Jeffy and Pat Gray critique the film "First Man" for omitting the moon flag, arguing it rewrites history, while analyzing Ted Cruz's Texas race against Beto O'Rourke, whom they question regarding his polling and media portrayal. They label Ron DeSantis's campaign a "cult" reliant on Trump endorsements before addressing caller Michael's denial of climate change, who cites failed models and natural cycles to refute global warming. Ultimately, the hosts defend scientific consensus despite these challenges, highlighting the ongoing cultural and political battles over historical narratives and environmental policy. [Automatically generated summary]
Jeffy, along with Pat Gray field in today, and we've covered some ground today.
Yeah.
The first man movie, not including the American flag on the moon.
The whole thing's about the moon landing.
I don't want to get angry about that.
And one of the first things was planting the flag, and they ignored that because it transcends all borders and countries.
Of course.
So we get into that.
We also talk global warming, which is out of control.
And something has to be done.
Something has to be done.
And what are we going to do about it?
We'll find out from Al Gore.
There's a big boycott going on, I guess, with In-N-Out Burgers.
We talked about that a little bit.
And we talked a little bit about Truck Cultism.
I mean, is that actually a real thing?
It is for one person.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Ron DeSantis.
And you'll hear his ad.
All that and more is coming up on the podcast.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
It's Friday, August 31st.
The Beto Hype machine is in full operation right now.
Not only are they trying to say that Beto O'Rourke, who is the challenger that's taking on Ted Cruz for his Senate seat in November, not only are they saying that he's only one point behind Ted Cruz, now they're talking about him for a potential run for the presidency in 2020.
I mean, it's just getting ridiculous.
Come on.
Can we calm down a little bit?
A huge article from Vanity Fair.
It seems like Iowa in 2007.
Is Betto O'Rourke the left's Obama-like answer to Trump in 2020?
They want him to be.
No, no, he's not.
They want him to be, though.
That's why all the money's pouring in.
I think people are going to be really surprised when they find out this guy is white.
I think they're going to be pissed.
Wait, you're not Hispanic?
Where did Betto come from?
Well, a culturally appropriated Hispanic nickname.
Well, it is.
It's a Hispanic nickname for Robert Francis O'Rourke, a guy who couldn't get any whiter or more Irish.
So good.
They're making it such a big deal out of him.
The article mentions how he's visited all 254 Texas counties in Toyota Tundra.
Oh, they followed him around like little lapdogs.
Does these running town halls where he runs and then stops and they all gather together on the lawn and he does a town hall and then they start running some more so the guy can jog wow, that's the one I want in the Senate then, or maybe even the office of the presidency, if he can jog and then do a speech.
Right, not that I could do that, it's just that I'm not sure that qualifies the guy for office.
But they're in love with him.
The left, the media, is just head over heels in love with Betto O'Rourke.
This cannot happen.
It can't.
Not in the state of Texas.
That's what I'm hoping.
Cannot happen in the state of Texas.
I mean, according to this latest poll, he's one point behind.
I tend to doubt that a little bit, especially because they used registered voters for that poll, not likely voters.
And that could change it dramatically.
If you eliminate those who, you know, they might be registered, but they're likely not going to vote.
I think Ted probably has, you know, he's got to be up by more than a point.
I don't know what it is.
I sure hope.
I don't know what it is.
I hope that's right.
I think in the end he maybe wins by 10.
I hope.
But again, I also say even maybe more.
I'm pretty invested in this because I pledged to eat my underwear if Betto O'Rourke beats Ted Cruz.
Really?
Yes.
He was up by, I don't know, 14 or 15 at the time.
Plus, that was before.
I mean, Betto had still been, you know, they were getting behind him as the big push, but that was a little bit before.
And I'm not making excuses for you, and you still will step up to the plate with your bet.
But that was a little bit before the big Betto push.
And boy, I mean, they have just, they love this guy.
And it's.
Yeah, he's getting all kinds of money from out of state.
All kinds of California money.
For whatever reason, just in love with him.
Oh, yeah, and Ted Cruz.
Yeah.
I know.
Ted Cruz is the U.S. senator, by the way.
Oh, by the way.
Bigger name on the line.
