Jose Vega joins The Gray Area to expose the Epstein files’ 3M+ documents, implicating military, intelligence, and foreign elites—like Russian/Israeli diplomats tied to AIPAC—while dismissing partisan blame-shifting. He contrasts Trump’s alleged exploitation (e.g., "Calendar Girls" parties with Clinton, Musk, and Gates) with systemic corruption, where figures like Lutnick and Barak allegedly trained Epstein as a spy. The hosts question why 99.2% of Epstein-related files remain sealed, despite disturbing claims like torture/sex with minors and Gates’ public admissions. Vega’s campaign against Congressman Richie Torres highlights establishment complicity in housing neglect and foreign policy overreach, while the crew mocks media distractions, vowing to prioritize truth over divisive growth tactics. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, the good thing is there's safety in numbers, and a lot of great people are covering this story.
I saw Dew Dissidents cover it.
Harrison was really breaking it down on Infowars today, filling it with my dad.
It's a lot of incredible information.
And a lot of it dates back to stuff that happened in the 20 teens and before that people covered at the time and pointed out at the time and were accused of being crazy of being lunatic asylum, you know.
But now it's all kind of coming out, the truth about all these things.
And what we have is, I have a selection of clips and whatnot.
You have the Justice Department documents referencing all these various people with the various links, right?
And we're not necessarily going to react to it tonight, although I think I have a clip of it or two.
If Tim's going to step out for a second, we're not necessarily going to react to it tonight, but Epstein did a series of interviews with Steve Bannon in 2019 that Bannon has been saying, oh, I'll release it, whatever, at some point soon, right?
And a two-hour portion of that, it's not even the whole thing has come out, and it's completely bizarre.
I made the mistake of trying to listen to some of it before bed last night.
He's a very creepy guy.
It's very off-putting and very weird.
But I've got a couple selections from that.
Of course, we've got the full cover-up, and that's something that Tim did a really good job of doing the news roundup on.
You know, people like Kash Patel, people like Dan Bongino, people like, what's the guy's name?
Todd Blanch.
That's right.
I almost forgot.
Todd Blanche, Pam Bondi, and all sorts of, you know, creatures of Washington trying to diminish this.
But people are like, this is the biggest story in the country.
And I'm glad that we at least have him and at least a couple other people to call this out.
And there have been people like Rokana, like across the aisle that have been pushing, you know, for the victims to get the justice they deserve.
And I think that's a beautiful thing.
Because ultimately, like, this is the ultimate litmus test.
It's like either you cover up for people that are literally, it's on record, ritualistically selling, sacrificing, torturing, you know, don't even want to say who, you know, little ones.
Like it's, it's beyond anything.
And like we talk about it, we try to make light of some of these things because humor disarms, you know, a lot of the real deep, dark underbelly of the species.
And as I was literally looking through this, pulling the files, reading them all, because I was like, all right, we got to make sure everybody has all the information.
I found myself sitting there like, it's horrible.
Like I was, I was like breathing kind of hard.
I'm like sitting there kind of sweating.
I'm like, the worst of the files, we're going to be covering those after our guests tonight.
I promise you, whatever you're going to see is going to be, they might have already reported it, or you may not have seen this yet, but we're still going to cover it.
I can go into it a little more after we're done rolling that.
But the main thing you have to remember is a lot of people got very close in the 20 teens to figuring a lot of this stuff out because in WikiLeaks, there's a guy named John Podesta, a real deep state creature monster.
And he was involved with people like Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, who Abedeen, a lot of other people.
And they would do these spirit cooking rituals with this lady named Marina Abramovich.
And that sounds crazy in Schizo if you're a normie and you're hearing these things.
This is like widely known, well-known.
Basically, it's like a fake eating of a body or like playing with blood of like a cadaver or something that's not real.
But they do these things called spirit cooking.
It's real.
If you look it up, they parties, galas about it to raise money for charity and stuff.
Like it's beyond anything.
But language in those emails came out and what it referred to was pizza cheese.
Obama ordered $65,000 worth of hot dogs.
Hot dog is a slang term for a young boy.
And like all the presidents, it seems are involved in this, at least for what's coming out in the files.
And we don't know truly how much of it is to be believed, but this weird kind of pseudo-coded, like satanic language they use to describe children, it's all over these old emails.
And it's the exact same language in these new files.
The reason why I don't know about Pizzagate is for a long time, I kept myself far removed from news and everything.
Like I've been back into the news within the last five years because I had to pay attention because it was immediately right.
But like most of the stuff I used to consume in terms of media was like mostly educational, which is why I know a lot about things is because that was like my regular occurrence.
And it's all, it's fun in the same way that it's fun when like I, when you know about something that I don't know about, like when I can give you some background on these things and also learn as well myself, because revisiting these things, like this, this was the thing that really precipitated everyone getting banned off the internet.
This was, this was the thing, at least for us.
Like a few months after we talked about this, we were off the internet, basically.
A major story weeks ago when an armed man decided to investigate a DC area pizza place for himself.
This man right here, he carried a rifle into a pizza parlor and then fired it at the floor.
Media is telling you the entire story is a hoax or fake news.
But what does that even mean?
I spent the last month investigating.
So what exactly is Pizzagate?
And are there any actual facts to support the story?
I've got to warn you, what we're going to talk about tonight will be disturbing to some people, but this is a reality check you won't see anywhere else.
Pizzagate actually comes from the WikiLeaks release of hacked emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.
In all, WikiLeaks dumped around 50,000 email messages, and it was from those emails that the claims that John Podesta may be part of a child sex trafficking ring come from.
To be clear, not one single email in the Podesta emails discusses child sex trafficking or pedophilia.
That is a fact.
But there are dozens of what seem to be strangely worded emails dealing with pizza and handkerchiefs.
Self-described online investigators say that those words in the emails about pizza and the talk of handkerchiefs is code language used by pedophiles.
So how did a DC pizza parlor get pulled into the story?
Well, again, read any mainstream report and they indicate that Comet Ping Pong Pizza was somehow linked to this fake story and has no relation to anyone involved.
But the truth is, that's not true either.
What media is ignoring is that the Comet Ping Pong Pizza Place is actually referenced in the Podesta emails at least a dozen or so times, and that the owner of that place, James Alphantis, is a friend of John Podesta.
He was actually named, this is kind of strange, by GQ Magazine, as one of the top 50 most powerful people in Washington.
Yes, we're talking about a pizza parlor owner.
Now, let's talk facts here.
There is no solid evidence that Comet Ping Pong Pizza is being used to run a child sex trafficking ring.
But there are some very strange connections between Comet Ping Pong Pizza and a second pizza place two doors over, Besta Pizza, and the accusations of pedophilia.
Now, this is where things start to get strange when you research this story.
Now, to begin, I need to show you a 2007 unclassified FBI document.
That document, according to the FBI, contains commonly used symbols by pedophiles to express their preference in children.
I want you to see these images here.
These are the images.
Notice this one on the end, the triangle.
That image signifies something called boy love.
The pizza place next door to Comet Ping Pong Pizza, Besta Pizza.
Well, this was their logo until only a few weeks ago.
Clearly, you can see that the Besta logo actually contains the same image, I'm going to show you again, as that boy lover image.
Interestingly, after Pizzagate investigators pointed this out, Besta Pizza changed their logo, and there it is now.
They've removed the triangle.
Also, Comet Ping Pong, owned by Alphantis, is the place where a number of performance artists perform regularly.
Two of the groups that perform there, who you can see advertised, by the way, on this Comet Ping Pong poster, include a group called Heavy Breathing and another group called Sex Stains.
Well, if you check out the YouTube videos by these bands, Heavy Breathing has songs that do joke about pedophilia.
And the band Sex Stains has a video that includes, and you see it right there, that same boy lover symbol.
It's nearly identical to the one that the FBI does say is a pedophile code symbol for boy love.
As I said, there are some strange things there.
As for the owner of the pizza place, James Alphantis, well, he was one time in a relationship with David Brock, who ran Media Matters for America.
Well, since Pizzagate began to blow up online, he has made his Instagram profile, Jimmy Comet, private.
But an archive search of Instagram reveals a number of strange photographs and words with strange and disturbing images associated with them.
Look, to the point where we can't show you those pictures.
We're not even going to describe them to you because some viewers would find it too disturbing to share on TV.
Now let's talk about the Podesta brothers because remember it was John Podesta's email that was hacked.
In those leaked Podesta emails, John Podesta talks about his close relationship with Dennis Hastert, the former Speaker of the House, who was recently sentenced to 15 months in prison for abusing boys years ago.
He was referred to by the judge as a serial child molester.
According to the Washington Post, visitors to Tony Podesta's home in Falls Church got an eye full when they walked into a bedroom at the Podesta residence hung with multiple color pictures by Katie Grannon, a photographer known for documentary style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes.
And to be clear, that just begins to scratch the surface of how strange some of this stuff is.
And bear in mind, we can't get into a lot of the real details of it because of the limits on broadcasting this on television.
But it is some very strange stuff.
