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Jan. 21, 2026 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
01:19:09
Andrew Tate - Sneako - Fuentes Miami Disaster? Chill Stream - REX X Gray Area

Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect the Miami nightclub scandal involving Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Sneeko, and others—performing Nazi salutes for clicks—while Tate claims ignorance, blaming "shock-value" content. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson warns of U.S. missteps in Iran tensions, citing carrier groups near the region and Netanyahu’s push for regime change despite Trump’s stated opposition. Seismic activity near Israel’s Dimona nuclear site fuels speculation about covert threats, with Wilkerson arguing nuclear deterrence is rational. The episode critiques mainstream media’s reliance on government sources and highlights alternative experts like Nima Alkhorshid and Judge Napolitano to expose geopolitical realities. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
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lawrence wilkerson
10:40
r
rex jones
infowars 17:14
t
tim tompkins
29:16
Appearances
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andrew tate
03:09
j
jonathan pollard
isr 00:54
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nima r alkhorshid
03:58
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nima yamini
01:10
Clips
a
adam sosnick
00:03
p
patrick bet-david
00:28
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steven meiner
00:17
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Speaker Time Text
Screen Share Reactions 00:06:31
rex jones
What's up, guys?
unidentified
Evening.
Weekday stream.
rex jones
Oh, yeah, you're right.
We got to see what people are saying.
Welcome to Rex X-Gray Area 7.
I didn't put the number in the title because there was no room for it.
Now, we have said, and our audience knows this, that Tim is here on Thursday and Sunday doing the deep dive, doing the three, four-hour show.
And I'm kind of holding down the fort with a daily.
Now, we have a topic here I didn't get to tonight.
Did you see what I did last night?
No.
Okay, so last night I reacted to Nick Fuentes went on Tim Pool.
tim tompkins
Okay, I saw some of it.
rex jones
He was like a two and a half hour nothing burger.
They all look like cartoon characters.
And Tim Poole is basically doing his own show and just ignoring Nick Fuentes, which I thought was pretty funny, just milking his name for super chats.
tim tompkins
Wow.
rex jones
But I reacted to that and I was because I thought it was going to be fun.
That's what people wanted to see.
And I still think we had a fun time.
But the thing everyone knows about right now that's circulating on Twitter and whatnot, it's kind of the peak of the peak IRL streaming slop is the Fuentes, ex-Sneeko, ex-Andrew Tate, ex-Tristan Tate, ex-Justin Waller, ex-Myron, ex-Walter Fresh, all of them.
They were on that club.
tim tompkins
I haven't seen anything.
Has Fuentes responded to this yet?
Have we seen clips of him circulating?
rex jones
I mean, this is like nothing for him.
tim tompkins
I didn't see.
Yeah, I was, he's already, he's like, I've already been deplatformed off of everything.
I don't care.
rex jones
That's the thing, right?
It's like, you're, you're going to get into it.
Like, this is very serious for like five out of six of the people in there, right?
But for Fuentes, like, he's kind of like par for the course.
The first time I go to the club, I get banned from all of them.
Right.
tim tompkins
So, and, and like, normally I don't come on the stream and this is his solo, but like, I was like, I kind of need to come on.
rex jones
Well, you know, you know, something we don't, don't you?
Well, and what do you, what do you know?
tim tompkins
I know Sneeko, right?
Like, I grew up with Sneeko.
unidentified
Wow.
tim tompkins
Um, played on the same soccer team, went to the same school from first grade all the way through eighth grade.
We're in the same classes, went to his house, know his parents, know his brother, played soccer with his brother, uh, talked plenty with his parents.
Uh, my sister used to be friends with his sister, right?
Uh, what else?
Um, I'm blanking out here.
Literally, same community, same community, essentially.
So, like, you know, obviously, as you grow up, everybody becomes different people.
I haven't talked to him in like three years or so.
I mean, it's it's been a minute, and it was just me texting him.
I even have this, honestly, I should probably pull that up sometime.
I've got this video of us literally playing bells in school.
Um, so well, while we uh, I actually, I'm gonna find that.
I know exactly where that is.
We can play that for people here, uh, shortly, but it's just like you see these things, and I'm like, that is not the same guy that I grew up with.
And I'm like thinking about his family and these aspects, and I'm like, I don't know what backlash they get at certain points.
And I don't hate Sneeko, you know, I mean, and his real name is Nico Kendabal and Tazi.
It's not Sneeko.
rex jones
I didn't know that.
tim tompkins
Yeah, his real name is Nico Kendabal.
Like, I know him as Nico, not Sneeko.
rex jones
He was a cool name.
You know, Sneeko is good branding, though.
It's good branding.
tim tompkins
You know, interesting, like growing up, he was always like loud one in class, class clown, like funny, like super funny.
Like, I mean, we, he's been over my house, sleepovers, uh, my birthday party.
Like, there's a picture of us all standing there with Nerf guns.
I, you know what?
Give me a second.
Go ahead and yap.
I got a post.
rex jones
Now he's the IRL streamer, and you're doing a political show in dining.
tim tompkins
The world is the world is a small world, man.
rex jones
Well, it's crazy.
And like the thing I look at is like, I got a lot of people in the chat, like over the course of doing the solo show on the weekdays.
A lot of people are like, react to Fuentes, react to Sneeko, react to this XYZ.
And I'm like, look, I consider it honestly, like, not Fuentes, not his show, which I do respect.
I consider the IRL streaming culture to be the lowest of the low.
Seriously.
And that's not, I'm not dissing anyone's profession.
I'm not dissing how you make money or how you're able to get the Lambo or whatever.
Good for you.
Good for you.
The point is that I always reference is that the Arab tribes used to have a myth where if or not a myth, legend, if you got a photo taken of you, you lost a portion of your soul.
And I don't necessarily believe that in its entirety, but I do believe it's unhealthy to be on camera for like 12 hours a day, every single day, for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, because ultimately you would act like a Kai Sanat, like just constantly on the air.
unidentified
That's.
rex jones
That's, that's different, like even him he's like usually, like in a room or something where you're like walking around, like interacting with people in a way where you wouldn't.
You would not act like that if there's not a camera there.
unidentified
No, you're not like, but it becomes your identity.
rex jones
You're a sub five.
tim tompkins
It does become your identity.
unidentified
Though I'm on the street, like what the fuck you want?
rex jones
Like it's crazy, it's wild, but we have clips.
Do you want to go to the clips and then you can do the thing it might?
tim tompkins
Yeah 100 um, do we got?
rex jones
So we can, we can play them.
Going to the club and I wish we had.
There's one where all the women are there.
We're going to present it to the screen.
Now there's one where all the women are there and they're dancing to the House Hitler song in the car.
We don't, we don't see, we don't seem to have that, unfortunately.
We can, we can find it, I can, we can find that as well just d, just dm it to uh the gray area and then i'll uh which one is it?
Are you dimming more stuff?
Right now there's just, there's more footage.
We should have been.
unidentified
Okay, I got you, it's all good, but this is the.
tim tompkins
This is the OG.
This is the first one I saw and i'm sure a lot of you guys have seen.
Did you make sure you shared the audio on that?
unidentified
Sure, the audio on the screen share?
rex jones
Um, I guess we'll remove it and add it to stage again and figure it out.
unidentified
Don't know if there's a way to do that.
tim tompkins
Yeah, stop screen share.
rex jones
Go ahead and try it again.
Very fun, and then love doing it.
tim tompkins
Okay, you're good.
Yeah, I thought no no no yeah, it's see, it's unchecked there.
You go see, we're learning these things because go ahead and play.
rex jones
time you guys used to not hear it he's like what does look so uncomfortable Well, I think 20s is uncomfortable because it's his first time going to the club.
Sneeko's Perturbation 00:08:31
rex jones
He's like that this is understandable, all right, but but Sneeko, Sneeko's look looking a little perturbed.
He knows what's coming.
Myron's like, yeah, I don't care.
And Tristan looks happy man and the thing is like I know everyone's like oh, like where we didn't know they're gonna do it.
