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Thank you so much for listening this week.
I'm going to go over all of the news of the week.
I'm going to try to give you perspective on what all the puzzle pieces tell me that has happened this week.
But I want to start in Iran.
We haven't really covered what's going on, and there's some developments there and some good ones, no matter what you might read in the New York Times, which, by the way, It's going to be open phones today, and I'd love to hear your definition of treason.
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Let me go to the Middle East.
I want to bring Jason in on this.
And Jason, I'll come to you as we go here.
But let me start with what's happening in the Middle East.
We are told now by some podcasters, incredibly so, that Trump's ceasefire just doesn't make sense.
Okay, his ceasefire has been expanded for another two weeks.
And I'm trying to understand because at first people were saying, you know, he's going to get us all killed.
He's going to start World War III.
He just wants war.
We're going to send all of these soldiers in.
First, you say no, Trump troops and stop the killing.
And so he doesn't send in troops and he says a ceasefire on all the killing.
And now you say, what are we doing?
You got to, I guess, start the killing again?
I mean, it's almost as if people are hoping for the killing and hoping for destruction.
What's his name?
The wife of.
She asked about Jim Acosta's girlfriend.
Sorry, not wife, girlfriend.
Jim Acosta's girlfriend was in the White House yesterday.
She asked one of the dumbest questions ever of the president.
Listen to this.
Would you use a nuclear weapon against Iran?
You posted on Trump's social.
No, you would.
We don't need it.
Why do I need it?
Why would a stupid question like that be asked?
Why would I use a nuclear weapon when we've totally, in a very conventional way, decimated them without it?
No, I wouldn't use it.
A nuclear weapon should never be allowed to be used by anybody.
Okay.
The guy is terrified of nuclear weapons.
He understands how bad nuclear weapons are.
He doesn't want nuclear weapons.
I mean, it is so very clear.
Why would you ask that?
For the controversy.
I mean, this is the strategy the president is using.
We have told you from the very beginning this is sanctions with teeth.
Everyone said we should do sanctions, more sanctions, right?
That's what everybody has said.
We got to do more sanctions.
Well, sanctions don't work unless they're on steroids and they are a wild animal.
You negotiate.
But you make sure it's real and you stay out of nation building and regime change.
President Trump also extended the Israel Lebanon ceasefire for another three weeks.
He also has three carriers in the region.
He's ordered the Navy to shoot and kill any Iranian boats laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz.
He's made it clear nuclear weapons will never ever be allowed with Iran.
And for the first time in years, bad actors are facing real consequences instead of weakness.
Now, before I get to the New York Times spin, which is incredible, let me give you the truth on what is happening.
And in a minute, I'll show you all the sources behind it, too.
So you can decide.
Iran's economy is collapsing.
Now, would we love to have regime change?
Yes, but we don't want to have troops on the ground.
We don't want to nation build.
We don't want to own it.
So we have to fight this war different than we fought any other war in the Middle East.
He's collapsing the oil economy.
Some say it has.
Days, maybe by this weekend, before it has to shut down their oil wells.
If that happens, it's over for Iran.
They will have no income.
Already, their GDP is down over 40%.
Can you imagine a 40% drop in our GDP since what, the beginning of April?
Their supreme leader is reportedly burned, disfigured, and losing control of his hardline generals, which is not good news, but at least we now know who we're negotiating against.
The parliament speaker, the guy who we were hoping was going to have charge, just quit the negotiating team.
So the regime is cracking and it is going to the hardliners, and it's still talking tough.
The hardliners seem to be in power, but let's wait and see.
This whole thing revolves around oil distribution points.
Donald Trump has said since the early 80s you want to hit them?
You go into Karg Island.
You get their pumps.
You take their oil.
Okay.
Well, that's what we did.
But we didn't take Karg Island.
Normally, we would have bombed it and destroyed it.
But that leaves you in the position again where you have to nation build afterwards because you can't just leave that nation with all those good people, all those Persians and good Iranians, with no food, no way to make any money.
We don't need to occupy or destroy Karg to cripple Iran's oil revenue.
The current playbook, and this was confirmed by the Treasury Department on April 23rd yesterday, is simpler and lower risk.
You naval blockade all of the Iranian ports and the tankers.
Our forces intercept any of these oil tankers that are headed in to take oil on or heading out.
Anything headed toward Karg Island, which is where they fill all of these tankers.
Is not going to be allowed in or out, especially in.
Now, this is already slashed exports from 1.5 to 2 million barrels per day, near zero since mid April.
But oil, you can't stop the pumping of oil.
So, all of the oil from the fields that's being pumped is going into Karg Island's tanks.
But you got to get it off of the island, you got to get it into tankers, and you let physics do the rest, okay?
CARG's onshore storage is about 13 million barrels.
That's spare capacity.
But when we block them in with the blockade, it's filling at about a million barrels per day net.
They say that we're going to hit 13 million barrels, so they'll be out of storage space by April 26th or 27th.
That's some estimates.
Once it's full, this is the key.
Once it's full, they have to shut down the upstream wells.
They have to shut down the oil fields.
Or they have to burn the excess crude, which would be a disaster, but don't put it past the hardliners for doing that.
If they don't do that, there is permanent damage on the well and damage that will take you sometimes six months to a year because.
Pressure builds up and it locks in all kinds of things.
When you turn it back on, you can go from 100 barrels per day to 20 barrels per day because you shut the thing down.
And it's very long term, it costs a lot of money.
It's destruction of those wells without blowing them up.
By the way, according to The Guardian.
Now, Trump and his advisors have repeatedly said that's what they want to do.
Instead of blowing things up and invasion, they want to push them to the brink so.
They're sitting there, and the hardliners are saying, Let it go.
And all of the normal people are saying, You can't.
You'll starve the nation.
Okay.
So, seizing the island means we have casualties, the Iranian retaliation against the Gulf oil structures, and the global price spikes and everything else.
It'd be bad.
Blockades achieve the same cutoff with the ships that are already there, according to Fox News.
Ceasefire was.
Explicitly extended to build this pressure.
April 7th, April 8th, the ceasefire and its extension was not about peace and love.
It was a tactical pause to do a couple of things.
One, find out who we're negotiating with.
Are we with the hardliners or the good guys?
Who is actually in control?
This just flipped now.
Looks like the hardliners are starting to be in control, but we don't know yet because there's another story that is just breaking in the last hour or two.
That it looks like the delegation is going back to Islamabad to actually negotiate this weekend.
We don't know who's in it.
But this keeps the U.S., the blockade, in place.
Iran gets some breathing room on bombing.
We're not killing people and we're not sending troops in.
I thought that was a good thing.
And the economic vice tightens, which I thought is what everybody said.
Even Barack Obama said we should just tighten the sanctions.
Well, we are.
Scott Besant yesterday said, in a matter of days, Karg Island storage will be full and the fragile Iranian oil wells will have to be shut off because they'll be shut in.
That's from India today.
Now, there's a rumor going around today that they are going to set the oil fields, that Iran, the hardliners, will set the oil fields on fire.
They'll just start burning the oil and put up some sort of a smoke screen this weekend.
There's I looked and looked and looked.
There's no credible reporting on this.
There's no confirmation of anybody planning to do that, to burn the crude at Karg or elsewhere this weekend.
That's according to Newsweek.
They verified that there's nothing happening, but you can't put it past the hardliners, okay?
Because they just might do that.
Because what else are they going to do?
And if they believe chaos is the answer, well, then how do you negotiate with people who just want chaos?
And how do you let.
A nation that controls the world's oil supply, if they're that crazy, how do you leave them in charge?
You can't.
Do you see what's happening here?
Do you see what the actual question is?
If they're that crazy, you can't let them have control of the choke point.
It's bad not just for the U.S., it's bad for the entire world.
Plus, by giving this ceasefire a chance, you're letting that pressure work.
So, you're just doing sanctions with teeth.
That's the problem with all the sanctions that we've had.
Nobody believes those sanctions.
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They're like sending a strongly worded letter.
This guy, they at least believe.
Our own press is saying, would you drop a nuclear bomb on them?
Of course not.
But at least if they're thinking that, if our own press is thinking about that, what are they thinking?
So, Iran's actual play is now floating the storage.
They sent out a 30 year old ship, NASA, I think it is, NASA or something.
And they're trying to get it into the port and they're trying to fill that up.
