Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins - RED ALERT: World Corruption? - Bongino's Back Podcasting! Gray Area LIVE #38

Jan. 7, 2026 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins

02:07:06

RED ALERT: World Corruption? - Bongino's Back Podcasting! Gray Area LIVE #38

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Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect Dan Bongino’s FBI exit, his broken Epstein file promises, and Trump’s Venezuela oil deal—30–50M barrels sold at market price with proceeds controlled by Trump, sparking imperialist debates. They critique Massie’s welfare fraud claims, clash over abortion as a "crime against humanity" vs. preventing future harm, and preview SOL’s Middle East expertise despite personal tensions. Ending with a nod to open dialogue, they pivot to promoting elemental drive, their ashwagandha-fortified supplement, framing it as a unifying health solution amid political divisions. [Automatically generated summary]
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rex jones

infowars 59:09

tim tompkins

40:29

Appearances

andy luger

00:45

dan bongino

admin 00:48

donald j trump

admin 01:00

lou raguse

02:11

rob olson

01:46

russel crowe

00:57

steve witkoff

00:58

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lindsey graham

sen/r 00:15

thomas massie

rep/r 00:13

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Speaker	Time	Text
Bongino Situation Revealed 00:03:07
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What's up, guys?
		Welcome to Gray Area Live 38.
		Tim and Rex, Rex and Tim, Rex Jones, Tim Thompkins, sitting here enjoying our evening.
unidentified		Ruby in Max.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going over a few things, and we want tonight to just be a chill stream.
		We might take a call, we might take two.
		It just depends if you call in.
		And like, this is what I was just talking to you about right before we went live.
		Straight smoke, I think it was you, or maybe it was like Mr. Awake or something like that.
		He begs for the call-in number.
		And then we get the call-in number.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And then it's not Straight Smoke.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's Mr. Awake.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Awake for sure.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Shout out to you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to you, Rudy.
unidentified		Appreciate you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got some great posts.
		Really enjoy seeing your stuff on X.
		And welcome to the show tonight.
		We have a selection of geopolitical news.
		We want to talk about the Bongino situation, him leaving the FBI.
		Now he's tough posting on Twitter and acting like he has like a million foot-long dude.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Rudy, check your DMs, man.
unidentified		You were one of the winners.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get Rudy some primal core.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Rudy, you're supposed to get some primal core.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're going to respond to your DM.
unidentified		I sent it to you.
		Nice.
		Badass.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But we got the Bongino thing.
		And I don't know, like, what is your knowledge of Dan Bongino, Tim?
		Do you know anything about the guy?
		Like, like before 2024?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, before 2024, he was random Joe Schmo to me.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And how did you find out about him?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Really, when he got elected into his position, to be honest.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And then when he started messing up with the Epstein files, is when I really started paying attention.
unidentified		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So my history with Bongino goes back way back.
		I remember him being on InfoWars in like 2012 and me being like a 10-year-old watching him.
		Like I legit remember that.
		He used to co-host or host the fourth hour.
		And when I was like 17, sitting around at InfoWars doing stuff in the IT.
unidentified		He was a regular, regular.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember like sitting.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember sitting at the computer, like in the IT room and looking up at the TV that was playing the show on loop and seeing Dan Bongino's face.
unidentified		That's crazy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And to go from that and to go from like the ultimate, like, I'm going to expose Epstein and like the pedophile person, like once I get into office, to go from that to then being the guy that goes, I've seen the file.
unidentified		He killed himself.
unidentified		He killed himself.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you just have to go like, man, like that was, he was one of the cases that really disappointed me the most in the entire Trump administration.
unidentified		I did see those.
		Right.
		I did see the podcast where there's something, something's off, something's missing.
		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you know, he also like talks weird.
		There's another clip of him, and I don't have it pulled up.
		Maybe I'll find it.
		Maybe I won't.
		But like, I've definitely retweeted it in the past.
		And it's him being interviewed by this woman.
		And she goes, like, what cause is near and dear to your heart?
		And like, you, if I ask you that question, it might be God, family, whatever.
Promises Broken 00:03:03
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He goes, uh, Israel, Israel.
unidentified		Like, like, no way.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Instantaneous.
		Like, like, and it's like the love and like defense of Israel, too.
		So, like, he, I don't know.
		There's some political programming that goes on with these people.
unidentified		No way he said that.
		That's crazy.
		Yeah.
		I swear.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I swear it's on video.
		But that's not what's important.
		What's important is he got into office and he literally, like, you want to talk about promises kept, promises broken.
		And the Trump administration always says promises made, promises kept.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's no bigger promise broken than the Epstein file.
		That everything else, if Trump was doing everything else bad and continuing the wars and we're still having problems with the economy and money, but if he had released the file, everyone would be jumping for joy, right?
		Like people would be like, okay, Trump is badass.
		Like he's actually for real.
		He did the one thing we wanted him to do.
unidentified		Yep.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And what did we get?
unidentified		We got black screens.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And beyond even that, we got the team of people, Cash and Dan, who promised to do that job.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then when they got into the authority, they didn't do anything about it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And now the man in the black suit showed up and said, better shut your mouth, boy.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Literally.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's that's very true.
		And I think that's plainly apparent.
		But we're going to get into that.
		We're going to get into Massey in the congressional race where Trump has endorsed this Navy SEAL candidate.
		You know, like, that's what they do is they just like they find a highly qualified military guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Like, you're going to run.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're going to give you like 20 million and pack money.
		Like, you're going to destroy the other guy.
		And he's like, yes, sir, yes, sir.
		And then you're going to serve your country.
unidentified		You're going to be pro-war.
		Yes, sir.
		Yes, sir.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, that's what goes down, right?
		So I think Massey will still win.
		And we're going to cover that and go through some of the dirt that's been slung on one side to another.
		And then what do you have, Tim?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Trump potentially, I think he actually is doing this.
		He's pausing $10 billion to programs for five states because of this Somalia, Minnesota episode.
		So states are fighting back.
		It's going to be a pretty big showdown.
		I'm sure there's going to be a lot of lawsuits, more to come out.
		This was definitely recent.
		The states in question, we got, they're all Democratic, of course.
unidentified		Why would it be red?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, and New York.
		These are the states that they're going to, I guess, get their funding because of suspicion.
		Basically, he's saying you guys are misappropriating the money.
		You guys don't have any real proper checks and balances on how you guys are operating and who's getting the money where.
		So we're just going to hold the money back.
		So yeah, that's what we're going to cover.
		We're going to cover that much later.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm retweeting the stream.
		I'm not playing around on my phone.
		We want to make sure, like, if you guys are watching this, like, repost it.
Seeking Dynamic Guests 00:04:01
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I got some other people who, if you guys are in, I DM'd some people.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Maureen Johnson, I hit you up.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'm really interested.
		And I know this, this Venezuelan guy, he's really smart.
		He's very politically aware.
		I really want to get him to call in.
		I'm just waiting on a text back.
		Apparently, like he was asleep our last show that we did.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So he's not coming tonight, though.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I don't think so.
unidentified		I don't think so.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that would be nice.
		I mean, the thing is, it's cool to get badass guests and people that have big audiences, right?
		And like, that's what we want for the show.
		We also want to talk to people that are just interested in what we're talking about, number one, in regards to having a gray area, an open dialogue, a Socratic discussion of what goes on.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we want to talk to people that are experts, right?
		Like, you don't have to be the liver king, right?
		We, you know, we don't require that.
		All we need you to be is someone with specialized knowledge who, like we all as a collective, can positively profit from right, that's 100.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's that's exactly what we want and we're gonna try to bring those guests to you on a weekly basis um, as the show is growing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But everybody who tuned in last live man that was, that was nuts yeah, it was nuts really enjoyed that live, for that was that was incredible.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, Fishback really impressed me and we talked about it after the show and, like you know, he really reminded me of Chase Geyser, like and I I know Chase right, like I i've i've known Chase in person.
		Right, it's like the mannerisms, the glasses the, the fast talking but being like on target and knowing what you're talking about, but being very passionate and like the, the tone of voice where it's very intentional and they talk like this right, like Chase and Fishback both kind of had that going for them and I like I hope he does.
		Well, he has my endorsement for what it's worth and it was a phenomenal interview and we're going to be doing a really high quality interview uh, this sunday that y'all really aren't going to want to miss.
		You are going to want to tune into that?
unidentified		Yes, we are.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Um, we can show his profile later and bring yeah, um.
		And then also on thursday, we're having uh, Aaron Baker.
		He's also running for another seat in Florida.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's running against Randy Fine yes, the uh, biggest Israel supporter.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So if you guys are catching this right now, tune in on thursday night around 8 p.m. Eastern uh, central standard time.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You guys can catch that interview as well.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Um, like I said, 2026 new Year, New Us, all right yes, and to add to that, I didn't do it monday because I had to run back down to east Texas on some emergency business, but mondays and fridays I will be doing a solo show out of here.
		It's still going to be GRAY AREA, GRAY AREA Affiliated, might have a different name, might just be my name and then, like Rex X, GRAY Area or however however, it's going to work Monday through Friday, or Monday and Friday, I'm going to do a show.
		It'll be like a two to three hour show, and we're going to cover a lot of health stuff, a lot of supplement news, a lot of information on supplements.
		And I'm going to cover some more sloppy stuff than we usually talk about because Tim really likes the clinical information source gathering type of thing, right?
		And for me, I like to see Mark Levin crash out.
		I like to see Cernovich cry on Twitter.
		I like to see other things.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a beautiful contrast.
		This is precisely why the show works.
		If we were the same person, then this wouldn't work for you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm saying is I'm going to bring both slop and really high quality information.
		It'll just be its own unique thing.
		It'll be Rex X Gray Area.
		It's going to be a really enjoyable show to shoot.
		And the goal is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then Sunday again.
		You guys will have us to watch and us to listen to if you choose to.
unidentified		We can't get rid of us.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing is, is like we want to give people the opportunity to tune in whenever they want.
Trump's Oil Play 00:15:39
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And typically when we do a show, we're talking about things happening now, right?
		We're providing like news, relevant information, and so much has happened this year already.
		So if you want to hear, like, if there's a latest update to give, regardless of what the topic of the show will be, we'll always give that latest update.
unidentified		Yes, we will.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Regardless of what day it is.
		So by being live more, we give more of an opportunity to you guys to see stories develop and emerge rapidly.
		Like we got a new thing and we might as well lead up to it.
		I mean, Trump's making new announcements about the oil in Venezuela that we now own.
unidentified		No one's looking for these updates.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So if we want to get into this right now, let's go ahead and get into this.
		So Justin, Trump says Venezuela will be turning in over 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the United States of America sold at market price with the money controlled by Trump.
		I am pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the United States of America.
		This oil will be sold at its market price and that money will be controlled by me.
unidentified		Crazy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am the judge.
unidentified		It is my money.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This hurts my soul.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, dude.
		It's just, you never, I didn't think this was like, I didn't think, well, I just didn't think the administration would be this like open and nuts, but they are.
		As president of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States, I have asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately.
		It will be taken by storage ships and brought directly to the unloading docks in the United States.
		Thank you for your attention to this matter, DJT.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to lie, dude, this is sad.
		Yeah, it's not like just like, this isn't like me just trying to be like critical of Trump and like the Republicans and all that stuff.
		Like, this is really not a bipartisan issue for me.
		It's just strictly just looking at it from like a fundamental issue of just like, we're exerting power.
		Like other times, you know, I've seen it in history and we've seen the stuff like, you know, what the U.S. has done or these colonial powers have done.
		But like with social media and just seeing it play out live, it kind of hits you harder.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's think about it for a second, right?
		Like everything that's happening now, I've seen people like Fuentes and like my father and have come out with like real strong support for it, right?
		Because they say, hey, like if we're going to be imperialist, we might as well do something that's in our own interest, right?
unidentified		This is, this is basically what I've heard of.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This is what I've heard.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what he said too.
		And like I have my politics, I'm morally against that.
		So I can't support that position, nor would I vote for it, really.
		But here's my thinking on it.
		I just, we, we had like the ideal scenario, right?
		Like we got him out of there, no American casualties.
		It was a smooth operation.
		And oh, the president can do it because of the war powers act and it's not 60 days.
		It's in and out, but it won't be in and out.
		It won't be.
		I mean, what does it say right here?
		The interim authorities of Venezuela.
		Who comes over and says, I'm going to be in charge now?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We made it a territory.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		I mean, this is our new Puerto Rico, baby.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Literally, though.
		And then getting into that and bringing up Greenland as a new example that they're also talking about again.
		And everyone, the first time he talked about it was like, ha ha ha.
		Now that this has happened, I mean, there are 50,000 people.
		I mean, we could be over there and be like, give us America.
unidentified		Give us your oil.
		Give us your rare minimums.
		We'll take it all.
		Thank you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's my thing.
		I'm incredibly critical of the American military.
		I'm incredibly critical of the American military's capabilities in regards to like power scaling versus the other ones.
		I think the other ones are more powerful than we give them credit for.
		And I think we've depleted a lot of our resources.
		That being said, the operation in Venezuela has people on the right talking about this like it's a good thing because like I saw due dissidents make this point.
		MAGA isn't necessarily anti-war, referring to Trump's MAGA.
		MAGA is anti-like prolonged interaction.
unidentified		It's easy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		MAGA is not.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Look, all this stuff is easy when you're not on the receiving end.
		So like for us to sit here, take that position and be like, okay, hoorah, America first.
		It's like for the people who are doing that, you got to understand on the macro psychology of this, this comes to haunt us down the road.
		Just keep in mind, okay?
		When you have a bully in the room and you take things to an extreme, people silently make moves in the background and they clock it and it becomes your new reality.
unidentified		In reference to what?
unidentified		Excuse me.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about all the things that we're doing right now.
		Bullying Venezuela into giving us their oil, which is fine if you're going to sit there and be like, well, it's America's oil.
		No, it's not.
		Like they literally, it's their resource in their government.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
		Imagine saying, okay, our companies did developmental work in a country and then that country kicked them out.
		Therefore, our companies having worked there and done that developmental work, we can come back in and take it over.
unidentified		But we don't get it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And not only can we take it over, it belongs to us.
unidentified		It's our oil.
		You don't get kicked out.
		It belongs to us.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Where there's smoked, there's fire.
		You don't get kicked out for no reason.
		Are you kidding me?
		If you're bringing money to a territory and you're doing right by the people and it's a mutual benefit, people just break deals all of a sudden for no reason.
