Senator Tommy Tuberville and Liz Wheeler dissect Iran's existential threat to the U.S., arguing radical Islam is a "death cult" seeking Sharia law dominance. They condemn Obama and Biden for unvetted immigration while supporting Trump's deportation efforts, contrasting this with Glenn Beck's view that America chooses alliance with Israel against nuclear Iran rather than being duped. Liz Wheeler refutes Joe Kent's unproven claims of deception regarding Charlie Kirk's legacy, emphasizing the urgent danger radical Islam poses to Western civilization and political merit over seniority. [Automatically generated summary]
You have to put on your thinking cap and actually listen and look at things from a different point of view.
A lot of people are saying that Donald Trump was duped by the Israelis.
I don't think so.
We're fighting the Israel's war.
Again, I don't think so.
I think Donald Trump is fighting his view, his war, to try to change the world and get us out of the things.
I'm going to give you an opinion.
It's not based on any fact.
It's just looking at what Donald Trump has been saying about the attacks with Israel, especially the new one today.
Is he playing a different game?
Is he not duped?
But did he choose to get in to be able to shape this war?
Listen to this theory.
Also, Liz Wheeler joins us to discuss Joe Kent's claims on why we went to war with Iran.
And Senator Tuberville has made some comments about radical Islam, and he is super, super clear.
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Coach Tupperville, how are you, sir?
Morning, Glenn.
How's it going?
It is great.
The enemy is inside the gates.
When you did that, I agree with you.
Did you have any idea what this would turn into?
No, I really didn't.
You know, I've been speaking on the Senate board for the past four or five months about the cancer that's inside our country.
And this Mendami is just making it worse and worse.
And, you know, it's been 25 years since 9-11.
We all remember that horrific day and who is responsible for that.
And now we've got somebody that he doesn't think really anything happened back at that time.
And he's going to ruin one of the top cities, not just in our country, but the world, because he wants the Islam to take over New York City.
So, Glenn, I love this country, and I've got young kids and grandkids.
And I tell you what, I'm going to fight it to the end because they are trying to take this country over just like they did Europe.
And it's time for not just me to fight back or you to fight, it's for the entire world that loves this country to fight back.
You dulled down a few days later.
You said radical Islam is not a race or a religion.
It's a death cult.
100% true.
What used to be common sense is now considered racist.
100% true.
Deport every Islamic terrorist.
100% true.
But the question is, how?
How do we do that?
When we catch them in the act or what do we do?
Well, yeah, people have to be educated on what's going on.
I think there's so many things going on, and we have such a great country.
Sometimes people just try to, you know, I don't want to get involved in that.
I want to live my life.
And I agree with that to some point.
But when people are inside the gates are here, they're in our communities.
They're walking our streets.
They're running for public office.
Folks, we need to wake up because there's 5 million Muslims in this country.
And I want to say this.
I've got some Muslim friends, and I talk to them regularly, but they do not study Sharia law or worship the Quran.
They are more of a Christian belief, or they are atheists.
They don't go by the death cult that is taught by Sharia law and the Quran.
And if you want to assimilate here and make this country better, hell, I'm all for you.
And that's what this country is made on.
But do not come here and try to change our culture, our way of life.
You know, they say, well, it's freedom of religion.
No, it isn't, because they believe in killing everybody else's religion in this country.
If you believe, if you're a Baptist or you're a Catholic or you're a Church of Christ or Methodist, they want you dead.
And so to me, is that freedom of religion?
Hell no, it's not.
And so it's time to fight back.
I will tell you, if there was a Christian religion that was preaching kill everybody else of other faith, I think we'd all be clear on that.
I think we would have stopped it immediately.
We would not let it just start coming into our schools and to our communities and taking over our communities like we have in Dearborn and a whole buttload of other places.
It's all over the West.
And you're right, what's happening in Europe?
I don't know your thoughts on this, but I don't think Europe can rebound from this.
You know, maybe England, but it's going to be really ugly.
And the longer we wait here, the more time we say, ah, it's not really a problem.
I'll deal with that later.
The later it becomes for us and the harder it's going to be to save the nation.
And that's what they want, Glenn.
