this kid ended up in this kind of situation?
I haven't seen any indication of a dad.
There are some indications from posts the mom has made that there's maybe a history of violence in the family.
There may have been bullying from the father.
And so I just look at the entire ecosystem of what has been going on in this family.
And I view the bullying that manifests as school totally wrong, absolutely wrong, and should be opposed and should be dealt with.
But my question is not always how do we deal with the symptoms at the moment, but what are the long-term causes of this?
If this kid grew up in a violent household, if he doesn't have access to a father or has a negative experience of a father, if the mother was bullied in the household, all of these things could very easily combine to create a kind of flashpoint for the manifestation of bullying, which again should be dealt with great sympathy for the kids, but I'm always a big one for, okay, what are all the dominoes that led to this last domino?
And that is a very tough subject for a lot of people.
Well, these sports stars and all this virtue signaling, it's just giving a man a fish.
And we need to teach a man how to fish in this case.
And, you know, I say to my boys, when you go to school, always do twice as much back as you get.
So if someone punches you, you punch them back twice as hard.
Even if it's a friend joking, if your friend goes, punch Buggy Red, then you go, BAM!
And then he goes, what the hell's your problem?
Relax, dude.
That establishes you on the hierarchical savage plane and people know not to mess with you.
So this kid obviously hasn't made it clear that you will get punched in the nose if you attack him.
And that's a father's job.
And we're discouraged from this.
In fact, my kids are told, if you see any violence, run and get a teacher.
And I said to my son, what if Sophie, my daughter's getting beat up?
And he said, we have to go get a teacher.
And I go, ah, no, don't go get a teacher.
Jump on the guy.
Well, this, of course, when I was growing up, and I went to government schools, I went to a private boarding school for a couple of years when I was six.
The idea of running to a teacher was anathema when I was growing up.
Like the idea that you're like, eh, you know, run to run to a, you're supposed to deal with it yourself as best you can.
Like if there's a huge size disparity.
And Lord knows in junior high school, I know the kids not in junior high school, but in junior high school, you know, you've got some kids who have yet to break the puberty sweat and you've got other kids who look like they need a lawnmower to shave the backs of their fingers because they've just become these huge ogre man monsters.
And so like, it's like when we played Murder Ball, it used to be called.
It's now called Dodgeball because I guess there's no truth in advertising anymore.
But you had the kids who had to hide behind the fat kids.
You had the kids who could pick up this giant ball with one hand and shoot it like a cannon.
There's a huge physical disparity.
In that situation, you can't really do it.
But at the age he is, there's probably not as big of a disparity.
He's not a small kid.
So it is, of course, the hope that you can do it through verbal attacks.
You can do it through making fun.
You can do it through jokes.
Or maybe you have to retaliate if you're being attacked in that kind of way.
Those are stopgap measures.
Again, I sort of go back to, okay, why is he in this school to begin with?
If your kid is being bullied in school, take him out of the school.
I agree.
I don't agree.
You can't take it.
Now you don't have to run.
I met this couple the other day who moved because their kid was getting bullied so much.
They could go to a different school.
And the idea of rolling up a carpet in my home because someone gave my boy a wedgie, I mean, you're going to be constantly on the lamb.
What you mean, the witness protection program?
You have to stay and fight.
I mean, obviously, if it's the worst school on earth and there's like a stabbing or something, but I don't think running is the solution.
I don't think they should take him out of school.
He's got to punch one in the nose.
Well, okay, so if it's dangerous for your kid, of course, I mean, we're not talking about a wedgie.
Like if it's dangerous to your kid, then and you and you can't solve it with the school.
You know, one of the challenges with school, I don't know, I mean, it may be different.
Maybe this is like two, get off my lawn, two old guys talking.
when I was a kid, you could solve these kinds of things with aggression.
And I remember a good friend of mine got into a conflict with another kid when we were in junior high school.
They met out back and they just had it out.
That was possible.
Now, I don't know if it's diversity.
I don't know if it's like fatherless kids.
I don't know if what's going on.
But a lot of these things can really escalate to the point where people can get hurt.
You do trigger gang stuff.
I don't know what kind of school this kid's in.
If he's in a fairly reasonable school, okay, yeah.
But if there is the potential for escalation, then there is, I think there's reason enough to take your kid out of the environment.
Again, not if it's a little thing, not if you can't deal with it, but that requires a huge amount of intervention on the part of the parents.