		Unless you really had some psycho get into power, which people can make that claim for certain things, but we weren't doing the best thing by Venezuela at that time point either.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, and if you look at it now, like, what do we need the fuel for?
		We need it for diesel.
		That would be number one, like from the national security perspective.
		Like they have the heavy that gets turned into diesel primarily.
		And like, that's a really good thing for us to have access to.
		And then number two, they're selling, I think, like 60% of their oil or something to China, right?
		So then we take over control of that.
		And that's, that's a point I heard someone on Fox News on the radio make.
		And like they're like chortling happy about it.
		And they're like, well, that means no invasion of Taiwan because we got the oil.
unidentified		No, they'll still do it.
		I know.
		They'll still do it.
		That's the thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like, but now that it's been rationalized, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, why wouldn't Putin just go in and theoretically, I don't think he has the capability to, but just go take Zelensky.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So I got to address this.
		Straight smoke, I get where you're coming from.
		Like you're saying, think about what I'm saying when it comes to bullying.
		There's when you're exerting force and you're making a situation happen by your will, it is considered textbook bullying.
		If we force Greenland to give us resources and put pressure on them, even though they have no obligation.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's You use the word bullying.
		Let's just use a technical term like it's imperialist.
		Like we're building empire, right?
		And like everyone likes to compare America to Rome.
		America is very Roman, and we're leaving a period of being an actual functioning for whatever it's worth.
		Maybe it never functioned republic into being an actual empire.
		And I love Trump for a decade straight.
		Me criticizing him now comes from a place of great pain because he was the only political figure I ever truly believed in, right?
		Because I was brought up to question all these people, but I end up falling for Trump because I believe he's like the third party ascension route out of here.
		And they just give him the Reagan deal and say, hey, run the country into the ground, take over everything, be the new Reagan, and we'll keep you safe.
		We won't release Epstein files.
unidentified		You know, you'd be fine.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I think he took that deal.
		And him taking that deal is the biggest betrayal to me as just a voter.
		And it makes me say, why would I care about the party?
		What has the party ever done for you or me?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		On either side.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, like, I think we're in an age where people need to stop calling themselves Democrats or Republicans.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I see where people are like, oh, well, this is America first policy.
		We're getting the oil for ourselves.
		Look, we could be America first by also making deals that work out for us long term instead of creating rubble in the pathway.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this makes people hate us.
		And it's, it's, we have another slide here, but it's always the example of a terrorist, right?
		Like, if your father got blown up in a drone strike by the U.S. government and you're like eight years old and you see his like head roll down the street, you would want to fight and kill Americans, right?
		And like, that's that's reasonable, it's rational, doesn't make it moral, but you have a clear logic of okay, X thing happened, Y thing happened.
		Drone strike, blowing up a building, drone strike, suicide bomb.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And can't we just look at history?
		Like, we're thinking like our brains are so developed that we're significantly different than the people who did it a thousand years ago.
		Humans are habitual.
		The brain composition hasn't changed much.
		It didn't work out for all those other countries that did this.
		Rome is a perfect example.
		Great Britain is a perfect example.
		And eventually every dog has its day and we have to have a reckoning.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they say is empires in 250 years old, right?
		Having a hard time getting over that hump.
		I think it'll be interesting from an imperialist perspective of being like a smart play to take over a weak country with no nuclear weapons.
		I mean, if there are no rules, obviously in a game of civilization, that's probably the best move you can make, right?
		But it's not a game of civilization.
		There is international law and these things should matter.
		And this is what I believe.
		And ultimately, people will cheer for it and go, ooh, rah, but because of the Israel stuff and because of the Epstein stuff, we're going to lose midterms and then we're going to lose in 2028.
		And then there'll be a Democratic president with all these powers and more.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And they'll reverse half of these things, by the way.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's beyond anything.
		I mean, look at this next slide.
		Trump demands Venezuela kick out China and Russia, partner only with U.S. on oil exclusive.
		The White House sets demands for Venezuela to pump more oil.
		So we took over their country.
		Like we literally took over their country.
		The Trump administration has told Venezuela's interim president, Dulcy Rodriguez, that the regime must meet their White House demands before being allowed to pump more oil, according to the three people familiar with the administration's plan.
		First, the country must kick out China, Russia, Iran, and Cuba and sever economic ties.
		The sources said, second, Venezuela must agree to partner exclusively with the U.S. on oil production and favor America when selling heavy crude.
unidentified		80-20.
unidentified		It's a good deal for you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trust me.
unidentified		Trust me.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I take 80% because I deserve it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It makes him out of that house.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Only saving grace for this situation working out is if after you replace the people with who you want, if you're actually helping the country by a symbiotic relationship.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing I can see that saves us is the lifeline.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just like from the conversations with people that I've had that are actually Venezuelan, from what they told me, and it's what I've said on the show a few times, and I've definitely told it to you or said it to you, excuse me.
		The rich ones left when Maduro came in power, millions of them left.
		And by rich, just meaning anyone with any money, really.
		And then you had that underclass and that got subsidized with the oil money and they liked Maduro, right?
		Because they actually got some of the subsidized oil money.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Versus you have a fifth of your country leave.
		Those are probably the people that really hate you the most, right?
		So who do we send back in there to rule that place?
		A person that left?
		And like, that's what Trump said about Machado.
unidentified		He's like, I don't know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have the support.
		She doesn't have the support.
		People just don't like her.
		And like, that's very strong language, but it's true, right?
		Like, people see her as a collaborator with the West.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And if you put somebody in that you're not, that the people are not going to agree with, you just get the same situation over again.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, you're completely right on that.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They have to put somebody in that makes sense and that actually gels and that they can control properly to give the U.S. the benefits that it needs while also allowing the country to act within its own sovereignty to actually flourish.
		Here's my issue as well.
		I don't like China and Russia having interest in Venezuela.
		Of course, like if it's the biggest oil reserve and let's say we have to go to war and like all that stuff, you don't want them having access at that point, right?
		Especially not in your own hemisphere where they can set up bases.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, and I hear that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that like I, that's I can understand the thing is you go to Congress and you ask them to do it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's my, they would never, though.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I know, It would be useless at that point.
unidentified		I know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he just decided to do it and that makes it okay because there was a good result.
		And like, this, this is the problem.
		I know you're not making that argument.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you're just laying stuff out, but, but for me, here's my thing.
		On this, I disagree with my father like a trillion percent, right?
		Like he thinks it's justified.
		I think it's wrong.
		When it comes to Candace Owens thing, I agree with my dad 100%.
		And then I'll get attacked from people on both sides of those positions for no reason.
unidentified		You see what I'm saying?
		Damned if you do damn stuff.
		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like for me, I just look at it and I'm like, this isn't the peace president that I voted for.
		I voted for no more wars.
		I voted for an end to the mRNA shot.
		And I didn't get any of that.
		So like, I'm allowed to be angry about that.
		I know, like, what's your calculation on what he's done here in the short and long term for the country and like success rate?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Us as a nation?
unidentified		Well, no, no, no.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like our takeover of Venezuela, how long that lasts and the success rate.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, oh, this is, this is going to play out over decades.
unidentified		Okay.
		You think so?
		Yeah.
		I think so.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We're going to put people in place.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		People are going to forget about this in like 10, 15, 20 years.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And it'll be a country that's more favorable towards America because the people that follow will be like, they'll know not to do what Maduro did.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the thing is like half of South America, we've pretty much already co-opted.
		And then like, what are the, what are the other countries supposed to think that it's not supposed to happen to them?
		That we're not just going to take the whole thing over and make everything a territory.
		And you got to keep in mind the history of those places.
		Those are revolutionary republics that overthrew like Spain and Portugal.
unidentified		You know, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like they're, they're a lot like us in their guard of like, they don't want colonial rule.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So you look at like certain countries, let's say territories like Puerto Rico, they get the benefit of having the America, you know, the dollar and having like access to America and all these different things while also keeping their right.
		Like that only scenario that I could were to absorb, quote unquote.
		Not like making them U.s citizens.
		I'm not suggesting that whatsoever.
		I'm saying we're gonna make a bunch of new voters.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're all gonna love me because i'm taking their Biden Reverse Uno card, nice.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So all i'm saying is, like it makes sense for, like us to have the interest at this point.
		It's the damage is done.
		Like I don't even for me to sit here and complain.
		I'm like all right, just do it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We can't, we can't do anything about it and it's it's not, it's not our fault right, like we didn't, as Americans, decide and wake up one day and be like man, I really hope Maduro is in New New York City getting arraigned, like like I really want to see him in the back of a van.
Rebuilding Ukraine's Future 00:09:21
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like I, no American wanted that besides the people in the situation room and they did it and it's impressive and I I don't think anyone can say it wasn't an impressive military operation, right.
		But just because something is cool doesn't mean that it's good.
		Like if you watch like I don't I, I don't know, i'm trying to think of a good example if you watch a horror movie and you're like wow, that's good that just because, like it's still a horror movie fantastic, you know, it's the best one i've ever seen.
		But they're not supposed to do that.
		Man and a bunch of people died.
		And you can argue like, should those people have died?
		You know, and you like countries are they sovereign or are they like all American America's little children, that we can go like curb stomp unless you have nukes right, and like that's why China Russia Israel, that's why they get special treatment right, it's because they have nuclear weapons and 30 million people.
		Ukraine has a population of, like I heard as low as 19 million now, but you got 30 million in Venezuela.
		Our government looks at that and says hey, we can take that over.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not just that, it's like you look at the technology they have for military, like right, there are countries that don't have nukes, but like you still wouldn't go and invade them like uh, like a South Korea, you know, because their military is so strong.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So it's like there's nothing they can do to actually.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the fat woman with the ak is not enough.
		The torto with the ak is, it doesn't have enough ap, doesn't have enough armor penetration right, when you send the delta force down and into the no Bueno, me Presidente.
		No damn okay, that's a funny, that's a funny mental picture, if you just think about it for a while here we'll read this from Nimrod Pod really quick, uh Glenn, Beck and Alex made the argument that 70 of China's Non-us Controlled oil supply comes from Venezuela and Russia.
		Quote, so if we topple the Venezuelan and Iranian regimes at the same time uh, they won't be able to invade Taiwan.
		But what they didn't mention is that only 13 of Chinese oil comes from Venezuela.
unidentified		It comes from Russia.
		Right yeah oh, it does.
		Yeah okay good, I didn't even read the rest.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean that that's, that's very, that's very detailed.
		I, I agree with you, man.
		I mean, like I don't, I don't, I don't trust Patrick Burn, like I don't trust CIA people, you know, and like it's everyone's wet dream to take this place over and save it because it's the greatest place ever, has the greatest people ever.
		But there's evil mob bosses we have.
		We have to beat them and defeat them, when in reality it's just like one of the richest places on earth and we want to take it over.
		Why, like Fuentes is like happy about it for that reason, like why can't we just be honest about why we're doing it, right.
		That's why I disagree with it is because, number one, you're lying to me about it, which means that, even if you're going to give me your real justification for it like like, it's based on nothing, right?
		You understand what i'm saying?
unidentified		Yeah, does that make sense?
unidentified		Does make sense like?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what i'm saying there?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like I, i'm trying to get that across because it is cool right, it is cool.
unidentified		Delta six, yeah, it is cool.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Task force buddy, It is cool, but like, and that's the, that's the, the, that's the rough part is like, it's cool because you can see, like America, when they actually really want to do something, like how powerful we actually are, you know.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		So what's the situation?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's take a look at this.
		I mean, this is directly related to what we're talking about because this is the end.
		This is like what we're seeing in Venezuela.
unidentified		It's the start.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's an incubator.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just a tiny little caterpillar making its first steps on a leaf, right?
unidentified		Hold on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So Mr. Wick said Taiwan is going to vote for unification.
		There are younger people all for it.
		China doesn't have to do it.
		I actually will agree.
		There's a lot of people in Taiwan.
		I know a guy who's one of my friends, Taiwanese, and he was like, I don't really care if they absorb us.
		So it's like some of it is a little bit of our like Western propaganda that we can't let the chips go to them.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I want to get into this because it's relevant to what we're discussing here as a whole.
		And we talk about Venezuela just being a start.
		Like we're just now getting in there.
		We've been in Ukraine for almost four years at this point.
		I think coming up in February, it'll be four years.
		This is the end goal of all this stuff.
		It's all about making a deal to sell off the destroyed country because we got to rebuild it.
		We got to build back better, like Joe Biden said.
		Like we got to make tens or hundreds of billions of dollars extracting the wealth of the country as we as we rebuild it.
		And then we own your agriculture.
		We own your water.
		We own your oil.
unidentified		We own everything.
steve witkoff ▲ ● ▼		And like, which are important so that the people of Ukraine know.
unidentified		And no people deserve this.
unidentified		And this ends.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, I rag on the Ukrainians, right?
		And like, I don't mean to rag on Ukrainian people.
		I rag on their military, but like, no people deserve to be raped like this.
		I mean, these are two Americans, right?
		Coming to your country, meeting with an American company to discuss the future of your land, your natural resources, your home.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And we can't even comprehend it because it's never happened to us, except if you go like 250 years ago.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we're happy to do this to everybody around the globe.
steve witkoff ▲ ● ▼		It ends forever.
		But we also think critically that we are very, very close to finishing up as robust a prosperity agreement as any country has ever seen coming out of conflicts like this.
		It will aspirationally mean large, large possibilities to the Ukrainian people, for people coming home from war who will find wonderful jobs out there.
		We're working with BlackRock, Larry Fink in this endeavor.
unidentified		Oh, who's that?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like the second richest man in the world, controls everything.
unidentified		Think of evil.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Can't let a good opportunity go to waste now, can we?
unidentified		Oh, no.
steve witkoff ▲ ● ▼		And we think it's going to be very, very important for the people of Ukraine.
		And we believe that a robust economy correlates and works directly with these security protocols.
		It makes Ukraine a strong, independent nation.
		And we think that's really important in terms of the long-term future.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's actually big news.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they're signing a security guarantee agreement.
unidentified		Really?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think this becomes a net positive for Ukraine.
unidentified		I'm not going to say that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, they're close to a prosperity agreement.
unidentified		Yeah, which Ukraine.
unidentified		I'm going to be honest.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I don't think this is a net negative.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, someone's got to do it, right?
		Yeah, I was going to say, I think I'm just saying the people won't own it.
		You know, it's and that's the ceiling of their birthright.
unidentified		It is.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And that's like from the moral standpoint.
		But if I just look at it from like just a purely analytical standpoint, like if Ukraine were to try to do all this on its own, like let's say they didn't even go to war, right?
