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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 573-837-4948.
	That's 573-837-4948.
	Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	That's right.
	You are listening to the Gabcast.
	If I've pressed all these buttons correctly, then this is the podcast about the forum bellgab.com.
	Again, you can listen to us, chat, or call by going to ufoship.com slash chat.
	On Skype, you can find us at ufoship.com or by phone, 573-837-4948.
	I just have an opening statement to start our show, and that is, if you can hear me still, that this is going to be huge.
	We're going to build a wall of sound so great.
	I mean, you've really never seen sound like this before.
	It's going to be amazing.
	And we're going to make the chat room pay for it, right?
	At this point, what difference does it make?
	There you go.
	With me tonight, I'm Red or the Mud King or Curtis, whatever you want to call me.
	I go by all kinds of names, some of them polite, some not.
	I've also got Star Mountain, Shine, and Ingloria Spitch.
	How is everyone doing?
	Wonderful.
	Thank you.
	Awesome.
	So this is the first, as far as I know, Gabcast that is hosted by all ladies.
	There's so much estrogen in the room.
	That's the right thing, right?
	Estrogen?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay.
	All right, so I think that we...
	Well, what about you?
	What?
	What about you, United Woman?
	Oh, I think I have enough.
	I think that my T level is low enough that I'll be able to go ahead and say it.
	I'm going to take a testrogen.
	What?
	Testrogen.
	Testrogen.
	Well, no, no, I think the chat would agree that my testosterone level is low enough to call this an all-women's podcast.
	So we're making history, regardless.
	I don't care.
	So how are you guys?
	I always want to say guys, and I don't have to do that this time.
	I can say how.
	Guys is great.
	Guys, you don't want to be ladies?
	What's the proper goddesses?
	Goddesses.
	Okay.
	This is the goddess cast co-hosted with the Mud King.
	So what's going on in your worlds?
	Not everyone at first.
	All right, Sean.
	It's the usual, just Monday through Friday working and Friday night just being exhausted and crashing.
	Yeah, so an open lines gab cast is just the best way to relax and unwind.
	It's like a bottle of wine, right?
	Yeah.
	Or at least it's the cheapest vintage wine that you can have.
	Which reminds me, do you guys like wine?
	Is everyone a wine drinker?
	Yes.
	When I drink.
	Yeah.
	I recently started drinking wine and I like something called Berlinger or Berlinger.
	It's a moscato.
	It's like a white sweet wine.
	Okay.
	It doesn't, it has a low alcohol content, but it's, you know, it's nice.
	It takes a little bit of the edge off.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's become a real thing, hasn't it?
	I see on social media all the time where there's wine parties, wine tastings.
	That's like the number one thing.
	Well, it's, I mean, if you're, I hate to use the word word foodie, but, you know, there's a culinary art to it.
	They have wine pairings, beer, craft beer.
	You know, there's a lot of people that are really into different craft beers.
	My husband, you know, he likes to try different.
	He's a big Pinot Noir.
	He likes his Pinot Noise.
	And we really maybe have a glass of wine if we're going out to dinner or just a little bit at the end of a busy day.
	But I'm really impressed with, you know, the language of it.
	Being an artist, I can appreciate the art of wine.
	Well, then you're the right person to ask which wine goes better with Belgab.
	Or is that just vodka?
	Is that just a mainline under road?
	Yeah, I don't know one that will, but I would just say, you know, the 7-Eleven serve wine?
	I don't know.
	Is it a box of wine?
	Is that the Belgab?
	The Belgab, just generic box of wine from Costco.
	I would go with Willie's box then, afterwards.
	I mean, it's stronger, isn't it?
	With what, Willie?
	I heard you say.
	Yes.
	Willie has a box of wine?
	No.
	Is the beer, the beer before he uses it as an outhouse?
	Oh, okay.
	You don't want it after he's used it.
	It's one of those things where it's clearly about the order you do things in is important, unless you're a golden shower type person.
	Mad Dog 2020 in the chat room one says, and that's that's a man out of my heart right there.
	I think Mad Dog 2020 is totally the drink of Belgab.
	Yes.
	Yes, with a chaser of, oh, what kind one that it's a liquor tastes like it smells like trannic luid, German.
	No, green, dirt green bottle.
	Well, you've already sold me.
	I have to remember the name.
	Absinthe?
	No, it's German.
	It's dirt green bottle.
	It's a beer.
	And it smells like trannicluid.
	I don't know.
	I'm not enough of a drinker.
	I know my lanes when it comes to alcohols and I stay within them, which would be, maybe that's a bad metaphor to use with alcohol, but it's too late.
	I've already done it.
	But I'm a vodka, a beer, and stay away from whiskey because I become a different person.
	Oh, really?
	Well, I quit drinking about five years ago, except for once at Christmas, lots of wine with my cousin, and that's about it.
	But I'm not opposed to drinking.
	I just don't.
	And I don't like drinking by myself.
	So there you go.
	Well, that brings up the question of drinking by yourself.
	Do you have to start worrying about your dedication to drinking if you're doing it by yourself?
	Or is it okay with certain drinks, certain types, certain categories of alcohol?
	I think with wine, it's okay.
	And I think it's almost socially acceptable to drink on your own because a lot of people have a glass or two of wine.
	Yeah, it's been proven to show the benefits, too, of that.
	Yes.
	Yes, Veritro.
	So George Nori says that's why he drinks every day.
	Well, I think Nori probably should slam shots of Jaeger or something before a show.
	That would make it a little bit more interesting.
	That's it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I have to thank guest in the chat room because that's the person who said it first.
	So go ahead and give them.
	And then Job or Job, whoever that is in the chat.
	I am notorious for botching screen names.
	But I'm not going to try to say what they posted.
	I mean, it's clearly a German name, but I would ruin it.
	Well, you know, speaking of alcohol and bellgab, it was down for a while.
	That's probably a good time to bring out the alcohol and fire up Twitter and start waiting for messages from the fearless leader, isn't it?
	I wouldn't know.
	I don't follow FL or F-O-K or whatever.
	I dropped out of that a long time ago.
	In fact, I even haven't been in the Nori thread for years.
	But what did you do?
	What did you do when Bellgab was down, though?
	Well, I emailed as many people as I could.
	And then I went to YouTube and I was content on YouTube.
	I checked messages and social media.
	And that's about it.
	I mean, I didn't have a nervous breakdown.
	I figured something was going on.
	Well, there's one of them.
	I'm sorry, she goes.
	I found out because I received a private message on Facebook.
	And I will not.
	And this person asked, has MV blocked me from Bell Gab?
	Did I say something wrong?
	And of course, I'm in the middle of, you know, I was not even aware what's going on.
	I said, oh, let me check.
	I said, no, it looks like it's down.
	It's not you.
	You should always tell people they've been banned.
	That's just the best way to go.
	It was just kind of humorous.
	You know, it was humorous.
	So then what was amusing is I went on Twitter to find, you know, looking for something else unrelated.
	And I noticed the people that I follow on Bellgab, on Twitter that are Bell Gabbers, what's going on?
	What happened?
	Did we get hacked?
	And then it became humorous.
	I was entertained by the tweets of response to it.
	That was kind of amusing.
	I thought that we were switching servers.
	So I didn't panic, but it does suck when it's down because during the day, sometimes when my brain is going to melt because I've done like two hours of intense work or something and I just need something like a chase or something to clear the palette, I go to Bell Gab.
	I'm like, okay, somebody will have posted something funny.
	I know somebody will have posted.
	And it's sort of like the mental candy when you go there and then you could get back to work.
	Yeah, it's a palate cleanser of the real world.
	I hear there's shots or pills you can take that actually work very similar to what bell gab can do for you.
	You're serious at work.
	Well, true.
	Okay, yeah, good point.
	It's not safe for work.
	But sometimes bell gab isn't either.
	And you can get busted if you drive while bell gabbing.
	Yeah, that would be a dangerous crime is driving while bell gabbing or operating heavy material or machinery while bell gabbing.
	I think it depends on what kind of job, I mean, if you're working, what kind of job you have, because I found that if I go in there and I see a post and then I try to follow it, I have to read at least one page to figure out what's going on.
	You know, I mean, you kind of come, you know, it's hard to just come in and grab, you know, read one post and not get the full effect of what everyone is talking about.
	And I did that accidentally on the Falkey thread, and then I just had gone in too deep and I stepped away.
	The funny thing about the Falkey thread is it's like a soap opera.
	I mean, if you don't keep up, somebody's dead today and tomorrow they're the CEO of a major corporation.
	So, and they're married for the third time.
	Right.
	Except that's a lot that I just said things that are incorporated around work, which would not fit into the falky thread, or at least about the topic of the falky thread.
	But oh, I'm hearing that tune-in's acting crazy.
	I don't like that, that there's popping sounds, huh?
	I heard that.
	Yeah, well, you know, I guess you guys are paying for the live experience, so that's you get the popping.
	Hopefully, that won't be in the recording.
	I'm not hearing that.
	Yeah, we're not.
	There must be something with either me sending the stream out to TuneIn or from TuneIn to the people listening, but we'll roll with it.
	We'll see what happens.
	Could be the bubblegum I'm chewing.
	That's probably it.
	If you don't mind, star, we're just going to our standard message for this episode is going to be to blame you.
	I've got enough for everyone.
	Yeah, not in a way of dislike or disdain by any means.
	It's more of a loving, when I'm nervous, I'm just going to blame you.
	So it's your fault.
	My fault.
	I thought it was Tan Andrea's fault.
	Whose fault?
	Tan Andrea's.
	What is that?
	I missed that joke.
	I feel like it was a good joke there that I'm not.
	You have to live in California.
	Tell me.
	San Andreas' fault?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	I didn't get that.
	I thought you were saying someone's name.
	They found that it has, this is just a very recent finding.
	It's extended under the Salt and Sea.
	They're also getting volcanic activity around the Salt and Sea.
	I saw that.
	I read about that.
	You guys, while we had the hurricane on the East Coast, you guys, there was the information coming out about the warning of the earthquake.
	Right.
	Right, right, right.
	Well, I live in Colorado now, but my son and his family live out in the desert area of California.
	So they're on the east side of the fault.
	So they won't be falling in the ocean.
	Is this like Edgar Casey level earthquake potential?
	We're calling it the big, the possible big one, because that thing is something overdue, 100 years.
	Right.
	And all overdue.
	Well, you know, I live in the Midwest, and back when I was in probably junior high, which would have been the, I guess, in the 90s, early 90s, and they were talking about how the big one, same kind of thing.
	I mean, nowhere near the level of the San Andreas Fault and all the different fault lines related around California.
	But they kept saying we were going to have this massive earthquake that was going to redefine the landscape of the Midwest.
	And it never happened.
	Like I remember feeling a minor tremor, and after that, it was nothing.
	And then here we go.
	It's been 20 years since then, and still nothing.
	So I think similar to the hurricanes I've come through, and I want to get back.
	I know, Sean, you live in the area where the hurricanes just came through, but they keep saying that these are like catastrophic level things that are about to happen.
	And when it doesn't follow through, do people start to diminish the message over time?
	What do you guys think?
	Okay, the yeah, it can, it starts getting stale and going away until there's an incident that happens.
	In the Midwest, though, you do have a new Madrid or Madrid fault, and you also now have frackquakes.
	And they call Oklahoma the new earthquake, new earthquake capital, because it's got more activity than California does now.
	Is Oklahoma?
	Sorry, not to cut you off, but has Oklahoma got to be the worst place to live?
	I mean, you have tornadoes and now you said fracking earthquakes.
	Yeah.
	Well, frack that.
	I don't want anything to do with those.
	Unless you're a storm chaser, then it's got to be the best place to live.
	And I love watching the storm chase live streams.
	You have a way to make it.
	Can I tell you like the worst thing that's ever happened to me?
	Because I really think you're going to give me a positive spin on it.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I like it.
	It's good to have you there.
	For every dark time in the Mud King's life, there's Star Mountain to show a silver lining.
	Which goes well with your name, I guess, Star Mountain.
	How did you come up with your screen name?
	And then we'll come back to Hurricanes.
