GabCast Bellgab.com - 26 April, 2019

April 26, 2019 - GabCast Bellgab.com

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26 April, 2019

26 April, 2019 ---------- This episode was hosted by Liberace!, Roswells, Art and Richard Groyper. It touched on the BellGab AV blackout, Art Bell's death anniversary, a Heather Wade update, Lit City with Anthony, and other stuff. Suck mah titties!

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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 573-837-4948.
	That's 573-837-4948.
	Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	It's the Gabcast.
	Hey, everybody.
	How you doing?
	I'm Liberace on Bellgab.
	That's what I go by over there.
	I used to go by MV, but I wanted something a little spicier.
	Roswell's art is here.
	How you doing, Roswells?
	Hi, I'm good.
	And also, we have Richard Groiper.
	How's it going, bud?
	I'm doing well.
	How are you?
	Good lord.
	You guys are like on two polar opposite ends of the Skype volume spectrum.
	But I think what will happen is as we go, the volume is going to automatically adjust.
	If you want to be on the show tonight, the number to call, by the way, I've had a few drinks, so you'll have to forgive me in that regard.
	You'll have to forgive me in that regard.
	The number to call if you want to be on the show tonight, 573-837-4948.
	It is 573-837-4948.
	This is a show called The Gabcast, and it's about Bellgab.com in a general sense.
	But, you know, I've kind of thought, while, yes, we can talk about Bellgab, that's primarily why we're here.
	And anything that warrants talking about on the forum, we're going to talk about.
	But I don't see any reason to limit it explicitly and only to that.
	I think it'd be nice just to talk about whatever we want to talk about and whatever it is that people who call in want to talk about as well.
	You could call in and talk about something you saw in the news.
	Maybe you want our commentary on, which I know you're waiting with bated breath for our commentary.
	It could be anything.
	So 573-837-4948.
	We'll be happy to talk about it.
	So, you know, I would just like to address the elephant in the room.
	I mean, the two of you have kind of gone around and around on the forum from time to time, but I think this is a sort of, this is a sort of moment in internet diplomacy.
	The two of you agreeing to be on this show together.
	And I think that it shows the evolved, adult-like nature that is each of you.
	And I think it's a moment to be proud of both of you, one and all.
	Especially you, Roswell's art, because you know what a troll Richard Groiper is.
	And so, I mean, I would expect that if you had any reason not to do the show tonight, he would have been the reason.
	But no, you just came in with a swinging pair of castanets and said, I'm going to do this show tonight.
	Come hell or high water.
	And here you are.
	So, you know what?
	Your stock went up many ticks in my opinion tonight.
	So thanks for being here.
	You're welcome.
	Are you, what kind of mic are you using, Roswells?
	Is it like a headset or is it a Sennheiser?
	Is it okay?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Just closer is better.
	And Richard, maybe you might want to back off of yours, Richard, just a smidge.
	Too much.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, just say too much.
	I can't even do that because of my mic processing.
	That makes me sound so amazing.
	I think that's going to be fine.
	Let me turn both of you up just a hair right there.
	Okay.
	So I think what I did tonight was I looked for a couple of things in the news, you know, just to throw in here or there.
	But most of the stuff I had that I was going to bring to the show tonight was just random stuff that I found on Bellgab.
	Maybe things that I had intended to talk about in the past and never got to, or things that at the time they were pressing and more, what's the word?
	Starts with a C.
	Oh, God, like present, you know, something modern, something contemporary.
	That's the word.
	You know, some of these things, when they're actually happening, you don't really want to talk about them so much, just because you kind of want to let the dust settle and see how and where it settles and then render whatever commentary maybe you have.
	So I don't know.
	I mean, like one of them that jumped out at me, I saw this aviation thread.
	It's called Aviation Thread, News, Facts, Questions, Photos, Videos, etc.
	And my thought on this right away, Richard, is Damon a part of this discussion and this thread or not?
	Because as you have revealed to the world for all to see, he is a pilot, which baffles me, but he is, and which gives me, I'd say, approximately 122% less faith in the Federal Aviation Administration, the fact that he is a pilot.
	But he is a pilot.
	And so I'm curious, have you taken a peek at this thread and seen if he happens to be involved in the discussion there?
	To be honest, no, I have not peeked at that thread.
	But you're the one who revealed for all the world to see that he is in fact a pilot, which I have not believed up until this point.
	Technically, his license expired in 2017.
	Thank God for that, because, my God, if I saw a human, I will call him human.
	He could be a demon.
	He looks like a goblin, though.
	If that was flying my plane, shit.
	I think he is unambiguously attractive, and I wish I resembled him.
	I'm Michael Van Deeven.
	Roswells, have you had any interactions with Damon?
	What were your impressions of him?
	Well, I appreciate Greyper's research on him because Damon sent me a PM unsolicited after I made a post about him being a pilot because he thought maybe I didn't believe him.
	And so he sent me an email or private message saying, this is to prove I'm a pilot.
	And it was a link to a blank form.
	And I don't know any of his information.
	I mean, I think he's from Citrus Heights, and that's about it.
	So I don't know.
	It wasn't any use to me.
	So I appreciate Groiper's research on finding out that he was actually a pilot.
	He really is sensitive about, by the way, Groiper, you're breathing into the microphone like you might not want to do the show from within your iron lung.
	You might want to step out of that thing.
	I don't know if there's oxygen involved.
	That could be dangerous.
	I don't know if that's me, though.
	Well, I don't know.
	But I don't think it was her because I heard it while she was talking.
	It was like, I don't know.
	I don't know who that was.
	But now I'm going, Ellie.
	I don't know who's making those noises, but I got to tell you, it's on my nerves.
	So, yeah, he's really sensitive, Roswell's, about people believing exactly what it is that the public perception of him has been, that he's a pilot, and he wants people to work in aerospace.
	But isn't it sort of a prerequisite when working in aerospace that you know the difference between YOUR and YOU apostrophe RE?
	I would think that you're not going to be doing a lot of trigonometry designing wing edges if you can't differentiate between those two.
	So while I'm willing to accept that he's a pilot or at least was in the past prior to the brain injury, I'm not willing to accept that he ever worked in aerospace.
	Thoughts?
	There was a brain injury, wasn't there?
	That was my impression, Roswell, from the first time I met that guy, or at least I should say from the first time I heard him on a podcast, that was my—I'll backtrack even further.
	From the first time I saw his inability to separate YOUR from YOU apostrophe, R-E, that was the moment I began to suspect some sort of a cranial event.
	He doesn't get his tenses right, or his tense right.
	You know, he'll use past tense when it's supposed to be present.
	I don't, yeah, so I think that's even worse.
	You want a story on Damon?
	I have something for you.
	And if we go back about two years, there was a former poster named G. Nori Blows.
	And God, how I love him.
	He was a treasure.
	I have to admit, I miss him too.
	And Damon has a YouTube channel, and he was on camera for all to see and speaking.
	It was a train wreck.
	And G. Nori Blows, God love him, bullied him so very much on the threads that he deleted all his videos of him speaking.
	So, yes, someone like that designing anything in the aerospace industry, we're in a lot of trouble, if that's the case.
	And he was only accredited to fly a single engine airplane, not a jetliner or anything like that.
	He's doing better than me.
	It's a commercial.
	What does that mean?
	It just said single engine.
	So anything with a single engine, which I don't think any, I mean, I guess he could fly a charter, you know, his own personal airplane, but I mean, I've showed you his hobble.
	He doesn't own a plane.
	Let's be real.
	What would you think, though, if you're sitting in the back of a beach craft and you hear your pilot up there yammering into the radio with his triple chin flapping underneath him?
	I forgot my name, but we're approaching.
	I'm sorry about that.
	I'm not quite reading you there.
	Could you say that again for me there, Sir?
	Again, I don't remember my name but I'm in an airplane and we flying.
	Oh, it's a cloud.
	So we're putting it all over.
	I don't know how much confidence I would feel inspired by in that situation.
	The only reason that like we're being so, at least from my personal perspective, being so personally, I don't know, aggressive toward him and about him is because he went about all of the various antivirus suites that people are foolish enough to run on their computers that allow,
	I mean, I just can't wrap my brain around running some sort of antivirus suite on my computer that's just going to arbitrarily decide for me which websites I can visit and which ones I can't.
	And so he went around to all of these different antivirus companies.
	He went to, I think, McAfee.
	He went to Kaspersky.
	He went to OpenDNS, which is not antivirus, but the net effect is the same.
	You couldn't browse to the site, and he reported that Belgab had been spreading malware and that the owner of Belgab, that's me, had inserted malware into his computer.
	I mean, that's libelous, is it not?
	I mean, I would think that's legally actionable.
	I mean, you're going online and you're accusing me of having committed a crime that I didn't commit.
	And with your name out there and your address and all of your personal information and your photo with all of the clients I have who are attorneys that love me to death, that's not, I don't think that's smart.
	No.
	And anyone who looks like that, speaks like that, probably should be jailed just on that fact alone.
	That's just my opinion.
	It could be extreme, but that's how I feel.
	Have you checked the state registries in California to validate any of your potential suspicions?
	I did not run the full background check and suite on Mr. Damon Lake, but yeah, I just did my video.
	He's a scumbag.
	He's a piece of shit.
	Ooh, those are fighting words.
	Himself a behind-the-scenes doxer.
	So I gave him a taste of his own medicine so he can kiss my ass.
	And you faggots out there, you know who I'm talking about, can kiss my ass too.
	Well, you know something?
	The juxtaposition of his online persona, how he wants to aggressively make things difficult for other people and cause problems for other people.
	That juxtaposed with his photo for my money, there's no bigger hoot I'm going to encounter this week.
	I'll put it that way.
	I find that rather entertaining.
	And on this subject, here's something else I have to address.
	I have been in Star Mountain, if you're out there, you're free to call in.
	I'll have a frank, honest, open discussion with you about whatever it is that's crawled into your vagina over the course of the last four months or whatever.
	But apparently I have changed somehow.
	I'll tell you what it was.
	I got some vaccinations a few weeks ago, actually, a few months ago, and I think it's that themerosol.
	I think it got to me and it conditioned me to not any longer be the person that Star Mountain would like me to be.
	I don't know what the issue is.
	But speaking on this Damon issue, here's a guy who goes out and tries to effectively eliminate Belgab from the internet, which it was only a temporary thing.
	It could only be temporary because naturally we're eventually going to resolve that problem.
	It was just a headache, you know.
	But he goes out and does this.
	And here's, and someone said something about, what is Damon an idiot?
	Why is he doing this?
	And I said, you can't expect Damon's brain to work any better than his slobbering stroke mouth.
	And Star Mountain responded to that post.
	And again, I'm sorry, I'm drinking a little bit here.
	I don't drink very much.
	So when I do, I'm like a three-year-old girl.
	I just, as a matter of fact, I'm urinating on myself right now.
	You can't see it, but it's happening.
