Donald Trump Jr. and Alex Stein confront media censorship after PNC Bank shuts down his MXM News app, framing it as an elite power grab that demands fair access laws. They dissect Senator Josh Hawley's grilling of Dr. Shogun over mask mandates and assault weapons, linking these events to a manufactured state of exception where ruling classes consolidate authority without accountability. Stein further connects the Jeffrey Epstein scandal to Prince Andrew and Jimmy Saville, arguing it mirrors Pizzagate in implicating powerful figures despite weak evidence, while noting Virginia Giuffre's distancing from accusations against Alan Dershowitz. Ultimately, the episode suggests modern censorship and political scandals reveal a systemic effort to bypass democratic checks and balances. [Automatically generated summary]
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We've got a lot to do today.
I'm going to show you some things from this week, from a couple of hearings that I just, I mean, I cheered.
We are actually starting to find a spine in this country.
And that is so great.
So great.
However, we have to do more than cheer and yell at people.
And when I say yell at people, I'm going to play some things where it was insane.
Well, you know, let me start here.
Let me just start with this.
Because you'll understand how good it feels.
Senator Hawley Demands Twitter Posts00:07:19
Let's go to cut eight with Senator Hawley talking to the person that is going to be our National Archivist.
Now, remember, the National Archives should just be somebody collecting all of the stuff and preserving it.
Okay.
I don't want a political ideologue.
I don't even, I don't, shh.
I want somebody that nobody even cares to meet.
Okay.
It's like, you're going to have to meet the archivist just to, you know, get that paper.
And oh, they're so boring.
But just tolerate it because the stuff in the vault is really cool.
Okay.
That's who I want.
But that's not who we're getting.
Remember, the National Archives are now saying, this document here is very triggering.
Yes, if you're King George III, it shouldn't be triggering to you now.
But I don't know, the National Archives, it's kind of dicey.
So who do we have?
We have somebody who is a lefty.
And on the second hearing in the Senate, She was kind of caught in a little trap because on her first one, they had some tweets from her that were like, you know who I just hate?
All Republicans.
I mean, just crazy stuff that she tweeted out.
And so she made her Twitter feed private the day before she went to the hearing.
And they only had a couple of her tweets and they were going to use them.
But they only had a couple of them that they had printed off because she left it all open.
Then the night before, she closes it down so they don't have everything.
So Holly asks her, can you tell me what's on your tweets?
I mean, you closed it down.
We have two of them here.
What's on your tweets?
And she was under oath.
Well, she was back.
And I would just like to say, Senator Holly, I mean, whatever you need, whatever you need.
I mean, if you need my wife to make you some lasagna, bring it over.
I'll personally put it on the fork and feed it to you if that's what makes you happy.
This exchange made me very happy.
Dr. Shogun, when you were here last year, a number of senators asked you, including me, a series of questions about article you'd written, public statements you had made on social media that were apt to say pretty grossly partisan and I thought offensive.
And you and I went back and forth about it.
After that, a number of us asked you questions for the record relating to these statements.
I want to follow up on one of them.
I, in particular, asked you to give us a full accounting of the public posts that you had made on Twitter.
You locked your Twitter account before you came before this committee.
It had been previously been public.
I asked you to provide the public posts that had previously been available on Twitter because the ones that we have were pretty disturbing.
You responded as follows.
And I quote, my personal Twitter account is comprised of posts about my mystery novels, events at the White House Historical Association, Pittsburgh sports teams, travels, and my dog.
Well, let's talk a little bit about your Twitter posts then that I was asking you about.
On February 18th, 2022, you posted on Twitter bemoaning the dropping of mask requirements for children, including those under the age of five.
Do you remember that post?
No, Senator, those tweets were in my personal capacity.
No, I asked you, would you give all public posts that you had made on Twitter?
You said no, effectively, and you said that your Twitter posts consisted of mystery novels, events at the White House Historical Association, Pittsburgh Sports Teams, Travels, and My Dog.
