Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect Prince Andrew’s arrest at 66 on Epstein-related misconduct charges, tied to his alleged role forwarding confidential emails while as trade envoy. They also scrutinize Les Wexner’s deposition—suspicious body language and $1.3B stock loss—while debating Epstein’s financial exploitation networks, including Rothschild ties. Meanwhile, they condemn glyphosate’s carcinogenic risks, FDA/EPA delays, and a GOP Farm Bill shielding pesticide producers from liability, calling it corporate corruption. The episode ends by linking Trump’s UFO order to distractions amid Iran tensions, while teasing future guests like an FBI whistleblower and Ohio governor candidate. [Automatically generated summary]
I saw you message me while I was live that the chat was broken.
I was like, well, it is what it is.
And it really sucks because the reason why people are a fan of shows like this, you know, just stuff on the internet in general, is because it's a real community, right?
And you get to interact with people, you get to read comments, you get to share ideas with each other.
And when that's down, it kind of really sucks, right?
Because you realize, like, hey, I don't have, you know, the connection with my audience that I'm used to, you know, when the app is functional.
And the things that are going on with the algorithm and they keep trying to update it and make it work and fix this and fix that.
It's like every tweak that they're doing, it's breaking something else.
And, you know, I'm seeing a lot of platforms.
I don't think it's censorship.
I really don't think it is.
I think, I mean, you've got clear cases like a fishback, of course, but like, I don't think it's like a censorship in terms of like D like pushing your platform forward.
I think it's literally just the fact that they can't get the algorithm together and all the other things around X.
Yeah, I think the problem is, is Elon tried to grow X very fast.
And the integration with Grok, I think, is probably messing things up on the AI side.
I think it's the AI integrations that are kind of doing things.
And coding is a very delicate thing.
Whenever you're coding, things are built off of each other and the slightest error can actually break a bunch of things because it's all intertwined together.
I mean, a simple comma can mess up an entire code.
So I don't know.
I think they're trying to do a lot with Grok and integrate it and try to have Grok be the engine to fuel the algorithm and all the different things with that.
To be honest.
Could we go without it right now?
Honestly, just for a working app, I would take it.
I think people are underestimating how much military technology we have.
I have people who work directly in the logistics.
Yeah, who have work directly in logistics that have like the top classified clearance where they're like able to work on Air Force One, those types of things.
He's directly in charge of coordinating and moving a lot of the military assets around the world.
They say, okay, we've got these bad guys here, and we want three trucks, two Blackhawks, and a bunch of these weapons.
Get them over there, get them there safe.
He does that and coordinates.
And he's like, dude, the stuff I wish I could tell you about, you would be completely shocked by the amount of things that we have that I just can't tell you that we have.
Right.
There's things that will go out there autonomously, do its mission, and come back.
You know, so someone's going to see something eventually, which is to the point of everyone, you know, kind of there's, there's a real common folk belief in this type of thing, uh, to say it that way.
But if you're going to have a trillion dollar, half a trillion dollar defense budget, you're going to come up with stuff like this eventually, right?
It's, I mean, it's just, it's mathematically like impossible for us to be the only things in the entire universe with how big it is and how vast it is.
It's just whether or not, you know, what if this is a genjutsu in a matrix?
So like people, their only point of reference to certain things is like, okay, well, it has to be a negative thing if there's an alien or something that's out there.
But like, let's do like a thought experiment here.
Let's say your aliens are real.
If they actually wanted to kill us, they would have already killed us if they had that capacity or whatever.
So it's like it's not happening.
So you can probably lean towards the side that the movies are just kind of exaggerating certain details.
We, we don't, we don't normally get into the weeds of it, but like, well, it's just an interesting topic because, like, both me and you, I think, like, if we saw like real data, we could be convinced.
But generally, like, I'm not, I'm not too much of a skeptic in this regard.
It just doesn't interest me that much because it's like you say, like, it's a control mechanism or it could be a distraction.
Say what you want, but Iran leans towards a more like, how do I say, conflict-driven state, to be honest, with that whole region?