They want you to kick the can down the road to think this is not happening, but they're slowly moving into power in this country.
We've got some people that are absolute morons in the house that believe that this is a bad country and we should change it to something else.
And guess what?
That's not going to happen, not on your watch or my watch.
We're going to fight it.
But at the end of the day, if you believe in having four or five wives, if you believe in selling your six or seven, eight-year-old daughter to somebody and have them married off at that young of age, you've got some kind of problem.
And it's not going to work here.
I'm telling you, it is not.
You have got to make this country better, and they're making it worse every day.
And so people need to start understanding.
It is not going away.
Obama and Biden brought them in here by the hundreds of thousands, unvetted.
They're stealing us blind.
They're going to live off the taxpayers.
We're broke as it is, and we need them gone as soon as possible.
President Trump's trying to do it, but how do you run that many people out of a country?
It's very, very hard.
You say another tweet of yours, wake up.
They want every single freedom-loving Christian and Jew dead.
I will not back down.
You're old enough to know what that means.
I will not back down.
We're not dealing with simple politics here, and you're not dealing with a foreign threat that is an ocean away.
Yep.
Well, chapter 8, verses 12 of the Quran says, Allah will instill fear in the heart of those who disbelieve, therefore strike them upon the neck.
Fight non-Muslims until the faith of Allah is fully established.
Folks, they're coming.
Okay, you got other problems, and you got families, you got a job, and all that.
It just needs to be in the back of your mind.
They are going to try to take over your kids and your grandkids' country.
And we have to talk about it now when it's starting to grow.
Because as you said earlier, Glenn, England, France, Germany, all these European countries are going to have to fight on the streets to get their country back.
Their kids are going to have to fight to the death to get their country back because it is that far gone and it can't happen in this country.
And so that's the reason we start now when the tree is starting to grow.
We see all these Muslim mayors being, you know, elected all over the country.
Texas has 300 to 400 mosques, and these are not churches.
These are organizational places where people can indoctrinate, teach, and bring kids to a point where they believe in this nonsense of hate all non-Muslims.
Let me switch, kind of, because I think the same people who are allowing this are the same people fighting in the Senate against the SAVE Act.
83% of Americans support it, 71% of Democrats.
And we've got Republicans.
I don't even know what their ration or reason is other than I'm lazy or I have some other desire that keeps power on my side by not pushing this.
I can't think of any good reason why this is not happening the way it needs to happen with a standing filibuster.
Where do we stand on the Save America Act?
And what do you see coming?
It's not good.
It's really not good.
The thing that I was with President Trump yesterday for a day and traveled with him to Delaware, and we brought back some young people that had lost their lives, one from Alabama.
And that's the reason I was with him yesterday.
And we talked, we all, there's four or five senators.
Mike Johnson was with us, and we talked about it.
And, you know, the one area that I think most people in the Republican side disagree with President Trump on this is the mail-in ballots.
And I understand that to a degree because we have, even in Alabama, we have people that are 30, 40 minutes away from the polling station.
We have farmers.
We have Montana, Wyoming.
You have Alaska that people are not close to polling places, so they need mail-in balloting.
So as President Trump said, hey, I can give in on that to a certain degree, but I'm not giving in on photo ID, which I totally agree with.
I'm not going to give in on citizenship proof of citizenship.
And I totally agree with that.
And they do too.
So I think we can pick a few votes up maybe with going that route.
But again, you know, we have senators stand up and say the tradition of the Senate, and I want to stand with the tradition of the Senate.
And as I tell them, I don't work for the Senate.
I work with people of Alabama, people of this country.
If it takes us busting the damn filibuster, let's go because they're going to do it the first day when they take over, and it's going to be over for all of us.
And as President Trump said, this is the final stand here for true Americans in this country to continue to keep hold of the country that they love.
And so we can't be hard-headed enough to think that they're not going to do it.
And if we want to get anything done, Glenn, we've only got one thing done since President Trump's been in.
That's the one big, beautiful bill.
And it took 18 hours, 18 hours on the Senate floor, nonstop, to finally convince 51 Republicans, no Democrats, 51 Republicans to vote for it.
