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30 December, 2014

30 December, 2014 ---------- On this episode we talk presidential politics, bible joint rolling, and a bunch of other stuff. 2014: On this episode of The GabCast (a podcast about BellGab.com)... Jazmunda, Eddie Dean, MV, and (Redacted) talk about Art Bell, some Falkie stuff including the poll results, and more.

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The Gabcast, a podcast about bellgab.com.
Visit ufoship.com for live streaming and chat.
You know something for someone, imagine you have no idea what in the F Bellgab is, and you've never heard this show before, so you have no idea what this is, and you hear that liner at the beginning.
This is the Gabcast, a podcast about Belgab.com.
Go to ufoship.com to do this, that, and the other thing.
If that's not the most confusing lump of shit any human being has ever assembled, and I'm not talking about the liner, I'm talking about how I've set all this stuff up.
One website for this, one website for the other.
It's actually quite stupid.
You suck.
I feel it too.
You know, I've often kind of wondered, would it be a good thing to just sort of like integrate UFO ship and Belgab together in some way?
Like if you just went to Belgab.com, you would still see Belgab.
It's just that it would be like within UFO ship.
So everything is there.
Would that make sense?
How difficult would that be to do?
I don't think it would take too terribly much to accomplish.
I'll bet you Curtis could set that up in 10 minutes.
Yeah.
You think that would be something good to do?
Or do you think that things should just be left alone?
Let the sleeping—it's not broken.
Don't fix it, Michael.
Just be a good boy and eat your lentils and shut up.
Fix it.
Fix it.
That's Redacted, by the way.
Hi, Redacted.
Hello?
You know, I love Redacted.
She's a fun gal.
She doesn't mind talking about whatever it is you want to throw her direction.
And we've had her on a couple of times.
You guys have had her on a couple of times, and she's called into a couple of the things that Curtis and I have done together.
I never enjoyed one.
I never enjoyed one moment of interacting with her, but we thought, you know, we'll just go ahead and put her on the show.
We need another voice.
Okay.
This one's a woman.
All right.
If it's got to be, if we got to have a hole on the show.
Okay.
Radio hole mode.
Here we come.
So we brought Redacted in, and she's going to laugh at everything the men say the way your morning zoo radio hole does.
She's going to do what she's, by God, supposed to.
Oh, my God.
And then one time a girl showed up and everything.
I like you because you're like one of these girls who knows how to sort of just hang out with the boys.
You know what I mean?
Chill.
Yeah.
So this should be big fun.
And she's here because B-Dub isn't interested.
I guess that'd be the best way to put it.
It isn't interested in doing the show anymore.
And I'm sure the reasons for that are probably multifaceted.
I mean, he hasn't specifically told me directly what the reason was, but I'm just assuming it's because he didn't like the direction last week's show went down.
If it was either the questioning or the direction the conversation went, or if it was just the fact that Falke was here at all, I'm not specifically sure, but I'm sure it was probably either all of the above or varying combinations of all of the above.
And maybe he's just tired of doing the show on top of it.
Who knows?
I mean, it's not without inconvenience to sit here and do this every week or two.
Especially because we're not getting paid.
Well, I've got news.
Things are being arranged.
Have quarterly checks on the order of approximately 75 cents that are going to be mailed out to all of you beginning next week.
That's good because I thought this whole thing was designed to make us money.
Well, I think.
Nearly one full American dollar right there.
I feel like if you're going to be doing this sort of thing, you need to have some sort of motivation.
And so that's what I'm trying to provide here in some meaningful way.
I don't know.
And there's a call coming in, but I don't really want to take it yet.
So if you're listening, you probably are.
I see you've tried to call a couple of times there.
The first couple of times we hadn't even started the show yet.
So I'm going to take the call.
Just give us a little while, and we'll just sort of ease our way into that.
How's that sound out there?
And if you'd like to call in tonight, I'll go ahead and advance and give you the numbers.
They are 623-242-CAST.
That is 623-242-2278.
It's currently 78 degrees in downtown Cape Girardeau with overcast skies.
And, oh, it's about 7 o'clock p.m., give or take.
You know, just drive your cars and go home.
Isn't there a saying thing where you're not supposed to start with the weather?
Well, this is AM Small Town News Radio, buddy.
We do things a different way here.
You better just sit back and let the experts guide you home on this afternoon drive.
Yeah, so I guess B-Dub doesn't want to do the show anymore, and that sucks.
And I don't mean to offend anybody here, but B-Dub was secretly my favorite Gabcast host.
I'm just going to go ahead and spill the water.
I got to tell you, he was my secret favorite as well.
I really enjoyed doing the show with B-Dub, and he's my favorite first.
God damn you.
Well, I hated the guy, so I did too.
I was just being polite.
I was waiting for someone else to join me so I could feel confident and really telling everyone how I feel.
But fuck that guy.
But does this make Redacted the cousin Oliver of the Gabcast?
Cousin Oliver is.
Is that a Brady Bunch reference?
I think he's...
Oh, because now I...
I was thinking cousin it.
I'm sorry.
Continue on.
So you wear circular glasses, Redacted?
Sometimes.
Blonde hair?
No, but lots of dark brown hair.
Yeah, so, yeah, apparently this person didn't hear me.
We're going to take a call a little bit later.
If you would just give it, you know, I will specifically say, okay, we're ready to take calls anytime somebody wants to call.
And when you hear that, that's the cue, buddy.
You go ahead and pick that phone up when you hear that.
But until then, let's just all sit back and play some Uno for a minute.
Anyway, so the lines will not be receiving you.
Stop it.
Only rotary phone calls from Open Fields, as Phil Hendry used to say, doing his art bell impersonations.
That was probably the funniest, most memorable line of all of those Phil Hendry art bell impersonations.
Only rotary phones from Openfields tonight.
No, and I'm not suggesting that was a proper Art Bell impression.
I can't even, I don't have anything close to the voice to pull that off.
The voice of God.
So, yeah, I guess B-Dub doesn't want to do the show any longer.
And I'm sure his reasons are multifaceted, as I said.
But I still like him.
I wouldn't say I love him.
I mean, if he winds up homeless, I'm probably not going to let him sleep on my couch.
I want to say that.
He's such a liar.
I don't know.
I just, I mean, that's what you internet people need to understand.
Like you, but I don't expect you to show up at my funeral.
You know, I don't expect a kidney from any of you.
And so, um, yeah, well, I never show up to funerals unless I'm in the will.
So, unless you put me in the will, then I'm not there.
What were you going to say, Jasmine?
Jasmine, you're so timid.
If you just barely walk over him, he goes, Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
I'll step.
Oh, you guys got a head.
Do you know why that is?
Because the whole entire time that we were doing the gab cast, I was always yelling at everybody behind the scenes not to step on everybody's lines, you know?
So everybody's lines.
I brought 70 lines to the show tonight, and everybody's stepping on my brilliance.
Yeah.
Well, just jump in there any old time, you guys.
Don't sweat it.
Who cares?
What we really need to focus on is the fact that none of this shit ultimately matters.
I mean, really.
I think that's what we've kind of lost a little bit of focus on, lost sight of to a degree.
I mean, really, none of this shit matters.
That's the beauty of this whole thing is that none of it matters.
That's why it shouldn't stress anybody out.
That's why, you know, I don't feel like you should care what happened on last week's show.
I don't feel like I just don't feel, I mean, it's a meaningless podcast.
It's a bullshit.
This is a bullshit podcast.
I'm just going to put that out there.
This is of this podcast is of very limited value.
I mean, if you're not an active user of the forum, this specific website, bellgab.com, this podcast probably doesn't do a lot for you.
I mean, I'm keenly aware of that fact.
Really doesn't mean a lot to just the average person that perhaps might tune in one night and listens to us talk about, you know, what's going on at Belgab.
They would have no idea what the fuck is happening.
No.
And they wouldn't know any of the personalities.
They wouldn't know anything.
So I'm aware of that fact.
I think everybody really is.
And just the fact that none of this matters.
And so when Falke was on the show last time, two weeks ago, tonight, no one set out prior to the show to say, this is the line of questioning we're going to focus on.
This is the approach we're going to take to this country.
No one did anything of the sort.
I didn't intentionally go down any specific path.
It's just Falke is just one of these guys that as you're talking to him, the conversation inevitably seems to funnel into a conversation about him.
And that's just, I mean, that's his whole gimmick in terms of his internet presence anyway.
And so I really don't feel like anything that happened on the show two weeks ago differed really in any way from anything that anyone has ever said on the website about him or to him or anything that he said about himself for that matter.
I mean, he releases more information freely about himself.
Nobody would know about his mom's credit card.
Nobody would even know his girlfriend's name, let alone what she looks like or what her apartment looks like, or the fact that he even drives a Prius or what his phone number is for the 12,000 Belgab users that are calling him, calling him on his home phone number.
Internet people.
Can you imagine any circumstance in which you're going to have random internet people calling you on your home phone number?
No.
No.
Nobody can even give out.
I don't even give out my real name, for Christ's sakes.
So for everyone to get all, oh, teary-eyed and guilt-ridden about what happened on the last show, I have one interest in the course of sitting here, and that is to be at least mildly entertaining, to deliver an entertaining show.
And if during the course of rendering that show, it seems like it's going to be more interesting to follow one line of questioning than another, then that's what I'm going to do.
I mean, why does this, why do these moral qualms just suddenly have to be injected into things?
People forget they're using a website that starting in April of 2008 could only be accessed by typing georgeenoriesucks.com into the address bar in the browser.
This is a website that at its foundation was designed explicitly for the purpose of denigrating a single human being that none of us have ever met and that none of us ever will meet who doesn't know us that we don't know.
And suddenly everyone's moral alarms are going to start sounding.
I don't really understand that.
So that was a natural progression of questioning then last Gabcast.
Yes.
Next subject.
Wow.
Well, I mean, what was it that leads you to think possibly otherwise would be the case?
Just wanted to clarify.
That's all.
Well, see, I sense a little doubt in your voice there.
I sense that perhaps you disbelieve what the MV says.
No, no, I believe it.
I just am shocked.
Shocked at what?
That, oh, gosh, I'm going to get in so much trouble right here.
That someone actually would just volunteer so much personal information and then be surprised when, you know, he gets trolled on.
That's all.
That that actually just happened naturally.
It wasn't forced.
It just, he just does that.
How could it be forced?
It's just one guy.
He wasn't holding a gun to.
