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	Oh, I'm from New York.
	Get off my lawn in seven minutes.
	I want to say to you, but whenever I approach you...
	There's the Jam in the City, 1977.
	A 40-year-old song.
	Paul Weller invented mods.
	And that was their first big hit.
	And he's on tour now.
	He's never going to reunite the jam.
	New York Post, Harry met a hot black girl who looks white.
	And they're going to get married.
	And that's going to be great.
	I just got a call from Salon.
	They're doing a hit piece on me and Proud Boys.
	And they're still trying to prove that we're racist.
	And they've combed through 600 hours.
	I literally did 610 hours of that show.
	And they found some contentious verbiage, some racial epithets and such.
	And they're not happy about it.
	So you get with those kind of things.
	Do you go through each one and defend yourself?
	I don't know.
	It's so pedantic.
	It's so tedious battling the lefty narrative.
	I love this mug, though.
	What's in the news?
	Keith Oberman has left us.
	He hasn't left us.
	He's not dead, but you know what happened here.
	Whenever you see Keith Oberman and said he's had enough, what he means is he was fired because he's impossible to work with because he is Captain Bringdown.
	He's that guy at the party who always has a problem with someone there or something that was said or the hors d'oeuvres.
	Just look at this, his goodbye.
	Anywhere in it is great.
	And so this series is over.
	This was intended as something temporary, a two-month project by somebody who had given up politics.
	This is 10 minutes ago.
	And then it became 187 commentaries and around 225,000 words and something approaching 400 million views.
	And I am proud of it and I repudiate none of it.
	And it has been my privilege to do it.
	Yeah, that's enough.
	I just said I'd done 600 hours and should I repudiate?
	And then he said the same thing.
	Am I the Keith Oberman of the right?
	And on the show today, we got Red Pill Black.
	We got me talking about the Woman's March for a long ass time.
	And then I got a heart surgeon on to talk about heart surgery because I think it's probably pretty easy.
	And then, of course, a bunch of white liberals literally kissing black Israelites' boots.
	Hello, Candace Owens.
	Hello, Gavin McGinnis.
	How are you?
	Great.
	You got nice furniture.
	Very classy.
	Thank you.
	I try to keep it classy.
	Now, this is probably a racist thing to say right after that, but did you grow up in a white neighborhood?
	I did not, actually.
	That's a common misconception.
	Everyone thinks I grew up super rich, but I grew up, me and my two sisters shared a bedroom.
	We were in the projects, and yeah.
	Well, another reason besides the fancy designer furniture that I thought that, and it's very Ralph Loren with the little rustic touches, is your backstory.
	Now, the backstory that came up on the Dave Rubin thing, and everyone knows it who knows you, is that you got one of the most alarming, threatening phone messages a human black person can get that talked about lynching and murdering and Martin Luther King.
	And it sounded like a hate crime hoax, actually, when you hear the content.
	It's a little over the top.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	And that was all rich white people.
	That was the governor's son.
	And I thought, oh, so maybe she was the only black girl at school and they didn't.
	Yeah, it ended up being the governor, the current governor of Connecticut's sun, which kind of blew a situation that was out of proportion.
	Like, personally, me, I think that the adults handled the situation wrong.
	And if that was my kid, I wouldn't be playing politics.
	I would have marched my kid down to make him apologize, to own up to it.
	But like a true politician, he tried to get away with it, which just led it into this whole huge investigation that never really needed to be.
	Again, his son was really young, so I don't even like the fact that they were calling him racist.
	It became more about politics versus the NAACP and not the kids that were involved, in my personal opinion.
	And how did they know you?
	Did you guys go to the same school?
	No.
	So there was four kids on the voicemails.
	I only knew one of them.
	The other three I had never even seen in my life.
	It's a story of I had my first beer.
	One of the kids in the car was upset because I used to hang out with him all the time.
	And then I got a boyfriend.
	I know it.
	Girls do.
	And I only hung out with my boyfriend, didn't hang out with my friends anymore.
	And he was bitter one night.
	And he was like, let's prank call this chick.
	And I was the chick they prank called.
	But it wasn't really that good of a prank because it was like four violent voices shouting, saying they were going to kill and tar and feather my family.
	So yeah.
	That's kind of the story of high school, isn't it?
	All that vitriol and all that hatred is ex-best friends feeling scorned.
	Yeah, it was very high school.
	I say that all the times.
	I think that people look at sort of these like very hyperbolic elements of it.
	It was race, NAACP, there were politics.
