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Dec. 11, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Get Off My Lawn #44 | Promised Land
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Oh, live from New York.
It's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
Ah.
Okay.
That was fing Noel Gallagher.
I'm trying to do a Mank, a Manchester accent, but that's tough.
Liverpool.
Liverpool is what?
An hour from Manchester?
Totally different accents.
Really tough to do.
That song is called Holy Mountain from the album High Flying Birds.
Now, you know Noel Gallagher, right?
He's like the less aggressive of the brothers.
Liam Gallagher was the singer of Oasis.
Noel Gallagher was the co-singer guy, but Liam was the front man.
They don't get along, those brothers.
You want to a trip?
Rick Shapiro, my man with the onion rings, he has a twin brother who's in perfect health.
I believe his name is Rob Shapiro.
Twin, identical twin.
So I went into the old Compound Media Cumiya studio the other day, and I see Rick Shapiro saying, hey, how's it going?
I'm in perfect health.
I don't have Parkinson's no more.
It was the weirdest thing.
They don't get along either.
It's weird not to get along with your brother.
I love my brother, and I can't wait to see him at Christmas, get drunk with him.
But this song that I just played, the opening song, they say it's a rip-off of Shebang, she bang.
Tell me what you think, okay?
Ready?
This is Noel's song.
This is Noel's song.
It's a good jam.
It's weird to be able to make a hit that late in your career.
So you'd heard the chorus was, she fell, she fell, right under my spell.
Let's hear Rick.
No.
Are you dumb?
I've been saying dumb too much on this show.
I don't like that word.
Just because it says she something, she something doesn't mean you ripped off the song.
The songs are not remotely similar.
It makes me worried about people who think that.
Do they not have ear holes?
But you know what's funny about Noel Gallagher?
So there's a campaign out now to support this album, High Flying Birds, right?
And someone notices when they're watching TV that it says, High Flying Birds, Who Built the Moon out now.
I don't know, is the song High Flying Birds?
Anyway, who cares?
So they have this ad for it.
And as they're showing clips, probably from the song you just heard, they have a quote from the sun with one, two, three, four and a half stars.
Perhaps his best ever.
I don't know about perhaps in a review.
So that's a good one.
And then Enemy, the new Musical Express, I used to write for them.
They call it Noel's best album since Morning Glory, going over the Oasis days.
And then A Dried Up Oasis of Dross, one star from the Irish Times.
Sometimes I worry about the Irish too, speaking of people who don't seem to have their heads screwed on right.
An oasis can't be dried up.
And dross means garbage, crap.
So if it's a dried up oasis of crap, that's two negatives.
Dried up crap, so not good crap, so it's good, then it is an oasis.
Front page of the post, promised land.
Trump has recognized Jerusalem.
Why do liberals care?
Jerusalem is in Israel.
Tel Aviv is in Israel.
They're moving the embassies over to Jerusalem.
Well, it's going to make Palestinians mad.
Yeah, I don't think you can make Palestinians unmad.
In fact, if a Palestinian leader ever negotiated any kind of peace deal over at Camp David, he would be murdered the second he got home.
So they're not looking for peace.
And the idea that you don't validate Jerusalem.
Well, the international community doesn't.
FTW is the relevant acronym there.
The United Nations, all this international community, do you think that they're smart, astute, helpful people?
No, they're socialists from Europe and then backward, vindictive despots from the third world, and then immoral Middle Easterners.
And then, of course, Russian communist, Chinese communist, international community.
To them.
Check this out.
This is one of the grossest things.
I don't even know if we can show this, but a bunch of gays have a group called FCK Hate.
And what they do is they make children dance around and carry out their political agenda, and then make these young girls swear and describe their genitalia.
So this is not safe for work, but it's all over the world wide web right now.
They're wearing the hats, by the way.
The hats that come from an inside joke Trump said to someone on a bus.
A joke that involved they let you.
But no, Trump's policy now is to rape children according to this propaganda.
Oh, scouts!
Oh, scouts!
Ready for your son about President Trump!
Yay!
Ready, bee, choppin' to feet, that's it.
