Dr. Robert Epstein and Glenn Beck dissect the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation, citing over 300 arrests and mob tactics like doxing as evidence of weaponized rule against the judiciary. They analyze Google's alleged election manipulation via search algorithms and the "Make Them Scared UW" platform, arguing these tools radicalize the left while eroding factual discourse. The discussion concludes that unchecked polarization has detached Democrats from American values, threatening the Supreme Court's legitimacy through vitriolic rhetoric rather than evidence-based judgment. [Automatically generated summary]
It kind of took a left turn there about halfway through.
Where it's like, I think this is a horror movie.
Yeah.
It's like, what was that movie with George Clooney, the vampire one?
Remember that Dawn to Dusk?
I missed the George Star.
It was like a normal buddy movie, and then it just turned into this real vampire horror thing like about halfway through.
It was really twisted.
It's kind of how today's show went.
Yeah, in the second hour of today's full broadcast, we had Robert Epstein on.
He's a guy who was the head psychiatrist at Psychology or Psychiatry Today and from Harvard, has all kinds of, I mean, a butt list of titles behind his name.
He also voted for Hillary Clinton.
And in the 2016 election, he did a study of 2,000 Americans who just they monitored their Google searches when it came to politics.
They found that Google was shifting their searches and stacking them in favor of Hillary Clinton.
The first 10 were pro-Hillary Clinton for everybody, no matter who you were voting for.
It's not the way it's supposed to work.
He has some serious warnings about Google that you have to hear.
We talked about that, what we've learned from the Kavanaugh thing as well.
You know, what is the standard we're supposed to have here?
Because it seems like they're now saying that they want to get more ruthless.
Ruthless.
Ruthless.
With the way that they, that's their lesson they've learned here.
Yeah.
They have to become more ruthless.
I don't know where you go from here.
And we try to explore that ground.
And I don't know.
Well, I got a couple of ideas from Genghis Khan, and we'll get into that.
Also, don't forget, we are coming to a city near you.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
I'm going to do some political strategizing for the left.
I've got a few governmental programs that they perhaps haven't thought of.
That, you know, hey, if you want to spend money, I'll show you how to spend money.
Also, some slogans, and we're going to have a lot of laughs and also go through some things on how to win this nightmarish war.
And it's not about getting more ruthless.
It is about standing and knowing exactly what you're standing for.
Okay, today's podcast.
You can find, by the way, the tickets at glennbeck.com slash tour.
Here's the podcast for today.
You're listening to the best of the Glenbeck program.
It's Monday, October 8th.
Hello, America.
Time to ask yourself a question.
Are we a country with a rule of law or do we just love this mob rule thing?
Do we believe in the presumption of innocence or guilty as accused?
That is the precipice we appear to be standing on right now.
Anybody who said that, you know, oh, I will never go over the cliff.
We're over the cliff.
This is it.
This is the moment to decide.
Yes, Judge Kavanaugh was ultimately confirmed and sworn into the Supreme Court.
But if you think things are going to get better, I think you have an extremely rude awakening coming.
The left successfully weaponized the mob to storm the offices of the Senate in the thousands.
There were over 300 arrests made.
They chased senators into elevators.
They screamed at them.
They released private information on the internet so more of the mob could follow them to their homes and call their phones.
They yelled, they jeered at Ted Cruz and his wife while on a date at a restaurant.
They even sent Corey Gardner's wife a text message depicting a decapitation.
They nearly ruined Kavanaugh and his family's life.
They wanted to destroy him.
Don't believe me?
How about this from the writer, the writer of the Colbert show?
Quote, whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Brett Kavanaugh's life.
This is all based on what?
An allegation that did not have evidence.
Now, you can believe her.
Many people do.
Many people believe him.
This is what we know as a he said, she said case.
We choose as Americans not to involve ourselves in he said, she said cases because we're not God.
Ask every single one of these people in private.
There is no way they would be doing this if they or someone in their family or I hate to say it, but somebody on their side of the aisle was being accused.
None of them.
But this is where we're at.
We're at the beginning of the race.
Unfortunately, not the end.
Today, it's accusations of sexual assault.
Tomorrow, it will be something else.
Mark my words, we are going to see it all.
It's going to get more brutal and more vicious.
And the further it goes, the worse it will get.
Politico wrote an article yesterday called, quote, Democrats fear they're the wet rag party.
Kavanaugh's victory leaves many on the left saying it's time to get mad and even, end quote.
Democrats, and I'm not talking about the party, I'm not talking about the people in Washington, I'm not talking about the people who are in their little 501c3 groups.
I'm asking regular Democrats.
I'm asking all Americans: is this the kind of country you want?
The article continues: quote, after failing to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation, Democrats wonder if it's time to be more ruthless, end quote.
More ruthless?
Do I dare ask how we could become more ruthless than what we've seen in the past month?
Democrats have already accused a man of gang rape and serial sexual assault.
They have said that he's a blackout drunk.
This political article, Politico article, is just one of a blitzkrieg of other similar articles pushed out over the weekend.
They sound exactly like the mob that has been harassing and doxing senators last week.
They're echoing the mob charges that Republicans somehow pulled off this giant scam.
Ultimately, they're helping pave the way for mob rule.
The man was accused of rape and sexual assault.
There is nothing credible to back up that claim.
So, what are we to do?
They expect a system where Pilot washes his hands and lays the fate of life or death in the hands of the bloodthirsty crowd.
We're in for a populist battle.