Now keep in mind, again, there is no proof here that there is a child sex ring being operated out of a DC pizza parlor.
Investigators have already proven there's nothing to this story, right?
Well actually no.
And that's what you need to know.
For all that is here, there has not been one single public investigation of any of this, not from local police, not from the FBI, no one.
And that has to be the big question.
Not for Podesta or for pizza parlor owners, but for law enforcement.
Based on what may be or may not be here.
The big question is, why hasn't any investigation taken place?
You know, like it's like, oh, like we got this person who diddled the serial diddler and then he knows this person who's emailing people about diddler stuff.
And then the pizza parlor is using a diddler image.
And one guy goes in there and fires a shot at the floor.
It's so hard to know the truth behind these situations.
Some of them are just so wild.
And it's very hard, guys, like to distill the truth from what's real, what's fake.
Because I was actually talking to Andrew about this before we went on live.
And he was like, a lot of these files and a lot of these things out here, like it's almost possible that some of these things are so crazy that they could be mixing in false facts, right?
Like it's not that crazy.
But at the same time, there's also truth mixed in.
And then, you know, the Podesta brothers are friends with the person that the serial diddler and they're involved in emails and they're referenced in the Epstein file.
And then, you know, but Rex, of course, remember, just because your names are on, just because your name is in the Epstein files doesn't mean that you're complicit with all the rest of the stuff.
In a leaked email, Jeffrey Epstein discussed genetically engineering black people to make them smarter, discussing how whites had an evolutionary pressure that rewarded long-term thinking over rapid muscle development.
From Josea Bach to Jeffrey Epstein, RE mechanisms for learning, importance high.
Some thoughts I meant to send back for a long time.
And this is Epstein, I guess, in the bottom.
No worry if I can tell by how badly it's typed.
If I understand correctly, you were suggesting there are layers I threw in.
Let's call them L1 L N. There are times T1 TN.
And then conjuncture changing the time correlations by genetic switch or other message.
You might be able to make blacks smarter by changing the time for motor layer development and changing the time for other layers, like telomeres for the cell.
This is retarded.
Like the telomeres in part of DNA.
Are there equivalents for the layers?
As you talked about, calling the unused neurons in each layer.
Each neuron in each layer would get different.
Kill yourself if you're not being used instructions.
Because the low-level structures are optimized for a shorter time.
They will keep the lead in motor development because it is easier to learn and they have more time and attention to practice once they get the structures in place.
It's all mumbo jumbo.
It could also be they have an additional set of learning directives in place that adapts them better to a more hunting, running style of life.
So like this, this is all this, this is all brain rot brain damage.
So what it is in reality is humans have different actin 3 profile, which is like fast Twitch versus slow Twitch muscle thing.
So like people live in Asia, they're primarily XX.
People that live in Europe primarily RX.
And then people that live in Africa primarily are R. All it is is fast Twitch versus slow Twitch.
You can have an Israeli and a, I've literally been in meetings where there's like a guy who's Israeli and then another guy who's literally Like Arab, and like they're sitting there having a conversation trying to make something happen, making a deal, and like that's making a deal.
And the racial stuff is a divide and conquer narrative for the broke people.
100%.
It's just a sports team thing.
We talk about that a lot in the gray area.
But, you know, these people, these quote-unquote masterminds, these so-called elites, they have all these ideas of how they should run your life and how they should genetically modify people.
He's a 27-year-old political organizer, Bronx native, and candidate for New York's 15th congressional district.
Raised right here in the borough.
He got his start in activism as a teenager with the international youth movement, inspired by Lyndon LaRoche, organizing programs that focused on science, classical education, and building a better future for young people.
No stranger to taking on tough conversations.
He has directly confronted figures across the political spectrum, including Congressman Richie Torres, AOC, Mike Pompeo, Kamala Harris, Cabal Harris, and others on issues like endless wars, foreign aid priorities, economic neglect in the Bronx, and the failures of the two-party system.
We love that.
And in 2024, you ran as an independent against Torres and New York District 15, drawing attention to these concerns.
Now you're back in 2026.
You're also running to end the cycle of forever wars, financial bailouts, and misplaced priorities.
And you're calling for the U.S. to reclaim its best traditions.
Well, for one, of course, you know, you have to look beyond just Trump.
I think there's a sort of problem here because if you put everything on just Trump, you obfuscate everybody else involved.
I think that there's a very big problem there, right?
You know, it's the sort of names that haven't been uncovered yet that are probably more important than the people who are in the sunlight as opposed to people who like to lurk in the shadows, right?
I mean, you know, I know there's 3 million documents, and even then, that's still not completely released yet, right?
But you will probably see people like IDF generals.
I honestly believe this.
You'll see people even in our own military, you know, names that people may not initially know in the beginning.
Like, oh, we'll just put a pin on that.
We'll come back to that.
Turns out that guy is like some major donor to somebody or, you know, some mover and shaker for some, you know, big NGO group or something.
And it's going to be really bad.
I think it was Thomas Massey who said on the Jimmy Door show that some of the people who are on the list are people who own grants in their names, you know, who have names on their buildings and stuff, right?
See, that's the sort of damage that is about to be done right now.
And it's people have to prepare for it.
Now, if you just only focus on Trump, you're going to miss.
You're going to miss a lot of that because the important part of this is you can't look at this as a partisan issue.
You just cannot.
And everybody's already doing that, right?
Like you've got the Republicans saying this is Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton.
You've got the Democrats saying Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Hey, whoa, let's push the scope out a little bit more here.
You know, this ain't a left or right thing.
You know, there are pedophiles running our government right now.
Should you know, you know, we should be addressing that, yeah.
You got people like Prince Andrews in there, you've got other people, Russian diplomats, and those are things that we'll be covering later on to expose those people as well.
But, you know, question for you: you know, you're running for office, and what is it like, honestly, truly, like running for something so like public, you know, and you're 27, you're my age, man.
Like, well, you know, it's um, it's interesting because I didn't come up the traditional political way where you get corrupted, right?
I didn't join a community board, I didn't work for a city councilman, I didn't run for like you know, city council, state assembly.
You work your way up, right?
I didn't even finish college, you know, I dropped out of college, right?
So I went very much the non-traditional way.
And what I'm doing here in New York is I'm running in both the DEM primary and as an independent, particularly because I'm trying to completely take advantage of every single avenue available to me.
And I mean, is it taxing on your mind?
Yeah, absolutely it is.
You know, in fact, like I've started my routine up again.
I get up in the morning, I swim.
You know, I got to make sure I'm taking care of myself first now.
And then, you know, to be able to have the fortitude to go up against these ghouls who are now calling me anti-Semitic, by the way.
You know, a lot of people don't ever get to this point where your opposition, Richie Torres, who is one of the worst of the worst congressmen, I mean, like the entire Democratic progressive wing says they hate this guy.
You know, people, they, and I think he's like the Randy Fine of the Democratic Party, to put it simple.
Yeah, that's that's how bad he is.
And this, and the special thing about the district I'm running in is that it's the poorest congressional district in the entire country, in the entire country.
Well, yeah, partly because, well, I think it's that and also the fact that we actually did uncover some stuff.
Like in this district, you have the offices of a Israeli lobby group and they call themselves that.
I'm not making that up.
It's called NORPAC, N-O-R-P-A-C, that has offices here in the Bronx in Riverdale, you know, which is one of the, and that's, that's a, that's another thing they called me anti-Semitic for.
Because I said, in the poorest congressional district, you also have one of the richest neighborhoods in the Bronx in the United States, which is called Riverdale.
A lot of people don't associate Riverdale with the Bronx.
And I said, why is this wealth disparity?
And they said, oh, you're going after the Jews that live in the communities.
Like, I don't care who they are.
Why does one section of the district look like Beverly Hills and another place is one of the worst places in the United States?
You know, what is this income inequality?
So I started looking into the donors of the people who live in that part of the district.
And it's people like this guy, Jonathan Weiner, who owns many buildings in New York City.
He's rated as one of the worst landlords in all of New York City.
He's a major contributor to Richie Torres, my opponent.
So, you know, it's the fact that, yeah, he is supported by AIPAC.
He's also supported by some of the worst elements, probably in Tel Aviv.
I'm talking about a guy who personally met with Joaf Galant in 2024, shook his hand, bent down over.
But, you know, I don't play this guilt by association game.
Right.
And that's partly because of my association with LaRouche.
You know, and the funny thing is, the person that asked about LaRouche is your dad, because your dad not only interviewed Lynn in 2006, but your dad famously called Lyndon LaRouche the godfather of conspiracy theory.
I mean, I think that's a mischaracterization, but I would be interested.
Oh, dude, listen, I got involved in the mid-2010s with the LaRouche organization, not knowing the 50-year history that already existed there.
And I mean, like, you know, Lyndon LaRouche was like completely prolific, I think, in a lot of his predictions and a lot of his economic forecasting.
That's what he was, an economic forecaster.
And, you know, when 2000, when 9-11 happened, he was on a radio show being interviewed.
And, you know, he got the news live on air.