And by the way, it did not appropriate any culture.
That's right.
Right.
If he did have a Hispanic nickname, it'd be okay.
He's not appropriating anything.
Thank you.
It's just, it's kind of agonizing.
And, you know, Ted is taking some time off.
He's not even going back to Washington this week for some of the votes.
He's missing some of them because the campaign is so important right now.
He's actually campaigning right now and making sure that he shores up his base here.
And I think, you know, there might be a problem with some complacency in Texas.
We just, you know, you think that's Ted Cruz.
He's not going to lose that.
He's fine.
I don't need to donate.
He doesn't need that money because, well, Betto has outraised him two to one.
Two to one in this campaign.
It's unbelievable.
That's a big chunk of change.
Yeah, it really is.
And again, I think it's in part because of complacency.
We've also talked about the Trump thing.
You know, he angered Trump fans at the Republican convention because he didn't endorse him.
And then for those of us who kind of admired that because he stuck to his guns, two weeks later, he did.
And so then we were a little hacked off.
Right.
But it's time to get over all that because he's a little scary.
He's talked about as well the campaign when he was first running for Senate where they had held their money back.
He used the phrase, kept his powder dry until it got closer.
Right.
And then spent the money on, you know, promoting the campaign.
So, you know, we're in the final drive, the final turn heading into November.
So maybe that's what he's doing now too, as well, is making that push.
But it does feel, and I say feel because I don't know for sure, but it does feel like Ted needs to get a vote on.
Yeah, it does.
And I think he feels that too.
I think there's a sense of urgency now in the campaign and with the cruise people.
And, you know, tomorrow's the first day of September.
So it's time.
It's time to start paying attention to this.
It's time to start telling your conservative friends to get out and vote and make sure that we don't let this fall by the wayside and lose Ted Cruz in the Senate.
That would be unbelievable.
I know it's Democrats eating their own, but that's the same thing that kind of happened in New York with Cortez, right?
I mean, he was just like, yeah, I'm not going to lose.
I've been here forever.
I'm fine.
Yeah, he kind of took it easy.
Right.
And she lost hit the pavement, man.
She was out there getting the press and it paid off.
Right.
Well, she's from, you know, she's Jenny from the block, essentially.
She's from the hood.
Except she wasn't.
No, but, you know, that 40-minute drive from the Bronx every day, from the Bronx where she lived, to the school where they enrolled her 40 minutes away every day.
Well, except that's she didn't live in the Bronx that whole time.
She lived near the school.
The Moon Landing Flag Debate00:04:51
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Big, big new movie coming out.
You've probably heard about it, First Man.
It's about the first man on the moon, Neil Armstrong.
So it's getting rave reviews.
The trailer looks great.
Yeah, it looks like the trailer looks really good.
It makes you want to see the movie.
Ryan Gosling, I like him as an actor, and he's, I think, did he also direct this?
He stars in it, and he did not direct it.
Did he executive produce it or something?
Because he's talking like he had something to do with this particular decision that we're taking issue with.
I hate it when they do this kind of stuff because then it puts you in that quandary of, well, I don't want to support that, but I don't want to miss the movie.
It's just a matter of, you know, which is the more driving force to me.
Do I want to see First Man more that I'm angry about them not planting the American flag on the moon in the movie?
So they skipped that whole event.
You know, when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon, one of the things they did, one of the first things they did was to plant the American flag.
That wasn't a sign that America claims the moon for our own.
No, in fact, we made a point about that.
It just meant we did this.
We were here.
Okay.
We set out to do this in a decade and we did it.
And it's quite an achievement.
And nobody else has ever done it to this day.
Here we are almost 50 years later and it's still never been done again.
Right.
Except by us over and over until we got tired of it.
We just kind of got bored.
We're like, okay, we've been there, done that.
Yeah, well, we found out.
I mean, Armstrong even said later that the United Nations tried to hone in on putting their flag up.
You know, and they could.
When the United Nations gets to the moon, why go ahead and plant the UN flag?
That'd be great.
But finally, we decided that it was going to be our flag, but we weren't going to make any territorial claim.
Right, yes.
So if you want to go to the moon, go.
Exactly.
You want to put your flag up there?