We wanna rap about a brother who's sexist We call women fat pins, so no respect Try to grab my pussy, you're gonna get wrecked Cut!
You hear that?
So now Trump wants to grab a child's genitalium.
By the way, he called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig.
She is.
She is a fat pig.
You can't just say that he calls all women fat pigs.
Yeah, and you're not allowed to tell Me, I can't use the term fat pig.
What about when it's relevant?
What about when it's relevant?
The woman's march showed you women's mouths can't be shut.
The woman's march showed you that women's mouths don't know what they're talking about.
Super jealous oldster racist sexist got my partner.
Anyway, you know where that's going.
Unbelievable.
So yeah, Promised Land is the front cover, and I've done you the courtesy this time of finding some post-it notes.
I've got post-it notes on it now.
This is what I don't get, too.
Like, liberals are so mad that he's discovered Jerusalem and he's recognizing Jerusalem.
You go to the Nativity church where Jesus was born.
I was just in Israel.
All Muslims, call to prayer everywhere.
Muslims have completely taken over that area.
That's okay.
But Jews can't be in Israel?
I don't, it's just, there's no logic here.
It's just vindictiveness.
And they started out hating white males, and now they hate Israelis because Israelis are white males.
It's so, it's just sick.
Oh, here's some good gossip.
Corey Feldman.
Corey is vindicated.
Remember he said back in, I think, 91 that he sat down with cops and he named names of the people that have molested him?
I heard rumors Rob Reiner was one of them.
This is just a rumor.
I'm not saying this is a fact.
Rosie O'Donnell, I think, is...
Yeah, Roseanne Barr.
Sorry, Rosie.
Roseanne.
Check out Rob Reiner, she'd said, when people were talking about how uncomfortable he seemed when Carl Reiner was making pedophile jokes.
You know, if it's true, and he molested Corey Haim, and that's why Corey Haim killed himself, don't you have a murder on your hands?
But anyway, I think this evidence is, the statute of limitations has run out.
So, all right, this is something I wanted to talk about.
So we still have Los Angeles engulfed in flames.
And I think it's relevant to bring in yesterday's episode.
I was talking to Carrie, the editor of Tri-Light Livestock News.
And, you know, it's not like ranchers were dying to use that land per se.
But this is what happened when land just sits there and rots.
It becomes a gigantic fire hazard.
And the Hammonds, who were in Oregon, are serving a five-year prison sentence because one of their brush fires went a little bit on to public land.
Meanwhile, the federal burns, they do it too, will often go on to private land.
And they never have to pay a fine to these ranchers, even though they're denying the ranchers the grass they need for their cattle to live.
Did you know that in Oregon last year, they spent $2 billion fighting these forest fires because they don't know how to manage the land because they're not ranchers, because they're bureaucrats.
So when you hear he's giving up the monuments and oh, there's Indians in Bear's Ears who are going to lose their sacred land, the Indians in Bear's Ears are thrilled to get the land back to them.
They didn't own it before.
When it's a federal preserve, the federal government calls the shots.
So the Navajo over there in Bear's Ears are thrilled with this.
It's like, Carrie gave me a great analogy.
She goes, Central Park is a public park.
You can't build on it, right?
Now, imagine the federal government on top of that bought Central Park, took over Central Park, and then they started saying, you can't use it here, you can't use it there.
I don't want ugly people on it.
No racists are allowed.
No conservatives, blah, blah, blah, whatever rules they make up.
And then you'd go, well, this isn't our park anymore.
The government took it.
Now, when they give it back to you, it's still a park.
You still can't turn it into a giant 7-Eleven or a parking lot, but you just get it back.
The people get it back.
It's still protected by the government.
What do we got today?
Did I lose my little piece of paper?
I'm not very well organized, am I?
Yeah, no, I got it here.
So we have a lot to get to today.
Roaming Millennial got pushed out, I'm afraid, because I got Antonia Okefour.
We'll have roaming on Monday.
She's a bit of an evergreen interview, what we talked about.
We talked about women in the workforce.
But Antonia is relevant today because she's speaking at Harvard soon.