It makes us feel so bad.
You're just.
You're such a pussy if if, This is your career, and you're going to get clicks doing this kind of like extreme stuff.
And you're like, I didn't know they were going to do it.
And it made me really sad when they did it.
unidentified
I understand the things I say, I'm for the moon.
He didn't say it.
rex jones
Notice how Sneeko does not mouth along to the side.
tim tompkins
By the way, he says he's black, which he is black in terms of Haitian, his dad, but his dad, African American.
His dad does not look black, by the way.
Just he looks very, he looks very like Filipino Asian type of thing.
But like he has some percentage black in him.
So it gives him that.
rex jones
It's such a ridiculous.
It's such a ridiculous thing.
tim tompkins
It gives him the claim, but he is mixed.
It's so weird.
Like, if you were to see his parents, they don't actually look like him except for his mom.
And like, you would never say that.
You would never guess that he's black.
But it's, it's, it's not very happen when you're mixed.
It's not very black, though.
I can guarantee you that.
Well, Haitians are black if you're talking about the real black Haitians, right?
rex jones
What you're talking about.
The thing is, is like there's no Caribbean, there's African American, there's differences.
tim tompkins
But I'm going to be honest, he's not like black, black.
He's not African.
rex jones
Tim doesn't approve.
Very diverse Nazi coalition.
Notice how diverse it is.
tim tompkins
He doesn't even know what he's saying See that's that That's the part I'm like, this is crazy.
rex jones
That's his brand.
tim tompkins
I know.
I know.
But at this point, is when Tristan and Andrew start getting uncomfortable.
This is the moment where they're like, damn.
Okay.
Yeah, we got the song.
It's fine.
But like, now you're just like openly doing salutes, right?
Keep going.
Yeah, of course, right?
rex jones
You can see Tate like running out.
unidentified
He instantly does he look.
Does he look happy to you?
rex jones
Get me out of here.
me into my Bugatti.
I like how fresh is there and no one notices that he's there.
tim tompkins
You're right.
rex jones
I'm Jewish like Kristen Tate is black.
Okay.
Well, so they're going to the club.
It's Nick's time.
It's Nick's first time going to the club.
You're going to the club with a 19-year-old on meth, a guy in his 40s used to work for the intelligence.
tim tompkins
He's 20.
He's 20.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Even though he's not supposed to be in there, he's in there.
rex jones
I didn't even think about that.
tim tompkins
He's not supposed to be in there.
unidentified
Yeah, they're supposed to.
tim tompkins
They're also showing him drinking on stream.
rex jones
They're supposed to draw X's on his hands and not let him have alcohol.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
He's allowed to go in and just no, no, no.
tim tompkins
Very much so.
rex jones
Yeah.
Very, very interesting.
tim tompkins
Oh, there's another angle to this.
rex jones
Just send it all.
I'm just going to start playing the video.
tim tompkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's another angle to this.
Like, Justin Waller, I like that guy a lot.
rex jones
I like him too.
I think he, if he's given some good advice, damn, we have, we should have more than this.
You want me to go?
tim tompkins
I just sent you two more.
rex jones
So go over to the uh, I'm opening a new tab so we don't lose it.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
unidentified
You're about to beat us off.
rex jones
Tim, Tim's like, look, we got to do a series.
Tim's like, all right, we got to do a serious show.
unidentified
We cannot get in trouble, and then he immediately starts singing the song.
rex jones
See, I'm the moderate on this show, believe it or not.
Okay, all right, I'll go to the chat here really quick.
You want to read some chats while I do this?
tim tompkins
Yeah, so we got you can't use the blanketed term for black people shaking my head.
Uh, you're right.
Um, you can't use a blanketed term, it's that left video you can click on and those one.
Yeah, if you click on the left video on there, okay, uh, it's an overreaction, there's a chillin, it's just a song.
rex jones
This is what hell looks like to me.
tim tompkins
It would be hold on, it would be just a song, man, every if Myron didn't just go and like do this salute and they just make it like super mainstream.
Like, you had the Avengers of like streamers of like the red pill Avengers is what I would call them.
So, like, it's it's a high, like there's a lot of people there watching you, and they knew what they were trying to do in order to get clicks out of it.
Now, that from that standpoint, I'm like, but I still think it's slop.
rex jones
I agree, that's my critique.
It's like, these are not serious people, and everyone posts about this.
Like, it's literally like the Avengers, and it's them taking a 19-year-old to the club.
But I guess it's super based.
tim tompkins
He knows all the lyrics.
rex jones
I hope the dopamine was worth it.
unidentified
I hope it was all buzzing and possibly this guy popped out of nowhere.
tim tompkins
I didn't know who he was.
And then in the last week, yeah, in the last week, he's been everywhere on my feed, man.
rex jones
Yeah, well, I mean, uh, Fuentes endorses him.
He's a looks maxer.
That's what his game is.
tim tompkins
The Tates are not dancing, by the way.
People were saying that they're not enjoying and have and dancing.
rex jones
The Tates look miserable.
Sneko is like having a is having like orgasm.
Yes.
And the Tates are like, Oh, no.
tim tompkins
Well, I mean, how old are they?
Andrew's like 38, 39.
Tristan is like 37 or something like that.
Like, they have real businesses, real companies, real things that they do.
And what is what is like this clav dude do?
Like, honestly.
rex jones
Well, the thing, the thing is, is it's just like you're a middle-aged guy and you got to go to the club.
I get it for a photo op or whatever.
Imagine you're like, you're a multi, multi-multi, multi-millionaire.
You're worth all this money.
You got like five of the baddest biddies and like 20 kids.
And then you have to go stand in the club quietly.
And it's like you say, like, lose like all your social access to the rooms and circles that you're connected to for no reason.
tim tompkins
Right.
For no reason.
And Andrew Tate went on PBD podcast, which we will show you guys, but PBD calls him out somewhere in the middle of the chat.
He's like, look, I see President Trump at a game, and who would I see next to him?
I see, what's his name?
Why am I blanking out on his name?
No, Bald, bald guy, UFC.
Why do I not Rogan?
rex jones
Dana White.
tim tompkins
Dana White.
Why did I?
I know exactly who he is.
I see Dana White next to him, right?
You should be next to him, not these kids.
Like, he's like, you're better than that, essentially, is what they're all calling him out for.
He's like, why do you even associate with somebody like Sneeko who's literally dragged your name through the mud over and over again?
And then you're sitting here with him.
And he's like, honestly, if somebody had told me this was going to happen, I would have never gone because he's receiving flack not just from the internet, but his private circles of people who are talking to him.
Covering What Others Have Said 00:15:15
tim tompkins
So he knows he has to do damage control.
Tate has mellowed out.
Have you noticed that?
rex jones
I mean, yeah, but I mean, the prison will do that to you.
unidentified
Keep going.
rex jones
And really quick, guys, I'm going to do geopolitics in the second hour.
We're not doing the Bongino thing today.
I'm doing the Bongino thing tomorrow is fresh Fresh makes his appearance.
Yeah, that's Walter.
tim tompkins
He's just always quiet in the background.
rex jones
That's a good comment, actually.
unidentified
That's really good.
rex jones
That's very true.
tim tompkins
When historians study the collapse of our nation, they will study videos like these.
Dude, we're living.
We are living in a new simulation.
This is like the Wild West at this point.
rex jones
It's wild.
tim tompkins
Nothing serious anymore.
No, nothing is serious.
rex jones
I mean, certainly not.
tim tompkins
We're covering this just because I wanted to cover it because I just want to show like F around, find out.
But at the same time, there's unnecessary things in life when you could be doing better with your life, essentially.
And you know what's crazy?
I'm going to talk more about this thing as we've watched through the rest of these videos.
But like, even some of the things I'm going to say, people are going to be like, you're an anti-Zionist.
Mossad must have targeted him.
He must be in the basements with them, plotting the world.
No, I just, it's like common sense for me as a business person.
rex jones
Well, this is almost like putting a hat on a hat.
What do you mean?