And so you think today, I'll tell you, it's not going to pass.
We don't have the votes.
Now, things are going to have to change.
We're going to have to have an adjustment or two on some things on the bill.
But again, it scares me to death because 15 states, you can count them up, 15 states in this country are going to cheat the hell out of us every year because they're ran by blue mayors and governors.
It's rampant.
So that leaves you 35 states that you got to win.
And it's hard to do that.
And President Trump, as I tell everybody, folks, President Trump got union workers.
He got a lot of minorities.
He won 77 million votes.
But 77 million votes didn't come from Republicans.
They come from Americans.
They come from Americans.
Wake up and smell the roses.
This is not a Democrat-Republican deal.
This is an American issue that we have to solve.
And if we don't do it, we're getting ready to get our ass beat.
Can I ask, and I think I know the answer, but why are you leaving the Senate going to run the state and become governor?
You know, up here, Glenn, the way they have the rules set up, you've got to be up here forever to get any kind of chairmanship, to have any kind of power.
We don't do it by merit, which is what I disagree with.
I disagree with just because you've been up here 21 years means you get to be a committee chair.
And if you did away with that point and just say, listen, you've got to be qualified, you know, to be the education chair or the health care chair or over armed services.
You know, I wouldn't be a good chair on armed service.
I've never in the military.
You know, I love the country.
My dad was in the military.
But you put people in charge of something because of what you know and the good things you can do.
You wouldn't put an offensive guard just because he's been five years on your football team at quarterback just because he had more seniority because you never won a damn game.
Well, that's what happens here.
Everybody says, well, you need term limits.
No, you don't.
You need to do things on merit.
And if you did it that way, you'd have a lot of these people up here going, hell, I ain't never going to have any power up here.
So why would I stay?
That's the reason they stay so long is to get power.
And you look around at some of these chairmen we got going, how in the hell did they get a chairmanship?
It's because of seniority and not merit.
Well, Senator, I'm glad you're there while you're there.
And I wish you best of luck in Alabama on your drive to become the governor.
We need great, strong, very clear governors because I don't know what's going to happen to our country nationwide in Washington, D.C.
But if we can get good, strong governors in as many states as possible, at least the Republican last in certain areas, state by state, we'll take it that way.
Thank you so much, Senator.
Thank you, Glenn.
And you're exactly, that is the last stand for this country of strong governors.
And that's one of the reasons I'm running because you can protect your people and your country from that area more than you can, a senator.
If people want to get a hold of you and get a hold of your campaign and find out or help, how can they do that?
Do you have a website?
Yeah, it's either at Senator Coverbill or at Coach4Gov.
Okay, good.
Thanks, Coach.
Appreciate it.
God bless.
Thank you, Glenn.
God bless.
Thank you.
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I'm going to get into some of the things that happened, but did you see how Donald Trump yesterday came out and he tweeted, stop it, Israel.
Bad Israel.
Stop.
Israel is being reckless right now.
The oil refineries that they were hitting, the oil structure that they're hitting, that's not helpful, Israel.
Who said that last week?
Why are they doing that?
As I was thinking this through yesterday, it occurred to me, and I went and I did some homework.
Has this ever happened in history before?
And yes, it has.
And so I want to present a theory because the story being told to you right now is really neat.
It's really simple.
It has a villain and a victim, a manipulator and a man who is supposedly led.
It says one leader whispered into the other lies, and the other leader was duped into it.
Oh my gosh, I've got to follow.
History almost never works that way.
Nations don't drift into wars of this scale because somebody whispered a lie alone.
Most times, if not almost all times, it's because pressure has been building, sometimes for years, sometimes for generations, until the moment arrives when someone decides the cost of waiting is greater than the cost of acting.
And to understand this, you have to begin where the pressure is the greatest.
Where is the pressure greatest in the world when it comes to Iran?
Some will say, well, it's Iran because they're being bombed.
No.
Israel.
Israel looks at Iran differently than the West does.
The West is, Iran is a policy problem.
Israel sees Iran as a deadline.
I wrote a chalkboard today and just divvied it up into three.
Iran, Israel, and the U.S. We're Big Satan.