	I used to live on Mount Maldi in California when I first started doing computers and getting a screen name.
	And a former married name of mine was Star, and I lived on a mountain.
	Were you married to Ken Star?
	Nope.
	Nope, I'm kidding.
	Nope.
	Nope, nope, nope.
	That's all good.
	Okay, so that's cool.
	So that's how I got my screen name.
	And that's how a Star Mountain was born.
	More stories of Belgab after this message about hurricanes.
	So, Shine, tell us what it was like to live through the most dangerous hurricane to come through in a decade.
	Well, we were fortunate because we are on the Gulf Coast side of Florida, you know, southern Florida.
	That's my favorite.
	And so the last one, Hermine, was, you know, just a tropical storm.
	And I've only been here maybe, I'm still a newbie to the whole hurricane thing.
	But we've had a couple tropical storms and they're just as dangerous.
	I mean, they're dangerous.
	I mean, especially if you live near the beaches with flooding and down trees.
	So tropical storm Hermione gave us, you know, a bit of a scare.
	We're not close enough to the water.
	I mean, just five minutes away, but where we had to be concerned about evacuating or anything, you know, and it wasn't that dangerous.
	But with Matthew, it was only until I caught a couple images on the news post, you know, the CNN weather of the size of it.
	I mean, it wasn't just, you know, the images with the little red dot, you know, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
	But when you look at the satellite images, the span of it was like, I mean, I looked at Florida and then I looked at the span of Matthew just after it had come through.
	I think it was just passing Cuba.
	And it's like, this whole thing is just going to, I mean, it was bigger, you know, from the outer rims.
	But everyone, you know, so you didn't just have the East Coast, but central Florida, Orlando and so forth, you know, they were having some of my friends in the central Florida had to evacuate because they were under severe threat.
	We were just under, you know, Tropical Storm Watch.
	But it was just the difficult part with these storms is you see all these different spaghetti noodle projections and you never know.
	I mean, look at Katrina.
	I mean, Katrina was way over on the East Coast and then did a sharp turn, you know, to the Gulf.
	And they have projections, but they're always shifting and changing.
	And you're like, okay, we're still relatively safe because it's not near Miami yet and it could veer west.
	So we were just, you know, keeping an eye on it.
	And so really by the time it, by the time it was near Miami, we already were getting, you know, gusts of wind, rain, the skies went dark.
	And it had.
	Did it look apocalyptic?
	No, it wasn't because I'm not that close to it.
	But it was just suddenly, I just noticed it went dark and there were gusts of wind.
	So it was just when it was south, you know, near Miami.
	And then once it started gearing up the East Coast, and then they had the evacuation.
	So we're like, okay, well, we're fine.
	But we couldn't really go anywhere because if you did drive on the main highways east of us to get to work or whatever, the traffic was insane because everybody was evacuating.
	So it was just like, we just felt like we were on hold, you know, as far as travel or anything like that, any trips to work and so forth.
	Or, you know, it just was like, all right, just holding it out.
	But it just looked like a monster.
	It was devastating.
	And that was even before, you know, just inching up along the coast.
	And, you know, as you saw, many of you, St. Augustine, you know, you know, all the way on up to South Carolina.
	It was incredible.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm in awe.
	I mean, I guess there's a part of me that's fascinated by nature because it kind of humbles you.
	Like you're really insignificant.
	And the funny thing was, is my husband said, well, you know, at least it gives everybody that's tired of hearing about the election a new, something new to focus on.
	I'm like, well, yeah, you know, but I'm in awe of nature and that fascinates me.
	But at the same time, you're like, this is, this is horrific, especially what happened.
	You know, Haiti and I don't know the exact number of deaths, the deaths.
	Yeah, I actually have more of an acquaintance to me, but a friend of my wife's that was in Haiti.
	She flew there for a relief mission.
	She's a pharmacist.
	And she got there two days before the storm hit and got stuck there longer because they ended up helping with people in the aftermath.
	But she rode out that hurricane in Haiti.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it's kind of scary.
	You know, when it comes to like evacuations and my worry level of any kind of storm, I kind of follow a policy of the Will Smith meter.
	When you see people leaving an area, if Will Smith is coming towards you, you know it's going to be bad.
	Yeah, that's when you know to pack up the kitchen sink, take the tomatoes, bring them inside.
	It's time to go.
	Will Smith's here to take care of some business.
	And another thing about the coverage of it, because I was getting kind of anxious, you know, and I said, you know, I have to just stop, like, step away from, you know, looking at all these maps and following, you know, everybody tracking it.
	You know, the news, just the, you know, they want to sell the story.
	They want, I mean, it was, of course, it's catastrophic, but then you wonder how much the media, because some of these projections were like, and it's going to go on up to North Carolina and then it's going to loop around and come back and hit Florida again.
	And I'm like, okay, this is getting ridiculous.
	Like, I don't know if I should even be paying attention to that.
	It was just the, you know, that added drama that the media, especially with social media, with anything news related, just heightened that nervousness of it.
	Yeah.
	And Glorious, you're on the East Coast, right?
	You're the Northeast.
	I am.
	So what was the reaction to the buildup of the storm where you were at?
	There was very little, actually.
	Really?
	Because there was a chance, right, that it could, one of the paths could have gone your direction, but it would have been weakened pretty significantly by that point.
	Right, right.
	And we're used to like, it seems like in the past few years, we've gotten worse and worse storms.
	So now when it rains, it seems like it's a monsoon.
	Like I remember growing up, rain was just that.
	It was rain or sometimes it would drizzle.
	But now a lot of times it comes down really, really hard.
	And like within a few minutes, it's like a almost like a flash type of rainstorm where it comes down really, really hard for 15, 20 minutes, and then it stops, but everything is flooded.
	And then it messes with the traffic.
	Or if you're going to take the subways now, like there's water on the tracks.
	So, yeah, but it wasn't really hyped up here as much.
	You know, when I think of flooding and New York, I can't help but think of the movie, the art art story, the coming global superstorm was based off of.
	I'm trying to think of the name of it right now.
	Do you guys know it?
	The day after the day after tomorrow.
	I think how realistic is the, I mean, obviously, I know that this is like a worst case scenario, but that the flooding, like the city library, like it goes up to where like the first floor has like, I don't know, two feet of water in it.
	And then, of course, that freezes over.
	Does it really flood?
	Is it that poorly, I guess I don't know what the right word is, irrigated or that water just stays there?
	Or is that overblown?
	I think it's well, I never saw the movie, so I'm trying to get a mental image of what you're saying.
	But in terms of the New York Public Library, if you're talking about the one on like off of 42nd Street, you have to go upstairs to get into the library.
	So it's elevated.
	Yeah, in the movie, they ran to the steps of it, and then they went inside it, and then it ultimately flooded too and then froze.
	Well, if that were the case, I think the first, like everybody's first floor and maybe the second floor of all the buildings would have to be flooded, and that's a hell of a lot of water.
	And my experience also is that in the suburbs, when we get snowstorms, when you go in, because I have worked in Manhattan, like right now I'm in the Bronx and I have some cases in Manhattan and some cases in the Bronx.
	But in the past, our office was in Manhattan.
	So I had to take the train in.
	And I would get into the city and I was like, what did they do with the snow?
	You trudged to your car and then you drove to the train station to take the train in.
	And then once you got into Manhattan, they did, well, they did such a great job of clearing, but also I think because of the subway system, the underground system, the streets are warmer so that things melt quickly.
	Because I noticed in the suburbs, it gets like on Long Island and Westchester, when it snows, we get hit really bad in the suburbs.
	Whereas in the Bronx and like Manhattan, there's very little.
	Like somebody had posted a video last winter of some guy like skiing in Manhattan, and then they had New York, New York under it.
	I can't remember who it was, somebody at Bellgap.
	But that is rare to see that much snow in Manhattan because, like I said, maybe because of the subways, the heat underground, once the snowflakes hit, yeah, because we know like in the city, either that or like there's some sort of like overnight crew that cleans everything up because there is snow, but it's not as bad as anything like in the outside suburbs.
	That's funny because I know this can't come up.
	Yeah.
	I have to bring this up because it's so funny.
	Chefist in the chat just said, and hey, Cheffist, I saw you showed up, that the week after, the day after tomorrow was his favorite movie.
	That's great.
	I think that's the follow-up to day after tomorrow.
	And if anyone wants to give us a call, tell us how you sheltered in place for the Hurricane Matthew.
	Give us a call at 573-837-4948.
	And right as I say that, we've got our first caller.
	Caller, you are on the air.
	Good evening, everyone.
	Good evening.
	Good timing.
	Yes.
	This is Cheffist.
	It's almost like we planned it.
	The floor is yours, Chefist.
	Yes.
	How's everyone going?
	You know, how's it going tonight?
	Great.
	Very good.
	I just wanted to call in and talk a little bit about weather and climate.
	Can I tell a story that might help illustrate where we're at in our current climatological evolution as a planet?
	Just remember that the president said if you do not support global warming, then you are a threat to society.
	So, yeah, sure.
	Tell your story.
	Well, I'm already, I'm a white man.
	I'm already a threat, right?
	According to all of this, Chefists' Lives Matter.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	So, okay.
	So, I had a wonderful flagstone patio put into the house that I used to live in.
	Beautiful flagstone patio.
	I'm down here in Arizona, so we have a lot of flagstone that comes out of the Grand Canyon.
	Okay, wonderful flagstone patio.
	And ultimately, what was discovered upon laying out the flagstone were footprints.
	These were not just prehistoric footprints.
	These were footprints from an era before even reptiles existed.
	In other words, there were no alligators, there were no snakes.
	This is called the Premium era.
	This is before even dinosaurs existed.
	This is about 300 million years ago.
	They're basically little salamanders running around.
	I was hoping you were going to say Nephilim.
	Right.
	So they were there.
	And, you know, it's proven it was wonderful.
	And I'm like, wow, that's amazing.
	I had them.
	I have them in my patio.
	My daughter's like, what are those?
	They look like lizard footprints.
	I'm like, well, they were like salamanders with claws, but we don't even have skeletons of these creatures, right?
	Don't even have that.
	But they all died out along with most of the water life in the oceans.
	Guess what caused that extinction?
	The Permian extinction.
	Guess what caused it?
	Only guess flatulence.
	Yeah, well, you could say that.
	Actually, that's pretty good.
	Nice.
	It was flatulence from the Earth.
	It wasn't a comet.
	It wasn't a meteor.
	It was methane, flatulence, and carbon dioxide from the plumes in Siberia that warmed the planet to the extent that most of the life, 90% of the life on the planet, died.
	Really?
	And guess what?
	There were no humans, only these little reptiles running around.
	They weren't even reptiles.
	They were salamanders.
	So here's the thing: if you think that we can cause this extinction-level event of the planet by what we do, and we haven't even raised the temperature.
	The temperature of the planet's been stagnant for 15 years.
	You need to look at the data.
	You need to understand everything.
	And guess what?
	Yeah.
	Was this 19.5 million years ago?
	This was 300 million years ago.
	Well, I only support dinosaurs.
	I only supported.
	Dinosaurs were 80 million years ago.
	Yeah, I only support theories of our environment that are based in the 19.5 million year range.
	It's just a thing.
	It's a thing that I'm in.
	Yes.
	It's in the data.
	Mr. Hoagland.
	Yeah, it's in the data.
	That's right.
	Everything based on 19.5.
	But just, I just wanted to call in and say it's a great show.
	I wanted to support the show and call in.
	But just to let you know, don't believe everything you hear.
	Don't believe everything you hear.
	That just shatters my reality right there.
	What do you think, Star?
	Oh, I love the.
	I'm sorry.
	No, your moment's past.
	We'll come back to you.
	Okay, so why should we not believe everything, Chepis?
	Well, the point is, because everyone's trying to tell you, well, humans have affected the planet.
	Of course we have.
	We absolutely have.
	But have we affected the planet more than the planet has affected itself?
	And in my opinion, as a scientist, and I am a scientist, no, we haven't.
	And I just can't see what's happening as an effect.
