Glenn Beck addresses death threats against conservatives like Erica Kirk and Savannah Hernandez, framing courage as acting despite fear while criticizing the 1913 income tax as theft. He mocks Governor Kathy Hochul's reliance on high-net-worth individuals for social programs before interviewing Rep. Anna Paulina Luna regarding withheld UAP videos. Luna accuses low-level bureaucrats of defying congressional oversight, arguing that transparency is essential to restore public trust, drawing parallels to the declassification of 9/11 and JFK records. Ultimately, the episode highlights the tension between government secrecy and the public's right to know. [Automatically generated summary]
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Threats and Patriotic Duty00:05:49
Well, happy tax day.
I mean, I don't want to.
I'm going to leave my tree up for a week.
The celebrations just continue.
Don't you feel so patriotic on tax day?
We talk about that.
Also, a message to my conservative friends that are receiving death threats.
And really, it's more than just my friends.
It is the truth that needs to be spoken to all of us.
We live in interesting times, and more interesting times are coming our way.
And we have to choose who we are.
And UFOs and Anna Paulina Luna.
That's all on today's podcast.
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Our good friends at Turning Point USA had to issue this statement.
Erica Kirk, wife of late conservative icon Charlie Kirk, received some very serious threats in her direction, prompting her absence from the event in Athens, Georgia.
She was supposed to address the students.
She said, I was so looking forward to tonight's event at the University of Georgia with our vice president, JD Vance, but after all our family has been through, I take my Security team's recommendations extremely seriously.
Thank you for your amazing Georgia chapter for all of your support.
God bless you all.
Can we please leave this woman alone?
Can we?
Can we?
Please?
Just leave her alone.
What do you say?
We don't leave her without a mother.
And I don't know which side I'm talking to.
I don't know if I'm talking to the radical left or the real radical, dangerous right or those who call themselves the right.
I don't know.
But we have to start saying, All of us, that violence is not acceptable.
If we normalize this, we have a very dark day ahead of us.
Saturday, Harmeet Dillon chimed in on another friend of ours, Turning Point USA's Frontlines reporter, Savannah Hernandez, a friend of the program, former Blaze employee, and somebody I just have a lot of respect for.
She was.
There are multiple videos out.
She was up in, I think it was Minnesota.
Yeah, she was up in Minnesota and she was attacked by a mob.
And you can see all the videos.
She was exposing, you know, the radicals against ICE.
And she was there and she was attacked.
And she was going to be on the show today.
And I just got this note from her.
Glenn, you know I never would turn you down, but I'm struggling with some dizziness and head pain today and had to end up canceling all of my appearances for the day.
Please, my sincerest apologies.
I have a mild concussion.
I just need a day to recover.
Ricky wrote her and said, Oh my gosh, I hope you're okay, blah, blah, blah.
Please tell, she said, Please tell Glenn.
I'm extremely grateful for him covering the story and I would definitely be on if I was feeling better.
I did a couple of hits yesterday, but by the end of the day, I just felt really ill and I just haven't felt normal since.
So I want to talk to my friends and I want to talk to you as well because I have been there.
My first death threat happened in 2007, 2006.
I think it was 2007.
I was on a tour for the Christmas sweater.
And we had serious death threats.
My tour bus was run off the road.
It was a scary time.
And I know what happens.
Courage Amidst Fear00:07:49
You immediately think, it's not worth this.
It is not worth this.
My friends, my friend, we are in a time that is thick with credible threats.
And that's happening because the powers that you name the liars, the corrupt, the enemies of the Bill of Rights and the Western inheritance have marked you.
They want you silent.
They want you gone for a reason.
And I know because I have been there, I have heard that voice that whispers lies in your head, the oldest temptation.
Stop.
It's not worth it.
Step back.
Somebody else can carry it.
Please hear me.
Hear it from the marrow of every soul who ever stood where you stand right now.
You were born for times such as this.
Do you imagine the Lord is searching the earth today for somebody less frightened than you?
Do you think He's hunting for a heart that's never trembled?
It's not true.
He's not.
Every hero you knew felt the same terror that you feel now.
Every last one of them.
They were all afraid.
Read their words.
Even Christ.
Christ was in the garden, bleeding from every pore, laying on his face, begging, Father, please, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me.
The sinless Son of God tasted the full weight of what was coming.
He knew, and he still rose.
And said, Nevertheless, not my will, but thine be done.
Imagine how afraid he was.
He didn't cease to be afraid in order to obey.