And I'm not saying that the United States and some of these other countries aren't responsible for destabilizing those things, but they have internal conflicts between Sunni, Shia.
You've got other forces that are in.
I mean, Iran is the most stable out of all those Middle Eastern countries, but still, like, I think the fact is, is just like, I just don't think I wouldn't want North Korea, but like, they already have them.
So I'll make the historical argument and then I'll also make the hypocrisy argument.
The talk that we hear from Trump 24-7, we'll go back to the article.
And just everyone in the administration, everyone in government is they are a theocracy.
They make the war where the hijab.
They murder the protester, blah, blah, blah.
They cannot be allowed.
Like, we got to overthrow this regime.
I would say that it's the pot calling the kettle black because we give all this money to Israel to do whatever they want with our weapons with literally no oversight.
And they have, you know, that that's a Jewish state in the same way that Iran, you know, is a Shia Muslim state, right?
So my thing is, I'm not like a Jackson Hinkle or like one of these people that's like, I'm pro these other nations, right?
I'm not pro like America or America's allies.
I'm pro these other nations.
I'm not like that.
Like I'm pro-America and I want America's interest to do well, even if it's like a stun-cost fallacy, right?
Like we give all these people this money.
Shouldn't we get something out of it?
That's always been my critique, right?
And then the historical argument that I'll make is they are Shia Muslim.
They fund proxies.
We say that's bad.
We fund Sunni Muslim proxies.
So it's just the whole thing to me is a complete mess.
And the main thing is it was promised not to happen.
And like you can look at Trump tweets from like 2015 where he's like, Obama, because he's weak, try to start a war with Iran to stay elected and stuff like that.
And it's just like, come on, man.
Like, like, how, how are we here?
And I agree with you, right?
Like, in the interest of being reasonable, we want the world to get along, right?
I'm not going to be like, hello, like Akbar.
I'm not leading the charge for them to have nuclear weapons.
I don't want them to have nukes, right?
But the reality is, like, what are we realistically going to do about it?
Instead of making them abide by a framework and allowing them to trust us, you know, I think they're a little kooky.
I don't think they're as kooky as we say.
I think if we were more reasonable, if we were like, hey, Russia, hey, China, we will work with you.
I think there could be a deal made there because one of the main complaints that the Iranians have made is like, okay, we're willing to do third-party enrichment, but only with Russia or China.
And they don't like that deal because the West is like, no, you're going to do it in France and you're going to be our slaves.
But like, I think the thing is, is why they could have had them is you could have had Russia give them.
I think the threat of sanctions or something else or U.S. getting involved and doing something to Russia, Russia realized, ah, that's not really worth our time.
And honestly, I don't even know if Russia really wanted them to even have nukes like that.
I mean, I think that the way, I think that may have been true initially, what you're saying, but the way America and the West have pushed the world with the imperialist control, it's making, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Right.
And, you know, Putin sees a lot of his people die and he's seeing a lot of their people die in the 12-day war.
There's peaceful part of the Muslim Brotherhood, but there's actually the violent part too.
And that's the one that I have to take into consideration when I think about, well, there aren't really any violent Christians anymore that are going to be like, let's just blow up the whole world.
But there are, it depends on who you're talking about.
Like, also, I wouldn't care if Saudi, well, I wouldn't really care if Saudi Arabia or like a Dubai had nukes because they're they are cooperating on the global front, whether you want to say that's American influence or whatever.
Either way, they've got the equation right where they can keep their heritage, but then they can also mesh well with the Western culture to where they actually are making a ton of money and it actually makes sense.
But notice how much we've degraded our capabilities to negotiate abroad and to get these deals done by acting like a giant toddler, right?
With the military and with the weapons and all we just go into Venezuela and take.
I think the other countries look at it and they go, look, even if this is going to be horrible for us, even if we have to eat dog food for 10 years, we don't want to work with the United States of America.
And I think that's the real tragedy of the Trump administration because he promised to come in and be a peacemaker, right?
