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Aug. 6, 2025 - The Glenn Beck Program
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Best of the Program | 8/6/25

Glenn Beck and Jason Buttrill dissect alleged criminal charges against President Obama linked to RussiaGate, George Soros, and Bill Clinton. They condemn the "Islamification of America," citing a Somali immigrant's assault defense and Zohran Mamdani's potential impact on NYC. The hosts criticize Texas Democrats fleeing gerrymandering while supporting gender ideology, expose Mark Elias's legal strategies against Tulsi Gabbard, and urge listeners to rate the show to counter mainstream narratives. Ultimately, the episode frames these events as evidence of a coordinated left-wing agenda threatening American sovereignty. [Automatically generated summary]

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Deep State Answers Emerge 00:14:46
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And Jason Butfrill joins us.
He is our chief researcher on the show.
And we're putting together a two-episode series tonight.
And then again, next Wednesday night involves big chalkboards that will give you the latest developments on the criminal charges that are possibly coming against President Obama and others involved in Russia Gate.
It's an important conversation that you'll hear here in this podcast.
Also, we talk about the Islamification of America and the Somali community that is defending a Somali immigrant that sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl.
How is this happening and acceptable in America?
And the latest on the Texas Democratic representatives that fled the state over gerrymandering.
They're now comparing it to the Holocaust from Illinois.
Incredible.
All on today's podcast.
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Jason Buttrill, welcome to the program.
How are you?
Thank you, sir.
I'm doing amazing.
I feel like with all these disclosures and everything coming out, that we're finally getting some answers that we've been frustrated on.
I know the audience has been frustrated.
I share those with you, but now things are becoming clear.
And it's, I don't know, I'm hopeful.
I'm definitely white-pilled right now.
I'm feeling a lot of hope.
It's great.
I'm glad to hear that because right now, I mean, I mentioned this yesterday.
I am, my doctor said to me, oh, 15, 20 years ago, I'm not going to talk to you about surgery until your back is so on fire that you're begging me.
And I've been about three months into the absolute I'm begging for surgery now.
That I am so, it's weird what pain can do to you.
It will just, I'm so blackpilled on everything right now.
So blackpilled.
You know, I, and, and, and, and part of it is just because I'm becoming unreasonable.
I'm having, as I said to Jason and Sarah, feel free to jump in at any time today because I can barely concentrate on anything and hold thoughts together.
Um, but uh, I, you know, between that and the fact that we have not seen anything, anything, any sign of justice, I have we've seen a lot of stuff.
We've seen 41 Planned Parenthood centers close.
That's that's a very big deal.
41 Planned Parenthoods have closed.
We have seen the Corporation for Public Broadcasting gone, just gone out of business.
And I don't celebrate that, but I do celebrate our tax dollars not going to NPR and PBS anymore.
You can sell commercials.
You have big boy pants.
Oscar the Grouch can help you out.
He's probably got very deep pockets if he had legs.
So, I mean, you can handle that.
We're seeing things that we've never seen before.
And things are going really well in some areas.
But the biggest area I think that is the one that bothers most people is there's no justice.
It doesn't seem to be justice.
For those people who are in the elite circles, they don't pay a price.
And we're laying out a show tonight that Jason and I have been working on now for, well, I mean, it seems like we've been working on this one for 15 years.
The next two shows are going to lay some stuff out next week.
We have big chalkboards.
And if we're going to lay it out almost like we did the impeachment trial, because we've had all of these pieces, but now we have proof of it.
And that has not given me any satisfaction.
But is it Pam Bondi now that is giving you hope?
Or is it just the fact that this is becoming so provable now?
Yeah, I think it's that it's becoming provable.
And the fact that we do have an administration that is referring this towards some kind of criminal proceeding is very, very uplifting.
But I mean, Glenn, you and I have walked through chalkboards and we're like, okay, this is what happened.
Like this dot connects to that dot.
There's these people.
We have these documents.
But there was always one little thing where we were like, but we need this that just, that's it.
Like we know this is true.
It's common sense.
Yeah, but if we had this, it is over.
And now we're starting to see those like questions that I didn't, I completely forgot about.