She's speaking at, I think, I forget what college she's speaking at tonight, but last night she was banned from Hampshire College two hours before her talk because she was doing a talk called Women in the Second Amendment, and they decided at the 11th hour that that was going to be offensive.
So they banned her.
Remember, Hampshire College is the home of Trigglypuff.
And I want to spend time with those kind of social justice warriors on today's show because I got a bunch of that.
Miles McInnes, my idiot liberal brother, is going to be threatening Terry Shapert, the Green Beret, with a bunch of social justice warrior stuff.
We also have pics with Gavin Watson, again, a little art to alleviate the tension.
And I'm going to talk about fat women in Times Square, literally in Times Square.
But before we get to any of that, let's just roam the streets.
My buddy Steve, Stephen McCarthy, is going to roam the streets of NYU and ask people, does hate speech include free speech?
Meaning, if you're pro free speech, does it have any limits?
Can you say hateful things?
Let's find out.
Do you think there's a difference between hate speech and free speech?
Hate speech and free speech?
I don't even know how to answer that question.
Do you know what hate speech is?
No idea.
If your free speech is causing another person's lives to be in danger and to be detrimental to the way of life that they're living, squash that.
White people always be kissing dogs.
Is that hate speech or free speech?
I wouldn't say that hate speech is a weird comment, but I feel like, I guess that would be somebody's observation, but I don't feel like it would cause anybody to take any action.
Sweden is the rape capital of Europe.
I don't know if that's true.
I mean, it might be free speech.
Milo?
Okay, so I would say that, you know, because it's my university, I don't really promote his style of taking on certain ideas.
So if I would say, like, I wouldn't support that, although I don't think that applies across the board to everybody.
Yeah, let's say it's not Milo.
Let's say it's somebody else, just, you know, somebody, whoever, but for whatever reason, there's a group of people that find them controversial.
Should they be allowed to speak?
I think controversial people should be allowed to speak, yeah.
Do you think there's a difference between hate speech and free speech?
Oh my god, I didn't prepare.
I didn't stretch.
I didn't study.
Should it be illegal to be racist?
It's illegal now.
There's a problem with that because most people are kind of racist.
Some hate speech is protected, but if it's like what happened in Charlottesville, that type of hate speech, which is likely to intensify violence, then should not be protected.
Should hate speech be illegal.
Um, not if you think, oh, fuck.
It's just, there's, I can't, I can't.
It's just so hard.
I was just gonna say, if you don't have, um, if you don't have, like, anything to back you up, then yeah, it should be.
So you should, it should be, like, it should be illegal to, like, make a mistake?
But then, like, obviously, no.
Right.
Science wouldn't exist.
Okay, cool.
Oh, hi, I'm Terry Shappard.
Ooh, I'm a Green Beret.
Oh, I'm in SEAL Team 6.
Oh, look at me with my automatic machine gun 30 odd 6.
I'm such a badass with my cigar.
Look at this guy.
Look how tough he thinks he is.
He thinks he's brave because he carries a pack and he's in the special forces and they shoot guns hiding behind their flakjacks.
That's not brave to ride in a dinghy boat.
You know what bravery is?
This is brave.
Check this out.
Watch this guy.
See him?
That's bravery.
He's in a wheelchair.
Name one military guy who gets in a wheelchair and knows how to get on with life and still rock it and be fierce.
Special Fierces, they beat Special Forces.
Look at this guy in his peach top.
I don't see a Marine having the courage to wear a gold skirt like that.
Look at this.
This is more woman than you'll ever get and more man than you'll ever be.
Or check out this dude.
This is real bravery.
This is a bravery the military will never know.
Look at this beautiful bridesmaid with his big huge beard.
He's going to the wedding and making it about him and making it about facing the music.
That's the problem with a lot of people in the military is they talk a big game, but they're always hiding.
They're always hiding behind their uniforms.
They're never being truly and utterly brave and doing something that no one's done before by themselves.
You'll notice they always talk about their brothers.
That's because they're always hiding in their little gang, their little entourage.
Look at this Dexter Mayfield.