With all these different various parties and factions and groups.
And all we've gotten is, you know, more of the same, you know, a more aggressive flavor of backing one side of a conflict, right?
Instead of actually, you know, like when something happens and people disagree, you have to compromise, right?
If you want us to work together, there's no, like, it's like Walter White.
He's like, there's no your anything.
There's only my all of it.
And it's like, well, that's not how things work.
We need rare earth minerals.
We need global shipping.
We need oil.
We need all these things to happen.
And if a nation can do something like block the straight of hormuz, they have real negotiating capacity.
They end up going after Israel directly or they go after the bases in Qatar, Kuwait, those types of places.
Because blocking the Strait of Hormuz, like that, you're declaring war even on China at that point because they have a ton of traffic that's true there.
Yeah, well, hey, we kidnapped one before and it wasn't a problem.
You know, but this is the thing right now.
Here's the thing.
Like, I agree with, like, these are rational positions.
I just don't think we're dealing with rational people, but the cool thing, not the cool thing, I shouldn't say cool thing because it's very sad.
Super cool.
Of course, yeah.
Super, all the blood.
It's fantastic.
We're like Lindsey Graham on the show, but we're going to see it happen.
Or not happen.
You know, but the Israelis have made it clear, and I'll go ahead and read the rest of the article. that they really consider the ballistic missile range to be a non-negotiable thing that has to be dealt with.
And I don't think the Iranians are going to do anything about that because I think that they think it's crucial to their existence.
It's existential.
So that'll be interesting to see.
Mr. Trump is now deciding whether to take military action against Iran as soon as this weekend official said.
But unlike last June, where the United States joined Israel and attacking nuclear sites in Iran, the president's objectives are less clear.
The Armada includes the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, who is accompanied by three warships that are equipped with Tomahawk missiles and that were used to strike two of Iran's nuclear facilities last June.
The warships also carry air defenses.
The carriers, stealthy F-35 fighters, and F-A-18 attack planes are well within striking distance of dozens of targets in Iran if Mr. Trump was to order them into action.
And I guess that's all we got there.
In a major increase of firepower, the U.S. recently ordered a second aircraft carrier strike group into the region.
This includes the Navy's most advanced aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford.
That's where you're talking about earlier, Tim, and three of its accompanying destroyers.
On Wednesday, they were on course to the Strait of Gibraltar.
According to flight and ship tracking data reviewed by the New York Times, the Ford's warplanes were used in the January 3rd attack on Venezuela that captured President Nicholas Maduro.
Additionally, another destroyer was sent to the northern Arabian Sea and one is en route, according to a Navy official, bringing the total in the wider region to 13 destroyers.
The Mufawak Saati air base in eastern Jordan appears to have become a central node for the U.S. air assets in the buildup.
At least two waves of attack aircraft arrived at the base between mid-January and mid-February, bringing the number there to nearly 30.
My nose, man.
Damn.
In addition to attack aircraft, four electronic warfare jets, which are used to jam radar and communication systems, arrived in Jordan in the end of January.
And a January 30th satellite image showed at least five MQ-9 Reaper drones at the base.
Flight tracking data and satellite imagery suggests that the United States is also moving additional aircraft, including refueling planes and reconnaissance aircraft equipped with sophisticated sensors and cameras into the region.
Dozens of tanker and cargo aircraft have also recently repositioned from the United States to bases spanning Europe to supply the forces in the Middle East.
Okay.
And the Pentagon has dispatched more Patriot and Thad air defenses into the region to help protect troops there from retaliatory strikes by Iranian short and medium range missiles.
Not the peace through strength, really the strength part.
Because when Biden was in here, man, we were just bending it over backwards for anybody.
I didn't feel like we had a backbone during from 2020 to 2024.
Like, quite literally, every country was just kind of walking all over us, being able to say whatever they wanted.
And at the same time, I saw, especially with the whole Russia thing, I was like, at the time, technically, if Trump was in position at that time, it wouldn't have happened.
