Simon Dixon, CEO of BNK to the Future, reveals how $2.5B in fintech investments—including Coinbase and Kraken—exposed a corrupt system where fractional reserve banking and insider trading strip wealth from individuals while centralizing power under transnational capital like BlackRock. His early Bitcoin purchase at $3 in 2011 and later ventures into corporate finance, tied to conflicts like Gaza, underscore the necessity of self-custody over manipulated assets, warning that media narratives and debt-based Ponzi schemes are tools to control populations. The hosts credit audience-driven growth for their evolving insights, urging long-term investing in Bitcoin over gambling-like trading, while planning deeper dives into geopolitics and financial independence. [Automatically generated summary]
My co-host, Tim Tompkins, will be joining me shortly.
We've got a really exciting interview for you guys today at 4:30 Central Time.
Simon Dixon will be joining us to talk all things Bitcoin, precious metals, geopolitics, global economy, how it all factors and fits in together.
I actually just saw that he released an interview with Suleiman, friend of the show.
So he's been very active as of late.
We're very interested and excited to hear what he has to say and to ask him very important questions that'll benefit our audience.
So I know we've done a lot of topical political stuff recently, and that's fun and that's important, and that's cool.
We like talking to different pundits and different people with political opinions.
It's going to be very cool to talk to people that can actually provide us material insight into how the world really functions in these really big global systems like finance, like money, like Bitcoin, crypto, precious metals, fiat currency, whatever you want to say.
But before my co-host gets here, and maybe, you know, maybe a little bit into when he gets here, I had a couple kind of slop, kind of legitimate stories I wanted to go over and have fun with you guys looking at.
So I've been attacking a few people on X. Attack is a strong word, you know, maybe like prod or poke.
But I've been, you know, talking about Bongino and talking about Tim Poole and talking about Megan Kelly.
So I wanted to go ahead and get into that with y'all now.
Can we go ahead and pull up that first Bongino tweet?
It's my reaction to it.
Awesome.
So I got, thank you.
So Dan Bongino comes out here and he's doing all this fear-mongering stuff about, oh, you know, they got the networks to steal the kids and take the kids and get the kids to hurt themselves online and this, that, and the other thing.
And like, that's serious.
That's legitimate.
That's real.
I'm not denying that that exists, but it's kind of hilarious to hear from the guy that actually had the power to arrest the people and to quote unquote do the job and to quote unquote save the children.
Now he's back in media telling the media people that their opinion is worthless because of their media.
And my analogy for it was the idea of Bongino doing a show is a lot like if a firefighter burned down a bunch of houses he was supposed to save and then went on a fire prevention tour.
Like that's as simple as I can put it.
This guy comes out here.
He counter signals to us.
He sheepdogs us back into supporting the administration.
And the logic for it is literally, I'm a tough guy.
And I was in the, you know, I was in the thing and I was in the administration.
I know things that you, you don't know.
And then in the interview, which we may react to in full later or just the show that he does, in his show, he goes on and say, like, there are things I can't talk about.
There are things I can't say.
Okay, well, why are you doing the media job then?
It makes absolutely zero sense for you to be in a profession where you can't even talk.
But that's okay.
That's Mr. Bongino.
Let's go ahead and go to Dan Bongino Addresses the Haters.
And we'll go ahead and play that clip.
I mean, and it really like, it looks like he's on meth or something.
And like, I'm not saying he is.
Of course, I'm not making that claim about anybody.
He just, he looks really bad.
And like anyone that can't see it, you know, it's kind of more a metaphysical thing than anything.
Like, it makes you realize about the country, like the general intelligence of people, especially the older people, because I guarantee it's all like over 55 plus that are watching his show.
He, he has a tough guy image, like, you know, like Luca Brazzi and the Godfather or something, right?
Like he's, he's an actor or a media professional that had a past career in something that gives him legitimacy.
Like Luca Brazzi, he was a member of the actual mob, the guy that played that guy in The Godfather.
So Dan Bongino, being a member of the deep state mob, is now coming back into a media role to lend it legitimacy somehow.
And the way he gets people hyped is he goes, we're so fucking back.
To all the liberals, to all the progressives, to all the commies, to all the people who called us fascists and Nazis and racists and deplorables and garbage and garbage bags and smellies and rednecks and hayseeds and flyover countries.
We could have had a nice country where Democrats and Republicans love the country.
We agree that the country's wonderful.
We agree we got to defend it.
And maybe the Democrats think, okay, we should maybe hike a few more taxes and do this.
And maybe that's not what happened.
We now have one party that's like, you people are garbage.
You're scum.
You're serial Nazi murderers.
You're savage animal garbage bag people.
You all suck.
And you know what happened?
The garbage people, deplorable hayseed, redneck, fascist, Nazi, whatever you called us.
You know what I call those people?
I call them patriots and heroes.
They collectively gave the biggest double-barreled middle finger ever to the establishment swamp class trying to lord over us and said, we're not kneeling today.
You're the one now.
You're the one who's going to have to look in the mirror and say, man, we really fucked up.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are so fucking back, man.
We are back.
We are so back to all the haters, to all the liberals, to all the progressives, to all the commies, to all the people who called us fascists and Nazis and racists and deplorables and garbage and garbage bags and smellies and rednecks and hayseeds and flyover countries.
Well, Mr. President, I want to thank you for the opportunity.
The past year has been absolutely incredible.
And given that you're a results guy, having we obviously we were friends before, but working for you is a completely different experience.
You were a results guy.
You're a spreadsheets guy.
How would you get to a net present value positive with what you're doing?
And I'll never forget an Oval Office meeting we had in light of the DC crime numbers that hadn't had a homicide in a record amount of time in DC.
Thanks to your leadership.
We're sitting in the Oval Office and I was talking to you about the homicide rate plunging.
And it was only about three months into my term there.
I said, Mr. President, what we're doing down in Memphis and elsewhere is working.
And I'll never forget.
I said, we're doing the broken windows, Rudy Giuliani style policing.
You looked at me and you said, hey, how do we take this nationwide?
And you never ever let go.
You stayed on top of it with me and cash.
You were all over it.
You're such a hands-on guy.
And it was just so refreshing to work for someone who doesn't get into all the hype and all the nonsense, but cares about so none of this shit matters at all.
And it's like, my job is to get in there and to see the bad stuff you don't want to deal with because you're just people throwing popcorn into the arena.
There's a phenomenal clip, and I didn't include it in the show folder for today, but it's of Bongino and it's him addressing like the haters, the black pillars, or whatever.
And he's like, your guys throwing popcorn and there are two guys in the ring sparring and going at it.
It's like, yeah, they're sparring.
They're fake fighting each other.
Right.
And like the truth is right there in his statement.
And his argument, Tim, what he likes to say on the show now, or what he's begun to say on the show, is that people in media don't have the right to Chris, you know, the people that really do the hard work out there.
You don't have the right to criticize them.
And it's like, so if you hire someone to do a job, which is essentially what we're doing, yeah, by getting these people appointed to a job because someone that we voted for puts them in that position, like what happened with Trump and Dan Mongino, and they don't do the job, it's you're not allowed to criticize them because you yourself are not actively doing the work.
Like right now, like technically, you know, I wouldn't, Fuentes is not the best example, but like, let's say, like, Fuentes, I see, as a guy who's on the fringe who's like, I don't give a fuck.
But like, Funtes still has people that he cares about.
And like, I think, you know, anyone, including him, could get pressured.
Maybe you have to take the guy who has zero family, zero friends, doesn't care about anything.
And then maybe, but I still think that guy ends up like disappearing into oblivion at some point.
And they have infinite amount of ways to say that.
And I saw Kurt Metzger make this point as of like, this is the real test for society.
Like if we accept this and accept it, like, ah, it is what it is.
We're never really going to know.
That's when like the next stage of things begin.
And I would agree with that because ultimately, if we can have the same people in government, like a decade from now, roughly the same people in government, the ones that are still youngish and alive, but we're also implicated in these things.
If they're still around, like this, it's over.
Right.
And that's why I think it's so important, Tim, to hammer the Epstein issue.
It's like, this is not okay.
It's not okay to be the deputy FBI director to leave because you can't do the job.
And then to not only say, not only not say, like, I had to leave because I couldn't do the job, to say, I did a phenomenal job.
The job is great.
The people of the administration are doing an incredible job.
Well, it's so crazy because it's literally like telling someone when you're like 14, like, I'm going to go to the moon and be an astronaut.
And you're like, no, you're not.
You're not going to go to the moon and be an astronaut.
And then like, he has a career in the secret service.
He has a career in like private contracting.
He literally protected Obama.
You know, and then he goes on the political circuit for like a decade plus and starts a media career.
And he literally gets the job.
And that's what's so crazy about the whole Trump administration is because like if you just went off a universe where Donald Trump did the stuff that he promised to do, we'd all love him.
There's a lot of angles to it, but ultimately it represents the cream of the crop slop, even more than someone like Jesse Waters, like doing war promo for the Venezuela invasion, like we talked about.
This, this is true, like manufacturing consent with people.
Like, like you can still trust the system.
The system is good.
The system is safe.
See, the guy you liked who is in the system, he left the system just so he could come back to you.
But Trump comes on and he's like, everything is the most incredible.
It's the most amazing thing.
Before, you know, I was mad when you left and I didn't want you to leave.
I wanted you to stay so I could grape you more.
But you ran away from me, ran that tight little butt away from me.
You took it out of DC and you're doing a bad guest now.
So I can still see you in the video.
I mean, I just like to have your career destroyed in this way by the person that you work for and then to have the person that you used to work for still work for, he still works for Trump come on your show.