Like, who would think that we would see possibly an answer on the Bill Clinton, Loretta Lynch meeting on the tarmac in Arizona?
Remember that?
I mean, how would that come through now where we're like, oh, that's what's happening?
Now we know where that originated from.
Like we're starting to see answers.
Who would have thought, Glenn, that we would see now through RussiaGate answers to questions that we had about Ukraine and the George Soros Open Society Foundation and their collusion with the Obama administration.
You and I dug through emails.
What year was that?
I can't even remember where we were showing collusion between the two of them to basically steal a country.
Now we're getting answers to that off of a RussiGate disclosure.
Yeah, 17, 2017.
And you know what's so frustrating is we knew this was true.
And I guess we should rephrase this.
It's satisfying.
We knew this to be true, but like you said, we never had the pieces where we could say, case closed.
You still had to take a leap of faith and say, okay, well, that makes total sense, but you've got it 95%.
You know what I mean?
You've got it maybe worst case scenario, you have 80% of it.
And so, yes, but is it beyond a reasonable doubt?
For me, it always has been.
You know, once we get up around 90%, I'm sorry, but reasonable doubt, you can connect the dots and you look at the pattern over a long period of time and you see who these people are.
And you can say, without a doubt, without reasonable doubt, or beyond reasonable doubt.
But, you know, that's not good enough to be able to say other than what we said is this is our theory on what happened.
Now it is becoming provable fact.
And that is, it is quite satisfying.
And to see that they are now getting all of the records.
They are convening a grand jury.
It looks like this might happen.
Yeah, I think it is going to happen.
And I'm just kind of rolling through some of the like maybe potential charges that I could see.
I could easily see multiple people within the FBI getting charged with obstruction of justice.
I could easily see that.
Another question that we had just based off of that point.
You know, remember, I mean, there's all these flashpoints within the past decade plus of history where we were looking at the TV screen as something was going on, like a James Comey going on TV, public announcement saying he's not going, he's dropping the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server.
We were like, what?
Like, how are you giving this response of intent somehow, like fitting that in to say why?
And now we're looking at like this Durham annex and we're seeing the reason why they're dropping the case is pretty much they were scared to death.
The deep state, quote, was exasperated, not knowing what to do because of all these leaks.
They did not know what to do.
So the FBI apparently was like, we've got to shut this down now.
Why?
Well, also, and as we'll show you tonight, the granddaddy at the top, the president at the time, was saying, I need to use all levers to shut this down immediately.
Too many scandals, end of my term.
We have to shut this down.
It's bringing everything into context.
And it's kind of amazing to me that we're not seeing more in the mainstream media draw some of these connections and pointing some of these things out because they're huge.
Of course not.
We will not see this in the mainstream media.
I mean, this is going to happen, you know, without it.
I mean, did you see the guy?
This is from Just the News.
So John Solomon.
The guy who was, you know, the signer and really one of the big pushers, Larry Pfeiffer, of the Hunter Biden laptop letter.
Yeah.
You know, saying that the, you know, the Russians, he is still saying today, he has come out and he has doubled down.
That I'm telling you, that was a Russian op.
What?
Are you nuts?
Do you really think you're going to get away with it?
And here's the other thing.
They are starting to make sure that the statute of limitations is not a thing of the past.
Do you see that Brennan and Comey had come out and they said, all of this stuff is false, yada, yada.
And they wrote an op-ed in the New York Times.
That has now opened them up again because it's dragged it into a new time period.
Even though a grand conspiracy can forget about all statute of limitations if it's a grand conspiracy, but they just did it.
They just did it again.
They've opened themselves up to prosecution because they just perjured themselves again.
Yeah, keep on doing that, boys.
Yeah, keep on doing it.
And that's been their strategy.
If they're confronted with overwhelming evidence and guilt, they just double down and say, nah, that didn't happen.
That's always been the left strategy on these things.
My hope is the time is now different and that is over and that is no longer going to work.
That's my hope.
So listen to this.
According to Tulsi Gabbard, the nation's top intelligence officials, my refusal, this is Mark Elias.
My refusal to post on Twitter is being reviewed by the Department of Justice as evidence of wrongdoing.