If they can't get it, if we blow up ships or stop their ships, these empty ships, from getting into Karg Island, and we don't let them fill up and relieve that pressure, they have no place to go.
They have no place to go.
Every time they send a ship in, it'll buy an extra couple of days.
It's not a war winning strategy, but it buys a few days.
Survive and delay.
That honestly is the entire strategy of not just Iran, but of NATO, of the WEF, of all of the progressives and the Marxists and the radicals and the Islamists here in America.
Just survive and delay for the next couple of years and let's see if we have another president.
Who is going to go back to the Kamala Harris, Joe Biden kind of ways?
Just survive and delay.
That is the strategy of everyone because his strategy is right.
If we can hold it together, but if we start falling apart, if we start getting weak kneed, they know and they'll just survive and delay.
Do you want to win or not?
That's the question.
Do you want the West to survive or not?
Yesterday, I retweeted something about what Canada has done with all of their energy projects.
They've just gutted all of them.
And I said, You don't have to like Drill Baby Drill, but which one of these is suicidal for a nation?
Which one is going to build the nation into a leader and into a survivable system over the next 20 years, and which one will kill it?
It's very clear.
So you don't have to like it, but.
Which one is suicidal and which one's not?
Here's the thing we are winning the economic attrition battle without needing to storm the island or drop any more bombs, hopefully.
We don't know how this is going to end, but that takes me to what the New York Times printed yesterday.
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Let me bring Jason in because I'd really like your opinion on this one, Jason.
There is a story in the New York Times today.
Iran war has drained U.S. supplies of critical, costly weapons.
The Pentagon's rush to rearm its Middle East forces makes it less ready to confront political adversaries like Russia and China, according to administration and congressional officials.
Now, the administration has not said this, maybe through leaks.
Pentagon is not saying this.
What are people who are saying this are people who are formally in or leaks.
They talk about how we have used all of these missiles, 1,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles, roughly 10 times the number it currently buys every year.
And they're saying that it'll take us four years to, you know, rearm.
Now, there's strategy here that we could talk about, but first I want to get to.
What is the point of that?
Is there no one in the editorial room that says, guys, guys, guys, okay, this might be important, but is it important while we're in the middle of negotiations and in the middle of a war right now?
Is there any way to do this story, but not as a gift to who we're fighting?
Right now, I'm on the air telling you how bad things are, and it's true how bad things are in Iran.
Why would our New York Times get on and tell Iran, yeah, but we're about to run out of all of this stuff?
I mean, it's not treason, but it's bad, isn't it?
Yeah, especially when you compare it to wars that they actually want or champion, like Ukraine.
That was not the leading story for them.
Nope.
We were worried about it.
Yes.
And especially since we did not agree with subsidizing that war, especially when it could have led to World War III.
Correct.
An actual war.
And it wasn't being fought properly.
We were just giving it away.
We were giving all of these things away.
We had no idea where they went.
Some of these things, as we pointed out at the time, were not being used by us or them.
They were being sold on the black market.
How much of those things that we gave to Ukraine were actually sold a second time to people we don't even know who they went to?
We were pointing these things out at the time because it wasn't the United States fighting the war.
We are in an actual war head to head.
Yeah, we were just giving our munitions away, just giving it all to them.
And yeah, in this case, especially as you point out, right as negotiations are going on, there were no negotiations going on in Ukraine.
That was part of one of the issues.
There was no peace plan at all.
Correct.
There is a peace plan, there is turmoil within the Iranian leadership, as you pointed out.
They're at a very critical point.
You run a story like this, but also you don't provide any other context.
Right, I mean, this is an important story.
As we have said in the past, this is an important story, but there's all kinds of context.
And why would you do it when you're negotiating?
What good?
I think people really need to decide which side are you on?
Who do you want to win in the end?
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Linda is calling from Florida.
Hi, Linda.
Welcome to the Glenbeck program.
How can I help you?
Hi.
I'm calling from the Tampa Bay area and I'm calling in regards to the Israel, United States, and Iran war.
Okay.
I was calling.
I know you were more for it or in support of it.
Yeah.
I'm not for it.
I mean, no, nobody's for it.
I didn't mean it like that.
I am.
I look at it and I feel like we're being bamboozled in regards to the United States being told, you know, Iran.
Iran's been two weeks from having, you know, the nuclear power.
I 100% agree with you.
Yeah.
Since the 90s.
I mean, Netanyahu has been saying that since 98.
Yeah.
Well, it wasn't just Israel, it was all of the world's intel.
And I said at the very beginning, don't start with me on they were two weeks away from a nuclear weapon.
I've heard that since.
I've been on the air, I've done this now for 49 years.
So I remember when they first went in, and I remember when we first started hearing about them going after nukes.
So they've been two weeks away forever.
So I'm 100% with you on that.
Doesn't carry a lot of water with me.
Right.
So, how are we, and you are very important in what's going on, the dialogue of the world and what people think.
What would make you think it's different?
Today and in this moment, because as far as you said that the world's intel was claiming, you know, everything was leading that they did have that ability to make nuclear, but how come the NATO powers are totally against this?
Well, the NATO powers, I'm not going to let's not bring NATO in as a credible organization.
But let me go through this with you because thank you for approaching it this way, Linda.
I love having this debate.
And, you know, maybe you'll bring some points out that will change my mind.
But let me just explain how I look at things.
This is, in some ways, and I'm going to be very careful on making sure you understand this this is Israel's war for them.
They believe that Iran is an imminent threat.
If somebody, if Mexico was saying what Iran is saying to us all the time, you know, we're going to wipe you out.
You're going to burn.
Americans are going to burn in the Islamic fury of the fire, everything else.
And they backed it up and they were having.
You know, they were lobbying missiles and having terror strikes all the time in the United States of America.
We would view Mexico exactly the way they're viewing Iran.
That doesn't make it America's war, that makes it Israel's war.
So they have to fight the way they want to fight.
And I give them the right because we would demand that right if it was happening to us this close to us.
Would you agree with that?
Yes and no.
They've been saying that for, they've been, Iran has been saying that for decades.
Right.
No, no, wait, Don't just talk about nukes.
That's why I brought in the terror strikes.
I mean, they are constantly bombing Israel.
They are constantly doing terror strikes.
Just look at this not as Israel.
Look at this as us.
If Canada or Mexico were sending terrorists in and they were blowing people up and schools and school buses and they were killing our people and they did an October 7th on us.
Would you stand for that as an American?
Or would you say, we're going to stop this right now?
I would not stand for it, but I think there's more to it.
All those stories.
There's no but there.
There's no but there.
There's no but.
You wouldn't stand for it.
And anything else from any American is a lie.
If this were, forget about Israel, forget about the Jews and everything else.
If the same thing were happening to us, all of us would say, get them.
So that's Israel's war, and that's their business.
Where the problem becomes is, were they convincing us that that war we should help fight?
And if they were, your problem is not with Israel.
Your problem should be with Donald Trump because that's exactly what Marco Rubio's job is.
Marco Rubio's job is to go in and convince other nations it's in your best interest to go in with war with us.
And it's the right and the responsibility of every other nation to go yes or no.
If we convince you of something that you shouldn't be involved in because it's really in our best interest, that's the fault of their prime minister or their king or their president, not the foreign leaders who are convincing.
So, this is where I kind of separate with people.
Your problem is not with the foreign minister or the prime minister of Israel.
Your problem should be with the people who are making the decisions to go along with it, if that were true.
So, you.
Brought up very good points.
So, two things with that.
Apparently, and again, I'm nobody.
Like, I get my news by reading and scouring the radio and, you know, trying to figure out what the truth is.
Right.
Our Pentagon said that we would never be able to win this war.
This isn't going to be a Venezuela where, you know, we take out the main person.
So, your problem is not with Israel.
Your problem should be with the commander in chief that made the decision.
Separate those two.
Israel was.
Israel was giving intel to our.
Then our.
Your problem here, you have to listen to me.
Listen to me here.
If somebody gives you, fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me since 1979, shame on me.
So your problem is not with Israel.
If Israel, you've just made the case that Israel has been saying the same thing forever.
So the problem is, why are the people, why is our side falling for it yet again?
You said the Pentagon didn't fall for it.
I don't know if that's.
Absolutely true.
I know that there was a split there, but I don't think it's true.
The president has to decide who he believes.
But if you say he believes the wrong side, the problem is not with Israel, it's with the president of the United States, is it not?
Yes, and the people that he surrounds himself with.