And people will have to catch the replay or, and I'm not expecting it to be like a massive audience compared to what we did because other people are alive right now, Harrison included.
I'm on Suleiman Spaces, just like listening to him.
And he's just like, he's got a wealth of knowledge.
And, you know, we have various guests on here, but like he's the first guest, I would say that like is like he's deep into the financial well he, he's a.
I mean, his company has raised like 2.5 billion in investments.
Like, he's a, he's a big deal, and I'm just grateful that he he's gonna take the time to even come on the show today, but we pull the intro sheet up so I can be ready for it.
Uh, kind of yeah philanthropist, but I would more call him an uh, an investor and and like angel investor at the same time.
Right, you know, like he just has a lot of um, he has a lot of things.
He's been around dude, he's one of the first guys that's like that knew bitcoin was gonna be bitcoin before everybody rode the wave.
Like people would have probably called him crazy back when he started um and and you're gonna hear all the things that he's gonna talk about about his experience and um.
You know, if there's any questions that you guys have put them in the chat now, i'll try to remember.
I know Nimrod said something about a question about silver.
I am gonna ask him about silver.
That is on my list um, but really today is about learning about like, the real truth behind the financial systems, more than what we just report on, you know, because not everybody's gonna be as well versed as Simon here.
We need the soundboard working, so I go, but you know, it's kind of it's like the, that's like the equivalent.
It's not as bad as.
Remember that guy who um had his like local bitcoin wallet or something and he lost it and it was like worth billions of bitcoin and he spent years, quite literally years, digging in like uh landfills just searching for these like uh physical, like hard drives which would have had his wallet which had like billions of dollars worth of bitcoin.
Because we want this to at least, I know sometimes, dude, I swear there's a lot of people that have told us that they're not getting notifications when we go live.
But like, honestly, when you guys are posting your commenting in the chat section, it helps the algorithm recognize that we're live and get those notifications to people who haven't gotten them yet.
And the other part of making that work is elevating the graphics, elevating the show, getting a producer, making the shorts, making the channels, doing all the technical stuff.
And just to remind you guys, we're about to be joined by Simon Dixon here in about 10-15 minutes to talk all things global finance and monetary systems.
Connecting from news for years and then coming back into the geopolitical situation, really, just like one or two years ago is when I decided to consciously start paying attention again.
I've been kind of shocked and dismayed at what we've seen across the globe.
And domestically here in America, we don't get the real news.
We are the most propagandized people in the world.
We are fed whatever our politicians want to feed us to get elected in that next election cycle.
And that's what the gray area, that's what this show is all about.
And all the time that we spent having conversations on camera, off-camera.
Dude, sometimes you guys don't understand.
It's like almost like we have like radio frequency happening where like I know what he's about to say and think, and then he knows what I'm about to say and think.
But we're getting there to where we're not just Sympatico, we're Sympatica with Andrew.
And that's what it's really going to take to elevate the show to the next level because we don't even have to worry about like whether the guest integration is going to work, whether the live stream integration is going to work, whether we got to pull up XYZ.
It's such a big deal now, and it seems like such a simple thing to take the keyboard and mouse out of it.
And by them investing in us, we're going to be investing in them.
And it's just like, we really, I don't think you guys understand.
This is that I eat, sleep, and breathe this show.
I kid you not, guys.
I'm thinking about the show when I'm off camera, when I wake up, before I go to sleep, I'm thinking of everything that needs to happen in order for this show to grow like it needs to, but also in the right way.
Like, I just, I love every single one of you guys that tunes in, even the 130 people that we especially the 130.
We go ahead and get that introduction up and I'll go ahead and give a little background.
I'll read it again.
I'll give kind of an overview on who our guest is.
We're going to be joined by Simon Dixon.
Simon Dixon, he holds numerous degrees from Kingston's University and the University of Manchester.
He had a career in traditional finance and as an investment banker.
And he's now a CEO of BNK to the Future.
That's a regulated investment platform that's facilitated over 2.5 billion.
That's billion with the B, folks, a billion dollars in investments across 100 plus financial tech and blockchain companies, including early stakes in Coinbase, Kraken, and Bitfinex.
Yeah, After leaving traditional finance in 2006, ahead of the 2008 crisis, his personal experiences with financial instability, including a dot-com crash, eroded his father's pension and pushed Simon towards monetary reform and Bitcoin advocacy.
So he's someone that not only supports Bitcoin from, you know, like a it works perspective, he supports it from the moral perspective of like, he sees this as the right way to go for the he was one of those people that like was giving speeches about Bitcoin when Bitcoin wasn't cool.
And people would be like, why are you having this like lecture here where you're telling us about something like crypto and the world didn't understand it?
Right.
That's honestly how a lot of technology works, right?
The people who get in early are rewarded, but it's also hard to stick with being one of those early people if you don't know it's going to work out.
You know, there's a, there's a cost that goes along with it.
But, you know, Bitcoin, now you can't even go without having a conversation about finance in the world without mentioning Bitcoin as a prominent asset.
And, you know, we'll also talk to him because I know he's knowledgeable about precious metals and it's been very interesting because silver was at like 117.
I used to be a very active trader for probably like four or five years.
And I was like looking at charts, looking at, you know, all the things and the variables, the line graphs, stochastic, RSI, like everything you could possibly think of.
Well, you know, he was making very basic points, but Bannon was like, why did it happen?
Why did the 2008 financial crisis happen?
And Epstein's like, look, you can't compare the economy to like a machine or a car because ultimately if a part of the car breaks, you can just go replace it and fix it.
And the economy is much more like a human body in the way that you can't necessarily fix the system if one part of it breaks.
And he pinned the financial crisis on Bill Clinton creating Fannie Mae and allowing people with bad credit to buy homes.
So he came at it from the elitist perspective, like, hey, like we were grifting and it was fine for us to grift.
I think the biggest thing was, and it's, it's been widely reported.
And I've, maybe I should do a deep dive on this to give you guys more context.
But the main thing that broke the straw, the camel's back was the risky bets and people buying a bunch of securities because that was the hot commodity of people buying things.
And the problem was, to your point of what you said, was they were giving loans for pretty much anything.
Strippers had like four houses.
Right.
You could, at that time, guys, you could get zero percent down and but like on a variable rate.
Right.
And that is like unheard of today.
Like now it's like you get a fixed rate.
You're not, you're not paying any less than three to five percent, even if you get what's called an FHA loan.
And the problem with variable rates is once things are good, they're great.
But imagine when the Fed has to raise their rates and then all of a sudden everything, your interest goes from 0% now up to 7% and your mortgage on four different houses balloons.
You can't afford it.
So that is one of the main reasons is the risky lending.
And a lot of people got the people who own the assets of that stripper who had all those houses, they were bundled in to these mortgage-backed securities in which you had them saying, hey, this is grade A.
This is an amazing bundle.
You should buy it as an investor.
And people believed it.
But then it was only stuff with a good amount of like good people at the top.
And it was a bunch of strippers at the bottom and a bunch of other people that didn't actually have good credit.
And when these people fall, the house of cards falls.
And that's ultimately why the little guy gets squeezed and the big guy's able to profit because even someone like Trump, who's in billions and billions of dollars in debt, all he has to do is declare bankruptcy and kind of restructure his assets and he'll be all right.
I think the thing is, is like, it's easy for me to make that point.
But then I also think about the fact that they incentivize, that's how they incentivize you to actually go and build a business that actually helps society or go buy a house that brings housing for people.
So that way the person who may not be able to afford it can actually afford rent.
So like it's almost like a give and take.
There's just certain things in there that like, you know, on the billionaire scale and the write-offs that they get, some of that stuff makes zero sense.
And they've already got enough.
So I'm like, wait, why, why do we need this rule in here for that particular circumstance?
Ray Dahlia was talking about this at an economic forum that they do, and he went through all the years and years, 500 years worth of history to understand these cycles.
And he was like, Look, in my conclusion of all this research that I've done, all of this is predictive.
And we're at this point in this cycle, and it's going to end up here.
Like volcanic soil is like the most rich soil on earth, and it's where all the best plants grow and the exotic flowers and all of that.
But for that to happen, you know, every 100, 200 years or whatever, the volcano has to explode and kill all the vegetation and all the animals and all those minerals have to go into the ground.
And then there's new life.
It's that boom and bust cycle.
And that's ultimately, that is the socialist or communist critique of capitalism, right?
You know, anybody who's pulled their money out of the market when it was at like the bottom or like dropping, you know, they end up regretting it because then it goes back up and it goes past that.
Yeah, see, now it makes, did they do a, I'm wondering if they did a stock split.
It says $24 right now.
Right.
But I don't take that at value because companies will create a stock split in which the stock is like broken down to where the price looks lower for people to buy in.
Sorry, I'm getting into the weeds here, but I'm just very curious.
But in general, the things that I'm really going to, what we're going to really focus on here when he comes on is like, it's going to be more financial world banking, those types of things.
And it's also, we talked about it, the people that are locked into the really low interest rate, even if they would want to move or go somewhere else or upgrade or do whatever.
They're like, ah, the 2% is pretty chill.
I'm going to stay where I'm at.
And then it's also the old people owning a lot of the housing as well.
And, you know, not enough people watched that video of ours and they got to see that Nick Shirley put out something out there for like clickbait purposes.
Simon holds degrees from Kingston University and a master's in economics from the University of Manchester.
He began his career in traditional finance as an investment banker at firms like ABC Fuel Hunt and later as a market maker on the London Stock Exchange.
He is now the CEO of BNK to the Future, a regulated investment platform that has facilitated over 2.5 billion in investments across 100 plus financial tech and blockchain companies, including early stakes in Coinbase, Kraken, and Bitfinex.
