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25 November, 2014

25 November, 2014 ---------- On this episode, MV, Jazmunda, b_dubb, and eddie dean talk about the Ferguson, MO grand jury decision and some of the usual BellGab drama.

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The Gabcast, a podcast about Bellgab.com.
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It is the Gapcast.
Hi, everybody.
This is MV.
We've got B-W.
Hi.
Jasmunda.
Howdy.
And 18.
Hello, everybody.
And that comprises the show.
Have a lovely evening, and it was a pleasure coming to you.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
This is a podcast loosely based around Bellgab.com and the goings-on there.
And this is one of those shows where I guess we've literally done zero show prep.
I never saw you guys mention anything you wanted to talk about on the show tonight.
I certainly haven't done any.
I'm too pilled up to do any show prep.
I just thought I might sit here and describe the colors and the things that I see floating in front of me.
That might make for an interesting show.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it turned out I have diverticulitis.
Yikes.
Yeah.
At least it's not that.
Is it contagious?
No, it's like, well, it's diverticulitis slash colitis.
Ooh, that sounds fun.
It really is.
Anything that affects your ability to poop properly, sign me up.
How do I get involved?
No, the it really doesn't affect your pooping so much.
It's just really painful.
Is that the one that has you have pockets in your colon?
Right.
You have these little, you have these little, they're basically like little thumb-shaped protrusions that poke out from the inside of the colon.
And so you have to not eat things that have seeds because little things like seeds can get stuck in those and then it can get infected and then you can wind up having to have an abscess drained.
And so I'm really pilled up.
And I tell you what, man, I've only been on antibiotics a couple of times in my life, but I've never been on them where they make me feel sick.
These actually make me feel really shitty.
I don't know what it is.
I'm just tired of taking pills.
I don't understand pill bobbers.
Like, everybody's known people who are just pill poppers taking pills for this, that, and the other thing.
I can't imagine being one of those people.
I just hate taking pills.
Are you with me?
Strange you're not having the euphoric effects of the pain pills.
I am.
Actually, I didn't take them this.
I think I'm becoming addicted to them.
That's always a good sign.
We've got a temporary chat room set up, it would seem.
I don't know.
I'm going to have to read this URL off to people.
Minifang.no-ip.info colon 9090.
So if you want to be in a working functional chat room tonight, open up your web browser and type minifang.
That's M-I-N-I-F-A-N-G.no-ip.info colon 9090.
I don't know what's happened with the chat room.
We've been meaning to get that moved over to another server, and it just hasn't been completed yet.
Right now it's still running on a box that's at Curtis's house.
But, well, I should say, it doesn't seem to be running on a box that's located in.
Is he anywhere near Ferguson?
Well, That's an angle we hadn't considered.
He's in Indiana, isn't he?
That's why you're a part of this show, Jasmond.
You're so thoughtful and you're considering all the angles and possibilities.
Exactly.
Out of concern, I'm sure.
Yeah, so if you want to go, if you want to be a part of a chat room tonight, it looks like that's how you're going to have to do it.
I would suggest to people that you just go to bellgab.com, go into the Gabcast thread, and post in there.
Well, they've actually posted the address for the chat room in that thread.
So I was going to suggest that next one.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
That would have made sense as well.
It didn't even occur to me to do that.
I guess I should.
W250 is way ahead of all of us tonight.
He's on top of it.
I don't understand why he cares so much about our show.
I mean, he's getting paid nothing.
He's a big help.
I mean, like, getting the chat room transcripts together, all that stuff.
He's not a ginger.
He's not a ginger.
It's that simple.
Well, that we know of.
Maybe he's getting paid in some way that we're not aware of.
He's like skimming pennies off the top somewhere.
Like, I don't know what he's doing.
Surely he's got some motive here.
I don't know what it is.
I can't imagine what it possibly is.
But thank you, WR250, for all that you do for this show.
He can be the GabCast tech advisor for this episode tonight.
Well, it seems he sort of de facto is that.
Let me go into the.
I guess I'm going to have to refresh the Gabcast thread because I don't see the link to that chat room.
Oh, that's a nice George Nori in a two-piece bikini Photoshop.
That's really good.
That's very tragic.
I just, I'm not sure why Rosie O'Donnell.
I'm not sure why Ket Smile cut and pasted the address to the chat room in the chat room.
So if anyone could.
So if you're here and you would like to be here, here's how you get here.
That's going to work out really well for all who click, I'm sure.
Anyway, I think I am getting addicted to those pills because this morning I didn't take any of the pain pills when I started my day.
And I just decided, eh, you know what?
F it.
I'm going to go as long as I can.
And all day long, man, I was just really run down.
And I felt like I'd been fucked by a train all day.
And then just about two hours ago, I went ahead and took him.
Not really in any pain.
They're my last two, as a matter of fact.
Not really in any pain of any specific nature, but I just thought, what the hell?
You know, maybe it'll juice me up a little bit before I do the show.
And it seems to have done the trick.
So the fact that I feel happy and non-suicidal right now probably means I've become addicted to these narcotic pills.
That's crazy.
Usually it takes like seven days or so for me to get the body to physically have an addiction to them.
So I think you're okay.
No, I'm past that point.
Oh, are you?
Yeah, this whole thing is.
Yeah, I'm so fucked.
You guys are going to be seeing me in an alley somewhere with a, you know, I'm going to be twitching and begging people for used partially eaten donuts.
It's going to be a sad scene.
Anyway, if you want to be on the show tonight, what's the number?
I forgot the number.
623-242-2278.
623-242-2278.
I just typed the wrong.
I'm a fucking idiot.
I typed the wrong number in the chat room as I'm sitting here reading it to myself.
623-242-2278.
That is correct, sir.
Okay.
I just typed it wrong again.
Okay, there it is.
623-242-2278.
If you'd like to be on the show tonight, the Gabcast, where we kind of talk about what's happening at Bell Gab and whatever the hell else everybody feels like talking about.
Have you guys been keeping up with the Ferguson thing at all?
Just about 115 miles north of me?
I haven't really been watching too much of it.
I mean, is it like LA Riots bad yet?
It's worse, I think.
Really?
I don't think it's as bad as the L.A. Riots.
I think it seems to be contained, but the media seems to be wanting to make it bigger than what it really is.
Although, I mean, it is pretty horrible.
It was pretty amazing watching CNN and the other news networks last night when there was a huge group of people in the middle of the street and they started volleying the tear gas or the smoke bombs or whatever the hell it was that they were volleying into the crowd and just watching people scatter.
I mean, when I saw that, I think I posted a bellgab saying this is going to get serious or this is going to go off the rails quickly or something like that.
I mean, it was astounding to see that on national TV.
Whereas I don't think the LA riots were televised to that extent.
I don't know.
I could be wrong.
I know they were televised, but because, I mean, we saw that guy, that truck driver get bashed in the head by a couple thugs in the middle of the street.
Yeah.
Reginald in the middle.
Times have changed a little bit.
We live in a 24-7 news cycle now.
More so than we did back then.
And who names their kid Reginald?
Come here, Reginald.
It's time to change your diaper.
Reginald.
Yeah, so if Darren Wilson had learned anything from Reginald Denny, it would have been the step on the fucking gas when Mike Brown came in to beat the shit out of him supposedly while he was sitting in his cop car.
That's what I would have done.
I would have accelerated from a stopped position into movement and then maybe rolled out the window, but I'm not a cop.
That's a good point because I was thinking why if the cop, and I wasn't there and I haven't read the actual transcript that was released from the grand jury, but from what I've heard is he felt in fear of his life and he stepped out of his car and the guy was running away and then he turned around to face him and started coming back towards him.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's just a cop.
Whose story is bullshit?
The cop.
Well, the grand jury didn't seem to agree that it was bullshit.
No, they didn't because they didn't convict him.
I mean, they believed him to a certain extent.
What I've seen indicates that they really didn't do a very sincere effort to indict.
Well, it's not supposed to be an effort to indict.
It's supposed to be an effort to weigh the evidence and decide if anybody should be indicted.
That's the trial.
What they're supposed to do, they're supposed to see...
Indicted means there's going to be a trial.
Is it possible that there's a chance that a crime occurred here?
That's what they're asking.
And I'm not a legal advisor.
All I know is that that cop's story doesn't make any fucking sense to me at all.