		And they didn't have to even rebuild and they were just a sovereign nation as is.
		The development of what they're doing plus the corruption that they have.
unidentified		Yes.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		A lot of the people weren't even getting the benefits anyways.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So if the United States from being more corrupt to the definition of corruption.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, but we do legal corruption.
unidentified		It's different.
		It's different.
		Well, I think.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But like legal corruption doesn't stop the people from enjoying the resources and the things.
		Cause like, you know, even though I could sit here and complain about corruption in our country, you know, we have really nice outdoor areas and everything's super well developed.
		And like, you know, you go walk around Austin and it just feels like bliss, you know?
		So like part of that comes from the fact of like America has so much money and we pour so many resources for every shiny thing you see every test or every like every Apple Watch.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like a nine-year-old like lithium or cobalt miner that's having to get the thing to make the processor inside it function XYZ.
		And like that's the deal, right?
		And like I see that a lot.
		Like I'll see a lady jogging with like a thousand dollars, a thousand dollars of stuff on, right?
		If you include like smartwatch, lululemon clothes, shoes, whatever, and she'll jog right past a homeless guy who's like bleeding in the street, right?
		And that's not normal.
		And that shows how far we've fallen as a society recently.
		But around the world, like, especially in third world nations that have, I mean, COVID, talk about COVID.
		I think it was an extra like 30 million people that died, stuff like that.
		I mean, it's unconscionable.
		And we don't have a frame of reference as Americans for what actually goes on.
		But when you have a place that's totally destroyed, you have to have someone to rebuild it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So you would want, you would, I'd rather have United States than China.
		I'll tell you that.
		You know, because at the end of the day, like the U.S. company is going to make it like, you know, fabulous, you know, and something that the people probably will enjoy more than whatever it is that they currently have because their government couldn't get their shit together to do it in the first place.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you think about this, President Trump?
		If we don't win the midterms, I will get impeached.
		What do you think about this?
unidentified		Do you think he would actually get impeached?
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going to win the midterms.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Because if we don't win the midterms, it's just going to be, I mean, they'll find a reason to impeach me.
White Pill Joke 00:07:24
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Low-key, though, he's not wrong.
		No, you still would still, you would.
		Do you think enough Republicans hate him right now to do that?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, but they could still introduce the articles and like have it go through.
unidentified		Like, yeah, I know.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They did that when they did that when they had the majority back in 2019, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's interesting to think about we don't, we don't really know.
		I, I, like, what's your prediction on the midterms?
		Because I think they're going to lose really bad.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think they're going to lose.
		Because there's enough people that are like, oh, well, the right represents like all these things that are not America.
		And he's lost a lot of people in the middle.
unidentified		He lost me.
		I mean, I.
		He lost me too.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It was like, but it doesn't mean like I want to go blue and true and transgender all of us.
unidentified		And that's the bullshit.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the football game.
		And we're not playing the football game anymore.
		And you can criticize us.
		You can hate on us.
		You can do whatever.
		Like, we're not, I'm not selling you Democrat, Republican, whatever.
		We're just talking about the world because it's like crazy nutty.
		And like, we need to talk about all of it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's why we're doing the show.
unidentified		It's because it's fun.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we want it to be fun for you guys too.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So let's get into some meat and potatoes.
unidentified		There you go.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Bongino, after the spectacular failure at the FBI, really not a failure.
		He executed his mission perfectly, which was to obfuscate the Epstein files.
		He's back to podcasting now.
		And this is a big, big deal.
		Good to see you all.
		I missed you.
		Thanks for everything while we worked on cleaning up.
		Working in the administration was the experience of a lifetime.
		I'll have some announcements coming up, but I'm taking a couple of days to spend with the family.
		A couple of things.
		Thank you for your interest in the show and its return date.
		We will have something for you soon.
		The Trump team is not kidding around.
unidentified		Tough, tough talk.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's an otherworldly experience from the other side.
		He's determined and focused.
		And having been around quite a few presidents, this one broke the mold.
		If we blocked you, it's because we care so little about your bullshit that we deem it not worthy of even seeing.
		If you're bitching and whining about it, that means you can't exist without seeing and commenting on ours.
		You'll need to get over that.
		I can do a bad job.
		I can lie to you.
		I can go and renounce my principles and my actions during my job and then come back to my show and say whatever I want and insult you and talk to you like you're a little kid.
		You, Dan Bongino.
unidentified		Lock you, bitch.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who the fuck are you, Dan?
		Who is Dan Bongino?
		Because there's nothing black pillars and anti-Trumpers want to talk more than to create division and drama.
		We're about results, and we'll talk about some of it soon.
unidentified		Thanks.
		Love you all.
		And thanks again.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Flaming Elmo emoji.
		All right, that's some sort of joke.
		I don't know what that means.
		But going forward, and look, look, I have this purely for you, Tim, to see how these people talk.
		And like, we're going to get into the gladiator meme.
		This is not ironic.
		This is not a joke.
		This is not like a tough edit.
		I've seen these on Instagram where it's like the Sigma music, you know.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's so, it's like Tate stuff, right?
		This is not a tough edit.
		This is real.
		They're actually pushing this message.
		Nick Sordor, Justin, Dan Bongino announces he's declared war on grifters and black pillars attending to hijack MAGA.
		There's about to be some freaking hell.
unidentified		Wait, wait, wait.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Being critical is considered being black pilled now.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, you're not allowed.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're not allowed to take anything's bad.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So why are you white pill literally means like fantastic?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Keep putting us in more wars.
unidentified		Fantastic.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We're having a good time where we're not focusing on America policies.
unidentified		Fantastic.
		We're sitting there dropping nukes all the time.
		Dude, that's a great story.
		That's a great t-shirt.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That should be the first t-shirt.
		The white pill is the new war.
		The white pills is a hot take, guys.
		Like, hey, like, we're going to get a new war.
		That's the white pill that he wants us to be excited about.
unidentified		It's the tough stare.
		You're damn right, I did.
		You're damn right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think it's time to become white pillar.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hid those Epstein files.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I burned them down.
unidentified		You're damn right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Hey, well, it's white pill to enjoy pedo's.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Luke says he's going to go harder against us than he ever did to those Epstein clients that he covered up for and lied to us about.
unidentified		Bingo.
		Good job.
		Like that tweet.
		Boom.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the truth right there.
unidentified		And then, all right.
		All right.
		Look, look.
		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have to go small screen for a little while.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you've seen this if you're watching this.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is not a joke.
unidentified		This is for real.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is 100% for real.
unidentified		He's just learning from Trump.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is beyond anything.
unidentified		But like Loki.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But Loki, he looks pretty badass.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But he didn't fight.
		Like, he didn't fight for anything.
		He's gladiator.
unidentified		He actually looks like he should be in the movie.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		The fortune, the glory.
		The roar of the Colosseum was his daily bread.
		But duty is a jealous mistress.
		He walked away.
unidentified		He destroyed it.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		Descended into the belly of the beast to serve a higher cause.
		To fight the wars no one sees.
		He hunted wolves in the dark.
		And though the victories were great, this is not a joke.
		They were one.
unidentified		They sucked.
unidentified		He retweeted this.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		People cannot cheer for what they cannot see.
		They did not hunger for whispers or quiet victories.
		They needed to see the blood.
unidentified		They needed to hear the gladiator.
		Yeah.
		Phenomenal.
		I'm not.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.
unidentified		Oh, they missed the whole thing.
		I'm a fool.
		All right.
		Fortune, guys.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		The glory.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		The roar of the Coliseum was his daily bread.
unidentified		This is for real.
russel crowe ▲ ● ▼		But duty is a jealous mistress.
		He walked away, descended into the belly of the beast, to serve a higher cause, to fight the wars no one sees.
		He hunted wolves in the dark.
		And though the victories were great, they were won in silence.
		The people cannot cheer.
unidentified		All right, that's enough.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But like, they made that.
		They put it out to be cool.
		And if you look at the responses to it, which is what gets really interesting, this is awesome.
unidentified		Strength and honor.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Perfection.
		Fantastic work.
		Let's fucking go.
		2026 is going to be so lit.
unidentified		Yeah, it's going to be so lit.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't have any Epstein files, but we have Gladiator edit.
unidentified		Yay.
		White pill, man.
		Yeah, White Pill.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gangster.
unidentified		Ooh, it's tough.
		Tough.
		Damn, he's got a real bass.
		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, people, and that's the thing, man, is like people, and that's, that's why I have this up.
		People are still so enthralled by it.
		And I, like, like Cat Turd, and we'll get into Cat Turd.
		I have him on the next slide.
		It's just, I can't believe that the bass is that stupid because it makes me feel bad.
		And it makes me think about how I've always thought about quote unquote the left or the libtards or whatever.
Deputy Director's Comeback Bid 00:15:15
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's the same exact thing.
		It's just political programming, right?
		And it's stupid, not necessarily because the people are dumb, but because the idea is dumb and it infects you.
		You get infected by the stupid idea.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like, I'm really seeing a lot of this.
		I saw a lot of this in 2019 and 2020 leading up to the Trump Biden election.
		Very specifically in Dallas up with Owen Shroyer doing an event, a GOP event.
		I saw old women twerking to Trump salsa and Trump rap music in the street.
		And I was like, you're going to fucking lose.
unidentified		It's over.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like the aura drain or whatever you want to call it, no aura.
		Absolutely no aura.
		And when I look at these comments, that's what I register.
		Just absolutely zero aura.
		And then we got more from that.
unidentified		Let me add this.
		Will you read this?
		I'm a little.
		Yeah, I got you.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Let me add this from the jump so that there's no confusion.
		I started in this movement as a candidate during the Tea Party movement.
		And I began my political commentary career shortly thereafter.
		I helped build this movement.
		And I sure as hell, I'm not going to go, I'm not going to let it get hijacked by a group of black pillars.
unidentified		That's the tone to it, man.
unidentified		We are okay.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We are a movement gilded by truth.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Which is what Trump says.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the.
unidentified		He got it.
		He got it.
		You're right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm interrupting with comment.
unidentified		Oh, no, you're right.
unidentified		You're right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The truth is what Trump says.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		The essence of the conservative ideology is the preservation of eternal truth.
unidentified		The eternal Trump.
unidentified		Yes.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We are not the latest thing group.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We are not political cannabis.
unidentified		Oh, cannibals.
unidentified		Cannabis.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What are you smoking on, Mr. Bongino?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I've watched quietly from the inside while doing this job that I was hired to do, but I'm back now.
unidentified		And it's time to restore the balance to the force.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Star Wars reference.
		It's so cringe.
		It's so boomer Gen X.
		And I love Star Wars, but I mean, like, here's the thing.
		He's trying to act tough about failing at doing his job and then coming back to his first job where he promised the purpose of doing that first job was to get into the second job so he could save the kids.
		I just, it's a tongue twister.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you come up with a new Bongino tongue twister.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We like to say at the InfoWars office, we like to say his name, like Bongino.
unidentified		Bonjino.
unidentified		Banjino.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		As we get ready to make some announcements about the future of the show, I also want to warn the haters and the zeros.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, who was the last time you called someone a zero?
unidentified		That's pretty good.
unidentified		I haven't heard that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a zero, man.
		That's a good one.
		I forgot about that.
		We've been at this for a long time.
		We lived for this stuff.
		This isn't our first, second, or 10th rate rodeo.
		We've seen a lot of dip shits come and go.
		I'm part of the new administration.
		I can talk tough.
		And like, literally, the boomer chud like orgasms over themselves when they read that.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're like, he's a tough guy.
unidentified		I watch your show, Mr. Bongino.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got midterms coming up, and there's no time for bullshit.
unidentified		Yeah, I gotta, I gotta vote.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I gotta vote for my team and whip myself harder, harder.
unidentified		I gotta hurt myself.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I gotta hurt myself so I can go see.
unidentified		You like this?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, seriously.
		I mean, it's a really weird Republican party.
		Seriously, yeah.
		We're the Republican Party and we own everything.
		I mean, that is the mentality.
		This administration is cooking and real change simmers.
		Okay, so he's saying here, that's so weird.
		I think he wrote this.
		I don't think it's AI.
		And real change simmers.
		So you're comparing the Epstein files to pasta and the pasta is in boiling water and it has to simmer.
		So I guess he got out before the Epstein files could be completed as a dish.
		Do you see what I'm saying?
		He's comparing it to cooking, right?
unidentified		Somehow.
unidentified		No, no, Dan.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't simmer.
		Either do it or you don't.
		There's either results or there are no results.
		You can't use a cute little metaphor to cover up for the fact you didn't do what you were appointed to do.
		If you're spending your entire day bitching and whining about the three-fourths of the term still to go, then please find the exits.
		What does that mean?
		Kill yourself.
		There's no time for it.
		It's not infighting when you excise cancer killing the host.
		It's outfighting because you're not part of any movement I'm familiar with.
unidentified		You know who he reminds me of?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's like, he talks like AOC.
		Like, it's just like the blue.
		The blue version of AOC, like just trying to be so charged up for their party and just die, you know, die red.
		I just don't understand it.
unidentified		You know, right?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's just this guy.
unidentified		I don't know who is he?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Is he trying to appeal his?
		No, he's not even trying to appeal to his base.
		He's trying to appeal to the people up top.
		He's trying to get favor because he literally got kicked out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the thing is, they're like, look, you're not a good fit here.
		Your reputation has been destroyed.
		Nobody trusts you anymore.
		Here's the thing: you played ball and helped us cover up one of the greatest organized crime, if not the greatest organized cookbook in American history.
unidentified		You are a good boy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You will get podcasting.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And just like Ben Shapiro got the artificial push on Facebook and Meta and whatnot, we're going to push your show to old people that are partially retarded due to alcohol abuse over the years.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You have died gloriously.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to drink boxed wine and listen to your show and think that you're tough.
		And then he goes, all right, that's a good deal.
		And like, that's the deal that was taken, in my opinion.
		Let's see what we have next.
		And this is a very chill show.
		We're going to end the show before two hours.
		It's real, real easy.
		And Tim's got a topic, but after that, I'll stop yapping.
		This is my last topic for tonight.
		Trump endorses Navy SEAL Gallrin against Representative Massey in Kentucky primary.
		January 5th, Trump praised Galrin, a retired Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, combat veteran, and Kentucky farmer, as the ideal candidate to secure borders and peace through strength in Kentucky's fourth district Republican primary on May 19th.
		Peace through strength?
		So, like, that's not.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's not a new idea.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that's foreign policy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's that's that's foreign.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's our foreign policy, right?