Well, I mean, they're already doing it.
So they're doing it.
It's a grift.
It's turned into a thing of like people go, oh, this person is authentic because they say things that people aren't willing to say.
And then it turns into a grift because that's the business model now.
unidentified
It is.
tim tompkins
So sensationalized.
rex jones
Do you want to go to the Jewish guy saying that Sneeko is banned from the bed?
tim tompkins
Let's go, Julio.
rex jones
We'll go ahead and watch the aftermath of what happened.
Then we'll watch PBD.
unidentified
The racist.
Hey, what's up?
andrew tate
I'm streaming right now.
unidentified
I can see that.
andrew tate
You watching?
unidentified
No, I'm not.
Oh, let's go.
andrew tate
So I'm banned from everything.
unidentified
You're banned from virtually.
Oh, I'm on my own stream.
I don't want my face on stream.
Okay, yeah.
andrew tate
Just put your voice.
unidentified
You're virtually banned from every single hospitality group in the United States.
andrew tate
Like what?
unidentified
Tao Group, Groudon Hospitality, HR Group, virtually every restaurant, every venue, every nightclub.
You're pretty much banned for your anti-Semitic remarks and your absolute racism and your hatred towards Jews.
I thought we were friends.
rex jones
We are friends.
andrew tate
You don't want to be friends anymore.
unidentified
Oh, I haven't been your friend over a year, my man.
Your anti-Semitism is blatantly disgusting.
It's very, very offensive.
tim tompkins
And just to clarify, guys, you know, I don't like when we go around and saying like everything's like anti-Semitism and, you know, just being critical of genocide going on makes you anti-Semit and anti-Semite.
Like those types of things like have nuance to where like people just want to report what's going on and just stop like killing.
I don't, I don't push back on those.
But like for what they're doing where they're playing the song, doing the salutes, having a good old boy time.
I mean, it's like they know what they're doing for the clicks.
I don't truly believe that Sneeko or, you know, Fuentes or the rest of them are like truly anti-Semitic, right?
Like just like Fuentes goes on to Pierce and he's like, you're a racist.
No, I don't think Fuentes is truly a racist.
It's just the role he's playing.
But again, these things.
You put it out there, you're actually gonna pull the people who actually might be in that demographic of like anti-semitic or racist.
That's that's where my issues come up and you're just like giving them like more fuel of the fire for the people who actually genuinely have those positions.
So this is what he says.
On that, can you go to the next?
rex jones
I just think it's all performative and fake it is.
tim tompkins
I don't think he's anti-semitic.
rex jones
That's, that's my, that's my view on it.
tim tompkins
Okay, just so you guys need context for people who are just joining.
I went to school with Sneeko.
rex jones
He knew we were covering this.
tim tompkins
We go in seventh grade.
Everybody's like 13.
They have the bar and bot mitzvahs.
He's in there dancing like the rest of us, we're all having fun and it's like hey, i've never been to one and it's like it's basically like almost like a club for like kids and you're just listening, like Katie Parry, and you're like you're jamming out.
But, like i'm saying, like these people all turned like 13 at that point.
So like he knows all of these people and he's not actually anti-semitic.
He has friends that are Jewish, so he doesn't hate Jews.
I don't, I don't.
I don't put that on the table, it's just, I don't also like the fact of like you remember when little Nas X has like blood or like makes a mockery of Christianity or something like that and has blood in the NIKE shoe and they had to like take the shoe off.
It's like there's certain things that are just polarizing and unnecessary, that can anger an entire population for no reason.
rex jones
You want to play more of this.
tim tompkins
Yeah, let's not this one, let's just play the PBD.
No, the uh.
Next one is this guy who basically it's right next to it, it's basically f around.
Find out uh right, right next to it.
unidentified
Are you in the chat or no, right there?
Nope, one more over.
rex jones
Oh, I see what you're saying.
tim tompkins
Yeah Nemo, and and I completely agree with everything this guy says in this video.
unidentified
By the way, I haven't seen it yet.
I'm out on saturday night, but wait until you hear what happened last night.
nima yamini
So saturday night, Sneeko and Nick Fuentes end up at this so-called wait for it European Elegance nightclub, which is a tourist trap that three Arab owners uh have.
unidentified
Nobody local basically goes there.
nima yamini
It's basically like a Tgi Friday with bottle service and a fog machine.
That's the sort of club they got into here in Miami and instead inside, they start celebrating to a song that Kanye did.
unidentified
That is about Hitler pushing hatred for the Jewish people.
nima yamini
They're smiling, they're singing, they're recording and they're making it into content.
Um, you know, to get clickbait and for a moment the internet does that as, As it always does, clips spread.
unidentified
People argue, and the attention just audio is echoing.
tim tompkins
Is it echoing for you guys on YouTube?
rex jones
I think it's the music.
unidentified
I think it's a I think it's that sound.
Okay.
Comes to them, right?
Now, wait a second, because Miami.
tim tompkins
Sneeko is part Jewish, by the way.
Toffer is asking.
rex jones
His dad is like he's like, Heinz 57.
Sounds like he's everything.
tim tompkins
He's everything, bro.
unidentified
He's in Instagram.
It's not X.
nima yamini
And offline, there are actual gatekeepers.
unidentified
And now we got David Rutman.
David Rutman is the most influential man in Miami hospitality.
He's very respected here.
He's a builder.
He's a family man.
He's someone who actually created culture instead of leeching off of it.
nima yamini
And he says one thing without any drama.
rex jones
He says, It's as if we're hearing two streams at the same time for the video.
Maybe it's our mic.
That's probably what it is.
tim tompkins
Let me say something real quick.
unidentified
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
I think I know what it is.
rex jones
This is why we use a new software.
unidentified
And we got a guy in the background.
tim tompkins
We'll go back to our camera real quick.
everyone experiencing that or is that just people on on x second hour geopolitics Yeah, we're not going to spend a lot of time on this, by the way.
Okay, maybe we just mute our mics while I think that's the solution.
All right, let's just do that then.
unidentified
He says, you're not welcome in any of our places.
No clout chase, no debate.
Now, fast forward that to last night.
nima yamini
One of them tries to get into Gecko, an actual popular place in Miami that actual successful people and artists and stuff go to.
unidentified
Real Miami, real standards.
nima yamini
He was rejected at the door and people laughed at him like a loser.
unidentified
And here's the lesson for Gen Z: you can chase attention.
You can hang out with losers.
You can celebrate hate for clicks.
nima yamini
But offline, nobody owes you access.
So the internet might like your video, but in the real world, they decide who gets in and who they want to help and who they want to respect.
unidentified
So think about your reputation.
tim tompkins
This is my position out of everything.
This is why I came on air tonight to reiterate something like this.
He is completely right.
You can go on TV, you can go on social media, you can go and make a big name out of yourself, and you can go and say, look, all that stuff.
And, you know, F the Jews.
And I hate black people.
rex jones
Let's get one thing out of the way.
When you're quoting something, there is no issue.
When you're quoting someone else saying Howl Hitler, it's just you're quoting someone else saying, dude, I just algorithms are out of control.
It doesn't matter.
We're reporting the news.
unidentified
Cool.
rex jones
Even if it's slop.
So that's a key distinction because I've had people go like, you do things like, I'm reporting the news.
I'm covering what other people have said.
So you can give it to other people.
So don't worry about that.
That's bullshit.
So they're all good.
tim tompkins
With that being said, he is completely right.
Your reputation is everything.
By the way, Sneeko and Nick Fuentes and all these people in Clav.
Clav is the youngest out of them, and he's doing the worst damage, by the way.
You're going to get to a point where you're turning like 30-something, your 40s, and these things stay with you in your entire existence.
And a lot of this comes down to your age and your own personality.
And a lot of men do brash things.
rex jones
I bet the Coke is really good, though.
I bet the Coke they're all doing is like the best cocaine possible.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
And like you think about this and you're like, little column A, a little column B, get banned from all nightclubs, whatever, do awesome cocaine with Andrew Tate, listen to How Hitler music.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
No, and it's the full spectrum, right?