I don't know.
I mean, look, I'm usually the first in line to want to disbelieve the police and to want to believe that they didn't behave the way they're supposed to.
Because frankly, I'm not too crazy about cops.
But if there's ever been a poor case in which to highlight that sort of thing, this is it.
I mean, Michael Brown was a piece of shit who goes into stores and bullies people around and steals merchandise using his size to scare people.
He is exactly what causes you to walk to the other side of the sidewalk when you're walking down the street.
He is exactly that guy.
This whole gentle giant thing I thought was a load of shit.
Fuck Michael Brown.
I think that if there's ever been a poor case to highlight police brutality and the overreach of police authority, this was a poor case.
I mean, there are plenty of great cases that you could cite to illustrate bad police tactics.
There was a shooting here in the Dayton area where a guy, a black guy, was in Walmart walking around with a BB gun in his hand.
And someone called the police and said, there's a black guy with a BB gun in his hand.
Or with, I don't know, they called the cops and said, like, there's a guy with a gun walking around in here.
And the cops just showed up and just blew him away.
Well, there's got to be more to it than that, though.
I mean, they just walked through the door and said, there he is, shoot him.
I mean, I can't believe that.
I'm not really up to speed on that.
It is sort of relevant.
That is basically what happened.
Now, I don't know.
There's some question as to whether the cops told him to drop the weapon before they shot him.
The attorney general in the Ohio State Attorney General is not releasing video or any evidence, which I think is smart.
But, you know, so it's basically at this point, we're just, it's the cops' word versus the.
You know how easy it would be for a police officer to say things that might not have happened, to create a story around possibly the evidence or, you know, because they do this day in and day out, and they know what to say.
They know what juries like to hear.
They know what works.
I'm sure it happens all the time.
And I'm sure it does too.
So it's easy to disbelieve the cops, but I mean, I don't know what the hell happened there.
But it's just, I think it's tragic that I'm role-playing.
Well, just some role-playing.
Hold on, what's tragic?
That people have to feel like they need to turn to violence and burn their own city down because of something they disagree with either politically or maybe, you know, I bet you most of these thugs aren't even thinking in a political nature.
They just think, hey, the cops are busy with something else.
Let's go fuck shit up.
They're just fucking mad.
They want to fuck shit up.
They might not even be from Ferguson.
Some of them probably aren't.
Professional agitators.
That's racist, Jasmund.
I don't know why you're.
This is not that kind of show.
I just think I think Michael Brown was a piece of shit, and I don't care at all that he's dead.
And I think that when the cops tell you to stop, you stop.
Yeah, but that's not grounds to shoot somebody.
Well, but it is grounds to create the circumstances in which an escalation of force can occur.
If you're not an idiot, you'll stop when the cops tell you to stop.
You get off the street if they tell you to get off the street.
I mean, people need to learn how the legal system works.
And when you just blatantly flagrantly disobey what the police are telling you in that moment, just make life easier for yourself and do what they're telling you.
And if you have to, deal with it in a court of law.
But people who are stupid and uneducated don't understand that.
They just think, oh, fuck this.
I'm going to do it.
Yeah, well, clearly, Mike Brown was no fucking angel.
He stole shit from that store and he intimidated that the, I don't know if it was a clerk or the owner or whatever, but it was definitely like, hey, I'm going to beat your ass if you don't get the fuck away from me.
But honestly, like if you're a cop, if you're in your car and some guy comes up to your car and starts wailing on you, or if you're even under the impression that someone's a threat and they start approaching your vehicle, what are you going to do?
Raise your window, get the fuck out of there.
Catchmile, I did not say do what cops say or die.
That's absolutely not what I said.
What I said is if the cops tell you to get off the road, get off the road.
And if the cops tell you to sit down in the car, sit down in the car.
Just deal with the situation in the moment.
Cops don't have absolute power to tell us what to do.
That's not, I'm not suggesting that they do, but there are procedures and ways things are handled.
And if you want to escalate things, then fine.
Escalate them and then wind up dead, whether it's correct or not that you should wind up dead.
That's on a situational basis.
But look, I mean, the fact of the matter is it seems pretty clear that he charged at the cop.
And that seems to be conveniently omitted frequently whenever people are talking.
I saw this one state representative from the St. Louis area talking about Michael Brown was kneeled down the street and killed execution style.
This is a government official.
This is an elected government official saying that he making it sound like Michael Brown was ordered to kneel down in the middle of the street and the cop walked up, put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger.
I don't know anyone who says that that's at all what happened.
I mean, he charged at the cop.
Every report I've seen, even from people who were there and lied in front of the cameras and then told the truth when they thought they weren't being recorded, every one of those reports seems to indicate that he got into a scuffle with a cop inside the car.
Then he left the car, ran down the street.
The cop got out of the car.
And this was after two shots had already been discharged in the car.
Maybe or maybe not because Michael Brown was trying to get the cop's gun away from him.
I don't know the specifics of what happened there.
But obviously something happened in that car.
And I can assure you the cop didn't just suddenly go back shit and start beating this guy up in the middle of a squad car for no.
No.
There's no possibility that that's how that went down.
Michael Brown did something to escalate that.
Then he gets out of the car, starts running away from the car.
The cop orders him to turn around, and he turns around and says, what, are you going to shoot me?
You going to shoot me?
And starts charging at the cop.
Hey, guess what?
You got what you fucking had coming to you whenever you do that.
That's my feeling on it.
Well, you know, work within the confines of this.
Well, it probably isn't, but I mean, there are a lot of people who have decided to everyone has taken sides on this matter, none of whom have a full scope and picture of what it is exactly that happened.
I think the right, the right, the thing, what he should have done, I'm sure this is probably at the procedure, is to get the fuck away from this guy, wait for backup, and then take him down.
But I mean, if the guy's leaning in the window, the cop didn't have a taser.
He didn't have pepper spray.
He didn't roll up the window.
He couldn't.
I mean, how do you go from some dude leaning in the window wailing on you to the guy's now 100 yards, 100 feet away, and you've shot him six times?
And I think probably the only reason that he didn't shoot Michael Brown in the back is because Darren Wilson is not a very good shot.
Because he discharged 12 rounds.
Only six actually hit the mark.
Well, when you're in the middle of a situation like that, it's pretty hard to be accurate.
You know, like people walking around with concealed carry thinking that if all hell breaks loose, well, I got my protection.
I know what I'm going to do.
That line of thinking comes from a position of utter and complete ignorance because what they're going to do is go ahead.
Well, I was just going to say, you can't know in the middle of a real situation how you're going to perform when you're firing a weapon.
Yeah, and you're going to end up shooting by the person you're aiming at and hit a civilian and kill them, and then you're going to jail for manslaughter or first degree murder.
Well, no, so if this had happened to any one of us, if we had been sitting in a car and some guy who was unarmed just came up and started wailing on us, if the first thing that we had done was pull out our weapon and shoot him, we would be going to jail because that's a last resort.
Unless you're in Florida.
And you have to feel like you're in imminent danger.
There's a threat to your life in order to use deadly force.
No, the police would have said, why didn't you drive away?
Why didn't you roll up your window?
Cat Smile says Brown may have earned his death.
Who knows?
But cops almost always get the benefit of the doubt.
And I agree with that.
I think that's wrong.
I think cops should be assumed to have behaved inappropriately until proven otherwise.
And I think in the Michael Brown case, to my satisfaction, it's been proven otherwise.
I mean, initially, we were all told that he was shot with his hands up.
Well, that turned out to be a load of shit.
And then we found out that he went in and robbed a liquor store or something just moments before, which is why supposedly the cops were in the area to begin with.
Well, we weren't supposed to know about that.
That was unfair for that information to be released into the public consciousness because that taints his image as a human being.
We're supposed to focus.
Well, no, I think it is relevant to the broader picture of things that just moments before he got his face blasted off, he was robbing a liquor store.
I mean, I think that paints a broader picture of his overall character, and it gives a somewhat better indication as to just what kind of interaction he may have had with the police when they came around.
But you also have to realize that some of these communities are brought up hating the police because they feel like they're being treated unfairly, feel like they're being marginalized.
And I mean, let's face it, minorities are pulled over much more often than white people are.
So, I mean, this distrust of the police, this is the outcome.
I mean, people don't obey police orders and they, you know, they say, what the fuck are you going to do about it?
