And to go from that and to go from like the ultimate, like, I'm going to expose Epstein and like the pedophile person, like once I get into office, to go from that to then being the guy that goes, I've seen the file.
He killed himself.
He killed himself.
And you just have to go like, man, like that was, he was one of the cases that really disappointed me the most in the entire Trump administration.
What's important is he got into office and he literally, like, you want to talk about promises kept, promises broken.
And the Trump administration always says promises made, promises kept.
Yeah.
There's no bigger promise broken than the Epstein file.
That everything else, if Trump was doing everything else bad and continuing the wars and we're still having problems with the economy and money, but if he had released the file, everyone would be jumping for joy, right?
I mean, the thing is, it's cool to get badass guests and people that have big audiences, right?
And like, that's what we want for the show.
We also want to talk to people that are just interested in what we're talking about, number one, in regards to having a gray area, an open dialogue, a Socratic discussion of what goes on.
You know, Fishback really impressed me and we talked about it after the show and, like you know, he really reminded me of Chase Geyser, like and I I know Chase right, like I i've i've known Chase in person.
Right, it's like the mannerisms, the glasses the, the fast talking but being like on target and knowing what you're talking about, but being very passionate and like the, the tone of voice where it's very intentional and they talk like this right, like Chase and Fishback both kind of had that going for them and I like I hope he does.
Well, he has my endorsement for what it's worth and it was a phenomenal interview and we're going to be doing a really high quality interview uh, this sunday that y'all really aren't going to want to miss.
Um, like I said, 2026 new Year, New Us, all right yes, and to add to that, I didn't do it monday because I had to run back down to east Texas on some emergency business, but mondays and fridays I will be doing a solo show out of here.
It's still going to be GRAY AREA, GRAY AREA Affiliated, might have a different name, might just be my name and then, like Rex X, GRAY Area or however however, it's going to work Monday through Friday, or Monday and Friday, I'm going to do a show.
It'll be like a two to three hour show, and we're going to cover a lot of health stuff, a lot of supplement news, a lot of information on supplements.
And I'm going to cover some more sloppy stuff than we usually talk about because Tim really likes the clinical information source gathering type of thing, right?
Well, the thing is, is like we want to give people the opportunity to tune in whenever they want.
And typically when we do a show, we're talking about things happening now, right?
We're providing like news, relevant information, and so much has happened this year already.
So if you want to hear, like, if there's a latest update to give, regardless of what the topic of the show will be, we'll always give that latest update.
So if we want to get into this right now, let's go ahead and get into this.
So Justin, Trump says Venezuela will be turning in over 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the United States of America sold at market price with the money controlled by Trump.
I am pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the United States of America.
This oil will be sold at its market price and that money will be controlled by me.
It's just, you never, I didn't think this was like, I didn't think, well, I just didn't think the administration would be this like open and nuts, but they are.
As president of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States, I have asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately.
It will be taken by storage ships and brought directly to the unloading docks in the United States.
Yeah, it's not like just like, this isn't like me just trying to be like critical of Trump and like the Republicans and all that stuff.
Like, this is really not a bipartisan issue for me.
It's just strictly just looking at it from like a fundamental issue of just like, we're exerting power.
Like other times, you know, I've seen it in history and we've seen the stuff like, you know, what the U.S. has done or these colonial powers have done.
But like with social media and just seeing it play out live, it kind of hits you harder.
I'm incredibly critical of the American military's capabilities in regards to like power scaling versus the other ones.
I think the other ones are more powerful than we give them credit for.
And I think we've depleted a lot of our resources.
That being said, the operation in Venezuela has people on the right talking about this like it's a good thing because like I saw due dissidents make this point.
MAGA isn't necessarily anti-war, referring to Trump's MAGA.
Look, all this stuff is easy when you're not on the receiving end.
So like for us to sit here, take that position and be like, okay, hoorah, America first.
It's like for the people who are doing that, you got to understand on the macro psychology of this, this comes to haunt us down the road.
Just keep in mind, okay?
When you have a bully in the room and you take things to an extreme, people silently make moves in the background and they clock it and it becomes your new reality.
If you're bringing money to a territory and you're doing right by the people and it's a mutual benefit, people just break deals all of a sudden for no reason.
Unless you really had some psycho get into power, which people can make that claim for certain things, but we weren't doing the best thing by Venezuela at that time point either.