And so like my whole thing is, is like, okay, fine, but you can't play victim after you receive consequences for your actions specifically.
You know, like he goes on and like, you, you'll see the video, and we're not going to cover this, but like he's almost like gaslighting the guy that's on the phone with him and being like, oh, so you don't just like me because I'm playing just a song.
It's like, no, you're playing a specific song to elicit a specific reaction.
rex jones
Beyond even that, it's like if your culture or like your streaming culture is to go to the club, you're going to do something that prevents you from going to the club.
You go, oh, the club's control.
unidentified
It is what it is.
rex jones
They should be able to go to the club and do whatever.
It's like, well, I mean, like, it's just bad for the career.
It's like, it's just stupid.
tim tompkins
Bad for the career.
Also, just keep in mind, these people have families.
They have friends.
They have people that associate with them.
They don't care when they go on there and who it affects at the end of the day.
Like people pay attention to who you spend time around and who you're interacting.
And it always comes back on the people that you actually care about.
So that is another thing that I have an issue with.
And then just on the macro level, when it comes to power, when it comes to money, when it comes to being in business with people, often the race, religion, all these other things, they don't care about.
They just care about like respect in general, right?
Like that doesn't mean they don't have healthy discord and talk about certain things and have tough conversations.
That doesn't mean that they don't do that.
They always have those types of conversations.
It just means like they don't do unnecessary damage.
And it's not even damage because it sounds like pretty soft, but it's like unnecessary, like derogatory things.
It's not like, you know, Jeff Bezos is in a meeting talking to this black guy and he's like calling him the N-word.
Like that doesn't happen.
rex jones
We don't know.
unidentified
We don't know.
tim tompkins
You know, sure.
Like there's, there's like, I don't know for sure.
People just respect each other for the purpose of like the business transaction in itself.
And as an individual, you can still disagree with somebody and still respect them at the same time.
Right.
And the last thing I'll say specifically on this is we always talk about the Jews being in power.
Fine.
There's a lot of powerful people who are Jewish, but there's also more people who are white Anglo-Saxon and are super powerful.
And if you do certain things in the Christian aspect where you like mock or do something crazy ridiculous that would upset a bunch of Christians, you're going to receive a reparation.
You're going to be reprimanded for that.
Right.
Like I don't see people going around the streets burning crosses and stomping on the Bible and stuff like that.
Imagine if that happens, what ends up what the outrage comes from.
rex jones
It's a fair point.
And like we cover the Muslims praying and people bring over the bacon, like, huh?
It's just, it may not be illegal, but it is, it's, it's antagonizing.
Here's my thing.
I, I don't have an issue with them going to the club and doing this.
It's, it's whatever.
I look at it kind of like, I don't know, like a dog eats its own poo and it's just kind of what it does.
But at the end of the day, I look at it and like, we're not talking about important stuff.
We're talking about this.
And like, we're covering it now because you have personal connection to it.
And like one of the chatters said, like, this is like a global story right now, but it's a global story because it's, it's as inflammatory as possible.
Right.
tim tompkins
It's like, if somebody were to do this, remember I made the analogy.
Little Nas X had his like 666 shoes, put like drops of blood in them and sold out like a thousand of those in probably like hours.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And the backlash was insane.
Tolerating Mockery 00:00:57
tim tompkins
Nike was like, we didn't approve this.
They had to control the narrative because there was a lot of Christians that were upset.
And if you go to Saudi Arabia or some of these Middle Eastern countries, you're not going to do certain things there.
Like we just tolerate it here, but like no one's going to tolerate you like making a mockery of the Quran or just like saying like, you know, Muhammad was doing this.
rex jones
We can't drama.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I don't, I don't even want to say the word because like that this just how charged it is, right?
So it's like anywhere you go, there are people in positions of power and you F around and you find out it's not just the Jewish community.
They just happen to be very like in charge of like the Miami scene.
Miami Beach Controversy 00:02:54
rex jones
But you do that anywhere.
tim tompkins
You go into LA or like some of these like media companies and like the social scene and you do certain things around the black community.
You're going to upset people who are in power, like who have real like a 50 cent or like a snoop dog who run those industries and certain things like that.
It's just why it's unnecessary.
You want to play let's go ahead and play PBD.
And then after that, I will talk about Sneeko specifically.
steven meiner
People laugh.
rex jones
This is Andrew Tate's struggle session.
This is him paying the Piper afterwards and apologizing to his master.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
steven meiner
I think it's celebrating Heil Hitler and Adolf Hitler.
I cannot believe we're even seeing this and witnessed a Miami Beach.
unidentified
A Miami Beach nightclub catching heat, accused of celebrating hate with a song about Hitler.
Absolute disgust.
steven meiner
Disgusted and horrified.
unidentified
City leaders reacting to videos making the rounds on social media featuring the Kanye West song with the lyrics Heil Hitler over and over again.
The same men seen in the club, known as controversial influencers, are also in a video from a limo.
In that one, they're singing, and one of them is performing a Nazi salute.
We have people in our city celebrating this.
Animals.
This is obviously not welcome in Miami.
It just should not be welcome anywhere in the world.
steven meiner
And by the way, I spoke to all the club operators.
They are not welcome in their club.
How they got into this club?
Open arms.
I want to know how.
unidentified
The videos are from Saturday night.
This one inside the club Vendome at 743 Washington Avenue.
The club releasing a statement on social media that reads in part: We want to be unequivocally clear, Vendôme and our hospitality group do not condone anti-Semitism, hate speech, or prejudice of any kind.
It goes on to state, we are deeply disturbed by the harm caused by this incident and the circulation of this footage.
The post explains that business is looking into safeguards and procedures to make sure this doesn't happen again.
As for the men in the video celebrating the song, the mayor has it at the step.
tim tompkins
We're going to get into Andrew Tate's response with this.
But like, oh man, it's like, you understand that like people like Nick Fuentes, Sneeko, Clav, like they'll never be able to wipe this away from their reputation.
And they've lost on the aspect of just even being able to do good business with good people or just being able to like, there's other ways to make money and have reputation than just be like controversial and contribute to society.
Daring Conversations 00:05:13
tim tompkins
This isn't a net positive at the end of the day.
And like for me, you know, I see this and I'm like, there's a reason why, like, if I'm upset with something or I have a point to make about a certain community or what people are doing, I'll say it in a logical manner that doesn't have to be something that like gets clicks.
And you can say things in a way that like says it with conviction in which you mean it without like being intentionally insulting.
So that way you actually make somebody pissed off.
Like Suleiman came on here, right?
Suleiman came on here.
He has a lot of positions about the Quran.
He has a lot of positions about Muslims and Iran.
And Rex and I were sitting here listening to him, right?
But we didn't necessarily agree with every single thing that he had to say on those particular issues.
But we were respectful.
We didn't sit there and be like, oh, you like bacon, piggy, and like all these different things.
No, we didn't have to do that in order to have a good conversation because out of that, you got to actually have some real talk, real conversations, real context, even beyond.
Had we started attacking and we just like went for it and been like, all right, let's just make this super spicy, you lose all the value.
You lose all the value that you could have got out of that conversation in which that one moment of like clickbait worthiness ends up ruining the rest of the conversation.
So like that's why when I go and I talk specifically on these issues, I just try to come at it from the gray area perspective.
Everyone thinks their truth is their truth.
They think they're completely right about this aspect or that aspect.
And like you say the things like, I'm not afraid to step on toes, but it doesn't mean I have to be a dick.
Like there's a huge distinction between those two things.
And like growing up with Sneeko specifically, and you know, one day I am going to meet him.
I mean, we're doing this.
We're in, we're in mutual circles.
We'll have conversations.
I'm not going to be like, dude, I hate you.
How dare you?
Like, I understand the macro of what he's doing here.
And he's paying the price for it, right?
Like, he is not making as much money as he used to when he had his YouTube, unnecessarily.
Whenas you can see other YouTubers that are making a crap ton of money and they actually give good content and they can have funny moments and do all those different things without actually like inciting something, you know.
