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Episode 16 - Dave Smith Duked Out

Dave Smith sucks. He spoke with Candace Owens for 2 hours and it's so off the rails insane that the Ye conversations were more sane by comparison. Patreon.com/GishgallopGirl RSS at Gishgallopgirl.com The links below will make sense during the episode. https://archive.org/details/HitlerLives https://archive.org/details/YourJobInGermany1945

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	You just listened to the 16-bit hard lyric version of our theme song.
	We just listened to it as well.
	So, yeah, welcome to Gish Gallop Girl.
	My name is Thomas Anderson, and I'm here with my son.
	Matthew Anderson.
	Yep, as per the use.
	Okay, so we have got a fucking show for you.
	I'm going to go ahead and start things off here, though, before we get into the...
	Into the scripted material.
	So, a little follow-up on getting into locals.
	Yeah.
	I finally did it.
	Oh.
	Here's how.
	Something in my brain clicked and I was like, maybe they have an app.
	Yeah.
	They have an app.
	That's the only way you can get into that fucking site.
	That's unfortunate that they have an app.
	Yeah.
	But they took the time to make an app.
	Oh, it's so much worse.
	It's so much worse.
	So, Candice, of course, I went on there and I followed her right away.
	Candice, on the app, has a subscription model, right?
	Yeah.
	Now, the subscription model, if you look at it on her website, if you type in CandiceOwens.com, it'll pull up her locals page.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't really pull up a website.
	To get her merch and stuff, like her fucking stupid Stanley cups, you have to go to...
	ClubCandice.com Now, CandiceOwens.com directing you to Locals makes it look like you can subscribe for $7 a month or $84 a year or whatever the fuck it is.
	There's no real savings.
	Now, here's where it gets fucky.
	Now, I went through the Locals app because I was like, okay, let's see if I can do what she said.
	Let's see if I can do $0.50 a fucking month.
	I'll give her 50 cents a month if I can get access to that link list.
	Here's the fucked up thing.
	You go on there and it says that you can get one month for this many coins or three months for this many coins or I think there's a six month and a twelve month tier as well.
	Here's the thing.
	In order to get the coins because I clicked on that I was like okay well I don't have any of these nebulous coins.
	How do I get the coins?
	You have to buy like 80 bucks worth of coins at a time to distribute around to locals people.
	If you want to follow Russell Brand for some reason, if you have some sort of self-loathing that you haven't really mastered yet with therapy, you can go follow Russell Brand or any of the hundreds of other people that are on this stupid website.
	True to form though, Candice provided a link list but it's locked out.
	Unless you have given her at least a month of, you know, whatever.
	I'm not going to spend 80 goddamn dollars.
	No.
	Just to get access to this list.
	So, what I'm asking, listeners, is if any of y 'all get access to that and you can prove it, you can shoot me an email.
	Or Matthew, if you prefer to.
	We're both listed on the fucking website.
	It's a real easy email list.
	Thomas Anderson.
	If any of you are so inclined to do that, screenshot that shit.
	Send it to us.
	I would really appreciate that.
	Because otherwise, I'm going to have to find a way maybe in a few months during tax time, if it's even relevant at that point.
	But yeah, she didn't put it on her Rumble.
	She didn't put it on any of her podcasts.
	Only on her locals.
	Yeah, only on her locals.
	And it's locked behind an expensive fast payment.
	It's locked behind a very expensive paywall, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Her whole thing of like, 50 cents a month, a dollar a month, whatever.
	All that shit she said in the last episode.
	Bullshit?
	Bullshit.
	Yeah.
	Like, the bullshittiest shit.
	Like the rest of what she was viewing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, just wait for today.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, we already watched that.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Okay, so we're going to get into that.
	We are going to get into that down inside the episode.
	Yeah, we just watched a short film, and trust me, y 'all, you're going to hear about it, because I wrote it into the script.
	So here's the thing, okay?
	So, I was thinking this week I would be able to, having listened to everything ahead of time, of course, I was thinking that I would be able to get through Candace's Dave Smith interview and her yay interview this week.
	Yeah.
	We're not touching the yay interview.
	And I'm going to go ahead and explain that right now.
	The reason why we're not touching the yay interview is, for one thing, it's two years old.
	Two, he was clearly in a bad place that I don't think he's really gotten out of.
	And it's really the only reason, in my opinion, to listen to that or possibly watch it on YouTube because she did put the video up.
	Yeah.
	It's an hour and a half.
	She said it was three hours.
	She's only put up an hour and a half.
	Now, the reason why we're not touching this is I don't, like, I think Kanye needs help.
	I think he needs a lot of help.
	I don't think he's going to get it from the people that he's surrounded himself with.
	And to me, it's just punching down.
	You know, he said a lot of offensive shit that I don't think he understands, in his state of mind back then to now, I don't think he understands why it's offensive.
	And all that he has around him are enablers.
	So, I don't have any sort of celebrity good feelings towards Ye.
	He's not one of the people that I really...
	If he died tomorrow, I wouldn't really give much of a shit.
	But...
	I think it's only worth exploring to show how unintentionally cruel it can be to just enable someone like him when they need a lot of help.
	One of the things that stuck out to me that I wound up looking up that he says, and you know, look, if y 'all want to get a handle on this thing, listen to it, download it, watch it, whatever you want to fucking do.
	But one of the things that he said that I wound up looking up was he said that He was...
	I want to say it correctly, but I'm pretty sure he said something about how he was the first black American billionaire or the first black billionaire.
	He didn't have $2 billion.
	He never had $2 billion.
	He was worth that much on paper because he had a deal with Adidas and a deal with some fashion house.
	It was Balenciaga.
	Yeah.
	He had deals with these companies that each of them was, like, they added up to $1.6 billion.
	Yeah.
	He had $400 million to his name when he started.
	When he lost those sponsorships because of him saying things like, I'm going to go DEFCON 3 on Jews tomorrow.
	Yeah.
	When he lost those sponsorships...
	I honestly forgot about that tweet.
	Well, it's important because he lost those sponsorships and that knocked down his billionaire status.
	Yeah.
	Now, he plays it out as, like, that happened and he doesn't really seem to recognize why.
	And the other thing, too, with that tweet in regards to that is he talks about how, like, he was going to explain what he meant.
	And it's like...
	Dude, you were on Twitter.
	You could have explained that.
	Yeah.
	If you and your army of people had reached out to Jack, who owned Twitter at the time, Jack, whatever his fucking name is, if they had reached out to him and said, hey, Kanye wants to explain this, he's actually sorry about it, he wants to explain this, and then maybe explain it to Jack, and then get the green light,
	he would have gotten his Twitter account back, I think, and explained it, because that would have driven traffic to Twitter.
	Yeah.
	But the fact that he never did, the fact that he didn't use any of his media empire at the time to explain what he meant, that was on him and whoever was controlling his shit.
	Like I said, I don't wish any ill will towards the man.
	I think he needs help, and I don't think that playing the audio of that whole thing or going through it in clip form is going to help the situation at all.
	Like I said, it felt like punching down when I got into it.
	I was like, you know, man, I don't really want to give anybody that's willingly being controlled by a neo-Nazi like Nick Fuentes, or, I'm sorry, a theocratic fascist like Nick Fuentes, or a theocratic fascist like Candace Owens,
	I don't really want to give them much space.
	But, you know, I watched Kanye in that, and...
	He just, he reminded me of mentally compromised children and adults that I'd known growing up that were just being controlled.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, one of the things that he blamed it on, that I took issue with, was he blamed it on booze.
	And then Candace gets into, yeah, and that's why they call it spirits, because, you know, you take a spirit into your body when you drink alcohol.
	And, you know, I've rolled my eyes at that because I do not become a different person when I drink.
	I become a looser person.
	But I'm already who I am 99% of the time.
	You get that little extra 1% with me when I've had some liquor.
	You know, I don't feel the need to hide.
	And someone like Kanye certainly doesn't feel the need to fucking hide who he is.
	I think, like I said, the man just needs a lot of fucking help.
	So we're not going to go through that.
	This entire episode of Clips that we're going to get through after we get through the blackout portion is from the Candace Dave Smith interview.
	It gets horrifying.
	I screamed.
	In my car.
	I screamed.
	I'm glad I wasn't listening to what I heard, and we're going to get into that later.
	I'm glad I wasn't at the library doing my work when I heard that.
	I would have had to calmly pack everything up, walk out, And scream until I was hoarse.
	But let's get into it now.
	So, Blackout, this is part three of three of this chapter, which was on government handouts and welfare.
	Self-sufficiency is the key to black success.
	So this will be the end of this chapter of Blackout.
	Candace asserts that self-sufficiency is the key to black success, but much like her chosen economist, Thomas Sowell, She provides no clear path forward of how that is supposed to happen.
	She actually says at the end of the first paragraph, the same government that freed us from bondage is the one that bound us in the first place, which is honestly one of the most simplistic mindsets I think I've seen yet.
	And was pushed to keep it going by lobbyists working for business groups and public misperception that relied upon it years after many other countries had outlawed it.
	The economy that someone like Candace will tell you was built on hard work and perseverance and risk usually failed to show how it was achieved without a reliance on slavery at some level in the early days of America.
	Candace also fails to recognize in this chapter that black citizens decades after the Civil War In 1921,
	Black Wall Street in the Greenwood District was destroyed by a racist mob in the span of two days.
	Families were slaughtered and dispersed, businesses were torched, and it wasn't recognized as an event officially for almost 80 years.
	Then, a few years ago, the fictional but amazingly good series Watchmen on HBO Max, Has this event as a galvanizing focus of the series?
	It's worth watching.
	But back to the content here.
	Candace basically spends five pages on a whole, government bad, reparations bad, pull yourself up by your bootstraps tone that, while I am sure it resonates with white people and people that have never even thought about riding a city bus anywhere, fails to lay out in even a small way what exactly black citizens are supposed to do,
	except hope that their government representatives will do right by them.
	She spends much of this set of pages talking about how taxing the wealthy isn't the answer, while of course failing to realize that people like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and so many others use not only loopholes but also outright lies to escape taxes that if properly taken would likely fund several things that would help to close the gap between the mistreatment of past generations of black citizens and the people that have lived off of the legacy of that mistreatment.
	A lot gets said by people today, you know, I've never owned any slaves.
	And that's true.
	I'm sure the last living slave owner in America died quite some time ago.
	But what they fail to realize is that previous generations that did own slaves used that labor to build their empires and their legacies, many of which continue today.
	No one is asking for those descendants to live in ghettos.
	People simply want them to pay their current fucking taxes most of the time.
	And it always fucking kills me that the same people like Candace that will weaponize the Bible will skip over the part of Scripture where Christ admonishes people to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
	Meaning, pay your fucking taxes.
	I've listened to a lot of Candace and various guests at this point, and I haven't heard her say that verse even once.
	The next chapter, which we'll get into next week, is titled On Education.
	Now let me do one thing here.
	Yeah.
	What's up?
	Yeah, with the...
	What was it?
	The whole taxes thing.
	Yeah.
	Fuck.
	What about it?
	Oh, not taxes.
	Sorry.
	Slavery.
	Yeah.
	They're called interns now.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	Well, there's another reason to appreciate the Biden administration.
	Yeah.
	Is that they've been trying to, I don't know if they actually did it, but I know that, at least in Minnesota, so the upcoming Harris-Waltz campaign, y 'all, I know that unpaid internships are illegal in a lot of states now.
	Oh, fucking sweet.
	Yeah.
	Which was one big barrier that kept a lot of people that couldn't afford to be an unpaid intern, it kept them from finishing college.
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	You know, you've done your four years, or you're coming up on it, or whatever, and oh, now you've got to go be an unpaid intern for how long?
	Months?
	Mm-hmm.
	Months working 40-plus hours a week with no paycheck?
	Yeah.
	Are you insane?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, America was apparently, like, from when I read anyway about that, America was one of the only companies that was allowing for that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You mean countries?
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	What did I say?
	Companies?
	Yeah.
	Fuck it.
	So, Candace Show Episode 40, The Dave Smith Interview.
	Okay, so from the top, I can tell you all, as I said last week, this is an interview that goes off the rails in a way that I was not prepared for, and we will get there.
	Some of you that swim in this muck as well, there is shit coming that a sewer operator couldn't possibly see down the pipe.
	Like a torrent from 100,000 toilets letting loose at once.
	Candice doesn't do the usual cold opener theme song that we're used to in this episode.
	She just launches right into the interview.
	Alright, I'm going to just jump right into this because I'm so excited to have you back.
	I guess, or I guess not really back because it's the first time it's just Candice.
	That's true.
	Yeah, the last time I did your show it had a feeling like the next time I do this show it's going to be in a different place.
	You know, PBD.
	Accurately predicted that as well, but he told me that that was his favorite thing to watch, was the conversation between me and you.
	Oh yeah?
	because we both are just like you're a massive talent and it's obvious that you're on your rocket ship as they say where people are realizing like wait who is this guy he's just supposed to be a comedian but he actually knows so much about politics I promise it's more of a comment on the rest of society than
	it is on me I
	I think about me, too.
	I think all I said was black people don't have to be Democrats, and then things exploded, and I don't really know why, because it wasn't that genius.
	Yeah, I know why, Candace.
	First off...
	If anyone thinks Dave Smith is some sort of great political mind, well, they may need help.
	I haven't seen his stand-up or listened to his podcasts.
	That's a plural.
	But hearing him on here, I can't imagine he's any better or worse than Rogan.
	But to this point, Candace didn't just say that black people don't have to be Democrats.
	As we know, she followed it up with bad takes and bad videos, provided opinions but not facts to back up her assertions, and based an entire early career on the notion that black folks tend to vote Democrat for the concept of free stuff.
	Which she wrote a fucking book about, too.
	As evidenced by how every single show starts.
	Moving on, we'll see that Candace doesn't understand why she was fired still.
	Yes?
	This guy's voice.
	It sounds like when you do the posh rich man.
	Yeah, Frederick, get the car.
	Oh.
	Yeah, he's a blend of that and Joe Rogan.
	Have you ever heard Joe Rogan?
	Yeah.
	The only difference between this guy and Joe Rogan is that Joe Rogan looks like he hits the gym more often.
	Yeah.
	I think if you put Joe Rogan and this guy in the same room for long enough...
	A black hole of stupid will happen.
	Okay, I've unfortunately watched more of the Joe Rogan show through YouTube shorts than I care to admit.
	Well, I'm just flipping through and I'm like, oh, what the fuck's this?
	And I end up watching it.
	Yeah, no, the only way to make the room become a black hole is give Joe Rogan some weed.
	Because there's several interviews where he does it sober, and it's like, okay, this is an interview.
	There's a couple jokes in there that I can get a kick out of.
	Do you know how long the Joe Rogan episodes actually are?
	No.
	They are four hours.
	No, I couldn't listen to that for four hours.
	Almost every day.
	Jesus.
	Yeah.
	But when there's certain episodes where, like...
	He'll start just lighting up a joint, and he'll pass it to his co-host, and then his co-host passes it to the guest.
	And they're all in the same enclosed room, so it just fucking turns into hotboxing.
	Oh yeah, they hotboxed a lot.
	He used to do it from Colorado.
	He moved to Austin, Texas, which has much tighter weed regulations.
	I don't think he's hotboxing anymore.
	Well, I remember seeing one of them.
	He got Elon Musk stoned.
	Yeah, that's the famous one where people were like, this is where the Cybertruck was conceived.
	Yeah.
	It's hilarious because I watched that one and the way it was edited was just Elon Musk going, uh, yeah, Tesla.
	He did.
	He moved to Austin after he signed his $100 million contract with Spotify.
	He moved to Austin, Texas.
	He's best friends with Alex Jones.
	And he's good friends with Elon Musk as well.
	He's so stupid.
	He compares himself in his stand-up routine to when he's next to Elon, He feels like a dog.
	He feels like Elon's dog.
	Because he feels so stupid around Elon.
	Who is not that smart.
	No.
	No, he's not.
	So, yeah.
	The only way I'm ever covering Rogan is if she goes on his show and I feel like I have to.
	I feel like that's an inevitability.
	Maybe.
	I know she's been on his show before.
	And I'm not looking forward to that when we go back through the old Candace episodes, once we're done with Blackout, and we start traveling through the back catalog.
	I'm not looking forward to coming across the one where she goes, and next week I'll be unbroken, and I'm just going to scream.
	Yeah.
	Because I know that's going to be like a four-hour talk where a lot of stupid shit's going to get said.
	Yep.
	Yep, I know that's coming up.
	I'm aware of it.
	So yeah, here's the next clip.
	I think about it, like, too, that your first, I think, take that really launched into this chapter of your career was just like, I sure do feel bad about all these dead Palestinian babies.
	And, you know, and then everybody was like, what, do you hate Jewish people?
	And you're like, okay, that's...
	That's in it.
	You know, it's Tucker Carlson.
	By the way, I should say Patrick McDavid is great.
	I love that guy.
	His whole operation is incredible.
	But you ever hear the thing Tucker Carlson said?
	I really liked it, where he said, you know if a wound is infected because you touch it and you recoil.
	And there's, like, something about that in life in general where you, like, find these infections.
	It's almost like when you just say something really simple and then everyone's like, oh, it's like, wait, if that's controversial, there's something sinister going on here.
	And it's almost like that's, like, you're like, wait, if you're telling me I feel bad about seeing a dead baby and that's offensive, then I need to, like...
	I need to read a lot more about what's going on here, because something evil is happening.
	That's me.
	I'm just so curious when I see, and I think another colloquial way to say it, is they say it's a hit dog that hollers.
	Right. Perfect example of that was when I tweeted, genocide is always wrong, and Dave Rubin just spazzed.
	I just was like, what is happening right now?
	Why are you freaking out?
	Completely had it wrong.
	I wasn't even talking about Israel on that tweet.
	I was talking about Brian Mass, something that he said in Congress, but the way people responded, the fact that it got like 40,000 retweets, and I'm going, this used to be...
	A totally acceptable thing to say that everyone agreed on that we shouldn't be aspiring to genocide, and suddenly it's like this hot topic, and people were covering me all the time, and from that moment on, I was just on the hit list.
	You know what I'm talking about, the hit list, where you've said a thing, we don't accept the thing, so now we're just going to, I guess, try to psychologically wear you down by writing hit pieces of things that you didn't say to try to convince the general public that you're the crazy one, and we're not just psychopaths that believe in genocide.
	Yeah, so, I have a feeling that Candace's personal views, her Christofash leanings, might have come into question at some point.
	I'm sure I'm not the only one that had been putting it together, but considering that she was fired by people that knew her from behind the scenes of her show, it just seems likely.
	When we look at how her work has progressed since her ouster from the Daily Wire network, tweeting that genocide is always wrong likely wasn't what got her kicked off.
	I have a feeling that if she wasn't okay behind the scenes, or if she was okay behind the scenes, they might have tolerated her outward views on the Gaza genocide, if only to prove that they had thick skin at the Daily Wire.
	Like it could have worked in their favor.
	But given how her theocratic fascism has spilled out, I think they knew what they had on their hands and booted her before it could get more embarrassing.
	Yeah, because they're not going to keep a...
	Man, it's great that she actually admitted to being a theocratical fascist.
	Yeah.
	Which, I'll be honest, I haven't really had the time to look up what the fuck is the difference between a theocratical fascist and a normal fascist.
	Well, I mean, it's the same as being a Christofascist for her, but it's basically just using religion to justify fascism.
	Okay, so the Iberium of Mankind.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Whatever that Warhammer shit is that all you kids are about.
	Unfortunately, not that many are about.
	Yeah, I feel like if you walked into our local comic shop and you were like, I have questions about Warhammer, you'd get like a thousand hands that would shoot up.
	Yeah.
	From the ground.
	Let alone the ten guys playing Warhammer in there.
	So, here we go.
	Next one.
	Yeah, being against genocide shouldn't be too controversial.