He comes out there, first African-American plus-size male model to get on the runway and just be fierce.
Look at him go and he's doing the chunky thing where you're sort of like a horse.
And then he gets, the music's pounding and everyone's cheering.
You don't get that many people cheering.
You know what they did after Vietnam?
They spat on the troops.
That's because they were baby murderers.
This guy didn't murder anybody.
All he did was murder the beat.
Oh my God, look at his boobs.
And then he jiggles around and he does a sexy dance and then he walks and he skips out.
There's a reason I'm showing you all of this, Terry Shappert, and all Marines and everyone in the military.
Your days are over.
We're coming for you.
Check out what we've got.
We don't have guns.
We don't have flak jackets.
We have baseball bats, okay?
There's a baseball bat.
There's a baseball bat.
That chick's got her jacket, wrap it around your head.
There's so many different things about to happen to you.
And one of my close friends, a British guy named Kevin, summed it up beautifully.
And I'm going to let him take it from here.
Kevin, why don't you explain to Terry and his military buddies what's going to happen to the Trump supporters when we come for them?
If you are in any way a fan of the Trump administration, it's to start undermining it.
And start undermining it.
Fast.
Become very vocal about how you are undermining it.
Because when the end of the Trump administration comes, you want to say that you were an ally who helped destroy the Trump administration.
Because God help you if you are found to be one of those people who backed the Trump administration when the left comes to you.
Because the left will come to you one way or the other.
Everyone that says that they support Trump or everyone that's in the military and all Garim Beres, I want you to know you better become an ally now or you're dead meet.
Terry, are you there, sir?
I am, sir, indeed.
Now, my liberal brother, Miles McInnes, was calling you out recently talking about real bravery, which is wearing a dress to a wedding and carrying baseball bats.
And we had a guy on the show the other day.
He went up to Antifa at this book thing for the Anarchist Handbook.
And he said, hey, man, I want to talk.
Let's work it out.
And they started punching him from behind, mauling him.
His eyes are completely sealed up.
It was like 15 people, lots of girls, too, in the front lines.
And you go, I'm dealing with a crazy ex-girlfriend.
The left has become the crazy ex-girlfriend.
They're not just crazy ex-girlfriends.
They're crazy ex-girlfriends who have forgotten to take their meds and or are maybe doing some kind of hallucinogenics because I'm just like, yes, and by the way, I saw Miles.
I saw what he was doing.
He's just trying to bait me.
And I'm just, you know, I'm not going to take the bait, man.
I'm not going to say that you're not brave as a man for wearing a dress to a wedding.
Good on you.
Because we in the military, we're kind of a bunch of pussies, as you know.
Well, wait, I have a new mug here, Gavin.
I'm going to get you one.
You can't see it.
It's a picture of some dude in the 1800s, and underneath it says wanker.
You're getting one.
You're fing getting a wicker mug.
I'll send you one of these.
The Gavin McInnis.
Dude, could you send me one of those?
Yes, coming up.
Oh, yes.
By the way, I'm going to be up there December 20th.
Our friends at Fox, Gavin, Greg Gutfeld, are going to bring me up, and I'd love to come on and fart in your studio.
That's cool.
That would be wonderful.
But to get back to the matter at hand here, one of the pictures, they were all carrying these baseball bats, right?
And I'm looking at them going, you guys don't know anything about violence.
Getting hit in the head with a baseball bat, first of all, can kill you.
Now you're looking at 20 years.
You're going to sever a facial artery, and they're going to have life-changing injuries.
Life-changing injuries.
Life-changing injuries.
Like, fighting sucks, ladies.
And you have fragile bones.
You have no upper body strength.
Stop picking fights.
You're going to get destroyed.
Well, because I think the whole thing with Antifa, I said this a long time ago.
What Antifa really is, are a group of live-action role players.
And that's really how they look at it.
If you look at the way they dress, it's a costume.
It's a costume that they have sort of pieced together from various comic books, movies, TV shows.
And then it becomes this sort of groupthink thing.
So they're wearing, you know, the girls are wearing black fishnet hose with biker boots and, you know, fists.