Let's just use a technical term like it's imperialist.
Like we're building empire, right?
And like everyone likes to compare America to Rome.
America is very Roman, and we're leaving a period of being an actual functioning for whatever it's worth.
Maybe it never functioned republic into being an actual empire.
And I love Trump for a decade straight.
Me criticizing him now comes from a place of great pain because he was the only political figure I ever truly believed in, right?
Because I was brought up to question all these people, but I end up falling for Trump because I believe he's like the third party ascension route out of here.
And they just give him the Reagan deal and say, hey, run the country into the ground, take over everything, be the new Reagan, and we'll keep you safe.
We won't release Epstein files.
You know, you'd be fine.
And I think he took that deal.
And him taking that deal is the biggest betrayal to me as just a voter.
And it makes me say, why would I care about the party?
What has the party ever done for you or me?
Right.
On either side.
So, like, I think we're in an age where people need to stop calling themselves Democrats or Republicans.
And it's, it's, we have another slide here, but it's always the example of a terrorist, right?
Like, if your father got blown up in a drone strike by the U.S. government and you're like eight years old and you see his like head roll down the street, you would want to fight and kill Americans, right?
And like, that's that's reasonable, it's rational, doesn't make it moral, but you have a clear logic of okay, X thing happened, Y thing happened.
Drone strike, blowing up a building, drone strike, suicide bomb.
Well, that's what they say is empires in 250 years old, right?
Having a hard time getting over that hump.
I think it'll be interesting from an imperialist perspective of being like a smart play to take over a weak country with no nuclear weapons.
I mean, if there are no rules, obviously in a game of civilization, that's probably the best move you can make, right?
But it's not a game of civilization.
There is international law and these things should matter.
And this is what I believe.
And ultimately, people will cheer for it and go, ooh, rah, but because of the Israel stuff and because of the Epstein stuff, we're going to lose midterms and then we're going to lose in 2028.
And then there'll be a Democratic president with all these powers and more.
Trump demands Venezuela kick out China and Russia, partner only with U.S. on oil exclusive.
The White House sets demands for Venezuela to pump more oil.
So we took over their country.
Like we literally took over their country.
The Trump administration has told Venezuela's interim president, Dulcy Rodriguez, that the regime must meet their White House demands before being allowed to pump more oil, according to the three people familiar with the administration's plan.
First, the country must kick out China, Russia, Iran, and Cuba and sever economic ties.
The sources said, second, Venezuela must agree to partner exclusively with the U.S. on oil production and favor America when selling heavy crude.
Only saving grace for this situation working out is if after you replace the people with who you want, if you're actually helping the country by a symbiotic relationship.
That's the only thing I can see that saves us is the lifeline.
I just like from the conversations with people that I've had that are actually Venezuelan, from what they told me, and it's what I've said on the show a few times, and I've definitely told it to you or said it to you, excuse me.
The rich ones left when Maduro came in power, millions of them left.
And by rich, just meaning anyone with any money, really.
And then you had that underclass and that got subsidized with the oil money and they liked Maduro, right?
Because they actually got some of the subsidized oil money.
They have to put somebody in that makes sense and that actually gels and that they can control properly to give the U.S. the benefits that it needs while also allowing the country to act within its own sovereignty to actually flourish.
Here's my issue as well.
I don't like China and Russia having interest in Venezuela.
Of course, like if it's the biggest oil reserve and let's say we have to go to war and like all that stuff, you don't want them having access at that point, right?
Especially not in your own hemisphere where they can set up bases.
So you look at like certain countries, let's say territories like Puerto Rico, they get the benefit of having the America, you know, the dollar and having like access to America and all these different things while also keeping their right.
Like that only scenario that I could were to absorb, quote unquote.
Not like making them U.s citizens.
I'm not suggesting that whatsoever.
I'm saying we're gonna make a bunch of new voters.
We can't, we can't do anything about it and it's it's not, it's not our fault right, like we didn't, as Americans, decide and wake up one day and be like man, I really hope Maduro is in New New York City getting arraigned, like like I really want to see him in the back of a van.
Like I, no American wanted that besides the people in the situation room and they did it and it's impressive and I I don't think anyone can say it wasn't an impressive military operation, right.
But just because something is cool doesn't mean that it's good.
