Glenn Beck and guests Brad Meltzer & Carol Roth analyze President Trump's potential Insurrection Act invocation against Minnesota violence, arguing founders would deploy troops like during Shays' Rebellion to prevent republic collapse. They warn this sets a dangerous precedent for suppressing lawful dissent while exposing a globalist "new world order" orchestrated by elites aiming to reset the West by 2027. The discussion highlights looming capital controls in states like California and New York, rising bankruptcies despite falling mortgage rates, and fears that Supreme Court tariff rulings could empower China, ultimately framing the conflict as a struggle between American sovereignty and global planners threatening economic freedom. [Automatically generated summary]
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We have the president now saying that he may pull out the Insurrection Act.
Something I'm actually for, but I warn you, we are in such dangerous territory right now.
And, you know, the one thing that I'm really sick of, I am really sick of all of these people who just have opinions, like me, honestly, like me.
America doesn't need more people like me.
America needs more facts, actual facts, and then take the argument and look at it from both sides, especially when it comes to the Constitution, because we're entering.
There are two things I'm going to talk about today in the Constitution.
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The Constitution Trade Deal00:02:18
The Insurrection Act is the same.
That could cause civil war or it could save the Republic.
We shouldn't look at any of these things lightly, and we should not be looking at our team jersey and say, I'm on that team.
No, I'm on team constitution.
So what does the Constitution say?
Let me make, I'm going to make a case for the Insurrection Act and a case against using the Insurrection Act up in Minnesota.
I'll tell you my opinion on it.
Then I want to take a vote from you, the listeners.
You can do that at GlennBeck.com.
And then I'm going to, we put it through Chat GP, or sorry, George AI.
And we asked the founders, the documents all in our vault for the founders, what would they have done?
And their answer is fascinating.
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Why It Wasn't Peaceful00:12:01
Okay, so the last time that the Minnesotans had a peaceful protest, they burned their own city down.
And everybody in the press is saying, oh, it's just peaceful protest.
Mostly peaceful.
No, it wasn't mostly peaceful.
It wasn't.
And anybody who cares to recognize the truth knows that wasn't a mostly peaceful protest.
Okay?
This is direct confrontation now between federal law enforcement carrying out legally authorized operations and organized resistance on the ground that repeatedly turns violent.
That is not theoretical.
That's what we're seeing documented in real time.
And we're hearing the leaders say the same kind of thing.
Let me take you back to Tim Waltz.
I think it was at the beginning of the week, where he was talking about how he wanted to use the National Guard because we were headed towards civil war.
Listen to this.
Our history.
When things look really bleak, it was Minnesota first that held that line for the nation on that July 3rd, 1863.
And I think now we may be in that moment that the nation's looking to us to hold the line on democracy, to hold the line on decency, to hold the line on accountability, and more than that, to rise up as neighbors and simply say we can look out for one another.
All of that is really good.
All of that is really good.
We can look out for one another.
But he went on to talk about how he is training the National Guard to be able to stand up against the federal officers.
And they couch it two ways.
You got to get involved.
You got to get out in those streets, knowing that that is ratcheting up problems because they're saying he's Hitler.
This is fascistic.
These guys are not doing their duty.
Why are they masked?
All of these things that make people think these are the Nazis.
I've got to stop the Nazis.
Okay.
They're also covering for themselves part of the reason why the feds are in Minnesota is because of this massive fraud screen and scheme that he helped put together.
Okay.
The other thing is the governor, I mean, Mayor Fry of Minnesota, he was speaking, I think it was yesterday, and he has the chief of police behind him.
And if you are watching at GlennBeck.com, you need to see the face of the police chief when he says it.
But listen to what he says.
Go ahead.
Mayor Fry, do you have it?
And we're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking the very limited number of police officers that we have to fight ICE agents on the street, to stand by their neighbors.
We cannot be at a place right now in America where we have two governmental entities that are literally fighting one another.
Amen.
Why are we put in this position?
We're put in this position because we have approximately 600 police.
It doesn't matter who's put you in this position.
You don't do it.
You don't do it.
And at least he was saying, but you'll notice that he was couching this with, hey, they want people in Minnesota, want the police to join in and fight.
But we understand why you feel that way.
We understand, but we can't.
And you can see it in the face of the police chief thinking like, you are out of your mind.
What are you doing?
Okay.
The Federal Immigration Enforcement, ICE, the operation in Minnesota, an ICE agent was attacked two days ago with a shovel and a broom handle by multiple suspects.
He was carrying out an arrest.
He responded in defense of his life, shot one of the guys in the leg.
The men have since been identified as illegal immigrants.
What a surprise from Venezuela.
The first one was from Venezuela.
The second one was from Venezuela.
But the third one was from Venezuela.
And they were beating the ICE officer.
Now, who arrested them?
Did the police come and arrest?
Because that's the police job.
That is the police should have been there and said, hey, we have this under control.
You're under arrest.
Take on them in.
And then by law, according to the Insurrection Act, it wouldn't have been a problem if they would have said, we're not cooperating with ICE.
We're not going to turn them over to ICE.
Might be a problem for you and me, et cetera, et cetera.
But my understanding from reading the Constitution, they cannot participate, but they can't actively thwart.
Okay.
They can't get involved and thwart and work against the United States government.
And once there is violent attacks on any federal agents, once the federal government cannot carry out its federal duty because the court system or the system of the police or the governor is thwarting them and actually obstructing them, then you have insurrection.
Okay.
Imagine if you are standing in the middle of a crowd and you're chanting, block the feds, stop them at all costs.
That's what's happening on the streets, except it's going beyond speech.
It's not a peaceful protest.
real people are physically interfering with federal agents conducting sanctioned enforcement actions.
Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and freedom of petition means peaceful.
Once you start actively engaging, that's out the window.
Then you layer on top of that the actions of the state leadership from the governor and everybody else.
It seems like they're encouraging all of this stuff, not condemning any of this stuff.
You've got a real problem.
So the the perspective of the president and his advisors, there comes a point when the rule of law is under threat.
When you have federal agents being attacked while attempting apprehensions, crowds that have repeatedly thrown objects at officers, causing internal injuries, other kinds of injuries as well, local officials unwilling or unable to assert state authority against that behavior, then you can argue that ordinary law enforcement and all of its mechanisms no longer are sufficient to preserve order and protect the federal officers doing their duty.
That is precisely when many constitutional lawyers say the Insurrection Act, that's what it was designed for, designed to be invoked not because people don't have a right to protest, they do.
Not because they don't have a right to disagree with policy.
You absolutely do, and I will fight shoulder to shoulder with you for that.
But because the machinery of law enforcement is being repeatedly obstructed and federal officers are being targeted in the performance of their duty.
That's what the Insurrection Act is for.
So the president in his statement framed this not as a vendetta, but as a defense of legitimate authority.
We have people that need to be rounded up.
We have people that are here.
They're dangerous.
They're illegal.
They need to be taken out of the country.
That is the federal government's job to do that.
And the state is thwarting it.
They're also thwarting it because they're trying to get away with massive fraud.
So if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE, this is what he said yesterday, who are only trying to do their job, then we, yes, will institute the Insurrection Act.
The framing matters because it shifts the question from can the people protest to who upholds the law when that law is being resisted.
And before you say this is a peaceful protest, it is not a peaceful protest.
There are documented cases, lots of them, of assaults.
Watch the news.
Well, depending on who you're watching, look for the tape.
It's everywhere.
Okay.
And if that isn't the threshold to bring in the Insurrection Act, if that's not the way we pull it in, well, if that's not what they had in mind, I don't know what to do.
I mean, they gave the president extraordinary power to preserve civil authority.
The same constitutional logic that says a governor cannot lawfully encourage or tolerate organized opposition to a federal enforcement, just as the president cannot stand idly by when federal officers are attacked.
That tension between order and chaos, between lawful protest and violent obstruction, is exactly the kind of crisis the Insurrection Act was written to address.
And in the face of escalating violence and political obstruction, some would argue it has to be considered, if only to protect the rule of law.
Who protects the law?
Who protects the Constitution?
Look, it was an insurrection.
That's what they keep calling it on January 5th or 6th or whenever it was, you know, up at Capitol Hill.
Would they have let that go on for days and days and said that was just, that was nothing but a peaceful protest?
Of course not.
And I wouldn't have either.
It wasn't.
It wasn't.
When you have people beating cops, when you have people breaking windows, you have to stop it immediately.
The president was the one who said, where's the National Guard?
But the left didn't want the National Guard there because they wanted that act of insurrection.