No.
Explain who Mark Elias is, Jason.
Remind people.
This guy is everywhere.
Everywhere throughout these scandals.
He's pretty much the conductor of the left's law fair on anything they want to do to shut down whatever conservatives or the Republican Party wants to do.
He's pretty much the conductor.
Yeah, he's an architect.
He's also involved in Act Blue.
Is he not?
That I do not know about.
I'll check that.
Check that.
Okay.
Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.
But he has been everywhere on anything legal, and his fingerprints are all over this case from Tulsi Gabbard.
He said, he writes, if that sounds preposterous, it is.
If you don't believe it's true, neither do I.
The question is: why did Tulsi Gabbard say it?
What does it mean for the Trump administration's weaponization of government?
He's now saying that the government is being weaponized by Donald Trump.
I became aware of the latest conspiracy theory in an unusual way as a question on a pro-democracy podcast.
I love that.
Within minutes of sitting down with Tim Miller from the Bulwark podcast last Thursday, he asked me about the right wing's latest attack on me.
I don't know if you've seen this, but Glenn Beck says that Mark Elias has stopped posting on X. John Kerry privatized his account, and Peter Strzok deleted his account.
Is the deep state panicking?
Miller asked jokingly, Are the deep state and you are you panicking?
I responded with, Do I look panicked?
Each time I'm targeted, the volume of hate I receive online and in correspondence spikes.
Oh, oh, is that happening to you, Mark?
Oh, welcome to my life.
Oh, I don't know, circa 2002.
Um, some of it's deranged, much of it is anti-Semitic.
What?
What?
Apparently, he's Jewish.
I didn't know.
Apparently, he's Jewish, and uh, and he's on the left.
So, this is the, I mean, now if you're targeted by anti-Semitism, it's coming mainly from the left, my friend.
Uh, and thank you for growing it on the right.
You've done such a great job.
Anyway, some of it's deranged, much of it is anti-Semitic, and it's deeply conspiratorial.
Like Beck, many of the purveyors of these lies accuse me of being part of the deep state.
Now, listen to this: I've never worked in government, and I have no ties to the U.S. national security agencies.
That doesn't mean that you're not a member of the deep state, dude.
I mean, NGOs, non-governmental organizations.
I mean, they're part of the deep state.
They're getting funding from the state to do the is it really?
You know who else has not been part of a state organization?
George Soros.
He's definitely part of the deep state.
You're one of the, I'm not sure if he's an architect or he's just one of the footmen, but he is absolutely, in my opinion, part of the deep state.
Mark Elias Sexual Assault Allegations 00:09:28
And, and, you know, we see this because we've done chalkboards and his name continues to appear over and over and over again.
You know, it's like if you are, if you're a detective and there's, you know, a serial killer on the loose and it's the same MO.
At some point, you begin to look at the crowd that's around that body every single time.
And if there's a couple of people that keep showing up and they're at the scene of every crime, you're like, wait a minute, that's interesting because how are you guys always here?
Why are you always at the scene of the crime?
Why?
Can you explain that?
He's always there.
Yeah, you talk about like connecting.
We connect dots, and especially when we do these chalkboards.
And we're not accusing you anything, obviously, Mark Elias.
But like when the dots go through and we talk about George Soros, we notice that you also worked at Perkins Coy.
$5 million went from George Soros to Perkins Coy.
We also know that you were there in April 2016.
Mark Elias, you helped to hire Fusion GPS, the people that produce the steel.ca.
I don't have to draw too many more connections off of that.
They're doing it themselves.
I mean, you may not, it may not be the legal standard.
You know what I mean?
There may be reasonable doubt for a jury, but this ain't a jury, man.
This is not a jury.
We're just looking at the people standing around going, I don't know.
I don't know.
There seems to be an awful lot of activity here with Mark Elias.
I think maybe we could put him in the category, at least non-legally, in a category of, I don't trust that dude.
Maybe that's just me.
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There's a story that came out, I think it was on Monday, and I haven't had a chance to get to it because I wanted to spend some serious time on it.