But they really don't.
Here's the thing with Antifung.
God bless.
Bless their hearts, Gavin.
I think, you know, do they really want to f ⁇ with us?
I mean, that's a fight they're not going to win.
And, you know, it's, first of all, the violent part, you're not going to win it.
If it comes to that, you're going to lose.
And the second thing is, if you're that sure about what you believe, okay, and I think a lot of them may be that you should be able to defend it intellectually and with some confidence.
And this is why, you know, they don't do that.
This is why they shut down colleges and they egg people.
They intimidate people.
They're violence.
But I tell you what, man, you keep poking the bear is what I would say to them.
And it's going to end up very badly for them.
It really is.
And the way they vilify not just America, but themselves.
They hate themselves.
They're ethno-masochists.
Well, you and I have spoken about this a lot.
And it's almost like the way of things.
It was going to come to this because Western civilization, which I've talked about on your show, which I can say with veracity that it's the blending of the Catholic Church with Greek thought.
They pushed it into Europe.
They killed all of our ancestors, Gavin, which we should thank them for because now we're using computers and driving cars.
So thank you, Romans, for fucking with the Germanic tribes that my family was.
But that Western civilization has been the greatest, you know, and it's not perfect.
No human institution is.
But it was always Western civilization, by its nature, sows its own seeds of destruction by its liberality, which is good, by its tolerance, which is good.
But then it becomes like, just, that's a great thing, an ethnomasochist.
It's self-hating.
Just look at Europe, man.
Look at Germany, what they're doing.
Look at all those France.
These are powers.
These are world powers that have no confidence in the legacy that they have inherited.
And it's going to get taken from them.
And they have this strange admiration for the government.
Like, they see the Bundies and the ranchers as bad guys, real heroes who want to stand up to the federal government, or military guys who go in there and are willing to die for their job.
They don't ask what the war is.
It's not up to them.
They just go.
Yeah, not my call.
So those guys are jerks and losers.
And then they turn to the government and they go, what do you got, government?
Help me out here.
Regulate Wall Street more.
Regulate ranchers more.
Regulate my life more.
And, you know, here's the thing is that, you know, they're always talking about oppression and bullies and stuff like that.
Has there ever been in the United States history a bigger bully than the U.S. government?
It's the biggest bully we have ever contended with.
Look what the IRS did.
Look what the FBI and the DOJ are doing right now.
They have the power to make your life miserable and they're happy to do it if you go against them.
And, you know, it's so funny because they're talking about fight the power, yet wasn't that, there was an old commercial a while ago.
It was funny as hell.
Some executive comes in and he's doing something and they're like, why are you doing that?
And he goes, well, it's my way of fighting the man.
And the one kid goes, well, sir, you are the man.
You know what I mean?
So they actually don't realize.
One of the big problems I think they have is maybe they don't read books.
They really don't read books.
They don't read history and they haven't really pieced it together.
It's the history.
I think Will Cow calls it the history of now.
And they don't really, they put nothing in context, nothing in context.
It's just, and here's another thing too.
The reason they're protesting is because they have nothing to protest.
And this is the most, you can, you're going to eat here.
You're not going to get killed by lions here.
You're probably not going to be the victim of some sort of a coup or a tribal grievance.
You're safe here.
And I think it kind of mimics the 60s.
They look back at the 60s and they go, man, I wish we were part of something so important, which the 60s were bullshit.
And, you know, they had nothing to protest then either.
And so they just want to be part of something big.
That's where the LARP thing.
That's where the live action role player comes in.
It's like they're part of something bigger because really they have no struggles.
Not really.
Not really.
And if they don't have struggles, they try to put, that's why all these white people are saying, I mean, white people are saying white people should die.
Okay, let's start with you.
Yeah.
So ethnobasochist, I think that's great.
Cultural masochist.
It is cultural suicide.
And I'll tell you what, if you bring it, the alternative to what we have right now in the U.S. is infinitely worse because I've seen it.
Inevitably, they replace it with something worse.
Terry, thanks for coming on the show and updating us.
And let's meet in person when you're here in December.