And you just told me now, under oath, that you stood by that.
So now let's talk about your Twitter posts.
On February 18th, 2022, you posted bemoaning the fact that mask requirements for children under the age of five, one of whom I happen to have, by the way, have been dropped.
Is that a post about your dog or sports teams?
My social media is in my personal capacity.
Answer my question, please, because you've testified under oath that you only posted about your dog and sports teams and novels.
And you also said you wouldn't give this committee any of your public posts.
So, is your post on February 18th, 2022, bemoaning the lifting of mask requirements for children under the age of five, who I might just ask all of the data has said is extremely harmful to children, these mask requirements.
We'll leave that aside for now.
Is that a post about your dog or sports teams?
Yes or no?
My social media is in my personal capacity, Senator.
Yes or no, Ms. Shogun.
You are under oath before this committee, and I have to say you have placed this issue squarely in record by repeatedly refusing to answer.
Yes or no?
I love you.
My social media is in my personal capacity, Senator.
So you're not answering my question.
Let's talk about another post.
26th of May, 2022, you talk about an assault weapons ban, retweet a post, ban assault weapons now.
Say you agree with this idea that you have to be a certain age to buy so-called assault weapons in America.
Is that a post about sports teams or your dog or mystery novels?
My social media is in my personal capacity, Senator.
I have to say, I have been here for four years in the Senate.
I have never seen a witness stonewall like this before.
Never.
And I've seen a lot.
This is extraordinary.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
And you want to be the archivist of the United States.
You lied to us under oath.
You lied to us in your QFRs.
You just lied to me a second ago under oath.
And now you're sitting here stonewalling, not answering questions about public posts that you've made.
Dr. Shogun, I'm going to ask you again, will you give to this committee your public posts on Twitter?
Will you make them available at this point?
My social media is in my personal capacity.
Mr. Chairman, I have to tell you, this is the most extraordinary thing I have seen in my brief time in the Senate.
I have never seen a witness blatantly lie under oath like Dr. Shogun has just done to this committee, stonewalled this committee, and just repeatedly refused to answer my questions about her own posts that are in public.
For these reasons, I will oppose your nomination, and I strongly, strongly urge this committee to take action on this and force this witness to own up to the fact that she is misleading us right now before our eyes, Mr. Chairman.
I mean, don't you love him?
Now, here's the thing I want to point out.
That was a shortened version.
The long version is like eight minutes, and it is so satisfying.
It is so satisfying.
He's the first person that I have heard.
I shouldn't say that.
This has been a good week for this kind of stuff.
That are actually holding people's feet to the fire.
The COVID Leak Ratchet00:15:18
Now, it makes no difference if it's all just words.
And let me tell you why.
There is a great McIntyre opinion piece on the blaze today.
Media acceptance of the lav leak theory is the turning of the COVID ratchet.
This is the most important opinion piece that I have read on why the COVID leak is coming out and what does it all mean.
He writes, If you thought this monumental collapse of credibility, this sudden implosion of certainty of the science would give the media moments hesitation, you were sadly mistaken.
The progressive chattering class spent their days forcing the American public to pretend that men could become women at cultural gunpoint.
Science was never the lodestone of truth.
They are not undergoing some sort of dramatic crisis here.
While some would expect a little more coordination between the regime and its media arm to create a smoother narrative transition, this trailing dialectic serves its own purpose.
Our ruling elite secure power through constant invocation of the state of exception.
In theory, we live in a democracy where the power of the government is constrained through the structure of the Constitution and the will of the people.
In practice, however, both limiting factors can be removed in the case of an emergency.
A cunning leader knows that power, once granted, is rarely returned, and it is very difficult for the public to hold anyone accountable after the fact.
When an emergency presents the opportunity to achieve power under the state of exception, it is always best to manufacture the narrative to secure that power as quickly as possible and then make the adjustments later after the power is firmly in hand.