No, I'm in southeast fucking Missouri on the internet.
I am not in any way going to impact his life whatsoever if he just says, eh, fuck you, buddy.
I'm not talking about that.
That's all he had to say.
But he didn't say that.
And if he doesn't sit there talking to us about that stuff, he's going to wind up talking about it himself in some other capacity.
I don't give it, so I don't give a shit.
I just want to deliver what I hope to be an entertaining show.
And I think the show two weeks ago was entertaining.
Beyond that, I don't really give a shit.
What do you guys think?
I think what the difference is, is when you hear somebody's voice when you're talking to them on the phone or on a radio show, it's much more difficult to say rude or unkind things about them.
I mean, conversely, you go on the internet and you can type whatever the fuck you want about anybody.
And, you know, you don't hear instant feedback.
You might get into a little spat.
But, I mean, it's just different when you're talking to somebody and when you're typing to somebody.
You can be much more cruel and mean, you know, through the typing stuff out.
And that's true, Eddie.
You are so much meaner on Belgab than you are on this show.
Like, I read your posts.
Oh, yeah.
Well, see, you just read them that way.
What was the, God, there was something you recently typed and everyone came in afterward saying, ooh, Eddie Dean whipping out the big guns.
I forget what it was.
Who did he unload on?
That fucking guy, Kandario, or whatever the hell his name is.
That dude, I don't know.
He just bugs the piss out of me.
He's so bad.
I know.
I know.
I think I said you were PM Eddie saying that turned me on.
I was never paying that much because he's not the man.
Well, that wasn't the first time.
I got to tell you that.
When you communicate that to him via PM as opposed to just wink, wink, nudge, nudge in a public forum, that's, you know, that's concerning.
We should talk.
So, I mean, what do you guys think?
I mean, well, you know, to address some of what you just said, Eddie, I don't think anyone was mean to Falki two weeks ago.
As a matter of fact, I liked him probably 200% more after that show than I did before the show, even though I didn't really dislike him before the show.
And additionally, I don't think anyone listening to that show would come away viewing him as an unsympathetic character or someone that they dislike necessarily.
I think he came away as a very likable person and someone that anybody would enjoy sitting down, having a beer with, having a chat with.
You know, why the whole thing was happening when you were asking him and you were, you know, delving into his sexual life, I guess you were from while it was happening, I was kind of going, what the fuck is he asking him that for?
You know, and B-Dub was kind of going into that too.
But I didn't know where you were coming from.
Why, I mean, I certainly didn't want to know any of that stuff about Falky, you know, his sexual exploits or if his penis still works.
I mean, I didn't know where you were going with that.
I didn't see that.
That's just it.
I didn't ask him if his penis still works.
He said.
He volunteered it.
See, everything that he said that was of a shocking, not, I won't say everything, but many of the things that he said that were of a shocking nature were volunteered by him, and then questions were just sort of tangentially sprouted from that.
But I mean, you were egging him on in a certain aspect.
I think we were going to be able to do that.
you were trying to do was trying to, yeah.
That's all I was doing.
I guess you're trying to see how far he would go.
Of course.
And I didn't realize that until after the show.
And I'm like, wow, that's because, like I said, during the show, I didn't know what the hell was going on.
At the end, I didn't know how to think.
I didn't know how to take it.
I didn't know what to think.
I didn't know if I was pissed or if I was laughing.
I don't know.
I didn't either.
I'm sitting here going, okay, what's really going on?
And it was nothing.
Nothing was really going on.
I feel, I mean, hearing what you guys are saying, I feel even more confident about what happened on that show.
Jasmunda, go ahead.
Yeah, I was just, every time you asked him a question, I was sort of cringing and I was thinking, no, he won't answer that.
And he kept answering it.
And I've told him privately, you know, stop giving ammunition to everyone else who's going to throw it right back at you.
But I don't know.
He just keeps doing it.
Keeps doing it and doing it.
And I question his recall of events because during the week, he was posting that I was the one who was asking him all the sexual questions.
And I just want to set the record straight that it wasn't me.
Listen, I think Falki obviously misinterprets things that happen in his life.
I mean, I think that recall is a good way to say it because, I mean, some of the things that he says and some of the things that he asserts is not close to reality from my perspective and how I've seen it, you know?
So, yeah, I'm not surprised that he thought that Jasmunda was being the one, you know, that was asking the inappropriate question.
Jasmunda is the only fucking person on this show with an Australian accent.
How do you screw that up?
How do you not know you're talking to, uh, talking to him?
I was thinking a lot of the same.
I was thinking, okay, there's no way he's going to answer this question.
Okay, there's no way.
And he did.
And then there's no way he's going to answer that.
There's just no way.
And he did.
Okay, here we go.
Well, I think the show that was delivered two weeks ago, I think that was the show everybody wanted to hear.
And I know there are people who will just disagree with that, but there are still people talking about that show.
So as far as I'm concerned, job well done.
Pat myself on the back and I think I'll go make a bologna sandwich.
I'm starting to feel it.
With or without mayonnaise.
Well, I use Mayo Start or mustard ANAs.
You know, I'm too lazy to mix the two or put, you know, I just want one fell swoop.
I've got everything on the sandwich I need.
So I recommend Hellman's Mayo Start.
Hellman's Mayo Start.
Yeah, so if you want to be on the show, the number is 623-242-CAST.
We're ready to take calls, by the way, if anybody would like to call the show.
That's 623-242-CAST.
We'll be happy to talk to you.
And we'd also be happy to hear your opinions about the show two weeks ago, if you have an opinion.
But I don't know.
I just think bottom line, Falkey did not come across as someone that you liked less as a result of hearing him on the show two weeks ago.
At least that wasn't how I felt after hearing him.
He's obviously not a normal person.
And, you know, I do, but that's not to say he's a retarded buffoon who can't make his own decisions.
No, I don't think he's unintelligent.
No, he's a very smart man.
I can tell.
I mean, it's just, it's obvious he's a very intelligent person.
He's just, his brain is not wired like that of most people, which is why I asked him, hey, Falkey, this is, I'm not just poking at you here.
I'm legitimately asking, have you ever been diagnosed as having autism or something along those lines or Asperger's or something?
Or I think it's actually Asperger syndrome.
But it's like my dad.
He's going to get old-timer's disease.
The guy's going to forget all his shit because he's got old-timer's disease.
Anyway, I just don't feel like he came away as a less sympathetic figure as a result of the show.
And by the way, we will reveal during the broadcast tonight the results of the poll.
I can't wait.
Well, I think you're going to find the results rather interesting, rather revealing.
Of course, they'll be revealing because they're going to be revealed.
How does it work?
What happens when you reveal?
Well, I don't want to really address that until we have the results.
The earth cracks open and we all fall in.
Results being tabulated as we speak.
And then the president addresses the nation.
Tonight, some folks had a thread.
They took it down.
I don't know.
These folks, they're doing what they want to do.
That's the first time I've ever even attempted an Obama impression.
Thank you.
Please don't do that.
I thought you sounded like George Bush.
Really?
Well, that's interesting.
Well, their policies mirror one another so closely.
I could see that somebody might make that mistake.
I'm kind of getting tired of this whole thing.
Is Belgab doomed?
Is Belgab now Falky Gab?
And maybe you guys can help me wrap my mind around why people are so hurt about this.
One thread.
One thread on the forum is getting a disproportionate amount of attention.
So that means the forum is fucked, apparently.
Comments?
That's the same thing that happened when you banned Falky.
You know, there was a thread that popped up.
Is Belgab now doomed?
And now that Falky's back and the thread is seeing a lot of action.
That there's a new thread saying, what does it say?
Is Bellgab turning into Falky Gab?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
You go ahead.
I talk too much.
I have the same question is why does one thread, you know, sour the entire website?
But I can understand because, I mean, you go to a website and you have perhaps a personal attachment to it.
You know, everybody's motivations are different when they post on Bellgab.
And if there's a thread that, you know, sees a lot of activity and everybody is posting in, you know, it's difficult to ignore it.
So I can understand the people saying that the entire website is shit just because of that one thread.
But I don't think it is.
I think the amount of activity is going to drop after a certain time.
I mean, it's kind of new still, I mean, even though it's been going on for a month or so.
But I think it'll drop down if the thread is still there after tonight's announcement.
That is.
You know that.
Well, I must say, I wake up in the morning and I look at the most recent threads, and the whole thing at the moment is the general musings of falky threads.
So I can see how people are saying it's taken over because it has, but does it mean that's a user interface issue?
That's where I have my resistance to this notion.
That is entirely a user interface issue because if I scroll up to the menu and I click, a lot of people, they find out what's new on the forum by looking at this god-awful recent posts list on the main page of the website.
And that's a horrible way to find out what's happening on the forum because what you need to do.
Wow.
Yeah, we're going to just a moment.
We know you're there.
I'm sorry.
Just give me a moment here.
What you need to do is in the menu on the forum, click on unread topics and you'll see every topic that has received a new post since you last viewed that thread.
Every one of those threads is going to be listed there.
And if you actually click where it says new next to each of those threads, it'll dump you on the exact post in that thread that you have not yet read.
I hope I explained that well.
But I mean, if you were following along on the website as I explained that, it'll make total sense.
I mean, and so if you click on unread topics in the main menu in order to see what hasn't been read by you, I only see one entry.
I can only see one entry for the Falkey thread.
That's it.
It's one entry in a list of shit.
I have eight pages of unread topics here.
I probably actually read 5% of what gets posted on this forum.
There's no way anybody could read all of that shit.
There's no fucking way.
So I just, this is how I navigate.
And if everyone would just use this mechanism for determining what it is you need to read, click unread topics.
There you are.
Click the little new icon next to each one.
It dumps you right on the exact post where you need to start.
If everybody does that, then this whole what's taking over the forum or what's not taking over the forum becomes a non-issue.
But having said that, Michael, all the content at the moment is in that thread.
Most of the other threads don't have a lot of new content each day.
So is the theory then that if the Falke thread go or is the assertion that if the Falke thread goes away, suddenly there becomes a bunch of interesting content in all these other places?
No, there'd probably be no posting on the forum at all.
I don't know.
I don't know what the solution is.
I think people are drawn to that thread like a moth to a light.
Yeah.
You know, because of the car wreck, it's a bloody car wreck, and they have to see.
Yeah.
Caller, that's exactly what it is.
Caller, I'm sorry we kept you so long there.