You wouldn't have done it for January 6th, and you shouldn't do it now.
That's my opinion.
That's the president's opinion.
But let me make a strong case for the other side, and then we'll let you decide.
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Okay, so same situation here.
Let's go through before we cross a line that we can't uncross.
Let's slow down, not politically, not emotionally.
The Insurrection Act's Dangerous Precedent00:04:21
Let's look at things constitutionally, okay?
Because the Insurrection Act is not just a tool in the toolbox.
It is one of the most extreme domestic powers a president can wield short of martial law.
And once you normalize this use, you don't get to decide who uses it next or for what purpose.
This is what my fear is.
It's going to be used against us.
Okay.
When they get in power, they'll use everything.
They don't have these conversations.
I respect the Constitution.
You do too.
So we have to be very, very careful.
Federal agents have been assaulted, and that is real.
That's serious.
And those responsible should be arrested, charged, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
But here's the question that matters.
Is this an insurrection?
I won't, I'm just going to give you the opposite side here.
Or is it just criminal violence within a functioning civil order?
Because they're not the same thing.
An insurrection is not defined by anger.
It's not defined by even shocking violence.
It is defined by the collapse of civil authority when the courts in the state can no longer function, when the police will not enforce the law, and when the state itself has ceased to govern.
That's what has to happen.
You know, the Shays rebellion, this is around the turn of, you know, the beginning of our country.
It was because I think it was Massachusetts, the court system was being attacked.
Nobody would let the courts make any of the decisions.
And so the federal government had to come in and put that down.
Is this Minnesota today?
Because the courts are open, the police are operating, and arrests have been made.
State institutions, however flawed, however political, still exist and are still functioning.
So that matters because the Insurrection Act was designed for moments like the Civil War when states are, and here you go again, here's your really thin line, when states openly defy federal court orders during, they did it during desegregation and moments when the law itself had failed.
What you're seeing now, is it the absence of law?
Is it conflict within the law?
A governor can oppose federal policy.
A state can sue the federal government.
People can protest, even loudly, even angrily, as long as it doesn't become a rebellion.
The Constitution doesn't require obedience to federal policy.
It requires obedience to federal law and disagreement must be settled in court, not by force.
Now, here's the really dangerous part.
If we redefine insurrection to mean violent resistance by individuals combined with political opposition by state leaders, then we're seeing a standard that will be used again by somebody else or for something else.
Because once the threshold becomes the president believes the state leadership is encouraging a resistance, then federal troops can be sent in for gun rights, protests, environmental riots, labor strikes, you know, campus unrest, election-related demonstrations, all justified by the same argument, local leaders are not doing enough.
We are facing some of the toughest decisions that we will face in our American life as civilians.
We are going to have to make really tough, principled, constitutional decisions.
This is not a conservative principle.
It is not a limited government principle.
That is not an American first principle, that executive power is unmoored from restraint.
Yes, the attackers are illegal immigrants.
Yes, they're committed to violent crimes.
Yes, ICE agents must be protected.
But criminal violence, even organized criminal violence, has always been handled by law enforcement, not the military.
So if the answer to violent crime becomes federal troops in American cities, then we have quietly accepted something the founders feared above all else.
A standing army enforcing domestic order at the discretion of a president.
Constitutional Decisions Over Criminal Violence00:14:57
And once that door opens, it doesn't close neatly.
The president, I think, is right about the danger.
And he might be even right about the negligence.
He may be right about the politics.
But the Constitution does not ask whether he is right.
It asks whether civil authority has collapsed.
And if we evoke the Insurrection Act before the collapses occurred, then the greatest casualty will not be order.
It will be precedent.
I want you to think about this.
Now, I have the answer from George A.I., which is from all of the founding documents.
And I think you might be amazed at what they said, what it predicted they may have done based on their writings in the 1700s and early 1800s.
We go there and your comments next.
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All right.
Let me look.
Do you have any results from the poll yet?
We've asked the insiders to chime in.
Maybe Jason can run in here real quick and get us what the insiders are saying.
And we'll look at the poll at glennbeck.com.
We just ask it real quickly.
But I laid out the two, I laid out the two sides.
Insurrection Act.
And I, you know, Jonathan Turley just wrote last night that he believes that the president does have the authority.
I believe the president has the authority, but I want to be really careful and not emotional about this.
I don't want to do it out of anger or anything else.
I want to make sure that we are very, very careful on all of these things.
But I think if you look at, I mean, the country is, it's under attack.
It is under attack.
This is a color revolution that is going on, and it is well documented.
And all of these people are involved in it.
And this is just their way of furthering a color revolution.
And part of that is to claim, is to create such chaos so you can claim, because you have control of the media and the educational system and everything else, that you can claim, see, this is a fascistic dictator there.
He's got to go.
That's the whole end of a color revolution.
Create enough chaos so the government must make moves that appear to be fascistic.
This is not a fascistic move.
This is a constitutional move to protect.
So tell me what the insiders are saying on this.
It's fairly, there's a good conversation going on right now at Glennbeck.com.
They're going back and forth.
I want to highlight Rodney 3124.
He said, there isn't a perfect answer to if we should invoke the Insurrection Act.
He has absolutely justified the president in doing so with the obstruction of justice by public officials.
Unfortunately, he will likely have to do so in order to prevent open rebellion.
Yes.
If he doesn't, it's only going to, it'll go to New York.
It'll go to California.
This is going to happen everywhere.
I just highlighted this comment in the insider feed, but there was one really, really good question from Gidd.
Gidd's kind of my boy.
He's always got good comments.
Gidd said, how do I explain this situation to my friends and family?
Because a lot of times it just gets very emotional.
And if I'm trying to make this point and then everyone ends up getting annoyed.
Number one.
Number one, listen to them.
Listen to them first.
When you can repeat their argument back, that's when you can start making your comment.
When you can say, tell me what you're feeling.
Tell me what is happening.
Listen to them.
Don't interrupt.
You can even take notes.
And then when they're done, you say, okay, I want to make sure.
This is what I heard from you.
Is this what you mean?
Is this accurate?
They're going to stop and go, yeah, well, there's some other things.
Good.
Tell me that right now so I have it.
Let me repeat everything I've heard.
Okay, now it's my turn to talk.
Let me answer some of those things.
Let me show you the evidence that you're wrong about this, this, or this, or perhaps you should look at it differently because of this, this, and this.
I listened to you.
I understood your argument.
I would ask that you, as my family or my friend, would give me the same opportunity.
Listen to what I say, take notes, and then repeat back unemotionally everything you heard me say in a fair and balanced way.
When you're repeating them back, don't put vitriol into it.
Express it the way they're expressing it.
Then demand that same respect.
If you don't get that same respect back, you're not going to make a difference.
But if, and you should just stop.
But if you can get with people who will give you the same respect back, that means you have a citizen that wants to fix the problem and understand.
We are not going to fix this.
Look, you know, I just did the both sides monologue, you know, made the case for and against, and I chose that.
That's not going to make me more popular.
In a world gone mad, everybody wants me to pick a side.
And I have a side.
And I'll tell you what my side is.
I already have told you.
But I am trying to make the argument for the other side as well.
So you at least hear both sides.
You've got to hear both sides.
And especially unconstitutional, unconstitutional matters.
These are this and the trade.
I'm going to get into trade later.
These two things are massive right now.
They could mean the end of the republic.
I want to get to Gail because Gail's perspective on this is exactly what I've seen from a lot of people, including people like Joe Rogan.
But listen to this.
Gail says there has to be a way to get the Minnesota authorities to heal and support federal law without using the Insurrection Act.
Using it will just fuel the Hitler narrative about Trump.
And I have conservative friends who are buying into that narrative.
I do too.
And that's why he has to be extraordinarily careful.
But he is, I believe he is justified because what are you going to do to get Tim Waltz?
Again, I go back to the color revolution.
You have people that are trying to pull off a color revolution.
I don't know if Tim Waltz is part of that or not.
I do know Tim Walz is involved in massive corruption.
So that gives him a reason to discredit and thwart and cause all kinds of chaos.
So those feds never come walking into his house and knocking on his door.
That's the motivation here for the left on that.
Color revolution and also corruption with Tim Walz on his side.
So we asked George A.I., and George A.I. is the collection.
I don't know how many documents we have in there, but tens, if not hundreds of thousands of documents in there now, and it's getting bigger every day of all founding documents.
It's the Federalist Papers.
It's all of their letters back and forth.
We are growing this thing exponentially every day.