unidentified		What does that mean?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It basically means you swing your dick around so that no one else even decides to like to fight against you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I see Massey, a libertarian-leaning incumbent since 2012, dismissed the attack with the meme and highlighted his opposition to foreign aid and deficits, boasting strong past election wins over 70%.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Gallery's campaign raised about 1.2 million right after filing on January 6th, spotlighting a long-running feud, the test GOP unity between loyalists and Massey.
unidentified		Blah, blah.
unidentified		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And look how they're pushing him.
unidentified		What the fuck?
		Did you see this?
		What?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is not a Bongino thread.
unidentified		What is this?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is just like the Grok made news thread on.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I found it in news.
unidentified		This is in the news.
		Yeah.
		Oh, okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is in the news part of it.
unidentified		I see.
		I see.
		But look at this.
		It's all.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's a top comic.
unidentified		Damn.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then you got more.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Have you searched his name or is he just like popular right now?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're pushing him hard on the algorithm.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's like, Elon, Elon, I need you to do me a favor.
unidentified		Wow.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We had a brave soldier die for the cause.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He helped protect us pedos.
unidentified		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I need you to boost his algorithm.
unidentified		Make sure he gets plenty of views.
		Many, many views.
		That's pretty much what I see here.
		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So we read this tweet up top already.
		And then Matt Gates comes in and says, at Grok, when did Dan Bongino run for office?
		And how did he perform as a candidate?
		Kind of like a slight diss or whatever you want to say.
		And then Dan Bongino comes back with that fire.
		And this is like he's tough posting.
		And he's going to be tough posting all year probably to try to get some of his credibility back.
		But being like a loud guy.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if I spent more, maybe if you spent more time.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if I spent more time at shady parties with moneyed insiders, I would have won.
		I heard you know a bit about that.
		You've always been a dick, by the way, grifting off your daddy like a suckly little doggy.
		When I first met you in the panhandle, I knew you were a piece of shit.
		It's written all over that pony face of yours.
		I mean, damn.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Dude, he's gladiator all out, dude.
unidentified		Somebody pissed this guy off.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
unidentified		He's the gladiator.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's going to war, guys.
unidentified		He's going to war.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bongino.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bongino.
unidentified		Oh, man.
		Okay.
		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's, that's, that's enough fun.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's enough fun.
unidentified		Um, that is.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then Matt Gates comes back to like give him some praise.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the classic whenever someone insults you is to say something nice about him.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, he's probably played a clip with you saying something bad.
dan bongino ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to tell you something.
		When it came to the Secret Service debacle and keeping President Trump alive, I met with Matt Gates up at the Heritage thing when I did that little congressional hearing we did.
		And there's no one more concerned about keeping Trump safe than this guy.
		Here's Matt Gates versus Christopher Ray.
		This is one of the finest clips you'll see today.
		This guy understands that Christopher Ray, who hopefully will be leaving his job the minute Trump is sworn in, Matt Gates gets it.
		The FBI management has worked as a singular force to destroy liberties and freedoms in the United States.
		And they better get a guy in there who's willing to see it for what it is.
unidentified		Slop.
unidentified		Look at the stare, bro.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know my eyes are.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Would you let this kid babysit your five-year-old?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is more like, would you let him mow your lawn situation?
unidentified		He's like, oh, I'm here to mow your lawn, please.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's motivated.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He needs more crystal.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's amped up on something.
unidentified		Jeez.
unidentified		Dan, let's just...
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You got at the right pause there.
unidentified		Why...
		Dang.
		Oh, my God.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good YouTube profile.
unidentified		Where are his eyebrows?
		I'm sorry.
		Where are the eyebrows?
		Damn, bro.
		He's got to put them on.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's so weird to me when girls do that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They'll like shave their eyebrows off and then draw them.
unidentified		Draw them on.
unidentified		That's so weird.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think he should start drawing them on because I'm not seeing them there.
unidentified		What is going on?
		What is going on?
		There's like a nice little patch there on the top left.
		Oh, man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I kind of have his hair, though.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's really bad.
unidentified		Here's the thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		My hair is actually good, and I'm going to get it fixed this year.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just don't have it on my temples.
unidentified		I like it.
		Well, you got the beard.
		He doesn't get it.
		Yeah, I guess.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he just is trimming.
		This guy, that's like the Italian, like, mob, like, kind of like, I got a little bit of hair on my face, but not a lot.
		Mine's a lot thicker than that.
dan bongino ▲ ● ▼		I season.
dan bongino ▲ ● ▼		Were they aghast at the nomination of Derek Farland, sometimes known as Merrick Garland?
unidentified		I'm not so sure.
dan bongino ▲ ● ▼		They didn't sound aghast.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, this is what is coming back now that he's left.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is the big deal: he's coming back to do this show.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So, that was what he was coming back.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's not going back into position.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, he's going back into being a podcaster.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Dude, that's what a false.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got him reposting cat turd, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, it's very clear what side he falls on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		What this is fall from grace.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is Trump dissing Massey and endorsing the Ed Goreland guy.
		I'll go ahead and read it for the people that want to hear it read.
		The incredible people of Kentucky's fourth congressional district who want desperately to get rid of Thomas Massey, the worst Republican congressman we have had in many years, gave us a mandate to make America great again.
		The person that will help us do this job and do it right is Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, fifth generation Kentucky farmer, and American hero, Captain Ed Gallery, a true patriot.
		Today, Ed, who also happens to be central casting, like this is what's he literally, it's literally like it's admitted here.
		I guess I can't select it or make it blue.
		Central casting means an actor, like you look like you could do the job, yeah.
		Like, literally, it's like, yeah, he's perfect, he's great.
		Look at my, look at my goldfish.
		I just bought at the store, isn't he perfect for being in a fishbowl?
		Like, that's that's literally literally, he has as much care for that guy as he does for a fucking insect, but he's willing to put him and millions of dollars and tens or dozens or hundreds of his personal hours working against Thomas Massey through that guy.
		It's crazy to me that people don't see that.
		Um, today, Ed, who also happens to be central casting, officially filed the run for Congress.
		I have heard that there were other candidates exploring to run for the seat, but I'm asking all Mago warriors.
		Man, I don't want to be a Mago warrior.
		Like, I don't want to be called that.
		That sounds like a derogatory term to rally behind Captain Ed Gallrin, the candidate who is far and away, best positioned to defeat third-rate Congressman Thomas Massey, a weak and pathetic rhino from the beautiful Commonwealth of Kentucky, a place I love and won big all three times.
unidentified		What are your thoughts?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, I'm at a loss for words.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's just it's never ends, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's always a new story.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's just mad because he aired his shit out.
		Let's be honest.
		That's literally the only thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, and it's the same thing with NTG, right?
		They brought those girls and they didn't want them to bring those girls.
		They didn't want them to acknowledge the victims, man.
		You know, and like do we look back at this in 40 years and are just like, well, I guess it happened.
unidentified		It's fine.
unidentified		I guess we never figured it out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, like eventually it will all come out, right?
		So, like, we will know the truth about all these things.
		And that is what gives me solace.
		Is like, there is an ending to the story, right?
		The story doesn't continue forever, forever, forever.
		I think at some point, some American politician will win through populism or some other way, or the country will fall or whatever.
		And then we'll actually ascertain the truth, all these things.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		I believe it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You need to get somebody who has nothing to do with any of it, right?
		Of course, like you can't be on the file.
		And then you do an executive order and you have it released.
		And I don't care what the man in the black suit says, you know.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got Mr. Awake.
		He says it's not a fall from grace.
		He gets to talk shit from home.
		Do you know how much he allegedly made from his podcast?
		Yeah, but it's not supposed to be about the money, right?
		It's not supposed to be about the money.
		Isn't that the whole point of doing the show and being against the political corruption in the specific way that he was?
		Because he was essentially angling for a job trying to fix things, right?
		And he saw the Trump administration as a vehicle to do that kind of work.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, it is a remind me what his position was again.
unidentified		I'm so tired.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Assistant or no, deputy director under Patel.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So look, being a deputy director underneath the being a deputy director of such a high position is super critical.
		Just keep in mind the amount of power that you have as an individual is enormous, especially with such a strong entity.
		And now you go to like doing what we're doing and sitting behind a podcast.
		What do you think he's going to do now?
		You think people are going to sit there and respect him?
		The guys who are really in the rooms with the power?
unidentified		No, he's, he's got no.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, and it's just like, do you remember when Mike Walls leaked that signal chat where Pete Hegseth was talking about military plans?
Trump's Team Management 00:12:19
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This was a story like, this is like four or five months ago, I believe, at this point.
		But when that happened, you know, Trump, for as much as I criticize him, he is better at managing his team, even if they're all working together, which I think they are in cooperation to do evil stuff.
		He is better at working his team and he's better at telling them.
		He's like, look, here's what we're going to do.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Walls, you are no longer whatever position you had in the Defense Department.
		You are now ambassador to the U.N. You now go over there because you fucked up.
		I'm not going to terminate your career, but it's like when you, when you fail or fuck up in the military, they promote you, right?
		Because they send you away or they do something like that.
		So you look at that situation and you look at Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino's fall from grace is way more severe.
unidentified		Yeah, but he's literally doing what we're doing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But he was also scapegoated.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Like I can't even imagine being in that situation.
unidentified		Well, he did it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I'm saying is, is like, all right, you've got a boss and a boss is boss.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And your entire like career livelihood relies on this one thing.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And they tell you not to do something.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he could have been a better liar, but like, well, like, that's the only thing I can see him doing better in that way.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, if he comes back and does his show, but he comes back from the position of instead of staying in the FBI for a year and glazing them and being a glizzy gobbler.
		If he comes back like two months after being, he's like, hey, they won't let me touch this stuff.
		They want me to burn this stuff.
		Fuck the government.
unidentified		I'm out.
unidentified		I'm doing my show.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He'd be bigger in Candace Owens, bigger than anybody.
unidentified		No.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He took the deal.
unidentified		You know what?
unidentified		This is key to understand.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We're not in those rooms to where we know what it's like to have the immense amount of pressure put on you by the entire federal administration.
		Like, you got to understand the amount of ways Trump is so terrible.
		Yeah, the imagination.
		The amount of ways they can ruin your life, we can't even imagine actually.
		Between the people you love, like imagine they're like, all right, Rex, we're going to do this to your dad if you don't cooperate.
		We're going to do this to your mom.
unidentified		You got the granddad.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got the computer in the car and the car is going to go over the bridge if you don't know what we say.
		Yeah, no, exactly.
		And like, granddad might not come back.
unidentified		That type thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All that stuff is admitted and they have the capability to do that.
		So like, look, you don't, I would just say like, and that's why like Fishback said, like, like, no wife, no kids.
		It's like you have a lot more integrity if you don't have things that people can threaten, right?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Or the money that you're tied to.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if it's just your life, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like that, that is actually a powerful political principle because like there's never been an age of civilized politic where people wouldn't hurt people's families or whatever if like dark factions of the government needed something done.
unidentified		But even that's always been the case.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But even someone like Fishback has a mother, a father that they love.
		Like they have, they have loved ones.
		The only guy who's not susceptible is literally the guy who like either grew up an orphan, doesn't know his family, doesn't care about anything.
		That's the only guy that's.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why there's real power in bad situations too.
		It's like you look at a situation like that, which is horrible, but hey, you know, who knows?
		But very interesting.
		I wanted to throw this up on the screen.
		This is Thomas Massey.
		This is the congressman.
		Israeli citizen Miriam Idelson bought the Dallas Mavericks for 3.5 billion.
		Now she's buying politicians.
		She's spending millions in Kentucky to buy Ed Galron, my primary opponent, a congressional seat in Kentucky.
unidentified		Why?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I won't vote to send your tax dollars overseas.
		So this is our real president.
		This is Miriam Adelson.
		She's the one that gave Trump 250 million.
unidentified		Yep.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So this is our real boss.
		And I just want to take a second and just say, thank you, Miriam, for the air that I breathe.
		Thank you, Miriam, for the gas that I pump in my car.
		Thank you, Miriam, for the Chinese import table that I set up in my living room.
		Thank you, Miriam, for all of it.
		Without you, my country would not exist.
		She wanted Rubio to be VP.
		That's why Rubio is Secretary of State.
		And many more other decisions were made by this woman.
		And then, like, they, I don't have to get sidetracked.
		It's just when Trump is up on stage with her and talking about the amount of money she has and is like dancing for it like a stripper.
unidentified		Like, what does she do to get her money?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Uh, her husband, Sheldon Adelson, he was a billionaire, Jewish billionaire.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, that would definitely make sense.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, we got a clip of Massey here.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		President would not have, and I'm gonna go ahead.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I gotta say, I love this guy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's my favorite.
thomas massie ▲ ● ▼		If it were about drugs, we'd bomb Mexico or China or Colombia.
		And the president would not have pardoned Juan Orlando Hernandez.
		This is about oil and regime change.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's a man who can't be bought.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, that's principles right there.
		And you don't hear that anywhere else, man.
		You don't hear that anywhere else.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He's sticking to his guns.
		Bongino got into bed too early.
		So, you know, that's the issue there.
unidentified		That's tough.
		All right.
		What is this?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm just covering news.
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		What is so?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just looked at it briefly.
		I just threw it in.
		According to local reports, Iran's regime has lost control of Abdenan to protesters with security units pushed back and some joining the demonstrators.
unidentified		Awesome.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm tough today, guys.
unidentified		I don't know why.
		It's weird.
		Damn.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We got to talk about this.
unidentified		We got to talk about it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And here's the thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're protesting inflation.
unidentified		Yes.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Their inflation has gone up rapidly.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Their currency has like fallen dramatically.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And people can't even imagine what that's like.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We'll cover this.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We should talk about this with our guest on Sunday.
unidentified		Yes.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think he's very knowledgeable about this stuff and like what's going on in these regions.
unidentified		I agree.