The pandemic allowed for the creation of an indefinite state of exception during which the regime could lock down its political opponents, unleash its own supporters to punish those who oppose them.
Churches, gyms were shuttered, abortion clinics, Walmarts were deemed essential.
Leftist corporate allies like Amazon acquired near monopoly on commerce while their local retail competition was driven into bankruptcy.
Trump supporters were forced to attend the funerals of their loved ones on Zoom while Joe Biden voters drank champagne in the streets to celebrate his election.
Politics, after all, is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies.
He goes on to Trump and the view, et cetera, et cetera.
But what we are now observing is the process by which our ruling elite consolidate the power they gained while reconciling their narrative to something that more closely resembles reality.
Bit by bit, the powers have had to admit the truth behind most of the conspiracy theories that they so violently attacked.
This slow drip of truth is not some admission of failure or culpability.
It is instead designed to turn the political ratchet.
Conservatives and COVID skeptics get to feel vindicated.
We have a moment of, ah, I told you so.
Yet, nothing changes.
The power isn't taken back.
No one serves a punishment for the crime.
We must understand that what Holly just did there is so satisfying.
What Ted Cruz and Holly did this week to Merritt Garland is just, I mean, it was almost, I mean, you could rate that as a porn.
We should go through that if it was again.
It was so good.
It was so good.
How can I mean, we'll play this.
We'll play a cut if you haven't heard it yet.
But it was so good, but it means nothing without teeth.
They try, who was it?
I want to say it was Biggs.
Was it the Biggs amendment that was trying to go after my Orcus?
And all of the Republicans have all said, this is out of control.
This is crazy.
Well, there are two bills to impeach him in a Republican House.
And they are a long way from getting anybody to sign on.
There's like 41 sponsors.
That's it.
Wait, excuse me.
Someone must pay the price for what is happening in our society or nothing changes.
You can feel vindicated.
You can feel good.
You can yell at people, but it doesn't change anything.
That woman should not be as the archivist for multiple reasons, but she should pay some price for lying under oath.
They're all doing it.
If they don't punish those people, why would you care?
Why would you care?
What meaning does your testimony even have?
listening to Donald Trump Jr.'s MXM.
It's a news app like Apple News.
has the bank, PNC, has just ended their business relationship without cause.
Donald Trump Jr. is with us now to talk about it.
Hello, Don.
How are you?
I'm doing well yourself?
Well, I'd be better if this crap wasn't happening.
Yeah, it doesn't stop, Glenn.
It's absolutely ludicrous.
I mean, think about this.
I created an app because for years they've been telling us, build your own.
Yep.
So then you do, and then Amazon Web Services throws you off, or Apple won't let you be on their app store, or Google won't put you on, but we're on Google and we're in Apple and MXM.
And all it is is a news aggregator app, right?
So I looked on it this morning and there was an article from the New York Times on there.
There was something from Breitfart.
There was stuff from the Blaze.
We take everything.
I went through the Hunter Biden nonsense.
I saw what they did to me for years and I see how he is an angel.
And I understand I'm not the great citizen that Hunter Biden is, but I wanted to make sure that people actually had the opportunity to see all of the news, not just what big tech deems to be important enough to show on Apple News or on Google's homepage or the craziness that happens in search.
And so I built my own with a friend.
And again, we show all sides.
Again, we have less this, we had a mediaite on there, not exactly conservative friendly, but we let everyone read everything and choose themselves.
So we get a, I send my buddy to, he's going to the bank, my partner in the MXM, and they go, you have zero account balance.
I mean, it's a small business, but we have, you know, three quarter of a million dollar operating budget in there, and there's zero there.
We thought we were hacked.
Go to the bank, what's going on?
Oh, oh, yeah, there's a cashier's check being mailed to you.
You'll get it in a day or two.
They just closed out our account, sent us three quarters of a million dollars on our cashier's check money back.
They didn't even call, Glenn.
And if they can do that to me, who won't they do it to?