	But at the end of the day, it was just a typical high school story that got blown out of proportion.
	Yeah, they turned you into that girl who needs the police escort to go to school.
	Yeah, and that's why I hate, I've always hated the NAACP.
	Like I have like a personal gripe with them.
	I think that they truly do extort black emotion.
	They didn't speak to me before they showed up at my school with cameras in tow, and they never spoke to me after.
	So I speak out against them all the time, and I've always kind of been like their worst enemy since that situation.
	Okay, so let's go backwards slightly to I had Blair White on the show right after your Dave Rubin fight.
	You and I were hanging out at Restoration Weekend and I felt like a hypocrite because I had only had her side of the story.
	And I just re-watched it right now and we didn't really get into it.
	It was very light and gossipy.
	And she said that the two allegations against you were that you started at a doxing site and that you said, her behind the scenes gossip was you said, I'm not going to call you a man.
	I know you predicted that and that's petty.
	And then as soon as the cameras were on, you called her a man.
	That's literally the exact opposite of what happened.
	I said specifically, I just watched because he put up like a thing that said like, I know what's going to happen.
	Candace is going to call me he.
	I actually went on record on a pre-interview with a girl, blonde tweets, and I said, I don't view Blair as a woman, so I'm going to call him.
	I said it, it was all, it was out.
	So this wasn't breaking news.
	I had said this before the interview.
	I told Dave I was uncomfortable.
	I just personally think there's two genders and Blair has a penis and that he's a man.
	That's not to be insulting.
	Like that's just something that I stand, a platform that I stand on.
	And look, if we were friends and I super respected Blair and I knew that that was something that really meant a lot to him, I would say, okay, like I'm happy to call you a she because I know what you've gone through.
	This is a person that was online trashing me, literally calling me trash, calling me a fraud, calling me a bitch.
	There's no love lost here.
	So don't pretend that I disrespected you by, you know, correctly gendering you.
	You know, that was sort of, and I said it before we rolled.
	I said, I'm going to call you this.
	I don't think it's to throw you off, but I think that maybe Blair just misunderstood.
	I don't know.
	Also, she's lying because she said you sort of went up to her and said, look, I'm going to call you a woman.
	Dave was there.
	I mean, this isn't like a secret.
	It wasn't behind the scenes.
	Dave was sitting in the chair, and I directly said it in front of him, and I said it in front of Blair.
	And then the cameras rolled, and I said, I'm going to address it head on before we start the entire conversation because I don't want people at home to be confused.
	And it's exactly what I said.
	So this was either like Blair, I don't want to say lying or completely misunderstanding because we were about to roll what I said.
	I think lying is a strong word.
	I didn't watch your interview with him, but I mean, Dave Rubin was there.
	So there's really not like there's the truth and then there's the untruths.
	And I said it again on an interview before that I was going to call.
	I think I might be gay because I love gossip so much.
	I love getting into this dish, all the juice.
	It's silly.
	I mean, it's really like, it's so over.
	I'm so like beyond it.
	And to me, it felt like I was kind of like devolving into like high school drama.
	All of it was just, it was so high school.
	And I'm not, I never wanted to be a YouTuber.
	That's not really my purpose here.
	I consider myself a lot more intellectual.
	YouTube was just a place for me to plug my content, right?
	Like I think similarly, like Dave Rubin, like he, he plugs his content on YouTube.
	He's not a YouTuber, right?
	I know what I mean.
	Well, this video you did about Colin Kaepernick, it's not got that many hits on YouTube, but on Facebook, it's got 12 million.
	And it doesn't really matter what the vessel is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So we switched the platform.
	It was something that we kind of thought strategically.
	For some reason, trolling is confined to YouTube and Twitter, it seems like.
	And then there's like the real world where like Facebook seems to be authentic people.
	They have a different platform.
	It's not, you can't really abuse Facebook.
	You can abuse YouTube.
	And as I said, it was all about, for me, just plugging my content.
	So I kind of was growing my Facebook page in the background.
	I want real feedback from real people.
	I don't want high school drama.
	So we just shifted the platform and started uploading the full videos on Facebook, which I had never done before.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Now, allegation two, you were accused of starting a doxing site, but your contention is that, no, it was a place for victims of bullies.
	And then when I saw this could become a doxing site, I shut it down.
	Is that correct?
	Correct.
	That's the end of that controversy.
	That was short and sweet.
	And it was funny because when this controversy came back, this is what was so like off-putting about Blair in general.
	The person who started this whole thing kept saying I was secretly lying and I was going to release the site in three weeks.