The radical left versus whatever remains of the sane in both the Democrat and GOP parties.
This is only the beginning.
America, please hold your place.
Remember what your mothers and your fathers taught you, the difference between right and wrong.
We are not a nation of chaos.
We are not a nation of mob rule.
We are not a nation of burning things down and beating people in the streets.
That's not who we've ever been.
But every generation has to answer that for themselves.
Is this who you want to be?
It's Monday, October 8th.
You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.
Stu, are you building guillotines yet?
I'm working on it.
Oh, man, it would be great if we just had some guillotines.
You know, our carpentry skills have really gone downhill.
Are they really?
If people would have listened to Mike Rowe a little more before they clubbed him to death in the streets, we'd be able to have nicely built guillotines.
I'm fascinated at the path to being more ruthless than accusations of gang rape.
Do we go to accusations of genocide?
Do we say the next possible Supreme Court justice was responsible for the Hutu Tootsie slaughter in Rwanda?
Is that the direction that we go?
No, I just think we just, based on this allegation, I just think we have our own Hutu Tootsie slaughter.
And then we blame the next Supreme Court justice for it.
I don't know.
This is incredible to see what has happened here.
And you really understand the concept of projection.
For years and years and years, we were told by the media how evil the Tea Party was and how they wanted to, they were going to harass people they didn't agree with in the streets.
And this shows how crazy they are.
They're going to get violent.
They're going to make threats.
They're unhinged.
All of these things, we now see the second the left has any challenge to its political power, they're all doing all of those things.
And they're really doing them.
They're not just fake accusations on CNN.
And I mean, everything to the point of this is a little bit off topic, but remember the old, the good old days when Glenn Beck was in the doom room and Glenn Beck was this apocalyptic know-nothing that just came after you with all these predictions of doom and all the terrible things that were going to happen to you to scare you into watching for longer.
Remember that?
When you remember that, take a look at the New York Times, who is talking about global warming today as if we are all dead tomorrow.
They commissioned a photo shoot with a crying little boy kneeling next to the corpse of some and skeleton of some endangered animal that is now no longer able to survive.
The apocalyptic nature of their coverage of a 0.9 degrees Celsius temperature rise over 100 years outshines anything you ever said about ISIS.
Well, I did like the fact that we've reset the clock.
We now have 12 years.
We now have 12 years.
Remember when we had the big countdown here?
Yeah.
For years, they had said we have until this date.
Okay, well, we counted down to that date, and they said it will no longer be able to reverse anything.
Irreversible.
It's irreversible after this date.
Well, they've moved the date.
Now it's 12 years in the future.
Of course, they do.
So they've got another 12 years.
How do you raise money off of something that's already happened?
I this is what happens when you no longer have anything to point to, where you no longer have you no longer have a standard.
A standard is a flag.
It's a banner that was high up in the air to show people that were fighting who we were, what we were.
That's what those banners were for.
That's what the flag is for.
It's a standard.
Advance the standard.
What is our standard now?
We have chased God out of the square.
That's fine.
That's fine.
If that's what America chooses, that's I and my family.
We have chosen a different path.
But as of today in America, you can still do that.
But I just ask anyone who wanted to chase our standard out of the public square.
Who are you replacing it with?
Where are we progressing to?
You're now calling for more radical ways to fight Donald Trump and the Republicans.
What could you possibly do?
There were 300 arrests over the weekend.
300.
You are threatening people.
You are showing up at their houses.
You're tracking them at restaurants when they're on dates.
You're hurling insults.
Well, I was going to say the only thing you haven't done is assassinate, but the left tried to do that.
And the media yawned.
Could I just ask, as the crowd is gathering and starting to go over this cliff, May I just ask, stop for a second, stop.
Where does this end?
Where are you going?
Chasing Heroes Off the Cliff00:02:47
What is your standard?
As we chased our heroes first all out, we chased them all out.
There are no heroes.
Is Abraham Lincoln even a hero?
We know our founders aren't.
Who are our heroes?
Who are they?
Our standard, what we based everything in Western society on, is being demolished.
The rule of law, but the first rule of law were the basic 10 commandments.
You don't lie about your neighbor.
You don't make things up.
You don't steal.
You don't hurt.
You don't kill.
The other part of the Judeo-Christian standard.
First, it's Moses the...
The other one is Jesus.
And I'm not talking about the church Jesus.
I'm talking about the real Jesus.
I'm talking about the one that never hurt a fly.
That no matter how bad things got, he remained peaceful.
That was our standard.
You know, the one who said forgiveness.
Democrats, what's your standard?
Who are you aiming to be?
Who are you teaching your children to be?
Republicans, I ask you the same question.
Who are you teaching your children to be when the when the articles include that the Democrats are angry and it's time to get mad and to get even?
vengeance doesn't belong to man.
Vengeance is bad as much.
As much as I think Brett Kavanaugh would like to go on the court and be vindictive and see the Democrats bring something for him and say.
Time to Save the Republic00:02:50
You know what?
I actually agree with the Democrats on this one, but no, if he did that, we should all be abhorred.
We should call for his impeachment if he did that.
And I would stand with you.
Who is bringing the nation together?
What leader, what leader is calling for peace and reconciliation?
Where is that voice?
I say to my audience and anyone who has been with me for a long time, this is the moment.
This is the beginning of the time that I told you would come.
This is the time that you have the ability to save the republic.
It doesn't take a lot of people.
Courage is contagious.