Where are you calling from?
Who is this, if you care to say?
Yeah, it's Bateman.
I was going to say it was White Crow, but I went with Mary Ann Reinsmith.
I thought you were Maureen for a moment.
You know, I loved Maureen to death ever since I heard her that time she called in to the Gabcast.
I swear to God when I first heard that, that it was Bateman doing his prank call.
I swear to God.
I couldn't believe that was really—and then when I realized that really is how she speaks and sounds, I was just charmed by her.
I felt like I was listening to a combination of Julia Child and some other elegant, no, take no prisoners, no bullshit British woman or something.
I don't know.
Anyway, go ahead.
She was great.
She called in and I had my Skype window up and she had video, so I was actually able to watch her while she was on the show.
What does she look like?
Does she look like she cooks really great food?
That's how I envision her.
Yeah, she looked like kind of a thinner Julia Childs, I guess.
Wow.
I have my finger on the pulse of so much shit.
You people have no idea.
Bateman, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
All right.
I think we need to address the latest Bellgap scandal.
And Michael, maybe you can address this because you've ignored it on the board.
Why are your private messages turned off?
Good question.
Well, first of all, everybody has the ability to do this.
If you don't want to receive private messages, you can go to the market.
You are the administrator, Michael.
That's a great reason not to receive private messages, contrary to instinct.
The speculation is that you had them shut off because of the imminent release of the poll results.
No, no.
Nope.
Who's saying that anyway?
Who thinks that much?
What?
Somebody on the forum.
Oh, somebody on the form.
Fuck you.
You're like one of these reporters that say, people are saying that your mother is a cunt who blows babooncock on Friday nights in an alley behind an alcohol.
Fuck if I could speak.
Behind a liquor store.
What do you say about that?
You know, it's people are saying.
I don't know.
No, that's total bullshit.
And anyone who said that, you just tell them to call me up.
I'll have a few words with them.
Well, I would find the link and send it to you, but I can't PM it to you.
Well, you can always email me, but that also is discouraged.
Well, real quick, I would also like to say that I never got a thank you for improving the gab cast a couple weeks ago when I brought up the mayonnaise, which opened the can of worms.
I was like the program director who came in and said, Michael, the direction you're taking this is shit, and here's how I'm going to improve it.
With mayo.
Thank you for your, I'm glad you were there.
Fuck you, George Norrie.
I hate him.
Go ahead, Jasmunda.
Have you tried the mayonnaise maneuver yet?
There's a maneuver.
Someone elaborate.
I don't know where you just went with that.
There's a maneuver involving Mayo.
Go.
What?
Just using it the way that Folkie was supposedly using it.
Oh.
So, Jasmunda, you're going to make me say it for the audience's purposes.
You're hosting a talk show.
You do realize that, right?
You can just go ahead and say what it is.
There's no need for illusions.
I mean, do you want to give out the info about the do you want to give out the info about the maneuver?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
This has been on your do list for two weeks, and you haven't gotten to this yet.
And so you have nothing to report, but you're bringing it up.
Well, I'm allergic to mayonnaise, so I'm trying to find an alternative.
Oh, we're trying to find a way to volunteer.
I think Nutella wouldn't really lend much to the lubrication of anything.
That's kind of sticking.
That's a lot of palm oil in there.
Yeah, but it's got a lot of sugar.
It seems like there would be more friction than lubrication.
I think so.
But it would be delicious.
There is that.
I've always believed just go straight.
Nothing tastes better.
Well, Bateman, thank you very much for calling in.
And I will concede, but for your phone call two weeks ago, everything would have just fallen apart and been a complete pile of shit.
So thank you.
Well, I agree.
And real quick, I want to cut the AdSense dollars that have come in since then.
Okay, well, again, I can cut another 75-cent quarterly check on its way.
How many more of these assholes do I have to do this for?
That's not coming out of my end, is it?
No, I'm feeling juicy.
It's New Year's Eve almost, and I'm going to go ahead and take that out of my cut.
I won't get paid for this quarter.
How about that?
Jeez.
All right, thanks, guys.
We'll see you later.
Thank you, sir.
Leonardo was actually 12 hours away where I am.
So that was Bateman who called three times prior to the show and then four times before his actual call once the show started.
Way to go.
He's a WABC radio pro, ladies and gents.
He knows how to position the call.
I thought for sure that was Falki.
I can't believe that was Bateman.
Yeah, I thought that would have been Falky, too.
I'm a little disappointed, I have to say.
I'm taken aback.
He doesn't like us anymore.
Yeah.
So, no, I don't think Belgab is doomed.
And by the way, the first time that question was asked on the forum was after Art quit Dark Matter.
The question was posed, is Belgab not doomed?
And that was a more legit moment in history to ask that question than this.
I mean, think about it this way.
I mean, the forum was around from April 2008 until September of 2013, pretty much without Art Bell that whole time.
And then he's only there for six weeks out of the forum's entire history for all those years.
And people are like, holy shit, is this place done?
I think this place is toast.
I can't handle this.
This place cannot withstand.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
This place cannot withstand what we've just befallen or just what just befell us.
I'm sorry.
You guys have got to excuse me.
Here's what happened to me.
Last night, I thought, oh, yeah, it's about 9 o'clock.
You know, it would really be awesome to just go ahead and go to bed.
And so I did.
And then, like a dumbass, of course, I wake up at about 2.30 in the morning and I can't go back to sleep.
So I've been awake since I woke up at 2.30 in the morning, just like a dumbass.
I mean, I have that feeling like I'm on drugs of some kind.
Like, I'm just strung out and stupid.
I have no idea how to string a sentence together.
Hi, you're on the air.
Hello.
Yeah, this is me.
I'm sorry.
I'm not aware of who this is.
Falky.
I'm going to know my voice.
Well, I was going to guess little Chris, and you know, not little Chris.
So, how are you, Falkey?
Still trying to get warm.
It's cold out there.
Well, what's what do you say?
It sounds like you live in a mud hut or something because you're always talking about how cold it is.
And Jesus shit.
We've had insulation for how many we've had, I would say for the better part of a century, insulation has been used.
Place is ancient.
It was built in the 50s.
The front door is hollow.
They put weather stripping on here.
When I moved in there in 2006, it fell off.
That was a government program that didn't work.
And the wind comes freezing.
No, I don't know who was president in 2006.
I don't remember.
It was sick then.
And it doesn't really matter.
But the winds come down from the bay, which is eight blocks away.
And at night, it's freezing in this apartment.
I'm in the bedroom right now.
It's eight degrees warmer here because the heater works near that does in the living room.
And when I moved in here, I'd have it turned off because it was putting out heat in the summer and I was dying out there.
I think the bottom line was 90 degrees.
What?
That was George.
This is not true.
That was actually a pretty good use of it right there.
George Hughes.
Falky, listen, your apartment sounds like a piece of shit.
Well, it's a very nice apartment, but it's just the living room's freezing.
Why?
I mean, I don't get it.
You need to turn the box fans off in winter.
The box fans are off just winter.
I'm sitting in front of one right now as we speak.
I don't know.
I think it's a good thing all year round, really.
Don't you need air circulation all year round?
No, because I freeze in here.
This place has crap.
If I touch the, I can't, I'm not going to get up and touch the outside wall.
The walls of the outside above my Mac and the 17-inch monitor, the walls of this place are ice cold in the wintertime.
In the summertime, they're red hot.
This place faces the sun in three directions.
They've cut down all the trees because they're damaging the sidewalks, and I'm boiling in here.
So I roast in the winter, summer, and I freeze in the wintertime.
I mean, is there any possibility of you moving at any point in the near future?
If I get money to move, I'd move out of here in a heartbeat.
Well, yeah, I'd do all kinds of things if I were rich, too.
But I'm talking about in reality, is there anything?
Not with finances the way they are, and we have to tell personal information again.
We have to pay our car registration in February.
It's always summer.
Okay, I got to cut in.
I got to cut in.
I live in California, too, and it is freezing outside.
I have the heater cranked up to about 80 degrees.
I'm dressed warm, and it's still cold.
It's just cold, dude.
It's just cold.
What is the temperature?
I don't know.
I think it's like 40-something.
It's cold.
That is not cold.
I walked out in the balcony last night about 3 in the morning to throw out some garbage, and it was 37 on the balcony.
Well, it's generally been my experience in radio that the audience gives two shits about weather talk.
So I guess we're just going to be able to do it.
No, I'm just saying it's not very, very cold here.
We have an ice warning and a freeze warning here, and a high wind.
It's 60 mile-an-hour winds in the bay right now.
Well, it gets cold in the wintertime, though.
Yeah, I know.
That's all I'm saying.
You're both full of shit.
I don't agree with anything either of you have said.
Sorry, sorry.
Oh, he's stirring up.
You're both wrong.
Wait a second.
I missed the beginning of the call, but didn't Falki pledge that he was not going to call tonight because he was disgusted with a Gabcast?
No, I didn't say that.
What?
I read that somewhere.
Are you kidding me?
I'm looking at that.
You posted that you were.
I'm not going to call the Gabcast.
I have a treated me like a dog.
I have a printout of the post.
Hold on.
I said things earlier that how I felt.
Now, you know, I didn't like the sex questions.
I didn't think they were necessary.
And I also posted earlier that I was like a deer in headlights.
I could have even said, no, I'm not going to comment on that.
And I wasn't shocked that anybody would ask me that stuff.
So I did it.
I made a huge mistake.
I said I chose poorly.
But, Falki, a lot of that stuff you volunteered yourself, as we pointed out earlier in this actual broadcast.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Why would you, you know, forget about let's be objective and not look at me as me.
Okay.
My personal friends over the last 62 years, my family, people I've known out.
Most of my friends have died.
They're all older than me, would never come up with that question on a radio show to ask me.
It wouldn't be a good idea.
Falki, I am not a close personal friend.
I've never met you.
I don't know you from a hill.
I don't know if you're a person would ask me that question, but you did.
Yeah, because I don't know you.
I get that you're not going to be situation reversed.
If you came on the guest host on my podcast, I wouldn't ask you sex question.
Now, I'd be a little disappointed.
John might, because he thinks that stuff is funny.
Well, a lot of people think things are funny that other people don't think are funny.
I think the show, too.
Okay, you go ahead and talk.
The standards of people, what's humor now, is not what's humor when I grew up.
And I'm not trying to be an old fogey when I say that, but things are very strange out there for me.