You can do it.
As soon as Mexico is able to get to the moon, they could plant the Mexican flag on the moon.
I don't care.
Well, Pat.
I mean, let's not get ridiculous.
But seriously, if any other country were to have done this, we would not be having an argument over whether their flag was going to be in the movie.
No, it'd be in the movie.
Absolutely.
100%.
If it was the Soviet Union that beat us there, the Soviet Union flag would be planted in this movie.
100% believe that.
So is it just something, though, that maybe they just didn't focus on?
It just wasn't part of their story.
No, this was a conscious decision not to plant the American flag on the moon in this movie.
Ryan Gosling said, I think this was widely regarded in the end as a human achievement.
And that's how we chose to view it.
I also think Neil was extremely humble.
Well, that's true, but so what?
As were many of these astronauts.
And time and time again, he deferred the focus from himself to the 400,000 people who made the mission possible.
You mean the 400,000 Americans who made it possible?
Yeah, it wasn't 400,000 Soviets or Chinese or French.
It was 400,000 Americans.
And even if it did transcend countries and borders, as Ryan likes to call it.
Okay, good.
Yes, it did.
Great.
And I know that Neil Armstrong didn't see himself as an American hero, Ryan.
No, he just saw himself as an American.
Thank you.
I don't think he did consider himself a hero, but I think he did consider himself an American.
Absolutely.
He even, he said that, look, my job was to get the flag there.
You know, I left the debate over what flag was going to be there to, you know, he, I think he is, what was smarter minds or whatever it was.
But the, you know, but the deal was, is that it was our flag because we decided that, no, United Nations, it wasn't you that did this.
It was us.
And we won't claim the moon.
If you want to go there, you can go there, but we're putting our flag there.
And how proud at the time?
I mean, this is just absolutely.
It's agonizing.
Changing the Republican Party Fundamentally00:06:31
It really, really makes me angry.
Yeah.
I mean, one of the proudest moments in the country that we've tried to relive how many times.
It's one of mankind's biggest achievements.
And it was done by Americans.
And it was done after the vision was laid out for us by JFK.
And he said, in the next decade, we will do this.
And we will do it because, not because it's easy, but because it's hard.
And they got it done.
And it cost a lot to get it done.
Yes, it did.
Both in blood and treasure.
And so to rewrite history when you do the movie about it is ridiculous.
It's insulting.
It is insulting.
And it's disappointing because I've been hearing about this movie.
I know.
We played the trailer.
Look at the trailer.
I really want to see this movie.
And I hate supporting this kind of crap.
But, you know, everybody's going to go to it anyway.
Everybody's going to go to it anyway.
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Okay, Craig in Ohio.
Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hello, guys.
I wanted to bring up a point of, you know, what I saw Trump do this past election.
I saw him mobilize a lot of Democrats, in my opinion, to vote for him.
I see him mobilizing the Hispanic base, the African-American base over to the Republican side.
But where the Democrats are now becoming Democratic socialists, I feel the old conservative mantra, the old Republican mantra, we also need to morph, right?
So I feel if we lose the House this November, it will be because, for instance, a lot of Democrats in Ohio that voted for Trump aren't ready to vote for Steve Shabbat, who's been in Congress, you know, 20 plus years, has the old, almost the old, you know, things about him where, hey, he's probably anti-gay marriage, he's anti-this, anti-this.
I feel that that skin needs to be shed almost, and Trump's started us down that path.
I think there's a lot of people that traditionally voted Democrat that are ready to embrace conservative ideas, but just not all of them.
And I think we need to change the party fundamentally a little bit.
I'm a millennial myself, always been Democrat, or excuse me, voted Republican, but there's things the Republican Party, and we heard more about it under Obama than we do Trump, but for instance, gay marriage.
I personally don't care.
My friends don't care whether two guys, two women, want to marry each other.
We just don't.
It's not important to us.
We want to raise our kids.
We want to be raised.
We want to be left alone.
We want everybody to be able to live their lives.
Well, that's the point, though, right?
We want to be left alone.
Stay out of our lives.
Correct.
Now, that's not to say, hey, we're ready for everybody to be able to use whatever bathroom they want.
And I don't think that's what people want.