	Star Mountain responded to that.
	Hello, Michael.
	It's been a very long time since I've been here on or offline.
	We used to be good friends a few years ago.
	I don't understand what's happened to you, but that's none of my business now.
	So apparently it was her business at some point, but I've gone beyond the threshold of acceptability, and she's washed her hands of me.
	She says, Damon has a good heart and an honest soul.
	You used to know that.
	Okay, so Star Mountain, here's a guy who goes out all over the internet, sacheting around, releasing the private information of other people and attempting to shut down websites that are operating legally and have a right to be online.
	And you want to preach to me about what a good and honest soul he is and how I used to know that.
	She continued, there's still a place in my heart for you.
	Oh, thank God for that because I've been losing sleep.
	I'm stepping back from what you experienced.
	This is what she, from what you experiencing now, but I'm ready to back you when you remember whom you really are.
	Love you, Michael.
	The passive aggression contained in this missive from you, Star Mountain, and everything you have said to me, none of which I've, well, I take that back.
	I retract that.
	I have responded to a couple of those messages, but they were very short responses.
	I will say this.
	But the level of passive aggression in this response is part of the reason that I don't really talk to you anymore.
	It's because you are not communicating for the purpose of communicating with anybody.
	Everything you post these days is some sort of a veiled passive, aggressive attack on someone else, whether it's Brig, usually it's Brig.
	And I think the problem there is that she's upset that someone in her same age group apparently is friends with me because she was supposed to be my only friend in that age group.
	She was supposed to be my only 60-plus female friend living alone in an apartment.
	And since Brig and I are chummy, you know, we talk on Voxer pretty regularly.
	I don't know.
	That's the only thing I can put my finger on to cause this lady to start going bat shit on me.
	But I've responded very little to any of it.
	And I was going through the forum tonight and finding just random things to talk about.
	And this came across my screen.
	And I thought, you know what?
	It is time to talk about this on some level.
	Go ahead, Roswell.
	I was just going to say, I think, yeah, she is being manipulative with her posts towards you.
	But I think her perspective might be that she blames Brig for the change in the whole Gabcast, or I'm sorry, the Bell Gab forum, Because it used to be a lot more people talking about, you know, ideas.
	And now it's more...
	Nazis.
	Don't try to be diplomatic.
	Just say what's on your mind there, sweetie.
	Well, yeah, you know, people are doing each other.
	Right.
	Like Grieper and I. As well as, you know, other people doing that.
	And I think she blames Brig for that atmosphere.
	But I can't begin to put my finger.
	I will say this.
	Brig is one of Belgab's most effective and skulled trolls.
	And I've commented on this in the past on Gabcasts, how I love the fact that I'm the owner of the website and I'm so celebratory of someone who is actively and successfully trolling people on my own website.
	I mean, that is just, that's a particular alignment of the universe that I don't think usually happens on message boards.
	You know, usually the owner of the forum would have their panties all watted up real tight.
	They'd just be blue in the face, upset.
	Got to get rid of those trolls.
	They're hassling my users, bringing down the page views.
	The last thing you want to hear from Brig is, I'm a big fan of you.
	I know.
	You know what, Brig?
	I love you, but every time you tell me you like the bullcrap that I do online, a little piece of me dies inside because I see some of the other bullshit that you like and enjoy.
	And I just think to myself, okay, well, I'm actually a part of that listening routine on her part.
	I'm not sure what this says about me, but I'm not thinking it's a good thing because some of the other stuff she listens to and really, really enjoys, I mean, like, wholeheartedly endorses.
	I don't know.
	I mean, she's got a lot of time on her hands.
	I mean, what can I say?
	When you're 60 plus and you're retired, you don't have to work.
	Like, I'm just trying to imagine my day-to-day life.
	If I didn't have any kids to take care of, if I didn't have a business to run, if I didn't have really any reason or need to leave the place I live in on a daily basis, what in the fuck would I do with my day?
	I can't even, I don't, so I think I would be doing the same.
	I would find like, I don't know.
	I would find like Michael Savage Gab and just go on there and be trolling.
	I don't have any other hobbies.
	I mean, she doesn't even have to leave where she lives to go get food because they have like community dinners and stuff.
	Well, I don't know if they do dinner, but I'm pretty sure they do breakfast and lunch.
	I think maybe they let all the old people fend for themselves and they just starve in the hallways, crawling around, scratching at the baseboard, looking for dead rats when dinner time comes along.
	But breakfast and lunch, they're going to take care of you because we care about our elders in this building.
	I don't know what's going on over there in Briggs building, but sounds like a rough sitch, if you ask me.
	So, Star Mountain, I don't know what's changed about me.
	And if some, what am I supposed to do?
	i supposed to ban brig am i supposed why because Because you don't like her from an attitudinal standpoint?
	Is that what I'm supposed to do?
	Or I just don't understand it.
	But clearly, Star Mountain, based on just this post of yours that I read here, you have an entirely unmistakable misassessment of the situation when you get online and publicly state that Damon has a good heart and an honest soul.
	She doesn't have a good judgment of people, I think.
	I mean, she also likes White Crow.
	She thinks he's a really good person.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	Thank you.
	I knew there was a reason to bring you on this show tonight.
	Good Lord.
	That's a perfect point.
	I mean, like, if there's ever been someone more disingenuous, I even said to white, I almost called him White Troll.
	I almost said to White Crow one night, I don't think I've ever had one honest conversation with you where you seemed like you were a real person.
	I never felt like I had a direct conversation with you where it felt like I was having an interaction with anything other than an avatar of something, some sort of an image that an individual on the internet wanted to project.
	And I think you're so spot on Roswell's that she lacks the ability to properly judge other people and to interpret those sorts of signals and make conclusions based on them.
	And it's caused her to get everything ass backwards.
	I'm the only good guy around here.
	Well, she doesn't like you, though.
	I don't think she does like me.
	I think she likes to pretend that she likes me, but I think that ship sailed quite some time ago.
	But as Brig would say, I could be wrong.
	Ooh, did I say that?
	Oh, gosh.
	Speaking of White Crow, what's I mean?
	He didn't make it, right?
	He did.
	Mrs. Crow and I have talked.
	We're trying to reach some sort of an emotional understanding of what happens to you when you die, because I want to give her some comfort.
	I don't want Miss Crow, Miss White Crow, or we'll just call her Miss Crow.
	I don't want her aimlessly bouncing about thinking that her husband, who's passed on into the ether, I don't want her thinking that he just became nothing.
	You know, I want her to understand that his consciousness remains.
	He's up there.
	You know what?
	God needed an internet troll.
	That's what I told her.
	I said, God needed an internet troll, needed an internet troll.
	That's hard to say when you've been drinking.
	And so White Crow is no longer with us, but he remains in spirit.
	His text, his posts are preserved for all time for everybody to see.
	And he's going to live on in that form.
	And I take solace in that.
	And I have done everything within my power to bring her comfort.
	And in fact, the entire Crow family.
	I speak to one of his daughters on Tuesdays, a son of his on Fridays, and a niece on Wednesdays.
	So I'm really counseling the whole family.
	I'm doing what I can.
	And anybody who wants to say I'm not doing my part, you don't know what you're talking about.
	That's really nice.
	You're providing a service.
	I'm a good man.
	I did my part.
	I unzip my pants and I pissed on his hoodie in the memory of White Crow.
	So say we all.
	Did you get a hoodie?
	Did you two actually get a hoodie?
	I never got a hoodie.
	I was offered a hoodie.
	I didn't accept.
	No.
	I was hoping you did get a hoodie, Richard Groiper, because I wanted to just know within myself that you gave White Crow your home address.
	That's what I was hoping for.
	I guess not.
	He doesn't like me.
	He's too low energy.
	He doesn't have the T levels to compete with us younger males.
	So I don't know why he was.
	Go ahead.
	I think that's why he was doing that.
	I think I was like trying to get everybody's information.
	I'm surprised that he didn't offer to give you one.
	No, he seemed to target the females.
	And it's very obvious that he was a lady killer.
	So he probably has quite a body count racked up in his attic.
	I've heard that he's not particularly attractive, but he's very girthy.
	Thoughts?
	I have no idea what he looks like, but I would agree.
	He sounds a little overweight, and he sounds like he sits in a chair for long periods of time.
	He sounds like he has a mustache, doesn't he?
	Doesn't he just sound like everyone who's ever hassled you in your life who had a mustache?
	Yeah.
	I mean, think back on your life.
	Anytime you've been hassled by somebody, anytime somebody's given you shit, anytime somebody's tried to mess up your day, threaten your job, cost you money, or otherwise impede you, they have had a mustache.
	I wouldn't go that far, but yeah.
	I would.
	And you're wrong not to.
	No, it hasn't been my experience, but yeah.
	Well, your experiences are fundamentally flawed.
	Mine are correct and accurate to this universe and what it represents.
	Okay, so I would just like to say that going forward, those of you who experience any of these sorts of blackouts where you can't reach the forum, you know, something is preventing you from getting on the forum, whether it's an antivirus suite that you shouldn't be running on your computer anyway, particularly if you're running Windows 10.
	Just run the antivirus that comes with Windows 10 and be done with it!
	But if you're having these problems, the only way that we're going to be able to get around it is for you to proactively go report that to whatever entity is wrongly blocking bellgab.com.
	I mean, I can't keep up with this, and I don't run any of these antivirus suites either.
	So there's a really strong chance that if something like this happens again, I'm not going to know it for quite some time until somebody comes on the forum and says that it's happened.
	So those are my thoughts.
	So there was the anniversary of Art Bell on April 13th.
	And so that was about almost two weeks ago.
	And I was going to do a sort of like Art Bell death anniversary show and just get some people together and talk about art.
	And Roswells, did I ask you to be on that?
	I can't remember.
	You did.
	Okay.
	But I ended up not doing it for a couple of reasons.
	Number one, I asked Morgus if he would be on, but I never got a response.
	And number two, I was still getting over the flu.
	What'd you say?
	I said, that would have been cool.
	Morgus.
	Well, I thought he was a good choice because he's just such a walking encyclopedia of all things Art Bell history.
	I can't imagine any facet of Art Bell's radio career that you're going to mention that Morgus isn't going to be able to tell you all about.
	So I thought he would be a great person to have on the show, but I never got a response from him.
	Plus, I was still coming off of the flu.
	You know, the last Gabcast we did, what was that, like the fourth, something like that?
	I was already sick when we did that show.
	And after the show was over, immediately after that show was over, I totally lost my voice.
	And I am just like two days ago, I finally got over the cough that I had as a result of that flu.
	I really do think I might need to go get tested for the HIV or something because I'm not getting over these flu instances the way I once did.
	Is that what happens to you as you approach 40?
	What's the HEV?
	HIV.
	I think so.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	I think I'm battling the HIV because I'm just not shaking this flu like I used to.
	And I mean, we're talking, I got sick like even during the last Gabcast.