And that to me is that, can you go talk to the other kid's parents?
And again, having your mom go talk to the other kid's parents isn't always the very best of ideas.
That can make things pretty bad as well.
But I am concerned about if you sort of take the, we're going to pop them in the nose, whether this starts to set in motion, the kind of escalation that can be really dangerous.
I think escalation is the solution here.
Fighting solves everything.
And I hate the idea of the state getting involved.
Teach kids not to bully, they always say.
And what we're doing is we're taking away tools from children.
Life is being bullied.
Life is confrontation.
Life is attacks.
And even if, I don't care if you're working in real estate in Kentucky, there's going to be some adversarial tension there with a bully trying to take your clients.
And you have to learn how to fight physically, literally, in order to be able to do it metaphorically in the future.
Okay, let's say that that's a solution.
I guess the big problem then becomes, Gavin, who's going to teach this boy how to fight?
Is it going to be the mom?
I pretty much think not.
Other male relatives around?
Could he go to some sort of martial arts school?
I mean, what happens from here?
Because you certainly don't want to send a kid into a self-defense situation half prepared.
They really better know what the hell is going on.
And this is, again, one of the parts of the problem, the single mother phenomenon is that, you know, who is going to teach this sort of alpha male behavior?
Exactly.
Exactly.
And that's why this is such a big case, because it's indicative of a much bigger solution, which I believe is the death of patriarchy.
Wait, the solution is the death of the patriarchy?
No, I think what's really, what we're seeing here is a dying patriarchy in society.
And that's what led us to all of this.
I mean, bullying is nothing new, but putting it on social media so football players can literally read him a poem that Buddha wrote is.
Well, it's a funny thing, too, because I think it's a boy-girl thing to some degree.
Because I don't know, when I was a kid, if girls cried, everyone was like, oh, what can we do to help?
Oh, you're upset.
You're sad.
But if boys cried, it was like, come on, snap out of it.
Walk it off.
Oh, you know.
Spit it out.
You know, it'll regrow.
That bone's going to set.
You'll be fine.
I mean, I remember as a kid, you know, everybody does this when they're a kid.
You're playing tag.
I was playing tag in a school playground.
I was about, I don't know, eight or nine years old.
And you do this thing where you're running full tilt to get away from some kid who's chasing you.
And you turn around to check behind you, right?
Everybody does their rear view thing.
And it's like when you're driving.
You know, I can't even watch movies where people are chatting away while they're driving.
It's like, because I'm just waiting for that snack, right?
So I'm doing the thing.
I'm running like full tilt.
And I was a fast kid.
I'm still a pretty fast adult, but I was a fast kid.
And I looked around and I was like, I looked around to taunt the kid who was like not able to catch me.
Naturally, of course, I turned back and run straight into a metal fence.
And I mean, literally, it was like head explosion of blood.
I mean, it was somewhat similar to, I don't know, beheading a fat guy.
It was like that, because it was like right here, the bridge of the nose, the thinnest skin on the body.
And it was just like blood splosion.
Geiser.
And I went to the hospital and people were just like, eh, you'll be fine.
You don't even need stitches.
You'll be able to walk this off.
But, you know, one girl stubs his toes and is like, oh, so I think for the mom, it's like, well, if my kid cries, if he was a girl, that would be pretty effective.
Now, I guess she could argue that it's pretty effective given the response.
But as a guy, I think that the guy crying phenomena does not fall eventually into the same slot, so to speak, as the girl crying phenomena.
But you might need a dad around to tell you that.
You can only cry if you're looking at videos of Marines surprising their kids after being away for a year.
And that you can't do the ugly cry for that.
You just have to have that one where you just go.
Yeah, it's like the Tyr is a prisoner escaping from a Nazi high walled jail.
It doesn't buckle.
You can't get the song in the Living Years or the song The Living Years.
Maybe if you're feeling particularly tired, that can do it to you as well.
But yeah, the Datir's thing.
But it's working.
This is the amazing thing.
It's working in terms of the moms getting resources and so on.
My particular concern, not with this family, it's like, okay, what kind of plethora of crying sons is now going to avalanche over the internet because it gets so many resources and so much attention.
It's going to become the new trans kid.
Oh, great.
What have we unleashed?
Stefan, thank you very much for coming on the show.
Always enlightening.