	There's no, once again, just last week, we had 11 years of no hurricanes hitting the U.S. After Katrina, everyone said, well, this is an effective global warming.
	We're going to have 10 or 15 types of Katrinas every year.
	Oh, 11 years, no, oh, Katrina.
	Oh, shoot.
	They're wrong.
	And then when we have Matthew come, which killed about 20 people or so, and in Haiti killed a lot of people.
	And unfortunately, most of the hurricanes killed most of the people in the islands in the Caribbean, unfortunately.
	That's where most of the force of the hurricanes hit.
	There's even articles where there are these climatologists that believe in global warming.
	They're almost sad that more people didn't die.
	It didn't fit their model.
	Well, that's how brainwashed people get.
	You can't be brainwashed left or right.
	You can't be brainwashed with climate.
	Well, going back to science and scientific theory, any kind of theory you're going to come up with is going to have holes in it if you don't have all the data.
	If you don't start from a point of understanding every input and what its potential output could be, you can't really build a model that's going to be accurate.
	And that's what's always confused me.
	you mentioned from 300 million years ago we don't we can't input data for that to figure out what it's going to be like tomorrow because there's not enough data to say you have to have an open mind to say even the smartest scientists no matter how awesome they are and how much you love them they're going to be wrong right and you can't have ultimate faith in any theory and you know what's it take to keep an open mind That's all I'm saying.
	What's it take to keep an open mind?
	Well, you know, I'm a web developer for trade, and I kind of can use the same kind of process and theory behind weather that or behind bug catching in creating bugs as you could with weather.
	So, like, I could reproduce something or my end user could reproduce a bug that I created in a very specific scenario, but that doesn't take into account all the different ways I could be using data and cause a failure in a system.
	So, just because I can...
	Do you ever play games with your friends where you create a bug and see if they can catch them?
	Oh, definitely.
	You've not installed the latest Build of Fire flub, have you?
	Because I put bugs into that all the time.
	It's actually a feature of the bugs.
	We give out a prize to whoever can find the bug first and report it.
	Oh, man.
	On the computer, you know, I just don't.
	My life, I'm a chemist.
	So the bugs I have to find are in the work I do.
	I'm an inkjet chemist, so I have to find the bugs in the systems of inkjet technology.
	And that's what I focus my daily work on.
	But on the computer, the computer is a tool.
	So, you know, it'd be like finding a bug in a pair of pliers.
	It's like, well, I don't really have time to make a better pair of pliers.
	And so that's what I do on a daily basis.
	Even though on the computer, especially people like you and that, I'm intrigued because, you know, I started off with an IBM XT in 1985 that my uncle bought me.
	And when everyone, all my friends either had a candy or some type of Apple, I don't know what that Apple.
	The Apple IIe?
	Yeah, Apple IIe.
	I had an IBM XT.
	So I've always been devoted to that platform.
	At that point, though, they were so close to each other that it's kind of ironic.
	But before I let you go, Chefus, we've got another caller just popped on the line.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I do want to ask you, though, what did you do while Bellgab was down?
	And did you have any conspiracy theories about why it was down?
	Or did everyone know?
	I did Twitter, which was great, because on Twitter, you know, MV was posting, other people were posting.
	And basically on Twitter, everyone said Falki brought it down from the power of his third eye.
	That third eye always gets in the way.
	Not a brown eye, but a third eye.
	Right.
	All right.
	We're ready to go right here.
	I'll let you go.
	All right.
	Thanks for calling.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	Take care.
	Good night.
	All right.
	We've got another caller.
	You are live now.
	I am alive.
	You are alive.
	Good.
	Now we've confirmed that.
	Do you have any amazing stories to share with us or questions for the estrogen cat?
	This is Venus Fireball XL5.
	Who's tinkling those ice cubes over there?
	Someone's tinkling ice cubes.
	I know that sound.
	Well, you have to pick the drink of choice for this episode.
	And I'm not sure who it is who started drinking earlier.
	I think it's Star Mountain.
	She's my idol.
	No.
	Actually, no.
	No, I had to step away and get a glass of water.
	So I'm sorry.
	Blunder came over the tab, so there's no ice kids in it.
	Oh, gosh.
	Okay.
	So how are you doing?
	I'm doing great.
	I was just happening to go on Dell Gabby and see there was a show on tonight, so I thought I'd call in.
	Awesome.
	Does everyone have anticipation for the show tomorrow night with the Faulkster?
	That's very interesting that you mentioned that.
	I'm wondering if we could start a pool right now, or is it already started where we decide how many minutes into the show that he's going to, how many minutes it's going to be until he hangs up.
	And I'm going five minutes.
	You're probably not going to take any calls from people who doesn't want to.
	Right.
	And I guess to get everyone up to speed, this is Falky's going to be on In Today's Radio tomorrow night, right?
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	What time is it?
	I always get it wrong.
	Is it 10.30?
	Is that when the show starts?
	10.30 Eastern?
	10.30 Eastern time.
	Yep, that's right.
	Okay.
	So we all need to show up to show our support for those guys and for the Faulkster.
	I know it.
	So what's going on with Open Lions Jerry?
	I haven't been here for a while, but he used to be on the board all the time.
	Now I don't see him as much.
	I know he kind of, he was a fan of the other guy from Pittsburgh.
	Is he from Pittsburgh?
	I don't know.
	You mean the real guy from Pittsburgh?
	Is that who?
	No, there was Jason.
	There's another guy who does.
	Oh, Jason Callan.
	I think he's in Pennsylvania.
	Dad and Jason, who I think is Pennsylvania.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, see, another soap opera that I can't keep up with all the different characters in.
	I know it.
	Did you happen to hear the last?
	Crazy.
	It is.
	Did you hear the last cab cast where Open Lions Jerry called in?
	Yes.
	I was so impressed by his ability to stay within his character the entire time.
	Yes, I know.
	I mean, I think he's real.
	He's great.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I couldn't hold it.
	I think I haven't laughed that much and that hard while being on air in a long time.
	I just, I had these lines coming into my head, and I went to try to deliver them, and he was so good at his delivery that it was messing me up.
	I know it.
	It's crazy.
	Only on Bellgab.
	That's true.
	That needs to be in the upper right-hand corner, only on Bellgab.
	Oh, really?
	No, it should be, I think.
	I don't know.
	It's still a mystery, isn't it?
	Who actually has control over that?
	But if I had any control, I promise you I would change it.
	Right.
	But anyway, I'll let you go, but I just wanted to call in and say hi to everyone and support the show.
	And say, hi, Miguel.
	Hey.
	We never used to on the board, Mike.
	I've been in there for, I haven't been there for a while.
	I've just been so busy with work and everything, but I come by whenever I can, but I always go to the wrong one.
	I always end up on the Falky's using the Falky, and I should go over to the Bella Haven Girls.
	Well, I'm sorry for creating that thread then.
	It's created so much happiness and sadness.
	It's great.
	Everyone, you know, everyone, they love them, they hate them, but I want to know about Falky.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's like yin and yang, though, when you say the falky thread and Bella Haven in the same breath.
	I know it.
	But a Nazi moron.
	Right.
	Moron being the key word right there.
	There you go, like a huge shrimp.
	But it's a beautiful thing.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Chaos sometimes creates some awesome moments, doesn't it?
	Right, right.
	We just got to go with the flow.
	Yeah, I like to sometimes pretend when I do pop into the falky thread, going back to the soap opera theme of it, I will open up the thread and immediately say, and today the part of, oh gosh, digital pig snuggler will be played by Chefist and then just read all of the posts from that other person as a different poster just to give it a different view.
	I want to ask you something, Red.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Does Falky really believe that there's cameras in his computer and people are tracking him?
	Is that just kind of a thing he's playing?
	Or does he really think it's true?
	Yeah, so from what I can tell, and I've tried to, I put the word try in quotes to communicate with Falky in the past.
	I haven't specifically on this, but from other people that I've talked to who have talked to him, he is pretty strongly sticking to the line that he believes all of that.
	Now, I think everybody else knows that there's no way that's possible.
	It's not true.
	It's just a story that's been put in his head and he can't let it go.
	But in his world, at least when he is whatever, if Falky is a character that gets turned on and off, and I'm still not 100% sure if he's doing performance art or if the performance is being done on him.
	But that Falky character really believes that that's happening.
	Wow.
	Someone, one of the so-called fans probably put that in his head.
	But anyway.
	Yeah, well, I was going to say, didn't he say that he has seen naked pictures of himself from the quote-unquote MV spy cams?
	Right.
	I read that on the Twitter, but I don't know if we're making that up.
	I mean, that's just.
	Yeah, I don't think that's.
	I think there was pictures of him with his shirt off before, but, you know.
	But I don't know.
	Well, I think with Falkie.
	I think Falky, they all love to hate him.
	Yeah.
	I think if you were talking to Falky on Skype and you were to tell him that he just lost a finger, he would actually freak out and call 911 before he would check to see if the finger was gone.
	Oh, gosh.
	But that's why we love him, right?
	Is that he's that trusting and skeptical at the same time.
	It truly is that oxymoron.
	Exactly.
	Well, I think he likes it too, or he wouldn't be dating people to come back at him.
	Right.
	You're right.
	I don't know.
	It's wild.
	But the biggest scammer of all is Kathy.
	I shouldn't say that, but Miss Kathy.
	Yeah, I still don't understand.
	I guess some recent stuff has gone down that I'm not fully privy to, but I've read enough to know that there's enough craziness going on.
	But why does Kathy put up or has put up with him in the past?
	I think I would have been done with that.
	Maybe I would give it three months.
	And if Falky was faulty for three months straight, then I would never talk to him again.
	I know it.
	I know.
	What a crazy story.
	I'm glad my life is drama-free.
	That's why I get all my drama on Bellgab.
	Bell Gab only.
	See, my thing is.
	Yeah, see, I have enough life drama, but then I go to Bell Gab and realize that there's other drama that's worse.
	And you're like, my life's not that bad.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	But then I will admit that I go and I cry, but I don't just cry for myself.
	I cry for the bellgabbers too.
	That's right.
	It might be because I'm low T, who knows?
	Low T.
	Well, I'm low maintenance.
	I used to be high maintenance, but now I'm pretty low maintenance.
	So that's pretty good.
	Well, that's cool.
	That's like a dream for a guy who's low T.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Oh, yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	Low maintenance, but I don't have the effort to put in, so this kind of works out.
	That's perfect.
	Nice.
	All we need now is a I'm going to let you guys go, but it was wonderful talking to you all.
	And I'll do listening, and maybe we'll call in tomorrow night for the other show.
	Yes, we got to have a good show of support.
	I'm glad you mentioned that.
	I'm glad you called in, Dana.
	Pardon me?
	I said, I'm glad you called in.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, I'm glad you're on the show.
	I love listening to you and hearing all your stories and your naked leg selfies and all that.
	So I think you're quite fun.
	Anyway, and Ebby's there too, and it was nice to talk to you.
	And I will talk to you soon.
	All right.
	And it's a wonderful show, and thanks for doing it.
	And no problem.
	I'm glad we're able to all get together and do this.
	Okay.
	Good night, Karen.
	good night so if you would like to call the show uh you can reach us on skype by searching for ufoship.com or you can go to did you guys hear that Did you hear Skype?
	I heard something.
	Why?
	Yes.
	Why was it doing that?
	I had that all turned off.
	That really is annoying.
	But okay.
	So you guys are just going to have to deal with it then.
	You're going to get to hear the sounds of, let's see if I mute all sounds.
	And go back to what I was just saying.
	If you would like to call, go on Skype and search for ufoship.com or by phone, which our last couple callers just did.
	You can reach us at 573-837-4948, and you'll get the added benefit of helping me test whether or not I just turned off Skype sounds.
	So feel free to give us a call.
	Let's jump into some more Bell Gab stuff.
	I have the question that, okay, there's laughing happening.
	What are you anticipating?
	No, I'm just waiting.
	I'm just waiting to see where you're going to go.
	Where I'm going to go.
	Okay, well, I'm heading straight to the nuclear option since we were just talking about Falky.
	What do you think the last post to ever be made on Bell Gab would be?