	I mean, I can go back and think about it and realize that I was not firing on all barrels there.
	And then just like only two days ago did I finally get over the cough from that.
	So clearly, the owner of Belgab.com is dying.
	And you better start placing bids now.
	I have a cure.
	I mean, if you want to hear it.
	I do.
	Well, here's the dumb thing.
	I mean, apparently it's not.
	Hold on, Roswell.
	Hold on, Roswells.
	It is you, the breathing sound.
	Just move the mic, like, south of your mouth or something.
	Vindicated.
	Is that better or is that worse?
	I think it may be better.
	I can't be sure.
	How's this?
	How's this?
	That may be better.
	I mean, this mic, it's new.
	I think you can hear my hair grow even with it.
	No, it's still doing it.
	No, it's still doing it.
	Actually, move it below your mouth.
	It is below my mouth.
	Is it really?
	Do you have like a tracheotomy or something that's blowing on it then?
	Because I don't understand what's happening.
	Or just move it further away.
	Out of my nose.
	Just try moving it further away, maybe.
	Is that any better?
	Is that better?
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	What were you going to say about your cure?
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I mean, people joke about it on the George Norris Sex Thread, but because it has chaga in it, and apparently that's advertised on Coast to Coast.
	Arctic chaga?
	Yeah.
	But no, it's a mushroom supplement, and it's got all these different mushrooms in it.
	And I was feeling like crap, and I wasn't getting any better for some reason.
	And I started taking them, and I feel a lot better.
	Really?
	So you don't think that this was any form of placebo or anything like that?
	You think it was a genuine recovery?
	No, yes.
	I believe that now because I stopped taking them thinking that, oh, well, you know, took a couple of bottles and it made me feel better.
	But, you know, now I'm out.
	So I stopped taking them.
	And no, I started feeling like crap again.
	And then I bought some more.
	And then, yeah, I felt better.
	And that happened a couple times when I just stopped taking them.
	Well, my flu is one of the reasons that we didn't do an Art Bell anniversary show.
	But you know, you want to know something else that kind of in my subconscious was a reason.
	I just feel so disenchanted with the whole Art Bell universe and all things Art Bell and the people connected to him and the events surrounding him and the like if you go look at the whitewashing of history.
	Like if you were to go ask Keith Rowland right now, did Bellgab.com have anything to do with Art's return to radio in either 2013 or 2015?
	He would tell you, hell no.
	And so would the people around him.
	Yet I think there are plenty of people around Bellgab that if you were to ask that same question would unequivocally state yes.
	And Belgab may be the reason that Art came back in 2013 and again in 2015.
	Because if you go back to 2013, there wasn't any sort of community like Bellgab that was as ferocious in expressing its desire for art to return to radio.
	Yeah.
	And I think that that served as the nucleus to inspire him to do so.
	I mean, you know that on artbell.com when Keith Rowland was going up there and he was pasting those, he was posting those exclamation marks, those colored exclamation marks, and the color would change every day or two.
	And every time it would change, everybody, not only is it an exclamation mark, but the color's changing.
	What does it mean?
	People were going bat shit all over the forum.
	There's no way Art and Keith were not sitting there just gut laughing looking at the reactions to that on Bellgab.
	Know that Bellgab had to have a significant effect.
	And I mean, hell, people from Bellgab were coming up with all kinds of show ideas that Art was using.
	They were naming the Halloween show Spooky Matter.
	I think that was someone named Steelbot who used to use Bellgab.
	There were just all kinds of examples of input from Bellgab that had a direct effect on that show, and I think a direct effect on Art returning to do that show.
	And even more so in 2015.
	I mean, look at all the promotion that people involved with Belgab did.
	Even the Times Square advertisement that was the result of people from Belgab getting together and pooling their money to buy an ad on that big Jumbotron in Times Square.
	I mean, so I've become a little disenchanted with the whole Art Bell universe.
	I've become uninterested in the people that he surrounded himself by and how dishonest they were.
	Like, two seconds after Art left, what was it, Midnight?
	I get confused.
	Two seconds after Art left Midnight in the Desert and quit doing that show, Keith Rowland went to artbell.com and removed the link to bellgab.com.
	I mean, like, does that not give some indication as to what his frame of mind was?
	That Art quits his show after only, what, five or six months?
	And the first thing.
	Yeah, well, this was that was dark matter, but the Midnight in the Desert, I think he made it like five months.
	Let's see, July son.
	Yeah, five months he made it on Midnight in the Desert.
	But I think that just gives a real window into Keith's frame of mind and his way of thinking that Art quits that show, which is just a nuclear bomb blowing up in everybody's face, particularly anybody who was directly involved with that show and had a financial interest in its continued ongoing existence and operation.
	He quits, and that's the first thing Keith thinks to do is to go to artbell.com and remove the link to Belgab.
	So stuff like that, just the lack of appreciation, the whitewashing of history, the dishonesty on the part of people like Keith and other people associated with art who want to now pretend that Belgab had nothing to do with any of that.
	I've just developed such a negative attitude about all of it that even if I didn't have the flu, even if Morgus had done the show, I'm not really sure that I would have wound up doing it.
	And if I had done it, it would have been sort of by the numbers and without at least any real soul or enthusiasm on my part.
	He's going to change your mind, I think, after a couple Art Bell clips, I think.
	From time to time, I'll encounter Art Bell clips here and there.
	And it's sort of like I kind of feel like I saw behind the curtain the wizard behind the curtain.
	I saw him in action a few too many times.
	Right.
	Going real here, Art Bell, the person was a piece of shit.
	And his radio talent, he was obviously, you know, a Hall of Fame type talent.
	But yeah, like you said, his personal life bled over way too much.
	And goddamn, that guy.
	He was a manipulator.
	I mean, that guy was into all kinds of fuckery.
	And it's really hard to sit over here and cry over his casket like we've lost an angel to this earth when we know what he's done.
	You know, sans the radio career.
	That's how I feel about it.
	Heather.
	Oh, call in, you coward.
	I am Richard Groiper.
	You know, I've got a few drinks in me.
	And, well, I'll say this in just a moment.
	We have a caller.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, how's it going?
	Pretty good.
	How you doing, buddy?
	I'm doing well tonight.
	I was there.
	I was there during all of it.
	Do you want to hear a little story?
	Oh, I love stories.
	Is everybody clothed in the story or not?
	Well, most of us were.
	That's good enough for me to carry on by.
	So anyway, I was an enthusiastic new member of Bellgab.
	Oh, just having a great time commiserating with people of like mind that liked Art Bell.
	Love this show.
	Nostalgia.
	Everything you want.
	I gave money for that Times Square ad.
	I donated that money.
	$400?
	$400?
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Remember, I'm bitter.
	I thought this was bitter rapping.
	No, I forgot.
	So anyway, I donated that money.
	And Heather said, I'll give it back to you.
	On the air, she said, I'll give it back to you on the show.
	And I gave her my email address.
	She never responded.
	Never responded.
	No, you have to tell.
	You have to talk about how she said to you in private messages or whatever that art would really like this or something like that.
	Like trying to make it.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	No, she sold it.
	I mean, she went just shy of selling herself, but she sold art very well.
	Man, it's almost like someone sold her in the past.
	Creepy.
	Yeah, well, it sounded like she was trying to get the money from you, but by saying Art would really appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	She was the pimp for Art Bell.
	Correct.
	I got rolled.
	That's okay.
	I admit it.
	I'm a human.
	I got rolled.
	But you know what?
	It's still worth, I mean, that $400, even the story now is worth it to talk about her and Art.
	Pretty neat.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, that really is.
	I mean, I'm not saying that, I mean, if Heather wasn't going to give the money back to you, the thing to do would be to say, hey, I don't have any control over whether Art continues doing his show.
	And I think you knew the potential situation when you put the money in.
	So, no, I'm not going to give it back to you.
	That would have been the thing to say to you, not, I'm going to give it back to you, and then just proceed to ignore your emails or any other form of communication.
	Correct.
	Yeah, that's, well, you know, something that is par for the course, as far as I'm concerned.
	And, I mean, I just, I will say this.
	I think that Heather herself stated that she began communicating with art years before Bell Gab even existed.
	And if you listen to that, If you listen to that parody of Driver's Seat, Desert Heat, 2002, 2002, she's on the phone and can get through.
	Email will do.
	Email will do.
	You know something?
	That is a direct reference to that admission on her part.
	And I think.
	On the last, well, remember the last GabCast?
	We had that clip where she called in.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, come on.
	Well, I don't know how much can be made of that because I didn't really get any specific indication that he was familiar with her during that call.
	But I will say this.
	I think that he was definitely familiar with her in the context of her emailing him or communicating with him outside the radio show.
	And I think that the primary reason Heather wound up where she is is because Art Bell wanted to have sex with her.
	I'm not saying he did, but I have no doubt that he wanted to.
	I mean, I'm a married man, and I'm just imagining if I met some broad on the internet and moved her, what, six or 700 miles away.
	I don't know how far she moved, but we're talking hundreds of miles to a guest house next door.
	A former stripper moved her into a guest house next door.
	I'm going to mentor her.
	Let me tell you something.
	When I was young, I was very tussleable, and I had a few instances where creepy people told me they wanted to mentor me, and I knew exactly what that meant.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, you know what?
	Who's it says on Bell Gab, Chevys gave Heather 400 bucks and didn't get a happy ending?
	Well, we all saw that.
	So, I mean, that's priceless, isn't it?
	You can't put a price on those cheeks being spread.
	I think at most strip clubs, if you're willing to hand $400 over to a stripper, there should be a pretty solid chance you could take her home that night.
	I mean, that's...
	And Gravity Sucks is posting.
	I think that should go.
	Remember Cuck Man himself?
	Chevy told Heather he didn't want to go back to that.
	I don't think I can update Belgab because my internet is really spotty.
	What kind of internet do you have, Roswell?
	I don't want to talk about it.
	All right.
	I think it's DSL.
	Can you hear me still?
	Yeah.
	Do you not have cable internet?
	I can check into it because which is infinitely superior, usually costs about the same as what you're already paying for the DSL.
	A lot of people don't know that.
	Great.
	I didn't know that.
	But I was actually hoping to maybe upgrade even before the show just because I was worried that, you know, I won't come in very well.
	It's acceptable.
	I mean, you're intelligible.
	That's good enough for me.
	So, Chefist, are you going to, I don't know.
	I mean, what are you going to rectify this $400 situation in any way?
	Are you going to are you going to do anything about it?
	Or have you just gone ahead and written it off?
	You know what?
	You have to write things off in your life.
	People, money, debt.
	And I wrote it off a long time ago, but you know what?
	I learned a lot.
	I learned a lot about it.
	And I'm glad to have donated because at the time I thought it was the right thing to do.
	Only later on I learned otherwise.
	But yeah, that was it.
	So you guys have a good night.
	Great show.