He obeyed while and in spite of him being afraid.
That's the only courage that has ever changed the world.
Bonhoeffer standing against the Nazi machine.
Silence in the face of evil is evil itself.
God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.
He didn't escape the noose by being quiet, he escaped the greater death, the death of the soul that refuses to live by truth.
Stolis Nietzsche, rotting in a gulag for the crime of refusing the lie.
Gave us the simplest, most explosive command ever written for people who speak, who feel compelled to speak, but are afraid.
Live not by lies.
He wrote, Let their rule hold not through me.
He said, The courageous individuals.
First and simplest step is this I'm just not going to take part in that lie.
Not in my words, not in my silence, not in my fear.
I will not take part of that.
Lincoln, the nation is tearing itself apart.
The guy knew he was going to die, he knew it.
He wrote, It often requires more courage to dare to do the right thing than to fear to do the wrong.
One of my favorite lines from him is Let us have the faith that right makes might.
And in the faith, let us to the end dare to do our duty as we understand it.
He didn't wait until he was brave, he dared while the threats were real.
Martin Luther King literally bombs at his door, people shooting into his front room with his children in the other room, death threats by mail.
He still cried out, Courage is an inner resolution to go forward despite the obstacles.
He told us build dikes of courage to hold back the flood of fear.
Night before he died, he talked about going to the mountaintop.
I may not make it there with you.
He knew the mountaintop view included a cross, but he climbed it anyway.
Which brings me back to you and people like you.
The cup hasn't passed.
The threats are real.
The fear is honest.
But the calling is louder.
Concentrate on the calling.
You have already spoken the truth where others just whispered.
You've already exposed the rot when others just politely ignored it.
You've already defended the rights that our fathers and forefathers bled for and the civilization our mothers prayed would endure.
You know you can't lay it down now because if you do, the lie wins another inch.
And the corruption breathes easier, and the Bill of Rights becomes one more relic in a museum of forgotten freedoms.
But to all those with ears, if you stand, trembling maybe, yes, but if you stand, the lie is pierced, the corrupt are put on notice.
And somewhere a young man or a young woman watching you will learn that courage is not the absence of fear, it's the refusal to let fear right your ending.
The Lord is asking all of us to stand.
What an honor.
What an honor.
He's not looking for a fearless vessel.
He knows that doesn't exist.
He's just asking for a faithful one.
So heal, sister, and rise stronger than before.
Let the powers rage.
Let the threats come.
Let the night howl.
Rising Stronger Than Before00:04:19
You were born for this hour.
Say it with Stolis Nietzsche.
Their rule will not hold through me.
Say it with Bonhoeffer.
I will not be silent.
Say it with Lincoln.
I'll dare to do my duty.
Say it with King.
I will keep moving.
Say it with Christ nevertheless.
My will, not my will, but thine.
The cup is bitter, but it's yours.
Drink it and watch what God does with one woman, one man who refuses to quit.
The ages are watching, the West is watching, your children are watching, your children's children are watching.
So stand and live not by lies.
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Man, happy tax day, you beautiful red blooded patriot, you.
Oh, I love this day.
You know, when Joe Biden and Barack Obama said, this is your patriotic duty, and people want to pay more, they just want to pay more.
I thought that can't be true.
No, it is true.
Now, it goes against absolutely everything the polls tell us.
Six in 10 Americans say they feel they pay more than their fair share in taxes.
Top earning households, you know, the ones that are paying over 40% are the most likely to feel their taxes are a little out of whack, a little bit, a little bit.
I mean, I know what I did.
I paid, here, let me just tell you I'm a full tithe payer.
And I urge you to do it.
It's great.
But you give 10% of your money to God because you're lucky to have, you know, 90% of it.
And I know what God has done for me, you know?
He hasn't built any roadways.
No, he hasn't.
But he's done more for me than the United States government has.
And I give God 10%.
I give the federal government 40%.
Seems a little out of whack.
You know what I'm saying?
Seems a little out of whack.
But I'm not alone in that.
It's not just top earning households.
It is also middle income 65% say, yeah, I pay more than my fair share.
Lower income, now I don't even know if you're paying taxes in the lower income, but lower income 49% say, yeah, I pay more than my fair share.
So I think.
I think they may be wrong about this patriotic thing, you know, except for me.
I mean, I feel so patriotic today, you know.
I just feel that.
I feel freedom washing over me, you know, as I stare at the W 2 and I realize the government has spent already the last 12 months deciding exactly how much of my sweat, my overtime, you know.