unidentified		I agree.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go ahead and.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Let's cover some breaking news.
unidentified		Trump.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We got more Trump stuff, of course.
unidentified		It's what everyone wants.
		The finest slop.
		All right.
		So we can start here.
		Breaking.
		It's official.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		President Trump has just nuked the $10 billion in federal funding for child care and other welfare because of rampant fraud.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Minnesota, California, Illinois, New York, and Colorado are officially cut off.
unidentified		FAFO Trump minute.
unidentified		Yeah, boy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just, I hate that, man.
		It's so fucking cringe.
		And I can't believe I didn't realize how cringe that was until like a few years ago.
		And then I still kept believing it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and click on the video.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He says a lot.
unidentified		He's talking.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's yapping a little bit.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we should have the, we should play Lindsey Graham Clip as well at the end, but not trying to from Minnesota and from the United States.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		It's actually more from the United States because Minnesota puts in, and we're not going to pay it anymore.
		We're going to have walls go pay.
		We're not going to pay them.
		And we're not going to pay California.
		And we're not going to pay Illinois with that big slob of a governor that they have that does big slab.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And see, like, people are like, yeah, that's my president.
		He insults people.
		And like, he doesn't deliver.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		You know, we brought down crime by 25%.
unidentified		He didn't do anything.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		He's not doing anything.
		They want us to leave.
		He had a day where they had 17 murders not too long ago.
		17 murders and 77 people shot.
		But 17 died.
		And then he talks about it.
unidentified		He can't handle it.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		But we pull back and we'll go in at the appropriate time.
		We're the ones that brought the crime down.
		We brought it down 20%.
		They didn't bring it down.
		Pritchka didn't bring it down.
		Same thing with Gavin Newsom from Minnesota.
unidentified		What are your thoughts?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to try to find something.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, look, I know why he's doing it.
		Like, I don't think Minnesota was doing the right thing financially when it came to this whole Somalia stuff.
		You know, I mean, the Somali people.
		So I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know, he shouldn't withhold funding.
		I think there needs to be more transparency.
		Now, it doesn't mean that like, you know, the federal government's not hypocritical because they're doing the same thing.
unidentified		That's a different question.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But if I'm just looking at this situation from just a vacuum, yeah, I think, you know, you should hardball and have like way more checks and balances to how people are getting money.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the American people should be paying taxes for programs where they're mismanaged.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		And I like, that's why people are so mad at Doge because they didn't actually deliver on any of that stuff.
		They said at first, oh, there's $2 trillion, then it's $800 billion, then it's $100 billion, and then it's nothing.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		And that's how it goes.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trying to find this clip of Lindsey and Trump talking about Cuba really quick, and then we'll get back into Tim Stan.
lindsey graham ▲ ● ▼		And as to this commander-in-chief, he did something people talked about doing.
		You just wait for Cuba.
		Cuba is a communist dictatorship that's killed priests and nuns.
		They've preyed on their own people.
unidentified		They're not.
		They're currently export doctors.
		We've had them sanctioned and blocked off for decades.
		In our backyard, we're going to have to do it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like burning someone's house.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you go there, it's almost like you went back in time.
		Everything's still from the 1960s, 70s.
		The cars, the streets, it's like literally frozen in time.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, that's because we blockaded them and we've prevented them from being successful.
unidentified		That's just the truth.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can go, they're communists.
		They don't deserve anything, whatever.
		But like when we sanction you and when we do it for decades and when we make it impossible for you to essentially live in the modern economy or modern life and block off any hope you might have of doing so, then your country is destroyed and then people are having a hard time eating.
		And then we go, oh, problem solution.
		We created a problem.
		We bankrupted you.
		And the solution is taking your house.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first problem is the fact that they got in bed with Russia, let's be honest.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		And that can't be tolerated.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That can't be tolerated.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I guess, I guess, hey, I don't want nukes on the on the Gulf Coast.
unidentified		And I hear it.
		I hear it.
		I hear it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And that's why that made sense for we're no longer in the cold war and it would make sense to do something.
		But again, it doesn't mean the leader was friendly.
		Hey, look, well, might as well just, since we had Venezuela happen, might as well just lump it there too.
		You see, they, do you know what they do?
		And I'll get back to my thing in a second.
unidentified		What do they do, Tony?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They like show you in plain sight what they're going to do by just like briefly talking about it and hinting at it.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And then like it like primes you.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So that way you're like a little less gut punched when it like actually happens.
unidentified		Very, very well.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So I think there's a scenario where they actually might do something with Cuba.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I think that they're going to do stuff to Colombia.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think they'll do stuff to Cuba.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think they're going to do something in Greenland too.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing.
		Well, I think Greenland goes along willingly.
		I don't think, and here's where's where I'll get like black woke.
		I'll put on my Kangle hat for this one.
		America is not going to attack an island of 50,000 white people.
unidentified		That is true.
		That's not right.
		Hey, you're the low-key not or all of that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the fucking truth.
unidentified		You're not wrong, though.
unidentified		That's the fucking truth.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not blowing up a kid with blonde hair and blue eyes.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, because people would have a riot.
unidentified		People would freak the fuck out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The blonde hair, blue eyes, white people get upset.
		White people get mad.
		It's a different thing.
		And the government gets scared of that because they're like, oh, shit, you're not our voting business anymore.
		You're crashing out now.
		You're supposed to not crash out.
unidentified		Oh, that's a real.
		I never thought you would have that take.
		That is crazy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think that like their PM or whatever has said they're willing to work with us.
		And I mean, if we could take it over, we could take it over or if they're willing.
		That's a lot different than snatch and grabbing somebody.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		You know?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But like, Tim, I'm the ruler of America.
		I'm king emperor and you are the governor of Honduras or president of Honduras.
		And I decide to indict you for having cocaine.
Racist Jury Corruption 00:15:38
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I come extract you from your country and bring you to my country versus going over and making a deal with someone to leave a greater protectorate.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That makes more sense.
unidentified		You see what I'm saying?
unidentified		Yep.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like thousand percent.
		That logic, it holds some water.
		I'm not entirely against that.
unidentified		So.
unidentified		Okay.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So going back to what we're talking about with this, you don't have to show it quite yet because I want to give some background information.
		So yes, this $10 billion welfare related funding to these five states, California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, New York.
		These are people that he's rattled off, but for sure, these are probably the first ones that are going to get targeted.
		So this pause affects three federal programs, TAANF, which is temporary assistance for needy families, which is like cash assistance to low-income families.
		You've got child care and development fund, pays child care costs so parents can work.
		That's also affected.
		Then you've got social services block grant.
		That also will be affected, which there are funds for foster care, disability service, child protection, and family support.
		So together, all of those programs for those particular states, those end up being $10 billion across those five states.
		All right.
		So why is the federal government doing this?
		Part of it is Minnesota, right?
		I mean, they're thinking about like the fact that there's a fraud risk.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They get the Somalia guys and get the daycares.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's not new.
		There's proven fraud.
		So the federal audits, now that they've happened, have found improper payment rates around 10 to 11% in some programs.
		For example, that 2023 audit, Minnesota care payments, 11% of the sampled payments had verification problems.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Imagine also the money laundering that definitely goes on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Oh, 100%.
		100%.
		So that means like, just to preface, it doesn't mean that like it's automatically fraud.
		It also could be that there's weak paperwork or missing tracking.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So if one out of $10, one out of every $10 can't be verified or tracked, then we're going to stop spending checks is what the federal government.
		So again, why Minnesota?
		Everybody's seen the stuff that's happened in the last couple of weeks with the daycare centers.
		But the biggest thing driving this was the one that was actually proven.
		And it's the Feeding Our Families case that was involved with the $250 million stolen from the food aid fund.
		And this video is going to be a recap for you guys because this happened.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not an inconsequential amount of money.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember seeing this?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
unidentified		Nearly 50 people are now charged in a $250 million fraud scheme.
		Good evening.
		And thank you for joining us.
		I'm Kelsey Carlson.
		And I'm Amy Hawker.
		This money was from federal COVID-19 funding.
		It was supposed to feed youth in need, but the charges say that didn't happen.
		Rob Wilson joins us live from Minneapolis.
		Rob, this just seems unbelievable.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and going on for quite a long time.
		You know, Feeding Our Future first caught the state's attention in the summer and fall of 2020 when they were claiming just large numbers of children being fed under this federal funding.
		Well, they tried to stop the funds.
		Feeding Our Future sued, claiming discrimination.
		A judge ordered them to continue being funded.
		It then went to the federal crazy.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They know they're doing something wrong, but they're like, oh, let's keep the money by saying you're being racist.
unidentified		Yep.
		That's crazy.
		Authorities.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		And now, after a long investigation, these massive power in that shit, though, you can get away with a lot.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And this is the thing that I try to tell people.
		Like, you know how the people who do like fake rape victims and stuff like that?
		It discredits the ones that are actually experiencing it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think you should get an equal sentence.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, if it's proven you did it maliciously.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's crazy that that's not like a standard thing, but it's not.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, they'll say, oh, you caught us doing fraud.
unidentified		You're racist.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's the same reason why like the Black Lives Matter movement would never work again.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was just a bunch of like fat ladies who got houses.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They bought a million literally bought a $2 million mansion, paid this family member $1 million for consulting.
		Like, look, you just grifted $40 to $50 million off of donations and didn't have any way to track that.
		And none of those people got arrested, by the way.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And those people thought their money was going to civil rights groups.
		Those people thought their money was going to protest.
		So imagine you agree or disagree.
		Those people thought their money was going towards the cause.
unidentified		Exactly.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		When in fact, it was going towards her house.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So imagine that trying to do 2.0.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No one's going to believe that stuff the second time.
unidentified		Fool me once.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Feeding Our Future is at the core of this fraud.
unidentified		Feeding Our Future is salary.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		There's a non-profit sponsor for free meal sites of the federal child nutrition program.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		Those are people accused now of becoming the center of the largest pandemic fraud in the U.S.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		They were running a scheme, not a child nutrition program.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		U.S. Attorney Andy Luger announcing federal indictments against 47 Abdi Akar Anashe Mohamed, also known as AK Slick.
unidentified		Shout out to you, Abakadir.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		However, you say Ahmed Sharif Omar Hashim, also known as Saladonyale.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It kind of loops around to being like Spanish almost.
unidentified		I don't know.
		Adi Nuar Sali.
		I don't know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for the white collaborator.
unidentified		I know there's got to be.
		There was one.
		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I know there was.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		His name, Tim Walz.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But they were like 90% Somali.
unidentified		Right.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		Seven people, including Feeding Our Future founder, Amy Bach.
		Charges include conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, and illegal kickbacks.
		Accused of under relaxed COVID regulations, opening more than 200 free meal sites across Minnesota, each site claiming to serve between 2,000 and 6,000 children every day.
		The U.S. attorney says they submitted fake rosters filled with children who don't exist.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Only about one or two percent of the names in most of these sites match the school rosters.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		These children were simply invented.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		The alleged fraud adding up.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dude, why didn't we do this?
unidentified		Why are we doing this?
		Yeah, why are we doing why are we doing anything?
		Why are we doing business?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're not running an autism learning center in this.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		$250 million.
		Defendants buying homes in Minnesota, resort properties in Turkey and Kenya, luxury vehicles and jewelry.
		So far, $50 million has been recovered.
unidentified		The subjects in this case weren't interested in Feeding Our Future.
unidentified		They were interested in feeding their own gluttony.
rob olson ▲ ● ▼		Now, the indictments are broken up into six different indictments because the federal authorities here allege that there were six different groups that had created these meal sites, all of them sponsored by Feeding Our Future.
		They were kind of the middleman between the federal funding and meal sites.
		So they're the ones that are fortunate to.
		So again, a massive alleged fraud scheme here.
		It was expected that three people are already going to be pleading guilty to charges here.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sam Hyde talks about it.
		He calls it the Laotian immigrant mentality.
		He's like, how I make money?
		Like, I want to make money now.
		Like, they figured it out.
unidentified		They're like, I want to make money now.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is available.
unidentified		We'll do it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Also, in Somalia, there's a lot of culture that has to do with that.
unidentified		Right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So, like, a lot of that stuff translates not for everybody, but there is a culture for doing that because of the environment that has been created.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They, along with Korea, have some of the craziest slave trade history of any of any country.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Korea is really crazy too.
unidentified		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're all, it's like 1500-year unbroken North or South.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like the whole thing.
unidentified		Dang.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, like, you look around the world and you're like, well, you know, Europeans are Europeans.
		Africans are Africans.
		Asians are Asians.
		It's a similar culture, right?
		No, it's like thousands of different cultures, right?
		So then people are like, oh, like, hi, I'm this.
unidentified		I'm that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What does that actually mean?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, Americans don't know a lot about Somalia, right?
unidentified		Not at all.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And like, we should.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm black and I don't even know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We should, we should, we should learn more about, we should learn more about Somalia because I don't know the first thing about it, to be honest with you.
		I know they're trying to break off that new area and make Somaliland, which Israel has recognized.
		So they want to put the Palestinians there in Somaliland.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And actually, I was in a spaces with our guest and they know a lot about this topic.
unidentified		So they'll be able to show you.
		That'll be fascinating.
		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to do a really fun like Middle East.
unidentified		It's almost over.
		You're good with it.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		You're good.
		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to do Middle East deep dive.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have an expert on who knows about a lot of these things.