And like the guy telling him, Jack Stock was like, hey, you know, the planes just collapsed into the towers.
He goes, oh, they're going to try to blame Osama bin Laden on this.
Don't let him do that.
Like he pinned down, you know, the moment of, he was predicting that something was going to happen in the year 2001.
Because in 2001, he was saying, look, there's going to be some kind of Reichstag fire, which is what I was talking about on due dis that the Bush administration needs in order to get itself executive power so that they can do things like what would happen, which is with the Patriot Act.
But nah, man, LaRouche was like, I think, revolutionary.
You know, he had worked with all kinds of people.
He had traveled around the world working with people like Indira Gandhi and others and Indira Gandhi, Jose Lopez Portillo in Mexico and the Reagan administration.
And that's probably the biggest claim to fame was that he was working with the Reagan administration to get this sort of beam defense system on the dome.
Not a dome, but I forgot what the name of it was.
Jesus Christ, I did a whole thing on this.
Now I'm forgetting.
But the idea was to use a laser defense system to go after nuclear bombs.
And Reagan actually put this in a speech in what's now dubbed the Star Wars speech.
And the thing is, Lyndon LaRouche back in the late 1980s, 86, 87, 88, the George H. Bush, George H. Bush personally starts coming after Lyndon LaRouche.
Henry Kissinger sends a letter to the FBI, a very famous letter where he says, Hey, you know, director of FBI, I forget the name.
Dear Bill, it was great hanging out with you at the Grove.
And he's referring to Bohemian Grove.
It was great hanging out with you at the Grove.
We need to do something about this Lyndon LaRouche guy, you know.
And so it's completely wild.
But ultimately, what attracted me to the organization was that it wasn't just like, you know, telling the truth or conspiracy theory talk.
It was like, no, like we can actually have a vision for a better future.
And now, Helgatzep LaRouche, you know, his wife, yeah, he died back in 2019, but his wife is keeping it up with what she's called the OASIS plan, where she's gotten people like Dr. Naledi Pondor, who was the former South African foreign minister, you know, who brought the case against Israel to the ICJ, you know, as one of these people who comes on, you know, her initiative called the International Peace Coalition.
And we have former heads of state now and other people saying this is what policy should be.
No, it's totally wild, you know.
And that's my association from being 16 years, 15, 16 years old, joining this group in 2014 or so when they were putting the mustache on Obama, calling him Hitler.
You know, I was of a similar age, you know, hanging around, you know, kind of a media office, a political office.
It was a political office.
And, you know, I learned a lot during that time about kind of how the machine works.
It really is a rough ecosystem, man.
Like whatever side you're looking at, politics or media, it's really two sides of the same coin.
Media being downstream of the politics, of course.
But having that exposure, is that the thing that made you want to be like, okay, not only am I going to do like man on the street, like confrontational stuff with these people, but I'm going to run for office?
And so then people start, you know, really getting involved with Palestine and Gaza and stuff.
Right.
And, you know, at that point, like it comes out that my congressman, Richie Torres, the poorest, you know, the congressman of the poorest congressional district in the country, he says the word Israel in Congress 236% more times than he does the Bronx.
You know, you think about it.
This guy is a total loser, basically.
And he's one of the most well-funded Israeli-bought politicians.
And so I decided, you know what?
Back then, I ran the first time completely as an independent, not doing anything.
You know, my hair wasn't as clean cut as it is now.
It was, I had a big bushy afro and, you know, I was living out of my car.
And I was like, I'm going to do it because it's the right thing to do.
You know, somebody's got to challenge this guy.
And now this year, you know, I decided, well, you know what?
I got to do something different.
I got to, I got to really up the stakes.
People really want this guy out.
They say they do.
People are telling me I should run in the Democratic primary.
Okay, but I'm not going to kiss up to Hakeem Jeffries.
I'm not kissing up to even to the progressive wing, you know, who've sold out a lot of the pro-Palestine causes.
Now, I'm doing this because this is another form.
It's an elevation of the disruptions, of the confrontations, the interventions that I'm doing.
And I decided, you know what?
Here we are.
Let's do it.
And I mean, as a result, like it's one thing if you're a political commentator and or you're just a podcaster or even if you're just an activist, right?
But now we're at the point where we're challenging power.
And I think the fact that we have these articles being printed on us shows that, oh my God, we could actually win this thing in June.
And they are afraid of that because they are, I am not the kind of person they want with a D next to their name because I don't care who you are, Republican, Democrat.
I'm going to call you a loser.
Okay.
Hakeem Jeffries is a loser.
Chuck Schumer is a loser.
Mike Johnson's a loser.
You know, they all need to go and be replaced.
And what I just said, they do not want me saying that in the Congress because you know why?
Most Americans feel this way now.
Yes.
And so they don't want that energy because I don't play the left-right game.
Most of these guys are bought and controlled by intelligence operatives too.
When you are talking to a congressman, 99% of the time, you are talking to a handler.
Okay.
I mean, like you're talking to a pre-programmed script.
You know, that's why they try to avoid doing town halls.
You know, I don't know when the last time is a congressman held a town hall, but yeah, let me tell you something.
One of the things that pushed me to do the Democratic primary was because I was very staunch.
I was very pragmatic.
I was like, I'm doing independent.
I'm going independent.
And I met this woman as we were outside.
It was, you know, fall.
It was still warm enough to be out talking to people.
And this woman is like, you know, this.
She's like on the verge.
She, you know, she's going to work.
She's a nurse.
I would find out she's a nurse.
And she sees one of our signs.
One of our signs was like, you know, Putin didn't start this war.
Let's end, but let's end it.
You know, very provocative, right?
Because like, you know, I'm very much, I have my opinions about the war in Ukraine.
I don't think it started on February 2022.
You know, Victoria Newland was one of the people responsible.
Anyway, I'm talking to her and, you know, she's like getting angry with me at first, you know.
But then she's like, she like just starts like freaking out, saying like, oh, all these wars, all these damn wars, you know, I get paid this much money and I know most of that money goes to my daughter's private school and I got to pay my car tax and I got to do this, this, this, and this.
And she said, if we just elected more Democrats, things would be good.
And I looked at her in her eyes and I said, ma'am, the person who is representing you is a Democrat.
And that person is taking your taxpayer money and is giving it to Israel where they have free health care and they are bombing children the same age as your daughter.
And I said, that's a Democrat who's doing that.
And she started to cry.
She started to break down in tears.
And she's like, I don't know what to do.
I don't know if we're ever going to fix this.
And I started to cry too, because I didn't know what do you do in that situation.
Like, you know, we're very critical of the right all the time.
I mean, Rex was very right-leaning at one point.
I leaned a little bit more center-right.
Now I've kind of come back to like center-center.
Yeah, just because of all the wildness that's happened in this current administration.
But for you, because we don't always have Democrats on this show, and we're trying to bring more people who are left-leaning folks that have that's a better, yeah, it's a better, because I have this gag where I keep telling people I'm a Democrat now and I'm like about to throw up.
So, like, what do you feel like some of the things that, you know, the, let's say, Democrats or left-leaning are getting, you know, wrong and some of the things that they might be getting right that the right it might be incorrect on?
Because there's always things that like you're going to agree, disagree with.
But I'm very curious on like not being in an echo chamber, what's some of the things that you're hearing or that you see or personally believe on these things.
Oh, well, first, I wouldn't also try to classify myself as left or right.
I try not to, even though I'm very much sort of closer aligned to like the do dissidents guys.
You know, they admit they're a little more left-leaning, but I try to stay out of that paradigm altogether.
But here's something, like, for example, on ICE and immigration as a whole.
The problem with ICE and immigration has nothing to do with how you feel about illegal immigration, whether or not you think immigrants should be coming in or not.
ICE was created as an extension of the DHS, which is an extension of the Patriot Act.
You are doing by cheering on the mass deportation of immigrants through masked men coming in here and just terrorizing indiscriminately a lot of people.
You are allowing the federal government to expand its powers on surveillance.
You are giving Palantir.
Why the fuck does Palantir have my personal data?
Why does it have my pictures and my health data?
That is insane.
And I never consented to that.
And that is something that I think a lot of people who call themselves right wing, when I talk to them about immigration from that standpoint, well, it's like, oh, well, yeah, they get it.
Because a lot of these people are not for the Patriot Act.
They were probably denouncing the Patriot Act when it first happened or when it was first enacted and passed.
And so, you know, I think it's, I think that's definitely one big one right there.
The other one, of course, is, you know, Gaza.
I mean, I've seen a sort of, you know, I know the last statistic I saw was something like 40% of Republicans under the age of 40 do not support the United States giving money to Israel.
And one of the ways that they, you know, people don't think about this, right?
It was reported back in December that Netanyahu was investing $600 billion, was it?
Or $600 million into Hasbara, into their propaganda, into their, you know, buying up their influence.
So it's like, okay, if they're investing this much money into, you know, the propaganda war, I'm supposed to believe that, you know, the Somali issue is organic or something.
No, it's being done to distract people because they know they're not going to win the propaganda war anymore.
They know they're not going to get people to like Israel.