I love to see a fellow patriarch worried about the death of the patriarchy.
Thanks, Gavin.
A great pleasure.
Cheers.
I've always thought that Japanese is something you can just guess, right?
I feel like I could just speak Japanese just by guessing.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, so I'm going to go to the next one.
Oh, come on, it does.
You have to concentrate.
Urukus, nurkusu, kutsutsu to.
Urukus, I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
If I fall back down, you're gonna help me back up.
The workplace in New York City, especially, is an MMA cage.
It's brutal.
It's rough.
It's cutthroat.
I like it.
I like confrontation.
But there's been times when it's almost gotten physical, like fistfights over the years.
I've been an entrepreneur, started at an ad agency, a media company.
You're competing with other people all the time, they're lying about you.
I mean, it's not high school, it is MMA.
And I noticed, by the way, that the more you fight in real life, the better you do in business.
And there's also sort of a sexuality there with all these alphas.
And no, they should not be able to sexually harass anyone.
But the way these women are dealing with it by keeping it quiet for 20 years or having sex with the guy or just ignoring it, it just makes me think maybe most of these women don't even belong in the workforce at all.
Sorry, controversial thing.
And again, to be crystal clear, if someone sexually molests you or touches you in a way you don't want, go to the cops.
That's illegal.
Don't allow them to do that to you.
But I was touched by this app women have developed that helps them be more empowered at meetings.
Check out this video.
So I'm about to head into a meeting and I'm going to try out the Ally app for the first time so that I can track what I'm doing in the meeting.
So I have it opened up here.
By the way, can you just pause this?
Unless Ally is paying me and they say, can we shoot you at work when you're doing a meeting?
I'd go, what?
No, no.
And here's another thing.
Meetings are stupid.
If you really are an entrepreneur, if you really belong there, if you're really a moneymaker, you know that meetings are a waste of time.
And if you really belong in the workforce, you should hate meetings.
You should think they're stupid.
It's just where people can showboat and say, oh, I got to get my two cents in.
Real men, they're like this at meetings.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, can we wrap this up here?
I think we got it.
I think we're good, right?
And you should be sitting in a meeting going, couldn't you just have emailed this to me?
Why are we going over this and having everyone give their two cents?
What is this?
Alcoholics Synonymous?
I don't want to talk to you people.
Let's get back to work.
Let's look what she's doing, though, to learn how to be more male in meetings.
I'm going to choose that I'm going to be empowered because I'm trying to speak more in this meeting.
So it looks like it's asking me how I'm going to empower myself.
So I'm just going to tap here.
I want to speak at least once in this meeting.
Starting with small goals is one of the things.
Okay, stop.
Just stop.
Look at this woman's vibe.
She is a fish out of water.
She's trying to make something happen.
She looks like she'd be a great mom.
She's got a good attitude, optimistic.
She wants to try things.
She wants to help out.
This is a perfect housewife.
And there she is stuck in a stupid meeting at some dumb job where she needs a computer to tell her that she's valid.
Go ahead.
And then after that, it gives a suggestion.
So in this case, it's saying I can use a power phrase before I make my point.
So I think the idea there is that if I start with something that I really feel strong about saying, then I can finish the rest of my thoughts without feeling as nervous.
So now I can just press to record and head into the news.
By the way, our goal is clear.
Our goal is to keep the client happy and get money and then get more gigs so we continue to do this, continue to do this so we can all make money and all have our jobs.
That's our goal.
I don't think we need to state that.
Just go get to work.
Stop having this stupid meeting.
Ugh, how embarrassing too that she said, there's a film crew outside.
We're doing an app that's making me feel empowered because I want to talk more at meetings.
Good, you talk more at meetings.
I'm going to go back to work over here.
But anyway, let's just finish it up.
So I've just come out of my meeting and now I'm looking at my summary stats from the meeting in the Ally app.
So it looks kind of like that.
It shows me how long I spoke and it looks like I spoke for four whole minutes, which I think exceeds my goal of speaking once.
And that I was really positive and honest when I spoke.
So good information to have moving forward.
No, it's totally useless information for a totally useless app for totally useless women doing totally useless jobs.
Similarly, 95% of men would be happier in the workforce.
It's a sexist thing that I believe.
It's mostly based on feels.
I'm very emotional that way.
I'm like a woman.
But there is a lot of data out there that says that women have become less happy since feminism.