	Fascinating.
	And I'll continue to listen.
	Thanks, Betty.
	You have a good night.
	We appreciate it.
	That was Chefist.
	Does anybody know?
	Does anybody have any idea what's happening with Heather?
	I mean, I hate to even ask that question because it presents a suggestion that I necessarily am wrapped up in caring about that.
	But I do, on a certain level, I am just curious from a morbid sort of curiosity standpoint.
	Is there any sort of update?
	I mean, did she move?
	Is she still in the cuck shack in Nye?
	Well, some people with like some sort of internet search looked her up and said that she's now back in, what was it?
	Somewhere in California, where is she from?
	Eureka or something in California.
	She's living there now.
	But, you know, Jedi Miller says that he's 100% sure she is in Primp still.
	But Jedi Miller has doesn't have a big grasp on facts, I think.
	Oh, that's fighting words.
	He's a non-credible source.
	He discredited himself a few nights ago on the air.
	People called him out.
	The host called him out.
	He was talking bullshit.
	I don't know if you heard the epic incident when the police came a calling to Heather's house, that whole incident.
	I'm not sure if you heard that.
	He claimed that she was in the bathtub during that, and the police broke down her door, and that didn't happen.
	We all heard it on the air.
	She was doing the show in her studio, and she went to the door.
	How do you know she wasn't doing the show from a bathtub?
	Let me tell you something.
	If it were technically possible to be doing this show from my bathtub right now, that would be pretty tough to turn down.
	Okay, granted, I can't prove that, but we all heard in the background that they didn't break into her house.
	She was speaking to them.
	And his claim was that they, you know, SWAT team style, busted down her door and pretty much almost murdered her.
	And that never happened.
	And he was called out on it, a caller called.
	And it also turns out he also made a welfare call under a different name.
	He admitted it.
	The guy's full of shit.
	He's discredited.
	Close the book on him.
	At any point during that broadcast, did anybody hear anything that sounded like water being squeezed from a loofah?
	Because I'm not sure necessarily that this is inaccurate information.
	That's not even a good lie.
	Like, if you're going to lie, at least try and make the lie good.
	I mean, why would anybody think she was bathing during the time she was on the air?
	Why would that be a good lie?
	That's not even very skillful as lies go.
	This fellow wants attention.
	He's an attention whore.
	So he'll wrap anything, any story, anything involving whatever, you know, this universe into himself so he can promote himself.
	And it's as simple as that.
	I mean, he's full of shit.
	So to everybody's best knowledge, Heather has moved back to California.
	I wonder what she's doing.
	I wonder if she made enough money both between her like her solo endeavor when she left Keith and what she was doing when she was with Keith to not work for a while.
	That seems a little hard for me to believe.
	Because I did ask Dave Schrader.
	We were on the phone chit-chatting one time, and I said, look, how much money was Heather making doing that show?
	He wouldn't give me an exact dollar amount, but he said it was about what you would make at a typical average job.
	So she wasn't getting rich doing the show.
	So taking that knowledge into account, I can't imagine that she amassed enough of a nest egg that she could just sit around and not work for a long time.
	I'm guessing she's either living with somebody, I should say living off of somebody, or she's living by herself and her time doing so is incredibly limited unless she's gone back to doing what she was doing, Which I think she was doing like customer support for some company from her home before she started doing it was legit customer support, like for a cable.
	You know what you could call that customer support.
	I mean, I'll tell you this, I would feel far more supported from that customer service rep than I would from any guy working for Charter.
	I'll tell you this.
	So no, but it was legit.
	Not to say phone sex operator isn't a legit living.
	I mean, I would never shame anyone for anything they're doing that's legal, that they're using to make a buck.
	I mean, we've all got to make our way in this world.
	So I wouldn't call any of her prior jobs illegitimate necessarily, but you know they do raise an eyebrow and they are worth a chuckle.
	You can chuckle, you can certainly do that.
	I'm sorry caller, I took a long time to get to you.
	Hello, oh hi.
	This is uh, this is Anthony HP400K.
	I'm glad you called in because you were on my list of subjects to discuss tonight.
	I was going to ask how you're doing and what's up with you.
	I'm all right.
	Before I even get started actually, I'm sorry before I get started MV, I'm locked out at Bellgab.
	I forgot my password.
	If you could just send me a reset link to my email.
	Okay I'll, I'll do my best.
	Can you tell me?
	Can you tell me what the email address is associated with your Bellgab account?
	Or would you rather not say that on the air?
	I don't care, it's you got a pen.
	I'm just gonna look you up right now while you're saying it, all right, it's AC400ki at yahoo.com.
	Okay yeah, that's you all right.
	Yeah, I'll take care of it.
	I'll just send you a temporary password and you can use that too.
	This is probably a total hacker.
	I've just been social engineered right now and I'm gonna give anonymous Anthony's.
	No no, it really is me.
	I'm in Manhattan.
	I'm at least.
	I'm right here.
	Right, we're in Manhattan right now.
	Okay, I can't confirm it's him.
	I ran the voice scan, it's him, 100.
	Listen, send me three questionable pictures of your girlfriend.
	I'll unlock the account.
	It'll all be great.
	Oh, I don't know if she's okay with that.
	Well, let's just ask her and find out.
	There's business to be done here.
	Go ahead, Anthony.
	I'm sorry hi no, I mean, I do have a question.
	You know being so, being it's so close that we just got past arts first anniversary.
	See if it's passing, unfortunately.
	I just want to know what everybody felt about, this is another kind of radio show kind of circle that I follow.
	Are you familiar with Sam Roberts and what he said about Arbell's passing a year ago?
	What did you feel about that?
	Sam Roberts.
	I know Sam Roberts, but I know Sam Roberts, but am I familiar with what he said about Arts What?
	About Arbell passing away last year.
	Oh, no.
	What did he say?
	I don't know because he did like a whole 15 or 20 minute thing on his podcast, I guess, whatever he does aside from the Jim and Sam show.
	And like, apparently, he got a lot of backlash from a lot of Arbell fans, and he made a separate video on his YouTube channel.
	And I was just wondering what everybody felt about it.
	You should go on to YouTube and check it out.
	Can you give me the, by the way, Sam Roberts is a guy who started out on the Opie and Anthony show as just sort of a behind-the-scenes producer, and he slowly got his way onto the air more and more over the years until it got to the point that he was hosting an after-show with various people who are also background sort of peripheral figures in the broadcast.
	And eventually he got to the point where he was doing a full-fledged show on Sirius XM with Jim Norton, who is a comedian and a former member of the Opian Anthony show.
	So that's who Sam Roberts is.
	Could you give me sort of a synopsis, just sort of a brief rundown of what it is that Sam Roberts said that had everybody worked up?
	Well, he was talking about, you know, he was just generally talking about Arpell's legacy, but he was getting a lot of things wrong.
	He was getting a lot of factual things wrong.
	I think he said Arbell was like 86 or 87 years old when they think Art was actually 72 when he passed.
	But I mean minor things like that.
	But generally he was just talking about how Art and how his determination and his drive and the way he had with himself with his listeners, how he became so successful.
	And the way he talked to his audience, that's what made the show the show.
	But then a lot of people, for some reason, took exception to this and sent him a lot of messages, a lot of hate messages, I guess.
	And they were basically saying that Sam Roberts will never attain the level of neurotypical or success that Arbell had.
	And it was just, I don't know, it was just this whole thing.
	I just wanted to see what everybody felt about that.
	I mean, when I actually saw it a year ago, what Sam Roberts put out, I thought it was actually pretty, you know, it was pretty humble and admirable.
	I thought he was being pretty honest.
	And, you know, I thought it was a nice, somebody that probably, and even Jim Norton himself, because I was a very, very big Opie and Anthony fan for many, many years.
	I was actually associated with those circles for a while.
	I actually hung out with Bobo for a while with Danny Carl.
	Did you really?
	Yes, I did.
	He lives in Massbith.
	I know where he lives.
	I know exactly where he lives.
	I won't show up, but I mean, there's always a possibility of me crossing paths with him on the 7 train.
	But I did hang out with him for a while.
	Is he still urinating blood?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I haven't, I kind of lost touch with that circle for a while.
	Did he ever show you his deformed penis?
	No, no, but I did meet Mr. Malunigans and Rose.
	Because I would have to have asked Bobo to show me his penis.
	Not because I necessarily want to see another man's penis.
	It's just that the penis was so famous, you know?
	Yeah, no, I never got to see it, no.
	You know, what kind of an insult is that to throw at Sam Roberts?
	You'll never be gum on the bottom of our bow show.
	Well, who's going to be?
	I mean, first and foremost, just because the world has changed so much since those days, I mean, once Rush Limbaugh, for example, once he dies, that will be the end.
	That will be the last of the great, and I don't mean great as in, you must agree with me that Rush Limbaugh is correct.
	What I mean is, just in terms of audience and presence and relevance and impact, all of those metrics that you would use to judge somebody in radio.
	When Rush Limbaugh goes, that's going to be the end of it.
	There's never going to be another rush.
	There's never going to be an Art Bell.
	And I mean that in terms of audience size primarily.
	And I would say that the main reason for that is just simply the fact that people have so many options when it comes to where they're going to get their entertainment from.
	You can't consolidate everybody like you once were able to.
	I mean, I can assure you that had I been, had I had all the entertainment options at my disposal that I have today, I would never have tuned to AM Radio in 1992 and found Rush Limbaugh.
	And then, as a result of that, found Art Bell.
	And so I don't really see that as being a particularly effective insult for anybody to throw at Sam Roberts.
	You're never going to be Art Bell.
	Well, nobody's going to be, especially anybody starting today.
	I mean, we've gone from a world where your successful radio hosts are instead going to primarily be successful podcasters.
	And of those people, just about the largest audiences you're going to see are people like Joe Rogan, who have two or three million listeners, not the 25 million that Rush Limbaugh has per week or the 15 million that Art Bell had at his peak.
	You're not going to see that anymore.
	Anyway, that's interesting that you're a huge fan of Opium, Anthony, but I know that living in your neck of the woods, they were pretty hard to avoid.
	And I found them as a result of driving a truck all over the country years and years ago and having SiriusXM in my truck.
	And they started with SiriusXM.
	No, it was just XM at that time.
	It was a much better listening experience in those days, by the way, before the two companies merged.
	But after they got fired for encouraging two people to have sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral on the air, they were fired by, I think, Cumulus.
	I think that's who they were working for.
	I could be wrong about that.
	Ibreg.
	But after they got fired from there, they had to go on vacation effectively and get paid not to work for two years.
	Then they went to XM in 2004, and that's when I found them.
	And I followed them from 2004 all the way up until the end of effectively the end of their careers when Anthony got fired in 20, what was it, 2014?
	Forget in the fight with the black lady.
	I think it was Instagram.
	Yeah, he had took some pictures, and they said they kind of said it was racist or something.
	I don't know what the whole thing was about that.