Very big deal.
After leaving traditional finance in 2006, ahead of the 2008 crisis, personal experiences with financial instability, including the dot-com crash, eroding his father's pension, pushed Simon towards monetary reform and Bitcoin advocacy.
I mean, look, I spent 25 years of my life following money.
It's all I do, whether it's working in the swamp and investment banking, managed to escape it, whether it's building businesses, selling businesses, and investing.
And now I'm just trying to exit the whole damn thing.
The whole thing is one ginormous, corrupt mess.
And I think we're all the whole world is experiencing the evils that exist behind their money right now.
So I guess for me, it started really 25 years ago when my father, it was the dot-com boom and bust 2000.
And my father was born in 1933.
So he lived through the Great Depression, World War II, was sat under tables in a little town called Bristol while England was being bombed and was the son of a bus driver with the seventh son of the seventh son.
So a bus driver salary was meant to able to support seven people back in the day during World War II.
But then after World War II, we entered into this dollar standard that was outlined by Bretton Woods.
Yes.
And he kind of made himself, he got to a million pounds from nothing by hustling.
And for him, that was like the ultimate achievement.
And he ended up putting it all in the stock market.
And while right in the middle of his retirement, he got on the wrong side of the dot-com boom and bust and just lost it all.
And so he saw everything he worked for his whole life, you know, just disappear.
And one day it was, he asked me, son, like, where's my money?
What happened to the money?
Who's got the money?
I had the money and now it's gone.
And he had no idea what happened.
So ever since then, I kind of, you know, tried to learn by going to college.
So I did up to a master's in economics and realized they don't teach you how money works or where the money went.
You know, you mathematically prove a pile of stuff based upon incorrect assumptions.
And then you realize you've been indoctrinated into working for a central banker and not figuring out how the system actually works.
So it's like a sausage factory to try and get you in the bank.
And so after that, I started my career as, you know, I didn't go to the right university, so I didn't get into the investment banks right away.
But I managed to get a job.
The institution that my father lost all his money in was a stockbrokerage called TD Waterhouse.
And because I lived in Manchester at the time, I noticed that TD Waterhouse was based in Manchester in England.
So I knocked on the door and they gave me a job as a T-boy.
And so I wanted to find out from the inside what happened to my father's money.
And so I started working as a T-boy.
And after a while, they promoted me to become a junior stockbroker.
And then once I was a stockbroker, I realized that, right, we're just glorified salespeople like selling stocks, you know, like the wolf of Wall Street kind of thing.
And I started to understand how a little bit of these compromise networks go, like we're seeing with Jeffrey Epstein, you know, your men are go out and your men are, you know, the higher you want to go, the more compromised you have to start being, the more degenerate you have to go.
And so I managed to get myself a job as a market maker in the city of London.
Yeah, right in the financial capital, you know, and figured out how stocks really move.
And, you know, would take the call from Goldman Sachs.
Goldman Sachs would place the order and then the media would cover the story, get everyone on the wrong side of the trade.
You, as a market maker, would manipulate the price of those stocks and shares and everyone's on the wrong side of the real money that's moving the market.
And so after doing that for a few years, I wanted to find out what they call the other side of the Chinese wall.
So in investment banks, you have like the people moving markets and then you have the people doing the deals.
And so I worked in, I switched over to corporate finance, which is where you're doing all this M ⁇ A activity and you're putting together deals and you're trying to make people public, you know, make companies public, sorry.
And got a bit of experience around how, you know, all deals are understood, massive insider trading, and really how deals are constructed.
You know, when you're looking at these war zones at the moment, you know, an investment banker just sees that as an opportunity to pitch.
Let's, you know, take that country out like what you're seeing in Gaza, take it all down and rebuild better.
And if we're going to make 10x the returns off the rebuild, you know, we've got to make sure that the military companies have a new war zone to go to.
So kind of learned like the ruthless brutality behind these investment concepts and investment banking.
And after a while, you know, you're working 100 hours a week.
And I tried to figure out still how money works on the other side of it.
So I had to learn economics from scratch by reading books like Michael Raubotham, The Grip of Death.
And then I stumbled upon a documentary that was considered a conspiracy theory at the time by Bill Steele called The Money Masters.
And this is when I was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense how money works.
And decided that I'm just going to throw in the corporate towel.
This is 2006 now.
And this is right before the financial crisis.
And I decided that I would go across a bunch of colleges and universities where they were really the sausage factory for building the investment bankers and the central bankers.
And I would teach him how banking works.
And I got across this roadshow.
I went to London School of Economics, Birkbeck University, University College of London, went across to Chicago, did 200 different universities in a year to teach the students how money actually works and how this whole thing, the monetary system works.
And, you know, you'd get very few people, but then suddenly the whole system blew up.
In 2007, you get the subprime crisis.
And my lectures were suddenly attended by like 300 people, 400 people, 500 people that really wanted to figure out how the system works.
And I was still very ignorant at the time, thinking that I could change the system.
And so I started turning my attention to politics.
And I presented, you know, at the, there was like Sir John Vickers was doing the Commission on Banking on what went wrong.
It turned out that they weren't going to fix anything.
Presented at House of Parliament, House of Lords, various other things.
Met Boris Johnson, like all these different politicians, and thought that I could persuade the Senate Banking Committee in order to recognize how scammy banking is and maybe reform it.
After a while, I realized nothing's going to change here.
The very same people that own the governments are the same banks that set the policy.
So the whole government's co-opted into this system.
So then I decided what else can I do?
So I tried to create my own bank.
And so I took all of our savings and I managed to recruit a team.
And it was, we put together a team of people that built the only bank that had launched in 100 years.
And then, and then I need you to rebuild this technology on top of Barclay's Bank or one of the other clearing banks.
And you can have it where you have full reserves, but they're going to have the deposit and they'll do fractional reserves.
And so they said, so you've got to assume the cost, use their technology, put 60 million at the Bank of England and give all your money to them to re-hypothecate and just build a Ponzi scheme on top of their Ponzi scheme.
And so, you know, after a little bit more of that, I realized it's impossible to create a bank.
And there was a problem.
I burst through all my savings at this time, you know, and I was completely broke.
And I had a mortgage to pay.
I was in the debt cycle.
At the time, it was a really big number for me, but I was about 250,000 pound in debt.
And so I tried to find some venture capitalists.
And when I would pitch the business to some venture capitalists, they'd say, Yeah, sure, but we need you to change the model.
We want you to build a fractional reserve bank and we want you to do it this way.
And so then I realized, oh, right.
So when you get the funding for your business, you work for the venture capitalist.
And now everything's about working on their mission and their vision.
And so I realized, wow, finance is actually just a mechanism for control.
Right.
And so all of these different lessons kind of come into what we'll probably talk about.
Yeah, you can always tell when you talk to people you had a question for him, right?
Yeah, you know, I don't want to deviate too far because you, that's like the perfect intro.
That's probably the best intro a guest has ever given to the first question.
But obviously, you understand the dollar very, very well.
And being someone that's from the UK, when you look at America and you look at our system, how much longer do we have left, do you think?
And I know that, I know that's kind of a broad question, but there's kind of this feeling that people have here, especially younger people, I'd say people under the age of like 45, where you can kind of feel a scratching on the wall of reality.
Yeah.
And there's kind of two schools of thought.
People are like, oh, things are going to gradually get worse.
And it is what it is.
And that's just how it's going to be for the next decade plus.
What you're witnessing in America right now is kind of what happened to England before World War I. There was a monetary reordering.
There was a slow transition.
The government was completely bankrupted.
And then they managed the transition to the next world order, which was the Federal Reserve System.
That required World War I, a Great Depression, and World War II to get through.
And then at the end of it, all of the gold ended up in America in Fort Knox.
All the gold from Russia, you know, through the Bolshevik revolution ended up in Fort Knox or a chunk of it.
All the Nazi Germany gold, and then they created the CIA with the Jewish mob and the Italian mafia.
Then you had, you know, all of the British Empire mercantile colonialism that was restructured into the Federal Reserve.
And then through the wars, 75% of the world's gold made ended up in building the military industrial complex and the Bretton Woods system.
So you're at that stage.
Right now, the financial industrial complex is what I call it.
They are managing a asset-stripping exercise of leaving all the debt on the people and taking all the assets over to the stock market.
And so, what Trump administration is doing right now is rolling over the debt at an ever faster rate in order to pump all of that money via the big beautiful bill and debt ceilings into the US stock market.
And in a K-shaped economy where there's only two types of people, those deep in debt and those that own the assets.
And the number of people that own the assets is getting smaller and smaller tighter group.
So 95% of the stock market is owned by 10% of Americans.
And $65 trillion is owned by foreign investors.
Now, they've bought the government, the Senate, and the Congress.
And so the financial industrial complex is the major lobby.
And so all of the politicians now need to pitch to their bankers on give me money to be a politician.
And they prostituted at every debt ceiling in order to corruptly allocate the money.
And then they're thinking about what do we do with the American people?
Well, we build a police and surveillance state.
So that's why the Trump administration has introduced, headed up by Peter Thill, Elon Musk, and David Sachs, the technical industrial complex that is going to integrate stable coins into, you know, by into social credit scores and palantir surveillance technologies.
And so what the bit, like every time Hitler would invade a new country, he would essentially call up the Reisbank.
The Reisbank will call up the Bank for International Settlements and say, hey, you know, that gold that had like the Czechoslovakia label on it?
Can you call up the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England and put a new sticker on it and call it Germany's?