I think all the stuff that was happening in Minnesota, and I've said this openly, I said Minnesota is kind of just in the crosshairs of an issue, a larger issue.
If you can see, like the Trump has kind of taken a little bit of a softer tone, as well as the federal government is trying to signal, hey, you know, we're on your side, guys.
And the thing is, they posted that video a few days ago of like Pareti kicking out the taillight or whatever.
He's not doing that when he gets shot.
That's right.
It's like, oh, but he's a, you, you, you support the left, huh?
And it's like, well, I don't like American citizens being killed by federal agents with guns, something Ron Paul was against from the very start.
That's my political education.
I'm sorry I didn't discover politics five years ago.
And I follow everything Trump says.
Like, I have a background in these things.
And when you learned about the Patriot Act at a young age, when you learned about FEMA at a young age and, you know, Agenda 21 and 2030 and all the things that they want to do, and really like the robots are the infrastructure for that, and that's coming.
Like, I'm against this.
So, I'm not pro-administration and having to, you know, sweep things under the rug for the administration.
I've left the administration behind.
I voted for him twice.
I can't believe I did.
And I did it because I thought he would end the wars.
You know, the Due Dissidence guys did a good documentary on me.
I was kind of afraid when they did it.
But like, I go through that sort of political journey.
The first time I could vote was 2016 when I turned 18 years old.
And the reason I gave my vote to Trump wasn't because I was like some MAGA wearing, you know, it was because of how the Democratic Party treated Bernie Sanders.
Hillary Clinton conspired with the party to steal Bernie Sanders' vote.
You know, and Bernie Sanders, what does he do?
He turns around and he bends over for Hillary Clinton and says, no, we have, we have to endorse Hillary Clinton.
You know, it's like, come on, Bernie, have some, yeah, you know, have some, have some balls, you know, stand out for yourself.
This party just stole your vote.
And now you're just, what?
You're just going to bend over for the same party that messed you up and, you know, over.
And so I voted for Trump that first time because it was a big fuck you to the establishment.
That's what I thought it was, you know, and it's kind of similar to you too.
You know, I mean, especially in my teen years and being associated with the group I was, you know, learning about the Patriot Act, learning about growing up in a post-9-11 environment, like you and I, all three of us actually are part of a generation that is now being raised in a post-9-11 world, you know, one where in the world before that is alien to us.
So, you know, it was, it was to become like, I mean, the first time I ever denounced a politician was actually, I mean, the fame, the one that I'm, I'm sort of got my first notoriety for was going after Kamala Harris.
2021, I confronted her then, you know, because she was coming to the Bronx to talk about the Build Back Better Plan.
But we had just had a superstorm that killed seven people who were living in basement apartments.
And it could have been prevented if we had the infrastructure that Carter was talking about back in the 1970s.
And so that was like, that was my sort of like final nail in the coffin of like, you know what?
I want to go to the clip, but you talked about, you know, being associated with an organization and people judge that organization.
Ultimately, a lot of people have had things to say about InfoWars over the years.
And I would point out and I would go, look, it's not a perfect operation.
You can find flaws.
You can find issues.
And hey, like, we got sued.
It is what it is.
At the end of the day, Alex put in about 32 years of work and he kind of created a media atmosphere that was permissive and friendly to other independent journalists.
And he really, he walked so others could run is really my view on the situation.
He really did have a legendary prime.
And I still a lot of respect for him.
And even though we disagree on a lot now, I mean, like, I hear him get compared to Chank Uger.
And Chank Uger got hundreds of millions or tens of millions of dollars.
We never got sent a dime by anybody.
And like we sold products and people call a snake oil salesman.
I say you go to Whole Foods, whatever.
People wanted to support the operation, so they supported it.
So I just wanted to say, like, I, I, I, I, you talk about your old place, I got to rep mine a little bit.
Oh, no, I was just saying, this is this, I agree with what you're saying.
I completely, you know, and, and, like, I, uh, I, I remember my high school teacher, you know, turning is sitting me down, turning her laptop towards me, saying, I think you might be an occult.
And I was like, I've read that stuff that you're reading, and my experience is not that at all.
You know, these people taught me, you know, about why we have mass surveillance to begin with.
You know, they were denouncing Obama before it was cool to denounce Obama.
It's like you say, where like they have an agent handler, whatever you want to call them, they have like a chief of staff or whatever, blah, blah, blah, publicist.
Like these, these politicos, every message you see, like there are, I forget, I'm politically ignorant.
I should, I should know how many people are in Congress, but there's like 500 or 400 something people in Congress, and literally all of them are complete bots.
And the Bronx should fucking have it because every human being should have the right to go and look at the stars, even once in their life, to go see what's out there because we're all part of that.
If you talk about real societal change or policy, and we notice this on the left and on the right, if you don't conform to the party politic, whether that's Trump or that's like the Democrat Party ethos, you could point at the Republicans and say, look, Trump won.
He took over the party.
The populists won or whatever.
And you look at the Democratic Party, say, Bernie lost, and it's been Hillary, Biden, and then Biden again.
This is what they wanted to do.
And then Kamala.
Ultimately, Trump was given what I call the Reagan deal, where they go, look, here's the thing.
You, you got in the second time or third time or whatever.
It is what it is.
We'll act, we'll let you remake the party in your own image, but ultimately you still work for us and it's still the sports team.
And rather than address and talk about those nuances, people just shame you.
They basically say, well, you know what?
I don't agree with any of what you just said because I have to be part of this uni party and explain that.
And I find myself censoring myself in real time sometimes because I'm scared what somebody's going to take, let's say, 10 years from now and be like, oh, this was you.
And like, that's the control grid that's being built around us, man.
It's like, you know, you look at a time before the internet, those people were really lucky.
They're really lucky to live in that time, even though they didn't have the information, even though things were controlled when you went to everything.
It was a corporate source.
There was an era of freedom that we have like, you know, when you eat an ice cream cone and it's gone, but you still have the flavor in your mouth.
That was the 2000s.
You know, and you kind of remember that essence of how the world was just, it was just a little bit different.
People were a little nicer to each other.
There wasn't this intense, really racial politic.
Things were really more around like class lines, right?
Like high taxes, low taxes, even though it was controlled.
You know, one of my favorite poems by Emily Dickinson is the one called Hope.
You know, hope is the thing with feathers, which perches upon the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all.
And I like that a lot because even if you can't hear it, it's still singing.
It's still there.
You know, it sings the tune without the words.
You can't really put words on what hope is, but it's still there, you know.
And so that to me is like, I got to make sure that other people, you know, know that somebody is trying to fight for them and that they can then stand up and fight with me.
You know, and that's why we're getting the attacks we're getting.
And, you know, I put out a documentary with my friend Kynan called Victoria Newland, The Making of a Psychopath.
You know, her dad had shock therapy to deal with the fact that her mother was bipolar and was abusive.
And not only that, but Victoria Newland went to a private school where there was a lot of sexual misconduct going on, even around the year she was active in the school.
And then she goes right into the foreign volunteer service, you know, and that's how she sort of became bought and corrupted right there.
Like she was basically manufactured from her psychological profile from high school to college to just becoming a tool for the intelligence agency.
So I'm giving this guy all this stuff.
And then he just storms out.
He's like, you drink too much Putin Kool-Aid.
And he's some like small-time influencer in the district, but it's like, no, people need to know where I stand.
And you know what?
I'm not afraid to disagree with my constituents.
You know why?
Because it's not my job to be complacent with people.
It's my job to present why I think what I think.
Even though 95% of people think something and that's factually wrong, I'm not going to conform with the 95% just because the majority thinks it.
One other thing is, is that like we've talked about on many an episode, and we do these deep dives, and we specifically covered Russia probably like two weeks ago.
And the worst part is like the, you know, it is true, the victors write the history, essentially.
And, you know, people want to talk about how Russia invaded Ukraine, bad guy, bad guy, bad guy.
But then they don't go back to the 90s when like, you know, Soviet Union breaks apart.
They're basically belly up and they're like, United States, do what you will to us.
Just help us.
Like, we want to integrate.
And they're like, all right, shock therapy, sell all the assets to the Russian billionaires so that seven people control 50% and you can't afford bread.
And that's because United States, somebody had the bright idea to be like, well, we can't gradually expose them to capitalism.
We just have to just shock them into it and they'll figure it out.
And that's American foreign policy is like how hard we decide to grape you.
And it's very, very sad.
It really, it really truly is.
A lot of the time on the show, we talk about the Star Wars story.
And that's like whenever you got the rebel alliance is fighting against the evil empire and there's there's no way for them to win unless they shoot the torpedo down the reaction uh Reactor stack, and Zelensky's the guy that's piloting the X-Wing.
You got to support him forever.
And it's like, well, it doesn't work that way in the real world.
In the real world, you have people with interests, and those people have interests that oppose each other.
So you can talk about Russia, you can talk about Ukraine.
Ultimately, there's not one side that is like, you know, a knight in shining armor in any respect.
He knows if he got voted out, a new guy will come in and he'll give up Crimea.