Later on.
All right, brother.
I'll find out when I get some travel stuff.
I'll come in and we will do drugs and fart and be inappropriate.
Nice.
I didn't say that.
Nice top three priorities.
Maybe some gay sex, Gavin?
Come on.
You're not coming in that well.
We're having a connection problem.
It's my little way of sticking it to the man.
But you are the man.
I know.
So you're sticking it to yourself?
Maybe.
Look at these punks.
Look at these punks.
Is that you with the Fred Perry?
No, no, that's the Wick and Marsh Punks.
They just used to hang around the old tyre factory.
That's so quintessentially British.
The Wickham Marsh Punks used to hang about the old tyre factory.
What about these geezers?
My best friend at the time, Simon, is sort of really rejoined at the hit.
Yeah, that's just going down the octagon and just hanging out, and I'd have my camera with me.
And yeah, they're just old school friends, basically.
I think that was just after school or in the summer holidays.
That's fun.
What about this?
How did you get a motorbike?
Oh, Simon, his uncle worked at the Kawasaki shop.
And so he had motorbikes quite early on.
I was no good at making too much of a coward.
I love how there's no helmets here.
Is that the Tyre Factory Punks again?
Yeah, that's Aspo.
I can't remember the other two guys' names.
Aspo went bald very early, but we all thought it was because he dyed his hair all the time.
Now, Aspo...
You were anti-social.
What was it?
What was the acronym?
It's like antisocial behavior disorder or something.
And those people got welfare for life because they were considered incompatible with society.
No, y'all didn't know about that one.
Yeah, I remember the skinheads who would get made in England and stuff tattooed on their face.
I heard they would get that so they could get the ASPO thing because you're clinically insane if you do that.
And then these poor bastards all end up dying.
Well, they were, they were.
Yeah, they were.
It was inaccurate.
Hey guys, I want to make something crystal clear here.
There is this misunderstanding in Western culture and American culture that fat is not beautiful, that big isn't beautiful.
Wrong.
I think the reason you think that is because it's the way it's presented.
You see some fat lady at Walmart and you go, that's not sexy.
All we have to do is slightly change the context.
Maybe add glitter.
Maybe just photograph them sort of lying somewhere like a grub.
All I have to do is slightly change the context and all of a sudden you realize that fat people are beautiful.
And yeah, they might be dying by overeating and their doctors may object to them and say, what are you doing?
You're not going to make it past 50.
Please get down under 180 pounds or you're shaving decades off your life.
Those doctors are racist, sexist, and homophobic.
At the end of the day, I think it's pretty crystal clear that all you have to do to make dying of obesity beautiful is shine some lights on it and put up different pants.
Put a different shirt on it for crying out loud.
Just wear a different shirt and put on tons of makeup, and all of a sudden you're not fat.
Remember Trigglypuff?
She looks like something out of monster's ink and she was very mad at Milo or Ben Shapiro or someone.
She became famous.
She's from Hampshire College.
Hampshire College is in Massachusetts.
It's near UMass.
It's the opposite of UMass and it is just people like her.
You know, you get a dolphin in mass.
You have to take multiculturalist perspectives, no matter what your major is.
You have to take creative writing.
Welding is a mandatory class.
I'm not lying.
30 hours volunteer work.
This is all part of Hampshire College.
These are the guys, by the way, who after Trump was elected, they put the flag at half mast.
Then they burned the flag.
A bunch of veterans complained, so they said, okay, okay, we'll just put it up at half mast.
The administration put it up at half mast.
Anyway, these nuts, these lunatics at the stupidest school ever, it's just for slackers.
You can't not get a degree from Hampshire College.
You just have to exist.
These lunatics book Antonio Okefour to do a talk about women empowerment and the Second Amendment.
They are so far left that they assumed, because she's black, that she would be talking about how evil the Second Amendment is and how racist rednecks are and how guns are evil.
So hours before, I guess they tune into her Twitter page and see that she actually likes guns, so they cancel it.
And all she's trying to say is, you guys deserve this right.
If you don't think you deserve this right, then don't take it.