unidentified		We're looking forward to that.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So what else did you want to cover?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So it's crazy because there was more fraud within the fraud of this case.
		I just had to cover this.
		So let's read this.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Flashback to last year when Laden Ali tried to bribe a juror in the Feeding Our Future case with $12,000 in cash.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		$120,000.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm off my game today, guys.
unidentified		Sorry.
unidentified		I apologize.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Our future case with 100.
		It's just, it's not crazy.
		Like, what do you bring him a brick of cash, like a money phone?
		He holds it up to his head.
unidentified		There you go.
unidentified		That's crazy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		120 grand.
		Now we have Minnesota judges reversing unanimous jury convictions and missing obvious fraud.
		Who's to say bribery isn't happening at multiple levels of government?
		Well, I mean, who's to say, like, it is?
unidentified		Watch this now.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		We learned that an unknown woman showed up at the home of a juror.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		That unknown woman, QS Attorney Andy Luger says, is 31-year-old Ladden Ali.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Ali and four men are now charged with a rare crime, corruptly influencing a juror.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Corruption of a jury through a race thing.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Bribery is a serious federal.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not even, I'm going to pause it.
		It's not even a racial thing.
		It's like you said, like, you're black, right?
		But like, what does that mean?
unidentified		I'm white.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it would be like saying, like, I'm like Portuguese.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a, that's a specific culture of whatever of whatever that specific demographic does.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And they learned that behavior from their parents and the surrounding community that that endorsed that type of thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the ethnic base of like people that are here, like white people, it's vast majority German people.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then people that are African American or black, it's vast majority West African and Nigerian.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm Nigerian.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like that's I'm German.
		He's Nigerian.
		These are Somali.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Carries a significant prison sentence.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		In Luger's press conference Wednesday, he highlighted how Ali flew to Minnesota from Seattle, where she also has ties.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		Juror 52 leaving a parking ramp.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Luger says Ali surveilled the youngest and only juror of color following her home from the crazy.
unidentified		Crazy.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		She's like, you're my people, so I could convince you.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Three days drove by juror 52's spring.
unidentified		This is great.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no group, no other group acts like this, though.
		This is like Sopranos, right?
		Like, they should do a Somali Sopranos.
unidentified		Right, wouldn't that be good?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I watched that.
		You got to give them credit.
		They're very tight-knit as a community.
		Got to give them credit there.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They also want to help people with autism a lot.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		The amount of time spent near the juror's home, according to her rental cars GPS data.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Directed by four men, including three standing trial for stealing more than $40 million from the federal child nutrition program during the pandemic.
unidentified		That's crazy.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So you are standing trial, and then you want to go and try to bribe the jury while you're in the middle of that.
unidentified		You couldn't be any more stupid.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Defendants are accused of a sophisticated plot to get to juror 52 with money, then detailed on how to convince the rest of the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the government of being racist against the Somali immigrants.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		After being driven back to a key instructions on how to convince the rest of the jury to vote nothing, okay.
unidentified		Yeah, this is real.
		Holy shit.
		Okay.
		Okay.
		All right.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Money, then detailed instructions on how to below are arguments to convince other jurors.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Remember, your vote will be not guilty on all counts for all defendants.
		Two, we are immigrants.
		They don't respect and care about us.
		Three, government late investigation.
		All agents did not swiftly act on case.
		See, not even typing right.
		Jury doesn't have a full picture of what happened on time.
		Misleading information, including math, which was done to fit the government narrative.
		Lack of credible witnesses.
		Three years later, no one remembers anything about what happened.
		So we didn't do anything wrong.
		We all forgot.
		Assume guilt at the beginning of the case, and they didn't even bother to investigate or talk to anyone at all.
		They just followed the money.
		Well, that's comedy.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I'm going to read that again.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Assume guilt from the beginning of the case and didn't even bother to investigate or talk to anyone at all, just followed the money.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just like followed.
unidentified		It's like, ooh, we saw a dollar here.
		Damn, $100 there.
		Let's just go chase that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're not allowed to look at the numbers.
		To look at the numbers would be racist.
		No site visits, no surveillance.
		Nothing was ever done to visit any of the locations.
		They had over a year to do it, but they didn't at all.
		No one from the main sponsor is indicted.
		Defendants, as presented by the government, made millions and millions outside of the food program.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Damn, they spent some time on chat.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are they just flexing that they made money outside of it so they're not total scammers?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess that's what that reads as bizarre.
unidentified		I apologize, guys.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to keep up with it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		For example, over $1 million in just credit card sales at one of their businesses in just credit cards.
unidentified		So, okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No one from NDE is indicted.
		No one from state government is indicted.
		No experts, including nutritionists and even food experts, were presented to jury to explain how the food industry or food program works.
		Prejudice against people of color.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They had to add the racist twice.
unidentified		Yeah, it's racist.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Prejudice.
		They followed the money or the numbers, and it's racist to follow the numbers.
		The government kept food industry or food program works.
		Prejudice, like I read, the government kept attacking Somali witnesses and asking them if it's true in Somali culture to cheat, steal, or lie, which was very racist.
		The government just followed the money and didn't do any real investigation to better understand the reimbursement program.
		Hadith was a big-time liar, and no one should believe him.
		His main goal is to get a deal from the government and not go to prison.
		So I guess that's the witness they have.
unidentified		Wow.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Evidence presented doesn't support the main facts of the case.
		Just pictures and meal counts.
		And we can't read that.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They were very thorough, I gotta say.
unidentified		Yeah, they were very thorough.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		They convinced the rest of the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the government of being racist against the Somali immigrants.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		After being driven back to juror number 52's house by this man, Abdul Karim Farah, Ali is accused of bringing $120,000 cash to the door and promising juror 52's family member that more money would come.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a nice mob touch.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You put the flowers on the bag.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Hey, by the way, that's all the fraud money.
unidentified		That's crazy.
unidentified		That's not guilty.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		That's a scene right out of a mob movie.
The Kid Bad Theory 00:15:44
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		This is more than just a mob movie.
		He said this is a chilling attack.
		on our system of justice.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Luger stressed how rare the attempted bribe of a juror is nationwide.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		But it just doesn't happen in Minnesota.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		In fact, Carol News was only able to find one other documented case in our state in 1961 during an actual mob trial taking place in Minneapolis involving the Kid Can liquor syndicate.
unidentified		He is the absolute most notorious mobster in Minnesota history.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		Twin Cities filmmaker Michael Greenberg studied Isadore Kid Kan Blumenfeld, hoping to turn his short film into a series.
unidentified		In the 60s, obviously times had changed and it was out of an act of desperation of trying to bribe somebody that they had no previous relationship with.
lou raguse ▲ ● ▼		The mob bribe was unsuccessful.
		Just like in the Feeding Our Future case, the judge in the Kid Can case called the attempted bribe an even more serious crime than the underlying liquor law trial.
		Luger characterizes it as an assault on the integrity of the justice system.
andy luger ▲ ● ▼		There is no higher priority than protecting that system.
unidentified		Ladd and Ali will be.
		Wow.
		Wow, wow, wow.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So this, this is still either.
unidentified		It's a developing situation.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
unidentified		This is in the past.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This is the, I was showing you guys for context of like people who didn't remember this case of the feeding our future.
		But this is one of the mainstream cases that has really like been like the staple corner for like them to be like, all right, this is why we can't give you guys money.
		So let me see where I'm at.
unidentified		You got more?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the last things on this is like, all right, so what triggered this freeze is like audit data showing the double digit improper payment rates, the past fraud scandals like we're covering here.
		Really the public pressure and the daily viral daycare fraud claims is actually doing that too, because everyone on X, Instagram, everybody's joking around, but it's very serious to their reputation if they don't take this serious.
		So what the government is now going to be requiring.
		So before releasing funds, state must now verify attendance records for child care claims, provide services which were actually delivered, submit claim-by-claim documentation, strengthen identity and eligibility verification, improve data sharing across states to prevent duplicate.
unidentified		So payments.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you got one in Ohio, Minnesota, and you double, triple, quadruple dip.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, a lot of people, I think, were doing that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And look, they want them to do all of this before paying them.
		So like they're still investigating this actively and trying to figure out all the specifics.
		And why the states are angry is because they're pushing back in three ways, right?
		So they're saying Congress has already approved these funds.
		They're saying the executive branch can't freeze money without proving fraud because they technically haven't.
		Like these are ongoing cases too, right?
		Withholding funds violates administrative law.
		So right now there's a lot of political pressure.
		You've got governors and attorneys saying that the freeze is collective punishment.
		You've got it only targets democratic states is the issue.
		And the families that are going to be hurt over the disputes on paperwork because there are people who do genuinely benefit from the programs themselves.
		Like I knew a foster kid and they pay for your college.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They pay for them extracting.
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I 100% agree.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think we've done a good show tonight.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So the last thing on this.
unidentified		Okay.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		What even short pauses can do?
		And this is the last thing I'll cover.
		Even if they pause and he's serious about this, the immediate ramifications is it can shut down daycare centers.
		It can stop child care payments to providers, prevent parents from working, delay cash aid to families, disrupt foster care and disability services.
		And these programs typically run week to week, not yearly.
		So we'll see.
		We'll see how this plays out.
		I think they got to strategically cut it and not just binary one or zero.
unidentified		I agree.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They'll likely take a hacksaw to it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we should talk more about like social welfare programs and like the moral and ethics behind the concept of having things available for people and the way they're trying to gut all these programs.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because like you look at this, there's fraud going on.
		There's massive billion dollar fraud going on.
		But ultimately, like Mike Johnson, his goal as Speaker of the House is to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.
unidentified		Right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So like these are the real conversations that we have on the gray area.
		And that's why even a story like this that seems like recent and kind of like everyone's focusing on it and maybe a flash in the pan, it's not.
		It's indicative of a much wider picture of things developing.
		And the reason why the Republicans jumped on this so hard and that Nick Shirley guy promoting him everywhere at NASA is huge, massive.
		He's like Tate status on the internet.
		I see him everywhere.
		They're doing that for a reason, guys.
		And like you can look at it and you can say, well, the fraud's really bad.
		And I agree, the fraud is really bad.
		But ultimately, it's going to be used to cut programs for people that actually need it.
		And like, yeah, we got to be careful about that.
		People will hear that.
		And then the people that are like real like conservative will go, well, like, I don't support social welfare programs.
		I think they should be gotten rid of.
		I'm the opposite.
		I think if we're the greatest country in the world and if we are able to spend 300 billion in Ukraine, why can't we spend 300 billion taking care of our own people?
		I'm pro-life.
		I don't want people to have abortions.
		I think that means there should be paid maternity leave and subsidized things.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And that's, and that's your consistency of ideology.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's my consistency of ideology, right?
		And people can disagree with me.
		People say no, Hey, man, like ultimately, like if we have the greatest country and we're the greatest people, why are we so fat?
		Why are we so depressed?
		Why are we on so many drugs?
		Why are we fucked up?
		It's because our own government hasn't done anything for us.
		And when they do try to do something for us, it gets scanned and frauded on.
		And they're not even trying to do something for us.
		They set it up as a fraud to begin with to get rich.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And guys, there are countries that are doing welfare programs.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Our welfare programs are pretty broken and they do disinpentivize people to actually get from underneath the poverty barrier because as soon as you make over a certain threshold, you can kiss your benefits goodbye and your standard of living going from like making $100 more doesn't mean you can afford a better lifestyle.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So those things need to be fixed and it has to be completely overhauled.
		And then the last thing I'll say is I totally agree with what you're saying on all of those points.
		And if we're going to spend all that money overseas, like you said, we might as well spend it on our own people.
		But then you also need to educate.
		I think that's the main thing that's that's that's that is a is a problem.
		You have to be able to educate.
		People need to go into schools and learn financial literacy.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		People need to have and not even go to school.
		Like the tools are available for you.
		The resources are there for you, especially in the AI and information age to do all these things and to be proactive.
		New Grey Per, abortion is murder.
		We don't pay people money.
		We don't have to subsidize them to not commit crimes.
		Yeah, you say that, and that's the moral position.
		And I agree with you, but man, there's an entire other half of the country you have to convince.
		And sometimes the compromise means making things better for everybody.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And instead of like and whatever you believe about abortion, again, if you're talking about clear separation of church and state, that should not drive the well, it's murder.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's murder.
		Like it's a human being.
		If you shoot a pregnant woman, you get charged with double homicide.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that, but I'm saying on this, I hate.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We've never gotten into the abortion debate.
unidentified		People are going to get angry.
unidentified		No, no.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm incredibly pro-life.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's just basic sense.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm with nuances, and I'm not necessarily, I'm not fully on that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		If a woman is four weeks pregnant and someone shoots her in the head and she dies and the baby dies and it's known that she's pregnant during the autopsy, the person is going to jail for a double homicide.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But then when you go in to get it vacuumed out of you, that's just a medical procedure.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, but like, okay, so it's very easy.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, I wish we weren't getting this.
unidentified		I have to say it.
unidentified		Look, hold on, hold on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If you look at it of why people have a problem, it is because in Christianity, it is taught thou shall not kill and those types of things.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		It is driven.
		No, it is driven.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Atheist, scientific, let's just take God out of it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it not killing a human being?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm not saying it's not about killing a human being.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying where does the concept come from for why people have the issue in the first place?
unidentified		It is religious.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think that's deep and foundational to humanity beyond anything.
		No, but you can say it's religion-based.