And so then you had a scenario where essentially the British government was claiming that they were fighting Nazism while the Bank of England was storing the gold and funding the Nazi regime.
And, you know, that really, really explains everything.
While simultaneously propping up the Soviet Union in Russia and creating fake capitalism in America with the Federal Reserve System, which was a debt-based Ponzi scheme, if you haven't figured out, the dollar is debt.
So when people talk about we've got to pay down the debt, what you're asking for is to eliminate all dollars.
And if you eliminate all dollars, you get the Great Depression again.
And so the debt can't be repaid because the Federal Reserve System means that the shareholders of the Federal Reserve, which is the private banks, they get to create dollars, but they don't just get to create dollars willy-nilly.
They have to persuade someone to borrow those dollars.
And so if you come to the bank and you say, I'd like a mortgage to buy this real estate, they then say, great.
And so they deposit the dollars, which is a digital currency into your bank account.
But they say, we'll own the real estate.
And as long as you pay the interest, then at the end of it, if you pay the whole loan, you can own it.
And so they take possession of the real estate.
You think it's yours, but you enter into a new debt contract.
But the problem is, is that the dollars that were created need to be repaid plus interest.
But the plus interest doesn't exist.
So you've created dollars for the loan, but there's no interest.
So the only way to pay the interest is to go out and find someone else to create more debt.
And so you end up in a Ponzi scheme.
Individuals have to take on the debt.
Companies have to take on the debt.
The closer the company is to the money printer, they get the 0%.
The poorer you are, if you're taking on credit cards, payday loans, you get the 40% or the 20%.
And then obviously the bank of the Federal Reserve System is designed when the Ponzi scheme breaks, you basically put the burden on the government, you socialize the losses onto the American people and you privatize the gains onto the bank until eventually the bank owns everything and you're on the monopoly board and the person that was able to issue the money owns all of the assets.
I think the worst part about it too is like, you know, for people who actually pay attention to the macro level economics, you just see that like the entire system relies on trust the same way fiat currency is something that exists and didn't exist prior to 71 when we came off the gold standard.
Right.
But like at this point, anybody who's gone into these positions of power understand that like it's a runaway train and there's not really any stopping it.
That's why can hardly that's why no one wants to be the first one to break the system.
So they just kick the can down the road.
And then now you see like people like Trump come in, put pressure on Powell to lower interest rates.
And he's like, well, I'm going to replace you anyways.
But not understanding that if the average person actually looks at they're like, oh, lower interest rates, right?
That's great.
That's great.
No, that's good for the people who invest.
Like I talk to this about my business partner all the time.
He's like, yeah, I'm excited that business, that interest rates are going to go down.
I was like, yeah, that's good for us.
But like the average person, it's going to hit them with inflation.
It's going to be the same situation to where now we've normalized 3% interest.
It used to never be that way.
And we can't even explain why 2% was normalized as inflation.
What they did is they made it where you contribute to your pension every month and you pay insurance premiums every month and you give it over to an asset manager to manage all the investment for you.
And so they created the money.
They owned the real estate.
They then created a Ponzi scheme where more debt has to continue, charge you the inflation, and then used your pension to become the most powerful asset manager in the world to buy the real estate so that you've got the risk.
And then when they pass the risk on, if they mess it up even further, they can use your asset as leverage, create derivatives, and crash the price of your asset so that they can then accumulate it through their hedge funds.
And so they really cornered the market.
And then what do they do with their profits?
They buy the government lobby.
And so, you know, and so they use your pension, they create your money, they create the inflation.
And you know what's even worse about the interest rates?
Well, it's actually, if you look at the market right now, when they put the interest rates down, who are they doing that for?
As the market gets more stressed, the long-term bondholders, which own the country, which is almost all foreign-owned, so the government works for the bondholders.
And these bondholders are, you know, the other countries in the world.
And the bondholders rule.
And effectively, what they're doing is they're saying, no, no, no, no.
If you want to get like 0% interest over there, we want 6%, 7%.
And so the 10-year bonds, their interest rates going up as the short-term interest rate goes down.
Now, when you're pricing a mortgage, you're pricing a 10 to 30-year contract.
You're not pricing it off the short-term bills, which is a lower interest rate.
You're pricing it off the 10, 20, and 30-year.
You're offsetting it with the 10, 30-year bonds.
They're paying higher interest rates.
So as the interest rate goes down, your mortgage, auto loans, and credit cards, they go up.
And the only reason they're doing it, and then what are they going to do with the short-term?
What are they going to do with the short-term bills?
Well, they're reforming the pension system so that they can dump it on the American people because all the foreign central banks that are members of the Bank for International Settlements, the Central Bank of Central Banks, they're all selling.
And they're taking their treasuries and they're selling them and buying gold, which is devaluing the dollar further.
Yes.
And now everyone's going into hard gold while the Trump administration dumps it.
And then what do they do?
They create new innovation and say, hey, guess what?
We're going to be the crypto capital of the world.
And we're going to actually create something, a new dollar called a stablecoin.
It's going to be programmatic.
It's going to be a social credit score.
It's going to be integrated with artificial intelligence.
And it's going to have a superficially low interest rate that you're going to subsidize.
And that's also where you get to hide some of the debt because, I mean, part of the reason why they want to lower the interest rate is so that we have to pay less money on the debt that we owe on these bonds, right?
But then at the same time, if you create a stable coin and you get people to buy the stable coin around the world, then you get to offload some of that debt that we are running into.
But the problem is, is no one trusts us now.
No.
You know, that's the worst part about this equation.
You know, I was like, you know what, Trump, he's only gone after three years.
Okay, fine.
Let it be.
But then I'm like, wait, no, I mean, he's already got the ball rolling down the road where now you've got Canada and some of these other countries getting in bed with our quote-unquote enemies, right?
They own the banks as the primary shareholder via your pension and your money of all the 20,000 corporations.
They also, during COVID, they use BlackRock's technology to manage fiscal policy.
So they own the Treasury.
They own fiscal policy.
They own monetary policy.
They own the Fed.
They own the banks.
They own 20,000 different corporations.
They get board seats on all of them.
So when you're an executive at a company, you work for the board.
The board works for the shareholders.
The shareholders is pulled together capital.
They own the media because the media is public companies as well.
They own the shares in the military industrial complex.
Under the military industrial complex is the deep state.
The deep state is CIA, Mossad, MI6.
And so those asset managers essentially have the ability to portfolio manage the major changes in the world.
Now, just because they're hosted in America, it doesn't mean they're nationalistic.
They're not nationalistic because who does this financial industrial complex and the asset managers and BlackRock co-invest with?
All of the sovereign wealth funds.
The largest sovereign wealth fund is hosted in Norway.
And then you have the Gulf states, and then you have China.
And so transnational capital is effectively the American hosted financial industrial complex that partners on every deal with the sovereign wealth funds.
That is effectively, where do the sovereign wealth funds get all this money from?
They get it because China's manufacturing everything and buying all the energy.
And so the countries that held their energy and essentially managed to maintain independence through a sovereign wealth fund, they are able to negotiate with the largest asset managers and reset the world order.
So why are we moving to multipolarity?
Because the financial industrial complex is moving the world to multipolarity.
And Trump works for the financial industrial complex.
He doesn't work for the people.
And so there's no America first.
There's no UK first.
It's why if you look at the UK, Keostama just works for the military industrial complex.
He might as well work for Larry Fink and Lockheed Martin and General Dynamic.
His job is just to send money over to Zelensky.
Zelensky then sends it back to the US military companies.
It pumps up the stock market.
It creates a GDP and it's funded via the Pentagon budget, which is Americans taking on the debt.
So all they're doing is they're asset stripping and they're running very sophisticated operations, including tariffs.
Tariffs reset the world order.
It's very convenient because you get a MAGA narrative.
You make it like, yeah, we're bringing back the manufacturing base.
We're going to make America great again.
But really, all you're doing is you're resetting all the relationships towards China, towards multi-polarity.
And every deal you're doing is you're taking foreign capital.
So when Trump announced we've got $18 trillion of investment, what is foreign direct investment?
What was the IMF created for in the first place?
It was to weaken currencies, asset strip, and then transnational capital would acquire all the assets.
So transnational capital is acquiring all these AI assets, all these data centers.
And when they acquire, it means they get the returns and they dictate policy.
And so they're going to say, NVIDIA, you give me your chips and you build the data centers in the Middle East because we want to have a part of the ecosystem and we got their energy.
And so the multi-polar world, there is no resistance against it.
It's being ushered in by the power of America with transnational capital in China.
That was one of the most high-level, perhaps the most high-level thing we've ever had a guest or us, frankly, say on the show, because you break it down in a way that makes total sense.
You look at Trump and it's like, wow, to us, he's doing a horrible job, but he's actually doing a phenomenal job at ushering in this new system.
And that's what I've heard people on Judge Napolitano or Dialogue Works talk about.
I've heard Pepe Escobar talk about this a lot.
It's like, why would you do all these things?
He thinks you're the exact opposite of what your platform is, quote unquote.
And part of it is, you know, when we see him say these crazy, ridiculous stuff, it's like he's not talking to you and I on the camera.
He's talking to the people behind the scenes watching him and signaling to those people how to please them, right?
Because that is, I mean, he's part of it.
There's no doubt about it.
Now, question for you, Simon.
Like, do you see, like, when you went into this whole thing and you learned how all of this worked, like, what is the most shocking aspect to you that like most people just get wrong all the time?
And you're like, damn, I wish they just knew better.
Once you can figure that out, you can figure out that your vote doesn't matter.
That everything is a theater.
That there's different flavors of the same uni party.
That no politician is more powerful than the systemic nature of it.