Well, he found out what's going to happen when you disobey the police and you charge him and all that.
I still don't think that it's the police might is not telling the whole truth here because he can fashion a story around whatever he wants.
Have you seen the photographs of the guy of Darren Wilson at the hospital right after the event?
I saw a couple.
No.
I mean, it's like you're telling me he got his ass kicked.
I'm like, I don't see any marks on this guy.
I've had my, I've been in fights, man.
I look much worse than that motherfucker.
Pussy.
Well, you don't know what the other guy looked like.
Douche nozzle.
He probably had a grin of satisfaction on his face.
Am I right?
Do cop cars have cameras on them?
Yeah.
Most of them do.
Except I don't think he's dead.
I cannot believe that in 2014 there is a cop car anywhere in the United States that doesn't have a camera.
That is, to me, I mean, you telling me that with the entire budget of a municipality, you couldn't set aside a few bucks for a fucking GoPro?
Yep.
Well, why don't the cops themselves wear a GoPro or something?
That too, yeah.
I mean, how much is a GoPro?
Like $100?
Yeah.
Some cops do have the cameras up on their lapels or whatever.
If I were a cop, I would be wearing one of those that I purchased with my own money if the department didn't pay for it.
Yeah.
Yeah, for their own.
I'm betting that a GoPro costs less money than it costs to rebuild a town.
Well, see, that's where you're wrong, B-Dub.
did some research and uh it's gonna cost exactly 76 dollars and 42 cents to rebuild ferguson so uh your math is very affordable you know whoever was talking about the race angle i mean you're i guess that was eddie You're totally right.
I mean, it wasn't very long ago.
There's a huge history of racial problems between blacks and the police in the St. Louis area.
As a matter of fact, in the early 1900s, what these cracker asshole cops used to do was they would ride throughout East St. Louis just randomly shooting their guns off in black neighborhoods.
And the blacks got sick and tired of it and finally decided a bunch of young black guys got together and decided they were going to do something about it.
And so they fired back.
And one of these cracker asshole detectives got himself killed in the midst of all of this.
And that started a big, huge race riot.
I think most of East St. Louis burned down.
What happened after that cop was shot, and deservedly so, mind you, the cops started cracking down really hard and going from door to door, essentially abridging the rights, the constitutional rights of every single person in that area.
And most of East St. Louis burned to the ground.
I mean, if you go to East St. Louis, supposedly, if you go to East St. Louis today, it's pretty hard to find structures that survived that period of time because of this fire.
It was so broad in scope.
And so there's a huge history in the St. Louis area of racial problems between blacks and the police.
But even beyond that, anyone who's going to say to you that blacks don't have a reason to look over their shoulder with a raised eyebrow when a cruiser comes rolling up behind them, anyone who would say that is crazy.
If I were black, I would totally, I mean, I would in no way believe that the cops are there to do me a favor anytime, ever, at any point, whatsoever.
I mean, you're not going to just flip a switch and turn all those decades of history off, and people are just going to forget about that.
We've got a huge history of racial problems with the police in this country.
Deep-seated rage, and that's what happens is towns burn.
Aldous in the chat room says Cracker Asshole Cop Association or Kaka.
That works.
That works.
Yeah, I mean, there are two sides to this.
I mean, obviously, I think blacks are well-founded in having reservations when it comes to trusting the police.
But this Michael Brown situation, I don't, I just, at the bottom line, I don't feel like this is the best case in the world to put the spotlight on police brutality or overreach.
I just don't.
Seriously, did Darren Wilson not have a taser?
I don't know.
I don't have a taser.
I don't know, but I mean, I also don't know what the proper situation is and which one someone would use one of those.
I don't know what the training is.
Like, if X, Y, or Z happens, pull your taser. If ABC happens, pull your...
I have no idea.
It all depends on use of force, like what the other guy's doing.
So if you think you need to protect yourself with lethal force, then you're going to do that.
Question is, did he need to use lethal force?
Well, apparently the grand jury answered that question.
Exactly.
But you know what?
This grand jury decision doesn't mean that this cop isn't going to be sued in civil court or that there might not be federal charges.
Well, I don't know about the federal charges, but I mean, there could be civil.
I'm sure the family is going to sue for wrongful death.
The city and possibly even the cop personally.
But, yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm just looking at Jazz Munda's post where he goes to the trouble of photoshopping a circle around the stain in Falke's shorts in his video.
What is that stain, by the way?
Well, someone below suggests it's a semen stain.
I don't know.
Oh, dear.
I don't think we needed to know that.
Well, I'm just giving you a telling of the facts here, and that's what somebody suggests it is.
I don't necessarily know.
Did you lie to me?
I don't know that to be the case or not.
Are these two incidents related, the Brown case and Falki's stain on his pants?
Thanks, George.
I think some people are not terribly pleased that this Falkey threat has been brought back.
But, you know, the thing was that for a long time, and Falke, I'm sure, has no idea why.
Even now, he doesn't understand why he was banned.
And it was because my philosophy, when he initially started posting on the forum, my philosophy was, okay, if you want to get rid of the flies, get rid of the cow shit.
And so I viewed Falke as the cow shit and the people that were following him around from forum to forum as the flies.
And getting rid of him was a rather surefire way of getting rid of the problem.
But beyond all of that, I felt like I was protecting him from himself because he doesn't seem to understand how it is that people are perceiving him or seeing him.
He doesn't seem to understand that these people that are following him around from forum to forum, they have the potential to really make his life suck, you know?
And so I kind of felt like I was protecting him from himself and from all of that by both banning him and getting rid of all the people that were following him.
And then I found out a week or two ago that he's still making videos on his YouTube channel where he's going on and on and on about Belgab and how upset he is with the forum and how much it sucks and attacking specific people.
And I thought to myself, okay, well, you know, all right, fuck this guy.
I mean, if he wants to be a public figure, if he fancies himself a public figure and he wants that kind of attention, then fine.
I mean, he could have just left well enough alone and gone on about his business making his little YouTube videos.
But I've come to the conclusion that he wants this.
He wants this chaos and this turmoil.
That's right.
There's the thread.
I mean, as long as people keep it contained to the Falke thread, I don't really give a shit.
And frankly, I think Bardell's GIF loops are fucking hilarious.
They really are.
They're so funny.
I don't know what to think.
If I showed one of these Falkey videos to someone who doesn't have any context, like someone who's never used Belgab, doesn't know the first thing about it, has no idea he even exists, knows nothing, doesn't know who George Norrie is, and just showed this to somebody, I have to think that they would just really be puzzled.
I mean, they would just really be doing a sort of a dog staring at a card trick type look as you show that to them.
Yeah.
I would love to see, like, show that to someone who was an MD or some kind of someone that had some real expertise with mental illness just to see if they thought like, oh, yeah, this guy's definitely had a stroke or 12.
I think he's got Asperger's.
Well, he doesn't seem to have any level of self-awareness whatsoever.
No.
None at all.
And that seems to be pretty much the hallmark of Asperger's.
It's just a complete and total inability to understand how it is that others are going to perceive you.
I mean, if I were that old and fat, I would not be sitting in front of a camera like that in a tight, white, stained-up t-shirt that says Iron City beer and what looks to be a safety helmet.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah, he really should just be doing podcasts the traditional way.
Videos don't agree with his body shape.
Well, he'd probably save a small fortune if he just got rid of the camera and video altogether and just did an audio.
But I'm not entirely sure anyone would even listen because they don't seem to be listening.
Well, I mean, his YouTube videos don't seem to have, I mean, a tremendous number of views in the first place.
Tremendous aka any with the exception of Belgab users.
Well, yeah, when he rants about Belgab, then those videos get, I don't know, a couple hundred views maybe, you know, but what does that sound?
I don't know why he keeps doing it.
What is somebody was rubbing?
Somebody was rubbing something.
Is somebody oiling their ass next to the mic?
Falky video.
Well, that's understandable.
I take back my complaints.
Yeah, I don't.
What I don't get is like he's got this forum that would have had.
I tried to sign up to his forum today.
My username is Michael, but supposedly I was banned before I could even make my first post.
So that didn't really work out.
I was hoping I could be of 10 members, I was hoping I could be the seventh moderator.
But that's apparently not going to work out.
And I will never get to post at theguy from Pittsburgh.boardhost.com.