	Well, Anthony, go ahead, Richard.
	Anthony.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	We got to hear it from you, buddy.
	Say it.
	Waiting for it.
	Okay, I know everybody's probably whoever's listening, so I've been waiting to hear this live.
	10, 10, 20, fuck them.
	Lisa, look at me.
	Yeah, we're keeping it lit tonight.
	Lisa want to go on there?
	No, she doesn't want to know.
	All right.
	Well, did she hear my photo request?
	I mean, was that well received?
	I don't know.
	I think she was sleeping, actually.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe it woke her up.
	So, Anthony, I saw you had posted some allusions to battles with mental illness that you have gone through.
	And I just want to say I hope you're doing okay, and I want to encourage you to surround yourself with normal people.
	And don't take the word normal as an insult.
	It's just to say that normal is what everybody else is and you are not to quote Star Trek generations.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's also, yeah.
	But seriously, surround yourself with normal people and get outside and walk around in the woods.
	I used to have panic attacks like 15 years ago.
	And what I did was I just started walking in the forest on nice, beautiful sunny days with my dog.
	I mean, like hikes that took four hours beginning to end.
	And that was the end of those problems.
	And I mean, I've long since stopped doing that.
	And even having stopped, I'm not having panic attacks or any of that.
	Although I will say that I'm not aware of you specifically stating you have panic attacks, but I think you, I'm assuming you probably do because that seems to me kind of part and parcel with that whole, you know, being mentally compromised.
	Well, let me say this because I know everybody listening, you, MB, you know, Richard Goyper, Roswells, anybody that's listening that was following my journey across the country, this is the thing.
	All the way up until like a couple weeks before that, it took me, I would go out after work and I would drive.
	It would take like, I would take everything inside of me to like go literally like 10 minutes down the road down the Palisades Parkway from Stony Point to New City, which is like two or three exits, 10 minutes, and I would literally be almost having a coronary.
	And I drove all the way across the country and I overcame everything.
	So anybody out there that's like dealing with anything like that, anything with anxiety or any sort of fear or phobias, I mean, you can overcome it.
	I know why I overcame mine.
	And I mean, I've been fighting this thing since like 2008.
	I mean, aside from my whole entire after midnight kind of side project that I was doing with this whole thing that was going on between the message boards and on Facebook, you know, this part of me is like I am a young aspiring leader in something that's called the psychiatric survivor movement.
	And we fight and we advocate for rights of people that are diagnosed with mental health diagnoses.
	And we advocate for them and we want because we get a lot of times, I mean, a lot of times, to be honest, a lot of us wind up dead and we get killed by the police.
	And I mean, right now, my personal situation, not to get too deep into it, I mean, I'm kind of sort of in a little situation now, and hopefully it resolves itself.
	But I mean, there's a slight possibility I may wind up hospitalized.
	But I mean, that would be like the equivalent of putting Malcolm X in a Klan meeting.
	So I saw that you had stated online that you're no longer able to drive.
	They took your driver's license away.
	Is that right?
	No, no.
	What happened was my driver's license expired, but I needed all my documents to go to the DMV so I could renew it.
	But the problem is the car that I've been driving the whole time, it's in a lockup in New Jersey, and it's like $1,200 to get out of it.
	And all my identifying documents, like my passport and my tax information, my birth certificate, stuff like that, is locked up in the trunk.
	Well, I think the obvious thing to do here is to start up a GoFundMe, and we'll put a link to it in the main menu at Bellgab so that people can help you get out there, get your driver's license situation squared away, and get back to living life.
	Yeah, I know.
	I hear you.
	You don't sound too enthusiastic about that, though.
	I'm trying to come up with schemes and mechanisms to get you free money.
	You sound rather unenthused.
	I know.
	I just, I mean, I'm the type where I like to actually, I know, I mean, I don't like, I mean, I'll take help if I really need it, but I mean, I'm, I don't want to be like that.
	I don't want to be, I don't want to be like that couple that was in the news like a couple of years ago where they it was like, remember that homeless couple?
	Or, I mean, they weren't homeless, but they kind of posed as homeless coupl, like a homeless with this homeless guy, and it was a couple.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	What they did was the homeless guy gave this woman $20.
	I think it was because she needed gas.
	She ran out of gas, so this homeless guy gave this woman his only $20, and so she and her husband started up a GoFundMe for this homeless guy, and it raised like $400,000, and she and her husband spent it all.
	Oh, man, oh, and then it was Fajron.
	Why didn't she get on the air?
	Oh, okay.
	She doesn't want to get on the air.
	All right.
	But it was Tom Fajr on.
	It was him.
	Yeah, they said it was.
	We're not using video right now, anyway, so there's no reason for her to get on.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Before, I mean, I'm looking at the timer.
	I think you've probably been talking.
	I don't want to monopolize the time.
	But one last thing.
	It's like, I know there's a possibility that Heather may be listening.
	Just if she is listening, I mean, I'm friends with her on Facebook.
	If she needs any sort of help with things, I have a really big heart.
	I am a psychiatric survivor myself.
	And if she needs help, I know the laws in California are similar to New York State, so I'm familiar with Laura's law and all that stuff.
	So if she needs help, she has help.
	Okay, Anthony.
	Anthony, stick around for questions, though.
	Yeah.
	Questions?
	All right.
	I'll stand online.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, we don't have any callers to ask them.
	Do you have questions for him, Roswell?
	I have questions.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	No, you do.
	You go ahead.
	Okay.
	You're following it closer than I am.
	Yeah, it's all right.
	Anthony, would you say it's fair to say that you live the lit city lifestyle?
	Yes, I want to hear this.
	I almost certainly did.
	You're talking about during the trip.
	During the trip, before the trip, and it's absolutely the next couple weeks are going to be.
	The next couple of weeks are definitely going to be lit city.
	I might.
	You should Google what a New York City mole person is.
	I might wind up like that.
	I hope I don't.
	Anthony, is it true that you've never?
	Anthony, is it true you've never had sex with your girlfriend or with any woman?
	Yeah, that is true.
	Explain this to me.
	I don't know.
	I just, I can't.
	All right, this is my reasoning, and this is my logic.
	Having sex, I mean, that kind of like translates.
	I mean, it doesn't have to, but if you think about it logically, it's basically, I mean, it's the act of procreation.
	So that's the act that involves creating life.
	So if you want to think about it this way, creating sex, I mean, creating life is like if you're having sex in your orgasm inside of a woman as a man, that's basically the reverse of putting a loaded gun up to somebody's head and pulling the trigger.
	You're actually creating life, not taking a life.
	And I don't think I could really do either.
	That's why I'm not joining the military.
	With this attitude, when you took that cross-country trip, you should have just stopped right there in Utah.
	You would have been a perfect Mormon.
	Oh, all right.
	Sex is only for procreation, I think they believe.
	Okay, go ahead, John.
	Oh, no.
	I was also going to say that we are very proud of you for making your journey and doing it the right way, the lit city way, staying out of trouble, and completing the mission.
	Mission accomplished.
	I mean, yeah, I was going to.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	No, that was it.
	Go ahead.
	No, I mean, I was basically, I was basically, I mean, I wanted to make a few stops along the way.
	Like, I wanted to, I really wanted to go to, I mean, I wasn't going to, I know the other guy, and I'm not going to say names, but the other person, the other individual in question, that there's this little kind of few.
	Yeah, okay, Miller.
	You know, there was this little thing going on between me and him.
	And I wanted, I know he, I know he did his thing, that's fine.
	And I was actually going to go, and I wasn't going to go anytime during when the family, the Bell family was there or Heather or anybody that might, even other fans, I was going to go later on.
	Like at Doc.
	You mentioned Heather as a member of the Bell family.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I mean, you know, Heather was probably there.
	And I just didn't want to impose on anybody, even Miller, whatever he was doing.
	And I was just going to, I was just going to have my own moment and leave.
	But I didn't want to risk getting arrested all the way over on the West Coast.
	So, I mean, and I don't even know how far it was going.
	And there's other things.
	I mean, I'm just going to go up to Oregon to Priest Trail and C. Priest Fontaine, who's an American distance runner because I'm a distance runner myself.
	I don't know.
	And then, and then, I mean, there's a lot of stops.
	And then I basically, you know, I flew Lisa out to San Diego.
	We stayed a couple more days.
	And then I put the car, not a couple more.
	I don't even remember how much hello was at this point, but I got the car back in a car carry and we took a plane back to New York.
	And I mean, yeah, I mean, I have nothing against Miller.
	I don't even know if he's listening to us or not.
	I have no kind of, he's fine.
	I actually like him.
	I was drawn to him.
	That's why I kind of reached out to him.
	But weren't you going to crash your car through his facade?
	Oh, you mean Park my BMW in his living room?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	I mean, maybe if I had to, but I mean, I want to know.
	But the only reason why, all right, I know everybody's thinking it.
	The only reason, I was heading out to San Diego a couple weeks before, and I, and everybody knows this.
	Everybody in these circles know this.
	I had posted, I think, on Wade Gam and Facebook that I was going to crash my car through the security perimeter of S Ford Area 51.
	I don't know if you're aware of this.
	That would have worked out well for you, and it would have worked wonders in terms of you maintaining your license.
	No, no, no.
	I know, I know, but I didn't, but some other person did, and they're not here anymore.
	And a few other things transpired, and I don't know if I should even talk about this, but you know, outfit agencies or whatever.
	But I actually think that actually happened.
	But I mean, that doesn't even matter anymore.
	I mean, I'm in a predicament now, and I hope it resolves itself.
	But I mean, I don't know.
	Yes, I am.
	I don't know.
	Does anybody have any more questions that they want to ask?
	Because I don't want to, I mean, if there's other callers, I don't want to pass the one.
	Wait, Roswells, go ahead.
	Who invented listening?
	Yeah.
	I did.
	Go ahead, Roswells.
	The question I have is: you drove all the way to San Diego.
	You completely missed Perump.
	I mean, you know, for the Art Bell fun, what do you got?
	Annual, you know, he died a year ago.
	What do you call that?
	Anniversary.
	Anniversary, thank you.
	But then you passed it.
	You didn't even stop by.
	And you went all the way to San Diego.
	And what's in San Diego, except for Jedi Miller?
	Well, I mean, if I mean, to be completely honest, and I have confirmation by three other people here in the New York City area that I don't know how to put this lightly because here's the thing.
	Just put it.
	We all know.
	We all remember.
	Okay, we all know what happened in 9-11.
	I was 19 when it happened.
	I don't know why I was experiencing what I did.
	And I know there was others out there because I know I've heard the stories and I've actually talked to a few of them that, you know, right leading up, the months leading up to it and the weeks, it's getting a bad feeling.
	I mean, it sounds weird, but I was just getting this bad feeling.
	And then, like, the day of, like that night before, I had like this really creepy, bizarre dream.
	I don't even remember what it was, but I remember it was scared the shit out of me.