And so then, like, at the same time, I look at Biden.
just kind of like they didn't know what they were doing with that whole situation so i was just the whole situation it was a whole city it was It was a situation for sure.
But I'm just saying, he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
And, you know, watching him deteriorate in real time, no one takes him serious in meetings, right?
It's like your grandpa sitting there with Alzheimer's.
Well, I hope Trump gets things at least he's just got some cognitive ability still left and maybe he'll actually be able to like calm some things down so that the world doesn't feel like it's burning.
So, you know, as long as you're just, you know, stealing Ukrainian oil money or doing whatever, you know, maybe that's better than barbecuing a baby, ultimately.
But we'll go ahead and get into the whole tableau of monsters.
Holy crap, the warm emoji.
Former Prince Andrew has been arrested by British police following revelations of the newly released Epstein files.
Andrew Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the younger brother of King Charles, was taken into custody this morning on his 66th birthday.
Yes, extraordinary news out of the UK this morning.
The former Prince Andrew, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, has this morning been arrested on the Sandringham estate where he was living after having been removed, of course, from the home he was living in Windsor.
The Thames Valley Police, the police here in the UK, put out a statement.
They haven't named him specifically, but they are saying a man in his 60s has been arrested.
As part of the investigation, they say we have today arrested a man in his 60s from Norfolk on suspicion of misconduct in public office and are carrying out searches at addresses in Berkshire and Norfolk.
They say the man remains in police custody at this time.
They are not, like I say, naming Andrew, but we know that it is him.
This pertains to emails, we believe, that were published recently in the most recent Epstein files published by the Department of Justice, which seem to suggest they allege that Andrew was forwarding emails to Jeffrey Epstein whilst he was trade envoy here in the UK.
Now, as a public official, that is misconduct.
That is what the police are alleging.
That's the charges that they presumably are bringing to him if they do indeed charge him.
He is under arrest and remains in custody for that.
We will wait and see what further details they are yet to give us.
But, you know, as trade envoy, he spent more than 10 years traveling around the world on behalf of the British government to kind of foment relationships with other countries to better Britain's kind of economic outlook, if you like.
I mean, I just wanted to talk about that for a second because a lot of the time, these, you know, these European countries, they still really have a monarchy, but it's hidden away.
Right.
You look like an unelected EU commission, for example.
A lot of them are like royalty or royalty descendant.
That was seen as a member of the royal family could do this.
Uh, you know, this his status would provide Britain with that kind of heft on the world stage.
But the emails from the Department of Justice suggest that when he was in these conversations in places like Singapore, Hong Kong, I've got a list here in front of me of other countries that he went to.
He would then have these kind of confidential documents in these emails, and then it looks like he was forwarding them on to Jeffrey Epstein, another one here from Vietnam, another from China.
So, um, if you look at the date, Jeffrey Epstein, another one.
You know, he does, yeah, here from Vietnam, another from China.
So, um, if you look at the date on some of these emails as well, that is what is interesting.
Uh, one of them here in front of me, uh, from 2010, of course, that's well after Jeffrey Epstein had already faced uh charges for soliciting sex from a minor.
Um, scrolls broken, but yeah, he's said to be the queen's favorite son, but Prince Andrew is no stranger to controversy.
He was dubbed the party prince in the 80s as he wined and dined a string of models and actors, actresses.
Uh-oh.
And later, Air Miles Andy, as he jet-set it across the world in style.
Now, the British tabloids have crowned him pariah prince as charities and businesses abandoned the royal over his ties to convicted SA offender Jeffrey Epstein.
The uncomplicated, boisterous Andrew is said to be the queen's favorite son.
Prince Charles has reportedly described him as like a fizzy drink that has been shaken up in the top taken off.
That's not what the king sounds like.
That's like Billy Butcher from The Boys or something.
Andrew joined the Royal Navy and served as a helicopter pilot in the Falklands War, but his role was to fly helicopter as a decoy target to devote missiles away from British ships.
They're like, we're trying to kill this guy.