And it does not know anything about the present day situation.
Okay.
If we have to come up with hypothetical situations and we don't want to put anything in and it's all roped off, it has to memorize all of their words so it can't hallucinate and it cannot pull from outside of their documents.
So it's not like ChatGPT that can give an opinion or pull from something else.
It is only based on their writings.
Okay.
So we asked George AI, and this is going to be the George AI that's released later on Glenbeck.com.
So we asked George AI, what do you make of a situation like this?
And we explained the situation as best we could without picking sides, without using names.
What should the federal government, what would the founders have done?
Let me just give you this.
The ink on the Constitution wasn't even dry.
The new republic was fragile, barely tested, and already it was catching fire.
Western Massachusetts was boiling over.
Daniel Shays and a mob of dissatisfied veterans and farmers are closing in on courthouses, armed and angry.
The state government is outmatched.
What do they do?
The Shays rebellion was, I mean, you want to talk about having the sympathy of people?
These were soldiers who fought in the revolution and were not being paid.
And they were going broke and they were struggling and they were going to lose everything and they needed their pay from the government.
They fought in the revolution.
We're veterans.
Where's the money you promised us?
So you want to talk about sympathy being on their side?
Sympathy was on their side.
But they were going and they were obstructing the courts.
They were causing all kinds of problems and some of it was violent.
So what did we do?
The founders sent in the militia.
Not cheering, not stomping.
It was just a desperate, a desperate move to avoid collapse.
And it was very controversial at the time because people said, look, they're just becoming King George.
They're just sending in everybody else.
Okay.
The laws of Massachusetts were being ignored.
The judiciary was being threatened and the entire government of the people by the people was under threat.
they sent the troops in let me repaint the scene but this time instead of going back let me paint the scene now Federal laws get passed, but a bunch of state governments raise their hands and say, no, not here, not in our town, not in our state, not in our courts.
Then they go further.
They tell their police departments not to cooperate.
The governors speak publicly, even approvingly, of people mobilizing in the streets, dismissing the violence, saying it's a mostly peaceful protest.
And it's not just a protest.
It's to actively block and confront federal officers, and it turns violent.
All of that is true.
So we asked George, what would the founders do?
And here was the response.
George Washington or Madison or Hamilton or even Jefferson see the Insurrection Act.
Would they see it as the right tool in a mess like this?
Not would they support authoritarianism because that's lazy thinking.
Would they see this kind of national fracture as justifying federal boots on the ground?
Let's use Washington because he was the one who hated, he and Jefferson hated it the most.
Okay.
Not trigger happy, but he was also not naive.
So he becomes president in his first terms, in his first term, and the whiskey rebellion is there.
Again, it's all about taxation.
And we're starting to tax whiskey.
And the whiskey people are like, what are you doing taxing?
You just become the king again.
And so there's this rebellion.
What did he do?
He not only sent in the troops, he led the troops in to put that rebellion down.
He actually wrote in himself as the head of the militia, and he wasn't doing it to intimidate the population.
He was not doing it because he loved federal power.
He hated this act.
He went back and forth.
What do I do?
But he saw, he knew what happens when the center loses authority.
If the center starts to crumble and fall apart, the republic would be over.
So they hated tyranny.
But they hated disunion just as much, if not more.
Their biggest fear was not a king.
Listen to this.
Their biggest fear was not a king.
It was lawlessness dressed up as liberty.
And that's exactly what we're getting today.
Now, he would not be sending them in quickly.
He would not be doing it lightly.
He would not be beating his chest.
He would not be doing it for vengeance.
Our founders wouldn't have done any of that.
He would have done it to restore the system of government that we have all voted on.
This is the way it works.
These are criminals that they are rounding up.
They're criminals.
And we haven't even gotten just to the people who are here because they wanted a better life.
We're still at the really nasty criminals.
The three that just beat that ICE officer with an inch of his life just two days ago, they were part of a nasty, nasty gang.
All three of them from Venezuela.
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How are you making this about, you know, little Jose who just wants to go to school and wants some, you know, some Cheerios in the morning because he couldn't get anything back home in Guatemala?
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That's not what this is about.
We're not even there yet.
This is not, I don't think, this is resistance.
This is rebellion.
And I will tell you, I do not, I was not for the use of insurrection in an easy, lazy way.
January 6th, the media and the and the left immediately came out and called January 6th an insurrection.
And I told you they were doing it for a reason.
It was the most dangerous thing since the Civil War.
That insurrection of January 6th, it lasted one day and it came under control.
Okay?
President spoke out.
It came under control.
Lasted a day.
This is lasting weeks.
This is only getting worse.
They define insurrection on January 6th.
I don't think that was insurrection, but okay, they defined it.
This is much more of insurrection than that ever was.
But I don't want to become like them.
I won't look at their standard.
I'll look at the constitutional standard.
And I believe the president is justified to calmly, rationally make the case in a very serious way, hold a conference in the Oval Office, don't call anybody names, just state the facts as the Constitution lays it out, show exactly, have somebody of credibility to make sure you're there making the case, have them step up,
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So I just said I don't want to become everything I despise um, but I also don't want to continue to play the game.
We've always played it, uh as um.
You know, Donald Trump is the first president who's like, I'm not going to listen to the State Department anymore.
I believe peace can be achieved in a different way.
And look what he has done.
The Insurrection Act, I want to make sure it's absolutely constitutional and I want to do it exactly the right way.
But I will tell you, I'm not afraid of doing it because our spineless weasel worms in the GOP have shown us where that takes us.
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The world is being divided up right now, and Mark Carney just made a very interesting move.
In fact, can we play the statement from the Prime Minister of Canada yesterday?
A Coordinated Reset of the West00:13:16
He said something really important.
Listen to what he just announced.
As you mentioned, mine is the first visit of a Canadian Prime Minister to China in nearly a decade.
The world has changed much since that last visit.
I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.
Oh.
Okay.
I think he was just talking about.
You know, America is becoming so totalitarian under Donald Trump.
We need to get away from that evil, evil, evil totalitarian stuff.
So we're going to run to communist China.
This is extraordinarily dangerous.
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Okay, so the Canadian prime minister has declared a new world order and praised the leadership of President Xi Jinping.
Okay, I get it.
But they are talking about making them their central ally now.
They're talking about getting into a security pact with China.
This is extraordinarily dangerous.
I want you to know who Mark Carney is.
He is a central banker.
He was the head of the London or England Central Bank, London Central Bank, English, England Central Bank.
So he is like our Fed.
He is all in on that.
Beyond that, he was also on the board of trustees, the foundation board of trustees of the WEF.
He was appointed the head in 2019, the head of the global banking committee for global warming and all of that crap.
He is one of the architects of the great reset.
So when he talks about a new world order, he means a new world order.
And this is what you're up against.
You are up against a couple of things.
You are up against people in China that 2027 is their year.
They've said it, not me.
2027 is the year they want to assert themselves as the dominant world leader.
So you have communist.
They want to take over the world.
You have the WEF and Europe that I don't know what they want to do.
They want a new world order, but they're so spineless and toothless now.
I don't know how they're going to, unless Donald Trump is taken out.
You have Donald Trump saying, nope, it's going to be an American century and we're taking this hemisphere and we're going to protect our hemisphere and liberty is going to live at least here.
And then you also have the communist radicals here in the United States who are trying to topple us, you know, the people who are trying to put on a color revolution, in addition to the Sharia law people.
So everybody's fighting.
We're fighting on what?
What is it that we're fighting for?
We're fighting for gas prices.
It's Trump's fault.
No, it's Biden's fault.
The border case, the border chaos.
It's Trump's fault.
It's Biden's fault.
It's the Democrats.
It's the Republic.
Climate change.
Somehow or another, it's still Trump's fault.
But this is the trick.
This is the world's WWE.
This is the world wrestling match of the entire world.
The real show is happening offstage because the real show is being planned.
All of it's being planned.
We're just participating in a show they've planned.
And it's not just an American show.
This is a global show.
The leaders in Brussels recently, a couple of weeks ago, met to discuss security.
Somehow or another, have the whole European continent ready, military ready by 2030.
Good luck with it.
How are you going to do that?
How are you going to do that?
You don't have the functioning economy anymore to do that.
So instead of fixing that, Brussels wants to pump out more regulation, you know, and a $2 trillion green war climate rebuild everything plan.
This is why Donald Trump is after Greenland and so very clear.
NATO is over.
Europe is over.
Canada is waffling.
Well, we better have, if we want a golden dome, we better have Greenland.