Because there is a story of a Somali immigrant living in the United States who was sentenced to 12 years imprisonment for raping a 12-year-old girl in Minneapolis last year.
Okay, 12-year-old girl, you get 12 years for it.
Doesn't seem right, but okay.
But that's not where this story ends.
This guy was born in Somalia during the country civil war, grew up in Kenya in a refugee camp.
He emigrated to the United States, initially spent time in Minnesota before moving to North Dakota for several years, and then he moved back to Minnesota, where he's been ever since.
We have no idea what his citizenship looks like, but in July of 2024, he was charged with raping a 12-year-old girl.
And according to the criminal complaint, the victim said she was playing in the backyard of her family's home.
And from an alley behind the house, a man looked over the fence and started talking to her.
He then asked, hey, is your mom home?
And she foolishly said, no, she's not.
The man left the scene for a few minutes, then returned, putting his hand over her mouth and forcing her into the car, striking her over the head.
The victim said the man drove a short distance away from the home, pulled over, sexually assaulted her.
Eventually, she got away from him and ran home.
Now, according to the criminal charges, the victim had contact information for Mohammed Muse, and that was in her phone.
Why?
When she was asked about who this is, the victim said, that's the man who assaulted her.
Using that cell phone contact, a sting operation was set up by the victim's family several weeks after the assault.
He arrived at the victim's home to, I guess, you know, take her out or whatever he was going to do with her and was taken into police custody.
So he was found guilty of first-degree criminal sexual conduct.
He was convicted.
That's when things got really weird because he not only got family, you know, family to write letters of recommendation to say, hey, he's not really like this.
He's not usually raping children, et cetera, et cetera.
But when asked about his character, his Islamic center wrote about his character.
He is a deeply good man whose presence enriches the lives of those who are around him.
We respectfully ask that you consider his character, his contributions, and his ongoing potential when making your decision.
He genuinely strives to make meaningful contributions to our society.
We, the undersigned members of the Somali community, write this letter to express our strong and heartfelt support of a member of our community.
The Islamic Center wrote that he faced the challenge of starting over in a new culture.
Oh, did he?
Did he have to do that?
And he just couldn't take the stress of that anymore.
And so he started raping 12-year-olds.
The Islamic Center said the community has witnessed his love for his family and his kids.
He's also been an active volunteer in our mosque, where regularly he visited during Friday prayers, Ramadan, and community events.
You'll often find him helping elders.
Well, of course he's helping elders.
He doesn't need to rape them.
Helping elders find rides home or staying after to help clean up.
His service has never been about recognition, just quiet commitment to supporting the spaces that hold our community together.
So last week, the judge sentenced him to 12 years in prison.
That is the least amount of prison time that is recommended.
The judge could not give him less prison time.
He's also required to register as a sexual offender.
But here's the good news.
He could be released as early as 2033 and remain on probation for the rest of his sentence.
By the way, he also continues to deny that he committed any sexual assault.
So he's not penitent for it.
Why did the judge do this?
Can you help me out on that?
What kind of, can you imagine?
Can you imagine your church?
If your church, I know mine wouldn't do this.
My church found out that I was being tried for sexual assault of a 12-year-old.
I think I'd be, well, I know I would be.
I'd be excommunicated immediately.
And if they said anything about my character, it would be required that I be penitent about it, that I would have asked for forgiveness.
And then I know my church pretty well.
They would have said he's got you, he has to pay his Temporal penalty.
But we would ask that you would look into this and this and this.
But that would all be contingent on me being penitent in the first place.
And I don't think that they would make a strong case for my character because I just raped a 12-year-old.
London's Transformation and Anxiety 00:04:45
So what is this?
This is the Islamification of our society.
And I warn you, it is happening everywhere.
There's a story out in the New York Post today.
Let me just give you some highlights of it.
Many of my friends and former neighbors in New York, where I lived for 27 years, are anxious about London's future and the future of New York.
If it elects a mayor, a self-proclaimed Muslim socialist, another great world capital already offers a glimpse of what might lie ahead, and that's London with their far-left Muslim socialist mayor, Khan.
I recently returned to my native London for the first time in more than two decades.