Now, when it comes down to growing up, like I said, I know his dad.
I know his mom.
I know his, uh, I know his sister.
I know his brother.
His real name is Nico Kendabalantazi.
It's very hard to spell.
It's very hard to write out, but like you, you see the word and the name attached to him that goes back to his father.
That goes back to his entire family.
So anything he does is direct, can come back on his entire family.
And that is the problem as well.
His mom is like one of the nicest people ever, by the way.
Super nice, hospitality.
Like we were just playing like Black Ops 2 back in the day, and his mom's like bringing us snacks and food and stuff like that.
Fantastic woman and his dad, too.
But now I guarantee you, they're watching the news just like everything else.
And they're like, what's going on with this?
What it's unnecessary.
And then that's a stain on their reputation.
And by the way, Asian cultures are very big on reputation too.
His mom and dad are his mom's side is Filipino.
So that's where he's like half and half.
But I'm going to show you guys the Andrew Tate response to this.
Straight smoke, I know this isn't a topic for you.
I'm bringing this up because I'm just tired of the slop in general of just people thinking it's funny.
And like, you got to separate the issues of being Israel versus Zionist.
Like those are two different things.
Being Jewish does not mean you're Israeli.
Like separate the two issues.
Now everything's getting lumped together and it's just out of control.
Like I'm critical of Israel when it's necessary, but then there's a point at which there's an inflection point to where it just crosses the line to where it's like, it's where, where are you going with this?
At that point, it just seems like Qatar paid you a bunch of money in order to go and do these things in order to put Israel in a lower position and make the Jews feel some type of way.
So, like, again, you can be critical of Israel without being critical of the Jewish people because Jews live everywhere and they're not just from Israel.
Andrew Tate's Dilemma 00:11:41
tim tompkins
You can say your positions and whatever you want without being insulting.
Simple as that.
And people can call me a libtar.
They can say X, Y, and Z.
I don't do things for clickbait.
It's as simple as that.
I want to provide value in the marketplace.
And I have a ton of business that I do outside of here with some very powerful people where I talk to people in contexts where it's just about business and it has nothing to do with your race or religion.
So I'm going to pull up this clip.
Let's see.
I think this is Andrew Tate talking.
unidentified
You don't even see me in any of this.
andrew tate
Firstly, but I want to be very careful here because I don't want to deflect too heavily.
I don't want to be blaming other people, etc.
A whole bunch of songs were played that night, none of which I requested.
None.
I walk into a nightclub and songs are played.
Unfortunately, if anything happens anywhere near me, it gets tied to my name.
If someone got shot in that club, they would have said, Andrew Tate's in a nightclub where this man got shot.
I didn't shoot him.
I didn't pull the trigger.
I don't know who the fuck he is.
I was there and the song was played.
The actual conversation I think that's interesting to have when it comes to this is the nature of the internet and the nature of influencing in general.
Because I think we're living in a world now where only shock value seems to get anybody's attention for any significant period of time because everyone's dopamine receptors are completely fried.
So all of these young influencers or anyone on the internet who's trying to make any name for themselves is trying to be as controversial and shocking as possible as quickly as possible.
And that's why the song was played because it gets views.
That's why I didn't play it.
I didn't ask them to play it.
I didn't dance.
I didn't sing.
In fact, the only time you see me on there is me storming out of the bus saying this is ridiculous and leaving.
But I know why it was played.
It was played because of this.
It was played because it gets traction in a world where everybody is bored of everything all of the time.
And that's why these young people are encouraged constantly to try and do the most shocking thing possible.
You see this, not just with this song.
You see this on all their streams.
They're running people over, doing retarded shit constantly.
So I'm not here to make excuses for myself.
I'm not here to say it wasn't me.
unidentified
I'm not here to, you know.
It's exactly the point we were making earlier.
tim tompkins
Doing dumb stuff just for clicks.
And that is the slop that we've gotten into.
And they know exactly what they're doing.
Simple as that.
andrew tate
Blame someone else, but it is kind of ridiculous.
It does feel a bit unfair that I'm standing in a nightclub.
A song comes on that I did not request.
A song comes on that I do not dance to.
I do not repeat them lyrics to.
I just stand there.
And then they want to attribute somehow the song playing to me and it all being myself.
patrick bet-david
That's a fair argument, but I'll, you know, to the average person that's watching it, you know, back in the days when I'm younger, I'm in a car with a guy who I get out of the military.
It's December 23rd, 97.
The guy's got a bunch of pot in the back of his trunk.
Cops come out and I'm in the army and my guy's calling me telling me, hey, you got to figure something out.
You can't be involved in something like this.
So guilty by association, it's the first thing they're going to say.
You hung out with these guys.
tim tompkins
When I watched the you guys are going to see, like, the only reason why Tate was with them that night was because Fuentes has never been to a bar, by the way.
And like, you didn't, they didn't, he did not expect that this song was going to be played or these actions.
Like it was explicitly stated that Sneeko did it.
Sneeko was the one that played the song.
He kind of threw him under the bus.
It is what it is.
You know, whatever.
Like he, he basically goes on to here and says, well, I don't want to throw people in the bus, but Sneeko did it.
Like, that's exactly what he does.
But like, he's right.
PBD is like, you are the company that you keep in guilty by association.
Now, if we jump here, I think he says something other that's also very important.
andrew tate
But it was a long night.
It was six or seven hours in which for two minutes of it.
Someone got a phone and put a song on.
It wasn't me.
And now it's all over the news.
So I just think that the main reason this is being done is because shock value is what people are optimizing for with their content primarily.
And then we can have another conversation entirely about why anti-Semitism is on the rise in the first place, because I have a theory about that also.
And I think that the main reason anti-Semitism is on the rise across America, because there's no doubt about it that it is, is because young men are being told that Jews control the system and young men are being screwed by the system.
It doesn't mean it's true.
I'm not going to sit here and say that Jews completely and utterly control the system.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is if you tell young men that and they believe that, even if it's not true and they're getting screwed by the system, that's why people are anti-Semitic.
There was no anti-Semitism when a man could afford a house.
And there was no anti-Semitism when a man could get a wife.
And there's no anti-Semitism when he looked around and felt part of his community.
But people are so disenfranchised now with the places they're living in and the society they're forced to live within.
And they feel so disconnected from everything.
They've become revolutionary.
Young men of the world are revolutionary.
They're looking for somebody to blame.
They're told it's the Jews.
So that's why they're being anti-Semitic.
That's the truth about what is happening.
adam sosnick
And it's funny, though, Andrew, like, what's Nicholas Sneak?
unidentified
He's a grown man.
andrew tate
I'm going to call him his real name.
tim tompkins
His he said one of the reasons why he thinks anti-Semitism exists is because people are being told that Jews control everything is what his first thing was.
And then he said, because they're angry, they're saying, well, they're angry at the man in charge.
And they think the man in charge is the Jews.
And he says it is on the rise.
And by the way, he's not a paid actor.
He literally practices some form of Islam, right?
Like he has no incentive to be on there.
It's like, if I were to go on there and just start talking and giving like based opinions or their opinions anyways, or just speaking factual, people would also say the same thing about me.
Like, oh, it's a Zionist.
It's a Zionist program.
rex jones
Man, I support everyone's right to free speech.
I support their free speech.
And I think Matt says, play a song in the club and then you get banned from everywhere.
It kind of proves the point of the song.
Now, is it a smart move to play a song?
unidentified
No.
rex jones
Is it good for your career?
No.
But it does, it does kind of prove the point.
Now, are they willing to lose a lot of stuff over it?
I think not.
I think that's why they're panicking.
So that's my take.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And play a song in a club, get banned from everywhere kind of proves the point of the song.
No, it's not just like you go do certain things.
You go do certain things in any place, right?
Where there's a heavy concentration of any particular demographic.
Expect there to be consequences when the man who's in power, you do things in a Christian manner.
This is a white Anglo-Saxon.
They control like since the history, white Anglo-Saxon means you're English or European descent within those regions, right?