We cannot let the Chinese or the EU who will be against us in this Western hemisphere, at some point they will be, because everybody's fighting for their own new world order.
Donald Trump wants a new world order that bases everybody on their own country.
You be strong in your own country.
We have a set of rules and laws that we all agree to, but we are not going to do this globalist stuff anymore.
Europe is blaming Russia and carbon.
We're blaming MAGA and misinformation, all different costumes, all the same director.
It's all about saving the planet or defending democracy, but the pattern is really all about control.
And the more control the system gets, the less sovereignty you have over your job, over your choices, over your data, even your thoughts.
Again, I take you to Mark Carney.
What is he thinking?
Donald Trump is an authoritarian, so we're going to throw our hat into the ring with communist China.
The only upside is, I guess, you know, if you conflate all Muslims with Sharia law, which is a horrible mistake, I guess you could say, well, the upside is there won't be a single Muslim living in Canada because China kills anybody that wants Sharia law.
They just round them up.
There's no trial.
They just kill them.
Okay, all right.
Well, I guess if that's what you want, Carney, this is an amazing move by Canada.
And we just have to understand that this is a game for the whole world.
You're watching a slow motion wealth transfer from the middle to the managerial elite all throughout Europe.
You're seeing it happening all over the world.
And we're not far behind because every build back better, every trillion-dollar package, every temporary emergency measure moves us closer to the same cliff.
We're all there because as we know now, a ton of money just went to NGOs to sow the seeds of our own destruction.
How many billions, how many trillions, in the end, how much of this debt has been caused by NGOs and others who are illegally scooping stuff off of the top and just using it for their own illegal purposes to enrich themselves or to overthrow the government?
How many of your tax dollars have been used for your own destruction?
And I think the people involved, and I mean everybody involved, everyone involved in this should go to jail.
And I believe for the first time, I do not like bringing up treason because it's the only thing that actually is in the Constitution, explains exactly how you find them guilty and has a defined punishment.
It's execution.
I don't like ever saying treason, but I think if you have been involved in taking money from our treasury and sending it over to our enemies, or you have been part of a scheme that has taken billions of dollars away from the United States, the citizens of the United States and used it for your own, I do believe you're involved in treason because this is massive.
This is part of overwhelm the system.
So it collapses.
And unless we punish the people who stole the billions from us, and I mean at the top, not the bottom, the billions that have been stolen, possibly the trillions of dollars that have been stolen, we are finished.
We have work we have to do.
And that goes beyond the headlines screaming, you know, Trump or the Democrats or Minnesota or Putin or, you know, ICE.
It's not.
This is not about left versus right anymore.
It is the people versus the planners, the people like Carney who just said a new world order.
There is a new world order that Trump is designing, and he is the only one that says we should base it on individual countries.
Everyone else wants to cobble everybody together and make it a global order.
Trump is saying, no, we will make it based on individual countries.
We'll still work together, but we're not doing this globalist thing anymore.
And, you know, you want to manage yourself.
I want to manage myself.
I want to live freely.
And I don't want people who are managing us as humans in the name of safety or climate or equality.
But we are in the end phase of all of this, but it doesn't need to be.
It's getting very, very dangerous.
And you should be very aware on how close to the edge we really are.
You could wake up tomorrow to a completely different world.
I made a prediction, I don't know, a year ago or so, and I said by 2027, in 2027, you're not going to recognize the world again.
Now, I said that in 2008, and I think we hit that about 2017, 2018, where I said everything you thought you could believe in, everything was up is now down.
Liquid is solid.
I think as big of a change that has happened to you since 2008, and as big of a change that has happened to you and our country and your understanding of the world and the country, I think that kind of change is coming again in the next 18 months.
I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so because everything is on a razor's edge right now and everybody is being backed into a corner.
And it's not Donald Trump that is backing everybody in a corner gang.
First of all, I'd rather rip the band-aid off right now.
Let's get to it.
If we're going to get to it, let's stop denying.
Let's rip the band-aid off.
Everybody else, all of our enemies, they are planning for all of this.
They are working towards the destruction of America or our way of life, the Western way of life.
You don't think the Sharia law people are working for that?
Just need more time and then they'll pull it off.
Of course.
You've got to deal with it when you still have a chance of beating it.
But every step we take to dismantle the NGO system that's taking all of these money, the WEF, anything we can do to distance ourselves from China or countries or honestly continents that are destroying themselves and putting their own people in jail for freedom of speech, the better.
I mean, I don't want to be confused on who's going to fight with us and who's not.
And I am under no illusion.
NATO is not on our side.
And it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
They are destroying themselves by putting in these policies.
Coordinated Reset of the West00:03:02
They actually believe in all of these things.
They're going to do it.
It's not going to work.
And they're going to be, they're over.
Europe is a matter of time.
It is over.
I want the global elites that are playing chess with our nations out.
But we cannot sit here and argue about the color of the board.
We can't just doom scroll all day and then blame the other side and pretending it's just politics.
We need to zoom out and realize this is a coordinated reset of the West and the entire world.
A slow dissolve of freedom under the layers of expert management like Kearney into a new world order.
But the collapse will only happen if you continue to believe in the illusion.
If you stop thinking they've already won.
So think, read, look for the deeper meaning.
Start questioning the things that are deeper than just the headlines because the minute you start engaging with, I really think Hulk Hogan, you are missing it.
That's a show.
Go for the planners of that show.
Find out who they are and see what they're trying to do to your emotions every time a new wrestler comes on stage.
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But let me just show you.
Canada PM Taken to US00:03:47
This is a future photo of the Prime Minister of Canada on a plane in the middle of the night.
Being taken to the United States.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying possibly.
I hope not.
But possibly.
Possibly.
I would never really count anything out at this point.
a darn thing what I would I discount you know this thing with Greenland I Donald Trump do you understand who Donald Trump is Donald Trump negotiates from a position of power.
Now, I'm sure he respects what Carney has just done because that is negotiating from a position of real power.
Oh, really?
You don't like that?
Well, we're going to China.
We'll find out if he was bluffing or not pretty quickly.
But Donald Trump would have respect for that kind of move.
You know what he doesn't have respect for?
The EU has just sent in troops to Greenland.
There's 12 of them.
What?
First of all, you could send in all of the troops of the EU and it would not be scary, you know, because it involves the French, but it would not be scary at all to the United States.
But when you send in, what?
I mean, a couple dozen, maybe?
We got 18 guys here, Don.
You don't know who these guys are.
We got Fred.
We have Fred and Fred's a monster.
You don't want to mess with him.
Are you kidding me?
That and the army of Greenland?
You know why Greenland is not called Iceland and Iceland is not Greenland, right?
They wanted everybody to think, I'm trying to remember how this came out, but I think the pirates were coming over, something like this.
And they needed to believe, everybody to believe that that was Iceland, not Greenland.
And so they switched names or something.
I mean, you know, when you're switching, when you're a country that can get away with switching names, like, you know, like we took American over just overnight, we were like, we're Canada.
And then we put the name United States of America up on Canada.
What?
We're Canada.
That's not negotiating from a position of power.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
But not that I want to go in with troops.
That's the last thing I want.
But Donald Trump negotiates from a position of power.
And I don't think the EU has any at this point because they know they're done.
They know you don't have the money.
How are you going to fight?
How is that country going to fight?
They have no money.
Not that we do, but they have no money.
We're just crazy enough just to keep spending it.
And it seems like our military is pretty darn sound.
Do you think the EU, do you think the mighty, mighty force of Italy is frightening at all?
I mean, the only one ever in Europe I'm ever afraid of, you know, is Germany.
I mean, I think, and that comes with good reason.
Don't ever count Germans out.
And so you're like, well, the EU does have Germany, so maybe we pay a little are eight of the 12 Germans because we may have to reassess here.
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I doubt it.
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One of my favorite guests we ever have on is Brad Meltzer.
And usually we schedule an hour, but there's so much going on in the world that I can only get a few minutes with him today.
But he's got a new book out in the Escape Artist series.
It's book number three, but you don't have to read one and two.
You can get right to it.
Can you give us a synopsis of the Viper here without giving away the whole plot?
Of course, my friend.
A man walks into a funeral home carrying his favorite blue suit because he's got a terminal disease and this is the suit that he wants to be buried in.
But here's the thing, Glenn, you know, if you open up in your local bank a safety deposit box, then paperwork gets filed.
The government can track it.
Same thing if you go to the UPS store and open up a P.O. box.