	Like a hundred years or a thousand years from now, some culture is looking at all of our inner webs and they stumble upon Bell Gab.
	And what's the last post that they read?
	And that makes them, that post makes them go back to the beginning.
	Praise MV.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Yeah.
	Well, they will find out about the culture and deity that was created of MV, won't they?
	And Van Deeven Enterprises.
	Oh, come on.
	You don't have it.
	I know what mine is.
	That's the very last post.
	The very last post.
	And I'll give you mine.
	The last post I think will be made.
	It'll be posted by Lone Voice.
	And what she says is, well, it was fun while it lasted.
	I'm sorry I'm the last one here, but I got to run.
	And it's done.
	Oh.
	That just made me miss her.
	That just made me miss her.
	Well, see, I was looking for a voice of reason to be the last one.
	Yeah, that was quite eloquent.
	I like chefist F you is what he says.
	The last post will be.
	It could be like Chef Hastur, whoever that is in the chat room, says that it's falky and they say, I win.
	Or it could be Open Lines Jerry that says, run, they're going to get you.
	Yeah, it could be another.
	Or Gabrielle in the chat says, who is art?
	100 years from now, is art going to be is art returning?
	Well, is art going to come back in 100 years as a computer program?
	That's my question.
	Oh, God.
	And okay, that's really morbid for me to go the next.
	Wait, when is the last time he posted?
	I mean, it's been a while, right?
	It was after Heather started.
	Once Heather took the reins on Midnight in the Desert, he did come in a couple times, right?
	But has he, when's the last, you know, has he been in recently?
	He came back for one show in March, I believe it was.
	And I think he may have posted something.
	It seemed for a while that he would just come and just post something to stir people up.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	But he posts pretty regularly on Facebook, right?
	Oh, he does.
	I think he does.
	I don't know.
	I followed him for a while until I realized I didn't have a reason to follow him unless I wanted to hear the latest Trump news.
	And so I stopped following him on Twitter after Twitter on Facebook.
	When he was in the hospital.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	How's he doing?
	I don't know.
	I mean, Heather was on coast to coast, wasn't she?
	And I'm trying to think how long ago this was.
	Somebody in the chat will probably be able to tell you.
	But she, huh?
	I think a couple of months ago.
	Right.
	And George announced that Heather was going to be on to give them an update about art.
	And I think she was on for two or three minutes.
	And he flubbed the promo.
	And he was like, and you can find Heather on moving on to our next guest.
	Actually, I don't think he mentioned where you can find her.
	I think he assumed everybody knew who Heather was.
	That's good.
	Well, I didn't listen to Nori's show, but I did listen to whoever it was that posted the blurb, the little interview.
	Thank you to whoever that was.
	Wish I could remember who you are.
	But anyway, somebody had posted that little interview, and it was two or three minutes.
	And Heather really didn't say anything we didn't already know.
	And I'm wondering if Nori was doing it to be mean-spirited, sort of like to remind everybody, like, oh, I'm still here and I'm not dying.
	And he put her out on a limb to do that.
	Well, the thing is, Heather has been critical of him, and rightly so.
	Oh, he was sort of in a position where, you know, she was on his show.
	So he was in a position where it's like, yeah, bitch, insult me now.
	Right.
	Really quick, Logan 5 came through with the research.
	Art's last post was on August 15th, 2016 at 10 p.m. Central Time.
	Oh.
	So yeah, it's been a while.
	And, you know, I wonder, I bet you Heather didn't have any interest in going on George's show.
	It had to be Art or Keith that pushed her out there to do that.
	And I think everything you just said in Glorious is probably correct on how George approached it.
	Because, as Angloria said, she didn't give any information that, you know, we didn't already know.
	And I don't mean just bellgab, but updates that were on her Facebook page.
	So it was just very strange.
	Yeah, well, it all around.
	Having listened to her last conversation with George, it was weird, disconcerting to hear those two together having a friendly conversation.
	And you have to wonder if they did any show prep where they actually talked to each other before.
	I'm wondering if George knew who he was talking to.
	If he realized that's a great question.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	Because he's a little clueless.
	Yeah.
	So I'm wondering if he thought it was just, you know, it's the person that took over for R, but doesn't realize he had spoken to her before.
	Yeah, if Tommy didn't put it on a note card five minutes before the show aired, he didn't know who he was talking to.
	And let's be honest, he's had Falky on his show.
	So that tells me that he knows he's still on there.
	Falky is?
	Yes.
	Now, I will admit, now I usually, with these shows, I usually look to see what the topic is in the guests.
	That's a, you know, that's really.
	Okay, Sean, before you keep going here, I'm ready to hang up on you on this call if you say what I think you're about to.
	Oh, no.
	No, go ahead.
	Okay, well, I kind of do a glance like, all right, is there any good show on tonight?
	So I'll check Clyde Lewis.
	I'll check Midnight in the Desert.
	And I checked the Coast to Coast.
	And usually I will listen if Nap, Nap is on.
	And there was a new one, a recent one.
	I want to say a week or two weeks ago that Falky's still on there once in a while with his little video segment.
	That's so weird.
	Is that the height of Falkie's career is to be on that?
	I think so.
	Okay, at least we were there to see the top.
	Maybe we won't see the bottom.
	But unfortunately, I think we will.
	I'm wondering why George keeps him on because it's not like Falki does riveting videos.
	So I can't imagine there's a big clamor like when he does his videos that Lori gets all these emails.
	Oh, that guy was great.
	And my thing is that Tommy has had send a redo to his videos.
	Like he'll send something in and Tommy will say no.
	And then George has to redo his video.
	But I don't know because I'm not in that mix.
	I'm just reading what everybody else is reading on Bell Daph.
	And why go to all that trouble?
	I mean, what, it's like five minutes?
	Like, why go back and forth editing for this guy?
	I think it's a one-minute video.
	It's for one video, you said?
	One minute is, well, I haven't watched it, but I think it's only a one-minute video.
	And I think that Falki thinks that all the people who listen to Coast are going to flock to his YouTube channel.
	And Kaching.
	Yes.
	I think we figured out he's going to make $25 by 2020.
	And then he's going to owe YouTube for the bandwidth he wasted $160 million.
	Well, those are new people to tell your pity story to and see if you could get some money out of them.
	To Grift.
	Is that the right word for it?
	Or is it a long con?
	What's the proper terminology for him?
	Both.
	I think both, but I think maybe long con because a grift, to me, is more of like, yeah, it takes place over a week, a month, or whatever.
	But I guess both are right.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, what would you do if Falky lived in a town, like the same town you live in, and you bumped into him?
	Would you want to help him out or would you just try to get away?
	I would probably have a broken arm if he bumped into me because I'd be knocked down.
	Good job.
	You're right.
	You know, I think there are Falkies everywhere.
	I mean.
	Now I'm scared, but you're probably right.
	I mean, they're just not, you know, promoting themselves on the internet.
	You know, I think, and again, I'm someone that I haven't fully immersed myself with the thread to know everything.
	I just get bits and pieces.
	Well, Sean, we have an entire DVD set that you can order for $19.
	Like, I listened to those Falky leaks from that last show.
	Let's not even go there.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	All of a sudden, that causes all kinds of anxiety for me.
	But out of curiosity, I watched a few of the videos just because I was, you know, intrigued with the responses.
	But I think there are many of them out there.
	We just don't, you know, we go about our day, we get in our car, we go to work, you know, we go to the grocery store.
	I don't think we're like, you know, aware of them, but I believe they're all out there.
	And female Falkies, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now my mind's blown.
	I don't know how I could deal with that.
	Because what if a Falkie married a Falky?
	Oh, no.
	How would that work?
	Well, there's Falki and Kathy.
	They both seem to grift off of each other.
	Well, okay, so somehow she's getting him to pay all her bills, even though she gets a government check as well.
	Wow.
	You know what?
	I hadn't really thought about that, but you're correct.
	So that means for as good a Falky is for getting things for free, he actually connected with somebody who happens to be married already, who is getting things off of a guy who has nothing.
	Married and that's a Falki.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Talking about having some side going on.
	And it ends up being Falky.
	That's your side, whatever.
	Whatever he is.
	I got some side Falky.
	All right, moving on.
	I got to get away from this topic.
	It's making me uncomfortable.
	I felt like I was going down a road there that's not good for me.
	So have you picked out your Halloween costumes?
	I'm going to go as Falky now, I think.
	Yes.
	What are you going as?
	Well, I want to do something.
	We have a couple parties to go to, and I really kind of am low maintenance.
	I don't have the energy to go through the whole spiel of, you know, but actually it just kind of popped into my head because I was one of my favorite costumes that I wore years ago when I was in Vegas for Halloween was I went as Winona Ryder after the Saks Fifth Avenue theft situation.
	Now, the Halloween party, you know, I mean, it was already all over the news.
	So the Halloween had just happened kind of while it was all in the media.
	And I had the same hairstyle and I just wore a little white button-up coat and I had the little flat shoes and I carried all these sacks bags and had the alarm devices kind of hanging out of my pockets.
	And, you know, oh, that's very clever.
	And I was thinking, maybe I could go as Winona Ryder again, but as her character in Stranger Things.
	And all I need to do is just wear a flannel shirt, pair of jeans, and carry around Christmas lights.
	That's true.
	That's pretty good, actually.
	You can bring it full circle.
	Not everyone's going to know.
	I mean, I think Stranger Things is, I think a majority of people kind of know it.
	And then if I get really lazy, I just go, I just do the white makeup vampire thing.
	You know, I could go with the Stranger Things too.
	I could shave my head and go as the girl in it.
	Yes, let's do that.
	Nice.
	We have a collar on the line, too.
	Collar, do you think that's a good idea for me?
	The look of me with a shaved head dressed in a dress on the 11, yes.
	What would be better if you shoplifted the lights that Winona Ryder had?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I think we have connoisseur of Falki on the line with us.
	Chefist, how are you?
	Yeah, I'm back.
	I'm sorry.
	You know, we had to go back and we had to talk about a little bit of something.
	And, of course, you interrupted my train of thought.
	And so I called in specifically.
	Oh, my God.
	You just, oh, you just broke it.
	I was so excited about talking about Winona Ryder shoplifting.
	Hey, you know, I am too.
	I'd like to have been the security person who found that.
	Oh, my God.
	Could you imagine?
	No, but so this Halloween.
	So, you know, I'm thinking about taking my daughter to one of these haunted houses.
	Actually, I'm glad you bring this up because I'm an error.
	She's eight years old, and it's supposedly really scary.
	You know, online, it shows like these people eating human beings and whatever.
	Should I or shouldn't I take her at this?
	She tells me, Dad, I'm fine.
	I can handle it, whatever.
	Should I do it?
	Let me ask you a question.
	As long as there aren't any clowns.
	We'll get there in just a moment.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	So your daughter, does she watch horror movies or scary movies at all?
	She does.
	And what's her reaction to those?
	Her reaction is she understands it's all fake.
	It's all make-believe.
	She doesn't have nightmares.
	She doesn't do that.
	And so she likes scary stories.
	She likes me to tell her scary stories.
	But still, I don't want to take her into a situation where, you know, I don't know what's going to happen.
	Should I?
	In other words, would you good people take your eight-year-old daughter, who's innocent?
	My daughter's as innocent as can be.
	But educated, would you take her to one of these really horrible, you know, here in Tucson, you know what they call it?
	The slaughterhouse.
	Slaughterhouse.
	Shepas?
	Yeah.
	I would do it if I knew the people personally, if they were part of my friendship group.
	But if it was just somebody I didn't know squad about putting it on, then no.
	I would if I knew the people that they were.
	People are from the, I'm here in Tucson.
	Most of them are from the university, the University of Arizona.
	Oh, so they don't have children of their own?
	No, no.
	I'd check it out first.
	That's a good subtle thing.
	That's a good idea.
	Yeah.
	That'd be a little weird if they didn't have children.
	Well, you would be with her, presumably, right?
	Well, I would go first.
	I think Starr just said it.
	I should go by myself.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	See what goes on.
	Because they also have these big paintball, you know, what do you call them, walking dead type of mazes where you go out.