There's a group of individuals that don't want to give up their regions that are currently being fought over and don't want to freeze the lines at where they're at because somebody's losing and somebody has a gun to the back of his head and say, you know what?
You better make sure that that doesn't happen.
And it's creating this monster situation to where like no one can win and the Russians know we just had to play true.
I, and like, I, um, uh, sorry, I'm just sending a text that no, you're all good.
But no, I think it's um, it's uh, uh, just absolutely insane what we've done to Ukraine, you know, for decades, honestly, because it goes even before, you know, what we did in 2014, you know, which is setting the stage.
A lot of people don't even know about the racist neo-Nazi past that Ukraine.
You know, like, why is it that they worship that guy, uh, Bandera?
You know, why are many streets named after Bandera, right?
You know, the guy that they ousted, Yanukovych, was trying to pass a law to repeal, you know, Bandera Day.
That was part of the propaganda they used to get the guy out.
It's like, oh, this guy doesn't like your national hero, Stefan Bandera.
And anyway, yeah, we could, we could beat the whole one more thing.
You know, April 2022, a peace proposal is done.
We could be done with this war.
What happened?
Bojo, the fucking clown, goes over there and he says, you know what?
No, let's not.
Let's, let's, let's not.
You can, you can, you can.
That's my Trump.
That's not my Boris.
You can beat the Russians.
You can beat the Russians.
They can be beaten.
But no, Boris Johnson goes over there and he says, no, we can beat the Russians.
Like they don't, they don't, it's not like the degree doesn't make you smart.
Just actually understanding like how things work outside of like a classroom setting, or the fact that a lot of that power is passed down, or they're part of like families that are like integrated into society.
But you seem to be like more in touch with society as well as understanding the history and the context.
Well, I course I credited to being associated with the LaRouche organization, not just them.
I mean, you know, I love Max Blumenthal.
He was confronting people like this one journalist who brought Andre Perubi to testify on some government.
And, you know, I mean, I've been keeping up with the Gray Zone also since they were first founded.
And also, like, to be able to see Max at these events too is also pretty cool because, you know, being a teenager and like seeing the stuff that he was doing and just becoming a fan was cool.
But yeah, people like the Grey Zone and Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, Kate Piranberg, also, you know, these people have really sort of kept me informed as to what's going on.
And I also have a big belief that education and culture have to play a very big role in your statesman.
John Quincy Adams, you know, that guy knew so many languages.
You know, he was like a polymath, like him, Ben Franklin, and other people knew so much about different subjects.
And all of that contributed to them being great statesmen.
I literally say that all the time when I talk to my friends.
It's like being well-versed and being exposed to different things allows you to make better policy.
If you grew up with a silver spoon and you were only around one demographic your entire life, of course you wouldn't sit there and believe that there are people struggling in certain neighborhoods, that this needs a little more investment.
Yeah, exactly.
It wouldn't occur to you that you might need to pass out some legislation.
Dare I say it, but I'm up like Trump was born into like a billionaire family.
Like why I've never ascribed ever since I confronted AOC too, that really put the nail in the coffin because I believed in AOC.
That's the other irony of this.
You know, like when she first got elected, I thought, hey, maybe.
And when she first got elected, there was something that was sort of a pivotal moment in my life where I was living in a basement apartment with my mother and grandfather.
I was 19 years old, and the ceiling had pooled sewage water from the upstairs tenants.
And then it all just came crashing down.
It would keep crashing down.
I call my landlord and he's like, man, what do you want me to do?
So I go to the city council.
I go get the media.
Media does a story.
To this day, if you Google Morris Heights Apartment in Shambles, you'll see me there, 19 years old, looking the clip.
Well, actually, it goes even before her support for the war in Ukraine, but like one of the things she said she was going to do along with the other progressive squad members was withhold her vote for the speaker of the house, which at the time was Nancy Pelosi.
And she said, I'm going to withhold my vote for Nancy Pelosi unless she agrees to bring Medicare for all onto the House floor.
For people who don't know how government politics work, basically, you can be any congressman.
You can write any bill you want.
It doesn't fucking matter if the speaker of the house won't bring it to the floor, right?
So like right now, the speaker of the floor of the house is Mike Johnson, right?
I could write the best piece of legislation in the world.
And if Mike Johnson won't bring it to the floor to be voted, it just won't be.
So she said, I'm going to do that to Nancy Pelosi.
If she doesn't bring this to the floor, I'm not going to vote for her to be the Speaker of the House.
And then it was the fact that she supported the war in Ukraine, became a tool of the military establishment, despite the fact that she knows or said she knows about CIA infiltration and went on Glenn Greenwald's show talking about how she was going to, how she was going to, oh, shit.
Jose Vega sending the cell phone video to News 12 of the aftermath of his ceiling dropping onto the floor, causing his Morris Heights basement apartment to become an unsanitary mess.
He says he called his landlord multiple times and tell him about the gaping hole in the ceiling and the water him and his mother have had to mop out the door.
He told my mother, Hey, if you want, I can rip up the lease we just signed a week ago and just get your things out and leave within these three days and I'll completely forget all about it.
I didn't want to do that because he was subjecting us and treating us like animals as if we were just worthless and that he was just going to kick us out.
It got worse because the next day, I'm going to, I'm going back to the apartment.
So my mom and I had moved.
We didn't move out, but we basically went, like, I temporarily moved in with my sister.
We couldn't stay there.
We just couldn't stay there.
So she went to go live with my uncle.
I went to go live with my sister in the meanwhile.
And I'm going to that apartment every day.
I come back.
The locks have been changed.
No.
And that's illegal.
Right.
So I call the lawyer.
Lawyer's like, you got to slam dunk, call the police, call the police.
Police is like, well, your mom's name's on the lease.
Can you give her a call?
I call my mom.
My mom's like, no, I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
And so I call my mom back and I'm in tears because the police are like, listen, kid, like, we don't know what the hell you're doing.
We don't even believe that you live here.
And the super, the landlord's lackey comes out and starts denouncing me as a squatter, saying like, we changed the locks because this guy's a squatter and we don't want him here.
Turns out the city councilman had the chief of staff call my mom the night before the landlord changed the lock and said, if your son goes through with this lawsuit, no landlord in New York City will ever rent to your son again.
Just and, you know, like the it was one of these things where I was like, fuck the local city, the whole government is complicit in keeping the Bronx poor as it is.
The guy who owns the building, he can easily be part of any number of organizations in terms of like they have real estate organizations in which like landlords know each other.
And for you to own a whole building in New York, by the way, you got something to play with, or you've inherited it from a very long time, but you are part of the system.
Guarantee you, that guy started making calls the moment that went onto the news.
And at that point, I mean, the guy you were talking to, I forget, yeah, the councilman, he got pressure from somebody else.
And it just trickled down, and it was just pressure, pressure, pressure, because somebody up high said, if you let this go, it's going to create a mess for the rest of people because they see one guy get away with this.
They all could get away with this.
And then we have lawsuits after lawsuits.
And you don't want to be responsible for messing up New York's housing system, do you?
That's the thing is no matter whether you go local level, state level, or federal level, it all operates off that way.
It operates off bureaucracy.
It operates off people that are appointed to positions or appointed to inheriting a building or whatnot.
So you're a part of the XYZ community that other people can't get into.
And that's what Americans are sick of.
And I think that's why you and other independent candidates are really shining out there left and right, whatever dimension of politic you want to say.
I think that's why people like you are surging right now.
I wanted to know when you were gone on the break, me and Tim discussed this a little bit.
I wanted to know what one man can do.
What can one man do?
Like we look at Massey, we look at a lot of the effects that he's had, you know, speaking truth to power on a lot of things.
Even if you disagree with some of his policies, he's a guy that even though he doesn't have his party's support, he's making a lot of things happen.
He still shows me that the exit card that they gave him, you know, and he looks like a much skinnier version of me, you know.
And so he came to this country as an illegal immigrant.
And we come from nothing.
Growing up in the Bronx, I come from nothing, you know, and yet, like, I don't know how I've gotten to the places I've gotten to, but it's like the first thing I want to tell people, it's like things can be done.
And it's not the same linear path for everybody, but I want people to know that like you can do something.
Like it is possible.
It is possible.
Like if I, who just came from nothing, can you know be on the podcast with you guys or do dissonance with Jimmy Dore, you know?
You know, and like to be met with the crowd of booze, like cows of the liberal audience.
But, you know, like, and that video went like stupid viral, you know, because it wasn't just denouncing her.
It was also the fact that I have an intention behind this.
And I think that anybody else, you know, you shouldn't think of yourself as just one person because if you stand up, you will find other people will start standing up because you stood up too.
You know, and if you only inspire two or three other people, you don't know how many people those two or three other people are also going to inspire as well.
It only works if other people decide to stand up too.
We like to have fun here, but I think that's a great message.
I think that's phenomenal for people to hear.
I want to see real change, and I think real change starts at like local or state level politic or people running for Congress, you know, things that are achievable.
And I really do believe it is achievable to win, especially when you have such a great disparity in that district and such really a great disparity in the messaging as well.