	But it is.
	It is today.
	And you are, I think, obviously, you are right at the heart of it, because you're like me during BLM.
	I was black, saying common sense.
	Like, hey, I know that there's white people here, but they were never slave owners, and we can't just take all their money and take their jobs and tell them to literally, at one point, they were getting on their hands and knees and cleaning black people's shoes at the height of BLM people's shoes.
	So this wasn't a widespread practice, which is why many of you may not have heard about it either until just now.
	This was a performative act notably done by Dan Cathy in 2020.
	Dan Cathy was the CEO of Chick-fil-A.
	And he shined the shoes of a rapper named Lecrae on some show.
	He said he was doing this as an act of contrition to apologize for white people being slave owners in the past, and said that white people should be more thankful and offer black citizens genuine hugs, friendship, and an ear to listen to their valid concerns as society moves on to deal with racism.
	Now, while some of that may be true coming from him, the move of shining shoes sparked some backlash and wasn't widely practiced, of course.
	I hadn't heard about it until this interview when I had to go look the bullshit up.
	Dave Smith actually says something decent after saying something dumb.
	You're now the Jewish person who's saying common sense, like, hey, this is kind of crazy, like, America shouldn't be pledging allegiance.
	To everything that Israel wants to do, and I think that's what slanted you in some hot water.
	Well, I think, and there's a lot of parallels there, you know, not everything, there's differences in the situation, but I think one of the parallels is also that it's, like, as you were saying with the Black Lives Matter stuff, that also, like, hey, this isn't good for us.
	Like, it's not even just, like, first and foremost, it's not right.
	But even additionally to that, this isn't helping black people any.
	Some white dude doing some performance ritual of cleaning your shoes or whatever, this doesn't actually do anything for black people.
	This isn't elevating us to the next level.
	This isn't getting the black people who are struggling in America out of poverty or something like that.
	None of this helps.
	And in fact, all you're doing really is kind of getting like privileged black people who were already going to be fine a nicer house.
	That's not, this is nothing.
	And I kind of do feel the same way.
	Like first and foremost, I think what Israel's doing to the Palestinians is wrong.
	Even actually first and foremost, I think it's.
	But on top of that, after that, I guess, I also don't think this is good for Jewish people.
	I don't think this is good for Israel and then more broadly for Jewish people.
	I think this is creating a whole lot of resentment against them.
	It's actually like this kind of sick, self-fulfilling prophecy where you are creating the conditions where actually something really bad could happen.
	And I don't want to see that.
	And that's what I was saying to...
	Okay, so here he doesn't sound unreasonable.
	Yes, supporting the Gaza genocide is a bad look for anyone, to anyone that looks at it past Israeli propaganda.
	My take, of course, is that for Nazis, this is a thing they are using to point the finger at Jews, and it's little else than that.
	Like, it's a good cover to hide behind.
	The reason why I keep calling it the Gaza genocide is because it isn't a war.
	But if taken on these words alone, Dave Smith would sound reasonable.
	He doesn't stay there, and Candace piles onto it with...
	Black people, I was just like...
	If you think that because people are pretending to like you because they're fearful of losing their jobs, that means they really like you.
	That's not what you want.
	You want people to just like you, right?
	Because you're going, this is a good person and I think that I want to work with this person because they're hardworking, because they're intelligent.
	When they know that basically they got thugged into this, what do you think is going on behind closed doors?
	What do you think they're actually saying about you behind closed doors?
	I don't want people to look at me and think that everywhere that I am, it's simply because BLM went crazy following George Floyd and they're just terrified to lose their jobs.
	And so they're just sort of subjecting themselves to this harassment.
	Because at a certain point, BLM just became a full throttle harassment of white people in every single regard.
	And it is interesting because I recognized that the people that.
	I think a lot of the things that we've been conditioned and a lot of our responses are due to childhood traumas that are happening in the classroom.
	So they've got us public school system, you know, Jimmy Carter kind of signed in the Department of Education into law.
	I think it was in 1970.
	Yeah, that would be a miracle.
	Carter wasn't a president in 1970.
	Carter signed the Department of Education into existence in 1979 and had started work in May of 1980.
	Previous to that, President Andrew Johnson had signed a similar office into existence in 1867.
	And it was tasked with gathering raw data about the American school system to get a handle on what exactly was going on.
	It was criticized as an overreach and was whittled down to be the office of education within a year.
	It wasn't a cabinet-level position for over 100 years, but Carter's signing changed that.
	As for what Candace said about BLM forcing white people to accept that, you know, black lives actually matter, if anyone felt forced or coerced to be nicer to black citizens, then that was their own fucking problem.
	I think if they had just been decent people to start with, they wouldn't have felt pressure to do a reckoning of their own personal bullshit.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	I mean, shit.
	I never quite understood what anybody's problem was with black folks, because, shit, especially when I started working at Wendy's.
	Yeah.
	I was working there, and all...
	Fuck, half the night crew was black guys, and they were all really fucking nice to me.
	Yeah, like, you know, like...
	Nothing was funnier than when the one guy started yelling at me, though, and the rest of them all looked at him, and they were like, Hey!
	Be nice to him.
	He's our little white kid.
	And I was like, I don't know how I feel about this, but alright.
	Yeah.
	I mean...
	Like, I loved those guys.
	They were great.
	Well, like, most...
	I mean, you know, people are people.
	And in most jobs that I was ever in, you know, where I had employees or whatever, generally, and, you know, there were always exceptions to every rule, but generally, the black workers I had were better.
	They were almost always on time.
	They got shit done right.
	You know, like, I'm not saying that they were better necessarily than the white people, but...
	You know, they just worked better and harder because they were fighting against that social bullshit that they'd been fighting against probably their entire lives.
	And I was always very cool with, like, you know, I always treated my crew, regardless of who or what they were, with the same level of dignity that I always wanted to be treated with.
	But, yeah, you know, I never had an issue.
	Or rarely had issues.
	And it was usually, like...
	It was usually like, okay, you know, so-and-so has just checked out.
	Yeah.
	You know, but in a given restaurant that I would manage, we would go through way more, like, white folks, especially when they would say something off-color to me, like,
	oh, you know, so-and-so, like, they just think they can get their way because they're black, and I'd be like, hey, hey, hey, no.
	No, you don't get to talk like that around here.
	Yeah.
	No, I don't know who made you think that it's cool to talk like that around here or around me like that, period, but this is your only warning.
	You know, and I wouldn't, you know, throw extra chores on them or anything.
	Like, it was like, okay, you have this one warning.
	And most of the time, those people would get themselves either fired or quit or, you know, I'd get...
	Some notice a couple days ago that they didn't feel right working there anymore.
	And I'm like, okay, you know, whatever.
	And when the others would ask me, you know, like, why did they leave?
	I didn't throw them under the bus.
	I don't, you know, I didn't feel like anybody needed that kind of following.
	But, you know, I'd go, well, I guess they just weren't working out here.
	You know, we had a conflict and I guess it was too much for them.
	But it was funny to me how...
	Most of the times when that would happen, within a couple minutes to a couple days later, they'd tell me, you know, I think so-and-so was racist as fuck.
	He was always looking at me.
	He was always staring me down.
	She always seemed like she had a stink up her nose whenever I was around.
	I'd start hearing that from them.
	I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus when, you know, when we're all trying to just work together and get along because, you know, in a proper restaurant, you sometimes, like, your work family, you sometimes know better than, you know, you're around them more often than your real family.
	You know, and so, like, I didn't need that kind of, like, bullshit going on.
	Yeah.
	And it was like, yeah, you know, I...
	Or they'd hear about them.
	Like, so-and-so would go to, like, another job where everybody knew everybody because the restaurant industry is entirely filled with people that just move around from restaurant to restaurant.
	Yeah.
	You know, and, like, they'd go pull a part-time job at wherever this person wound up and find out that they were a raging asshole.
	You know, and they'd come back and go, I know that dude's a racist now because I fucking heard him talking off to, you know, some Mexican workers.
	Like, you know, it's like, oh, you know, like, I was always trying to keep the peace in my own place, but, you know, they'd start trading notes, and there's nothing I could do to stop that, and I wouldn't want to anyway.
	I'm like, I'm not going to defend somebody that's a fucking dick.
	Yeah.
	You know, but yeah, I said most of the time, though, I could rely on my black employees more often, and it wasn't due to any kind of preference.
	It was just how shit rolled.
	Yeah.
	You know, and I didn't, you know, I never approached anybody thinking, oh, this guy's going to be great because, you know, he's black or she's black or, you know, they're Mexican.
	They should know how to make a fucking sandwich.
	You know, none of that shit ever rolled through my head.
	It was just like, okay, you know, Tony, you're working with Jorge, you're working with Daniela today.
	You know, like, you guys all just please work together.
	I have shit to do.
	Come get me if anything happens.
	Here's my numbers if anyone needs a fucking refund.
	But yeah, you wind up in these situations with people and it's like, man, if you're just a decent person to start with, you can just agree with the simple statement that yes, black lives matter.
	It's not that hard to agree with.
	And the statement is there to remind people that yes, black lives matter because a lot of times they weren't mattering.
	Especially with the police violence, like with George Floyd getting killed.
	The people in the police department tried to sweep it under the rug.
	In spite of it being clear on camera that he was killed by a cop.
	Come on, man.
	It's a simple enough statement.
	It's a simple enough thing to get behind.
	Like I said, if anyone had a problem with it, it was their fucking problem.
	You know, but...
	Yeah, so...
	On to the next one.
	And at that very moment, they were like, okay, now we can propagandize these kids, and they'll have triggers.
	They don't even realize they're triggers when they become adults.
	And so for black people, we are learning, without us even realizing it, that slavery, slavery, slavery, racism is like the worst thing that could possibly exist.
	Think about, you go through this emotional conditioning, this could happen any day.
	So it becomes very easy for people who want to achieve power to just go, hey, black America, like, Trump's about to get elected.
	You're going to be back in chains.
	And black Americans believe that.
	Like, it's such a ridiculous thing, a ridiculous notion that in 2020, had Trump been elected, that, or 2016 party, had he been elected, we would go back in chains.
	But the majority of black Americans legitimately believe this because the media was insisting on it, and then we had this childhood trauma.
	Jewish Americans, it's the Holocaust, right?
	It's like we spend a lot of time studying the Holocaust, and it's actually a trigger for all Americans, myself included.
	And I saw this happening where instantly, whatever happened in Israel, the first thing that was being correlated was the Holocaust.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, when I debated Dennis Prager for that Zero Hedge debate, there was one point.
	Where he was, and I don't know if you could capture this on video, but I was only like a few feet away from him.
	But there was one point where he was talking about Jew hatred and how it's a different virus than everything else.
	And he was like, his eyes were getting watery.
	Like, he was like getting emotional.
	Like, he believed it.
	You know what I mean?
	And there was almost like a moment, I almost wanted to like put my arm around him and be like, hey man, like...
	None of this is real, dude.
	So, like, it's okay.
	You don't have to be scared.
	Like, there's not about to be another Holocaust.
	That's just not...
	And there is, like, this deep-rooted trauma that, like, gets passed on through generations where it's, like, this real belief that this could happen at any moment.
	And I just don't...
	You know, I was...
	Somebody on Twitter told me recently the other day that they said they go 20% of Americans want to see Jewish people exterminated.
	And they go, they'll never say that.
	But about 20%, which first off kind of begs the question of like, well, how did you scientifically arrive at this number?
	Like, if they won't say that, how do you just know?
	So, here we are again with Candace wiping away the Holocaust casually, and Dave Smith following up.
	I didn't watch his debate with Dennis Prager, if it can be called that, but his statement near the end that 20% of Americans would like for there to be another Holocaust, You know, from someone on Twitter.
	While that might be an empty guess, I decided to follow up on it with some simple math to see if I could get a higher or lower number based on simple things that are researchable.
	What I found were study results summarized by a source I find questionable, the Times of Israel, but backed up by the ADL, which stated that the number was at 25% of Americans based on polling data.
	Now, it did not say that there was a Holocaust desire in the study, just that the general views of up to 25% of the population were and are anti-Semitic.
	The poll only consists of 11 questions, and they have gone unchanged as questions since the 1960s.
	The general tone of the statements in the poll is conspiracy-based, such as, Jews have too much control and influence on Wall Street, and respondents are supposed to mark whether or not they agree.
	I wouldn't call that scientific, but given the nature of the sensitivity of the subject, it might be the closest thing we'll ever have to a study of the matter.
	Candace and Dave dish for the next several minutes about material we've covered previously, such as her feelings about Edward Bernays and breakfast, and I won't play that section here.
	They go on to discuss, over several minutes, and I can actually approve of this, that Israel doing a genocide is bad.
	Anyone doing a genocide is bad.
	They go on to start discussing Israel more, and we get this.
	But, as I'm sure you know, and this comes off like, you know, it's almost like people are trained to dismiss this as kind of kooky, but it's the reality, and everybody who knows this stuff knows it.
	The neocons are essentially the Likud vanguard in America.
	And they write it in their own words.
	I think I mentioned this last time I was on your show, but just for everyone, if they want to read this, go read A Clean Break, A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.
	And it was written by Richard Perle and David Wormsar to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996, when he first became Prime Minister.
	This was their letter to Benjamin Netanyahu on what the new strategy for Israel ought to be.
	And the new strategy for Israel?
	Regime change in Iraq.
	Making deals, bribing off the surrounding Arab countries so you don't have to do this silly peace process thing that every U.S. president had been insisting you do.
	And so that's, you know, this is a huge part of why we've embarked on these terror wars over the last 20 plus years.
	Your perspective is we're doing this because it's actually securing Israel, not because it's securing America.
	Jumping in here to...
	Yeah, so I looked into this, of course.
	And he isn't wrong.
	This is a public policy document produced for Netanyahu from 1996 during his first run as their Prime Minister, and it advocated for Israel to become less dependent on America, drive further into Palestine, and to be a partner in the Middle East as much as it could,
	and not be a dependent state.
	This was new material for our show, and I thought it deserved to mention, since it isn't bullshit either.
	To a point, though, this is the kind of thing that sets the audience up to see if Dave, Smith, and Candice is telling the truth.
	Kind of like a seasoned fighter jabbing out to test the opponent's reaction time, speed, footwork, and so on.
	It's what is in fighting called an auto-set.
	And once you have someone in your auto-set, once you're in someone's auto-set, it's hard to extract from it.
	Even if you know better.
	And I think it's the kind of thing that works on their audience.
	For the fascists that already don't like the neocon ways or Israel, putting them in the same general group, which they rightfully belong in, with something that can be googled easily is a nice layup.
	So, credit.
	Okay, did he say the Venturian?
	What?
	Did he say the Venturian guard or something like that?
	No, no, no, the Vakud.
	The Vakud.
	I'm sorry, the Likud.
	The Likud.
	Yeah, the Likud or the Vanguard.
	Okay, I was getting the V from Vanguard.
	Okay.
	The Likud of the...
	He said the Likud or the Vanguard.
	Yeah, the Likud or the Vanguard.
	With Neocon...
	The only thing that came to my brain was some sort of fucking D&D session being played and names being distributed because of it.
	Right.
	But also the...
	What was one of the names of the writers?
	Oh, I don't have them written down.
	He only named two.
	There were actually three.
	The one with the really weird last name.
	I don't know.
	Honestly, I didn't see any point in writing down their names.
	He did get them right.
	He got the two of the three right.
	I was going to say that...
	The one, I kind of want to steal that last name for my D&D session.
	Go ahead.
	He's an asshole.
	He's a neocon asshole.
	Go ahead.
	I just got to know what it was.
	Just look up A Clean Break.
	Okay.
	Yeah, just look up A Clean Break 1996.
	It'll come up.
	Okay, cool.
	Doing that incognito because I fucked up my algorithm on YouTube from looking up things on Google normally.
	Yeah, bad idea.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, don't do that.
	I use DuckDuckGo for almost everything.
	So here's the next one.
	That's certainly a huge element to it.
	I mean, there's other elements, but that's a huge component of it.
	So Israel, very small country, like the size of New Jersey.
	How is it that that small country has been able to garner so much power?
	Over the American politicians, right?
	Over the American political scene.
	Forget politicians.
	We would also talk about the publications.
	There is clearly a neocon movement.
	The news stations, there is clearly a neocon movement.
	You just wonder, because I came at this truly as a conservative.
	I am a proud isolationist, so I have held the same perspective.
	I love Thomas Massey.
	He's my favorite congressman.
	That while our nation is in decline, we should not be sending any money overseas.
	And that was totally fine in the conservative movement.
	Like, everyone agreed with me, and everyone agreed with me on Afghanistan, and they agreed with me, kind of.
	Some neocons were actually very radically pro-Ukraine, even though they were trying to mask it.
	But then on the Israel stuff, they're just like, no, this is different, this is a different carve-out.
	And I'm going, why and how?
	And not just that it's, like, different, but that they immediately become the woke.
	Like, it's...
	Yeah, they become the woke.
	I just wanted to stop there for a beat.
	They're going to get more into this, but it's really just horseshoe theory here at work where they think the extreme right and the left in general are seen as two sides of the same horseshoe.
	Yeah.
	You know, when you're talking about neocons versus neolibs, that's basically what they are, you know, just two sides of the same coin.
	But, yeah, when he said they become the woke, I was just like, oh, come on, dude.
	So.
	Here's what's next.
	Not just that it's like, oh no, I think this is an exception, and here's my argument why.
	It's like, racist!
	Shut up, racist!
	And you're like, whoa!
	I thought that was the whole thing we were against.
	Yeah, I mean, I literally just said that the other day, that I think the woke right are the worst of all of them.
	I mean, like, it's more ridiculous than the woke left, even.
	And at least the woke left isn't, like, pretending to not be the woke left.
	That's why I actually hate the neocons more than I hate the left, because at least they're owning that this is what we do.
	Like, we will always use emotional arguments to talk about slavery.
	But the woke right pretends that they don't do that, and they believe in free speech and the best idea should win, unless it's an issue that they care about, then they're more woke than anybody else.
	Yeah, that's right.
	With the exact same tactics, just dismiss you, smear you, and also just the neocons, we were talking about this briefly before, but the thing that I hate so much about them is how much they also, like I'm old enough to remember.
	The George W. Bush years and the Barack Obama years really well.
	I remember them quite vividly.
	And every single neocon who had the support of every right-wing talk radio show host in America, like the entire...
	Conservatism, Inc., through all of the Bush years and all of the Obama years, had no problem demonizing Muslims in the most vicious ways.
	I mean, it was all...
	Oh, yeah, I mean, do you remember the biggest thing in the world was that they were putting a little mosque a few blocks away from where the World Trade Center had collapsed?
	They made this out, like, they're replacing the towers with a mosque, and all the Sharia law is coming to America, and when they were trying to sell them, They were fine with, like, be really worried about radical Islam.
	This was the big criticism of Obama from every dumb Marco Rubio Republican.
	He won't even say radical Islamic jihad or something.
	As Obama is dropping every bomb ever on the Muslim world, their complaint was that he's not going hard enough against radical Islam.
	And then, when Donald Trump rose up and was like, we don't need to be fighting these wars, we shouldn't have fought the war in Iraq, and then he goes, I want a ban on Muslim immigration into America.
	So, you know, whatever he said, until we figure out what's going on.
	Then they all turned around and went, racist!
	You evil racists!
	You can't demonize Muslims like this!
	And it was like, I remember you!
	You were just doing this five minutes ago!
	And likewise, like I was talking about, in 2004, when George W. Bush was trying to get re-elected, and it was a close election, and the war was already getting fairly unpopular, what they ran on...
	was a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
	They tried to find the wedge issues and then be on the conservative side of it and get the conservatives riled up and say, hey, we're going to be on your side for this so we can get re-elected.
	And then as soon as Donald Trump was the most popular thing, they became Democrats.