You must begin to stand with peace and forgiveness.
It does not mean surrender what you believe.
But somebody has to tell the crowd, stop.
You've gone insane.
Don't go that direction.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
Pretty intense news for you today, but we'll all get through it together.
And we're also, I want to remind you that we're going to be out for some laughs as well.
We're going out on the book tour.
It starts October 25th, San Antonio, the 26th, Houston, then the 27th of this month in Dallas.
Then we go to Richmond, Hershey, Pennsylvania.
We go to Cleveland, Ohio, Kansas City, Evansville, Indiana, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Tampa, and Orlando, Florida.
I was really worried for a while there we wouldn't have any material because the world is such a serious and insensible place.
But this Kavanaugh thing, I think, has made me, it's pushed me over the edge that we're going to be able to pull off this show.
Yeah, I think there might be some things to joke about, to poke fun at.
And of course, our very serious points.
We're going to be helping out the 2020 candidates for the Republican Party.
We'll be picking them.
And we'll be picking them and also giving them, you know, some helpful tips on, you know, maybe even some slogans.
False Allegations Across America00:04:33
Some messaging options I think will be important.
How to handle that campaign.
And how to treat you, I think.
And how to outsocialist the other socialists on the party.
Yeah.
Other things that you can promise.
You don't want to miss it.
It's a night of fun.
Addicted to outrage.
Go to glennbeck.com slash tour and get your tickets now.
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Okay, you ready for this one?
Mm-hmm.
Now, the question that I asked at the beginning of the hour was, is this who we are?
Is this what you want?
Where are we headed?
A website allegedly run by University of Washington students allows individuals to publicly accuse people of sexual assault without any evidence.
The website titled Make Them Scared UW was first registered in November of last year, but launched in late September of this year by University of Washington students.
The daily UW campus newspaper reports that the list of accused rapist and sexual assault perpetrators has grown substantially on the site in the last weeks because of the Brett Kavanaugh scandal.
Meanwhile, one student named on the Make Them Scared UW told the college fix that none of these accusations are true.
According to the FAQ page on the website, Make Them Scared UW is a communal rape list intended to be an online hub for anyone who wants to expose the names of their attackers and harassers and to fill a gap left by inadequate treatment of these cases by formal institutions.
One of our site's moderators will review your submission, verify your contact information, and after receiving your confirmation, publish the information you provided us, minus your personal identifying information.
Of course.
We do not have the ability to determine whether the accused party is guilty or innocent of the accused act, so please take all the names listed with a grain of salt.
Oh, I'm sure that's what's going to happen.
The college fix managed to contact one student on the list, young man who was identified as attending the University of Washington.
Student denied having sexually assaulted his accuser.
Quote, I was investigated by my school's office and found that there was insufficient evidence of what she was accusing me of.
Now, why would that matter?
We have to believe the witness.
Yes, I mean, they did an investigation and they couldn't find enough evidence, but is that really what we care about?
What about the poor accuser?
He said the allegation stems from a night which he and his accuser both were pretty drunk, after which he performed on her and then attempted to initiate intercourse.
You seem pretty comfortable with this.
I'm very accurate.
His accuser said no, at which point he backed off.
This girl gave the investigator all at my school, literally everything.
All of our Facebook messages, our Snapchat messages.
She saved all of them.
Text messages and even my Reddit account.
And I was deemed to be so not a threat to her that the investigator didn't even care if I was in the same class with her.
That didn't stop make them scared putting his name on the rapist list.
Asked if the school was aware if the website was run by students at the University of Washington.
The official said, we don't know for certain.
Asked if false allegations on the site made or posted by students or affiliates of the university would be treated as harassment under school policy.
The school said, if the university receives a complaint that an individual was being harassed or bullied by a student, we would investigate it in the same manner as we would any other case.
So being listed on a website as a rapist isn't being bullied?
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The Danger of Search Bias00:15:14
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Robert Epstein is the author, editor, and longtime psychology researcher and professor, distinguished scientist who is passionate about educating the public about advances in mental health and behavioral sciences.
The former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today.
He is now the senior research psychologist of the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology and contributing editor for Scientific American Mind.
He is the founder and director emeritus of Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies in Massachusetts.
He's also the author of 15 books, rookie, and received his PhD in psychology from Harvard University.
Doctor, welcome to the program run by a high school graduate.
But I did get my diploma.
How are you, sir?
I'm very good, Glenn, and it's an honor to be on your show.
Thank you.
It is good to talk to you.
I wish it was on happier circumstances.
First of all, could I just ask you, I don't know if you heard that story about Kanye West, the people now saying that he is mentally ill for having his own point of view, agree or disagree.
This is a disturbing trend, is it not?
Well, he uh I mean, you know, people in the in the in the mental health professions are forbidden, uh, strictly forbidden from from diagnosing from a distance.
So I'm not going to say he's, but, you know, he does say some extreme things that actually, you know, angers even some of his closest friends.
No, no, no.
I mean, he's been, no, no, no.
Don't get me wrong.
I don't, I'm not saying that he's a stable guy.
I'm just saying that now to say based on what you think politically that you are mentally ill is a is a is a real problem.
Well, I think, you know, we've been doing that to each other for, you know, hundreds of years.
It has to do with a two-party system.
And as you know well, George Washington, John Adams, and others of the founding fathers, they were vehemently opposed to having a party system because it's divisive.
It just makes people crazy.
It's just gotten worse and worse and worse.
Okay.