When Richie Torres is someone that advocates for death and is paid off by all these various groups, whereas you're independent, you're David trying to slay Goliath, and David does slay Goliath in the story.
Some of this stuff, you know, we might sound light at certain points just because there's only sometimes the only way to deal with it to get through it.
But there's some really serious stuff in which I have some things that I want to say and express about this whole Epstein and the people that are involved.
But like I've got, I've gone through the files.
I've gone through and tried to pull some of the, somebody said the dark dive.
I'm like, you are innocent until proven guilty in my mind until I have the evidence in front of me because it's very hard to get like pulled in different directions.
And some people have it right.
Sometimes it's a half-truth.
But when I went on the DOJ's website and I'm looking at these things for myself, I'm like, there's no other way for me to interpret it.
And you know, I will get really serious about this at a certain point because there's really things in here that like there's no way to lie.
I don't even know if we're going to read it, some of the stuff when it gets to the Trump stuff, but like, I'm even just, it feels heavy to even read that stuff out loud for people.
I think he's talking about the Epstein footage of like a side shot of like the staircase below the staircase and then the one minute missing at midnight where there's a guy that actually walks through.
That's exhibit A of gaslighting.
Can we pull up exhibit B of Pam Bondi also gaslighting us as the public?
Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Mar-a-Lago called Calendar Girls.
Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in, and Trump would auction them off.
He measured the children's blank and blank by entering a finger and then rated the children on blank.
The guests were elder men and included Elon Musk, Don Jr., Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump.
Attorney Alan Dershowitz was also there with attorney Bob Shapiro.
We were taken in rooms, forced to give oral blank to Donald J. Trump, forced to allow them to grape us.
I was 13 years old when Donald Trump graped me.
Ghislaine Maxwell was also present.
So wow, let's go to the next slide.
We'll go ahead and read these off so people can get a taste of these accusations.
Blank reported an unidentified female friend who was forced to perform oral sex on President Trump approximately 35 years ago in New Jersey.
The friend told Alexis that she was approximately 13, 14 years old when this occurred, and the friend allegedly bit President Trump while performing oral blank.
The friend was allegedly hit in the face after she laughed about biting President Trump.
The friend said she was also abused by Epstein.
This is another victim on the bottom.
Blank reported she has a friend blank who was a personal assistant to Epstein in Florida from 1986 until 1991 or 1992.
This friend shared names of some of the guests at Epstein's parties to include Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
At age 16, while modeling, Caller attended eight parties at Epstein's New York residence.
On one occasion, Caller reported that she was sexually assaulted by Epstein.
On another occasion, two twin brothers, Alan and Oren, lured Caller and her friend upstairs, but they escaped back downstairs.
Caller stated Oren blanked her best friend and a third brother, Tal, blanked a 14-year-old girl named Blank.
Caller named other individuals involved in quote-unquote big orgy parties with other young girls and older Victoria secret models, including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
Online complainant reported that she was a victim and witness to sex trafficking ring at Trump Golf Course in Rancho Palace Verdes, California between 1995, 1996.
Complainant reported Ghislaine Maxwell as the madam and broker for sex parties, clients of whom included Epstein, Robert Leach, and Donald Trump.
Complainant reported participating in orgies and that some of the girls went missing, remember to have been blanked and blanked at the facility buried.
Complainant reported being threatened by Trump and then head of security that she ever talked of what went on there or who she saw.
He would end up as fertilizer for the back nine holes like the other blanks.
I'll give the people and be like, all right, maybe these might be false, but there's things that aren't that are not false.
When we go into a direct email, we're going to get into direct email.
I was going to save this one, but I think right now, since we're already covering this, Andrew, can you please pull up the following email right here highlighted that I have highlighted?
It says on 7-14, 2016 at 2.16 Eastern Standard Time.
That part's redacted in between.
You got this very first one.
So let's go ahead and go to the other one real quick, Andrew.
And let me pull this up too because I need to see.
Okay.
So now it tells you cellular telephone number.
They actually redact the name, but it says office address in Princeton, New Jersey, 08542.
Like, how stupid can you be when you're releasing these files and realize we're uploading the same document and some of them are redacted and some of them are unredacted?
But I'm going to focus on this one that's less redacted here.
And we're going to go and show exactly what's happening with Trump.
Because if you don't believe the first one, this one you probably should believe.
Blank cellular telephone number, blank office address located in Princeton, New Jersey, 08542.
Home address located in Lawrence Township, New Jersey, 08648.
Attorney DeJane Doe contacted the public access line to report the sexual exploitation and rape of a grape of a blank of 13 years of age by Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein case number, blah, blah, blah.
Blank stated that his client, Jane Doe, was enticed to cross state lines to visit with Epstein and Trump to perform blank acts on both adult men at special parties hosted by Epstein.
Doe was told that this was to further her modeling career and something that she had to do during the summer of 1994.
After her seventh grade school year ended, damn, Doe took a three-year or three-day bus trip from his father, from her father's home in the Midwest under the pretense that she'd be visiting her grandmother.
Doe traveled instead of New York City, New York, in order to start a modeling career.
Doe was initially turned down and asked to return with a portfolio at a later time while waiting for her bus home.
Doe was approached by blank, referred to hereafter as blank, and was urged to return to attend a party hosted by Epstein.
During the first party, Doe was asked to strip down to her underwear and give a massage to Epstein, asked by Epstein to do great acts, but she refused.
Doe was later asked to massage the blank of Epstein's guest, Trump, with her hand.
Doe was told that this was what she had to do in order to get a job, and she complied.
During the second party, Doe was asked to perform oral blank on Trump and complied.
During the third party, Doe was made to perform oral blank on Trump with another young girl named Blank.
During the fourth visit, Doe was blanked by Trump vaginally.
It's hard.
Penetrating blah, blah, with blah, blah, blah.
Epstein was angry that Trump was the one to take blah blah's virginity and went on to grape Doe by it's just so horrible.
While I was reading this and I read line for line, I just like it's not even hard for anyone or even myself to believe that even remotely some of this is true.
It could very much be in plain sight for us to see that there is something in here that is completely accurate.
And maybe not every single detail is not accurate in this whole thing.
But there's nothing in my mind that does not convince me that there wasn't at least something, something of this manner in which you just see Trump was hypersexual.
Go look at some of his past videos and things when he's at pageants and the way he's like talking to the girls and some of the stuff.
I want to go to Rocket Man real quick because, you know, he was listed on this first set.
And it's very easy to say, like, okay, that's fine.
That's not true.
Elon, Rocket Man had nothing to do with this.
And we'll read the first one here, Andrew, on the first post that says, you know, him defending himself.
So I was too lame to Elon says about his involvement in the Epstein files in the past, right?
In an email, Elon Musk responded, I do not recall introducing Epstein to anyone, as I know the guy well enough to do so.
Epstein obviously is a creep.
And Zuckerberg is not a friend of mine.
Several years ago, I was in a house in Manhattan for about 30 minutes in the middle of the afternoon with Riley, and she was curious about this meeting with a strange person for a novel she was writing.
We did not see anything inappropriate at all, apart from the weird art.
And by the way, there was a part of the files when I was looking that was unredacted and it shows what Elon's X, it said, I'm sorry, Rocket Man's thing.
And it said from blank from SpaceX, right?
Like SpaceX, there was no misinterpretation to see where the email came from.
Whoever did messed up.
They royally messed up, right?
But then, you know, we see, let me see this real quick.
Ah, okay.
Okay.
Let's let's Andrew go down to number let's go down to number 10 the one that you've pulled up.
This is this is hard for me, man.
I genuinely, I'm not kidding with you guys.
I believed in like his crusade to like save humanity.
I actually thought that that was what was going on.
Nobody has fought harder for the full release of the Epicene files and prosecutions of those who abuse children more than I did, knowing full well that legacy media, far left propagandists, and those who are actually guilty would one, admit nothing, two, deny everything, three, make counter accusations against me.
I knew that I'd be smeared relentlessly despite never having attended his parties or being on the Lolita Express, which the Lolita Express.
I think we've covered this on a previous one.
That is like his private jet that all these people.
Like it's ultimately, it's treasonous behavior beyond anything because, of course, it's the grape crimes with the children and the human trafficking and the murder.
Obviously, the murder is talked about in multiple of the emails.
Beyond any of that, these are the people that run our country.
Dear Bill, dear Bill, I cannot believe that you have chosen to disregard our friendship developed over the last six years.
I'm aware that accidents happen.
It is how each of us has chosen to deal with this unfortunate event that has me dismayed beyond comprehension.
You have decided to discharge me from my job and had Larry, your PR person, tell me that I engaged in morally inappropriate behavior, asked me to be the major actor in a cover-up so that you can maintain the reputation you have worked so hard to achieve.
You asked me to recommit to a confidentiality agreement and you have categorically told me that we cannot have any direct ongoing business relationship.
In total agreement, and have categorically told me that we cannot have any direct ongoing business relationship and total disregard for its impact on the public perception of my reputation.