I mean, that's the insanity of the world that we live.
It wasn't like we're creating news that they don't like.
We're literally just taking what's out there and making sure that everyone has an equal chance to see everything and formulate their own opinion.
And PNC Bank, a major bank, just does that.
So if they'll do that to me, who won't they do it to?
Meaning, I have some pretty powerful friends.
I know the Speaker of the House was tweet, you know, retweeted my tweet last night saying this is outrageous.
You know, if they'll do it to me, knowing my soapbox, knowing my ability to get it out there, who won't they do it to?
It's lunacy, and that's why it's so important we push back in sort of this patriot economy that's emerging.
I mean, people are like, what are you talking about at CPAC?
It's like, well, I was going to talk politics, but the reality is if we're not playing in this game, it doesn't matter.
And it comes coincidentally the week that my buddy Michael Cipher is taking his company, Public SQ, public, a listing of all the conservative businesses all over the country, where you can find businesses that believe in your values, businesses that won't cancel you, businesses that actually sign off on those things.
And honestly, you're going to be spending your money anyway, Glenn.
You might as well be spending it with people who share your values, put their kids through hockey practice or whatever it is.
But I will tell you the insanity and the people that hate you.
And you know this because you just experienced those people will also come under attack if you don't stop this with the banks.
I don't know if you know this, but I have been pushing for fair access laws.
And we've been traveling to state to state to try to get the Republicans to understand that you're not telling people how to do business.
You're telling people they can't collude and use other things other than finances.
Look, if you were a credit problem or whatever, which clearly are not, if you were a credit problem, well, then maybe.
But they would tell you that.
These fair access laws mean that if a bank or an institution cancels you, they must say what it was that caused them to cancel.
And if it's anything other than credit, then you can sue them.
Yeah, well, that's the point.
I mean, we didn't even get a call.
There wasn't a reason.
They just said, we don't want to do business with you.
And again, it's not like I'm out there creating quote-unquote fake news.
Now, I think we've all seen a lot of fake news that turned out to be 100% correct, like the Wuhan Lab League theory that, you know, finally, you know, the Department of Energy and the FBI admit, you know, the most obvious cause from moment one was actually the cause.
I'm shocked, Glenn.
I'm shocked to hear this, but, you know, they would cancel you for saying that for the last few years.
And that's the sort of battle that we're in, probably more important than almost everything in politics, other than perhaps we have to start ballot harvesting.
Otherwise, none of it matters because we'll never win another election again.
We have to start legal ballot harvesting.
We must do that.
And shame on the GOP for not going there.
So PNC, by the way, if you have a PNC account, you should take your money out of it today.
Find a local bank that's not doing these things.
By the way, what is the 1792.com?
What was that website we talked about recently that shows all the banks and their risks on doing these kinds of things?
But you should take your money out.
But just don't take your money out today.
Make sure you tell PNC why.
Go ahead.
Yeah, and I've mentioned Public Square.
by total coincidence my buddy's taking his company public that is a listing of all the conservative businesses around the country he's from california and he got sick of going to a coffee shop spending his hard-earned money on a business that's donating back to planned parenthood or some lunatic leftist cause and so he started this basically business board If you go to publicsq.com, you can find all the businesses that share your values, whether at home or abroad.
And again, if you're going to be spending your money anyway, give it to a company that shares your values.
We have to start playing this game.
They can't cancel 175 million Americans, Glenn.
But if we don't get involved, if we don't take the effort to do those kinds of things, they're going to keep making the money, taking your money, using it against you, and fighting this way.
I mean, again, if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone.
And more importantly, if they're dumb enough to do it to someone with like my soapbox, they could care less about you.
And they'll do just that.
So we all have to collectively get in that game and push back.
I mean, PNC is a major bank, and someone had the great, yeah, we're just going to send it back.
Like, we're like, what did we do?
Did we spread anything that was inaccurate?
We're not creating anything new.
So it's not, we're just putting stuff that's out there by other mainstream media publications.