Let me talk to you about what you're on for.
And that is you're in a documentary that I found last week.
And I really was fascinated by what you brought to the documentary.
The documentary is called The Creepy Line.
It's not out yet, but it's coming out soon, thecreepyline.com.
And you're a guy who was a Hillary supporter, and you decided to see if Google was being fair with their news.
Is that correct?
During the last case?
With their search results.
With their search results.
And...
Yeah.
And what did you find?
Well, I had already found years before that, I'd been studying search results, and I had already found that when search results favor one candidate or one cause for that matter, that shifts opinions and it shifts votes.
And I mean, dramatically so.
It can shift voting preferences among undecided voters by 20% or more easily and by up to 80% in some demographic groups.
Okay, so wait, Explain how that works.
Sure.
Well, we're bombarded, as you know, by all kinds of information, all kinds of media sources, you know, people ranting and raving on the radio and television and newspapers and magazines.
All that stuff is competitive, and people are very wary about it.
You know, their bias detectors are kind of always working.
Even when they listen to their favorite commentator, they're still kind of, you know, you see the human hand, and everyone knows humans are kind of, all right.
And it's how people are using, yeah, of course.
But when people are using, it turns out, my research shows, other research shows, when people are using something like a Google search engine, they turn off the bias detectors.
They automatically become very trusting because they think this is an algorithm, not that they know what an algorithm is, but this is an algorithm and I can trust it because it's objective and impartial.
So that when Google answers your question about anything, what tends to happen is that people trust what's higher up in the list.
They think the algorithm has very carefully and objectively selected, and it must be true.
So if you favor one candidate or one cause or one company or whatever it may be, one product, in search results, people tend to believe what's easest to the top.
And what I showed in a series of randomized controlled experiments that we've now done with four national elections involving more than 10,000 people,
I've shown over and over and over and over again that by favoring one candidate, you can shift in a country like ours, millions of votes with no one having the slightest idea that they are being manipulated and without leaving a paper trail for authorities to track.
So that is scary.
It is.
You lay this out in the creepy line about how Google has really stripped itself of all ads and everything else so it looks totally clean and neutral and without an agenda.
And then how they have, you know, when you first did it, I think one of the tests you did, you did it where you were clear with an agenda.
Then you added one that might go in the other direction.
And then you added two search results that would go in the other direction.
And you got it to a point to where Google is, to where you don't have any idea you're being manipulated.
Correct.
Absolutely no idea.
So when we did this in a national study in the U.S., almost no one was aware that they were seeing biased or search results, search results that favor one candidate.
This really creepy thing there was that the very, very few people who could spot the bias, they shifted even farther in the direction of the bias.
So being able to spot the bias does not protect you.
We did a big national study in India right in the middle of their election there in 2014.
99.5% of people in the study could see no bias whatsoever.
They couldn't see the favoritism.
And yet we're still getting these big shifts in their voting preferences.
So this is unprecedented in human history.
This is an ability to shift people's thinking and behavior worldwide.
It's not just in the U.S. because Google is used for 90% of all searches conducted throughout the world.
And in other words, they have the ability to shift people's thinking, behavior, votes, purchases, attitudes, beliefs around the world.
They are doing so 24-7 without people knowing and without leaving a paper trail.
Because when you're showing someone's search results, that's not like a news story that just stays there for people to look at.
It's generated just for you on the fly at that moment.
Disappears, gone forever, stored nowhere.
Would you is it an overstatement to say whether it's Wilson and Bernays in World War I or Goebbels World War II that this is the system that they would have dreamt of for propaganda?
Oh, this goes beyond their wildest dreams because it's not just the search results.
I just published a big article called 10 Ways Big Tech Can Shift Millions of Votes in the November Elections Without Anyone Knowing.
Now, the one we're talking about, which is called the search engine manipulation effect, or SEAM, SEME, that's just one of 10 ways that I've identified over the years and that I've been studying.
Well, I'm studying seven of them at the moment.
That these big tech companies have to shift votes that are unprecedented in human history.
They've never existed before.
And some of these effects that I've discovered are among the biggest ever discovered in the behavioral sciences in 100 years.
And there is no doubt in your mind that Google is engaging in this.
Well, in 2016, early 2016, working in secret, I developed a system for actually monitoring what people were seeing while they were using the Google, Bing, and Yahoo search engines that was election related.
So it's as if we were looking over people's shoulders.
It's called a monitoring system.
It was the first ever created.
And so we actually monitored for more than five months before the election in November 2016.
And we found a systematic bias in search results favoring Hillary Clinton, whom I favored, by the way, as you mentioned, in all 10 search positions on the first page of search results.
Now, that's pretty blatant.
That's pretty extreme.
Of course, these leaks that we've seen recently from Google, you know, they tell us, you know, that, yeah, people at Google have very strong political preferences and that they act on them.
And I don't think we should be surprised that we found that.
And, of course, now I'm working with business partners and academic colleagues on three continents to try to scale up monitoring systems like that.
So for the first time, we'll actually be able to see what these companies are showing people throughout the U.S. and ultimately throughout the world.
And we'll, I think, be able to make these companies accountable to the public at some point.
I wish we could be fully up and running in time for the midterms.
And at this point, I'd say that's not going to happen.
But we will definitely be there for 2020 and beyond.
And we're looking at more than elections because there are lots of ways in which these companies are playing with us that people are just completely unaware of.
And speaking of which, Glenn, am I in trouble?
Well, kind of.