That's really sad.
I wonder if I go there now and I try and log in.
The guy.
We're here for you, MV.
We know you're crushed with disappointment.
You know, I really am, and I don't take your— I can see that you're saying that in jest, and I don't appreciate that because I really am hurt.
I'm going to log in here.
Oh, Christ.
Okay, logged in successfully, redirecting.
Am I banned?
You're banned from this forum.
Please direct any inquiries to the forums administrator at falkey2013 at gmail.com.
How can I be banned?
I haven't even posted yet.
What have I done to be banned for?
He said, that banning is probably the reason that Falky has the stain on his trousers in the first place.
And you know that Falki loved to ban the evil Stalinist owner of Belgab.
RVBT.
It wasn't wanted.
Wasn't there a thing where if you wrote MV on his message board, it changed the words to something else?
Yeah, yeah.
And what were those words?
I can't remember.
I don't know.
Sphinter.
Are there any words that just naturally have the letters M and V next to one another?
I'm trying to think.
I doubt it.
Because that word would not be allowed.
Or it would be like it would insert the word butt pirate or whatever it's replacing MV with in the middle of a real word.
In the middle of a legit word.
Good point.
Shut up, George.
Fucking asshole.
Fucking.
Jeez.
Yeah.
It seems like I'm throwing everybody off of this soundboard.
Ah, Humvee.
Bring it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
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Let's see what's going on in the forum here.
Unless you guys have something you want to talk about.
Really?
Oh, dear.
The three of you?
I'll just sit here and talk for an hour and a half while you guys listen to me.
You can be like a sit-in audience.
You have privileges beyond the regular audience and that you get to listen to me do the show through mumble.
The audio quality is so much better listening that way.
Well, it looks like most of the people who most people were able to find the find the chat room, the temporary chat room.
Let's see how many listeners are listening to this dog shit.
43 people are listening to this dog shit right now.
Can you believe that?
That's almost a record.
Have you guys ever been to a 20-year reunion or any school reunion?
No.
No.
Okay.
Because I had mine the other week.
How many years?
20.
Wow, you really are an old piece of shit.
Yeah.
So you're 38.
That's correct.
Yes.
Wow.
So did you see the girl that you had a crush on that gained 50 pounds and you pretended like you didn't know who she was?
No, but I did see a I did see most of the girls still looked all right.
It was the guys that had put on all the weight and lost all the money.
That must have been disappointing, huh?
Yeah, but I saw this.
I saw a girl that I was actually her first kiss, and I was such an asshole to her.
Like, you know, I'm the guy who she'll always remember as being her first kiss, yet I sort of tossed her away like garbage.
So, and I always felt ba.
Well, I don't know why.
I was a bit of a slut.
I was a bit of a slut in those days.
Ooh, tell us more.
Are you the popular guy at high school?
No, no, no.
I wouldn't say, quite say that.
I wasn't really a geek, but I wasn't, you know, a jock or anything.
I always felt bad about this because she'll always remember me, but she'll remember me as an asshole.
And I don't think I am an asshole.
And I wanted to go up and talk to her, but then I was thinking, do I want to bring, maybe she hasn't even thought of me after all those years, so I don't want to bring up any bad memory, so to speak.
So, yeah, I just wanted to know if you guys had ever been to a reunion and had a similar incident.
I didn't like high school when I was in it, and I don't want to go back and see people that I didn't like or didn't necessarily get along with or talk to when I was a teenager.
So, yeah.
That's kind of how I feel.
I passed on my 20-year-old Yeah, that's kind of how I feel too.
I had a lot of fun in those days, but the fun I had was not at school.
It was what was happening after school with my friends.
But I never really did any sort of extracurricular activities in school.
I just hated the whole thing.
School sucked.
It did.
Fucking blue ass.
Yeah, I fucking hated it.
I had no desire to go back and do it again.
And I don't care to go back and, you know, there is a part of me that would like to go back and see how fat and unfuckable all of the girls are now who, at the time, wouldn't fuck me.
But other than that, I really see nothing to gain from it.
And I additionally feel like, hey, you know, we didn't keep in touch all these years.
Why now?
Yeah, really.
Who gives a shit?
You don't care about me.
I don't care about you.
I've had a few run-ins with people like that recently, particularly with Facebook, which I hardly ever use, but there have been several instances where people that I haven't had any contact with in a long time get a hold of me on there.
And I just sort of, it's a big shoulder shrug for me because obviously either you didn't like me well enough or I didn't like you well enough for us to maintain any sort of a friendship.
So I don't know.
What do you want?
Fuck you.
Leave me alone.
Obviously, I'm not going to loan you money.
No, you can't stay at my house.
I'm a married man with a wife and child.
You can't sleep on the couch.
Sorry things aren't working out for you.
Maybe if you'd asked me 15 years ago, personally?
You went to high school with Fauci?
Didn't he graduate in like ought three?
Ought three.
1903.
He's really old.
That's all I know.
Indeed.
I wonder if he was always like, I don't know.
I just kind of wonder if he was always the way he is.
Just sort of weird and clumsy and a sort of, I don't know, man.
I just, when I look at those videos, I just feel like I'm looking at a hoarder house and I feel like I know exactly how that house smells without even being in it.
I think that's the reason for the box fans.
I'll bet you that house smells like cat piss and just mold.
And I'll bet you it's awful.
It reminds me of this one house I went into.
My God, this was years ago.
I had a buddy who was kind of homeless.
And so he was staying with a friend of his.
And this friend owned a house that was, it was far and away the most disgusting home I've ever seen.
There was animal piss everywhere.
Every square inch of every piece of carpeting in that home had at some point been pissed on by an animal.
The carpet was so dirty that as you were standing, and it was, to make matters worse, it was like this late 70s green carpet.
You know, it was just, it was horrible.
You would shag stuff?
It was a carpet.
Well, if it was shag, it had been so matted down over the years that it no longer looked like shag.
So maybe it was shag.
I mean, I'm inclined when I say 1970s and green, the inclination to say shag is there, but it just, I don't recall it being shag.
But yeah, maybe it was.
But as you would stand there, if you would stand in one spot for too long, as you would lift your feet up, the soles of your shoes would be stuck to the carpeting.
I fucking did you not.
It was sick.
It was the air was utterly and completely unbreathable.
This is the type of place where if you were to spend any length of time in this home, you're going to have some respiratory issues.
I mean, it was, I'm not just, I'm not exaggerating for the purpose of telling a good story here.
I mean, it literally was so bad that it would be harmful to your health to be in this home for any amount of time.
And I don't know why it was, but while we were there, I had to walk into the kitchen for some reason, for some fucking ungodly reason.
I ventured beyond the two square feet of space that I actually felt modestly comfortable in.
I walk into the kitchen, and as I round the corner, I look at the refrigerator, and there is an entire family of cockroaches just crawling up the surface, the front of this refrigerator.
This is in the, keep in mind, this is in the middle of the day when you normally don't see cockroaches.
Nothing has happened to scatter them or scare them or cause them to come out of their little holes and run about the place.
This is just me randomly walking around the corner.
I take a look and I see the refrigerator.
There's an entire colony of cockroaches just crawling up the front of this fucking thing.
This house is hoarded.
There's shit everywhere.
This guy has saved every single piece of tangible anything that he's ever acquired over the last 40 years.
It's just, and that's what I imagine as I'm watching these Falkey videos.
The guy even kind of looked like Falkey, actually, now that I think back on it.
It's just that the fuck.
That's this lack of self-awareness I'm talking to you about.
I mean, like, any normal person who would film those videos would be able to think to themselves, hey, if I set this up as the angle that I'm filming myself from, perhaps people are going to think that this is an episode of Hoarders.
Because that's what it fucking looks like.
It looks like it's a hoarded house.
And I, I, beyond all the, yeah, fuck Belgab and all that stuff, beyond all of that, just, I hate hoarders.
I just hate those people.
I'm addicted to watching that show Hoarders, and they get these people, they've never thrown anything away.
Some of these people are saving their own shit in jars and bags.
I mean, you'll have to go into, I've seen episodes where routinely there are episodes where they'll go into the bathroom and there will literally be a mountain of used, shitty, feces-filled adult diapers in the bathroom three feet high.
Haven't thrown a single one of them away for years.
And a crew of human beings has to come in there and clean that shit out.