Like if you watch like I don't I, I don't know, i'm trying to think of a good example if you watch a horror movie and you're like wow, that's good that just because, like it's still a horror movie fantastic, you know, it's the best one i've ever seen.
But they're not supposed to do that.
Man and a bunch of people died.
And you can argue like, should those people have died?
You know, and you like countries are they sovereign or are they like all American America's little children, that we can go like curb stomp unless you have nukes right, and like that's why China Russia Israel, that's why they get special treatment right, it's because they have nuclear weapons and 30 million people.
Ukraine has a population of, like I heard as low as 19 million now, but you got 30 million in Venezuela.
Our government looks at that and says hey, we can take that over.
Well, it's not just that, it's like you look at the technology they have for military, like right, there are countries that don't have nukes, but like you still wouldn't go and invade them like uh, like a South Korea, you know, because their military is so strong.
The torto with the ak is, it doesn't have enough ap, doesn't have enough armor penetration right, when you send the delta force down and into the no Bueno, me Presidente.
No damn okay, that's a funny, that's a funny mental picture, if you just think about it for a while here we'll read this from Nimrod Pod really quick, uh Glenn, Beck and Alex made the argument that 70 of China's Non-us Controlled oil supply comes from Venezuela and Russia.
Quote, so if we topple the Venezuelan and Iranian regimes at the same time uh, they won't be able to invade Taiwan.
But what they didn't mention is that only 13 of Chinese oil comes from Venezuela.
Yeah, I mean that that's, that's very, that's very detailed.
I, I agree with you, man.
I mean, like I don't, I don't, I don't trust Patrick Burn, like I don't trust CIA people, you know, and like it's everyone's wet dream to take this place over and save it because it's the greatest place ever, has the greatest people ever.
But there's evil mob bosses we have.
We have to beat them and defeat them, when in reality it's just like one of the richest places on earth and we want to take it over.
Why, like Fuentes is like happy about it for that reason, like why can't we just be honest about why we're doing it, right.
That's why I disagree with it is because, number one, you're lying to me about it, which means that, even if you're going to give me your real justification for it like like, it's based on nothing, right?
Task force buddy, It is cool, but like, and that's the, that's the, the, that's the rough part is like, it's cool because you can see, like America, when they actually really want to do something, like how powerful we actually are, you know.
But we also think critically that we are very, very close to finishing up as robust a prosperity agreement as any country has ever seen coming out of conflicts like this.
It will aspirationally mean large, large possibilities to the Ukrainian people, for people coming home from war who will find wonderful jobs out there.
We're working with BlackRock, Larry Fink in this endeavor.
But if I just look at it from like just a purely analytical standpoint, like if Ukraine were to try to do all this on its own, like let's say they didn't even go to war, right?
And they didn't have to even rebuild and they were just a sovereign nation as is.
The development of what they're doing plus the corruption that they have.
But like legal corruption doesn't stop the people from enjoying the resources and the things.
Cause like, you know, even though I could sit here and complain about corruption in our country, you know, we have really nice outdoor areas and everything's super well developed.
And like, you know, you go walk around Austin and it just feels like bliss, you know?
So like part of that comes from the fact of like America has so much money and we pour so many resources for every shiny thing you see every test or every like every Apple Watch.
So you would want, you would, I'd rather have United States than China.
I'll tell you that.
You know, because at the end of the day, like the U.S. company is going to make it like, you know, fabulous, you know, and something that the people probably will enjoy more than whatever it is that they currently have because their government couldn't get their shit together to do it in the first place.
And Bongino, after the spectacular failure at the FBI, really not a failure.
He executed his mission perfectly, which was to obfuscate the Epstein files.
He's back to podcasting now.
And this is a big, big deal.
Good to see you all.
I missed you.
Thanks for everything while we worked on cleaning up.
Working in the administration was the experience of a lifetime.
I'll have some announcements coming up, but I'm taking a couple of days to spend with the family.
A couple of things.
Thank you for your interest in the show and its return date.
We will have something for you soon.
The Trump team is not kidding around.
Tough, tough talk.
It's an otherworldly experience from the other side.
He's determined and focused.
And having been around quite a few presidents, this one broke the mold.
If we blocked you, it's because we care so little about your bullshit that we deem it not worthy of even seeing.
If you're bitching and whining about it, that means you can't exist without seeing and commenting on ours.
You'll need to get over that.