He keeps killing like little animals, small animals around Buckingham Palace.
We got to send him in the decoy plane to get shot down.
Okay.
I wouldn't agree to that job, to be honest with you.
But at the end of the day, it's like the biggest culprit of them all, who we kind of touched upon last time, which is super ironic because we were talking about this on Sunday, and it's just amazing to see full circle moment that he got prosecuted.
Well, he got called on, not prosecuted.
There's a difference.
He got called on by Congress to basically testify in front of a bunch of people.
Right.
So let's get into that because this is the stuff that's important.
Because this man gave Epstein power of attorney and had all of his money funneling towards all the different things.
I mean, he was saying a lot of stuff that pissed me off in the hearing.
I tried to watch as much, but it was like four hours.
I thought it was Lex revealing that Jeffrey Epstein claimed he was a financial advisor to L D Rothschild and the Rothschild family in France.
Wexner said he personally verified it.
Well, specifically, I talked to L. D. Rothschild.
I mentioned that earlier.
So he represented their whole family.
Wexner also describes Epstein boasting that he advised Google's founders, Google's chief technologist, and Jeff Bezos, but admits he never confirmed that.
Beyond LA, documents show Epstein helped facilitate a $45 million DOJ settlement included or involving Day Rothschild and the Edmund Day Rothschild Swiss private bank.
How deep were Epstein's financial ties to the Rothschild family?
I think it was his experience at an industrial level, like working for a big company like Bear Spurns, and then he had done personal work for the Rothschild family in France.
Yeah, I think that touches to a big problem with our legal system, right?
Is there's no recourse against you know the government or against you know one of these big people that might as well be a small country themselves.
Yeah, man, but like he might as well be the country of Madagascar, you know, like he's probably got the same amount of pull and influence that the country of Madagascar does.
I mean, when you literally have uh Victoria's Secret, Bath and Body Works, like, I mean, dude, women shop like crazy, and these are like very high-grossing uh companies, yeah.
You think Jeffrey Epstein is someone that you all you cannot be associated with for any reason because he's so bad, but he's also just a school teacher who had sex with a 17-year-old one time.
And they want you to hold these two beliefs together.
And it's just like, so he's not important.
Well, like, why do all these massively important people like like terrified to talk about him?
I mean, you could say he's old and 88, but it's very hard to have a collective string of thought where you're actually saying the right words and you're thinking.
All that is him thinking because it's very hard when you're lying to have a chain of thought.
Breaking Les Wexner appeared stunned when questioned about the 1.3 billion in L Brand stock Jeffrey Epstein allegedly sold in the hundreds of millions Epstein is accused of stealing.
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And although Epstein stole or otherwise misappropriated several hundred we're going to go ahead and watch the clip now.
Epstein stole or otherwise misappropriated several hundred million dollars from Wexner.
That misconduct, together with the fees that Epstein paid himself for his services to Wexner, appears to account for virtually all of Epstein's wealth.
So several hundred million dollars is a large but not precise figure to the best of your knowledge.
Trustee of would receive gifts of limited stock, and he would then sell that stock on the New York Stock Exchange and then use a portion of those proceeds for his own personal purposes.
Do you have any knowledge or recollection of what I just described?
And then separately, it's been reported that around $20 million of stock and cash were contributed by two of your charitable foundations to one of Epstein's charities.
So glyphosate is this pesticide that's used a lot in like the drying out of wheat and other stuff like this.
It's universally recognized as being incredibly carcinogenic and incredibly toxic to humans and to everything, really.
Basically, what it does is there's the amino acid glycine, which is responsible for like one-third of all collagen synthesis.
Like it's an essential building block in the process.
It and glyphosate are very similar to each other.
So glyphosate over time can replace itself or can replace that with itself in tissue, and then that can lead to cancer.
So Trump just signed an executive order giving immunity to companies like Monsanto that use it.
He just gave immunity to Monsanto.
Companies that are making some of the worst chemicals imaginable, glyphosate and phosphorus, causing the nastiest forms of cancer and actively poisoning the American people through our food supply.