I won't buy this this month.
You know, how much that money belongs to them.
They've spent a whole year doing it, and I appreciate it.
You know, it's a sacred American ritual where we all gather around the kitchen table and pour ourselves a stiff drink and celebrate by mailing our hard earned cash to people who definitely know how to spend it better than you do.
You know what I mean?
I mean, sure, I know how I would spend it, but there's so much, you know, months of grinding, months of saying no to family vacations, you know, or Timmy's little new shoes, you know.
Were shoes the best way to spend my money?
Probably not.
Probably not.
You know, not to my college fund for my kids.
No, no.
Real Heroes Unite00:02:27
Not to that side hustle that you've been dreaming about.
No, no.
It goes to the noble causes that make our life, I can't say better, but interesting.
You know what I mean?
It's always a fresh surprise, you know, surprise inspections or fresh regulations or forms in triplicate.
I love that.
I love that.
On tax day, really, nothing screams land of the free.
Like some bureaucrat in Washington deciding, you know, your business needs one more safety sticker that will cost more than your monthly mortgage payment.
You know, doesn't that just scream the red, white, and blue?
And let's not move past this without recognizing the real heroes, you know?
The real heroes in our society that we just can't seem to do enough for, you know?
I don't know if you've seen the news lately, but in California, Minnesota, in Illinois, and dare I say it, all throughout this fruited plain, there are people that we are helping.
We are lifting up.
You may not ever be able to afford a Mercedes, because that's a lot of money, let alone a Maybach.
Have you ever seen a Maybach?
Those things are sweet.
You may not be able to afford it, but together, together, With you working and taking your hard earned money and me working and taking my hard earned money in the spirit of unity, really, we could all chip in so some guy from Mogadishu can roll up in the top of the line Mercedes Maybach.
You know, the sunroof open, you know, not the big one, not the long wheelbase, you know, 65 inch wheelbase.
You don't need that.
You know, chauffeur, it's a little too much.
We're not monsters, you know, but you get the drift, you know.
We send in our taxes and, you know, a guy who's working, you know, at a warehouse double time just to pay his taxes.
We can send those and fund vacations we'll never take and buy cars that we'll never drive.
But aren't they worth it?
I mean, they're from Mogadishu and they're living off of us, but they deserve that.
Oh, man.
Progressives and the Tax Myth00:06:19
That glorious bipartisan all American waste.
I mean, happy birthday.
Happy birthday, America.
250 years in this grand experiment.
And, you know, we're having that, you know, that quarter millennium blowout.
And what better way to honor the occasion than bankrolling, you know, investigations that go nowhere?
You know, how many millions of dollars have we spent on those glorious investigations and reports that nobody reads?
And then nobody goes to jail.
We bought all of those bridges to nowhere.
We have studies on why pigeons in Central Park prefer.
Gluten free bread.
That's important stuff.
Nobody else in the world is going to do that.
Billions just vanish in black hole contracts, consultants who couldn't consult their way out of a paper bag.
You know, it might sound like I'm getting angry here as I'm thinking about these and listing them off, but I'm not.
It's just that I'm so patriotic, you know, about those programs so bloated that, you know, they make Uncle Bob's beer gut look anorexic, you know?
What would the founders say?
Oh, those powdered wig rebels.
What would they be proud today?
You know, they didn't have an income tax.
They didn't even dream of one.
In fact, they avoided all of that.
They thought it was wrong.
They thought it was theft.
You know, they fought a revolution over a tea tax that was basically some pocket change.
But good thing, good thing.
The progressives came along and changed all that.
1913, they said, you know what this republic really needs?
A little light theft, you know, out of everybody's paycheck every two weeks.
Because we have guns, we have jail, so we can just take it.
And we'll take it by force.
And we were like, no, you don't have to take it by force.
We'll send it in.
We'll send it in.
And they said, we're going to make it easier.
We're going to take it out of your paycheck.
That way you won't really notice.
And then when tax day comes, if you get a refund, you're going to feel great.
You'll be like, hey, I got a refund.
Well, no, actually, you just gave them that money throughout the year and then they held it.
You couldn't use it.
You couldn't.
You know, you couldn't gain any interest off it.
They could, but they'd already spent it on, like, I don't know, my box for people who are providing great care for people who are dying in hospice, even though they're not really dying in hospice and are not providing any care.
But they get a good, good car or vacation out of the deal or, you know, a nice $76 million bank account.