I will have to diligently avoid the truth, tell people that Bill will not invest with me and craft an answer that suits your needs, but you did not agree to send.
That's a great point, Tim, because it's like, what's the explanation for his horrible writing?
Maybe he's so angry every time he actually has to get on a computer and like do something.
He's like, you know, like smacking his hands or whatever, right?
But where were we?
Okay.
We were diligently avoid the truth.
Tell people that Bill will not invest with me and craft an answer that suits your needs.
But you did agree to send a letter of recommendation should a future employer ask for one.
You have told me that Melinda insists on me not communicating with you unless Larry is copied or present.
Though you have consistently maintained that I could not have done a better job and that I Larry is his lawyer, I have assumed.
I think so.
Larry Summers, I think.
Though you have consistently maintained that I could not have done a better job and that I was underpaid compared to my contribution, you then, beyond all sense of fairness and frankly, decently, let me tell you, it wasn't very decent, said that it was a generous compensation for keeping the Gates reputation intact.
You would let me keep what we agreed that I already owned the investment pieces and give me two years' severance.
Damn.
Damn.
Similar to Christine Turner, another casualty.
If the shoe was on the other foot, I would have said, Boris, this is not your fault.
I confessed to Melinda and you didn't.
It was in a moment of weakness, and I will do anything within my power to make it right for you.
I have more money than anyone needs.
What?
Yeah, anyone needs.
And I assure you, I will structure something so that you will not be penalized for my error.
Lucky for me, I have enough money to provide you though.
It will not heal the injury.
It will make you secure in your future.
In addition, I will bend over backwards to make sure your next career is rewarding and on upswing.
I appreciate the fact this drastically alters your plans and am very aware of the career path you gave up to join the foundation.
I am very sorry, but as I believe time heals all wounds, this will eventually pass.
In that regard, I suggest you buy the house that you had your heart set on in addition to five years' severance.
We'll buy you out of the investment contract we had agreed to.
30 to 40% of a hundred million dollar partnership for $30 million in today's dollars, terms and conditions to be agreed.
That's what I would have done had I been in your shoes.
What I did receive, however, was an unfriendly, strongly worded email telling me how employable I am and that I should not look to you for any significant financial help in the future.
To add insult to injury, you can surreptitiously give Melinda in the description of your, oh, oh, sorry.
Sorry.
I got ahead of myself there.
Uh-oh, it's just a bunch of text.
That's what I would have done if I had been in your shoes.
What I did receive, however, was an unfriendly, strongly worded email telling me how employable I am and that I should not look to you for any significant financial help in the future.
To add insult to injury, you then implore me to please delete the emails regarding your STD.
That sexually transmitted disease.
Mr. Bill in his pink sweater getting all the puss, getting something else too.
That you can surreptitiously slip to Melinda in the description of your penis.
You also made it very clear to me, include the description here, please.
I am not to refer to blank, as that is another topic that must remain between the two of us.
What is that?
The secret devil worship meeting or something?
They blanked that out.
In return for all these requests, which I would have done without a second thought, I'm not to attend meetings with Melinda.
I should continue to provide the same level of service and dedication, procuring you probably the child of grape that I've done so diligently until you are ready to discard me in our friendship.
I don't see a single, like, like, and this isn't a race thing.
I'm saying specifically around the fact that these people have a particular caliper and they're the same people each and every single time I see this particular offense.
And Melinda, if you read the email, said something about to the to like, don't have any conversations without our lawyer being involved because she saw the truth behind this man.
Andrew, on the document, there is this picture here.
Can we please show this picture for everybody to see?
Because this is from a vanity article in which she specifically talks about Bill Gates and he talk and she talks about Epstein specifically.
Melinda French Gates said there were a number of factors that led to her decision to divorce her husband at 27 years Bill Gates, including his work with the late disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.
The philanthropists addressed their divorce publicly for the first time in a new interview with Gail King that aired on CBS this morning on Thursday, explaining that it was not one thing, but many things.
But you got to understand these people know what's best for you.
They view themselves really just as the superior race.
And that's just people that are billionaires with money.
And they're like, we're going to build an off-world civilization.
This is the stuff Epstein talked about with uploading the brain of the computer and all this type of stuff.
It's always been the science fiction fantasy, but ultimately these people, instead of wanting clean water, clean food, and into wars, free housing for everybody, instead of wanting the true utopia, which is possible, which we could have, they're like, no, we're going to keep things in a state of collapse so I can maintain Grape Island.
So imagine how much power you have to be able to talk to the deputy minister and say, deal with this problem because this girl is causing a lot of issues for these powerful businessmen.
I say to him, massage table in the middle of your house?
How often do you have a massage?
And he says, every day.
And then he like gets like weirdly close to me.
And he says, and the right kind of massage.
Now, my wife is standing here.
So she looks at me and I look at her.
And we say, I'm sorry.
We have to go.
And we left.
And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.
He says, do you want me to try to do her or just torture her?
Okay.
She wrote me on BlackBerry Messenger that you were very nice and clever and sent a smiley face.
She has excellent oral skills.
And then Jeffrey Epstein says, understood.
Thanks.
Okay.
Do you want me to try to do her or just torture her?
Normal people don't talk to other people this way.
Normal people don't behave this way.
Like talking to your fellow billionaire or multi-multi-millionaire buddy about the manner of which you're going to have sex or torture this prostitute or this whoever, this mysterious entity they're talking about.
Like even if you're doing this type of stuff, imagine like the sick community that's built where you're like, yeah, I'll call my buddy Bill.
You know, I graped that girl last week.
You know, maybe I should go do it again.
And it's like, like, what goes through your mind?
And what I think goes through your mind is that you cannot be touched, right?
Because there's nothing they're going to do to you ever because you run the planet.
He's an ex, I mean, he's a hedge fund executive and business partner at Breminer Capital LLP with a background in finance, including roles in EIM group.
He is referenced in the unsealed Jeffrey Epstein files.
Basically, all you need to know about this guy, he's a rich dude.
Yeah, let's get the first and second one prepared because the second one goes hand in hand with it and it's good as well.
Alorum Epstein files the biggest stain on the British royal family ever.
The new root, excuse me, the newly released photos have ripped off the mask of lies from the dark face of the royal family.
I like when something's written a little bad because it's written real.
Someone real wrote this.
In these pictures, Prince Andrew can be seen leaning on a girl.
The girl is lying on the floor.
Her face is in the frame.
In some photos, he is seen touching the girl, and there's another person with them.
In the Jeffrey Epstein case, Prince Andrew was accused of forcing sexual relations on 17-year-old Virginia Guffray, after which all his royal titles are stripped away.
But the truth is that powerful people always manage to escape the truth.
Now, the photos that have been released are exposing disgusting secrets.
But there is a white Anglo-Saxon man, somebody who's British, doesn't matter.
And they're all part of the same party doing the same thing.
I don't see a black man on there.
I don't see an Asian man on there.
I don't see a Muslim on there doing this type of stuff.
Maybe there could be those types of people in there.
But in general, these are the men that are the focal point.
But do you know what America's arguing over right now?
We're arguing over ice, right?
We're arguing over H-1Bs.
And you know what?
People are going to hate me and say, if I had the choice and I had a choice to make between taking a thousand Indians versus one of like a handful of these dip shits that are in here doing terrible stuff, give me the thousand Indians.
Fuck it.
At least they're doing something positive compared to what they're doing.
Go ahead and go to the Asmund Gold Goyam clip because I want to play this because Epstein talked in a very derogatory and racial way against people that were not Jewish.
And, you know, like there, there, there are a lot of instances of this.
People will call me a Zionist if I don't cover this one.
So I'll just pull up the one with Masad.
The only reason why I don't like talking about these things because they're like overly talked about sometimes, and there's more important things to talk about.
But this is part of the Epstein files.
Let's go down to the Mossad thing with the question mark.
Let's just go through this PDF real quick and I'll highlight a couple of things where Mossad question mark.
Yeah, where they talk about potentially there's age verification every single time.
CHS remembered Dershowitz to tell Alex Acosta, U.S. attorney of Southern District of Florida at the time, that Epstein belonged to both U.S. and allied intelligence services.
CHS shared phone calls between Dershowitz and Epstein during which time he took notes.
After these calls, Mossad would then call Dershowitz to debrief.
Epstein was close to the former prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak.
He's in the finals and is trained as a spy under him.
Barack believed Netanyahu was a criminal.
Saudi Arabia, Israel, the United Arab Emirates are allied against Qatar, Turkey, Iran, and Syria.
That's true.
One of the CHS's blanks, who presumably worked blank, asked CHS a lot of questions about Epstein.
CHS became convinced that Epstein was a co-opted Mossad agent.
Masha Drovka telephone number blank is based in Silicon Valley.
She ran a firm, one ventures, supposedly early stage investment company.
She used to be President Putin's main contact in the Russian youth movement, confidential human source.
And Drovka spoke, but Drovka did not talk to her at all about technology.
Instead, she looked at CHS and said, you knew Epstein, didn't you?