Wait a minute.
Hang on just a second.
Wait.
When does a bank become the arbiter of truth?
Even if you were putting things out that they said were untrue, there's been a lot of lies from the government and the government has called us liars for pointing it out.
When does the bank get to decide?
I'm doing a transaction with you.
You are taking my money.
I'm paying you to do these services for me.
It's all about our money.
That's our relationship.
At no time do you have the right to go, oh, well, you're, I saw that story and we should cancel you.
Are you kidding me?
100%.
We saw that a couple months ago with PayPal.
Remember, they were going to find you $2,500.
Well, I was like, so is PayPal going to start monitoring my social media that has nothing to do with PayPal and then decide.
So if I'm a guy like me who's been talking about Wuhan lab league theory for two years, of course I was proven right, but it would have been misinformation according to everyone in the mainstream media.
PayPal is going to be the arbiter of what happened in Wuhan and my opinion and be able to dox my account $2,500 per instance that on they have nothing to do with my social media.
They have nothing to do with my opinions, but they can somehow decide to charge me that much money each time and just take it out of my account.
It's a little debit there, Glenn.
I mean, that's what's going on.
So it's not just this instance of PNC Bank.
We saw it happening with PayPal.
I've seen Chase Bank not do the credit card processing for me speaking at an evangelical Christian event because somehow, you know, those, and I guess according to Chris Ray at the FBI, I mean, I guess evangelical Christians or practicing Catholics are now actual terror threats, except for, you know, the only people that aren't terror threats are the people that seem to actually be committing terror crimes in America.
But because they check some sort of woke box, you know, they're on the radar, but we're not going to bother to enforce them because we're busy monitoring your grandmother who was within 500 miles of Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Banks Treating Christians as Terror Threats00:02:17
Crazy.
Don, keep doing what you're doing.
And anything we can do to help you, let me know.
Your advice, your ask if you have an ask for the people that are listening.
Yeah, go check out MXM News so you're actually seeing these news and then spend your money wisely.
Go check out publicsq.com so you can find the stores in your area, the businesses in your area, the banks in your area, or when you're traveling that share your values.
They'll sign off on a whole list of things.
Or if you're a small business, put yourself on those platforms so like-minded Americans can find you and give you that boost.
I mean, that's the game that we're playing.
As much as all of this stuff is politics, if we're not playing that economic game, there gets to be a point where there's a critical mass that we won't be able to push back on.
So, you know, I'm in this fight and we got to keep going at it together.
Thank you very much, Don.
I appreciate it.
Don Jr., Donald Trump Jr. on the program.
MXM is what he's talking about and what he urges you to go do.
Just go to mxmnews.com.
It's a news aggregator.
That's all it is.
And that's just too dangerous.
Can't do banking with them.
All right.
Coming up in just a minute, I'm going to give you another way to fight this, but I also want to just point out for every one of you weasel Republicans that have said to my face and the face of others who have been in your offices saying this is happening.
And you said, what evidence?
You are so myopic that you cannot read the tea leaves that are on the table where it's clearly spelled out.
And you said, no, I'll do stuff for energy, but no, I don't want to take on the S or the G, and I don't want to give the people the right to get that information so they can sue.
How dare you?
Maybe you should reconsider.
If those bills in your house, in your state, have not been passed, you call your Senate and your house and you tell them, I want protection from the E, the S, and the G.
Why We Had to Stop00:02:10
This has got to stop.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Alex Stein, Primetime 99.
I've been watching him for a while.
And when I see people like him, I used to immediately go up and give advice and try to help.
And they always reject it.
And those people always end up on the trash heap of life because they're so super talented and they don't realize the world they're walking into.
Alex, I think, is the first one that is smart enough to know, oh, I'm aware of what the world is right now.
And you walk a tightwire.
You know, we had to stop doing it.
We used to do funny stuff.
Remember those days when we were funny, Stu?
And we had to stop doing it to be able to keep the brand alive and to be able to build the blaze.