	And they went, look how racist these right-wingers are.
	They're coming after the LGBTQ community or whatever.
	They have no actual cultural beliefs.
	They just want the war powers.
	Yeah, so he's not wrong.
	But the same neocons that pushed for war in the Middle East, lots of war, publicly opposed the Muslim immigration ban that Trump tried to pull off.
	He also isn't wrong about the uproar of a large mosque that was going to be built a few blocks away from Ground Zero being a huge issue.
	And he isn't wrong about the uproar of a gay marriage being huge talking points on Fox News and among radio hosts like Limbaugh and Hannity and others.
	Those things were all pushed as issues for people to be worked up over almost 24-7 during the times they occupied in the past.
	They go on to discuss CNN personality Don Lemon and how he had changed over the years.
	And then we get into Kamala Harris a bit.
	Just recently, because Kamala Harris'track record has been coming up, and it is pretty funny how there was a...
	So, like, when I was younger, there was a...
	The Democrats were always racing to not be seen as wimpy liberals, because that had been the knock on them forever, particularly after, like, the 70s.
	There was a very bad crime.
	There had been bad crime in blue cities around America.
	Republicans were running as law and order candidates.
	Bill Clinton was a part of this, where they tried to race to the other side and be like, no, no, no, we're law and order Democrats.
	Look at this crime bill we just passed.
	We're going to throw all these people in jail.
	We're going to ramp up the mandatory minimums.
	And Kamala Harris was almost at the tail end of that as a prosecutor in California.
	She wasn't one of these progressive prosecutors.
	She was like a Reaganite, hardcore, oh, you got caught with marijuana, you're doing time, truancy laws, whatever it is, throw the book at them.
	But does anyone have any doubt that if Kamala Harris was a prosecutor today, she would just be one of the progressive prosecutors?
	Because that's what's in now.
	She doesn't actually have anything that she believes in other than just gaining power.
	So it's like nowadays she'd be like, hey, we can't arrest people for shoplifting.
	That's racism or whatever.
	And she's even saying things like that now.
	But then people go, but look at your track record.
	And it's really as simple as like, oh, that was the thing we were doing then.
	Like now we're doing this thing.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so this is just ignorance.
	I'm not going to defend all of Kamala's choices that she made as a DA, prosecutor, whatever, but among the harsh sentences, we also get things like the Open Justice Initiative, which is an online platform that provides access to criminal justice data, including stats on deaths and injuries in police custody.
	Harris also helped implement racial bias training that has become mandatory for police in California.
	Finally, on this short and not comprehensive list of accolades, She also implemented a program called Back on Track that allowed for first-time nonviolent offenders to receive rehab if needed and job training if needed to get their lives back together.
	They spent several minutes on how they felt about the Trump assassination attempt.
	Then Candace repeats more of her talking points about the book Chaos by Tom O 'Neill, which I won't torture people with here because we have such other delights to show you.
	Such as...
	And so it's been one of the most shocking things for me to, like, look back into American history because way too many times Alex Jones has been right.
	I want to say that right now.
	Alex Jones has been right way too many times, right?
	I am not comfortable with how many times Alex Jones, who I grew up thinking was a total psychopath, has been correct when you go watch the old clips and you're like, what the heck?
	How did he know that this was going to happen?
	Maybe he's just been awake for a very long time.
	Doesn't mean he's always right, but it does mean that he's been right too many times.
	The more that I peel back this onion and realize and challenge my conditioning from childhood, it's quite scary.
	It gets scary and it gets sinister because you realize when we're saying that these people worshipped Satan, literally there were people in American history that worshipped Satan and that's why I...
	Thoughts?
	It's almost as if...
	Satanic...
	Worship has been a thing for a while.
	And, you know, America's been around for an equal amount of time.
	Shit, there was entire burnings in Salem over supposed...
	Over some accusations.
	Yeah, over accusations of devil worship.
	Some usually erroneous accusations, yeah.
	But...
	Alex Jones won the...
	Oh, I have thoughts on the matter.
	God.
	Yeah.
	So was he right about the frogs being gay then?
	No.
	God, no.
	And, I mean...
	Yeah, so...
	Alex Jones, yeah.
	Yeah, you know, I try not to tread into Alex Jones' waters too much on here, because Knowledge Fight has done such a great job over the years of, like, just...
	Taking that man to task that, you know, it's the reason why we didn't bother going through the Alex Jones appearance on Candice's show because it was just an hour of him bloviating and her occasionally saying a sentence or two.
	It was utter bullshit and I didn't want to go through it.
	To that end, since I started really diving into our show, I haven't listened to Knowledge Fight.
	I'm still subscribed to them on Podcast Addict.
	But, like, I went to look the other day, I was like, man, how many have I missed?
	Yeah.
	I've missed, like, 90-something episodes.
	Jesus Christ.
	Because I just haven't, like, I don't have the time, you know?
	Like, I'm dealing with this show, and I'm dealing with listening to Candice and stuff, and so between listening to Candice and dealing with this show and occasionally catching up on other shows that I do like to listen to otherwise...
	Like, the most recent run of It Could Happen Here, or whenever Desperate Acts of Capitalism pushes up a new episode, or, you know, whatever.
	Whatever other shows I can kind of, like, listen to once and move on, I kind of do that with.
	Because, like, I used to listen to, like, eight hours of podcasts a day, but now, you know, I get free time, and I open up everything, and I start working on episodes.
	And so I really don't have the time to engage with that.
	And because I'm dealing with this bullshit...
	When I am listening to something in my car to get my mind off of it, I'm listening to music.
	Upbeat, high-tempo music.
	So that my brain is ready for the next round.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I named that quote, AJ is Charlie Brown.
	And that's a big nope.
	I think my favorite part about that line of thought is that if asked...
	Most people I've engaged with can't name a single thing Alex Jones was right about that wasn't already some sort of accepted truism, such as that someone would try to assassinate Trump, someone would try to take down the Twin Towers and possibly succeed,
	also that there would be school shootings with one of the easiest rightful platforms to handle that's ever been made, and so on.
	Like, fuck right off.
	Candace goes on to talk more with Dave about her whole Apollo program bullshit, and it's nothing new.
	He talks about Alistair Crowley, again, nothing new.
	She plays the Tucker Rogan clip again, nothing new, just playing the hits for a bit.
	And the interview is about midway through, so they're still getting loose.
	Dave Smith, of course, is just going along with everything.
	Candace and Dave find another simpatico in their feelings that, quote, the elites are all doing black magic religion and pushing atheism on everyone else to secure the darkness or whatever for themselves.
	It should be noted that they don't produce a single modern name.
	That got you?
	Trying to claim the darkness for themselves.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, they're like, oh, well, these elites, they push atheism on everybody, but clearly they're all doing black magic, and they're involved in all this shit, which, like I was saying, they don't,
	it should be noted, they don't produce a single modern name at all in any of this shit, which goes on for several minutes.
	And I have chosen to spare the audience the grief of this.
	I slog through it always the first time, and then again during clip cutting.
	You are all free to seek it out if you want, but there's nothing of substance here for about 20 minutes.
	Fucking hell.
	Yeah.
	Finally, we get into something almost new.
	Literally, I mean, there are still people, obviously, who are changing their lives in this direction.
	It's like, what is that if not a demonic possession?
	And I think for me, now I look at things like psychology, and when I studied Sigmund Freud, it's really scary how every person that we learn about in school...
	That they were a hero, was actually a pervert.
	No, it's terrifying to us.
	Basically, what's happening in the public school system is an inversion.
	It's like, you hated McCarthy.
	No, no, no, he knew what he was talking about.
	Communists were taking over the American government.
	You absolutely loved Sigmund Freud, this psychology breakthrough.
	It's like, no.
	This is when they realized that they could just use psychology to modify human behavior.
	Sigmund Freud, as a fact, I don't know if you know this, Sigmund Freud...
	Was a person who created psychoanalysis.
	This has got me in a lot of trouble with journalists a long time ago.
	And they, of course, didn't debunk anything I said.
	They just called me anti-semi because it's Jewish.
	Like, who cares?
	I didn't mention who cares if he's Jewish, right?
	He created psychoanalysis because he had a bunch of women that were coming to him saying that they were being raped by their fathers.
	He was friends with their fathers, okay?
	And so he created psychoanalysis to convince them that their memories were wrong and they were actually attracted to their fathers, okay?
	Sigmund Freud was a homosexual man.
	He had an affair.
	One of these such fathers was his best friend.
	I'm blanking on his last name, and I can probably look it up.
	He was another one of these men who, factually speaking, raped his son.
	His son spoke out about it.
	So we have to imagine whether or not it was real.
	And the only reason we know this about Sigmund Freud as a fact is because this guy who graduated Harvard became one of the executives or had a role at the Sigmund Freud Archive Center, whatever.
	Yeah, so Freud wasn't a homosexual.
	And aside from being married to a woman, he had six kids.
	Candace can't remember the name, so I looked it up.
	Robert Fleiss is who she was likely trying to name.
	He was the son of Wilhelm Fleiss, a close friend and collaborator of Freud.
	Robert was also a psychoanalyst.
	He hinted several times, but never came out and said that his father had done anything sexual with him.
	People that have read too much into his work, with a story to sniff out, have said this, but neither he nor his father ever said it, and that goes for anyone else in their circle.
	And of course, the man she is talking about at the end there was the project director of the archives of Sigmund Freud, and we discussed him in episode 14 or 15. Doesn't matter much because Candace's take is, of course, bullshit.
	As stated before, Freud didn't make an entire field of medicine to hide pedophilia.
	That's horseshit.
	He famously loved cocaine, which wasn't illegal during his life.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	When was he alive again?
	Oh, fuck me.
	The late 1800s, early 1900s.
	Yeah, no.
	It was still legal.
	Yeah, it was still very legal.
	It was legal in America until the 70s.
	As a matter of fact, I think Coca-Cola was still made with Coke.
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Famous myth.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It was made with cocaine at one point.
	There's a whole dollop on it.
	They did it, I think, when they did a dollop in Atlanta, because that's kind of the home of Coca-Cola.
	They did an entire episode about it there.
	And it's shocking.
	The modern-day Coca-Cola factory tour guides won't even talk about it.
	It was a part of the company's history.
	Yeah.
	But they won't discuss it.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	It's all kinds of fucked up and it's worth checking out.
	I don't know.
	If I was a tour guide, I'd feel required to go in with some powdered sugar in a little bag and just dab it up on my upper lip and just go, okay, now.
	I think that's when you're like, I want to get fired from this job.
	I need unemployment.
	I want to get fired from this job.
	I think that's when you do that.
	Because otherwise, I'm pretty sure they're running a tight ship over there.
	But one can always hope that maybe Coca-Cola one day, a super special version will come out.
	Who knows?
	Then we get into the next clip.
	Magnus Hirschfeld, who introduced transsexual...
	He was the first guy that came up with being transsexual.
	He was one of the fathers of transsexualism.
	And when you look into him, he was an awful guy.
	He was an awful pervert.
	Yeah, you know, they all were.
	He was like an awful, awful pervert.
	And it's like, why are we protecting so many people throughout history that were involved in really sinister, disgusting stuff?
	And not only are we protecting them, we are then reintroducing them as heroes.
	So if you look up Magnus Hirschfeld, he's introduced as a hero because now we're back at the trans stuff.
	If you look up...
	Okay, so this is something that Candace says a lot.
	And it's honestly some of the most puerile Nazi shit.
	One of the more famous Nazi
	book burnings was the work of Magnus Hirschfeld.
	Now, when Candace talked about this in a previous episode, she said that it was student protesters.
	While failing to mention that those student protesters were brown shirts.
	Ah, that, um...
	That kind of complicates things a little.
	A little bit, yeah.
	So yeah, Magnus Hirschfeld began the world's first LGBTQ organization.
	He did do gender affirmation surgeries.
	He did coin terms such as transvestite and transsexual.
	And he was way ahead of his time, pushing for the normalization of relaxed gender norms in society.
	He was not a pedophile or a rapist, and was generally well-liked by those who knew him.
	The Nazis, of course, said different things.
	Yeah.
	And they are the kind of things that Candace Owens spouts off without ever being able to prove them.
	Part of this may be that, like Freud, Magnus Hirschfeld was also Jewish by blood.
	And, you know, Candace is a theocratic fascist.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway, in the next clip...
	Dave isn't wrong.
	We'll talk about, like, how evil these Muslims are and how, you know, like, how terrorist the Palestinians are.
	It's like, hey, listen, just like, before you go judging a whole group of people on these standards, just at least be fair here and go, look, like, we had one 9-11 and we responded this way.
	Imagine that was your whole life.
	Like, your entire life.
	You know, it's like, it's not to say, like...
	You know, that doesn't mean like, oh, you're justifying Hamas or something like that.
	I'm just saying, at least think about this, okay?
	Those people in Hamas who broke out of Gaza on October 7th, almost all of them, maybe there's an exception here, but I almost guarantee that every last one of them, that was their first time ever leaving Gaza.
	They had never been outside this five-mile-wide prison.
	You know what I mean?
	Just think about that for a second.
	Okay.
	Now, so, as he said, not to excuse the violence at all, but the people being held in Gaza that led a revolt that night in October of 2023, most of them were probably born in Gaza in a concentration camp zone.
	They had never committed crimes against Israel.
	Their only crime was being born in Gaza to Palestinian parents and then being forced to only live there.
	Visas to travel outside of Gaza are basically a matter of luck to obtain.
	And once you have one, it's a further matter of luck to be able to use it within the time frame that you have.
	It is truly fucked up.
	It is rare for a married couple to leave and even more rare for a family.
	And that was the case before October 7th, 2023.
	It is, of course, much worse now.
	So if we're still following the fistfight analogy from earlier, that was a couple of jabs.
	Here's another one.
	One of the things that's really interesting about this, right?
	Okay, so that clip that we just looked at, that was the most controversial moment of that podcast when Tucker came out against dropping nukes on cities.
	So you kind of have to ask yourself, okay, well listen, why would that be the case?
	I mean, why would it be so radioactive?
	Because they're planning to do it again.
	Well, I mean, I think that...
	The point you were making before, I mean, it cannot be overstated how much World War II is the origin story of the American Empire.
	And how this is so, and like you said, not just neocons.
	This is like hardwired.
	It's been so deeply propagandized into people that they have to, I mean, if you start questioning World War II, that's like, yo, what are you doing?
	And I could question World War I. No reaction.
	We never should have fought World War I, which we shouldn't have fought, but we never should have fought World War I. We never should have fought whatever, any other war.
	You could talk about it.
	Vietnam?
	No problem.
	Iraq?
	Obviously we shouldn't have fought Iraq.
	Everyone will admit this.
	But World War II is like a different thing.
	And I know, just to be clear here, because people are always like, are you implying that, like, I'm not implying anything.
	Doesn't matter if they're going to write the article anyway.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't care.
	But just for anyone who's honestly interested, like, no, I'm not implying that.
	Listen.
	Part of the reason why World War II works as this, like, origin myth is because the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese are really good villains.
	Like, it's really, like, it's really easy to make them the villains because they were really, really evil regimes.
	But the point is that, how many people today, when you're just talking, I mean, regular people I'm talking about, when you're just talking about the war in Gaza is the first thing they go to.
	We killed a whole lot of people in World War II.
	I mean, was that not justified?
	But the answer already answers itself.
	They're not even asking the question.
	Obviously, the starting point is, well, that was justified, so why isn't this?
	I mean, Bobby Kennedy literally said this to me.
	When I'm talking to him about the Israel situation, he goes, listen, the Nazis, you're like, wait, we're comparing Hamas to the Nazis?
	It just makes absolutely no sense.
	But the thing is like this.
	So he isn't entirely unreasonable here either.
	He mentioned there, talking with RFK Jr., who has established himself as someone that can be taken seriously, so I don't really care what he has to say about much, but sure, war is bad, okay?
	Yeah.
	I can agree with that, generally with specifically fighting fascists being an exception.
	But what starts to come next are the wild haymaker punches from Dave.
	World War II, and by the way, if you haven't, and anyone listening too, you've got to read Pat Buchanan's book on World War II.
	It's called Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
	It's just an incredible book.
	The real deal is that World War II is, objectively speaking, the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the world.
	That's what it is.
	It's the worst thing.
	The biggest mass murder campaign in human history destroyed Europe.
	The foundation of Western civilization just absolutely destroyed tens and tens and tens of millions of people.
	Just all lost their lives.
	And the truth is, and if you go read Pat Buchanan's book, you see this.
	There were off-ramps.
	All over the place.
	Like in the whole lead up to the war.
	It's like we could have gotten off here.
	We could have gotten off here.
	And the only lesson from history that you're ever allowed to learn, which they will say to you all the time, is what?
	Is appeasement.
	Oh, you're Neville Chamberlain.
	You ever don't want to fight a war?
	You're Neville Chamberlain.
	Oh, look at you.
	You probably would have wanted to appease Adolf Hitler.
	Oh, you don't want to fight a proxy war in Ukraine against Vladimir Putin?
	You're Chamberlain.
	You would have appeased Hitler.
	You would have given him Yugoslavia.
	It's like, oh, you don't want to fight a war in Iraq?
	This is the only lesson you're supposed to learn.
	That's why whenever somebody wants to call you evil, the first thing they say is Adolf Hitler.
	He's the only person that's been put in the American mindset as a reference point when you want to call somebody.
	It's like, she's literally Hitler.
	And I have felt that heat since doing the show because I've introduced other facts about World War II that Americans don't know.
	So I shared the documentary, which I said everyone should watch this as a baseline because it threw me for a loop and I realized how severely propagandized it was about World War II.
	That's, again, not to say that I'm...
	We went after people who were not Nazis.
	We went after people who were not even Germans.
	They were just German-speaking.
	We just went after these innocent civilians, lined up their children, shot them, ran over their legs for the crime of them speaking German.
	So, Candace...
	Jumped in because I think she felt the vacuum of not hearing her own voice for a while.
	And we've discussed the bullshit she's been peddling, so I'm not engaging with that right now.
	We're going to talk about Dave mentioning Pat Buchanan in his book.
	For those unaware, Buchanan is a fucking lunatic.
	He has been pro-Nazi for much of his political career, and has authored several books, all of them being revisionist history, and this book is no exception.
	Buchanan has run for the office of president several times, but he's been seen as too extreme in the past and hasn't gotten far.
	He's been seen as too extreme by the Republicans.
	Jesus.
	Yeah.
	These days, though, who knows?
	Anyway, Buchanan argues in this book that he mentioned that Hitler made peace offers to Britain prior to attacking Poland that Britain rejected.
	Poland had a guarantee of support from the UK, and when Germany attacked them, they made good on their promise.
	Buchanan argues that had Britain accepted Hitler's offer of peace and allowed Poland to suffer, that Britain would have been spared the wrath of the Nazis.
	He claims that Hitler never wanted a war with the UK, seeing them as a sort of ideological brother to his fascist regime.
	He says the evidence to support this is that Germany didn't build up a navy to really hit the UK.
	Never mind the Nazi armada.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, though, there is no evidence to support Buchanan's claims, which is typical for his work.
	To sum it up, he argues that had the UK played nice with the Nazis, they wouldn't have had to enter the war, and it would have been a peaceful fall into oblivion for most of the rest of Europe.
	What comes next is familiar to those of you that have been listening to this show for some time, and I debated cutting it.
	I chose to keep it in.
	Because it immediately follows the clip that we just heard.
	And I want you all to hear the ramp up as these two ding-dongs yes and each other.
	It's so...
	Uh-huh.
	Before we get into that yes.
	The...
	Okay.
	So the guy that is deemed as too extreme.
	I already forgot his name.
	Pap Buchanan.
	Okay.
	I didn't forget his name.
	Okay.
	Pap Buchanan.
	I wish history would forget him, but go on.
	Yeah.