Most of those British or German, German or British.
Those are the majority of people that are in power.
Like go look it up.
You can fact check me.
That is actually where most of the power is.
Trump is literally the president.
He's not Jewish.
He's got one of those mixes of white Anglo-Saxon in him, right?
It's like we got to separate the idea that like all the Jewish people control everything.
There's a lot of people that control a lot of different things.
That's all I'm saying.
And if you say the wrong thing in the wrong room, you're going to end up finding consequences.
And that's the end of what I have to say about that.
rex jones
What's the next time stamp?
You got another one you want to go to?
tim tompkins
Oh, that's that's pretty much it.
I know people are going to get fatigued from this, but I just have to say it.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
I just, it's enough of the slop, enough of the slop.
rex jones
You.
You covered it.
You know him personally.
That's why we covered it.
It's important obviously, whenever we have something of relevance that we actually know about.
And Tim actually knows him.
He knows his full name and everything went to school with him, had him over at his house.
I think like that's a valuable critique, as someone that knows the guy knows that he's really not like that.
tim tompkins
He's no, he's really not like he's changed since i've known him.
I'm not gonna sit here and say he hasn't like everyone hasn't.
I'm not the same guy I was 10 years ago either, but what i'm saying is is that everything he was raised around and part of like he went to a private school, for god's sake, like these aren't.
He was around Jewish people he's not really Anti-semitic, but like these things are playing out in real time and he's giving himself a bad rep and it just sucks to see when I know a completely different side of him.
rex jones
So you've been to a bar mitzvah, Sneico?
Yeah man, that's always they.
tim tompkins
They rent, rented out the entire Aquarium right, how fun.
And we're out there in the dance floor like I mean, that's the closest thing you can get to a club when you're in seventh grade and you're just listening and banging out to Katy Peri.
rex jones
Very fun, very fun.
So we've covered that.
I want to get into something serious in the second hour.
I want to talk about geopolitics.
So a lot of people ask me and I think it was, I think it was Pumpste that asked me in the stream last night.
He goes Rex, who are people that you admire, and I had a hard time with that because I was thinking and it's harder to do with living than dead, because you can think of a whole bunch of like really cool, like dead people from history, like Magellan or something like did something really quick sail around the planet.
But I I was thinking of people like Nil Magni.
I was thinking people like Do Dissidents, I was thinking of just like people I respect and kind of arrears and career and careers and fields.
I get my news primarily from two channels.
I get my news primarily from Dialogue Works, which is a guy named Nima runs it.
He's Iranian but he lives in Brazil.
He's in Iran.
Now for this broadcast.
I'm about to play and Judge Napolitano, who used to work at FOX NEWS, used to be actually a co-host with Pete Hegseth.
Pete Heckseth became secretary of war.
Judge Napolitano started doing the best news show ever.
So I highly suggest that you subscribe to both.
Dialogue Works and Judge Napolitano and I wanted to share with you guys a video that I found very interesting and we're going to react to it um, we're going to let it play as well.
Just let some of the points sink in.
This is colonel Lawrence Wilkerson I want to introduce you to.
He was the chief of staff for Colin Powell, who's secretary of state for George Hw Bush.
I believe he was always, or also, involved in the W administration, i'm just not sure in what respect, but this is a very serious guy.
This is a Washington alum, this is a guy who knows what he's talking about, and you've, got a lot of these guys.
You've got a lot of these old State Department DOD UM CIA, FBI guys that are coming out now and really just outright opposing the government and what's going on, because they understand how how much the system has been degraded and how ridiculous it was, because even when they were in charge or when they were running things quote, unquote things were still bad.
We've reached a point of epic decline.
So I just wanted to preface that and give you a little bit of information.
This is going to be really fun.
nima r alkhorshid
We're going to have fun with this tonight, january 20th 2026, and our dear friend, our brother, our great friend i'm not going to say Colonel Wilkerson, is here with us.
Welcome back, Larry.
lawrence wilkerson
Welcome to you for being in Iran and coming here.
nima r alkhorshid
It's amazing.
lawrence wilkerson
You know, I used to do press TV on occasion.
They haven't contacted me in a long time, though.
nima r alkhorshid
Yeah.
I'm using the studio here because of the connection.
As you know, the internal connection, the access, internet access is just working internally.
Seismic Activity and Nuclear Speculations 00:15:49
nima r alkhorshid
But to, you know, to use the to connect with outside is difficult when you're not in, for example, somewhere like Press TV.
They have the access and the people don't have.
Ordinary people don't have that.
And many people, all of the people, this society doesn't have that because of these external manipulations, as you know, has happened during these last week and the week before.
Larry, let me start with the reality of what has happened here in Iran, because I was in Iran, you were in the United States.
We both were witnessing something big happening, even a war breaking out between the two countries, which was of major concern, in my opinion, on my part, because I don't see anything good coming out of a war between the United States and Iran for anybody, not for the United States, not for Iran, not for the region.
What's your assessment?
What's your evaluation of what has happened and what is happening right now, considering the policies for Iran?
lawrence wilkerson
It's almost impossible to ferret out what strategy, if there is any strategy whatsoever, in the current U.S. administration's mind, or I should say, minds.
You see combat power, carrier battle groups, most indicative of it, steaming towards the region.
You see, ostensibly at least, I've heard there have been feelers from Tehran, answered by feelers from Washington, that they should resume talks.
And that's scary because, you know, the precedent we set for that.
On the other hand, the non-combatant evacuation operations from the areas that Iran might strike, like Al-Yudid or some other place like that, Bahrain, have, as I understand it, ceased and they didn't really take that many people out.
There aren't that many people to take out in some cases, but in Bahrain, for example, I would have expected that the fleet headquarters and the supporting places around it would have been evacuated.
That's very okay.
rex jones
So we're not evacuating people from the military bases, at least not large numbers of them like this guy with his decades and decades of military experience.
No, we would expect him to.
tim tompkins
We're sending people over there, actually.
One of my closest friends is literally going to Qatar right now.
rex jones
It's wild.
tim tompkins
I know.
rex jones
I'm like, damn, it's crazy.
Getting geared up.
lawrence wilkerson
Very ripe target, if you will, just as L U D is.
So I don't know how to read these signals.
Are we just posturing in preparation for more dialogue?
Or are we putting dialogue aside completely?
Or are we doing both and using the dialogue as we did before to lull the Iranians into thinking something positive is going to happen other than war?
And then we're going to strike.
And then comes the question of if we strike, how will we strike?
Will it be what I think would be absolutely ineffective other than maybe killing a few people and making a lot of people truly angry again?
Airstrikes.
That's all I can see that we would be bringing to bear.
And what does that mean?
That means Iran has a significant decision to make because the airstrikes are not going to do that much damage unless they're around the clock, seven or eight or 14 days.
And that means three carrier battle groups minimum.
It means flying squadrons into the existing airfields in the region.
I don't know, Nima.
I don't know how to answer your question.
It looks like a bunch of children playing around in my mind.
I don't pretend to know what Exeth is thinking and doing.
And I don't pretend to know what Trump now is thinking and doing because he's been all over the map with regard to Iran.
Everything from saying that he's a non-war loving person to doing what he did before with regard to the B-2s and with regard to the diplomacy that was going on at the time he struck.
There's a very, maybe this is part of his strategy is to keep the Iranians completely on their heels, not to know what's coming or when it's coming.
And then you've got to factor in Netanyahu.
You know, I was looking at the so-called ceasefire and the experiment phase one the other day, and they've killed 30 to 40 to 50 Palestinians a day.
Throw in the West Bank and the turmoil there, maybe close to 100 a day.
So what are we going into in terms of phase two?
And now Netanyahu is saying that because of the cooperation of the Palestinian Authority and the West Bank, things are calming down somewhat.
I don't know how to read that situation anymore either.
We are embarked on what to me looks like a fool's errand with this peace group.
We even have people turning it down.
A billion dollars, I think, to buy your way into being on the peace board.
I don't know, Nima.