And I see it with my own eyes.
Why are you trying to fit a square peg into a round hole?
Of course there are women who belong in the workforce.
Of course there are tough, ballsy women that can tell some guy who wants to molest them that he's going to jail.
There are women there who can compete with competitors and kick ass and take names and get it done.
I love working with those women.
Everyone does.
Because when you're at work, you don't care about sex and gender.
You just want to make money and get the job done.
Let's ask a lady who I guess I work with, sort of, right?
She's a guest on my show.
And she's attractive and not particularly confrontational.
But let's ask her where she feels on this theory.
Roaming, are you there?
I'm here.
Wonderful.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Now, I have to talk to a woman about this because it's very controversial, these feelings I've been having.
But it's so hard to even say this because it sounds like you're saying women can't go to work because they'll get raped because they wore a short skirt and they're asking for it and blah, blah, blah.
And there's no blame on the culprit.
Of course, sex harassment is bad.
But part of me can't help but look at this and go, isn't this evidence that women don't prosper, don't belong in the workforce?
I think there's probably a lot of an argument to be made that certain fields are not friendly to women.
No, and I think we even learned this earlier years ago when all of these cases of sexual harassment in the military came out.
Right.
Yes, that's a good thing.
This isn't a new story.
And I think when we look at a lot of these fields, I mean, it's often, like you said, there's no excuse for it.
But at the same time, I think women need to make smart choices of the places they choose to work and the people they choose to surround themselves with.
I mean, places like Hollywood aren't exactly the, oh yeah, I'm sure they care a lot about, you know, respecting women and consent.
Sorry, that's just not how it is.
Well, you're hot, and I'm working with you right now.
And There's bad thoughts going on in the back, but I can control them.
But some guys can't.
And it's insane to say, all right, well, then no pretty girls at work.
That's obviously draconian.
That's Stalinist Russia.
But I don't know, the way some of these women deal with it, I just think, what are you doing here?
Like, the whole concept of having sex with someone you don't want to, like, lying underneath him, and just as he has sex with you, you're just sort of there going, oh, well, at least my career will help.
That's insane.
Right.
And again, I don't think anyone's at fault but the person perpetrating the harassment or the abuse.
But I think in a lot of ways, women who, you know, we hear these stories from, I have to wonder, why didn't you speak out?
Why didn't you say something?
And, you know, you hear stories, oh, but I tried and they didn't listen.
Say it louder.
Quit.
Find a different job.
Get evidence.
Record.
I don't know.
Just something.
I refuse to believe that your only option, unless, of course, they were applying force.
But if we're just talking about coercion, like, you know, I refuse to believe that just, you know, you just had to sit there and take it was your only option.
No, like do something.
That's it.
You've helped me crack it.
Like Barbara Corcoran, Maggie Thatcher.
There's millions upon millions of women who thrive in the workplace and should be there.
Corcoran revolutionized real estate in New York City.
She deserves every penny she has.
But I would remember when I used to box, I would go to meetings and I would do better.
I ran an ad agency at the time and I would do better because so much of business is conflict and you're competing with other bidders and you're trying to seduce clients and stuff and they might get in there.
And you get a lot of, not physical fights, but you get a lot of sort of chest puffing.
And you have to go, f ⁇ you to that guy.
And women aren't naturally confrontational.
So they tend to acquiesce.
And that can be really bad when you're dealing with a sexual predator.
Absolutely.
I think a lot of women have issues with, I guess, standing up for themselves or being more confrontational.
And that's something we see.
I think a lot of the reason why women aren't as represented in, you know, Fortune 500 companies as CEOs and stuff like that, because that is a lot of what's in business.
But I think, you know, the fact that women kind of are naturally like that and we're trying to have to bend over backwards as a society to facilitate people being like that, but we still want to be able to give them a fair shot.
Like, no, I think if you're going to be in the workforce, you need to be able to, I guess, stand up for yourself and be tough and not let people walk all over you, whether it's a jerk boss who's overstepping the line.
You need to tell him to F off or just speaking up for yourself in meetings.
But if that's not you, if you're not a confrontational person, I don't think it can be nurtured.
I think you should just go, oh, well, I'm a stay-at-home mom.
I'd be better off there.
I'd be happier there.
Like that app video that I showed before this interview.
Just look at her demeanor.