	Well, Papi Gannon, is he basically saying that World War II is not Hitler's fault, but Britain's fault?
	Pretty much.
	And then by proxy, ours.
	Yeah.
	Here's the deal, though.
	I'm not sure if I get into it later on in the script or not, but...
	Yeah, the reason why Churchill called World War II an unnecessary war...
	Yeah.
	It's because they could have stopped Hitler at any point.
	Okay.
	And because, you know, Churchill kind of asserted that because he came in too late and the British didn't act early enough that Hitler just thought he could just, you know, be Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, the thing is, though, is that what I don't think they're really reckoning with here Is that fascism as it is, you know, if the Nazis had not gone out to do their fascism, they would have fallen from within.
	Yeah.
	You know, because it relies on war.
	It relies on conquest and expansion and, you know, using people as chattel slaves like they did with the Jews and the others in the concentration camps and the death camps.
	You know, like, it relies on way too much.
	Yeah.
	Germany would have fallen due to its own isolationism.
	It could have gone very differently.
	Yeah.
	That's why Hitler said it was unnecessary because the right people did not act at the right time.
	Churchill, you mean?
	Yeah, Churchill.
	Churchill said that because the right things were not done at the right times, even when there was plenty of warning, they didn't act.
	It built up to what it built up to and why they had to act eventually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So...
	Yeah.
	Let's get into the next one.
	Now, I've named this clip for obvious reasons that I just described.
	Same old Candace.
	Okay.
	That is wild, and it's an important thing for you to understand, because if that is how we behaved in peacetime, 12 million German-speaking civilians who were ethnically cleansed, if you find a single person that is trying to justify that by saying their stupid phrases that neocons say,
	well, you know, war is hell, shut up.
	Just shut up right now, because just know that that...
	I love that.
	I love that's my favorite argument.
	Well, you know, when they've lost everything else, when they have no moral arguments, then they're just like...
	You're like, hey, this four-year-old got shot for no reason.
	They're like, war is hell.
	Actually, I'm quite comfortable.
	I love that argument.
	Okay, so war is hell.
	That's right.
	So I'm glad we've established that you are pro-hell.
	Yeah.
	And I am anti-help.
	Yeah, I'm anti-help.
	So, yes.
	That's my problem.
	So there we go.
	And they make it seem like we're the monsters.
	And I'm like, it's important.
	And the amount of people that have reached out to me, it's so sad.
	Because think about this.
	This happened to people for the crime of speaking German.
	And nothing of Nazis didn't vote for.
	Not even the majority of Germans voted for Adolf Hitler, obviously.
	Right, right.
	And I think it was like, what, 30%?
	And then he was like installed, essentially.
	But the point being is that you had these people who had lived in that land forever, ethnically cleansed, 12 million people.
	And when I saw it, how horrific what was done with them.
	Because it was actually footage.
	And it's so shocking.
	And then I had people reaching out to me from Germany saying like, thank you so much for covering this because we're not even allowed to talk about it because then they passed speech laws.
	So if you said anything that stepped outside of the bounds of the World War II established narrative, right?
	Allies, good, always, no matter what, even after the war when we were ethnically, we let Stalin just go in there and rape a bunch of women.
	Yeah, Stalin, Stalin, the Soviet Union and the British Empire, the forces for good in the world.
	Yeah, that even makes sense.
	I'm like, wait a second, Stalin?
	What are we talking about?
	These are mass murdering Christians.
	And I never even questioned that when I was growing up because, again, we've been so removed from our Christian faith.
	We don't even think about it because who was doing the World War propaganda?
	Who was running the government?
	Edward Bernays.
	Edward Bernays, they established for the first time ever a propaganda arm in our government.
	And Edward Bernays was running the program to basically psychologically convince us to only go Nazi bad, Nazi bad, Nazi bad, inspiring us to sign up to kill some Nazis.
	We stopped seeing each other as Christians.
	We stopped seeing each other as human beings.
	apart was like you no longer need to think of german civilians these czechoslovakian civilians as civilians anymore because it's everything we do now is about killing nazis so what we did in dresden an objective war crime and any person that says otherwise is a monster and stop
	listening to them like incinerating catholics on the eve of they're running around and you've got you've got ash on your forehead like on the eve of ash wednesday
	And you look at that and all through the day of Ash Wednesday, and you have people that will try to justify that.
	Like, Dresden was not a city that needed to be firebombed at all.
	So when you look at that and you hear people say that, and still today we carry that same propaganda, Nazi badge, no matter what we did, even if we had to rape and kill children and women, which we did, we allowed solid men to do that, it's all acceptable because, da-da-da-da-da, war is hell.
	See, I just wanted to know something.
	War is hell.
	Oh, well, it's like, oh, I guess the argument's over then.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, then it's okay, I guess.
	Okay, well, to that last bit there.
	Stalin's men just sounds like a Stalin problem, for one.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	Has been handled already.
	Yeah.
	Given, you know, Stalin's current state of health.
	Yeah.
	But...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was not America.
	No.
	That was not Britain.
	That was the Soviets.
	Yeah.
	Also, the propaganda arm bit.
	Have these motherfuckers never heard of...
	Fucking Revolutionary War.
	If you want to talk about the start of American propaganda for a war, that's the first one that comes to my mind is fucking Franklin pumping out the don't tread on me.
	Yeah, I mean, there's the fact that war among nations is a massive effort.
	Yeah.
	Putting up posters to be like, hey, join the army, or Save supplies or whatever.
	That's not new.
	There's nothing new about that.
	Bernays was like a corporate stooge by the time of World War II.
	He did his job in World War I. If you want to focus on Bernays being a propaganda master and getting guys to sign up for an unnecessary fucking war, World War I, fine.
	We can agree on that.
	Fuck, you know, money bonds and shit.
	Yeah, I mean, there's like 20 years between those wars.
	He had moved on with his life.
	Yeah.
	Now, it could have been that people that studied his methods were working, you know, in the propaganda arm for the government.
	Sure.
	I'll allow for that.
	I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
	Yeah.
	But Bernays was not crafting, you know, fucking war strategies.
	He was trying to figure out how to sell cigarettes.
	Yeah.
	But, again...
	That never comes up.
	That never comes up with her.
	Bernays' record with cigarettes that undoubtedly killed way more people over way more decades never fucking comes up.
	Yeah.
	Or the fact of pushing it specifically for women at one point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like getting women to smoke and making women smoking socially acceptable.
	Mm-hmm.
	Like, fuck off with this shit.
	Yeah.
	Now, for new listeners, and I'll grant that that might be a thing that actually occurs, Candace talks about all this shit in almost every episode.
	But some basic facts.
	12 million Germans were not killed after World War II.
	No.
	The number was closer to 500,000 and possibly up to 2 million across all of Europe, which is a lot of space.
	The heaviest deaths occurred in places like Czechoslovakia which had been a Nazi hotbed during the war.
	People turned on their neighbors that had been Nazi supporters or sympathizers or soldiers.
	German is the main language of several countries in Europe even today so no one was being arrested in German-speaking countries for speaking German.
	They were being arrested for their ties to the Nazis.
	Some people were said to have been innocent, swept up in the purges regardless of affiliation.
	While that's unfortunate, the number of deaths post-World War II is not 12 million killed.
	Now that said, the war did ruin a lot of farmland for several years.
	A lot of food animals had been killed, fishing boats had been destroyed during the war, so there was some starvation and it took a while for countries to come back from the damage.
	The United States, despite being a victor, had its own post-World War II troubles to shake off, and I don't think it was our place to go save former Nazis from the people they suppressed.
	As for the bit about Edward Bernays, his propaganda work was in World War I. Also, no one much gave a shit if someone called themselves a Christian if they were getting shot at by them.
	Because despite religion, the people on the Nazi side were part of a vast war machine that didn't give a solid shit about who they were killing most of the time.
	We look back on them as monsters for a lot of very good reasons.
	If Candace really believed this particular angle, then she should take issue with other things we've discussed before, such as the right church slash positive Christianity.
	And the fact that the Nazis, despite calling themselves Christians, were definitely acting against religious principles.
	Yeah.
	But as we know now, based on the last clip of our last episode, as a theocratic fascist, she probably doesn't take issue with their actions.
	As for the bombing of Dresden, it's a point of debate these days as much as it was then.
	But Dresden was a major producer of items for the Nazi Wehrmacht, with over a hundred factories literally producing things like guns, ammo, Tanks?
	Tractors?
	Yeah.
	So it would have been extremely tough to just roll in and take that.
	I'm not defending the bombing, but I understand why it was done.
	As for Germans not being allowed to discuss this stuff, that's also bullshit.
	They are allowed to discuss these things in Germany.
	Even immediately after the war, they were allowed to discuss these things.
	What they were not allowed to do in any sense...
	Was talk about trying it again.
	I wonder why.
	Yeah.
	There is a difference between lamenting and plotting.
	They were allowed to grieve, and to be honest about the history, and they still are allowed to do so.
	Now, Dave Smith is about to tell us all, and Candace, about a short film.
	Oh, there we go.
	About a short film that came out at the end of World War II.
	I guess the argument's over then.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, then it's okay, I guess.
	Well, there's a...
	By the way, you should...
	Have you ever seen Hitler Lives?
	No.
	Okay, so Hitler Lives is a piece of American propaganda in the wake of World War II.
	It was written by Dr. Seuss.
	It is like straight up...
	This is what the propaganda at the time was.
	And so in the immediate wake of World War II, one of the things that's interesting is that they do not mention...
	The Holocaust?
	Or Jews?
	That doesn't even come up.
	The whole thing is about what an evil race the German people are.
	And how we better keep our eyes on them because they already did this twice and they're going to do this again.
	So keep your eyes on these filthy Germans.
	If you tell the story of what was said about the Germans leading up to this, they don't like this.
	So there was an entire book written about how they needed to ethnically cleanse the Germans before World War II.
	It was written by a man named Theodore Kaufman.
	And I want to get the exact name of that book correctly because God...
	As I write this, and this was from earlier, I just downloaded this film from the Internet Archive via Torrent.
	Anyway, basic fact-checking on Dave's claims, which he should know, as a person putting this out there, is that this movie, Hitler Lives, was not written by Dr. Seuss.
	It is based on a work that Dr. Seuss, a.k.a.
	Theodor Geisel, wrote during the end of the war called Your Job in Germany.
	I've copied the links to both and they'll be posted with the episode.
	For patrons, I'll see if I can upload the videos along with this episode.
	They are in MP4 format.
	I recommend VLC Media Player or whatever your MP4 player of choice is.
	VLC's fucking free.
	Across all platforms.
	Except for Apple.
	I don't know about that.
	Fuck those guys.
	My take...
	On your job in Germany, which me and Matthew just watched, actually.
	I saw it the second time.
	He saw it for the first time.
	Yeah.
	We just watched, is that it was probably effective.
	Yeah.
	There are obvious elements of Seuss in there, but it's not goofy.
	It was meant to be a film reminding soldiers that they were an occupying force on a country that had just been beaten after taking on several world powers.
	The soldiers, American soldiers, because it's a Department of the Army film, the soldiers were warned to be on their own best behavior, obey local laws, don't argue with Germans, and don't befriend them either.
	Now, the other short film, Hitler Lives, was meant for the general populace.
	I think it is more effective as an information piece.
	Most of the Dr. Seuss script is still there.
	But it is added on in a pretty good way, and the way it was added on to as well, the film actually won an Oscar for Best Short Film in like 1948 or something.
	It might have been 1946, I don't remember which.
	Anyway, it won Best Short Film, and the writer of it won awards as well.
	A different writer is credited.
	Okay.
	Because while they do use a lot of elements from the Army film, They add on to it significantly.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I highly recommend checking them both out.
	I'll say my streaming from the archive site wasn't that good, but downloading the films fixed that issue.
	I archive everything I can with this show, so I was probably going to download them anyway.
	The films existed as a reminder to people that there was still a threat posed by the remainder of soldiers and loyalists.
	And that remainder existed here in America as well.
	I have had some time to think about this, and I think that for the purposes of this show, we're going to play the civilian version of this film.
	You will all hear the audio, but I encourage you to take advantage of the links I'm providing, and not only check it out for yourselves, but save it.
	If you don't wish to hear this, skip ahead on the podcast for about 18 minutes.
	Again, the footage they show in this is effective.
	In my opinion, it is watching at least once.
	So I'm going to pull that up now.
	See. See.
	you and
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I'll just have to come back to that.
	And I believe it's in...
	Downloads.
	There it is.
	Okay, everybody.
	Get ready for Hitler Lives.
	Now, this is an old film.
	Matthew has not seen it yet.
	Yeah.
	This is an old, like, 1940s era thing.
	So the audio, I'm going to try to turn it down a little bit so it doesn't completely murder y 'all.
	And I'll try to talk over points where they're just showing signs.
	Okay?
	But that's it.
	Otherwise, we're just going to let this play for itself.
	The Royal Brothers Pictures, Inc.
	presents Hitler Lives.
	Screenplay by Saul Elkins.
	Narrated by Knox Manning.
	Music by William Lotto.
	It shows the Liberty Bell swinging.
	War with Germany ends in victory.
	War with Germany ends in victory.
	Victory leads to peace.
	Sometimes not.
	The problem now is future peace.
	Just as American soldiers had to give their lives in the last generation, so other American soldiers, our sons, might have to do it again in the next generation.
	Germany today appears to be beaten.
	Hitler, out.
	Swastikas, gone.
	Nazi propaganda off the air.
	Concentration camps empty.
	There are ruins.
	There are flowers.
	There's some mighty pretty scenery.
	Don't let it fool us.
	It's still enemy country.
	We must still be alert.
	We must still be suspicious of everyone.
	We must take no chances.
	We're up against something more than tourist scenery.
	We're up against German history.
	It isn't good.
	This book was written chapter by chapter, not by one man nor one Fuhrer.
	It was written by the German people.
	Chapter one, the Fuhrer, Bismarck.
	The title, Blood and Iron.
	The armies, German.
	Under the Prussian Bismarck, the German Empire was built.
	The German states combined, serving notice to all that their religion was iron and that their god was blood.
	Bismarck's German Empire built itself by war.
	At the expense of Denmark, Austria, and France, it became in 1871 the mightiest power in all Europe.
	Enough conquest for a while.
	Time out to digest it.
	Europe relaxes.
	The danger's over.
	Nice country, Germany.
	Tender people, the Germans.
	Very sweet music, indeed.
	Chapter 2. A new Führer.
	Kaiser Wilhelm.
	New title.
	Deutschland über alles.
	Germany over all.
	And the same tender German people slapped us with their World War I against Serbia, Russia, France, Belgium, Italy,
	Britain, and the United States of America.
	It took all of us to do it.
	But we finally knocked that Fuhrer out, defeated the German armies.
	Second chapter ended.
	We marched straight into Germany and said, these people are okay.
	It was just the Kaiser we had to get rid of.
	You know, this is really some country.
	When it comes to culture, they lead the whole world.
	We bit.
	We poured in our sympathy.
	We pulled out our armies and they flung chapter three in our faces.
	Führer number three.
	Slogan number three.
	Today, Germany is ours.
	Tomorrow, the whole world.
	And the tender, sorry German people carried the torch of their culture to Austria.
	Czechoslovakia.
	Poland, France, England, Norway, Holland, Denmark,
	Belgium, Luxembourg, Russia, Yugoslavia,
	And the United States of America.
	We almost lost this one.
	It took everything we had.
	Measure the cost in money.
	There isn't that much money.
	Measure the cost in lives.
	You can only guess at that figure.
	It took burning, scalding, drenching.
	It took legs, fingers, arms.
	And it took them by the millions.
	It cost hours, days, and years that will never return.
	It ruined the health and wealth of our youth.
	Their past and their future.
	It took every ounce of our courage and guts.
	Now what happens?
	Oh, this is where we came in.
	Yeah, this is where we came in.
	And chapter four will be, it can happen again.
	Could be the next war.
	That's why we occupy Germany.
	To make that war impossible.
	No easy job.
	We must keep our wits about us.
	The German lust for conquest is not dead.
	It's merely gone undercover.
	Somewhere in this Germany are the SS guards, the Schutztrooper, the Gestapo gangsters out of uniform.
	Somewhere in this Germany are stormtroopers by the thousands.
	Out of sight.
	Out of the mob.
	Somewhere in this Germany, there are two million ex-Nazi officials out of power, but still in there thinking and thinking about next time.
	Remember that only yesterday, every business, every profession was part of Hitler's system.
	The doctors, technicians, clockmakers, postmen, farmers, housekeepers, toy makers, barbers.
	Cooks, dock workers.
	Practically every German was part of the Nazi network.
	We must guard particularly against this group.
	These are the most dangerous.
	German youth.
	Children when the Nazi party came into power.
	They know no other system but the one that poisoned their minds.
	They're soaked in it.
	Trained to win by cheating.
	Trained to pick on the weak.
	They've heard no free speeches, read no free press.
	They were brought up on straight propaganda, production of the worst educational crime in the history of the world.
	Practically everything we believe in, they've been trained to hate and destroy.
	They believe they were born to be masters and that we are inferiors designed to be their slaves.
	They may deny it now, but they believe it and will try to prove it again.
	And that's what we must prevent.
	However free of the Nazi party they may seem, however sorry, however sick of it, they cannot come back into the civilized world just by sticking out their hand and saying, we're sorry.
	Not sorry they caused the war, but only sorry they lost it.
	That's the hand that heiled Adolf Hitler.
	That's the hand that held the whip over the Polish, Yugoslav, French, and Norwegian slaves.
	That is the hand that took the food.
	That is the hand that starved them.
	That is the hand that murdered, massacred Greeks, Czechs, Russians.
	That is the hand that killed and crippled American soldiers, sailors, marines.
	That's the hand of a nation dedicated to a career of hate and the ruthless use of force.
	Sired by sneering, strutting men and bristling lords of war, the plan of a new order, yet older than slavery in ancient Egypt, the plan of perverted propaganda, of pomp and power, of monstrous military might.
	Mighty with the blood drained from children of the conquered countries to replenish the life of the wounded heroes of the German Wehrmacht.
	No place in their plan for pity or mercy, but murder had a place in the snow at Malmedy, in a field of horror where 115 Americans were deliberately massacred.
	And where the scorched earth turned red with Russian blood, a mother's agony fitted the scheme of triumph over helpless hostages.
	These were the hobnailed pleasures, the unspeakable shame of German superiority over adolescent girls, manhandled and half-stripped.
	From sin to sacrilege, sparing neither the churches nor the ministers dedicated to the service of God.
	Of 2,300 priests in only one of the concentration camps, a full 1,000 were arbitrarily put to death.
	This was a Nazi nightmare of misery, their malignant masterpiece.
	An entire generation of children conditioned to the sight of dead parents, tortured brothers, violated sisters.
	Everywhere the ghastly, gruesome gauntlet of plague and the tragic, haunted faces of the ghetto that recall the horrors of the Middle Ages and the medieval tortures of the Inquisition.
	And while the vanquished wept, remembering home and holy graces, those who worshipped force in all the Nazi doctrines cried Heil, proclaiming German ambitions to dominate the world, and strewed the path with flowers to fragrance boots bestinched by blood,
	approving war as the most august and sacred of human activities.
	Exalting in a creed that proclaimed the deliberate extermination and monstrous mass murder of all who stood in the way of German plans for supremacy.
	From the chimneys of Mudeneck belched the stink of 1920 bodies burnt every 24 hours, amassing a total of 1,380,000 victims in this one camp alone.
	And with typical German efficiency, the ashes of the burnt bodies were mixed with manure to enrich the soil and raise a crop of cabbages grown with human fertilizer that once was someone's husband, wife, and child.
	The stark testimony of their fate in the bulging warehouses, where 820,000 pairs of shoes were counted, where all the pitiful belongings of their victims became the useful property of the Nazi Reich.
	Even the pathetic tokens of childhood methodically listed and sorted for shipment to Germany.