	Obviously, now it's been like two months.
	It didn't come out.
	Nobody has owned up and said, okay, sorry.
	You know, we jumped on a lie and perpetuated.
	No one just was a human being.
	But I'm starting to realize that like gossip and drama is kind of how a lot of YouTubers run their lives.
	And it's all about instantly getting on something and then getting off of it and moving on to the next dogpile.
	So it's, you know, it's becoming, it wasn't traditionally a right-wing thing, all this gossip, but with all these younger people involved, we're getting more backstabbing gossip secrets.
	And I love it.
	I love all these juicy stuff.
	You know, it's funny.
	And I, I, like, look, again, I've, I have owned up, I'm not familiar with internet culture whatsoever.
	Like, I didn't even know what doxing, the word doxing meant when social autopsy was started.
	So I, at YouTube, it caught me off guard because there was all of these people that I thought that I like was going to build a bridge with.
	Like, I came in, like, I felt like I was the new girl in school.
	She's a whore.
	She's a liar.
	And I'm like, wow, I thought these were going to be my new friends.
	And like, then I woke up, like, I got smacked in the face.
	And I was like, all right, like, look, I'm not trying to go to YouTube high.
	I will back and go onto Facebook.
	I'm actually here to do something, you know?
	So here just getting good grades sort of a thing.
	I'm not trying to be the most popular kid at school.
	Well, the content will speak for itself.
	Like, I know I've been accused of this.
	Milo was accused of this early in the game that we're liars and we're going to, you know, go, haha, just tricked you at the end.
	But the way I see it is, say you worked at McDonald's and you were being sarcastic the whole time.
	And then after two years of flipping burgers, you go, ha ha, I hate McDonald's.
	McDonald's would just go, well, thanks for flipping all those burgers and cooking all those fries.
	See ya.
	Yeah, no one really thought of that.
	Like, even if I was like an undercover, like secretly, like, you know, secretly deep down, I'm super democratic and liberal.
	Like, what am I doing but serving like the conservative purpose?
	But I don't know.
	I think too hard.
	So some of the things that people that catch fire that make no sense to me can make sense to other people.
	I don't know.
	Well, content is king, and eventually the truth will prove itself.
	So I think we've already seen that you're not doxing people as the three weeks pass.
	And as the months pass, we'll see that you're just here to provide a new perspective from someone who you wouldn't expect it from.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm super passionate.
	My mission has always been the same.
	It's mission critical for me to wake up the black community.
	That's the only thing that I intend to do.
	You know, I just signed on with Turning Point, so I'm literally, all 2018 is going to be me descending on campuses, trying not to get my butt kicked by Black Lives Matter.
	I'm going to go and I'm going to meet with them and talk to them and give speeches.
	And that's what I've always been about is making content with a different perspective, but primarily the focus being on waking up black people.
	Red pill, black.
	Hello.
	Like I thought it was pretty odd.
	Well, be careful because as you learned from that angry phone call, hell hath no fury like a lover scorned.
	And if there's one thing the left hates, it's someone who they want to be their little pet, not being a good doggie.
	Right.
	And you know what was really funny is like when this whole like dog piling started on with the YouTubers, I started to wonder, like, because they were convinced that everyone had their back, like, you know, this is what, you know, that everyone thought this about me.
	I almost think that this was liberals like jumping in that is seeing like the right tone and all of that support they thought was coming from the right.
	Because I mean, everyone on the right kind of was like, dude, I think this is kind of ridiculous.
	You know, the bigger characters, I guess you would say.
	And I think that liberals look for those opportunities and we just can't hand it to them like that.
	It was so stupid.
	And if you think something, just pick up the phone.
	I'm like the most successful person in the entire world.
	Reach out and say, hey, I saw this.
	What's this?
	What's that?
	Like, I would clarify immediately because I'm really not interested in drama.
	Well, I am.
	So thank you for coming on the show and clearing all this up.
	But next time, let's get down to more juice, more goss.
	I know.
	I'm so boring.
	I just, I'm just a girl that stays at home with her cats, honestly.
	Well, I want to talk to you and your cats more often.
	So please come back again soon.
	I will.
	I have to give a shout to one of my friends that actually started this entire Red Pill Black project.
	For me, I just found out it's a proud boy.
	Oh, who's that?
	James Benefico is a proud boy.
	He started this entire journey for me by dropping my video and Reddit, and it went viral.
	So I told him I was like, I'll say hi to Gavin if you're you proud boy.