		I would say it's just based on early humanity.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's not because there's other countries and other religions.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What happened before Christianity, really, Judaism?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What was the primary motive?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Hinduism was around longer than Christianity.
unidentified		You can talk about that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen to me.
		These religions, Hinduism included, involve human sacrifice, involved child sacrifice, involved all sorts of nasty things.
		The reason why you point at religion and thou shalt not kill, Christianity and Judaism, really, the Old Testament, and introduced a better foundation, meaning you do not kill your son.
		That's the whole point of the age.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But then we're not taking account for the nuances where people are like, oh, well, you should have never made the decision for like people who got raped.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Like those are cases where people are making decisions.
unidentified		And you're not there.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're going on the fringe example to prove the wider point as of why it should be legal.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's more so.
		We won't fully agree.
		My main issue is the fact that the person who has to take care of the kid ends up being a messed up person in the first place.
		And you put more evil out there.
		That's my issue.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We give those people help.
		We give those people professionals.
		But we're not ultimately, unless we got raped, which is an incredibly personality.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying, listen, unless we have the systems in place to actually help the people who are quote unquote got pregnant in bad situation.
		And there's all different types of ways you can get there, right?
		If we don't have the systems in place and you're forcing them, you and I aren't paying for the kid.
		We're not helping them out.
unidentified		That's the issue.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I would make the argument that the country should help pay for children.
		And I would make the argument that over half of black babies being aborted in New York is a very bad thing.
		I would want those people to live.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		The problem is, is not even just that.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It also comes down to the teaching.
unidentified		Human beings.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It comes down to the teaching too.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you're, if you have a kid that's raised in a single parent household, the probability of that kid going and doing bad things is significantly increased.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, so, so that's a cultural just because the probability of something bad happening in the person's life is much higher means they don't deserve the chance to live.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, what I'm saying is that this is what I'm saying.
		What I'm saying is the decision.
		Because if you're talking about being ideologically consistent, it's like somebody sitting there saying, well, freedom of speech, who defines that?
		Well, I'm making that decision and I'm deciding to take that out of the equation.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not a metaphysical thing.
		It's a literal thing.
		It's a literal thing of murder, of killing something, of ending a life in order to have personal gain of not dealing with it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, but that's not every case.
		That's what I'm saying.
		There's nuances.
		We don't provide for the nuances.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		In every case, they don't kill a human being for some sort of personal gain.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We won't agree on this point.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think it's very clear that if someone is going to be a human, then that means they're a human.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I know, but all of this is being driven by something where you're not directly involved in the situation.
		I'm saying, let's say random girl Katie here in Texas gets pregnant, shitty guy, literally deadbeat, gets her pregnant or whatever.
		Sure, she made the choice or whatever.
		Okay, she regrets it, but now she has to have the kid in a really bad situation where the kid comes messed up.
		You and I sitting here making a decision for that person when we're not involved in that scenario.
		It's difficult because she doesn't have the money.
unidentified		I don't agree.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have the ability to take care of that kid.
		She comes up from, I know a lot of people have messed up families.
		All I'm saying is, is look, I'm not sitting here saying we should just go and let abortion be like a birth control.
		No, I think that's stupid.
		I think people have consequences when it comes to that stuff.
		But at the same time, we're doing blanket rules without having some nuances built into there and without even addressing the root cause or the issues.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you have consensual sex and you create a human life, then you do not have the right to snuff that life out no matter how bad your circumstances may be.
unidentified		And I believe that.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And it's very easy when you and I are single and don't have to deal with it.
unidentified		I disagree.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, who's going to take care of the kid?
		You're not in the military, Tim.
		Why are you talking about Venezuela?
unidentified		Who's not in the military?
unidentified		You don't know.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But who's going to take care of the kid?
unidentified		Answer that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who's going to take care of the child?
		There are programs available.
		There are resources.
unidentified		What programs?
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The child would be alive, Tim.
unidentified		You're talking about the children.
		So it'll be alive.
		Let me talk.
		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me talk.
		You're talking about the child being alive and living a bad life and that being a reason for it not to exist.
		I'm saying it should have a life because God created it to have a life.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And if it has a shitty life, then what?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then it has a shitty life.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But then that ends up driving.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's like you know, you haven't met people that have no parents in the household.
unidentified		I met plenty of people.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have met plenty of those people.
unidentified		And they come out.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know things about me.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They know they come out super messed up more often than not.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I know plenty of foster kid kids, and the experience of going through that is worse than not being alive.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Plenty of people have horrible life experiences.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Should we kill them all so they don't have those life experiences in the womb?
unidentified		Look.
		This is what you're arguing for.
		Hey, look, guys.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Argue against what I just said.
unidentified		Repeat it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because a person is going to have a bad life or has a bad life, it would be more profitable for us to just get rid of them in the womb so they don't have bad life.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, it's so that humanity ends up being a net positive.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		The reason why you have no, hold on.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We actually, by letting the kid who's actually really bad, I'm saying by letting the kid who's really messed up comes from a very background, bad background, that one, that one kid could actually lead to like a mass shooting and 10 deaths.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		God wanted him to live.
unidentified		These are all the planned people.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But what I'm saying is that the probability that that kid comes messed up is significantly higher, which means he's more likely to do bad things, which leads to crime.
		No, no, I'm saying minority report.
		What I am saying is, is look, I do know the Bible because I literally, my grandmother.
unidentified		The Bible is not relevant.
		We're not, we're not the Bible.
		No, but it is, it is a religious-based thing.
		It's Christian.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, It is Christian-based.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is murder being illegal?
Jumping Roofs: Moral Scenarios 00:12:03
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Let's look it up right now.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Can we look up, is this concept based off of Christian based other religions?
unidentified		We're not doing that.
unidentified		We're having a discussion.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, but I'm saying we're having a discussion.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so where did this concept come from?
unidentified		Answer that.
		Come from law.
		It's wrong.
		No, it came from Christianity.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You can literally look this up.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You are factually incorrect about it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it a Christian concept to not murder?
unidentified		Christian concept.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, is it a Christian concept to not murder, Tim?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying the nuance.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying the nuance of this particular thing.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's Christian concept to not murder.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's murder.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You're never going to agree with me on this because there's a religious background to this.
unidentified		No.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And there's a moral thing that you have.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a popular atheist worldview.
unidentified		You're wrong.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look, it's a human.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If one kid comes out messed up, goes through life and kills 10 people.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Is that one person worth the 10 people?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That hypothetical does not.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, there's a higher probability of that kid and more of those kids.
		No, there's more.
		There are plenty of cases where those people who had messed up situations and bad families.
		No, hold on.
unidentified		Listen.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Listen, hold on.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Rex, I could literally do a whole breakdown on this.
		When you look at people who commit mass shootings, who commit very bad crimes, you look at the childhood.
		No, hold on, listen.
		You look at the childhood and it's typically driven by the childhood because they had a really bad experience.
		That is statistically true.
		If you have a kid that went and didn't know the right morals and learned from the wrong people, the chances that he goes out and commits a bad crime is based off of upbringing.
		That is nature, that is nurture, not nature.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know what this reminds me of?
		It reminds me a lot of game management, right?
		So like you have a deer lease and you got deer walking around.
		You want to kill the coal bucks.
		You want to kill a buck that has, you know, like antlers out there on one side and there's a spike on the other side.
unidentified		Boom.
unidentified		You kill him.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you have a healthier deer population.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like humans are just animals.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, but in general, your concept is about death.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If you're trying to prevent the amount, if you're trying to prevent the amount of deaths and prevent the most deaths, the least amount of deaths, right?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you would take I gotta make a point.
		I gotta make a point.
		You're talking about altering the future and making a better future through abortion, right?
		A future that does not exist if those people are alive.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So you're talking, it's I'm telling you, you're making no, no, I'm genuinely telling you.
unidentified		It's eugenics.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm genuinely telling you to prevent future situation.
		It's a correlation.
		It is about, no, it's about a chain of events.
		And if you prevent the chain of events from happening, then that event doesn't occur.
unidentified		Of course.
unidentified		What I'm saying is, hold on, hold on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You cannot sit here and not tell me that a majority of the killings that happen come from bad teachings.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Is that correct or false?
unidentified		How is that relevant?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm telling you it's relevant for this one reason.
unidentified		Explain how it's relevant.
unidentified		Okay.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If it comes from bad upbringing, and that is the reason why these people are killing in the first place, if you've got more people that come up because of the fact that if you have, don't have both parents in the household or you have somebody who's ill-equipped to actually have a kid or deal with it, the chances go up dramatically of that person actually coming out bad for society.
		Because you come down to the conclusion of it's supposed to be about life.
		If you want to prevent one person and it leads to 30 people dying, that equation does not match up.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		It is a scientific thing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think you're a scientific thing.
unidentified		I disagree.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Wrong people are having kids.
		That wrong people are having kids.
		And I don't agree with everybody having kids.
		That is my standpoint.
unidentified		I don't think.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you believe in population control.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		it's not population control.
unidentified		Is that not what it is?
		I even say this.
		The situation described is popular.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying people need to be smarter.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And there's a lot of people that are not taking the time to actually understand.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm just kidding, her, we're a colleague, et cetera.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But those people learned it from a habitual nature.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Their parents also were single-family households.
unidentified		That is the whole reason.
unidentified		So I just take it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So by breaking the, by ending the cycle, instead of having a positive change where you break the negative cycle and you do something positive despite the negative events that preceded, you just end it.
unidentified		So there's no, no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's so bad.
		You're not, you don't have describing what you're talking about.
		You're not bringing any level of. facts or figures to this or probability.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's metaphysical.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This is, but that's an emotional.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about logically.
unidentified		No, you're not.
unidentified		I'm saying people agree with me.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying logically.
		You can even read other people.
		They're literally saying correlation.
		I'm saying correlation versus causation is two different things.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You are talking about pre-crime.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about preventing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm talking about statistics.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about preventing people from being people, man.
		and you're turning it into numbers.
		No, I'm talking about- You're turning it into a calculation of, oh, this is better for humanity.
		Therefore, it is okay that we do it.
		I say humanity exists and that's better for people.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So let's have a bunch of people that have wrong upbringings and just continue to pour bad people into it.
unidentified		That's the world.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, but that's what I'm saying.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If you want society to be better overall, then you should be having situations which account for the really bad ones.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like Hitler killed the retarded people and the people in wheelchairs because they were substandard stock.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But that's not the same scenario.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		How is it not the same?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You see, it's not the same.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, if the kids come from a single parent household, the kid's going to be unsuccessful.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, because the probability of somebody coming out as retarded and in a wheelchair is lower than the chance of somebody who's in a single household and actually has a bad upbringing.
unidentified		I don't know.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think you need to think about this.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think you need to think about this.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't have to think about that.
unidentified		Here's the thing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have your beliefs.
		I'm going to have my beliefs.
		There's going to be things that we don't overlap.
unidentified		It's different.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, I'm bringing numbers to it and I'm actually getting you a different perspective.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		There's people that are going to agree with you and there's people that are going to agree with you.
unidentified		You talked a lot.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You talked a lot.
		I'm going to talk for a little bit.
		You say you bring numbers, you bring statistics, you bring facts.
		I would say that you're talking about a scenario and you're saying it's a better scenario if X thing happens.
		I'm saying X thing shouldn't happen because X thing is grotesque and illegal.
		And then we can never meet because I view what you're advocating for as a crime against humanity.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Is killing 30 people a crime against humanity?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Killing anyone is a crime against humanity.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so if you know there's, let's say you're on the train track and you know this is a scenario that will probably happen if you let it happen, right?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Would you still, would you not step in front of that situation?
unidentified		What does that mean?
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Let's say you know there's one person here and there's 30 people here.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This is the train scenario.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
unidentified		Okay.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Train is going head on.
		You have to make a decision because you know in both scenarios, somebody gets killed.
		Are you choosing the one or are you choosing the 30?
		Because it's both scenarios.