I can do a bad job.
I can lie to you.
I can go and renounce my principles and my actions during my job and then come back to my show and say whatever I want and insult you and talk to you like you're a little kid.
And I love Star Wars, but I mean, like, here's the thing.
He's trying to act tough about failing at doing his job and then coming back to his first job where he promised the purpose of doing that first job was to get into the second job so he could save the kids.
I just, it's a tongue twister.
Right.
Maybe you come up with a new Bongino tongue twister.
We like to say at the InfoWars office, we like to say his name, like Bongino.
I mean, the thing is, they're like, look, you're not a good fit here.
Your reputation has been destroyed.
Nobody trusts you anymore.
Here's the thing: you played ball and helped us cover up one of the greatest organized crime, if not the greatest organized cookbook in American history.
You are a good boy.
You will get podcasting.
And just like Ben Shapiro got the artificial push on Facebook and Meta and whatnot, we're going to push your show to old people that are partially retarded due to alcohol abuse over the years.
They're going to drink boxed wine and listen to your show and think that you're tough.
And then he goes, all right, that's a good deal.
And like, that's the deal that was taken, in my opinion.
Let's see what we have next.
And this is a very chill show.
We're going to end the show before two hours.
It's real, real easy.
And Tim's got a topic, but after that, I'll stop yapping.
This is my last topic for tonight.
Trump endorses Navy SEAL Gallrin against Representative Massey in Kentucky primary.
January 5th, Trump praised Galrin, a retired Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, combat veteran, and Kentucky farmer, as the ideal candidate to secure borders and peace through strength in Kentucky's fourth district Republican primary on May 19th.
I see Massey, a libertarian-leaning incumbent since 2012, dismissed the attack with the meme and highlighted his opposition to foreign aid and deficits, boasting strong past election wins over 70%.
Gallery's campaign raised about 1.2 million right after filing on January 6th, spotlighting a long-running feud, the test GOP unity between loyalists and Massey.
When it came to the Secret Service debacle and keeping President Trump alive, I met with Matt Gates up at the Heritage thing when I did that little congressional hearing we did.
And there's no one more concerned about keeping Trump safe than this guy.
Here's Matt Gates versus Christopher Ray.
This is one of the finest clips you'll see today.
This guy understands that Christopher Ray, who hopefully will be leaving his job the minute Trump is sworn in, Matt Gates gets it.
The FBI management has worked as a singular force to destroy liberties and freedoms in the United States.
And they better get a guy in there who's willing to see it for what it is.
This is Trump dissing Massey and endorsing the Ed Goreland guy.
I'll go ahead and read it for the people that want to hear it read.
The incredible people of Kentucky's fourth congressional district who want desperately to get rid of Thomas Massey, the worst Republican congressman we have had in many years, gave us a mandate to make America great again.
The person that will help us do this job and do it right is Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, fifth generation Kentucky farmer, and American hero, Captain Ed Gallery, a true patriot.
Today, Ed, who also happens to be central casting, like this is what's he literally, it's literally like it's admitted here.
I guess I can't select it or make it blue.
Central casting means an actor, like you look like you could do the job, yeah.
I just bought at the store, isn't he perfect for being in a fishbowl?
Like, that's that's literally literally, he has as much care for that guy as he does for a fucking insect, but he's willing to put him and millions of dollars and tens or dozens or hundreds of his personal hours working against Thomas Massey through that guy.
It's crazy to me that people don't see that.
Um, today, Ed, who also happens to be central casting, officially filed the run for Congress.
I have heard that there were other candidates exploring to run for the seat, but I'm asking all Mago warriors.
Man, I don't want to be a Mago warrior.
Like, I don't want to be called that.
That sounds like a derogatory term to rally behind Captain Ed Gallrin, the candidate who is far and away, best positioned to defeat third-rate Congressman Thomas Massey, a weak and pathetic rhino from the beautiful Commonwealth of Kentucky, a place I love and won big all three times.
This was a story like, this is like four or five months ago, I believe, at this point.
But when that happened, you know, Trump, for as much as I criticize him, he is better at managing his team, even if they're all working together, which I think they are in cooperation to do evil stuff.
He is better at working his team and he's better at telling them.
He's like, look, here's what we're going to do.
All right.
Mr. Walls, you are no longer whatever position you had in the Defense Department.
You are now ambassador to the U.N. You now go over there because you fucked up.