So let me tell you, there's somebody who's like, oh, this has nothing to do with illegal deportation.
It's an example of all the things and the systemic problems we're having, right?
I'm giving you an example of all the distractions and things that are happening.
If a guy like Prince Andrews can sit, stare, look over this 17-year-old, as well as all these other people who have committed these heinous things.
What else are they doing that they are not telling us about?
Just sit with that for a second.
What else, what decisions are they making on the behalf of the American person, the American people, you and I, Rex, as citizens, we give them the delegation to make decisions for us as a republic.
What else are they doing that they are not telling you?
If they're as sick and satistic in order to actually do things to these minors, best believe they could sell out anything about our country and not in your best interest.
And that is the real stuff that actually leads to the problems that you're having and why you can't get a job and why you have massive inflation because they let these Wall Street hedge guys make risky bets in the market and they bail them out, right?
Like there's things as there's too big to fail bank.
So we'll make sure we'll protect the bank because you know what?
It's like somebody's like, oh, well, you know, they could flood the country with tens of millions of illegals.
Okay.
There's major problems and there's minor problems.
That's that's big compared to some people.
But if you look at the scale of what actually moves the needle in society, I would guarantee you, and I'll go on a limb and say probabilistically: 50 of the richest, most powerful men doing these heinous things, making decisions for the rest of the world is a bigger problem than 10 million illegals that may or may not commit a couple of crimes here and there or take a specific job here or there that people want or don't want.
Like, just, I want you to understand there are monetary decisions that are being made at a macro level that decide whether or not you can put food on your table.
And that has nothing to do with illegal immigration, has nothing to do with Somalis.
It has nothing to do with the white-black dichotomy and who's the white man is evil and all those things.
It has nothing to do with any of that.
It's these small groups of people making big decisions on where the money flows.
And these people call themselves Christians.
They call themselves Christians.
They literally go on air and they say, I am a man.
This is this on the word of God.
On the word of God, they're like, and you know what?
You think you can just take the Lord's name in vain and just go out there and just be like if anyone hurts the little ones that believe in me or causes them to stumble, it would be better for them that a millstone be tied around their neck and be dropped into the deepest ocean.
Ultimately, whatever we believe on immigration or any of these policies, monetary policy, fiscal policy, military policy, it's all downstream of these people being kid grapers, man.
And like, that's it.
We need, if we had a serious country, screw that, if we had a serious electorate, these people would be gone, but we don't.
So like, it's, that's why we do the show.
It's why we do gray area is to really like react.
Like, this is not normal.
Like, let's live in a normal world where we're not on the sports team.
It's so frustrating because I had an epiphany while reading all this.
Like, guys, if you're not sweating and you're not feeling the heaviness of the weight while you're reading some of these allegations, you might be listening to us talk about it.
Spend some time going through the files, right?
Going through the files.
All you need to understand is it's not necessarily just the act, it shows the thought process of these people.
That is the thing that you need to focus on.
What goes through the mind of a person that is willing to commit these acts and what will they not won't will won't?
And like, we really are, Tim, especially, me too, for this, because I watch coverage of this all day.
Like, this is hard to do, you know, and it's hard to admit this and grapple with it and realize that our country is run by these people.
And like, it's much easier to just be like, I support Trump or like evil mad guy, blah, blah, blah.
It's a lot easier to do that and be like, hey, like, what's the process look like of beginning to get rid of these people and put them in jail, ultimately try them for treason and hang them like we should.
And like, that's not a radical thing to say.
It's not a radical thing to say we should hang these people, right?
It's like, that's inflammatory language.
These people committed the worst crimes imaginable, much worse than regular rape or murder, doing it to kids, systemically trafficking them, building an entire system around it, a party scene around the grape and ritualistic slaughter of children.
So to say that they should be tried, convicted, and executed is not a radical position.
February, you made a public claim that the Epstein client list was, quote, sitting on my desk right now for review.
End of quote.
You then produce already public information and no client list at a major media event hosted at the White House.
Attorney General Bondi, why did you publicly claim to have the Epstein client list waiting for your review and then produce nothing relevant to that claim?
Senator Derby, Senator Durbin, if you listen to my entire clip on that, I said I had not reviewed it yet, that it was sitting on my desk along with the JFK files, the Martin Luther King files.
And I said I had not yet reviewed it.
And if you see our memo on Epstein, you will see, excuse me, our memo on Epstein clearly points out that there was no client list, our July 6th memo.
The July 7th memo came from the FBI and the Department of Justice.
Director Patel answered those questions very clear.
And, you know, Senator Durbin, I find it very interesting that you refused repeated Republican requests to release the Epstein flight logs in 2023 and 2024.
You fought that.
Did you take money from Reed Hoffman campaign donations, who was a huge Epstein friend?
Okay, so it's a big deal that you took money or knew Epstein's friend or whatever, but Epstein never trafficked anybody and didn't exist and there is no file.
Here's the thing: when somebody's telling the truth and they can stick behind what they're saying, it's very easy for them to like flow in conversation, but you're seeing her freeze.
She's like, I got to think about this because if I don't say this right, I'm going to get in trouble.
They went to his island all the time, and many others are all Democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing or affordability because we brought prices way down, but they're going way lower.
On energy, on ending eight wars, and another one coming pretty soon, I believe.
We've done a great job.
And I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done.
So I'm all for it.
You know, we've already given 50,000 pages.
You do know that.
Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category, but no matter what we give, it's never enough.
You know, with Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn't enough.
With Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough.
And it's just a Russia, Russia, Russia hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.
Now, I believe that many of the people that we, some of the people that we mentioned, are being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein.
But they were with him all the time.
I wasn't.
I wasn't at all.
And we'll see what happens.
What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great success of the Republican Party.
He goes, you know, the Martin Luther King and the JFK and the Epstein is not as serious as that.
Not as serious as that.
I would say it's more serious.
You're talking about two people being killed versus, you know, hundreds of children, dozens of the world's most powerful elites, princes, presidents, everyone.
This is how most shows go on to sell their souls because literally, what is his name?
Stein came on here and he said, yeah, you know, Tim doesn't report on certain, not me, the big Tim, Tim Cass, Tim Poole doesn't report on things anymore because he's now leaned more towards a side and is no longer moderate in what he talks about.
And he didn't say he sold his soul, but he basically was like, he's not the same Tim anymore.
Number two, it's just like Trump derangement syndrome.
Man, if you're on the sports team, if you bought the jersey, if you're going to the sports games, if you're clapping for the players on the team, you know, that's maybe Benny Johnson is more your speed.
I don't care if you're right, left, you're a grandpa, you're a young 20-year-old whipper-snapper, you're black, white, Asian, Muslim.
I don't care.
If you do something wrong, law and rules and regulations and what's true and what's right from wrong does not discriminate against any of those things.
If you did something bad, you did something bad, and you're going on our show and we're going to talk about it.
Oh, and if, and if you guys want to know something even more, I don't, I, I, I need to start telling people more stuff that happens behind scenes because I'm part of conversations in rooms and talk to specific people that like, they tell me the truth of what's going on behind scenes.
You literally pay a publicist to write a good article in which you give them the headline, you give them the copy, the text that goes in between, and you say, say all these really good things about me.
And there's two paths to being known by the public.
One is being real and being authentic and reaching out and growing an audience, a platform, a relationship, whatever you want to call it, a coalition like we're doing.
The other route is just to dump money into the ecosystem and just get someone to write something.
And that's how these politicians, left, right, whatever.
There's the banking industry, there's the military-industrial complex.
There's the technocrats, which are like the Elon Musk and those people.
Then you have government systems and like those agencies that run within those government systems.
And then you have like just world financiers, the economic world forms.
There are all different buckets, and they also don't all agree on how the world and these governments should be run.
Everyone has contentions and issues with each, and they battle for power on specific things on what they think is the way that actually helps them and benefits them, right?
So at the end of the day, all these people are all kind of part of the system.
And so there's just this, there's this one thing that you can all agree on.
They give you two options because of the fact that the primaries were decided.
But then if you think about it, go to who the actual candidates that are elected for the primaries, which you vote on.
Those aren't accidents.
Those are people that were already in power that are part of the same system.
It's not an accident.
So, you know, this has been a phenomenal episode.
Sorry, I got off the rails there for a little bit, but my whole thing is just let's stop turning all these issues into race.
Stop turning them into immigration issues when the real problem is the bad people that actually really control everything while the chaos is happening and we're all distracted.
We got some other people that are joining from different platforms, wherever you're finding us right now.
This is just one episode.
We don't talk about Epstein every deep dive.
This is specific.
Typically on Sunday, after we have a guest, I do what is called a deep dive in which I cover a specific either current or historical event in which I give you the concrete things that you need to know about things that like you may have not considered.
For example, Ukraine and Russia war.
Sometimes we're like, well, we have all this war.
Well, what caused it?
Why are we in this conflict to begin with?
And we go and we dig up everybody's dirty laundry.
That is a recurring theme, and it has nothing to do with whether you're right or left or bipartisan.
Like it's all about, it's all about being accountability, no matter who it is.
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