		It's like these are real case scenarios that happen.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you're so so this is this is a human child.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		This, this, this is that doesn't have any brain capacity.
unidentified		All right.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And here we and here we go.
		You have, you have tried to keep it on the future.
		You've tried to keep it on the positive impact of having the abortion for whatever you want to call it.
		I would call it population control.
		Is it a human being?
unidentified		Does it have a life?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Technically, at a certain point, at a certain point, actually what makes a human cognitively at a certain, I'm not saying abort babies at month nine.
		That's not what I'm talking about.
		There is a threshold for that.
unidentified		But you're okay with the vacuum.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying at the point at which the kid has no, it doesn't even have any concept.
		It's not life until you actually have until you actually have the organism of the heart being actually formed, all those things being into consideration.
		So you're talking about the cellular level.
		Saying, if you know at like month one or two that you're going to be this kid is going to have a super bad situation, you, you could, you should be able to have nuance going back into the future again.
unidentified		At nine, is it a child?
unidentified		I'm saying.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		At seven, i'm saying, what, what?
unidentified		What week does it?
		We can literally look.
		No, man.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you there's, there's facts to this.
unidentified		This is not.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We can literally look this up right now, man.
unidentified		The second she gets pregnant.
unidentified		It's a kid.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		If a seed is germinated and you put it in the ground at that moment, it is a plant.
		We're never going to agree on that.
		This man honestly makes me sad.
		We're not going to agree on everything worlds, we're worlds apart on this one man.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And then you should reconsider your position and look, i'm not going to sit here and try to convince you on other things as well.
		These are the things that.
		This is why we have the gray area, guys.
unidentified		What month this is raw.
unidentified		This is what month?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Does it have a heartbeat?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Around the fifth week of pregnancy it has a heartbeat and before that it's there, it exists, it's going to be a person, it is a human being.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It is a human being and you said it doesn't know it exists.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So how are you going to see?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the law disagrees with you.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		If a woman with a two-week old fetus gets shot, it's a no, but that's.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That is a law that we have created as a society and that is being driven by people who aren't in the situation.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
unidentified		It is no no no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying abortion specifically.
		I'm saying specifically abortion.
		I'm not talking about killing in general, because if you and I are here and people are going around shooting, that's a net negative to society.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a human life.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a human life that deserves to blossom and have an entire existence, no matter how horrible that existence may be, and you don't get to make that choice.
unidentified		You're not god.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what it comes down to.
		But you're talking about improving a future and that's what your argument came down to.
		It came down to improving a future by saying hey, you kill one person or you kill 30.
		You laid those out, you made that example right.
		I'm saying you don't get to kill that one person at all, because that one person.
unidentified		So how?
unidentified		Either of those?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So how is it not playing god by making the choice that that person has to keep the kid what?
		No, it's answer the question.
		How is it also not playing god in reverse by just making that decision for the person who you no listen to what i'm saying murder?
		How is it not playing god and making a decision for, on behalf of another person who you have no connection to and do not know?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is that not control prior decision that's made to have the child?
unidentified		No no, no.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm asking the question, is it not making a decision for somebody else?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And is that not playing god?
unidentified		Oh, you can't kill your baby.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, all right Tim, you can't jump off the roof.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's illegal to jump off the roof.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		If you jump off the roof, different circumstances.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You are trying to correlate those two things, two different things.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing ultimately.
		I'm just going to talk about your argument because it really is so bad.
		You're saying that you're going to make a better future by killing people in the womb because you have decided, based off their circumstances, that they're going to be a bad member of society.
unidentified		That is what you say.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I am literally saying that's minority.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You're also no, you're saying specifically that we should have the reason why we have poverty in the first place, in very bad situations.
unidentified		How do we get here, how we get?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you why we have a lot of those situations.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's because I want to answer, do you, do you think in your ideal world if, if you're, if you have like majority vote or whatever that hey, you know it makes the world better.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		These people, they don't.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		What I am saying is, if we are talking about the constitution of the government and how the system is supposed to run, there is a specific phrase that we have always gone by and is why, in legality and things, there's supposed to be and this is my macro level argument that I started with separation between church and state.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		The only reason why no no, it's not relevant.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, atheist i'm not, Not a future life of future human beings.
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tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying because we're in a multiculture environment that has a majority that is Christian.
		And I also came from Christian background.
		I'm not sitting here.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not Christian to kill children.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		It's built off of Christianity.
		If we were literally in China right now, it would be completely different how they view it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you agree with the one-child policy?
unidentified		Do you agree?
		They had to.
		Is that cool?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		They had to.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, their population was getting out of control and they wouldn't have enough resources for the rest of the people that actually existed there.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		There was an actual conclusion.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't made in a vacuum.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		I've made my point.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We will agree to disagree.
		There are people that will not like what I'm saying.
		And there's things that you will like and there's things that we don't like.
		Abortion isn't one of those things we've talked about.
unidentified		We'll talk about it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		He has a different background.
		I have a different background.
		We have different viewpoints on it.
		And a lot of it is formed from basically what experiences and life experiences we've gone through.
unidentified		Whether you guys believe it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just an interpretation of law and natural order.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I mean, okay.
unidentified		I appreciate it.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's a decision.
unidentified		All right.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So, guys, we're going to end stream.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Look, at the end of the day, we're the show to have fun.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We do the show to have a good time.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We do a show to have these spirited debates and discussions because we know that's what y'all want.
unidentified		This is not boring.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is very fun, entertaining, and educational.
		And you get to hear two different perspectives and what people think.
		So stay tuned.
		We're going to be live tomorrow.
		We're going to be live Thursday.
		We're having the guy that's running against Randy Fine come on.
		That's going to be really exciting.
		And then Sunday, we have a big guest.
		We're going to keep that secret partially because it's hard to say his name.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You can pull up his ex account.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, actually, we'll do that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like as far as SOL, right?
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's super hard to pronounce his name.
unidentified		Yeah, we'll find it.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're having this guy on on Sunday.
unidentified		What is it?
unidentified		No, it's not that.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Will you look it up on your phone?
unidentified		Yeah.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have this guy on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's Suleimani Ahmed.
unidentified		How do you spell it?
unidentified		S-U-L-A.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think I saw him.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		That one.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're going to have this guy on.
		He's a Middle East expert.
		He's also ragged on my dad quite a fair bit.
unidentified		From the UK.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be interesting.
		He's got a big following.
		He's from the UK.
		He's also got UK information as well.
		This is going to be really fun.
		So you're going to want to be here on Sunday when we do this and we have this guy on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And just to preface, guys, like, again, we don't sit here.
		Like, I'm not going to sit here even after this conversation and like put Rex on the stakes for his belief system.
		And I wouldn't expect it for the rest of the time.
unidentified		I don't think you survive.
unidentified		Huh?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you survive.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you want to have a three-hour argument after about this topic, we can have it.
unidentified		Don't say that.
		No, I'm saying.
		Listen to what I'm saying.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		You didn't even hear what I said.
		I'm saying that there are particular issues that no matter how you spin it, two people are never going to agree.
		But that does not mean that you're going to sit there and make that their whole identity.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is that we have to compromise on certain things.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And this is what I'm saying.
		On this particular topic, it will not make me look at you any different.
		As well as if anyone in the audience had a particular perspective, there are things that are moral.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a morality thing.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And that's fine.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		You discount it completely.
		You throw it out of the window.
		And I don't think you can do that.
		I really don't think you can do that when you make the religious argument.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		We come from two different backgrounds.
		People live on two different parts of the United States, two different parts of the world.
		They grew up within certain things.
		They have certain belief systems that formed whatever they did.
		Everyone has local truths.
		There are a billion people that would agree with you, and there's a billion people that would agree with me.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Killing a baby is killing a baby.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, there's a reason why it's been divided for the entire existence of America.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		There's a whole population.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Advantageous to get an abortion?
		I'm telling you, it does improve people all lives.
		It's not the life of the.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		All i'm saying is that take the stop with the argument.
		I'm saying just from the.
		I i'm saying just from the idea of the statements and the ideologies in whole, wow, people are going to have differences based off of however they grew up.
		That should not define where you can't find overlaps and where you agree.
		You're never going to agree with everything on everybody.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		That makes this so difficult is to find an overlap or a compromise.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there really isn't one, besides the rape example, which I might, might concede to if it's early, early on.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even saying we have to compromise.
		I'm not even saying we have to compromise on this.
		I'm talking about a set of things as a data.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that's why the debate got so intense is because like, we're worlds apart on this and that is totally fine, but it's, it is okay to be like that, and there are going to be other positions that we're worlds apart on as well, and that goes forward.
		To make the point of why you're watching the show, the show is not a circle jerk.
		The show is not a fucking football experience where you cheer for the left or the right.
		We're here hashing out these issues, talking about these stories, and we didn't even think of this abortion thing at all.
unidentified		We didn't.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It didn't even come to.
unidentified		No, it just came up naturally.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It came up naturally and I think it's a good conversation for people to hear and there and they're gonna be people that are angry with me.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		It's, i'm okay, i'm okay with that.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Look the we're gonna have.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're your views, mine are my views.
unidentified		It is, and that's what i'm saying.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		So, like i'm not gonna sit here.
		There would be like a whole.
		There would be like okay, there's a whole population that would be like sitting on here uh, and maybe not even our audience, but in general, just in society here in Austin Right, because it's super blue, that would be like Rex, you are a really bad person because you have this belief system.
unidentified		I just say, you don't want to kill.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		How dare you call a black people my, my body?
		They'd be like my body, my choice.
		You're uh, you're this Texas conservative like uh, masculine man, splat man.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just, I just want black people to be alive, because they're the majority of my abortion i'm making.
unidentified		I, I want them to be alive.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm making a point see I, i'm listen to what i'm saying.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I think all i'm saying is i'm saying all i'm saying is is that there's a big group of population that would literally call you those things, but it does not define you, is what i'm saying?
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well yeah, because i'm right ultimately, and that's how everyone feels about their.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Exactly that's what i'm saying.
		You're gonna say that there's gonna be things that I, I would be like oh, i'm completely right on this thing, but you'd be like you're wrong and it's gonna be vice versa.
		We're never you're.
		There's certain things you're never gonna agree on, guys.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well very, very fun.
		We went over the two hour mark.
		We set out to do 90 minutes.
		We're gonna end the show again.
		Remember, we're gonna be live tomorrow.
		We're gonna be live thursday with the guy running against Randy Fine, in Congress.
		That's gonna be very exciting.
		And then on sunday save the date, don't forget we're having this guy on and you're gonna want to tune in for that.
		So, book market we're gonna talk about the Middle East, talk about Palestine, talk about the Uk a lot of exciting stuff going to happen.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Somebody made a good comment here.
		This is a perfect illustration on how hard the topic is, I see both sides, I hope uh, scroll up, please sorry, I hope That's your opinion.
		No, no, I'm just saying, like, I hope Rex is able to understand and realize that it's okay to disagree.
unidentified		Great job, gentlemen.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		I really realize from a diplomatic level, from a friend level, it's okay to disagree.
		This is core objective morality to me, which is why I won't budge from it.
		It's just like I see them killing kids in Gaza.
		And I won't.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not sitting here penalizing you for it either.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, that's okay for you to believe that.
unidentified		Okay.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		And vice versa, because if we penalized either of each other, we wouldn't be doing the show.
unidentified		Exactly.
		So, thank you for being here.
		Thank you guys.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		We really appreciate it.
		And feel free to go ahead and go to goprimalcore.com if you enjoyed this and help support us, help us be able to pay for producer/slash switcher.
		If you want to do that, the website is right here.
		Just going to go ahead and pull this up.
		And we got winners.
		We got people that won in the giveaway.
		We're going to be sending you guys your products, specifically Rudy, who's in the chat right now.
		You can go to goprimalcore.com and check out all the products we have.
		It's not just this elemental drive product, high-quality multi-mineral for men and women, but for men, it has really dramatic effects.
		And then, of course, we have the combo pack, which is what you really want.
unidentified		It's what you really need.
rex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's got the ultimate ashwagandha, KSM66, well studied, raises testosterone, lowers cortisol.
		And then we got that ultimate mineral blend that I was telling you about.
		But perfect.
tim tompkins ▲ ● ▼		Thank you guys for joining us.
		We didn't expect that last half, but still, this is the gray area.
		Thank you guys.
unidentified		Welcome to the show.
Ancient Remedies for Vitality 00:00:34
unidentified		Modern life has left us out of balance.
		Long ago, it was once said certain remedies could grant a man the vitality of a horse for over 6,000 years.
		These natural remedies have been harvested and tested by generations.

Chapters

00:06:55 Bongino Situation Revealed
00:09:48 Promises Broken
00:12:36 Seeking Dynamic Guests
00:16:22 Trump's Oil Play
00:31:47 Rebuilding Ukraine's Future
00:40:53 White Pill Joke
00:48:02 Deputy Director's Comeback Bid
01:03:02 Trump's Team Management
01:15:07 Racist Jury Corruption
01:30:31 The Kid Bad Theory
01:46:01 Jumping Roofs: Moral Scenarios
01:57:49 Different Backgrounds, Different Views
02:06:32 Ancient Remedies for Vitality