It's like someone offers me cake and says you have the right to cake.
I'm not going to go, I don't want to hear it.
But it's more of this.
It's more of handing our wrists over to the authorities and say, cuff me, I don't deserve it.
Let's talk to her now.
Antonia, are you there?
I am here.
And here is Massachusetts.
I am in Massachusetts.
Yes, Western Massachusetts, which is different from Boston, apparently.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I hear, too.
And I hear Hampshire College is different than UMass because it's more of a hippy-dippy school.
Hampster College, they call it.
Hamster College.
Yes, Hampster College, Truly Puff College.
I don't know.
Hours before you were meant to speak at Hamster College, you were told it's canceled.
I was.
Two hours, to be exact.
I was literally about to turning off the news in my hotel room, about to head out, get a text that, hey, the dean canceled your speech.
And I thought she was joking at first because, like, there's no way.
It's two hours before, no way.
But yeah, completely real.
And it's been flabbergasting what's happened since then.
But yeah, they canceled it.
What reason did they give you?
So the student that hosted me, Krahim, he's a student here at Hampshire College.
And he got an email like maybe an hour before saying that it was canceled.
He didn't really get a reason, really, other than saying that my topic, the subject of my speech, the Second Amendment, and this is what they said in the email, was quote, very controversial.
Very controversial.
So he went over there.
He was like, I'm not just going to accept an email.
I'm going to go over there.
So he went over there.
He spoke with the administrators.
They were alert.
When he went over there, he told me that you could just see them like on the couch, just like getting emails and phone calls and all this stuff from professors and students that they said and from media.
And they said, look, we're going to have to cancel.
And the funny part too is that he, as a Hampshire student, was like, look, I really feel, you know, as a Hampshire student, I have a feeling that it's better you just let her speak because you're going to get a lot more blowback.
Right.
And they refuse.
They didn't heed his warning.
So he's like, okay.
And here we are.
But these schools, they always okay it at the beginning.
They let everyone buy the plane tickets and everything.
And then at the 11th hour, they always chicken out.
I don't understand.
Like, say no at the beginning and don't waste your time.
And that's the thing.
And the thing is, Hampshire College didn't pay a cent for any of this.
I'm doing this campus tour and I talked to you about it.
This is sponsored by the Leadership Institute.
And it's because I want, it's important for me for students to be able to hear this message, especially in places like Massachusetts and New York and California, the places that don't want any type of gun rights legislation passed, especially on campus.
So yeah, they basically wasted my time.
Thankfully, hopefully Mount Holyoke is supposed to happen, which is in the neighborhood.
And we're supposed to have a bigger turnout because all the Hampshire students and the people who wanted to hear me speak at Hampshire, who drove from out of town to hear me speak, they stayed in town so they can hear me speak tonight.
So let's hear his hoping.
Yeah, I hope so.
Well, here's the thing, though.
I don't see you as political.
I don't see you as very political.
I don't see you as controversial.
Like, I understand, say you're an Israeli speaker and you're pro the wall, or you're an anti-immigration speaker and you want the border shut down.
I understand those kind of people drawing this big controversy.
But your gamut is I want you kids to have the right to be armed.
You don't have to have a gun, but I want you to have that right.
And then the students say, how dare you?
I don't want to have that right.
Even though we've got armed guards like Nick Thompson and Kyle Harris, who stopped that shooting in Oregon in 2014.
We've got that high school in Colorado, Apapo, Apahoe, Arapaho.
That was an armed guard who stopped that shooting.
So you have murderers attracted to your school that are gun-free zones.
You told me, not you, but the students told us that they're getting raped to the tune of one and four.
So this woman is suggesting that you're armed and you say, don't suggest that I have a right.
Oh, no.
And so Mount Holyoke, that's what I thought I was going to get the most backlash from Mount Holyoke because they have a alternative event that's taking place at the same time my speech is taking place from the Get This Criminal Justice Coalition group, which I don't know why they're going to protest something that has nothing to do with, you know, having to do with the system of environments.
But basically, they're having a whole event saying that they wanted something separate because they don't want to protest and then amplify my alt-right message is what they told me.