And we built the blaze so people like you wouldn't have to be afraid of all that's going on.
And you just started a show, what, two weeks ago?
Three weeks ago.
Three weeks ago.
Who's counting?
You better be.
Yeah, I know.
You started a show primetime on Blaze TV.
And it is very different.
You remind me of me when I was young.
You're very different.
It's very funny.
And you have moments that are really, really deep.
And you're getting good people on and you're asking them logical questions.
And you're very dangerous.
Well, so please be careful because you're very dangerous.
The Dangerous Art of Bail Bonding00:03:45
And your kind of voice will cut the heads off of so much evil if you can hold it.
But you're going to be a major target.
Well, that's what I had an ex-capo in the Colombo crime family, a guy named Michael Francis on the show last night.
And I said, do you think AOC would ever put a hit on me?
And he said, not AOC, but all the rest of them probably would.
So you're right.
There probably is a target on my back.
And that's just kind of, you know, I don't live in fear, but I do want to thank you because you did pave the way.
And I know you built this company that gave me the opportunity to actually, you know, speak freely.
None of these media companies actually let their broadcasters or let their talent speak freely.
And nobody here censored me one time.
So not once.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what's so awesome about the plays.
It's incredible.
You know, they've let me be incredibly weird, guys.
But see, I don't want to be.
See, now, Glenn, though, you know, you walk that tightrope where you're so eccentric, nobody understands you.
So it's a fine line where I do want to have some serious stuff like this interview with Alan Dershowitz, because this is a serious issue.
You know, I know that's one of the reasons you want to have me on because, you know, this guy is one of the most powerful people in the world, probably the best attorney of our generation.
Like, I guess you could argue our Atticus Finch.
You know, literally, I mean, and he's connected with the most powerful people.
But listen, my family, we're in the bail bond business, Glenn.
We actually get people out of jail.
I don't know if you're familiar with that, but I'm actually a licensed bail bond.
Well, so wait a minute.
Hang on just a second.
So do you have a business anymore?
I have a business.
I'm a license.
Yeah, I'm in.
No, but I mean, is it doing any better?
I mean, because now you don't really need bail.
Well, yeah, really.
And that's why society is collapsing because in these cities like Los Angeles, there's a guy that had 17 prior arrests, Glenn.
And then he went and killed.
I know you know this and killed a 23-year-old UCLA grad student at World War II.
I could do one better.
In Seattle just this week, a guy who went downtown Seattle, shot seven people, killed one, was released without bail.
Yes.
I mean, it's like you have him on videotape shooting people, and you're all concerned about we got to get rid of the guns.
How about the people who are pulling the trigger of the guns?
Glenn, you can get a bond for capital murder now.
That was insane.
That was never 10 years ago.
That was impossible.
In Harris County, they're trying this.
In Houston, right down the street, so we say, oh, we're insulated.
It's happening in Seattle.
It's happening in California.
It's happening in New York.
No, Harris County, the biggest county in Texas.
So these people are infecting states like Texas where this bail reform, it sounds bad.
They actually say bail is racist and that you, a bail bond, I can't advertise my bail bond business on Google.
Yet the criminal justice system 100% has issues.
It's not the bondsman.
The bondsman are the third-party police that actually enforce these criminals to actually go to court.
So we actually hold them accountable.
Without us, a police officer can't arrest somebody and then re-arrest them for that crime, right?
So it's just redundant.
The police force can't handle all these criminals.
So by persecuting bail bonds, and you just give criminals an easier way to get out of jail.
And listen, the same form that you signed to get a public defender, that's the form that you signed to get an ROR bond or release on recognizance.
So if you got arrested or I got arrested or Stu got arrested, we wouldn't be able to sign that form and say I'm indigent.
So we would have to pay a bond.
So that just shows you how corrupt it is, that it actually just lets out the worst and most poor criminals.
So it's a really, really corrupt system.
Notice what he just said.