What I found wasn't inclusive, wasn't a cosmopolitan capital that I had known and loved, but a city so altered in tone and appearance that I scarcely recognized it.
Over the course of a fortnight in June.
Okay, can we stop using fortnite?
I don't even know what a fortnight is.
Jason, do you know what a fortnight is?
Fourscore seven years ago?
Is that fortnight?
I don't know.
Is that three days?
Can you just say three days, seven days, whatever it is?
Can you stop using the word fortnight, please?
I mean, I'm sorry Charles Dickens isn't around to explain it to me.
Over the course of a fortnight in June, the neighborhood after neighborhood left me feeling not just like a visitor, but a stranger in my own birthplace.
At times, I felt as though I was in Dubai rather than London.
Mayor Khan, a Muslim socialist of Pakistani heritage, has aggressively pursued a pro-immigration agenda during his last eight years.
Khan's London offers housing and social services that are a magnet for the record number of illegal immigrants flooding into Britain.
Khan was re-elected for a third term in May 2024.
This isn't about race or immigration, nor is it nostalgia for some imagined golden era.
I'm the daughter of first-generation Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe that grew up in a multicultural London during the 1950s and 60s.
My childhood circle included Afro-Caribbean and Persian friends.
Our high street bustled with South Asian-owned shops and takeaways run by newly arrived strivers from former British colonies.
My father's kosher tailor shop stood proudly on Brick Lane even as the East End transformed from a Jewish enclave into a Bangladeshi stronghold.
These shifts felt organic, imperfect, yes, but cohesive.
There was a sense of shared direction.
The anti-Semitic bullying I experienced at school came usually from native-born white Britons, not immigrants.
But this time, the transformation of London is fundamentally different.
What struck me wasn't just the arrival of new communities, but the visible dominance in many of the neighborhoods of conservative Middle Eastern and Muslim cultural norms.
It wasn't just a demographic change, but a palpable shift in the atmosphere of public life.
In shops, pharmacies, cafes, on the tube, I repeatedly encountered women in full hijabs and men in their, is it thwob?
Thobs?
What is a thob or thwob?
Oh, God.
Anyway, what was missing was the gradual integration I remembered from my youth.
I saw no signs these communities were blending into the broader civic culture or even being encouraged to.
What I saw wasn't diversity, but cultural segregation, not integration, but a parallel society.
We have suggested, some have suggested my timing because this person arrived during one of the high holy days of Islam, might have skewed my impression, perhaps.
But while that might explain the Rolls-Royce's and Lamborghinis with UAE plates outside of Mayfair hotels, it doesn't explain the sense of dislocation I felt in ordinary bureaus.
Yada, yada, yada.
It goes on and on and on to say that this is really that London is coming apart at the seams, and I think that's true.
Zorhan Mamdani of New York will not be transformed overnight.
But if Momdani moves to double down on sanctuary policies for the undocumented immigrants while driving out the tax base needed to fund these socialist ambitions, the city I love could soon follow London's path.
London's diversity once made me proud.
I still believe in its potential, but I say this with sorrow, not anger.
London no longer feels like home.
It has been taken over.
Standing Up to Racial Gerrymandering 00:08:59
Is New York next?
I would say that if New York puts Momdani in, and if the socialist Muslim mayor from Minneapolis is also voted in, this is the future.
What you're seeing happening in capitals all over Europe and London, what's happening there is going to happen in those two places.
And this should be extraordinarily concerning to all Americans.
I don't care how you dress.
I don't care where you're from.
Do you want to be American?
Which brings us back to the story from yesterday.
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I want to play a couple of sound bites that came out yesterday.
First of all, let me start here with cut seven.
This is a state representative from Texas, Ron Reynolds.
He went on CNN and said he wasn't worried about anything that the state of Texas was claiming to do to him because they were fleeing the state because they're on the right side of history.
Here's cut seven.
I'm not worried about Governor Abbott's threats of going to jail or a $500 a day fine because we're standing on the right side of history, making our own good trouble to fight to preserve and protect our democracy.
We're on the right side of history.
We're not beholden to the MAGA extremists that are trying to disenfranchise black and brown communities.
We're doing everything we can to protect Texans.