You're a Bob Hope fan?
I like the movies, but Bob Hope, Bob Hope was doing bad jokes for too long as he got older.
Jerry Lewis is very funny.
But, you know, that's years ago.
But I look at some of the comedians now and I don't get it.
Every word is F and they're constantly using toilet humor.
You don't have to be dirty to be funny.
Fuck Justin Bieber.
Yeah, but horse porn is hilarious.
Well, I'm just saying, Falki, you made the point that none of your friends, your lifelong friends of 40 years, would ask you those questions.
Friends I've known are the people I've known other than personal friends.
Nobody would ask that because they would consider it offensive.
Well, I think it all just depends on context, number one.
And number two, you can't really apply that.
I don't know you.
You don't know.
It doesn't matter.
It wouldn't occur to the average person out there to ask that either.
I don't think.
Maybe I'm wrong.
That's hard to quantify.
I mean, if someone takes in the full breadth and scope of everything that you've said about yourself on the forum and everything that's been said to you on the forum, and all of that's taken into account, I mean, you know, things just sort of progressed in the direction they progressed two weeks ago.
And as I mentioned, oh, you just go ahead and talk.
I wasn't making that a point.
Sorry, no, I realize that.
When I started closing the internet.
You really, Falkey, Falki, I'm regressing.
Falky, I'm going to hang.
I'm addressing something specifically to redact it.
I'd like to.
Falki, I'm going to hang up on you if you don't allow a conversation to take place here.
All right, I'm sorry.
I have not finished one thought with you in the course of this.
I'm not frustrated.
Go ahead.
Well, why be frustrated?
None of this shit matters.
Do you think it matters what any of these motherfuckers on Belgab think about you?
Do you think any of them need to see it?
Do you think any of them need to see a new video of your girlfriend?
Which you're willingly going to put out there again?
Did you not see the results of round one?
And here you are playing poor mouth, complaining about how scorned or how ridiculed and shamed you feel.
Well, stop stepping in horse shit and maybe your foot will stop having horse shit on it.
I don't know what else to say, man.
Well, she wanted to do that.
I didn't promise you.
Well, she obviously doesn't have very good judgment, and you apparently don't either if you're not able to protect her from herself, apparently.
What?
Okay, I'm done.
I was asked to call her to promote the podcast we have, and there's no point.
You were asked.
Have a nice evening.
Who did that?
God.
You know what?
I have a clip for Falki here.
But you're too thick, thin-skinned.
It's a joke.
Get over it.
From his own words.
You just, you know, talking to somebody who just doesn't shut up long enough for you to transform a thought from a thought to some sort of a verbal articulation.
I mean, that is just the height of frustration.
I really hope that.
Pawl in the chat room says Falky is the victim.
He plays that part well, doesn't he?
He really does.
But, you know, I'm not, I'm, I'm done feeling that in any way whatsoever.
I mean, you go recording another video of your girlfriend and putting it on YouTube and posting it on Bellgab.
After everything that happened on round one, you're going to do that again?
You obviously don't learn from your experiences.
That much is very clear.
And so I guess my philosophy is that regardless of what I ask you or don't ask you on this show, regardless of what direction the conversation does or doesn't take, you're going to go on the internet and make an ass of yourself anyway.
So if it means that, hey, I have an opportunity to deliver what I think is going to be an entertaining episode of this podcast, then I'm going to let the conversation go in whatever direction I think makes that more likely to happen.
And I think listening to you talk about, yes, how dirty the garbage is in your girlfriend's apartment is more entertaining than listening to you talk about Richard C. Hoagland.
Yes.
Comments?
That's the whole thing, is he does not learn.
He does not adjust to the things that, I mean, it's insanity.
He does the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.
But the same thing happens over and over and over again.
I just don't, for the life of me, don't understand why he keeps doing what he's doing.
I mean, posting personal information and just keep digging himself deeper and deeper and deeper into the quicksand.
Well, I haven't listened to his new podcast that he did with Area 51 Drone, but from what I've read online, it seems like Area 51 Drone was asking him inappropriate questions, and it seemed like Falkie lost his shit about it and ended the podcast.
After what, two and a half hours?
Well, yeah, but then you have to go back in the ring with him.
I don't understand it.
Does he not learn from his mistakes?
I'm sure in episode two, they're going to do Area 51 Drone is going to do the same thing because he doesn't want to talk about Falki's kitties all podcasts.
He wants to push his buttons, you know?
Fuck Area 51 Drone.
He's naming the podcast.
What is it?
The litter box?
The litter box.
A podcast about, what was it, about something, something, and cats.
I forget what that.
Life.
Life, something, and cats.
Yeah.
He knows what he's doing, that asshole.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, he's just going to keep doing episode after episode with Falki with the same thing happening.
it is performance art it's uh pushing the buttons and watching the fireworks go off right yeah I have a level of respect for his artistry that I can't really put into words, okay?
It's just fucking beautiful.
Here, let's go ahead and take a phone call.
How about that?
Hi, you're on the air.
Sure.
Howdy, y'all.
This is the general.
Hey, what's up, brother?
I have so much respect for you and admiration for you just as a human being that I'm almost embarrassed that you're listening to this show.
But go ahead.
Well, that's all I called for.
Thank you.
Okay, all right.
It's been real.
Show's over.
Cowboy.
I have no idea why you'd say that, but I appreciate it.
Yeah, you're a good guy.
You're a good human being, a good father.
At least based on the Facebook pictures, I think you are.
I don't know.
It's all just projection.
You know, your wife and son, they could actually be just wax figures, and you've posed them appropriately.
I'm actually in prison.
I'm actually in prison.
That's why I have so much time to use the forum and do this podcast that I do.
You weren't supposed to say that.
He's making videos where he slowly pets their hair.
It's really entertaining.
I recommend subscribing.
Anyway, what's up, man?
Well, here's the deal.
And you're right about how people view the forum.
When you were talking about when people just view the forum and look at the bottom of the main page to see what's new on the forum, and it's just falky, falky, falky, falky.
Maybe that part needs to change because I think most people who use the forum use the forum like that.
And I'm, you know, I include myself in that as well.
That's how I use the forum.
So I think that it would help to change that function of the website.
I think you're totally right.
And you know why I haven't done it?
It's because the last time I did, you complained.
You complained.
I complained.
Yes.
Yes, I did.
I did too.
Because I love that feature.
I use what's, you know, the bottom of the first page.
I use that all the time.
But you know, deep in your heart, it's probably the worst way to browse the forum, right?
I do, and I agree with you.
And it would force me to change the way I use the forum.
And it would also, I think, let threads like the Falky thread die the slow death that they should die.
It really does allow a particular thread to just dominate the forum if you see that in the recent posts list.
I can see how people have that perception.
And I would like to know what percentage of the forum is using it the way I do by clicking unread topics up in the menu.
I suspect it's a very small minority.
Probably you and Camazot's Automat.
I think Onan said he uses it that way as well.
No, I don't know.
And maybe it doesn't need to change because we'll soon find out that you're going to dump the whole Falky thread.
I don't know.
And I got, look, I got nothing against Falki, right?
It's just that the only reason I joined this website, you know, however long it five years ago, was I was interested in Art Bell.
He seemed to be slowly disappearing from coast to coast.
I wanted to talk to like-minded people about what was going on with Art Bell and complain about George Norrie, you know.
And all of a sudden, it's like, you know, fast forward five years later, Art's nowhere to be found.
He had a six-week show, and every time I log into this website, it's something about some guy in San Francisco that I don't care about.
Why do you have to be so critical, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
This is MV's Live.
You're talking about.
This is how I pay my power bill.
You know what?
Falky's a nice guy.
And I actually enjoyed listening to when you guys put him on the air two weeks ago because he comes across as much more of a human being who is just trying to make his way through life, right?
Rather than looking at his posts on Belgab thinking, who is this guy?
Get off my website.
I know.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know about the get off my website.
That's a little judgmental there, General.
I don't know.
Get off my website.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm saying he's clogging up with stuff about the weather stripping on his apartment door.
It's stuff that we don't, we don't, I don't know.
Yeah, anyway.
Okay.
Well, right now, as we speak, I am going in here and I am going to, let's see, recent recent posts and the, oh, shit.
Okay, so recent, we'll do this.
I don't know how to...
I don't know how to use my forum.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'll get rid of that recent posts thing.
We'll see how it works.
How about that?
Okay, I'll probably complain.
You probably will, and I'll be affected by it because of my admiration and respect for you.
I don't.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I really, you know, and that podcast years, by far, best thing on UFO ship.
And, you know, by the way, when, what's the name of that guitar magazine that wants to carry your podcast?
Fret Files.
Yeah, the Fretboard Journal is potentially, we're going to work out some kind of partnership, but I don't know.
Was I not supposed to, well, I guess it's okay to mention it.
They tweeted it, right?
Yeah, right.
That's okay.
They've gotten 9,000, I guess almost 10,000 followers on their Twitter feed.
When they're Twittering with people, they use Twitter.
So anyway, they tweeted, hey, if you like shows about guitars being fixed and maintained and what have you, here's a nice podcast to check out, which was yours.
I retweeted that.
I also retweeted it through the Gabcast Twitter account, which, by the way, the Gabcast Twitter account has like, what, 350 followers?
You guys really did a lot of half of them are Russian, fake Russian eggs.
You know, I think I ran the Twitter audit.
I think I ran the Twitter audit once and it came back like 85% real.
Someone can factor that.
That's pretty good.
Nice.
Yeah, I ran that a few months ago, too, and it's typical of everybody else's Twitter feed, except for Jimmy Church's, of course.
So, General, if they wind up carrying your show, what that means is you will or will not be removing the show from UFOShip.com.
You just don't know yet.
I honestly don't know.
I really don't know.
And yeah.
You better not pull that show, you son of a bitch.
You know, I have to thank you for getting me into podcasting in the first place, because I never would have started unless you had put out the call saying, look, maybe you're an expert in, you know, shoe repair.
You should have a podcast.
I'm looking for podcasts to fill up my website.
And a bell went off in my head, right?
And I thought, oh, I could, you know, because I've always wanted to try my hand at a talk show, but I never knew what to do it about.
So you really, you know, if it weren't for you, I would never have started that podcast.
And I'm sure there are numerous other good things that would never have happened to you but for me.
But we'll just leave it at that one.
Well, that's it.
No, it's really a great show.
And when you told me you wanted to do it, I said, absolutely, let's do it before I even heard anything from you.