	Basically, it's like a hayride.
	I don't know how many people out there know what a hayride is.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You go on a hayride, and then you just start shooting dead people.
	I've not seen that.
	That's awesome.
	That sounds a lot scary.
	I wouldn't take my daughter for that, but I would do that.
	But, yeah, okay.
	Well, I just wanted to call in and throw that out there, and maybe we can discuss it.
	So I'll get off.
	Okay, well, let's go around the horn and see who what the votes are.
	So, Sean, do you say yes or no?
	If he goes first.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	And Gloria Spitch.
	Yes.
	And Star Mountain.
	Well, that depends on what he finds after he goes through.
	If he approves of it as a father, fine.
	If he doesn't, then no.
	You're such a great voice of reason.
	I like that.
	Thank you, guys.
	Thank you.
	But something else you can consider is that with our litigious society, I don't think that any place would scare people so badly that they could get sued.
	Like, God forbid, somebody has a heart attack or a panic attack and then they're all freaked out.
	So I think that there's a limit on how quote-unquote scary any sort of like haunted house would be.
	But that's just, I don't know.
	That's true.
	I'm glad he mentioned that because I'm sort of bumping up to the same thing.
	My daughter is older than his.
	She's 11 and she's been, sorry, she's 12.
	Wow.
	She's growing up too quick.
	But yeah, it's not fair.
	And she wants to go to a haunted house and she hadn't been yet.
	And just because it hadn't worked out, we hadn't thought about it, but she wants to now.
	And I'm trying to decide: do I go with her for a 12-year-old?
	Do I go with her and some friends, or do I let her just go with friends?
	And it's probably not as scary.
	It doesn't have the one she wants to go through isn't slaughterhouse, isn't in the name of it, but it's like households.
	I've got to check it out first.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just before, you know, when they set it up and stuff, and just get an idea of what's going to be going on.
	At 12, yeah, I know kids are older at the same age than when we were kids, but still, 12 is pretty young yet.
	14, 15, I think you'd embarrass her, but 12, yeah, dad built.
	Well, hey, I'm the dad.
	That's my sole job in life is to embarrass her, isn't it?
	Yes.
	We have someone else on the line.
	Call her.
	You are on the air.
	Hello.
	How's everybody doing?
	Hey, doing well.
	Who do we have on the line with us?
	Oh, this is Damon.
	Hey, Damon.
	How are you?
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Yeah, I was wondering if anybody's going to dress up like the Senta Monster for Halloween.
	I haven't found enough material yet to make the outfit, but I was thinking about it.
	Okay.
	Are you guys ready for the show on In the Days Radio with George Senta aka the Centa Monster?
	Yes.
	So what's the yeah, go ahead.
	Hi, Evie.
	Oh, I just said that's tomorrow night.
	Yeah.
	What are you most looking forward to on that call, Damon?
	I'm just trying to listen to all Falki's lies and stuff because I know he lies about me all the time.
	So I was kind of curious what has everybody been thinking about about George's being a guest host or being the guest of In the Day's Radio.
	Well, here's my question.
	Are you going to call in or do you have any plans to?
	And if so, what's your first question you're going to hit him up with?
	I like to know why he tried to call GoDaddy and try to pretend to be me.
	Oh, he did?
	I haven't heard this, so he did.
	Yeah, he did other stuff.
	I didn't mention to you and Jazz on your guys' pod show, but he did try to call in his student major to re-establish.
	Oh, that's right.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there's a Nori Gab.
	And so it's like, and of course, he says, of course, he even called me and says that he's trying to pretend to be meanless stuff.
	And so it was entertaining.
	Yeah, I forgot that you had set up probably one of the best trolling efforts ever in that with Nori Gab.
	Yeah, so he did try to call the GoDaddy and their stuff to try to pretend to be meanless stuff, which he says he didn't, but of course, we all know that he lies.
	Right.
	Do you think that he's being watched by somebody right now?
	Somebody is spying on him?
	No, because I admitted it back in One that presides his as a joke says, yeah, there's probably malware on there as a joke.
	I have no proof that if there is or isn't malware on there.
	So, and so yeah, he claims to have the no-computer skills, but he knows Jack Squad.
	Right.
	I still think that he is the worst nightmare of an Apple technician.
	Right.
	Of course, he's forgetting what the 16th president said about the internet.
	That you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
	That's right.
	You know, I'm a connoisseur of quotes from Abraham Lincoln, and that's one of them that stands out the most to me.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So, so, of course, Falki regularly forgets because he bitched to be about me, but he didn't realize who I was, basically.
	Yeah.
	So, is there really a Justin, or is that just a made-up character?
	I think it's just made up.
	Well, I think it's somebody who talks to him, um, but pretends to be Justin, and Falkey tells him everything.
	And I'm wondering if maybe, quote-unquote, Justin is the person behind the leaks.
	He's the smoking gun.
	That's a good theory.
	So, maybe Justin's a platform.
	It's probably Area 51 drone who's leaker.
	You're throwing down your money on Aries 51 drone.
	Yeah, I'll put a large pizza on that.
	Nice.
	Send it to Falki's house, please.
	Okay.
	Another thing with Falki is that he bitches about us being trolling him and not getting to his business, but he puts all his business online and in forums and YouTube and such and such, et cetera.
	So if he doesn't want us to be in his quote business, he shouldn't be posting that online.
	Yeah, he needs to understand what a filter is, like a personal filter and a virus and spyware filter, too.
	He needs to.
	And it's the perfect, like, it's, again, talking about if he is a character, that he's trolling the trollers to pretend like he's offended by all this personal information getting out there when he's the one who does it.
	If he's not a character, then wow, I would not want to be his therapist because I think that person would quit.
	Yeah, basically, surfing on the internet is kind of like sex.
	You have to use protection and common sense.
	Yes, except I spend a lot more time on the internet than the latter.
	Yeah, because if you surf the internet, that's CTD with computer-transmitted disease.
	That's our episode name right there: computer-transmitted disease.
	Nice.
	So we've got the ladies of Bellgab here, and we've been kicking out advice.
	Anything you need advice for?
	No, not right now, except for what are the winning auto numbers for the Powerball.
	I think if we did, I would throw $5 to everybody.
	All Bell Gabbers get five bucks from me if I won the lotto.
	And it's more than $200 million.
	I got to put that out there because you guys will.
	I know how you bell gabbers are.
	You put a little bit of food out one night, and then you're back every day going forward.
	Right.
	So I was like, you know, you guys are doing a good job.
	And hopefully, we can do this more often than having a bell gab.
	Yep, I agree.
	I agree.
	Everyone's doing a really good job.
	Hopefully, I'm keeping up.
	Thanks for giving us a call.
	Okay.
	Talk to you later.
	Great.
	See you.
	Take care.
	Have a good night.
	Good night.
	And if you would like to call in and ask your questions to the group and find out what Estrogen Cast has to say about your life troubles, give us a call at 573-837-4948.
	I guarantee whatever advice the ladies give you will be infinitely better than what I have to say.
	Okay, heard it.
	Syllables.
	Okay.
	Estrogen, there's three.
	Toss from testosterone, there's four.
	So you would need a toss.
	So it would be testostergen.
	Well, no, I've said I'm claiming low testosterone.
	Right.
	Right.
	That's why you only get one syllable.
	I only get one.
	Okay.
	Although my wife is pregnant and we're getting ready to have another, you know, in February, another child.
	So I guess that eliminates my low T thought, doesn't it?
	Congratulations.
	That's wonderful.
	Well, thank you.
	This is probably the only gab cast I could say that and hear that.
	Everyone else would be like, all right, move on.
	Yeah, we are adding another to our group.
	And we just recently found out it's a girl.
	So in my house, girls will outnumber guys very soon.
	Right now we're even.
	Like Ben even.
	He's got girls.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	So I'm saying that right after this one's born, we have to try again to see if we can either skew the numbers too far to where I can't win or we level it up again.
	So that way.
	I know something years ago when I was seeing my pediatrician in the waiting room, it depends on the mother's the acid or the alkaline level in her body, which determines the gender of the baby at the time of concession.
	So do some research on that and find out what foods are alkaline or acidic and then have ask her to eat certain foods that 80%.
	Okay, so it's not perfect, but it puts the odds in favor of deciding your baby's gender before it's born.
	So Google that and do some research on that.
	Okay, I had heard that it was the guy who determined the gender of the baby.
	Yeah, well, no.
	I mean, guys, I mean, I have yet to find a guy who really is worth their weight and anything.
	So it doesn't surprise me to find out that I really had no, like, I was just there.
	I really have no control on any outcomes.
	Yeah, well, I just, I don't know.
	Why do you even think they call her mother nature?
	Anyway, you need that Y chromosome from the man, but I've heard the same thing, Star, that depending on the acidic whatever in the lining of the uterus, like how much acid that can kill off Y chromosomes.
	Right, right.
	I mean, it's sperm.
	Well, so you're saying that even the guy swimmers are weak is what you're telling me.
	Well, even on order.
	Yeah, what you were saying, depending on in the uterus, the chemical composition, because some sperm may not make it.
	Most sperm actually die.
	Well, I mean, I totally believe the idea that men are sort of irrelevant in the process because there's no way I could birth a child.
	I mean, it's not going to happen.
	Like, I couldn't, obviously, physically, I'm not going to be able to do it.
	But if I were female, I would just, I couldn't imagine.
	There is a strain of frogs, and this I've read in the Science magazine or science website, where all the in this certain species are all female, yet they reproduce.
	The downside is it's like, well, like in England where you get inbreeding and there isn't much change.
	So, but it happens.
	I think it's in South America.
	I'm not sure.
	It's a species of frog.
	Well, I just think that men couldn't handle it because we're weaker, case in point, Donald Trump.
	We don't have the pumming, man.
	That would hurt.
	Seahorse.
	We only have two outlets.
	With the seahorses, isn't it the male seahorse that gives birth?
	No.
	No, the female gives birth, and then the daddy takes care, and mom goes on that flight.
	So the moms are players?
	No, I think the male seahorses do have the babies.
	Yes, yes, I take that back.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I'm very glad that I'm not a seahorse.
	I'm glad we took that off the list.
	I don't think my back could take it.
	That's just a start.
	So now that we've talked about it.
	Oh, yes, you're right.
	Yeah, a pregnant me.
	Yeah.
	I actually kind of got the look going.
	I like to say that I'm putting on weight specifically for the fact that it's sympathy weight.
	So I can gain like another, even though I just recently lost about 25 pounds, I can put on maybe 30 and it's sympathy weight.
	Okay, but trade your legs for a seahorse tail.
	No, because I'm scared of the outcome of that one.
	I'm telling you, I'm looking, there's two things I know I'm too weak for.
	One is childbirth.
	Two is prison.
	Everything else, I'm good.
	Well, both might happen.
	You could go to prison.
	Well, yeah, right.
	Well, one could lead to the other.
	So that's why I.
	Yes, yes, that's what I meant.
	If you.
	If you ever wondered why, why does Red, the Mud King, Curtis drive the straight and narrow path of life, it's because of those two overriding fears in my life.
	Everything else is a result of that.
	I was thinking I could draw a caricature of you as a seahorse in prison.
	I'm intrigued and scared at the same time, which I think all great art starts with.
	If you did that, that would become my Twitter avatar and my Bell Gab.
	I'll do it.
	It won't take long.
	I have some free time between paintings.
	So I'll work on that.
	Nice.
	Cool.
	Well, I mentioned the trigger word for everyone in the chat and anyone who wants to call in.
	Yeah, did everyone else hear the word?
	Yes.
	It's huge.
	It's going to be amazing.
	A lot of people, I've heard a lot of newspapers and TV shows talking about it, and it's the election.
	It's Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton.
	Oh, and we don't have to, if you don't want to, you don't have to say who you're going to vote for.
	That's irrelevant.
	I think there's enough comedy in this comedy and fear or whatever, you know, sadness that we can talk about it without having to get to that level of personalization.
	But feel free to share if you want to.
	So who you're voting for.
	I mean, what did you guys think of Donald Trump's recent audio and video?