He pointed out three white people couldn't get.
And then he said, the worst, the poor.
You know what he meant by that.
All right.
No, but listen, we're not talking about the marginalized people, but the bail reform, that's one of the biggest injustices.
And it's just like anything with the federal government, they're so dysfunctional.
They go after the wrong thing.
You know, we do have an unfair criminal justice system.
And I think that we look at the for-profit prison industry.
I mean, that's a huge red flag that we have so many people incarcerated.
So it's not the bail bonds and faults.
It's the people who benefit from all the private prisons.
The Epstein Conspiracy00:08:18
How old are you?
36.
I'm old.
So you're 36.
I look young.
I'm getting older there.
No, I'm just saying I can't say I look like I'm 26.
I tried to.
Can I tell you on my 40th birthday?
I honestly said to myself, I haven't accomplished.
Do you remember this?
Did you know me when I was 40?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I thought, I haven't accomplished anything in my life of value.
We are just starting the show.
And we agreed wholeheartedly in the room.
And we just started this talk show about four years before.
And from 40 to 50, I was on national television, Fox, CNN.
I think we had 12 number one bestsellers in the next 10 years.
I mean, your 40 to 60s can be the best years of your life.
And I personally think I'm about to hit another leg of my life.
And I'm almost 60.
So you're not old.
Yeah, well, I know.
And I say that, you know, kind of facetiously, but, you know, the experience that I've had, I think that, you know, that I'm saying that I've been successful with that the Blaze has given me a show.
You kind of need that.
You kind of need life experience.
So you do.
All right.
So let's talk about Alan Dershowitz.
You just had him on.
Yes, sir.
And he talked to you about some things.
And he's very open about all this, but this just doesn't sound good.
No, and he said that before the interview that I'll face the toughest questions.
He prefaced the interview with that.
Yeah.
So here's where you took that.
You admitted to a massage of Jeffrey Epstein's.
I mean, that sounds bad in theory.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, as an attorney, how do we justify that?
Because even that clip, you said you didn't get many massages.
And then all of a sudden you're Jeffrey Epstein's having a massage.
It just raises red flags to the conspiracy theorists that are watching.
Well, it's my wife had a massage as well.
And I was having neck pains and I was representing Jeffrey Epstein.
And he said, oh, you're having neck pains.
I have this person.
I've had a few massages on my neck and my shoulder.
And there's just nothing wrong with that.
I did nothing wrong.
And I was the one who said I had the massage.
I didn't have to say that.
It was none of anybody's business.
But I have nothing to hide.
I wanted it all out there.
And if you want to infer from having had a massage for a massage therapist that we have checks for, or that my wife had a massage in Jeffrey Epstein's house, which she did.
And by the way, Nobel Prize winners have had massages in Epstein's house.
The Heads of various companies and universities, it was a very common thing to have massages.
Remember, nobody knew that Epstein was doing anything wrong.
But he did.
I mean, he was representing Jeffrey for that, right?
At the time.
He had some prior knowledge.
And listen, we're not putting Alan on trial.
I think he has been transparent.
I don't know.
We've had him on several times to talk about this.
He has answered every tough question.
I don't think there's a pattern in his life that shows that there would be anything like this.
He's also a religious man.
Doesn't mean that he's a good guy.
But I do think he's telling the truth on this.
Well, let's talk about who Jeffrey Epstein is.
I mean, whether, you know, my tinfoil had a conspiracy theorist mindset thinks, you know, that he was probably honeypotting a lot of people and heads of state.
I think he's putting him, obviously, in vulnerable situations with young people.
He was absolutely CIA or something.
So Alan could have been tricked or something.
I'm not saying that that happened.
I'm just saying you're dealing with a guy that has multiple passports.
And this is the problem that raises the biggest red flag and why we'll never ever actually get to the bottom of it.
Because if you look at the connection, you look at Prince Andrew's connection with Jeffrey Epstein being his best friend.