I knew it would be excellent.
I knew you're not a bullshitter.
Well, now that we're done cupping one another, I guess we should move on, huh?
Indeed.
That's where you play the Georgian Orange.
All right, Eric, it's been a pleasure, and we'll look forward to seeing what happens.
We need to move along.
If I may, sir, if I may.
I love the Gabcast, and this is in no way a jab at the Gabcast.
Oh, no, here we go.
But now that you, now that you have no other podcast, like the spec sheet, right, is no more.
Are you thinking of doing a new show, a new Michael Van Dieven show?
Because I would really love it if you would start up the train wreck again or do an entirely new show and, you know, of course, keep the Gabcast going as well.
But I'm just wondering what you had planned in the future, if anything.
Nothing.
That's a good question.
Are you looking for something sort of tech-oriented?
Anything.
I just, you know what?
I listened to the spec sheet, and I had no idea what they were talking about because I'm not into tech.
But I listened to it because I really liked the people hosting the show.
Kind of like all of us and Bell.
Right?
Yeah.
That is why I listened to Art Bell because I liked Art Bell, not because I ever gave a shit about the topics he discussed.
Not to say I'm on par with him in any regard, but I understand your sentiment.
Yeah, well, I just think that you do something else because not that, I mean, the Gabcast is great too, but I just, I'm saying mediocre.
It's fun, because I, well, it's fun for me because I use Bellgab and like Bellgab.
I don't know.
On the one hand, it kind of feels like when I came back to this show, when the spec sheet was over with, my coming back here sort of upset the rhythm of things.
Not necessarily in a bad way or in a good way.
Maybe in a bad way.
Maybe in a good way.
I don't know.
Other people can decide that for themselves.
But you can't have a show where there's not somebody, not somebody, not somebody, not somebody.
And then suddenly, here's that somebody.
He's part of the show now.
Without the show changing in some very noticeable way, as has happened with this show now.
And indeed.
And it just kind of feels like, okay, now I came back here.
Oh, and then I'm going to quit this again and go start doing.
It just feels a little schizophrenic to do that.
I don't know.
Good point.
You need to call in and do the George Nori soundboard.
If you could just stay on the phone for future episodes and just voice in real time the George Nori soundboard for us, I think that's going to work.
I end up using George Nori drops in my day-to-day conversation, and people just look at me like I'm insane.
Well, I've never enjoyed cupping somebody so much, and I've never enjoyed being cupped as much as I've enjoyed this evening.
Oh, but you should be sitting over here watching this cupping take place.
I'm telling you what.
Eric's very impressive.
I just want everybody to know.
Very girthy.
That's why you're kissing my ass.
I've done nothing.
Very girthy.
Ladies.
Happy New Year.
Okay, brother.
Okay, brother.
You want to be a Hulk maniac?
Every time I say brother to somebody, immediately this image of Hulk will go, okay, brother.
Anyway, yeah, if you want to be on the show, 623242 cast, 623242CAT.
So thanks to Eric, aka the general of the FRET Files, for his lovely words, his nice, kind words.
Yeah, I can't wait to listen to the new episode where he talks about the different capacitors, the real expensive capacitors Capacitors and the real cheap capacitors, and if they actually are if there's a difference,
if there's an audio difference if you buy the expensive ones versus the cheap ones, yes, I think that's very interesting too, because some of the things I've done here from an audio standpoint have had a lot to do with what capacitors were selected.
And I am curious to know how much bearing that really does ultimately have on whether or not something sounds better or worse.
Oh, people go out of their way to spend, I don't know, hundreds of dollars to get one stamped with like 1968 on it or something when a brand new one is going to have just as good or the same tone.
But you have to do something like the general's going to do to prove that it really doesn't matter.
Well, don't spoil anything, but it seems to me, based on my understanding of what a capacitor does, it's basically like a very short-lived battery, and it's designed to hold a charge so that from one side of the capacitor to the other, you can adjust, I guess, the voltage, and it'll be consistent.
That's the best way I can.
I do not proclaim myself an electronics genius, believe me.
But it's basically like a little battery.
And I can't imagine any battery from 1968 that I would give a shit to use.
And so to think that people are going out and getting capacitors from that era to use in anything.
I didn't even know people are doing that until you just said that.
I can't believe somebody would want to do that.
What would be so much better about a capacitor from 45 years ago?
Bragging rights.
You can take off the case cover on the back of your guitar and say, see, look what I have.
And it really doesn't mean anything.
You want to know a little secret?
I think the materials are a little bit different too for the older capacitors.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
You can answer his question.
I'm just randomly spewing at the mouth here.
Go ahead.
Redacted, are the materials in the older capacitors, are they different or are they still pretty much built the same?
The differences are so slight and minuscule as to just not matter.
There's no tone coming out of that.
Your tone is in the wood of the guitar, the strings, your pickups.
That's where your tone is going to live.
There's things that matter to your tone, and then there's things that just you can make a 2x4 an electric guitar.
And the capacitors, I mean, it's just, I don't know.
It's like trying to improve your home entertainment system with a new remote.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Does it really make that much of a difference in anything if you have this fancy or crappy remote?
It still turns it on, turns the volume up and down.
Like, it's not, if you have a capacitor that is functioning, hey, we're in business.
Well, for anybody interested in what it is that's being discussed at this moment, you're going to be able to go to really at any time.
The show's already posted at ufoship.com.
Just click on the FRET files in the main menu, listen to the most recent show.
And I think there are a lot of people out there that would be interested in that subject because capacitors and the quality thereof, that applies to a lot of stuff and well beyond guitars.
So I would think a lot of people could be interested in that.
But Benedict Darn.
I mean, Eric Daw decides to go over to this guitar magazine and move his show over there.
I have to say, it's going to be a sad day for all of us.
He'll be dead to us.
Did he not sign a non-compete?
Well, he did, but, you know, he's just not a man of his word.
We'll just leave it at that.
He's going to get famous and forget all of us.
Yeah.
I hope that what can happen is that he's able to continue posting it in both places.
That would be the best.
I mean, really, why not?
I mean, if you're doing a show, I mean, you've already got an established podcast feed with people who are subscribed to it.
So those people are going to have to actively go out and resubscribe to your show.
I think it makes more sense.
I hope he's able to leave it in both places.
Plus, it's a quality show.
I mean, from the first time I heard it, I was like, I was embarrassed because I felt like, man, what I'm doing is shit.
This is a really good show.
The Fred Files with Eric Daw.
UFOShip.com.
Did anybody see the interview?
Yes, I did.
I did not.
What do you think, Jasmunda?
I was not impressed.
You know, there were some funny parts to it, but it's not going to be winning any Oscars, that's for sure.
Not that I thought it would.
Yeah, it was quite disappointing.
I can only remember one scene where my wife and I actively had a physical laugh.
Oh, I had no physical laughs.
I had a few hehe's and yeah, well, there were.
Yeah, it was more of a hee-hee.
No, no, I was not.
I didn't lose my mud, as my grandmother used to say.
No, she didn't say that.
You had a cool grandma.
She rocked.
She was down with Occupy Wall Street and all that shit, yo.
But the only moment in the movie that I can recall where I did laugh, but it wasn't, I mean, it was nothing like talking about firefub on this show, the way I laugh when we do that.
It was nothing even remotely comparable.
I mean, it was just, you know, but it was a laugh.
And that was the scene where he's pounding on the, where James Franco is pounding on the bed in despair.
He doesn't know that the Asian girl, the Korean girl is underneath the cupboard.
That was when I chuckled.
But that was it, man.
I mean, this movie is just so much hype.
I mean, but for this hacking and but for the what I think are false allegations that North Korea is responsible for this, I don't, I don't believe that at all.
I don't buy that.
They just my instincts tell me this is not the country that goes around hacking anything, whether it's a simple FTP site.
I mean, where does North Korea get the brains to do that?
I mean, do they just have North Korean nationals who go live abroad and learn how to do this stuff and then work for the regime abroad?
Apparently they do have a go ahead, Jazz.
No, I was going to say, unless it was done via the Chinese who would have all of that infrastructure in place.
Well, it would have to have happened over one of 1,024 IP addresses.
Did you know the entire nation of North Korea is allocated only 1,024 IP addresses?
I'm not surprised.
That sounds about right.
Rather generous, actually.
Did I say the island of North Korea?
You might have.
I am so.
I'm sorry.
If I did, you have my apologies.
My God.
Go ahead, Redacted.
I'm not sure North Korea even has the caloric intake to hack anything.
Mental work does burn a lot of calories.
They don't have grocery stores.
Where are they even going to get the Doritos that are required to pull off a hacking of anything?
We learned in the interview that all of the fruits and vegetables are, in fact, made of plastic.
They are fake.
The aisles you see behind the glass are nothing more than a facade.
This is what we learned.
So I frankly am thankful I saw the movie because I learned a lot beyond the big laughs that my wife and I had together and will remember for a long time to come.
Yeah, I was actually more impressed with how I actually got to see it.
I'm on vacation at the moment and I remotely logged into my computer at home.
I downloaded it onto my computer at home and then streamed it to my Apple TV that I bought with me connected to the hotel's TV.
So I thought that was even more impressive than the whole hacking scandal.
I think anyone who manages to see this movie without having paid for the movie, that's a smart person.
That's really the end of my, and that's all I have to say about that.
So, no, the poll is not rigged.
I have not eliminated private messages to my inbox in any way as a result of the existence of the poll.
They're entirely unrelated.
And I'm just tired of people contacting me about crap, you know?
After this thing's been running since April of 2008, I'm just kind of tired of it all.
I really am.
Can you give us any examples of what inane things people would message you with?
People write me to apologize for something they've said to another user on the forum.
To another, like I'm this, I'm this.
Sorry, I got angry.
Like I'm this being that sits with my, sits in the Native American, the Indian cross-legged position floating about a foot above the floor.
And when two people have a fight on the forum, there's a sound that reverberates through the room as I'm floating.
The voice has been harmed because two people are not getting along.
And then, you know, that's, I mean, whatever, dude.
I don't care that you're not getting along with somebody.
I get people that send me messages to tell me they're quitting the forum for this reason or that reason.
Man, you know how many stacks of those types of messages I could have in front of me right now?
You could use that as fireplace kindling probably for three to five seasons.
I remember that guy that actually posted a thread saying he wanted you to delete his account because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's my favorite thread.
His username was Awake.