	I woke up.
	I was 19.
	I was at Ramico College over in Jersey.
	And I was in my political science class and it happened.
	And we all ran out to TVs and stuff.
	And I saw the towers on fire, like we all did.
	And I knew they were going to fall.
	And something said that one's going to fall.
	And 10 seconds later, it fell.
	And I say, holy shit, that one's going to fall too.
	And then that one fell.
	And those same feelings that I was getting very bad, I was getting right leading up to San Diego.
	For some reason, I had this fixation that something terrible, like something along the lines of some sort of nuclear attack is going to happen in San Diego.
	And when I was talking to the FBI agents over at the sheriff's office in New City, they basically talked to the FBI.
	Don't just gloss over that.
	What was that all about?
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's what I'm getting at because I've been having these terrible, these terrible feelings about that.
	And then it just all kind of fell into place.
	And then when I was, I had, because I was in jail for like five days at RCJ.
	And I was yelling and I was yelling that somebody died because of me.
	Then Rockland detectives came, took me to the office over on New Hampshire Road, in New City.
	And then these two guys come in and they sit down.
	And the sheriff's detectives were actually being really nice and nervous about it.
	They were asking me, do I want donuts?
	Do I want coffee?
	I said, sure, fine.
	And then these two guys come in, they sit down, and then I'm like, I'm not going to say even their first names.
	They only give me first names.
	They're like, you know why we're here?
	I was like, I think I do.
	And it's like, it's because of what I said in jail.
	And they're like, yeah.
	And that's what you posted on that Facebook group that you're on Wade Gab.
	And I was like, yeah.
	And they say, listen.
	And then they identified one guy was from the FBI.
	The other guy wanted to tell me who he was from.
	And they were telling me, listen, we know people like you kind of go through these things.
	And then the one guy just cut the other guy off.
	It's like, there's a white van driving around.
	Can you give me a plate number?
	I was like, what?
	He's like, yeah, give us a plate number now.
	I was like, I don't know.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	And then we just kept on going on and on.
	Like, something, they knew I knew something.
	And I know that three other people that I'm associated with know something might happen.
	I'm not for sure, but it's just, I mean, if something does happen in like the next six months or something, don't be surprised.
	Because I'm getting those same feelings I did right before 9-11.
	And I was 19 then.
	And that was, what was that, like 16 years ago or something, 18 years ago?
	And if it happens, it's going to happen in San Diego.
	I don't.
	I mean, that's kind of like where the energies are being concentrated at this point.
	I mean, hopefully, I mean, it could dovetail out of because that's the other thing.
	It's like, I'm getting prepared to get the fuck out of here if I have to.
	You know something?
	If millions of people die in San Diego, that could be really good PR for this show.
	Oh, my God.
	I hope not.
	That could get us a boost.
	Yeah, I hope not.
	Well, I mean, we could use the advertising.
	I mean, the free advertising of the clip would be played everywhere.
	And I would be forever ruined for having said that.
	I just hope, you know, I hope we're wrong.
	But, I mean, I talked to three other people, and the three other people told me that the one guy that I'm very close with said nuclear attack somewhere within the United States.
	I think I may have pinpointed it.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But, I mean, I'm telling you, I know the feelings I got the way I felt right before 9-11.
	I'm feeling the same way now.
	And other people that I'm associated with are getting the same types of feelings.
	It's just well, the problem is that when you have a history of mental illness, if you say something like this, people are going to discount it and dismiss it.
	And I just want you to know that I believe you, and so do my co-hosts.
	Oh, thank you.
	But I mean, that's, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not getting it.
	I'm not saying this for approval from anybody.
	I'm just saying, and the whole thing with the mental illness thing is like, you know, I was in a room in Battery Park City with people that are quote unquote mentally ill.
	And they were all, I mean, we're supposed to be dangerous and paranoid and be doped up on medication.
	I haven't been on medicine in like two years.
	So, I mean, I should be unstable in the hospital right now.
	I was told I'd be in the hospital within three days, and it's been two years.
	So, that gives you kind of an inkling of the nonsense that we have to deal with on a daily basis.
	Well, I think if you can find some way to stay off of the psychotropic medications, I think that's only going to be a winner for you.
	If you can stay off of them without killing people and without hurting yourself, those are two qualifiers, Roswells.
	I will add to that statement.
	But I don't think psychotropic medications just to change someone's personality from something that isn't harmful physically or threatening physically to another type of personality that hopefully isn't physically threatening to oneself or anybody else.
	I don't really see a gain in that.
	But anyway, good luck, Anthony.
	One more question.
	He's gone.
	I just wanted to know how he, when he got to San Diego, or right before he got to San Diego, he bought a first-class ticket for his girlfriend to meet him there.
	And I just wanted to know how much that cost.
	I just can't get over his basic answer as to why he doesn't have sex, and that's because effectively it's only for procreation.
	And if he doesn't plan to have a baby, he's not going to do it.
	Well, I have a theory that the whole suck my 1010-20, suck my titties.
	I think the last part of it, the suck my titties part, might have been like his girlfriend actually begging him.
	You're getting me all worked up here, Roswells.
	You better stop it now.
	We got a show today.
	No, I'm just saying that maybe just he made a joke about it.
	And now it's 10-10.
	Suck 1010-20.
	Suck my titties.
	Even though it was like maybe his girlfriend, maybe.
	Well, I wish Anthony the best, and I hope that his future endeavors involve another cross-country trip that we can all pay attention to and cheer him on for.
	Douglas Dietrich, do either of you listen to his show?
	No, I've never heard one.
	Richard, are you alive?
	Oops, my bad.
	Good grief.
	What are you hosting a radio show or are you sleeping?
	Christ Almighty.
	Have you ever heard Douglas Dietrich, Richard?
	Yes.
	Yes, I have occasionally.
	Okay, what is that guy's deal with Belgab?
	I had never heard of Douglas Dietrich.
	I had no awareness of his existence until he started going on and on about Belgab being some sort of a den of child pornography traders.
	So what is the genesis of this?
	Why does he hate Belgab so?
	I believe he hates Belgab for one simple reason, and that's because of the poster Gunner.
	And he has a long-running feud with that poster beyond Belgab, beyond time and space, and through the cosmos.
	Basically, Douglas Dietrich is insane, and he rambles on and on and on.
	The man doesn't stop talking.
	Literally, like he will not stop talking.
	He will go on for probably, you know, like 15 minutes without taking a breath.
	I don't know how he does it, but he's just a conspiracy theorist, and it's almost too complicated to explain.
	He has all these theories about white supremacy, but none of his theories make sense.
	They all contradict each other.
	But as for why he hates Belgab, it's because of that one poster, Gunner.
	That's amazing how people make that sort of a connection.
	Like, they'll have one person on a website that they dislike, and because of that, the entire website must be burned to the ground, as unholy as it is.
	I don't understand that.
	I've tried to message Douglas Dietrich through numerous communication avenues just to get him on the Gabcast and do a show with him, but I can't get in contact with this guy.
	So I guess the primary reason I'm mentioning him here is because if there's anybody listening who knows how to get a hold of Douglas Dietrich, if you have any way of communicating with him, please let him know that I would love to have him on the Gabcast, and he'll be treated entirely fairly.
	I mean, it won't be an adversarial conversation at all because I have no reason to be adversarial toward him.
	I just want to hear what he has to say about things.
	Maybe Gunner can call in.
	Maybe that's what's stopping it from happening is his fear that Gunner might actually call in.
	Because I'm sure that if Gunner called into Douglas' show, he'd be hung up on forthwith.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I don't even think he takes callers.
	he rambles on so much and my God, it's a headache to, well, it's not a headache.
	It's It's actually entertaining just making fun of the stupid shit he says.
	And I think he claimed to be like some kind of Manchurian candidate, something of that nature, some kind of special forces operative, even though he's 5'6 ⁇ and probably weighs 106 pounds.
	And there's no way that guy is humping through the bush.
	I am Richard Gregor.
	I was in the actual military and was at war.
	The actual military.
	As opposed to the fake military.
	I guess from what you're saying, even if I were to manage to get him on this show, it would be a rather difficult experience as far as having a two-way conversation with this guy.
	I'm kind of thinking.
	I don't think it would happen.
	I don't think he would actually participate.
	And if he did come on, I think he would just talk on and on endlessly, and he would never get a word in edge-wise.
	He would just filibuster whatever you were saying and ramble on.
	Maybe that would be the show.
	Maybe that would sort of be the comedy of it, is that I would just let that go on forever and not speak until he explicitly asked me to speak and just see how long it took for that to occur.
	I mean, that in itself could be comedic.
	It would be key, too, if he's like the Madman Martian, except not as loud.
	I found Madman Martian to have a very pleasant voice and to be rather subdued.
	But, you know, opinions are opinions.
	That's mine.
	Let's see.
	Dave Schrader, is anybody, are either of you listening to his show at all?
	Is there any traction on this show?
	Because I've stated this previously, and I want to repeat it, that I don't exactly get the impression that there's a whole lot of buzz out there about this show.
	Like, if I go to the Facebook page for the show and you look at the number of comments, you look at the number of likes, the number of shares, it looks like tumbleweed to me.
	And I don't hear anyone really, I don't really hear anyone talking about the show.
	I don't get the, I don't know.
	I mean, do either of you pay any attention to it or have any idea of the level of success over the course of these, what?
	We're over a year now, aren't we?
	I believe so.
	His reach, allegedly, is pretty far.
	He has a long reach social media-wise.
	I think he has like 70-something thousand Twitter followers.
	And I even posted in his thread like a week or so ago.
	I did a comparison.
	And my account gets about the same amount of responses, you know, likes, retweets, what have you, that he does.
	So he's either paying for followers or people just don't give a shit.
	And it's probably that, the latter, because that guy, I don't buy into him.
	He's boring.
	I wouldn't care if he stepped in front of a bus and got hit.
	I would just come and walk off.
	Roswells, have you paid any attention to that?
	To the whole Midnight in the Desert thing with Dave Schrader.
	Yeah, I don't listen.
	I don't listen to him.
	I mean, I listened to like a couple hours of them, and I thought it was okay.
	Yeah, it was good.
	I don't actually have a heck of a lot of time to listen to podcasts these days.
	Why?
	What are you doing?
	What's so pressing in your life that you can't squeeze in a podcast or two?
	Well, I mean, I work.
	And also, I have a trade, I sell trouches to the Mexicans and giant human-sized catchers myths.
	So it really takes up a lot of my time.
	You're doing pretty well with that?
	Yeah, I am.
	Really?
	Wow.
	She is so available, gentlemen.
	I mean, she's successful.
	She's an entrepreneur.
	She's a go-getter.
	I mean, listen to that laugh.
	Wouldn't you love to wake up next to that every morning?
	What were you going to say, Groiper?
	I said, I thought you were a chef.
	Brig thought you were a man, Roswells.