But if you secretly sew something into the lining of your suit and you hand that suit over to your local mortician, you have an ultimate untraceable hiding spot.
So the man leaves the suit in the funeral home, goes back to his hotel where there's a man with a gun waiting for him.
Says, where is it?
Our guy says, I don't know what you're talking about.
The man with the gun shoots him dead.
That suit's still in the funeral home.
You won't believe what's hidden inside it or who's about to find it.
And that is chapter one of the viper.
So good.
So good.
I just, I love the way you think and I love the way you put real stuff in.
So this idea of hiding in the suit, that's all real, right?
I mean, it could be done.
I mean, you're making it up, but it could be done.
Yeah, yeah.
I went to a funeral home and saw it.
Wait, wait.
What?
I went to a funeral home and I'm going through the funeral home researching and I see this door and it's got a big padlock on it.
I say to the funeral director, what's in there?
Because he's showing me around and he says, oh, you're going to love this.
He opens up the door and there's all these old suits and like, you know, like what your grandmother would wear to a wedding, like a sequin gown.
And he says, if you're old and you don't have a lot of family, you pick out what you're going to wear to your funeral.
But it's also got like a Jets jersey in there.
There's a cowboy hat that someone says, my ex-wife hated this hat.
Make sure I'm wearing it in my coffin.
Like people are wild.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, my God.
And I said, that's the best hiding spot I've ever seen.
Okay, so this whole book is about hiding and disappearing.
And I want to get into some of the disappearance part of this.
But can we go back?
We had a conversation maybe two years ago.
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We had a conversation about the mortuary at Dover Air Force Base, the best mortuary in the world because of what they do to take care of our soldiers, et cetera, et cetera.
But you did not tell me something that played a role in this book and you actually thinking this way is on 9-11, somebody hid a secret.
They were on the plane on 9-11 and they hid a secret.
And the secret was found.
We don't know what it was, but you've confirmed it.
This is an amazing story.
Listen to this.
This is one of the most incredible stories I've ever been a part of.
When I was researching my book, I went to the morticians and I said, have you ever seen like a, could someone hide a secret message on their body, maybe in a tattoo?
And they said to me, if you're on an airplane and the plane is about to go down and you write a quick note and then you eat that note, that the liquids in your stomach will actually preserve the note upon the crash.
And I said, oh, that's a really good idea.
And they said to me, that's not an idea.
It really happened on 9-11.
One of the morticians who I was talking to was one of the people, you know, all the Dover's where not just our fallen soldiers go, but where the 9-11 victims went.
And they were working on one of the bodies there, and they found a note that someone ate on 9-11.
They would not tell me what was in it.
But that's what I used in the book.
And it was one of the most chilling, incredible stories from the firsthand person who did it and found it.
So we don't know what it said, but I would imagine, I mean, you'd have to be military or a spook or, I don't know, a mortician that would know, eat the note, and it'd be protected.
Don't you think?
Of course.
This is someone who's smart, right?
This is someone who knows what they're doing.
And the thing that was amazing is on that day, they gave me other details as well that said, you know, at one point they were working on someone and the FBI came racing in and was crowded around them.
And they were going, why do they want this person that I'm working on at this point?
This is a different body.
And they realized quickly that the body they were working on was actually one of the pilots of the plane.
It was one of the terrorists.
Because what came in were pieces of people, you know, things, and they were trying to put truly things back together to piece together what was happening.
And I was blown away.
Like, as you said, someone who has the wherewithal to do that on a plane and know to do that, we forget that, yes, fallen soldiers go to Dover.
But when the space shuttle exploded, those bodies went to Dover too.
And even in Venezuela, right now, all the CIA people that helped us with this operation, all our CIA people around the world, if something goes sideways, their bodies go to Dover as well.
And Dover is where truly it's America's most secretive funeral home.
And that's where I set the Viper in all my books because, you know, the morticians there will spend 12 hours rewiring someone's jaw, smoothing it over with clay because a family wants to see their fallen soldier's son one last time, rebuilding someone's hand because someone says, I want to hold my son's hand one last time.
These are the best of the best of us working on the best of the best of us.
And obviously became the best setting for a book for me just to honor these people and show the dignity and respect they show our fallen troops.
So you do, I mean, obviously, we just say, you do amazing research on all of your books.
And this one centers around, I mean, it's the Escape Artist series.
And this one centers around kind of the, you know, just disappearing.
Is it possible to disappear in today's world?
Well, Glenn, you know, I've taken my readers into the secret tunnels below the White House, into the labyrinth below the Capitol.
For the Viper, I wanted to do witness protection to see, can you disappear?
And I was obsessed with it.
It's one of the hardest things I've ever had to research for obvious reasons.
They're not going to tell you, you know, how witness protection works.
And when you think of witness protection, what do you think of?
You think of the mob.
You think of Tony Soprano or the Andrew Goodfellas.
And, you know, a mobster testifies against another mobster and you try and put them away.
And that's why witness protection was built.
It was built to take down the mob.
And it worked.
It actually worked.
But it's not like crime went away.
So what happened was, is witness protection, instead of having mobsters in it, suddenly started having gang members in it because gangs started thriving when the mob disappeared.
And then 9-11 hit, and guess what happened?
We started chasing terrorists.
So terrorists became the biggest group in witness protection.
You want to know one of the number one groups in witness protection right now is actually accountants because data is king right now.
And the thing that I love, just to directly answer your question, is figuring out how you hide.
And witness protection, the Marshal Service, who have nothing but respect for.
And it's funny, I'll tell you this one thing is the other day at a book signing, a U.S. Marshal came up to me and said, I work for the Marshal Service.
I love your book, The Viper, and I want to tell you where the secret safe house is.
And I said, what are you telling me for?
I could have used that two years ago.
I already wrote the book.
But the best part was, is I wanted to know how you do disappear.
And they said to me, and this is true, that no one, the Marshal Service has never lost anyone in witness protection as long as they followed all of our rules.
That's the caveat.
And here's the thing, is it used to be if someone moved to your neighborhood, you could look at them and say, I want to meet them or I don't want to meet them.
And that was as far as you got.
And then if they moved in and they were in wind distractions, you didn't know.
But now if someone moves to your neighborhood, what do we do?
We immediately go on Zillow and we Google how much they paid for their house.
We check their Facebook page.
If they don't have a Facebook page, well, now that's even more suspicious.
So now we've got to check even more.
We look up to see whether they have a criminal record.
We see if they're on a pedophile list.
And witness protection itself has had to adapt to that.
You can't just make a fake driver's license and call it a day.
You have to build entire things.
And the hardest part of disappearing is this.
And this is the secret: is that when you disappear and they try to make you have your new identity, their big rule is you can't contact anyone.
So you have to leave your family behind.
Sometimes you leave your sister behind, your brother behind.
One of the biggest things you leave behind for the most part is your dog.
A lot of people know your dog.
And that's one of the ones that people, you know, it's hard to leave your dog.
You may want to leave your mother-in-law, okay, but it's hard to leave your dog.
And the thing is, is after six months, you say, I want to just see how he or she is.
And that's what messes people up.
That's why it's so hard to disappear.
So, but can the average person do it?
You know, the government can do it because they can get in and do all of this stuff.
But how do you get around facial recognition?
And can the average person, if you were going to make me disappear and it wasn't the federal government that was behind it, could it happen?
The way it happens is you have to say goodbye to technology.
That's the number one way.
As you said, and facial recognition, there are ways to beat it.
It's getting harder and harder because obviously it's now not just your face anymore.
It's your eyes.
And, you know, I know how to beat, you can beat handprints.
We can do that.
But as it gets more and more high tech, but again, you have to leave all that technology behind.
And everyone says, well, I can leave technology behind.
But the hardest thing to leave behind is your life.
What they said to me is that there is a call of home.
There is a call from your past.
And when you want to check up on that family member, when you want to check up on your old dog, when you want to check up on someone you love that you miss, you go, people say, you know what?
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I'm just going to make one phone call and I won't make another one.
It's over.
And that's where the mistakes come.
That's the thing that messes everyone up.
But it's possible.
You can do it.
Wow.
One thing I have to congratulate you on.
You are going to be, and this is a dream come true for you.
You're going to be writing a Superman Spider-Man comic book with Marvel.
How?
Oh, my God.
How cool is that?
I mean, the first time, was it the first time that we met, we started saving the Superman house in Ohio?
We did.
I'm in Cleveland.
This is what I love about you.
I'm in Cleveland, Ohio right now, where we save a house.
Oh, my God.
You helped me raise money to save that house.