I remember that.
Yes.
It resurfaced recently.
I think that's a female, actually.
That person doesn't write like a man.
One of my favorite quotes ever was what you said to this person Awake where you called her a noxious gunbag or something like that.
Yeah.
That's my favorite quote ever.
Really?
Well, thank you.
Yeah, I think it was something along those lines, yes.
I just feel like if you have to send someone a message to say, I'm quitting the forum, then your true motive isn't just to say you're quitting.
So can we just perform?
Yes, can we get past the unspoken messages, please?
Can we get past?
Can we just be direct?
I've had enough of that.
And no, I'm not trying to be dramatic.
I really am sick of running a forum.
I'm really sick of it.
And the thing makes money.
That's the only reason that I continue monkeying with this.
I can assure you, I have a two-year-old child.
I'm married.
I own a business.
I have another child on the way, by the way.
So things are going to be.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Everything still works.
That's always nice to see.
Well, at least until the child comes out and you convince that it's yours.
And if anybody asks me what I did to make my wife pregnant, I'm going to get pissed and hang up.
Was Mayonnaise?
Wasn't involved.
What did you do to create this child exactly?
How did that happen?
Like, in detail?
Well, first we go buy a nice bottle of Manashevitz.
I like cherry flavor.
Was the turkey baster involved at all?
Well, let's just say you use whatever implements get the job more efficiently executed.
We'll put it that way.
So it was an egg beater then.
Yeah.
Well, a woman needs her pleasure.
You know, you can't just make it all about the man.
You've got to be creative.
So egg beaters, turkey basters, whatever you want to think.
So, condiments.
I mean, I'm going to really have my hands full.
And so just this kindergarten rinky-dink bullshit, it just doesn't interest me at all the way it once did.
My perspective on life has changed in a lot of different ways since April of 2008.
Frankly, I don't hate George Norrie.
I don't even give a shit about the fact that he's hosting Coast.
It looks to me like, you know, he's been no worse a steward to Coast or the genre in general than Art Bell himself has.
So, really, at least he comes to work.
I've got an idea.
Would you consider selling the site to Folkie and then that would solve all your problems?
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, God.
Everything is for sale in this universe.
I mean, somebody.
It really could become FolkyGab, but this is genius, MV.
I mean, I am in no way bound by ethics, morals, anything of the sort if the dollar amount is right.
So I've got something to drink.
Unfortunately, the exchange would be box fans, but yeah.
Eddie Dean, sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss with those.
I know, I know.
We got to call them when they don't work, you know?
Well, I will sell it to Premiere Radio if the price is right.
I make no bones about it.
I have no qualms.
I'm without shame in that regard.
I will totally sell.
I will sell every one of you down the river in 10 seconds for half a farthing.
I just don't care.
But I'm just tired.
I really am tired of receiving messages from people about bullshit.
That's why I'm no longer receiving private messages.
Boy, we really dragged that out, didn't we?
See, and you guys need to help me move along.
If I'm dwelling on something for too long, you guys need to say, hey, can we move along here?
Because I am not in my right mind.
I'm extremely sleep-deprived.
All I'll say about that is people sending you private messages apologizing for the shit they say to other members or bullshit like that says a lot about some of the other forums out there where there are 50 moderators and every single thing is moderated or monitored to some respect.
Why would anybody use one of those sites?
It doesn't sound fun at all.
They take themselves entirely too seriously.
These are words on a screen posted by people I don't know.
That ultimately have no impact on your dinner or your morning or anything else that's really going to actually happen in your life.
People act like it does matter.
There have only been three times that I was not able to perform as a result of something I read on this forum.
Only three.
That's it?
Just three?
Just three.
Can't elaborate?
Anyone who thinks this is affecting my private life, you better just move along.
You don't know what you're talking about.
John B. Wells is doing voiceovers here, there, and everywhere.
I wonder what that means.
Does it mean that his new venture, his new online streaming venture isn't a success?
And so he's just sort of trying to get money wherever he can, or is that just what he does?
Does anyone listening to this or hosting this show tonight know anything about his current online endeavor and whether it's succeeding in any meaningful way?
Didn't he sell his show to what is it called?
I think another radio station picked it up or something.
His new show?
Yeah, I think I read something that Caravan at Midnight was picked up by somebody, maybe a small AM station.
Really?
I can't remember.
I think so.
I think I recall reading that.
Could this be the beginning of the next Art Bell?
Art Bell is going to be Art Bell is going to be out Art Belled by somebody who's not Art Bell.
Is that bound to happen?
Is that what's about to happen here?
Is he going to be this guy that builds this slow, steady network that eventually takes over the overnight radio waves?
The station is KYAH.
Yeah.
Wow, V1 News Talk on the nines, weather on the threes.
You know, that whole paranoid, the ultra-right, you know, right-wing conspiracy thing is pretty popular these days, isn't it?
It really is.
I mean, that's the big thing.
I have family members.
just so in bed with alex jones that i cannot listen to anything he says i just that that really is a tough sell isn't it Listening to some guy who's just gung-ho about Alex Jones.
Well, he's got his head straight up Alex Jones' ass.
I mean, really, it fits in there.
Oh, God, they go on each other's shows, and it's just like, come on, guys.
What are these guys going to do after Obama is out and Republican is in the White House or Conservative in the White House?
What are they going to talk about then?
Is it still going to be the same thing?
I don't know, man.
When Bush was in the White House, I think these people probably saw record amounts of growth in terms of their ability to reach the market.
I remember hearing Alex Jones on really big radio stations all throughout the, or at least during the Bush administration.
Although Bush was no conservative, I know a lot of people, in order to enable themselves to further hate people who call themselves conservatives, like to say Bush was one.
Because Bush was so hatable in so many ways that if you can call him a conservative, then anyone who really is one, wow.
It's so much easier to hate that person.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get political.
Holy shit, I'm going home.
You guys have a good night.
Here's the theme song.
But anyway, what was the point?
The point was that I don't really think these people care who the president is.
I think Alex Jones will be just as batshit crazy during a Rand Paul administration as he will during a Ralph Nader administration.
Yeah, that's true.
Guess it is mostly about the evil government.
I guess it really doesn't matter if there's a conservative or liberal or R or a D in the White House.
Well, these guys have power bills to pay.
They have kids to feed.
And so, I mean, I don't think Alex Jones is going to make a lot of money by coming in one day going, oh, you know, everything seems to be fixed.
As I look around the landscape out there, I don't think the things I was bothered by, they seem like they're getting better.
So I'm going to take your calls right now and you tell me if you think things are better.
Chattanooga.
Yeah, I think things are really rocking and rolling.
We got a Republican now.
He's a conservative.
There's no more fluoride in my life.
See, I agree with this caller here.
I'm fucking shutting this thing down.
Y'all have a good afternoon.
I'm Alex.
That will not happen.
For yourselves, and people buy it up.
Yeah.
Yep.
I had family members who have just totally, well, a family member who has just totally been sucked in by that whole universe.
Like, I can tell you what his opinion is on any conspiratorial subject or GMOs or 9-11 or vaccines for children or fluoride in the water or globalists.
Yes.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Illuminati.
Yes.
I can tell you exactly what he thinks about any number of subjects before he tells me.
It's, I don't know.
And I don't think that he's not unintelligent.
It's just sometimes there's a philosophical thing that people buy into, and you just can't really suck them back out of it once they're in.
And I think that that whole Alex Jones vibe that he has, that there's really a market out there for that.
So back on point then, is John B. Wells still doing his radio show on the internet?
Does he still have the same setup that he had?
I believe.
Well, I don't know if he has the same setup, but I believe that he still is doing a podcast and selling it, having subscriptions.
And I don't know if he's still doing video, but I just remember when he first started, his audio feed was just so terrible.
It was like he had a microphone across the room.
You know, you could hear ambulances and cars going by outside.
And it was just really horrible.
Yeah, well, so Caravan to midnight every Wednesday at 12:30 p.m.
Let's see.
Yeah, here's another thing that was discussed in passing on the forum.
You know, I really wish Art would scrap this whole internet streaming idea when he comes back in July.
And I kind of said as much on the forum, but I think it would be an interesting discussion for this show as well.
I really just think that there are so many reasons not to go about this in the way he's about to do and the way he asserts he's going to in July of 2015.
I mean, it's not easy to build an audience on the internet because people on the internet have so many billions of places to go to get whatever content it is that they want to listen to on a regular basis.
And think about it this way: you know, people who are listening to streaming talk shows, people who subscribe to podcasts, many of these people have been listening to what they listen to for a long time.
And so it's going to take something really impactful to get them to insert something new into their listening routine.
And so you face that hurdle.
Have the fact that web streaming, whether it's being done by SiriusXM or whether you're doing it yourself, it inherently is not without complexities.
Sometimes shit doesn't work right.
And the point I made on the forum was that when this whole thing with Keith Rowland getting publicly fired by Art Bell happened, Keith Rowland apparently didn't properly notify Art that one of the hosts on Art's stream is going to be on Coast to Coast AM.
Art decided it was time to fire Keith Rowland, his webmaster, as a result of Keith's supposed misstep.
It took the website down.
Yeah, not just fire.
He took his bowl and went home.
Yeah, and as I said previously, I couldn't wrap my mind around that because here you've got this website.
It's up.
It's running.
It's been built.
You've already paid the guy who built it.
So that is a product that you have purchased.
So why?
Because it's like if I decide I don't want to shop at Walmart any longer, I'm going to go through my home and find every product I ever purchased at Walmart and I'm going to smash it in my front yard.
It doesn't make any sense.
You paid for the website.
Why would you go and take the website down?
My point is that we all saw this public volatility in the relationship between Art Bell and Keith Rowland.
Obviously, that's like just precariously perched and it could totally implode at any moment.
The public instability of the whole thing.
I mean, it just speaks of lack of professionalism and any little leaf on the wind can blow it down.
Yeah, Art's a bit of a burn-your-bridges kind of guy.
You know, he doesn't like something.
Something doesn't go his way, and it's, you know, there's he just explodes.
Burns breaches.
I don't want to see Art.
Excuse me.
I don't want to see Art.
I thought you were doing Falke there.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I was trying to.
I don't want to see Art sign another contract and don't compete.
I don't want to see him getting in with another syndication deal where they require a certain amount of ad, you know, ads per show.
And, you know, I really want to see Art do the internet streaming thing and see what happens.