Yes, kind of.
I have good news and bad news for you.
Okay.
Can we start with the bad news?
All right.
No, let's say that.
The good news is that Glennbeck.com and your email service that you use is you're not sharing information.
You're not sharing your emails with Google.
Now, interestingly enough, the New York Times, the Times of London, The Economist, Wired magazine, Slate, I could go on and on and on, they share all of their emails all the time with Google and other sensitive documents too.
And so reporters, when they're doing very sensitive investigations on something, they're sharing everything constantly with Google.
And I wrote a piece about that.
It was in the Daily Caller a couple of months ago.
Good news is you don't do that.
Let's end it there for just a second.
Okay.
So excuse me.
So you were just about to give me more good news.
Well, no, the good news is, again, you do not share your emails with Google.
Like a lot of major news organizations like the New York Times and the Boston Globe, they do.
But bad news is that Glenbeck.com uses Google Analytics.
And so what that means is everyone who has ever visited your website is tracked.
Every single thing they do on your website is tracked by Google.
So here's a problem as a business owner.
Google Analytics are the best.
How do you do business without Google at times?
That's always the thing that gets you in the end.
Yeah.
Well, sure, but it's this convenience thing over and over, and their products are so good.
But you don't realize that these aren't real products.
They're just surveillance platforms.
That's the only reason they run them.
Every single service they provide is just another surveillance platform.
I do have a little bit more good news, though, which is that film that you mentioned, The Creepy Line.
Yes.
When you had one of my new very good friends, Peter Schweitzer, on your show recently, he's the one who really got that film running.
Sure, it wasn't available.
But now, as of right now, it is available both on Amazon and on iTunes for rental or sale.
And it really is a fabulous film.
And don't Google it.
Just go to thecreepyline.com.
When you came out about some of this stuff, and again, you were a Hillary supporter.
When you came out about this, you were blocked by Google for a time, were you not?
Well, when my research first hit the news in the Washington Post, I found that starting the next day, I couldn't access any Google products.
I couldn't even access Google.com.
So I have these amazing screenshots that are just shocking to people because you can't even imagine not being able to access Google.
I have screenshots getting these timeouts saying, no, you can't get there.
Big Tech Mind Control00:05:11
Sorry.
That's amazing.
Okay, let's go through some of the effects that you are monitoring.
We have about a minute here.
So why don't you just take one of them on?
You say there are, let's see, seven, ten.
Is there ten of these that you're following?
There's ten altogether.
Okay, ten altogether.
Okay, so let's take on one real quick.
Beginning.
Very good.
Okay, here we go.
This is called SSE or the search suggestion effect.
When you start to type a search term into the Google search bar, you are being manipulated from the very first character that you type.
So if you type A, depending on your history and other things, chances are you'll get Amazon right away.
They'll start flashing suggestions at you.
And Amazon, it turns out, is Google's biggest advertiser, paying them $300 million a year.
And Google sends more traffic to Amazon than any other single source.
But beyond that, we've learned through our experiments that Google can use search suggestions that they're flashing at you to turn a 50-50 vote among a 50-50 split among undecided voters into a 90-10 split with no one having any idea they're being manipulated.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Is it too much to say we're at mind control or the threshold of mind control, Doctor?
Well, we've been there for a long time.
There's no question about it.
There are literally right now more than 2.5 billion people, soon to be over 4 billion, whose thoughts and purchases and beliefs and attitudes and voting preferences are affected dramatically every single day by some manipulations that big tech companies are perpetrating on them.
And that's happening now.
So that's already going full steam.
It's just getting worse every day.
So I want to reset that you did a study during the last presidential election.
You are a Hillary Clinton supporter, but you're a truth teller.
And you were doing a study on Google search results and found that they were trying to manipulate it in favor of Hillary Clinton.
Now, you say that's only one way.
We then have the search suggestion effect, now target messaging effect.
What is the targeted message?
Sure.
Targeted messaging, TME, we call that, is these are all things that we study and that we're quantifying and very precisely.
But targeted messaging effect is really scary.
This means that if a company, this would primarily be Facebook, but other companies too.
But if a company like Facebook on Election Day, so let's go back to November 2016, if that morning Mark Zuckerberg had chosen to just hit the energy and send out go out and vote reminders mainly to supporters of Hillary Clinton or exclusively, either way.
First of all, no one would know that that was even occurring.
No one would know it was going to some people and not others.
But if it went just to supporters of Hillary Clinton, that would have given her that day an additional 450,000 votes.
Now, I don't think he did that because he was very overconfident, as were Democrats.
I'm not a Democrat.
I'm a moderate independent.
But the point is, everyone thought Hillary was going to win, so I'm pretty sure he didn't do that.
But the point is, we know from Facebook's own published data that just sending out that kind of reminder selectively dramatically, dramatically shifts votes.
And think about it.
No one knows if something like that is happening.
In fact, if it's happening every single day, there are targeted messages going out to some people, but not others.
And of course, isn't that what targeted advertising is all about?
But you see, targeted advertising, though, is competitive.
But I'm talking about what happens if the platform itself does something.
That's not competitive.
It's completely invisible, and it's not competitive.
So I mean, this is so dangerous.
And it is, I mean, it's everything that a sci-fi writer has envisioned forever.
And I mean, can especially when we get to artificial intelligence, couldn't a system like Google be used to identify unstable individuals and wind them up?
Oh, yes.
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In fact, they know who's unstable.
They know who's undecided.