I'm not going to terminate your career, but it's like when you, when you fail or fuck up in the military, they promote you, right?
Because they send you away or they do something like that.
So you look at that situation and you look at Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino's fall from grace is way more severe.
The thing is, if he comes back and does his show, but he comes back from the position of instead of staying in the FBI for a year and glazing them and being a glizzy gobbler.
If he comes back like two months after being, he's like, hey, they won't let me touch this stuff.
So like that, that is actually a powerful political principle because like there's never been an age of civilized politic where people wouldn't hurt people's families or whatever if like dark factions of the government needed something done.
According to local reports, Iran's regime has lost control of Abdenan to protesters with security units pushed back and some joining the demonstrators.
Like, I don't think Minnesota was doing the right thing financially when it came to this whole Somalia stuff.
You know, I mean, the Somali people.
So I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know, he shouldn't withhold funding.
I think there needs to be more transparency.
Now, it doesn't mean that like, you know, the federal government's not hypocritical because they're doing the same thing.
That's a different question.
But if I'm just looking at this situation from just a vacuum, yeah, I think, you know, you should hardball and have like way more checks and balances to how people are getting money.
I don't think the American people should be paying taxes for programs where they're mismanaged.
And like, that's because we blockaded them and we've prevented them from being successful.
That's just the truth.
You can go, they're communists.
They don't deserve anything, whatever.
But like when we sanction you and when we do it for decades and when we make it impossible for you to essentially live in the modern economy or modern life and block off any hope you might have of doing so, then your country is destroyed and then people are having a hard time eating.
And then I come extract you from your country and bring you to my country versus going over and making a deal with someone to leave a greater protectorate.
So going back to what we're talking about with this, you don't have to show it quite yet because I want to give some background information.
So yes, this $10 billion welfare related funding to these five states, California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, New York.
These are people that he's rattled off, but for sure, these are probably the first ones that are going to get targeted.
So this pause affects three federal programs, TAANF, which is temporary assistance for needy families, which is like cash assistance to low-income families.
You've got child care and development fund, pays child care costs so parents can work.
That's also affected.
Then you've got social services block grant.
That also will be affected, which there are funds for foster care, disability service, child protection, and family support.
So together, all of those programs for those particular states, those end up being $10 billion across those five states.
All right.
So why is the federal government doing this?
Part of it is Minnesota, right?
I mean, they're thinking about like the fact that there's a fraud risk.
You know, Feeding Our Future first caught the state's attention in the summer and fall of 2020 when they were claiming just large numbers of children being fed under this federal funding.
Seven people, including Feeding Our Future founder, Amy Bach.
Charges include conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, and illegal kickbacks.
Accused of under relaxed COVID regulations, opening more than 200 free meal sites across Minnesota, each site claiming to serve between 2,000 and 6,000 children every day.
The U.S. attorney says they submitted fake rosters filled with children who don't exist.
Only about one or two percent of the names in most of these sites match the school rosters.
Now, the indictments are broken up into six different indictments because the federal authorities here allege that there were six different groups that had created these meal sites, all of them sponsored by Feeding Our Future.
They were kind of the middleman between the federal funding and meal sites.
So they're the ones that are fortunate to.
So again, a massive alleged fraud scheme here.
It was expected that three people are already going to be pleading guilty to charges here.
We should, we should, we should learn more about, we should learn more about Somalia because I don't know the first thing about it, to be honest with you.
I know they're trying to break off that new area and make Somaliland, which Israel has recognized.
So they want to put the Palestinians there in Somaliland.
So you are standing trial, and then you want to go and try to bribe the jury while you're in the middle of that.
You couldn't be any more stupid.
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Defendants are accused of a sophisticated plot to get to juror 52 with money, then detailed on how to convince the rest of the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the government of being racist against the Somali immigrants.
After being driven back to a key instructions on how to convince the rest of the jury to vote nothing, okay.
They followed the money or the numbers, and it's racist to follow the numbers.
The government kept food industry or food program works.
Prejudice, like I read, the government kept attacking Somali witnesses and asking them if it's true in Somali culture to cheat, steal, or lie, which was very racist.
The government just followed the money and didn't do any real investigation to better understand the reimbursement program.
Hadith was a big-time liar, and no one should believe him.
His main goal is to get a deal from the government and not go to prison.