The reason for that is because once you can recognize that, you realize that countries are just nodes in this network.
And so right now, the latest flavor is that Israel rules the world.
And that is a deliberate narrative because Israel works for the US military industrial complex with plausible deniability so that you can blame everything on Israel because Israel is just an illegal jurisdiction for testing genocide as a service by Palantir, occupation as a service by Palantir.
Some of the illegal technologies, um, illegal drug testing, it's a laboratory.
So, Palestine is a laboratory for all the illegal stuff that the military mafia, which is it is a mafia, you know, um, that mafia um is due.
And then, so if you look around the world, you've got Palantir's integration into drones in Ukraine, which wasn't a war between Russia and Ukraine.
It was a war between it was a cooperation between Russia and the financial industrial complex to split Ukraine up into Russia-owned territory and BlackRock-owned territory.
And, you know, most, and that's what these different centers are for, to recruit for the mafia, essentially.
And then we figure out, well, people ask a question.
And, you know, I was very blessed by Bitcoin.
And I'll get back to the origin story when we cover Bitcoin and everything that's happening with Epstein now as well.
But once you make a billion dollars, people ask, why do you need more?
Why do you need 10 billion?
Why do you need 100 billion?
Surely you just walk away.
Well, the reason is, is because in order to get to be a billionaire, most people needed introductions.
They needed access to various networks.
And the world is run by a cartel of blackmail operations.
and compromise operations.
And so the higher you go up, someone like Jeffrey Epstein, who's a node in the network, you know, his job is to take multi-century contact networks and glue them all together by saying, if you want to get to this level and you want that introduction, then I need to have a picture of you sleeping with a 14-year-old.
It's like, you know, there's dishonest compromise.
And then there's most people, a bunch of people that are willing to do that anyway.
And so what we're seeing with the Jeffrey Epstein files is that they're purging a bunch of assets right now.
And those assets are revealing how this compromise network works.
Why are they doing that?
You'll notice that this really discredits the US system while Trump is being an agent of chaos.
At the same time, there's only one central bank in the world that's raising interest rates.
That's Japan.
They're breaking the hedge funds Japan carry trade.
They're raging ideological fake war on Europe, pretending that Europe and America are enemies, when all they're doing is they're sucking up the Euro dollars and breaking the Euro dollar system.
Simultaneously, the DXY, which is a basket of foreign currencies priced in dollars, is slowly going down.
That breaks all the dollar pegs with every country that pegged to the dollar.
And then what do they have to do?
They have to sell their treasuries or sell their gold in order to protect the peg.
They ain't selling their gold, so they're selling their treasuries.
Simultaneously, a country like Saudi Arabia that has the petro dollar, they're saying, we compete with America.
America's got all that oil and they're trying to export it all.
So who's our customer?
Our customer's China.
China's buying all our oil.
And so they gradually break the petrodollar.
And then you strategically do what exactly happened when Britain had to transfer.
You have a slow growth, a transfer of assets, and the strategic weakening of the dollar so it becomes a regional currency rather than a global currency.
And that coincided with the release of the Epstein files so that everyone says, I don't want to be a part of any of this.
Now, remember, taking on the deep state, what does that mean?
The deep state propped up the dollar.
The crimes against humanity you're witnessing was what created the demand for the dollar in the first place.
Covert wars, National Endowment of Democracy, United Nations, USAID, drug trafficking, human trafficking, weapons trafficking, drug cartels, deep state.
That's what propped up the dollar.
So by taking it on, you get the perfect narrative.
We're going to make our country great again.
We'll focus on nationalism.
And we can usher in the surveillance state by focusing on border control and a hot topic like immigration.
While really, what are you doing?
He works for the financial industrial complex, and the financial industrial complex is managing and hedging its bets.
And so, where are they going to do that?
Dismantle United Nations and do it via the border peace.
Trump gets to get rich.
He gets to build his Trump towers in the Middle East.
He creates stable coins that manage corrupt deal flow.
Again, this, if it were Biden, I'd be having the same conversation about Biden.
I just want to say, this is the heralding in of the new system.
And when you look at it from the perspective of Trump not being someone that actually wars against these things, but as someone that's ushering it all in, I mean, this sounds a lot like my new political ideology.
If you look at my career in investment banking, like I left when I realized what I'd have to do in order to climb the ladder.
And you have to be involved in degeneracy.
You have to go to parties and the parties.
The higher the party you get invited to, the worse it gets.
And if you want to get to executive, then you're doing some seriously effed up stuff, or you don't get there.
Nobody in power gets there unless you do it.
You know, there is no, very few wild cards make it.
The only wild cards that make it are the ones that don't need access to capital because that's what I learned in my business journey.
I went through a very unique experience.
So after realizing I couldn't create a bank and I was stuck in debt, I happened to be invited by somebody that appeared in the Epstein files, a guy called Amir Taki, in order to speak at the first Bitcoin conference in the world in 2011.
It was in Prague.
There was one in New York and then there was one in Prague.
And the price of Bitcoin crashed to $30 from $30 to $3 at that conference.
And, you know, that was a 90% crash.
So I've seen all the different crashes.
The point that I wanted to bring on this is I learned in investment banking what you need to do to succeed.
And then my journey started again in the business side.
Now, fortunately, something very strange happened here.
I bought my first Bitcoin at $3.
I was deep in debt.
We took our last bit of credit card debt and we flew over to Prague.
My wife persuaded me to do it.
Like I was very fortunate in that sense.
And I actually launched this book, Bank to the Future, Protect Your Future Before Governments Go Bust.
You don't have to buy it, by the way.
I'm not pitching it.
You can get a free copy on simondixon.com.
Wow.
But that was the first published book in the world to include Bitcoin and it was launched at the first Bitcoin conference.
And Because Bitcoin went from $3 to about $300 around about that time, I was completely financially independent.
And we took the bank that couldn't get the banking license and we changed the company because at the Bitcoin conference, there was a company called BitPay that was pitching for funding.
And BitPay had created like the PayPal of Bitcoin.
They made it easy for businesses to accept Bitcoin payments.
This is 2011, two years into Bitcoin.
And because the price of Bitcoin went from $3 to $300, I started investing.
And Max Kaiser and myself invested in this company, BitPay.
And as the price of Bitcoin went up, we started investing more.
And we were earning, and I transformed the company into, I sold it to Coinbase, so I'm not pitching my company anymore.
I'm very independent.
I'm not connected to any companies anymore.
But we started allowing other Bitcoiners to invest in early Bitcoin companies.
And because we earned revenue in Bitcoin and the price of Bitcoin kept going up, we didn't take any venture capital funding.
But all venture capitalists were coming at us to try and, you know, around about 2013 onwards.
And because we had enough Bitcoin, we said, well, what am I going to do with your venture capital?
And I realized, I started to learn as I became an investor, the reason that you're investing, one of the big reasons you're investing is control.
And so as an investor, you take control of the company and the direction.
And the more you invest, the more access and control you get.
And he invited, you know, basically Jeffrey Epstein to, I think, invest in this project.
I can't be fully sure.
Amir Takey responded to the Epstein file, so you can go and have a look at it.
But this is when Jeffrey Epstein started trying to infiltrate the Bitcoin network.
And what did they do?
Well, he created a mechanism for trying to get into all the funding rounds.
And this is when I realized I went on this.
So I invested in over 100 companies from Coinbase to Kraken to Bitstamp to Bitfinex to Bitcoin payments in Africa, BitPeser, UnoCoin in India, Bitso in Mexico, Airtm in Venezuela, Argentina.
I just wanted to support the entire ecosystem and ended up just investing as much.
But as my journey progressed, the VCs came in around 2013, 2014, 2015, and then they started scaling it up.
But as more and more companies started getting VC funding, I kind of got purged from being able to invest because the VCs owned the game.
And they would create contracts where the company could only take their capital.
And their capital started being seeded by these Jeffrey Epstein networks.
So people think these Silicon Valley people are like major mega billionaires.
No, they borrow the money and they compromise in the network.
And they run highly leveraged funds to become, you know, they get closer to the money printer.
And the closer you become to the money printer, the more you get to leverage, and the more you get to use your money in order to leverage and gain more influence.
And then you get more compromised up the network until suddenly you're someone like Peter Till who's fully compromised in this network and ushering in the surveillance state.
And that's how I learned through experience.
Now, what made me, there were several point parts in the journey.
Firstly, we didn't take Silicon Valley money because we had Bitcoin.
Then at a certain point, you know, we realized all many of our companies started going public, like Coinbase went public at like a hundred billion dollar valuation, various other things.
And then what do they do is they create a derivative complex around your share price.
And then you're in the game that I was in, market making and corporate finance.
And so it goes full circle.
Now, if you're not complicit with the network, they crash your share price.
And then at the very, very highest level, they use credit rating agencies.
Remember during the global financial crisis, all those mortgage-backed securities had A plus, A plus, A plus.
Because credit rating agencies are just a mechanism for enforcing compliance.
You get the higher credit rating agency, which gives you access to the cheaper credit as long as you comply with the network.
And then you're in the index funds.
Once you're in the index funds, all of that pension money goes into your company.
And then they control the media and they use media narratives in order to make sure that your narrative is fed out there to pump up the share price.
So then you work for the bondholders, the debt capital markets, the equity capital markets, and you don't have freedom of speech because you have fiduciary duties to do what's right by your shareholders.
What we end up in is we end up in a game where all of the executives look like the richest people in the world, but they get to borrow against their stock.
And so take Elon.
He gets to buy X. Why did he get to buy X?
Because the banks allowed him to borrow against his Tesla stock.