They know who is Republican and who is gay and you name it.
They know far more about us.
I mean unstable.
I mean unstable mentally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, you're absolutely right.
They have literally unprecedented power to shift people, yes, shift unstable people, shift anybody.
And they know they have this power.
One of the leaks from Google was a little internal film there, eight-minute film called The Selfish Ledger.
You want to get creeped out?
Watch that film.
That's an internal film there where they're talking about their power to reshape humankind.
I've seen it.
It's terrifying.
So before we, because we're going to run out of time, what do we do?
Well, there's things that we can do at the individual level, especially for parents, which I am.
And there are things that have to be done at a much higher level, governmental or organizational.
So at the individual level, we can take some steps to protect our privacy and privacy of our kids.
So I have an article very easy to find online that's called Seven Simple Steps Toward Online Privacy.
I can give your staff a link to it.
Yeah, we'll send it out in our newsletter, which is not tracked by Google.
Seven simple steps.
Okay, we'll send that out today.
Sign up for our newsletter if you don't have it not tracked by Google.
But we'll send that out today, and I'll also make it available at GlennBack.com.
Yeah, so there are some things that you can do.
And one of the many things that's not on that list is you shouldn't be using Google Analytics, which Glennbeck.com is using.
So that's at the individual level.
Now, at the organizational, governmental level, there's other things.
You know, hang on, you shouldn't even be using a Google Chrome browser.
But even if you go to, is it Microsoft browser that is powered by Google information?
I mean, there's no problem.
Yes, I do know.
And no matter where you go, Google is there.
Google now pays Apple computers $9 billion a year to be the default search engine when people are using Safari, which is Apple browser.
Google is paying Apple $9 billion.
Next year, they're supposed to pay them $12 billion to be the default search engine on Safari.
This is for any Apple device at all.
So Google is everywhere.
Where do you think Siri gets its answers from?
It gets its answers from Google.
Siri is Apple's personal assistant.
So I could go on and on and on.
But at the institutional level, there are things that have to be done.
One of them, which I'm helping to work on with people now, and we need money.
So if you guys have money out there, step up.
But we are building monitoring systems.
It's basically with people's permission to look over people's shoulders and see what these companies are actually showing people and how they're manipulating people.
I'd love to be a part of that.
How can people donate to that?
Well, they can go to mygoogleresearch.com, mygoogleresearch.com.
That's a very simple way to donate.
That supports the research that I do, but also that's helping to provide funds to build monitoring systems, which must exist.
They don't exist.
I did build one in 2016, but we need large-scale permanent monitoring systems to keep all these creepy, arrogant people under control.
So I am very concerned about AGI and ASI.
And I'm concerned that in two ways, I feel as though we need some sort of a Manhattan project to make sure America is the one that gets it first.
But on the other hand, I don't know who I trust to have it.
I mean, you cannot put this genie back in the bottle.
But when we hit AGI, we are in real trouble, are we not?
You have no idea.
Seriously, if you knew the stuff that I knew and you were looking every day at the numbers I look at, you wouldn't even get out of bed.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'm going to go back to bed now.
I mean, I've read a lot about it.
So what do you suggest?
What should we be asking?
I mean, Congress is just useless.
Our government is just, they're not paying attention to this at all.
And it's moving so rapidly, by the time they would enact something, it will be too late.
That is correct.
So regulation and law is not going to help us too much because they just move too slowly.
And tech moves extremely fast.
So that doesn't mean we shouldn't contact our congressional representatives.
Of course, we should to try to keep the pressure on.
I've been a speaker at meetings of the attorneys general, the state attorneys general, and those guys and those women can move, they can move fast.
They can do things.
But beyond that, you've got to start at the individual level.
I mean, if you're using Gmail right now, that's insane.
If you're using Chrome, that's insane.
If you're using an Android phone, that's all Google.
You're nuts.
You're crazy to use products because those are all just surveillance platforms.
That's all they are.
They're just gussied up surveillance platforms.
They're just excuses Google has come up with for us to just tell them everything about ourselves.
Do you know how much information Google has about you?
No.
They have, just based on your age, which I know roughly, they have the equivalent of about 3 million word pages of information about you.
So, I guess I'm at the point to where you don't get up out of bed like you.
I mean, so it's overwhelming.
So what does that mean?
I mean, how do we, there's no way to get it back.
Are you familiar with Solid?
Let me go here.
Are you familiar with Solid and Inrupt?
Yes.
Is there any chance that that is going to play a role in the future?
Is that a pathway?
It's hard to tell.
I'm going to have to say probably not because it's very, very hard.
Google and Facebook in particular are so powerful and so embedded that you can't really cut into them.
People don't want to leave them.
They love them.
And so it's hard.
I know lots of people working on alternative kinds of services.
And a lot of people are talking about blockchain and so on.
But the reality is we're talking about 90% of search around the world is done on Google.
These two companies are serving right now more than 2.5 billion people.
That'll be past 4 billion within the next three years.
They're just growing and growing and growing by leaps and bounds.
It's concerning what they're doing in China.
I mean, I don't know how they sleep at night.
Well, that's outrageous.
That is absolutely outrageous because they're actually partnering with the Chinese government to participate in the Chinese government's aggressive program to control all of its citizens.
And Google is participating in that.
I mean, literally making it easier and better, making that kind of system easier and better.
That's outrageous.
Doctor, I would love to fly you in and spend a couple of hours with you and have you on regularly to be able to monitor and help in any way that we can to get the word out.