	I don't know why.
	Well, I mean, I went to school.
	So, I mean, I guess if you go to school for it, you'd be considered a chef.
	But, I mean, I don't want to call myself a chef.
	Oh, my God, and she can cook, too!
	Good lord.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, so, yeah, that's what I do.
	But I do other stuff.
	I do other stuff because, you know, working is so last century.
	But one thing you don't do is listen to Dave Schrader.
	Well, I mean, yeah, no, I don't.
	Well, that's pretty rough.
	Because, you know, I'm not around when his show is on.
	You know, I just, I think that's my biggest reason for not listening is just the same as you.
	I can't fit any more stuff in.
	I just can't.
	I mean, even the stuff that I do listen to, I speed it up by 30%.
	So all the talk shows I listen to, I've gotten really accustomed to listening to human speech sped up by.
	30%?
	Yes, 30%, sometimes even 40.
	Like if I'm really having to compact time for the day, I'll just juice it right up.
	And you know what?
	You can get a lot done listening-wise.
	And you get used to it pretty quickly.
	But the point is, if I've gotten to the point where I have to speed things up by 40% in order to be able to listen to them, I can't fit any more content into my day.
	I just can't.
	Particularly a show that airs every day.
	Christ Almighty, how am I going to do this?
	I think that's my primary reason.
	The only thing I ever heard from him was the show he did about serial killers and the Golden State, what was it, Golden State Butcher or the Golden State Killer or whatever that freak show's moniker was.
	That was the only show I managed to hear, and I did like what I heard.
	I mean, I thought it was an enjoyable show, but I just don't get the impression that that whole thing is getting any traction.
	And you know something?
	Like, I personally would have felt really apprehensive about stepping into that situation.
	Like, with all of the drama that surrounded Heather's departure, all of the public salvos being launched in both directions and the mudslinging, and then to come in as a host and do a show in the midst of all of that, in the fallout of all of that, I would have felt really apprehensive about stepping into that.
	It just seems like any, I don't know, I just have trouble wrapping my brain around the notion of most professional hosts being willing to step into that sort of an environment and begin doing a show that they're going to use to feed their families.
	I think I know why he does it and why he chose to do it, and that's because he's not, he isn't bought in.
	So my honest appraisal of Dave Schrader is it seems from what I've heard, it seems like it's not a priority to him.
	When he's doing his show, the impression I get is that he's got his mind on multiple things at the same time, like other things, and the show is a second priority to him.
	He's responding to everyone on the threads, and it just seems as if it's not a priority to him.
	It's just a gig, I guess, and he could care less if he was there or not.
	And I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get, is that it's just not his top priority.
	He'd rather he's just got his mind on other things.
	Here's something interesting I saw.
	Because of other commitments, rather, because of other career commitments, including work on her autobiography, Linda Moulton Howe will no longer be presenting her monthly reports on Coast to Coast AM.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Linda wrote to George Norrie for the monthly airtime dating back to 2003 with George in 1991 with Art Bell.
	Those 28 years have been a privilege for me to broadcast my Earth Files Science, Environment, and Real Ex Files News.
	Cheers to more light and truth everywhere.
	Exclamation mark.
	And then there's a statement from the people at Coast to Coast AM themselves that they say, we thank Linda.
	I'm sorry, I'm a little drunk.
	We thank Linda for her outstanding contributions to Coast to Coast over the years and wish her the best in all future endeavors.
	Doesn't that just sound as milquetoast and disingenuous as anything you ever hear from a corporate enterprise?
	It's like, you know that she had to have accused someone there of sexual harassment or something.
	Something terrible had to have happened.
	It can't just be she wanted to work on her autobiography.
	Who's going to read a Linda Moulton Howe autobiography anyway?
	Was there a pressing desire out there for an autobiography from Linda Moulton Howe?
	I mean, even the Beatles are having a hard time selling autobiographies these days.
	You think Linda Moulton Howe is going to really rate?
	What kind of advance is she going to get on that book?
	Ms. Howe, as the CEO of Pendant Publishing, Which, by the way, Elaine Bennis, I think, works for.
	Or what was the name of the publisher that Elaine Bennis worked for in Seinfeld?
	Was it Pendant Publishing?
	I think that's what it was.
	Or is that a real publisher?
	I can't remember.
	Anyway, we're prepared to offer you the sum total of about 55 bucks and some change as your advance on this autobiography.
	So get cracking.
	All right.
	I was always struck by those interviews, listening, driving down the road in the middle of the night on a windy country road, listening to crackly AM radio with Linda Moulton Howe holding the phone up to her cassette tape recorder, just playing weirdos, talking about cows having their assholes extracted in perfect circular fashion.
	It's just, it was almost, I think it was just an artist.
	I mean, because that seems very artistic to me.
	Like, if you could perfectly extract a cow's asshole in a perfect circle shape, it almost looks like a, it almost looks like a, what's that filet?
	Filet mignon, you know, it's just a nice perfect circle, but in the center, oh no, instead of something edible, it's an asshole.
	I mean, that seems like if you can pull that off, that's a work of art.
	And so I've always believed that the people, in fact, doing this are not aliens, but rather some sort of artistry is going on there.
	That's my opinion, though.
	I could be wrong.
	We have a caller on the air.
	Hi, how are you?
	Hey, Michael.
	How are you doing?
	This is Frisco Bob.
	Hey, buddy.
	Oh, hey, how's it going?
	What are you up to?
	You know what?
	I got your email that you sent me a few weeks ago.
	I just keep forgetting to reply to it.
	I even start it in my Gmail inbox so that I would not forget, but I suck sometimes in this.
	I'm sorry.
	That's okay.
	I appreciate the heads up on the shows coming up.
	Is that working okay?
	I'm using MailChimp.
	I haven't been deplatformed yet, thankfully.
	Yeah, it's working good.
	I'm getting them all.
	I listened to last shows.
	It's good.
	I still stream an old show now and then once in a while.
	It's good.
	Good.
	What brings you to the show, buddy?
	Just wanted to call in for the first time ever to a real show and say hi, and good to hear everybody.
	I really wasn't a bellcaster.
	I wasn't into the blog.
	And I caught on a little too late just towards the end when the show, before the end of the show, stopped and listened to all the reruns.
	But, you know, I missed it.
	I missed the show, but you find other things and move on.
	You know, I sometimes feel bad for people that discovered this stuff after all of these electric moments in Bell Gab history occurred.
	You know, just all of these crazy, insane moments that just came about over the course of the passage of time here and there.
	And now all that dust has settled.
	And I kind of wonder what that must be like to be someone who's listening to all of that after the fact, after everything is well removed from all of those events, many of which prompted the hosting of emergency gab casts.
	I was telling someone the other day, my favorite emergency gabcast was the one where I forwarded Bell Gab to coast2coastam.com for 24 hours.
	I didn't tell anybody I did that.
	Not anybody.
	And I sat there in the chat room at UFOShip.com watching Art Bell and Heather Wade go back and forth.
	Oh my God, what do you think's happened here?
	I don't know.
	We're going to have to find out.
	Do you think Michael would have done this?
	Oh, I don't think he would have done that.
	Do you think he would have done this?
	I don't think he would have done that.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	And just watching that and then George Norrie and the people at Coast to Coast coming out and saying, we don't know what's happening here.
	And I even put like a little tag at the end of the URL that said something like, question mark equals DMCA takedown or something like that.
	So the URL just, everything was so perfect.
	That was one of my favorite moments in all of Bell Gab history.
	And that emergency gab cast, listening to those four tools, sitting there doing that show, freaking out over it.
	Oh, it was so delicious.
	And I had to come up with all kinds of excuses as to where I was.
	I had to tell everybody that I was out in my mom and dad's place in Siberia and that I didn't have any internet access out there.
	My phone doesn't work out there.
	My mom and dad are old and they can barely even walk.
	So they don't have internet access.
	I'm surprised they have electricity.
	I was encouraging them to get one of these hand pump well pumps in case they decide they want to shut the electricity off because you're going to have to find some way to get that water out of the ground.
	But it was just such a beautiful moment in time.
	And yeah, I kind of wonder, like, that would be a great example.
	Like, if someone were to stumble upon that particular broadcast.
	I don't even know when it aired.
	I'd almost like to go back and listen to that just so I could hear that.
	Because there would be various parts in that show where I would know what I was doing at this point.
	Oh, I was washing my hands when he said that.
	Or, oh, I started drinking a Coke when he was freaking out about this.
	It's just like all these little things would come back to me.
	And so I kind of wonder sometimes what it must be like so removed from all of those events to just kind of stumble upon all of that and start listening to those old shows.
	I listen to a lot of old stuff.
	I listen to old radio, the old radio shows from the 40s and the 50s and the old-time radio stuff at night while I'm sleeping.
	No commercials, like kind of a steady volume level.
	Like some people listen to it with a fan blowing, just kind of like white noise.
	It's something I picked up since I was a kid.
	I told you this before.
	And there were times where some of your old shows would just randomly come on there and I would wake up laughing, literally laughing.
	That's the best way to wake up is just some of your stuff when you go off on one of your rants and I would wake up my wife, what's wrong?
	And I go, nothing.
	It's on the radio.
	And then I had to write you an email about it or something.
	I am entertaining.
	2014 or something.
	I'm Michael Van Diven.
	Anyway, I love your whole HBO thing that you use.
	That hits a chord with me.
	And I like your karaoke intros to the show.
	They're very entertaining, too.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Anyway, pleasure to talk to you and the rest of the show.
	And I miss you.
	And I'm glad you and everyone else are still just getting out there.
	It's just very interesting.
	I'm sitting here tinkering around with a skateboard project and some computers and watching baseball.
	I'm my dog.
	Doing a bunch of things.
	Well, I will say you got it, buddy.
	I'm really glad you're out there.
	And I guess now I don't have to respond to your emails.
	So now I'm glad you called.
	I wasn't glad you called until I realized I wasn't actually going to have to respond to that email now.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Thanks for calling, though.
	That's really cool that you're out there.
	And you know something I'm curious about?
	Is Richard C. Hoagland still alive?
	Is he doing a radio show anymore?
	Is that still a thing?
	Does anybody know?
	Yeah, I knew that.
	I really don't know.
	I mean, I think your Hoagland thread is still alive.
	So I think it does do a show.
	There's just not very many people posting on the Hoagland thread at the time.
	Well, I think the fact that neither of you know really, for sure, is indicative in itself of something.
	And so who knows?
	You know, another thing that one of the things that I really regret the most about the Belgab shutdown last summer is that since that occurred, Michael Horne of Billy Meyer fame, he's the American spokesman for UFO contactee Billy Meyer.
	That would be the Swiss UFO contactee, alleged, purported UFO contactee Billy Meyer, who really is, I think, just running a sex cult in the mountains of Switzerland, if you want the truth about it.
	I think that's all that comes down to.
	But I really regret the fact that Michael Horne is not still on Belgab.