Man, progressives, I thank you.
Progressives.
Because we are making progress progressives, that's what it means, you know.
Progressive is to progress, like it's kind of like calling a root canal elective dental enhancement, but uh, that's what progressives have given us the income tax.
It's great.
So here we are, 250 years in, staring at the ghost of Jefferson and Washington, who would have set their wigs on fire if they saw what we had turned no taxation without representation into.
And by the way, that brings up another thing representation.
I mean, come on, our representatives, they're representing you, right?
Don't you feel represented?
You know, because they're representing themselves just fine with your money.
But hey, happy tax day, America.
And I'm feeling so damn patriotic right now, I could salute the flag and sing the national anthem and then just quietly curl myself in a ball and weep over my tax return.
That's how good I feel today because nothing says home of the brave.
Like voluntarily handing over your future so the machine can just keep humming along, greased with your dreams and our collective delusion that this is somehow or another noble.
God bless us, everyone.
Tiny Tim, say that?
Was he talking about America?
I'm not sure.
But happy tax day, you know?
I hope you have your tree up because I've been decorating it all night long.
And by the way, they don't think they have enough.
I don't know if you saw this, but Hokel.
Now, let me just take you that this is the governor of New York.
She is now saying that rich New Yorkers really need to move back from Florida.
Okay.
I want to make sure that we're smart about having a system in place that's not just about taxing for the sake of taxing and being conscious of the fact that I need people who are high net worth to support generous social programs that we want to have in our state.
So, do you hear what she's saying there?
I need people of high net worth because I need their money to do stuff in the state.
You know why I'm not a full time resident of Idaho?
I have a beautiful house.
In Idaho, we use it for vacation and, you know, for the end of the world apocalypse.
And I have a house in Idaho.
The reason why I don't live in Idaho full time, because I would live in Idaho.
Well, my wife wouldn't.
She thinks snow is a bigger deal.
But I think the biggest deal is that when I went to speak to some of the Republicans up in the House and the Senate in Idaho, and I was going to go up and help them raise money, one of the leaders, Came up to me, a Republican came up to me and said, Have you moved here?
And I said, We're thinking about it.
And he said, This is a quote We hope you do because we want to add you to the tax base.
And I said, You know what?
You've guaranteed that I will never move to Idaho.
Never.
But that was so selfish of me, you know, because they know how to spend my money much better.
You know, Florida, all these Floridians, they go down there or Texans, they go down there and they're like, Hey, I don't know how to spend my money.
I don't know how to help people at all.
And look what's happening in Florida.
It's just falling apart.
But anyway, she says, Hochel says, the tax base is eroding and we need to get people back.
And so she's got a new idea on how to get people back.
And you're going to love it.
You're going to love it.
You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.
Investigating Hidden Files00:14:10
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We have to come together and understand when we have a good story and when we have.
And when we have a good case.
And right now, there are a lot of good stories out there, but they're not necessarily good cases yet.
Think of yourself as a publisher of a newspaper.
Your reporter comes in and says, I got this story.
You're not going to believe this story.
Your job as a human being, as a good citizen, should be now to say, Great, give me all of the facts that back that up.
When there's not enough facts, you need to look at your friend and not in a crossway, just say, I love this story.
I want to run with this story, but you don't have enough facts yet.
Keep me informed.
Keep following this story and keep me up to date.
And if you're the reporter, you don't turn on the editor and say, What do you mean?
I got all the facts I need.
No, you don't.
You have a good story.
Facts matter.
Opinions don't matter.
Facts matter.
You got a good story.
You got a good theory.
Show me the facts on it.
Because there's a lot of things.
Tomorrow, I'm going to go into deep space.
There is a war in space right now that nobody's talking about.
And it's real.
And we should be paying attention to that.
But nobody's talking about it.
Then there's all of this UFO stuff, and I don't know what to make of this.
I really don't.
You know, one of my favorite people in Congress is Anna Paulina Luna.
She's from Florida, and she yesterday had a deadline that expired, I think, yesterday for the Department of War to release over 40 UAP, which used to be UFO videos.
Anna, you didn't get any of these, did you?
No, we didn't.
In fact, as soon as I got into the office, as you know, we were coming back from being in Florida, I had Mateo say, Have we received anything, like even a confirmation of receipt from the Department of War?
And they said, No.
I was like, You guys need to call over and see what happened because we've given them over 40 days for this, or a long time for this, rather, and them not responding is not acceptable.