You know, I don't know if that's to any point that you were talking about, but I wasn't paying attention.
But no, I want Art to come back, but I don't want him to be on terrestrial radio.
And I think he's said as much that he wants to stay as far away from terrestrial as possible and even admitted that SiriusXM was a huge mistake for him.
But the things that turned out to be the mistake, the characteristics of SiriusXM that turned out to be problematic for him.
I knew about all of these things, and I am not in any way involved in any capacity in any of it.
And I, just some random dude out here, I knew that Sirius has shitty online streaming that has been notoriously problematic from the beginning and is in no way showing signs of imminent repair or improvement.
I know that you're going to have to build an audience when you move to a platform of that nature.
It's not like broadcasting on terrestrial radio where your audience has to put in virtually zero effort to hear you.
They don't have to install special equipment.
They don't have to pay a monthly fee.
And if they're hearing you on the radio, it's probably because they don't have any other method of being entertained.
And so you almost have a captive audience with terrestrial radio because there are only so many stations to listen to.
So you just, there's so much stacked against you on SiriusXM.
I knew that.
I know that when Art announced it was going to be SiriusXM, there was a collective sigh of disappointment, just an instinctive sigh of disappointment because everyone knew that was a bad thing.
So why didn't he know that?
Why didn't the people he's surrounded by know that?
And I feel like I'm watching the same thing on the verge of happening here with this imminent online streaming thing that's supposed to happen in July.
I feel like at the first crack in the dyke, Keith Rowland is going to wind up getting fired.
The whole thing is going to get shut down.
I mean, what's the – as I said, streaming is not reliable.
And so when that gets fucked up, let's say it happens three times in a row and Art decides that that's Keith Rowland's fault.
I don't want to interrupt, but apparently the stream is fucked.
Is it?
Yeah.
The stream's down.
That's what they say.
Oops.
I accidentally.
Call back, please.
Call back.
I accidentally have disconnected us from our co-host.
Jasmunda, can you hear me?
Hello.
See, I don't understand why Skype works this way.
It is so stupid.
Jasmunda, can you hear me?
Yeah, I can.
Okay, redacted?
Gotcha.
Okay, yeah, this is what sucks about Skype, which is why we stopped using it.
Because if I click the wrong button, man, we are just toast and it drops everybody.
What was the point I was about to make?
I just.
You were talking about how Art's very finicky and the streaming is unpredictable and if this direction he wants to go in, he's going to have to, you know, man up and deal with difficulties as they come along.
He can't just quit when he, you know, it gets too hard.
His caller base is going to be way smaller than it was on Sirius.
I'm totally confident of that.
I totally believe that he's going to have a smaller audience online at artbell.com than he did on SiriusXM.
And I feel like he is.
His expectations of what's going to happen when he pots up his mic on that first show are, well, they might be met on that first show, but two months in, let's say, is he still going to feel good about things the way he could if he were on terrestrial radio with a truly unlimited audience?
I know, you know, probably not.
You think logically the internet is the unlimited audience, but it's really not.
It's really terrestrial radio.
As much as it sucks to have to say that, because I, like anyone else, would love to see terrestrial radio just wither and die and go away.
Well, you know what?
We'll find out after.
Go ahead.
What we'll find out after the first two months of Art's new show, if that indeed happens, we'll find out if his heart is really in it on the first thing that happens or, you know, when he gets 15 callers from Bell Gabbers every single night, you know, on his show.
So we'll find out if Art really wants to do this.
Well, with the volatility we've already witnessed in the relationship between Art and Keith, the first time there are problems that Art feels he shouldn't be having, technically, is Keith going to, you know, is he going to get the boot?
Is everything going to come crashing down?
Because, you know, I mean, he's not committed to anything.
He's not contractually obligated to anybody if he's just doing his own thing.
I'm sure that being contractually bound has stopped Art from making a lot of moves in his past that he would otherwise have made.
Is there some way for you to know if the stream is streaming right now?
Um yeah, by the people in the chat room telling us that uh when they yell they can't hear us.
Yeah, I don't understand why they can't hear us because I'm looking at the stream encoder.
It's all working perfectly as far as I can tell.
And yeah, and I just tried to listen to the stream on my uh on my tablet and it it was working.
Yeah, see, you cannot trust the audience when they tell you this stuff.
It might be intermittent just for you know a certain audience member or something like that.
The audience will trust.
I've seen that every once in a while.
Well, the audience will mind fuck you with this.
Yeah, the only one I trust there is Alderson, but he could be stoned.
I wonder how reliable the stream hosting that we use actually is.
I have 50 slots, 41 of them, listener slots.
41 of them are filled up right now.
And at 128 kilobits per second, that's some data.
That's some bandwidth.
And so I wonder how truly capable this stream host is of handling all this.
I don't know.
Well, yeah, I wonder how many.
Go ahead, Redaction.
Doesn't this make my point?
I mean, I'm using a legitimate stream hosting company, by the way.
It's not some mom-and-pop bullshit operation.
These people have a data center.
And here we are with listeners saying they can't hear the show.
Do you think that with the tolerance levels Art was showing towards SiriusXM, that that's going to bode well for the future of his internet streaming adventure?
I mean, I just don't.
This is my, I'm not excited about July 2015.
I feel like it's the approachment, the approach of a funeral.
You don't have Keith Rowland working for you, nor the hours and hours and hundreds and hundreds of listeners that he's had testing this stream out.
I wish Art would hire Curtis Thornton of the special.
I agree.
I think Curtis would be better for art than anything Art has ever had as far as a tech guy to turn to.
And, you know, Curtis would be able to do everything, and I could, you know, chime in with advice about how best to deliver the live show.
I've been doing that for years.
I've had a lot of experience with all of that.
I think art could do a lot better.
That's not to say if I were involved, that it would be a lot better, but it would be a lot better if it were Curtis.
He should fire Keith Rowland, hire Curtis Thornton.
That's my advice.
I'm Michael Van Deeven.
Thank you.
I agree with that.
I think that would be stable.
But here's the thing: I came up with the suggestion that maybe he broadcast something through KNYE and stream it at the same time on the internet.
Just an idea.
And then, you know, we got the inside information that, oh, his ex-wife owns that radio station now.
Who's ex-wife?
It's not his ex-wife.
No, it's not his ex-friend.
No, it's not his ex-wife.
Really?
Yeah, it's ex-white.
Redacted.
You know, if you want to co-host this show, if you're going to come on here spreading misinformation to try and lead our audience astray, that's a standard that, you know, our standards, we're committed to our audience, apparently.
Maybe you don't share that philosophy.
Well, that's how much show prep I put into it.
But the article that was posted said ex-wife.
Really?
Where's that at?
On our bell thread.
Should be in the article.
It was something that Katz put up as an answer to my question of if Art still owned KNYE.
Are people still complaining about not being able to hear the show?
Not that I can see.
Oh, there goes the stream again, someone said.
Okay.
Because I just went to.
Seriously, it can't be trusted, though.
Okay.
See, I just went to the Shoutcast Administrator page that shows the stats on the stream, and I refreshed it, and it's just hanging.
So, it's pretty clear that something's messed up.
Let me see if I can.
There's no point in sitting here trying to deliver audio brilliance if the audience can't hear us.
So, let's go ahead and see if we can't fix this really fast.
Someone in the chat room has asked if this is a setup to avoid posting the poll results.
I'm going to restart the server.
It's a conspiracy, damn it.
If you guys could tell the listening audience in the chat room if they could refresh the page, please.
There we go.
Yeah, just have them refresh the page.
I have restarted the Shoutcast server.
That should alleviate these issues, I would imagine.
So, I really, Art, I'm a fan.
I love what you did on the radio.
If someone just ran, if anyone asked me, name the two biggest names, in your opinion, in radio, one of them would obviously have to be Rush.
The other one would be Art Bell.
There are others, of course, you know, people would name Stern, but I mean, Art Bell is just right up there at the top.
And I really want to see your show succeed.
I want to see you succeed.
I want to see a nice Art Bell legacy when everything is done and over with.
And I just, I don't know, man.
This whole streaming thing just feels icky to me, especially considering the events of the last, what, two months?
When did Keith Rowland get fired?
I think it was only about a month ago, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Six weeks, maybe.
I'm having trouble perceiving time at the moment.
I believe it's my sleep deprivation.
So, anyway.
If he was on K-9 on one station, I mean, how does that benefit art in any way?
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Why?
Because, you know, it's a little bit more.
He'll be heard in Turum, Nevada.
Yeah.
But Nevada.
Who's listening to it?
There's a few cat ladies.
I don't think Art has the, you know, he doesn't have the team together or the corporation behind him to be able to work out deals and stuff.
I think someone said it on one of the threads, you know, to be able to build an empire again, you know, build affiliates and all that.
I think he's done with all that.
It's a lot of work.
And he had Ramona right there with him to help with all of the heavy lifting.
He doesn't have that infrastructure anymore, and he's 70 years old.
He's not getting any younger.
You know, Jasmunda, you really are a depressing asshole.
You didn't make me feel better with that statement.
I don't know.
Art, if you're listening, please consider terrestrial radio.
That's all we're saying.
Whatever you do, this is probably going to be the last hurrah, whether it's terrestrial radio or it's the internet.
So who cares if you're bound to another no-compete?
Because this venture is going to probably be your last anyway.
So it doesn't really matter.
But if you want to be successful in this venture, I don't think you're getting good advice from the people you're surrounded by.
And I think perhaps there's some self-interest that has led you astray in the decisions you've made.
I don't know.
Well, as long as Art has complete artistic control of his show and he can call the shots, I mean, you know, maybe a terrestrial radio would work for him.
Why couldn't that be a negotiation?
Everything is negotiable.
Anything Art wants can be negotiated.
I mean, if he just wants to do four minutes of commercials per half hour, I'm sure that's negotiable.
It's got to be.
He's Art Bell.
As I also said on Bell Gab, Dark Matter was a great show.
I really don't care what anybody says.
I thought it was great.
I thought Art still had every bit of the talent that he had the last time I heard him on the radio.
I felt like he had every bit of the talent that he had when I heard him in the 90s.
Maybe the times have changed, and so that sort of adjusts the context in which you hear things.
Yes, certainly didn't change.
No, I mean, he had the same people on that he did in the 90s.
You know, that was kind of disappointing.
Well, that's with the exception of the one guy, you know.
Well, that's a question.
UFO guy.
That's a question.
His producer was his friend Paul.