Which is his decision.
He picks those people, right?
So I don't understand if you're against the war, stop with the Israel part.
Stop with it.
You can disagree with Israel.
You can say all the things you said about, you know, they look at it wrong, they're wrong for whatever.
But when it comes to us getting involved, stop blaming it on Israel.
If that's your point of view, the.
The responsibility only falls on Donald Trump's shoulders.
Right?
Ask you one more question.
Okay.
Could you give me a right on that or you disagree?
Yes.
Oh, absolutely.
He chose to be president.
He won.
And yeah, it does fall on his shoulders.
And it's his decision.
The buck stops with him.
Correct.
Great.
Okay, good.
So, what's your next question?
How do you feel about the Greater Israel Project?
What is the Greater Israel Project?
It is a project where Israel wants to expand its borders into parts of Lebanon.
I guess it was like the old borders.
They were essentially like playing a tug of war with South Lebanon and wanting to go into.
So is this a bigger problem than Iran saying that they want to have a global caliphate?
Or do you put them in the same boat?
Well, I think it's a different topic.
All together.
Why?
What's the difference between the two?
I think Israel, I'm sorry, I think Iran, it's not empty words because words do have meaning, but Iran has been saying what they've been saying for decades.
Okay.
Yeah, but they've been backing that up with power.
They've been backing that up with terror all over the Middle East.
I mean, Hamas, for the very first time, Hezbollah, I'm sorry, for the very first time, Hezbollah does not control Lebanon.
Now, whether Israel wants to expand or not, that's a completely different story than the war.
Let's not borrow more trouble here.
That's a separate thing.
And we can talk about that and we can debate that.
I am for every nation being able to defend themselves in the way they think they need to defend themselves.
I may disagree with it and I may say, we're not on your side, but every country has a right to do.
What they think is in their best national interest.
Again, we may be against it.
We might even fight against it, but that's their business, not our business.
Would you agree with that?
Yes.
In my older age, I wish when I was younger I did read into history now because I think the problems that we see today, and without that, that's now going into less deal, but there is, I mean, if all of your audience like reads into the history of Iran, and you have even mentioned it, like Iran, you know, a number of years, decades ago, the women, Look like Western women.
Yes.
And then there was like a regime change, some sort of coup d'etat.
Some sort.
And everything changed.
Right.
It's the Islamic State that now rules Iran.
They overthrew it with Marxists and Islamists.
And that's what happened.
It wasn't some sort of coup d'etat, it was the Iranian Revolution of 1979.
There was, though, wasn't Iran's oil at one point controlled by the English, the British?
Yes, and they wanted sovereignty over their oil.
Yeah, you went.
Now you're going back to the Balfour Accords, so you're going back, you know, between World War I and World War II.
But if you want to get into that, you can't say that Iranians, the Iranian borders were right or this was wrong, but the Israel borders are right or wrong, because it was done all at the same time by the same people.
So, you can't legitimize one government, and that means you can't legitimize Iran, I mean Israel, and demonize Iran.
The borders were all done at the same time by the same people.
So, you have to delegitimize all of it.
And quite honestly, I don't think you can do that.
That would be like us going back, you know, these people who say, you're living on stolen land.
Well, okay, you know, that was many, many years ago.
This is the way it is.
If you want to fight a war, That's how things are usually done.
This was done by the UN and sanctioned by the UN.
It was the New World Order, and this is how we're going to do it, and the Balfour deal, and all this stuff.
They tried to do it through negotiation.
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Was that a good idea?
I don't think it was, but this is what it is now.
And so, why are we going back and rehashing that?
Because if you want to, then you have to open up the entire Middle East.
And that doesn't sound like a good idea.
No.
I mean, I will, yeah.
I mean, Persia, former Iran, Persia.
That's right.
Former Persia, Iran is, it is over a millennia old.
But it is definitely, I feel like all of us should definitely do our homework.
Yes, we should.
You know, read more what happened leading up to basically everything that is happening today.
Can you, Linda, I so enjoyed our conversation.
Can you hold on a bit?
Because you were for Donald Trump and now you're not.
And is that right?
Is that correct?
Yeah, I voted for him three times.
So, can I pursue that with you a little bit?
Because I've really enjoyed our conversation.
Sure.
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I am so grateful for this audience because I think you are so well educated.
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You try to do your own homework.
And I know how hard it is.
I do my own homework too.
I'm just like Linda.
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And I try to give you the actual stuff that you can verify yourself because we don't need more opinions.
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And I thank you so much for being people.
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And we can come up with things we disagree with all the time, but can we still live together and can we still work together?
Linda is showing us that we can.
And I appreciate, Linda, your phone call and your willingness just to really kind of model how to think this through.
Can you tell me, because you just said you agreed with me that your problem should not be with Israel on Benjamin Netanyahu, that your problem, I mean, you could have problems there on their war.
But when it comes to us being involved with it, that blame does not go to Benjamin Netanyahu.
That blame has to come squarely on the president and who he has surrounded himself with, which is his responsibility as well.
You still there?
Yes.
Okay.
So now let's just talk about the war without the Israel part.
Is this war America first?
No.
Why?
Because we're being told that the oil that's coming out of there, we don't need it.
It's oil that is going to Asia.
It's going to Europe.
We have plenty of our own oil.
Again, if Israel wants to.
Leave Israel out of it.
Leave Israel out of it.
This is us.
Sorry about that.
Yep.
Okay, but yeah, we are being told, correct, that the oil that is coming out of Iran, we don't need it.
We have plenty under our own feet, correct?
Correct.
So you have to ask yourself, well, Why are we going into another?
And it is, it truly is going to be, and it breaks my heart.
It's going to be an endless war.
We're going to see our young men and women come back deceased in a box or, you know, injured.
Okay.
Linda, can we continue our conversation?
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Linda, I'm sorry to hijack your day, but I'm enjoying our conversation.
I hope you feel the same way.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So let me just recap for the audience.
We started talking about the war, and you are against, you voted for Donald Trump three times, and you've been with him the whole time, but he promised not to get into wars, and you say he was bamboozled by Israel.
Correct me if I have any of this wrong.
He was bamboozled by Israel, got us into this.
We decided that if your problem is with Israel lying to us, then your real problem is not with Israel, because just like our State Department, we're going to say or do whatever is in our nation's best interest to get people involved in our stuff.
Your real problem is the decision makers, either those who are around Donald Trump or Donald Trump himself.
And he has the responsibility of all those people around him.
He hired them.
So the real problem is with Donald Trump, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
And so I asked you right before we went to break.
I said, So is this a war that is America first?
And you said a couple of things, and I want to go into both of these.
We don't need the oil.
So there's that.
And let's be honest, this will be an endless war, and our men and women, our boys will come back in a box.
Can we separate those two things and talk about each of them?
First, let me start with the last part.
You don't know that, nor can I tell you honestly, it won't end that way.
But why do you jump there when you don't know?
Why go to the worst possible scenario?
That our men and women would come back.
In a box.
Injured?
Yeah.
Injured or dead.
No, no.
But an endless war.
Well, I feel like every war that we do in the Middle East ends up just a long and drawn out war.
Correct.
I agree with you.
Now, have you seen the way he's fighting it compared to the way we've fought them before?
That the strategy is.
Not to break, not to regime change, not to kill everybody and blow up everything, but to leave the regime in place, which we have never done ever before in these foreign wars over in the Middle East.
Does that make any difference to you?
That it's a different, totally different strategy?
You're talking about we're doing like a war of attrition.
Yes.
And we're not, we are not going in and saying, we're going to, we're going to give you democracy.
We're not doing that.
Where we did that in, Every country we've ever fought in.
Absolutely.
You know, Glenn, I think what's different today versus even four years ago is everybody has, everyone is their own reporter.
We all have this great iPhone.
And no, no, seriously.
No, no, I'm with you.
And everything is so real time.
And I think that the powers that be, whether it is governments, it is Monarchies, they're losing the control of the narrative.
Yes.
And people are, you know, I have this standing joke, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a conspiracy realist.
Because if it's a theory in January and it comes true in June, then, you know, I just haven't figured out the lottery numbers.
Right.
There's a difference between theories and fact.
You can start as a conspiracy theory.
The nine or 10 or 11 missing people now are dead people with.
Military, you know, that working on space stuff.
That's a conspiracy theory right now.
It may turn out to be conspiracy fact, but right now it's just a theory.
And that doesn't make it a bad thing.