But who do they promise to kill first?
Little Satan, right?
Little Satan.
That's Israel.
We're Big Satan.
They have said over and over again, the Israelis, the Jews will burn in the fires of the Islamic fury.
And as they're saying that, they're building nukes.
They have 400 to 600 kilograms.
That's about 1,000 pounds of enriched uranium.
And they're 12ers.
And you'll really understand this if you've been following it all on the program.
This is what the Iranians believe.
The Iranian regime has spent decades funding proxies, building capability, repeatedly, openly, consistently saying and acting in the way that follow their words that Israel will cease to exist, that the Jews will die.
Now, that can be rhetoric to us here on this side of the planet.
But if you're an Israeli and you've got a state just, you know, a California distance away and that state is the size of two Texas, you know, you look at things differently.
History has taught them something that Americans have just the luxury of debating.
When someone tells you repeatedly they intend to destroy you and kill you, eventually you have to decide whether to believe them or not.
So inside Israel, this is not a conversation about strategy.
When do we go in?
Well, I don't know.
Is it going to cost us more for gasoline?
That's not, this is a question of survival for the Israelis in their mind.
So when a nation believes its survival is at stake, especially a nation that was built so the Jew can survive, it doesn't wait for global consensus.
It acts.
And it's happened before.
1981, Israel struck Iraq's nuclear reactor without permission.
2007, it destroyed Syria's quietly, decisively, because in their doctrine, if a threat is existential, delay is the most dangerous choice of all.
So now, I want you to imagine this mindset, and it's really hard.
You have to imagine, to get in this mindset, imagine that Mexico had been bombing us over and over again, had killed thousands of Americans, and they were across the border saying all the time, we're going to kill every one of you.
And then they're building nuclear weapons.
And your intelligence, forget about anybody else, your intelligence says they're building missiles and they have a thousand pounds of enriched uranium, which will be enough missiles to wipe us off the face of the earth a thousand times over.
And they keep saying they're going to do it.
And you know, because you're living here and the Mexicans have been bombing, they have invaded and they've killed thousands of us while saying this, it's different.
So Benjamin Netanyahu, let's say he comes to the White House, which he did, sits across from the American president, and the intelligence is laid out.
And the clock, real or perceived, is ticking.
And he makes it clear.
We're going in with or without you because we believe this intelligence.
We're going in.
And Mr. President, we're going to take care of this once and for all.
We can't do it the way you can.
But Mr. President, if we wait and they get a nuke, what's your reaction?
Your reaction will be, I'm not firing a nuke.
We have to lay off them now.
I will not be the first to nuke.
But we believe that they will nuke us first.
So if they're close to a nuke and we can't finish it, we will nuke them.
It is in our best interest.
My job is to protect the Israeli people and Israel.
And they are not some sort of a math problem like they are in the rest of the world.
They're a real threat to us.
This is not theater.
This has happened before.
So now the decision shifts.
Not whether Israel will act, but will Israel, is the United States going to have any influence over how that action unfolds?
Because the president has spent all of this time trying to tie the Middle East together.
He was going to go in at some point.
He had said it.
I'm going in.
But you have an ally now that is saying, we know you're going to go in, but the job has to be finished.
And if you don't do it, that's okay.
We're fine.
We'll do it.
But we're going to pulverize them.
We will destroy their ability.
And the president knows that will put the entire Middle East into chaos.
Because we just learned from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Please let us do it our way.
Mr. President, we will go in with you.
We have the same goal here.
But this is where the story changes.
And it's not being duped because we were going to do it anyway.
But things change.
We've seen this moment before.
1956, during the Suez crisis, Israel, Britain, France moved to seize the canal.
They believed they were acting rationally, even that they had to do it.
Eisenhower saw something else.
He saw chain reaction that could pull the Soviet Union and fracture the world.
So America stepped in, not against its enemies, but against our own allies of France and forced them to stop.
Everybody's like, why are we getting involved in that?
To force them to stop so we could control the situation.
1973, Yom Kippur War.
United States rushed to support Israel when it was on the brink.
But Israel, it began to win decisively.
Washington grew concerned that victory might trigger something larger.