And so we're not going to cower to Governor Abbott's bailed attempts of putting us in jail.
This is worth our democracy.
This is not just about Texas.
As Dr. King said, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
This is about protecting our democracy because if they can do it in Texas, they can do it anywhere else.
So we're going to stand strong.
We're not going to back down.
And we're going to keep pressing forward to protect every single Texan so that they won't be disenfranchised.
We're not going back to the days of Jim Crow.
We're going to stand up to racial gerrymandering.
Okay, this is crazy.
There's so much there.
I mean, first of all, be really careful when you say you're on the right side of history.
I mean, I don't know about you, but I question all the time, and I think this is really healthy.
Am I on the right side of history?
I don't know.
I don't know what the answer is.
History will tell me the answer.
Am I on the right side?
Am I fighting for the things that are right, correct, eternally true, and righteous?
I don't know.
I mean, there are so many things that I go back and forth on that I just don't know.
And I think that's really important to question yourself.
So anybody who, when they are firm on, you're on the right side of history, we know we don't question we're on the right side of history.
Really?
Because you were the ones with ESG forcing people to follow these rules like, you know, there's no difference between a man and a woman.
You know, men in women's sports, men can have a baby.
That really, that's not working out well.
You know, that you're on the side that Dr. Martin Luther King was wrong, that the color of the skin does matter.
That was your position.
And you said you were on the right side of history.
I don't think you're on the right side of history on that one.
You know, it seems to be falling apart on you because now you're quoting Dr. Martin Luther King.
I thought we didn't agree with Dr. Martin Luther King.
I mean, that was your position two years ago.
So when you listen to anybody who says they're on the right side of history, be very, very careful.
You know, the one thing that I am absolutely certain of, 100% certain of, is I'm not certain of anything.
The more I learn, the less certain I become on certain things.
Right side of history, I don't know.
I'm going to do my best and let God sort it out at the end.
I don't know.
And then they say, if they can do this in Texas, if the Republicans can do this in Texas, they can do it anywhere.
They have been doing it everywhere since 1812.
If you knew the history of gerrymandering, it comes from Elder or Jerry Eldridge, right?
Jerry Eldridge, I think.
Or Eldridge Jerry.
That's it.
Eldridge Jerry.
He was a founding father.
1812.
He is the governor, I think, of Massachusetts.
They start to draw these squiggly lines for the congressional map.
It's later in the 1840s called gerrymandering.
But that's how it started.
They've been doing it forever.
And the worst place, well, I'll get into that here in a second.
So let me play the second clip here.
And that is on the Don Lemon show, who knew he still had a show, another Texas state rep, Yolanda Jones, said this, cut six.
And then integration happened and everybody thought they accept us.
They don't accept us.
They are showing us who they are.
We should believe them.
And we better have the courage to stand up.
Otherwise, we will fall for anything.
And in this country, we will be defeated, deported.
I mean, we will lose all of our rights.
And if you think it can't happen, it can.
And I will liken this to the Holocaust.
People are like, well, how did the Holocaust happen?
How is somebody in a position to kill all their people?
Well, good people remain silent.
Or good people didn't realize that what happens to them can very soon happen to me or somebody I love.
And so you, and so even if you made it, man, you have an obligation to help people who can't because God forbid they end up targeting you and your family.
Okay, I agree with everything she said, except what she's applying it to.
How is this?
I mean, I think it's a little insulting to those who had relatives stuffed into ovens to say that gerrymandering is like the Holocaust, but maybe that's just me.
Look, you know what this is all about?
This is all about when a group of people in the government no longer believe in its own people.
When 57 elected Democrats from Texas, they didn't just walk out on their duties.
They walked out on the people.
They fled the state to avoid voting on redistricting maps, they say, are unfair.
They say they're standing up for democracy.
But where did they run?
This tells you a lot in the story.
Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, the states whose maps are textbook examples of political gerrymandering.
They ran to Massachusetts where it was Eldridge Jerry that gerrymandering is named after.
He was the governor of Massachusetts.
They fled to the belly of the beast while crying, wolf, back home.
So the first thing you need to know is this is not about justice.
This is about power.
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