And they can use derivatives in order to knock him off the network or knock him up the network.
And all of these executives are actually pundits for power.
They're not free.
The richest man in the world is the most leveraged person in the world.
And one thing that I want to clarify too, on the topic of leverage, a lot of people don't realize, though, when you have a company as big as like a Tesla or SpaceX or let's say even Uber, let's say Uber or even Snapchat, like you're talking about FinTech or Silicon Valley, their cash burn is super heavy.
So they need that outside investment in order to even run the company.
And a lot of those companies weren't even profitable for a very long time.
It didn't matter as long as they saw revenue coming in, and that's where you get valuations, and that's where you have people being like, Well, your company's super successful, but it's on the backs of those investors who have to continuously put in cash.
And the people who started the company have no choice but to continue to run with the train, otherwise, the entire thing collapses.
So, there's that leverage, that cash point burn Sam Altman right now, like literally holding out that you know, if he doesn't comply right now, the Trump administration is regime-changing the Federal Reserve because the private credit markets that were funding these data centers seized up,
and so he's putting in a new Federal Reserve chair that's on the Epstein files in order to make sure that those rates go down so that they can open up the credit market.
Now, what is the credit market?
Private credit is a bunch of private people, but you think it's private people, they're borrowing from the banks, and the banks are socializing the losses, privatized.
It's just rolling over the Ponzi, and so you get these ever more elaborate ways of rolling over the Ponzi scheme, and people clip it more and more and more until finally the end game is when you can't sell a bond.
Once you sell a bond, that's it.
And so, why are they dumping all of the bonds on the American people?
Because eventually, it won't be useful collateral.
You'll have to have gold as collateral.
And right now, the rest of the world is using gold as collateral, and America's using their bonds as collateral.
Yeah, well, I mean, sounds like to me, and I'm much more of a layman in finance than you or Tim.
Tim's a very educated guy when it comes to this.
I'm someone that's trying to learn more.
But from a geopolitical perspective, from a local politic perspective, what it sounds like is you're describing the club because we always hear this: there's a big club, and you ain't in it.
And you talk about the different rungs on the ladder of how you get into the club, and how Silicon Valley is introductory, and you're ultimately just trying to get closer to that money printer.
That is everything.
That's not just politics, that's not just finance, that's how the world works.
And you talked about it earlier a little bit, where you have these competing teams.
We call them sports teams a lot.
It's what are you, red or blue?
Are you crippling or bloody Democrat or Republican?
And so, if you've got a lot of money, you can buy a politician.
It's prostitution.
And it's a competing game.
So, what is the American system?
It guarantees, and by American system, I mean anybody that's subscribed.
So, America, after the British Empire created the model after the Dutch Empire, we then got the Federal Reserve in America and then built the same system.
But, you know, and then ever since the Federal Reserve, the debt has got to 38 trillion.
And then, if you want to include consumer debt, derivatives, and everything else, you're probably at 600 trillion, something like that.
And, you know, the club, as it were, is you get to buy the, you know, politics is a pay-to-play system in anyone structured this way.
A debt-based Ponzi scheme is a fiat currency, a central bank that rolls over the Ponzi scheme for the banks, and a political, a political system that is owned by its lobbies.
And then you create a series of games where no one can deviate.
One is a compromise operation.
Jeffrey Epstein's an example of it that you can very easily see now.
The other is you create a series of games.
If you're an executive, you have to report your accounts every three months.
So you are playing a three-month game.
And that three-month game determines whether the financial industrial complex will knock you up the network or down the network and whether you get access to the capital.
And so you can't think long-term.
You can only think to the next earnings cycle.
And they roll over these executives because remember, the shareholders control the game.
They have a board, and the executives work for the board.
They can change the board and they can change the executives.
And so you have a three-month game at the corporate level.
It guarantees short-term thinking, which is why a company like BlackRock can say, hey, here's a good way to make money.
Let's increase the Pentagon budget from a trillion to a trillion and a half.
And let's escalate an operation to continue the war in Europe.
That's profit.
That's GDP.
That's stock market growth in this measure.
The government, they're playing a four-year or two-year game.
So Trump effectively, Trump is an interesting one because he does have a little bit of leverage.
That's why, you know, Biden was just your normal neocon.
Like he works for military power, Zionist power, you know, usual type of thing, escalate the war, prop up the stock market.
Trump is way more aligned with the financial industrial complex than the military industrial complex.
But the military industrial complex has the deep state, which means that when there's normally finance and military are on par, but there's a rising technical industrial complex, there's a legacy military industrial complex, and then there's a financial industrial complex that controls access to capital.
These are the different factions.
So if you look at Trump, what was his campaign financing?
Number one was Elon.
That's a node in the technical industrial complex.
Number two was the Mellon Banking family, which is a node in the financial industrial complex.
And number three was Mariam Adelstone, which is a node in Israel stroke military industrial complex.
And so that's his order, if you think about it.
Finance for technical first, finance second, military third.
There's crossover.
Sometimes they're all aligned.
But in this transition to a multipolar world, the military still wants to prop up the dollar with war and be the world reserve currency.
But due to a rising power called China, you've now got the sovereign wealth funds that work with the financial industrial complex that now have leverage over the military industrial complex.
And so the military is saying, right, we can no longer run these forever wars because China has said the Middle East needs to have peace.
And so now that China normalized between Iran and Saudi Arabia and effectively said Israel can't be used by the military to destabilize the region, we've got to purge all of these different proxies and create peace in the Middle East.
Now, Trump as the existing empire is managing how does America look strong while it shrinks to a regional power.
And so he gets to say, all right, I'll be the border peace guy.
So they get to negotiate all the deals.
And then we manage the transition via the Border Peace.
And I get to take credit for it.
And then I get my Nobel Peace Prize and various other things.
Meanwhile, I'm stripping all the assets over to the sovereign wealth funds and transnational capital.
And I'm running the economy hot.
So that essentially the market just becomes GDP, GDP and stock market.
That does not factor in wealth inequality.
It doesn't factor it in at all.
And so you've got the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer.
It's a K-shaped economy.
Nothing strops his train.
The debt has to be rolled over.
You can't pay down the debt.
And he has two years and a few government shutdowns in between, where every government shutdown and every midterm election, he needs to go back to his donors.
And they all then get to say, all right, well, I'll give this amount of money to my prostitute.
And therefore, he wants this.
And then it's like an auction of what do you do for corporate power.
So I have a question for you because our and you're hitting the nail on the head of like things that people want to know.
And specifically with our audience, they wanted to ask you this specifically.
With all of these situations, and you're talking about the failing of the financial system and all the fact of like the K-shaped economy, everyone's feeling that in real time.
But the question is, from your experience, what can the average person do in order to actually escape or potentially beat that system?
Or how do they become financially independent?
So it's possible.
It just seems impossible for the average person these days.
And so then you say, well, that's just a game for the rich.
No, that's very disempowering.
It's not a game for the rich.
The rich have massive, massive advantages, but you have to actually put together a 10-year plan for yourself.
And that 10-year plan, I had to do that.
I had to make a decision when I was deep in debt.
Am I going to buy Bitcoin or am I going to pay my debt?
I had to make that decision.
And I'm not saying this is the right decision for you because it comes with consequences.
It affects your FICO score.
It all this thing.
But I decided to stop paying my debt and acquire assets.
And then every month I just bought more assets.
And initially, it was like $10, then it was $100.
And the only way to beat this game is to be an asset holder.
It's the only way.
Because the whole economy is to pump up the assets.
And now then you need to really learn what assets.
Well, where are we going through?
The other thing to recognize is that people are waiting for some crazy claps.
And black swan events do happen.
And I'm sure we'll get one.
But they're not that frequent.
They happen like every 10 years.
And that's not what, you know, they'll win those games because they've got the, they'll capture the whole thing.
But what they want to do is manage a slow transition from turning everyone into an asset, i.e., you own debt, to the wealth being transferred to the asset holder.
And so when you're changing an empire, the British Empire to the American Empire, the average Brit wouldn't notice.
America's going to have internal civil unrest, I think, is the goal.
Middle East is going to have peace and China's going to rise.
America will continue to be a very important stock market and bond market and capital market, and it will be the regional power.
The entire Western hemisphere is going to be owned by the U.S. stock market.
You know, that's its region.
And so I think we've avoided World War III by all of these world powers and transnational capital negotiating, but they definitely want, you know, they definitely want parts of the place to be in violence.
So the fall of an empire is the rise of capital.
So it won't happen.
I don't, I'm not predicting this crazy stock market crash and sudden event when you realize the transition is happening.
It's just going to be more of what we see right now.
Standard of living just gets worse and worse and worse if you're in debt.
And it gets better and better if you've got assets.
And here's what I'll add to that because I 100% agree with everything you've just said there.
And for myself, I had that conversation some years ago where I was like, okay, damn, like I can sit here and complain because, you know, 2025, we're here now, but like things sucked even 10 years ago.
Like people were still complaining about the same things they're complaining about today.
So like I made that same decision like you did.
And I said, all right, look, assets may be expensive and I may not be able to afford it right now, but what can I do to actually achieve that?
One thing that fixed my equation was everybody thinks that they have to be a solo entrepreneur investor.
Do you know what the Jewish people do?
Do you know what Indians do?
Do you know what a lot of these other communities do?
They invest together as a unit where people have co-founders.
They have co-investors for a particular reason.
Rich people do this all the time.
You don't just bring your money into the equation.
Let's say you want to buy a house.
I don't buy the house by myself.
Let's say I bring $10,000 or $15,000 to the equation.
My other buddy brings $15,000 to the equation and another person brings $15,000 to the equation.