	I'm going to kiss him on the lips next time I see him.
	See you later.
	Bye.
	So check this out.
	It's a video posted by Woman's March.
	It has 9 million views.
	I guess it's about the Woman's March, or I guess it's about marching in general.
	Now, I'm of the belief that in 2017, you got all your rights.
	The only things that are worth marching about would be, say, free speech or something that is being imposed upon.
	But let's find out why the left marches.
	Let's see what they're going for.
	What's your beef, lefties?
	Because I want to feel safe at school.
	Stop.
	What does that mean?
	Does it mean we want to outlaw bullying?
	So you're going an anti-bully march?
	You are safe at school, especially you, rich white kid with perfect diction.
	There's no way that you're living in the hood.
	So what do you mean?
	You want to feel safe at school?
	We feel too safe at school.
	We've outlawed bullying.
	We've outlawed wedgies.
	Cops come to the school and press charges every time there's the slightest infraction.
	In my day, you got beat up for wearing glasses.
	That was good.
	We screwed you up by you being too safe at school.
	But anyway, not worth marching about next.
	Because I'm a feminist.
	What?
	Stop.
	A black man is a feminist, and that's why he marches.
	I don't really see that at the woman's march.
	A bunch of black dudes getting together saying, yeah, man, let's just go and march.
	Let's march for the woman's march because what?
	What?
	That's not really indicative of a pattern here.
	Why are you in this ad?
	Keep going.
	That's not a dirty word.
	Because my life matters.
	Stop, stop.
	Now, I'm confused here because she's bald.
	It looks like she might be going through chemo or something, but she has her eyebrows.
	I guess the first guy was marching because he's a feminist, so he's part of the woman's march.
	Okay, I have no problem with that, but that doesn't make any sense.
	And now this woman is marching, I don't know, because she's bald?
	Because we want her to have cancer?
	Or is this Black Lives Matter, which is based on the assumption that someone thinks Black Lives Don't Matter?
	And if a cop shoots a black person, by the way, that's a deranged mentality.
	That's deranged.
	To think that I think, or anyone in America goes, yeah, who cares?
	It was a Negro.
	Go ahead, blow them away.
	We used to hunt them blacksmore.
	And then they'll show you some picture from some drawing of 1620 and go, actually, you did.
	No, I did not.
	So that's a crazy thing to march about.
	But go ahead.
	And my life matters, and so does hers.
	Wait, stop.
	What the hell does that mean?
	And by the way, this was posted by the Woman's March.
	What is with lefties where they get to appropriate all of their things?
	So the Woman's March gets the Mike Brown conflict.
	Do gays get that too?
	Does everyone just get the same gripe?
	You're in a big gripe bucket together?
	No, you have different things.
	And by the way, the last woman's march, the last woman's march, pro-choicers were the only ones who were allowed.
	Pro-lifers were not allowed, which is mental because it was run by Linda Sarseur, who's a Muslim, and I'm sorry, but if you have a burqa on, if you have a hijab on, then you're a practicing Muslim.
	And if you're a practicing Muslim, you're pro-life.
	So, lady, if you care so much about the life in there, why weren't you invited to the woman's march?
	You see, this is all just mental.
	It's just, sorry, but it's just girls' playing house.
	Keep going.
	Because a bathroom doesn't define you.
	Stop.
	That is the craziest one yet.
	A bathroom doesn't define me.
	That's what we're screaming at.
	You're making bathrooms into a big deal.
	You're saying it defines you.
	And we keep hearing about how Trump wants to take rights away from trans, and you go, what rights?
	Well, he doesn't want them in the military.
	You can't get in the military if you have flat feet or you're slightly depressed or you farted last week.
	So I'm sorry if trans people aren't allowed, but that's pretty normal.
	And as far as the bathroom thing, you're the one who made it part of your identity.
	You're the one who made it an issue.
	You're the one who pretended that, say, you go to the men's.
	I don't know which bathroom you go to.
	Do you go to the men's?
	If you go to the men's and you go to a stall, do you think we're all going to be sitting there going, hey, hey, hey, hey, what the hell's going on in here?
	It's a mythical fight.
	So far, I've seen nothing but mythical fights.
	Cops aren't hunting the police.
	No one's trying to kill your baby besides the abortionists you're supporting.
	And you're the one who said a bathroom to find you.
	But let's just keep hearing them out.
	Because this has all been lies so far.
	Because diversity is beautiful.
	Because my grandmother fought for the rights of vote.
	Okay, just stop.
	Sorry.