They're going to talk about the separate issues and they changed the, instead of saying women in empowerment and the Second Amendment, which is my title of my speech, they changed it to women empowerment and violence in all caps.
Okay.
Amendment really actually equals violence.
And so they're going to talk about that.
It's all female group.
But that's the whole point is that I'm talking about that.
I'm talking about, okay, if I'm going to talk about rape culture, you guys bring this up all the time.
And that's my whole premise is if one in four is really, really true, one in five or whatever.
For me, if it's just one person, that's too much.
And I really believe in that.
I believe in protecting sexual assault victims and preventing them from happening.
But why wouldn't you then let a female who is, by science, is physically weaker than a male?
Why wouldn't you allow her to have the greatest equalizer, the greatest tool to be able to defend herself in that situation?
And I think that's where the hypocrisy comes from.
We're talking about, we have this hashtag hashtag me to movement.
We had Time magazine making it person of the year or movement of the year.
But yet we just stop there.
We don't talk about how we can prevent that from happening or at least how we can keep that from other people from having to deal with that in the future, particularly on college campuses.
It's hypocritical.
It boggles the mind.
I mean, this has been a theme all week.
We've been talking to people, and this is this pattern with the left where they put their wrists up and they say to the authorities, handcuff me.
Don't give me any rights.
And they're fighting for not having rights.
It's a bizarre thing.
They can't even hear about it.
And that's why I'm here in Massachusetts too, because in addition to being very anti-gun, they're also, they don't allow students to have pepper spray.
Two years ago, they banned pepper spray.
Why?
I want to know why too.
And I'm going to ask the students that question.
Another fact that I found out being here is that Smith College is another all-girl college, Mount Holyoke, and Hampshire, they all share the same police.
And none of the police, Cambridge police, get this, are armed.
They're not allowed to be armed.
They told us, don't worry at our speech, though.
We're going to have a guy that is not uniformed and he's not going to have a gun, but he's going to be there.
But he's in Georgia.
I am protected.
I am protected by Mount Holyoke.
I can't wait.
And then they have two people on call who also don't have firearms, but at least they're on call.
And they just might come and join me when I'm getting attacked Or something.
I don't know what's going to happen.
So I probably have more moves than they do, probably.
I have a feeling I've trained with actual Navy SEALs.
Dynamist Alliance helped train me with combatives and blade training and hand-to-hand self-defense tactics a couple weeks ago.
So thank you, Dom Rosso.
But it's kind of interesting that I'm going to put my life in their own hands.
Which is the whole point of your talk is to not be in that situation.
Are you armed?
Are you not armed?
Can you not have your concealed carry?
No, they definitely told me that, well, I already knew that, but they definitely made sure they're like, look, we just want to make sure you remember that you can't have firearms.
And you're staying at the hotel at the college.
You can't have any firearms.
So, no, at this point, I'm not protected.
And that's the thing.
Well, that's the problem.
It's guns.
It's guns are the problem.
And thank, God bless that illegal alien in San Francisco who found one of those evil guns and it was shooting off everywhere.
And he threw it away into the bay where it wouldn't hurt anyone anymore.
We need to get rid of all the guns and they'll stop killing people.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's a travesty.
And, you know, I'm speaking in California for the whole month of March.
I'll be speaking at Berkeley as well.
So that's going to be an interesting one.
And I think they're hungry for that message, the hypocrisy on the anti-gun left, where you can't protect yourself.
No one else can protect themselves.
And then those felons, those who actually are using guns illegally, they're not prosecuted when they need to be.
So it's a travesty, and that's why I need to continue to talk.
You work in a loony bin.
You are on the mentally ill tour of college campuses.
My heart goes out to you.
Thank you so much for enduring their lunacy and just trying to tell them that the Constitution is not controversial.
I know.
Well, I'm speaking at Harvard University tomorrow as well, unless they cancel it.
So wish me luck there, too.
Best of luck telling the truth.
That's become a controversial thing.
Thank you so much for coming on the show, Antonia.
Thank you, Gavin, for having me.
Talk to you later.
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