So Henry Kissinger worked to slow the momentum and to contain, not defeat, but contain success.
1962, Cuban Missile Crisis.
Greatest pressure was not just between the two nations, but within one.
The military here in the United States urging immediate strikes.
Hit them.
Hit them hard.
Hit them now.
John F. Kennedy chose something else.
He chose the path that restrained his own side as much as it confronted the Soviets because he understood how quickly action could become annihilation.
So the pattern is here.
This is the way we do things.
When allies feel existential danger, they move quickly and they're willing to go further than anyone else is comfortable with because they believe they are the target.
We don't believe that.
Every president has said that they believe that, but nobody has had the stones to do anything.
Why?
Because you don't believe that.
The American people don't see this as an actual threat.
When a superpower sees the broader system, the dominoes, the alliances, the escalation ladder, it moves to control the scope of that action.
And sometimes from the outside, but sometimes from within.
So consider this possibility, just a theory.
United States didn't enter this conflict because it was misled.
It's because we face the choice of two wars.
One, it could influence that we were going to do anyway.
And one, it could not.
If America stands aside, Israel acts alone.
And when a nation believes its survival, its very survival is on the line, it doesn't calibrate for global stability.
We were being led by the nose by Benjamin Netanyahu.
That makes no sense.
If we were duped into the war and we're fighting Israel's war, why then would President Trump say, stop it?
Stop hitting the oil fields.
They have different goals than we do.
We came in and quite honestly, again, imagine we've been hit by Mexico and NATO decided to step in and said, okay, okay, we'll help you solve this problem because it's a problem for us too because Mexico and the cartels are coming for us next.
So we'll do it.
But Europe wouldn't see that as a threat to Europe.
Germans would be like, it's America.
Who cares?
We're not involved in that.
Why would we get involved?
Just like we do.
They say the same thing.
And if we saw that Europe was starting to fold and Europe was like starting to say, we don't want anything to do with this war.
Why are we in this war?
We got to get out of this war.
And we saw that maybe NATO was starting to weaken and they were not going to finish the job, what the hell do you think we would do?
We would do exactly what Israel is doing.
We would burn Mexico to the ground if we had to, if we believed that they were going to burn us to the ground.
This is not simple.
War is not simple.
Killing people is horrible and it's not simple.
Solving things where people want to wipe a whole group of people off the face of the earth has happened over and over and over again.
And why is it we just expect to have a simple little answer?
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
I'm telling you, continuing major combat operations in Iran.
Israel just hit more, you know, a gas field struck by Israel.
And I can guarantee you the president's going to come out and say, stop it.
Stop it.
If you missed my theory last hour on what is really happening, trying to make sense of, you know, Benjamin Etanyahoo, he's a zombie doctor.
He can put everybody in a trance just by walking in the room.
And all these Israeli spies are whispering their plans in the ears of our politicians at night.
You want to make sense of the world?
Let's talk reality and history.
If Israel was influencing us, how did that happen?
And I'll show you, history would show you exactly how something like that could have happened.
And it's not that.
It's not that.
Charlie Kirk's Opportunistic Claims00:09:06
But it could happen because we have the same goal and kind of different goals.
Make sure you check it out if you missed it.
It's on the podcast today, first hour, hour number one.
You can find that at glennbeck.com/slash torture, wherever you get your podcast.
Liz, welcome to the program, host of the Liz Wheeler Show on Blaze TV.
Hi, Liz.
Hi, Glenn.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Liz, are you as tired as I am of dealing with the crap instead of the real issues?
Yes, times about 100.
I just listened to your full first hour monologue, and it's a fascinating theory, by the way.
Very plausible, very complex, which I think you said at the very beginning of your monologue: you have to be an adult in the room to be able to parse through this because it is complex.
But you were speaking a couple of weeks ago, and I mean, we're less than three weeks from when President Trump began his military action in Iran, and you were pointing out that his action in Iran following the military action in Venezuela from what a month or two ago aren't just isolated military operations,
but they're part of a larger geopolitical play against China to dilute China's power without militarily or even with a trade war directly confronting them.
And I thought, you know what?