	So diversity is beautiful.
	That's why you march.
	I don't know what that means.
	Is that pro-immigration?
	That's a separate argument.
	And by the way, I've never heard a good argument for why diversity is beautiful.
	They showed me a hot Indian chick.
	Yes.
	She is so insanely hot that she was plucked out of the ghetto in India and shot into a movie that immediately became the most successful movie of the year.
	So yeah, you're definitely pretty.
	But every time liberals are forced to defend diversity, they always just talk about the variety of restaurants, which is colored people serving them.
	People of color with trays in their hands going, would you like some of this I prepared?
	Would you like some of that I prepared?
	That's their idea of diversity.
	What are you, Julius Caesar?
	You sit down with a big blanket on you, having people feed you grapes and you go, I like these people.
	Sounds like slavery to me.
	And now we go because my grandmother fought for the right to vote.
	Yes, valid beef a long time ago.
	It's not a valid beef anymore.
	You're marching so blacks can vote?
	Are you also marching to free Nelson Mandela?
	Why don't you march so women can vote?
	Why don't you march to prevent Sharia law?
	Oh no, sorry, sorry.
	We went a little too far into reality there.
	All right, please give me another one.
	Please be a thing.
	Because I come from a family of immigrants.
	This one is mental, but keep going.
	I don't know where I would be if they weren't afforded that opportunity.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Now, you're Asian.
	I don't know what kind of Asian you are.
	Probably not Eurasian.
	And you're definitely, you're older.
	You're not a youth in Asia.
	And she's saying she marches because her parents are immigrants.
	My parents are immigrants.
	I'm an immigrant.
	I don't understand.
	You're marching to what?
	Keep borders open?
	We accept a million people a year.
	Are you saying that's not enough?
	And by the way, if you're Asian in America, you, generally, the pattern is you make more money than me.
	Whites are something like seventh most successful ethnic group.
	At the top, we have Indian Americans.
	Then we've got tons of Asians.
	So you guys are doing great.
	And by the way, not a lot of people balk at the idea of professional Japanese surgeons coming into our country and getting jobs here.
	We're more concerned about unskilled labor taking the jobs.
	And of course, illegals.
	What is it with liberals where they can't differentiate between legal immigration and illegal immigration?
	And I highly suggest if you're talking to them at Thanksgiving, you say, I'm not against legal, even though you kind of are and you want it to be revamped and based on our meritocracy.
	That's too much for them to eat at once.
	That's too big of a mouthful.
	Just go, but surely you can be, you agree with me that illegal immigration is out of control.
	You have to spoon feed them little cranberry spoonfuls.
	I know this chick.
	She grew up in a cult.
	She's in those ads, those mobile ads.
	And she has a lot of stalkers because she's incredibly buxom and pretty.
	Women do get equal pay for equal work, you stupid hippie.
	And then, check it out.
	They say these motherhood statements, these total reductivist statements, where they've reduced the argument down to nothing.
	And then they look at their own statement, like gay marriage is about two people in love and two people in love should be able to be together.
	And then they go, duh.
	Look, if you're saying duh, it's usually an indication that you're not phrasing the argument correctly and you're not aware of the complexities of said argument.
	3x plus y cubed spun about the z-axis is approximately 3x plus 4y.
	Duh.
	Check her out.
	God, she's hot.
	Because women deserve equal pay for equal work?
	Duh.
	Because of my moms.
	You marched because of...
	What does that mean?
	I march because of my mom's.
	Because we've made adopting kids illegal for lesbians?
	No, we didn't.
	In fact, it's often much easier for gays to get kids.
	Perez Hilton has got kids out the wazoo, and I've got straight friends who had to work and work and work.
	It took them years to get friends.
	You know why?
	Because he's famous.
	Or often the mother can choose where she wants it to go, and she wants it to go to gays because she thinks it's cool and it's hot and it's exciting.
	So there isn't this scourge of abandoned lesbians wishing they could adopt.
	In fact, if I go through my own Rolodex, and I'm sure it's the same for you if you're an urban creative type, I bet you see more gays with kids, adoption-wise, than straights with adopted kids.
	Obviously, lesbians can't breed, but you know what I mean.
	Out of all the adopted kids you know, the parents tend to be gay.
	And very few people have a problem with this, by the way.
	This is not, there's not, you don't need to go to the streets and fight against this horrible scourge of evil men who don't want lesbians having kids.
	I've definitely heard some people say that.
	They tend to be very religious and very old.
	But you don't have to march against them.