I can't.
unidentified
Gonna be a billion billion with the B. If we get a billion, we should be on the peace board too.
rex jones
You know, if you can just buy a seat, and this is the problem.
Everything's financial, right?
It's like, well, you know, Israel, Palestine, they're not able to work things out.
We're going to send the Tony Blinken guy from the UK, and he's going to be the colonial governor, like a guy in India or back in the 1800s.
tim tompkins
But just think about it.
Who actually is going to spend a billion dollars to join this peace board when they're all pissed off with America?
rex jones
That's a good point.
tim tompkins
Like, you've tariffed us.
Yeah, we'll give you guys money to be part of something where we know you're going to make the decisions at the end of the day, anyways.
rex jones
It's all total grift fraud.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
lawrence wilkerson
I don't even pretend to know what's Going on in that region anymore.
nima r alkhorshid
What was so obvious to me here in Iran, the war, it was the way that the Trump administration and those people who are running the show behind the scene when it comes to the, you know, to the mainstream media, to alternative media, X, all of that.
They were pushing somehow to bring the, you know, the son of the former Shah of Iran as an alternative to bring it back, you know, to Iran and seeing that this is an alternative for the future of Iran to somehow convince not only Iranians, but also all these, you know, the Arab states in the region that this is going to be a good option for you as well.
But he doesn't.
tim tompkins
Okay, so like when Suleiman came on, he talked about like how Shah is unpopular, people don't really want him.
Like, yeah, I don't agree with America like handpicking a guy that they've groomed for the last, you know, 10, 15 years or no, really longer than that since he's fled and his family's fled.
But like they've been so far removed from the culture, it's like, well, you need to put somebody who's from there.
rex jones
Well, the thing is, it's like, why do we have to put anyone in there at all?
And he's going to get into this later on in the stream.
Like, Iran is basically the most stable state in the region besides Israel.
nima r alkhorshid
It doesn't seem that anybody can buy that.
I would assume that's the net neo strategy as well.
lawrence wilkerson
I don't think Trump buys it.
From what he said, I don't think he buys it either.
I don't think that is in his plans at all.
In fact, I think he would say that was nonsense.
That he's going to do something Connecticut, Connecticut.
I think I'm fairly sure depends on Bibi Netanyahu.
I don't think Trump really wants a war with Iran.
I don't think he ever has.
I think much of his action is programmed by Miriam Adelson's money and Bibi Netanyahu as a consequence.
I think he would probably like to come to some kind of settlement with Iran that would ricochet across the chambers of the world and be a testimony to another, the ninth war he stopped or whatever.
But Bibi is the unknown in this.
I go back to my previous statements from which I have not withdrawn.
Bibi will not rest until he has attacked Iran in a significant way and brought about, in his mind, regime change and made Iran a vassal state to Israel because it's the only real power.
If you discount Turkey and you discount the other Arab countries that besides Egypt and if Egypt is an Arab country and Jordan and others, if you discount them, the only obstacle to Israel's doing what it wishes to do whenever it wishes to do it in Netanyahu's eyes is Iran.
And he wants it gone.
He wants it a vassal state.
He wants it a subservient state, or if not that, then in disaster, just falling apart, civil war, whatever.
And I don't think Twump can back away from that.
So he's got that to do.
I think this, I don't know if you read about it, but this seismic activity near Demona and some people speculating in the press that it might have been an Israeli nuclear test in some respects.
rex jones
Okay, so you got the Israeli military gathered in Demona, and you got a seismic event, and it's not a big one, it's like a 2.2 or a 2.5 on the Richter scale.
Yeah, but very interesting.
Whenever you see something like that, what they do is underground nuclear testing.
That's how you test a nuclear weapon is you blow it up underground.
So, very, very interesting.
tim tompkins
Yeah, I think the main issue here with Iran is not like all the regime change.
It's really the nuclear weapons.
rex jones
I'm talking, this is Israel.
tim tompkins
Oh, he's talking about Israel.
rex jones
This is in Israel.
They just have a seismic event, right?
Where all the military is.
tim tompkins
We already know they have nukes.
rex jones
Well, yeah, but they could be displaying, you know.
lawrence wilkerson
I understand it was 20 meters underground.
That would be a hell of a chamber.
But it was not necessarily discounted by Israel.
So they're either using it or it was indeed something like that.
And they're trying to threaten whom?
Are they trying to threaten Iran or are they trying to threaten Donald Trump?
Is it Netanyahu using this prospect of his using nuclear weapons as a threat to Donald Trump?
If you don't do it, I'll use a nuclear weapon.
If you don't come and help me do this conventionally, I'll use a nuclear weapon.
I don't know.
I don't even know how to treat this business.
rex jones
And that's the key.
That's the real conversation that I think has happened in the back room, right?
It's like, if you don't help us, like we have nukes, we're going to take care of the problem.
I don't want to do it.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but like that's mutual destruction.
rex jones
They don't care.
You bomb them.
Iran doesn't have a nuke, at least not to explicit knowledge, whereas Israel does.
tim tompkins
So I always, I always say this: anybody who talks about nuclear weapons is just flexing their muscles because they understand the consequences.
I know your Samsun option, all those different things.
rex jones
Okay.
I played the video of the Justin Pollock guy.
I don't want to get the name wrong, but it's the dude who spent like 20 years in a U.S. prison for espionage.
And he was released and he flew back to Israel and kissed the ground and met Netanyahu on the tarmac when he got off the plane.
And that guy, there's an interview where he talks about it.
He goes, look, we were losing the Yung Kippur War.
It was getting really bad.
And we put a certain jet on a certain runway with certain missiles attached to it.
We told the Americans, with your eye in the sky, you need to go look at what's on that jet and see what's going on there.
And like the implicit threat is non-conventional.
That's what the implicit threat is there.
So like this, this is a guy who, after spending 20 years in jail, Netanyahu meets him on the tarmac.
Out of every place in the world, they're the most likely to use them because they got the most dangerous region.
They have the most need to assert control and dominance over the region.
They have the weakest neighbors.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but I think everyone has more things that they would use before going to nukes.
rex jones
I don't know.
tim tompkins
They're a small if Israel, first of all, no one would actually physically invade Israel to take them over.
And if they did, yeah, but it would be a first strike.
rex jones
This, this, like, they just launched Iran.
tim tompkins
No, I know, but like, okay, we have DEF CON one through five, right?
We've been in tons of different conflicts where we've been like, you can say, quote unquote, at risk.
And I know we're different than them.
I know, I knew you were going to say that, but even Israel has been in several conflicts since then.
rex jones
I just gave you an example of when they almost launched.
tim tompkins
No, I know, but I don't even think they would have launched an actual true nuke.
Like, that's a bluff.
Like, we don't even have, we don't even have actual eyes on the ground to see exactly what that was or context to the situation.
It's a hear sign.
rex jones
I'm happy to play the clip.
I mean, this guy spent 20 years in prison for espionage against the United States, gets a pardon, flies to Israel, meets Netanyahu on the tarmac, and then a month after is doing interviews about the threat of a nuclear.
tim tompkins
Totally understand that.
I'm just saying that nuclear option, they have 50 other things that do a crap ton of damage before they would ever actually launch the nuclear.
rex jones
I don't know, 50 billion in property damage in the 12-day war, inability to keep ballistic missiles from hitting them.
I mean, they got it.
It's an existential threat.
They're Amelek.
They have to protect themselves.
It's a theocratic state in the same way that Iran is.
And that's my problem with it.
Right.
And then, but both are not ideal.
Both are not ideal.
I'll go ahead and play more of this.
lawrence wilkerson
This is the negative in this, what was it, 2KT or not 2KT, but two on the Richter scale or whatever seismic event in the negative.
It was in very awkward timing, if you will.
I mean, the Israelis were at Demona.
They were doing things at Demona, and all of a sudden this occurs.
I don't know.
I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past Netanyahu.
I'm told that previously, the reason he got Trump to do what he did with regard to the nuclear weapon sites in Iran and other things that we did, like help Israel make its strikes, its airstrikes.
unidentified
The reason he want to go ahead and play this.