And the second part to that equation of what I had to do was find people to be around that were smarter than me at first to where I could learn of what they're doing that I'm not doing right.
Because everything from you becoming wealthy and staying where you're at is an information gap.
It's a knowledge gap, 100%.
There's nothing that you did that was like, that that person did that was like super special and they're not any smarter than you.
It was a knowledge gap.
And if you're finding the people that know that knowledge just like yourself, you are a knowledgeable person.
And a lot of people have learned from you just by being around you, right?
So it's those things, as well as sometimes you got to make sacrifices.
When I was in college, I was working like two jobs to stack as much as I could in order to actually make my first investment on something.
You know, there is a sacrifice to be made and it has to give somewhere.
So that's my two cents, but I agree with everything that you've been saying thus far.
And so you just got to look at who owns that media.
And whenever you read a headline, you're like, okay, that's what Israel wants me to believe.
That's what Britain wants me to believe.
And that's how to look at media.
None of it is true.
It may be true.
It may not be true.
But start with it, it's not true.
That's what somebody wants me to believe.
And so the headline is designed to distract you from how the world really works.
You talked about this being not being an entrepreneur and investor.
So from my experience, I started as somebody that worked.
And then I ended up self-employed doing a conference business, you know, kind of a conference business where it was just me selling myself and getting speaking gigs.
And then I built a business and realized that that's all about not getting paid and paying others.
And then eventually, after 10 years, if you make every decision right and you sell your soul to capital, then you might get to play the compromise game and become really, really rich.
I had a bit of a strange story because of the Bitcoin side.
It kind of freed me from all of that, that compromise game.
But in the end, you become an investor and you realize that the riskiest share you'll ever own is your own business.
Now, for some people, I don't regret any of that because I think your education is bigger in business than anything else.
The thing about business is you have to become an expert in HR, human relations, marketing, sales, finance, products, like everything.
So anyone that starts a business and fails or succeeds, it's the biggest education because you've got to do everything.
And nowadays with AI, you know, it's something people should like, it's a different game, a completely different game.
I mean, you know, so you go through that journey, but what if I if I had gone back and said, what I did right is I became an investor while I was an entrepreneur because the business sometimes will be the riskiest investment you'll ever make and it won't succeed and you'll end up bankrupt.
But for years, I never paid myself a salary.
Whereas if I just actually paid myself a salary rather than my staff and I had invested that money as I was getting that salary and I was spending less than I earned and invested the difference, this journey would have been a lot easier because it was very hard.
You know, eventually I got there during that whole thing.
But the key thing is, and another thing I really want to say, you are being pushed to be a trader and a gambler right now.
And now literally everyone's a gambling addict in the United States, whether that's sports betting, whether that's risky shitcoins, I guess we'd call them, the trading of those, all of that stuff.
They want you to be a gambler because they make money from leverage.
And the more trading fees you give them, the richer they get.
Now, what is really annoying to them is slow patient investors that own their own capital.
And that, you know, they try and get you to own your assets with them.
And so everybody should be an investor.
Now, investing, as opposed to trading, requires you to have a 10-year plan.
And a 10-year plan looks really, really slow in the beginning, which is that you spend less than you earn and you invest the difference.
And if you're doing something with something like Bitcoin, you need to be spending less than you earn and invest the difference and buy Bitcoin every month, regardless of what the price is.
For the past five years, I've been supplement e-commerce.
I've been warehousing.
I do things where I deal with physical goods and either shipping them out for people at a rate or selling them myself and shipping them out for myself at a rate.
The thing that I'm gleaning from this conversation is like, I know nothing.
I know nothing.
And seriously, you've inspired me to do a ton of research.
And like you said, to own more assets this month than I did last month.
So then you get in the next conversation, which is which assets.
Now that's a hard part.
And there's different degrees of how I'd say this.
Firstly, all stock markets are going up because markets are being manipulated.
So even foreign stock markets, like shit countries like the UK, which is an absolute shithole right now, the stock market is outperforming the S ⁇ P right now because they're doing capital outflows.
And so they're managing the market to continually go up until the sale of the last bond.
But they're also doing capital outflow and hedging money into other markets, emerging markets.
And so you have to look at the world today in multipolarity.
And either you're going to say, all right, well, Asia is going to rise, Middle East is going to rise, Africa might rise.
There's different risk profiles there.
America is going to be all the stock market.
And then you have to kind of make decisions or you end up just going into some kind of index.
But in a multipolar world, if you're in the US, I think get outside a US-centric view of the world.
I do think the US stock market will continue to be pumped for as long as they can.
But transnational capital is managing capital outflows while making sure the stock market is pumped for as long as a debt can be rolled over.
And so you think about that.
And then you think about, well, right now, the dollar as a world reserve asset is no longer the major asset.
And so treasuries are only 40% of global world reserve assets.
It was 70%.
That's a major change.
The American GDP is only, it was 60%.
Now it's 25% of world GDP.
And so you got to think to yourself, if they're managing a transition, you know, real estate, again, like, I can't give you generals and financial advice, but they're going to pump the market to make sure real estate continues to go up.
And they're going to make sure the stock market continues to go up for as long as they can within America.
Obviously, there's local knowledge expertise that I don't have that you got to factor in to that equation.
But in a multipolar world, what are central banks doing right now?
Well, they're all buying gold.
And they all know what's happening in the market.
You know, yes, it's volatile.
Yes, you're buying on dips and all that type of stuff.
But central banks are buying gold.
They're printing fiat currency and buying gold.
They don't want dollar-denominated assets.
They want gold.
AI, robotics, technology, solar energy, all of the major thing that's going to power AI and robotics, they want commodities.
They need components.
And so they're buying all of those commodities at the moment.
We've got the craziness in silver, various other things.
What is the gold and silver story eventually?
The gold and silver story is that the gold and silver doesn't exist and there's a bunch of derivatives for gold and silver that doesn't exist.
Eventually, that becomes a problem, just like the dollars that don't exist in the banking system.
And so the Bitcoin story, while it's underperformed the market, is a self-custody story.
Because right now, people are trying to take custody of their gold and they can't get their gold.
So they have a gold IOU.
They're benefiting from the price appreciation, but they don't have any gold.
And somebody doesn't have the gold.
Somebody doesn't have the silver.
And somebody was on the wrong side of the silver trade.
And it was probably a bank dumping it on your pension.
Because in the middle of this, they went from quantitative tightening to quantitative easing.
A bank went bust.
And there was massive bailouts that were happening without even talking about it at the Federal Reserve level.
Somebody's on the wrong side of this trade.
And what did they do during the globe, the financial crisis?
The banks were fine.
They acquired all of the distressed assets and they passed a liability onto those hedge funds.
And those hedge funds and mortgage-backed securities were owned by your pension.
And so they passed it over to you.
They probably just did the same thing on the wrong side of the silver trade.
And so in this world, you want the actual asset you can hold.
And right now, you can probably only at scale.
Can you really hold your gold?
Can you really hold your silver?
No, you probably just have a gold IOU or a silver IOU.
Now, I really think that gold and silver have further to go, and the commodity play has a lot further to go because it's geopolitical.
But at some point, this becomes a self-custody story.
And the only asset that I know of that has a fixed supply, money you can own, and money you can spend is Bitcoin.
Everything else is a PSYOP that was created by Silicon Valley.
Stable coins are Jeffrey Epstein operations by Brock Piers that sold it to Bitfinex and all sorts of stuff.
We can go into that.
But everything in crypto is a psyop to usher in the surveillance state and make Silicon Valley richer to supplement their poor returns by launching new fiat currencies.
And so Bitcoin's the only thing where money you can own, money you can spend, and money that has a fixed supply.
And you can self-custody it and take it wherever you go, wherever you want.
Now, why are they trying to make out that Jeffrey Epstein created Bitcoin right now?
Why did Howard Lutnick go around and get everyone to put their Bitcoin into treasury companies?
Why did Michael Saylor scoop up 650,000 Bitcoin into a Wall Street vehicle and load it up with debt?
Because they want your Bitcoin and they want you to put it in custody.
Why did they take Coinbase public after receiving Jeffrey Epstein funding?
Because they're trying to steal your Bitcoin.
And they want you, what is everyone doing right now?
The price just crashed to approximately $65,000.
Those are all the people that borrowed against their Bitcoin and levered up.
That's now owned by Wall Street and it's not owned by you.
You got the debt and they got the Bitcoin.
That's exactly what leverage is for.
It's to steal your money.
It's a rigged game.
Those that control the markets always win.
When I was a market maker, I always won.
When I was in corporate finance, I was always trying to lever you up to turn you into a product.
When I worked in stockbroking, I was trying to get you on the wrong side of the trade to the ones that actually controlled the market.
And when I realized that I don't want to do that anymore, I had to leave the market.
And that's the game.
No one's going to tell you this stuff because almost everybody is wrapped up in some form of leverage or control grid, whether they're owned by the bank, they're owned by the investment bank, they're owned by the asset manager.
Everybody is owned by somebody in this game of leverage.
And if you want to boycott the system, you either give more power to BlackRock or you recognize that the boycott of the Federal Reserve is the system that exists outside the Federal Reserve, gold and Bitcoin.
The boycott of BlackRock and the asset managers is owning it in self-custody rather than via an ETF.
The boycott of the bank is not giving them your asset so that you can borrow against it.
The boycott of the global institutions that are building the surveillance state is investing local.
And the boycott of the large multinational corporations that need your subscription service to survive so that they can lever up is spending local.