This is the brilliance of Donald Trump parsed by the brilliance of Glenn Beck.
And your monologue today is the exact same way.
Obviously, there's no proof that those conversations that you were laying out happened in the exact way that you were laying out.
No.
But if that was the case, if that is what happened, then it's actually funny that they gave, and it's always funny, that they gave Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize because it's Donald Trump who shows protection,
defensiveness, strength, self-control, and restraint using the U.S. military to actually do what we in America are supposed to do, which, yes, is protect the world's moral order to a certain extent without being neocons.
It's a brilliant hypothesis.
Well, thank you.
I mean, I don't, again, like you said, I don't know if that's true, but I don't, you know, that, and that is the problem with Joe Kent.
He claims, and my sources in the White House told me that this is not true for a myriad of reasons.
He was asked not to be in any of the briefings.
But he claims that he was there at the White House.
He has firsthand knowledge.
He saw things go down, but he's not giving proof.
I'm a podcaster.
I'm not even a journalist.
I'm somebody who my job is to take all of the information that I can see, all of the facts and everything else, and then make sense of it and try to help people make sense of it.
But he comes from the national security world.
And if you're coming out and saying Israel duped the president, you damn well better have proof.
You can't just say you're not a podcaster, man.
You have implied knowledge and implied experience.
So come out.
Otherwise, I think you're just being absolutely reckless.
Reckless.
Would you agree?
Yes, there's one other word that I would use to describe, I think, what has happened over the course of the past 48 hours with Joe Kent.
And I will wait to use this word for one moment while I lay this out.
I'm a very open-minded person about allegations against politicians.
I am willing to believe almost anything about any politician on either side of the aisle as long as there's evidence.
So when Joe Kent, very high-ranking official, obviously now the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center comes out and makes these allegations, two of them specifically in his resignation letter, that President Trump was somehow tricked or duped by Iran or by Israel into this military action with Iran, and that there is no evidence of any threat that Iran poses.
And he wasn't perfectly clear about whether that's a threat that Iran poses to the world or to Israel or to the United States or to citizens of the United States abroad.
When he makes these claims, and then in his appearance on Tucker Carlson last night, he added a third very significant claim to these two that were contained in the resignation letter.
The third claim being that there was a foreign nexus or an international nexus to the Charlie Kirk assassination that he was told not to investigate.
If these claims are true, by all means, show us why they're true.
I will, I mean, if these claims were true, Glenn, you and I actually should know.
If these claims were true, he actually should reveal them to the American people.
He shouldn't keep them to himself.
Liz, I said when he first came out, I said, if these things are true, these are actionable.
These are things that you must act on.
They must be exposed and we must know and correct.
But if you don't have the proof, you're just throwing matches on gasoline.
That's exactly right.
So that's where, of course, I become very skeptical of these claims because in his position, he would have access to evidence to substantiate each one of these claims, and he provided none.
None.
Now, none.
But what he did was immediately run to two podcasts.
Last night he was on Tucker Carlson.
I believe he's scheduled to be on Candace Owens today.
Podcasts with enormous audiences, but coincidentally, podcasts where he is the least likely to be asked the one question that he should be asked, which is, Joe, where's the proof of your claim?
Where's the proof?
And so that's where I get to the word that I would use to describe, and this is just my analysis as someone who's been in this industry for over a decade.
I've watched a lot of people pursue a lot of opportunities, some in good faith, some in bad faith.
This seems very opportunistic.
This seems to me like someone, and I know there were reports yesterday that he is under FBI investigation for leaking classified information.
The details of that remain murky.
We don't know all the details yet.
I will tell you, and I'm sure you know this as well, Glenn, it is an open secret in Washington, D.C. that Joe Kent is a leaker.
I personally know information that Joe Kent has leaked, not related to these allegations, but related to other things that he has leaked to other people.
This is something that I'm surprising the nation by saying today.
This is a well-known fact.
This man, if he is under investigation and he wants to avoid a potential prosecution, what would be the best way to do that?
The best way to do that would be go on a podcast tour with hosts who are not going to challenge him for the evidence to substantiate his claim.
So are you saying then he would charge the reason why they're coming after me is because I said these things.