	From Poland, Russia, France, Greece, Holland, Denmark...
	From every nation where men lived in hope of freedom, now nothing remains but a mute paper passport, a mockery of a man's ambitions, the folly of a woman's dreams, the tragic finish of a child's fate.
	They must not be betrayed by those who hope to secure peace by forgetting war.
	The voices of millions of dead cry out, this time we must not have died in vain.
	This time, Germany must not rise again.
	There are millions of Germans.
	Some of these guys must be okay.
	Perhaps, but which ones?
	It isn't the few.
	The problem is the many.
	Someday, the German people might be cured of their disease, the super race disease, the world conquest disease.
	But they must prove that they've been cured beyond the shadow of a doubt before they ever again are allowed to take their place among the respectable nations.
	This is what must be remembered by misty-eyed sentimentalists, by soft citizens who speak of a soft peace.
	We are determined that German plans for world conquest shall stop here and now.
	We are determined that they shall never again use peaceful industries for war-like purposes.
	That our children shall never face this German terror.
	That the vicious German cycle of war...
	Phony peace.
	War.
	Phony peace.
	War.
	Phony peace shall once and for all time come to an end, for the disappearance of Hitler and all his henchmen is not enough.
	Though Berchtesgaden is but an empty shell that marks the heights to which a rabble rouser could rise from obscurity, the ghosts of Berchtesgaden still walk.
	Right here in America, the evil spirits of these ghosts still haunt us, wearing many guises as they continue with Hitler's aims and purposes.
	Spreading the violent propaganda of race hatred and violence.
	And the seeds spread by these disordered minds unfortunately are taking root in many fanatical brains.
	Like Hitler's gang, they thrive on persecution, hatred, and violence.
	They hope for reconversion to be handled badly.
	They hope for unemployment.
	They hope that America will fail in solving the crucial post-war problems.
	They hope for a disillusioned America so that they may set up their own messiah, just as Hitler was set up out of internal conflict and anxiety to breed race, hatred, and violence.
	These are verily the ghosts of Berchtesgaden here in America, working secretly and openly all the way from the floors of Congress through every walk of our nation's life, even desecrating the holy cloth.
	posing as men of God while they seek to destroy the hopes of humanity.
	In this crucial time, we, the people of America, hold our future and our children's future in our own hands.
	And no small men must be permitted to destroy our sound American thinking, our democratic heritage of national unity.
	They tried it here, in America, took American children and tried to instill the same evil spirit of fascism here with brazen contempt as they flaunted their so-called superior system in our very faces, as they practiced for the day when they would rule America.
	Tried to break down the democratic ideals of the youth of our nation, where children of all races can meet on common ground, inspired by a heritage of clean living and the principles of fair play and honor.
	The youth of our nation must not be suppressed.
	A child in this country must have the right to be a child while undertaking the other job of growing up to be an adult.
	The youth of our nation must not be regimented and pressed into the mold of pack-carrying, goose-stepping soldiers.
	And to defeat them, it took those who loved freedom.
	On the field of battle against fascism in Italy, Germany, and Japan, it was men of all faith who fought and died together that we might live.
	They fought side by side without questioning the color of their skins or the religions
	And it's not enough that the representatives of the united world of tomorrow...
	Be dedicated to the task of making good the sacrifices of free men who hope to build a better world.
	The people themselves must stand by these leaders.
	We must so earnestly desire peace that we will not only demand it but work for it incessantly.
	Then only, out of the solemn hours of deliberation, will be created a sound and practical international unity.
	Dedicated to the ideals of freedom, greatness, and security for all.
	A heritage that shall be guaranteed for the sons and daughters of the men, living and dead, who so truly earn the fruits their children are entitled to reap in the united world of tomorrow.
	The world of lasting freedom between all nations.
	The world of lasting freedom between all nations.
	Yeah, so, that was Hitler Lives.
	I'm gonna get back into our clip ride here, and...
	So yeah, y 'all just heard the film.
	Let's play Dave Smith's take one more time.
	I guess the argument's over, then.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, then it's okay, I guess.
	Well, there's a...
	By the way, you should...
	Have you ever seen Hitler Lives?
	No.
	Okay, so...
	Hitler Lives is a piece of American propaganda in the wake of World War II.
	It was written by Dr. Seuss.
	Nope.
	It is straight up...
	This is what the propaganda at the time was.
	In the immediate wake of World War II, one of the things that's interesting is that they do not mention the Holocaust or Jews.
	Here's the thing.
	They don't mention the Holocaust or the Jews specifically.
	They mention that people were taken from Norway, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland.
	They mention all the countries that people were taken from.
	Because that's what matters.
	It mattered less overall that these were Jewish people and these were citizens.
	These were sovereign citizens of these countries.
	Yeah.
	That we're forced into concentration camps.
	Yeah, on trains to places like Dachau and Auschwitz and all the others.
	And if all you've done now is just listen to that, what you should know is that in the film, they show some of the ovens with the bodies in them.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	They show some of the ovens with the bodies.
	They show the dead in a lot of these fields.
	Not just Jewish folks, but also citizens.
	They show bombed out churches.
	The hanging civilians.
	Yeah.
	They show dead priests.
	The starved to death practically look like they were mummified, barely buried in the ground.
	Skin and bones.
	Yeah.
	It's a powerful movie.
	It's hard to forget.
	I don't think Dave saw this fucking film.
	Let's play the rest of his shit take.
	It's only a little bit.
	That doesn't even come up.
	The whole thing is about what an evil race the German people are.
	And how we better keep our eyes on them because they already did this twice and they're going to do this again.
	So keep your eyes on these, like, filthy Germans.
	Well, that's what they don't like.
	When you tell the story of what was said about the Germans leading up to this, they don't like this.
	So there was an entire book written about how they needed to ethnically cleanse the Germans before World War II.
	It was written by a man named Theodore Kaufman.
	And I want to get the exact name of that book correctly because God...
	Also, um...
	Yeah.
	It was three times, not two times?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because it was...
	The, you know, whoever, Bismarck, and then the Kaiser from World War I. Bismarck in the 1870s, in the 1800s, late 1800s, rather.
	Then the Kaiser.
	Yeah.
	Then fucking Hitler.
	Yeah, so that was three times.
	Three times.
	I guess if you're a fascist, Hitler maybe doesn't count.
	Also the Bismarck.
	I do love how they pronounced fascism there.
	Yeah, fascism.
	I was like, I wonder where that came from.
	But I'm also on the cusp of...
	Do I just call it that from now on?
	It sounds...
	Fascism.
	Fascism, yeah.
	It feels like it would piss off a fascist.
	I would hope so.
	Maybe that's why they did it.
	Maybe.
	It's like...
	How do I pronounce this?
	Oh, tell them it's fascism.
	That'll really piss them off.
	It's fascism, Dave.
	Thanks.
	Fascism.
	It sounds weird.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah.
	It's like if you walk into an anime convention and just go, oh yeah, Naruto.
	Oh, I say Naruto.
	Yeah.
	Is that right?
	That's right.
	Oh god, no.
	I was...
	Naruto.
	Naruto.
	That's the incorrect one, yeah.
	Well, because I didn't have anybody around me that watched it.
	Yeah.
	And I didn't watch it, so I just thought it was Naruto.
	And then somebody's like, it's Naruto.
	I was like, are you sure?
	I watched the show.
	Yeah, it's Naruto.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	You should watch it.
	No.
	I don't know why.
	I just don't want to.
	I can't explain that.
	Maybe it's because of all the people that I've met that do watch it that I've never really gotten along with.
	Yeah.
	And the ones that have are way deep in that mythology.
	I'm like, you know, man, I can't.
	It's like Ghost in the Shell.
	We saw the...
	What was it?
	The ScarJo movie.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, alright, now I know this is going to piss off some people that are Ghost in the Shell or anime heads or whatever.
	I don't care.
	Listen, I watch a lot of obscure anime.
	I tried getting into Ghost in the Shell, like the original, and then I found out that like a few minutes into it, I'm like, this seems like there's an established lore here.
	And then I found out that it wasn't the original.
	Yeah.
	It was like some sub-movie of some sub-movie, and I was like, what the fuck?
	Yeah, yeah.
	The original one that got...
	Turned into the ScarJo.
	Yeah.
	Was a sub-movie based off of the anime plot and pretty much...
	I've checked out.
	I've checked out.
	It's fine.
	I watched enough to know why.
	It's fine.
	You don't have to keep going.
	It's fine.
	The ScarJo portion where they show the dude getting his eyes blasted out against the robotic ones.
	Yeah, that happens in the anime, from what I understand, or one of the movies, fuck you, I don't care.
	Right.
	That happens where he takes a grenade to the face and, you know, his eyes get fried out by it.
	Yeah.
	So he gets the new robotic ones.
	They basically just sped up the anime and the movies by cutting out all of the unnecessary moments of the main character just sitting there in a chair.
	Sipping a fucking coffee waiting to kill somebody.
	Yeah.
	They just cut out all of those unnecessary segments and compiled it into one movie that, frankly, I wouldn't mind it if they made the sequel movie that technically did come out after that sub-movie.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, like I said, I couldn't really jump into all of that, but, um...
	Yeah, so...
	In this thing that we all just listened to, well, we watched it, but you all heard it.
	They actually show ovens.
	It is not about the Germans being an evil race as much as it is about their leaders being warmongers and leading them into evil acts.
	It is about keeping an eye on Germany, but also elements of fascism here in America.
	It is very much an it-could-happen-here kind of thing, reminding Americans that the war took a heavy toll and people banded together for a common good.
	We discussed the Kauffman work in the last episode.
	So I see no reason to replay Candace's shit take on it again here.
	But I will remind listeners that Kaufman's work was not well known here.
	But when it made its way to Germany, it was reprinted thousands of times by Goebbels as propaganda to keep the Nazi spirit alive.
	And it did not come out before the fucking war.
	It came out after Germany had already been attacking shit in Europe.
	It came out in 1941.
	The German war effort started in 1939.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, she's wrong about that.
	Anyway, I didn't know shit about this book until Candace mentioned it and I had to go look it up, but the way she talks about it, I have to assume at this time that she heard about it from one of her theocratic fascist friends or enablers.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Dave Smith resumes sucking the fetid toes of Pat Buchanan again.
	No, so, so, Pat Buchanan, who, by the way, like, if people, if he's lost on, like, the younger generation, like, everybody should go read Pat Buchanan.
	I mean, Pat Buchanan is just, like, the most brilliant conservative thinker of, at least up there, of the 20th and 21st century.
	No.
	I mean, he was truly, like, the precursor to Donald Trump.
	Yes.
	But, you know, without the pizzazz and the wealth and the brashness, but with, like, so much knowledge of history.
	And his books are fantastic.
	I mean, all of his books are great.
	But essentially, his thesis on World War II, and by the way, if you look at the title, it's Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War, and Unnecessary Wars in quotes
	Because that was a Churchill quote.
	It was what Churchill referred to the war as after the war.
	But... Yeah.
	Uh-huh. Yeah.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Winston Churchill referred to World War II as an unnecessary war, and we talked about this a little bit earlier, because he believed it could have been avoided through more decisive actions by the Allied powers in the years leading up to the conflict.
	Churchill argued that the war was the result of a series of diplomatic failures and misjudgments, particularly by the English-speaking nations, which allowed aggressive powers like Nazi Germany to gain strength unchecked.
	Churchill's perspective was that if the League of Nations had been more assertive in using collective force to prevent Germany's rearmament, and if the Allies had taken a stronger stance against Hitler's early territorial expansions, such as the remilitarization of the Rhineland in 1936,
	the war might have been averted.
	He believed that these early failures emboldened Hitler and weakened the moderate and restraining forces within Germany.
	Churchill's reflections on the war being unnecessary were not only a critique of the policies of appeasement and inaction, but also a call for future generations to learn from these mistakes.
	He emphasized that the lack of a firm response to aggression in the 1930s allowed the situation to escalate into a global conflict that could have been prevented with timely and decisive actions.
	Which is not what Dave Smith is about to say.
	His argument essentially was that, look, the Holocaust was a war crime.
	And that this happened in the context of a war.
	And if you could have avoided the war, you could have avoided the genocide.
	So his whole argument is that it's not like Nazis good.
	It's like, no, they're very bad.
	But his argument is that there were so many off-ramps leading up to this conflict.
	And essentially what the real battle came down to over, right, was after Czechoslovakia, was that they wanted Danzig.
	That they wanted this...
	Yeah, I named that clip Danzig,
	but not the rock god.
	Danzig, known today as Gdansk.
	was not part of Germany for a significant period in the early 20th century.
	After World War I, the Treaty of Versailles established the Free City of Danzig in 1920.
	This city-state was under the protection of the League of Nations and was not part of Germany, although it had a predominantly German-speaking population.
	It was also administratively tied to Poland, which handled its foreign policy and defense matters.
	The free city of Danzig existed from 1920 until 1939, when Nazi Germany invaded Poland and annexed Danzig, incorporating it into the Reichsgau of Danzig, West Prussia.
	Before its establishment as a free city, Danzig had been part of the German Empire from 1871 to 1918, and the Kingdom of Prussia before that.
	After World War II, Danzig became part of Poland, and its name was changed to Gdengst.
	I probably said that wrong, I don't care.
	Unrelated, but hardworking.
	I really hope he still is.
	Anyway...
	Dave was correct that Poland was granted to the Soviets and was part of the Eastern Bloc Zone for several decades.
	Moving on.
	You know, or whatever it was after that.
	Another several decades.
	And then, four decades after.
	So, or five, whatever.
	So the point is that it's like,
	There were so many options where we could have avoided this whole thing.
	Look, maybe you disagree with his thesis on the book or whatever, but to just think about World War II as the worst thing that ever happened, and the only thing we're allowed to do in hindsight is celebrate it.
	And how great it was.
	Instead of thinking of like, oh my god, the only thing you should be thinking is how could we have possibly avoided this?
	How could we possibly avoid this going forward?
	And that would be allowing us to objectively study it, and that's part of the reason, like I said, they hate me right now, because I'm going to know, guys, this is an incredibly important moment.
	Like, World War II did change everything.
	It changed everything in the entire world, and I don't think for the better, by the way.
	So I'm not saying that it's not a good thing that America won.
	I'm saying that when you look at America today and we realize, like...
	Has America objectively gotten better since World War II?
	We've gone into all these alliances overseas, things that have been problematic.
	What NATO is doing, now it's all about, oh, well, you know, World War II.
	They always go back to this World War II, and that's why we're doing this, this, this, and that, and NATO's got to protect borders.
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	Like, you're totally encroaching into Putin's territory while accusing him of encroaching into it.
	It's a madness, honestly.
	It's almost like psychopathic.
	Well, look, even if I'm wrong about everything I just said about World War II, like, let's just say the official narrative is 100% correct, because it's still only one lesson from history.
	And we're allowed to talk about it.
	It's supposed to apply to every other...
	The only lesson in history is when appeasement went wrong.
	So you're saying, has aggression never gone wrong?
	Right. Has starting a war never gone wrong?
	In the last 20 years, I could give you quite a few examples of it.
	I know we talked a little bit about this last time I was on the show, but it's just so absurd.
	Whatever you think about Vladimir Putin, he's certainly got a lot of flaws, and I'm not trying to live in Russia, and I don't particularly like the Russian model, you know?
	I like the old-school American model, pre-Woodrow Wilson.
	Do you have thoughts before I continue on this?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay, so, he's jerking off, what's his face?
	Buchanan?
	Buchanan.
	Yeah.
	He's jerking off Buchanan about...
	His book that he wrote about Churchill saying that there could have been a lot of preventative measures taken to prevent a war from happening.
	And he's got a problem with NATO who is taking the preventative measures required to prevent a world war from happening.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Does he have a problem with preventative measures being taken or not?
	He has a problem with Putin being unhappy about a thing.
	Putin's unhappy, so Dave Smith doesn't like that.
	Because all these ding-dongs are Putin's fans.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	He can say he doesn't want to live in Putin's Russia.
	I have a feeling he does.
	Yeah.
	So, that little bit at the end there is what caught me.
	I had to go do some research.
	So, he said that he'd rather live in the pre-Wilson America?
	Yeah.
	So what happened in Wilson's time that Dave Smith wouldn't have liked?
	Let's explore that a bit.
	During Woodrow Wilson's presidency, several significant changes occurred in America, both domestically and internationally, which kind of marked a transformative period in the nation's history.
	Wilson's presidency was marked by a continuation and expansion of Progressive Era reforms.
	He implemented the new Freedom Agenda, which included significant tariff reductions, banking reforms with the creation of the Federal Reserve System, and antitrust legislation to curb monopolistic practices.
	Federal government expansion.
	Wilson believed in a strong federal government to regulate the economy and improve social conditions.
	His administration established the Federal Trade Commission to address unfair business practices, and he passed labor laws to protect workers.
	Two major constitutional amendments were ratified during Wilson's presidency.
	The 18th Amendment, which instituted prohibition, which was not cool.
	Fuck him for that.
	the right to vote.
	Despite all the progressive reforms, Wilson's administration took regressive steps in civil rights, particularly by segregating the federal government and aligning with racist ideologies, as evidenced by
	his support for the film Birth of a Nation.
	Yeah. He wasn't perfect.
	He was far from it.
	Did some asshole things.
	Mm-hmm.
	And then Wilson's second term in office was dominated by World War I. Initially, the United States had a stance of neutrality, but the U.S. entered the war in 1917 following German provocations, such as unrestricted submarine warfare.
	The U.S. involvement was pivotal in the Allied victory of World War I. After the war, Wilson proposed 14 points.
	which outlined his vision for a post-war world based on self-determination, free trade, and the establishment of the League of Nations to prevent future conflicts.
	But the U.S. Senate rejected joining the League, which marked a significant setback for the internationalist vision.
	The war effort led to increased roles for women in the workforce and highlighted racial tensions as African American soldiers experienced different social conditions abroad.
	The war also spurred debates about America's role in global affairs, which set the stage for future international policies.
	So, he'd rather live in a world before bank reforms, women's suffrage, and live with racial disparities greater than those of today, with less of a middle class and more monopolies.
	Y 'all getting a good picture of Dave Smith yet?
	Yeah.
	Believe me, there's more damning stuff coming.
	We're not done.
	Now, another thing that, unrelated, but in a different podcast that I listened to earlier in the week, when we sent people over, not just the military, but civilian people over to Germany and the other countries that had experienced fascism that were rebounding,
	one of the first things they did was get rid of monopolies in business.
	Yeah.
	Because monopolies lead to fascism.
	It's one of the many reasons why we are so dead set against them.
	Because when you have a monopoly of a certain thing, it doesn't mean that business is good.
	In fact, a business having a monopoly on a thing means they can fuck around.
	They don't have to be good if they're the only provider of a service.
	And then they can afford, usually, because they're the only provider of a service, they've got all that fucking money, they can buy the votes they need in Congress to just keep fucking around.
	We see that with the tech industry today.
	And it's fucked up.
	That's why one of the pods I listened to earlier in the week, I want to say it was Better Offline, They talked about how during the Biden administration, there really haven't been any real mergers of businesses.
	No mass mergers, really.
	Yeah.
	Or at least very few have taken place.
	It's because they cracked down on actually inspecting whether or not these mergers would be good.
	Yeah.
	So tech companies are finding ways around the merger laws right now.
	And they're kind of hoping for a Trump presidency.
	Because he'll relax the laws to let them do their stupid-ass mergers that will fuck everyone but their shareholders.
	So, yeah.
	Here we go with another clip.
	But, you know, the idea that, first of all, we led a coup in Ukraine to overthrow Yanukovych...
	Because he had decided to do an economic partnership with Vladimir Putin rather than the EU.
	I mean, just imagine.
	Just imagine.
	But they don't even know it.
	People don't even know this because the media keeps Americans dumb, deluded, and stupid.