And the boycott of it's all is doing the opposite of what they want you to do because they want you psychologically addicted to their devices and their products and they want you weak and they want you addicted to drugs, vaccinated, not having children,
hating women, hating men, arguing with each other, divide and conquer, believing that it's those that race, that religion, that group, that Democrat, that Republican, they want us all arguing.
They are shaking up the jar and they are trying to make us all usher in because you know what they really want?
They want the revolution.
The solution that you think that you're fighting for is how they get the surveillance state.
And all of these operations were to lock you in your house, hating women, and Elon Musk will create some kind of robot that they want you to have sex with.
So when a bank goes bust, you will be given an app and the terms and conditions, and you'll sign up for your CBDC or stablecoin.
And within that CBDC and stablecoin, you will have to take certain actions in order to not have that, you know, to have not have that money shut down.
And it will be with a you are already on X on spaces building your social credit score.
And all of this data, all of this Epstein files, all of this Doge data, all of this freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach is one big, ginormous data play.
There's only so many people that can go out in a farm.
And I recommend you do.
Like, build your communities, build, go out, get away from cities if you can.
Work from home.
Build communities.
Do this.
I really liked what you said about co-investment.
Like, do look out for your community.
Build your community because there's going to be a time when you really need to look out for each other.
And if you haven't, if you haven't got the social skills, you haven't built the relationships, get to know your neighbor.
And I really recommend learn how to do these things, like how to be self-sufficient as a community so that you're invincible from whatever they want to do.
And yeah, do these co-investments, pull your money, get better deals, like start learning how to have your own independent supply chains and various other things.
But recognize there's no perfection.
I've got an iPhone and I know what happens behind that iPhone.
I'm using AI and I have to use AI in order to be productive.
You're never going to get some people will say, all right, I'm not going to use AI.
Then you're going to be screwed.
Like the most productive people are going to be using AI.
You just need to be consciously aware of what this thing is.
And at the end, I think at the end, who is the master of all planners?
I don't want to preach, but I believe that there is a plan and it is God that has that plan.
And we all have to build our relationship with God in the way that we think is right, whatever truth you've come to.
But we have to have faith in something.
Because everyone's losing trust in everything.
This is people are losing family values.
I mean, come on.
What was Jeffrey Epps?
What have we witnessed in Gaza?
We're blowing up children.
We're using children as weapons, like for leverage in order to climb a system.
Like we got just one job on this earth, which is to have children and look after children and look and create a better, you know, outcome for the future.
Now, we've gone off the rails.
When you go off the rails, it's like an elastic band.
Society, it needs to come back.
It needs to come back.
And it's going to be really painful in that transition.
And you need to decide, where do I want to live?
You know, the American and British Empire don't get to blow up the world.
And then when it comes back to roost, nothing happens.
No, there is justice in this world.
There is a greater plan.
And this is the rise of other jurisdictions.
So these are times to think about where do I want to live?
What do I want to do?
And what is my 10-year plan?
And I'll tell you what, in the next five years, we'll probably see 200 years of change.
So the only thing you're going to be able to do to manage this transition is have a good community around you, give content, help others.
And we're going to share this journey together because I don't think I have a clue what the world looks like in 10 years.
Because not enough people are doing what you just did right now, where you're like, look, it's really bad, but here's a solution and what you can do with that.
I'll give you one more thought to Once you realize there's a small group at the top, like you kind of get taken in a direction that can lead you in a very hateful place.
There are very deliberate psychological operations right now.
You could go on X right now, and you could end up in a space.
And in that space, they'll tell you how every problem in the world is because of the Jews.
And there'll be another space where they'll tell you how every single problem in the world is Qatar and the Muslims and the invaders and stuff.
And you'll go to another solution and you'll find a person that is building a white nationalist uprising.
And maybe you'll end up in what they're doing is they're putting us all in boxes and galvanizing the radical in all of us.
At the very top, I've been down this process.
It's not all the Jews.
It's not that, you know, the, it's not, it's, it's literally, it's fluid.
It changes.
It's a ruthless game where people are backstabbing each other and blackmailing each other.
And it changes.
With the rise of China, that gave a lot of capital power to China.
With the rise of India, you had a bunch of power in Indian power.
With the rise of the Gulf countries, you had a lot of power there.
And, you know, you'll be taken into this direction of thinking, all right, there's a lot of Jewish power and there is a lot of Jewish power, but who do they really work for?
You know, and you've got to just be a little bit intelligent here and recognize it's not one group of people and they're taking you down environments where if you really, really believe that it's all the Jews, then they're trying to make you do what essentially happened in World War II because that's the natural solution.
They're trying to take you down.
So all I want to say is don't fall for these extremes.
It's always, you know, one side is the rebel alliance and they're down.
It's the last minute of the final round in the fight.
The other guy is a titan destroying them.
And oh, you support the little guy.
We're going to back him.
And it's going to be the Rocky movie, the Star Wars movie.
Luke Skywalker is going to, you know, kill the emperor and save his father.
When in reality, it's all just power and control groups that fluctuate and fight with each other and stab each other in the back.
And the real waking up of just the global public, not just the American public, is realizing, I guess, not in a black pill or in a white pill way, realizing we have to do what we have to do to have agency, right?
We have to have actual agency.
It's not enough to just whine about a system.
You have to change the system from the inside.
And that happens, you know, you talk about nodes and these different networks of power and control.
We're all nodes and networks in the country, right?
So we have to pool together and invest together and work together and realize the big man isn't going to save us.
So I give real-time analysis on X, which is where I spend most of my time.
And I go up on spaces that other people host.
So at SimonDixon Twit.
Then as a discipline, I publish very geeky, very like three to four hours every week of everything that happened that week in tech, Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and geopolitics.
And I take all of the different stories and then just follow the money.
And it's always the complete opposite of what the headline is showing.
I publish that on my YouTube channel, Simon Dixon.
And then I try and take a four-hour video and push it through AI and turn it into a 15-minute video.
And it turns out I'm very long-winded.
I just can't help it.
It's just how I am.
And so I publish those.
And then I try to go on a bunch of decentralized network.
And in case I get canceled, I've created an environment on simondixon.com that's on like a server that hopefully in case I get taken off any of the networks, I can publish stuff and upload it all there.
And Simon, while I was like just doing some research and learning about you, I didn't realize how many mutual people we know.
I'm very deep in the crypto space with a lot of my co-founders and the projects that they've been a part of and that they've built.
So after this, I definitely want us to connect and talk more about those things because I was looking at your link that I was like, oh, we know those people.
Oh, we know that person.
Oh, we know that person.
And like, I didn't realize how much of a small world it was.
So I'll definitely be reaching out to you and Azad because it's just a breath of fresh air to have conversations like this.
And I really appreciate you just taking the time to come on the show.
And as I say, information is just the most important thing right now.
Like we're overwhelmed with information, but somehow you need to filter to the information that's going to help you because that's right now it's look after you, look after your family, look after your community.
And like we said, you guys can find you got to come back.
We'll definitely have you back on.
I'll email you and maybe sometime later we can get another conversation going, especially when we have, and a lot of people of our audience are like working right now.
So there's more people that need to hear from you, man, especially with our community that they would resonate.
And then Tim tells me it's the most incredible person on earth.
And then we have them on the air and it's true.
Like, as far as a knowledge base and being able to provide context and real content on it in a non-like egghead way, there aren't many people like that.
Guys, these are conversations I like to have more than anything.
I just don't talk about them as much because I don't want to bore people on air.
But these are conversations that I have when I'm not on air and I'm like in meetings and I'm in business meetings with other people because I'm fascinated about these things.
And I just want to collect information.
Everything is a knowledge gap.
And as I've found myself talking to certain people, it's just like you, just like you had your eye.
We got to find a way to replicate this, to have this guy on more, really to learn more about what he knows so that we can also deliver that kind of information.
The thing I love about the gray area and the thing that I've really appreciated over the time of our 50-plus episodes doing the show is that we have grown so much as individuals from doing the show, both in our knowledge base and really just as people connecting and giving the information both to our audience and giving and taking information from our phenomenal guests that come on the show.
If you've been watching the show for a little while, we were talking about this at the beginning, you know how much of an evolution we've made, right, Tim?
Like it's really been incredible to see over this four-month period of time, really close to getting to five months, but really in under half a year, I've already developed like 10 new political, economic, socioeconomic, geopolitical positions I wasn't aware of.
And it's purely because we do the show not from a perspective of arrogance or knowing everything or defending a position.
Oftentimes we defend a position we have to reformulate because we have a discussion about it.
And if you, you know, I just realized something, you know, and it's not like me gatekeeping or anything.
I just kind of assumed that like there are things that people enjoy and there's people things that people don't enjoy.
But like even more so than Simon in general, like there's more people like him, by the way, that have that information, as well as things that I can do in a deep dive where I can teach you guys some stuff.
100%.
I think at the end of the day, like everyone's just looking for something.
And if you can find anything that helps you out of life out of this show, then it just, I feel like I've accomplished my goal in life.
It's just to make sure that like I'm giving value to the marketplace and specifically every single person that's watching tonight.
Like, you know, I like the political commentary and stuff like that.
And you ask me sometimes, you're like, did you see the latest news?
I'm like, I see it, but like, really, what I do often is like, I'm, I'm a YouTube guy.
Like, I'm sitting watching.
I'm sitting here watching and reading up and learning about how these monetary systems work and things that I could do and investment and things like that.
It really gave me a perspective into your mindset.
And I want to say this, like, I really, I respect, it's not, not that I didn't respect your mindset already.
I respect it a lot more now, understanding that's really the underpinnings of everything.
Right.
And like once you understand that, instead of like being like, this is crazy developing, I know all about the thing that's happening, but you don't know anything about why.