I revealed Israel as the bad guy.
I believe so.
I believe that's what we'll see in the days and we've come to the point.
If they do that, he's also trying to discourage them from actually coming after him by getting a certain segment of the public opinion on his side.
You know, Liz, my kids never did that in the background.
My kids were perfect angels.
It's her debut on national radio.
She's going to be a broadcaster.
She's got a lot to say.
So, You know, the one thing you just brought this up about Charlie Kirk, and can I'm so sick of hearing about Charlie Kirk and what his beliefs were, you know, right before he died?
Because I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk right before he died, and he said, you know, I really hate Joe Kent.
He's just a bad guy.
And now I can't prove that.
I have no, but it was the last conversation that I had with Charlie Kirk.
He said, I really think Joe Kent's a bad guy.
Can you stop with this stuff?
Stop with the Charlie Kirk's last conversation was fill in the blank, please.
I can't take it.
Now, if you have a text from him, you have something, and you can see the whole context of it, great.
But can we stop saying, you know, his final words were, it was Israel that did it.
Can't take it.
It's so disrespectful to his legacy.
It's so disrespectful to his family.
The funny thing about it, Glenn, is that we have an absolutely enormous library.
That man was on air constantly, and he opined on every topic on the face of the earth.
And there's no doubt in anybody's mind about what he thought about any particular topic because he talked about them all.
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All the time.
So all the time.
So the people who are trying to hijack his legacy, put words in his mouth when he cannot correct them.
It's, I mean, it's despicable in a sense because the worst type of accusations that you make against someone are false accusations where they're unable to come back and correct the record.
And that's essentially what's happening when people are trying to use Charlie Kirk and the grief that we all feel and the respect that we all had for him when he was such an influential leader in our country.
They're trying to use that to push, they're using that as their mechanism of persuasion for their fringe ideas that they cannot sell on their own merits.
It's despicable.
You know, we do know that Charlie, in his writings and public podcasts and everything else, he saw radical Islam as one of the biggest threats of the West.
He also saw neocons and endless wars, but those don't necessarily go hand in hand.
They can.
You can have a neocon that uses that radical Islam as an excuse to get you into a never-ending war.
But there also may be wars that should be fought because of the threat of radical Islam to the West.
So they don't always go together.
And that's the one thing that, you know, without the context, you could say three years ago, yeah, Charlie said a year ago, Charlie said, don't let us get into a war with Iran.
Well, but what is the buildup to that?
What are the actual facts on the ground?
That can change, you know?
And I think we should be aware of, you know, the threat that radical Islam we're facing right now.
Is this going to hurt this war?
Is this going to hurt or help wake people up in Europe and the United States on what is actually happening to the Western civilization?
Yes, I think that's correct.
And actually, going back to Joe Kent's resignation letter, I think your point is substantiated in something that he said that struck me yesterday when I was, you know, reading that letter multiple times to try to understand his perspective.
He, Joe Kent, in writing his resignation letter, was already referring to President Trump's military action in Iran, which, like I said, it's three weeks tomorrow, less than three weeks at this moment.
He was referring to it as a forever war.
And I read this and I said, what exactly makes this a forever war when it's less than three weeks?
And a president whose entire history of action has been limited military interaction to use the U.S. military to go in, complete an objective and get out twice this year already.
He's done this, or twice in the last year, I should say, last summer with the 12-day war and then in Venezuela.
What exactly makes this a forever war?
And it just kind of illuminated in my mind this fallacy that some of these isolationists fall prey to, which is to associate any use of the U.S. military with a forever war, therefore rendering any use of the U.S. military as somehow immoral, which is not rational thinking.
It's not logical and it's not reality.
The reality is we have a U.S. military for a reason.
And one of those reasons is exactly what you're talking about in your special tonight, which is this looming, growing, deeply embedded threat in the United States of America, which is the ideology.
I don't even want to call it a religion, the ideology of Islam, which seeks to establish a global caliphate.
It seeks to turn the United States into an Islamic state.
And if we don't use the U.S. military to take that threat out abroad while it's festering, then we are going to quite literally be killed by that threat in our own backyard.