My final event in the book tour right now, it ends in Cleveland, the birthplace of Superman.
And I've been keeping this secret for six months, Glenn.
But everyone knows that DC is Superman and Batman and Marvel is Spider-Man and Iron Man and the other ones we see in the movies.
And every 10 to 25 years, they have a crossover.
It's only happened like, I think, three times.
The first one was from this year is 50 years ago.
This is the year that celebrates the 50-year anniversary of their first meeting of Spider-Man, Superman.
And I got a call from six months ago from Marvel Comics, and they said, we're going to celebrate the 50th anniversary.
Superman and Spider-Man are going to team up in one book.
And Brad Melcher, do you want to write it?
And that sound you heard was me fainting right there in the moment.
But it's a dream come true because, you know, our love of Superman comes from the same exact thing.
And it's that the most important part of the story is not Superman.
The most important part of the story is Clark Kent.
And why?
Because we're all Clark Kent and we all know what it's like to be boring and ordinary and wish we could do something beyond ourselves.
It's the same reason why I love those soldiers who go and wind up at Dover Air Force Base or the morticians who work on them is these regular ordinary people who are making such a difference for those who give their life for this country.
It's not the superhero part.
It's the Clark Kent part.
And to be able to be a part of that is one of the greatest gifts I've ever been given.
When's it come out?
It comes out on tax day, April 15th.
It'll be out.
And, you know, what I take away from all this, Glenn, I'll say this, is a few years ago, I was in an airport restroom, not the most glamorous place, right?
And I'm washing my hands.
And next to me is another guy that's washing his hands.
He's about five seconds ahead of me in the process.
And he walks out of the restroom, and I'm about five steps behind him.
And he looks over at the janitor and he says, thanks for keeping it clean.
And it just strikes me, that moment of kindness, that Clark Kent moment of kindness.
And I start saying now, every time I go into any restroom in a fancy restaurant or in an airport bathroom, thank you for keeping it clean.
I mean, I had never looked twice at the janitor, much less spoken to him.
But what I love about that story, Glenn, is that that guy who set it all in motion, I have no idea who he is.
He has no idea who I am or that I've been doing it.
But for 20 years now, I've been saying thank you for keeping it clean because of this one kind person.
And what I love even more is my son started saying it because, and not because I asked him, he's just heard me do it and now he does it.
And I love the fact that you and I can have this moment about Superman or you can have this story about these soldiers, you know, that we hear about.
And it's like life is like a boomerang sometimes.
You throw it out there and then boom, it comes back to you.
And so, you know, I love the fact that that's how the world works.
And that this thing that you and I worked to build and save in the Superman house that all these years later, I now get to write it.
I mean, I think you have the best life of anybody I know.
I really do.
You have just the greatest.
You have the greatest job of all time.
The name of the book is The Viper.
The Boomerang Effect of Tariffs00:15:30
It came out last week.
You can get it wherever books are sold.
Anything that Brad Meltzer writes is so good because he's such a good storyteller.
But then on top of it, he adds all of this historic fact in it.
It's just fabulous.
The name of it is The Viper.
Get it?
Read it now.
Brad, we'll talk to you again.
Thanks.
Thank you, my friend.
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I want to talk to you about something that probably nobody is thinking about right now, and you need to.
You need to think.
You need to prepare.
You need to know what all of this means about the tariffs.
We are waiting for a response from the Supreme Court.
They had mentioned that they may have released this decision this week, and then that kind of disappeared, which makes me a little nervous.
Because I want you to understand this is massive, absolutely massive.
And it is an important question constitutionally.
Can the president issue these tariffs and use them the way he has?
He says yes, because it's a national emergency.
The left made the argument that, no, this isn't a national emergency, but I would just like for you to hear this out.
But most importantly, I want you to understand what this decision does to you, to the United States, and to the world.
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All right, I want to say something here that say it plainly without cheering, without booing, you know, without wearing a red hat or a blue one.
This is not about whether you like Donald Trump or not.
We have to get above that kind of conversation.
This is about will America still have a steering wheel in the world.
If the Supreme Court of the United States rules that the president cannot impose all of the tariffs the way he has, something is going to snap.
And it is bigger than just trade.
Tariffs are not a tax line item.
Tariffs are a lever.
They are how the United States, without firing a bullet, forces negotiations, disciplines bad actors, signals seriousness in a world that only respects strength backed by action.
The reason why Donald Trump is able to change the world right now is because people are taking the president of the United States seriously, really truly seriously for the first time because he's not playing by the same rules that have been established by the same people that have been screwing us forever.
He's like, I'm not playing that game.
This is a different game.
And if you remove that lever, you don't get cheaper goods.
You get gravity.
Because here's the truth that really everybody needs to know but won't say out loud.
America's economy doesn't run on innovation or labor or capital.
It runs on leverage.
Leverage.
On the quiet understanding that when the United States says enough, it means that enough is enough.
And that word holds meaning to the rest of the world.
If the court takes that away, the world doesn't pause to admire our constitutional process in any way, shape, or form.
The world moves and it moves fast.
If the Supreme Court decides that the president does not have the power to do what he has done, you're not going to feel it the next morning when you're buying coffee, but you will feel it when your job becomes non-competitive.
And we're having enough problems with that as it is.
When your pension assumes growth that never arrives, when your kid discovers that they're competing not just with the kid down the street, but also with the state-subsidized labor halfway around the globe.
We've seen all of that happen.
That's what he's reversing with tariffs.
This ruling, if it goes that way, would not be a policy disagreement.
It is a tidal wave and a wave that tells every capital on earth America can't act decisively, even when it wants to.
It can't.
Already we're teaching the world that every four years we change directions.
If you don't think that if the Democrats win in 2028, we're going to turn this ship around as fast as they possibly can, and they will be going the 180 degrees in the other, you lose respect for the world.
The world is like, they don't know what they're doing.
We can't trust them because they're constantly changing.
Because what comes next will not be decided by the voters.
It'll be decided by governments that don't ask permission, don't consult courts.
They don't apologize for advancing their own people first.
This is not about Trump's legacy.
It's about whether your children inherit a country that can set its own terms or one that is permanently reacting to terms that is set by others.
And I don't want to react to those terms set by the rest of the world anymore.
But that's the real cost here.
So what is going to happen here will happen fast.
In the first 90 days, China will interpret this ruling as structural weakness, not legal nuance.
They won't say constitutionally anything.
They'll say the president is a lame duck and they can't do any of those things.
Within 30 days, all the trade negotiations stall or they just walk on them.
State subsidized exports surge, especially steel, EV components, batteries, solar electronics, all of those things are back in a big way.
Quiet pressure ramps up on U.S. allies to begin signing bilateral deals, excluding Washington.
Within 60 days, currency management intensifies to undercut U.S. producers.
Belt and road financing out of China is remarketed as stable because the U.S. is now full of uncertainty.
We just don't know.
Tech and supply chain decoupling efforts accelerate this time now in China's favor.
By 90 days, China positions itself as the predictable partner.
And they are because one guy makes the decisions.
I don't want to be that country, but we cannot continue to go back and forth, back and forth.
U.S. companies are going to face a choice.
Move your production abroad or lose margin.
And Beijing's going to lock in long-term advantages while Washington is sitting here debating.
Here's the thing.
The Supreme Court, what they're going to say is the Senate and the House need to set the rules on this.
I'm hoping that they will split the baby at worse and they'll say he can do this.
It is an emergency, but the Senate and the House need to pass some laws.
If they just say, nope, he doesn't have that power, then it has to go back to the House and Senate and they have to pass the laws.
That's not going to happen.
That's not going to happen.
They're never going to pass anything.
That's why this is effective because Congress can't do a damn thing.
This is not theoretical.
This is muscle memory.
The European Union is going to respond differently, but not less consequently.
I mean, they're going to, within 30 days, the public statement express respect for the court.
Private conversations are going to go to containment of the U.S. because we're unpredictable.
All of our trade talks, all of this stuff, everything that we have done, everything that Donald Trump has done, all of the stuff where he is moving these companies into the United States to help build, to make sure that we are the leader in rare earth minerals.
All that stuff disappears, gang.
It all disappears because trade is not about taxes.
For Donald Trump, trade is about policy.
It's about getting countries to act the way we want them to act.
And that's what they're supposed to be.
Everybody's made this about taxes.
And it's nice that we're getting money, but that's not what it's really about.
And by the way, we are getting money.
It's shock of all shocks.
They haven't collapsed the economy.
Everything the experts said seemed to be wrong.