Literally, clean that shit out.
This is why God gave us arson.
That's really the truth.
Some of these houses would be far better off just burned down.
With the owner inside, frankly, if I were given an option or any form of say in the matter.
And I get so sick of the sympathy.
Oh, you know, you've got a problem, and we're going to work through that.
My name is Dr. Suzanne Chabot.
I'm here to talk to these people about their problems.
and I'm going to get them to stop being hoarders.
Do you think that ever works?
Well, here's what I think it comes down to.
Beyond Dr. Suzanne Chabot and the help she's going to give to these people.
All the lovely jewelry that she wears and a nice hair and everything.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
No, yeah, I know the archetype.
I get the feeling I'm the only person here who watches hoarders, but yeah, you are the only person.
I am so fucking addicted to this show.
That show is nasty.
It's like watching a car accident.
You just can't look away.
That's how I feel as I watch this show.
But they talk about these people like they're going to take a therapeutic approach to this because these people are sick.
And yeah, okay, maybe there is a sickness there.
But I think, by and large, these are just greedy fucking people.
I think that because they'll hoard their entire families out of the house to the point where nobody even has anywhere to lay down because this person, this fucking hoarder, has decided that all of this shit that they're moving into their house is infinitely more important than their family having a place to sit down and eat a meal or sleep or invite friends over.
Their family can't have any friends over.
They show these kids that have lived their entire lives, never had a single friend over to the house because it's just too fucking embarrassing.
Or, you know, child protective services might get called if anyone from outside the family comes in and sees all of this.
So but these people are just, I think it's just all rooted in greed, really.
I need more stuff.
Give me stuff.
These are my things.
I'm keeping my things.
I don't care what anyone says.
It's my stuff.
Just greedy fucks.
Yeah.
Why is that?
They go to garage sales and buy more shit.
And they go to the dollar store and buy multiple items of the same thing and just pile it up.
They do.
I've seen some of those houses that the shit is piled up all the way to almost to the ceiling and they have to crawl over shit to get through the room.
So I don't know.
Have you seen American Pickers?
Yeah.
Is that the one where the two guys that drive around and buy shit in that van?
Yeah.
So those are the people that they typically call on are usually hoarders, but they're maybe a little bit not quite as disgusting as some of the people that MV is talking about.
At least that I can, that I've seen.
But like when you've got like a barn just filled with stuff to the point where you can't even like walk in, there's nothing as sorted or there's no order to anything.
And they act like that's their collection.
It's like, no, that's just where you dump shit that you fucking buy compulsively.
And 90% of it is totally fucking worthless.
But then here they have two guys that are like, yeah, I'll give you money for that.
And they're like, no, no.
This one's got an important memory for me.
Nope, no, no, no, no.
No, can't, no, can't do that.
No.
And some of these people, they spend their entire life savings paying for, in some cases, over 15 or 20 different storage units to hold all of their shit in addition to all of the worthless dog shit that they're saving in their house.
So they'll have these people.
I mean, they'll have these people who are literally on the brink of being homeless because they're spending all of their available cash every month in order to maintain 15 or 20 storage units.
And even with everyone there telling them, hey, we got to get these cleaned out.
You're going to be homeless.
We've got to get these cleaned out.
We're here to help.
You're going to be homeless.
They just still don't get it.
They just don't care.
Fuck these people.
I saw an episode once where they actually had a whole nother house filled with stuff that they had to move out because of it and were now living somewhere else that they were also piling up with shit.
Well, but there's a worse show.
Have you ever seen My Strange Addiction?
I've seen some episodes.
I started to watch that actually, and I thought that that show was going to be right up my alley.
But, you know, I'm getting just tired of everybody wearing their personal ailments, their afflictions, their problems on their sleeve, like some sort of a badge of honor.
Like, if you went back 50 years ago, people used to shut up about their personal problems and their afflictions and the things that were wrong with them.
But now things have changed in such a way that, oh, I need everyone to know I'm ADD.
Oh, I need everybody to know that I have postpartum depression.
I need everybody to know that I have whatever.
People are using their afflictions as some sort of a badge of honor to say, oh, look at me.
I'm different or I'm special in some way.
And I've just gotten so tired of that.
I've just gotten so tired of that that I can't bring myself to watch shows like My Strange Addiction or whatever the hell that thing is called.
What was it called?
Yeah, I think that's what it was.
Okay.
I think the first episode of some bitch who likes to eat baby powder.
Yeah.
She snorts at herself.
There was a woman who ate diapers, and there was a guy who had sex with his car.
Well, I don't really see the problem there.
I mean, you know, I don't know why you guys are so judgmental.
Let the man have his fun with his car.
BW sent over this article about some Roswell UFO researcher claims to have a picture of aliens.
I think.
Yes.
What's the gist here?
I haven't.
Roswell researcher and author Tom Kerry told the crowd at American University yesterday that he has the smoking gun to prove once and for all aliens are real.
According to an article by WTOP in Washington, Kerry claims to have a picture of an alien but did not have the picture with him.
You know what?
I forgot that.
If you guys, you guys all just stay here.
I realize the crowd permit is only for one day, but I will be back before the permit expires.
What the fuck?
Yeah, it's he told the crowd that the images are on code-chrome collar slides.
Hello, 1957.
And that their research on the legitimacy of the slides has been promising.
So promising that he forgot to bring them.
That's, you know, I don't believe that we're being visited by aliens.
I really don't.
I mean, I do believe there's life out there, but I think people like Stanton Friedman, any of these people that have dedicated their entire lives to ufology, I feel like they've wasted their lives.
Well, you might say that, but the real reason Stanton Friedman does it is for the money and the praise.
I saw a documentary about Stanton Friedman called Stanton Friedman is the real or something like that.
And basically, they go back to when he was in high school and they're talking about how he was in this play and he had such a great time, great experience.
And then here he is years later and he's working as a physicist, probably making a pretty good living, but not like crazy money.
And he gets out of the blue an invitation to go on a radio show and talk about UFOs.
And this is someone who's never seen anything or claimed to have seen anything.
Why he's so invested in the UFO fucking story, I don't understand.
He claims never to have seen a UFO.
No.
So he goes and does the show, and they pay him several hundred dollars for like an hour's work.
And he was like, really?
And so that's, and that's pretty much where that all started, his whole UFOs.
It's so yesteryear.
I remember in the early 90s when I was like 10, 11 years old, and UFOs at that time were all the rage.
Call 1-800-909-UFO.
That's 1-800-909-UFO.
And hear the real-world account of Samantha Jackson and what happened to her in a cornfield while her uncle was inside bathing himself.
You know, it was everywhere you looked, UFOs were everywhere.
Everybody gave a shit.
This would be a great time to ask people in the chat room to call in with their UFO story.
I mean, I have seen things, but I don't, I can't make that connection to say, yes, that means people from other worlds are visiting our planet.
I mean, if, I mean, yeah, there could be other forms of travel that we have no concept of.
But to our knowledge, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
And even at the speed of light, aren't you like eight years away from our furthest star, our closest star?
Isn't that like eight light years away?
So if you can find some way to travel at the speed of light, you better grab a few glasses of lemonade because even then, you're still going to be...
It's going to take a while.
Do you have a Nintendo DS?
You could play Tetris.
Michael, 100 years ago, 150 years ago, if you had told someone that rocks could fall out of the sky, they would have been like, you're fucking crazy.
But we all know that happens.
They're called meteorites.
People didn't just discover those 150 years ago, did they?
We've known about those since the beginning of humankind, haven't we?
Speak to the dinosaurs.
They may not have realized what the hell they were.
They saw a shooting star.
Did they really know what the hell was causing that?
Did the average person know that?
Yeah.
150 years ago, people would have been like, powered flight is impossible.
Man can't fly.
Yeah, I get that.
That's what Orville and Wilbur Wright's father told him.
Well, they should have listened to their dad instead of getting out there and getting all uppity, trying to make their flying contraptions.
That's the natural order of things.
So I think there's probably, given the fact that we've only been actively engaged in science for like 150 years in the empirical process and our physics, it's kind of...
You okay there?
We're going to need a pretty big leap in technology to sort of achieve those distances.
Yeah we're, we're at the beginning stage, excuse me.
Well, we are, we are able to.
What is it?
It's quantum.
When you're able to affect one atom by manipulating another atom in an entirely different area, an entire action over a distance yeah, that's.