	And I even shouted out on Twitter to him.
	I was like, hey, buddy, Belgab's back up.
	We sure do miss you.
	Everyone's really hoping you'll just kind of come back and start doing your thing again.
	When in reality, it was only me who was saying that.
	He could take a joke.
	I liked him.
	He could take a joke.
	I mean, I don't like him because he seems to be screwing a lot of people out of their money.
	But, you know, I called him a penis American because his head is kind of penis-shaped.
	It is rather phallic, isn't it?
	Yes.
	But he seemed to take it as a joke.
	He really did roll with the punch as well.
	I think that's probably that probably hits just the epicenter of what it is that I like about him, is that he'll just take as much shit as people want to throw at him.
	And I would think that being the American spokesman for somebody like Billy Meyer all these years, you would have to have developed a thick skin because what you're suggesting to people and the story you're telling is so preposterous that you just would have to have developed some sort of a coping mechanism that just causes everything to roll right off your back.
	Groiper, what were you going to say?
	Oh, I was going to say, yes, he has to have a thick foreskin for a head.
	Oh!
	Boy, that connection you made there really got me.
	I got to tell you that.
	Hi, we have a caller on the air.
	How you doing?
	Hello, all.
	This is Dustin in Omaha.
	Hey, Dustin in Omaha.
	How you doing, buddy?
	I'll tell you, it's great.
	I can't tell you how nice it is for the show tonight because kind of a tough day.
	I know first world problems.
	All the things I was curious about, y'all have touched on, and I really have enjoyed it.
	I've appreciated it.
	And talking about those emergency gab casts, that really put a smile on my face.
	It's a smile on mine.
	It's a ride.
	It wasn't it really.
	I mean, even if something for whatever reason, if Belgab were over tomorrow, we would all be walking around with a lot of memories, would we not?
	Indeed.
	Well, you know, and it goes a little bit more than that because the gentleman that was on earlier made the point that I mentioned to you offhand years ago, because you had Falke as a co-host on the Gabcast.
	Of course, Falkey blesses heart.
	He's got issues.
	He does not.
	And as hard, you know, all the grief he gets on the forum still, it's a hostile yet supportive group.
	I understand what you're saying there.
	It sounds ridiculous on the surface to say that, but it really is true.
	Yeah.
	It's like a group of friends, Even though we've never met and most of us have never met in person and never will, still, there's a camaraderie.
	And I don't recognize all the names.
	Your two co-hosts, I recognize Roswell's.
	I remember hearing her, seeing her post, but the other gentleman, I'm sorry, I don't.
	Hi.
	And that stuff you were saying earlier really got my attention.
	She can cook.
	She's an entrepreneur.
	I mean, there was one little bit she blurted out a couple times that I'm so glad this is recorded.
	Uh-oh, this is not going to be good.
	What did she blurt out?
	I may not have caught it.
	What was it?
	Suck my titties.
	Oh, I know.
	I mean, I enjoyed the repetition of that as well.
	She may not have realized that that was being enjoyed, but you are among men.
	We're all just a bunch of giant four-year-olds.
	Really, that is the truth.
	So what happened in your day?
	I mean, you don't have to give any personal information away, but I mean, we would be happy to counsel you in whatever way may be possible.
	Maybe the group games required.
	Well, I just want to help.
	Yeah, I used three-inch decking screws around the house for some projects here and there.
	They work great for various things in the garage.
	And I run one of them through a tire.
	And so when I bought my vehicle several years ago, I don't drive very much, just back and forth to work.
	So truck's seven years old.
	They told me I'd only wore 30% of the tread.
	Well, I had to replace a tire.
	And yeah, you can replace one tire, but it's not a, you really should replace at least two.
	So because of my messiness and stupidity, I have to admit, because I didn't keep the garage clean enough, I got to spend close to 500 bucks today that I didn't need to spend.
	And I'm in the stage of self-loathing still.
	So you've given me a respite from that stage of self-loathing.
	These are such white people problems you're presenting to us here.
	You should be ashamed.
	Ashamed.
	I know.
	There are people in this world who need vaccinations.
	I know it.
	I know it.
	Definitely first world problems.
	But it's quite a treat.
	Well, you're going to be okay.
	It's $500 well spent.
	You're probably safer in your vehicle as a result of it.
	If you have family in the car with you, you can rest assured that they're safer.
	And I think it's, and there's no replacement for a nice new set of tires on your car, even if it's only two.
	I'm saving up for some really good ones.
	All right.
	Well, you know what?
	Whenever you get your additional two tires as you round out the completion of your white people problems, just go ahead and post a thread on Bellgab and let us all know that it's been done because I think everybody is sitting around really with bated breath looking to see if you've resolved this issue.
	So well, very good.
	Before I go, Roswells, would you indulge us one more time in that classic line?
	Hey, speak for yourself, buddy.
	I'm not a perv like you.
	She can indulge you.
	What is it?
	10, 10, 20.
	Suck my titties.
	It moved.
	It did move.
	There was movement.
	I'm going to just say that.
	It's the Gabcast you're listening to.
	If you want to call into the show, the phone number to call.
	I can't believe I've been, nevermind.
	You have been so objectified.
	This is a total Me Too moment.
	And I think that you have grounds to ruin anybody who participated in this radio show tonight.
	I am the whole of the show.
	No, you contributed by saying the titty thing far more than any hole on any radio show has ever contributed.
	Let's see.
	Okay, well, let's see.
	I've got a few things here.
	These are just things I was going to randomly throw in in case we didn't have enough to talk about.
	We're getting our first gay pride festival on Cape Girardeau.
	You see what a milquetoast, Middle America Mayberry place I live here that it's 2019 and my little town here, Cape Girardeau, Missouri, is just getting its first gay pride festival.
	I'll tell you this, though.
	I'm going to go down there and see if I can buy one of those dildo helmets.
	I want to know if, because you can't find those anywhere other than at gay pride parades.
	And I have to assume there's a vendor on the side of the street that sells the dildo helmet that I otherwise can't find anywhere.
	So that's going to be interesting to see.
	I hope it's purple.
	That's my biggest concern.
	That's my only concern, really.
	It better be purple.
	Scientists discover nearly 200,000 kinds of ocean viruses.
	According to this story, if you're in the ocean swimming and you swallow some seawater, in that gulp, that single gulp, you are consuming more microbes, more viruses, than there are human beings in the United States of America.
	So enjoy that beach trip.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I was just going to say about your gay pride parade in where you live.
	You know, I lived in Key West for a while, and, you know, it's a huge gay population there.
	And I was hanging out with some guy who's gay, and there was like a gay pride going along.
	Like, hey, why are you in the parade?
	He's like, I'm gay.
	I don't need to be in a parade for it.
	I think that's the attitude of most gay people.
	Yeah, I think so, too.
	I think most gay people are what you would call pretty normal.
	And when they see these parades with people walking around with the purple dildo helmet that I'm hoping to make a purchase of, or, you know, the leather and the San Francisco YMCA mustache and the leather hat looking like Vito Spotify from the Sopranos.
	I think most gay people are kind of embarrassed and ashamed by that and feel like it's setting them back.
	At least that's my impression.
	I mean, any group of people you find like that, even like transgendered people, I don't think most transgendered people are sitting around celebrating when they hear about a 10-year-old kid that's having hormone replacement therapy shoved down his throat by his parents who are trying to say something to the rest of society about themselves.
	I think in most cases, when parents are doing that and they're presenting it as, look at me, I'm so open-minded.
	I'm so accommodating.
	I'm so willing to accept what my child is and help my child develop.
	I frankly think most of those parents ought to have their kids taken away by child protective services because I don't think those parents are really trying to be any of those things.
	I think they're just trying to make a statement about themselves so that all of their other caviar sucking friends and their cocktail parties that they go to at night can look at them and say, oh my goodness, you have a transgender gender child too?
	I have four of them.
	That's the most amazing thing.
	Harry, come over here.
	She's got a transgender child too.
	Only we have four of them, but she also has one.
	I don't think it's got anything to do with the welfare of the kid in most cases.
	You can't know.
	I mean, think about yourself in your personal life.
	Think of what you were and who you were and what your just overall makeup was at the age of 18.
	18.
	And you're legally considered, for most intents and purposes, by that point, an adult.
	And then fast forward only seven years to the age of 25 and remember how different you were between those two ages.
	Your perception of the world, your attitude on things, your approach to life.
	So is there anyone out there who can legitimately make a case that you ought to be pumping a 10-year-old full of hormones and chopping up their genitals?
	I don't think so.
	At least that's my take on it.
	And I think most transgendered people, this gets back to the point I was making about gays and their thoughts on gay pride parades.
	I don't even think most transgendered people are sitting around golf clapping when they hear about a 10-year-old who's had 10 pounds per week of hormone replacement therapy injected into their bodies and surgeries.
	I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I think it's like an extremely tiny, teeny, tiny minority of people, even within the transgendered community, who would celebrate that or view that positively.
	That's just my impression.
	I don't know.
	It's the Gabcast, and we'll probably go ahead and wrap it up.
	Oh, here's another one.
	Tesla CEO Elon Musk is going to get a stricter Twitter babysitter.
	So the Securities and Exchange Commission has imposed on Tesla this babysitter who is going to be the gateway.
	It's an attorney, effectively.
	It's a financial attorney who's going to be the gateway for everything Elon Musk wants to post online or say on Twitter.
	And this seems like such bullshit to me because I thought that the Securities and Exchange Commission existed for the purpose of protecting consumers.
	Does it not exist for the purpose of ensuring that people are not getting screwed when they're investing in stocks?
	Does it not exist for the purpose of making sure that we have adequate information about the stocks that we're investing in and that there are not privileged people who have insider information about stocks so that they know how to invest or to de-invest accordingly when the rest of us are left standing in the cold?
	Isn't that why the SEC exists?
	So I would think, taking that into account, the SEC would want Elon Musk out there saying things about his company, saying things about his business that regular common people can see and assess and make decisions based on.
	But here we have this agency of the government, the SEC, the Securities and Exchange Commission, that has decided it is acting in the best interests of consumers, of investors, by limiting the amount of information they have access to from Elon Musk.
	That was just another story that I was going to randomly shove into the show.
	I mean, if either of you have anything to say about that, you can feel free to go ahead and do so.
	But if you don't, that's fine too.
	And I'll take that as a you don't.
	Anyway, it's the Gabcast.
	I'm Liberace.
	And also here tonight was Roswell's Hart and Richard Grouper.
	And I sure had a lot of fun on this show tonight.
	And I really want to just roundly thank both of you for doing the show.
	I sure do appreciate it.
	You're welcome.
	It was fun.
	All right, you guys.
	Take care.
	It's been fun.
	See you around the forum.
	Have a good night, everybody.
	It's the Gabcast.
	Catch you later.
	I'm Liberace.
	See you.
	You've been listening to The Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.

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