You know, this is going to drive inflation through record rates.
Well, no, he's actually reversed it.
We're now down to 2% inflation, where it was 9% inflation.
How has he done that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, he keeps saying to me, Glenn, I'm going to have you a believer in tariffs one of these days.
And I'm close because I don't know how this is working.
It goes against everything I believe.
Tariffs mean.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I do know this.
You turn this off and America is in trouble immediately.
You can dislike Trump.
You can cheer the court if you want, but understand what you are cheering for because when the lever breaks, the wave does not ask who you voted for.
It hits all of us.
And if you are for a new world order, as Mark Carney has just said, the prime minister of Canada, as he wants to side with China, that's exactly what this will further.
I don't.
Try to Be a Better Human00:03:10
I think people, I think you need to urge your friends to get closer to God, get closer to family, repair the things that you can repair, correct the problems in your own life that you can correct.
Try to be a better human being.
Try to be somebody who can be trusted.
Because trust, I'll tell you, the most important rare earth minerals is not the most important commodity.
The most important commodity will be trust.
In three years, you're going to see a world that is so full of tech that you will never know what's real.
You won't know who to trust.
You won't know anything.
Because how many times now do you get online and you're like, is that real or is that not real?
I don't know what that is.
Because people are using AI and they're not saying this is AI.
That's a real problem.
You have people who are bad actors, people who think it's funny, people who are just trying to advance some sort of, I don't know, whatever.
And they're messing it up for the rest of us.
And we're buying into a lot of this.
And every time you are wrong on something, your credibility goes down a little bit.
And I'm telling you, credibility is the only thing that will matter in three years.
You say what you mean and mean what you say.
You've thought things through.
You're not on anyone's team.
You're on Team America, which means team constitution, team bill of rights.
That's what America is.
Without those two things, we're Great Britain.
I don't want to be Great Britain.
See, that's the funny thing.
If you listen to them overseas, they all say, we're free.
We have freedom of speech.
Just as much freedom of speech as they do in America.
Really?
Is that why your government's putting you in jail right now and our government can't?
That's the difference.
You want to be on Team America.
You're on Team Constitution and Team Bill of Rights.
And then just do what the Lord tells you to do.
Be a better human being every single day.
Try to be more like him.
Treat people with respect.
Listen to people and have reasonable conversations.
And when people do not want to have reasonable conversations with you, withdraw.
When people just want to spout lies all around you and everybody's doing it in a room, withdraw.
Don't be a part of it.
Don't be a part of it.
Everything is going to change.
For us to survive, we're going to have to count on one another.
And to count on one another, we have to be able to know what the truth is.
Charlie Kirk is not a time traveler.
Okay?
I don't need to say more than that.
Guard your credibility.
More in a minute.
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And by the way, the torch, everything happens at Glennbeck.com.
We have been calling it the torch because the torch really is my mission.
It's what I believe I have to do.
And so all of the things that are marked torch are my mission, the things that I feel that I have to do and share with you.
So some of the content that you'll find on the torch, it's all free right now.
Not everything is out, obviously, but there's a lot of really good stuff.
One of them is on capital controls.
And you should watch it because it really shows you if we go into this trade thing, if this happens, capital controls are going to come out of the woodwork, I believe.
And you don't know what they are.
everybody on Wall Street.
You know, I had somebody who I really respected on television who I thought was just a great guy.
I still do, but I just didn't understand this.
He was at Fox and he did finance.
And at one point, I talked to him about, you know, what was coming and he didn't argue.
He just, you know, pushed back a little bit.
And when I got up out of the chair, he said, you're the most irresponsible person I've ever met.
And I was crushed.
I said, what do you mean?
Did I get something wrong?
Why didn't you push back?
Why didn't you tell me?
And he said, no, you didn't get anything wrong.
Glenn, we have a responsibility not to put people in panic.
We have a responsibility to not say things like this.
And I said, I completely disagree with you.
It's not my information or your information.
It's the people's information.
If the banks know it and the leaders know it, you should know it so you can make decisions.
So all, I guarantee you, anybody on TV knows what capital controls are, and they're already starting to happen in some countries, but you can watch it.
Here's a clip from that special for Torch at Glennbeck.com.
What do capital controls mean?
It's the moment the exit doors lock.
When you think of capital controls, it's pretty much exactly like it sounds.
Instead of going into the free market and having the market make decisions on things like money and where it's flowing, it means that a government and or a central bank is making those decisions.
Let me tell you a story.
Say you're going to a theater, and not just any theater.
This one's very famous.
You've been coming here your whole life.
The seats are plush.
The lights are always perfect.
The shows are the best money can buy.
But you go this night and something feels different.
Something feels off.
The ushers are acting nervous.
The cast keeps glancing from backstage.
Maybe you've heard rumors, just whispers at first.
Something is wrong.
I don't know.
Maybe the building isn't sound.
The foundation is cracking.
And then suddenly, you hear it.
Click.
It's quiet, but it is unmistakable.
The sound of the exit doors locking.
They are the sound of a nation realizing the show is over and locking the doors before too many people try to leave at once.
That is what capital controls are.
So you're seeing them already when people say, like Mamdani says, you know, you have to be a certain color for you to have the same relationship with private property.
No, no.
Capital controls tell you what you can and cannot buy, what you can and cannot do.
And it's a way to control and trap your money where the government wants it to be trapped, usually here in the United States.
You're going to see this happening first in Washington state, in New York.
You're going to see it happening in California.
They're already doing it now to the billionaires.
Watch, that's going to get really bad.
And that, again, is capital controls.
You're going to also see it in Illinois.
You'll see it in these states that are completely going under.
They're going to start trying to trap money into that state.
You won't be able to move your money out of that state eventually.
And there are all kinds of things you can do.
And we go over them in the documentary, Capital Controls, available now at Glennbeck.com.
Glenn, one of your insiders named Brian asked, can you give us more ideas for lower cost options for protecting us from capital controls?
So it is at the end.
We do talk about it, land, gold, et cetera, but silver, really, what you need to do is buy the things that won't lose their value.
Buy the things that are important and are tangible and real, and you can hold them in your hand.
Things that you can take with you.
If you want to move someplace, you have that and you can take it.
There's a reason why these rich people are buying up classic cars, et cetera, et cetera, because it has value that will last.
Money doesn't.
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So I have some good news on the economic front.
Unemployment claims unexpectedly have fallen to 198,000.
I'd like to know more about that.
Mortgage rates have fallen to a three-year low.
We're now at a 6% mortgage rate, which is really good.
Bad news, Americans are filing for more bankruptcy, but there is a story behind that.
The baby boomer is not the one that is the median American homebuyer.
So some of that is not right.
And there was a list that came out today.
It's in our show prep, about the jobs that you should be training for if you're young.
And it is amazing to me because when everybody was saying learn to code, get into AI and everything else, I was saying don't do that.
The one thing, that's all going to be covered.
The one thing that AI cannot do is show personal compassion.
You can't look AI in the eyes.
And doctors are going to be really replace a lot of what they do with AI because when you need somebody to make a judgment on what's going on, really, it can process more information.
But you can't have your nurses or your physical therapists being AI.
You're going to want a person when there's pain involved.
And those are, I think, the top 10 jobs that they're now recommending.
It's all medicine, not doctors below that.
Let me bring in Carol Roth.
She is the author of You Will Own Nothing.
She also helped me put together the capital controls program.
She's one of the people in the documentary.
Carol, I just was talking about tariffs and what the Supreme Court is going to decide one way or another.
But if they decide to say the president doesn't have a right or ability to do any of these things, this is massive chaos.
Am I right or wrong?
So I think that you're absolutely right that this is massive chaos, particularly if they say that the administration has to do refunds.
Because from an administrative standpoint, both at the federal level, but then also trickling down to all of the businesses who may have passed tariffs onto their customers in some cases transparently, the undoing of that is going to be just mass, mass chaos, which is why I think we could very well be in for a hybrid ruling, one where they say, okay,
you don't have the emergency powers, but we're going to not make this retroactive.
This is going to be a go-forward.
We're putting the stake in the ground right now.
And so from that standpoint, I don't think it's as much chaos as you do, Glenn.
And I'm not usually the one that's talking you off the ledge.
I'm usually the one pushing you off the ledge.
Well, but you're talking about economic.
I'm talking about global chaos.
I'm talking about because all these tariffs, they're all levers to change the world into our direction.
So all of these agreements that he's got, now everybody's going to look like president can't do what he says he wants to do, so he loses that.