I mean, that probably indicates that there's some form of travel, that we have no concept of that.
That seems to me to indicate that.
But what is it?
I don't know.
When will we have access to it?
If we ever do, I have no clue.
And beyond all of that, where's the proof?
Where's, I mean, I don't see any proof at all that we're being visited by aliens.
None.
I mean, I see pictures, okay.
I see videos, okay.
I mean, anyone who wants to, whatever you do, don't mention Billy Meyer in the course of trying to convince me that UFOs are real.
I mean, because I will shit in your face.
What about Whitley?
I would pay money to see that.
I will literally grab you by the ears, plant the back of your head on the ground as I squat and strain.
That's a lovely thought.
Well, just don't mention Billy Meyer.
That won't happen to you.
That's all you got to do.
I've never thought that Billy Meyer's stories were particularly persuasive.
You didn't, huh?
No.
Are you familiar with the Trumbull County sighting from the mid-90s?
Where the cops are following the object and they're radioing to one another as they see it.
Yeah.
I mean, that is interesting, but it doesn't prove that we're being visited by beings from a foreign world.
Yeah, well, proof that we're being visited.
I mean, that's what basically what you're asking for is like an alien taint.
I mean, you have to have hard evidence to prove something like that.
Alien taint, did you say?
Yeah, some sort of alien artifact.
Oh.
Just a taint being one example.
I was going to say, that'd make a great band name.
Thank you, Cleveland.
We are alien taint.
Thank you.
Nothing?
Okay.
But there are lots of sightings out there that are very many interesting things.
Yeah, there's no proof out there.
Yeah, I don't think there is either.
And I think that if an alien culture has the ability to travel here, that means that they are advanced technologically beyond our wildest imaginations.
And we should be utterly and completely uninteresting to them on every level.
Oh, yay, another carbon-based life form.
Go fuck yourself.
That should be their attitude.
If they have that type of technology, because that means they're not even traveling at the speed of light.
They are like warping from one location to another.
They're like folding space and making the two points touch one another in order to get where they want to be.
They're doing something crazy like that.
So they shouldn't care at all about us.
We're not that.
I think that's kind of a conceited notion to think that they would come here to see us.
Who gives a fuck about us?
And if they did come here and if they weren't totally disinterested in us and they were actually observing us, they would have the technology for us not to even see them.
We wouldn't even know they were here if they were observing us.
But it seems like they wouldn't half-ass use that technology to hide themselves.
They would either use it or not.
And based on all the sightings that occur that are supposedly proof of alien interaction or interference or intervention or visitation, it seems to me they're not doing a very good job of using their cloaking technology.
Either use it or don't.
Which is it?
I mean, do you want to be seen or don't you?
Which is it?
I don't know.
Whenever I see someone, ufologist John Jackson says, right away, I just think to myself, you can replace the term, the title ufologist with man who wasted his entire life professionally, Jack Johnson says, blah, blah.
That's.
Well, so, I mean, you're certainly not doing ufology as a career.
It's probably a sideline, but, like.
I think they're mowing the yards?
It's most like you have to, in order to get that title, that you have to have any, you've done any great work.
It's anybody in the fucking, for no reason, can become a fucking ufologist.
Right.
What do you do?
I'm a ufologist.
What do you think about them apples?
None of those people, usually none of those people have any kind of training in terms of like scientific theory or how to conduct science.
Stan Friedman has an MS in physics or something, but a lot of the stuff that he claims is not proof.
He acts like Roswell's a slam dunk, and I'm more increasingly convinced it's just a giant cluster fuck.
But we haven't had any calls.
Where are our calls?
Well, maybe the show sucks so badly that people don't want to be a part of it, or the show is so good and so entertaining that people are afraid that by calling they won't be contributing anything because it's already so amazing.
One of those two is the case.
45 listeners.
See, I don't understand that.
Why do so many people want to hear this show?
Well, Redacted's made a very astute observation in the chat room.
What's up?
Carbon-based life forms love to fuck.
So yeah.
Golly.
I don't.
That's a shame.
Because I only like to have sex with silicon-based life forms.
I've made my wife agree to just date all of our children in test tubes and whatnot.
I've evolved beyond having sex.
I think it's an outmoded way of reproducing.
So yeah, if you want to be on the show, there is a phone number, and that would be 623-242-CAST.
623-242-CAST.
Anything that you'd like to talk about?
It could be something about Bell Gab.
It could be something about what's in the news.
It could be an art bell-ish-type subject that people find interesting.
I'm just sort of poking around on the forum here to see if there's anything interesting that I could bring to the show.
What was your favorite art bell subject?
Ghosts.
August.
Ghost, yeah.
By far.
I thought the GIS were far and away my favorite guests.
Did you find them credible?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I mean, a lot of people would say, well, how is it that you poo-poo the alien visitation thing, but you're all on board with the ghosts thing?
But, you know, I have actually taken a microphone and done the EVP thing myself.
That's something that I can repeat.
I can do it on my own.
I don't just have to take somebody's word for it.
Are they ghosts or is it pareidola?
I don't know.
Well, it's not the Abraham Lincoln cloud effect.
I mean, there have been several instances where I've recorded audio that definitely was the result of it.
It's definitely an intelligent communication of some kind.
What it is, I don't know.
That's where I sort of draw the line.
I don't want to draw the conclusion that, yeah, that's ghosts.
I don't know.
But there's definitely something there that shouldn't be.
Hi, you're on the air.
Hello.
Hey, guys.
How's it going?
Is this, let me guess who this is.
let me guess who this is this is this is e-i-e-i-no No.
Okay.
I've got metal lost.
Is this redacted?
It is.
Yeah, well, you always call.
We knew it was you.
I know.
I always call.
So, okay, go back to the UFO thing because I have to ask this question.
All right, so UFOs are kind of boring and kind of these guys are full of crap.
Okay, two words.
Travis Walton.
Well, that's the fire in the sky guy.
Yeah.
He just had a story that's one man's.
Does he have any evidence or proof?
Well, I would like to add something.
Okay, so they say if you go into outer space, there's certain radiation signature imprinted on your cells.
And Travis Walton had those radiation signatures in him.
So I don't know.
I don't know if it's true.
I don't know anything about it.
I have no opinion, but it's interesting and explain that away.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know the I don't know who made that determination.
I don't know anything about it.
I can't explain it away.
But I mean, why didn't he come back with like a t-shirt or something?
Like an alien remote control or something?
Yeah.
Alien cell phone, something.
I mean, to my knowledge.
The only thing I can see that's provable is that he went missing and that he turned up naked in a phone booth somewhere.
I mean, that's really all that's provable.
Although the guys he was with, they all passed the lie detector test except for one, and he was inconclusive.
I've heard different stories about that.
Oh, really?
Please tell.
I believe there's a skeptoid analyst analysis of the Travis Walton story.
But I've heard that they didn't exactly pass the lie detector tests with flying colors.
Oh, really?
Some ufologists will tell you they did, and others will say that's bullshit.
They fucking.
Yeah.
So, and I've heard that when they were asked what happened, that one, basically it was like one guy said, oh, yeah, we were abducted.
He was abducted by aliens, and someone else was like, well, the contract for this lumber, the contract is due, and we're not even halfway done with our work.
So we're basically in breach of contract, and we're just trying to get out of it.
I don't know.
So redacted, you believe the story then, huh?
No, but I've talked to Travis Walton before, and you know that.
I think that's a huge ring of truth to what he says.
I don't know, maybe.
Did he hit on you?
Did he hit on you?
Maybe, but he didn't seem like, he just didn't seem like he was full of crap.
Hey, whoever's on.
I brought in another caller.
If you could turn down your speaker, I'll turn off my radio.
Go ahead.
Who's this?
This is White Kroll.
It's who?
Oh, Ry Crow.
What's going on, man?
Not much going on with me.
Just thought I'd call in and defend all my positions that I take.
As far as UFOs, I was brought up with a family that followed the paranormal throughout their life.
And I believe, if I agree with you, it's all BS.
Everything paranormal is BS.
You don't believe in anything?
No ghosts?
Nothing.
No, nothing.
Nothing at all.
But then what's the paradox is why do we follow Art Dell and all this crap?
Yeah.
Of us.
I've never answered that question myself.
Well, he was kind of skeptical, though.