It just, you need to categorize it as it's a theory and not go all in and put all your chips on the table and say, and you're a traitor if you don't believe it.
No, let's play this out.
Let's follow the facts.
It's going to take time, but you in the end may be right.
Correct?
Yeah.
You know what was interesting about that story is.
Well, let's not get back.
Sorry.
No, but no, honestly, it was Deucey from The Sun.
I know there's two on Fox.
And he mentioned it during a press briefing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's the one who really put light to it.
Right.
You know, I don't want to get bogged down in.
I don't want to get bogged down in all that.
I was just saying that, you know, we all need to slow down.
And that's why I started with you say this is an endless war.
You said, let's be.
Let's face the facts or let's be real.
We all know it's going to.
I don't know that.
I know that Donald Trump hates war.
He really is terrified of nuclear war.
It's the only thing I've seen him be afraid of.
And I know he's doing everything.
Now, it might, because we're dealing with crazy people, turn into that.
But we don't know that yet.
And I was just wondering if you could say, I believe that it's a high probability.
That it will turn into that based on everything in the past.
However, caveat Donald Trump has shown no indications that he likes or fights wars the way George Bush or Barack Obama or Joe Biden or anybody else has fought wars.
Can you go that far?
Well, can I?
I'll say this.
You know, we're not dealing with a regular government in regards to Iran, but you have to admit, Donald Trump's truths or whatever tweets, truths, whatever you want to call them, during Easter were.
So horrible, awful, yeah, horrible.
They were horrible.
So, when we're when we are laying this argument that Iran is crazy and this, he was talking about like blowing them up.
I mean, right?
So, and that's when I missed it.
You missed, hang on, you missed a monologue that I did.
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But Donald Trump did not mean that.
And you've seen that.
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You have to understand the president, A, he does a lot of things on Twitter that I absolutely hate.
That are just crazy.
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Okay.
Just, he shouldn't do it.
But that one in particular, I really don't like.
I thought it was really bad.
However, I give it with this caveat it may have been directed right to the people he was trying to drive to the table two days later.
Okay.
Okay.
So let me go into, let me take a break so we don't have to break in the middle of it.
Give me 60 seconds.
And I want to come back to your thought we don't, they say we don't even need the oil.
So why is this America first if we don't even need the oil?
That's a great point.
I want to talk to you about that.
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Okay, trying to keep everything compartmentalized instead of drifting all over into many different things at once.
Let's just talk about is this America first?
And you said, we don't even, Donald Trump keeps saying we don't even need the oil.
So why are we there?
What do you mean by that?
Well, that's what we've been told.
Yeah.
However, when we were on break, and I don't know if it was Jason or who, they were like talking about, Political points, and apparently America is now exporting close to 13 million barrels of oil a day.
Yes, it's the largest exporting we've ever done.
Well, that could right there be your reasoning for justifying the war.
Is that a bad thing?
I'm not saying justifying the war for oil or money, but is it a bad thing that we are now the world's largest exporter?
That goes to the America first question.
Right.
Oh, goodness.
This is like.
It's hard, isn't it?
It is hard.
Yeah, it is.
As far as America first, no, that is America first.
Yes.
I never want to see another person.
You know, when I look at wars, one, it's the common person who is hurt the most.
The people at the top, they're in safety somewhere.
I know.
But I look at these regular people.
You know, I would be.
If there was a war, you know.
A domestic war here, I would be that regular person.
I know.
That would be hit the hardest.
I know.
People at the top.
So let me help you just think in this way and see if this makes any sense to you.
Because I hate the idea of war for oil.
It's absolutely immoral.
It's immoral.
However, let's look at America first.
If we are going to survive the $40 trillion in debt, if we're going to survive into the next century with AI and everything else, We need primarily the things that we need.
We need to lead in energy, and that's all energy.
If we are beholden to anyone on energy, we are in trouble.
If we can get, if others even compete with us, we lose leverage.
Same thing with AI.
We must lead in AI, which means we have to have rare earth minerals wherever they are and we must control them.
The world has to come to us for those things.
We also have to rebuild our infrastructure, we have to build factories and And plants and be able to make our own chips and everything else.
So, if that chain begins with AI, rare minerals, manufacturing, they all really rely on energy.
So, that's why Drill Baby Drill was so important, and that is to make us energy independent.
The problem is.
And this is not Donald Trump's fault.
This is the fault of the left.
And I don't know how to solve this one.
I don't think this could ever be solved unless America just says, shut up to all of the people on the left that are all about, you know, ending oil.
The oil that we get, we have plenty of natural gas, LP, all this stuff.
We have plenty of that.
And that can be used here in America.
But when it comes to gasoline and oil, we pull out of the ground something that is called light, sweet crude.
It's really easy to process.
The stuff we get from Saudi Arabia, even Venezuela, is very dirty.
We get light sweet crude here, but we have not made a new refinery in America since I think 1973.
You can't build them anymore.
And none of them are geared for light sweet crude.
So we take and we sell all of the oil that most of the oil that we are drilling and getting out of the ground.
We have to sell that to other countries.
We can't use it here because we can't refine it.
So we have to sell that, which means when the president says we don't need the oil, Well, until we build refineries, yes, we do.
We have to trade our oil for the crap we get out of Saudi Arabia and the rest of the world.
Now, we're getting less of it from Saudi Arabia.
We'll get more of it from Venezuela in our own hemisphere, which causes the price to go down and the control and the danger and everything else.
So, what the plan was is A, if you want to be America first, you have to control energy.
But also, where was the rest of the world buying their energy?
Europe was buying it from Russia and Saudi Arabia.
China was buying it from the Straits of Hormuz.
You have all of this oil.
Nobody's coming to us.
And China had put together BRICS Brazil, Russia, India, China, BRICS.
And their plan, all during the administration for Biden, was to come up with a new currency that could buy oil.
The reason why the dollar is the king around the world is.
OPEC says you can only buy it through using U.S. currency.
The minute that's over, we are Haiti.
We crash and we have no money.
No money.
It's worthless.
Okay.
So you have to break the back of bricks, which is why he just took Venezuela off of the board.
It's why he just took the Panama Canal so they can't get the ships out.
They got to go all the way around if they wanted to buy it.
He's breaking the.
Back of bricks and China on oil and rare earth minerals.
So it is America first if we can break the backs.
It's not true that we don't need the oil because we can't build refineries here.
If we have to, we should come up with maybe Venezuela.
I hate doing this, but we should say, Will you build all of our sweet oil refineries there so we can have cheaper gas?
It'd be cheaper if we built them here, but it'll take you 30 years and no one will invest in it because no one believes that you can get something built here in 15 or 20 or even 30 years with having the administration and all the laws remain the same.
So that's why this oil thing is important because it's not about gas prices and it's not about making, you know, a company rich.
It's about the long term being able to have America lead the world.
Does that make sense to you?
Absolutely.
And you, like, I'm so glad that you're bringing up the things that you are because I wanted to bring it up, but I didn't know if it would be quite appropriate.
In regards to.
Exporting oil.
Wasn't it last year Saudi Arabia dropped the petrol dollar or did not re-contract the petrol dollar?
I remember reading something like that.
I don't think that they did that, but they were toying with it with China, which makes that extraordinarily dangerous.
Yes.
So, I mean, yeah, at the end of the day, I'm glad because this is such an honest conversation and topics that really are not being touched by anybody, but that is what it boils down to.
It's almost as though, like, we have to back our money, it isn't backed up by anything anymore.
It went from gold to the petrol, and now that's in question.
Correct.
And we have to wash our money with something.
Right.
So, and I hate to say this, but is it being washed by war?
War makes money.
When I'm hearing it's not, it is backed by, yes, that has something to do with stock markets going up because we have to rebuild everything else.
But that's not what the, if he again separate things.
If Donald Trump is a man of his word, and I believe he is.
That he hates war, he doesn't want endless, but he's trying to do America first.
He must control the energy and also make sure that no one can collapse our dollar from the petrodollar.
So that makes this essential to be able to save America and the American system.
If we don't do that, we're out.
We're out.
So there are all kinds of ramifications, good and bad, on this.
But if you can focus on, is this in our national interest?
To make sure the dollar, the petrodollar is controlled.
And even if OPEC would finally go away, we'd have so much oil here that the rest of the world would have to buy that the petrodollar would remain for at least half the world.
Doesn't that make this a justifiable idea, at least?