And all of these things that have pushed rare minerals our way, it's all up for grabs again.
And it's going to make China look stable.
Let me potentially talk you after ledge and throw some good possibilities out there, which again is a little reversal of rules.
From a foreign policy standpoint, I understand that trade has been a lever, but the strength of Trump and the military and sort of his unpredictability and his suite of tools has been absolutely unparalleled, from helping to free the hostages in Gaza to the surgical strike in Iran to the capturing of Maduro.
I mean, everybody is on notice.
And I don't think a ruling on tariffs is going to undo the absolute strength that we have shown on the world stage from that standpoint.
I hope you're right.
Furthermore, and obviously, you know, I am not a legal expert, but in my research, you have folks who do these things, research these things, like Cato, believe that there are other tariff options that are not emergency tariff options.
So if it is struck down, there is no doubt in my mind that the administration has already decided whether it's the Trade Expansion Act for national security reasons, whether it's the balance of payment issues.
There are multiple sections of trade acts where they can pivot.
So yes, it's a setback and one that, in my opinion, is an unforced error.
But I think that there is so much strength from this administration in other areas and other options that it won't be as bad.
Yes, it'll be chaotic.
It won't be a good thing, but I do think that it'll go that way.
I hope you're right.
I talked to the president weeks ago when this was being argued, and I said, what happens if that goes away?
And he said, oh, there are other ways we can deal with this.
I'm not that concerned.
I think they are concerned, but they were prepared for this going either way.
And I do think that the reason why the court decision hasn't come out this week, which they talked about maybe coming out this week, I think one of the reasons why they're delaying is they're trying to split the cat, if you will, and make sure they don't do complete Just devastation to everything, trying to find a way that kind of keeps the Constitution, the Constitution, gives the President powers that he might need, and more importantly,
give everybody a chance to find a way out.
Yes.
Yes.
In time to prepare.
The longer it goes on, the more it's creating signals to the administration and the more that they're able to prepare for the outlook.
I agree.
Okay.
So we got a couple of things we just got to race through because I've only got about six minutes left with you.
Let's start with Powell.
The president has gone after Powell.
He's threatening a lawsuit against Powell.
But Powell, his term expires in, what, March?
May, May.
It expires in May.
Right.
And so he's going to be replaced anyway.
Is this about lowering the interest rates in that time period?
What is this really all about?
Yeah, it's interesting because if you listen to the Trump administration and the AGs, they're saying, we have no idea what Powell's talking about.
We never said it was indictment.
We're just trying to get some information from him.
And so the fact that you have Powell coming out in an unprecedented move, I mean, the Fed does not make statements outside normal scheduled business hours and scheduled statements.
And by the way, if you watch the statement, it's like a hostage video.
He's like gulping.
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It's really uncomfortable.
You know what it reminded me of?
The only other time I've seen the Fed make a Sunday night announcement was TARP.
And it felt like the same thing.
COVID, yes.
Oh, yeah, COVID.
Yeah.
But really briefly, uncomfortable.
It's weird.
It's like an emergency thing.
Yes.
But it does come off political.
If that is actually what's happening, which is sort of unclear that that's actually what is happening.
But I think if you're going to go after the Fed for anything, the absolute cavalier nature of the fact that they have hurt affordability for Americans.
They've made housing unaffordable.
They've helped enable our tremendous debt.
There are so many things that we can go after the Fed for that the cost on a renovation that's not being funded by taxpayers directly seems strange unless, again, very, very, you know, 4D chess here.
Maybe it's a way to open up an audit.
Maybe it's a way to actually get to something else by coming in through this route.
If anybody could do it, he is the guy to, if he wanted to, to get that done.
Tell me about Warsh, the guy who looks like the president may select.
Okay, so this is huge breaking news.
Per CNBC, the president made comments today, and the frontrunner for the position was Trump's top economic advisor, a different Kevin, Kevin Hassett, that we all know the director of the National Economic Council.
Now Trump is saying, well, you know, Kevin, I really would like to keep you in this place, which made everyone go, oh, Kevin, you know, Hassett's not the top pick.
It's Kevin Worsh.
And the concern with Hassett is that he's too tied into the administration, that he would be, you know, sort of a wonky economist that's doing Trump's bidding.
Kevin Worsh is somebody who is a former Wall Street guy, former M ⁇ A banker that went into politics.
He was appointed to the board of governors of the Fed by George W. Bush.
And so he has that experience, but he also is sort of a liaison.
So during the Great Recession financial crisis, he was the one who was liaising between the Fed and the banks and the White House and creating that.
So he's seen, even though he's somebody who wants to lower interest rates and he's aligned with a lot of the president's policies, he's somebody who's considered more credible in that type of position.
I don't like whether that's good or bad, but the market likes that.
Yeah, I know the market will like that.
That's not the kind of guy I want.
I want somebody in there who's like, you know what, I'd really like to do is set fire to this whole thing.
You want Ron Paul in there.
Yeah, I would love Ron Paul in there.
I would cancel it.
I would.
I would.
So let me talk to you about quickly, I just want to run through a whole bunch of topics.
The wealth tax in California.
If this thing passes, I mean, this is how stupid these people are.
They have built Silicon Valley.
They are leading the AI revolution, all of that.
Then they attack that very revolution at the time when that revolution is going to make or break your area.
They get rid of all of your electricity.
Then they start going after those billionaires that have set all of those things up and get them to move all of their assets out of California.
What the hell is California going to have left in the end?
Who are they going to tax?
Well, I'm less concerned about California as I am about the rest of the country because this is something that is going to have reverberations throughout the country.
We know every bad economic proposal this country has is incubated in California, and then it ends up spreading.
So if this is something that is adopted, and you talked about capital controls, let's try to trap wealth here in the state.
You know, if it's January 1st and you're not out of here yet, we're going to make this retroactive.
You have to keep it in the state.
Well, that's because there are other states to go to.
If Democrats get behind this nationally, this means this could be enacted not only nationally, but we know no policies that come out for the wealthy ever stay with the wealthy.
They roll down to the middle class.
So this is a Trojan horse.
But also something that you've talked about that's so critically important is we are in a race for our lives with tech, for the future of this country in terms of the economy and growth and national security.
Silicon Valley is important to that.
And if we have a disruption in innovation, if we have a disruption in the stock market, which all of a sudden impacts all of us and all of our wealth, these are things that don't just impact the billionaires.
It rolls out to the rest of us and hurts the country overall.
So we can't just poo-poo it and say, oh, it's California.
You get what you vote for, because this has real consequences for everybody.
I will tell you that that's why a new stock market is being built here in Dallas, Texas, why Elon moved to Texas while they are building power plants and everything else that they can to invite that money here.
I think the capital of innovation and money just may end up being Texas in the end.
And by the way, you know, we were talking about California and you said this will spread.
I think on that list of absolute spreading to trapping money in states, New York, California, Washington state, Illinois.
I mean, it's just going to happen, right?
You nailed it in order.
Yep, absolutely.
Yeah.
It is going to happen.
And we've seen it here in Chicago just from bad policies.
We had our biggest billionaire, Ken Griffin, who left.
Not only did he take his tax revenue, he took his philanthropy with it.
And now the middle class is having to pay crazy increases in property tax and energy and the like because we no longer have that tax revenue and they have shrunk the pie.
And nobody is economically illiterate.
All of those economically limited.
All those charities are now like, what happened?
How are we going to raise this money?
You know, why isn't he still giving to the charities he's always believed in Illinois?
Because he's not in Illinois anymore.
You chased him out of Illinois.
Of course he's going to build up the area he's around.
It's not.
He's in the city.
He made personal investments in the city.
We have this gorgeous bike and walking path that goes right along Lake Michigan that was funded because he wanted to do that.
I know.
Now he's not doing that anymore because he doesn't live here and people don't seem to understand why he wouldn't want to invest in Illinois anymore when you pushed him out and sent him to Florida.
Yeah, the world is upside down.
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But I'm actually more positive, Carol, than I've been in a long time.
And that usually means trouble.
How are you?
Are you?
Well, you have to understand, Glenn, my Chicago Bears beat the Green Bay Packers last week in the NFL Wildcard, which is like our Super Bowl.
We haven't won the Super Bowl in 40 years.
We're playing with house money and we have a young team.
So yes, of course I'm optimistic.
I know.
I think that's one of the signs that Jesus is coming.
But just my PB.
We do have the Pope.
The Pope is from Chicago.
I know.
Things couldn't get stranger.
All right.
Thank you so much, Carol.
I appreciate it.
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