I mean, I didn't feel like when I was listening to Art, he made the topic interesting, but not in a way that was to suggest, hey, folks, I'm buying this Oakline and Sinker.
But I watch all the crap on TV, the shows on the science channel, or whatever you have, some paranormal stuff.
I watch it.
I used to, back in junior high, and my parents followed this stuff, and they're still into it.
Back in junior high, I'd cut out for current events.
I'd cut out paranormal articles, and now it was my turn to present some.
I'd have some spaceships landing or some crazy article.
The teachers soon figured out not to call on me anymore at all.
I don't know, man.
I mean, I'm sort of, on the one hand, there's a lot of stuff that I just, I'm not buying.
There's the alien thing I'm not buying.
Although I do believe that it's a mathematical certainty that there's life out there elsewhere.
But I just don't think they're visiting us.
But I mean, there's a lot of stuff that I do concede that the universe is pretty vast, and there's a lot of stuff that we can't know, that we don't know, we can't know, we may never know or understand.
I'm inclined to think that there are life, I'm inclined to think that there probably is something going on after we die.
What that is, I don't know, but just the things I've seen, I don't know, I'm kind of inclined to think that there probably is something.
So I guess, I mean, that in itself would be considered a sort of paranormal assertion.
That's about the most paranormal event that happens in our life.
And I won't go into details, but I've had an NDE, and it changed everything that I thought about everything.
Did you overdose?
No.
Oh.
No.
What was it?
It was during a surgery at the hospital, and they were trying to save my life complications with my stomach.
And I remember waking up, and a nurse comes running, and she's asking me, why are you awake?
You're not supposed to be awake and yelling.
She woke up.
She woke up.
And all I remember asking was, where have I been?
Because I just felt like I had been so far away.
And it seemed like I was there for just hours and hours, maybe two days, but they said I was only out for five or six minutes.
Yeah, when I hear people talking about near-death experiences, I want to believe, but at the same time, there's that part of me that says, well, but he didn't really die because you're here talking about it, you know?
There's that little thing that always nags at me.
Little neurons firing at the last minute in my brain.
But I can tell you, there was no light, no tunnel.
It was a completely different experience than what I've read about.
It was nothing like that.
But it was a life-changing experience.
Did not feel like a dream or any drug I've taken.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if you're dying on an operating room table and you have a near-death experience and you float up and you see that everyone's just sort of hanging out playing Jenga?
Just something totally.
Wow, I did not see that coming.
They're playing Jinga.
What were you going to say, Jiazmunda?
No, I was just asking, did you have a traditional out-of-body experience where you did float out of your body, or did you just sort of sense that you had been out for longer than you were?
I didn't have the traditional out-of-body experience.
I just remember my consciousness becoming aware in a completely different environment.
And it felt like I was there for a really long time.
And gosh, I'm going to sound like such a weirdo, but there was something there that I was communicating with.
I can't tell you what it is.
I'm not really a religious person, so I've never had this type of experience before.
So there's really, it's impossible to explain.
So you weren't in the hospital room.
Yeah, you weren't in the hospital.
You weren't in the operating theater with the doctors and all that floating above them.
You were sort of in some nether space.
No, sir.
Yeah, I wasn't sort of floating over my body watching it happen or anything like that.
I was just out from the anesthesia.
And then I remember all of a sudden I'm aware.
And could you be dreaming?
I was working with this something else.
And I was, of course, asking it whatever it was, a hundred questions.
And then all of a sudden, I woke up in my body again.
Did you get any answers?
Freaking out?
Yeah, I got a lot of answers.
What were some of the questions you asked?
Does religion matter?
Do our rules matter?
Okay, well, what was the answer?
What matters?
What was the answer?
The answer I got is kind of poo-poo.
You guys might laugh at me, but the answer I got was: what matters is how we treat every other living creature that we come in contact with.
That's what matters.
I disagree with that entirely.
Universal.
Might you have been dreaming, Redacted?
Pardon?
Well, you could have been just dreaming or in a dream state.
I didn't feel like a dream.
It felt like being awake in another place.
But you were on some pretty heavy meds, though, right?
I was, but they did tell me when I woke up that there were – doctors call it, quote, complications.
Which is code for, you know, we really fucked up.
You just stay in your bed there.
I'm going to tell you how we fucked up while we were chopping on you.
Right.
And I asked, well, how long did the complication last?
And between five and six minutes.
You know, we accidentally left you on the operating table because they were having a barbecue out back.
There's an employee barbecue.
Nobody wanted to miss it.
But once that was over, we got back in here and we took good care of you.
You're going to be fine.
It was a lot of a complication.
I saw white troll here.
I saw a UFO and numerous out-of-body experiences.
Life flash before my eyes.
These are all different experiences.
And I saw, did I mention the white light?
And I've had all those experiences.
Hell is that?
Can you guys hear that noise?
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody.
Hold on, I'm going to remind you.
Okay, it's gone now.
Okay, cool.
I don't discount.
White crow, are you still there?
Yeah.
Okay, go.
Okay, go ahead, Redacted.
I don't discount that it could have been something developed by my own brain because, you know, the brain has how many different, you know, self-protection mechanisms that could be one way to protect our mind.
Or, like I said, it could be just neurons firing crazily at the end, you know, the brain resisting death or something.
I have no idea what the experience was, but it felt very, very real.
So, White Crow, even with all your different experiences, you still don't believe in anything?
I think he's gone.
Yeah, he's gone.
I wanted to ask him if he's seen a ghost.
Well, maybe he'll call back.
If you want to be on the show, the number to call is 623.
I'm doing this by memory.
623-242-CAST.
Is that right?
Correct.
623-242-CAST, if you want to be on the show.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, were there any other?
I mean, that's redacted.
What we really all want to know is why are we here?
What's the purpose of life?
And what is the correct religion?
Is it Mormonism?
What should I be?
There is no correct religion.
They're all bullshit.
White Crow, I don't know what happened there.
I think we lost you.
Or you hung up on us.
One of the two.
One of the two.
Okay.
Well, what I want to know is with all these experiences you've had, White Crow, I just find it odd that you're such a disbeliever.
I mean, what's the story there?
Well, I'm a practicing Catholic, too.
Wow.
You're full of contradictions.
I just, wow.
You got it.
There's no explaining it.
You just, you know, you just.
I almost drowned once and saw the white light and then got to the point of, oh, this is good.
This is really, this is what it's like to die.
And got kinked out of the water by a lifeguard when I was young.
I used to owe the body all the time when I was a kid, floating around.
They went away, but none of these things changed my life.
Hey, whoever's on the phone, if you could turn your radio down, I brought another caller in.
If you could just turn your radio down.
I turn it off right now.
Okay, who's this?
Hi, it's I know.
Who is it?
I know, I know.
I have nothing to say, really, but I'm calling just because.
I guess I should call.
Oh, you're the E-Y-E-N-O, you know, I forget how that's spelled as a.
Oh, I know, I know.
I know, I know.
I had no idea that was a female.
I had no idea whatsoever.
That's really.
i don't believe you actually i think that's a i i just can't believe it Women are using Bellgab.
Oh, absolutely.
Hot women all over the place.
Well, now you got me all working on the bottom.
Maybe she's with the light.
Would you say anything?
No, honestly, though, I have no idea why I am on here on Bellgab.
Really?
I thought you would not be.
No, I've never listened before.
Really?
George Norris?
Oh, no.
So I don't, maybe I shouldn't explode this, but I'm buddy.
I'm housed with Mr. Burbank here.
And so he just texted me that I should call.
So you, but you are a Bellgab?
Your use of the forum then is explicitly because of your relationship with Aldous Burbank, then, right?
Yes, absolutely.
I think you guys are all just wasting my time, but I have plenty of time to waste.
So, I mean, like, do you, even though you're not an Art Bell fan and you have no participation, no history of participation or interest in that whole universe, the Art Bell universe, you still find the forum interesting.
Yeah, you guys are totally entertaining.
I just don't understand.
I'm dumbfounded.
You know, I'm stumped.
Are you on Facebook or anything?
I actually made a joke to one of my friends earlier because I'm like, you know, I don't post too often, but I read you guys those jaunts that you throw up there.
And he's like, what are you doing?
You're like on Facebook.
I don't have a Facebook account that I'm like.