And so it turns out, That it just so happens to be very conveniently that they never, or whoever did receive it, never passed it on.
And so, you know, the Department of War decided to respond to the House oversight saying that they would, you know, give us a briefing at some future date, which is unacceptable.
That's not really their call to make, that's our call to make.
And aside from that, I happen to be friends with Hugseth, and I also know that the president gave a very clear directive.
So, whoever's trying to be cute at the Department of War, that's not going to work.
We know that these files exist.
We've had and we gave them specific names and locators for these files.
And so for them to say that, you know, they don't have anything to present to us is a farce.
So we'll get it.
Okay.
So can you tell me?
And I know you probably have, you know, clearances that you have to worry about here.
And so I don't want to put you in a bad situation, but can you give us any indication what you think might be on these videos?
What are you looking for?
It's probably very similar to the previous videos you have seen released from ITAS.
So, as you know, Rhett Burleson released a very now famous video of one of these things deflecting a Hellfire missile, but it'll probably be similar content.
I think at the end of the day, like, we're not going to tell the American people what to believe, right?
But is it fair to say that if the U.S. government is continually denying access to these files, we know that they're there.
They're saying you don't have authorization or they're coming up with excuses as to why you can't see them.
Well, that's not their decision to make.
They weren't elected to office.
They're not the president of the United States.
They're defying the wishes and the will of not just Congress, but also the president.
And so it's our job to run it down.
So, can you tell me?
So, you're not out to prove one thing or another.
You're setting out saying, hey, this is not your information to hide.
And if you're going to hide it, you need a good reason that you tell Congress and say, here's the case why we think they should be kept silent.
Is that what you're saying?
Most certainly.
And what I've gotten really frustrated with is people that are, again, are not elected, are these low level bureaucrats or members of the intelligence community that are making decisions.
Decisions that have no authority to make those decisions, and then they think that they can, you know, defy congressional orders.
And so, really, I think that's kind of what we've been up against.
But ultimately, at the end of the day, I have seen stuff, other members of Congress have seen stuff and gone public with it that, in my opinion, is not created by us.
I don't think it's owned by China or Russia.
So, there's that.
But I mean, I'm not going to tell people really what they need to believe.
I think that that's on them.
Ultimately, though, I do have a massive issue with the denial of access to information.
And so, that's really what we're fighting here.
Especially as a congressperson.
That is your job.
The federal government doesn't understand oversight.
Oversight means nothing if you can't say, Show me your work.
Show me your work.
You guys, in the public sector here, you work for us.
My job is to make sure that you're not hiding things.
And that can only happen if they are held to oversight.
And honestly, on the flip side, it can only happen if they can trust that no one who are getting top secret clearances are going to leak stuff.
Well, here's the thing, too.
Like, if it was fake, then tell us why we can't see it.
But the whole way that they're handling this is, in my opinion, an admission in itself, right?
That they stonewall, they block, they prevent.
And then stuff does come out, and then they don't make comment on it.
So I think the whole way that it's handling itself is kind of, yeah.
It is funny the way they're handling it.
And it is, let's say there's nothing there.
I think there is.
I believe in little green men.
I don't know if they're going to be green or little, but what a waste of space if we're out here all by ourselves.
I don't know what we're going to find in those.
However, the way they are behaving at a time when the trust of the average American towards its own government is at record lows.
They should be doing everything they can to restore that trust.
For instance, my trust in the war machine was really lost under Biden.
I have more confidence in our Pentagon and our soldiers now than I've ever had in my life.
I mean, it's way off the charts.
However, I still have questions because too many things are secret.
I don't need to know about what's going on in this war right now, all the secret details right now, but you do.
If you're on oversight, you need to know those things.
And If you're trying to restore trust in our country, the best way to do that is transparency.
100%.
Why would you act this way?
Well, and that's exactly my point.
And they have been denying access.
And again, the famous story of me, Representative Gates, and Representative Burchett being denied access at Eglin Air Force Base.
And then the base commander famously gets up in the middle of the meeting, which I've never seen happen in my life.
Remember, Glenn, I'm a vet too, never seen this, and just decides that he's going to go on a temporary duty to Georgia in the middle of the meeting and doesn't return.
And then it turns out that we did talk with pilots and we did get confirmation that there were UAPs there and they didn't want to show it to us.
But the whole point is that this argument of, okay, so you have the American people, you have elected representatives, and then you have the Intel community, and then this internal war that takes place within the Intel community regarding declassification, et cetera.