	Do you find that to be locker room talk or not?
	Or do you think too much is made out of that?
	And the other where he's being slandered, I figured they would try to do something like that to distract from the WikiLeaks, but not for me.
	But there's just one thing that all I'm going to say about Trump is self-funding.
	He doesn't have anybody trying to manipulate him.
	So that's all I'm going to say.
	But maybe he's going to try to influence himself, though.
	Maybe that's why he's pouring so much money into his own self-funded campaign.
	Yeah, but look what he has done.
	He's taken shit and rebuilt it and refurbished it.
	And it's great.
	People are living well in those areas.
	So, yeah, I would like to see that happen all over the place.
	I just, I like his, I like his platform.
	I feel safe.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I was going to say, I feel that, yeah, Trump is not the greatest guy, but he's head and shoulders above Hillary.
	And I feel like their camp, Hillary's camp, has like nothing on him.
	So they have to go back 10 years to some random remark he made.
	And I think the reality is men talk like that when they're amongst themselves.
	It doesn't make them bad people.
	It's just, you know, like the way when we gals get together, we're not always very kind.
	You should have heard the pre-show.
	Wow.
	I did not realize it was like that.
	So I think that they're just making a mountain out of a molehill in terms of what he said.
	And I haven't really been watching the, what you may call it, the debates, because to me, it's all a dog and pony show.
	So I'm not going to waste my time.
	However, there was a little clip that I saw where Trump was saying something.
	I think Hillary was trying to once again paint Trump with the misogynist brush.
	And Trump said, well, something to the effect of at least I'm not a rapist like your husband.
	And that was just like a week ago that those debates went on.
	So I also knowing how dirty Hillary plays, I'm also not surprised that she's pulling this.
	All of a sudden, all these women, like three weeks before the elections, are all raped by Trump.
	Amazing.
	Nobody came forward at the time or in the past few years or even a year ago or even six months ago.
	But now suddenly everybody's been raped and grabbed by Trump.
	Unbelievable.
	Amazing.
	I didn't really think about it until just now.
	You have a being where you're at, a perspective on both of them are tied to you a lot more because you have Trump, obviously, who's a big figure in New York, regardless.
	And then you have Hillary, who is the Senate or was the former senator from your state.
	So you've experienced them both in a way that I haven't from Little Old, Indiana.
	Yeah, and Trump is painted as some sort of a racist, but where Hillary lives in Chappaqua, that is very wealthy and very white.
	I mean, she could live in Manhattan or she could live anywhere else where it's a little more mixed if she wanted to, but she is basically ensconced.
	I'm sure she, well, they must have like gates because Clinton had been the president.
	They must have like these big fences and gates and secret service around their own property.
	So they don't really have to even interact with anybody.
	But I met somebody from Chappaqua a few years ago and I asked her, I was like, have you ever bumped into Clinton?
	And she said, yeah, that Bill had been in a deli, had gone into a deli and he was surrounded by secret service.
	So she kind of was breathing the same air as him, but she didn't really interact with him.
	But it's like I said, it's very, very wealthy, very white.
	Well, really quick, it wouldn't be a gab cast without a rant.
	And my rant is going to be, Cheffister, if you want to post in the chat junk, call in first.
	I'll kick you out of the chat room if you're not going to come in here and say stuff on the air.
	What is he saying?
	Nothing major, but trying to be a little reviewer live on the show.
	And I haven't heard them call yet.
	Obviously, that's not Cheffist.
	But Cheffister, put up or shut up.
	I'm not in the chat, so I have no idea of what he's saying.
	Anyway, continue.
	Oh, that was it.
	I just wanted to put that out there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I didn't feel the need to go all wrestler voice on it, but maybe next time.
	Yeah, so you're not buying into Hillary having a high ground, it sounds like, in his election.
	No, not at all.
	Plus, there had been, and of course people do lie, but there had been a YouTube video with a former Secret Service agent.
	And he had discussed his time working under the Clintons and how Hillary would go in, like storm into like Bill's office or wherever he was, shrieking at him, how one time she threw some really expensive vase across the room and shouted it.
	And again, people lie, who knows?
	Maybe he's making the whole thing up.
	Oh, because he wrote a book recently, so I'm always a little suspect, but that seems in keeping with her character, even the way when she was being interviewed about Benghazi, you know, that now famous quote, well, what difference does it make now?
	Or something to that effect.
	And she was like all snappy.
	Like, you know, you have a lot of balls to be responsible for something.
	And then when you're questioned on it or investigated, you have the attitude.
	So I can see her lashing out at people verbally.
	Yeah, you know, this election, when it comes to like personality-wise, you've got Hillary who doesn't seem to take responsibility for anything in her life.
	And there's been plenty of things to need to stand up for and at least say why you did what you did.
	And then you've got Trump, who has a business experience that shows he knows how to get things done.
	But as a human being, he doesn't interact on a level that most of us would.
	And I think the electorate on a personal level would not want to hang out with either of these people.
	And we're stuck having to pick one of them.
	It's throwing a hissy fit according to Schaffester, but notice that they typed that.
	They didn't say it.
	I'm brave enough to say what you typed, but are you brave enough to say it?
	I think that would be the question.
	But yeah, I think we're stuck with a situation where who is worse and who can we deal with the most?
	Well, I think Trump relates to the middle class better than he does to the upper crust.
	Yeah.
	And he does.
	I mean, he has kind of this middle class get down in the dirt and work and do it.
	I mean, he learned from his dad would go in after the Corridor for the day and pick up nails and bits and pieces of usable supplies to put back to save money.
	So that's, you know, that's a good thing.
	And the fact he can relate to the middle class because it's he didn't do, didn't say stuff, you know, get past the locker room crap.
	But he's got the best interests of the country at heart.
	And because he knows when the country does well, he'll do well.
	When he does well, the country does well.
	It's, you know, it's a give and take.
	And one helps out the other.
	And he sees that.
	And a lot of people, I don't know whether they, I don't know, I can't speak for anybody but me.
	I think, geez, this is really tough.
	I think it's really, you know, kind of following through with what Star is saying, I think we're all just really fatigued and weary because we have real life issues in our own backyard.
	You know, we've got health care.
	We've got, I mean, really serious issues that are affecting us in many different ways.
	You know, we all have different backgrounds.
	My personal life and how it affects me is going to be entirely different than either of you.
	And so through that lens, you know, we can't always be in agreement because I think it's like, well, how is this affecting my life, my work, my health care?
	You know, all the, you know, I don't have children, but education, these really big serious issues.
	And I think that we've all become, I have, I can only speak for myself, just feeling tired and fatigued of the same old polished and very well-manufactured political agenda that's, you know, we have the media part.
	And, you know, now with social media, putting that aside, it's a shellac.
	And I think we've all been fed it for so long that we just have gotten like sick of it.
	And then you have someone like Trump who is not polished.
	And of course, you know, he had to be after the first debate, you know, we could tell from the last debate, from what I understand, you know, he had had some coaching, but he kind of just says this stuff that's not politically correct.
	That's not so, you know, Hillary is so polished to me that I don't get a sense of a person underneath that exterior.
	And it's not, okay.
	Now, here's the thing.
	I can't say whether, you know, there's going to be aspects of every person you don't like.
	And, you know, that's the case for Donald Trump.
	But sometimes he just shoots shit out of his mouth, which a lot of us are thinking, but terrified to say.
	And I don't think we hear that that often in the political arena.
	And I think for someone like myself, because my husband's like, well, you're a liberal.
	I'm not really a liberal.
	I'm just someone that's reaching an age that we like we all are like, how is this affecting things, that our life of progressing forward?
	You know issues on immigration, whatever side of the side you're on, how is it impacting your own personal life, your family and the future of your children?
	And so when we have someone that's kind of messy, it shook things up a bit and then I think people kind of came out of their sleep and went, oh, what's this?
	And as far as the audio tapes because ironically, before I logged in, I glanced on Twitter and there's even more stuff coming out of what he said about Lindsay Lohan and all this stuff is just and I just part of me wants to push that aside, because I clearly want to educate myself and learn from people that have been doing a little more homework during this election than I have,
	because I'm very cautious in making a statement that I'm not, that I don't have anything to back up behind it, rather than just shooting my mouth off on Facebook and Twitter.
	You know I'm trying to follow the people that are like, okay, they have this and this and this to show me where does this come from, and it's very hard to weed through it all, and I admire those that are really passionate and care on both sides, but I think, with Trump, there was just something.
	It broke that exterior of that shellac and what we were just you know, I don't know.
	It's frustrating.
	Yeah, I mean, I think what you just said was was great, and it fits pretty well to my thought, or my thought process.
	My problem though, is that last part of what you said about basically, you know, waking up and seeing and and having you know someone like Trump, who makes people look at things from a different point of view.
	My problem is Go ahead.
	Well, I would say all of that happened to me two elections ago.
	And now I'm stuck with two candidates and Trump and Clinton that neither of them do anything for me.
	And I don't believe they're going to push the needle any farther.
	I think that they're really just more of the same in different wrappings.
	I mean, Trump does play a different part in terms of how he communicates.
	And I like that better and how he's breaking up the message.
	But I don't necessarily agree with his message.
	So I find it hard to vote for him.
	So like it's, it's so frustrating for me to see that other people are starting to look at things differently now because of what I will call the Trump effect.
	But we don't have that candidate that I think is the full picture.
	We end up having a reality TV star.
	I don't think so either.
	You know, delivery and presentation is entirely different.
	That's your on-stage persona.
	But when it comes to offstage and really doing the work, I mean, you know, like you said, we kind of keep going through this and you're just like, so yeah.
	Yeah, you just, I just wonder who's in the background, you know, and I don't mean to sound like, oh, there's a big conspiracy kind of thing, but there are other players in this that I don't think we're fully aware of.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, let's go down that road.
	What do you guys think about that?
	As soon as you showed me the street sign for an exit for bigger hands behind the scenes, I got to take that exit.
	I don't care if you told me to keep going.
	It's two exits down.
	I'm doing it.
	But do you guys think the president has any real power when it comes to changing things?
	So Trump.
	Limited power.
	Well, first of all, he's only one branch.
	There's the judicial and the legislate.
	What is it?
	The executive, judicial, and the legislative.
	Thank you.
	No problem.
	So there's only so much power that somebody's going to have as president.
	And I do believe, not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe that there are very powerful people that run the world.
	And not just because somebody said it one time and it sounded good.
	So I'm repeating it now.
	No, I mean, I watch a lot of stuff on YouTube.
	Some of it is by people like Alex Jones that I know are considered the fringe and some like David Icke.
	And actually David is a very intelligent man.
	It makes me sad that people, when they hear the name David Icke, they have that knee-jerk reaction.
	Oh, David Icke, oh, let's make fun of whatever he's going to say.
	If you watch the predictions that he's made, if you watch some older videos, maybe a couple of years old, he basically is predicting everything that happens as it happens now.
	So I do feel that there's very powerful people who are controlling everything, controlling not just the president of the United States, but controlling presidents and leaders of other countries.
	And these are the very wealthy people.
	And let's face it, what's that expression?
	Money talks, bullshit walks.
	And I think it happens everywhere.
	Growing up, I always felt like, oh, I know that in other countries there's corruption, but thank God stuff like that doesn't happen much here.
	But now, like as an adult, I just feel like our government from the top down, even to our like the local congressmen, everybody is so corrupt and everybody is such a whore, a political whore and they're for sale.
	And they don't care.
	They will say whatever they need to say to get elected.
	And like you said, Shine, it's, you know, all of us have issues that we're dealing with.
	And when a politician says, hey, I'm going to fix ABNC for you, you want to vote for them.
	But how many times can we do this?
	It's like Lucy pulling the ball out from Charlie Brown.
	It's like, how many times?
	Yeah, like Red was saying, like I voted for Obama twice because to me he was like the savior.
	I was like, oh my God, you know, he's going to change everything.
	He's not an insider.
	He is somebody who came from like a single parent family.
	He knows what it's like to work for things, blah, blah, blah.
	I guess I bought the bullshit.
	You know, I bought the line that they were putting out with the liberal, like when I listened to Air America and stuff like that.