They convinced the rest of the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the government of being racist against the Somali immigrants.
After being driven back to juror number 52's house by this man, Abdul Karim Farah, Ali is accused of bringing $120,000 cash to the door and promising juror 52's family member that more money would come.
In fact, Carol News was only able to find one other documented case in our state in 1961 during an actual mob trial taking place in Minneapolis involving the Kid Can liquor syndicate.
He is the absolute most notorious mobster in Minnesota history.
Twin Cities filmmaker Michael Greenberg studied Isadore Kid Kan Blumenfeld, hoping to turn his short film into a series.
In the 60s, obviously times had changed and it was out of an act of desperation of trying to bribe somebody that they had no previous relationship with.
The mob bribe was unsuccessful.
Just like in the Feeding Our Future case, the judge in the Kid Can case called the attempted bribe an even more serious crime than the underlying liquor law trial.
Luger characterizes it as an assault on the integrity of the justice system.
This is the, I was showing you guys for context of like people who didn't remember this case of the feeding our future.
But this is one of the mainstream cases that has really like been like the staple corner for like them to be like, all right, this is why we can't give you guys money.
Yeah, the last things on this is like, all right, so what triggered this freeze is like audit data showing the double digit improper payment rates, the past fraud scandals like we're covering here.
Really the public pressure and the daily viral daycare fraud claims is actually doing that too, because everyone on X, Instagram, everybody's joking around, but it's very serious to their reputation if they don't take this serious.
So what the government is now going to be requiring.
So before releasing funds, state must now verify attendance records for child care claims, provide services which were actually delivered, submit claim-by-claim documentation, strengthen identity and eligibility verification, improve data sharing across states to prevent duplicate.
And look, they want them to do all of this before paying them.
So like they're still investigating this actively and trying to figure out all the specifics.
And why the states are angry is because they're pushing back in three ways, right?
So they're saying Congress has already approved these funds.
They're saying the executive branch can't freeze money without proving fraud because they technically haven't.
Like these are ongoing cases too, right?
Withholding funds violates administrative law.
So right now there's a lot of political pressure.
You've got governors and attorneys saying that the freeze is collective punishment.
You've got it only targets democratic states is the issue.
And the families that are going to be hurt over the disputes on paperwork because there are people who do genuinely benefit from the programs themselves.
Like I knew a foster kid and they pay for your college.
And we should talk more about like social welfare programs and like the moral and ethics behind the concept of having things available for people and the way they're trying to gut all these programs.
And then the people that are like real like conservative will go, well, like, I don't support social welfare programs.
I think they should be gotten rid of.
I'm the opposite.
I think if we're the greatest country in the world and if we are able to spend 300 billion in Ukraine, why can't we spend 300 billion taking care of our own people?
I'm pro-life.
I don't want people to have abortions.
I think that means there should be paid maternity leave and subsidized things.
And guys, there are countries that are doing welfare programs.
Our welfare programs are pretty broken and they do disinpentivize people to actually get from underneath the poverty barrier because as soon as you make over a certain threshold, you can kiss your benefits goodbye and your standard of living going from like making $100 more doesn't mean you can afford a better lifestyle.
And instead of like and whatever you believe about abortion, again, if you're talking about clear separation of church and state, that should not drive the well, it's murder.
If a woman is four weeks pregnant and someone shoots her in the head and she dies and the baby dies and it's known that she's pregnant during the autopsy, the person is going to jail for a double homicide.
But then when you go in to get it vacuumed out of you, that's just a medical procedure.
These religions, Hinduism included, involve human sacrifice, involved child sacrifice, involved all sorts of nasty things.
The reason why you point at religion and thou shalt not kill, Christianity and Judaism, really, the Old Testament, and introduced a better foundation, meaning you do not kill your son.
But then we're not taking account for the nuances where people are like, oh, well, you should have never made the decision for like people who got raped.
Like those are cases where people are making decisions.
Like, if you're, if you have a kid that's raised in a single parent household, the probability of that kid going and doing bad things is significantly increased.
So, so, so that's a cultural just because the probability of something bad happening in the person's life is much higher means they don't deserve the chance to live.
If you have consensual sex and you create a human life, then you do not have the right to snuff that life out no matter how bad your circumstances may be.
Because a person is going to have a bad life or has a bad life, it would be more profitable for us to just get rid of them in the womb so they don't have bad life.