This is not just siloed to UAPs, but I think it gets into the discussion on 9 11.
It gets into so many other issues.
What I will say is, you know, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Take me from a UAP quickly to 9 11.
How do you get there?
What's that tied?
Just big picture.
Yeah, so we've been pushing for declassification and release of the 9 11 files for the families.
And there's a select group, it's a civilian board that each gets a vote, and they vote on whether or not it's a recommendation to the president to declassify these files.
But the point is that we should have the files.
Here's an interesting thing that an investigative journalist recently told me, Glenn, but apparently.
And this does tie to also Jeffrey Epstein.
Apparently, Jeffrey Epstein was actually trying to work on behalf of the Saudi government to block the release of the 9 11 files for the families.
And that was something that kind of came out in investigative reporting.
So it's like an interesting, you know, quantum thread connection, right?
But I mean, this whole issue of government transparency, it is such a big deal for restoring trust.
You can see with the declassification order on the Kennedy files how much stuff we found out.
When those files finally came out, and multiple administrations had tried to release that, but it was the CIA that was blocking it until Director Ratcliffe came in and then fully authorized the declassification of the files.
Are you more concerned about finding out that somebody?
Because I'm going to do a story tomorrow about the war in space.
You know, nobody's talking about this, but there is a war in space.
China is, you know, right behind us.
And there are some things that they're doing with satellites that nobody's talking about, that, you know, we have to defend ourselves.
And they're doing things that are not real good.
Are you afraid that this is going to expose that?
We have enemies here that are earthlings that have technology that we are putting us way, way behind.
Or are you thinking this leads to little green men, for lack of a better term?
Yeah, I wouldn't say little green men, but I think that it leads to us not.
I think it leads to the reason why you're not seeing a push for the declassification as quickly as possible is because I think there are people that realize that if the US government can't explain it, I will say this if it was.
An adversary's technology, we would still not be number one.
So I don't think that this is technology that, you know, is owned by another government.
But there are just things that we can't explain.
And the reason I say it like that, because if I get too much in the specifics, sometimes people try to, you know, use it as a tax or whatever it might be.
But that's the fact.
We cannot explain it.
So, Anna, help me out on one thing.
One of your colleagues talked about how if we knew it would be.
Game changing that he has seen like hybrid experimentation or anything else.
Do you believe there's anything to this kind of stuff?
Well, we've had a number of whistleblowers come forward, people that claim to be whistleblowers.
There's both credible and not credible people, right?
In my opinion, it's always interesting within the UAP space because you have both good and bad actors.
You have people that are credible and are legitimate, and then you have people that I think are placed there to discredit.
The information or push for transparency.
And I think there have been people that have come across our past or that we've directly interfaced with that claim to have information and then end up being completely full of it.
And you say, okay, meet me in a SCIF, and then they don't show up.
Or they're really cagey about getting information.
They've never had first hand information, it's always second or third order information.
So I'm not basing my statements on that.
I'm basing my statements and my analysis on the information that I have seen.
First hand and directly with other members of Congress.
Is it more likely that we are looking at this time period right now and we have a government that is using this and actually, in some ways, making it into a possibly bigger deal?
By the way, they're doing it to deflect and to get people to talk about anything other than the actual corruption that is going on.
Or is it more reasonable to believe we're headed towards, you know, people think we're headed towards an event, an announcement of some sort?
Yeah, no, I don't.
I've seen those theories.
And, you know, the first shocking thing when I got to DC, Glenn, is there's no like room of geniuses trying to figure things out.
That's it.
We're the draft pick.
This is as good as it gets.
Right.
There's no like grain scheme up here.
And I think when you're in DC, you realize that, right?
Once you actually kind of get you ascend to this position.
In full transparency, this conversation really started because of what happened at Eglin Air Force Base.
And then Representative Burchett and myself and other members telling Comer we needed to do a hearing.
And then other members doing hearings on their committees, and then me getting the task force.
So there's no like grand plan here other than we believe that there needs to be transparency and we're pushing for it.
And President Trump agrees with us.
And of all people, I think Barack Obama agrees.
So, you know, there's that.
I remember when I was taking Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton's deposition, that came up in the questioning.
And Hillary Clinton actually also, too, never thought I'd agree with Hillary Clinton on something, but she also had the same opinion.
Hmm.
Well, Anna, always great to talk to you.
Thank you so much for everything that you do in Congress and for the great state of Florida.
And we'll talk to you again.
Anna Paulina Luna, the representative from Florida.