	They're not a thing.
	That's the thing about the liberal things.
	None of them are actually a thing.
	It's always like, I marched because my grandmother fought for the right to vote and she was killed.
	And you go, that's terrible.
	But is that a pattern in 2017?
	No, then why are you marching?
	Go do it by her grave and say, she had a terrible time.
	That makes way more sense.
	All right, let's go.
	This country has always been about freedom.
	Stop.
	Look at this oxymoron.
	Look at her.
	She has a hijab on and she's talking about freedom.
	And she's saying the freedom to what?
	Be a second-class citizen under Sharia?
	Are you aware that you're a human contradiction?
	I should have the freedom to be a second-class citizen in America.
	Nah, no.
	Nah, not so much.
	We tolerate everything but intolerance.
	You know the Nazi thing?
	You know how you say that all white men are homophobes and sexists and racists and all that?
	You're going to find plenty of that in Islam.
	So let's put them a little lower in our priority list for immigrants.
	Maybe bring in some Christians, like the Syrian refugees that are Christian, or the northern Iraqi refugees that are Christian, or the Coptic Christians in Egypt.
	Or maybe what about some white Christians from South Africa that are living in a compound?
	Can we pull them in and not base our whole immigration policy on virtue signaling?
	Keep going.
	By the way, this is a woman's march.
	And this is crazy, because no means no.
	And that's why she marched.
	So you're anti-rape.
	We're anti-rape.
	Society is anti-rape.
	We put guys in jail for 15 years when they rape chicks.
	That's why when Mattress Girl was carrying the mattress around, we said, please go to the police.
	Please present your case.
	We've been working on this since the Magna Carta.
	In fact, I think a man wrote, no means no.
	We say no to rape.
	We'll teach men not to rape.
	We do.
	We throw them in prison.
	You're marching against rape.
	Yeah, it's illegal.
	And by the way, you're going to see a lot more rape in Islam and all these other cultures that you can't wait to import because America is all about freedom.
	Go ahead.
	Oh means no.
	Because I want to smash the glass ceiling.
	The glass ceiling is smashed, lady.
	All right, these are getting Because I want to march forward, not backwards.
	That doesn't mean that.
	Because I want my voice to be heard.
	I can hear you.
	I'm not scared of bullets.
	You are a bully.
	I can't breathe.
	Oh, is this the Eric Jarga thing?
	Because love wants.
	Love?
	I don't know.
	That really sums it up.
	I am marching because I love love and I hate hate and I think war is bad.
	You know what I hear?
	I hear someone who isn't sophisticated enough to be involved in politics.
	Dr. Daryl Wyman is on the line.
	Dr. Wyman, are you there?
	Yes, I am, Mr. McGinnis.
	Are you one of these annoying doctors that makes everyone call you doctor all the time?
	In the professional setting of the hospital or when I'm teaching residents or teaching medical students, yes.
	Outside of the hospital, if people don't know I'm a doctor, I don't mind if they just call me by my first name.
	Okay, D-Dog.
	I'm going to call you D-Dog.
	That's all right.
	I wanted to get you on the show because I have a theory.
	I think heart surgery is a cinch.
	You've got those clamps.
	First of all, you just make a slit down the middle.
	You get the clamps, pop, it opens you up like an alien.
	And then there's just really four pieces of pasta, like there's four tubes that go in there.
	Chop, chop, chop, chop.
	And then you go, well, there's a rush because he's going to die when you take his heart out.
	No, you take something from the femoral artery, that goes in a machine, and you have like four hours while the machine does the heart work.
	And you could go have a cigarette, whatever, and you just stitch it up, and it's already been checked for acceptability, you know, rejection.
	And boom, you're done in what, an hour?
	Well, actually, you're making it very simplistic.
	It is much more complicated than what you're describing.
	The heart has more than just four tubes coming in and out of it.
	And there's many things that we have to do when we're doing open heart surgery to protect the rest of the body while we stop the heart to do what we have to do.
	The suturing that you're describing is the type of steps that you would take in a heart transplant.
	But there are many other operations that we do in the heart.
	We do coronary artery bypass grafting.
	We do valve repairs and replacements.
	We can remove tumors from the heart.
	We can do aortic root reconstructions from aneurysms or dissections.
	So it's a little bit more complicated than you're making it out to be.
	So how many tubes?
	I notice you're very ambiguous.
	You say there's more tubes.
	What is there, like five?
	Well, if you're doing a transplant, the areas that you're going to be dealing with are the two atria, the right and left atria, the aorta, the pulmonary artery.