	And so it's always back to like...
	World War II.
	People just go back to the Cold War.
	Russia bad.
	They're supposed to just be reactions to what you're talking about.
	People, Americans watching are going, what do you mean we staged a coup?
	Most people didn't even know that we staged a coup.
	And they freaked out when I was reading Vladimir Putin's speeches.
	I want people to actually be educated.
	I'm not saying I know everything, but I'm telling you that we have been intentionally taught nothing.
	Literally nothing.
	No context.
	Nothing more told to you other than, this person bad.
	We're like monkeys.
	It's like, this person really bad.
	This person really good.
	There is nothing else that you need to know other than this evil, this is objective goodness, and that's the end.
	And I'm like, you cannot objectively take a look at what we did in that region, both in Ukraine and what we have been doing in that region in Ukraine, and go, Putin had no reason whatsoever to be upset, unless you're just like a chronic abuser and a psychopath.
	Unprovoked.
	Totally unprovoked.
	I should, by the way.
	Yeah, Dave Smith and Candace are full-throated Putin stance.
	Yeah.
	The whole thing about the U.S. having anything to do with the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine is Russian propaganda that has never been supported.
	They've never provided evidence for it.
	It's just a talking point of Putin's suck-ups.
	Mm-hmm.
	Next clip.
	Give this a plug, because I just got an advance copy and read it, but a good friend of mine, Scott Horton, you've got to talk to Scott Horton.
	He's like, the best on war.
	The best voice on war in the country.
	But he's writing a book called Provoked.
	And it's so good.
	It just goes through the whole history.
	Basically from the collapse of the Soviet Union up to Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine and the whole history of it.
	Yeah, so Horton is a strong anti-war voice that has written a couple of notable books and runs a libertarian anti-war podcast and website.
	But what I thought was notable in that clip was that Dave Smith actually said that Putin invaded Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Jeffrey Sachs was on Tucker Carlson's show last month.
	And I thought the way he put it was great, because if you look at what's known as the Maidon Revolution in 2014, I mean, there's a lot of...
	First off, the National Endowment for Democracy and the USAID are just pouring millions of dollars into it, and the Soros NGOs are the ones who got the protesters out onto the street.
	It's so clearly a U.S. regime change.
	100%.
	But on top of that, you have Victoria Nuland.
	And John McCain and Senator Murphy and a couple others who are all in the middle of the protest with them saying, we're with you the whole way.
	They're handing out food and water, which Jeffrey Sachs said, which I thought was great.
	I didn't think of this, but I'm glad he did.
	He's more clever than me.
	But he goes, just imagine if on January 6th you had a bunch of high-ranking Chinese officials.
	Who were there with the protesters saying, we have your back.
	We're with you.
	You know, take down this government.
	I mean, could you imagine what the response...
	I'm sorry, the Chinese is...
	Yeah, that's a real hard turn, isn't it?
	Yeah, they've been going on about...
	Germany and Russia for just so long that mentioning the Chinese government just kind of threw me.
	It's because one of the alt-right talking points these days is that the Chinese funded the J6.
	Yeah, I wish I didn't know that.
	So, yeah, no.
	The people he mentioned, by name, like John McCain, We're not in the thick of it marching in the Maidan Revolution.
	Also, Soros didn't fund it.
	He didn't like what was going on in Ukraine, but he did not fund things like that.
	That's not what he puts money towards.
	He puts money towards open societies.
	Open governments.
	Not fucking revolutions.
	He doesn't fuck around like that.
	Now, those people that he mentioned, they did address the crowds.
	And only Victoria Nuland among those named handed out food, water, and supplies.
	Ukrainians themselves mostly directly brought food and water and supplies to the protesters.
	And he can fuck right off with that Chinese conspiracy crap about J6.
	It really speaks to the mindset of these people that they can't even own their own failed fucking attempt to take the capital.
	Yeah.
	Fucking pathetic.
	Anyway.
	That's literally what we did in Ukraine.
	So if you think that Putin had no reason...
	So imagine that's going on in Mexico, right?
	Yeah, on your border.
	So imagine in Mexico...
	That we come up with like a, and however we got there, I mean, yeah, we put our thumb on the scale, but we get a trade deal going with Mexico.
	You know, they were thinking about doing a trade deal with the Chinese or something like that, but we convinced them when you trade with the Chinese, you won't be able to trade with us, but we'll give you a big generous loan if you sign this trade deal with us.
	And they go, okay, we'll sign a trade deal with us.
	And then China comes in and overthrows that government and installs a government who wants to take a deal with China.
	And then a civil war breaks out.
	And then they start flooding arms into the Civil War.
	What do you think D.C. would do?
	They'd back off?
	They'd go, well, I guess that's Chinese territory now down there in Mexico.
	But that's classic American gaslighting, and it makes me sick.
	It's like we have done so much to so many people around the world since the beginning of time, and when you start trying to interject that into the American conscience, because now I'm telling people all this information because I'm trying to stop another war from happening because people don't have any information because they really do believe that when they see Ukraine trending and a bunch of people putting the blue and yellow flag up,
	that that must mean Ukraine good.
	That is where the American mindset is right now.
	Intentionally, like I am telling you, the public school system, the public education system was passed through, was federalized, with the intention to make American students dumber and dumber and dumber objectively.
	More emotional, but objectively dumber, which is a fact right now.
	Which is why one of the most brilliant things that I think Matt Walsh did, or he spoke about it.
	Yeah, fuck Matt Walsh.
	Fuck him for existing.
	You have thoughts?
	Okay.
	I'll admit this much.
	Back when all of this started.
	And I was only getting my news through YouTube shorts.
	There's one guy in there that I follow for war news and war history.
	What the fuck was that?
	It was something on my computer.
	And he was doing a report on the Ukrainian situation.
	Well, he was doing it from the completely fair point of we don't really know who's Wrong right now.
	Because at the time that I had watched the report, Putin was looking actually like he was doing the right thing.
	He blew up the dam that was preventing the water from reaching Crimea as it had been reported.
	And that, you know, Ukraine has been warned several times to stop limiting the resources to Crimea.
	And I was like, okay, he's actually doing something good.
	Whatever.
	And then, you know, everything else happened, and I immediately, when I got to work, and somebody was like, did you hear about what Putin did?
	I was like, yeah, and I just gotta say, I gotta retract my previous statement.
	Things were looking good, but they have turned so far south.
	Yeah, well, it was never good for him to do that.
	Yeah.
	It was never good.
	Like, yeah, on a...
	Oh, man.
	On Hood Politics, he had a series for a while, and I don't know if it's still going on because I haven't checked out that show for a bit.
	I'm like 80 episodes behind on it.
	He had a little series going for a while called Crimea River.
	And it was about what directly was going on in Ukraine and why the people were gearing up and watching the Russians amass on the border and shit.
	Why this was all going on.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, it was actually, you know, it was pretty well done.
	It was a good explanation of everything.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, so I probably don't have to say it, but regarding what Dave Smith said, none of that is what happened in Ukraine.
	And I'm pretty sure that what turned people on Putin is that he invaded another country in order to take it over and keep it out of NATO.
	Mm-hmm.
	Also, bombing hospitals and shit is a pretty bad look.
	Yeah.
	And American students are on average smarter these days than when I was in school.
	Just because Candace wasn't a good student doesn't mean that the system sucks.
	Yeah.
	She presses the point with...
	He just challenged people to go read a letter from a civil war soldier writing to his mom who had...
	No educational training whatsoever.
	And it sounds like poetry, right?
	And then you go find someone who just graduated university with like a 3.7 GPA and just read how they write and how they speak.
	And you will recognize we are becoming dumber and dumber.
	Objectively, the SATs, they're getting rid of honors classes.
	They don't even want people to know they're getting dumber.
	In fact, they're convincing them they're smarter.
	The great paradox is while we are objectively getting dumber in terms of mathematics, in terms of the English language...
	We are at the same time giving out more degrees than ever before.
	So we're inflating people's egos while they're becoming legitimately more retarded.
	And I'm using that not as an insult to...
	Yeah, no, the literal definition of retarded.
	We are slowing people down.
	And I see that that is intentional.
	I see how evil, how Machiavellian it is.
	And when you see these kids and they're enraged and they're fighting for trans rights, somewhere in the back, the evil cabal, which I very much believe there is a cabal that is running the government and by another name would be the CIA.
	It'll be all of these intelligent agencies that are linked to each other around the world.
	But that evil cabal is just laughing because you have no information.
	So they know eventually, right now, cover this on my show, 40% of kids can't pass a basic literacy exam in America.
	I just wanted to pause and say no.
	The rate with which people, especially young people, text and use tech like it's nothing, regardless of whether or not they understand how it works, speaks to high literacy rates.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	So, yeah.
	So, eventually, your reality will be what we tell you.
	So, when we say, this is what happened, you won't be able to read what went down in 2014 in Ukraine.
	Putin is the bad guy.
	He's going to kill you.
	He has nukes.
	You'll be signing up to go to a war and to go die overseas.
	That is what is happening.
	You have to wake up to that.
	You need to actually become educated.
	Make sure your kids can learn how to read and know that...
	Everything they're telling you, they're lying to you about what's happening presently.
	Can you imagine how much we are being lied to about what happened in the past?
	When they could get away with so much more.
	Are you overwhelmed with back taxes or struggling with unf...
	Un-fucking-sorry, what?
	I did not put that together.
	The ad break was that fucking harsh.
	Jesus.
	That kind of thing has been happening more often on her shows, as well as her appeals for people to sign up on Locals.
	Anyway, it made me laugh when it just wrenched into the ad.
	I figured I would share.
	Dave goes on to demonstrate how simple-minded he actually is, as well as the problem with edited Man on the Street interviews.
	You're totally right, though, about the thing about dumbing down of Americans.
	I mean, I remember seeing recently, and this was at the Columbia protests over, you know, free Palestine protests or whatever, which is, you know, as if people know me, it's an issue I'm fairly sympathetic to them on.
	Like, I'm totally against this.
	I mean, it's like, this isn't even just like a college.
	This is like an Ivy League college.
	And you would think people protesting a war...
	At an Ivy League college, I've probably read a couple books about it, you know what I mean?
	And know what they're talking about.
	And just the way they speak and how ignorant they are of the whole thing, it's like, really, it was jarring to see.
	And yet my grandfather, who worked in a factory and never even thought about going to college, but him and all his friends who worked at factories were all way smarter than this.
	They knew things in the world.
	Like, they read books and they knew what was going on in the world around them.
	And it is, yeah, it's like, Matt Walsh is totally right about it.
	And your point, I think, is really, really important.
	Can't be overstated enough.
	That also, at the same time, that person, that kid there is like, I go to Columbia.
	You know?
	And like, I have this, I'm getting this piece of paper that means something.
	And so they have this crazy inflated sense of self that they're like a really smart person where it's like, you're dumber than an average factory worker from a couple generations ago.
	You're not smart, kid.
	In fact, you're so dumb because at least that person knew how to survive.
	Then you couple that with the fact that the majority of these people, and I am convinced, and this is not a conspiracy theory, this is what I tell people every day, okay?
	They are recreating slavery.
	Right?
	And it's like a magic trick.
	When you actually study...
	Yeah.
	So, man on the street interviews, first off, are the worst.
	They were an easy target for comedians in the 80s and 90s.
	And even people like Jay Leno used to do them as easy comedy bits.
	I'm pretty sure the late night crowd still does them.
	I don't know and I don't care.
	Comedy Central does the occasional.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, they've been a staple of right-wing and alt-right media for a while, too, as they often show edited clips of people being asked absurd questions about whatever the topic of the day is.
	Comparing a current college student with a factory worker from several years ago is also a swing and a miss, because the current student has grown up in a different society.
	There is hardly a comparison there.
	So this goes on for several minutes as Candace explains how she learned to grow food from a person she met when her family moved to Tennessee, and I'm skipping past it.
	Basically, Candace didn't know how to garden and was taught, and she thinks that normal people don't know how to do it.
	I purchase enough gardening stuff for people on a regular basis.
	I can tell you that they do.
	Yeah, most people here do.
	I mean...
	Shit, the one friend that I went to go and visit the other day?
	Yeah.
	Didn't even know.
	Their father apparently grows a fuckload of tomatoes alongside the house.
	Yeah.
	Didn't know it until I was, like, walking around the back porch and I looked down the side of the house and I just see eight fucking tomato plants.
	Nice.
	And I'm just like...
	Very cool.
	How long have those been there?
	They just went, oh, those have been there for, like, a couple years now.
	I was like...
	What the fuck does your family not do?
	You're rich, you're all very well educated, and your dad grows tomatoes.
	The fuck?
	See, that's the kind of Catholics that Candace should be.
	Yeah, they're great Catholics.
	Actual Catholics.
	They don't even give a shit that I'm not Catholic.
	Here's the thing, right?
	Here's something that I found out earlier today.
	It could happen here.
	They studied J.D. Vance for a little bit.
	It got mentioned, and I wanted to throw something, but I was driving.
	I had nothing to throw.
	Except the car.
	Yeah, except the car or my coffee, and I wasn't going to throw my fucking coffee.
	So, yeah.
	J.D. Vance.
	Recently converted to Catholicism.
	Another fucking Nazi.
	God.
	Another fucking Nazi, funded by dark money, recently converted to Catholicism.
	I think they also said that his main financer, Peter Thiel, is a Catholic or something as well.
	I'm not sure about that one, but maybe I wanted to hear that.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, but yeah, I know they definitely said that J.D. Vance recently converted, and I was like, son of a bitch!
	Yeah.
	Have none of these people ever had an original thought in their lives?
	I'd say not.
	No, no, they have not.
	So, here we go with the next one.
	It's a small clip, but worth it.
	When you look at the situation in Gaza, when you kind of were the people that really illustrated it for me, because I was ignorant.
	I didn't know anything.
	And I genuinely, I genuinely, and I hope people knew that it was genuine.
	I don't want to speak about things if I don't know them.
	And I will tell you that I don't know them.
	But when you kind of gave me even that situation, and I'm like, this really all comes down to survival.
	And we've kind of gotten into this place because we have not had war on our soil.
	I mean, you could say like the Civil War and the Revolution War.
	Yeah, I don't like cutting small clips, but come the fuck on.
	American ships were attacked not just at Pearl Harbor, but also by Nazi subs off the coast during World War II, and I'm pretty sure that 9-11 happened.
	Americans have also experienced war by sending troops off to fight around the world to keep it from happening here.
	They get into talking about apocalypse planning next, and I'm skipping it because it's silly.
	But do you remember when Candace said she had two degrees?
	I have the clip in here.
	Did it get relocated?
	It might have.
	I'm going to pull that up because it's worth going back through a little bit.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, I know that I had it in here.
	I'm going to find it.
	You know what I really hate?
	I just had an idea.
	What's that?
	Just having ChatGPT make up a fake advertisement to just read in these little intermittent moments.
	Yeah, nah.
	Audio Veritas.
	Let's keep it how it is.
	Let's see, I might have it in the...
	Oh yeah, I think I put it in...
	No, it's not in there.
	What the fuck did I do to my pinky today?
	That's a good question.
	What did you do to your pinky today?
	I don't know.
	It just hurts.
	Maybe you slammed it into something.
	Maybe.
	Oh, I know what I did.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you figured it out, huh?
	Yep.
	I punched the door like an idiot.
	Oh, that'll happen.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'd ask why, but I don't want to know.
	It wasn't out of rage.
	It was a stumble.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	That's weird.
	I can't find it.
	I'm gonna...
	Damn, I had gone through a lot to clip it, too.
	That's why I'm like, where the fuck...
	Recordings, maybe?
	No, see, there's nothing in the recordings.
	It's an empty file.
	Oh.
	Oh, that's weird.
	At any rate, I do have it somewhere around here.
	Let me see.
	Maybe in media.
	No, it's not in there.
	Damn it, man.
	Maybe I will clip all of this out.
	I mean, I can do that.
	I have the power for it.
	True, true.
	Let's see.
	I keep thinking it's in the music, but...
	Alexis?
	No.
	Not there.
	I had already started doing the next episode.
	What's the name of it supposed to be?
	The name of it is just...
	Two Degrees?
	Oh, no, here it is.
	Here it is, here it is, here it is.
	Okay.
	Yeah, here we are.
	to this.
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter, which is why I didn't say it.
	But it is funny.
	Don't get all your information from Wikipedia.
	Yeah.
	What has she been doing fucking constantly?
	Oh, go to Wikipedia, guys.
	Open up your tap.
	Open up another tap.
	Go to Wikipedia.
	Yeah.
	Constantly.
	I swear to God.
	Oh, and don't trust Wikipedia because they're run by a satanic blood god.
	Worshipper.
	Yeah.
	I forgot the worshipper part.
	I think it was implied.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So now you've all just heard that, right?
	Yeah.
	You've all just heard that.
	Here we go.
	Ah, it's like they're stupid, meaningless degrees.
	Yeah.
	Like when they try to insult me because my family quite literally couldn't afford when Sally Mae had to collapse.
	My family didn't have money to go to college.
	Like I had to drop out of the University of Rhode Island because I couldn't pay $35,000 a year.
	And they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Like they loved calling me that for the longest time.
	Like she's just a college dropout.
	And I'm like, what is your degree?
	you can't survive.
	You literally...
	Now, I knew about this from the time I had to find the truth about her supposed degrees.
	Now, saying that her family couldn't afford for her to finish college, she could have transferred to a cheaper school.
	I don't buy that story.
	Now, Mm-hmm.
	They could have done any other number of things.
	But what I know about her history is that after she dropped out of college, she went to New York City and had some sort of financial job that I've never been able to find out the truth on.
	that... Okay.
	Okay.
	There are like 500 podcasts on her old channel.
	I keep hoping she drops a name.
	Just the one name.
	I just need the one name.
	That's all I need.
	I just need the one name of where she says she worked.
	And then I can get to work on details.
	Yeah.
	Where we find these people in the lies and in the cracks or in the fucking details.
	Yeah.
	If you just tell me, oh, I had a financial services job, you know, whatever, like in, um, fuck, what was her thing?
	It was supposed to be in some sort of personal, like, finance, like, you know, putting money aside for wealthy people.
	I don't remember the name of the job right now because I think all financial work is fucking dumb.
	But, um, with few exceptions.
	Like, I don't think a loan should require 30 fucking people.
	No.
	You know.
	But, um, yeah, anyway, so.
	Writing loans for charity for my old job never required 30 people.
	It literally just took the store manager looking at me and going, do you know how to fill out one of these forms?
	Uh, no?
	Okay.
	You put the code there.
	You put the amount of money there.
	You then go to your register and you activate a gift card and you put that amount of money that you put on the piece of paper onto that card.
	And then give it to this nice person here.
	Yeah.
	Wave, maybe.
	Smile, but not creepy.
	Yeah.
	But if you want to be creepy, make sure that charity is creepy.
	You know?
	I mean, I'm like, what the fuck, Candace?
	But, yeah, like I said, I keep hoping that she's going to drop a name or two when I go through that.
	Or maybe that name or two is in blackout and I haven't come across it yet.
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	That's part of the journey that keeps me going sometimes from like, maybe today.
	Yeah.
	Maybe today is the day.
	Because if I can get a name, I can then put in some work to find out some details.
	But, yeah, so...
	Yeah, anyway, I don't buy that she couldn't afford the last year of college.
	Like, she's had plenty of time.
	And money.
	To do it.
	To have finished that off.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, she does not have two fucking degrees.
	She doesn't even have one.
	Again, if she was just up front about that, if she hadn't lied about it, I wouldn't give her any shade.
	Yeah.
	I didn't finish college.
	I don't care.
	Yeah.
	I don't care whether someone did or didn't.
	I don't care if anyone has less college time than I do.
	That doesn't matter.
	I mean, shit, I haven't even gone to college in order to have the dreams or the aspirations.