	They would say all these things.
	And of course, anybody, like Bush was the Antichrist and everybody conservative.
	And I bought it until I got to a point where I started thinking for myself and I started realizing, no, I'm being lied to.
	Like Obama really is not that much different from Bush.
	One time, then he's going to close Guantanamo and pull our troops out.
	Thanks.
	None of that happens.
	I've argued with people for so long that there's not that big of a difference.
	Ultimately, once Obama got into the office, there wasn't that much of a difference between Bush and Obama.
	It's so nice to hear you say that.
	I was going to ask you now that the relationship is almost over with Barack seven and a half or I guess seven and three fourths of the way through.
	Do you feel like he did any of the things you thought he would or are you disappointed?
	I'm disappointed.
	We've got a caller on the line.
	What's your opinion?
	Are you happy or disappointed with the Obama presidency?
	It's expected.
	So I own a business down here in Tucson.
	I have around 60 employees in my business.
	I started the business in 2010, 2010.
	I knew that my primary competition was Asia Pacific.
	I knew that.
	So I had to adjust my business to compete with them.
	Primarily, my business is a competition against patent law, patent law, which Trump has brought up, just so you know.
	And I'm going to tell you one thing.
	The wealth of our country is being distributed outside of the country.
	And there's a very simple reason why.
	So if you're a Democrat and you're running to be a Democrat and you want to vilify business, you tell them business is not paying their fair share.
	We're going to increase their corporate tax.
	Guess what the highest expense a corporation spends?
	I just want to ask you, tell me what you think the highest expense a corporation spends.
	I know what it is.
	I'm pretty sure I know what it is, so I'll let the group.
	What is it?
	Well, it's legal fees.
	Incorrect.
	Okay.
	I would say the salaries of workers.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Labor.
	Labor is the number one expense.
	So if you can take it and put it in another country where it's cheaper or bring in immigrants that will work for cheaper, you lower your biggest expense.
	You know, the Democrats say, I'll raise their taxes by 2%.
	3%.
	They need to pay their, quote, fair share.
	But then, in the backside, like Hillary said, there's a public and a private view, which means lying to the public and telling the truth.
	I'll reduce your labor costs by 40%.
	What are, you know, businesses don't care if you vilify them as long as you let them leave and bring their stuff in made from China or wherever.
	That's what people don't understand.
	They don't understand that all the politicians, both sides, Republican and Democrat, they let everything go out.
	And then, guess what?
	All your jobs are gone.
	And then you vilified the businesses, and they're like, oh, vilify us.
	We don't care as long as you're legit leave and bring our stuff in.
	That's the trick.
	That's what people that vote Democrat don't know.
	And even Republican don't know.
	That's the trick.
	Well, you bring up something there with even Republicans don't know because there was a Republican administration with a very strong control over Congress and they still didn't do anything to help the small business owner like yourself.
	That's because they're paid not to.
	They're voted into office.
	Donald Trump, love him or hate him, whether you think he's horrible against women, even though you give Bill Clinton a pass, at least he's the guy.
	He's a real estate guy.
	So he's not beholden to the business guys.
	He's a real estate guy.
	You buy and sell real estate.
	Yeah, but look what the real estate market did to our.
	And I understand there's a lot behind this, but look at the real estate bubble and what happened when it crashed and the effect it had on the economy.
	And I understand that that was just a guy.
	He had nothing to do with that.
	No, I agree.
	I'm not trying to put that on him at all, but I'm just saying that the real estate business is such a you've got to remember in the last election, there was Mitt Romney, almost the cleanest guy.
	There was no woman that he raped or had an affair with or anything.
	He had a binder, though.
	Just like me, I have a binder full of podcasters.
	He had a binder full of women.
	They wouldn't make a bid.
	Oh, he put a dog on the roof of his car.
	He hates animals.
	Oh, he had an employee die of cancer.
	He hates people that die of cancer.
	Here's the thing.
	You're going to make it up no matter what.
	Oh, Curtis, he lives in Ohio.
	You know what?
	The people in Ohio, they hate everyone.
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	They make it up.
	Right.
	Yeah, they're going to find something.
	Yeah.
	So that's the thing.
	And people need to look at what propaganda is.
	And I'm just waiting for the word propaganda.
	No one said it.
	I'm waiting for propaganda because that's what it is.
	I see them as lies.
	And who was it that was saying, was it Shine that was saying that Hillary is very slick?
	Or was it Red?
	Somebody was saying that she's very slick and people are sick of it.
	Yeah, because it comes across as so fake.
	Nobody is, well, sadly, there's always Kool-Aid drinkers, but most of us, I think, aren't buying it.
	And that's not to say that Trump is a wonderful person, but I don't see him as being as corrupt.
	And I honestly feel he does care for this country as opposed to Hillary, who would sell her grandmother for a nickel.
	Correct.
	Now, we're going to find out in this election what's more powerful, the old media or the internet.
	Well, the media seems to be ignoring everything, like all these things that Hillary, I mean, Whitewater, Benghazi, all that stuff is swept under the carpet.
	And oh, Trump said something sexist 10 years ago.
	Really?
	Every day, actually, not every few days, every day you hear something new from the mainstream media against Trump.
	It's like they spin whatever they can.
	Whatever he does has to be spun so that it makes him the Antichrist.
	And they're giving Hillary a total pass.
	Even John McCain, they found some woman that said John McCain did something to her sex.
	Come on.
	The guy can't even walk.
	And There's going to be some woman that said, John McCain came on to me.
	Ridiculous at this point.
	That's what our government likes to use because the CIA, well, allegedly, I don't know.
	I'm not in the CIA, but allegedly, what's his name, Assange Julian Assange?
	Assange had a trist with two different women, and both of those women are saying now that he's a rapist, and that's why he's holding up in the embassy.
	He can't, because whatever embassy he's in is not going to extradite him.
	And that's how our government plays.
	It's sad to say.
	The people in control.
	I'm not anti-government.
	I'm just anti-the crooks that are in our government right now.
	How many women tomorrow are going to say Chefist raped them?
	Give me a break.
	Malki might say that.
	You just created a new reality by saying that, Ebie.
	Iby.
	What's the right way I should say that?
	Is it Eb Iby and Glorious Bay?
	E.B. E. E. E. I'm so bad at it.
	I have to thank DPS for that because he was the one, the first person who called me that.
	And it stuck.
	See, my OCD kicks in because I know it's not an E for you're not E-glorious.
	You're inglorious.
	So it's hard for me to do that, but I'm trying to, I'm going to force myself to make that work.
	Chefist, I think you said something a pretty clear thought that is going to be something that's studied years from now.
	But I want to add a third part to it where you said that this is going to be the media versus the internet.
	But I would add a third into it.
	And I would say that the political machine is a separate entity from the media.
	And they're a player in this too.
	I think the political machine or the political industrial complex, if you want to use a different word for it, has a heavy influence on the media, but is different from it.
	I think they work close together.
	Who owns the media?
	Look at the corporations that own the media outlets.
	You have to look at that.
	That's huge.
	You're going to say whatever your boss wants you to say to keep your job.
	If not, you're fired.
	Well, you're fired.
	They're doing everything they can to discredit those that are a threat to their grasp, their grip on America or their grip on the world, as a matter of fact, if you want to get that far.
	Correct.
	So they're using discredit to keep their hole.
	Well, I think it's going to come down to, of those three, the political industrial complex and the media have worked in harmony for so long that they seem like they're the same entity, but they're not.
	And at the end of this, after this election and maybe the next one or two afterwards, and I'm including the congressionals that'll happen two years from now before the presidential election next.
	But between those, whoever wins between that, the internet, political machine, or the media, is going to have such a huge slice of the pie when it comes to driving information, whether that information is truthful or not,
	because nothing coming out of the media and political industrial complex has been based in truth for so long when it comes to politics that whoever ends up winning that is going to have control over the way we look at things from a populist level for a long time to come.
	They're going to shape things for decades.
	That's frightening.
	Yes, I agree.
	That to me is the most important part of this.
	I mean, you can add all kinds of little data points to it, such as the Supreme Court, health care, education, defense, whether or not we should be interventionists around the world.
	All those things are data points within it.
	But what's going to affect our lives the most most from conversation and the way we perceive things going good or bad is who are those three wins?
	The people will always lose, unfortunately.
	That's true because we're not one of those.
	The internet is kept free.
	And now the internet is being handed over to the UN.
	Oh, that's the problem.
	As of the first problem, because the UN is nothing more than a mechanism for bad countries to have a vote.
	Do you want a bad country to have a vote?
	Do you want a country that commits genocide to have a vote?
	Do you want a country that kills millions and millions and millions of people to have a vote?
	This is the problem and the nature of the League of Nations before World War II, after World War I, the League of Nations.
	Why did we not vote?
	Remember, our president, Roe Wilson, wanted to be in the League of Nations.
	Our Congress said, you know what?
	It's not fair to give countries who are despots, dictators, the same vote we have.
	No, we're not going in.
	And then after World War II, there was Truman said, no, find a way to end war.
	Well, that's a great sentiment.
	But the fact is, you can't give a country that is a dictatorship the same vote you have.
	That's the nature of the UN.
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	That's where we're at now.
	Yeah, the problem with having the goal of ending war is the only way to end war is with war.
	You can end this war with the next war, but you can't somehow legislate countries from fighting.
	We've got someone else on the line.
	Feel free to stay on, Chefist.
	But we've got another caller here with a...
	Oh, don't hang up when I say that.
	You need to listen to the words coming out of my mouth.
	907, you are on the air.
	I was just going to hang out.
	If you guys were still talking politics, I wasn't going to add to that.
	I was just going to wait until you guys were done, and then I had a question.
	No, transition us away.
	Yes, this is Willie, right?
	Willie style.
	Take over.
	AK, Willie?
	Yep.
	Oh, my dog just barked.
	She's so excited.
	Oh.
	Hey, no, what I was going to question was, I read all the posts and stuff, and especially when baby posts on TalkieThread, I was just curious, how the hell does a freaking girl that went to goddang charm school type the stuff that comes out of her damn fingers?
	I only went the first month.
	That's all I could afford.
	Oh, okay.
	But you did go to charm school, though.
	For the sake of the Falky Thread, let's say yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	There was, I wasn't joking about wanting to go to charm school.
	There's a natural charm school in New York, but I think it was like $1,000, something like that, which is ridiculous.
	And there was a Russian lady that ran it.
	And when I think of charm, I don't always think of Russians.
	I mean, I like them as a people, but I don't think of them as being charming.
	I think it should be run by somebody British.
	So they basically would teach you manners and things that I didn't know.
	For example, if you go out on a business lunch, it's very rude to ask for a doggy bag.
	And that would have been the type of thing that I would have done.
	Like, oh, well, I only ate half of it, so let me take the rest of the stuff.
	Well, I'll screw that one.
	So it helps you.
	Yeah, it helps you to not make faux pas.
	So that's why I wanted to go.
	But basically, if I just get enough Emily Postbooks and read them, I think I'll be okay.
	To me, you are the definition of charm, so don't worry about it.
	just had somebody British to run the charm school that'd be uh shorty or uh yorkshire yeah I think Willie should be like the headmaster though Well, first thing I'd do is I'd have a freaking intricate exam.
	I'm pretty damn sure, money aside, they wouldn't let you in the damn thing.
	Ibby, I'm sorry, if they read any of your posts, maybe that's why she made up an alias then.
	Maybe that's why she needs to go something, something.
	How about this going forward?
	All the people who are considering giving any money to Falkey for any purpose?
	Instead, what you need to do is donate to the EB charm school fund, started tonight on the Gapcast.
	On october 14th 2016, by the end of this year, we're going to get you into a charm school.
	I don't care what it takes.
	Yeah actually, donate it to like your local dog pound and it'll get to you.
	Is that what you're saying you?
	No no no, you're part of the conspiracy of dog pounds.
	No, I used to volunteer at my local dog pound and the dogs that i've adopted have been shelter dogs.
	So if anybody has money they want to waste, instead of buying Falkey another pizza um, they could buy a bag of food for their local, you know, or cat food, or dog food, or whatever.