And then you look at Prince Charles, who's Prince Andrew's brother.
His best friend is a guy named Jimmy Saville.
And if you're familiar with Jimmy Saville, he's literally the most legendary pedophile of all time.
He was on top of the pops.
And listen how bad he was.
Oh my gosh.
Wait a minute.
Is this the guy who was a radio on ABC?
Top of the pops.
All that charity.
Knighted by the queen.
He was a porter at the royal children's hospital.
Listen to this, Quentin.
He was a porter at the royal children's hospital.
And the conspiracy is that he was.
No, it's not a conspiracy.
It's not a conspiracy.
This came out that he was a necrophiliac and that they would take bodies out of the morgue and they would do sexual rituals on boats and then throw the body out in the ocean.
That might be the conspiracy.
That's a conspiracy.
Okay, but he was taking, it's verified that he was taking children from the children's hospital, wheeling them around and then having sex with them.
I mean, this guy was the worst of the worst.
I did not, is he really very?
Yeah, he was knighted.
Yes, he grew up with Prince Charles.
Yes.
So you just look at the connection with Prince Andrew and now that he's being kicked out of the royal family, it's very ceremonial.
It's not serious.
There's other people that are in high up that have done stuff with children that have not gotten in trouble by the royal family.
Well, I just look at this Epstein thing and I mean, this is how Pizzagate.
Yeah.
This is how Pizza Pizza Prime Minister.
Which is stupid because it's not a sex trafficking ring out of a pizza park.
You know, that's not what's happening.
But that's how those kinds of things get some kind of leg because you see this.
And look, if that little black book had just truck drivers names in it, every single truck driver that was in that book would either be in court or in jail.
Yeah.
They spent one 100th of the resources they spent on January 6th on that black book.
Would have some satisfaction.
I mean, and no government seems to be interested in pursuing.
Well, because they're all apart.
I mean, was it in the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico?
Where was it?
Little St. James Island is in the Caribbean.
No, Where the where the attorney general, I think it may, I don't know, the attorney general was accusing a bank of laundering a lot of this money for Jeffrey Epstein and filed charges and going after him.
And he and she was fired that day.
And people don't even realize this.
Dennis Hacker, Speaker of the House.
I'm just saying there's powerful people that are, you know, that do bad stuff.
On the Dershowitz thing, though, I think it's important to note that, because I mean, these allegations have been out there forever, but the main accuser in this case who has accused Prince Andrew and a bunch of other people about the Epstein Island stuff, the only person she's come out and said, okay, yeah, it probably wasn't him, was Dershowitz.
The actual accuser came out and said, he's the best attorney in the world.
He is, but you know, she probably realized, hey, maybe I shouldn't accuse this guy.
I mean, I'm just doing it 40 years.
And then she just came out and said, maybe it wasn't him.
I mean, that's pretty significant.
I mean, yeah, especially because really you're more afraid of Dershowitz than the royal family and the Clintons.
No, you're exactly right.
Clintons have more bodies than O.J. Simpson could ever hope to have.
And this, now it sounds like I'm white knighting for Dershowitz, but I think Virginia Goofry, you know, she actually helped traffic other people, other people, supposedly victims to Jeffrey Epstein.
So she's not morally innocent in this whole thing either, I don't think.
I don't think you're going to find very many musicians.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Innocent people.
She was very young, though.
She was young.
I'm not trying to blame her.
I'm just saying it was a very bad web.
Yeah.
She was, you know, oh, Jeffrey, or Alan Dershowitz did this.
You know, she doesn't know.
It was probably a very weird time.
I think, too, like, my guess is if you go through that entire, you may disagree with this, but like you go through that entire black book, all those names, probably not.
Probably all of them did not participate in this.
But like part of the influence operation here, right, is once you're in the book, everyone thinks that you've done these things.
Right.
So even if Alan Dershowitz just did a massage one time with his wife on the shoulders, like the fact that he's in his book is going to make people question it till the end of time.