The way she's sort of like, okay, well, here I'm doing a meeting and it says I should say something empowering.
She sounds like me if I was joining the black Israelites and I should say, okay, I should talk about black power.
I should put my fist in the air.
Like it's someone learning how to do something they're not.
Right.
I think we have a case here of certain people just not being suited to certain jobs.
And usually that would be fine.
But because of, you know, the PC status quo, oh, have to have at least this many women and gays.
We feel like we have to kind of shove people into these roles that they may not be suited for, A and B, may not even want to go in.
So someone like that who's soft-spoken, doesn't want to insert herself into any conflict, whatever.
I mean, you can be a stay-at-home mom or even find another job, whatever it be, be a teacher.
You don't have to be in the cutthroat world of business to feel like you're making a difference.
Yeah, it's like fat guys.
They rarely are backup dancers in music videos.
You can get them an app, you can teach them the moves, but they'd look silly up there.
And we should stop pretending that they belong in a Jenna Jackson video.
They're short, fat, bald, white guys, like George Costanza, shouldn't be there in little tights dancing around.
And if that means that there's less women in the workforce, ooh, I'm scared.
Right, and I think women who are trying to force all these initiatives, I think they have to realize they're not making it more appealing to hire women, right?
To think like, oh, I have to give, I have to remind Janet or whoever it is.
She can speak.
Now, everyone be quiet.
We have to remind her, make sure she feels safe.
Like, no one's going to want to hire women if they think we're all babies like that.
True.
And we got to wrap it up here shortly, but this whole concept of sex and making, like, I have a friend who was writing for TV and the director hit on her and she said, not interested.
And then he fired her.
And I said, well, I want to go close his throat.
Let me go stab him.
And she goes, no, I don't want the trouble.
I'll be banished forever.
And I go, look, we had 620,000 men die in the Civil War.
You can't change your career.
Or with Louis C.K., I saw all these feminists say, you know, I was told to delete a tweet before an interview on a comedy gig because it might offend Louis C.K. And you're like, you can't even tweet?
Like, you can't even have a rude tweet.
You're not part of this.
There's a fighting world.
If some guy grabbed my ass and said, let me touch your dick or you're fired, I'd go, well, then I'm fired and we're fighting.
Like, I wouldn't stand for it.
Imagine you just like going up to some fat CEO and just, oh, well, it's insane.
It's prostitution.
Right.
And it's, again, it's awful that this is even happening, but at the same time, I don't think the right answer is to encourage women to be complacent, right?
It's like, oh, it's awful that it happened.
There was nothing you could have done but sit there and take it.
Like, no, fight back.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Call the cops, punch them in the face.
Don't lie underneath them and don't keep it secret.
Obviously.
No, you keep it secret for like 20 years and then you come out.
That's what you do.
That's what they do.
And put it in a social media post where we can all guess what happened.
Roming, thanks for coming on the show and please don't report me to HR.
For sure.
Thanks for having me.
Bye.
I did.
It's fallin'down, you're the hell of a mess of you.
Look at this.
This is a wonderful example of the government, what they do with your money.
You know, they say if you can't do, teach.
Well, if you can't, business, government.
And watching the free market in the government is just a beautiful example of what they do with your money.
And these liberals keep saying, we need more redistribution.
We need higher taxes.
We need more regulation.
Okay, let's see what they do with my money.
This is an important press conference.
They need an interpreter.
Let's see who the government hires to interpret.
Stretching.
Obviously, you got to stretch out your hands.
Shake it out.
Shake it out, Vera.
We've taken an arrest in the Seminole Heights murders.
Okay.
Our detectives are currently working on the charging documents.
We will be charging.
Did you see that?
Watch her hands.
She just keeps repeating the same ones.
Four counts.
Okay.
A lot of them were invented signs, and I wasn't able to understand what she was saying.
Oh, my God.
The mother of one of the victims.
I'm sorry to laugh.
There.
And the interpreter was signing in a way that...
That's a silly character coming up with a bizarre idea that's not remotely true.
In the government, that's perfectly normal.
Yeah, we allowed someone to sign language who figured they could just guess and go like this and that for a rest.
Yeah, you can't make up sign language, you morons.
You can't guess Japanese.
Let's trust in ourselves again, okay?
Let's stop trusting the state.
Let's stop trusting Netflix.
Let's stop letting these phones run our lives.
We're better at running our lives than anyone else.
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