It's a beautiful idea.
It's a perfect idea.
So, I mean, so then why do you say you're against the president?
On this idea.
So when you lay it out in that sense, yes, I am for it.
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You know, I'm so grateful for listeners like Linda who came in and look at what a reasonable conversation can produce.
I don't know if we agree on everything, but we walked away willing to have a conversation with each other again.
And we were at polar opposites when we first started.
And I think we found a lot in common.
And that's where white pilling comes in.
Okay.
We are all black pilled.
On something, one way or another.
We're blackpilled on so many things.
But I want you to start looking for things of hope.
Jason, you just played, who was it that was testifying in front of the Senate yesterday on COVID that you just played?
Oh, that was Senator Johnson.
It was an interview.
It wasn't a testimony.
Okay, interview.
And he was talking about what they're now finding with COVID and uncovering, et cetera, et cetera.
And we can sit here and go, yeah, but is anyone going to pay for that?
At least it is now coming out and being verified.
We are showing the facts now.
And that's where.
That's where everything can change.
If you stay focused on facts and don't let people, you've got to compartmentalize.
You're never going to be able to think everything through if you keep dodging from one squirrel to the next.
You've got to follow one point all the way down and answer that.
Then take the next fact and follow that all the way down and make your decision on that.
When you put them all back together, if one of those disagrees with the other, then you've got to start all over again.
But it's hard work.
It's hard work.
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But there is a lot of good stuff that is going on right now, and we are starving for hope.
I mean, right now, so many of us, I mean, look around, look around to all your friends.
Okay.
People wake up, they're tired.
They're already convinced, you know, it's not going to change.
Good life is out of reach.
We're, you know, like Linda said an hour ago, I want to get the exact quote from her.
We all know this is going to be an endless war.
Men and women, our boys are going to come back in a box.
We don't know that.
That's black pilled.
That's black pilled.
And we swallow these things whole.
And, you know, all the way from that to I'm never going to be able to own a house or have the family or the future I want.
And we're exhausted.
We're desperate.
And we scroll through media, social media, which is filled with lies.
Okay.
And you feel smaller and smaller and more confused and more despair with every swipe up.
Okay, hope is dying in us, one comparison at a time.
But if we would stop and start, decide to feed hope every single day, stop, stop waking up to dread, start waking up to possibilities.
Life changes.
Your chest isn't so heavy.
You start squaring your shoulders, beginning to look up a little bit, and you begin to believe again that maybe life can be good and meaningful right where we are, not someday when we make it.
You trade numbness for expectancy.
We trade fear for courage.
We become the kind of person who can face hard days without being crushed by them.
And if enough of us do this, our culture begins to heal.
And hope becomes a real powerful weapon.
Hopelessness, hopeless people are very dangerous.
They tear things down, but hope filled people build things.
They create, they love, they fight for what's good.
Families stay together, communities come alive.
You know, and the generation that says it's screwed now, they begin living boldly again and risking and building.
I want you to do a couple of things.
Write this down.
I want you to do a few things every single day if you can.
If you want to be white pilled, okay?
Start your day with eternal truth.
Read something that was built before, that was written long before any of this crap started, okay?
Read things that are true.
Spend five minutes reading scripture or some timeless wisdom that reminds you that hope is alive, truth is alive, truth is God.
Okay?
Two, write down one specific hope or prayer and keep it visible.
Keep it right in front of you, something that gives you hope every day.
Put it right in front of you all the time.
You start to doubt, look at that picture.
Take one faithful action, no matter how small, take one faithful action to serve somebody else.
Okay.
Move towards a meaningful goal that is about helping other people, whatever it is.
Four, limit your comparison and feed your mind with stories of real resistance and redemption instead of endless scrolling.
And then when you end the day, Ben Franklin used to do this.
He kept a charter, he started, he kept a diary every morning.
He had a list of all the things, all of the attributes that he wanted to embody in his life.
And then he would check them off.
He'd read them and he'd check them off.
And then he'd come back to that same list at night and he would write where he failed and where he can do better and where he excelled that day so he could make it even better the next day.
Remember every day that God's faithful in your life or in our history.
If you do these things and you watch, you'll be stronger every day and you'll be much stronger than your circumstances soon.
William Woods Identity Theft00:06:52
It does work.
It does work.
We have to get out of this black pill, but we also have to look at the truth.
I'm going to tell you a story you want to talk about scary.
Let me tell you this story.
I read this in a court document.
Let me tell you the story in a story form.
It's Albuquerque, New Mexico.
It's in the late 1980s at a hot dog cart, and two guys meet each other at this hot dog court.
One is down on his luck, he's just scraping by.
The other sees an opportunity and steals that guy's entire life.
I don't know if you've read about this yet.
This is a story of Matthew David Kieran's, I think his name is, and the man whose name he took, William Donald Woods.
It has been going on since the 1980s, and it is, I mean, it's Kafka.
It's a nightmare, okay?
But it finally caught up.
So here's what happened.
By all appearances, the man named William Woods had turned his life around.
Okay, from the homeless hot dog vendor to a married father, successful hospital IT administrator, he was earning over $100,000 a year in Wisconsin.
He had bank accounts, credit lines, family, everything looked legitimate.
One problem he wasn't the hot dog vendor.
He's not William Woods.
His real name was Matthew David Kierins.
In the 1980s, Kierins met the real Woods at that hot dog stand.
And Woods was a co worker, he was vulnerable, he was transient.
Kieran's didn't just borrow the name, he became William Woods.
He got a social security card, driver's license, insurance, loans, credit, all in Woods' name.
And when Kieran's stole cars, the warrants and arrests landed on Woods.
He married and had a child who carried the stolen surname.
His own wife never knew the truth.
Meanwhile, the real William Woods was drifting through life.
He was homeless, he was bewildered.
Debts, warrants, legal troubles all piled up in his name.
And he was like, wait, but that's not me.
Now skip ahead.
It started in the 1980s.
It's now 2019.
The real hot dog stand guy, the real Woods, now is in California.
And he walks into a bank branch and he's trying to do the right thing.
And he's trying to clear all this up.
And he's like, no, that's not who I am.
Somebody stole my identity and they're racking up debt.
And he shows his real social security card.
But the banker notices the account address is in Wisconsin.
Woods fails the security questions.
Banker calls the listed number.
Kieran's answers, calm as can be.
And he's like, nobody in California should be able to touch my accounts.
He faxes over his forged documents, social security card, driver's license, birth certificate, all in the name of William Woods.
Then he goes further.
He calls the police and he says, I want you to get this guy and prosecute him for stealing my identity.
Remember, he's the guy who stole the identity from the hot dog guy already back in the 80s.
Now he's saying, I want you to throw him in jail.
So authorities arrest the real William Woods and they charge him with identity theft and false impersonation.
And Woods is like, No, my name is William Woods.
No one believes him because he's been a drifter his whole life.
Then the courts do something incredible because he's so.
I mean, could you imagine being this?
This is like an Alfred Hitchcock movie.
You're just like, wait a minute, wait, what?
This is North by Northwest.
No, that's not me.
He's so excited about this in court.
Court deems him mentally incompetent.
So now he's sent to a mental hospital and he's force fed drugs.
He is in jail for 428 days.
And 147 days institutionalized force fed drugs.
He's finally released, and the court orders him to use only his true name, which is Matthew Kieran's, which isn't his true name.
The real Woods doesn't give up.
Would you?
I mean, I don't know what I would do.
Now it's 2023.
He contacts the hospital where William Woods works.
He hires a detective.
A really good detective gets the case.
DNA evidence seals it.
So in July 2023, confronted with the proof, Kieran's, the real Kieran's, the fake Woods, admits.
For decades, I've been living as this guy.
I've been forging documents and lying to law enforcement.
Kieran pleads guilty to making false statements to a federally insured credit union, aggregated identity theft.
The judge looks past the guidelines and recommends around 12 to 18 months plus a mandatory 24.
Is that all you would get?
12 to 18 months plus two more years?
Judge said this is unusual and egregious.
Kieran didn't just steal an identity.
He weaponized the justice system to imprison and medicate an innocent man.
He didn't show any remorse, no direct apology to the victim.
The judge varies and says, you know what?
I'm not going by the guidelines.
144 months.
That's 12 years in federal prison, plus fines, restitution, supervised release, mental health, and substance abuse evaluations.
Well, Kieran's, the fake Woods, he's like, that's crazy.