This is the thing that I think America and the world should be concentrating on, and no one's talking about it.
The world is being redesigned by a handful, and we're just not aware of it, and it's going to change overnight.
Doctor, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
Absolutely.
It's been an honor, a true honor, Gwen.
The left believes they need to become more radical, and they need to turn things up a notch.
Now, I don't know how you do that.
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I mean, now I did recommend guillotines.
I guess they could start using guillotines.
I do like the old, you know, Genghis Khan, take the leadership, roll them in carpets, and then just have horses trample them.
But that might hurt a horse, you know, and the left would not want to do that.
So I guess you could get a smart car or, you know, a Chevy Volt, but that's set on fire and then you die screaming.
It could be a win-win there.
Way.
Oh my gosh.
Did you just threaten?
Yeah.
What are we talking about here?
How do you turn this up, Pat?
How do you turn this up without violence?
I think the only level up is revolution, isn't it?
That's about the only thing they haven't done so far.
They're screaming in people's faces.
They're showing up at restaurants and department stores and everywhere.
Maxine Waters told them to in homes.
They're clawing at the door of the U.S. Supreme Court.
They're threatening online.
Yeah.
They're scaring people.
They're charging them with crimes they didn't commit.
I mean, I think we're all pretty sure he's not a gang rapist, right?
We're all pretty sure.
I think even Michael Avenatti knows that.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, there were five people, five people.
Only one charge was Ford.
Ford was one.
The other four, they weren't real.
Now, why do we say, well, no woman would do that?
Well, no, you've got four people over here who did.
There are multiple huge stories of fake accusations of sexual assault that have happened over the past few months.
So this happens all the time because women are people, right?
Women are people and women do bad things just like men do bad things.
Big story.
I think it was in California of a high school kid who was accused by these high school girls.
They called them the mean girls.
Yeah, it was in the same city where the movie supposedly took place.
And so these girls all got together because they didn't like this guy and decided to accuse him of sexual assault.
He went through all kinds of hell over it.
And after six months or a year, they finally admitted, yeah, no, we made that up.
Why?
Because we didn't like to listen to him and I didn't like to look at him.
Oh, wow.
Amazing.
So did you hear incredible stuff?
Did you hear Make Them Scared, the website, Make Them Scared?
No, I haven't.
This is from the University of Washington.
And it's a website where you can just, you know, put your allegation out about how you've been raped or whatever.
You just include that person's name, you know, where they are, what class, et cetera, et cetera.
And just we're going to make them scared.
Wow.
Yeah.
By university students on the University of Washington campus.
I mean, what else?
What else?
I mean, this is the world the left is increasingly embracing, legitimizing, and calling for.
And what are the normal civilized ways to escalate a situation when you're not getting what you want?
Right.
You can do things like you can escalate your language.
It's hard to escalate past gang rape accusations.
It's kind of hard to go past that with your language.
I guess you can go to murder.
You can go to genocide.
There's a couple other things I guess you can accuse a Supreme Court justice of to get your way.
Then you have like they already say the United States is a genocidal country.
I mean, there's no way you can increase the language against America or men.
So then you can go to structural or procedural type of things.
But I mean, look what they did here.
They pulled out every stop.
They tried to get, they delayed and delayed and delayed.
They tried to get an FBI investigation.
Then they said that wasn't enough.
After seven.
Yeah, he said seven FBI backgrounds.
And with no evidence, absolutely zero.
Thousands and thousands of people show up screaming, we believe.
We believe the survivor.
Well, survivor of what?
Why?
I mean, until it's confirmed, she's not a survivor.
Right.
I mean, at least to us, she may, if something happened to her and she's telling the truth about Kavanaugh, yes, she's a survivor to herself.
But as a society, we have to judge it based on the facts.
Right.
And I don't condemn her.
I don't wish ill towards her.
Nothing.
Nothing.
I don't know.
I wasn't there.
But we don't destroy either life.
And there's got to be some evidence against the guy.
It's not up to him to prove he didn't do it.
No.
It doesn't.
No, they don't need evidence.
Can we play the audio of this is me.
This is me half listening.
Somebody said to me, Glenn, you don't want to do this interview, blah, blah, blah.
And I heard London.
I thought I heard the BBC.
And I was like, oh, yeah, because I thought they would be, you know, they would be detached from it.
And so there would be a chance to actually have a decent conversation.
I sit down in the chair, I put in my headphones, and I hear CNN International.
And I'm like, oh, dear God, did I say yes to CNN International?
Yes.
Oh, geez.
And so we go on the air.
You can imagine what CNN is saying on Friday.
But I want you to listen just to how this ends.
I'm asking, look, may I suggest another reality here?
That maybe he wasn't an angry man.
Maybe he had a right because people were accusing him of gang rape.
She goes through all of these things.
She doesn't have an answer for any of them.
So she goes here.
Now, listen to this argument.
Let me, Glenn, ask you about your tweets, because this is how people express themselves oftentimes and how you build sort of a picture of someone's opinions.
Okay, so you can imagine Glenn Beck tweets.
It's got to be a bad one, right?
Right, of course.
And I'm thinking to myself, what have I said recently about Kavanaugh that would be bad?
How could I, man, I've tried to be a peacemaker on this.
Listen to what she says.
Opinions of someone's thoughts, of their impressions on what's going on.
So we can judge.
I can put up one of the tweets that I found interesting that you put out in the last few days.