But I think the Republican Party as a whole needs to re-examine themselves and say, hey, maybe some of the old hardline stances, we need to embrace these Democrats now.
My father's a teamster, 30-year Teamster.
He now votes Republican because of Trump and some of the new ideas.
But we need to embrace these Democrats that are fed up with that socialist title.
And really, I think we can gain back control of the country for a long, long time and not even have to worry about losing the House in the November election, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I mean, I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, Craig.
I think the party, to a certain extent, has already embraced Trumpism.
And that includes a lot of what you outlined.
As far as the same-sex marriage thing, that horse left the barn.
So I mean, there's no sense in even talking about it, really, right now, because it's over.
That debate's over.
Supreme Court ruled on that.
I don't know if you want to make it an issue to try to reverse that trend.
That would be a tough battle.
And so, yeah, maybe you leave that alone.
But there's a lot of things that Trump believes that I don't necessarily want to adopt in the Republican Party.
And so I'm not sure I'm on board with changing the fundamental platform of what the Republican Party should stand for or once stood for.
It doesn't really stand for that anymore, it seems to me.
Because everybody's given up on their principles, right?
We just caved in.
Yes, we just caved.
And so, you know, if you have certain beliefs religiously, there is a reason for the beliefs that people have and the things that we fight for.
And so a lot of those have just been, have just been flushed down the toilet in the Trump age.
And it's not about those principles anymore.
It's about what Trump believes.
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
I'm more concerned about the principles than I am whether or not Trump supports them.
And I guess I'm alone on that because, I mean, as we played earlier, listen to this DeSantis ad.
Everyone knows my husband, Ron DeSantis, is endorsed by President Trump, but he's also an amazing dad.
Ron loves playing with the kids.
Build the wall.
He reads stories.
Then Mr. Trump said, you're fired.
I love that part.
He's teaching Madison to talk.
Make America great again.
People say Ron's all Trump, but he is so much more.
Big Lee.
So good.
I just thought you should know.
So embarrassing is what that is.
So, so embarrassing.
What you got, Florida?
What you got?
Is it better than the socialist?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
Would I vote for DeSantis over Gillum?
Yes.
I don't even know what he stands for, though.
I mean, you know.
He believes in a lot of things, Big Lee.
He believes in the cult of Trump.
Climate Change and Energy Transition00:14:02
And is that enough for people?
It certainly pushed him into that slot.
Yeah.
Where he's at.
I mean, Adam Putnam was winning until Trump rubber stamped.
DeSantis.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's amazing.
It's just amazing.
So do we want a big tent party?
Yeah, I guess.
As long as you don't have to compromise your principles.
Do we want Democrats to be comfortable voting Republican?
Well, yeah, unless you have to compromise your principles.
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
You know, some would call it.
Yes.
When the government takes it from you and gives it to somebody else, that's charity, right?
It's beautiful.
And that's what Jesus wanted.
Remember when he said Rome should take your money and give it to somebody else?
Remember that?
All those references.
I read that on a burger wrap or something.
All right.
Michael in Colorado.
Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Jeffy.
Hi.
How are you guys doing?
Good.
I just wanted to kind of circle back around and readdress the climate change.
And I wanted to ask you guys a direct question before I say what I have to say.
All right.
You really don't think that climate change is real?
Do I think man-caused climate change is real?
No.
That wasn't the question.
No, I do not.
Do I think the government, the planet maybe warmed 0.9 degrees in the last hundred years?
Yes.
Okay.
Do I think that's cataclysmic?
No.
Do I believe that's on humans?
No.
Okay.
All right.
If you want to have the conversation, you have to first accept the viewpoint of the other side and find out what that's about.
And it doesn't seem to me that the right is taking, well, most of the right is taking any of the conversation very seriously.
In the first place, why not change to renewable?
It's going to be expensive.
We know that, you know, but the ocean levels are rising.
The ice caps are melting.
We see this as something that is going to be detrimental to human life on the planet.
This kind of stuff.
This has happened throughout the course of the planet.
I mean, the ice caps melt, then they reform.
The sea levels rise, then they fall.
And this is part of the natural process of the planet.
It's happened forever.