	Yeah.
	Which confuses the shit out of everyone I know.
	I mean, well, you know, it's like, look, if you don't know what you want to do, you shouldn't waste your time.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	But if you figure it out, if you're like, hey, this is a thing I want to pursue, then we'll do what we can to work with it.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, but as it is, if you don't know, don't go.
	You know, like, that's just how I've always felt about it.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, so, what follows next is what made me scream.
	I had to play it back several times just to kind of get over it, but even now, as I type this script, I am fucking angry as hell.
	And here it is.
	We don't know how to survive.
	You have resentment toward the blue-collar worker.
	And I believe, by the way, this gets into what you were saying before we started, which I want you to say now, how you were illustrating why they really don't like the populist people.
	The blue-collar worker is actually a guard against governance.
	I actually think government deeply resents the blue-collar worker for a reason, and you kind of said it way more eloquently, so I'd like you to restate it.
	Yeah, well, I was talking about, there's this piece that Murray Rothbard wrote, which is brilliant.
	The most brilliant political thinker of the 20th century.
	And he wrote this piece.
	It was kind of one of the most controversial pieces, maybe the most controversial piece he ever wrote.
	And I don't think it should be.
	I think it's a really great piece.
	It was really brilliant.
	But he was writing about David Duke, who ran for governor in the 90s.
	and how he was writing about how the whole establishment freaked out when he ran.
	And if you could imagine, he was running for governor, but if you could imagine the way people freak out about Trump, it was kind of like that type of freak out, where the entire establishment was brought in to crush this guy, including the Republican establishment, the Democratic establishment,
	the entire corporate media.
	And of course, David Duke, to most people today, I think all they know him of is you're like,
	I don't know much about him.
	He's a white supremacist racist and you're supposed to bring him up like you bring off Adolf Hitler.
	Exactly.
	But at this point, he had been polling pretty well, and then they really moved in to crush him.
	And what Rothbard was writing about was, he was like, well look, why is it that this guy freaked out the whole system?
	His exact words were, he sure did scare the bejesus out of him.
	He was kind of talking about how, like, okay, well, you could say it's because he used to be in The Clown when he was in his 20s.
	Except the problem with that is that you got, like, Byrd in the Senate and, like, all these other people.
	They were also clownsmen, you know?
	And no one has a problem with them.
	They're, like, totally accepting it.
	And he goes through it, and he's like, well, really, what it is is it's that the regime freaks out over right-wing populism.
	And this, I think, really is a huge component to understanding.
	Why they hate Donald Trump so much.
	Okay, so first we're going to talk about Murray Rothbard.
	This motherfucker.
	So he was one of the most influential libertarian douchebags of the last century.
	He died in 1995, rest in piss, but left behind a legacy of work that if you have libertarian friends...
	They have probably repeated his talking points either directly or indirectly by quoting one of his many followers.
	Rothbard specifically didn't think the government should ever really exist, but if it did, it should not be relied upon to do things like build roads or do maintenance on built roads.
	He said often that taxation is theft and advocated for the breakup of all forms of government.
	He would be termed an anarcho-capitalist today.
	He lived in opposition to pretty much every government service that you can think of and all the ones that wouldn't normally occur to you regardless of the needs of individuals or their social good.
	He's an asshole, and I hope we don't have to cover him much moving forward.
	Now let's get into David Duke.
	Double fuck Rothbard for promoting him.
	David Duke was a former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
	He wasn't some confused 20-year-old man when he was active with the Klan.
	Rothbard supported him, not because of his obvious and unrepentant attitude towards racism, but because David Duke was saying all the right things to Rothbard about wanting lower taxes, dismantling welfare programs, and the like.
	These people will absolutely ally with each other against their own self-interest.
	Never forget it.
	It would have been against Rothbard's self-interest to ally with David Duke, because Rothbard was born to Jewish parents.
	Anyway, David Duke ran for governor of Louisiana in 1991 and got 38.8% of the vote, which wasn't a win, but it was kind of telling on the population there.
	Anyway, David Duke joined the KKK in Oklahoma when he was 17, and then he went on to establish a chapter of the Klan in Louisiana in 1974 after graduating from the University of Louisiana.
	He was the youngest Grand Wizard in the Klan, taking the position at age 26 in 1976 and serving until he was 30 in 1980.
	Duke attempted to rebrand the Klan during his leadership by promoting a more polished and professional image.
	He encouraged members to move away from traditional Klan activities and instead focus on political discourse.
	This included urging Klan members to hold meetings in hotels rather than in rural settings and adopting a more mainstream appearance by wearing suits instead of robes.
	Under Duke's leadership, the Klan's membership expanded as he opened the organization to women and Catholics, which was a departure from its traditional exclusionary practices.
	He also shifted the Klan's focus from targeting African Americans to targeting Jews, along with neo-Nazi ideologies.
	Despite these changes, Duke's tenure as Grand Wizard was marked by internal conflict.
	His leadership style, which was characterized by a strong ego and accusations of financial misconduct, led to significant resignations and schisms within the Klan.
	By 1980, Duke had distanced himself from the Klan, partly due to these internal issues and his desire to pursue a political career.
	Duke's efforts to mainstream the Klan and his subsequent political activities Ah.
	He switched his political allegiance in 1989 from Democrat to Republican.
	And has been one ever since.
	He was not some confused young man.
	He is not some confused older man now.
	He has been at least very clear in his views.
	Comparing him to Trump is fitting, but the fact that Candace, who has spoken repeatedly in her book Blackout and in her many public appearances about how the Democrats were the party of the Klan should know who the fuck David Duke is and why he sucks.
	But that would mean publicly reckoning that Duke and her associate Nick Fuentes and Ye all have several things in common.
	Duke and Fuentes, just this year, were seen protesting at a Turning Point USA event in Detroit.
	They were protesting the TPUSA support of Israel.
	Fuentes was denied entry to the TPUSA event and called out a protest from among his followers.
	These guys are very good friends.
	For Candace to not know anything about David Duke beyond the idea that he's a boogeyman she's supposed to dislike, I find that appalling bullshit.
	Yeah.
	Also, you know, I think the reason why everybody was so against him running for a political office might have, I don't know, had to do something with forming a...
	not only heading up his own chapter of the Klan, but also basically turning them into a bunch of businessmen.
	And opening them up to the, you know, the potential for a great new nation, as I'm sure he would put it, you know?
	Yes, with an arm outstretched.
	Yes, yes.
	And maybe even a new mustache to bro.
	A short one.
	Yeah.
	One that sits just under the nose.
	Yeah, yeah.
	A bit like Chaplin, perhaps.
	Yeah.
	You try and bring back the Chaplin look, as it be.
	Yeah.
	The Chaplin look and maybe...
	Maybe the German look.
	Maybe the 1930s, early 40s German look.
	What people need to realize is that under Duke's leadership and in subsequent years following it, the Klan has shifted their focus away from keeping black Americans down to fighting the Jewish people specifically.
	Whether it is the nation of Israel or Jews anywhere else, they are specifically going after Jews.
	And I honestly find it unfortunate that they've chosen to do this under the cover of Catholic Christianity.
	But I think one reason the Catholic Church has appealed to them more than Protestant denominations is that the Catholics have been vocal about Israel and their actions in Gaza being problematic for a long time, and especially lately.
	Then, Dave says something honest.
	If you really think about it, Donald Trump...
	First off, he's as American as apple pie.
	It's Donald Trump.
	My entire childhood, he was the stand-in for rich guy.
	You know what I mean?
	If someone was like, ah, lunch is on you, you're like, what am I, Donald Trump?
	He was the most American figure ever, beloved by Hollywood and the establishment and all of that.
	Hip-hop world, everybody.
	Yes, everybody.
	He was the guy, the big gold letters, Trump.
	Symbol of status, yeah.
	You look at, say, the four years he was in there.
	He did a couple good things around the edges.
	He did some very bad things.
	But he was no real threat to the establishment.
	It's not like the military-industrial complex wasn't making their profits anymore because Donald Trump was in there.
	The big banks had a real rough four years.
	Business as usual went on.
	Obviously, he's very bombastic rhetorically.
	But what really, I think, freaks them out about Donald Trump is that he's leading a right-wing populist movement.
	And that scares the elite in a way that left-wing populism never will.
	Like, let's...
	So yeah, he kind of hit the nail on the head while downplaying how significant it is.
	Trump is the current figurehead for the Alt-Reich movement, which is what they always mean with this populism crap.
	Populism is as much a soft word for Nazi as globalist or Frankist is for Jews.
	For what it's worth, their guy David Duke was the presidential nominee for the Populist Party in 1988.
	This is notable because the Populist Party that Duke was a part of was both A. different from the party of the 1890s that had an identical name.
	B. had several policy goals listed that read identical to items in the Project 2025 book, such as Economic Policies.
	The party's platform included the repeal of the income tax and the abolition of the Federal Reserve.
	It supported the implementation of a flat tax rate and the abolition of the IRS.
	For foreign policy, the party advocated for a neutral stance towards Israel.
	Social policies.
	The populist party opposed affirmative action, busing, and the Equal Rights Amendment.
	It also opposed rights for gay people and called for the repeal of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
	In the 2025 document, it seeks to strip away protections for all levels for LGBTQ folks.
	And as for immigration, it seeks to not do away with the 1965 statutes, but it seeks to change them significantly to make legal immigration harder.
	Nationalism and race?
	The party's platform was characterized by its white nationalist stance.
	It was known for opposing immigration and promoting policies that were aligned with preserving what it considered traditional American values.
	You know, to make America great again or something.
	Yeah. Um.
	Mm-hmm.
	I'm sure busing is definitely something much different in here.
	But I didn't hear the G at the end of it, and a little break from the bullshit.
	For anyone who doesn't know, for some reason, one of the current slang, or I don't know if it's current, I know I've just heard it recently, is bussin', which is something extremely good.
	I mean, bussin' is good.
	Bussin' is a social good.
	I'm sure it's not what that's meant by.
	Oh, like, you have some...
	Like, man, I got that because I was bussing ass?
	No, no.
	No?
	Okay.
	It was, um...
	I haven't heard this one.
	It's like if you have extremely good fucking tacos, you go, man, those tacos were bussing.
	Oh, like the ones at Taco Teresa's?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Fuck, what a good place.
	It's basically just another one for, y 'all, seeing fire.
	We recently had a family dinner at this taco joint.
	There's only like two locations that I know of here in Minneapolis.
	Totally worth hitting up though.
	Called Taco Teresa's.
	Fucking good!
	I recommend the Quesa Birria.
	It's corn tacos with birria.
	And you get like a birria consomme to dip them in.
	So it's like Mexican French dip.
	Fucking mouth-watering just thinking about it.
	I could eat so many of those.
	You get three for $15.
	It's a really good deal.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, and then you got, like, the consomme you can drink down.
	And they got, like, free, like, nachos and amazingly good salsa.
	Oh, yeah.
	Fuck that habanero salsa is the shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	That shit fucked me up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like, it punches you in the face and it stays.
	Yeah.
	It hangs out in your throat.
	Yeah.
	No, it's so good.
	Like, oh, and they got horchata.
	It's really good, too.
	I haven't had bad shit there yet, and I hope I never do have bad shit, because I've been, like, it's so good.
	I recommend that place entirely.
	They are an unpaid sponsor.
	Yeah.
	Not a sponsor.
	No.
	God, I might hit them up.
	I mean...
	Look, I would hit them up just for the ability to, like, walk in there, like, at least once a month with your mom and be like, yeah, just give us, like, 50 bucks worth of dinner.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	You know, like...
	Yeah, so good.
	The burritos are huge.
	They are fucking huge.
	They give you a fork and a knife.
	Yeah, it is a burrito.
	You are not meant to eat it with your hands.
	No, it is a burrito that they cut in half because you need them to.
	Oh yeah, and one of the...
	It's worth looking up the menu, Taco Teresa's.
	Anyway, I'm just going to say one more thing.
	On the menu, they have tongue.
	As a meat option.
	Oh yeah, yeah, cow tongue.
	Yeah.
	As much as I love the quesadilla, I think I'm going to do...
	Oh, they also have cod as an option too.
	Fish tacos?
	Yeah.
	So I think I'm going to get the three taco plate the next time, but with cod, lingua, and shrimp.
	Okay.
	Or the vegetarian option, which I think was like eggplant or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, anyway, like, fuck that, I'll get four tacos.
	You know, I mean, fuck it, I'll get four tacos if I'm going there.
	But yeah, no, very, very, very good place.
	Totally worth recommending.
	Anyway, so yeah, here's the next clip.
	Going populism, they're not necessarily a fan of it.
	I mean, look, they rigged the Democratic primaries against Bernie Sanders.
	They weren't about to let him be the nominee.
	It's too, he's pointing the finger at billionaires and big banks, and it turns out billionaires and big banks have a lot of power.
	They don't like that.
	It's not that they love communism or socialism, but what is Bernie Sanders really leading a movement of?
	I mean the people.
	Who are they?
	A bunch of male feminists on college campus?
	What are they going to do?
	But who is Donald Trump leading a movement of?
	Every barrel-chested man in America loves Donald Trump.
	Every tough dude that has a shotgun loves Donald Trump.
	They don't like people like that.
	It's part of the same reason they don't like Alex Jones.
	You know, it's like that movement is something dangerous to them.
	And that's one of the reasons why they crack down on this.
	And it can also be explained like why masculinity in general is under such attack.
	You know what I mean?
	They don't like tough men.
	That's never part of the game.
	Interrupting briefly here to speak to you if you are somebody that feels that you are taking a step back every month instead of moving forward.
	So this is more bullshit.
	While he might have described a certain kind of Trump fanboy there, it's not comprehensive.
	I think this is a gross stereotype that he's pushing.
	I've seen plenty of people with MAGA crapola that don't look like this at all, and I've seen footage with guys like he described at Harris rallies, including our own governor, Walls.
	Walls is an outdoor sportsman familiar with firearms and hard work, and a veteran.
	He's a big, friendly white
	So, fuck Dave Smith for this bullshit.
	I kept the ad break in there to show y 'all how they just threw them in.
	Yeah.
	That reminds me of the fucking Trump supporters.
	Yeah.
	One of the guys that I talked to at the gym.
	Yeah.
	We were sitting there, and I don't remember who brought up politics, but we usually don't talk about it when we're at the gym.
	Yeah.
	But it just came up.
	Right.
	And so we're all sitting there warming up.
	And the guy's like, God, dude, I have this one fucking friend, like, he's, he's a, he's like a really nice dude to most people, and he's a great guy, but fuck, I cannot hang out around him around election time.
	And somebody was like, why is he just like super political?
	He's like, well, that, and he's got these two flags that, He has, on the back side of his truck, on flagpoles, and then he's got, like, four miniature ones that he clips into the windows and a speakerphone that he mounts to the top.
	Oh, Jesus.
	And we're just like, oh, God.
	What's next?
	Is it American flags?
	Or is it, like, Trump with two...
	LMGs and, you know, each hand with an eagle behind him and an explosion and fire.
	And he's like, all of that with an American flag backdrop.
	And I was like, oh, Jesus Christ.
	He's like, yeah, yeah, he'll drive around an area that he knows isn't Republican and just, like, use his speakerphone to, like, Blair propaganda.
	And I'm just like, why are you friends with this dude?
	He's like, because the other...
	Three years?
	He's actually a decent guy that you would never guess would be this kind of asshole.
	No, I'm sorry.
	That to me is, oh, you've shown me who you are.
	You will throw me under the train.
	That's what you will do.
	You will throw me and my family under the train if your orange emperor gets his way.
	No, we can't be friends.
	And he's even looked at the dude and just gone like, you know you're an asshole, right?
	And he's like, what?
	What's great about that is I see those kinds of people, thankfully not often, but back when we lived in Florida, I would see them flying their whatever bullshit flag, especially after the motherfucker lost.
	That was great, because I was like, yeah, they're probably crying and jacking off.
	I'm talking their sister's foot porn on OnlyFans or something.
	That got more layered than it needed to be, I think.
	I've constructed great scenarios in my head about these people, but anyway, I see them in traffic with their Trump flags or their Gadsden flag on the back of their truck.
	It's all the same shit.
	And I just flip them off.
	They run so fast.
	Punch their foot on the gas to get away when I do that at a stoplight.
	And I'm like, y 'all are just the scaredest bunch of dicks.
	You've got no fight in you whatsoever.
	If you're going to do something that you know is going to make people go, hey, you're a fucking asshole.
	You've got to have a backbone to...
	It's like, man...
	They go home to their sister wives and they're like, let me tell you what happened today.
	This guy just looked at me and just flipped me off.
	Because I got a bunch of cool shit on my truck.
	What?
	And I know they do that shit because I've heard those people in bars before when I bartended.
	And me being who I am, I'm always like, why would someone do that?
	It's back during the Bush years.
	Bartending and his rednecks would come in and they'd have their little stories like, why would someone do that, man?
	Oh, I was just, you know, I got like a fucking, I got like a confederate flag.
	Hold up.
	Wait a minute.
	Why do you have a confederate flag on your vehicle?
	You know, before I pour you this beer, before I even uncap this bitch, you're going to explain this confederate flag situation to me.
	Well...
	You have 30 seconds to start explaining this or I'm going to ask the bouncer to take you away.
	Y 'all got a bouncer?
	We're gonna.
	I will come around this bar and bounce you the fuck out myself.
	And I know all the local cops.
	You won't stand a chance.
	Explain or go.
	Hooters is across the way.
	Go try it over there.
	By the way, most of that staff is Mexican.
	But try it on them.
	Oh, I'll just...
	I'll go.
	Yeah, you will.
	See, I...
	This...
	This sounds better in my head.
	Yeah.
	Than it does out loud.
	But the one thing that kills me...
	One of the many things that kills me about racists...
	Is their inability to look at a woman of another ethnicity and go...
	That's hot!
	Yeah.
	And I can never understand it because they're just like...
	Man, fuck Mexicans.
	I'm like, hold up.
	Hold up.
	I mean, or just anybody.
	Just anybody.
	Just anyone.
	Like, you know, they just, yeah, it's so like, it's so ingrained, you know, and it's like, come on.
	Like, I just, I always thought it was funny when, you know, I would know girls, women, excuse me, get out of high school, you're an adult.
	I don't care what anybody says.
	You're a fucking adult.
	Anyway, they go off to college.
	They come back with, like, they're not white.
	You know, boyfriend or girlfriend.
	Guys would do it, too.
	Or sometimes women would come back with women.
	Yeah.
	Good for them.
	You know, or the guys, whatever.
	Anyway, they go back to their rural Florida families and, you know, and, like, occasionally get to talk to these people before they meet the parents.
	And it's like, do your parents know what's about to happen here?
	Like, they're just going to have to deal with it.
	That's the right idea.
	Good for you.
	Do you want me to hang out or do you got this?
	No, they're just going to have to deal with it because, how can I say, the condom broke and I'm not doing an abortion.
	Alright, that's your decision.
	You're both cool with it.
	I don't care, man.
	I support you guys.
	Go have fun.
	You know?
	And then go in the house and, you know, you hear like a screaming match and it's like, catch up with them, you know, a couple days later.
	Like, so how'd everything go?
	I heard some yelling.
	Oh, yeah, well, you know, they didn't like it, but then I was like, he's my baby daddy!
	They just, you know, they were just pleased they were going to be grandparents.
	Yeah, see, that's how that works.
	Good for you.
	Way to go, you know, and that happened a lot.
	Oh, God, I've met a few elderly folks here that, like, it's, they've got, like, a mixed grandchild with them.
	Yeah.
	And they're, like, really happy and supportive of the child.
	Yeah.
	But you, like, talk to them when the child isn't present.
	Yeah.
	And it's clear that they're happy they have a grandchild, but, like, they would have...
	Preferred somebody else be.
	Not mixed.
	They wish their kid had gone a different way.