I mean, I've only destroyed this guy's life since 1980.
You're going to put me in jail for 12 years?
That's too harsh.
Well, apparently not.
April 23rd, 2026.
That was yesterday.
Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals shuts it down.
Unanimous opinion.
The judge and the court affirms every part of the sentence.
Judge, he said, had wide discretion.
Eighth Circuit Verdict00:03:49
Yep, the harm was extraordinary.
Conditions were reasonable, given a lifetime of deceit and no remorse.
So he begins paying for the life that he stole.
The real William Woods finally has his name back.
The scars remain.
Can you imagine?
A hot dog encounter that took place in the 1980s, one of the most audacious identity thefts in American history.
Some lies.
They just don't ruin a life, they erase lives.
Here's my warning.
Imagine what can now be done with a i.
We are entering a brave and frightening new world.
Warning.
Now, go read some other truth that gets you white-pilled again.
I know, I know, I'm not helping myself, but you got to put good stuff into your head as well because you got to hear the truth, live in the real world, but don't become that.
Don't go down the dark roads.
You have to know about it, but there is real hope as well.
Things are changing, there is a movement afoot.
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Well, now that you've got that metal picture in your head, Glenn Beck will be right back.
Oh, golly, there is so much yet we have to get to.
Next hour, I want to show you some of the news that is going on and kind of give you a look at what has happened this week from these two girls in Houston that were planning bombings.
I mean, teenage girls, to what's happening on our campuses, what's happening with.
Mamdani and taxing the rich up in New York are fraud.
More on a little bit more on the war, on what is happening this weekend.
There is a way again, and I want to show you how to look at things because I could give you a monologue and say, everything is bad.
Look at all this bad.
Or I could look at it and say, okay, that's bad.
Now look at the other things that are happening that I think are really good.
Weekly News Review00:02:35
Now, what are you going to choose to concentrate on?
You got to know all of it, but what are you going to choose to concentrate on?
And I think, I hope you will come out that things are getting much, much better.
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Okay, so I looked at all the stories that are coming out today.
In case you didn't get our newsletter, you need to.
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It gives you all the stories of the day that I look at.
We get to a fraction of them, but they're all the stories that my staff and I are following every day and we think are important for you to see to understand the world in which we live.
So, what are the stories that came out today that I think we need to pay attention to?
And some of these happen during the week.
They've been unfolding during the week.
So, let's look at the week here.
For years, the Southern Poverty Law Center acted as America's self appointed moral referee.
They have been a bane of our existence.
For years and years and years.
One label from them.
They label you a hate group, and lives were ruined.
Bank accounts were closed.
Companies canceled contracts.
Reputations destroyed.
No trial, no evidence, no appeal.
Just their voice.
That's the verdict.
That's the truth.
Well, finally, this week, the DOJ announced that they are under federal indictment.
And I want to be really careful here because I got a million axes to grind with these guys.
But I want to stay focused on what the government said they did.
A $3 million fraud scheme.
What they did was they routed money under fake names, opening fake bank accounts, hiding payments from donors, and cooking the books while they preached morality to everybody else.
Now, the media is trying to spin this as they were just paying off people in the neo Nazi group to help them infiltrate.
Well, you can't do that as a 501st.
If you're the FBI, you can do that.
But if you're a 501c3, you don't have the right to do it.
You can't open fake bank accounts.
You can't fake wire transfers.
That's what the whole Patriot Act is all about.
Okay?
You can't do it.
But the media is spinning this into a nothing burger.
And if it goes nowhere, charges of banking fraud, if those are real and it goes nowhere, we're screwed.
But even if half of the stuff that the government is alleging is true, this was the group claiming to expose Nazis and extremism.
And they may have played a big part in manufacturing some of it.
I mean, look, hate exists, Nazis exist, racists exist, all of that exists.
But they helped keep it going.
They made it into a bigger racket and they advertised, you know, the referee was rigging the game.
So that credibility should be gone from everybody, but it's not.
It's not.
But notice this week that everything is beginning to wobble a bit.
Perhaps, perhaps some now on the left are seeing why the left, or some on the right, are seeing why the left reacted the way they did to Elon Musk and TARP.
Okay.
They couldn't get them out of Washington fast enough.
They were burning down his businesses.
Okay.
Why?
We now know if you follow the money, the entire house of cards comes down.
Officials are now estimating that.
Now, listen to this.
Between 2018 and 2022, $2 trillion were lost to fraud and corruption.
We have a budget debt of $40 trillion.
But in those four years, and that was before things really got going, in those four years alone, They added $2 trillion to that debt.
Are you kidding me?
If we could just do TARP and get rid of all of this corruption, we would be able to pay down that debt pretty quickly instead of adding, take the $2 trillion and pay down.
This is always what happens when the ends justify the means.
Truth, integrity, theft, even murder don't matter as long as it serves the higher purpose.
Of what?
The destruction of America and the Western world.
You saw that last week with Swalwell.
Didn't matter.
As long as he was helping them, he could get away with anything.
The minute he started hurting them, he was out.
Ends justify the means.
And this same twisted thinking is everywhere.
Listen to this story.
In Houston, and we'll have more on this because this is a new story and we don't have all the details yet.
But in Houston, two teenage girls, two teenage girls, We were charged with plotting to ram a synagogue and kill as many Jews as possible.
That's a quote from them.
Now, thank God they were stopped.
And let's see what the court's going to do to these two girls.
But let me just point this out a society, a culture is lost when the nurturing class becomes the killer class.
Understand that.
Guys.
They are violent by nature.
They are the protectors.
Women are the nurturers.
When women become a killer class, your culture is over.
But again, why?
Why are they becoming a killer culture?
Because the ends justify the means.
At UC Berkeley this week, students erupted in applause for a failed Palestine suicide bomber who spoke at Political Prisoners Day.
He was trying to kill himself.
He failed, and they brought him on to speak, and they held him up as a hero.
And at the same time, the New York Times this week gave airtime to voices claiming shoplifting is a valid form of political protest.
I just said, ends justify the means.
That leads to theft, to lies, to murder.
You've just seen it this week.
And this isn't disconnected madness.
This is what happens when a society lets grievance culture rewrite morality.
Because you've been wronged, you can do this.
That's all of the seven deadly sins, all wrapped up into that.
Okay?
Harm becomes negotiable when you can base it on who's doing it.
Good and evil get flipped.
And who pays the price?
Your children's future.
Civilization collapses.
And look how it's collapsing.
Let's look this week at the cities that have been swallowed by this hole, hole, swallowed whole.
New York, Zoran Mandani.
He stood outside of Ken Griffin's building grinning about, I'm taxing the rich, I'm going to make them pay.
So, what did Citadel do?
What was the richest response?
That's okay.
We're just not going to invest the $6 billion redevelopment project.
That would have created 6,000 construction jobs and 15,000 permanent ones.
That's not a threat.
That's capital walking through the door.
That's capital saying, okay, we don't have to do that.
So, who gets hurt?
6,000 construction jobs.
Mamdani doesn't care about those people.
He cares about the elites.
He cares about the Columbia educated.
He didn't care about the construction workers.
The 15,000 permanent jobs.
I don't even know what those jobs are.
Do they need a college degree?
Does he care about those guys?
Think of that, 20,000 jobs, one fell swoop.
Now, meanwhile, let me white pill you here.
On the flip side, red states like Texas and Florida are doing something that would have sounded crazy.
In fact, I said it two decades ago.
I said it, what, 17 years ago.
You're going to see people, and when you see states start to stockpile their gold, we're going to be in real trouble.
Well, Florida and Texas are now protecting themselves because of the $40 trillion in debt, the reckless spending, the out of control.
Ideas that are coming.
If we lose the next two elections, it's coming.
And at least two states know this has got to stop.
So they're bringing their gold back.
I'm going to get into that next week.
That's way important.
If your state's not doing it, it should.
Meanwhile, Virginia is staring down a Democrat drawn congressional map that could lock in one party progressive rule and turn it into California 2.0.
It's almost already there.
Higher taxes, more homelessness, open border spending.
We've seen this movie before.
I don't know what's wrong with people, but okay, whatever.
And now they're saying, well, Florida should do it.
Well, nobody wins on this, gang.
Once you open this, no one wins.
The rule of law goes out the window.
Now, the same pressure is hitting America's adversaries abroad.
I showed you yesterday what's happening in Canada.