We accelerate that by utilizing the resources of this planet in the way that we do.
Well, I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
I'm not saying that he's a smart guy.
What he is, is a mouthpiece for a lot of really smart people that have put together the data that he presents.
That's it.
He's a politician.
He's not a guy that knows what the math is.
And do you know that out of the climate models that have been put together for him, out of the 92 climate models, do you know how many of them have been accurate in predicting temperature rise?
Zero?
Oh, I don't know that number.
None of them.
Probably not.
It's zero.
It is zero.
Zero.
It is zero.
I'm telling you what the number is.
It's zero.
So we're observing an accelerated, like, I'm not even a scientist, and I see spring coming later, fall coming later.
The cycle of the seasons is changing.
You need to move to Texas, my friend.
It's summer all freaking year round.
All year round.
See?
Has it always been?
Yes.
Yes, it has.
I don't know.
Yes, it has.
It's always summer in Colorado now, too.
And that's not normal.
No, it is not always summer in Colorado.
Get out of here.
I mean, I lived in, I grew up in Montana.
I grew up in Montana, and it was cold and snowy some years, and it was less than cold and snowy some years.
It's just, it's a cycle.
It goes inside, and it has much more to do with whether there's El Niño than climate change.
It's a cyclical climate that we have on this planet, and there's nothing you could do about it.
There's nothing you can do about it.
If you step back and look at the severity of that cycle, it is no more severe than it's ever been.
Where are the more frequent, more intense hurricanes?
Where are the more frequent, more intense tornadoes that Al Gora was talking about in An Inconvenient Truth?
Didn't happen for 12 years after the movie.
12 years.
12 years.
The worst hurricanes that we've ever had in history have just happened.
Michael, no, that is not true.
A, that's not true.
B, it took 12 years for there to be any hurricane after Inconvenient Truth.
There hadn't been a major hurricane from 2005 all the way to last year when one finally hit Houston.
Why didn't you talk about those years at all?
You didn't talk about those years.
Nobody did.
Why?
Because they were quiet and there was no neat reason to.
And it didn't fit the agenda.
It didn't fit the narrative for the climate change catastrophists.
They didn't want to talk about it, so they didn't.
And then when the first major hurricane finally does hit, then it's cataclysmic climate change.
It's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
It's a hoax.
It's the biggest hoax in mankind's history.
The biggest hoax in history.
Exaggerating.
If they're exaggerating, then they're exaggerating, and that's fine.
But that's fine.
So let's take a look at every both sides exaggerate to prove their point.
I'm not exaggerating.
What have I exaggerated?
You are.
What have I exaggerated?
Well, you can't say that zero scientific studies on climate change.
I can because it's true.
Look it up.
Look it up.
It has to be an exaggeration.
Look it up.
It's not an exaggeration.
And I know because you never hear that side of the argument.
How old are you, Michael?
You're a millennial?
How old?
35.
35.
Okay.
So all you've heard your whole life is what you're telling me now, right?
I mean, you've been peppered with this in school.
You've been peppered with it throughout your young adult life and you just bought it because nobody sat you down and showed you the actual statistics on it.
No, I think that I've seen enough data and made my own informed decision to believe it.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
All right.
But you've never even heard that the climate models are.
I mean, where were you the last 12 years of no hurricanes, though?
Where were you then?
I mean, there's a hurricane in Hawaii right now, isn't there?
No, it was a rain event, but it passed the islands.
It passed the islands.
But again, again, there have been hurricanes.
But from 2005 to 2017, there were no major hurricanes that made landfall in the United States of America.
Well, in the United States of America, what about that white weather?
Well, that's what we were talking about in An Inconvenient Truth.
We were promised by Al Gore that they're going to be more frequent and more intense because of Katrina.
So the inference there is it's going to affect the United States.
He says at exact face value.
Nobody knows exactly when it's going to occur or whatever.
The thing is, the last thing I want to say is, so the Paris Agreement, everybody else is still sticking to that.
There must be something to that.
No, not necessarily.
There's another country's ideology that says this is probably a good thing.
I can see the benefit of this.
But we pull out because we want to keep burning coal like we were in the 1700s.
We can't move forward.
No, we are trying to move forward.