	Deal with it, racist.
	I can deal with it.
	I think the ones that are usually the best are the ones that go, yeah, my daughter or my son married.
	Somebody from another country, like, full-on, fresh off the boat from another country.
	And, you know, it was a little weird, but, like, I just started learning how to cook their food, and, you know, it was alright, so, you know, just kind of learned how to cook the food and figured it out the rest of the way from there.
	Apparently sauerkraut is a lot harder to make than I thought.
	I'm like, fuck.
	And they're buying a bag of boar's head sauerkraut and I'm like, I hope you're not serving this to anyone.
	Anyone alive.
	Ever.
	Are you sure that their problem with the sauerkraut wasn't just its existence?
	See, I would never want to be around anyone who was a sauerkraut aficionado.
	I'm aware that they exist.
	But I'm not much of a fan of cabbage.
	I think kimchi's the only way to get you to eat it.
	Yeah, and even then, I'm not going to sit there and eat a bowl of that shit straight.
	It's got to be mixed in with stuff.
	Yeah.
	So, here's our next clip.
	One of the things that I speak about with the Andrew and Tristan Tate phenomenon, where I'm like, okay, I'm not a person that would ever defend...
	The pornography industry that they were involved.
	But when I looked up and I saw, like, the entire world coming after these two brothers, I was like, okay, what is this actually about?
	And then I started watching his videos and I was like, oh, okay.
	So he's talking, like, old school masculinity.
	Like, you know, and he's saying stuff that's, like, as if, like...
	The matriarchy, which I believe that we're actually existing under.
	Step aside, B-I-T-C-Hs.
	After you guys have been saying all this stuff and men have been subjugated, they're saying the exact opposite.
	They're like, F that B-I-T-H.
	This is not even a girl that you want to marry.
	And the mass freakout was really because what the establishment fears is real men.
	It feels real men that will rise up and say, you know what, actually, I will defend my wife, I will defend my kids if it really comes down to it.
	They don't want that.
	That's why they want to rip apart families because it allows them to have more power.
	That's why they're pushing these agendas.
	Trans agenda and, you know, homosexuality and they're trying to mainstream all this because it disrupts the nuclear family.
	The nuclear family, and everyone knew this, Karl Marx wrote about this extensively, is a threat to...
	Just say, fuck that, bitches.
	God damn.
	Oh, no, she can't, you know.
	She can't, even though, because there's no rules.
	There's no rules in Christianity, in Catholic Christianity, about those specific words.
	Yeah.
	There's no fucking rules.
	Mm-hmm.
	But yeah, no.
	We've discussed the super douche Tate bros before, but I think it's telling that Candace went to watch Tate's videos without bothering to see the very credible crimes he and his brother are under watch for doing.
	And then, yeah, throwing his pretty fucked up statements in the mix, to push his work on people as being okay or admirable is really something else.
	Candace has been driving traffic to Andrew Tate for a little while.
	And I have to wonder what she's getting out of it.
	But also, if keeping families together is so important, why would she want to reinstall Trump, given how his border policies were...
	Biden doesn't have a better record, but come on.
	Dave and Candace go on to say some more libertarian shit with some religious bullshit thrown in government omnipotence if you want to be a government you want to be omnipotent you have to radically tear apart the family in every means that you can essentially redefine
	even means to be a family.
	Oh, you're a woman who identifies as a fish?
	Well, you can get married to another woman who identifies as a tiger, and you can go get your kids.
	You're going to turn to the government.
	We're going to tell you how you can get some IVF children.
	Like, let's just disrupt what it means to be a normal, natural, biological family.
	Yeah. Like, that's the rule.
	Yeah, about the IVF children bit there.
	Part of Project 2025 is to not allow IVF procedures anymore.
	Ah.
	Yeah, they want families on their terms.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but back to the clip.
	Every inch of statism, like every inch of the government...
	Take Social Security.
	And it's like, okay, well, what was Social Security before there was Social Security?
	It's like, well, that was your family.
	You know, your family.
	Like, the idea was, like, you took care of your kids when they were young and helpless, and then when you were old and helpless, they would take care of you.
	That was kind of the trade-off there, right?
	If you think about who...
	Okay, so before public schools, who was doing the teaching?
	Well, it was the family, or it was the community.
	It was the church, you know?
	If you think about even, like, the way people kind of...
	Very weirdly worship political figures.
	You know, I think during COVID, like, if you remember the treatment, the Cuomo-sexual stuff.
	The signs for Fauci in the yard.
	The Fauci things.
	Yeah, there's, like, very weird.
	It's like, okay, so at every inch of this, you see, like, whose government's competition?
	The family, the community, the church.
	That's their competition.
	That's who they're in business against.
	So why?
	Now, there I go.
	Well, why is it that all of the whole...
	I mean,
	in fact, you can't have them.
	Because it's just, look, people who have strong families, which are, you know, okay, as everybody knows.
	Always led by strong masculinity.
	I mean, that's the way you have strong families.
	They don't really exist without that, okay?
	So without strong men and strong families, people who have those strong families are independent.
	They don't need to be dependent on the government.
	The government relies on you being dependent on them.
	And in terms of, like, organized religion, there's, look, it's just all of those people, right, who you say, who are putting Fauci, you know, worshipping Fauci as a god or worshipping Andrew Cuomo or whoever it might be.
	None of them were devout religious people.
	Because devout religious people don't worship other people.
	That's like one characteristic that they have, because they already have their God.
	They're not looking for another God to worship.
	You know what I mean?
	And in fact, almost every single religion, almost everyone, you know, like the first commandment, is almost always, don't worship things that aren't God.
	You only worship God.
	That's what makes them God.
	And if you're worshiping something else, like it's God, whether that's yourself, or another person, or just a symbol, that's...
	Yeah, so if this was remotely true, then there would be no magnation behind Trump.
	The over-the-top hero worship is utterly bonkers.
	I didn't see anyone worshipping Fauci or anyone else during the main phase of the COVID crisis, but I've seen plenty of people that would lick Trump's toenails if he gestured for it to be so.
	But while y 'all digest that...
	And so, there's something...
	That is deeply powerful.
	Even if you're not religious, even just from an atheist perspective, there's something powerful about that because it robs would-be tyrants of their ability to put themselves forward as a god, which, by the way, they always do.
	Right, and that's the reason why in these communist societies they didn't allow faith.
	They basically said you're not allowed to be faithful because they wanted your only faith to be government, and that's one of the things.
	I actually don't believe in atheism.
	I think you just transfer your faith into something else.
	Yeah, I think Candace has never been around the type of atheists I've known.
	No one statement can describe a group, but I've been fortunate to know atheists across a spectrum.
	Some have been militant, but most have been pretty chill and don't push their ideas on others, which I always thought was the entire point.
	They keep going on this point for the next ten minutes, and I'm sparing you all the conversation.
	And then we get into this self-serving shit.
	Out there, it's like Tucker Carlson, there's you, there's Joe Rogan, and I just feel like...
	God is putting you in some position.
	And I also feel this way about Andrew Tate in a weird...
	People go, how did you think that?
	I don't know.
	I just feel like God gave him that platform and now he's recognizing I have this huge platform and tons of young boys are listening to me.
	What am I going to do with that?
	And everybody's walk up to that moment is complicated.
	But you're in this unique position.
	People are really starting to listen to you.
	And I know this is like a very heavy question, but...
	How do you see what's happening right now?
	How are you taking that, I guess, that responsibility?
	Are you just, I'm just going to commit myself to saying the truth and be bold in saying the truth and hope that that's enough?
	Or are you working on some other stuff?
	Are you working on a book?
	I feel like a lot of the false idols are falling apart, is what I mean.
	When I say the scales fall in people's eyes, and you're kind of one of the people that people are realizing is really authentic.
	Well, I mean, I think you're really one of those people.
	But I do, I think it's not...
	Well, I think, like, number one is kind of unlike what I was saying before.
	It's not lost on me how cool it is, what I get to do, and how kind of, you know, it's a big deal.
	It's a big deal to, like, have your voice heard by so many people and to always, like, treat that with respect.
	And then my job, I feel like, is to really know my stuff and not, you know, because it's always like we're all human beings, so we all have a tendency to like cut corners or like not.
	And you're like, no, no, no, I have to make sure I do my homework.
	I have to make sure I'm right, at least to the best of my ability.
	I'm correct about all this stuff.
	Yeah, if what he did here on this conversation is any indication of how his show runs, fuck!
	He does shows an average of three times a week.
	And while I couldn't pull a total number of podcast listener stats, He has 400,000 followers on Twitter.
	So that's comforting in no way whatsoever.
	This motherfucker actually defended David fucking Duke.
	I do my homework.
	Fuck the fuck off, Dave.
	Like, as I was saying to you before, I think the way I look at it is like, so as people know, in September 2001, 9-11 happens.
	In 2003, we invade Iraq.
	All of 2002 was building the propaganda campaign to invade Iraq.
	The entire year.
	If you're old enough to remember what that year was like, every single week, the New York Times and CNN and Fox News and every powerful person was making sure that everyone knew that, obviously, Saddam Hussein has nuclear weapons and he was clearly in on 9-11.
	And he's going to give one of these nukes off to Al-Qaeda.
	And then the next 9-11 is going to be a nuclear bomb dropping on America.
	So what are you?
	You know, what are you, a queer or you want to go bomb Iraq?
	Those are your two options, right?
	Like, are you America-hating wimp or do you want to go bomb Iraq?
	And at the time, there was just, we had nothing like what we have right now.
	And I go, if they tried to do that again into, now we got Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and literally the biggest shows in the world would all just be shrunk.
	Spreading that propaganda.
	Just destroying it if they tried to do it now.
	And so I think there's this crazy new thing that we have now where, and this is why I think part of why the elites are freaking out so much, why they freak out about you so much, is because it's like they feel they're losing control.
	And they are.
	They're right.
	They've lost the monopoly on information, which is like a crazy thing to lose.
	Yeah, okay, buddy.
	I think one of the most infuriating things about these conspiracy theories...
	Granted, people live and die and amass and lose fortunes in our timeline, but what makes a person like Trump and his associated crowd of idiots not part of the elites to these people?
	What follows is the last Dave Smith clip.
	And then, to your question about me, I kind of see my role as being like, oh, well, I'm fortunate enough.
	I get to be one of the guys who's on all of these shows and being like, okay, so when I'm on them, my job is to make the most overwhelming, compelling pitch of like, here's why this propaganda is all complete bullshit and why you should know that.
	So I just feel like that's my role.
	I don't have any plans to write a book.
	I hope he doesn't write a book.
	Yeah, this is not the guy.
	That should be telling anyone anything about what is or is not bullshit.
	Fucking David Duke for fuck's sakes.
	And all the other shit he said.
	Yeah.
	Ugh.
	The rest of the episode is just them talking about how great Candace thinks he is and thanking him and him plugging his comedian appearances wherever.
	Alright.
	And fuck this guy some more.
	I went looking up if he'll be coming to Minneapolis anytime soon so that maybe I could throw a rotten tomato at the bastard.
	And the first thing I'm treated to is about how he talked shit about Governor Walz.
	Fuck you, Dave.
	If Candace's career ever goes south, you're the next subject of study on Gish Gallup Girl, and I'm not changing the name.
	So I went and looked up Dave Smith, and this motherfucker has done hundreds of podcasts.
	So yeah, he's ripe for attention if anyone else wants to have a go at this kind of show.
	Anyway.
	I was going to have us run through the yay interview a bit, but honestly, it's just fucking sad.
	It's from two years ago, and Candace just let him run off with everything.
	He was listening to someone that needs help, and no one around him was able to break through or give him the help and space he needed.
	Candace followed it up with a show on the 12th that was titled in a way to suggest there was more to the yay interview, and there really wasn't.
	It was just Candace vamping for the camera and doing some ads for 30 minutes.
	None of it was new, and since we've already done so much on this one, I didn't see the point in retreading when this was already so much.
	So, let's drink something dumb that I hope for once doesn't smell like Fabuloso.
	I hope not.
	Now, that all being said, this is the last of our Blue Sun Sours, because my wife decided to, she needed something sugary, something straight sugary.
	And so she had to have one of these earlier in the week, and it turned out to be the orange one, and it turned out to be something that she hated.
	So there's your review on that one.
	And I didn't bother trying it myself.
	I just dumped it down the sink because nobody else in the house could drink it.
	Yeah, so.
	Yep.
	Because the only other person in the house can't have Red 40 because it conflicts with medication.
	Yeah.
	So at any rate, here we go.
	And yours.
	And yours.
	Oh, a little bit left for me.
	Okay, then.
	Unfortunately.
	Oh, Lord.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, dear Christ.
	That smells like...
	Hang on.
	I'm going to let that aerate.
	This is supposed to be tart cherry, is it?
	Cheeky cherry.
	Cheeky cherry.
	Okay.
	Cheeky cherry.
	Hang on.
	Let me get a whiskey sniff of this.
	It smells so bad.
	It's not as bad as still pickle.
	Nothing's ever going to top that.
	Hang on.
	This is the smell of my kindergarten classroom.
	Goodness.
	This is what Miss M smelled like.
	Oh, the teacher?
	Yeah, and this is...
	Oh, my God, man.
	Oh, all right.
	Why is that a smell that I have logged in my head?
	Oh, God.
	Okay, all right.
	You know, I didn't like the smell of the watermelon one earlier, but it turned out okay.
	I don't think...
	Let's just go for it.
	Okay, first impression.
	It's not bad.
	No, that's actually pretty good.
	Yeah.
	It tastes way better than it smells.
	Oh yeah, much better than it smells.
	It does not taste like an old lady that runs a kindergarten class.
	At least we don't think it does.
	I hope she doesn't taste it.
	I mean, it's not a cherry cola flavor.
	It's a cherry soda flavor.
	Yeah.
	A cherry pop.
	That one's up for debate even by the locals.
	Yeah.
	That's why I was sitting there.
	Honestly, that's really good.
	I don't know that I'll ever buy another one, but it's pretty fucking good.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	At my old job, I watched a pair of locals argue over whether it was soda.
	Pop.
	Okay, yeah.
	They were sitting there and they were going.
	The one was like, oh, um, so are we sending the pop out to just pick it up at the curb?
	And the other one went, you mean the soda?
	No, the pop.
	No, it's called soda.
	You lived in the South for too long before living here.
	It's called pop.
	No, it's called Soda Man.
	I know what it's called.
	And I was sitting there and I was like, how about option number three?
	Soda Pop.
	And they both glared at me.
	You could have really fucked them over by saying, hey guys, clearly it's Pop Soda.
	Say something that sounds very wrong.
	I find that doesn't really settle debates, but it makes them look at you and go, no.
	How about we do...
	The trick is to let them arrive at soda pop on their own by giving them the worst possible version, which is pop soda, for no reason whatsoever.
	There's no reason why those two words in that setup are different from soda pop.
	It just sounds wrong, even to my head.
	Knowing this as a truth, it sounds wrong.
	Yeah.
	It honestly wasn't bad.
	The flavor on it's really good.
	It smells like it'll wax your floors or something.
	They all have that residual smell of cleaner.
	So given what you've learned here today, do you have any questions or statements to add before we close this out?
	Fuck.
	For me, it's Fuck Dave Smith and Fuck David Duke.
	I don't have a holy war against Dave as a name because I like the movie Dave.
	We established that earlier.
	I like the movie Dave.
	And I don't have a problem with the last name Smith because I'm a fan of Kevin Smith.
	But I have a problem with Dave Smith.
	I don't know if there are other Dave Smiths in the world that I don't want to slap around.
	But I want to watch this dude get slapped around.
	Yeah.
	Not by me.
	And I'm not encouraging violence on the man.
	But I understand.
	Like, if he gets...
	God damn it, it happened at the Oscars.
	What was it?
	Oh, what, the Will Smith thing?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	See, I like my idea of finding out that he's coming to Minneapolis for a show.
	And just like...
	Buying some tomatoes and leaving them in a bag outside for like a week.
	Just so they've got that nice explodey rottenness to them.
	If they get flung in his direction.
	Even if it doesn't hit him directly.
	The viscera of the exploded rotten tomato may be getting on his shoes.
	I'm sure he would work it into his victim narrative of like, They're trying to silence me.
	Whatever.
	I don't care.
	Well, that's...
	I just...
	I want him to have red, stanky tomato on him.
	Well, that's when you have to slip some...
	God, no.
	That's in bad context.
	I can't slip anything on him.
	No, no.
	Hang on.
	No, no.
	You've got to slip somebody else a bribe to stand up and yell after the tomato is thrown and possibly miss.
	And just have them stand up and go...
	No, if we were trying to silence you, we would have hit you.
	No, see...
	I realize that's not a great statement.
	Well, see, I don't want to...
	Excuse me, goodness.
	Pop soda burp.
	There's another one.
	See, I don't want to involve anyone else.
	If we've learned nothing from history, it's that you have to be...
	A lone person or with a mob of people that have tomatoes.
	You can't just be like a group of less than five.
	Right.
	You know, it has to be kind of like a firing squad or a single person.
	Right, right.
	Nothing less or more.
	Mm-hmm.
	You know?
	Oh, I know what you've got to get.
	Now, if you've got like 30 people and everyone's got a tomato and they all go at once, there's no way to dodge.
	And it will just spread.
	See, what you gotta do is one of the...
	It's not a war story, but just a guy was serving in the Marines and he had to do his Euro overseas.
	Well, they required him to get Tundra training for where he wanted to be.
	So he and his fellow Marines, his friends anyway, they all ended up in the same group over in, I want to say it's Norway.
	Yeah.
	They had learned about a delicacy that is just bacon-wrapped hot dogs, essentially.
	Yeah.
	And so they knew that they could buy them real cheap at the gas station, and where they were stationed for their training was next to a school.
	Okay.
	Well, as they're all walking through in their big old snowsuits because they're all freezing their ass off because it's the height of winter, they're trudging through with all their weapons and the school lets out.
	And the kids see them, and they're all mimicking them.
	They're all just in normal fucking school here.
	And somebody, either a part of his platoon or somebody else, hucked a snowball at one of the kids.
	And it hit the kid in the leg.
	And at first, it was just him and his three buddies, and they were just like, where the fuck did the snowball come from?
	Before they could fully process what had happened, this horde of just, like, this one shriek let out from one child, and this horde of kids just came burling out of the school,
	scooping up snowballs, and just, like a factory machine, produced snowballs and were just...
	Helping the ever-loving shit out of all of them.
	And the most terrifying thing for the guy was his comrades tried to throw a couple of weak snowballs at them and just couldn't.
	And so they all just started running.
	Well, he tried to run and one of the kids latched onto his leg.
	And due to the bulkiness of his boot, he went to go and step and he twisted in his boot.
	Didn't cause himself any physical harm, but his boot was twisted.
	Dude goes down and gets flipped over by a group of these little kids that just five on each limb pin him down and just unzip his snowsuit ever so slightly and take handfuls of snow and just shovel it into his suit and then zip him up.
	And all he could...
	Understand, because he was snow-blinded, was just cackling little demons that just pinned him down and shoved snow into every open crevice they could and left him there, in the snow, abandoned by his comrades,
	just freezing.
	Don't fuck with Norway.
	Do not fuck with Norway or Finland.
	You don't fuck with the Scandinavians.
	The thought of having a crowd of 30 people, you don't need a crowd of 30 people.
	You just need about 15 elementary schoolers from Norway.
	Right.
	They'll do the rest.
	They'll do all the things.
	Well, let's kill this out, and I will get it posted up to Patreon.
	Yep.
	Okay, well, that's it for this week, y 'all.
	Have a good weekend?
	Beginning?
	Whatever it is when you get around to this.
	Have a good 2026 if you're listening to it then.
	I don't fucking know.
	In the future, I hope we've mastered the flying car.
	Yes.
	Why not?
	All right, that's it, everybody.
	Bye.

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