We actually, by letting the kid who's actually really bad, I'm saying by letting the kid who's really messed up comes from a very background, bad background, that one, that one kid could actually lead to like a mass shooting and 10 deaths.
But what I'm saying is that the probability that that kid comes messed up is significantly higher, which means he's more likely to do bad things, which leads to crime.
No, no, I'm saying minority report.
What I am saying is, is look, I do know the Bible because I literally, my grandmother.
Rex, I could literally do a whole breakdown on this.
When you look at people who commit mass shootings, who commit very bad crimes, you look at the childhood.
No, hold on, listen.
You look at the childhood and it's typically driven by the childhood because they had a really bad experience.
That is statistically true.
If you have a kid that went and didn't know the right morals and learned from the wrong people, the chances that he goes out and commits a bad crime is based off of upbringing.
If you're trying to prevent the amount, if you're trying to prevent the amount of deaths and prevent the most deaths, the least amount of deaths, right?
If it comes from bad upbringing, and that is the reason why these people are killing in the first place, if you've got more people that come up because of the fact that if you have, don't have both parents in the household or you have somebody who's ill-equipped to actually have a kid or deal with it, the chances go up dramatically of that person actually coming out bad for society.
Because you come down to the conclusion of it's supposed to be about life.
If you want to prevent one person and it leads to 30 people dying, that equation does not match up.
So by breaking the, by ending the cycle, instead of having a positive change where you break the negative cycle and you do something positive despite the negative events that preceded, you just end it.
No, because the probability of somebody coming out as retarded and in a wheelchair is lower than the chance of somebody who's in a single household and actually has a bad upbringing.
Okay, so if you know there's, let's say you're on the train track and you know this is a scenario that will probably happen if you let it happen, right?
Would you still, would you not step in front of that situation?
I'm saying at the point at which the kid has no, it doesn't even have any concept.
It's not life until you actually have until you actually have the organism of the heart being actually formed, all those things being into consideration.
So you're talking about the cellular level.
Saying, if you know at like month one or two that you're going to be this kid is going to have a super bad situation, you, you could, you should be able to have nuance going back into the future again.
It's a human life that deserves to blossom and have an entire existence, no matter how horrible that existence may be, and you don't get to make that choice.
You're not god.
That's what it comes down to.
But you're talking about improving a future and that's what your argument came down to.
It came down to improving a future by saying hey, you kill one person or you kill 30.
You laid those out, you made that example right.
I'm saying you don't get to kill that one person at all, because that one person.
I'm just going to talk about your argument because it really is so bad.
You're saying that you're going to make a better future by killing people in the womb because you have decided, based off their circumstances, that they're going to be a bad member of society.
It's because I want to answer, do you, do you think in your ideal world if, if you're, if you have like majority vote or whatever that hey, you know it makes the world better.
What I am saying is, if we are talking about the constitution of the government and how the system is supposed to run, there is a specific phrase that we have always gone by and is why, in legality and things, there's supposed to be and this is my macro level argument that I started with separation between church and state.
All i'm saying is that take the stop with the argument.
I'm saying just from the.
I i'm saying just from the idea of the statements and the ideologies in whole, wow, people are going to have differences based off of however they grew up.
That should not define where you can't find overlaps and where you agree.
You're never going to agree with everything on everybody.
I know, but that's why the debate got so intense is because like, we're worlds apart on this and that is totally fine, but it's, it is okay to be like that, and there are going to be other positions that we're worlds apart on as well, and that goes forward.
To make the point of why you're watching the show, the show is not a circle jerk.
The show is not a fucking football experience where you cheer for the left or the right.
We're here hashing out these issues, talking about these stories, and we didn't even think of this abortion thing at all.
There would be like okay, there's a whole population that would be like sitting on here uh, and maybe not even our audience, but in general, just in society here in Austin Right, because it's super blue, that would be like Rex, you are a really bad person because you have this belief system.
I'm making a point see I, i'm listen to what i'm saying.
I think all i'm saying is i'm saying all i'm saying is is that there's a big group of population that would literally call you those things, but it does not define you, is what i'm saying?
You're gonna say that there's gonna be things that I, I would be like oh, i'm completely right on this thing, but you'd be like you're wrong and it's gonna be vice versa.
We're never you're.
There's certain things you're never gonna agree on, guys.