	The pulmonary veins very often are taken separately instead of just the left atrium.
	So we're talking about six or seven different structures.
	And while we're doing this, we have to keep the patient alive.
	So we have to make sure that there's oxygenated blood going to the body.
	So we have to do that through a cannula into the aorta.
	We have to drain the venous return to the heart, which is the desaturated blood, which is lower in oxygen.
	That goes to the heart-lung machine.
	And there's other tubes going in and out for venting purposes or for giving cardioplegia, which is medicine to protect the patient, while we're on bypass.
	So those little veins, I will give you this.
	Those little veins, besides the big pasta ones, that must be tricky to sew.
	If we're doing coronary artery bypass surgery, those aren't veins, those are arteries.
	But you're half right because very often conduits that we're using to bypass the blockages in the coronaries are vein that we harvest from the leg or from radial artery that we're harvesting from the arm or internal mammary artery that we're harvesting off of the chest wall.
	Those are one to two millimeter vessels and we're sewing them to one to two millimeter vessels for the bypass.
	And we're using suture material that is finer than the human hair.
	So we use magnification and we are very meticulous in what we're doing.
	And it's not as easy as you might think.
	Well, I don't.
	Look, I know heart surgery is easy and I'm sorry to expose you here because now everyone's going to be doing it.
	But I will throw you a bone and admit that sewing a tiny artery, that must take a steady hand to get in.
	Do you literally stitch it like you would stitch, say, two tubes of cloth?
	Yes.
	Okay, I have an idea for an easier way.
	You take a stint, like a small little straw, and it's biodegradable.
	You put that in one tube, and then the other tube, you seal them together, wrap that with any kind of a sort of a sticky kind of a thing, adhesive, or any kind of a wiring, that also is biodegradable.
	And then over time, the tube will reseal, and then the outer and the inner tubes will disintegrate back into the blood and get cleaned by the liver.
	Well, actually, you've obviously been doing some reading because there is research being done on other ways to attach these small vessels together using these types of devices that you're describing and glues of various kinds to glue the two ends together.
	That hasn't really reached the clinical scenario yet, but people are doing things like this in the laboratory.
	Okay, so what you just are saying now is that I'm actually smarter than the entire medical community.
	I don't think my words were that specific, but I am impressed by your knowledge.
	That's the inference there.
	I think that's what people will glean from it.
	How much do you get paid to do heart surgery?
	I had this guy that's going to come and wallpaper my house, and he said it'll cost, no, no, sorry, one tiny room in my house.
	And he said, it'll be $1,400.
	And then he said, but if you prep it first, I'll come by, take me a couple hours, I'll charge you like 700 bucks.
	And I said, $700 to put up?
	Well, you're talking to a person who is an academic heart surgeon.
	I work for a university.
	I get a salary.
	So whether I do 200 hearts a year or 50 hearts a year or 1,000 hearts a year, I get the same salary every month.
	It is expensive.
	I know that third-party payers do have to pay the people that are billing, which comes from the university billing department or the hospital billing departments.
	But it's much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago.
	The remuneration of the third-party payers to physicians in general, not just heart surgeons, has gone down remarkably over the last decade or so.
	So, how much would you get?
	Like, how much would a university charge to do a heart transplant, and how much would the actual surgeon get in his pocket cash at the end?
	Well, it's the same salary whether we're operating or not.
	So, if we do a transplant, the third-party payers, that money goes to the hospitals that are doing the filling.
	Well, then I would just say I'm feeling sick and I have blurred vision today.
	Sorry.
	Or just feign Parkinson's.
	That's very hard to disprove.
	Well, there are many rewards that we get in taking care of sick people that are far different than just monetary rewards of our salary or the payments being made.
	Taking care of sick people is really a calling.
	I consider it an honor that people will let me take care of them.
	And that's the type of payment that really I can't put a dollar sign on, Mr. McInnes.
	Okay, last question.
	Was there ever a moment where you were in there inside someone's heart taking out a tumor and you just sort of went, not me, but sometimes, well, often we have trainees that come to the operating room to watch what we're doing because one of our missions is to train physicians, nurses, other ancillary health care personnel for the future.
	And sometimes these young people in training do get lightheaded.
	We usually assign a senior person to stand behind them in the operating room until we know that they can handle it okay.
	I have had people faint on me in the operating room.
	Okay, so I think the takeaways from this interview is heart surgery is pretty easy except for this tiny veins.
	I figured out a way to make that easier and it's gross.