	That's a great idea, actually.
	Thank you for making me feel like a dick.
	Let me get this.
	Let me get this straight.
	You could only go to Charm school for a short time, but you hang out in a dog pound.
	Hey, it's a very charming dog pound.
	I'm guessing they probably wear like tuxedos and stuff like that and stuff like that.
	This would explain some things anyway.
	Enjoy listening to the show and I was hoping Shepherds would call back and get triggered.
	Man, I know I kind of thought we were working towards it there.
	I, I thought we were.
	We were gearing up there for a triggering event, but it didn't happen.
	So yeah, other than me, I guess.
	Was that you that said I was triggered in the chat?
	Aka Willie, what's that?
	It was it you in the chat room that said I was triggered, or was that walks at night?
	Uh, I don't remember.
	I'm not in front of the chat thing now, but uh, there's probably one of us for sure.
	Yeah, when you were calling out the, the shepherd's fistest dude.
	Yes, I like that.
	I like your speaking of it better, thank you yeah, I wish I wish that little coward Batch would call in.
	Man, it'd be fun to hear what he's got to say.
	You know, I mean what takes more guts, typing in a chat room, which i'm cool with, going in the chat room and typing and i'll.
	I'll have a letter war with you if that's what you want to have, but I would much rather have a, a vocal war if we're going to do it, and I don't know.
	I just, I see that and i'm fine with making jokes and go whatever direction you want to, and I assume that they're just in there for good fun, but let's, let's have fun on the air.
	You know that's even better.
	I he's probably.
	He's probably intimidated because you got all those freaking broads on the show with you and he probably hasn't talked to many women.
	That's what i'm guessing.
	You know you're?
	You're pretty smart there.
	I think you're probably right yeah okay well, i'll get off the phone.
	I sure enjoy the show, guys and gals.
	Thanks, take care.
	All right, thank you, all right.
	Charm School.
	do you do you graduate from charm school or do you just experience it like do you get a certificate at the end yeah i think they did give a certificate and that study It's studying etiquette, correct?
	I mean, it's etiquette.
	So basically, it's geared towards people in the business world.
	Absolutely.
	For people like me, I'm a social worker.
	So, you know, right.
	I mean, you can't carry those tools out with you into the business world.
	Exactly.
	Yes, exactly.
	Or just one, you know, the way I carry myself, if I meet somebody new, I don't want to come across as, you know, trashy.
	Well, not, I wouldn't say, I mean, I am funny on Belgab, but in real life, I'm not coarse like that.
	It's just you go to Belgab and let your hair down.
	I couldn't talk like that in the office or whatever.
	But I just feel like, yeah, it teaches you.
	Even I was reading, I was reading a book on Emily Post, and it was explaining how to get properly into a limousine and get out.
	And it's not like I write limos all the time, but you know what?
	I may go to an event, so I may take a limo, and you're supposed to go like butt first in and keep your legs together and then swing them into the limo.
	And getting out, it's the same thing.
	And there should be a gentleman there for you to hold his hand so that you can get up.
	Because if you, you know, have your legs closing and you swing them out so that now they're touching the ground, that's an awkward position to be to get up.
	So there's somebody there.
	Stuff like that.
	Stuff that, you know, I wouldn't want to be in a position where I'm the weakest link or where somebody takes me somewhere and they're embarrassed.
	Oh, dear, I hope she does the right thing or I hope she sits, you know, she doesn't sit with her legs apart or, you know, things that I think people used to know, but it matters anymore.
	If you do have any kind of business, how you communicate, gauge people, you use discernment.
	It's business, keeping personal separate from business.
	So yeah, it's just putting on that different hat.
	And there are those little elements that kind of, again, we were talking about presentation.
	I mean, we do kind of, you do kind of make a judgment when you go in and you go, you know, dealing with someone at work or, you know, you're doing business with a company on a subtle unconscious level, you are responding to how they present themselves, you know, and we're not even fully aware of it.
	But those little, yeah, I think it's fascinating.
	Yeah, I was just thinking about how hard it would be to get out of a limo and like high heels because I guess I would add that add a third thing to the list of stuff I'm scared of and the third would be high heels.
	I mean, I'm not saying I don't wear high heels.
	Or a what?
	I said, not if you're a seahorse.
	Yeah, true.
	Yeah.
	Well, if I could get a high heel that the heel of it was in the shape of a seahorse, then maybe I would allow someone to impregnate me.
	You know, they're out there.
	They're don't, you know, you think that's funny, but there are high heels.
	There are actually people that design artists that design all these unusual, you know, high-heeled shoes and couture that have everything from dragons to you know what.
	So they're out there.
	I'm sure somebody does a Google search, they'll find it for you.
	Yeah, true.
	What will that do to my Amazon search results, though, if I type in dragon high heels?
	I'll do it.
	Actually, let's see right now.
	What do I get for my results?
	It should be interesting.
	Hopefully you guys can hear my typing.
	I'm a serial say what I'm typing.
	So dragon high heels.
	Oh, wow.
	You were right.
	There's someone who has those.
	And you can get socks.
	I can get red lion dragon knee athletic high heel or high sock athletic socks.
	Gosh, if I could talk.
	And I see some of those really annoying.
	What do you guys think of the socks that have the individual toes are covered?
	It's like they're cute.
	Yeah, here we go.
	People really don't see them when you stick your foot in, right?
	Yeah, so here are high heel keyring chain purse charm rhinestone trendy shoes for $30 and they look like a dragon.
	They're white.
	Wow, that's a really high heel.
	I could not imagine.
	Oh, and the book, Real Mermaids Don't Need High Heels.
	That kind of goes right down what you were saying, Star.
	And then Emerald Dragon Scale High Waist Mermaid Leggings.
	And that has a picture of a lady in high heels too.
	Oh, here we go.
	I found them.
	There's the I'm going to put this in the Skype window.
	These are, oh, wait, that's just a keyring, though.
	But if those were real shoes, hopefully you will be able to see that.
	This reminds me, Sean, you and I were talking about something off the air, I think, yesterday about Clinton.
	No, not Clinton.
	It was Trump's wife, Melania.
	And she was wearing it.
	I just, I had to ask, ask you to talk about that more.
	Remind everyone what we're talking about because they haven't heard it.
	So remind me the name of it.
	I can't.
	It was like a.
	I don't know how many people were even aware of this unless, again, unless you were using social media and you were following certain journalists.
	But I caught an article that, how do you pronounce her name?
	Milani.
	Melania, yeah.
	I think Melania.
	There was this hoopla about her outfit for the debate, the last debate, that fuchsia pussy bow is what it says.
	Bow, okay.
	Now, and that's not new.
	I mean, that's actually the name of it's these blouses with this big loopy fabric of a bow.
	And of course, the fashion industry is jealous because no one's paying attention to their articles until somebody caught on.
	Oh, you know, did she wear the pussy bow in support of her husband?
	Or was it her secretly showing that she was offended and blah, blah, blah.
	So all of a sudden, glamour, cosmopolitan and variety and vogue were showing pictures of her and talking about this pussy bow and you know, after on the tail end of the audio with Trump and Billy Bush.
	And so I thought, so anyhow, I was out doing some Halloween costume shopping and I went into a department store and I walk in and I'm surrounded by pussy bows.
	Now, see, to me, I would have no idea.
	Like, I hear that in the what I mean is it's a certain fashion, it's a certain type of a blouse.
	And I just noticed all of a sudden those blouses that Milani wore.
	And after all this hoopla, I'm, you know, playing off the whole grabbing the pussy, blah, blah, blah, and the pussy bow.
	Now the department stores are realizing all of a sudden it's getting this attention.
	So the prime areas on the merchandising floor in department stores are these blouses.
	So when I got home, I thought, you know, I did a little Google searching.
	And prior to that debate, you know, it was considered the fall accessory for 2016.
	But it was just kind of humorous that something as simple and silly as a blouse all of a sudden was A great way for the fashion industry to latch on to this and create revenue.
	Yeah, so Gabrielle in the chat room totally supports you saying that that's what they're called as they're laughing over the name of it, of course.
	But the thing is, they were called the pussybow before it happened.
	In fact, these blouses were big in the 70s because I think I may have had one of those.
	But yeah, the term is not new because of Trump.
	It's just because of Trump.
	And oh my God.
	And she's wearing the pussybow.
	And then they were bringing in Kate Middleton.
	She's wearing a pussy bow, too.
	And is this a collective army of women?
	You know, with the pussy.
	It was, it was rather kind of, it was just kind of intriguing and funny.
	Yeah.
	Is it spelled B-O-W or B-E-A-U?
	B-O-W.
	If you Google pussy bow and then put fashion, you'll see the Gucci runway.
	That was a bad joke.
	I'm sorry.
	Star just did an image search and she's scarred for life.
	He's saying Laurent has like, you know, I mean, these high-end couture over the fall for the fall 2016, they're all over the runways.
	But it's just interesting how, too, the fashion industry, you know, because some of these people are saying like, no one's reading our articles.
	We're not getting any hits because of the election.
	And they're like, oh, this is great.
	We can totally work with this.
	Everything is just been in the media, isn't it?
	Yep.
	It sure is.
	And it's all designed to get sales.
	I don't know if you can see that link I just put in to the Skype chat.
	Oh my God, what are those?
	Godzilla?
	Is that Godzilla?
	It kind of looks like Godzilla, but look at the second link that I just have to ask, as a guy, man, I wish that link would have shown the picture in there.
	These are some girl with a dragon tattoo shoes or high heels.
	I don't want to see those.
	These are ridiculous.
	I just, how in the world?
	And please tell me that like high heels, these really just crazy, there's no real heel to it.
	It's just like a piece of metal that looks like you're not wearing those for guys, right?
	You're wearing those because you like them.
	Right.
	Okay, because I don't want to be held responsible for what happens to somebody wearing that shoe when it breaks.
	No, it's just the novelty of it.
	All right.
	Well, then I'll.
	There is actually a book.
	When I was living and working in New York, New York City, there is a book that I picked up in Soho that was the most extraordinary, unusual high heels.
	It was the art of the high heel.
	And these high heels were designed as though they were, there was gold rims like you were walking down a staircase with a red carpet.
	I mean, as an artist, they were absolutely fat, you know, fascinating to appreciate in a book or in a museum.
	But yeah, no one's going to, I mean, were you going to wear those?
	And maybe a lady gaga concert, but you know, it's purely just for yourself.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	My buddy Schaffester said that I can't stop fixating on heels, and that's the most truthful thing that he said so far.
	Maybe this, maybe I'm doing research.
	Maybe I'm transitioning or something.
	You don't know my story.
	The fashion cast.
	Yes, that's right.
	It was just a matter of time, and it was going to happen.
	I'm glad to know I'm the one who's sitting in the seat for this to happen because I think I've got nice legs and they'll go well for high heels.
	So I think it works out.
	Anything else ladies would like to talk about or about ready to wrap it up?
	Not really, no.
	I think we've covered it all.
	Yeah, well, I will be sending you guys some photos of heels and of my legs just to make sure we get a good match for my skin tone and whatever else is required.
	Are you going to shave first?
	Yeah, definitely.
	Wait, wait, you're implying I don't normally shave my legs?
	I wouldn't know.
	Well, I'll send you the photo so you can see.
	Okay.
	Anything anyone would like to promote while we call it a night?
	No, but I will be working on that caricature of you as the seahorse.
	Nice.
	Yeah, don't put high heels on it yet.
	Let me take some.
	Let me start taking my pills and get my voice lower or higher, I mean, first before we do that.
	And Chaffister is excited for us to wrap it up.
	And if it was a package of high heels, I'd say wrap it up and put a pussybow on it.
	Thanks, everybody, for listening.
	It's been a lot of fun.
	Shine, Eevee, Star.
	Great job.
	I really enjoyed this.
	I hope you all do this again soon.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Thank you to all my co-hosts.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	All right, everyone.
	Have a good night.
	We'll see you on the Gabcast again soon, I am sure.
	You've been listening to The Gab Cast, a podcast about BellGab.com.

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