I mean, Paul's a nice guy.
I talked to him on the phone a couple of times whenever we were working the angles to have the spec sheet on Art's stream.
And he was a really nice guy.
I didn't, I mean, I don't hate everybody.
I mean, I liked Ball.
I didn't at all get the whole Keith Rowland vibe from him.
He was a really nice guy.
Yeah, he seemed to be.
But that doesn't necessarily make him a great producer.
And whoever the producer is, that's going to be directly related to who winds up being a guest on the show.
Was Paul perhaps not the best choice as a producer?
Should maybe somebody young and fresh who doesn't remember the old 1990s Art Bell have been brought in to do that?
Yeah.
I mean, we don't know if it was the producer that brought those people in or if it was Art himself, you know, just to kind of reminisce and kickstart the new show with familiar guests.
You're probably right.
And it was only six weeks in.
I mean, if we had seen another six weeks or more, who knows?
You know, you're probably right.
Might have found some fresh blood or some new crazies out there that they could bring on.
You know, I hate to admit Eddie Dean is right about that.
Makes me.
I feel physical pain right now.
Let's move on, please.
First time ever.
You think Art should rename the show?
I don't think it should be called Dark Matter.
I don't think.
Yeah, I didn't like it.
I didn't like Dark Matter from the beginning, but now that there's so much bad karma and negative energy associated with that, I just by the way, I think it's going to stay that considering that the radio network is called the Dark Matter Radio Network.
You know something?
It just occurred to me if Art Bell is not supposed to in any way be involved in the Dark Matter radio network.
He's not supposed to be the owner of it.
He's not supposed to.
Essentially, he's not supposed to be violating his no-compete contract, which is why that separation was made and the whole thing was moved over to a website that, for all intents and purposes, is owned by and operated by Keith Rowland, so that Art could not be accused of violating his no-compete as a result of a decision to run an internet radio stream, which, yes, would be in violation of a no-compete agreement.
I think what happened at some point along the line, the light bulb went off for somebody and they decided, yeah, that probably isn't the best thing.
So that's why they moved the website over.
But doesn't Art kind of reveal his hand when he gets upset that one of the people doing a show on that stream goes over to Coast?
I mean, doesn't that...
Yes.
And the fact that it's called the Dark Matter Radio Network.
Yeah, there's that.
I mean, we're not.
I thought they weren't.
How was it they moved because of the terrorist threat?
Go ahead, Eddie.
How is that violating the non-compete?
Well, I'm not the radio network, but he's not actually broadcasting himself.
Well, I don't know that it would necessarily violate the no-compute.
I haven't seen the no-compete, and I don't know what it's comprised of.
I have no idea.
It's on the turn.
But I can assure you, it's not because I said I would suicide bomb Verizon if I were a terrorist.
That's not why that was moved.
I'm insulted.
Everyone should be insulted that that was even purported to be the reason why.
That was just lame city.
Take the fast train to Lameville and I'll meet you.
I'm so tired.
Who knows?
So how about the poll results, man?
Are we going to do the poll results before we shut this fucker down?
No, you want to end the show.
Well, if you want to, it sounded like you're tired and keep going, then you can keep going.
I thought we were enjoying ourselves here.
I don't know.
Are you guys enjoying this?
Do you think we should end the show?
I'm legitimately asking.
I mean, do you think we should end?
Well, I've had two hours of no folky, or one and a half, so I'm itching to get back to it.
So if we can just hurry up.
All right.
Well, that's going to be a buzzkill.
I'd say that is pretty conclusive.
Well, I'll just throw this piece of paper away that I printed and planned.
I'm just kidding.
I would like to, by the way, honorable mention.
I would like to say anyone who is interested in astronomy, understands astronomy, understands the math and the science behind astronomy, you really should check out AstroGuy's Exposing Pseudo-Astronomy podcast.
It's great, man.
I remember, I checked out an episode of that where he breaks down Richard C. Hoagland's Sidonia assertions using Richard's own mathematical assertions and the detail and the just I was in awe.
Whenever I'm listening to somebody who's a master of what it is that they're discussing, I'm just glued.
I really appreciate that sort of thing.
That's why I like Eric's guitar podcast, The Fret Files, so much, because it's nice to listen to someone who really knows what they're talking about on a particular subject discussing that subject, if it's an interesting subject.
And Astro Guy is definitely one of those people.
I was so impressed.
He really is.
I mean, he uses Richard's own words and formulas to just blow his theories out of the water.
I mean, it's really incredible.
I don't know how anybody could actually think that Richard C. Hoagland was, you know, I'm hearing it echo a little bit, but how Richard C. Hoagland was a actual scientist and the theories that he says is even close to being true.
But yeah, that a podcast is really great.
That's the Exposing Pseudo-Astronomy podcast.
I would highly recommend.
I'm sure you can just go to Google and type Exposing Pseudo-Astronomy podcast, and you're going to be right there.
He's got a thread on Belgab underneath the, what is it?
It's in the podcasts section.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Podcast section.
The only thing that I would suggest is he's kind of, he sounds like he's really far away from the microphone.
It sounds like it's you can hear a lot of the room noise and stuff, but it also sounds like he's an audio engineer.
It also sounds like he's reading.
And I would like him to just talk.
But the content is second to none.
Amazing show.
And so I recommend it.
Okay.
Poll results.
Let me refresh and see where we're at here.
Okay, with 192 votes recorded.
Wait, so I think you need to explain what happens.
Well, I want to read the results first because I don't want to be backed into any corner or committed to.
Why are you trying to rope me in?
I really.
Oh, yeah.
It's 192 votes counted.
58.9% say.
What do you think?
Eddie Dean, what do you say?
59% of the people out there say what.
What do you think, Eddie Dean?
What was the question?
Hold on.
It's my spot to shine, actually.
Let me talk.
Jasmunda's right.
I'm doing a horrible job setting this up.
The question is on the Falkey thread on Bellgab, should this thread be removed from the forum?
And so people were able to answer either yes or no.
192 votes recorded.
59% say what, Eddie Dean.
What do you think?
Yes.
Jasmunda?
I think if it's 58%, which I'll say yes.
Redacted?
And that's a yes over here.
Well, the answer is 59% of the people who answered this poll question decided that they think.
You bastard.
59% say yes.
41%.
41% say no.
It's actually 58.9%.
I thought it would be more as well.
I thought it would be a higher number, 80%.
I didn't think I did, but I thought 60, 70, maybe.
Now, it's not a scientific poll.
I will tell you.
We do have employees.
We do have employees who were traveling about the country, speaking to the people who voted, asking questions, getting facts, gleaning from these people, these participants, the facts to enable us to make determinations.
But even with that, it's not the most scientific poll out there.
You can vote more than once, correct?
Well, in theory, as best that can be, yes.
I mean, you know, it's the internet.
Jasmunda, I assure you, as God is my witness, no person has voted twice.
You got my guarantee, buddy.
I don't even think I voted once.
I will admit I voted twice.
Were there any hanging Chads?
See, I don't want to go down that road.
It's politics.
We've made a commitment.
Our audience doesn't like it.
Why do you want to get the audience riled up, Jasmunda?
I just don't.
I'm going to start calling you Jasmunder, actually.
I think that's probably how most Australians would pronounce that, wouldn't they?
They would say Jasmunder.
Definitely.
Yeah.
So what has not been discussed?
Can I ask?
Yes.
Jazz.
can i ask what has not been discussed as the son of a bitch i'm yelling louder and louder Can you hear me?
Can I ask how you guys voted?
Is that something that you would like to share?
I voted no.
So did I.
I voted yes twice.
You bitch.
Jasmunda?
I voted maybe.
There's no maybe.
Oh, so you voted twice.
Yes and no.
I see.
Yes.
I voted no twice, I will admit to that.
But that's because I have my account.
And then there's a test account that I log in with.
And so I saw the poll there when I was logged into the other account.
The mouse was beckoning me.
Vote again.
No, no one will be hurt.
Vote again.
Reach for the mouse.
And I just did it.
So, but even so, without my one vote of cheating, we're still at 113 to 79.
Yes.
Now, what has not necessarily been articulated is what this means.
Will the thread actually be deleted?
I don't think.
Right, we were just posing a question here.
Doesn't mean anything's going to happen.
It's been assumed that this is binding or something.
Eddie Dean.
The internet is not serious business.
You pointed out at the beginning of the show.
This all doesn't matter one bit.
Well, I will tell you that there are several people involved in this entire process making the decision, weighing the pros, weighing the cons.
There is an algorithm that's been devised.
A number of factors are being imported into this algorithm to make this determination.
It's no one single factor that's going to determine if this thread is in fact deleted from the forum.
There are numerous factors that are being taken into account in order to make that determination.
So I really want to be clear about that.
This is not necessarily binding.
And so I just don't want to have any...
All right.
I don't want to have any false expectations on the part of anybody out there.
Bottom line, though, I mean, what do you guys think?
Because of this poll, should the thread be removed?
Or should I just go to the main page and remove that most recent posts list and force people to use the other navigation method?
Second option.
Yeah, I think that's right.
What do you think, Eddie Dean?
No, I don't think either option.
I think that because I use the navigation thing at the bottom of the first page.
Jasmunda?
So neither option.
I think you should get rid of that.
Oh my gosh, so rude.
Jasmunda?
And I voted yes.
Well, what do you think should actually happen, though?
Do you think that the thread should be removed as a result of the vote?
Yeah, possibly.
Wow, you sound so non-committal here.
I just really feel like I'm pushing you into uncomfortable territory.
Go ahead.
I like one, and I think it'd be saving him from himself.
Hmm.
Wow.
Boy, there's a lot to think about here.
I'm kind of sweaty.
I don't know what to tell you people.
Okay, well, this has been the Gabcast.
We hope you've enjoyed the show tonight.
I enjoyed being here.
I didn't think I would because I'm just so strung out, sleep-deprived.
But I had a good time.
I hope you guys did too.
B-Dub, I love you and I miss you.
I always will.
Had a lot of great times together and a lot of memories.
You'll still be getting a Christmas card from me.
I don't care what you do.
Those cards are still going to get mailed, buddy.
All right, you guys.
I hope you had a good time.
Thanks for being here tonight.
Thanks to everybody listening at ufoship.com.
And we'll be back whenever we're back.
Next week, the week after that.
We don't know.
We'll tell you when the time comes.
Okay.
All right, everybody.
It's been real.
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