They're no longer a free nation, as we've always understood Canada to be free.
It's not.
And it doesn't look like there's anything that's going to slow them down.
Pray for the people of Alberta, quite frankly.
That might do the trick.
Maybe, maybe.
In the Middle East, we're told today by some podcasters that Trump's ceasefire doesn't make any sense.
Wait, he's expanded it by two weeks.
Wait, first you said no troops and stop the killing.
So when he does stop the killing, what?
You want him to start killing again?
I'm confused.
I can't follow your logic here.
I can't.
Which is it?
You want him to do war or not do war?
You want him to negotiate with teeth or not negotiate with teeth?
I don't get it.
But so you know, everything we said we were probably doing, it looks like we are doing now.
We're negotiating and we're bleeding them dry of their oil.
President Trump also expanded the Israel Lebanon ceasefire another three weeks.
He has carriers in the region.
He has ordered the Navy to shoot and kill any Iranian boats that are laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz.
It's not like those old mines with the spikes on them and stuff, these are down underneath the water.
But he sunk most of their submarines, if not all of them.
But he's made it clear nuclear weapons are not going to be allowed.
And the first time in years, bad actors are facing real consequences instead of, you know, pallets full of cash on their airport, tarmac.
Their economy is collapsing.
Some people say it has days before they have to shut down the oil wells.
And if that happens, no income, no income.
They're over, no income.
Already their GDP is down over 40% because of the last couple of weeks.
This is bad.
The supreme leader, burned, disfigured, losing control now, I guess to people even more hardline than he is, but I don't know what a mullah who's gay is.
I mean, how hardline they are.
I hate to use that phrase.
But now, some bad news.
The parliament speaker just quit the negotiating team.
The regime is cracking, still talking tough, but the hardliners seem to be gaining power.
But we don't know for sure.
The news today that came out right before I came on the show is they are sending their team to Pakistan to actually engage in talks this week.
So we could see.
Again, another Friday where I say to you, let's see.
Maybe it's peace by Monday.
Maybe not.
China is also feeling the news.
It's tightening on their energy supply lines from Venezuela to Iran, Caribbean, all of that.
The administration is accusing now Beijing of industrial scale campaigns to steal AI from America.
This is huge, huge.
And we're not just talking tough to protect ourselves, we're actually finally taking real action against China, carrying a big stick, but not using the full force of it yet, because we don't want to do that.
Back home, also this week, you should know real enforcement is returning.
Governor Abbott has cut a deal with Houston to honor ICE warrants after threatening to withhold $114 million in state grants.
Good.
Borders are Tom Homan has invited Pope Leo.
Come along with ICE.
Come with us on some of these raids so you can see the border and what we're doing with your own eyes.
And please, Pope Leo, I have no problem with the Catholics or you.
I don't want to fight with any of them.
But please don't tell us that the Muslims are not a problem and we.
And we shouldn't worry about that.
Your Vatican walls were built to keep the Muslim invaders out of Vatican City.
So please learn your own history and don't lecture us about politics.
Yours is God, not politics.
Federal agents just dismantled major pieces of the Mexican mafia in Southern California.
Dozens arrested, prison leadership hit, drugs, guns, extortion, all these networks taken down.
That's good news.
And all of this connects to what?
We're making progress.
The institutions that lied to us are losing their grip.
The moral confusion they spread is being exposed in real time.
Don't get me wrong, we are not killing them, we are wounding them.
But if you go after the king, you better make sure you take the king out.
They are not out, not by a long shot.
But yesterday, the Tides Foundation finally found themselves in the scope of law enforcement.
But they're going to fight back.
And in the end, they're so old and exposed now, they might just morph instead of die.
But the economic consequences of bad ideas are starting to hit hard.
And the enemies who grew bold during the years of weakness are suddenly under real pressure.
Unfortunately, so are you.
I told you before, it's a race to the finish line.
I pray JD Vance and the new AG are going to be working hard and fast to stop the bleed.
Of half a trillion dollars a year in corruption.
Tides Foundation Scandal00:08:24
Imagine if we weren't giving this money away to NGOs and Somalis and illegals who were funneling all this money through NGOs, 501c3s, and democratic platforms.
Imagine what you could do with that money.
But this is a stress test for the country.
Some things are cracking, some things are holding.
But I want you to know while we're making progress, nothing is set in concrete yet.
Everybody who is working to destroy us, everybody who hates Trump needs him, and anyone who thinks like him out.
If we can keep the House and the Senate and we can somehow win in 2028, we have a chance of killing this virus.
I mean, this is a virus that, I mean, this has the Republic on a COVID vent.
We're not off the vent yet.
We have to stay vigilant, even with our own side.
The House, GOP, the FISA extension without warrant requirement should worry every single American who values liberty.
Make no mistake.
Make no mistake, we have to stand against our own side at the same time.
But also, don't make the mistake of saying the world is in chaos.
It's not.
Part of the world is trying to create chaos.
Social media will think that everything Trump is doing is chaos.
It is not.
It's a reckoning, it's a sorting out what is true and what was built on lies.
What survives this moment.
Is what we'll build on or rebuild on.
And the choice is still ours to make.
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Jason, I want to come to you as we get ready for Billy Hollowell to come in and talk about something we've been waiting to hear.
He was talking to us last week about UFOs and he brought something up that I thought was really important.
We're going to get to that here in a second.
Quickly, is there anything on that list of things that we were going to talk about today that I didn't get to yet?
We need to?
Oh, there's the story of the soldier that made money off of the Maduro raid.
Got to get to that today.
What do you think?
What do you think of that?
Oh, he absolutely is in the wrong there.
There's no question.
Endangering the lives of his team and the entire operation.
So, what he did is he went on, like one of the things that Stu is promoting these betting sites, or I'm sorry, these, what do they call them?
Betting sites.
And they bet on what they think is going to happen.
Well, this guy took a lot of money and said, hey, a Maduro raid is going to happen.
He got rich.
You can't do that.
You're in the military.
You got to let Nancy Pelosi get rich on things like that.
Not in the military.
You can't do that.
And I'm not sure what's going to happen to him, but I'm glad to hear you say that that is a.
I mean, that put people in danger.
People watch those markets, the prediction markets, and they, you know, and if you're on the wrong side, you look at that and go, what does somebody know?
Somebody knows Maduro, they're coming to get Maduro.
That was a really bad move, and he should be punished.
All right.
Billy Hollowell joins us in just a second.
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So, the White House Correspondence Dinner is happening this week, and apparently Donald Trump is going to go to it.
You know, the White House Correspondence Dinner started because of Woodrow Wilson.
He said, We're letting these people be adversaries to ours.
Bring them in.
We'll make them our friends.
We'll, you know, sleep with them, and then they'll be on our side.
And that's the White House Correspondence Dinner, and you see how they always treat Republicans at those things.
This week, they're not bringing in a comedian, which, you know, they should have learned the first time, you know, because it turned about on them when they invited Don Imus.
Does anybody remember this with Bill Clinton and Don Imus?
Don Imus at the White House Correspondence Dinner.
And as you know, nearly every incident in the lives of the First Family has been made worse by each and every person in this room, the radio and television correspondents, even innocuous incidents.
For example, when Cal Ripken broke Lou Gehrig's consecutive game record, the president was at Camden Yards doing play by play on the radio with John Miller.
Bobby Benilla hit a double, and we all heard the president, in his obvious excitement, holler, go, baby.
I remember commenting at the time, I bet that's not the first time he said that.
Remember the astroturf and the pickup?
And my point is there is an innocent event made sinister by some creep in the media.
Although, in some cases, the Clintons have not exactly helped themselves.
Imagine if back in 1978, Mrs. Clinton had not said to Mr. Clinton, Honey, Jim and Susan are here and they've got some riverfront land for these great vacation homes and maybe we can make some serious money.
And he said, God, I love this Reaganomics.
Or later, she said, Bill, I talked to Webb and he said, put down 600 hours.
And he said, wow, that's a lot.
She said, yes, I think 60 makes more sense.
Ephesians Narrative Forces00:07:51
And recently, somebody said, I don't know, I left them on the table in the book room.
Which reminds me, in light of the controversy that surrounded the publication of Mrs. Clinton's book, perhaps Anonymous should have written It Takes a Village, and then there's Senator D'Amato's book, It Takes a Village Idiot.
It got very quiet in that room.
But Don Imus was, you know, he said the next day, What did you think you were going to get?