I do, but I'm getting increasingly tired of it.
I'm like, this is my Facebook, I guess.
I've heard other people say that.
There have been people that have said those words almost verbatim that Bell Gab is their Facebook.
Maybe kind of how Facebook took over from my space.
Belgab can take over from Facebook.
So are you in the same part?
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Belgab is overly vicious.
Overly vicious?
How so?
Or just opinionated.
I mean, what's a bunch of negative Nancy?
People are.
You know, like, everybody has something to say, and a lot of times it's buffered just so that, you know, we can all get along.
But I don't know who the crap you guys are.
So, like, what does that matter?
It's better than Facebook because you can say what you're thinking, right?
Well, we're talking about Instagram as cousins.
Why?
Yeah, that's really cool.
Do you live in the same part of the country that Aldous Burbank does?
Is that how you guys know one another?
Yeah, we both live.
So you hang out with him at his mountain compound smoking tie stick, whatever it is you guys do there?
As often as I get the chance, yeah.
I would like to go visit Aldous sometime and smoke pot with him.
Yeah, it's great.
If the opportunity ever.
I'm not sure if he would let me come.
You know, you've got to be really careful meeting people off of the internet.
They're not normal people.
Oh, yeah, you guys are, who knows?
I mean, anyone I meet on the internet, I assume they've got children hanging in their closet or something.
You know, I do, but she asked to be put there.
Well, see, that's.
You shouldn't have said that because now this show's potentially going to wind up being subpoenaed into court.
You really want a court of law listening to this broadcast?
I don't think so.
I don't know.
What are you guys talking about?
Because they shouldn't be listening.
I don't even know.
What are we doing?
Have you ever had any?
It's decriminalized for me.
You've got the medical marijuana certificate?
What'd you do?
Did you scrape your knee and go in there?
You scrape your knee and you just walk in there and tell them how bad it hurts.
And hey, here's your piece of paper.
Yeah, pretty much.
You know, you just go and check in periodically and make sure that you have a new injury or whatever.
What state is that in?
Although I was in California.
I was sorely distraught at the fact that last time I went to renew my recommendation, I asked if I could get a refill on my ibuprofen prescription.
Ibuprofen?
Yeah, well, because I've got like 800 ibuprofen, so you don't have to eat Azil all day long if you're actually sore.
But you're not supposed to need any of that.
You got the pot.
You got the pot paper.
What do you need ibuprofen for?
For sometimes the pot doesn't work.
Oh, I don't believe that.
You know, or like I can't be just like smoking pot and driving around all day, right?
So how is the pot, the medical pot in California versus what you just get off of some dude wearing a trench coat?
I don't know any guys wearing trench coats.
Well, that's the only trading.
Except all the people wear his trench coats.
Our medical marijuana here in California is superior to the medical marijuana in other states.
As far as the illegal sales of marijuana, like for sure it's better.
Because we're the first, you know, when you get it off of the farm, it doesn't get much better than that.
See, where I come from, we don't have this, we don't live in this utopia where you can just walk into a doctor's office and get a prescription for medical marijuana.
So I'm just wondering, what ailment do you have to fake to be able to get one of these prescriptions?
What's the comment?
What do you got me to say about hiding?
I have a girlfriend actually who got a prescription for her anxiety about that she might possibly get herpes because she's overly sexually active and not safe about it.
And so if she has pot, she won't be?
No, then she won't have the anxiety about possibly getting the herpes.
But she'll still be out banging everybody.
Oh, yeah, that's it.
Well, then what's the point?
And she can go horrid.
Because I guess you've got to fake an illness that they're not going to possibly prescribe something else to you.
You've got to have a surefire illness to go in there and they're going to give you pot.
Yeah.
Maybe she's just hoping.
Maybe correct.
I believe that my recommendation is for osteoarthrosis and anxiety.
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the anxiety side of things.
It's been my experience that pot can kind of tend to cause anxiety.
Yeah, but it's also got a basic.
Depending on the pot, I'll tell you what, there is some stuff that I cannot go in the grocery store.
But, you know, like you kind of learn what strains work for.
That is true.
I mean, if you go into one of these pot stores, like in Colorado, wherever they have these places set up, you can sit there and read a long list of the attributes of whatever strain of pot you're about to buy, and you can decide, okay, that's how I want to feel.
I'll take five pounds of that, sir.
Five pounds.
I don't think you could get five pounds.
I think it's an ounce.
You're limited to an ounce, like in Colorado, I believe that's the limit, is an ounce.
Yeah.
Which, if you need more than an ounce, then you got a problem, man.
That's plenty for anybody.
That's plenty for a neighborhood almost.
I will say that the dispensaries in California are.
Hold on, my two-year-old's jumping at me.
There, she needs her cup.
I'd say that the dispensaries in California are definitely better than, like, it was just legalized in Washington.
I don't know how it is in California as far as the dispensaries go, but I went.
You mean Colorado?
To visit, yeah, in Colorado.
I went to visit my dad in Washington and went to the pot store up there.
Is that what they call it?
The pot store?
I'm going to the pot store.
That's what they're calling it in the newspaper.
What time's dinner?
Okay, I'll be back from the pot store before dinner.
What are we eating?
We're eating cotton candy and melted butter again tonight.
Okay.
Because there's nothing to choose from there, basically.
And they don't have any edibles, which is like a big thing as far as actual medical use goes.
Yeah, I'd like to try the THC lollipop.
Yeah, those can be pretty fun.
Yeah, I mean, just walking around sucking on a THC lollipop.
I mean, does life get better than that?
I don't think it does.
Only if you're doing it at Disneyland.
Oh, wow.
The possibilities are endless.
No one is going to haul you out of the crowd and pin you down to the ground and say, give me the lollipop.
That is never going to happen.
No, definitely not.
I got to wonder, though, if you would have pot breath after a THC lollipop.
You think you would?
It sucks when your lollipop gives you cotton mouth.
That would actually be.
That is true.
You would have cotton mouth from a lollipop.
That doesn't make any sense.
That's not a universe I want to live in.
Is the dispensary pot a lot more expensive than you would get, say, like on the street?
I think so.
I would think so, yeah.
I don't know.
I have the only time that I ever bought pot in a store was when I went up to Washington, and I was just so like, I was like, yay, I'm like legally buying pot, you know.
Isn't that something?
I mean, that would just be just the idea of.
I think that's a ridiculous amount of money.
I think I spent maybe like, oh, fuck, I don't remember.
Like $150 on a couple of four grams or something, you know, like a lot.
Well, tell Aldous that one of these days, I will, I should probably, I don't know why I'm having you tell him.
I could just tell him myself.
But one of these days, I would like to book a flight and basically just impose upon his family and eat their food with them and smoke pot on his porch.
Beautiful area.
Okay.
For sure.
Well, thank you for calling.
I'm glad to know that there's actually another real female with a vagina on Bellgab.
I just, that's.
I can't believe that.
Every time, I'm just astonished.
I don't know why.
So the females without vaginas?
Well, I don't know where you come from, but that ain't a female, son.
Okay, well, I think we did a credible show tonight.
I'm satisfied with what we did here.
You guys have anything else you want to throw into the mix of it all before we pull the blog?
I'm sorry.
I'm chewing my nicotine gum as I'm doing a talk show.
I shouldn't be doing that, I know, but I just couldn't take it anymore.
Doesn't matter.
Yeah, I got nothing, man.
Okay.
I'm done.
B-Dub, are you even still here?
I think he had a heart attack about half an hour ago.
That's a shame.
I kind of liked him.
Okay, well, this is the Gabcast.
Thanks to everybody who's been listening, and sorry about the problems with the chat room.
B-Dub says his shit's broke.
I don't know.
From a technical standpoint, I'm not sure what that means.
I think something is defective on his end.
Perhaps next time, that won't be the case.
Because as Gabcast hosts go, I have to say, I think B-dub really is the bee's knees, the cat's pajamas.
It's a shame for him not to have been able to complete the show with us, I have to say.
Okay, I'm starting to.
I'm rambling.
These pills are really.
I just.
Yeah, go to bed.
I think you need to visit a marijuana dispensary.
Well, plane flights are being booked.
Let's just put it that way.
All right, you guys, it's been fun.
Have a good night.
We'll catch you later.
Good night, everybody.
See you guys.
Good night.
See, I don't have the sound bite.
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