	I'm not going to agree with all of that.
	I hope that with the pictures that you're going to be showing your audience, they will get some sort of an idea that it can be much more complicated than you may see in pictures that are put up on the internet or in books that you might be reading that you pick up the books.
	Yeah, we've seen the pictures.
	It's like an airplane.
	There's a lot of buttons there, but you only need like five of them.
	You guys have too many dubes.
	You got too many extra dupes.
	Nothing is extra, trust me.
	Dr. Wyman, thank you very much for coming on the show and for being tolerant of my naivete.
	I enjoyed it very much, Mr. McGinnis.
	Thank you for having me.
	Cheers.
	We're going to tell you about the young idea.
	There is a phenomenon here in New York.
	I don't know, maybe it's where you are too, but it's in Brooklyn, South Brooklyn, where Brooklyn is still broke.
	And they're called the Black Israelites.
	I don't really get what they're talking about.
	I think they think they're the original Jews or something.
	I like looking at them.
	They're interesting.
	They're colorful.
	They've got a lot of placards I like to check out.
	I saw a white guy with them once filming them, like wearing their gear.
	But they're very serious and they're kind of scary.
	And I've seen women go up and say, don't you talk about women that way?
	And I just think, ugh, please, lady, don't get involved.
	Just watch from afar.
	But as Trump's America and liberal cities like Brooklyn go more and more left, the black Israelites get more and more angry.
	And when they meet in the middle, you have extreme ethnomasochism meets basically anti-white racism.
	And it is a bizarre combination.
	So what was just up until now, just people going, okay, as they walk by, now has these white guys going, what can I do to help?
	You're right.
	We are disgusting.
	So they've started literally kissing their feet, licking their boots.
	And it's not a gay fetish, and it's been happening a lot.
	Show that first video, Dave, the one that's like a meme.
	Look at this guy.
	Lord God of Israel is.
	So if you really a man of justice, bow down your face to the earth and lick the dust off of our boots.
	That's right.
	Ugh, look at that guy.
	Bow down your face to the earth and lick the dust off of the booth.
	Bow down and lick the dust of hard.
	Can you pause it?
	Can you pause it?
	Look at the way his hands are in his pockets like that.
	I mean, he's so vulnerable.
	It's almost like when your dog just lies on his back and shows submission.
	It's just so disgusting.
	And by the way, do you think you get respect from these guys now?
	Do you think they go, all right, man, we're even.
	You kissed my boot.
	Now we're friends.
	No, they hate you.
	It's sort of like when these hostages are kidnapped by the Taliban and they convert to Islam.
	The terrorists don't appreciate that.
	They think of you as weak, you loser, as Walt Kowalski says in Gran Torino.
	This isn't your bro.
	Keep going, though.
	Does he do it again?
	Yay, we got an idiot.
	So you go, well, I'm never going to see that again.
	That was a freak occurrence.
	It was some guy who just lost his whole family in a car crash and is on Xanax and doesn't even remember doing it.
	No, he was very conscious.
	And his mentality is common.
	Now, here it is happening again.
	And this one is even worse.
	Stay right there.
	Read on.
	With their face toward the earth.
	And make up the.
	Hold on.
	With your face toward the earth.
	Right?
	Keep going.
	And make up the dust of thy feet.
	That means you kiss the boots of the prophets.
	That's right.
	Let's see if you need it.
	That's right.
	Let's leave the limits.
	Let's kiss the boots.
	Look at this.
	Can you just pause it?
	Look at him.
	Wait, pause.
	Oh, wait.
	I'm the one who pauses.
	This is a particular type of liberal I've noticed.
	I bet you a million bucks.
	This guy is a southern liberal.
	They are particularly cloaked in guilt, and I think they get bullied when they're in high school.
	So they come up to New York City, and you'll see a lot of this in liberal media.
	The guys are these sort of five foot seven.
	They have little beards and cardigans on, and they work for Daily Beast type of blogs, gawker type things, and they are just so drenched in guilt that they are kissing the boots of the black Israelites.
	Yeah, get him.
	Get him while you're at it.
	He's a good white man.
	Let's get the book.
	Come on, yes, I know!
	Come on, yes, I know!
	Look at him!
	Get your boot kits.
	All praise is due to the Most High God, man.
	That's a righteous man.
	That's a righteous thing.
	That's a righteous man.
	That's a righteous man.
	And let me say something.
	It's hard, man.
	What?
	The right unbelievable.
	Look, you're not gaining anything by apologizing and saying I suck.

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