Dangerous Nuclear Implications 00:04:19
rex jones
Give me one second here.
I just want to go ahead and reference it because this is the video that I'm referencing.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
And this is a guy doing an interview.
This isn't controversial.
This isn't a conspiracy theory.
This isn't, you know, us disparaging anybody.
This, this is what this guy says.
So I'm going to go ahead and roll this again.
jonathan pollard
Admit this.
We are now feeding our enemy.
unidentified
I mean, this has never happened in history before.
jonathan pollard
And you have to ask why.
And I don't want to hear this business that is consistent with Jewish morality.
It isn't.
Anybody saying that doesn't know anything about Jewish morality at all?
Let me bring you back to October 1973 during the Yom Kippur War when Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against us.
unidentified
And what happened?
jonathan pollard
What happened was an A-4 Skyhawk was parked at Tel North Air Base with some interesting weapons under its wings.
And we told the Americans, take your eye in the sky and take a good look at the airplane that's on that runway.
And the next day, the airlifts started to Israel.
The arms era.
unidentified
So in other words, we threatened their weapons.
jonathan pollard
I'll leave it at that.
unidentified
And so he said, is this what you're that part right there?
tim tompkins
Unconventional weapons does not mean like we're filling in the gaps.
Come on.
We're filling in the gaps.
rex jones
Oh, man.
I still think we would have done what does that mean?
A dookie rocket?
What does it mean?
tim tompkins
I still don't think they would ever go nukes.
And I'll say the last thing on this specifically is the people that were in power then during 1973, it's a whole different ballgame now in which there's more at stake in which countries would make different decisions now.
rex jones
Well, I mean, Netanyahu facing corruption charges, facing the dissolution of his government, October 7th happens, Gaza war happens, boom, now he's in power.
What better way to entrench yourself in power?
tim tompkins
Well, one other thing is, is yes, if he keeps the war going on in Gaza and such, he doesn't have to, but you know, he was unpopular before he actually started the conflict, right?
Like they were looking at getting rid of him.
So I'm saying like the new positions of powers and whoever is in the government system are not the same people that were in power during the 70s, in which they would have even considered doing that.
I think the stakes have changed now to where they wouldn't consider that.
rex jones
I agree to disagree.
unidentified
It's fine.
lawrence wilkerson
He came along and agreed to do that was because Netanyahu threatened to use a nuclear weapon if you did.
I wouldn't put that a foot past Netanyahu.
So these are dangerous implications in my mind, these nuclear implications.
And I hope I'm wrong.
I hope that was just a seismic event, a small earthquake or something.
But it uh it brings me back to the proposition.
unidentified
I've I think I discussed it with you one time.
lawrence wilkerson
Had I been Iran, I'd have made a nuclear weapon.
Yeah, I would have built one and I would have said, Here it is.
Okay, now we have a standoff.
Let's uh stop doing what we're doing.
Uh, we're here to stay.
You seem to be alluding to the fact that you're there to stay.
I'm not sure that's true anymore.
unidentified
Um, but they didn't, they didn't.
lawrence wilkerson
So that's always had that Trump card.
nima r alkhorshid
I think your take is making sense to me because Netneo really wants to influence Donald Trump.
He wants to convince him that this war would be a game changer for the United States.
And it's not just about what Netneel is militarily trying to do, but you look at the way that they're playing with the son of the show of Iran.
Our Media Is Lost 00:06:03
nima r alkhorshid
I looking at what he's doing, and I don't know if you saw his interview on Fox News.
He said, just go strike Iran.
It doesn't matter, Israel or the United States, go and do it.
And it's all about making new wars, Larry.
It's all about starting a new war.
And they're hoping that out, you know, the outcome of this war would be beneficial to Israel primarily and then to the United States.
The problem is the reality of what's going on in Iran and what you see in the mainstream media outside of Iran, they're not even comparable.
They're not even close.
lawrence wilkerson
Nima, our media is lost.
In the United States, our media is lost.
It is either a wholesale proponent and doesn't even know it in some cases of the government and shields its line like it was a grifter itself, or it's completely out of touch.
And it's, as we've discussed before, it's completely out of touch because they no longer have international sections.
They no longer have people on the ground.
I was interested this morning in seeing a piece in the online New York Times about Venezuela by someone who actually knows and has lived in Venezuela.
They found him.
I think he's a Russian, but he's been in and out of Venezuela a lot.
So he wrote a piece for the Times this morning.
That's the first time the Times, the gray lady, the newspaper with all the news that's fit to print, has said anything cogent about Venezuela because they have no one on the ground.
And that's true of every media source in America virtually.
So they don't know what's going on.
So what do they do?
They take the CIA, they take the government, they take whatever spokesman comes out and gives them the story at their word and they print it.
So we don't have a media in this country.
We don't have anything in this country in terms of a media other than what you're doing now, what podcasts do and alternative.
rex jones
So that's Colonel Orrance Wilkerson.
unidentified
Like him.
rex jones
That's one of the guys I suggest y'all check out alongside of Ray McGovern, alongside of Pepe Escobar, alongside of Judge Napolitano, and just all kinds of people like this, who am I trying to think of Larry Johnson, my favorite Larry Johnson.
So Dialogue Works, Josh Napolitano's channel, that's where I find a lot of the true news.
You can disagree with what people say, but the point is they have pundits on from U.S., from overseas, from anywhere and everywhere.
And it's like Wilkerson says, we don't have a media here.
Really do not.
So, in order to get a real perspective on global geopolitical things happening, you really do have to go either outside of the country or you have to go to someone that was involved in the country and like NEMA.
He's outside of the country.
He's Brazilian, Iranian.
And then you have Wilkerson, who, of course, served under George H.W. Bush and under George Bush.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
And we're going to try to bring more people like these, like experts onto the show.
rex jones
We'd love to have him as a guest.
tim tompkins
Thursday, we have the SEAL coming on, right?
Or is that going to be the new?
rex jones
He rain-checked.
It's going to be next week.
tim tompkins
Next week.
rex jones
Next week.
He rain-checked.
unidentified
No worries.
It's all good.
tim tompkins
But we will have Stein.
rex jones
Yes.
And Tim's got even more guests lined up.
You want to reveal any of that?
tim tompkins
We got a gentleman named Simon.
Very big deal.
Dixon.
He is a crypto finance, big guy on X, very insightful, very knowledgeable about a lot of things.
We'll have him.
And then Ella Molding.
unidentified
Molda.
tim tompkins
Molding.
rex jones
Malding.
tim tompkins
Malding.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Ella Malding will be on here in about like a couple of weeks as well.
So we are working on getting these people on the pipeline, but I'm really excited for Alex Stein coming up on Sunday specifically.
You guys need to, you know, get some people to join us on that night as well.
Tell your friends, tell your people about it.
That would be awesome from everybody watching the stream.
But yeah, I really like these types of people because they give you context, because they've been in the experience, especially people have been in previous like office positions to where they like actually know details that the average.
rex jones
Well, he was the chief of staff for the secretary of state.
Yeah, that's a re, that's a.
You know, that's not a minor position to hold.
So I I I really like that.
I found it to be informative.
I suggest you check out Dialogue Works.
We will be here thursday and sunday doing a three plus hour show for you guys.
Like we said, we're going to interview Alex Stein, I believe that 730 p.m central.
He may join us at eight or a little bit after, but you're going to want to be here for that interview and it's like Tim said, you're going to want to share it, repost it.
tim tompkins
We really appreciate it when you do yes, we do yes, we do indeed, and uh, on the show, like we said, you know, at the beginning, you know there's certain things that, like we joke about in general, the gray area just we're, we're just about just having conversations and, as you see, Rex and I don't agree on everything, but it never stops us from having the conversation discussions, debates.
rex jones
It's all fun, it's all fair game here on the gray area.
tim tompkins
So thank you, guys.
We appreciate you.
Uh, thank you.
rex jones
Thank you for being here tonight.
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