The Republican House Farm Bill actually makes it illegal for local governments and countries or counties to warn about the obvious dangers of pesticide.
They're not required to put warning labels on things.
This is just a big thing here, but we got the White House.
Yeah, they're proud of it because this is part of Maha and winning, if you'll understand.
The new Republican House Farm Bill quietly advances pesticide immunity for harm for companies.
The provision blocks states and local governments from requiring any warnings beyond what the EPA approves, shielding companies from liability.
The provision stops cities and counties from enforcing their own pesticide rules, giving all regulatory power to state and federal authorities.
This amendment declares that using pesticides exactly as EPA approves automatically legal and overrides any other environmental protections might require permits.
Well, so is it like these people probably either, A, they're like, well, we can get access to the healthiest food possible, or they just eat it and they're like, I don't care.
Like, this literally is affecting them themselves.
Well, you know, the it's a problem because you have um, all the road croppers are dependent on it right now.
And there's other technology that is uh that is emerging right now.
That actually, you know, I looked at one yesterday.
It's a tractor attachment that uses lasers to kill weeds.
And that, you know, if they can make that affordable, particularly for smaller farmers, that will be the answer because you'll be able to, they can kill bugs and they can kill weeds.
You program this thing and it zaps the weeds with a laser.
It makes it all the cells explode and it just makes all the cells explode.
I was so excited when I saw him get appointed to all the things that he ran out.
I was like, finally, somebody fighting so that I don't have to guess what's healthy or not, or to a certain extent, at least mitigate some of the bores.
And then we've got the president and these guys up there smiling, pushing Ozempic, which is literally a diabetic medicine, which actually is not good for you.
And these forever chemicals, these things that they use.
I remember in environmental science in high school learning about like the foundation of these chemicals and things they used like the 60s and the 70s.
Unbelievable.
And the same stuff is going on today.
Roundup, the most widely used herbicide in America, contains glyphosate.
Glyphosate exposure has been linked to all kinds of diseases, including non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
Sorry, my nose is completely blocked.
95% of our corn and much of our wheat is routinely sprayed with Roundup, which contains glyphosate.
This is something that every American should be concerned about.
And we got another Kennedy clip, but we don't need to play it.
But these are, there are, there's a whole range of diseases that are now, you know, the different levels of science have linked to glyphosate exposure.
When we sued Monsanto, the judge needs to make a threshold decision about whether there's sufficient science to show a jury.
And that is a very high threshold.
So of all of the diseases that are probably caused, probably almost certainly caused by glyphosate, the only one to pass that threshold was the case that we bought for Hodgkin's lymphoma.
So at that point, we had enough rat studies, enough human studies.
We had about 10 of each.
And we were able to go to the judge and say this, we got enough.
I'm not in the FDA, but we are heavily regulated in the industry that I actually work in in the FDA.
And they're not there every single day checking on your processes to make sure that you're doing all the right things.
It's more so they catch it.
They give you the initial approval.
They say, all right, you're good to go.
Go ahead and produce this thing.
And then it could be a while before the FDA starts like actually doing any types of audits.
And normally the audit only comes after the fact of when something major happens or something significant.
Recall.
Yeah, if there was a giant recall or people just started dying all of a sudden.
But the problem with food and these things like cancer is very hard to trace what it is.
Like there's so many things that we're exposed to on a day-to-day basis.
There's no way you can directly link this exactly to that and say, all right, well, it's the popcorn that's like giving you the cancer versus the Red Bull that the person's consuming and the things that are in there.
So then they don't get audited for those types of things.
It's just the perfect situation as to where like everyone kind of has a societal consciousness of like, hey, we know these things were bad for us, but what are we going to do?
Trump wrote on True Social that based on the tremendous interest shown, I can't talk today.
I'm so sorry, guys.
He would be directing Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and the other relevant agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to alien extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomena, and unidentified flying objects and any and all information connected to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important matters.
So nothing burger, complete distraction, Iran war in a few days.
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