Americans are, I can't read it, guys.
You got to put it up here.
Americans are fair, and I believe they see the pain on both sides, and without evidence, will not want to choose.
If the Democrats cram this down, we're talking here about the, I imagine the Dr. Ford testimony.
I believe Americans will rise up at the polls, but you're saying that we're being too partisan in the United States.
But are Democrats not Americans?
It seems like these two things are mutually exclusive.
This is the problem.
Did I say Democrats are not Americans?
You know, you should take a breath before you just try to get yet another ratings point or another.
I mean, they may stop doing it.
She needed a, she needed an Emmy, or maybe, maybe she needed an Olympic medal for the gymnastics that she had to go through to find a fence there.
Democrats, you know, we should just start to, we should start to be more clear, perhaps.
But I'm glad she was worried about policing my language as opposed to all the other tweets that are happening on the left right now.
Democrats, it's the party.
I think the party has detached from the Democrats that I know.
They do not want to be a part of more radical, more dangerous kind of stuff.
That's the party.
That's not the actual person.
So are Democrats not American?
Are you kidding me?
You got to stop tweeting that.
The Democrats aren't Americans.
Why did you do that?
Why?
We can judge you.
You know, we can read a lot into what people write and we can judge you.
Yeah, you mean the tweet that starts, I believe Americans are fair and they won't want to judge either side?
Well, you heard her say that she couldn't see it.
It almost seems like she had a pre-built intro.
Here's something offensive.
You said, guys, I can't see it.
Oh, I think all Americans are fair.
She didn't find this.
Anyway.
Did you guys hear the Vice editor who talked about the protesters at these events?
I thought this was fascinating and it's not getting a ton of attention.
It was on ABC's This Week, Vice News DC Bureau Chief Shauna Thomas talking about the protests.
Listen.
And we also saw people who were organized.
And that moment with Jeff Flake on the Hill, we talked to one woman who works for Ultraviolet who was paid.
She helped steer people in the right ways to be able to confront Senator.
There were paid.
There were people who were paid by organizations like Ultraviolet to try to harness that energy in a way that would make the viral moments that we ended up seeing.
Wait, what?
Wait, wait.
The demonstrators were paid to create fake viral moments?
Sarah, could you play the first part of that CNN interview?
Because it's so great now.
Play the first part of that CNN interview.
CNN International.
Let me, Glenn, ask you about your tweets because Yeah, the other.
I mean, that's a vice.
That's vice.
That's not a right saying, yes, they were paid for it.
People know that.
One thing is very clear: there is a deep partisan divide in Washington right now.
It's permeating through a divided nation.
What needs to be done to change that is a question.
Or has it always been there?
It's just something that we're noticing more now because of social media and cable news, perhaps.
Media personality and political commentator Glenn Beck has written extensively about this in his new book, Addicted to Outrage.
He joins me now from Irving in Texas.
Thanks for being with us.
You bet.
One of the things, one of the things you said is you acknowledge that some of the work you did on cable news contributed to this polarization.
And I would love to have other voices join me, but so far I haven't had anybody.
I think we're all responsible for what's happened to our country and to the Republic, and it is becoming more and more disturbing.
I've spoken out about it for the last five years.
I have talked to members of press.
I've talked to people.
And the only ones that seem to be interested are the people who are actually living day to day in the country.
I think they are disgusted by this entire process.
I think that many people, when they heard the charges, were open to listening.
They did.
They watched it.
I know several people that watched last week and gave Professor Ford all the benefit of the doubt.
Many people watched it that I know that were for Kavanaugh that said, I'm not sure now.
I don't know.
But they've really been.
What's wrong with the process?
She had allegations against Judge Kavanaugh.
She aired them.
Then the committee heard from Kavanaugh.
Those who don't support his nomination say, in fact, it was all rigged in his favor, that the FBI didn't talk to people who could have corroborated.
You know, I've heard the press ask over and over: will this be good enough?
Will this be good enough?
For what?
For people to not change their positions?
And I don't say that just about the Democrats.
I mean that about the Republicans, too.
There are people that it doesn't matter what the facts are.
This was not a search for facts at all.
And the money outside of Washington that is being poured into this to bring people into the streets, the vitriol behind all of this has really been remarkable.
And if we don't.
You're saying this is coming from outside money?
That these are not genuine protesters who are appalled by what's going on, who believe that the voice of a woman is.
Let me see.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask this mighty CNN a question.
Stop.
It's not what you're saying.
It's what she's now.
They have the people.
What?
That's who you saying.
That's crazy.
It's not even convincing, like, outrageous.
No, it's, you know what?
And she might even believe it, but that's how sheltered they are.
That's how sheltered they are.
They have absolutely no idea.
I listen to the New York Times daily every morning, and it is hard to do.
And I listened to it this morning, and they were talking about how this whole process, how what the Republicans did, delegitimize the Supreme Court and how dangerous that is.
I'm not kidding you.
Within five minutes, now some Democrats say that they should delegitimize the Supreme Court because it's an outrageous right-wing organization now.
Wait, what?
I thought delegitimization was really bad.
Now you're for it and you want to encourage people to do it?
It's just not about the truth.
Insanely transparent.
Yeah.
How do we fix it?
I don't know.
That's what Pat's going to do coming up on Pat Gray Unleashed.
Yeah.
I've been holding back until now.
All right.
Today I'm going to see the answer.
All right.
That answer is coming up in just a few minutes on Pat Gray Unleashed.