You mentioned renewables, and now you're back to them again when you first started your call.
No one is against renewables, but we don't have any renewables that are as strong and as productive as what we're using already.
There's no plus with renewables being subsidized.
We can get renewables that actually create power.
We don't have to worry about the lights turning on and off when we come into the house, which we all like, including you, I'm sure, like to come in the house and go, oh, I just hit the switch.
There's the light.
We have that in America because of coal and power that other countries don't have.
And we're not saying, appreciate the call, Michael, and appreciate talking to you.
Yeah, it was great.
I'm glad you called.
But I'm not saying that it should be coal anyway.
Nobody's talking about bringing coal back to the levels it once was.
It once was, no, but I think Trump is.
It's mostly natural gas that has replaced a lot of the coal energy that we used to burn.
And nuclear power.
I mean, there's a million different things we can do.
Wind and solar just aren't ready to replace it yet.
Right.
When they are.
Wind and solar, Michael, if you're still listening and hopefully you are, account for about 5% of our energy.
About 5%.
That might be a little too high.
I think that's high.
I think that might be too high.
It's 4% or 5%.
It's somewhere in there.
If you combine the two, wind and solar.
But they're not sturdy enough.
So there's no renewal.
What I'm saying is there's no renewable energy ready to replace fossil fuels.
Now, when you have it, let me know.
I'll do it.
I'm happy to embrace it.
We've got a generation of people that have been so indoctrinated with that, that have been so convinced in the education system that they believe they see it every day.
I mean, is there anything different that is happening today than has ever happened?
We've always had fires.
We've always had heat.
We've always had cold.
We've always had snow.
We've always had drought.
We've always had rain.
We've always had all of these things.
Not like this.
Yes, like this.
Not like this.
It seems bad now because it's happening now.
You forgot what it was like when it happened before.
You mean like the floods that they call the 100-year floods?
Those kind of floods?
Those kind of floods.
Stuff like that, where it places different places in the United States and around the world, but specifically in the United States, where, you know, every 100, 250 years, this particular area will flood.
Yes.
And then about 30 years into that 150 years, we decide, man, that's never going to flood there again.
We'll build there.
We'll start building all kinds of homes there.
We'll build businesses.
We'll build all kinds of stuff there.
Look, if something starts to happen, we can take care of it.
Nope.
Doesn't happen.
Oh, I remember when I was a kid, the Mississippi River used to flood all the time.
The Missouri River would flood people.
I mean, people got flooded all the time.
I remember hearing about the floods in the Midwest all the time.
When I was a kid in Michigan, my grandparents lived on the Cass River, and every year it flooded.
There were pictures of the water coming up to the back of the house, coming up to maybe the back of the workshed, because their house was the second lot in from the river.
And so, okay, I would come up to the house, and it would just, oh, yeah, came up to the back porch steps this year, came up to just the back of the garage this year.
And then the 100-year flood comes and it buries all the houses that they've built up to the second floor.
And it's not pretty, and it's ugly.
But now they say, well, maybe we shouldn't build there.
You think?
Earthquakes, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes.
We've always had them, always had them.
And then we're told they're going to be more frequent and more severe, more intense, more frequent in 2005 because we just came out of Katrina.
Everybody's sensitive to it.
Everybody's afraid of it.
We're told that 12 years go by, and we don't have a single major hurricane in the mainland.
Not one.
We have a couple of little ones, and even those were few and far between.
Yeah, and they bring up Sandy, too, which was not a hurricane.
Not a hurricane.
It was a tropical storm.
Continue to dram that one.
They continue to call it a hurricane Sandy because it was a hurricane when it was out in the ocean.
Right.
But by the time it made landfall, not close to it.
It was not a hurricane.
Exactly.
So then last year when Harvey pops up, it's global warming all of a sudden.
Wait, what about the last 12 years?
Are you kidding me?
Those meant nothing?
And what do you mean that the sea level rise?
Al Gore has said, and he's getting his experts facts on this.
Al Gore has claimed the sea level is going to rise 20 feet in the next hundred years.
Florida should be underwater by now.
It's just, it's unbelievable.
And he's claiming victory when it floods in Miami for a day or two and then it recedes.