You invited Don Imus.
I miss this legend.
All right, let me go to Billy Hollowell.
We'll see what happens.
We'll see what we're talking about, if anything, on Monday after the correspondence dinner.
Let me go to Billy Hollowell.
He is the host of Investigating the Supernatural Miracles, co host of Quick Start.
CBN has this.
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Billy, you were on with us last week and we were talking about the idea of Ephesians and putting on the full armor of God.
And it starts with, you are not fighting flesh and bone.
Can you give that quote?
Yeah.
So it says, put on the whole armor of God.
This is verse 11, Ephesians 6, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age.
Against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
That's verses 11 and 12 there.
So you said that, and I've heard principalities forever.
I don't know what principalities really are.
Can you take that apart?
Because this is so important, because I think this is what we're dealing with now.
We are dealing with darkness, real darkness.
And our enemies are not our neighbors, but we have deemed them our enemies.
Our real enemies are these principalities.
Can you explain that?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, look, when we look out at what is happening in the culture, right, we look at politics, we look at our society, and we wonder what in the world is happening.
When you read these verses, it's not just talking about demons and evil attacking people.
It's talking about, you know, when you talk about principalities, you're actually talking about geographical areas.
And so, how do we know that?
You know, there's some mystery here, but you can go back to the book of Daniel.
If you go to Daniel 10, this is really interesting.
You dive into this, this Prince of Persia that you see in Daniel 10.
And now, this is apocalyptic, so you've got to be careful with reading too much into it.
But what you see is.
Is Daniel has this dream and he's praying to God.
He's very disturbed by this dream.
And it takes 21 days for this angel to get to him to answer this prayer.
The angel tells him that the prince of Persia was actively resisting the angel delivering the message.
And so there's a lot going on there, but it's some evidence in scripture that we actually have some demonic forces, maybe some fallen angels that are actually in charge of geographic areas.
And so when you go back into Ephesians, again, it's talking about.
Principalities, powers, and rulers of the darkness of this age.
That seems to be talking also about forces that are controlling narratives, right?
You think about the media, Hollywood, universities, all these places that we've talked about.
We often wonder, why is it so secular?
Why is it the way that it is?
Well, some of this you can see in Ephesians 6 is pretty much explained in some of these verses.
So I don't want to oversimplify, but that gives us a little bit of an overview there.
And so that's the warning, and the solution is.
Now, you go to verse 13, and this is really interesting.
Take up the whole armor of God that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
So it's not saying, oh, you might encounter evil.
It's telling you, you are going to encounter evil.
And what does Scripture tell us?
Resist the devil, and he will flee.
Now, how do you do that?
And it's really interesting because as Ephesians 6 goes on, it's essentially talking about this shield of faith, right?
Righteousness.
Pray, scripture, reading the Bible, knowing the Bible.
That is the number one thing.
The Bible is the truth.
When you know it and you understand it, that is your shield of faith and the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit.
These are all basically telling you, you know, when we boil it down, if you want to survive this chaos and actually understand what's going on around us, you've got to live like a Christian.
You've got to look at everything through an Ephesians 6 lens, not through a secular lens, not through, you know, a relativistic lens, whatever you want to believe, whatever you want to feel and do.
You have to take everything and compare it to what scripture tells us is true.
And so it's interesting because all of these systems, right, they're all being dominated.
If God is not at the center of them, they're being dominated by these principalities and these powers and these rulers.
And so, you know, I got to tell you, Glenn, I have read this a million times, and it wasn't until the last couple of years and working on these documentaries that I paused and really thought, well, what does this actually mean?
Me too.
Me too.
And how do we navigate it?
Me too.
It's amazing.
I remember saying in early 2000, You know, imagine what it's like to live in those kinds of days and what could that be like?
And it's becoming so clear.
I've never understood how the German people went crazy like they did.
We're seeing it happen here.
We're seeing it.
And it's the same ancient evil that is taking rational people and, in a way, using rational thought.
They're using pieces of truth and then perverting the rest of it.
And you get so lost.
And, you know, if people don't recognize that this is not normal.
What we're going through right now is not normal.
It's so easy to get lost.
So easy.
And, you know, one thing that's interesting, going back to that Daniel 10, this Prince of Persia, and again, you know, there's also a Prince of Greece that's mentioned there.
And when you look historically, you know, Persia was obviously an issue for the Israeli people at that point, the Hebrew people, but Greece was soon going to become one.
And that Prince of Greece is mentioned in there, which is super interesting historically when you look at it.
But this Prince of Persia that was going on back then, this force that was in control and holding back those prayers, you wonder if that Prince of Persia is.
Still in effect today in Iran, right?
Because Iran is modern day Persia.
And so, again, we have to be careful making too many claims here.
But what we can say is that we do know from scripture that there seem to be principalities in control of geographic areas and also powers in control of some of the institutions that we're wringing our hands over.
And I tell you, I think it's, you know, Tucker Carlson came out and talked about how he was, he feels he was attacked by a demon, had claw marks on his back and everything else.
And everybody kind of ran by that.
But when you see everything that is going on, I don't know if you should dismiss that at all.
No, it would explain a lot.
And I'll tell you.
It explains a lot.
And I'll tell you, too.
I mean, we encountered these stories in investigating the supernatural, and again, cdn.comslash supernatural that definitively proved to me that this is very real.
This is happening.
And again, I think we only tend to talk about it happening to people like what Tucker was talking about.
That is important, and we focus a lot on that in the film.
But then pulling back and saying, well, why are we.
Transitioning children.
How do we get to a place, Heidi, where we thought that was okay?
And it's because we are being manipulated by these forces through the media and Hollywood and everywhere else.
There was a bishop that I played something from this week that said, you know, the Bible is becoming very inconvenient.
Well, yeah, it is.
When you're trying to change the truth, it does become inconvenient.
Billy, thank you so much.
If you haven't checked out his special yet, you need to cbn.com supernatural, cbn.comsupernatural.
Watch this.
Billy, God bless.
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So, this weekend, I want you to make sure you hear the next episode of the American Story Podcast.
It's episode three.
It's Spiritual Firestorm How the First Great Awakening Rewired America.
And it is about the Salem Witch Trials and what that did to America.
We were just talking to Billy about, you know, spirits and everything else.
And it is important that we take these things seriously, but it's also important that you stand on guard because it can be used against you as well as it was in Salem.
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The town doctor, William Griggs, is quickly summoned.
He examines them, his face growing more and more pale.
He can't detect the obvious physical cause, and so he provides the only diagnosis a Puritan village would accept in New England in the late 1600s.
The girls have been bewitched.
Betty and Abigail point fingers, first at Tituba, the Paris household slave who is from the Spanish West Indies.
She's a witch, they say.
She's tormenting us through dark forces.
Days go by, and the accusations begin to snowball.
12-year-old Ann Putnam joins in.
Her parents are tight with the Paris's.
Then, 17-year-old Elizabeth Hubbard, an orphan who works as a maid in Dr. Griggs' own home, the very man who diagnosed this. as witchcraft.
Suddenly, Salem Village is aflame with panic.
Disembodied spirits, the girls say.
They're stabbing them, choking them, pricking them with pins.
Soon, the four girls accuse two more women of being witches.
Sarah Good, a local beggar scraping by on handouts, and Sarah Osborne, a sickly widow shunned for her scandalous affair with an indentured servant.
More girls pile on the accusations.
The air in Salem is now thick with terror.
The whispers are contagious.
People are convinced the devil himself is loose in their midst, turning neighbors against neighbors in a frenzy of fear and suspicion.
Now, what started as a childish game spirals into a nightmare that will claim lives and shatter a community, an echo throughout American history.
But this isn't just a tale of hysteria.
It reveals a deeper rot in the soul of colonial America, setting the stage for a spiritual turning point that will reshape the colonies.
It is, you know, history of America, you can tell it several ways.
The universities tell it, you know, just tell all the bad stuff.
Many people on the right tell only the good stuff.
I think we need the good, bad, and the ugly.
We need true American history.
Because we're all of it.
We have done some horrible, horrible things.
And if we don't understand those things, we will repeat them.
You know, history doesn't repeat exactly, but it rhymes.
And we are seeing the same kind of thing where, you know, instead of crying witch, we're crying racist.
We are doing the same things that we did in Salem today.
And some of those things are real, some of those things are not.
The majority is not.
And we're getting lost.
And out of this is going to grow a spiritual awakening.
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